Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Trump Lawyer goes OFF-THE-RAILS in SCREAMING RAGE During Trial
Episode Date: May 17, 2024Trump’s lead trial lawyer Todd Blanche —feeling the strain of not having tried a jury trial in the last 10 years— and up against Michael Cohen who has done his job to establish the key points fo...r the prosecution, lost it today in court and started screaming at Michael for no reason apparent to the jury. Michael Popok, a NY trial attorney, compares Michael’s grand performance in this criminal trial with his testimony in the NY Attorney General case and explains how the jury is receiving Michael and interpreting Blanche losing his cool in court. Manukora: Head to https://manukora.com/legalaf to receive $25 off your starter kit today! Visit https://meidastouch.com for more! Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/legalaf Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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This is Michael Popock, Legal AF.
It's time for my take on Michael Cohen and how he's doing.
Let me lead off with,
after eight hours of cross-examination by Todd Blanche
in a very confusing cross-examination,
which is usual for somebody who hasn't tried a case
in the last seven or eight years, which is Todd Blanche.
I don't think he's tried a case actually with a jury in the last five years and the rust
is showing.
Todd Blanch got so frustrated that he started, for no apparent reason, I'm sure the jury
was confused, started yelling at Michael Cohen about something so simple as a phone call
eight years ago and whether Michael had perfect recall
about the phone call to Donald Trump or not and got very frustrated and it
really was just it wasn't then it was an accumulation of Michael successfully
counterpunching Todd Blanch over the last 10 hours in a way that Michael was
not able to do frankly in the New York Attorney General. I'm gonna talk and compare and contrast the two
and then talk about why Todd Blanch blew up today,
mainly because his entire career is on the line.
He left his major swanky law firm
where he had a cushy job, making a lot of money,
to go take on one client, Donald Trump.
And he's got one major thing to do in this case.
He did a 20-minute opening statement, which I thought should have went on for at least an hour and a half on behalf of Donald Trump, and he's got one major thing to do in this case, he did a 20 minute opening statement,
which I thought should have went on for at least an hour
and a half on behalf of Donald Trump,
making promises to the jury he can never keep.
And then his big moment out of 19 witnesses
is the cross-examination of Michael Cohen
and it's not going well.
And so you see the frustration.
It's sort of like when you're watching a basketball game
and the other side is losing and they like when you're watching a basketball game, and the other
side is losing, and they get frustrated, and they throw the
basketball, you know, once or twice at fans in the stands,
because they're really upset. That's what happened at top
blanch today, when he yelled at Michael Cohen over a call made
eight years ago by Michael Cohen, because Michael Cohen
didn't have perfect recall of the conversation he had with
Donald Trump, he had to gist. I believe that
I told Donald Trump about the fact that I had resolved the Stormy Daniels issue and she would
not be going to the press about her sex act with him and he was pleased. And Todd Blanch, you know,
I'm sure the jury was as confused as I was, yelled out, oh, the jury doesn't care what you think.
The jury wants to know what you know.
I mean, I guess if you'd wandered in from outside
and hadn't seen any other part of the 12 hours
of cross-examination, you might think,
whoa, this must've been going on for a long time,
this back and forth and cat and mouse
between Todd Blanch and Michael Cohen, but not really.
Michael's been the cat in the cat and mouse so far.
When Michael gave his testimony before the judge Angora
on the New York attorney general case,
which brought down and brought low Donald Trump
to the tune of $465 million judgment, he did okay.
It was like, as I've said before,
it's like a gentleman's be
Gentlemen's be minus he was a little bit
confrontational
He was a little bit argumentative in all of that. He was
Not answering the questions before judge Angor on he was getting a little bit
Speechifying and and overall he seemed a little bit shrunken
Not so in the Trump case, in this criminal case.
Michael has been waiting for this moment,
as we all know, for the last 10 years.
And he is ready to tell the truth to this jury.
And he knows, nobody knows the baggage
that Michael carries around with him,
having pled guilty to a couple
of crimes more than Michael Cohen. So if Todd Blanche thought he was going to embarrass Michael
Cohen, Michael Cohen knows his own life story better than anybody, and the Manhattan DA and
Michael's lawyers have prepared him for this moment. And so by contrast to the New York
Attorney General case, Michael's been confident, Michael has counterpunched appropriately.
case. Michael's been confident. Michael has counterpunched appropriately. Michael has, and I've met Michael and I've been on Michael's show, of course, Michael has a certain charm,
has a certain suavness about him that the jury by people that are there seems to like Michael Cohen.
that the jury by people that are there seems to like Michael Cohen.
And that's not sitting well with Donald Trump and Todd Blanch. They don't want a jury to like Michael Cohen.
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Cohen has killed Donald Trump in testimony. He has said, as the only witness that can really say this,
that Donald Trump not only knew
about the Stormy Daniels payoff,
he knew about the phony invoices sent by Michael Cohen.
He wanted Michael to send in phony invoices
about legal expenses, and he knew that was a cover
for the Stormy Daniels payment,
and that he caused, Donald Trump caused,
those items to be recorded
in the books and records of the company
as false statements about legal expenses paid
to Michael Cohen when they were nothing of the kind.
There were repayments of Michael Cohen
for the money he laid out for Stormy Daniels.
Donald Trump knew it, Donald Trump directed it,
and that's the crime.
Only Michael Cohen can say that,
what I just said under oath, the way I just said it.
And so that's been frustrating to Todd Blanch. He's also established, Michael Cohen,
that this was all about the election, which is the second crime necessary to make this a felony.
You need a second crime. The books and records by itself is a violation of penal code in New York,
but it's a misdemeanor. But if you do it in furtherance of another crime, in this case, election interference,
now you hit a felony.
And Michael testified on that key point.
Because when he said that, I think this is the part that's going to resonate with the
jury, Donald Trump would have preferred not to have paid Stormy Daniels even after they
reached a deal and was hoping he could win the election without her so he didn't have to pay her.
It had nothing to do with Melania.
There's no Melania defense.
I was hiding it from my family in Melania.
Bullshit.
He was hiding it from the American public off the heels of the Access Hollywood hot
mic moment and he had to deal with it and didn't want all these other women like Karen
McDougal and others to pop up with stories about his sexcapades.
That's what it was about.
And it was to get him into office.
David Pecker said the same thing.
And of course, Michael Cohen is now
what appears to be the last witness for the prosecution
has now testified.
So it's two big pillars that support the prosecution
Michael Cohen is delivered on.
Donald Trump was the leader of the conspiracy,
the Trump Tower conspiracy to catch and kill stories
that verse to him about sex, about porn stars,
and Donald Trump, and everybody at Donald Trump's direction
did things like
pay her through Michael Cohen, through a sham organization, an LLC that he created, a limited liability company
with phony invoices to back it up
and to make sure that Michael Cohen got paid a bonus,
a premium, and a gross up in order to pay his taxes on it.
All the behest of Donald Trump.
Michael established that, and the other pillar, of course,
Michael established is that this was election interference.
And that's why Todd Blanch has gotten all hot and bothered.
I mean, after nine hours of trying to chip away,
and I've done cross-examinations like this that he's doing,
and it can get frustrating when you're not getting
the right answers, or you're in a moment
where you want to signal to the jury,
this is really important to me. But,
but Todd Blanch has been so ham fisted,
so heavy handed with it that I don't think this is scoring points with the
jury. I think Michael, the takeaway on Michael,
the read by the jury from my perception of Michael is that he's telling the
truth and that he's likable about it and that he's,
he's remembering things that you
would think he would remember and his memory fails him a bit on places where there was
nine years ago and you wouldn't think that minutia or that level of detail he'd have
a grasp of.
You know, when Todd Blanch says, didn't you, you know, you didn't make that phone call
to Donald Trump because he doesn't want Michael Cohen to look the jury in the eye, which he
already has, and said that Donald Trump knew about the Stormy Daniels payoff.
So anything that touches on that is like the third rail, like it's electrocuting Todd Blanchett.
He starts screaming for no reason, like a madman, at Michael Cohen, but I don't think
that's going well.
I think that just signals to the jury the weakness of the case.
And if the prosecutors are smart, they'll point it out.
Remember that time to my opponent, Mr. Blanche,
for no apparent reason, just started getting
very angry at Michael Cohen?
That's because Michael Cohen was hurting
Donald Trump, his client.
That's because his testimony was convincing
and that hurt Donald Trump and then you saw
the lawyer act out.
That's what I would do in closing
if I were the prosecutors in this case.
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