Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Trump Gets RUDE AWAKENING in Court with UNCLEAN HANDS
Episode Date: March 20, 2024Trump has UNCLEAN HANDS and that alone should lead the NY appellate court to swiftly DENY HIS REQUEST TO POST NO BOND to avoid the NYAG from selling his assets to collect on the $464 million JUDGMENT.... Michael Popok breaks down this powerful LEGAL DOCTRINE and why Trump’s prior bad acts leading to him being GAGGED should also deny him the extraordinary appellate relief he seeks. Head to https://Aeropress.com/legalaf to save 20% at checkout! Visit https://meidastouch.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Michael Popak from Legal AF. Donald Trump has unclean hands. Not only, I mean, literally,
I mean from a legal standpoint. He comes to the court with unclean hands. Because he comes to
the court with unclean hands, the court should not do equity, use its equitable inherent authority
to let him off the hook and not have to post
the bond and the full amount of the New York attorney general judgment of $465 million
plus?
Unclean hands.
That's going to be the lesson on this particular hot take.
What is it?
Why does it matter?
What kind of jurisdiction and power am I talking about?
And why does that mean Donald Trump's inequitable conduct
up until this moment in the New York attorney general case,
why that means the appellate division first department
in Manhattan, the first stop on the appellate train
should deny his demand.
Donald Trump's demand to be relieved from an obligation
to post a sufficient bond,
to stop the execution of the judgment. And if they decline that and Donald Trump is right and
truthful for the first time in his life, that he is effectively financially destitute when it comes
to being able to post sufficient assets to obtain a bond, then the New York attorney general later
this week, early next week, starts to execute on that judgment, and she, using the sheriff's office, starts levying on his assets, garnishing his wages,
levying on his bank accounts, and selling his real property. Let's talk about on clean hands.
It's an important concept in the law, and I want you to understand it on this particular hot take.
Courts today are combined, civil courts are. They sit, the judges sit in both
equity and they sit in law. They're both judges who can do equity and they're judges who can do law.
There used to be years ago and in certain court systems, there used to be judges who sat in either
equity or law. Delaware has a version of that now, but almost every other state, a judge,
your local superior court judge, or in New York, your Supreme Court judge, or your appellate court
judge is wearing two hats, has both equitable powers and powers at law. Powers at law mean that
he or she or whoever's sitting on the bench can use their powers to award damages, usually money.
If it's dealing with money and claims about money,
whether that be a tort, a breach of contract,
a negligence count, defamation,
intentional, some sort of intentional act,
whatever it is that causes somebody injury,
physical, emotional, economic, then the judge sitting as
a judge of law along with the jury who also sits as a law jurisdictional element can award money
damages. As soon as the party is seeking something else, something else like an injunction,
something here like to be relieved, or you're asking the court
to use its inherent authority, you're almost invariably in the world of equity. You're asking
the judge to use equitable powers in your favor, but there is a requirement that exists only in the
land of equity, only in the land of a judge's equitable powers. That doesn't exist when the judge is wearing his
law, his or her law powers hat. In the world of equity, people that come before the court have to
come before the court with clean hands. It's a doctrine. It's known as the clean hands doctrine.
You literally say about another side, they come to this court with unclean hands.
And that doctrine basically stands for the proposition
that if you're gonna ask for extraordinary relief
from a court in this case,
in the form of asking the court to relieve you
of your obligation to post a bond equivalent
to the amount of a judgment,
you gotta come to the court with clean hands. If you've done underhanded things and you've
committed misconduct, then your hands are dirty and you are not allowed to ask for equity or for
the court to grant it to you. In fact, that is the number one thing the court has to evaluate in
that scenario is whether you have unclean hands. What is Donald Trump's unclean hands?
Why are his hands bloody?
Because of his own actions.
Look what he did time and time again
in the New York attorney general case,
among other cases, consistently and constantly
and relentlessly bashed, doxed, violent rhetoric
against the judge, Judge Angoron,
his principal law clerk, whose name I will not mention here, over and over again, other members of the court system, jurors, grand jurors, and the like.
So bad that Judge Angoran, in order to stop attacks on the New York Attorney General,
on him, on his administration, on his staff, on others, had to issue not one,
but two gag orders against Donald Trump
and find him in contempt.
That alone, the fact that Donald Trump had to be gagged
for outrageous conduct, for comments made
both inside the courtroom and outside the courtroom,
and by his lawyers as well,
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You can't come to the court, abuse it, abuse the system,
and then ask the system for a favor.
Hey, can you spare a no bond requirement for my $465 million judgment?
Does not work that way.
And that is the first thing that a court,
whether it was Judge Angoron or here,
the Appellate Division First Department sitting in Manhattan
has to evaluate.
No, you come to this court with unclean hands.
He's also already been found to have lied
and been untruthful in his testimony in that same case.
I'm just focused on, I'm not even focused on
Donald Trump's conduct and behavior outside of this case.
Because I think the only relevant analysis
is all of his conduct and behavior within the case.
Yes, there's a long line of him having unclean hands,
but really it rises and falls
in what he does in a particular case.
But look at the particular case.
Going after Angoron, going after his principal law clerk,
going after the New York attorney general and his staff,
constantly, frequently, inside the courtroom,
outside the courtroom, in social media, and everything else.
Got gagged, the gag orders were affirmed by this same court,
the first department appellate division.
So it's not like this first department appellate division
doesn't know what's going on in the case.
Parties have, Donald Trump has run to that court
at least half a dozen times already and lost every time.
Effectively lost every time.
Tried to get the gag order removed, lost.
Tried to get the financial monitor replaced
and removed from his financial affairs lost.
Appealed some of the rulings by the judge,
primarily lost at the Appellate Division.
So the Appellate Division knows Donald Trump well,
and has affirmed the gag order twice installed
by Judge Angoron and the contempt order against him
affirmed by the same court.
Different round of judges, different panel of judges,
but this court knows and is following closely,
trust me, those judges are human,
they are following everything going on
in Judge Angoran's courtroom.
So they know already, and it will be argued, I am sure,
by the New York Attorney General
when she gets around to filing her paper,
to oppose his request
and it will be argued in court that he has unclean hands and has to be that request,
the extraordinary relief that she would have an unsecured judgment against him,
that he effectively can't afford the judgment and And that becomes the prejudice that he's trying
to argue, a prejudice of his own making. If you don't have the bond amount, then you appeal while
the amount of your assets are being transferred over and transitioned over to the judgment
creditor. That's what the people of the state of New York are now. They're a judgment creditor
against a judgment debtor called Donald Trump.
Eugene Carroll is a judgment creditor
against a judgment debtor also named Donald Trump.
And they have creditor's rights.
That's what I practice in New York.
One of my focuses in my New York practice
is on creditor's rights, the rights of people holding
judgments to go after assets and how you execute on them. And so the point of this hot take is to
explain unclean hands and the fact that unclean hands alone and the fact that Donald Trump comes
to the court with dirty hands is a fundamental reason why the Appellate Division First Department
should deny the request.
I'm sure there'll be oral argument.
I'm sure the unclean hands thing is gonna come up.
And I wanted you to have this information as a lens
to analyze it all through as you hear that oral argument.
I kicked this idea around with a colleague of mine
who I started my career with,
who, you know, in a text chain with me said,
you know, unclean hands here might be an angle to address.
And I said, I think that's a brilliant idea.
And so the two of us kind of cooked it up
and here we are on a hot take.
And so shout out to that friend of mine,
he'll know who he is.
Anyway, as you can see,
we get ideas from our audience sometimes
in how to analyze them. But I bring my own perspective to it. I bring my own 32 plus years of trial experience in New York courts, in Florida courts, and national trial practice to you
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formerly of the Manhattan DA's office.
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