Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Trump’s Criminal Reckoning in ALL Cases Suddenly PUMMELS HIM All At Once

Episode Date: February 14, 2024

The tectonic plates have shifted and about to come crashing in on Trump in all 4 of his criminal cases ALL THIS WEEK; he met Judge Cannon in Florida on Monday at a Mar a Lago hearing for the first tim...e; the Supreme Court is considering whether to reject Trump’s request to delay his DC criminal trial beyond the election; Judge McAfee in Georgia is considering whether to deny dismissing Trump’s indictment and setting trial; and Judge Merchan in NY will reveal this week whether he will set the business record criminal case for March or defer to the DC case to try its case first. Thanks to our sponsor HumanN! Get a free 30-day supply of SuperBeets heart chews and a FREE Full - Sized Bag of Tumeric Chews valued at $25 by going to http://legalafbeets.com Visit https://meidastouch.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:36 starting with major events in the DC election interference case up at the United States Supreme Court. The first appearance by Donald Trump to face and meet in person, Judge Cannon, in the Mar-a-Lago case, as he attempts to postpone that trial that was scheduled originally for May. That happened this week. In Georgia, we have a hearing on Thursday, evidentiary in nature with witness testimony for Judge McAfee to decide
Starting point is 00:03:04 whether the Georgia indictment will be dismissed because of some sort of friendship and romantic relationship between not Fawnie Willis and a lawyer for Donald Trump, but Fawnie Willis and somebody on her own team. And then lastly, same time, same place as Judge McAfee decides on Thursday whether Donald Trump is going to have his indictment dismissed and get rid of his prosecutors that have been his nemesis with Fony Willis and the Fulton County DA.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Judge Mershan up in New York in the Stormy Daniels, Hush Money business record fraud case scheduled to go to trial on the 25th of March will reveal a couple of things at a major hearing in that case, whether he's going to actually conduct the hearing, conduct the trial on March 25th, reset it in deference to Judge Chutkin, or something like that. Let's break down each of these four major tectonic plates and what they mean for Donald Trump all this week. Okay, let's start at the beginning. First you've got the DC election interference case. What was the major event this week. Okay, let's start at the beginning. First, you've got the DC election interference
Starting point is 00:04:05 case. What was the major event this week? The United States Supreme Court has been asked by Donald Trump to stay, stay the judge Chutkin case, not allow it to proceed, not allow her to set the trial, because he's going to be filing a future appeal of the DC Court of Appeals decision that there is no presidential immunity for criminal conduct of Donald Trump to stop the peaceful transfer of power as outlined in the indictment. The United States Supreme Court makes a decision through first Chief Justice Roberts, who's the Chief Justice who sits over the DC Court of Appeals. He is their boss, if you will.
Starting point is 00:04:41 He can decide to take to reject the stay on his own or he can do what I think he's gonna do, which is after Jack Smith's team files their piece of paper, which he's given them until next Tuesday, but will be filed, I'm sure more quickly than that. He can then refer it over to the full Supreme Court and decide whether there are four, that's what you need out of nine, four votes take up the issue of the appeal. If there's not four votes to disturb and review and evaluate the DC Court of Appeals so clearly right decision that there is and cannot be presidential immunity for criminal
Starting point is 00:05:16 conduct, then if there's not four votes it dies there. The stay is lifted, this temporary additional stay by the Supreme Court until next Tuesday or whatever Jack Smith files this paper and the Supreme Court rules and the case returns immediately to Judge Chutkin to Set the trial in this case and she's let everybody know that she's fully available in April May June and July to try this case My gut is it'll be sometime in June or July if the case gets back to her within the next couple of weeks. If, on the other hand, in this crossroads moment, Roberts leads the Supreme Court through a decision that they need to hear this appeal of the D.C. Court of Appeals on whether presidential immunity applies to criminal conduct as a legend and indictment or not, then frankly, that is likely to knock
Starting point is 00:06:06 off kilter completely and out of its orbit, the DC election interference case in front of Judge Chutkin from happening before the election. The chances of that happening are slim to none if they decide they want to take the case with full briefing and all argument. I mean, they could do it quickly, but nothing so far John Roberts has done has indicated to me that he wants to do things quickly as it relates to Donald Trump, at least as to criminal matters, but we'll see. But there is a very real possibility that if the D.C. Court of Appeals decision is taken up on appeal to the United States Supreme Court, that it will kill the chance
Starting point is 00:06:42 for a trial before the election in the DC election interference case. Let's move on. We talked about tectonic plates. Let's go to the second one. Let's move on to Judge Cannon. Judge Cannon appointed by Donald Trump sits in the Fort Pierce Division of the Southern District of Florida, about 60 or 70 miles north of West Palm Beach. As people know from legal AF, I practiced in Florida, including in front of these types of judges and in Fort Pierce. So I sort of know that courtroom at courthouse. Well, that case was originally by Judge Cannon is still technically on the docket to happen in May in the Mar-a-Lago obstruction of justice, espionage
Starting point is 00:07:22 act case against Donald Trump. However, she's done everything in her power so far to slow foot this. And to delay key events in the case, pretrial events in the case, including the review of classified information under the classified information procedures act, SIPA, that governs this kind of case, because the whole case is about classified information and the handling or mishandling of it in a criminal way as the indictment is laid out. She has slow-footed and delayed every major deadline in the case. Things that should have happened in a week or a month in her world happened in three months and four months, which just delays the inevitable, which is
Starting point is 00:08:06 she's going to move that trial. Now, she's still got a motion to dismiss that Trump is urging her to dismiss the indictment and to, of course, delay the trial. That Donald Trump's and his lawyers, at least at the D.C. election interference case that I just talked about, they don't believe the substance of their arguments. They don't believe they have true merit. I assure you, they don't think these legal arguments will ultimately work. They just want a delay in order to get their guy over through the election period and hope that he wins election and can either stop the prosecution or give himself a pardon. That's all they want to do. And so the question there is whether John Roberts
Starting point is 00:08:47 is going to buy into that, take that bait and give Trump the delay that he wants, knowing that the underlying substantive arguments are basically meritless and very weak. Here in the Cannon case, Cannon has made a series of recent decisions that I'm sure Jack Smith is considering taking it up to the 11th Circuit, her bosses, and arguing that she should be removed from the
Starting point is 00:09:08 case. But we just had this week on Monday, a face-to-face meeting in court in a secret hearing that's confidential because of the classified information issues of Donald Trump and the person he appointed in Eileen Cannon. Now, I know there's a lot of speculation about Eileen Cannon bending over backwards in every other way to help Donald Trump, but can you believe this is the first time they've ever met in person? It just happened on Monday and, you know, much to the chagrin of Jack Smith's team who's also handling that case as well as the DC election interference case. They've been
Starting point is 00:09:40 flummoxed and frustrated and perplexed by Judge Cannon and her decision-making and her allowing Donald Trump and his lawyers to continue to spin the facts in their direction, basically lie about the facts procedurally, and to continue to claim that Jack Smith is just interested in election interference and is politically motivated when everything on the surface of his body of work and below the surface indicates that that's not the case. All he's doing is bringing a case to trial on time that's important to the American people to understand the results of before the election. Hard health and staying healthy, especially when you have family, friends, or loved ones, that you'll want to be able to spend as much time with as possible is so, so important.
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Starting point is 00:11:37 going to LegalAFBeats.com. Get this exclusive offer only at LegalAFBeats.com. This is the topic of this hot tick, is world's collides and tectonic plates are moving. First meeting by Donald Trump and Judge Cannon in a hearing, we don't know much about the hearing because of course it's covered by these classified information doctrines at the present time. We'll learn about them in the future.
Starting point is 00:12:04 But you know, my speculation, she's going to postpone the key dates in March that she already set. And if she postpones the classified information deadlines in March, which is to the benefit of the, of the defense in Donald Trump, she'll have no choice but to say there's not enough time to try the case in May and take it off the May docket, which takes us to Fawnie Willis, the Fulton County DA. Also this week, again, that's the theme here, she has a major hearing on her hands on Thursday, an evidentiary hearing that Judge McAfee,
Starting point is 00:12:35 who could have canceled the evidentiary hearing and on the papers just declared once and for all that there's nothing unethical about somebody dating somebody else in the same office, but he feels based on I guess the publicity and the things that have been alleged that Fawnie Willis has to answer for this. And then he's going to have to decide whether she should be taken off the case and or Nathan Wade, her, her special counsel who she's dating, I guess, has to be taken off the case and what impact, if any, that should have on the indictment, which should be none.
Starting point is 00:13:06 I don't think the indictment is in jeopardy. The indictment is rock solid. It was generated not by Fawni Willis, even Nathan Wade. It was, it was, it was issued by a grand jury of in Fulton County, Georgia. And on the backs of or the heels of the, um, a great, a special purpose grand cherry. So that indictment should be rock solid question is Fawnie Welles if she's going to be removed. And there's been some new reporting. I'm not sure it's as accurate until I hear it in the courtroom under oath that maybe Fawnie Welles misled the court about the date and time and place of her starting her relationship with Nathan. Wait, I'm not sure it matters, but if she's caught lying to the court,
Starting point is 00:13:46 it's gonna be a problem. The lie is that she says she didn't start the relationship till after the indictment, and there seems to be some testimony that may come forward in which a former law partner of Nathan Wade is gonna testify, presumably, that that relationship started earlier. And it's not about that as we joke in the law.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Sometimes it's not the crime It's the cover-up Even if she did nothing wrong if she lied to the court about the timing of this particular issue And she violated her duty of candor to the court as an officer of the court then then we got a problem with phony Willis We'll we'll watch We'll watch this with Great interest on the Midas Touch Network We'll have a live feed of the hearing
Starting point is 00:14:25 on Thursday because Judge McAfee does everything on YouTube, which is great for our network and our ability to talk to you about the results. And then we've got in the same week, we've got a hearing that same day as Judge McAfee. This is the fourth case against Donald Trump. Again, this critical week in his life is the judge, Mershawn, the New York state Supreme Court judge, who's handling the Stormy Daniels business record fraud case, which Alvin Bragg, the Manhattan DA likes to say is the first election interference case by Donald Trump, dating back to 2016. We're going to know at that hearing and from reporting, and we think we're going to have
Starting point is 00:15:03 my co-anchor, our co-anchor on legal AF, Karen Freeman, and Nifolo, formerly of the Manhattan DA's office in the room, hopefully reporting in real time, if we can. There won't be any cameras, there won't be any audio of the hearing. But the issue that we're going to learn right away is whether Judge Mershan is going to dismiss the indictment. I doubt that happens under the arguments raised by Donald Trump. The key issue there, just to kind of manage expectations, is whether there has to be two
Starting point is 00:15:31 crimes to make this a felony. And the second crime seems to be election interference. And since it's federal election interference in the 2016 election, the argument is that it's not the province of a state prosecutor, a federal crime, and therefore it can't be used to make this a class E felony in New York. Okay, it's a long-winded way of saying that's the issue that'll be addressed by Judge Mershan. But the bigger thing I'm listening for is whether he reveals that he's been in discussions with Judge Schutkin, the federal judge down at the DC election interference case, which they're allowed to do under the cannons of judicial ethics. And they've done it before speaking.
Starting point is 00:16:11 That's how we know that Judge Bershan was willing to let Judge Chutkin go first, which he originally had a March 4th trial date that's now lost and been taken off the docket completely because of Donald Trump's appeals on immunity. But he was willing to let her go first and not take the March 25 date. Now he's going to have to set the case. It's been penciled in for the 25th of March, but the question is, has he spoken to Judge Chutkin and based on what's going on on the stay issue at the United States Supreme Court that I outlined at the top of the hot take, whether Judge Mershawn is going to say, I'm
Starting point is 00:16:43 going to delay my trial setting until I give some deference and respect to Judge Chutkin, the federal judge with the bigger case, and see if she still has the ability to take a trial date earlier. If I take the March date or April date, it could screw her up from her ability to take her trial date. We'll know if he had that discussion, because it'll be revealed in the hearing that comes on Thursday. And we'll reveal, we'll cover all of this and update you on everything I just talked about. One place, one place on your, on this dial, the Midas Touch YouTube channel, and on audio podcast platforms of your choice. We do a show, we call Legal AF. It's exactly what you think it's at the intersection of law, politics, and justice. We don't just do all Trump things as some of my friends like to say.
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