Lovett or Leave It - General Mayhem

Episode Date: October 26, 2024

This episode of Lovett or Leave It will unlock after you call three friends or loved ones in swing states. Just go do it now, trust us. This week, Colorado Governor Jared Polis reminds you to get off the couch and get out the vote; Ego Dwodim finds out if Father really does know best. Barry Sonnenfeld lifts the veil on Hollywood to reveal a gigantic mechanical spider. And we close out the show by traveling into the unknown… and we’re fine with that! For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email [e-mail] and include the name of the podcast.

Hello Los Angeles! Welcome! Do you love it or leave it the Dodgers are facing the Yankees in the World Series so whether your uncle is a sports fan or a politics fan during the first week of November he will have some reason to set a car on fire. Tonight on the show, Colorado Governor Jared Polis is here as we near the end of this schlong road to the election. SNL's Ego Wodim is here to call herself daddy. And director Barry Sonnenfeld saddles up for a ride into the wild, wild west. Then we wrap it all up by staring into the bottomless black pit of the unknown and in a fun way. But first, let's get into it.

What a week! On Tuesday, Tim Walz took aim at the richest, cringiest man in the world during a rally in Wisconsin. But look, I'm not going to waste all the time I'm in. I'm going to talk about his running mate. His running mate, Elon Musk. Elon's on that stage, jumping around, skipping like a dipshit on these things. So satisfying.

Uh, uh, you know, like, when you hear a teacher curse, it works every time. Apeave Musk said in response to Walls on Tuesday night, you're gonna lose. We actually have a clip of it. You're gonna lose. You stink. You're gonna win. You stink.

You're gonna win. Yeah. Oh! Elon is, first of all, it's funny. So, yeah, in that movie, one of the heroes hurts a child. That's okay, then. It was a different time, both when it was

and when it was about. Speaking of losing yourself, Eminem endorsed Kamala Harris at a rally in Detroit on Tuesday. People shouldn't be afraid to express their opinions. And I don't think anyone once in America were people that worried about retribution or what people will do if you make your opinion known. I think Vice President Harris supports a future for this country where these freedoms and many others will be protected and upheld.

These are the stakes. Eminem's words now versus Eminem's lyrics in the 2000s. Barack Obama then took the stage after Eminem's introduction and the man was hyped. My palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy. Bombing on my sweater already, mom's spaghetti. I'm nervous but on the surface I look calm and ready to drop bombs but I keep bomb forgetting. Yeah!

Dad, you're being crazy. He was into it too. He did a little humble kind of, I'm being silly, but he was into it. He's getting encouraged, getting cheered. Anyway, it was a better week for white rap as Kamala also secured the endorsement of insane clown posse. The insane clown posse and insane posse of clowns. The endorsement came after Kamala proposed broadband access to the dark carnival. I don't know who that's for. Said Violet J in an interview to The Daily Show,

I want her to win because she's a Democrat and I love my mom. Later adding, my mom said Democrats are saying less taxes on the poor, more taxes on the rich. As I'm often saying about the mother of insane clown posse's Violent J, that woman raised her son right. Violent J also said he supports women's rights, explaining they have the right to be the fucking shit

and had this to say about environmental conservation. We think we're the superior animal on this planet, right? Let me tell you what the superior animal is, a whale. It's the biggest. Take a good long look. That's what a man with perfect politics sounds like. If I hear one person making fun of him, I will lose it. People made fun of my posse when they asked,

fucking magnets, how do they work? And you know what? It's a great question. Because you could take a whole course in electromagnetism in college, and at the end of it, you will still not know how magnets work. One person here knows how magnets work. And by the way, there is magic everywhere in this bitch.

In less exciting and less important endorsement news, 23 Nobel Prize-winning economists, more than half of the living American recipients, signed on to a letter that called Harris' economic agenda vastly superior to Trump's, or as Magarold reported it, the Jews are at it again. The letter is also signed by Eminem, who wasn't asked to participate but got a little excited. On Wednesday, Kamala sat down with Anderson Cooper for CNN Town Hall, where she got right to the point. You've quoted General Milley calling Donald Trump a fascist. You yourself have not used that word to describe him.

Let me ask you tonight, do you think Donald Trump is a fascist? Yes, I do. Yes, I do. And I also believe that the people who know him best on this subject should be trusted. Yes, we just have to persuade people to listen to Trump's top military advisors, his White House staff, dozens of Republicans, women who have been assaulted by him, anyone who's ever had a casual exchange with him over the past two decades, your own eyes, his own words, every journalist who has interviewed him, every historian and expert on fascism, and the insane clown posse.

Good company. In other news, Kamala will be reportedly delivering a closing argument next Tuesday from the ellipse, the same place Donald Trump spoke on January 6th, 2021, whipping his supporters into a frenzy that became the insurrection. And it says here that Harris's closing message is, I will protect abortion rights,

now let's go storm the Capitol. Kamala, no. No. No, maybe it's something about that space, like that town in New Hampshire from It. Speaking of election interference, on Wednesday, The Washington Post reported that RFK Junior's former running mate

and current cook Nicole Shanahan attempted to pay a journalist $500,000 to whistle blow on her political opponents. On the bright side, someone tried to pay a journalist. The Justice Department warned Elon Musk's America PAC that its promise to pay out $1 million prizes to people who register to vote in swing states may violate federal election law, which is weird because all the cowed, exhausted lawyers on Musk's payroll thought it was an awesome idea. Anyway, please let him do this, DOJ. It's better for the nation if we let him spend every red cent.

He's much less dangerous as a deadbeat dad of 11 than a guy who can pay to build a base on the moon. Speaking of the base, here's Tucker Carlson on Wednesday appealing to Trump's biggest fans in a way that feels honestly refreshing. There has to be a point at which dad comes home. Dad comes home. And he's pissed. Dad is pissed.

Someone call Tim Walz, the weirdo meter could blow. Will probably be okay though, as long as this doesn't get 50 times weirder. And when dad gets home, you know what he says? You've been a bad girl. You've been a bad little girl and you're getting a vigorous spanking right now. If everyone here at the theater looks under your chairs, you'll find your complimentary gift bag of a mini DeSani bottle and cyanide capsule. There's also a little card in there if you'd like to leave a note.

And you don't even have to ask. He keeps going. And no, it's not going to hurt me more than it hurts you. No, it's not. I'm not gonna lie. This is gonna hurt you a lot more than it hurts me. And you earned this. You're getting a vigorous spanking because you've been a bad girl. We gotta start kink shaming again. I'm sorry, but these people are getting horny for massive deportations before fucking each other's wives on cruise ships, and honestly, I think the Bible

had some good points we ought to circle back to. Maybe if we win, we do Project 2025. I'm just... I'm just... I'm seeing that. I'm just spitballing. We've got to do something. What an absolute freak. Who is that for by the way? It's a job about sending out social security checks and

making sure the the the roads are paved and so forth. Daddy's been a bad girl? What? That's not even how the saying would go. Well, it's not for me. I passed the fucking test. Tuck Carlson, he's been rich his whole life. He's been rich for as long as he's been a person. He has no idea what normal people go through. He didn't have a normal childhood of any kind, but he has a fantasy of some kind of 50s notion

of what happens when dad comes home. But think about what that represents, right? It represents an idea that, that first of all, mom is not a real authority figure and dad is a terrifying menace, right? Like those are the two, those are the twin. That's like the good version of this fantasy, right? In his mind, it's like, wow, remember how great things used to be when people didn't have to listen to their mother.

Cause mom is, is just a kind of a servant of the father, but when dad got home, he was a gruff, violent menace. That's what their pitch is here. I'm at the end, people. I'm losing it. How many more of these are we gonna do till we find out what happened? Okay.

Between two and 10. On Friday, Trump will travel to Austin, Texas for an interview with Joe Rogan in a bid to appeal to young male voters ahead of the election. No word on whether he will also attempt to gain support from young men who didn't like Todd Phillips' Joker. Reuters says Kamala could also sit down

with Rogan, which the Harris campaign has yet to confirm or deny. Kamala, come on lowly. We can talk ancient aliens, creatine, whatever you want. Speaking of ancient aliens, a federal judge ruled that Rudy Giuliani must turn over that Rudy Giuliani must turn over all of his valuable possessions in addition to his Manhattan penthouse to the Georgia election workers he defamed during Stop the Steal. This is real. It was weird watching him cry as he handed Playboys from 1969 to the election workers one by one. I don't believe in saging a space to clear it of evil, but it would be hard to fall asleep

in that apartment in the first night, Mostly because a drunk Rudy Giuliani is scratching at the door like a feral cat, but also... It's creepy. After surrendering his apartment, Giuliani has temporarily moved into the Ritz Carlton. I'm sorry, into Rick's carton. That's a refrigerator box in the garage of a man named Rick. The former mayor of New York and erstwhile Trump attorney owes vote counters Ruby Freeman and Shea Moss $150 million for smearing them during Trump's attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election.

Other luxury items Giuliani must fork over include a signed Joe DiMaggio jersey, several watches given to him by European presidents after September 11th, and a 1980 Mercedes once owned by actress Lauren Bacall. In good news, Lauren Bacall was released from the trunk unharmed. Nah, she died in 2014. Of suffocation in the trunk of Rudy Giuliani's car! But the family was glad to finally get the bones back. A report in the Atlantic this week contained somehow new and shocking examples of Trump being awful and menacing.

For example, Trump was reportedly enraged by the funeral bill for a 20-year-old army private who was murdered by a fellow soldier after he invited her family to the White House and offered to cover the costs. Said Trump, sorry you don't want your daughter to be interred on a golf course your majesty. That was a tough one. During a meeting in the Oval Office Trump reportedly raged it doesn't cost 60,000 bucks to bury a fucking Mexican. Trump then turned, yep, Trump then turned to his Chief of Staff Mark Meadows and said don't pay it. And sure the earth should have cracked open and swallowed him whole, should have just sucked him

down like a pneumatic mail tube, but it didn't and now we have to get Eminem involved. Joe Balzer reportedly said in a private White House conversation, I need the kind of generals that Hitler had, people who were totally loyal to him that follow orders. Replied the door dash delivery driver, right, I still have to get a picture of the bag being delivered to you though. Zone of interest of course, an important text on the dangers of a hybrid work from home policy. Trump's former chief of staff, John Kelly,

told the Atlantic that when Trump once asked him, why can't you be like the German generals, he replied, do you mean Bismarck's generals? Kelly continued, I mean, I know he didn't know who Bismarck was or about the Franco-Prussian war. Do you mean the Kaiser's generals? Surely you can't mean Hitler's generals. And Trump responded, yeah, yeah, Hitler's generals.

Hey, I have a question. What the fuck are we doing here? Hitler's generals over on Fox and Friends. Brian Kilmeade attempted to justify Trump's Hitler admiration. And I could absolutely see him going out, you know what, it would be great to have German generals that actually do what we asked them to do, knowing that's a third, maybe not fully being cognizant of the third rail of German generals who are Nazis or whatever. That famously touchy subject. I'm sorry, your defense of Trump is he might not be familiar with the negative connotations

associated with Hitler's generals. That's the defense. Also, not the most important point, but it is revealing Hitler's generals famously tried to kill him several times before losing the war so badly that the French patrolled the streets until 2014. I do think the reason that matters is because what Trump is asking for here is in some ways even worse than reality because he is asking for the fantasy of Hitler's Germany that exists only in his own mind. Here's how he Kurtz weighing in. Trump may have just been letting off steam about the loyalty he wanted from his generals

compared to what he thought about Hitler's generals. Who among us, after a stressful day, has an unwound by kicking off your shoes, singing into a bubble bath, and wondering why the American military isn't more like the Wehrmacht? John Kelly also told the New York Times this week that Trump meant the definition of a fascist, and Trump's former defense secretary, Mark Esper, agreed. I'm not going to get into that type of labeling, if you will.

But you know, John Kelly did something, and he looked it up in a dictionary. And if you look it up, I think everybody should. Ask yourself, does he fall into those categories? And it's hard to say that he doesn't when you kind of look at those terms. But he certainly has those inclinations, and I think it's something we should be wary about.

Why do these people all suddenly sound like the Riddle of the Fucking Sphinx? When talking about Donald Trump? Why are we doing reverse psychology? It's like a reverse psychology best man's wedding speech calling out fascism. Webster's dictionary defines love as an intense feeling of deep affection. I'm not going to say that that's what Josh and Christine have, but it's hard to deny that it meets the definition I just read.

What are we doing here? New Hampshire Governor Chris Sununu was asked on CNN whether the explosive new revelations changed how he felt about Trump and his plans to vote for him, and he offered this. Look, we've heard a lot of extreme things about Donald Trump, from Donald Trump. It's kind of par for the course. It's really, unfortunately, with a guy like that, it's kind of baked into the vote. The question was, do you support this? And your answer is, you know, I think a lot of people dismiss what Trump says.

But the reason people dismiss what Trump says is because people like you go on television and justify supporting him anyway. This shit is baked into the vote because depraved people like you put on a chef's hat and an apron and bake it in. It's your recipe in your restaurant and I will not kiss the chef. LeBron James and his son, Brawny, made history during Tuesday's Laker versus Timberwolves game, becoming the first father and son duo

to play together in NBA history. Their next challenge, becoming the first father and son to talk on the phone for more than two minutes before handing the phone to mom. The U.S. Department of Transportation fined American Airlines $50 million for numerous serious violations against disabled passengers, including damage to wheelchairs and even physical injuries due to unsafe physical assistance by staff.

Never surrender, you fags, said Spirit Airlines CEO as he sprayed down a group of hogtied senior citizens who tried to board before their zone was called? If you don't want to be hogtied, you have to sign up for their credit card. Never surrender, you fags. This week, former Abercrombie and Fitch CEO Mike Jeffries was charged with sex trafficking, with authorities alleging Jeffries used a casting couch to coerce and sexually assault male models. But does this look like the face of a man who would do that? Speaking of sickening, at least 49 people across 10 states have fallen ill in an E. coli outbreak linked to McDonald's quarter pounders. McDonald's, I defended you. I trusted

you. And look what they did to my boy. Look at how they massacred my boy. Anyway, when Chipotle had their E. coli moment, there were no lines, and they sometimes just gave you your burrito for free to say thank you for showing up. It was a glorious time. Drive-through lines are about to be a breeze, baby, and I'm here for a good time, not a long time.

It really was true, I'd be like, oh my God, you just walk right into Chipotle away and you'd just get together and they'd just hand you the burrito and they'd say, that one's on us. Thank you for your bravery. While promoting her new erotic drama, Baby Girl, Nicole Kidman told The Sun she experienced burnout from too many fictional orgasms. And weirdly, all of them were on the set of Paddington. Los Angeles County prosecutor requested a resentencing for the Menendez brothers, which could lead to immediate parole after they're serving more than three decades in prison for the murder of their parents.

So my sympathies to single straight women in Los Angeles already hanging onto sanity by the thinnest of gossamer strands coming across Lyo Menendez's hinge profile. Yeah, if you're convicted of killing your parents, do you get the money anyway? I don't know. I don't think so. Where's that money go then? Interesting to think about. Speaking of women going through it, Kotex is giving away free stigma-fighting jeans with a clear pocket to show off your maxi-pad. Not to be outdone, Trojan will be releasing a pair of jeans that loudly make this noise

whenever they detect an erection. Yahoo! Put a binder in front of it? Doesn't matter. Everybody heard the noise. And finally, bear enthusiasts are grieving. After the death of grizzly number 399, one of the more beloved grizzlies in Grand Teton National Park,

the killer, RFK Jr., remains at large. Up next, it's Governor Jared Polis. Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more of Love It or Leave It coming up. And we're back. It's time to say Rocky Mountain hi. Okay. To my next guest, he puts the cool in Colorado.

All right. We just got it. Governor Jared Polis. We just got it. Governor Jared Pullis. Good to see you. Thanks for being here. Look at. Thank you. Thanks for having me. All right. Let's start. I want to start. All right. With, um, I think a sensitive subject for both of us. I was in Boulder, my hometown. Yeah. And you were not able to make Love It or Leave It. You couldn't do it. Good excuse, by the way.

Can I tell you? Your excuse was that you had to be a part of the parade that circled Boulder and the theater. No, no, no. My uncle's 90th birthday, Holocaust survivor, was in New York City, so yes. I mean, John Lovett, Holocaust survivor, 90-year-old. Was it on the actual day?

That was the day of his party. Yeah, we had it. Day of his party. Yeah. We all came in. He has some thoughts about Hitler, by the way. Yeah, I bet. Against.

Hated it. Hated it. He was on one of the Kindertransports and was 12 years old and was in Switzerland basically during the war without his parents, has lost his dad, his mom somehow made it through. But one of his great stories, married my dad's sister and have great kids and grandkids and everybody else.

Yeah. So he doesn't probably have to- The goodest Hitler generals didn't win. Yes, well thank you. They were not very particularly good and they did try to kill him. One of the interviews by one of these guys said that they had mentioned Rommel to Trump and Trump was not familiar with Rommel and like,

I don't understand how a straight American man can get from 40 to 70 without having gone through a rock. The desert fox. The desert fox phase. It really speaks to a real kind of emptiness and depravity of Donald Trump that he didn't go through that phase where he would say like, well, you know, they called him the desert fox. All right, we should move on. And tried to take down Hitler, of course.

Yes, he did. One of the many generals who tried to take out Hitler. Did you have any questions about Arnold Palmer's slong before Trump brought it up last week? As a topic that I never have thought about or want to think about. Yeah. I think that's like the,

isn't that the drink our kids have at restaurants, like lemonade and iced tea or something? Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. But I do think, I do think. There's a way, that's what my kids know it as, because like, you know, they're post-Arnold Palmer. I mean, that's, it's a drink, not a person. Right. So it's really confusing to kids who think it's a way. That's what my kids know it as. Cause like, you know, they're post post Arnold Palmer. I mean, that's, it's a drink, not a person. Right.

So it's really confusing to kids who think it's a drink. Right. I mean, I think like, you know, the Shirley Temple, Arnold Palmer, they drink trance. A drink too. Yeah. That's right. Of course. Of course it is. Not a lollipop. No, no. My feeling about Arnold Palmer is,

is you really want the 60 to 80% ice tea. You really don't want 50-50. But that's not important. It's actually foreign for me. I just go for unsweetened ice tea myself. So... Wow. Must...

I mean, what a... I'm hardcore. What a austere existence. It must be awful. How do you move through life like that? With a caffeine. Oh, right. All right, so I do want to ask you something serious,

which is you have been one of the local leaders who has been dealing with what happens when Donald Trump and JD Vance and the MAGA media propaganda network sets its sights on an area to try to turn it into a kind of horror story about immigration. And Donald Trump has started talking about Aurora as this terrible example of what's gone wrong in immigration that these the town is overrun and been taken over by by gangs.

And I just want you to talk about obviously that's false but what happens in a place like Aurora when a presidential candidate a former president makes that kind of accusation so Aurora is a awesome town it's Colorado's third largest city over 400,000 people now we have it's also an amazing city we have like little Vietnam, Korea town. Now, I have to say though, I drove through your LA Korea town on the way here. It kind of makes ours look a little wimpy,

but I'm proud of it for Colorado. Okay, thank you for saying that. I was like a little nervous for a second that I was gonna have to have a fight. We have four blocks. Oh, okay. We were driving for like 20 minutes, but actually that was only four blocks in LA, 20 minutes.

So. He came around, he got us. So seriously though. Hey, you know what? He got us. in LA, 20 minutes, so. He came around, he got us. So seriously though, yeah. He got us. Yeah. So look, seriously though, he talked about a Colorado that none of us who live in Aurora

or anywhere in Colorado recognize. I mean, the facts matter. People who live in Aurora love it. Great place to raise kids, raise a family, retire. Crime is down two years in a row in Aurora. It's down actually more than it's down in the States. It's down 25% in Aurora. And it's a great town. So like when he comes and talks about it, first of all, he gets in the airport,

the airport by the way, all around it, Aurora. If you've ever been to Denver International Airport, right around it, Aurora. That's Aurora. Yeah, there's that evil horse. Oh, that, yeah, I'm surprised that hasn't made it onto the right-wing circuit, that demon horse. You have an evil horse that killed the artist. It did, actually. That's actually true, as John knows. So the artist who made it died, it collapsed on the wall, he's making his sunset to finish a tragic story.

It is beautiful art. I like it. Some people hate it, some people don't hate it. I mean, it's hideous. It's art. It's art. Hey, what airport art do you like? I mean, this is airport art.

I don't know. I just think it would, I mean, just a field there would have been nice. So anyway, when Donald Trump came to Aurora, he just went to the airport, went over to a hotel, a fancy hotel, of course, said, Aurora, take it over, gangs, blah, blah, blah. And that actually hurts him in Colorado, because Coloradans know who is this guy coming to our town and attacking it, describing a town we don't even recognize.

He wasn't there to win Colorado. He was there to talk to other people about this vision in his head of this dark, scary, sinister America. And it's a shame that he picked on us, frankly, and we're gonna pick on him back. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Donald Trump flying in to Colorado to persuade people who don't live in Colorado of something false about Colorado is a pretty good small example of the larger kind of fraud that Donald Trump is perpetuating right now in his campaign. He is trying to rile up a bunch of people into believing that the cities are unlivable, that the country's being overrun. How do you, as somebody who is a governor,

which is a job that requires just delivering and actually kind of meeting people and being on the ground, how do you strike the balance between addressing people's genuine concerns around the border, around immigration, while also not giving in and not being afraid to say, hey, actually, you know what? Crime is going down. Actually, you know what? We don't need to be... We can address this issue without this kind of apocalyptic language.

So look, there's the facts and yes, crime is down, but that doesn't diminish the experience of victims of any crime. It's a terrible thing. If crime is down 90%, that 10% that experiences a burglary or an assault, that's a horrible thing. And we need to hold those perpetrators accountable and lock them away for a long time. When it comes to the border, I believe, and I was served in Congress for ten years, I believe and I know the Democrats want to solve it rather than talk about it. We want to secure the border.

We don't want to complain about a broken border. We actually want to solve it rather than talk about it. We want to secure the border. We don't want to complain about a broken border. We actually want to fix it. That's what Kamala Harris will do, and that's what Democrats in Congress will do. Hey, so does your baseball team have an advantage because you're so high up and the balls go further and their lungs are used to it? Over the white socks, maybe. I don't understand the reference. I thought we're both gay. Now that's stolen valor sort of a sort of a soft sports reference I meant. If you have

any if there's a Venn diagram has John Lovett fans and baseball fans they will get that reference I made. I don't know how big that group is but they will get it. Hi Jeff. Jeff and Toledo. You get it. Front row. We got a front row person. But, but seriously, do the balls go further up there? They do. Yeah. So, um, because of both, there was even a mini scandal about balls kept in a humidor a few years ago, if anybody remember. So humid balls. Yeah. Well, and then there's this saying in baseball, it always depends what mood they're in in Haiti, whether they wind them tight or not. But yeah, we had a humidor scandal in Colorado, what, five, six years ago. But yes, balls go further, it's a hitters ballpark.

Pitchers that do well elsewhere in the league fall apart when they come to Colorado. We've learned to live with this. That seems like a cool prom for you guys. Do you understand any of that, John? Yes, I would say, because you guys, your lungs are used to it. You guys have gotten the extra hemoglobin. for you guys. Do you understand any of that, John? Yes, I would say, because you guys, your lungs are used to it. You guys have gotten the extra hemoglobin. There you go. You got the biological part down.

Do you, are you a mathematician or something, are you? I did study math. I, I, well, I'm smarter than I seem. Um, sometimes, sometimes I'm dumber than I, I forgot my, I lost my train of thought. Do you care who wins between the Yankees and the Dodgers? You know, so Rockies are NL West, so. National League lust. National, yes, I am, that is awesome.

So yes, I'm gonna go with the Dodgers, and Otani is just incredible. And I'm in Los Angeles, and politicians like to pander. Yeah, that's good. Oh, I've heard. So his translator was stealing millions of dollars and betting it. That's crazy. That's crazy. Really well beyond the purview of a translator.

Supposed to just communicate on their behalf. There's a lot of banking involved. And gambling. And gambling. Gambling. Terrible. But the guy can play. He's very good. He's apparently very good.

Yes, he's very good. I've heard of him. If I've heard of him, that's how you have to be really good. Hmm. Let's see. Oh, back to Colorado. Colorado endorsed year round daylight savings time. OK, in 2022. How do we get we got to get we got get, we gotta get Congress to do something. I just, here's my view on this.

I think some states should keep switching. If they like switching, they should keep switching. Some states want to be on standard time, they should be on standard time. Some states want to be on daily saving time, they should be on daily saving time. Nobody's passed a bill like that. The only two bills, there's the current standard, but there's no bill that just says everybody can do whatever they want. I would absolutely support that. So, you know, some states like Arizona, they don't shift time because they predated this law that preempts them,

but none of us got in in time. I think it was before I was born, probably before you were born. And I absolutely agree that Congress should leave the important matter of time up to the states were perfectly capable of handling it They're perfect. I got I got I got I got dragged. I got dragged you are gay after all you're in drag No, I you dragged me. All right, I'm gonna read you you're a sweat The library is open. Oh my god. No, all right No, maybe one do you can throw I'm gonna make a whole show of it. All right. As a Swiftie what is your favorite Taylor Swift song? Oh god. So um this is true. I was actually just in the Arrows

tour in Miami. Had an amazing time. I campaigned for Kamala while I was down there too. I was there for Kamala. Do you believe it? No I don't. I simply don't. I'm gonna go shake it off. Shake it off? Interesting. Interesting. I like exile. I was in a moody phase when I heard it. You know? It's about breakup. It was helpful during a breakup.

Let's see. What else do I got for you? Hey, as the first outgavener, this race has been mostly focused on abortion, on the border, on inflation. Do you think people really understand the stakes around LGBT issues? I hope it gets talked about more. First of all, Kamal Harris completely supportive of the LGBT community. Zero question. Donald Trump appointed Supreme Court justices who, of course, removed the right to choose for women, and obviously what we're scared about, and it's not just a potential, it's

a real threat, depending on the future direction of the Supreme Court, is we could lose the ability to marry who we love, because that's only protected by Supreme Court precedents along some states. It's on the ballot in Colorado this year. I think it'll pass, but obviously people should be able to marry who they love as Americans, wherever they are. And that's, yes, very much in jeopardy. (*audience applauds*)

Colorado also has a Dolly Parton Imagination Library. What are you doing there? Oh, this is awesome. So, Dolly Parton has an incredible philanthropic effort where they send every month families who sign up a book, an age-appropriate book for a year old, two year old, all the way up through four years old. So, we implemented this in Colorado. I think we're now in every county in our state and we partner with Dolly Parton to do that. That's cool. Dolly Parton's cool.

Dolly Parton is very cool. And you're. Dolly Parton's cool. Dolly Parton is very cool. And you're a gamer. You're a gamer. I am. And you're playing League of Legends? Yes. Do you play? Yes.

Interesting, interesting. Do you play? I don't play the online big fighting games. I like to face off against a game. I don't like to play other people. So this is not a single person shooter. It's five versus five on a field. So it's fun. And yeah, my husband and I do that many nights, most nights a week.

Can you both play on the same screen? Yeah, we'd be on the same team. Well, we're on different computers. You're on different computers? Yeah, we can't play on the same computer. Well, I'm saying, you know, that's what it used to be. Well, that's like a console system. This is a PC game. Okay, sorry. Do you have a controller or are you using ASD? How are we moving around? Well, that's like a console system. This is a PC game. OK, sorry.

Do you have a controller or are you using ASD? How are we moving around? It's a mouse. A mouse and a keyboard. It's a PC game. God damn it. That is dorky. No controller?

I don't want to play a video game without a controller. I like a controller. It's a free country, man. Play whatever game you want. No, just not for me. I wasn't trying to insult you. I'm sorry. Did you see that Taylor wore a new outfit during the era store?

Well, I mean, she had multiple outfit changes. Yeah. Yes, but there's a new era, but there's something new as cycled in apparently for reputation. Is that right? Yeah. I mean, what was amazing is just, I mean, first of all, the stamina of this woman. I mean, we're talking a four hour concert, we're talking eight, 10 costume changes. I mean, I mean, this is absolutely incredible in addition to the talent. So just an amazing lady. It is pretty good. It's a pretty wild show. Where did you see it? Los Angeles. Talk about that, talk about traffic. Final pitch for people to make sure that they do what they can here in

the last 10 days. Yeah, look, if you're listening to this, vote, start by voting, right? Wherever you are, vote, vote. Election day, early, whatever it is. And then your family, your friends take personal responsibility to get them out. It's most the most meaningful contact that somebody get. We have volunteers going door to door and that helps. But if your friend or family member takes ownership and reminds you and helps you do it, that's more important than anything. So if you care about this election, care about electing Kamala Harris, make sure your personal

network, friends, family, they all vote. And I just also want to say like Colorado is a state that was a swing state. And over time through a lot of organizing a lot of work, it is now a blue state. And because it's a blue state, you're able to do incredible things on renewable energy, incredible things on health care incredible things on education Donald Trump can go there to try to foment whatever he wants to try to foment but Colorado is in Democratic hands we are ready we're saving people money we're cutting costs we've cut income tax three times we've cut

property tax we're building more housing. We're protecting our environment. It's a great place to live. Colorado. Governor Jared Polis, thank you so much. Thank you. We'll be back. We'll be back. Thank you. We come back.

Ego Wodum is here. And we're back. Please welcome Ego Wodum. Hi. Hi. Good to see you. Thanks for being here. Great to see you.

Thank you for having me. Please welcome, Ago Odom. Wow. Hi. Hi. Good to see you. Thanks for being here. Great to see you. Thank you for having me. First of all, how are you here? You must be exhausted. I am always exhausted.

My friend told me before you make any tough decisions, you should halt. That is, discern whether you are hungry, angry, lonely, or tired. I'm all of those things all the time. Yeah, I guess I'll never make another fucking decision. So I can never make a hard decision again in my life. Yeah, but you're just, like, it's SNL in an election year. Yeah, but we're off this week. We happen to be on hiatus this week.

And you're just gonna work through it. Does this work? This is fun. It is fun, but I mean. Yeah, yeah. But also I like working. Blessed to be able to work through it. Does this work? This is fun. It is fun, but I mean. Yeah, yeah. You know. But also I like working. Blessed to be able to work. Yeah.

So, aw. She's grateful. Nice. Now, you have a new podcast. Yes. And it's called, and tell me what it's about. It's called, it's called Thanks Dad. It's called Thanks Dad.

Today my friend called it Thank You Dad, and I go, it doesn't quite have the same ring to it, but it's called Thanks Dad. It's called Thanks Dad. Today my friend called it Thank You Dad, and I go, it doesn't quite have the same ring to it, but it's called Thanks Dad. I was raised by a single mom, don't have a relationship with my dad. I'm never gonna have a relationship with him because turns out he died last year. It's okay, no, it's not sad.

I want you to laugh. I'm like, me, thank you, that's the response. I like this audience. Yeah. You gotta bully them sometimes. Oh no. But their hearts are in the right place. They're easy, that's why it was I like this audience. Yeah. You gotta bully them sometimes. Oh no. But their hearts are in the right place. They're easy, that's why it was so easy.

They're good people. Yeah, they're kind of sweet people. Most of them. They mean well. One of them's gonna write postcards. Some of them aren't doing shit. Oh no? Couple of them.

Couple who? Point them out. I was trying, I protected their anonymity. Light saw it in the house and point them out. I don't like that guy in the third row. I'm feeling violent, okay no. Third row, third row.'t like that guy in the third row. I'm feeling violent. Okay, no, third row, third row. Okay, I can see the third row.

So you started this podcast, your dad's dead, it's funny. It's funny, not sad. Not sad, funny, dead dad, that's a funny one. It's funny, it's a funny thing. It's silly. It's silly, it's goofy. So I have father figures come on the podcast to be my dad for the day,

and I get to talk to them about what their dad was like, and then what they are like as dads, and then they end each episode, or I end each episode asking them for a piece of dad vise. I coined that recently. I don't know if I like it, it might be too corny, but I do get a piece of advice from them. What do we think?

It should be corny. I like this audience. Yeah. I saw someone on Twitter talking about a dad joke their dad told them about what happened when water from the morning had caused a fence to open and let some pigs loose. And he sang- I don't follow, but keep going. Well, he just, he sang, do let the hogs out.

Aw. Sad. See, I said sad to a funny thing. Yeah. Now it's even playing film. Do let the hogs out. I got it. I did get it. I thought that was a good dad joke. I got it.

It was in a very moving poem, believe it or not. Oh, really? Oh, fascinating. Do you find having a podcast dad for a few minutes helpful? I find it, yes, sure. It seems a lot of these dads, I've had wonderful guests on the podcast, not to disparage my guests, but it seems a lot of them aren't equipped to advise me and that makes me feel like I didn't miss out on having a dad. It's rather healing.

I go there, nobody knows what they're doing. Nobody knows what they're doing. Nobody knows what they're doing. It's all a ruse. Now, I don't have any kids, but I guess my Google searches for... Are you sure? Yeah. I've got an envelope in my... Well, I hate to tell you. What a twist that would be. But my Google searches for more fiber, please help, toilet shattered, did tip the algorithm.

Because half the videos I get are about parenting, and boy, I've noticed a trend, and here's the trend. How people treat fathers online versus mothers. And so we're gonna explore it in a game we're calling double standards. Double stand dads. Dads, stand dads. Double stand dads.

And some dads are named Stan, and so this is really just a double on ton dread. Right. Stan double standards. Yeah. Dads. So I'm going to read you something apparent and you have to tell us who did this, a fun dad or a bad mom?

Okay. All right. Here we go. Okay. Number one, is gluing bows to your baby's bald ass head. Is that something an overenthusiastic dad sharing his infant daughter with affection or is it a mother who should be scrutinized by all of America for her commitment to femininity? Ooh, I think that was, Ooh,

dad had to do that. I know. See, Oh my God. If a dad did it'd be fun, but when a mom does it, this is what happens. Okay. Actual glue? Well, I'm sure it's biodegradable or whatever. Mom Amy Davis Clark received backlash online for posting a video praising girly glue, a baby safe hair glue she used

to decorate her daughter's hair with bows. Amy, don't do that. Amy. I don't know. I think it's cute. Amy. You can't do that. It doesn't even look like a bow. It looks like a bandage. It looks like baby hit her head. Is the baby eating the glue? Yeah. That's a shame. Yeah. Now looks Looks like tomato paste also. So this whole photo is confusing to me, but yes. I'm like, that looks like the tomato paste I buy at the grocery store. And that looks like a bandage on the baby's head. But okay. We love you,

Amy. You know what? Yeah. I have a question about tomato paste. Sure. How long do you think you have to cook it or can just kind of go in right at the end? Yeah, I think you got to cook it. It's so rich and such a strange flavor I feel like it needs to be cooked. You got to cook it for a while. I think it's got to be cooked. Yes Yeah, I think it's enjoyable. Have you been just at the end right out the tube slurping derping tomato paste? I was wondering why it was weird. Oh, no Not a good cook. Next up, not being enraged at having four daughters. Oh my gosh.

That's that's that's going to be dad. Yeah. Four girls in one house more like four Satan's in four hells. Or is it? Is this? like four satans in four hells or is it, is this, yeah, this is a fun dad embracing his crowing squabbling brood. Oh, girl dad. Father Austin von Letkman.

I don't like that. Went viral on Instagram in April for a video telling people to, for the love of God, stop coming up to him in public and saying, I'm sorry. When they find out he has four daughters, they come up to him in public and saying, I'm sorry. When they find out he has four daughters. Is that real? They come up to him and say, sorry, you have four daughters. That's cuckoo bananas. That's truly crazy. Then on one hand, I'm thinking, are the people doing that because they're like, oh, you're going to have to protect your girls? Or is it because girls are hard? What do we think the sorry is about? It's not okay, regardless.

Right. I think it's like, bitches be crazy. That's how I was. Calling his poor children bitches. They look very sweet. They look so, well the one on the end. It's just funny that it's like, this gets you on four girls television. Yeah, well girl dad, he's like a, this is quintessential girl dad.

Yeah. Yeah. Which is, couldn't that just be a dad? That's just a dad. Girl dad, just be a dad. Yeah. Yeah. Like when, you know, I, I, you know, as a, as a father of daughters, I care about equality. It's like, okay. All right. Well, did you not get it before? Right. I know it's like, yeah, you don't need to have daughters or even a female cousin or like you could just go, oh, equality is correct.

Right, like use your imagination. Imagine you're related to anyone. Right, in life, frankly. Right, just sort of think of the world. They're all related to someone who cares about them. Correct. And that could have been you. Right, just sort of think of the world. They're all related to someone who cares about them. Correct. And that could have been you. Right.

You could care about them as if. Facts. It's interesting that people don't think that. Like whenever a Republican politician who is anti-gay becomes pro-gay because their kid is gay, it's like you're so close to getting it. You're so close. Now imagine everyone that has everything is your son.

You know? Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you. I'm with you. Love it. You know what that sound means? No, I don't.

I actively do not. It's time for the celebrity parent lightning round. I will read you something a parent did. I need you to say mom or dad is your answer. And if you want a bonus point, you will tell us who that celebrity is. Okay. Are you ready? I'm ready. Declared themselves co-parent of the child after initially trying to hide the existence of the child.

I'm hearing people say Arnold, so I'm going to go dad. Tom Brady also. It's actually so many people. Texting with their 16 month old child. Texting with their 16 month old child. Mom. It was actually dad because in a baffling BBC interview, 83 year old actor Al Pacino said of his 16 son, 16 month old son Roman, he does text me from time to time. Al also like saw death, right, or something he says? Yeah.

Okay. He's been through it. He's been through it. Those eyes, those big eyes. Those big beautiful eyes, expressive eyes. They're really expressive. That's what casting directors say they're looking for in talent, big expressive eyes.

Has Al Pacino ever hosted while you were there? Unfortunately not, no. Yeah. I bet that'd be funny. I bet it would be fun. I'm trying not to cheat, I'm not looking. Wearing a diamond encrusted necklace that says skibbity toilet.

It's giving dad? It was my mom, Kim Kargashian. I don't know anything about parents, okay. Well this is why you need the podcast. Whose daughter, North West, got her a skibbity toilet necklace for her 44th birthday. I don't know anything about parents. Okay. Well, this is why you need the podcast. Yeah. Uh, whose daughter Northwest got her a skibbity toilet next necklace for her 44th birthday. Oh, fun. Skibbity toilet.

I don't understand what skibbity toilet is. It's important that we never know. Okay. It's important that we never know. It's apparently a web. Oh, I have a card telling us what it is. What is skibbity? Maybe today I can learn something.

What is skibbity toilet? Skibbity toilet is a web series from Alexey Garazumov on his channel, Defuck Boom, about a war between human-headed toilets and human-like characters with TVs for heads that has become wildly viral. Didn't understand any of those words. And that's, my friend, is a skibbidi toilet.

I'm confused as well. Whoever said that in the audience is my kin. I'm also, that was a lot of words that they all individually make sense but then thrown together. Cultures leaving us behind. It is. I feel like the rapture has happened. Yeah, that's what getting older is about, I think. Yeah, I think so. How is it working on SNL during an election year? You know, it feels like this is what, I think I've done it before.

It feels the same, honestly, to be honest, every year in that way. It's incredibly intense no matter what's going on. Yes, correct, yeah. Do you feel like there's a pressure to be part of this debate about, in a way that's funny, even though the stakes feel so high? Well, I think that, I mean, given it's a comedy show,

the writers are always thinking funny first. And so, I don't know that it feels more, they feel more pressure. I can't speak to it because that cold open that is usually political, I don't write and I'm rarely a part of. And so, I don't know what they're thinking, but it's funny and I think they're always aiming

to make it funny and sort of draw from whatever is happening and has happened in the landscape that week. Yeah. Do you ever hear from Jasmine Crockett? I had lunch with Jasmine Crockett, like last week. Really? Yeah, yeah, I had lunch with Jasmine Crockett last week. We talked about everything.

That's cool. Everything, yeah, it was very cool. What'd you talk about? Let me be mindful and demure We we talked about her she's on the campaign trail for Kamala, so she's tired and she's bouncing all around she's everywhere and we talked about Dating we talked about I feel like there was something else really juicy in there. I can't remember. But it was like a little, we had a good kiki,

me and Congresswoman Crockett. She's cool. Yeah, she's really cool, I like her. Yeah. Yeah. What's a piece of advice you got from a podcast dad that you actually found really helpful? Recently, Langston Kerman was one of my dads and he, I was asking him about ghosting and he said that I found this fascinating. He was like, ghosting is not the violence we've made it

out to be. He's like, I don't believe it is. He says, I actually think engaging with people when you're not interested is more violent than ghosting. And he was like, and if you've never made a promise to someone and it's very early on and you haven't made plans and it was one date, you can ghost rather than engage with them knowing you're not interested. Yeah, I think that's interesting.

I have some ghosting regrets and I think part of what makes a ghosting, I think sometimes what leads to ghosting is what makes it so bad to do is because in a date sometimes you will have this kind of like brief and false intimacy which you'll kind of lean into and then the date is over and you don't want that intimacy again. Really? That's why I'm saying you. And that's happened to me you said?

I'm yet to experience. But you know what I mean? And so like, I sometimes feel like when I have felt the worst is because like I had led someone on, not be it, no work, nothing tangible. You weren't like, well, do anything, was there any talk of like, we should go to that museum? I'd love to go to that with you. Yes. There was that? Oh, see. There's that level. But I think it's less about a specific plan for the future. There's nothing, there's no contract.

There's nothing objective that you can point to, but there is a kind of, I think there is like an emotional line where you cross it and then you really owe somebody a text and then I panicked. Not that I would go, it's rare. Short answers. Rare, and also, I'll come back also like, I'll come back to this. I'll come back to this.

And then I never came back to it. And I feel guilty about it. And when you say I'll come back to this, do you mean the text or this person? Like I need to send this person a text. So ultimately you did ghost. Yes. Okay.

And that is rough, but you have regrets about it. So I don't need to shame you further. No, but I, but I do have regrets about it. Have you ever ghosted anybody? Sure. Lots of people. Do you have regrets about it. So I don't need to shame you further. No, but I do have regrets about it. Have you ever ghosted anybody? Sure, lots of people. Do you have regrets about it? No, typically no. No, because I don't make, I'm stunned.

I have been on dates where I'm not having a good time. I'm like very aware of the time and just shy of, I don't wear a wristwatch, but I should start so that I can get a sense of how long we've been here. Because I've sat on dates and thought about the other person and I would not want them to feel rejected. So I've like, let the date be a date. And in my mind, two hours, we did it, Joe.

And then, but I'm not interested and I'm not trying to sell you that narrative either. And then that person maybe after is like, let's do it again, and I'm like, unfortunately, I was not with you. I mean, I was physically with you, but I was in no way having a time, and I was actively trying not to mislead you

during that time. Right, but I bet Here's a bit. Here's here. Can I ask you a question? Sure, you can if I answer if I am what I answer is TBD, right? Yeah, that's the beauty of questions and answers, but if I answer I should yeah You don't have to answer and that's that goes for anything You can ask me you can get up and walk out anytime you want and then and goes you can just disappear What if I go to this episode of the...

Just gone. That wouldn't be a ghosting, because I'd be kind of sort of announcing my departure. But I would have a... Here, I wonder... You're... There are dates where... Another person would be like,

this is the best date of my life. And it's a... And for you, it's a B minus at best, but you're very funny and charming. And so it's like, was it a good date or did you just carry a great time? I find myself asking this, I talk about it in therapy. Really?

I do, I do talk about it in therapy. I'll go on dates and genuinely not be trying to be charming. And in fact go, I'd like to see not be trying to be charming. And in fact go, I'd like to see what you bring to the table. Almost like an interviewer. And so I think maybe that is what's happening. Maybe the other party is finding me fun and charming, but I'm actively, I feel like toning it all down and just being sort of drywall.

Yeah, but how do we cover this light, you know? Need a pretty thick blanket. Cover this light. That's very sweet. You know, there may be something to that, and you might, but I talk about it in therapy because I'm like, it's interesting. They think that we had a great time,

and I'm curious to know on what basis. This sounds so bitchy. No, it's not. It's interesting. I'm like, I know when I've had a really good time and me and another person are hitting it off and it's like, oh my gosh, the energy, the vibes are both right here. What a time we're having. And then there's these other dates.

There are these other dates that I'm like, that's not really happening. Did you really have a great time? Or was I just not so bad and thus that's a great time to you? Does that make sense? No, it does make, yeah. Do you ever have the opposite where you've put on quite a show and you realize after that that was fun because I was on and I didn't really get much

from the other person? Yes, I have. I've gone on dates being like, I refuse to have a bad time tonight, so I'm going to have a good time tonight, so I'm gonna have a good time, and then it will be a good time, but if we were to post game inventory, if you will, I'd go, oh, they weren't really doing much of anything, but I just, I wanted to have a good time that night, and I did, and whether you're sitting there or not, I

was. I like that. Yeah. I like that. Yeah, sometimes you want to go on a date and you're like, I don, I was. I like that. Yeah. I like that. Yeah, sometimes you want to go on a date, and you're like, I don't want to have a bad time.

And so I'm not going to have a bad time. Yeah. But dating's weird. It's hard. I don't even know if I think it's hard. I'm sorry I said that. No, no, you can. No.

You said it's hard. I said it's weird. You have your opinion. I think it's strange. I think it's a strange. Is there anyone here on a date? Wow. Any time that happens, is everyone coupled?

Is that why? Is everyone here? No one here is on a date. Is everyone here single? That was like a big woo. How many people here are coupled up? How many people are here in polyamorous arrangements? Hasn't really caught. It's very online.

Hasn't caught. Hasn't caught. But I bet there are people here in polyamorous arrangements. Is anyone here pretending to not be in a polyamorous relationship, but having a secret emotion? I'm seeing a friend point to a friend in the first row. And he's shaking his head. Wow.

And then we're getting accurate. That's cool. Why are you afraid of this? Why is that shameful? Because it's still a weird thing. We found one. Wow. Get him.

I knew it. Bring in the police. Wait, why is... Are you happy? Yes. Wow, that's nice. I think it's an abomination. Are you happy?

I think it's an abomination. Egobodem, thank you so much for being here. Thank you for having me. Everybody check out the podcast. Thanks, Dad. Thank you. Egobodem, we back at the end of the show. We are back.

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. When we come back, Barry Sonnenfeld is here. Don't go anywhere. This is Love It or Leave It, and there's more on the way. And we're back. My next guest loves making movies and hating Donald Trump. Please welcome to the stage, a Hollywood icon and legends, Barry Sonnenfeld.

Thank you for being here. Here, come around. Hi, John. Hi. Barry, may I call you Barry? Unfortunately, yes. Do you not like your name, Barry? Hate it.

Really? I ran into Bill Hader once and I said, did you call your main character Barry because it's the ultimate loser name? And he went, yeah. Why? Why is it such a loser name? It's just a loser name. I hate it.

Although, if I was a woman, I would have been Bertha. So I'm kind of OK. My grandmother's name was Bessie. Bessie. Well, that's an old fashioned name, ain't it? And my grandfather was Bernie, so it was Bernie and Bessie. And she was a very big person. She was a very... So she was a big Bessie.

It went with the name. It fit her. Can you imagine what I'd look like if I was Bertha? Yeah. You'd be beautiful. Yeah, thank you, John. Well, recently a guest on Kelly Ripa's podcast, you revealed that Will Smith farted so badly on the set of 1997 smash hit Men in Black, you had to evacuate the set for three hours. My question is what?

Okay. Guess what? That's not true. That's not true. Here's what happened. What happened? Okay. So Will and Tommy in Men in Black 1, Tommy Lee Jones, are inside the hypercar and

they're upside down going through the Midtown Tunnel and they're locked in to this hermetically sealed space and they're up 15 feet and they're upside down and I say roll camera and I hear Will says, geez, oh sorry Tommy, oh my god, Baz, get us down, get us down right away, get us down. Tommy, I'm so sorry and you hear my god, Baz, get us down. Get us down right away. Get us down. Tommy, I'm so sorry. And you hear Tommy go, that's okay, Will. And we get the ladder, we open up the thing. Tommy is like reaching out to the ladder before it's even close to him.

And Will had farted. Will is a known farter. He does a lot of farting. But here's what happened. He farted. Well, everyone knows that knows everyone's a known farter everyone farts no but will will is sort of a little more proud of his fart oh i see so but here's the thing kelly then said kelly ripper then said and did you have a vac did you have to evacuate

the stage well obviously we didn't have to no one's fart has you having to evacuate the stage? Well, obviously we didn't have to. No one's fart has you having to evacuate a stage. So I said, yeah, for like three hours as a joke, but Variety has it like on the front page that I had to evacuate the stage for three hours. So I apologize, Will, wherever you are. Having a... A fart somewhere. Yeah. Yeah.

Everybody farts. Isn't it weird that it's something we all do, but it's embarrassing? No. Good answer. Can you please give our podcast an anecdote equal to or more disgusting than that one? For example, did John Travolta have explosive diarrhea on the set of Get Shorty? Perhaps Tim Allen had a terrible boil while making Big Trouble. Okay. on the set of Get Shorty, perhaps Tim Allen had a terrible boil while making big trouble. Okay, none of those happen, but I will tell you that I was on Johnny Knoxville's show

squeezing a blackhead that I save up for eight or 10 years. Eight or 10 years. It's more disgusting. I asked for this and now I'm getting what I'm asked for. But anyway, Knoxville brought out a crew and I squeezed my blackhead and he said it's the most disgusting thing he's ever had on his show. Wow, what an achievement. I'm very proud of that.

Do you think Big Trouble was undermined by 9-11 or Tim Allen or both? Mainly, in all honesty, Tim Allen was no fun to work with at all, but mainly 9-11. I mean, we were supposed to come out 11 days after 9-11, and the plot involved Tom Sizemore and Johnny Knoxville stealing a suitcase nuclear bomb. Look, there's Warburton, one of my all-time favorite people ever. A stealing a nuclear bomb, which wouldn't work

nine days after 9-11, 11 days after 9-11. So, yeah. Tim Allen a prick? Yeah. No. He's just one of those comedians that's always on. Oh, I hate those people. Now you also know.

So I want to ask you about this. Yes, John. David Schwimmer talked about turning down the men in black role that would eventually go to Will Smith. Schwimmer said, I don't know if I made the right choice. My question is, what? Well, Schwimmer says he was up for that role, so he probably was. The one that I remember was, oh, you know, Sweetie,

who was it? Chris O'Donnell. Thank you. My brains, the brains of the operation. Chris O'Donnell. Everyone wanted Chris O'Donnell. But Sweetie told me Will Smith, so I had to get Will Smith. Wow. So Chris, yeah. So Chris O'Donnell is great. Yeah, he's great. He's very great. But I don't know about Schwimmer.

Uh, he's, he's lovely. So there is a question we, with that, that we were talking about that we wanted to ask you that there was a rumor about the wild wild west spider and that it had originally been a part of a Superman movie and that then it came over and became part of wild wild west. Is that true? Okay so what you're getting at is John Peters. John Peters was the producer of wild wild west. There were several things he insisted on. The least of the problems was a giant spider. The bigger problem was Will Smith in Drag. Something that neither Will nor I had any interest in having in the movie. We could not talk John out of it. So there's this horrible scene. Look, it's not a good movie. Don't get me wrong. I don't know that I agree. Okay. Well fine. Well, you're wrong

Yeah, the spider was also way too big and there was no chemistry between Will and Kevin Klein Unlike Will and Tommy Lee Jones were where it was all chemistry when you first heard Kenneth Branagh's accent Did you? What did what was your response? Okay, so Before you start a movie have a table read where everyone sits around and for the first time you hear all the actors reading their roles and we had all the Warner Brothers guys there and all that and Will Smith goes out of his way to do a bad reading. He doesn't want to be judged and he doesn't want his performance or his attitude or anything judged. And he doesn't want his performance or his attitude or anything judged, so he's

the worst. You want his stand-in, who can't even read necessarily, to be his table read guy. But Kenneth came in, totally dressed the part. He had the trident facial hair, the southern accent, and the head of Warner Brothers, Lorenzo de Bonaventura, after the table read said to me, is there any way we can get rid of Kenneth Branagh and hire that guy to play Loveless? And it was Kenneth Branagh. Kenneth, Lorenzo didn't realize he was so, Kenneth was so good that he didn't see Kenneth in the role. We have a clip of his accent

don't you do and that's all how do you do the is a good movie. It's camp. There are parts of it that are very funny. A projector, a head is a projector. It's a very funny concept. Well, funny concepts. All right. Next question. You talk in your book about firing Donald Trump. You are one of the few people on earth that can claim to have successfully done

this other than 81 million Americans What happened okay, so basically used to have these commercials where they would have all their Branded stars Martha Stewart Usher who I beat in leg wrestling Mariah Carey all these people and Trump was selling his ties, probably, or his suits. And so we're tracking down this whole row. It's set up for Thanksgiving, past all these famous people, and we end up at the end of this huge dolly shot on Donald Trump and a little girl who's about to touch his hair and he says don't even think about it. That's the joke of the commercial. Funny kind of. Alright

so we shoot to wide master, we get it in one take because Donald will only give us 20 minutes. Everyone else was there for two full days. He said I'll give you 20 minutes. So I said okay we're just going to go in for your close up. I line up the camera, he says, you can't shoot me, that's my bad side. I said, well, Don, it's, we have to shoot you from this side because you were looking this way at the little girl, and he said, find a place where you can shoot me from the good side or I'm leaving. So I held out my hand and I said, thank you very much for coming, it was a pleasure working with you." And he said, you're gonna let Donald Trump leave and not get a close-up of this, meaning his face. His amazing face. His amazing face. And I said, well yeah. And I said, okay

we're over here, next show, we're over here on Martha. And ten minutes later he tapped me on the shoulder and he said, all right you can shoot me from my bad side and I said we've we've moved on Don like all bullies if you just call him on it like the governor of Georgia is constantly calling Don on it and Don backs down all the time against Brian Kemp. Yeah yeah there so this is a book about your incredibly storied career. What do you look back on as like the, like I feel like there are movies, there are directors who have those moments

where a movie seems like it fell down on top of them. And then there are moments where a director says, ah, this is it, I've clicked in. This is exactly where I was supposed to be. And you've had all manner of experience. How do you, what have you learned from those two different versions of what it means to direct a movie?

Oh, it's so hard. When you, making movies is really hard. What the book tells you is it's really hard. So much is about luck and so much is trying to not deal with horrible, horrible studio executives. And there are very few good studio executives. There are very few good studios.

The best one that I ever dealt with, and I don't know if they're still like this, was Netflix. What I, I did three years of a show called The Series of Unfortunate Events for Netflix and it was the three best years of my life. Their theory is hire the right director and spend the time, get the right guy, but then let him be the director. I mean, when you go to the dentist, you don't say, I would use that drill. I wouldn't use that. You don't say that the plumber used the crescent wrench, use it.

But studio executives think that they can say anything, because they don't understand what directors do. So having said that, what I will say is directing's really hard, and it's really painful. I've had sciatica for almost 30 years from the stress of directing. But luckily, I'm not directing much. And once people read this book, I'll direct even less.

So maybe my sciatica will go away. And that's one of the beautiful things about becoming an author. The book is Best Possible Place, Worst Possible Time. It's out now. We come back. It's wheel time. Barry S back, it's Wheel Time. Barry Sonnebohle everybody, stick around.

And we're back. 11 days left, there's so much on the line, but this is the climate election. The climate is on the ballot in the presidential, in the house race, in the Senate race, in governor's races, in local races all across the country. As part of Crooked Ideas Anti-Dome Initiative, I sat down with writer, activist,

and the founder of Climate Action, one of the world's leading environmentalists, Bill McKibben, to talk about how we can solve the climate crisis. If you stick around to the end of this episode, you can hear part of my conversation with Bill McKibben. And he is somebody that has been fighting tooth and nail on climate, and I think over the next couple days, you'll hear in his conversation, the conversation

I just recorded with AOC, we're talking to Bernie Sanders tomorrow about pragmatism, progressivism, how we fight in the way that gets the best result. And it was a really interesting conversation. So everybody stick around to the end of the episode to hear that. All right, please welcome back to the stage, Ego and Governor Jared Polis. Welcome back. All right. With the election less than two weeks away, no one has even a speck of an idea of what's gonna happen. We just have to live with that. In that same spirit, we're each going to share one unknowable, unexplainable thing that we've accepted

in order to get through this wild, wacky, wet for some reason, ride we call life. All right, do we have a wheel? Yeah, of course we do. It's a very professional show, Barry, it's not about. Yeah, no, not too loud, yeah. ["The Sound of a Bell"] I have learned to accept something that I don't understand, which is the concept of optimism.

I'm a big believer that there's no upside to optimism. And I'll tell you what I mean by that if I could. If you get on an airplane and you turn to the person next to you and say, before we land, this plane is going to crash, one of two things happen. Either as the plane is about to crash, you get to turn to the guy next to you and go, am I right or what? Which is a win. Or you don't crash, which is a win. That's the joy of pessimism. If you get on a plane and say, if we land, we're gonna land successfully, at best that's the, that's only one of two possible outcomes. The other one is you crash and then you lose.

So always embrace pessimism, but I'm trying. My wife is trying to convince me to be more optimistic. But I don't understand the concept. Right, right, doesn't relate for you. Yeah, I mean, huh. I think it's like a terrible way to move through life. No, it's great. Okay. And then. I think I read though that optimism

correlates with like longevity too. So if you're more pessimistic you wind up like dying. Great. Because you know you're gonna predict you're gonna die and you die right? Yeah. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Okay. Right, I guess you'll be miserable but good news it won't last long. It won't last long. Very Woody Allen life. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's. You're welcome. Thanks.

Let's spin that again. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Yeah. Governor Polis, what is something you'll never know and you're fine with? I never understand dress shoes for men. And I see that we all are wearing sneakers. I don't own any and don't wear any and I don't understand it and I'm fine with that. I appreciate that. They're uncomfortable, they're horrible, like and you get blisters like why? Why? Yeah. No I it's actually something that has

always bothered me because it's like hey I thought men were I thought there was a patriarchy and that the men were in charge. Why are we cinching fabric around our necks and then wearing these sort of tighter shoes? It doesn't make any sense. The tie, you look fantastic. It looks great and no one's saying otherwise. I'm comfortable. Embrace affectation.

Oh, OK. Why? Because people remember you. That takes a cravat. Good point. Good point. OK, very good point. Huh.

Yeah. It's interesting. I'd love to see a man in a dress shoe. It does look like a dress shoe. Just, well, it's not as attractive when a man keeps the shoes on and the rest is off I'll know it doesn't work. It's doesn't translate that way Do you think people won't remember you if you're not wearing a tie you're very memorable person well I wasn't always that until I started to wear the ties, but what about cowboy boots are they allowed I?

Kid them's fighting words in Colorado, Barry. No, I love... I'm a big embracer of cowboy boots. No, that's over purpose, because if you're going through like mud and terrain, like you do want boots. Yeah, snakes, exactly. So I'm talking dress shoes, don't understand it, I'm good with them. They don't protect you from snakes.

No. Good point. So, at your wedding, you were wearing sneakers. Uh-oh. You know? No, no good point so at your wedding you were wearing sneakers I have to go I was wearing a cravat. I literally was a yellow one. I'm sorry What kind of fucking gay man doesn't remember the shoes he wore at his own wedding? What are what? Are you kidding me does your husband remember what shoes you were wearing I'll ask him right after this I Hope you do

What's an unknown you accept? Why we say, bless you after people sneeze, but nothing for a cough. Nothing for a cough, bless you for a sneeze. Confounding to me. It is confounding. Why do we do that? You're asking me and I'm asking you. It would seem like we should

say nothing after people sneeze and it's cool after people fart. Like, you're cool, we're cool. should say nothing after people sneeze and it's cool after people fart. You're cool. We're cool. Lots of farts are silent. Right. Right. But deadly. But deadly. But deadly. But deadly. Yeah, a lot of farts. It is a pure cultural thing that farting is.

I mean, obviously they're gross. We don't enjoy them. No. So it's so it's so there's a value to us all finding them repellent. I thought the proper etiquette is to pretend you didn't do it. Isn't that the proper etiquette? Yeah, that's often a politician's tactic, I suppose. Yeah, why do we say bless you? It's strange. I'm like, and oftentimes people don't even hear you say it. It's a formality of a sneeze. They've moved on. There's three in a row. Are you saying, usually a sneeze comes in threes. We're saying bless you each time. That feels crazy.

Do you ever throw in a gesundheit? I'm not a gesundheit girl. No. Guilty. I see that. I see that. Have you ever thrown in a gesundheit? God no. Yeah. Bless you. You speak the full God bless you. God bless you. Yeah. I just throw, I do bless you. I think I just shorten it. Do you really, do you actually say bless you in some of the sneezing? Yeah, I do. I think, doesn't that like date from like, they thought that like you were possessed by a demon

if you sneezed or something. Yeah. That's why, I think that's like what that comes from. Oh wow. I don't know. But then the cough, you're not. But you're not possessed of it. Possessed, yeah.

Which I find more repelling a cough, frankly. Yeah. Yeah, it is. It's more contagious at least. And a cough, I do know that a sneeze is a function of an allergen. So it's like there's an allergen and you cough, it's like you got a virus situation going on.

Or a demon. Allergen or demon. The other thing too is with, there was a generational change, because like when I was a kid, we were taught to cough and sneeze into our hands, but then there was a change in the 90s and or 2000s and now you're doing in the elbow

We all are supposed to do it in the elbow now But as a kid we were you sure like how many people are as a kid were trained? Make sure you cover your mouth when you cough with your hand And how many people were trained to do it in the elbow as a kid? It's an older crowd the elbows back then we have elbows't have elbows back then, but you Kennedy, you were wait, so Chris, Jenzy was in the, in the crud. You're not, no. And, and, and did they know about, they, did you get, do you talk about it?

Do they have germ theory? I was on, I was an only child. I was allowed to do whatever I wanted. Wow. All right. Let's spin it again. Wait, there's more? Alright, I have two. My first one is, I'm just going to do this, this is my last time I'm going to do this. You will not learn from early vote who is going to win. You will not learn from early vote who is going to win.

You will not learn from any model who is going to win. You will not know from the absentees who will going to win. Even though John Ralston is the only person to listen to in Nevada, he doesn't know right now who is going to win Nevada. There's going to be no information over the next 10 days that will tell us what the outcome of this election is. There's just nothing to reassure us. You're allowed to be as scared as you want to be no information over the next 10 days that will tell us what the outcome of this election is There's just nothing to reassure us you're allowed to be as scared as you want to be you're allowed to be as confident as that man In row K

Who knows what's going to happen as long as you're doing something to make that outcome a reality You are allowed to feel over the next 10 days. So ever you want it simply does not matter How you feel over the next 10 days, however you want, it simply does not matter how you feel over the next 10 days. What's going to matter is how we feel when the election is over. Our mistake in 2016 was worrying way too much about how we felt in the moment as the election was unfolding and not nearly enough about the stakes themselves. So let's focus on the stakes and getting those last few people out, go to vote save America.com. This is the final stretch.

A lot of you are doing a lot. Thank you. A lot of you are doing a lot. Thank you. A lot of you are doing a little. That is great. A lot of you can still go through your contact list and find those three friends in those seven swing states and get them to turn out. We're just gonna have to live with the uncertainty

over the next week. I don't never need to, I never need to find out where the eels are mating or how they do it. I simply never need to find out. I know that they're going to somewhere far away. I know it's a bit of a mystery. That's supposed to be a mystery.

What about an eel is telling these scientists that we ought to be getting to the bottom of their reproductive situation. Their little demon freaks from deep below the ocean don't follow them. They go so far from us to mate and we're gonna fucking follow them let them go they are monsters from the deep you're gonna go find the place I don't think so can I comment on your

thing for one second mm-hmm If you embrace my theory of pessimism, what you want to do is bet money that Trump will win. Therefore, if he wins, you make money. If he loses, you get to not have Trump as president. That's like blood money, Barry. That's like blood money. You know those blood diamonds in Africa? That's hedging. That's a you're you're, you're right. I'm hedging. Well, just to go to my sincere... My sincere, just to leave it here, my sincere response to your pessimism is, I think if you want to be pessimistic because you enjoy being pleasantly surprised,

I think that's a completely fine way to go through life. But I think just that, especially in a cynical and very anxious time, remembering, and this is something I've just that, especially in a cynical and very anxious time, remembering, and this is something I've said before, that being cautiously optimistic and disappointed is not less sophisticated than being cynical and pleasantly surprised. Totally agree. And that's, that's, I think the most important. You can be hopeful, you can be nervous, come as you are, but nobody knows what's gonna happen.

Leave it all on the field is what we say in sports. And leave it all on the fucking field. Work your butts off, let's just make sure if the wrong thing happens, you know that you did everything that you could to forget it, to make sure it didn't and don't feel guilty for one moment. Yeah, no guilt. No guilt.

When we come back, we're going to end on a high note. Woo! I love the present pause. Say that into the mic. I love the present pause. There's so much tension. Every time there's that silence, it's just fantastic. I love it.

Have I just been discovered? Is it happening for me finally? He's politely saying you shouldn't talk. Yeah. I like the quiet parts of the show, the parts where he didn't talk. All right. And we're back. Because we all need it, here it is, this week's high note.

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Our theme song is written and performed by Shure Shure. Thanks to our designer, Bernardo Serna, for creating and running all of our visuals, which you can't see because this is a podcast, and to our digital producers, David Tolles, Claudia Hey everybody, it's Love It. Before we go, check out my interview with climate activist and environmentalist Bill McKibben, one of the smartest people talking about climate change. This is part of Cricut's anti-dume initiative from Cricut Ideas. We are talking about climate change, not only about the threats we face, but of the people and organizations and companies and policies that are actually having an impact

and proving that we can win this fight. Check it out. It was a great conversation. Joining us today is writer-activist, founder of climate action nonprofit 350.org and one of the world's leading environmentalists, Bill McGibbon. Welcome to the show. Hey, what a pleasure to be with you, man. Let's start with this, the Inflation Reduction Act.

Terrible name. I mean, it's fine. I'm glad we called it that. But many thought climate action on this scale was a political impossibility. Can you talk about what its passage represents, both in terms of the policy and in terms of how the politics have shifted.

Well, let's talk about the politics that got us there, which is completely fascinating. Young people in the Sunrise Movement set up this amazing thing and brought us the Green New Deal, and it kind of changed the politics for a moment around all this, such that in the 2020 Democratic primaries,

climate was in many polls the number one issue for voters. And that meant that Joe Biden needed to consolidate support with the Bernie wing of things, and he did so by making, above all, a real pledge to take that Green New Deal and start translating it into something. And he kept that pledge, the first big slug of money that the US government has ever spent on trying to fight the single biggest problem the world has ever faced. And the largest investment any country on earth has ever made in addressing climate change

based on the passage of the IRA, the pledges we've seen around the world, the shifts we've seen in politics and policy, a lot more to do, but where are we now in your mind on the doom hope continuum? Well, look, the things that we were warning about 40 years ago are now coming true, and they are scary and real.

On the other hand, we're also seeing a rapid spike in the implementation of renewable energy, which is the one thing big enough to have some hope. We finally are starting to build out those solar panels and wind turbines, and it's starting to make a difference. You know, June 2023 had the hottest temperatures ever recorded on this planet. But June 2023 was also the month when human beings started past the point of putting up a gigawatt of solar panels every day. That's the equivalent of a nuclear power plant in solar panels every single day. We've got cheap wind,

cheap sun, cheap batteries. They're on the shelf. We can deploy them at speed and we must. The other day I saw an article on, I think it was the New York Times or some other elite publication that said top 10 climate friendly recipes when you're cooking at home. And what I honestly wanted to say is like,

hey, why don't you do me a favor and go fuck yourself? Because for a long time, the oil industry and sort of right-wing media has been trying to make this about individual responsibilities and individual pain, right? You're gonna lose your hamburgers, you're gonna lose your straws.

No one's taking my straws, Bill. But what we've seen with the Biden administration with their political attack is it's much more about what we're gonna gain. We're gonna gain clean energy, we're gonna get new jobs, new industries. How do you feel about that distinction? Do you think it's a little bit of a cop-out

to try to not talk about individual responsibility, or do you think that that's the right move politically? Look, I'm glad that my house is covered with solar panels, and I'm glad that they connect to an EV in the garage. But we are past the point where we're going to solve this one Tesla at a time, one vegan dinner at a time. The most important thing an individual can do is be a little less of an individual and join together with others in movements and campaigns large enough to change

the basic economic and political ground rules here. Bill McKibben, thank you so much. Thank you, man. What a pleasure. And thanks for all the work you guys do all the time. We're really grateful for it. Thank you to Bill McKibben. Learn more about the Anti-Dome Initiative at CricutIdeas.org. And to make sure your voice is heard on everything you care about, you know what you have to do. You have to vote and you have to get everybody that you've ever met to vote.