Lions Led By Donkeys Podcast - Episode 56 - Soviet Afghan War 2: Operation Storm 333
Episode Date: June 24, 2019Another Afghan head of state is assassinated and replaced with an even more insane despot. The Soviets decide if anyone is going to assassinate the President, it is going to be THEM. Support the show... and get bonus content: https://www.patreon.com/lionsledbydonkeys If you're a military sci fi fan buy Joe's book Citizen of Earth: https://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Earth-Galaxy-Joseph-Kassabian/dp/1949645347/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2UC12MRLI20M7&keywords=citizen+of+earth+joseph+kassabian&qid=1561376068&s=gateway&sprefix=citizen+of+ear%2Caps%2C199&sr=8-1 Buy some shirts: https://teespring.com/stores/lions-led-by-donkeys-store
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hello and welcome to another episode of lines left by donkeys i'm joe with me is nick
and today we are on part two of the Soviet-Afghan war.
So, you know, don't start in part two.
Go back and listen to all the revolutionary stuff in part one,
unless you want to live dangerously or something.
Yeah, you could start.
You could wait till we finish.
Go part four.
Listen to it backwards.
Go to part one and then briefly go back to the end again
and then go back to the beginning.
Listen to the podcast series as if you're watching the movie Memento.
Yes.
So when we left you last week, Afghan Premier Hafizullah Amin was very nearly poisoned by his own Soviet allies.
I didn't enjoy the cliffhanger.
You ended off with Operation 333 and it was fucking sweet.
We'll get there.
I promise.
Okay.
And while all this is going on, Soviet forces, who are nominally advisors, are trickling into Afghanistan at Amin's urging.
Also, I feel like I need to say again that Hafizullah Amin smothered his predecessor with a pillow.
His smothering pillow.
Give me my smothering pillow.
He doesn't wash. No. Well, you can't wash the smothering pillow. Give me my smothering pillow. He doesn't wash.
Well, you can't wash the smothering pillow.
You gotta keep all the stank on it.
So, in the meantime,
Afghanistan had been rapidly spiraling
out of control, and
Amin was quickly proving
completely unable to handle any of it.
Which isn't that surprising
because even the Soviets thought he kind of sucked already.
I imagine they didn't give a fuck, though.
Well, they didn't want to fail and they certainly didn't want to put someone in charge.
I would do so badly.
They would have no choice but to attack as he's doing.
That's how badly Amin is doing so far. For instance, within not that long of a time period of Amin being in charge, that the Mujahideen had been rising up all around the country and held around 90% of the territory and all main lines of communications in the provinces of Jaujan, Takkar, Bashkadan, Logar, Gaur, Kapisa, Ghanzi, Zabul, Helmand zabool helman farah harat and bagdas so pretty much the
only thing the government controlled was kabul jesus but remember they they purposely set up to
not do that and then they did it anyway yeah uh except before the government didn't control the
countrysides but they at least had all the cities for the most part now they don't even have that
amin himself like his predecessor
distrusted his own army so much that he requested an all muslim battalion from the red army to be
his personal bodyguards uh so the soviets agreed and sent thousands of muslim soldiers from their
central asian republics uh that joined the other thousands of soviet advisors that were already in
the country um which brings us to operation storm 333 yes and
again i have to leave you at a cliffhanger because we have to get to the so last episode we only
covered the afghan side of how we ended up here oh damn it the soviet side is just as bad just
with a whole lot less pillow smothering and more vodka a lot more um Also, before we go on, last episode, I said Leonid Brezhnev, the Soviet premier, was old, senile, and drunk.
That part is true.
I said he was like 80 or 90.
That part is not true.
He died when he was 75.
So he's in his 70s.
I had to correct myself.
But he is old beyond his years.
If you look at a picture of him, he looks 80-something.
Didn't age well. He was also
in horrible health, so he might as well
have been 90.
So, back on the 8th of December
1979, Brezhnev held
a meeting with several others, which
the meeting eventually came to the conclusion
that something must be done about Afghanistan.
They came up with two options.
One was using the KGB to facilitate
a change of power to depose Amin and install Bobrock Carmel from exile.
If that failed, they would just use the military to do it.
This would be the last time that Leonid Brezhnev, who was the head of the Soviet state, mind you, would be consulted at all about the use of Soviet troops in Afghanistan.
You really fucked this up.
all about the use of soviet troops in afghanistan you really fucked this up so um at this point in his life brezhnev was incredibly sick and frail he was also using copious amounts of booze as
medicine uh for his various medical problems um the politburo around him uh it sure is in the
soviet union uh the politburo around him rapidly turned towards the idea of an intervention in Afghanistan. It would only take a few
weeks and
fed the dying, drunk head of state outright
lies in order to sell him on the issue.
It's even thought to
this day that the directive that would
send the Red Army to war was actually
a fake signature planted by the KGB
because it looks absolutely nothing like
any other signature that lay in a Brezhnev debt.
Oh, the shit I used to just to get away from like actually having a like report card signed by my
parents oh yeah i did that too yeah they did that yeah yeah they did that to send uh 80 000
soldiers to war i think i did better i mean it also speaks volumes of how little brezhnev
what what power he still had.
Um,
and he is like,
I think he was the longest serving Soviet premier outside of,
uh,
Joseph Stalin.
So he should have had some political clout,
but like,
well,
all these parts are moving.
He could do nothing to stop it.
And he didn't know anything about it,
which is really weird.
Yeah.
So there's like almost an outside government,
a shadow government.
Yeah. And they pretty much made all of their foreign policy decisions.
We'll talk about that a little bit later.
Okay.
So Brezhnev's personal doctor, a guy named Mikhail Khusarov, commented that when Brezhnev was in his right mind and sober, which was rare, he openly spoke out against committing soldiers on the ground to Afghanistan.
The Soviet army at this point is not the Soviet army of World War II.
It's more closely related
to the Russian army
of the horrible first Chechen War.
Pretty much falling apart.
You don't want to be that one.
No, it's everybody knows it
to be openly corrupt,
falling apart at the seams,
pretty much slapped together
with duct tape and wire
with massive amounts of conscription
every year.
Everybody in charge
knew that deploying it away from home was a really bad idea uh they just happened to not be anyone
anybody listened to um soviet ambassador to the u.s anatoly dobran actually blamed the entire thing
on mikhail susalov a longtime political operative who exerted a ton of influence and is considered the chief ideologue of the Communist Party at the time.
What is known without speculation is the plans for intervention came from Foreign Minister Andrei Gromko.
Grimko?
No, one of the other.
We're not good at names.
Defense Minister Dmitry Ustinov and the KGB chairman and future head of the Soviet state, Dmitry Andropov with virtually no input at all from the state politburo or the
head of state himself.
The Soviet military leaders who objected to the coming military action were
told to mind their own business or simply fired.
This included chief of the general staff,
Marshall Nikolai Ogorkov,
who had suddenly been told out of nowhere to prepare 80,000 soldiers for deployment, something that the Soviet Union has not done in decades.
During a meeting on the 11th of December, Ogurkov, seemingly the only adult in the room, pleaded with the rest of the planners an invasion was a terrible idea, even if they were being invited.
terrible idea, even if they were being invited. He referred to the Afghan tradition of resistance against foreign invaders on their land, warning that the probability of Soviet troops being pulled
into direct fighting rather than the policing action that they were trying to sell would just
all be in vain, all of his arguments be ignored. He said, quote, we will pit all of Eastern Islam
against us and we will lose politically in the entire world. If that does not sound
prophetic to you, it will soon.
So
he seems to be the only one
that had any understanding of military
anything, which isn't that
surprising in a room full of politicians.
What is
surprising is he immediately
saw what would happen. He saw
this thing way clearer than anybody else.
And at the time, the people really running the war effort, or what would soon to be a war effort, really was saying, this will only take a couple weeks.
We're not even going to fight anybody.
We're just going to show up.
Everybody will see the support that the PDPA government has, and all this will just come to an end.
Which is like the dumbest fucking thing you can possibly imagine.
Solid idea. I mean, everybody says this is the Soviet Union's Vietnam and that's accurate.
But I think that it's somehow worse because at least going into Vietnam, the U.S. military had some concept of they were going into a guerrilla war.
It seems like the soviet leadership was
either blind or wantonly ignorant about i think they were ignorant about the whole thing
yeah i i'm i'm kind of on both sides i do believe that they thought um they had first world syndrome
like yeah these stupid cave people won't dare stand up against us type shit like just dumb
racism type stuff uh and racism was absolutely not foreign in the soviet
union which we'll talk about in a little bit um i could absolutely see that of being like
another good example is like colonial wars uh where like the british military would routinely
send uh groups of soldiers against thousands of native soldiers because like well the british
army can't possibly lose to a bunch of savages.
Yeah.
And then they did and they stopped doing that.
And this is what happened to the Soviet union.
So by this point,
Amin had moved to the Tajburg palace in the center of Kabul. It was surrounded by his Muslim Soviet bodyguards and several dozen members of
the Afghan presidential guard.
It ended up being around 2,200 guys.
At the same time,
thousands of KGB special forces and members of the airborne regiments of the Soviet Union had arrived in Afghanistan.
Now, these were all in secret.
In order to conceal this from the Afghan authorities, they addressed the civilians and landed in civilian planes.
They were given security plans and the operation of the palace and how everything worked.
Did they get a good tan beforehand?
did they get a good tan before i would imagine so coming from uh soviet russia which was where most of the kgb and airborne guys came from was like uh to you know afghanistan right they're
getting they're getting sunflaked the first time um now the the muslim the muslim battalion was
commanded by soviet officers and they are really what it's called yeah yeah that's crazy i mean i mean obviously
the so you need a large muslim population they just never really supported religion right um but
yeah they they're like well shit we got thousands of muslim soldiers laying around muslim battalion
that is your name yeah deal with it they weren't good with names um now operations on the other
hand the soviets also planned the the also planned the procedures and the protective posture of the palace,
which they then gave all those plans to the special forces and KGB.
So it's like you not are only cheating on this test by getting the answers.
You also cheated on the test that you made for yourself.
Yeah.
Everything is stacked up against the poor Afghans.
I have no idea what's coming. Yeah. It's just, everything is stacked up against the poor Afghans. I have no idea what's coming.
Jesus.
The Soviets prepared
the rest of their army
for the upcoming war,
which they thought
would only last
a week,
two weeks.
Because the vastness
of the Soviet Union,
they decided it would make
a lot more sense
to mobilize Red Army troops
from the Central Asian Republic,
seeing how they were
just over the border.
And they could be
just driven over land into
Afghanistan in only a few hours. Good idea.
There's a small problem with that.
The Soviets did not think highly of their
Central Asian comrades.
Despite the equality and
egalitarianism of Soviet
communism, that did not apparently
extend to the people they
called yellow asses.
What? Yeah, they're racist as fuck there's also
other racist terms that more directly translate to english i will not say because it is oh they're
that bad it is damn close to regular old american racism oh that's bad yeah um this is not because
they're bad soldiers but because the soviet union was racist as fuck and they thought they were
simply too stupid to learn russian which it was weird because they're soldiers
and the soviet army made absolutely no attempt to teach them there's something of a problem as
russian was the common technical language of the military so in the u.s army you get manuals and
instruction books how to do everything they're all written in english simple enough i mean you
do have to have some kind of fluency in english to be a soldier here but imagine if you didn't
now like work any of these things you can't read what any switch or toggle or anything says yeah
now this is the life that these soldiers were living not good um for example during the first
days of mobilization no one paid any attention to the quality,
the quality or the quantity of specialists filling out the units.
Everybody was confident that the usual inspection was being done and all and
everything would just end up.
Okay.
So by,
by specialists,
I mean mechanics,
artillery crew,
man,
things like that.
People would just show up and they're like,
well,
they probably know what they're doing,
but they weren't.
It turned out because of their lack of knowledge of the Russian language,
none of these guys knew how to drive or operate tanks.
Our personnel care carriers use artillery or radio operation systems.
That's really vital.
They are effectively a bunch of dudes with rifles.
That's really vital.
So rather than transport new soldiers in that knew what they were doing,
they just,
or they just or
they just forced these guys uh to use the equipment uh that they had no idea how to do
they didn't even set time aside to train them because now you have to put yourself in the way
that the soviet commanders are thinking here why does it matter they're only going to be there a
couple weeks throw them into the fire right this is going to be a small fire it's only a few weeks
yeah to make matters
worse, tens of thousands of reservists
simply never received their call-up orders due to
bad record keeping. Many of the
reserve officers had never actually been sent to
the officer's academy.
God, I've been an officer
for quite a while. Yeah.
When can I go to school? You haven't
gone to school yet, Lieutenant?
No. Well, welcome aboard.
You're going to go ahead and get deployed.
Okay.
Also, another problem was there was no plan.
There's never been a plan like this other than like emergency.
The Soviet Union's being invaded, mobilize everybody.
No, this had ever been attempted in the area.
As if things cannot be planned anywhere,
the Soviets also did not develop
any new kind of uniform for their soldiers.
They would simply roll into
Afghanistan in virtually the same uniform
they'd go to parades in.
Everything from their jackets to their pants, and especially
their giant fucking jackboots
were restrictive and suited for
something very little outside of
walking down the street.
They're literally wearing
what looked like this same boots that they wore in world war ii yeah jack boots pretty much yeah
those aren't the same things were so bad that anybody with extra money uh simply would have
bought a pair of knockoff adidas tennis shoes called mock buzz mock buzz yeah it's so it's the
cyrillic version of Moscow.
Because instead of a label that would say Adidas,
there's no private companies in the Soviet Union.
And the way that they are made from old Adidas machines left behind from the Olympics in the Soviet Union,
there had to be something there,
like something to fill, but they couldn't leave it blank.
So like, well, fuck fuck it it's a Moscow
shoe it's being made in Moscow
do they still have the three
stripes yeah they did
they were identical to Adidas
gazelle running shoes this is
amazing can we buy these
and wear them they went
out of print as of 2011
so they're still going
holy fuck it was either 2011 or 2009 one of the two but yeah Went out of print as of 2011. So they're still going? Yep. Holy fuck.
Yep.
It was either 2011 or 2009, one of the two, but yeah.
I wonder how, I feel like our size shoe might be a little expensive.
Probably a little bit hard to find.
Yeah.
We're rather large people.
This is actually why in almost every single picture of the Spetsnaz or the Russian airborne troops,
they're always wearing counterfeit kicks
instead of fucking combat boots.
Counterfeit kicks.
The knockoff Adidas ended up becoming
something of a status symbol within the Soviet army,
an army that didn't exactly have a lot of status symbols
by design.
Because if you had a pair,
you're obviously in the best units in the military.
Nobody else got extra pay.
Nobody else would be able to get these things.
In many cases, the commanders got their hands on them and gave them to their soldiers.
So, in essence, these shoes were the Soviet version of a coyote tan baseball cap with a Velcro American flag and beards that we see today in America's toxic military culture.
They just had shoes.
Yeah.
I think shoes were better.
Very.
Because I would love to have some mock this.
You can just get a pair of adidas they're
virtually the same thing just way more expensive i just want mock so with that more than 50 000
officers sergeants and soldiers were called up from the reserves to bring the i have a pair of
adidas sorry sorry to cut you off no please talk you see me squatting them pretty often actually
so they i'm using them definitely from what they're intended to be used for.
Either climbing the mountains of Afghanistan or squatting on the street corner smoking cigarettes and eating sunflower seeds.
So with that, 50,000 officers, sergeants, and soldiers were called up from the reserves to bring the unit strength up to around 8 000 vehicles and 80 000 soldiers now those
vehicles were sent from the economy as they said the economy sounds terrible now the economy here
means virtually any fucking truck they get their hands on yeah not all of them are military trucks
it's like fuck it's a cargo truck it's good enough here's a toyota fucking tacoma go bam
now like i said before mobilization measures of this scale
had never been tried before
or even thought of
in the Turkestan Central Asian Military Districts.
Accordingly,
local governments,
directors of enterprise,
farms and draft boards,
and the military
turned out completely
and utterly unprepared for them.
Not enough uniforms,
not enough rifles,
shit like that.
Well, that's like the the story
that i hear where during parades or anything that had to do with the soviet union they'd go back
turn around put on new paint and keep going through the parade just to show that their
military might i mean that they're so short on shit that's not that surprising um that's
they've actually shown that a lot of parades in North Korea
where it shows floods of people marching by.
It's like a sleight of eye trick.
We've talked about before is like a battle tactic
where soldiers will march around
and they dip behind cover and pop back around.
And it looks like it's an endless stream of soldiers
when in reality they only have like 30.
They're like, oh man, there's so many platoons like it's just one going around circles you just don't see it double back and around but yeah i mean i would not be surprised at all uh which
brings us back to the palace uh the special forces airborne and kgb operatives have changed into their
afghan army uniforms now to go undercover. The day before the operation
was to begin on the 26th,
the Afghan in the army
began to get a little suspicious about the situation
going on around them. These guys are
fair skinned. These guys
don't fucking speak Pashto.
Yeah. As anyone
would with half a fucking
operating brain when tens of thousands
of Soviet soldiers randomly show up
in the country. Now,
it was pretty obvious that there was a buildup
on military bases
and in Kabul and stuff like that.
But it was supposed to be a secret.
Some of them are housed openly as
soldiers and other ones
are doing
spook shit in safe
houses. Pretending to be Afghans.
There's thousands of them.
There's probably a fair amount of
Tajiks
and stuff like that that can play the part
and speak to local languages.
The Afghans picked up on it.
Do you think any of the spook guys ever tried
I got a hit on a guy
and it was another one of his KGB guys
but he didn't realize it and they're just tricking each other like oh I'm gonna get this guy to hit on each other
I feel like they probably definitely did what are you what are you talking about
let's say one guy spooked on another guy that was a spook as well
one of them didn't know that he was a spook they totally thought each other were just Afghani guys
Afghans the money's Afghani.
Afghan guys.
That's just what I see
in my head.
I didn't know you were a spy.
Are you a spy? It's spy versus
spy because everybody's drunk and probably one of
them is going to die.
There was an
obvious build up. There was already
thousands of Soviets there in an advisory role, but there was already thousands of soviets there in an advisory
role but like everybody noticed the influx of soviet soldiers they weren't exactly trying to
hide it um the soviets also started randomly getting shot at by elements of the afghan army
really yeah and the soviets who were really really confused and without what any orders to do
if this happened, didn't
shoot back. They all just kind of sat there
and waited until the Afghans got bored
and left. What? Yeah.
There's a reason that the Soviets didn't know why they were
being shot at. They didn't know the plan.
They were just there.
So only the KGB
and the Special Forces
guys knew
what their ultimate plan was.
Everybody else just thought they're in Afghanistan.
This is a hardship tour.
I'm just going to be here.
It's like if you got PCS orders to Korea and had no idea you're suddenly taking part of an invasion of North Korea.
So this was obvious when you understand that the day of the the operation which was the 27th no one soldier
knew the entire plan wow uh nobody had been given written orders only verbal ones to make sure that
nothing could fall in the hands of the afghans which is only cool if you only read spy novels
and never interact with other people in your life um so imagine you're a small unit leader how many
people do those orders pass you before they get to you?
Dozens.
Hundreds, right?
Have you ever played a game of telephone where you start on one side of the room with a message?
Yes, I have.
Yeah, it's like that, but with around 80,000 people.
That's even worse.
Yeah.
It'll just come out at the end just, nah.
Yeah.
So the regular soldiers and advisors had no idea that they're taking part in this plan.
The only ones that had any remote idea was the special forces guys.
So they're even more confused by the people they're working with are suddenly taking potshots at them.
What?
Inside the palace, Amin was on cloud nine.
He got what he wanted.
Soviet troops were in Afghanistan in the thousands.
Partying.
Something that he had been begging since Taraki was in charge.
His inner circle was all Soviet military advisors, KGB agents,
and the only doctor he trusted was also a Soviet.
Those guys fucking partying.
So nobody around him was like,
I don't think these guys are our friends.
They're like, the Soviets are great, Mr. Amin.
They're perfect.
Don't listen to me, Mr. Joe KGB agent.
Here's some vodka.
While he was worried about attacks from the Mujahideen
or maybe even his political enemies, he trusted
the Soviets more than anyone else on Earth.
Which we are learning more and more is a
bad thing to do if you're in Afghanistan.
And that's when Amin's
entire family was poisoned.
Again!
Again!
What was...
This time, it was his trusted Soviet chef.
What? Why?
Because he was trying to fucking assassinate him.
Yeah, but why?
Because that's the whole plan!
Fuck that, dude.
By the time the doctors arrived,
everyone in the room was convulsing or unconscious.
Amin himself was considered in serious condition.
Two Soviet doctors, who had no idea that they were interfering with their own government's assassination plot,
saved the man's life and restored his breathing and pumped his stomach.
Jesus.
At 19.50 hours, Soviet forces began their assault on the palace, starting Operation Storm 333.
Most of the Soviet manned anti-aircraft
batteries that were protecting the palace spun around
and started shooting at it. Holy fuck!
Under the command of Soviet forces,
many of the
president's own
bodyguards started shooting at each other,
and the Muslim battalion,
I mean, issued bodyguards,
immediately turned around and began securing the palace.
I'm so tripped up on the... shooting at each other? That means issued bodyguards immediately turned around and began securing the palace.
I'm still tripped up on the... Shooting at each other?
Yeah, there's a lot of people that start shooting at each other.
Like just Spider-Man and Spider-Man just going like this?
Who are you with?
But with AKs?
Yes.
KGB special forces in Afghan army uniforms began to scale the side of the palace using ladders and ropes.
Soviet armored vehicles charged through the security checkpoints.
In one case, crushing the Afghan soldier who was
manning it and attempting to surrender.
This is a movie.
Yeah, it's a
bad movie. It's a Jerry
Bruckheimer movie. There was only one road
leading to the palace with every other route being
heavily mined. So, there was
the one route that Soviet APCs
could use to advance all of them
immediately started getting shot at from the palace as as afghan uh soldiers started figuring
out what exactly was going on in real time when the shit's going down yeah uh one of the apc
commanders said quote we hardly had begun to move when our vehicle stopped the driver mechanic who
was one guy uh was frightened jumped on the bmp which was an apc that they had
and fled but i hadn't yet managed to decide on his replacement when he returned it turned out
it was even more frightening outside the vehicle holy fuck another one of his soldiers uh had
attempted to jump off the apc and then this immediately fell under its tracks and got crushed. Oh, fuck.
Why?
They were terrified.
They had no idea what they were doing.
They're like, oh, we're at war now.
Despite the withering fire, the Soviets managed to get up to the palace door and breach them.
All the various groups of soldiers were confused and each one was acting in their own direction.
And there's a reason for that.
There was no single command of the operation holy fuck every single unit had their own orders and no one was talking to one another like an elementary school playground yeah it's like you're playing
uh you're playing army in the backyard the whole bunch of kids and they all think they're in charge
that's very true and then you kill somebody and they're not dead in there but they're dead because
you hit them now there was one single unifying goal.
Get to the walls of the palace as quickly as possible, hide behind them, and then just sit there.
Because remember, not everybody knew the mission was to kill the prison of Afghanistan.
Their mission was to take the palace.
But once inside the palace, nobody knew what the fuck to do.
Did they essentially just kill anybody that was in there?
They kill everybody and anybody to include
themselves oh so they shoot at each other too yeah what the fuck this is great that was when
soviet forces began shooting at each other again because the special forces were in hostile
territory and foreign uniforms without documents and without any recognition whatsoever there's
only one symbol that showed that they were Soviet soldiers.
That was a white armband tied around their sleeve,
which was not brief to
other Soviet soldiers at the time, because
it would give away the fact that KGB and Spetsnaz
were attacking the palace.
You can see where this is all a problem.
Who came up with this?
Nobody really knows.
I wonder if everybody at the same time
was just like, hey hey let's attack the palace
the fire was so heavy that the safety glass and all the apcs were shot out
fuck and the armor skirting was punctured in every square centimeter when the soldiers said
that the appearance uh that it looked like a strainer or a colander uh it turns out the
special forces had been saved by their bulletproof vests, although they were all practically wounded by friendly or hostile fire.
That's not good.
Once inside the palace, the special forces soldiers cleared every single room
by throwing hand grenades and sweeping them with automatic weapons fire,
taking no prisoners.
During this time, Amin had finally woken up from his coma,
because remember, he had been incapacitated with poison,
finding himself in the middle of a war zone.
It happens. When the commander of his presidential
guard, seemingly the last loyal
Afghan in the palace,
rushed in to tell him what was happening, Amin told
him to call the Soviets for help.
When the commander told him that the Soviets
were attacking, Amin called him a liar
and fired him.
Like, motherfucker, you can't fire me.
I'm trying to help you the russian doctors
who were treating him in assumed they were under attack by the mujahideen and began to get worried
and that's when they heard russian soldiers screaming swear words down the hallway and
realized it was their own people oh that's where you gotta hide under the bed yeah because you
gotta wait you can't run out there and say you're one of them because you'll get shot. After about 45 minutes, the battle
inside the palace was over and
Hafizullah Amin lay dead
behind a bar counter.
He died wearing straight boxer shorts
and a polo and was shot in the face.
See? To this day,
nobody's really sure who killed him
and nobody has taken credit for it, but it's all but
certain that the KGB special forces had
orders to kill him on sight.
The attack was so confused
and badly planned that as soon as the palace
was secured by Soviet forces,
it quickly came under attack
again. Who do you think
attacked it? I want to go
with the Soviets again. An entire
airborne division of the Soviet army.
They charged at their own men,
bayonets mounted, and the result
was a confused two-hour-long firefight
that killed at least 50 people.
That is insanely funny, to be honest.
Oh my god.
I was joking.
The main source that I'm using for this series is a book called The Great Game.
It's great. Read it.
I actually read that chapter three times to make sure I wasn't misunderstanding something.
There's a lot going on on one side of the faction.
It turns out the Soviets could kick their own ass a whole lot better than the Afghan army could.
I bet you they did it on purpose
just to show.
Like a fucking boss move.
You know what's a great training idea?
Let's just attack each other with live weapons.
That's a great idea.
How else are you going to show how badass you are?
We'll kick our own ass.
I don't need your help.
I can do this myself.
So the palace however was not the only building targeted in the operation
here is
probably my favorite story
from the whole saga
the general
staff of the Afghan army was also
targeted and generally went a whole
lot easier than the palace operation
when soldiers saw they were being attacked by soldiers of the Red Army was also targeted and generally went a whole lot easier than the palace operation.
When soldiers saw they were being attacked by soldiers of the
Red Army and not Mujahideen, they pretty
much surrendered immediately. The same thing
cannot be said for the Afghan Chief of Staff
General Yakub, who was
actually in the middle of a meeting with the Soviet military
advisor from the 103rd
Airborne Division, a major named
Ivan Raznov,
when the whole operation kicked off which it
should be noted that the major also had no idea what was going on either nobody knows anything
so in the middle of all this um yakub gets a a phone call that the soviets were under attack
the soviets were attacking them and to uh order his men to mobilization uh major rosnoff overhears the phone call realizes that the two
are apparently at war now and they quickly get in a fucking fist fight this is awesome it's like
oh i guess we have to kill each other now
like something out of a fucking john clancy movie you say john clancy that's not his name is it no
it's not it's tom clancy you got joe clancy you got tom clancy john clancy's tom clancy's
shitty cousin yeah that made terrible books um also this is great I just like these two guys
in the middle of a meeting like
probably having tea probably drinking
vodka
and then like somebody get a phone call like
I guess we have to murder each other now
they just set their tea down like indeed
and they just start beating the dog shit out of each other
and that's when one of the major's
aides kicked open the door of the room and shot
Yakub in the arm. What?
Why?
Because you don't want a fair fight. It's fisticuffs!
Like,
Major Rostov looks at him like, no, no, no.
He's mine. And, like, just pulls a knife
out of his fucking Adidas tennis shoe.
Shit.
Honestly,
this is awesome. And then Yakub surrendered because he got fucking shot
i would do yeah i would do good call on that one uh another soviet force made its way to the radio
and television center across the city their goal was to secure it and broadcast a message to the
afghan people uh to you know let everybody know that bob rock Kamal is coming to save them all. Shit like that. Also, we do not know who we are fighting,
so just stay away.
The Soviets' whole plan was actually to roll in,
take over the radio center,
and start playing some awful Soviet pop music.
Oh, yes.
This fucking bass-ass techno music.
Afghans are like, Jesus Christ, what is this?
Honestly,
when they dance to that music,
it looks like they're fighting.
This all stems together.
This is great.
That's how you train to be a soldier.
You listen to fucking Russian techno music
and kick the air.
There was actually an Afghan tank unit
stationed in the area, in the area,
and had been ordered to combat readiness.
One small problem.
Who were they fighting?
They had no idea.
They had,
someone just said,
we're under attack,
get ready to defend yourself.
Like, yeah, right.
But like, who?
So like,
the Soviet soldier simply walked up to them,
like, hey, surrender.
They're like, all right.
And that was it.
Whatever.
They're just done.
All right.
All right. You seem all right to me uh another force at the ministry of eternal affairs uh compound
and instead of walking up and just telling them to surrender they immediately begin attacking
the afghans with uh automatic grenade launchers confusing the hell out of the defenders had no
idea what was happening uh it took about 15 minutes for them to capture the building wow
by the morning of the
28th, Kabul was all but secured
and the Afghan government toppled by their allies.
That day
is when the... That was probably the best
ever.
This is the best shit I've heard in a while.
Fighting! Yes!
All coked up.
Ah!
That was when the Soviet limited contingent of the armed forces of the Soviet Union,
which was their official name for the Soviet mission in the country,
began to stream into the country across the borders from the Soviet republics.
I wish you could see what's in my head right now.
This is great.
That battle plan is exactly what would happen if you looked at any battle plan
from like counter-strike everybody just jumping up and down spinning around in circles and firing
an ak and full auto while screaming racial slurs yes that's how i assume this looked like i saw it
as also a video game you did not disappoint with part two uh so on the evening of the 28th carmel was driven
in a convoy caramel caramel uh bab rat caramel uh was driven in a convoy to kabul to take a seat
as leader of afghanistan a seat that was probably still warm from the guy the soviets just murk
once he got there oh oh wait, hold on.
So wipes off some of the blood.
All right, it's all yours now.
The KGB officer's like, oh, sorry, we left a piece of him behind.
Our bad.
As he's just standing around the smoking presidential palace full of corpses like, yes, all this is mine now.
We also did fight our own people, but it is yours.
Yes.
Carmel officially announced via radio
that Amin had been tried and executed
by a revolutionary council of the people.
He also immediately began a purge of Amin loyalists.
It's definitely not the people.
Because of course he did.
It's like, I don't know how many people Amin's purge killed.
Tens of thousands, I assume, like all the other ones.
But like, hmm,
what is my first order of business in this
country with all these problems? I'm gonna kill
my own people! He's a product of his
environment. Once he got there,
he saw the dead body. He's like
a dog chasing a car. He has no,
like, he wants to be in charge,
but he has no idea what he's gonna do to actually
govern this mess once he actually has it.
So,
why not?
There's so many problems. You mean, why not
commit a purge? Because purges are bad.
Name one purge that
was good other than, like,
de-Stalinization.
The movie was alright. The first one sucked.
The second one was good. I liked the second one.
The third one was awful. I haven't seen that one.
Save yourself some time.
So this is the pattern that the Soviets' intervention kind of fell into,
which was much of what had been happening before the Soviets got there.
Soviet soldiers occupied cities and attempted to patrol main highways
in between them to keep logistics channels open.
So hold on.
Do they know who they're fighting
at this point see the so so the soviets do don't think they're there to fight okay because remember
they don't think this is a war a tour if you will they see it as a little more than a policing
action that will that they'll be home within the month so they're not fighting okay gotcha that's
the problem they are and they did not prepare for this. Mujahideen pretty much occupied everything that the Soviet soldiers were not currently standing on.
The Soviet leadership thought the introduction of 80,000 Red Army soldiers would pacify the growing insurgency.
In fact, it did the exact opposite.
It unified various rebel groups who had been spending their spare time fighting each other along with the government around the flag of nationalism and Islam.
A full 80% of the entire country was fully out of government control many rural afghans who had chafed under amin's reforms are now on the verge of joining the
spontaneous resistance they had been on the fence kind of hoping for amin to come around and govern
the country effectively right but they also sympathize with the with the mujahideen but
they're very suspicious of soviet forces that claim that they're there only to help them
uh these people were armed with mostly 19th century muskets world war ii era lee
lee infield rifles and ak-47s most of them coming from government stockpiles muskets yeah jazails uh
holy fuck yeah like uh so if you're if you're not familiar with a jazail
uh it's you know a black powder musket yeah heavily decorated they look baller as shit
it's like if you wanted to bling out a gun this is what it would look like if i wanted to go on a
african hunting trip i'd bring a jazail i mean it's not really africa's thing it's not i mean
if you want to look if i wanted to look like a douche bag.
Oh,
just sales.
I'll make it look like douche bag.
Exactly.
Going into,
and I wear some short shorts,
American version of a Giselle would be an AR 15 that you handed down to your
kid that had a spinner rim on the buttstock.
But like Giselles are cool as shit.
There's actually multiple accounts of people finding them to this day.
Uh,
they're pretty much priceless.
They're,
they're heirlooms. Um, hopefully not a lot of people took them to this day. They're pretty much priceless. They're heirlooms.
Hopefully not a lot of people took them as war trophies because it's a fucked up thing to do.
But they look
fucking awesome.
Exactly.
They took that stockpile and prepared
to fight against what they saw as what was
another in a long stream
of foreign invasions of Afghanistan.
And that was the thing that kind of
tipped the Mujahideen from being controlling the countryside. And now they can threaten everywhere
because there's a lot of fence sitters in Afghanistan who didn't really like the Mujahideen,
didn't really like the government. They're just going to sit it out and hope that things return
to normal, that the government leave them alone, let them farm, go back to their villages,
whatever. This was the tipping point. The Soviets pissed a lot of people off by coming there uh remember because outside the cities it's a very conservative country very
deeply tied to the religion and the soviet union had prided itself for decades for being
an atheist country which is like stands in stark contrast of everything that the afghans stood for
outside their own government um not to mention they don't like foreigners like stay the fuck
out if they get if nobody has made this more clear than afghanistan i don't know who you're
not maybe the vietnamese all they know is foreign oppression they're really good at throwing them off yeah
uh that all this caused things to quickly spiral out of control for the soviets
soon their policing action and uh came under increasing amount of attacks and their convoys
pretty much could not go from point a to point b without coming under fire um the guy that the
soviets put in charge bob rock carmel had the balls to actually blame the Soviets for all this unrest, which, sure, they did just kill the goddamn president and give him a new one, but it started way before then.
Also, the Soviets were invited.
They didn't invade, technically.
They're technically correct, which is the best kind of correct.
I mean, it's technically, but it kind of sounded like an invasion it so amin had been
asking for them and carmel also wanted them there he got his face scooped out by them yeah i'm not
saying inviting the soviets to your country is a good idea i'm just saying they did it yeah okay
um they rsvp'd yeah i mean this insurgency had been going on four years and about, like, fucking three
liters ago. You know, like, the Soviets
didn't cause this. Yeah, no, they didn't.
The PDPA caused this. And even
Daoud caused this by overthrowing the goddamn
king. Oh, yeah, Daoud is a bitch.
Like Amin, Karmal did not
trust his own army, and
it, too, began to erupt into outright
mutiny, leaving the Soviet army to fight
them alongside the Mujahideen.
This is despite
the fact that the bulk of the Soviet forces
were never intended to fight anyone.
Instead, they were supposed to be a little more than a show
of support for the PDPA.
Which leads us to the massive disconnect
the Soviet leadership in Moscow had
with anything resembling
reality on the ground in Afghanistan.
Do they still think that they're just there to police?
Oh, one more than that.
Leonid Brezhnev, on the 28th of January,
back in Moscow, who would never step foot in Afghanistan,
thought their job in Afghanistan was over,
and he ordered all regular Soviet ground forces to leave the country.
That's it, guys.
War in Afghanistan is over.
Great job.
Thank you for tuning into the
podcast
I'm just fucking
kidding
of course it didn't
happen
shit went on for
nine fucking years
you said this was
multiple parts
two is multiple
so that is when
the triumvirate
of Andropov
Gromko
and Ustinov
just kind of
stepped in and
overruled him
no they were not
allowed to do that
but they did it anyway he She stepped on his dick.
Just stomped on it. Yeah.
With the heel of their Adidas
track shoes.
Check out these motherfucking
makpas, bitch!
They argued withdrawing would be a serious mistake.
Amin may have been removed, but it would
take time for Karamal to exert his authority
and stabilize Afghanistan.
Soviet forces should remain
until the Afghan government was strengthened,
they explained in a report to Brezhnev.
Pulling out would prompt the Afghans
to claim Moscow was an unreliable partner.
Which, you just
invaded their presidential palace and killed
the president. You're an unreliable
partner. You did more than kill the president.
You killed a lot of
people. You killed your own people. You killed a lot of people. You killed your own people.
Yeah. You killed a lot of your own
soldiers.
But the Soviet, they argued the Soviet
Union would have to stay and help.
In case any of this sounds familiar,
you've been paying attention
to the news the last, oh, 20 years.
And that is when Soviet
forces would start digging in
for the long haul. And that is where we forces would start digging in for the long haul
and that is where we'll pick up
next week
you keep ending this on cliffhangers
I got nine years of cliffhangers here
we got plenty of cliffhangers
you're ending these
all our other parts there weren't so much of cliffhangers
it's probably because I don't know what to expect
for this one
this one so far has been really insane.
So I do have to say,
it continues being dumb insane
for the next almost decade of war for the Soviets.
Yeah.
It doesn't get good.
I don't expect it to get good.
Whenever I sit at this table,
I don't expect anything good.
I mean, that's why I had an,
every like 10 episodes, I make sure I schedule one
that's actually a happy story.
I think that's why we're friends.
Yeah.
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That's actually where I got the lead for the mock bus shoes.
Really?
Yeah.
I knew that every picture I found of
Spetsnaz operators who were wearing tennis shoes,
I always thought that was weird. But also
none of the book sources I found
noticed that. I always assumed that, as you said, was a
status symbol, as you said.
Right. I kind of assumed
that too because I always assumed
they're just Adidas. Yeah, I didn't know that they were their own brand and even made in moscow even the
story behind the mock buzz is equally equal parts funny because like during the olympics in moscow
um they made a rule where if western companies were going to sell things and this is you know
even back in the 80s uh late 70s and 80s, there was no private enterprise in the Soviet Union.
I mean, it's a communist country.
Right.
Ideally, they don't want any of that shit there.
So there was official sponsors of the Olympics.
The Soviets said, yeah, you guys can still come, but you have to make your stuff here.
And they're like, fuck it, whatever.
This contract's worth the money.
We'll bring all these heavy equipment and machinery over to the Soviet Union. The Soviets also knew, and that's why they
did that, that most people would make their money off the contracts and leave all the Western
equipment behind that at this point, the Soviet Union had been falling far behind technologically
than the West. This isn't the glory days of sending up Sputnik and splitting the atom.
This isn't the glory days of sending up Sputnik and splitting the atom.
Like under, uh,
landed Brezhnev,
the Soviet Union had stagnated really bad.
So like they couldn't build the stuff on their own.
Right.
So they knew when Pepsi and Adidas,
which,
uh,
the,
uh,
the gazelle,
I believe they were called was the official running shoe of the Olympics
would have to leave all their equipment.
It's a good animal.
Yeah.
If I was going to, my man, maybe if I wanted to run, I mean, I'm going to probably need their equipment behind. That's a good animal. Yeah. If I was going to,
I mean, maybe a cheetah.
If I wanted to run.
I'd probably need my shoes
as a cheetah or something.
But they knew that when they left,
they would just be able to put
Soviet workers in place
and immediately crank out
their own knockouts.
And that's exactly what they did.
It almost reminds me of,
I know it's probably far off,
but it reminds me of like
any type of CrossFit brand where they go, you could only wear this brand for here.
You can't wear anything you're sponsored by.
But Alico did the same.
When they started their thing, you could only wear Alico-branded shit.
Well, there's been professional athletes.
I think it happens a lot in football where they'll be like sponsored by under armor or whatever brand it is and um the nfl says you only
can wear their their official sponsors at um nfl games and events so you'll see people wearing
shirts with like just random bits of fucking like electrical tape over it yeah uh there was an
iranian weightlifter who uh i think he set the the world record for a
clean and jerk and he had a big fucking piece of duct tape talking about over his chest covering
up i think it was like nike or something this is a western brand i thought that was kind of funny
but yeah so that that's the story of the mockba and that is why like the discord is really funny
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Another cliffhanger.
Oh, yeah.