Legal AF by MeidasTouch - Trump’s Lawyer Makes TOTAL FOOL OF HERSELF at Trial
Episode Date: January 17, 2024MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas gives a full recap of how Donald Trump’s lawyer was constantly admonished by the federal judge for her behavior at the federal defamation trial in the case brought agai...nst Donald Trump by E Jean Carroll and now Donald Trump was reprimanded as well. Visit https://HensonShaving.com/LEGALAF to pick the razor for you and use code LEGALAF for 2 years worth of free blades! Visit https://meidastouch.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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So day two of trial in the E. Jean Carroll defamation case against Donald Trump just concluded
the case is being tried in federal court in Manhattan, the Southern District of New York.
You saw E. Jean Carroll leaving the courthouse. There were numerous instances today where both
Alina Haba and Donald Trump were admonished by federal judge Kaplan. It started very early in the
day where Alina Haba requested an adjornment of the proceedings. Judge Kaplan, it started very early in the day where Alina Habba requested an
enjoyment of the proceedings. Judge Kaplan denied that. And what
became very clear is Alina Habba has no clue how to do the basics of
trying a case. I don't believe she's ever done a trial in
federal court before. And numerous occasions Judge Kaplan was
saying to her, you have
to follow the rules.
If you want to introduce evidence, you have to show it to the witness.
You have to ask the witness if she recognizes the document.
You then have to ask that it be admitted.
And then you can request that it be published before the jury.
You can't just start belerting out things in my courtroom, Ms. Haba.
And so Testimony today was taken of E. Jean Carroll,
the direct testimony and the questions being asked by E. Jean Carroll's lawyer, Sean Crowley.
We're on point Crowley's a pro and E. Jean Carol handed herself Powerfully during direct examination honestly emotionally
It was heartwarming to hear the strength of E. Jean Carol then Alina Habewent
Let me just give you some of the low lights and then let's just go through this together of what went down
Including where Donald Trump made a comment to the judge, like, well, why
don't you just kick me out, judge, you can kick me out.
And judge Kaplan's like, I'm sure that's what you want me to do.
And it's unclear to me why you are just physically incapable of controlling yourself and circumstances
like this.
Oh, and then after the proceedings ended today, before the jury even exited the room,
normally the party stand up.
They wait for the jurors to leave
and then the parties walk out.
As soon as the proceedings and Donald Trump cut off
the jury, like, like box them away
and then walked out first,
which is just unheard of and so disrespectful to jurors.
And it's just not what you do. Let me just give you
some of the main low lights and then let's just go through this together. So Alina Habba looks like
she's like reading something as she's questioning E. Jean Carroll and Habba goes, oh, before I say
this, special shout out to at inner city press on X, they've done an incredible job being in the courtroom and posting these
things. So I just want to give a massive shout out to them. So Alina Habba says she's like
reading from a piece of paper. Habba goes, many people called you a liar before the president
made his statement. Ejian tarot's lawyers say objection. She's not even asking a question, Your Honor. She's just
saying words right now. And Alina Habagos, I wasn't finished. It says here, referring to a document,
you're a pathetic old hag. And federal judge Lewis Kaplan then goes, Ms. Habagos, that's not evidence.
And Alina Habagos, I'm trying to get it in your honor and judge Kaplan goes,
no, we are not going to read out loud a document that is not in evidence. We're going to take a break,
ladies and gentlemen, of the jury, and we're going to return at 330 and you, Ms. Haba, are going to
refresh your memory about how you get a document into evidence because you apparently
don't know how to do a federal trial.
The jury then was let out.
The jury comes back in and Judge Kaplan goes, Miss Haba can't use documents that are not
in evidence.
Jury comes in.
Alina Habba goes to a
E. Jean Carroll.
Did you receive tweets in the five
hours before President Trump spoke?
Carroll, I hadn't seen them.
Habba, were you tagged?
Judge Kaplan, don't get into content of the documents
before they are admitted into evidence.
Miss Habba and Alina Habba goes, how do you, how do you suggest that I proceed, Your Honor?
What do I do? Judge Kaplan goes, show it to her, ask her if she recognizes it.
And Alina Habba goes, do you recognize this Miss Carol?
And then Judge Kaplan goes, it's not marked. It should be marked.
Miss Habba just do this appropriately.
Do it overnight.
Just do the work you're supposed to do before you come into my courtroom.
They need to be pre marked Miss Habba.
Do you understand that?
And then Alina Habba goes, did you anticipate the public would immediately
believe your allegations of Judge Kaplan just had enough sidebar come over here? And Judge
Kaplan was admonishing her at sidebar and saying, Habba, you don't know how to put evidence in.
You have to show the witness without the jury a document. You have to build a foundation. Do
they recognize the document? The exhibit has to be marked. It has to have
an exhibit number. Then you can request that the document be published before the jury.
And only then can you ask E. Jean Carroll about it. It's a very simple process.
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as well and tried to read from like transcript portions and and judge Kaplan was like, again, we're going to do
things my way in the courtroom.
You're not your way, Miss Habba.
Here's what went down.
Alina Habba was like, you said, Miss Carol, that you came to New York to interview Fran
Leibowitz, judge Kaplan goes, let me get the transcript of what it is that you're claiming
she said.
And Roberta Kaplan goes, your honor, I don't even really know what she's doing.
Alina Habba goes, May I proceed, Your Honor?
And Judge Kaplan goes, No, she just said something.
And you have not provided the court with a transcript of what you are claiming that she
said, Miss Habba, listen to me.
We are going to do this my way in the courtroom.
And that's how it's going to be.
You tell me the line number from a transcript.
And I read it.
Then we go from there about whether you can publish it before the jury and Alina Haba goes,
well, I was just reading and Judge Kaplan goes, okay, we are going to take
a recess. You will provide me with the line number. Okay. You give me the line number.
I determine if it could go before the jury. That's the way that trials work. You don't
just make up your own rules. And then, uh, Alina Habagos, um, page 14, six through eight,
and the judge is like, okay, well, what are you doing?
Are you offering this transcript now
into evidence with these portions,
and Alina Haba goes, no, I'm offering it
for impeachment, Your Honor, and Judge Kaplan goes,
those are two different things.
Those are two, do you know what impeachment is?
And again, Alina Habba showing that she just does not know how to do a basic trial.
And there was another moment where Alina Habba asked for a mistrial.
And so one of the things that E. Jean Carroll had testified to is that some of the death
threats that she had received, she's deleted some of the death threats.
So here's the testimony that E. Jean Carroll gave.
So I may have deleted some emails to.
I'm not sure.
Alina Habba, did you give them to your lawyers?
No question. Why not?
I don't want to upset them.
Habba, do you keep the supporting emails?
Carroll, yes, I tend to delete questions
and I know I won't use,
but I have an entire label for supportive messages.
Habba, do you control your email?
Carol, yes, Habba.
So only you deleted them, Carol, yes, Habba.
Miss Carol, are you aware it is illegal
to delete evidence?
Agent Carol's lawyer objection.
Alina Habba says, I move for a mistrial.
Evidence has been deleted and Judge Kaplan goes
denied and the jury will disregard everything that Miss Habba has just said.
You will disregard everything.
By the way, Alina Habba mentioned might as touch during her cross-examina of E. Jean
Carroll.
Alina Habba goes, didn't you testify?
You don't like talking about Donald Trump?
Objection, Judge Kaplan, sustain.
Alina Habibos, let's talk about podcasts.
The daily, all ears might as touch.
And then E. Jean Carol goes like, yeah.
Another question Alina Habibos says, you have a gun.
Do you have a license for your gun?
And E. Jean Carroll says no, and Alina Habba goes,
are you aware that you need to have a license
and judge Kaplan goes, what are you talking about?
Ms. Habba don't even start down that line.
That is nothing to do with this case at all.
Here was just an emotional line I thought
where Alina Habba said, Miss Carol,
have you ever said that you like speaking with me and E. Jean Carroll says yes and then
Alina Habba goes, is that at some level because you enjoy all of this attention you are getting
and E. Jean Carroll goes, I want people to know that women can win. I'm 80 years old. It's not right to try to make women be quiet. Here is the
moment where Judge Kaplan threatened to kick Donald Trump out of court. So this is from
Erica Orden, another great reporter who's in the courthouse. Judge Kaplan threatened to
kick Trump out of court after E. Jean Carroll's council complained that Donald Trump, while
there was mumbling
and making these noises and saying, she's a liar, she's a liar, she's lying and doing it
loud enough so the jury can hear. And Judge Kaplan says, Mr. Trump has the right to be present here.
That right can be forfeited. Mr. Trump, I hope I don't have to consider excluding you from this trial. Then Donald
Trump threw his hands up and some said, even bang the table. And Trump goes, I would love
that. I would love that. And then he whispered to Alina, nasty man, nasty man, and judge
Kaplan continue, I know you would, Mr. Trump. I know you would. You just can't control yourself in this circumstance, apparently.
You don't know how to control your behavior.
By the way, thereafter, Donald Trump went on his social media and then started defaming
George Conway and saying that George Conway attacked him and made all false claims against Donald Trump.
And George Conway is like, great.
Now I have a liable claim.
Now I'm going to sue Donald Trump for a defamation.
I'll do a further video on that.
And as I mentioned, the day began with Alina Habba requesting an adjornment and Judge
Kaplan saying, denied Alina Habba continuing to talk and the judge saying,
what don't you understand Miss Habba about denied?
No, sit down and over and over again
throughout the proceedings.
Judge Kaplan would control his courtroom
and tell Alina Habba, sit down right now,
denied, denied, denied.
And by the way, let's take a break.
And maybe you could learn, Miss Habba, how you do a trial because you do not know how to
even act as a lawyer.
And you had Alina Habba just thinking she could just what read documents and no, there's
an order to how trials take place.
And so the jury saw most of that too that Alina Haba doesn't know what she's doing, getting and managed for not knowing how to basically introduce evidence,
saying incorrect statements of law. I mean, look, Joe Takapina, who withdrew from all
of Donald Trump's other cases, I have a lot to criticize Takapina about for taking the case in
the first place. But Takapina knew how to be a trial lawyer,
compare this to Alina Habba,
who just got absolutely shut down
for almost basic competence.
Like the stuff that she was asking horrific,
but this came down to basic competence
that she totally lacked, never tried a federal case before.
And wait, tell me what you think in the comments below.
But whew, bombshells after bombshells of today with Alinaab and not knowing what in the world
she was embarrassing for Alinaab. Oh, by the way, thanks for the Midas Touch shout out, Alinaab,
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