Loremen Podcast - Loremen Minisode - Disraeli's Ghost

Episode Date: January 26, 2023

Yes, it is a minisode! It's advertising a livestream on 8.30 pm GMT, Monday 30th January 2023 (2023). Find the Live Lorebois here: https://www.youtube.com/loremenpodcast  BUT do keep listening, for a super sneak peek of an upcoming guest. Hear how the Loremen handle an unexpected sausage. Plus, enjoy the riffs and tip top bants about Victorian politicians!

Hello there, Alistair. Greetings, James. Are you ready for a minisode? I think I am. Yeah. I am now. I am now. Good.

Good. This minisode is on the subject of Huwenden Manor. Of Huwenden what-a? Huwenden what now? What? Huwenden Manor. Huwenden Manor. Mm.

Huwenden Manor. Hughenden Manor. Hughenden Manor. You might have not heard of it because it was a secret WW2 map-making base with the codename Hillside. I mean, that's less vague than the actual name. I like the way the name is like if someone says, The Nazivate or the Hughenden Manor with the secret maps, you would be like, Hughenden Manor? No, no, don't know anything about that. What's up?

What accent is that? Undercover Nazi spies say what? Undercover Nazi spies say Vass? Vass? No, this Huyenden Manor is haunted by Disraeli.

Benjamin Disraeli. Benjamin Disraeli? Yeah. Multiple Prime Minister of the past. He was Prime Minister more than once. Benjamin Disraeli. Benjamin Disraeli? Yeah. Multiple Prime Minister of the past. He was Prime Minister more than once. He was Prime Minister a couple of times, yeah. Not simultaneously. No one could do that.

Not in a row, either. There were gaps. Well, I think if someone did it twice in a row, we don't count that as twice. We count that as once, don't we? Okay. It's only when there's a gap, like with him or Churchill. Yeah, that's true.

Or probably Gladstone, but I didn't really look hard enough into it. Gladstone was his arch nemesis. That comes into play later on in this minisode. Yeah, so Hughenden House was bought by Disraeli and refashioned from quite a plain house to

the sort of late Victorian Gothic or mid-Victorian Gothic that it is now. Oh, fun fact, just inside the door is the actual side of a carriage, which in the text that I'm taking this from by a friend of the show, Betty Puttick, it's described as the side of Lord Beaconsfield coach with a description of Lady Beaconsfield's devotion and heroism. Now that devotion and heroism by Lady Beaconsfield manifests itself thusly. So this was the side of a coach and Disraeli, aka Lord Beaconsfield, was going to the Houses of Parliament to give a speech. And as he was jumping out the coach his wife got a

hand trapped in the carriage door basically slammed in the door. And she concealed her injury so she wouldn't upset him before his speech. And she held it together until he'd gone in and then fainted. Oh, so she was like,

I'm going to win this speech! He was weirdly intense, but thank you. Yeah, I'm just going to leave my hand here in the door. No, I'm just going to lean against the... I'm going to get out of the parliament. Wow. Oh, well, I mean, fair play to Lady Beaconsfield. Mary Anne.

The British aristocracy are known for one thing, and that's keeping it inside and keeping up appearances. So fair play to her for showing that. Wow. A quote from her, from Mary-Anne, is that Benjamin... Ow, my hand! My hand's fine! What are you on about?

Sorry, I interrupted the quote. Fair shout. You could probably quote her on that, and she ain't going to come back. She probably did say that, yeah. One thing she definitely did say, though, was that disraeli married me for my money but if he had the chance again he would marry me for love which i don't think that sounds as good as it's supposed to yeah yeah um some fun facts about disraeli he was a very good friend of Queen Victoria. Ah, hence why Gladstone was his arch nemesis.

Because Gladstone and Victoria, they were kind of like sparring partners. They had a lot of antagonism there, I think. Oh, really? I think so, yeah. Were they like a bit of a... Hmm, hmm. Are they sort of a master splinter shredder vibe? And Queen Victoria is shredder in this analogy.

Yeah, I think so. I would say so, yes. I've got a couple of little Gladstone facts. Do you know any of his nicknames? Willie Glad's, was that one of them? Willie Glad's is not listed, unfortunately. Do they call him like Old Stony Man? Nearly.

Big Stones. G-O-M, he was nicknamed. The Grand old man. To his friends, to his enemies. Hello, Amy. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Sorry, we're just recording a pre-record. I'm sorry.

Thanks for being early. No, no, no. I say include this in the minisode because then we're getting double value. Suddenly, due to really poor timekeeping on Amy's part, Amy Gledhill has appeared in the chat with no context for what's happening. Ten minutes early is on time. Is it? Yes.

Not in my book. Amy's not saying anything. No, not in mine. You're not getting any content out of me. This is not clippable. Not going to say anything. I'm so sorry. That's what I'll say.

I'm so sorry. I thought I'll click the link to see if anyone would be there. And I didn't expect you to be in full swing. We're just chatting Gladstone. Talking about William Gladstone and Queen Victoria, who's kind of like Shredder from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, if you need context for who Queen Victoria was.

That's cool. And if you need context for who Shredder from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is, Queen Victoria vibes. Yes, pretty much Queen Victoria. But yeah, so Gladstone nicknames. I'm just rounding off with some Gladstone nicknames. Just round it off, James. G-O-M, the Grand Old Man, but to his enemies, God's Only Mistake.

Okay. That's a real burn. Wow, really taking a little jibe at God as well, at the same time. You hate Gladstone so much, getting an elbow in on God. And the other nickname, The People's William. Oh, yeah, The People's Willie. Yeah. Why was I reading about this earlier?

Because I read that nickname, and I thought I would call him The People's Willie. And that happened earlier. Why was I looking up Gladstone? I can't remember. Why not? But I read that nickname and I immediately thought the People's Willie. Do you think you could be the People's Jimmy, James?

I reckon I could. Wait a minute, is that a rude thing? It also means Willie. Where does it mean Willie? North-east of England. As in... The Jimmy? Yeah, as in kick him in the Jimmy.

What do you think kick him in the Jimmy means? I thought that was a jibe directed squarely at me. Oh, wow. Well, i'm reeling from that i know i've gone far too long speaking to northeast people who are laughing at me yeah yeah for being called james right well anyway james was the funny part of your name. Yeah. Anyway, so Disraeli was friend of Queen Victoria. And when he was dying, she said she wanted to visit him. And he joked that better not let it because she'd only have a message for Albert. Oh, yeah. Because basically he was joking about her dead husband and the fact that he was dying.

And the only reason that Queen Victoria wanted to meet him was so he could take a message about her dead husband and the fact that he was dying, and the only reason that Queen Victoria wanted to meet him was so he could take a message to her dead husband. He sounds like a funny guy. Absolutely hilarious. What kind of message could you reasonably want to pass on? It's not like it can be like, where did you leave the remote control? Because you can't reply.

So it would just have to be like one of those holiday postcards where it's like, everything fine. Or like me me don't look up what your name means prince albert just warning prince albert like your nickname your name has continued not to be a euphemism for anything congrats don't wonder why people giggle when you introduce yourself signed queen victoria brackets shredder ghost, Disraeli's ghost Was seen by a member of the Ghost Club From Peter Underwood's This Haunted Isle An account says that

He was seen standing in his study And then just vanished No gag, he didn't do a gag before vanishing He just vanished He didn't do a bit Okay His perfume is smelled in the politician's room which is where his official robes are kept which is probably why it smells of him and that includes the robe he wore as

chancellor of the ex-chequer which had been handed down all the way back to william pitt so from 1782 to 1852 when he was supposed to hand it on to Gladstone, he just refused to because he disliked Gladstone that much. He kept the robe. He kept the stinky old robe. Yes. Just as a tiny little aside for this minisode, that was when he was Chancellor of the Exchequer

for a part of the government that was known as the Who Who Ministry. Looking after owls? No, it was full of such unknowns that when known as the who who ministry looking after owls no it was full of such unknowns that when when they were like sworn into parliament by name in turn the uh a former prime minister shouted out who who at every point right every point politicians haven't got any better doing jokes since thursday's over all these jokes, Alistair, you might want to know how this is linked to the live stream that we're doing on Monday the 30th of Jan. I do.

2023 at 8.30pm GMT. Gumped. 2023, I missed one. It's tenuously linked. Is it? Yes. Mmm. What do you think?

What do you think we're going to talk about? A carriage? Nope. Do you think it's going to be something to do with the government or with Disraeli? Yes, I do. No, none of those things. Right, what's it about? The subject of Monday's live stream, the 30th of January, 2023.

2023. Thank you. At 8.30pm, GMT, is, do you remember I mentioned Chewenden Manor was renovated? Yeah, the subject of the live stream is the tv show changing rooms no not even that one of the carpenters that worked on that renovation has a very interesting story that happened to him on one of the chippies who knocked through the wall yes okay he has a separate and very interesting story. I had not got that guy

who you had not mentioned pegged for the spinoff. No, exactly. This is like when Frasier got a spinoff from Cheers. Nobody saw it coming, but it really worked. And I'd say,

actually, Alistair, the story I'm working from is almost as well written as one of these Frasiers of which you speak. Wow. Okay. Wow. Okay. Yeah.

So that's, that has been an elaborate, a very elaborate preview slash trailer. With unexpected Amy, who I assume had her mic on mute, which is why you couldn't hear her laughing at all our witticisms. I think, I think the mic,

I think there's something wrong with the mic. Just turn it on now yes there you go it's been off you haven't been able to hear all of that oh my god my stomach is sore i was like stop stop do that to the stomach but okay right end. Expect more of that hilarity, that Amy killing, Amy slaying James on the live stream on youtube.com forward slash lawmen podcast

at 8.30pm GMT Gumped on 30th of January 2023. I didn't listen to any of that. No, I didn't. Are you doing the sound of a cold wind, Amy? Yeah.

Is that appropriate or not? It's chilling, yeah. It is chilling. I was trying to cool James's brain down after all the information. It sounded like a real wind, though. Normally you can tell when it's someone breathing, but it actually sounds like the wind when you do it. Thank you.

That's my natural accent. I am nature. Oh, wow. We've got some free foley. I can do all different types of wind. I'm going to edit in sounds of hurricanes now, and people will think, how is she making those noises with them,

including the sounds of people and cars, car alarms going off how is she doing those sounds a full cnn news report anchor a news reporter getting blown away down the street oh al can you follow me with the camera let's get out of here r Ralph. It's James Stewart playing a news reporter. Yeah. It's an extremely wet day. Wet wind. Hello? And now what are you going to do?

What question are you going to edit in now? Sorry, I forgot my mic was on. That's why my stomach's hurting. In case you hadn't guessed, Amy is an upcoming guest, coming soon on the podcast. Imagine if we'd just got her in for that, and that was it. Just to say, wet wind into the mic. And those amazing hurricane noises.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you so much. Thank you.