Lions Led By Donkeys Podcast - Episode 168 - The Napoleon Nerd Who Took Over a Country and Crowned Himself Emperor Part 2
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Legion of the Old Crow today. And now, back to the show. Hello, and welcome to yet another Lions Led by Donkeys podcast.
I'm Joe, and with me today is Liam.
Hello, Liam.
Hello, Joe.
Ready for our du-du-du-duology conclusion.
How are you feeling about our boy Bukasa
I love him in spite of myself
that's kind of how I felt
reading the book
obviously like a horrible fucking awful dude
who's gonna do unspeakable evil
but like he's kind of charming
right like
yeah I mean
he's charming in a cartoonishly insane way right uh
and i do have uh maybe not a new segment uh that we're going to introduce into the show i don't
know if i've given it that hard to consider this new segment fuck it so at the end of our namibian
genocide series i played a bit of uh lbj ordering a pair of pants um where he's just like a gross
disgusting old man uh burping and talking about how he loses and gains 15 pounds talking about
his bunghole um and i can't guarantee that i'm gonna have an lbj lbj clip every week. But I can tell you that LBJ is a treasure trove of very,
very funny presidential recordings.
And this one,
so this one has to have some background to it.
He is on the phone with governor colony of Texas,
Connelly of Texas,
who is the guy who was in the car when JFK got shot.
Right.
Right.
Also a guy who probably had something car when JFK got shot. Right? Also, a guy who
probably had something to do with funding
a coup by neo-Nazis
once.
Oh, cool. What a dick!
So, the background
of this is LBJ and
Governor Connolly were
riding in a car and
they ran somebody off the
road in southern Texas and the Washington, like they ran somebody off the road, uh,
in Southern Texas and the Washington post wrote a bit about it and they are talking about it.
And,
uh,
then LBJ starts talking about how it's totally how,
uh,
it's only funny because they didn't know he was also drunk and driving.
Oh,
okay.
Here's the clip.
I see where you are.
Did I really?
I didn't know it, but the paper's got a big headline in it.
What does it say? I didn't see it.
President Johnson was endangered Saturday
when a convertible in which he was riding
was forced into a narrow shoulder of a farm road to avoid a collision.
The incident occurred as Governor Connolly drove
Johnson around his Floorsville Ranch. The Texas Highway Patrolman speeded up a hill
to pass the motorcade and met an oncoming car had to cut sharply in front of the President's car.
Connolly slowed and moved on to the shoulder. The incident did not interrupt the tour.
Connolly continued to point out sights on each side of the road.
I'm afraid to go to church.
Every time I go, they say I'm driving 100 miles an hour.
And I did get up to about 70 watching it one time, and maybe 80.
But I was very cautious and careful of the people I was with.
And I did have a paper cup full of beer.
I did have a paper cup full of beer.
Like, like you said, an SEC tailgate, just like, yeah, you know, just what's the big fucking deal?
Just a ripping ass down the road, running people off the road at 80 miles an hour and drinking and driving.
America's greatest president, ladies and gentlemen.
And I do have to say, like, I've been to Floresville.
A paper cup full of beer is like what's left of an eight pack that you've already finished and you're driving home like
that that's the kind of place floorsville is no more trades is my response to that
so yeah the the president was was drunk and running people off the road
all your dreams kids all your fucking dreams i don't know what we're calling this new segment,
but if you have anything funny like that you'd like to send me,
please, you can email it to the show or send it to me in my DMs.
It's great.
But we left you last week talking about Jean-Baudel Bokassa,
the now president for life and marshal of the Republic of Central Afrique or the Central African Republic.
Now, at the end of the
last episode, France was kind of pulling the purse strings
when it came to him and his bad habit of building
palaces for all of his friends, despite the fact people were starving to death.
So he had to look elsewhere um oh his wandering eye led him directly into the sights of momar gaddafi
dictator brother colonel of the revolution or whatever other dumbass title he was giving
himself at this point of libya uh the arab jamahiriya of libya i think it was called at
the time uh gaddafi had a tendency to throw money at absolutely anybody who fancied themselves a
revolutionary in any sense of the word to include one time a chicago street game called the elrukins
oh okay yeah he he sold anti he attempted to sell anti-aircraft
missiles to a street gang.
Good for him. Yo, dream big.
Ride never stops, Joe.
Now,
he went through a lot of different phases.
Now, if you are a subscriber
to the show, you've probably listened to me
go more in-depth on this during our episode
on the Toyota War.
I'm not going to go super far into it.
If you'd
like to know more about gaddafi's very confusing politics go listen to that uh also that's a plug
i want your money yes give joe and by extension me your money now gaddafi went through a lot of
phases all of them um strange uh this included pan-arabism pan-islamism and also pan-africanism at various
points of his life um now he didn't actually believe in any of these things what he really
was was a pan-gaddafiist uh he didn't really care in a united states of africa i think is what he
called it once upon a time uh like he didn't believe in a caliphate he just wanted himself to be in charge of a rather large chunk of land
which
we can understand yeah I mean that
he's only
different from other people we've talked about in this show
because of how weird he was
and his weird obsession with Condoleezza Rice
he had like a crush on her
he had a scrapbook
full of pictures of Condoleezza Rice
hey now Bokasa He had a scrapbook full of pictures of Kundalini's life. I'm just kidding, man.
Hey.
Now, Bokassa caught him smack dab in the middle of his pan-Islamist phase.
So Bokassa traveled to Libya in 1976 for the celebration of the anniversary of the coup that brought Gaddafi to power, and the two became fast friends.
Now, this is probably because Gadda, oil money is really not crazy.
But, upon his return to Bangui, Locasso decided that his government would now be modeled after Libyans.
And, to tie that in a...
Oh, the recipe for success!
Yes. To be fair, good athlete ended up being in country way longer with them than Locasso.
Ha ha ha ha ha! longer than Bocasso. That's true. Also, Bocasso
would never get his ass kicked by a whole bunch of Chideans
and pickup trucks.
Now, Bocasso was never one
for political theory. He didn't care about
capitalism, socialism, or really
anything else. So he wasn't
going to actually read the book
that Gaddafi made.
I think it was the Green Book.
Green Book, yeah.
He wasn't going to read a whole book. Uh, yeah, he,
he,
he didn't really,
he wasn't going to read a whole book.
Uh,
instead he decided he was just going to copy its aesthetic.
Um,
so he would change the names of various things,
but keep the exact same people in charge,
you know,
like revolutionary.
Um,
but now they'd be called the council of the revolution,
which,
you know,
there was no revolution.
It was just Picasso still.
Yeah. Uh, okay. Okay. Okay okay it's a jefferson starship uh uh airplane situation yeah he also began building a mosque uh and when gaddafi offered him one million dollars in personal checks he converted to islam and
changed his name um now in order stops yeah uh he also tried to get a lot of people in
his inner circle to do the same thing for the same amount of money this is very very weird um
because while there is a small population of muslims in the central african republic at this
time very small minority almost everybody's catholic or some version of animist. So no one really understood what Islam was.
Like when Gaddafi visited the country and he left behind religious agents
who were spies,
but also their job was to teach the elite of the country how to pray
because they had no idea.
And Mokassa seemingly didn't have much of an understanding of what Islam
was either.
When the convert. Well, he was really good at building palaces for his friends, I guess.
I mean, to be fair, that probably means he'd be very good at building a mosque, right?
It seems fine.
Now, once the conversion went public,
people were pretty shocked that this was a thing.
Islam would be like the fourth largest religion in the country at this point.
Though his real goal in doing this is pretty obvious.
Gaddafi wanted to invest in the country and also get his hand in that fucking uranium that France also wanted to get their hands on.
Right.
And Picasso just wanted money.
He didn't care.
He's like, you want uranium?
You want Muslims?
Fine.
Whatever. Just give me money. Yeah. I'll be like you want uranium you want muslims fine whatever just give
me money yeah i'll be the best goddamn muslim you've ever seen while in palace please while
i'm married to like 17 people and drinking a fifth of whiskey a day yeah crime never stops
now what's interesting here is the french also supported gaddafi kind of during this point uh
they would also support chad uh but you know things change rapidly in the region due to you know the the toyota war
specifically so bloodshed yeah um the main reason it seems that bokasa wanted to do this isn't that
bokasa actually wanted to become allies with gaddafi he didn't care about gaddafi but he knew how the french felt about him so like he's like well look i'm
cozying up to gaddafi you're going to up my allowance right because like you don't want
this to happen and that's exactly what happened and then he just kind of stopped being muslim
like he just pretend like he didn't do any um a large ceremony of him becoming Catholic again. He just
stopped doing it one day and everybody's like,
oh, I guess the president's over that phase.
It's not
a phase, mom.
So I really am.
You and dad just don't
understand. I had that argument, I'm sure.
Except that he's
yelling at the concept of France's
dad.
Now this is when we started cooking up another idea see a couple years ago when he was visiting ethiopia under then the leadership of
emperor uh sassily he uh was amazed at the reception he had received uh like he got went
into the palace and saw everybody fawning over the emperor he was in awe uh but then you know the
emperor is deposed uh ending his reign and the last empire in africa so like after that it was
like well there's no more emperor uh and boccaso was always obsessed without doing everybody in
grandeur rank and titles uh it's actually something that his own uh cousin thought david
daco before he overthrew him pretty much everybody knew that he was quite
literally like a napoleonic um stereotype where napoleon said people do dumb things if you give
them simple baubles and but like it was that was his whole personality so he figured since there
were no emperors or empires in africa anymore he should create one. After all, none of these bastards around me have
empires, right?
Sure. All right.
I mean, that is a weird
flex, especially as a
non-military power.
Normally, an empire means that
you are going to take things over.
Territories and stuff, yeah.
Or, at the very least,
there's a tradition of imperial power
right um but there was no tradition of that in central african republic um so he was going to
create one but he wasn't going to create a specific uh african traditional king uh of which there were
some uh instead he wanted to recreate recreate the Napoleonic Empire and just drop
it in Central Africa.
He brought this little idea up to
Giscard, who I'm sure
had the same attitude of telling your drunk friend
that no, that guy doesn't actually want to fight
you. What the fuck are you talking about, dude?
Crowning an emperor
in a country that is so bankrupt, they stopped
keeping books.
You want to be emperor now.
Can you imagine being his handler
just like, what? You did what?
JustGuard has all sorts of problems of his own,
obviously. Like Chris
Brown's agent, I feel like.
Or working for Blizzard.
Topical. It's topical, even though this episode doesn't come out for a couple weeks. I don't know Oh, God. Yeah. Or working for Blizzard. Oh, topical.
Yeah, it's topical.
Even though this episode doesn't come out
for a couple of weeks.
I don't know why I bother.
Oh, buddy.
Now, nobody thought
this is a good idea
with the exception
of Bocasa himself.
Now, here's probably
my favorite part
of this whole thing.
Now, Bocasa's in France
at the time.
He's in Paris
hanging out with Giscard because
they're close personal friends because
they're both kind of bad people
and they love excess. They both
drink too much. They fuck too much.
They eat too much. They make good friends.
And it's not like either of them have to pay
for it, right? They live...
Both of them live on
French taxpayer money.
So in order to convince
him, Bocasa, who was wearing his
fake field marshal uniform that he had made
for himself based on Ney,
just kind of stood around next to pictures
of Napoleon that were around Giscard's house
and tried to copy
his pose.
Like, see? I look like him.
Look, me too,
mom.
Don't I look so much like dad?
No, son, no.
Surprisingly, this did not convince the French president that this guy should be emperor of Central Africa.
Now, he didn't seem that concerned convincing him.
Giscard was willing to overlook pretty much everything.
So he kind of knew because I knew that,
you know,
if I just make myself emperor,
he'll eventually just accept it.
We'll just roll with it.
Sure.
Yeah.
At this point,
he hasn't stopped me from doing anything.
Why the fuck would he stop me now?
Now he was actually more worried about becoming emperor,
looking legitimate to his country.
Wow.
Which is absurd to me because my man, you've already made yourself president for life.
Legitimacy is that ship has sailed a long time ago, even though you're landlocked, right?
So he decided, even though he is president for life and rules by decree, he simply cannot
name himself emperor.'s that's ridiculous
so he ordered the one political party in the country which he was in charge of to declare
the establishment of the central african empire meaning of course they would have to declare him
emperor of that empire right sure which is pointless right why go through whatever i
gotta like that.
I like the pointless posture.
I was going to be like, no, no, the party did it.
Yeah, it's simply the will of the people that I remember.
Yeah.
I just happen to be the benefactor of everything the government does.
Now, the prime minister on paper was technically in charge of the party, but had no political power uh themselves thought this idea
was completely insane uh and that would make them a laughingstock of the entire world i mean
spoiler alert she nailed that one uh but she was fired uh immediately fired uh for that and was
replaced by someone who didn't think any of those things for fear of their job and life.
The real reason
for this drive is still quite questionable.
Nobody knows why
Bokassa did this except
we can just assume self-aggrandizement.
He knew as well as everybody else
that
Central Africa was broke
because his full-time
job wasn't running the country.
His full-time job was running around begging people to give him money.
Right.
But he was more worried about losing power than anything else.
And like Napoleon had, when Napoleon was first consul, he thought that it would be very, very hard to kill or depose an emperor.
So like, well, what is a first council?
Well, now you're emperor.
That's a much loftier title.
That's kind of what Bokassa seemed.
He was simply a lowly president for life,
marshal of the republic.
So nobody could coup an emperor, you know?
Wow.
Despite the fact that the emperor of Ethiopia was deposed, and that's where he got his idea.
Now, he reached out to the governments of Japan, Iran, and Morocco in order to help them.
They're all royalty at the time.
The Shah of Iran, the emperor of Japan, the king of Morocco, in order to help him figure out this entire imperial court thing and so David Daco now free from jail and made an advisor uh to him to France to get them on board
you know he said if they agreed to fund the transition to empire he would forget about that
whole uh Islamic revolution thing entirely that he had going on with Gaddafi and he would never
speak to Libya again so France is like fine fuck it okay there's 500 million francs uh it's gonna be more than that
yeah now my dude this is 19 late 1970s so you know with inflation this is a lot of money um
honestly the best part of all this happened at the exact same year when he conferred to Islam and became buddies with Gaddafi.
So within months of him going to Gaddafi.
Friendship ended with Gaddafi.
Now France is my best friend.
Yes.
He went to Gaddafi and was like, no, brother of the revolution.
I would like to join your glorious Jamahiri, but in Central Africa.
And he's like, okay, here, have some oil moneyiri but in central africa and he's like okay
here have some oil money and then like four months later he's like sorry sorry bro i'm emperor now uh
i can't i can't do that and then months just in crazy turnaround uh like which tells me that this
was his whole plan from the second that he went to talk to libya his whole plan was to somehow
leverage this in becoming an emperor which you gotta kind of admire the grift there yeah
grind never stops joe it's either this was
planned from the beginning or he had the
most power
that or he had like the most powerful
ruling version of add that
you've ever seen
like because you you see like
uh you know throughout time you see uh
weird crazy
and off the wall dictators emors, whatever they want to call themselves.
You generally don't see them ping-ponging around quite this hard.
Which leads me to believe that Picasso isn't much of a plans guy.
He's more of just like...
No, he's not a plans guy.
He wakes up in the morning and he's like, I'm going to be emperor today. Now, the party came together
to, it came together
in 1976 to
declare the creation of the
Central African Empire
and Bokassa I
as its emperor.
And Bokassa
the only, it turned out.
Oh, that's not
gone well. Well, if you look at a map today or if
you pay attention to any of uh france's current military interventions there's not a central
african empire anymore no so he got what he wanted but that still wasn't enough it would be very easy
for him to be like yeah i'm emperor now i can just continue like wearing a suit to work as your
president for life and nothing fundamentally changes here.
But that was not what Bokassa wanted.
Not at fucking all.
He didn't want the title.
I think what he was actually after was the coronation.
And that's what he demanded.
Because it would make Central Africa and him the center of the world's attention for just that one day, which is what he wanted, right?
He believed that this would bring prestige to the country, possibly investments for him to steal, you know, things like that.
And because the entire government only worked in what he wanted them to work on, their entire purpose became to plan the imperial coronation set for the December of 1977, a year from that.
So and around this time, he had about 12 wives and 60 odd children.
All right.
That's a hell of a procession, man.
So he had to pick which one would become the Empress and which one would technically be his heir.
Right.
Like, oh, shit, I got to pick one of you now.
That's awkward.
Can you imagine that?
Just Sunday family dinner.
Yeah. one of you now um that's awkward can you imagine that just sunday family dinner yeah uh everybody gather around the two mile long family dinner table and we're gonna we're gonna hash out who's
gonna be we're gonna fix this yeah no one leaves until now his favorite wife catherine became
empress uh though there is some uh back and forth if if she was his favorite wife, but
it seems that his actual favorite
wife was a Belgian woman
and he thought it would look bad if
a black emperor had a white empress.
So he picked Catherine.
Fair enough. And
their four-year-old son, Jean Bedell Jr.
became crown prince for reasons I'm sure
boil down to just his name.
More thinking by the wife
though yeah i mean probably not wrong though hilariously enough uh he ended up being related
to some european royalty through that uh whatever number of wife she was but yeah meanwhile in the
capital people were put to task finding enough
rooms for what bocasa assumed to be around 2500 guests that he had invited um this required him
to kick out uh people from their homes and bulldoze others to make room for what he considered fitting
palaces and houses what a dick yeah mind you he had never built any of these houses. These are all things that people had slapped together themselves, right?
I mean, it was like he was hosting the Olympics. He's like, no, no, get rid of that whole
subdivision. We got to put something there that we're never going to use again.
Statue of me. Yeah, the rotates to face the sun like the president of Turkmenistan.
I don't have a reason to do
an episode
on the guy that I think is
Nurazov, I think his name was,
that was president for life
of Turkmenistan. But
honestly, that guy might be in competition
with Bokassa. He never made himself
emperor, but Bokassa never made himself a
rotating golden statue that always faced
the sun. It's a toss-up.
He also
put other people to work building houses
for other guests. The entire area
around the cathedral long allowed
to fall into a state of disrepair
because, you know, they were broke.
It was totally rebuilt
and remodeled. Anything that was
considered unsightly, including
other people's houses that weren't needed to be
knocked down for space, were knocked down.
Good.
Not good. Don't cancel that.
Liam is actually a landlord
in Bangui. We just don't know about it.
That's true.
This also would
be the first time that
Bokasa would attempt to invest in infrastructure,
but only for a
small ring of roads that went from these
houses to his palace and the cathedral.
And then that would also be
extended to a third area, which we'll
talk about in a little bit. These were like the only
roads in the country.
And they were built solely to
chaperone people he thought was coming
to his coronation. They didn't go anywhere.
They just went in random places around the capital uh what uh napida the the new capital of uh
um myanmar there's a lot like that from what i know about it having seen it on top gear that
or grant uh yeah top gear that one time it's like eight lanes of traffic, but they're all empty. Yeah, exactly like that.
Now,
French sculptor Olivier Bryce
was contracted to
retrofit the cathedral,
which was...
He also... His second job was
to design and build an imperial
carriage and
build what has to be the
most ugly and gaudy ass throne you will ever see
uh now we don't like we're not a visual medium here but i'll make sure you're a podcast with
slides joe i know of a podcast that does have slides it's never talked about emperor belcasa
once all right okay all right um but i'll make it the cover for this episode so you can see it but it is it looks like an eagle
that so i can't draw right i'm but it looks like an eagle that i would attempt to draw
um it but it's made it was 14 feet across uh and weighed two tons and took 30 men working
full-time for a year at a cost of $2.5 million.
It was so fucking tight.
It was solid bronze and gold-plated
with crushed velvet seating.
It's amazing.
But we already talked about the carriage, right?
So that leads you to believe,
oh, he's going to have to have horses, right?
He doesn't have any horses.
Oh, no.
I mean, there's some local draft animals, but they don't look right.
He has to have white horses, right?
Right.
So, they're flown in from Belgium.
Now, this is a problem.
They would also fly in white horses for the Imperial Guard to accompany him.
Because there's going to be cavalry on both sides of the chariot and also horses for the
chariot. Small problem. The Imperial Guard has never ridden horses before, and they certainly
don't know how to ride it like this. So a troop of African soldiers had to be flown to Normandy
to spend the whole next year learning equestrian. Oh, what an effective use of the taxpayer's time
and money. I mean, if I was French,
I'd be very mad. If I was Central
African, this is just
more of the same, really.
Like, oh, we're building roads.
What are they up to fucking now?
Yeah, we're like, what is fucking
Bokassa doing now?
Why is he building one road that goes from his front
door to his palace? God damn it.
Where did all this goddamn horse shit come from?
While all of this is going on,
Bocasa was blind drunk.
And according to some reports,
he was drinking four fifths of scotch per day.
Oh,
that's that.
That's bad.
Yeah,
that is a lot of booze.
I mean,
to be fair,
Bocasa is a big guy. I mean to be fair because he's a big guy uh
i mean i mean he's dead so i got your i got i got my money on you
it's just gonna roll up and start punching his corpse celebrity death match one of them's already
dead um and from like my understanding this is like thousands of dollars of uh of scotch because
he's drinking very very good scotch.
Sure.
Of course he was.
Right.
So for the ceremony, everyone in the imperial government would have to be in full costume for the day, meaning they would all have to be tailor-made.
And these are all imperial costumes straight out of Napoleon's coronation.
Everything was based on Napoleon's coronation to include what bokasa
wore it was a as close to a replica as it could be to what napoleon was wearing now who else could
have done this other than the same tailor that made napoleon's uniforms 200 years before uh
hundreds would have to be made dozens of which were just forasa, even though he only wore two.
This is amazing.
Like I said, I'm rooting for him in spite of myself.
I'm aware he's a horrifically
narcissistic dictator,
letting his people starve at the
price of his own hubris, but
shit happens to people.
Yeah, he's
Icarus, except he flew too close
to the sun and his golden throne melted.
The gods will do that to you.
They also changed the flag with an eagle holding a sun, too, so that works.
Now, these costumes included thousands of pearls and gems and various different kinds of diamonds.
All of them would be inlaid in into the clothing,
as well as jewelry, which we haven't quite got to yet.
His clothes alone, just Bokasa's, would cost a million dollars.
The Empress's clothes, which included 200,000 sequins
made out of precious gems, would cost almost $200,000.
Then a team of French jewelers...
That's a little bit of duty, but all right.
You know... I assumed
more on the clothes department.
With inflation, it's probably closer to
five or six million.
But the real
sweet spot comes with his imperial jewelry.
A team of French jewelers
went to work on the imperial crown and
scepter. It was all gold covered in jewels
and probably weighed so much it
needed to include neck support. By the time the jewelers were done it included an 80 carat diamond which according
to google would now be worth around 10 million dollars um but he got it on a sweet discount of
only five million dollars though when you count that into inflation that is nearly 20 million
dollars today oh just for his crown yeah then came the food uh there was 240 tons of food
and drink ordered for the coronation granted he never bothered to do any of this for like
the population of his capital before or after this yeah i was gonna say weren't they starving
to death like two weeks ago and was invited to this coronation it's like everyone in the country
oh no no no we'll get to the guest list.
It's pretty much the only Central Africans
invited or people in the Imperial Guard
or people directly related to him.
Now because he's crowning himself emperor
of a destitute nation with no food
all of this had to be flown in
which also included 40,000
bottles of wine,
24,000 bottles of wine, 24,000 bottles of champagne,
and 10,000 bottles of Chivas Regal whiskey.
Wow.
Like, even if everyone showed up on his guest list,
and we'll talk a little bit more about that later on,
this would be enough to kill them all with alcohol poisoning.
Yeah.
Several times over, actually.
them all with alcohol poisoning yeah several times over actually now he because he was never able to build a functioning transport or road system he you would have to do that as well as to provide
transport for all of his guests which he assumed would be remember 2500 people is who he invited
on top of the the small circle of people he actually considered as part of his imperial
circle in the country.
So he bought every single person
that would be coming a brand new Mercedes Benz.
Nice.
Now the sticker price for those
was not given in the book,
but they're branded. It's a brand new
luxury car. It wasn't
like the busted ass
Mercedes that you can get from the
late 70s or 80s from
a used car dealership my favorite kind yeah that's the only kind i've ever driven uh
but remember central african republic landlocked right how the fuck do you get a car there
you can't just fly you can't just fly a car from uh i i think you bump directly from germany
to the central african republic did you hire some guys to drive it, basically do the
dock car by themselves? That would be rad,
but no. Something even
dumber, because that would actually probably be cheaper.
They were sent to
Cameroon via ship and then flown
to Bangui for the cost of $5,000
per car just for transport.
There's 2,500 cars.
Oh, okay.
He bought more
cars right then than there may have been
in the entire country at that point
nobody's entirely sure
but like the book
Dark Ages says it's like there's a very
good chance that is the case since most people
outside the capital very
agrarian existence living hand to
mouth right their transportation
is through Chevrolet.
Right.
They don't have cars.
Chevrolet.
So you said that is what I said.
You can use that.
It's fine.
I think I stole that from like,
it was like a shitty old dad joke.
I don't remember.
Now,
how is he going to pay for all of this?
I've already pointed out that the French is covering a lot of it,
but not all of it.
Right. Even they have their limits
when it comes to crowning imaginary
emperors.
That meant Bokassa had to wring out
wealth from his already desperately poor
people to help him
pay for his emperor
cosplay for the day,
right? Sure. So,
he reached out to the private sector.
Generally, those, the only private sector that
really existed in Central Africa at the time was those who traded coffee, diamonds, and cotton.
So these businesses have already been ringed pretty bare already. Whenever he needed money
before he went to the French, he would just go demand pretty much tribute. They already have to pay taxes.
But he would just show up and he's like, give me all your money.
It was like unarmed robbery.
So he went to those guys.
He's like, you need to fucking empty your pockets.
Now, the threat was obviously he could do Bocasa stuff and beat them to death with his cane of justice.
But more than that, he said that they just would not get their
business licenses renewed
next year if they didn't.
So you will either give me everything
that your company is worth or you will not be able
to do business next year in this country.
Now, a lot of people gave up everything
because they're fearful of Bocasa, but the
Diamond Company actually pulled one over on him
that was pretty good. Mostly because the
Diamond Company was already fucking broke.
Uh,
they didn't have anything left to give.
Uh,
but they did have some stones in the back,
which Bocasso was also willing to take.
Cause of course he was their diamonds.
Right.
And when he asked for a large diamond to be used in the ceremony,
they knew if they gave him anything of worth,
which they didn't have a diamond the size that he wanted anyway
but if they gave him the biggest diamond he had or they had they would simply not have any materials
to keep their business afloat should bokasa fuck off and let them do business right but he the
manager knew that bokasa didn't know anything about diamonds like this guy's just like yeah
it's a big old rock. Thanks.
Uh,
so he took a large industrial diamond,
you know, like the cheap ones that nobody wants.
They break them down into tools,
Paula and stuff like that.
Yeah.
Well,
he didn't break it down.
Instead,
he ordered it to be polished up and carved into the shape of Africa.
Um,
and when he presented it to Bocasa,
he told him it was worth half a million dollars.
In reality, it was worth less than $100.
Ugh.
But it worked.
During coronation, he wore it on his hand.
And whenever journalists asked him about it, he would tell them,
Oh, yeah, it's worth a million dollars.
In reality, it's like shitty drill diamonds.
Now, it was about now, after all the money had been spent, that Bocasa decided he didn't want to get crowned in the cathedral.
Well, okay, dude.
Remember, they've been working on this shit for months at this point.
Right. You see, he thought so many people around the world were going to show up to watch him get crowned emperor.
There would simply not be enough room in this cathedral, right?
Because of course not.
So he moved it to a local basketball court,
which had been built by the Yugoslav government.
I'm just picturing like a queen's ass,
like rec center basketball court.
We're going to go get married at the Y.
Yeah, it was built by the Yugoslav government
from back when he wanted to
play communist for like a week
and so at this point he
and to be fair like
if you look at the pictures and video of this which there is
video of this you'll be able to tell it's a basketball
court they did a really good job covering everything
up with big majestic banners and shit
that is a
Yugoslav basketball court
if I ever get crowned emperor of the United States,
I am going to go get crowned at the Y or like the local community center.
Yeah.
Just be like,
all right,
figure this capacity,
live it out.
Shoot the fire marshal.
If you have to,
I don't care.
Go get my cane of justice.
It's just a wrench.
Now he planned this coronation to a T.
He wanted it to look exactly like Napoleon's, which, I mean, there's painting of and stuff, which is what he's going off of, which meant that he wanted the Pope to show up and crown him himself, which had been what happened with Napoleon.
Right.
Right.
Besides the fact that he had just converted and reconverted back from several different religions in the last couple of months, the local leader of the church had explained to him that times had changed and the church doesn't do the whole crowning of emperors thing anymore.
I assumed he also left out the part where the pope has no fucking idea who he is.
So let's get to the guest list.
This is probably the part everybody's interested in. he invited every single head of state in the world
okay all right good start this included several like state level governors of the
of like individual states of the united states uh like he invited all 50 governors and the president
would you go i would have gone fuck it like i'll get to go to a coronation
by napoleon's risen ghost or whatever
uh he also included every single king and almost every single bit of nobility
and emperor still left alive which included i think the only emperor alive at this point is
um every single one of them turned him down. Oh, that's just rude.
The only aristocrat
who showed up was a minor
prince of Lichtenstein named
Prince Emmanuel, and he only
attended because he was very distantly
related to one of Bocasa's wives.
Ah.
That's it. Every other even African head of state
stayed away
this included Idi Amin and Mubutu
Sese Seko
they were like nope too much
when Idi Amin has said
you've gone too far you need to re-evaluate
your life
and of course Gaddafi wasn't going to show up
because he'd already fucking pissed him off more than once
we're not friends anymore don't call poor Mubar and of course Gaddafi wasn't going to show up because he'd already fucking pissed them off more than once we got his feelings hurt yeah
we're not friends anymore don't call
poor Muammar
Muammar just sitting in Tripoli like
feel like shit just want him back
yeah
so
most of these places
that did
show up so
not every country center representative but the ones that
did what they were very minor people uh that they sent it like even the french president
just guard who made this whole thing possible did not attend most people didn't even send like a
vice president or like it was it it was some random ministerial posts.
Like,
uh,
we said the minister of fucking transportation or commerce or whatever.
Right.
Uh,
France set the minister of cooperation,
uh,
which had a good point.
Admittedly,
when people asked him why he was going and giving Bocas a legitimacy,
he said it was incredibly racist that nobody asked the same thing about going to the Queen of England's Jubilee, which you've accidentally come on to a good point here that royalty is bad.
Yes.
Congrats, I guess.
Yeah.
By defending your own investments in Bokassa, I was going to say Central Afrique, but they didn't give Central Afrique any fucking money.
They give it to Bokassa. I was going to say Central Afrique, but they didn't give Central Afrique any fucking money. They give it to Bokassa.
By
defending your supporting of Bokassa,
you did a very good job
explaining why royalty
is bad and they should all go.
Which is why one of my favorite things
is like one
of Napoleon's
marshals who then go on
to become king of Sweden via marriage had a tattoo
said death to kings on it oh okay all right i think it was right in the middle of his chest
so like whenever he after he was made you know king of sweden he's like i can't take off my shirt don't ask why but uh anyway because 2500 people and 600 showed up uh none of those
people were people he actually invited uh those were all like secondary and tertiary people that
the people he invited actually sent of those 100 were journalists uh assuming they were like us
and have a morbid curiosity
about this kind of thing.
And before then, mind you,
there's a huge part of the book
about how Bocasa's security apparatus
grossly abused journalists.
And they would actually charge journalists
$400 a day
to come to Central Africa and report.
So nobody ever went there.
Right.
But for this point
they waived the
hundreds of dollars a day so
they could come and talk about his coronation.
On the day of the event
December 1977
the hundreds, not thousands, of
guests were ferried into the Yugoslav
basketball court to watch the coronation
of Bukasa I.
And immediately the air
conditioner broke.
Soldiers, bands, and guests all
dressed in traditional imperial French
clothing as temperatures rose
to the level that you assumed that they would get
in the middle of the day in Central Africa.
Soldiers dressed to the nines
in Napoleonic uniforms, mostly
made out of wool,
began to pass out.
Yeah, fair enough.
I would tell.
Yeah.
The emperor was supposed to show up at 9 a.m., but he didn't.
Instead, he drank all night and woke up with a hangover,
and he got there an hour late.
That's actually not too bad.
When he was on his way there,
he was in the imperial carriage.
Now, the guy who designed the imperial carriage, the same guy who designed the throne, didn't account for the fact that this is going to be happening in this middle of Africa where December is not cold.
And it was not equipped with an air conditioner, which meant as soon as he, his son and his wife packed into the un-air conditioned carriage with no opening windows, they began to suffer from heat stroke.
the un-air-conditioned carriage with no opening windows, they began to suffer from
heat stroke.
Mind you,
he is wearing a fur cape.
He is
decked the fuck
out. So they had
to pull the carriage over, bring
one of the... Fur capes are not well known for being
lightweight. No.
Moisture-wicking.
Don't worry, this is my moisture wicking fur cape
uh so they had to pull the carriage over bring a car up to them bring them close enough but not
so close that the people at the at the basketball court could see them and then switch because the
car had an air conditioner they'd switch back into the carriage as it pulled into the basketball
after the imperial family finally showed up the entire coronation lasted an hour.
Now, the total cost for this was $22 million, but it was actually quite worse than that.
Adjusted for inflation, this is closer to $100 million.
And it cost the entire French aid package for the month of December,
as well as on top of an unknown amount of money
Bocas had stripped from the country for his own purposes.
And here's the crazy part.
No one can actually figure out how much everything costs.
The reason for this is because when the French asked
to look at the country's finances prior to giving them aid,
they discovered that nobody was keeping track of the national budget,
meaning nobody had any idea what the actual Central African Republic's GDP was
because it wasn't calculated.
Cool.
Okay.
I just lied to the World Bank.
What do you care?
Bokassa was just spending it like it was his personal bank account.
And the only person that was trying to balance that sheet at the end of the day
was, remember, Bonza, who got shot over it.
Right.
So some estimates say the coronation cost a quarter of the day was, remember, Bonza, who got shot over it. Right. So some estimates say the coronation
cost a quarter of the national GDP,
but the French Minister of Cooperation
later said there's a good chance
that it actually cost the entire GDP
and certainly more money,
like liquid cash,
than the country had on hand,
meaning that for one whole hour,
he spent an entire nation's
gross domestic product on making himself
emperor only your dreams be dreams joe i mean just incredible stuff yeah i i go man i don't know if
there's a case like this from history that could be possibly worse than this like i cannot think
of one if there is like i need to find it. I've never heard of anybody
sinking the entire GDP in an hour.
Now, if Bocasa was hoping his coronation
would bring peace, stability, and legitimacy
to his rule like he always talked about,
he was fantastically wrong.
Every bit of press that came out
about his coronation
was mercilessly roasting him.
With every African ally being embarrassed not only for themselves but for the entire continent one newspaper in zambia pointed out that bokasa
had specifically helped the cause of apartheid rhodesia in south africa by making the entire
race look bad uh now i do i do need to like explain that a bit for people uh unfamiliar with that concept
uh brodija and south africa generally existed by saying that yes we think black people should be
in charge they're just not ready yet right like that was one of the excuses that they used and
after this happened they're like see look what happens when africans are in charge
they do this so like zambia is like look
what you fucking did bokasa like you made the apartheid assholes look like they were right
uh so yeah it was i've never seen anything quite like that before that's merciless yeah
becoming an empire also didn't help his ability to govern or make his country any
make any more sense.
First, he moved out of the capital, 80 miles away, and established his own imperial cabinet, separate from the prime minister's cabinet.
Both had powers that passed laws, which would and could be conflicting.
On top of that, Bocasa could still rule by decree if he felt like it.
It quickly became apparent where the real power was, and it was still on Bocasa, while his prime minister's job was to run around Europe and continue to ask for money so he could spend on stupid shit.
Right.
At this point, Bocasa had pissed off all of Europe, who were rapidly closing the door on him.
One of the straws that broke the camel's back, it seems, is when the European economic community gave him 60 million francs for a railroad project, which he then spent on his own house. Did it at least have
a model train? I don't
think so. Oh, lame. I know,
right? I swear
Bocas is the only place on Earth
that... Bocas
is the only person on Earth to be so hilariously
corrupt that he said that he would become a
communist if someone built him a train, and
even the communists were like no
like we know where this is going
fuck off
now the job of getting Bocasa
funding so he could continue running his
little fiefdom here was so
stressful that the prime minister eventually
keeled over from a heart attack within a year of taking
the job
France still kept Bocasa
afloat however and he funneled that money into a presidential guard
and then which then switched into an imperial guard armed in trade by an israeli general
uh now that might sound impressive but it was actually a general fired due to fucking up during
the yam kippur war but he's still a general still counts meanwhile the imperial army ceased to
function having no guns or ammo due to bokasa's fear of it could be used for an uprising or still counts meanwhile the imperial army ceased to function
having no guns or ammo due to
Bocasa's fear of it could be used for
an uprising or a coup against him
and he paid his guard massive salaries
to retain their loyalty
meanwhile Prince George
one of Bocasa's sons
I believe his oldest son
and had been forced into
exile in France hardly survived he didn't have a work
visa because they weren't considered french citizens and his dad didn't send him any money
and he was forced to relate handouts from other expats oh george said that uh his emperor dad
would fail miserably uh and the repression would only get worse going so far as saying his dad wouldn't last more than three years on the throne
which would end up becoming
prophetic
now if you were to pick all of the
various stressors here that eventually lead to
the downfall of Bokassa whether it be
France being sick of his shit
or the imperial guard
or the actual prime minister or
Chad or Libya any of these
places what do you think would actually bring him down?
Let me get a curve ball and say one of his wives.
Ooh, that'd be good.
But would you have guessed literal school children?
What?
Yeah, not college students, mind you,
but middle and high school kids
joined by elementary school kids.
So this requires a bit of explanation.
For the vast majority of people in the empire at this time,
school simply did not exist.
Bocasa didn't trust school thinking it was,
it was going to impart harmful ideas onto kids,
you know,
like maybe food is good and the emperor has too many palaces,
but he did open a few schools,
mostly for the elite of the country people who worked in the
civil service the guard or you know maybe the army at certain ranks you can put their your
kids in those schools he only did this because before they would send their kids abroad mostly
to france to go to school where they'd pick up harmful ideas from french schools like maybe the
head of state shouldn't beat people to death with a stick when he's bored.
Food is good. Yeah.
So he believes he kept all those people in-house.
He could control them and their education. But he couldn't.
Throughout the early 1970s,
these schools went on strike due to terrible
conditions. Literal elementary
school strikes. These were not led by teachers.
These were students.
That's fucking rad as hell.
Okasa considered these acts of rebellion,
deploying the military to put them down, beating,
torturing, and killing literal school children
for demanding books and shit.
Oh my god, okay.
At another point, students at the
University of, what else, Bokasa
demanded
their food stipends, something that was
promised to them by the school.
To stop them, they were simply drafted into the army for an undefined term so they couldn't go
to college anymore. Now, as Bocasa got more and more extreme and began arresting teachers for
bringing up any political idea in the classroom that wasn't, damn, isn't Bocasa great, students
once again rose up to defend their teachers. In most of these cases, entire schools were closed
and students were forbidden from attending
any other place of education for the rest of their
lives. This all came to
a head in 1977.
The Imperial schools modeled after the
French one, and I
guess at a high school level, you have to take a very
important test, and
it helps with placement
for universities,
stuff like that.
On this particular year, for whatever reason, I'm sure,
has nothing to do with their teachers randomly being fired and arrested.
The student body didn't do so good on the test.
They scored pretty badly.
Because their schools are lacking simple things like teachers and books.
Yeah, fair enough.
Bocasa looked at all of these problems and decided that the only reason why the students would
fail in such a matter is because they have a lack
of fucking discipline Liam
oh no oh god
you sound like my middle school gym teacher Joe
so he got on a plane and took
a trip to China where he got an idea
after seeing a whole bunch of Chinese kids march
around and step together and other than being
really creeped out by that he decided
that all these kids are dressed the same.
We should do school uniforms.
That was what he gleaned from that?
That is what he gleaned from that.
These kids need uniforms.
You know what?
At some point,
you got to appreciate this guy.
Now, these uniforms,
which include a pin
with his face on it,
like something out of North Korea,
could only be manufactured
by a single company
and sold in a very specific storefront.
Of course, that manufacturer was owned by him,
and the retail store was owned by his wife, Empress Catherine.
That's convenient.
Yeah.
Nobody without the uniforms would be allowed to attend school.
And while this was happening, the empire reached a critical mass of hyperinflation
and being so broke that not even French money could bail them out anymore.
The government simply stopped paying its civil service employees, which remember,
were really the only employees not in the presidential guard that had children that
would be buying these uniforms. You never stop paying the imperial guard.
So while this is happening also, meat and sugar prices and the price of simple wheat
had tripled in a year. And even if you had enough
money, there wasn't enough food to go around.
So in the middle of all this, he wanted
these people to buy a school uniform that
would cost the equivalent of around $20
in a country where a normal
person made $200 a year.
Wow. That's cool.
Alright, cool. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.
And that money would go directly to him.
For him? Dude, this is genius.
Yeah.
Almost nobody bought the school uniforms because they couldn't,
and the schools refused to admit them.
So, student leaders took to the street and strike.
The crowd grew to thousands,
and when cops and soldiers were dispatched to beat them in a submission,
they did not go away.
In many cases, the cops and soldiers got beaten by school children.
So, soon, college students joined the protests.
Now, looking at the date, the Shah of Iran had recently been deposed,
and the students were chanting, quote,
after the Shah of Bokhassa and looted stores owned by his family.
Oh, that's tasty.
That went from like, we just want to go to school.
Like, you know what?
Fuck this guy.
We're sick of this.
Oh, okay.
It's rebellion. We're rebelling now.
These kids that were between
the ages of 8 and 18
were joined by pissed off
workers and union officials who began to form
barricades out of cars in an armed
wildcat strike, chasing off
cops who were sent to disperse them.
Yeah, dude. Alright.
Labor is entitled to all it creates.
No, end. All right. Labor is entitled to all it creates. No, end the story there.
There's always a time.
At one point, soldiers untrained and given live ammo for the very first time panicked and ran from the students.
And these, remember, some of them are eight years old, nearly captured their commanding general.
That is, wow. That is not an orderly retreat. nearly captured their commanding general that is wow
that is not an orderly retreat
like
fucking soldiers armed with AKs
being chased off by like Tommy Pickles
from the Rugrats
a baby's gotta do what a baby's
gotta do as you're like executing
a general
eventually Bokasa
declared martial law and sent in the
Imperial Guard. Armed with Israeli training
and Soviet weapons, including tanks, they
slaughtered hundreds in the street.
The survivors were thrown in prison where the emperor
himself beat several of them to death with
his justice stick while chugging whiskey
that cost more per bottle than anybody in the room
made in their lifetimes. There are
also several accounts of him eating his
victim's brains after smashing open their
skulls.
Yeah. This finally
ended up being the straw that broke the camel's
back in the international community.
Everybody finally turned against him,
to include France. It turned out
that sometimes eating school
children turns you into an international pariah.
Who knew? I mean, I think that's
what finally got Idi Amin as well.
Can you imagine?
Can you believe this guy
as you're like halfway through some poor
eight-year-old's brain?
Sir, you have gone too far.
Slaughter and
dooming your nation
to destitution by crowning yourself
emperor is one thing, but eating
people is another. I mean, yes,
also, but like, come on now,
I shouldn't have taken all this.
It's fine. They got there
eventually.
It's like voting Democrat.
You really get it both sides, this cannibalism
thing.
How are we going to get the swing voters
if we don't eat school children
now
Paul can eat six school children a day
I mean to be fair he probably does
look at that man
he eats babies
that dude eats babies
you keep that in there that's not liable
allegedly
eats children
now France is going to cut off aid completely,
but in order for...
Pussies.
Yeah, there's a but there.
Everybody was waiting for the end of an investigation
being carried out into the incident by Rwanda
that would almost certainly find him guilty
when good old David Daco called up the French embassy
and said he had an idea.
I want to be president again.
Okay.
But France knew the Imperial Guard was loyal,
like he had bought their loyalty,
and most people didn't like David Daco.
He couldn't just walk in and take power.
They'd have to flex their own military might onto the empire.
But that was considered too much it would be hugely expensive
and they were worried that like if bokasa was there the guard would stand strong they had decent
training and weapons they could inflict casualties on the french that would look bad probably not
prepared to lose anyone to this to this thing yeah it doesn't really seem up there uh also there is a
election coming up and just guard knew that you know if a couple dozen Frenchmen got owned by the Imperial Guard, it'd look bad and he'd probably lose. So he decided his plan to have to wait for Bocasaso left the country quite often and with french money gone
he had no choice but to run back to where else libya
now honey he called gaddafi back up and then flew off to libya to meet with them
the next day the french began Operation Barracuda. Ooh.
Yeah, I really should have cut like a Barracuda clip there, but I did not.
Around 150 French paratroopers loaded into a plane and landed at the Bangui Airport,
where they calmly got off and took it over from the shocked guards without firing a single shot at them.
Fair enough.
Around 150 more French landed and fanned out over the capital. The Imperial Army threw their
weapons down very confused and
decided they didn't want to fight the French.
Mostly because, again, remember, they
barely had ammo or guns. They didn't even have
training. At this point, David
Daco was so terrified that he refused
to leave. He was still
packed away, I believe, just
across the border in southern Chad.
And he's like, no, no, no, I don't want to go until you capture Bocas.
I don't want to go. I don't want to go.
So the French kind of had to get on the fucking plane, David.
We are too far for you to fuck this up for us right now.
Now, the feared Imperial Guard stood at their post for a few hours,
facing off the French paratroopers.
And then finally, out of nowhere,
they ran off back to their villages,
leaving their uniforms and weapons scattered behind them.
The Central African Republic-turned-Empire had fallen without a single shot being fired.
Oh, well, that'll help his election chances at least.
When Bokasa heard about this a few hours later,
he rushed in to talk to Gaddafi,
only to find out that he
had not even shown up in Benghazi
where they were supposed to be meeting.
You know who else didn't show up in Benghazi?
Hillary Clinton.
Charlie Daniels.
Benghazi ain't going away.
You know who else ain't going away?
Bocasa.
There's actually a pretty decent
conspiracy theory here
is that the French called
Gaddafi and was like invite
him to Libya
I mean that makes sense
and Gaddafi was like okay
right because he probably wanted to be rid
of the guy too yeah at this point he's
pretty sick of him too
and there's no evidence of that but it
seems likely.
That would make a ton of sense.
I mean, why else would he fucking ghost him?
Right, right.
Yeah, it's opined in the book that's a very real possibility.
I would absolutely buy into that.
Oh, I bet on that.
Yeah.
Now, Bokassa kind of moved temporarily into his own plane that was at the airport in Libya because he was officially nationless he discovered he did
not qualify for French citizenship under
the law and returning to Bangui
would have been suicide in fact he would eventually
be tried in absentia
and sentenced to death
so like he's like whoop can't go there
now one French historian
who I will note has
honestly the best one liner in the entire podcast to include either one of us said it was only right to give him to the English and let them banish him to St. Helena.
I hope somebody appreciated the irony of that.
Yeah, I mean, like, this is the sense of humor historians have.
I am here for it.
Like, clearly, we need to honestly, he is the sense of humor historians have, and I am here for it.
Like, clearly, we need to stay.
Honestly, he probably would have been excited about that, right?
Yeah, you know.
He gets to go where dad went.
Now, there was, he had like an aide with him that stayed remotely loyal for some time.
And he was making calls and trying to figure out where exactly he could go who would take our stray poor baby
Picasso right right
Gaddafi absolutely refused
to take him noting that he was
already taking care of Idi Amin
I always said it too
yeah he pointed out he's like I'm already taking care of this
deposed dictator someone else has to take this one.
And Zaire refused as well,
which is funny because, again,
Mobutu says he's sick of going like, no, I don't want
nothing to do with that guy.
I just love the idea of
Gaddafi being like, no,
no, you take him.
Who wants to
take his rights
for the weekend?
These were like Bokas to fall back countries he first wanted to go to france and france is like you're you're not a citizen um
eventually he settled for the ivory coast who took them in putting him up in a free house in
the suburbs now uh eventually france did cave and allow him to move to france and receive a pension
for his military service, which was
not that much money, mind you.
Remember, his pension would have been dog shit.
Like a couple hundred
francs a month, maybe.
And using that, he
rented out a house from, I wish I had a
drumroll for this, the National
Front. You're joking.
No.
He rented a house from Marine Le Pen's joking. No. He rented a house from
Marine Le Pen's dad
who was
given to him at massive
discount because he did not have any money.
Okay.
What? That has to be the
only time the National Front ever liked
a black guy.
My mind truly is blown.
And I wish I had a better explanation for this but
in the book it literally is just like now he lived in a house that was rented to him personally by
uh the national front and then just moves on i'm like come on man you're leaving out a lot
of details here that's no i need a fucking rundown of that like a newspaper ad like do we know no uh i i got nothing man i i assume that the french
neo-nazis were were fine with uh someone who really liked napoleon sure i i don't even
i truly don't even have a joke uh yeah of of two hours or so of podcast full of weird shit that might be the weirdest
that's that's the weirdest at least for me he stayed there for seven years uh where he spent
his full time sending letters to the french government bitching about not getting enough
money from the french government something he you know he's done as a part-time job now he
constantly complained his pension wasn't enough. But remember, he retired
technically or whatever, got out of the
French military as
a captain. So his pension wasn't
very high. He was like, no, no, no, I want the
emperor pension, please.
What do you mean we don't
recognize this address?
I am... Remember
emperor, guys?
You keep writing
Emperor Bocasa I. We're actually looking keep writing emperor Bocasa the first we're actually
looking for a captain Bocasa
like that's me
fuck imagine like the
emperor going down to the VA
it's like just wearing
all of his fur capes
and jewelry and crowns
and shit
just sitting in the
VA waiting room in Pittsburgh.
Captain
Bukasa.
That's me.
Now, he did try to make some money
at one point by writing memoirs, but they were
confiscated and destroyed by the French government
because he kept talking about that time that him and the
French president ran a train
on a woman.
Oh, that's what they fought the French Revolution over, so they couldn't say that in a book?
I'm actually surprised it was legal for the government to do that.
Maybe it's because he was there on some special permit.
I don't know.
But in 1986, he returned from exile, landing triumphantly back at the Bangui Airport,
and was arrested immediately upon arrival.
Oh, okay.
He was not greeted by cheering crowds of supporters.
I feel like they're all.
He was charged with murder, treason, cannibalism, illegal use of property, assault and battery, and embezzlement.
Now, throughout the trial, he just blamed everything on everybody else around him other than himself, saying that as emperor, it was the prime minister's job to do all this.
It's like, well, you were president for eight years before then.
Can we talk about that?
It was like, moving on.
You're focusing on the past.
He was found guilty of everything.
We'll talk about our future, baby, like the Bomar Gaddafi.
I'm called Gaddafi again.
Fuck this.
He was found guilty of all charges but
the cannibalism, which
strangely enough, was the most minor
of the charges as it was only a misdemeanor.
I got nothing good to say to that.
He escaped the misdemeanor charge
of cannibalism.
He was sentenced to death, but it was eventually overturned in 1988 uh with the sentence being reduced to life in prison and then um he got uh he got it reduced
to 20 years so he he kind of went the same career path as a lot of nazis there at the end like oh
no i got death oh no i have life ah see you in five years motherfucker admittedly 20 years in a south african prison or central african prison man
sounds pretty bad yeah and it definitely seems like he absolutely lost his fucking mind
he was released in a general amnesty in 1993 and quickly began to just show just how rapidly his
his mental capacity had declined.
He began to claim himself as the 13th
Apostle of Christ and that he hung out
in secret with the Pope all the time.
Yeah, he did the coronation or he was gutted.
He just got sidetracked.
Yeah.
Three years later, he finally
keeled over and died of a heart attack at the age of 75.
Wow, he made it longer
than I would have thought.
Yeah, now. Now,
unfortunately, time
is nothing if not a fucking bastard.
We need to fast forward to 2010
for our last bit, and a guy named Francois
Bozay's. So,
funny story about Francois, he was the president
at this point, and he also
was a general in Bocasa's Imperial Guard.
Now, if you remember back when I
said that Bocasa once just
promoted a guy to general from
private because he slapped a French
guy, that's him.
Yeah, he is a
Bocasa loyalist
to this day.
I mean, he also is the guy who commanded
the slaughter of school children
as a general in Bocasa's Imperial Guard.
Okay. He was president.
Oh, good. Great.
He also seized power in a different coup
and then lost power in a different
coup. Things aren't going great
in Central Africa.
I imagine they rarely
deal.
Currently torn apart by a civil war.
Now, anyway, Francois
issued a decree rehabilitating
Bocasa and calling him, quote,
a son of the nation recognized all
by a great builder.
I
dispute that.
I would dispute that
hard, real, real hard.
Son of
the nation.
That's right, he's the son of the nation man
so Liam we do a little thing on the show
called questions from the legion
I know how it works Joe
I am describing it for our listeners
you motherfucker
that's fair okay okay
nobody needs to get hurt
put the gun down Joe
so if you would
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donate to the show and you too can slide to my DMS in the,
uh,
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Discord,
uh,
Patreon and ask us a question from the Legion.
So this person asks,
uh,
during your time in the military,
did you ever get any scary slash spoopy stories?
Liam,
I know you were not in the military,
but because you are from
Pennsylvania, I will count that. Go birds.
Go birds.
Yeah, dude.
Yeah, alright. A little bit.
So, a little bit outside York,
there's this town called Hellam
and there's an urban legend
called the Seven Gates
of Hell, where
if you pass through these old gates, they're all factory where you're if you pass through these like old gates
they're all factory gates if you pass through all seven like you know on a full moon or something
like blah blah blah basically like a bloody mary type of thing okay but i was with some friends i
was like in high school and like i don't believe in ghosts or anything you know it's not a third
like their their cops have gotten a lot more aggressive about, like, people trespassing down there.
It's like, it's not safe, whatever.
But I was there.
It was like 1245 in the morning.
And I remember there were, like, the sound of voices and this bright red light.
Like, if you had covered a flashlight sort of in that like cellophane
yeah uh bright red light and then the voices stopped but the light didn't and like we hit
like we we flipped the car in reverse and when we uh we like got back up to the main road
there was still like a very bright red light and like clearly people had like followed us
but like didn't say anything to us didn't say like hey get the fuck out like we're just like
following us very closely and oh man that i did not like that yeah actually i have a fucking
similar story um cannot remember uh where the town is in Michigan.
I want to say Clarkston, Warren, something like that.
Not Detroit.
Oh, and because I'm going a little off the question,
I don't have any spoopy stories from the military,
so I have to go to my civilian life as well.
There is a place called Crooks Road.
I remember what the road is called and it was that
designated road that every teenage group is like no man it's totally haunted you have to go there
at night and uh normally we would just get really high or drunk and i think i was like i want to say
between the ages of 13 and 15 um you know being real classy being high and drunk and then you'd
have a friend that would drive so they'd be the least high or drunk amongst Oh, boy. And then you'd have a friend that would drive, so they'd be the least
high or drunk amongst you. Yes, yes. No, I
too was a teenager as well.
Well, yeah, if you're listening,
I was the least high or drunk
friend.
And we would
drive down Crooks Road, and there was
various stories, depending
on who was telling it. It was the site
of a mental institution
or there was a crazed incestuous family that lived out in the woods like the hills have eyes or
whatever um and i mean what is probably true there's probably was some people that lived out
the woods and didn't want people fucking messing with them yeah yeah or it was older people who
knew that we would be out there and were also fucking with us.
But one time on our drive back, we did get chased by a pickup truck out of the woods.
Because it was a dirt road.
It's like a hard pack dirt road.
And it was very, very skinny.
So it's kind of a bitch to turn around on.
Right.
And we would drive down it, be drunk and high or whatever and then
turn around drive back and as we were driving back and like this is a dead end road or it goes
to nowhere someone in the area is probably saying i'm fucking this all up i don't remember again i
was high and drunk uh but like a truck tore out of the darkness and like chased us out there and
the fucking uh a poor bastard that was driving like driving our car got us out of there. And the fucking, uh, a poor bastard that was driving, like driving our car,
uh,
got us out of there as fast as that shitty old,
like Caprice classic would take us.
Uh,
and I never went back.
Um,
I'm not,
I'm not someone that like,
I'm not religious.
I don't believe in ghosts or whatever,
but that like just hit the,
my,
my brain the right way that I feel that i want to fuck with that again i feel you
absolutely there was a place um in kentucky when i was stationed there stationed at fort knox
um there was a sanitarium i believe uh that was well known for being creepy they did a whole bunch
of um like specials and documentaries and stuff on it and i never i wanted to go and fuck with it but the one like i got scared away not from like
ghosts because like no you'll get arrested to get a trespassing ticket oh okay so i never went there
and then they end up bulldozing it so you know it's over but that is our show liam thank you for
joining us plug your podcast uh, there's a problem.
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these days.
Thank you, everybody. Thank you for joining
us again on this two-part journey.
Until next time, do not crown yourself emperor
of the Central African Republic.
Or at the very least, understand
how to maintain your friendships.
Yeah. You know what?
Friendship is a two-way street.
Don't reevaluate your friendships. You have Muammar Gaddafi.
Because he may deliver you
to the French.