Mark Bell's Power Project - Changing the Way You Age and Change the Way You Look at Psychedelics || MBPP Ep 799
Episode Date: September 8, 2022In this Podcast Episode, Mark Bell, Nsima Inyang, and Andrew Zaragoza talk about "shiitake mushrooms" and the effects of psychedelics and how past guest, Alain Ngalani, is a great example of how we ca...n in fact, age in revers. Join The Power Project Discord: https://discord.gg/yYzthQX5qN Subscribe to the new Power Project Clips Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UC5Df31rlDXm0EJAcKsq1SUw Special perks for our listeners below! ➢https://thecoldplunge.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save $150!! ➢Enlarging Pumps (This really works): https://bit.ly/powerproject1 Pumps explained: https://youtu.be/qPG9JXjlhpM ➢https://www.vivobarefoot.com/us/powerproject Code POWERPROJECT20 for 20% off Vivo Barefoot shoes! ➢https://markbellslingshot.com/ Code POWERPROJECT10 for 10% off site wide including Within You supplements! ➢https://mindbullet.com/ Code POWERPROJECT for 20% off! ➢https://eatlegendary.com Use Code POWERPROJECT for 20% off! ➢https://bubsnaturals.com Use code POWERPROJECT for 20% of your next order! ➢https://vuoriclothing.com/powerproject to automatically save 20% off your first order at Vuori! ➢https://www.eightsleep.com/powerproject to automatically save $150 off the Pod Pro at 8 Sleep! ➢https://marekhealth.com Use code POWERPROJECT10 for 10% off ALL LABS at Marek Health! Also check out the Power Project Panel: https://marekhealth.com/powerproject Use code POWERPROJECT for $101 off! ➢Piedmontese Beef: https://www.piedmontese.com/ Use Code POWER at checkout for 25% off your order plus FREE 2-Day Shipping on orders of $150 Follow Mark Bell's Power Project Podcast ➢ https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast ➢ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ https://www.facebook.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/mbpowerproject ➢ LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/powerproject/ ➢ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/markbellspowerproject ➢TikTok: http://bit.ly/pptiktok FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢https://www.tiktok.com/@marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ https://www.breakthebar.com/learn-more ➢YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/NsimaInyang ➢Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/?hl=en ➢TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nsimayinyang?lang=en Follow Andrew Zaragoza on all platforms ➢ https://direct.me/iamandrewz #PowerProject #Podcast #MarkBell #FitnessPodcast libsyn
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uh like just like uh uh lo lo
there's definitely some really weird things with psychedelics i never tried dmt
but it sounds really interesting if you if you did anything and there was just like a
giant that would that's not a fun it'd be like i'm out of here i went down a weird rabbit hole
on twitter where um i found myself looking at evidence that all mountains are actually just prehistoric giants.
Maybe about three years ago,
there was a guy that went crazy
and that went all over the news and he was on LSD.
One thing I would say is like,
respecting all drugs is really important,
but also reinterpretation of drugs,
I think is also important.
Like what the fuck is alcohol?
If you don't attribute like negative
and bad things towards it, other than alcohol, because alcohol is literally poison.
But when it comes to something like.
Well, alcohol is not it's not a plant.
It seems like you can utilize some of these things and you can enjoy them and you can reap the benefits.
Although sometimes when you take like a psychedelic, the trip that you go on, I know some people who are like, just kind of torn apart by like what they saw or
what they viewed or what they went through. As much as I understand that, I don't believe it.
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I've never had a sour belt.
Well, now you have.
I'm going to take some of this real quick
and I'm going to wash it down.
You don't have a sour belt.
The camera's, I mean, we're recording,
but the camera's not on you, so.
Well, I'm literally eating, you know,
some shiitake mushrooms.
There you go.
All right, now the camera's on.
For health.
Hashtag. Hashtag shiitake mushrooms
Hashtag eating anivore
Jesus Christ
That is traps
Not what he's doing
Look at his neck
That's not what he's doing
His neck is huge
That's a lot of shiitake mushrooms
Is he normally that big?
Oh my
This is kind of gross
the sour belt
yeah
you don't like it
no
oh man
I mean
that was delicious
it's sugary but
you can't hide that flavor
I do not taste any of the shiitake mushroom flavor at all
unless you cook it with
cook it with some steak, maybe.
Let's look up real quick.
Andrew.
Can you cook up some shrooms with steak?
Some shiitake mushrooms?
Yeah.
Like the shiitake mushroom.
Let me just give you guys a definition.
I know about that.
So I can help you guys understand what shiitake mushrooms are, which these totally are. Shiitake mushroom, let me just give you guys a definition. Oh, yeah, I know about that. So I can help you guys understand what shiitake mushrooms are, which these totally are.
Shiitake.
Shiitake mushrooms are from Japan.
They're native to East Asia, which is now cultivated and consumed around the globe.
It is considered a medicinal mushroom and some forms of traditional medicine.
Normal, you can cook it with whatever.
Non-drug.
That's totally what we're eating right now.
Yeah, the non-drug shiitake mushrooms that
are pretty popular these days they're dried out though right like they're not like
picked straight and then you can eat that doesn't have to dry out what do i know
i don't know because i would imagine if it's still not dry then you can probably cook it in your
steak i don't know if you can cook the mushrooms you're talking about
with steak um because all the mushrooms that are non-shitake but also kind of shitake um are dry
and yeah there's also mushroom tea right which is yeah you know non-shitake mushroom tea
i don't know uh if you guys are curious what we're talking about after this episode, just go to our Discord.
There's a company that sent us some non-Shitake mushrooms.
People are like, what the hell is he talking about?
And if you don't know what I'm talking about, then you just haven't been listening to this podcast for a long time.
If you don't know, you don't know.
You don't know.
So head to the Discord and you will understand what we are speaking about.
But yeah, this podcast might get a little fun.
I know.
I was just talking about I'm starting every day, and I have been for a while, with my own products.
I'm high on my own supply when it comes to the Keto Pro and when it comes to Steak Shake.
And of course, it's my own stuff, so I'm going to talk about how amazing it is.
But it fucking tastes awesome, and I'm addicted.
I'm hooked in. I wish we – did we we leave it it's in the office right now but yeah after the run i mixed two scoops of vanilla two scoops chocolate the keto pro um they had like 700 grams of fat
that's awesome yeah yeah uh there's um it's like almond milk in the fridge that was not spoiled
but i also had to throw away two things in our fridge here because someone just keeps spoiled milk in there who knows um that shit was good but
if you guys don't have a ninja blender and if anybody knows somebody at ninja let us know
because that grill that ninja grill looks amazing but they got a coffee maker they got all kinds of
stuff they have a coffee maker yeah ninja's cornering the market on like things that make life by the way i've never seen both you guys so happy and excited about something until yesterday
when i mentioned that new coke zero that was out that white marshmallow one or whatever i was in
the store yesterday looking for trying to find it didn't have it so see here's a weird thing too i
was at like a weird like circle k you know how like sometimes those
places have like the weird offbeat like candy it's got the weird offbeat like drinks that's uh
it was it was one of those spots and the fucking the guy at the register fuck it i'm spending it
the guy at the register couldn't have been any more worthless. It was unbelievable. I hate that.
I said, can I have a bag? He goes, yes.
Fuck off, dude.
I said, hey,
Andy was trying to put the top on because it has
a slurpee
station. Andy got a diet
soda or whatever and she got a bunch of ice
in there. Her and I went on a walk and it was super
hot out.
She was all excited. She goes to push the lid down and it just goes and it just like crunches on the side and then she just kind of looks at me and i can tell she's getting frustrated
and she tries to crinkle it down more and then it works but then she goes to pick up the cup and
the cup sags in too much and the top goes right back up and off and then she like you know
tried to cram it down on there again and she got it perfect and as the guy's like ringing it up he
touched it and the top came off again and she goes hey just so you know those lids they don't really
fit very well and he goes yeah we're just doing the best we're just doing the best we can with
what we got and then we're leaving and i'm like that's not like you don't do the best you can with what you got when you have a business
like you need to correct that like fucking order new lids something and then the guy when i when
he did uh have a bag he like throws it on the counter and i go okay i'm good i guess i'll just
bag these myself and i just bagged it just looking at him i'm like you fucking weirdo pale ass motherfucker it always bums me out when i'm not
saying that was the case or this was the case with that guy but when somebody is just like really
unhappy with where they work like that just bums me out when they give me like shitty service but
i just want to be like just just quit. You'll find another shitty job somewhere else.
Just don't take it out on me, though.
You know how it is sometimes.
You walk inside some of these stores.
This is like walking in the fucking Twilight Zone.
The guy comes in.
He's wearing socks and sandals.
And he was pulled in on a motorcycle.
He's got a motorcycle helmet on.
And he walks in.
He can't even see because he's got this fucking helmet on
he like knocks something over and then a girl comes out to help him that works there and he's
like hey girl he's like what's going on and she's like huh and i was like man what the hell's going
i'm like what the hell's going on in here like this guy's being like weird with her and yeah
what town was this it's just in dav Davis. Oh. It was just in Davis.
Even worse.
All hell's breaking loose everywhere.
It's always weird walking into a gas station like that where like people kind of know each
other.
If you're like, I don't know, like even going up to like Bodega or something.
I knew I shouldn't have stopped there either.
Yeah.
Because I know that place is fucked that way.
I used to live on that side of town and I knew better.
And because I had negative thoughts
going in it happened negative shit went down you willed it into existence i did yeah but you're
saying andrew people knew each other what no just it's like weird like um i don't know like we've
been like camping in like some out out you know outskirts of whatever the fuck area norcal we
live in yeah and they walk into like a gas station or like a convenience store or whatever.
And for lack of better terms,
there's like a lot of hillbillies around.
But like the store owner like knows who they are
and like, oh, what's up?
You know, so-and-so, da-da-da.
And I'm just like, they know I'm not from here.
Like they know my cell does not have any signal right now.
Like this could end weird.
Like let's grab the Mexican and throw them in the back of our trunk.
And I would be the only Mexican in the whole fucking town.
Have you guys seen the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just,
I'm not sure.
I seen a more recent one.
I don't know how far back.
This one's like 60s.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
That one was,
if you remember,
that one was very subtly
frightening and it was just i just remember the part of the movie when the girl like they
these people just stop at this random gas station and it's just like number one i didn't realize how
open people were potentially to hitchhikers in the 60s that's one thing it's like people
were way more trusting of people where someone would just be like hit your ride with somebody and they'd hit your ride yeah right people really did that shit and yeah
you go to some of these gas stations no cell service you just it's just you and whoever's
there's like damn shit that's why people got away with so much murder it's like murder was so easy
a few decades ago now that shit's tough you i'll actually track you yeah i was gonna say
all you had to do was just lie and they'd be like well we got nothing else against you you don't
know how to prove where you were like it was just that's it you know it's kind of cool though i mean
i'm happy i'm alive at i'm definitely happy i'm alive at this point fuck that that shit would not
have been good for me but um scary ass shit going down back in the day you should be happy too
and we made it oh man anyway what we got you're talking about um in galan and
along galani galani along galani i even misspelled his name on one of the titles i fucked up all right i love i got i got i got a real star boy graham um all right so
all right so i always give kudos to people who really try on names but over the years i've
learned that no matter what you just you know i don't blame you if you don't know how to say
my name correctly i don't because the the language that my name is based off from your language probably has not made any of those sounds right so when teachers
would always say my name i'd be like in sema in yang and then they'd say my first name wrong
and they'd be like did i say it right i'm like yeah because it's like close enough yeah it's
close enough right graham is a guy who loves to try he really does and it's great so he's
fucked up my name many times and I don't blame
for it, so I don't even care.
When he was trying
to say Allah's name,
okay, Allah
is Allah.
Allah, Allah, Allah.
Not Alain, not Alon, Allah.
It looks like Alain.
It looks like Alain.
It's spelled out, right?
But as much as this man tried, he would always revert back to a lane.
And then he's like, did I say it right?
He's like, no.
Ah, la.
Ah, lo, lo.
Ah, lo.
Ah.
Like, just like, uh.
Uh.
Lo.
Lo.
See?
It's the little shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah close enough lol or lul or lul lol or lol
yeah uh uh uh let's try the last name glani ingalani close enough or galani yeah Ngalani. Close enough. Or Galani.
Ngalani.
Ngalani.
So he,
when he says his name is Alangalani,
so Ngalani,
but yeah, that man was trying a lot and he just wouldn't give up.
And it was,
it was fun to see,
but we were having dinner and we were talking about psychedelics,
not like the stuff that we just took.
We were literally just eating shiitake mushrooms, which you could buy from Costco in any store.
That's what we –
Because of the potassium.
Because of the potassium.
But at the dinner, we were talking about psychedelics.
Jim Galpin was there.
It was Graham and Allah.
And Jim was talking about how shrooms and psychedelics have helped people with trauma, helped people be introspective, et cetera.
have helped people with trauma, helped people be introspective, et cetera.
And Aloha had a story about how in Hong Kong, there was a man who they said he took mushrooms. But what happened to this man is he apparently took a high dose of mushrooms.
He brought a lady to his apartment, killed her, chopped her up because he was high.
And then he did it the next day, too.
He brought another lady, killed her.
And then the police asked asked why did you do this
because they they actually found the first dead lady and then they saw on the cctv or the cameras
that you brought somebody else here and it was in one lady that he cut up and put in a suitcase
i think that was really wasn't me i was on mushrooms yeah he is he yeah he he said it was
it was because too much maybe that was just that was just his defense. Yeah, maybe. But you know what?
I'll get to this in a second.
But Allah has never done psychedelics.
And the cool thing about him is he's so chill.
He's relaxed.
He's very introspective.
We talked about his past and stuff.
It seems like he may have done something like that. But he's like, no, I never have.
And that's the type of, I guess, insight that people are trying to get to personally uh
when they do stuff like uh the psychedelics we were talking about at that dinner um so i just
thought that was interesting there are people able to view themselves i think uh fairly realistically
you know inwardly and outwardly and maybe he had some of those experience.
I mean, shit through fighting, you know, like Fight Club is like,
I think it's one of the greatest movies of all time.
Fight Club is amazing.
And life a lot of times is a fight,
and it's a fight against the man in the mirror.
You know, it's a fight against, you think you have an opponent,
but it's really you fighting against like a lot of your own fears i mean obviously in mma and jiu-jitsu and stuff you
do have a literal opponent but it's you just getting over your own shit it's you just getting
over your own fears and maybe somebody um you know maybe somebody that has practiced that for
such a long time maybe they have a way to kind of look inward and then also a way to zoom out and to looking at what everybody else is doing in the world and comparing themselves to other people and letting the weight of the comments and the weight of stuff that's happening politically and socially, letting that kind of pull them around, getting kind of towed around by their emotions.
kind of towed around by their emotions, maybe for those people it's harder to get that perspective. And maybe for someone like that, maybe a practice of yoga or investigating,
maybe trying some psychedelics or some therapy of some sort might be a good idea.
Absolutely. No, I think it would be a great idea.
And that's a really tough thing when it comes to like sometimes we've talked about
shrooms, sometimes you've talked about weed and some of these other things.
When many people do this stuff, it's mainly to try to escape the daily life.
It's trying to – it's not used as something to help you think more.
It's actually – I mean especially alcohol.
It's something that you use to help you just try to take the edge off.
And life can be stressful and it's very hard sometimes to shift that perspective because you are so focused on all the things you got to deal with.
You got fucking bills.
Some people got kids.
Some people got rough relationships.
Like there's a lot of shit that's just like – it makes things tough.
There's a lot of shit that's just like – it makes things tough.
So I can totally – I totally get it how it's just difficult to get out of your own skin.
Even when you do stuff like shrooms or whatever, it's still kind of hard to get out of your skin or think about things from a different perspective.
But this stuff doesn't – I mean, for me personally,
shrooms did help with that.
We did help with that.
But yeah.
I think a certain kind of person is going to be open to doing that and maybe because a certain kind of person is open to doing that,
maybe that allows things to creep in that allow them to also see themselves better.
So somebody that's resistant, that doesn't want to take any of those things, even if they did have the experience, maybe they wouldn't get the same out of it.
Maybe they would take shrooms and be like, I didn't get anything from that.
You know, just because they maybe are a little resistant to it.
Maybe they didn't try enough or maybe it's also just not for them.
But I think that there's definitely some really weird things with psychedelics.
I've never tried DMT, but it sounds really interesting.
Sounds wild.
I've had some for a while that I'm like, I don't know what the fuck to do with this.
You do?
I would love to take it, but I'm like, at the same time, it launches you into another planet and you see elves and shit.
Just give it to me.
Andrew, how are the elves?
They're fucking awesome.
They taught me how to podcast better.
You'd be like, there's no elves, there's giants.
And you go fucking...
Oh no.
Jump out of a window.
If there were giants, that's fucked up.
If you did anything and there was just like a giant,
that would...
That's not a fun experience.
You'd be like, I'm out of here.
I went down a weird rabbit hole on Twitter
where I found myself looking at evidence that all mountains are actually just prehistoric giants
yeah what's the slight so what what's the micro what's the theory um i don't know the theory i
was just looking at hello pictures and like people show like satellite images and they're just like
faces in a lot of the mountains um yeah it looks like a chin
and a mouth and all that weird stuff yeah i've seen that before yeah and then like so earlier
we were talking about like how google google exists so with uh galani's uh story about the
hong kong man killing two people i can't find it you can't find it so um i don't know if it was
just like old legend or like an old wives tale that people would say.
Well, there's a lot of there's a lot of accounts like that.
But then you don't also know what else happened.
Like when I was in Bodega Bay for Fourth of July, maybe about three years ago, there was a guy that went crazy and that went all over the news.
And he was on LSD.
You know, did he drink or do something different you know i don't know uh and then for some some weird reason he like he took some of the drug he
was acting weird his friends recognized he was acting weird he wanted to take more shit and they
let him for some reason rather than like telling him
not to do it and then he did it and even though he wasn't like a physical guy in like stature he
still like kind of beat some of them up and like threatened them and got strange and like
kind of ran away and then he stole a car and he fucking like ran someone over it was crazy
he really hurt people he hurt himself i think he's uh paralyzed for life i
think and he used to be like a some google worker or something like that it was fucking weird but
as as far as i know i don't i don't think there was other drugs involved in those cases so it's
like man maybe it is a roll of dice sometimes and then they have said that if people have previous
mental health
issues, that's where you really got to watch out. And imagine somebody blending that with
like a pharmaceutical or a recreational drug of whatever. We kind of just, we don't really
even think about that. But what if somebody is on some previous medication and then they
take that shit? It's like, who the fuck knows what happens then?
Or familial mental health issues. Because like, I mean, again, in my family somewhere, there's
a little bit of schizophrenia and some of that can come about by doing psychedelics.
And even marijuana I've heard.
Yeah.
Well, that I, yeah, I know people and that has been reported.
Some people have said like oh yeah this person became
sparked it and it wasn't it wasn't that marijuana causes that for people but if you have an
underlying thing and you don't know and you do this shit too young you could go off the deep end
that's why this shit has to be respected like in that situation it makes you kind of wonder when
people look at that people be like see drugs are bad okay like of wonder when people look at that, people be like,
see,
drugs are bad.
Okay. Like that's what people look at.
But then you don't get the further story where like,
he just took the shit real liberally.
He's like,
he did some,
he was already off his fucking rocker and then he did some fucking more.
Yeah.
Right.
So it's like,
is that the drugs fault or is that the irresponsible use?
And I have a hard time believing that only LSD was at play.
So that's what I was going to say. Like being somebody
that seems like in the tech community
probably had access to a lot
of Adderall. Might have been doing
something else along with that.
But of course for headlines it looks really
good to say like man loses his shit
on LSD. I just like
the thing we saw with
military people you know taking performance
enhancing drugs they want to pin a death to like steroids and turns out the guy had pneumonia
doesn't appear that there's any connection uh at all to that but yeah they were the ones pinning
not him yeah right right it is just so funny how pharmaceuticals in terms of those types of drugs
they're just looked at as most especially when it's talked about media commercials, et cetera.
It's so beneficial for depression, so beneficial for this.
And then when it comes to things like mushrooms, marijuana, all that type of stuff, yeah, people can use it irresponsibly.
They do.
But there's still this total demonization of that type of stuff.
I would much rather do any of this stuff
before i put my hands on any type of antidepressant yeah you know i think a lot of the information is
changing and that's really cool and you know a lot of it is a lot of the information is probably
changing because big pharma is getting ready to like start making some of their own stuff
and so you're starting to see it like on nbc and cbs and the today show and it's like
they're just so slowly trickling it out there.
And like, oh, wow, this sounds like benefits.
Who would have thought?
It's helped people get over drinking and all these kinds of things.
I do think it's interesting, too, how it's all kind of worded.
And I do think there's informed ways of taking stuff.
But I also don't think that you particularly need like a doctor there per se.
Now, if you're somebody that has had previous issues with abusing drugs,
then maybe you would want somebody there to kind of distribute it out to you.
But I kind of think that people can take stuff if they are informed,
if they read about it,
if they listen to stuff about it and they can kind of investigate and see if
it's going to be something that works for them.
But I guess,
you know,
going into a medical situation,
you would also have the prior removal of the thing that is that you're trying
to get rid of like alcohol or something like that.
You know,
it's tough to even talk about this stuff sometimes because I always think about,
okay, there are aspects of when I smoke weed sometimes feels good.
Right.
But then, you know, I also know that this is not something I want to do every single
day.
This is not something I want to build a habit of.
I mean, I know people who they do that.
Then it's like, oh fuck, I got to smoke every morning.
Oh fuck, I need to smoke twice a day. of you know i know people who they do that then it's like oh fuck i gotta smoke every morning oh
fuck i need to smoke twice a day it's like you want people to use these as tools and get a benefit
from it and maybe change your perspective think of things differently and it benefits their personal
self-improvement but it's tough because when something feels so good like i love coffee i'm
addicted you know i'm actually addicted to coffee right Right. And it's so, so especially this stuff, it's like, how is the best way?
Cause it's not like we're teachers in this shit.
You know, we just talked about kind of some of the stuff we do just to make sure that
people want to dip their toes into this.
They know use this stuff, have it benefit your life, but also be very aware, including
creative.
I fucking love this shit. Be very aware how you're habitually using it and don't let it turn into something where all the time that you feel bad, you then have to turn to psilocybin, weed, Kratom, anything like that.
It's not a good idea if you're like, I left the house without it today.
Yeah.
That might not be great.
Yeah.
Or it can be something that you just kind of accept, like a caffeine addiction or something like that.
It just – you just have to kind of weigh out the risk to reward.
Like it doesn't appear that there's like some great risk with caffeine.
Having a couple cups of coffee, like just – I mean I'm sure that we we could i'm sure we could dig up studies that show
that it's negative yeah yeah um but for as many negative ones that we could probably show a bunch
that are positive and stuff too i've heard many people over the years say you know two to four
cups of coffee a day sounds pretty reasonable i don't know maybe that would negatively impact
certain people but if your sleep is good you your sleep, you're a very healthy person, you have a lot of healthy practices. One thing I would say is like, respecting all drugs is really important,
but also reinterpretation of drugs, I think is also important. Like what the fuck is alcohol?
Like alcohol, I like alcohol. I drink here and there. I enjoy it. I enjoy where it takes me. I
enjoy all that.
But a lot of other drugs do similar things.
They take you to spots that you otherwise can't get to.
I'm not super talkative under normal circumstances. Maybe after a run, maybe I had some kratom, maybe I just got done with a workout and I'm at the grocery store.
I'd be more likely to strike up a conversation with somebody then.
Otherwise, I need a drug to carry me into that spot.
And something like alcohol is great for that,
for a social setting.
So if I'm going to hang out with my wife,
not necessarily just her,
but like if it's her and her friends,
or if it's some family,
I'll have a drink or two
because it just makes it easier
for everybody to hang out with me.
Otherwise, I'm just sitting there like a fucking stiff,
being like, oh man, I wish I was working out right now.
Should I really be eating this?
Should you really be eating that?
You know, like I just am weird.
Oh, look at the time.
I got to get to bed because I got to wake up and run.
I got to go fucking myofascial release my calves and my hips.
Yeah.
That's why I dig the, well, like breath work for sure,
but also like the post- post workout high, right? Because if you could get that post workout high in a shiitake mushroom, which I guess you can't count, we would be taking it a lot more than it would be for like, you know, just going into the gym and actually earning it.
proponent of like the breath work because it takes me an hour to really get to like an awesome point you know like and the cold times and then so the cold plunge again also it's like there's a barrier
of entry but once you do it you feel amazing and it doesn't take long in that cold it literally
takes two or three minutes yeah you come out you get cold but then you feel fucking you do have to
make it past you do have to make it past like a minute you do have to make it past 90 seconds
yeah it does need to be in the two
to three minute range. Unfortunately, you gotta
hang in there for at least that. But
then you get sent off into like a little warp zone
and you're like, I made it. And you feel
incredible. But if you get out before then,
you're gonna feel like a chump.
Yes, you will feel demoralized.
You won't feel the benefits, I don't think.
I mean, not to say that you won't get the benefits,
but you won't feel them the same way. Yeah, so that's what I mean. They're almost like self-regulating, right? Like you won't feel the benefits, I don't think. I mean, not to say that you won't get the benefits, but you won't feel them the same way.
Yeah, so that's what I mean.
They're almost like self-regulating, right?
I guess you could overdo it, but in order to get that feeling that we love, we can't do too much of that.
Whereas if we drink too much, obviously, it's going to just lead down to a bad road.
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You know, the interpretation of these things is something that's super interesting because we know that, and we've talked about this extensively,
super interesting because we know that and we've talked about this extensively but we know that if you think that a certain food is going to do some really bad shit and you really believe that as
your it can have different effects on you because of your actual belief of what that does i know
like there there's some celebrities even rogan like he smokes copious amounts of weed right um
he's extremely successful and he doesn't view weed in like of any type of bad way
so potentially with some of this shit it's like if you don't attribute like negative and bad things
towards it other than alcohol because alcohol is literally poison but when it comes to something
like well alcohol is not it's not a plant you know it is there are things that you have to do
that you do need to realize with things like alcohol.
Like alcohol has been around for a really fucking long time.
Yeah.
And it's something that's helped us survive.
We used to not be able to drink the water.
So people would drink coffee and they or tea.
I even think that you had to have some sort of fucking boiled water or like.
Yeah.
Coffee came after.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
So you needed like something fucking filtered because you couldn't even drink our water so you had to go around
drunk all the time but also like when there ain't shit to do could you imagine like imagine if it
was like 300 years ago and all of us just had like a little a little thing of whiskey with us we would
like we would covet it right right? Like it would be,
you know,
and we'd be like,
Andrew,
fucking don't, don't drink that shit yet.
Like wait till we're done with the hunt,
you know?
And then you'd be like,
well,
why'd you take some,
you know?
Cause it helps steady my hand.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We'd be like,
are you,
I mean,
fuck man.
It's like,
you really,
you really needed it,
but alcohol is a poison.
It's not a plant.
Yeah.
And if you start to think about like,
um,
but it's got hops,
ibogaine comes from a tree bark, right? Like a lot of these things, they, they come from natural sources that are already here. LSD is I believe artificially made. Uh, so you know what I mean?
Like you, the more artificial something is, the more I think you should be like, I don't know how
much of that I want to get into. Absolutely. The alcohol thing is funny.
There's something that I've never tried and I have to.
It's this.
It's called palm wine.
Have you ever.
Do you know what palm wine is or have you ever had a chance to try it?
I've never had it.
Extremely popular in Nigeria.
They pretty much ferment the juices from like some coconuts on the palm trees and shit.
And palm wine has been drunk in africa for or
especially specifically nigeria for hundreds of years it's like people love that you have a little
extra something in there yeah it's it's alcohol it's like but but it's from a palm tree and they
ferment it and they make it like that but it's like this shit has yet it's been around for a
long time but but it's like i i think about i think about it like this. Like I could smoke a lot of weed and probably I'm going to be fine the next day.
I cannot drink a lot of alcohol.
The next few days I will feel like shit.
And that's not just because my perception of alcohol is that it's poison.
Don't get me wrong, guys.
I do drink every now and then.
because my perception of alcohol is that it's poison.
Like,
don't get me wrong guys.
I do drink every now and then,
but it's also because literally it's like the, the fun,
the things that it's doing to me is going to cause that despite me thinking
alcohol is great or not.
I'm going to have a hangover.
I'm going to feel like shit like that.
Just,
but it's different with other stuff.
It's different with plants.
Well,
and I think if you like alcohol enough and I think if you respect it enough,
I think that you could probably figure out a way to get the buzz and to creep around with that a little bit.
Just like people do with Coors Light and stuff like that, the lighter beers.
You just get enough of the alcohol.
You get enough of that kind of hit.
And then you can still kind of do a lot of your normal shit.
Did Casey roast you too?
Is that why you're saying that?
Yeah, he was telling us how to do it.
But even like a glass of wine
and then you're drinking water in between.
I mean, it's rare for people to respect it that much
to do all the other stuff in between.
But let's just face it, a buzz feels really good.
I think all three of us will admit.
Buzz feels fucking great.
It's like, how do you kind of like ride that out?
It's hard to kind of like have it last any significant amount of time.
If it starts to last a significant amount of time,
it means that you probably drank too much and you're on your way to getting drunk.
And then getting drunk, at least for us rookies over here,
it takes a lot of recovery.
And we don't want to waste the time with some of that.
But my point is, like, you know, I think it's important, like, not to stigmatize, like,
mushrooms and some of these other things that people are doing.
Just view them as being all very similar.
They all have a risk.
They all have a reward.
similar. They all have a risk. They all have a reward. And why not, like if you drink every weekend, why not view people that smoke, people that smoke weed and people that do mushrooms and
stuff, why not view them being like similar to you?
And I don't think that people do.
I think a lot of times,
I think sometimes people look down on people because they're like,
those people do drugs.
That guy's a pothead,
you know?
And it's like,
you're,
you're doing some,
I know that the,
the reaction is different. I know that the drug, the drug is different, but you're doing some – I know that the reaction is different.
I know that the drug is different.
But you're doing the same thing.
Yeah.
Like that person is looking for an escape or a release.
And I know we can view the plants as like not maybe the same escape as like alcohol.
I think alcohol kind of puts everything like on pause.
And I think that something like mushrooms makes you kind of go inward and not everybody wants to fuck with that work.
And that's why it's not as maybe not as not used recreationally as much because it's like it ain't always fun.
You don't always have control over like what ride you're going on when you take mushrooms.
Yeah.
But you know, the funny thing is on the other side of it, I don't blame people that look
at people who like have a knee jerk reaction to when somebody does talk about marijuana
because I know a lot of people who do use marijuana as an escape on a daily basis and
it's turned into that.
It's unfortunate.
It's too much.
They're an addict basically of marijuana.
And it's very unfortunate because you do see how it does slow down certain aspects of what
they're trying to do and how it's like they can't function well without it.
So I can totally understand how people look at marijuana and it's like, oh, it's bad.
Because again, most that use it don't respect it.
And that's why anybody who's listening,
we're just trying to say, please respect this shit.
You know, if you're listening to us,
at least you know that you got to respect it.
And you know if you're not too, like, you know who you are.
Right?
So that's tough.
Yeah, and then people, I mean, people do,
they take way too many mushrooms. They take way too many mushrooms.
They take way too many.
You can go off the deep end on any of them.
Yes.
It seems like you can utilize some of these things and you can enjoy them and you can reap the benefits.
Although sometimes when you take like a psychedelic, the trip that you go on, I know some people who are like, just kind of torn apart by like what
they saw or what they viewed or what they went through during a trip. And it's hard for other
people to like understand. I don't get it. I don't understand what people are talking about, but
it's almost like just going to therapy, but it's like you working with yourself.
I've said this before. It's like holding up a mirror in front of you,
you know, whereas alcohol is like, it's entertaining for the moment. It's, um, you know, again,
it's going to give you beer muscles. Maybe you'll talk to that girl or maybe you're,
maybe you'll dance or have conversation more so than normal, but mushrooms like, whoop,
like put a big fucking mirror up in front of you and you're like thinking that
everything is everybody else's fault and i don't know all the normal bullshit fucking thoughts
you have mushrooms like holding up a giant like it's it's fucking attached to your body this mirror
and you're like this is the fucking person i need to deal with every day i need to get past this and
over this i'm truly curious though about the strength benefits of crack because people always talk about how crackheads have some like
just have enormous strength and this isn't just like one report people are always like crackheads
are fucking strong like you need multiple people to detain them like they have that crack strength
so i'm just really wondering lt floren Florence Taylor I mean supposedly played a lot of his career
on crack
smoking crack
and if you're
like he was unblockable
he was unblockable
there's a play
I'll never forget
against the Jets
where three different people
tried to block him
and they just
didn't stand a chance
and then he just
fucking smashes
the quarterback
and I was just like
oh my god
I have no idea
if he was like high
during that moment or whatever but like dude that that is like the most insane football player maybe ever he was
morris taylor he was fucking awesome sugar ray leonard um he boxed for a really long time um
i believe on cocaine yeah i don't i don't even really know what crack is. Is LT. I don't know why that first still just made me laugh.
Don't smoke crack.
Oh, God.
He changed football forever.
He changed.
Really?
He changed the way that offenses lined up.
Yeah.
Because he was so fast coming off that edge.
No one could fucking slow him down.
How big was he?
Did he ever win a Super Bowl?
Yeah, he won a Super Bowl.
Yeah, he was six
probably six three or four making barry sanders fumble not a bad
yeah he was six three or six four and he was just so fast um they talked about like
damn you know the coach would talk about these assignments the defensive players had and he was
like i don't know anything about assignments i'm fucking going for the quarterback look at it
jesus christ he's intercepted the ball just ran 100 yards like it's nothing the defensive players had and he was like, I don't know anything about assignments. I'm fucking going for the quarterback. Look at it. Jesus Christ.
He intercepted the ball,
just ran 100 yards
like it's nothing.
He's running like he's on crack.
Yeah, you know what?
That is really interesting.
Like, what's the...
Did they test for that
in P.D.D.'s back then?
Probably not.
Probably not.
So many people probably did Coke and went to go play games.
Yeah.
That was definitely a thing.
The entire New York Mets when Darryl Strawberry was there.
Really?
Dude, they partied every game.
God.
Yeah.
In between innings, they would just pull chicks from the stands, take them in the locker room.
Like, dude, Darryl, we got to go.
Fuck.
Okay.
They just go smash in the locker room and come out and play.
Yeah.
It was a fucking party every game.
Dude.
Dude, people just be living like, I don't know.
If you really just think about what life is like.
Just think about what life is like.
Oh, my shit.
I got to rewind that.
Yeah, that was sick.
Oh, my God.
I'm going to let people watch that one, too.
She just jumped over the fucking running back.
Oh, I missed it. The running back's like, this is going to be great. I'm just let people watch that one, too. She just jumped over the fucking running back. Oh, I missed it.
The running back's like, this is going to be great.
I'm just going to chop block him at the legs.
I'll cut him down.
It won't be any big deal.
Uh-huh.
And it's like, whoa!
Oh, fuck.
Man, I'm happy my mom never let me play football.
It's too much of a man's sport for me.
That shit.
Those hits.
Too much. Jeremy Avila might be able to tell us a little bit more about it. man's sport for me. Those hits.
Jeremy Avila might be able to tell us a little bit more
about some of this stuff.
I'm curious. He knows.
Jeremy was
on drugs one day and deadlifting over 800
pounds
years later, I guess.
I wonder,
does it... It probably makes you feel invincible.
Yeah.
I've heard that about crystal meth and stuff too.
I think crystal meth supposedly does weird stuff like where if you see your own reflection, like you go towards it.
So it's very common for people on crystal meth to like break windows.
to like break windows.
There's somebody that like,
I think they supposedly bled to death because they kept trying to dig themselves
into like a shower,
like a drain or something.
Oh my gosh, that's terrifying.
Like their hands fucking,
you know what I mean?
Like how much strength
and how like strong
and how many neural pathways
do you have to override
to like not feel that pain of your hands?
Yeah.
I don't even know if that's true.
I think that's the one like where they think like bugs are under their skin.
And like that's why you'll see like holes in their face because they're like, I got to get this bug out.
I can't look at this anymore now.
Yeah, that shit's wild.
Oh, because you're looking at the shiitake mushroom.
Yeah, this one's exotic shiitake.
But how about this aging backwards stuff?
I think it's, we're bringing up Alon because Alon's an amazing person, but he struck a lot of, he just made us think of a lot of things from the conversation.
Now, there's a power bite that's out on the YouTube channel.
I think it's titled, This Will Help You Age Backwards.
There are a lot of people in the comments that were really in reverse age in reverse.
There are a lot of people in the comments that were really pissed.
They're like, this is clickbait.
You can't age in reverse.
I mean, I get that this is good stuff, but let's not call it aging in reverse.
But I think like, I truly think you can age in reverse because with a lot of stuff that we talk about, imagine if you're 30 years old and you haven't been exercising, you haven't been having good habits for your health, and you're aging the way that most Americans age.
Then you start exercising a little bit.
You start getting to sleep on time.
You build some strength.
You build some cardio.
You start eating better.
Jeff Bezos years ago, he didn't look so good.
I mean, not like he looks amazing now or whatever, but he's in good shape now.
And he was like maybe, fuck, I think maybe 15, 20 years ago.
He was like pudgy and just – he looked very unhealthy.
But don't mark.
He has billions of dollars.
Of course he can
do that right right right you know but but the thing is though like it's funny you mentioned
jeff bezos but he he also got jacked people are gonna say he's on drugs or whatever but
i mean i'd like to think even while he was already really wealthy his wife pointed out to him she's
like i guess he would eat like dinner rolls every morning or something weird.
Like, what the fuck?
I don't even.
Maybe he was just benching.
That sounds incredible.
I know.
Yeah, some bench rolls in the morning.
Dinner rolls for breakfast.
You know those Pillsbury ones that you put in the oven?
Yes, I know them.
Make the whole house smell amazing. Yes, I know them.
He would eat them every day.
And then he went to his wife.
He's like, I think I'm getting fat.
She's like, yeah, because you eat those fucking things. He he's like why didn't you tell me before yeah she's like i
thought you knew like because you're rich as fuck you brought up sagura though yeah tom sagura yeah
he's he's gotten in great shape too he's uh down to 213 pounds and years ago he was chubbing out a
little bit more i think he looked older you look at his early specials man
andrew can you pull up any video from like his look at his like specials in 2013 or whatever
okay he didn't look as good eight or nine years ago right yeah he looked older than he does now
like he really looks younger now you know and he probably feels better too is my assumption i don't
know but he probably feels better he said he's feeling awesome and he's motivated and he's excited and he's also sharing with me that he's not overly hungry either.
That's always a good sign.
When people are able to lose weight and manage their weight and they're reporting back to you that they're not super hungry and that the diet doesn't really feel hard, that's exactly where you want people to be.
Because it shouldn't be hard. It should be something that is fairly easy to maintain.
Yeah. And the funny thing is, pay attention to the way that some of your friends may talk about
aging. Because I have this really good friend of mine and he just sent me a video of this 30-year-old
or something woman and she went backwards and she hit her knee, right? And some part of it, the guy's commentary in the video is like, you know, when you get in your 30s,
things start breaking down, blah, blah, blah, right? As much as I understand that, I don't
believe it. I'm going to be 30 in a few days. But I'm feeling better and I'm getting stronger
because of all the habits that we continue to implement and all the things that we're doing
for ourselves on the show. I know that my 30 is going to be better than my 20s. And I'm going to be more vital. I
truly believe I'll be more vital in my 30s and 20s because I'm just going to continue trying to get
better with those habits. And if you implement those habits, you sleep, you get some form of
exercise, you move more, you're not sedentary, you change maybe your resting positions, these
little things over time, you can age backwards.
Set some goals for yourself.
Maybe they're just small.
Maybe you haven't even recognized that a lot of times when you go to get up out of a chair that you grunt and make weird noises
or you use your hands to push off your own thighs or when you go to sit down, you reach your hand back.
Those are really normal things when you're training hard and when you did legs day and your legs are exhausted or your back is really tight from doing a lot of deadlifts.
And you have to kind of support yourself sometimes just to get down on a seat or down to the toilet or whatever it might be.
But under normal circumstances, you shouldn't have to do that, especially when you're 30, especially when you're 40, especially when you're 50.
Now, if you're, you know, 85 or 90, maybe like maybe shit does start to get a little hard.
I don't know what it's like to be those ages.
So I guess I won't comment until I get there.
But you believe that you'll be good.
Yeah.
Pretty sure you're going to be good.
Yeah.
In the meantime, why not continue?
that you'll be good yeah pretty sure you're gonna be good yeah in the meantime why not you know continue if you're the right strength to weight ratio then you should never have to worry about
it ever if you're you know so i don't know about for enzima but like i don't plan to be this heavy
my whole life same you know at some point i'll continue to come downward i'll be 220 and 210
and probably at some point i'll be like 200 okay okay i'll be 199 point
215 that's all right 215 don't pull my man card just but no i've y'all remember that i wish we
could pull up i know we won't find it that video of like that fucking 80 year old african man
who was like still he had a six-pack oh yeah. And he was like. Yeah, on Instagram or whatever.
Yeah, he was lean.
He had a six pack and he was talking about,
yeah, I just never stopped doing work.
Like I wake up, I do stuff every day.
The thing is, is like, you'll really start to get old
when you stop using your body.
Like all the things we learned about, you know,
jumping and all these different abilities, sprinting,
you lose it when you stop, when you don't use it anymore so you can just figure out a way to make these capacities a
part of your life you don't have to lose it you don't have to lose your vitality chris kadowski
said there's no old people just old fascia now you know you can go as sciencey as you want with
that but you can kind of just think what what would make somebody other
than their age like what would make somebody look what would make somebody feel old forget about the
looks part of it what would make someone feel old to me it's like from what i'm observing from a lot
of people and this isn't for everybody because there's some people for some reason, it doesn't matter. They don't have to live under these same conditions, but
everyone's a little different. But like from what I've noticed for most people,
if they had some sort of practice of like a sport or they did some stuff when they were young
that had them continually demonstrating certain attributes, certain things physically.
And they didn't have a large gap between that and what they did as an adult.
Because I think a lot of times people, they stop learning when they get out of high school.
For other people, they stop learning when they get out of college.
The movement, why do people gain weight, you know, when they go to college?
There's like the freshman 15 or freshman 20 or whatever the hell happens, right?
Why do people gain weight when they go to college?
Because they used to play a sport.
They're not quite good enough to play in college anymore
or their luck ran out.
They got hurt or something like that.
They gain weight in college.
Now they're even more distant from movement.
Now you're 30, 40, and so on.
And there's more, there's more responsibility because
maybe you got married, maybe you have a child. And so you could say that there's more stress,
but if you have, again, if I'll use the strength to weight ratio, if you have a, if you have a,
if you have a, if you have a, if you have a strong,
I'm trying to find the words for it, but if you,
if you're able to mitigate the stress of life, the stress. Tools to mitigate that stress.
Some tools to mitigate that stress,
some tools to mitigate stuff that's coming your way.
It will just won't feel that hard.
I can see him and I were on a run today and some dude at
the end, like Stuart, he, he, he said he ran 27 minutes. My best ever that I ran at the Arboretum
in Davis is a 29, but he did 27 minutes and he was like, yo, what's up? Yeah. He was chilling
at the end of that. He was fucking chilling. was fucking chilling well why is that well because for him it just wasn't that stressful um and seaman and i would
need fucking cpr if we tried to run as fast as that guy was you wouldn't need cpr i'd need cpr
today we went on a run and i had to stop three or four times but i was it was fun it's your first
day day day one of that uh arboretum trail over there but
it goes to show you though like you can build tolerance towards stuff and so
just even watch the way that people talk hey man how's it going man just you know another monday
like you know um now kids are starting school back the fuck up dude your kids are starting school not you
you're not starting school you're fine if you were starting school i would let you get away with
if you're like man they're making me go back to school i'd be like fuck dude we're all screwed
that is that is kind of stressful i feel bad because uh so jasmine has like a couple after
school things to do now
so like today she's not going to get out of school till like 4 or 5 30 you know starting at like damn
near 8 and i was just like oh my god and i'm like i felt bad because i had the thought i was like
thank god that's not me yeah i would be fucked yeah there's no fucking way yeah she's screwed
but you're still okay yeah i'm like well all i gotta do is drop her off and pick her up we're
you already you already went through all that, you know?
But yeah, it's our mindset, the way that we talk about stuff,
and, you know, developing a habit to some fitness,
it does cost you a lot.
It's not easy.
But starting on a walk and starting on a run starting to lift some weights
and starting jujitsu and starting some of these things if you have them 10 years from now that is
the ultimate fucking anti-aging thing you'll ever find is the ability to be someone like a jason
kalipa who jason kalipa can do hit training training. He can go run five miles.
He's at Masters Worlds right now doing jiu-jitsu.
Having that skill set, and his children are learning the same skill set.
Like go on his page.
Go on Jason Kalipa's page and watch.
His daughter's like running with him.
His son's doing squats with him.
It's really cool.
When you have an ability to go in the gym and power lift to go in the gym and
olympic lift to go in the gym and do sprints on a bike to go outside and go on a hike when you
start to develop this capacity and it's really broad spectrum well now you can go on anything
with anybody somebody says hey you want to go on a bike ride you'd be like yep you want to go on a
hike you can be like yep you can go and do anything
and you don't have to spend all this time in the gym and you don't have to spend all this time and
money on anti-aging whatever the fuck bullshit thing you can just simply work on being physical
and developing more skills with that and you think dreay you think dray's ever gonna look old kettlebell skills
you know what's so funny man okay you know what i think too i think there's uh and some people
are gonna be you're bullshitting sema people have to say black don't crack right and people have
said that for so long that like i think i also believe it right like i'm not gonna get old
right but i think that i think that white people can age better if they believe they could age But I think I also believe it, right? I'm not going to get old, right?
But I think that white people can age better if they believe they can age better.
No, I think aspects of that is because –
Everyone can age better.
Everyone can age better.
Everyone has ability.
That was a little joke.
But at the end of the day, some people think that just white people don't age well because they're white or whatever.
But if you take –
No, white people don't do a very good job we're like man black people got their awesome genetics so we're just going to be
over here fucking being an accountant or some shit oh man no but no i could see that change
you know just with like social media and people like literally starting to care more about skin
like like i could legit see like moisturizers and shit becoming more popular
for dudes because like you've been pushing that on us for a long time i still don't do it but
fuck dude maybe that's well and you're like your physical look is one thing but like
if you don't feel old you won't look old yes and maybe you'll look a little older at certain points
in your life um but like for me
like what if i what if i stay the same for the next 10 years you know what i mean that that's
kind of stuff that i look at like i'm not really concerned with a couple things uh looking a little
you know a little different than when i was 25 i mean people have said that to me about like bigger
stronger faster like when the movie got like popular like several years
after it was out they're like man you look a lot older and i was like it's 15 years later like i
don't think you realize how long ago that was filmed you know and like i don't know there's a
lot of factors in there but i've seen a lot of people say you're looking younger than right at
least people that watch the show when they look at you versus like when you were heavier a few years ago, people have been saying you look younger, and you do.
And I feel younger.
I feel awesome.
Yeah.
I think for myself, days where I am experiencing shit in my – sensations in my back, I think those days, yeah, I could look in the mirror and be like, dude, you got to do something.
Whether it's shave or something, because I look like I'm wearing wearing it on my face and so i think you guys are right like if
you're not feeling like you're old then you probably won't wear it on your face and then you
won't you know develop a frowny face and then you know you won't develop wrinkles and shit like that
this is one thing i think is pretty interesting like for example i know my feet are younger
because like i've never like i'm we're doing of us, like people see us fidgeting and shit behind the desk because we're doing stuff with our feet all the time.
But I've never been able to toe spread like this before.
My feet have never looked this strong before.
My feet are definitely younger than they were because we're working on this shit.
So there are so many different things that you can work on, you can improve at, you can continue to develop that.
Yeah.
And please moisturize.
You know, one thing that's interesting is like in my house and in all other black houses I know, lotion and moisturizer is a normal thing.
And it's just like that's something that's kept into adulthood.
is a normal thing and it's just like that's something that's kept into adulthood if you're a black person that doesn't use lotion or moisturizer number one you'll have ashy elbows
and knees and people will roast the fuck out of you so that's why you don't see that often
right but i think that's part of why when some of these men and women get to 50 60 years old
they say don't crack you don't crack because we use moisturizer. Moisturizer is part of the culture.
I just believe that I don't need it.
So that you're already there.
Oh, man.
And there, I mean, it's probably to help sell more products,
but there is little proof that some of the stuff that's in moisturizer
is supposed to actually really help.
I'm sure there's like shit that's dangerous in there just as well, just like there is in makeup
and whatever else.
Do some more of the natural stuff then,
but moisturize.
I'm just going to use special effects
and wait to just build out a sick avatar.
Hey, would you fuck with Botox?
There have been a lot of guys.
Would you guys fuck with Botox?
Trying to normalize Botox?
Yeah, Andrew Schultz apparently got some Botox done.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Andrew Schultz got botox
done so have a lot of other guys um is that something what do you guys think about that
i don't think there's anything wrong with it yeah i just would for me i wouldn't i think like uh
i don't know i think getting a little older is cool i think it's all right how about you yeah
i think i think dudes age well um like you know i forgot what oh knocked up she's like as i get older i look crappier i
look uglier as he gets older he gets more handsome and um you know like it's funny because like my
dad and i if you look at pictures of us at like similar ages we look extremely similar so i'm like
well that's what you have to look forward to and she's like your dad's very handsome i'm like all
right cool then i'll have to worry about it i remember at your wedding when i first ever saw your dad's head i'm
like god damn that's so funny that's andrew's head yeah yeah no i ain't tripping like even
like craze and stuff in my beard like i'm looking forward to it like i'm not worried about it at all
but that's that is one of the i think leon Leonardo DiCaprio has apparently been catching some fire because he does the constant – like he switches them out at 25, right?
Oh, got it.
Always, yeah.
He switches out his Botox?
He switches out his ladies at 25.
Yeah.
But –
That's funny, by the way.
The cultural thing of like guys getting better as they're older and having more options as they get older and women, it's tougher.
It's just like, that does suck.
I do find that that sucks for ladies.
Guys a lot of times aren't that developed, you know, like mentally.
I mean, not so much physically, but mentally.
You know, I think about myself when I was 25.
It's just like I was nowhere.
I was lucky to meet somebody at that age.
Very lucky.
The benefits are like, i can't think of the
right word but it's um it's front loaded for women and and rightfully so for men to be back
loaded because like right if we had i don't know plenty of options early on we'd fuck it up that's
not good you know like we'd yeah it wouldn't be good it wouldn't be good so i think it's uh
nature played out the way it was supposed to.
Yeah.
What do you think?
We take this one in for a landing?
Do we have anything else?
I thought we had another thing.
You had something with Andrew Tate?
Oh, we got to reel that one in for another.
Yeah, Andrew Tate being kicked off all platforms.
I think that's interesting in and of itself.
But we'll end this here. We want to know you guys think about the the topics we talked about today
and join the discord because i will uh we're you know to find the shiitake
mushrooms you can cook that are totally natural non-drugs um go to the discord it tastes like
pumpkin seeds i'm surprised you guys don't catch that. I don't get the pumpkin. Yeah, you eat way more pumpkin seeds.
I don't remember the last time I've had pumpkin seeds.
Me neither, but.
All right, well, we're going to get out of here, but.
And I am sent right now.
If, yeah, you had a lot of, you had a lot of shiitake mushrooms.
I kind of sense it.
Take us on out of here.
All right.
Thank you everybody for checking out today's episode.
In the comment section, if you guys know what shiitake mushrooms we're talking about, let
me know if you guys think they taste like pumpkin seeds for a because to me they do by the time
this actually episode comes out everyone's gonna know what happened jason kalipa but his first match
he won oh shit 17 to 0 meaning his opponent did not score a single point on this man
does that happen often it happens if you're good oh Oh, shit. Okay. It happens when you're good.
But yeah.
Hell yeah.
Way to go, Khaleef.
Let's go.
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Zima, where you at?
Discord.
Join the Discord,
guys.
Because the shiitake
mushrooms are kicking in.
This mic feels...
Sing for us.
Let's see what we can
get him to do.
That's how close
I need you to the mic
on a regular basis.
Just like fucking...
You sound so clean.
Oh, Andrew, read that... Read that post that you sent us earlier. Oh, what's the post? close i needed to the mic on a regular basis just like fucking you sound so clean oh andrew read
that uh read that post that you sent us earlier oh it's supposed to be sloppy so i gotta i gotta
make sure like because i i sound like it was from graham tuttle i'm i'm i'm new to this subreddit
and i don't want to put them completely on blast yeah but uh especially during like when i when i
had my vasectomy and i
couldn't do anything i just like fuck around and read shit online and i stumbled upon this subreddit
and so they have like a anything goes daily chat thing okay i'll probably ask in there if it's cool
if i shout them out on air because again i don't know because they talk a lot about illegal stuff
but um uh somebody said uh you guys ever get frustrated with how a chick gives head and
and think about how you could do such a better job if you were gay
i could do such a better job yeah i'd be like wait what he goes on to say like i'd be competitive
about how far down my throat I could get that dick.
Competitive.
Gagging and crying and shit.
It's a real shame I'm not gay, actually. I'd give the dirtiest, sloppiest, best blowjob you ever got.
Yeah, you got to have the makeup that runs and everything.
You don't want the waterproof stuff.
Yeah, plug that.
Get those effects.
Nah, real talk, I can give some sloppy talk.
Real talk.
I'd be good at that shit.
I don't even think I have a gag reflex.
No gag reflex. I'm good.
What a man.
I also want to shout out my girl because she gives
i love her and i'm very content so thank you babe love you
just to prove a point just be competitive this could be competitive up in here
join the discord guys in suma in yang and see me on instagram youtube that was fucking funny This could be competitive up in here. Join the Discord, guys. At Nseema Inyang.
Nseema Inyang on Instagram, YouTube.
That was fucking funny, Andrew.
Nseema Inyang on TikTok and Twitter.
Mark.
You guys are gross.
I'm at Mark Smiley Bell.
Strength is never weakness.
Weakness is never strength.
Catch you guys later.
Bye.