Loremen Podcast - Loremen Mid-August Holidays Bonus Bonanza!

Episode Date: August 8, 2024

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that's some smart shopping. Conditions apply. See in store or joefresh.com for details. It's James here for a mid-August holidays bonus bonanza. We're unleashing a load of Christmas Pig bonus content from our Patreon feed. So, oh, if you don't know what a Christmas Pig is, I'm sorry, I can't help you. I'd suggest you go back to the late December episodes and maybe you can piece it together from there. I mean, there really is a lot going on Christmas pig-wise. But before we get into it, as it is August, our thoughts turn to the Edinburgh Fringe Festival. And if you're visiting, please check out the various deputies who are performing, including but not limited to, Yuriko Katani, Amy Gledhill, Sean Burke, Chris Cantrill, Mary Elaine Robertson, Eleanor Morton.

And I mean, I could tell you the venues and the times and stuff, but you could easily do that by just going to the internet and searching their name and the word Edinburgh. Oh, if you aren't able to get to the Scottish Capitol, then I think NextUp are showing a bunch of stuff and that's at, just Google NextUp. It's like a stand-up comedy streaming platform and on there, I think one of Alistair's shows and a bunch of other stuff by deputies. And if you are there and you do see a comedian and you think they should be on Lawmen, just tell them. Tell them to get in touch with us. That's the easiest way.

So first up, we've got Sunil Patel, who is also available on the excellently produced Rural Concerns podcast. Now, the main feed episode was about Somerset pigs. I'm not sure what went on in this bit of bonus stuff, but it's a lot of fun. I thought you wanted to be shorter though, right James? Yeah, this is just a small segment for the Christmas pig. Oh, is that right? Pig stravaganza. How hollow and full of dinosaurs do you think the planet Earth is? And Nazis. Dinosaurs and Nazis.

Nazi dinosaurs. One day you'll be proved wrong and I'll be proved right. And I won't be laughing because it'll be a very sad day for everyone. As Velociraptor Hitler marches through the streets. Very difficult for a T-Rex to show its allegiance though, isn't it? Because of the little arms. That's the one good thing about T-Rex is that they can't really do a Nazi salute. Take it up with the Pope, Sunil.

Will the current one sort this out? I mean, he's dealing with quite a lot of baggage. Yeah. In terms of its mistakes in the past, there's a few things probably a little higher on the priorities list. Stripping some builders of their sainthoods. Some pig fanciers. Have you seen them all now? Star Trek.

All the Star Treks, every single one? No, I haven't seen the new ones. I haven't seen all the new ones. They're making more than there's time, isn't there? They do seem to be making them faster than it's possible to watch them. That's good for you. That means you've always got one to watch. It's like Neighbours, where they stopped that them. That's good for you. It's like Neighbours, where they stopped that now. They brought it back though.

There was Outcry. And then they, they stopped it again, didn't they? Have they stopped it again? I think Channel 5 knocked it on the head again. What? I thought it was on Amazon Prime. All right. I'll watch it.

It's back in business and badder than ever. Like how the Romans didn't have a number for zero. They have a number of pigs to mean years. And different things. And also a city, yes. Didn't know they didn't have a number for zero. What did they use then? I think they just did it.

They were just like, well, you can't count it because it doesn't exist. Am I chatting BS? The received wisdom, by which I mean what I think, is that's the reason why the Arabic mathematics is so advanced comparatively Arabic numerals, which I think are not originally Arabic. I think they come from India have a zero. And so, you know, the maths and geometry and things was in advance of what the Romans could do because without a zero, how you, how you do maths without a zero?

You joke and you can't, can't. Half of tens of zero, right? I mean, they do have, they do have tens. So there's a chance that like there's another number we could kick it up a notch. I didn't, I wasn't buying your hollow earth theory, but this. And then we'd, we'd finally be able to prove using special maths, future maths.

My gosh. Yeah. You think about it, you know, there's a lot we don't know. Yeah, future maths. My gosh. Yeah, you think about it. You know, there's a lot we don't know. Yeah, there is. There is. It's not all in mainstream media. This again.

No, I will not sign up to your Patreon. You're not going for the corkscrew penis. Yeah, well, ducks have that as well. Do they? You'd never look at a pig and a duck and think that they have the same penises. A lot of very aggressive penises in the animal kingdom. Stuff that really doesn't look like a lot of fun for anyone. Yeah, cats, not great.

I haven't looked at any of these. I've just had them described to me on podcasts. What's a cat's penis like then? Well, they've got like Velcro hooks to make. Is that from when they went into space? Is that what they do? Cats went into space and wanted to have sex. In Red Dwarf. And that from when they went into space? Is that what they do? They were cats went into space and wanted to have sex in developed. It.

I mean, there are jokes about this in red dwarf, but only in the novelizations. Uh, because obviously you can't talk about that on television. And yes, there were books of the red dwarf series. There were several of them. I bought them. I bought them. I bought the scripts. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Listen, you had primordial soup. The book of the scripts of red dwarf. I knew you were a nerd. Which of the two strands did you buy? Because famously the authors fell out and they both had the rights to write books and they both took Red Dwarf off in two different directions. I just didn't know that. I only bought the scripts because we did it at school.

We did it as a school play. It works. And I played, um, Holly, the deadpan computer played by, I forget the actor's name now. He was a comedian. Yes. Yeah. Fantastic comedian. Yeah.

Quite insulting that you would forget his name, to be honest. Sorry. Yeah, no, you're right. I was just- Could you just really extend that pause while Sunil tries to think of his name? I think it's more insulting that you haven't mentioned the female actor that played Holly for much, much longer. And I think it's even more insulting. I can't remember her name. Hattie Hayridge. Hattie Hayridge. Thank

you very much. If I pronounced her surname correctly. Is it Hattie or Hattie? Do you want me to do the Googling first? Someone's got to. I know the name of the director. I don't think there's someone involved in Red Dwarf I don't know the name of. It's Nick Maceau Mason from the Weekly Planet podcast. And the main episode featured a very odd bit of King Arthur lore and also a big Australian pig. And these are the bonus bits. Sorry, we were just talking before about alien big cats. And I must have said this before. One time we were stopped by the police and asked

if we'd seen a puma. What? Yeah, there was a puma loose. Were you the only people in the vicinity, or did the police go, he looks like he'd know? A whole crowd of people, they chose you like, you're the tall guy. He probably saw it. In the cords, in the baggy cords. Yes. Sir, we need to deputize you. Perhaps he's being held hostage by the puma. Is there a puma in the back of your car, sir? Did you pack this puma yourself, sir? Near us is the old winter lodgings of Chipperfield Circus. And now it's like a retirement home for ex-entertainment animals.

Wow. Wow. That's a real place. I thought that was just a thing you told the kids. There's a real farm they go to and they're happy there. What? They've got a lion, a tiger, and now a liger and probably a pending court case. Liger being the crossbreed of lion and tiger. And the animals just hang out playing mahjong and that's it.

They're happy. And, and bitching about the old days. None of my kittens ever come to visit. Were you able to furnish the police with any information, James? No, no, but they handily, they gave us a sort of a guide. They sort of put his arm out the car window and was like, it's about this tall. And if you see it, don't approach it. Yeah. Wow.

So there's always rumors that there's cats on the loose. I think the bus driver to school said he saw one in a field once. Well, I only saw one that was this tall. So that's obviously not the, not the pubia you're looking for. Wow. This guy could hunt from a seated position. I guess so. I guess that's sort of where the animals can't have been very far away.

It's got a very high powered bow and arrow with a laser sight on it. You'll probably get them nowadays. Perhaps he had some of the the Knights of the Roundtable pre-thump the game and then just lay them out in front of him. I was thinking maybe put him around on the chair to get the chair into different positions. He could do that also. Yes.

There's no limit of what you can't achieve with. When you're king. When you. They could do that also. Yes. There's no limit of what you can't achieve with- When you're king. When you're king and you have the round table. I was going to say the Merry Men, but that's, I'm sure some of them were merry. I was just about to say he was good at archery and then realized I was visualizing Disney's Robin Hood. That's Robin Hood.

Not King Arthur. It's a totally different Disney film. That is. Yes. I think, I don't know if he'd be sort of, well, I think what it is, is that's where he would hunt from all joking aside. Let's get real for a moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Come on guys. There is a stone that bears a hoof print from his horse. That's how real I'm getting basically. Okay. All right. He had a powerful enough horse to leave a hoof print in a stone. That was the launching pad for his horse. Yeah.

Was it poyoing off to go on a big horse? I think that was more like the that's the docking. It's like when you're charging a phone or an iPod back in the day. If you wanted to charge his horse, you would just click it into those horse shaped grooves. Like a kettle. Yeah. Like it just sort of clinks on. Is that what a cavalry charge is?

You plug your horse in. And you set it for lighting. The charge of the light brigade. That was just them waiting for it to be ready. And also he famously plugged, he unplugged the sword from the stone. So it makes sense that he would, that was a wonderful convenience. So I guess he would plug in all his equipment. And then he threw it in the water at the end because it was broken or that maybe that's what

broke it. You want to get that sword in some rice to all the moisture out. I don't know if that really works. It definitely doesn't work if it's cooked rice, I can tell you that. I did that rice thing with my phone once and ended with my phone having rice in the charging port and some starch, quite a lot of starch. Yeah. I wonder if there's a special type of rice. Maybe I use the wrong type of rice. TechXWorks has been like, I didn't use Basmati, did you? This chump's using American long grain. Well, that's not going to work.

What's he thinking? And I've just realized you meant, you mean like a guy who chops down wood rather than the person who makes woodcuts. I do the graphics for the podcast. So I'm always looking at woodcuts and I've just realized you mean this. So this isn't, this isn't even a sophisticated artist we're talking about. This is a guy with a piece of sharp metal that he uses to chop wood into. He's just got a big axe.

An unreliable source. He's sorry to be anti-peasant yet again. Get him out of here. It's a tiny, tiny sidebar and I really cannot elaborate on this. It's something I've always been meaning to research, but I've just heard King Arthur had a pet parrot. You cannot just lay that on the table and then say, move on. We'll get back to it one day. Well, will we? Okay. King Arthur had a pet parrot. Move on. Just accept it.

Just don't worry about it. Who's parrot is that? Who do you think? Who do you think? We are in Camelot. So who do you think that belongs to? Why do you think the roundtable has that tiny little extra seat with a little with a little bell made out of seed next to it? It's for the parrot. You idiot. That's right.

I don't know anything about Port Headland. I wish I could help you. Is that Queensland? Is that? It says Western Australia. Oh, it's Western Australia. OK, right. OK. So right now is it down? Yeah, that narrows it down to the Western bit. Oh, it's Western Australia. Okay, right. Okay. So, right. That narrows it down.

Yeah, that narrows it down to the Western bit. That's the biggest bit. So, is that the area that is just called Western Australia? It's not like, not got a nickname like Victoria or Queensland. Like Victoria, which is a state. Western Australia is also a state, but they haven't gone with, they haven't thought of anything for it. It is the biggest bit, but they just went, yeah, it's Western Australia.

That's fine. That's that'll do actually. I don't know if that's more or less vague than Northern territories. That seems anyway, I've reached the end of my Australian geographical knowledge. Next up is Bibi Miller from Erie, Essex. And we've got a whole load of pig stuff. Next up is Bibi Miller from Eerie Essex and we've got a whole load of pig stuff. Little aside here, the sign of the bear is the white bear, which is the emblem of friend of your podcast, Harry with the Wake.

Harry with the Wake? Oh, was it? Harry with the Wake. Nice one. Yeah, no more than that. But I just was like, oh, little flashback to your Halloween episode. Yes, that's right. Thank you very much. Wait a minute, just remembering Herriwood the Wake. Are you sure it's a bear? Is it not Herriwood in disguise as a bear?

It could be. Let's be fair. Is he trying to dress as a dog? Because I always think a bear is basically a person in a dog costume. I think I've discussed this before. I think you have, but I think you've nailed it on the head and it needs to be discussed more to be frank. Yes. Anyway, back to the inn. Oh, yeah, I bet it smelled well nice.

I bet it smelled well nice, but I mean, basically, he's been turned into bacon. Oh, man, the most dangerous of all the bacon. That's a no marble character. Yes, spider bacon does whatever a spider Bacon does, which is anyone's guess. Which is sizzle. Yeah, I guess. Spit fat at you.

Wowzers. Makes sense. I didn't know you shrunk in the wash on the way to the afterlife. I suppose when you get smoked though, they do, it does tend to get smaller, doesn't it? Oh, that would kind of be a bit grim if he was haunting the afterlife in his bacon form. In the format of bacon, yeah. I imagine him like this, this is a podcast you can't see me for the listeners, stroking my chin.

But not like a Jimmy Hill, Jenny Reckon way. Like, oh yeah, so Ghost Pigs was it? Yes, I well believe you. No, Cheney Recon way. Like, Oh yeah, so ghost pigs was it? Yes, I well believe you. No, my, my chin just happens to be itchy. No, a proper sort of tapping. Hitting over the nose and the mouth. I wonder about it. Ghost or vanishing pigs?

Tell me about their spots. And proves that, proves unlike Alistair who came on our show and proved he hadn't listened to Eerie Essex. I listened to Lawman. Alistair. Did he not even know it was about Essex? He doesn't even listen to yours. He doesn't even listen to this to be honest.

No he didn't. He doesn't even listen to your episode talking about Alistair behind his back. But he won't listen, so it doesn't matter. Whee! And everyone you've ever met. I think there's one where a guy does something on a Sunday and Jesus kills him and anyone who's ever known him, his entire family. I think there's someone who's melted as well. It's, you know, it's not worth the risk. Well, you've got to go home for Christmas. If it falls on a Monday.

Walking home for Christmas. Trotting home for Christmas pig. And the fact that it got up out of its, whatever it was dead to literally come up to him and go, nah. I suppose probably some of those messy bits that I'm imagining would be in the sort of necky bit might make a tutting sound. All his entrails. Yeah. of necky bit might make a tutting sound. All his entrails.

Yeah. But I mean, no, a head full horse, they're very disapproving, aren't they? They are. I also looked up a couple of pig superstitions in Wales. Go on. Can they look up? They can see the wind. Oh, cool.

I don't know how you'd find that out. I think that's a sailor tradition as well, isn't it? That they can see the wind. Oh, cool. I don't know how you'd find that out. I think that's a sailor tradition as well, isn't it? That they can see the wind and that's one of the reasons they're unlucky on a boat. Everything's unlucky on a boat to a sailor. Oink once for wind. For a salwester. Oh, was that an unintentional pun? Oh, yes, it was. No, I mean, no, it wasn't.

It was fully intentional. I don't think unintentional puns are the best. Devils were fond of assuming the form of or entering pigs. Whoa now. Whoa whoa whoa. This is a family Christmas picture. Oh sorry I did before this say that there was nothing risque and I've gone and like gone against my word now sorry.

And then a really random little one. Pigs littered in February could not be reared. Hmm? Too cold? Oh, I assume it's too cold, isn't it? How long is a pig's gestation? I'll just go to my saved Google searches. Because I always think with these sort of things, it was about 115 days, three weeks, three months, three weeks, three days.

Oh. So that would be Halloween babies, I guess. Ah, but it wasn't Christmas, remember? I got a lot. Oh, February, yeah. Yeah, so that would be Halloween babies, I guess. Ah, but it wasn't Christmas remember I got that. Oh, February. Yeah. Yeah. So apparently pigs. They'll be Halloween piglets. It's that devil. Well they do like entering pigs. So. Exactly. Okay, fair play. I don't want my radishes mixed up with my kiwis. They've got a different explanation of why it takes place, which is very different to the other ones.

So not a book thrust down the throat or Norse tradition. This is apparently a quirk that used to happen. So in 1343, there was a man called John Hammond, who was a grocer, and he was also the city's Lord Mayor and the butchers in the parish of St. Nicholas and the shambles had got themselves into a bit of a bother. And they had annoyed the monks at Greyfriars Monastery because they used to just dump the awful and bits they didn't want on the public highway, which was, you know, grim. Yes, quite frankly.

And the Friars quite understandably were unimpressed, shall we say. That you should say. So, yeah. And so the monks decided they had enough and they made an official complaint to the city authorities and they granted butchers a small parcel of land next to the Fleet River so they could clean the end trails and then they could dispose of the clean entrails in a ditch. Which still sounds grim, but less grim than before, but they'd have to pay for

this and apparently the butchers guild still pay this to this day, even though they don't go, you know, I think butchery has come a long way since 1343. They don't take the bits down the river, but they still pay for that parcel of land. Looking at their design on this board, it has and hasn't, frankly. That was John Hammond. I don't think the John Hammond. Not John Hammond who went on to start Jurassic Park. Well, I assume so. I mean, it's one short leap from a boar's head to messing with life. Yes, the creation of life.

Life finds a way. Yeah, exactly. And looking at this boar's head, it looks like they spent so much time thinking about whether they could when they should have stopped and thought whether they should. So there's a lot of animals there. I mean, did you hear the story recently about a horse and a pig that were in a relationship? What? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We're keeping this clean. Yeah, they were in a stable relationship. Thank goodness. In a way.

Yeah. Lovely stuff. Right then, Are you ready for my judgment? Yes. I mean, I've enjoyed this collaboration. Lovely. Thank you very much. Well, you'll see why I slipped that in. I think one of my things is puns. Nice. Pig puns. Okay then. Well, let's go then. Hit me. Hit me with your cats categories. Well, pig puns. You got opening with pig puns? I'm opening with pig puns because I opened with a pig pun. So...

Yeah, there was many. I can't fault them really. The stable relationship, I must admit, was not particularly piggy because they famously live in pens. True. It was a bad shout on my part there. But I think you more than made up for it with all the other ones. So I'm going to go for a, I thought the four was my, my, it is a four, but I was saying if I could make that a pig pun, but I can't ironically, you've got none

because this little piggy went to market. This little piggy stayed at home. This little piggy had a roast beef. This little piggy had none. That's the four doing it on the little piggy sliding scale. No, that is a good sliding scale. The P scale. A pig whistle.

Mm-hmm. I think sheer number of animals is my next category. Oh, well, yeah, then that's wee, wee, wee all the way home, which is five, if you don't know the rhyme. I know the wee, wee, piggy scale. It's a good scale. That brings us to the classic cats. Supernatural.

Supernatural. There were spectral pigs. There was a bunch of ghost slash vanishing pig detectives and I like that a lot. I mean that on its own. I don't know if it'll make the edit because I might keep it as an idea to spin off into my own TV series of ghost or YouTube slash vanishing pig detectives. I see that on Netflix. I'll be livid. Cancelled after two seasons. What else was there though? There was, oh, there's the ghost of the spider.

The ghost of the spider who shrunk. Yes. Miniaturized. A miniaturized ghost. Supernatural doesn't have to mean ghosts. I mean, animals sort of like a headless, a headless horse. Oh, a judgy headless horse. Yes.

I was thinking it was going to be three, but yeah, those judgmental animals. Pushed up to a four. Yes. Tutting dog. Disapproving pig. Strong four. Try and think what your other classic categories are. Names?

Naming, yes. Naming. Okay. I didn't score good on that. No, because you got Spider. Got Spider. Got JWD. JWD. JWD. JWD.

John Hammond of the Jurassic Park Institute. John Hammond. Oh, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, because there was Wink into Word. Wink into Word. I feel like we've actually scored Wink into Word before. Is there a rule that if it's been scored on another episode, you can't score on a subsequent episode? If it's Wink in the Word, I think you do have the ability to reuse it because it's a lovely, lovely name.

It really is. Oh, and of course the name of my spinoff TV show, Ghost Slash Furnishing Pig Detectives. Got to be a five. It's got to be a five. Yes, I have given you like an amazing idea for a show there that you're going to leave us all and speak your fame and fortune. Yes. Can we be pitching that around all the streaming services? Disney plus a pig.

And then finally we've got Danny Robbins. And I think if you're listening to an extensively paranormal podcast, you know who Danny Robbins is. If you don't, well, you're in for a treat. Do check out his uncanny podcasts, add some of the other podcasts he's done, TV programs, live shows. He is all over it. I made some saffron brought to me traditional Swedish saffron because Rachel, my partner said I thought she was asking me to make it for her for Christmas. And it's so hard. The

recipe I've got is really vague. So I had an incredibly stressful time. And then I finally I made, I made you that saffron bread. And she said, Oh, no, I just thought you wanted something to do. Like she didn't like it. She is sweet. No, no, we just, someone gave us a book of vegan Swedish Christmas cooking, which is hard because obviously a lot of it is not vegan. So we have a book of the vegan versions of it. Okay. But she just thought I looked like I was at a loose end.

She was like, no, it's too saffrony. I don't really like it. So I've just finished the last of the saffron bread that I made for myself. Uh huh. Well, I'm off to Sweden for my Christmas and I'll be eating lots of that. I'm sure the real thing is better than what I made. I also enjoyed the inclusion of the word bezel. It's a word that I'd learned in my late teens and it's stuck with me ever since. And I got a fancy watch. What does bezel mean?

I got a watch that had a rotating bezel. It was an animal watch. It was like nineties. It was all the rage. It's not like the opposite of M bezel. You know, you're giving money back. Bezel and Febezel are both terms for economic naughtiness. Okay. Bezel, M bezel, bezel and Febezel. I think those are all real things. Isn't it bevels on your watch? Oh, no. Are you getting your bevel and your bezel confused? I think I am.

James, James, James, James. Oh. This is, I need a time machine. I need to go back to the eight nineties and correct myself. You've been sounding like a fool while talking to watchsmiths. I don't have a third category for you. So I'll just do a couple more tiny Christmas quiz, pig quiz. They quiz. These ones are very easy. I gave you the hard one first. The first of my new questions come from William Henderson's Folklore of the Northern Counties, 1879. What

is unlucky if it crosses the path in front of a wedding? The ex-wife of one of the people? Weirdly, he does say the mother-in-law apparently is unlucky at a wedding. That's not the answer I'm looking for. But apparently having your mother-in-law or your soon-to- the mother-in-law apparently is unlucky at a wedding. That's not the answer I'm looking for. Apparently having your mother-in-law or your soon to be mother-in-law at your wedding is unlucky, which seems like a real impracticality. Like she needs to be there. There's likely to be two. I mean, a black cat feels too obvious. If you want a clue, remember what time of the year it is.

Jesus. No. Who else? Which animal is most strongly associated with Christmas in your mind, James? Oh, a Christmas pig? Yes, a pig. It is unlucky for a pig to cross the path of a wedding party. Hence, he says the old adage, the swines run through it, which is such a well-known phrase.

If you Google it, this book comes up. I guess a pig would ruin a wedding because they're like really dirty and smelly. Yeah. I feel like that should be a saying like, like a pig at a wedding, you know. Like a pig at a wedding? Yeah. Yeah, that's gone down like a pig at a wedding. Final question. What, according to fishermen on Holy Island, is unlucky to say while at sea? What word?

I love Holy Island. I've been to Holy Island many times. I've stayed the night on Holy Island. Is there, is there a key word you didn't say while crossing? It was voluntary. I read a really good detective story set on Holy Island recently as well. There's a cracking book by L.J. Ross called Holy Island, a detective story set there, which takes you into the sources of kind of satanic, strange cult murders. What do fishermen say on Holy Island? It's bad luck if you say it out loud on the boat. Yes.

And it must, is it pig related? I mean, it is the word pig. So in a sense it is pig related. The word pig or the word priest. Listeners might remember the Shetland episode with Mary Lane Robertson where they have essentially the same taboo around naming a pig or a priest. I worked at the cinema when Babe 2, Pig in the City was out. So I got to see quite bits of that quite a lot and it, whoa, that's a real ride.

I've never seen Babe 2, Pig in the City. It's worth it, but it's very odd. It is a very peculiar film. Is it the difficult second album? Yeah, it's like the first 10 minutes of Stone Rose's Second Coming. The whole film is like a weird, odd soundscape. Did babes send a long time in the studio working on lots of different fell out with them. What's his name?

James Cromwell, very badly, very acrimoniously would not work with them. James Cromwell is a vegan. I think, I think I already showed him. I think you went veggie while making that film because of babe. It would, it would. I mean, if you had to look at babe every morning, you, you wouldn't be contemplating I think you went veggie while making that film. Because of babe. It would. It would.

I mean, if you had to look at babe every morning, you wouldn't be contemplating. Pop your bacon sandwich down. Yeah. So that's that. Now we are looking around for some pig law for this year's Christmas pig. It comes around quicker every year, doesn't it? So if you have some, please send it into contact at lawmenpodcast.com. And if you want to experience more bonus material like that, then join us at patreon.com forward slash

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