Mark Bell's Power Project - Do These Things BEFORE Starting BJJ || MBPP Ep. 836

Episode Date: November 14, 2022

In this episode, Mark Bell, Nsima Inyang, and Andrew Zaragoza talk about starting Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and some of the things you should do before stepping foot on the mats.  New Power Project Website: https://powerproject.live Join The Power Project Discord: https://discord.gg/yYzthQX5qN Subscribe to the new Power Project Clips Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UC5Df31rlDXm0EJAcKsq1SUw Special perks for our listeners below! ➢https://www.naboso.com/ Code POWERPROJECT for 15% off! ➢https://thecoldplunge.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save $150!! ➢Enlarging Pumps (This really works): https://bit.ly/powerproject1 Pumps explained: https://youtu.be/qPG9JXjlhpM ➢https://www.vivobarefoot.com/us/powerproject Code: POWERVIVO20 for 20% off Vivo Barefoot shoes! ➢https://markbellslingshot.com/ Code POWERPROJECT10 for 10% off site wide including Within You supplements! ➢https://mindbullet.com/ Code POWERPROJECT for 20% off! ➢https://eatlegendary.com Use Code POWERPROJECT for 20% off! ➢https://bubsnaturals.com Use code POWERPROJECT for 20% of your next order! ➢https://vuoriclothing.com/powerproject to automatically save 20% off your first order at Vuori! ➢https://www.eightsleep.com/powerproject to automatically save $150 off the Pod Pro at 8 Sleep! ➢https://marekhealth.com Use code POWERPROJECT10 for 10% off ALL LABS at Marek Health! Also check out the Power Project Panel: https://marekhealth.com/powerproject Use code POWERPROJECT for $101 off! ➢Piedmontese Beef: https://www.piedmontese.com/ Use Code POWER at checkout for 25% off your order plus FREE 2-Day Shipping on orders of $150 Follow Mark Bell's Power Project Podcast ➢ https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast ➢ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ https://www.facebook.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/mbpowerproject  ➢ LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/powerproject/ ➢ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/markbellspowerproject ➢TikTok: http://bit.ly/pptiktok  FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢https://www.tiktok.com/@marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ https://www.breakthebar.com/learn-more ➢YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/NsimaInyang ➢Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/?hl=en ➢TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nsimayinyang?lang=en  Follow Andrew Zaragoza on all platforms ➢ https://direct.me/iamandrewz Stamps: 0:00 - Naboso Neuro ball 2:04 - Check out powerproject.live 5:03 - Combining BJJ & gym 7:27 - Why Andrew started Jiu-jitsu 11:52 - BJJ helps in self-defense 15:02 - How to start & what to know 17:09 - BJJ improves body awareness 17:55 - Nsima's on initial days of Jiu-jitsu 19:47 - Andrew's Jiu-jitsu experience 23:36 - First month of training Jiu-jitsu 26:26 - Hip rotation range of motion in BJJ 28:38 - Choose a BJJ training partner wisely 33:28 - BJJ training tips for beginners 35:38 - Mark's early wins from running 39:04 - How Long does it take to get the hang of Jiu-jitsu 43:29 - Clip: Dustin Poirier vs Brian Shaw 46:41 - Always learning new things in BJJ 49:19 - BJJ positions 52:07 - Importance of breathing in BJJ 54:50 - Slingshot products 56:20 - Meeting Halle Berry at UFC event 59:56 - Is Andrew able to lift? 1:02:16 - Balance weight training & BJJ 1:04:33 - Low expectations is the key 1:06:02 - Determine the correct stimulus 1:10:09 - BJJ body transformation 1:13:50 - BJJ Workout to build stamina 1:16:47 - Prevalence of injuries during BJJ 1:20:56 - Find a perfect BJJ school for you 1:25:26 - BJJ hygiene & Good gi brands 1:28:29 - Mouth guard for BJJ 1:30:41 - Jiu-jitsu kisses 1:33:46 - TIP: Carry Wet wipes during BJJ 1:35:06 - Like, share, subscribe, comment, follow the podcast 1:35:50 - Smelly's tip 1:38:29 - Outro #BJJ #StartingBJJ #PowerProject #Podcast #MarkBell #FitnessPodcast #markbellspowerproject

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Yeah, we are now. Guys, we're going to talk about. Who fucked up with the camera? Hold on. Go ahead. Is it the one that I broke when Bill Maeda was here? No. Well, I guess so.

Go ahead. But actually, we should pull up our boy Tyler. We had him on the podcast a bit ago, but he's a savage. I saw him. He was like in some of that bodybuilding movie or show. He was- A Generation Iron thing? It was something you mentioned to me recently, and then I went to check it out, and he was

on there. What's that show called? Netflix? He was on that? what's that show called uh netflix he was on that oh fuck yeah yeah uh it was like something bodies or um let me i texted it to you guys i cannot remember what the hell it was called but there's a very cool netflix show that you guys should check out it has has like a bunch of human something. Human suffering? No, not human suffering. God damn it.

This doesn't help our case. Retention, retention, retention. But anyway, he was in it. Please help us get through this weird lull by hitting the like button. Because we're going to need it really bad right now. Also, if you guys are interested in what Mark's wearing right there

or what I'm wearing right here, I don't know if these are up on the site yet, but powerproject.live for the microdose tee and the think less hoodie. And a sick ass color. And you're going to tell them

about the purple G string that you're wearing too. That banana hammock. That looks great. Strength is never weakness. Weakness is never strength. I did not think that was going to fit on That banana hammock. That looks great. Strength is never weakness. Weakness never strength. I did not think that was going to fit on the front, but you did a great job.

It's because I have a small dick. But this micro devil pussy mug is also there. See us sipping out of this or I'm more so sipping out of it. I need to get me one. I still have one. You guys know somebody? Yeah, we know a guy. I actually don't know how to get one.

You got to go on the website. I know. But then, yeah, no, there's a couple hoops I got to jump through. What the fuck was that show called? Camera. Okay, so what? Are you talking about the one where they used road rage as a thing or no? That's what that murder, that bodybuilding murder thing.

I haven't watched that yet. It's like Sally whatever. Yeah, that's the one. Yeah, we actually need to finish that. You It's like Sally, whatever. Yeah. That's the one. Yeah. We actually need to finish that. You guys should check that out too. I'm talking African wet wrestling Netflix. What the fuck?

Senegalese wrestling. African wet wrestling. Okay. Not wet. Senegalese wrestling is a form of grappling that's like big in Senegal, but they had this on that show and I'm about to find the name. But Tyler was in it. He was, yeah.

He was like, they had a couple bodybuilders that were in wheelchairs. And then I was like, I bet you Tyler's in here. Sure enough, there he was. He's in there being all fucking jacked and everything. See what happens when you come on the Power Project. That's right. And get your own Netflix show for documentary. Human Playground?

Human Playground. There you go. That's what it's called. Oh, yes. Human Playground. That's what it's called. Yeah, that's what it's called. Human Playground.

Kaboom. Damn, which episode was he in? I don't know. Whoever the one has bodybuilding in it, I'm the only one I saw. That's so cool, though.

He was on Netflix. Mark's like, like wait there's episodes can you pull wait pull up tyler so people can see what the fuck we're talking about he ended up changing his name i know because probably someone got pissed it used to be black belt bodybuilding cripple but there's probably someone who was like that's not kosher you know you can't you can't say that he had to change it up well that's good i remember i reached out to you i'm like like, hey, is he cool? Because he changed it to cripple

and I'm like, um... Like, hey, is our boy doing well? Nah, Tyler's just that kind of dude. Black belt bodybuilding. Tyler, like, he used to tap me out so much when I was a white belt, even a blue belt. Damn. I was like,

this guy is fucking me up. And he weighs 130 pounds. Wow. Tyler's ridiculous. Y'all should check out his IG. Because his pressing strength is so ridiculous. And we also did a podcast with him, which was really fucking dope.

Yeah. He's the man. He is awesome. So Andrew is just getting his feet wet with some jujitsu and i think that's a good thing to kind of center in on for today you know people getting started with stuff and then also like i don't know like how beat up you get and should you lift should you run should you chill should you and can you do anything simultaneously to improve it or you just got to like sit and wait and is the only cure to get on the mats as often as your body can handle yeah i'm trying to navigate that now

i do it's so weird it's the worst feeling ever because like on the days that i don't go to jiu-jitsu i feel like a total piece of shit for not training but that day i am like i feel like a total piece of shit for not training. But that day I am like, I feel like my body has trained harder than I ever have because I'm so sore. So I'm like, maybe I'm waiting. And this is probably not the best approach, but like I'm waiting for the soreness in the body to kind of get acclimated to the new stimulus,

which I have a feeling will probably never officially happen just because jujitsu, there's so many variables. It will happen. But you know what I mean? They're like, I'm always going jujitsu, there's so many variables. It will happen. But you know what I mean though? Like I'm always going to feel like, Oh dude, I'm whatever happened,

my neck and shoulder are kind of like a little tender today or something. But as far as like my body's like energy level, like I'm kind of waiting for that to happen because like even today's Sunday, like I feel way better than I have the past like two weeks. So that's already way different. Cause like, like this Friday, I was like an actual person. The Friday previous, I wasn't turning yellow like the other Friday, but I was like, I was just wrecked. You know, I was like a zombie. And then this Friday, I was like, hmm, I feel pretty good because I listened to Casio's advice,

in which basically he was kind of explaining like for an open mat session of like six minutes I'm just going all out for that six minutes because it's like you know the timer's going down and I have this much energy for that whole thing but he was like oh well imagine you were going to go for two hours then you'd probably slow down like that makes a lot more sense and because I don't know shit well I mean I know a couple things here and there but like the technique and the skill isn't there so it's like why am I in such a huge hurry to do nothing like how about I try a couple things or try to just escape do whatever I can to survive and then move on and learn the next thing instead of like oh I know this one this one arm bar from the bottom

and I'm just going to keep fighting forward until I get it. Why'd you decide to start jujitsu? Oh man, numerous reasons. Uh, I'll try to try to summarize it as quick as possible. Uh, there was, um, just a couple of guests all in a row that just kept based without telling me directly, they were yelling at me that I need to start right and this happens often where like you know we'll get a string of guests that comes in it's like they keep saying the same thing over and over that hits me in the head i'm like okay fuck uh i mean you've always been preaching that i need to get into it so that's definitely a part of it uh so there was bedros talking about like neutralizing the guy on the plane that said he's going to kill everybody including his family

so that was freaking huge um truck the motherfucker, that's freaking cool. So there's the family aspect and self-defense. Of course, that's definitely there. Uh, what was, Oh, Mark, you were talking to your son, Jake, and you're, I think you guys were at like a concert or something. And you're like, look at all these people I've lifted more than all of them. You know, everybody here, I've lifted way more. And if you get proficient at jiu-jitsu, he's like, you can hold your own against everybody here. Right. And I'm like, oh, like, that's so cool.

You can feel really safe. I mean, you know, if there's like a brawl, there's not much you can do about that because there's so much mayhem, so many people fighting. But if somebody confronts you, you can protect yourself. Yeah, absolutely. So there's 100% that confidence, again, feeling comfortable, self-defense.

But then my son, you know, like I want him to do jujitsu. And if he's anything like me, then he has to like watch dad do it first or he has to understand that like this is safe and it's effective. Kind of like with our exercise, like we're probably not going to have to tell him to exercise or move. Yeah, your dad's a mechanic and you're into cars. Exactly. So it's like he sees us moving, so he's going to have to tell him to exercise or move because your dad's a mechanic and you're into cars exactly exactly so it's like he sees us moving so he's going to move if he sees me do jiu-jitsu he's probably going to do jiu-jitsu that's my hope so my son was kind of like the last really really big straw for me to get into it and then of course like the confidence and all that stuff but like doing something like that i've never done before so like i did muay thai for a tiny a tiny

tiny bit which was fun but it was like hitting mats and stuff. Like sparring was just like, oh, we're going to do leg checks and shit like that. It wasn't anything serious. So the thought of having a dude on top of me or maybe on top of another dude trying to like neutralize him was like so foreign to me. But because of that, I'm like, dude, what the fuck happens when shit hits the fan? You know, like what happens if I do need to protect the family and I got nothing, you know, and it's just like mono e-mono, you know, I'm like, what am I going to do? Like, be like, oh, I can do a podcast really, really well. Please don't, you know, murder us. So you can probably just prevent a fight from happening. Right. Because I think sometimes, I mean, there's people

that are dumb, but like usually people can kind of read you know if you and i were like to square off and i for some reason was mad at you and then i saw how confident you were i would probably be like you're lucky he's holding me back and why is this guy so calm right now yeah i would be like yo i'm i'm cool i'm cool i'm actually mad at that other guy over there. Yeah. And then the whole like, you know, like the fight or flight thing. Like if I know nothing, it's like, I'm going to be really paranoid and like sporadic if somebody comes after me. But if I know something, maybe I can like diffuse the situation, right? Like I don't have, I like, because I know I could neutralize it. Maybe I understand that like, I can like talk somebody out of something, right? Just because I have the confidence for it and again the demeanor of like showing that like I'm not really afraid of you like that's very

important so the confidence uh basically uh again I am the youngest in my family so my immediate family and one of the youngest were like amongst all my cousins and stuff and growing up you know you guys know like I talked about like how skinny I was. And so getting picked on, like kind of getting bullied here and there without really like, you know, taking it too serious. I try to laugh stuff off. But like I was never like, what's the word? Not, not, not feared, but like, because I wouldn't want to be feared, but like nobody would take me serious if like, you know, something broke out or if I got mad, you know?

Nobody would take me serious if like, you know, something broke out or if I got mad, you know? So again, just kind of understanding and knowing how to handle myself and how to handle someone else if shit hit the fan. Like it's very, very important. I think a lot of dudes should have that just so that way when stuff does happen, they're not scared or freaked out or, you know, pulling out a gun or a weapon or something or relying on that and really, really hurting somebody and themselves and their own family. So all of the above is really kind of was what got me into jujitsu. It's also why it's great to have the ability to run. Let's be real. Yes. That was another thing. Remember I was talking about that, like how crappy it would be if like, I couldn't run to save my son, you know, pull the hamstring or something. Not just run to save your son, run pull the hamstring or something not just run to save your son run the fuck away like if someone's stupid enough

like okay if you're out with your family that's a different case you're not just gonna run away but if somebody is gonna step if somebody came up to me and was like motherfucker what's up what's up i'd be like sprint the fuck away like uh because like again if someone is confident enough to come up to you they They know something you don't know. They may have a weapon. They might have somebody watching across the street. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I've had a weapon pulled on me before.

Luckily, nothing happened. But people are crazy out here. But if it does come to the case where somebody is stupid, they're belligerent or whatever, and you need to put them down, jujitsu is one of the safest ways to do it. Because if you strike somebody and they hit the ground, you can fuck them up. But if you can choke them, and there's a lot of people, there's so many videos of people quelling down a situation because they knew how to grapple somebody.

It's really odd, too, because all of a sudden there's rules. All of a sudden a guy will tap. And there's usually another buddy there who's like, no, my friend's gonna break your arm yeah like are you good and they're like oh yeah and then they finally tap but i've seen that like with leg bars or knee bars and leg locks and different things and it's like it's like when were there ever rules in like these fights but now they're kind of are because you don't know who you're gonna be tanglingling with. Yeah. And it was the same deal actually when I started because like I have always been big, right?

But I never really like, I knew if, okay, if something did happen, I could probably defend myself kind of. But if something really did happen, I really didn't have the skill to do that. I was just a big dude. So luckily no one was really going to try to step to me. But there is a confidence aspect now because I'm not going out looking for fights. I'm actually the calmest I've ever been. But if somebody did, and if I had to fight somebody, I'm very confident I would have no issue dealing with almost anybody.

It is funny what you said, Mark, about like rules. Cause it's like two, two, uh, like we'll say like two kids in the schoolyard or start fighting. Everyone's all down and watching and they see the little kid and they see the bigger kid and all of a sudden, the little kid puts him in the arm bar. Then everyone's like, oh, wait, wait, you're going to break his arm. What are you doing?

Hold on. But two seconds ago, you guys were like, oh, we're going to see this kid get knocked the fuck out. And then now it's like, oh, wait, you have a superpower. Like, okay, nevermind.

Now it's not fair. If you rip someone's ACL, I mean, that's expensive. It's an expensive trip to the hospital. That's maybe a compromised life. You don't know. Maybe you apply something and it tears a lot of stuff in the guy's knee rather than just one ligament or something.

Then you get sued. Then there's that, right? It's getting away or trying to run away or something. I mean, those are good options. I think having the confidence, you know, we talk a lot on this show about having a capacity and it's really just a wonderful thing to have a capacity to be able to feel like you're proficient in, you know, any of these situations that you might run into. I think one of the tough things when you're trying to learn some of these things is sometimes people don't know how to start

or where to start. What gym do I go to? How do I know if an instructor's good? But a lot of those things can be, if you're paying attention and you listen to people, like you said, multiple times, it's kind of get mentioned to you, mentioned to you, mentioned to you. Then you just think like, if you, if you're paying attention and you listen to people, like you said, multiple times, it's kind of get mentioned to you, mentioned to you, mentioned to you. Then you just think like, well, what's a place I'll actually go to? Like, what's something that's close to me? So

then you find something that's close-ish to you, find something you're comfortable with. Maybe somebody out there that's listening, maybe they live in the middle of the country and maybe there's not tons of jujitsu everywhere. Maybe they have to do it in the back room of a gym for a little while until they find a better location or better instructor. But some start is better than none. And we know like just get started. I don't I'm not really still that interested in jujitsu, but it will click in at some point. I know that I'll be down with at some point. But like if you look back at that clip of when I was doing stuff with jason that was like six years ago

so imagine even if i just did it like once or twice a week pretty casually since that time period i would probably be decent at it at this at this point right so absolutely so you know and and uh you know i'm on day 68 of running and 68 days ago i was less proficient at running you can do something special tomorrow i think so i might call you up you know i'm saying mark don't say it on air oh yeah i thought andrew was supposed to bleep it out we're live i can't bleep it out these deadly moves by me look at this this is something to be feared lock it in it's so funny

because I don't even still I don't even know if I have somebody like in an actual hold and then I'm like wait like how much pressure do I like the guy's elbow seems like it's kind of extended already like and then the guy's not tapping but then you're like I don't I'm new so i don't know what i'm doing yeah but also and oh go ahead i'll just say yeah the body awareness you know like um whether it's like a what is it like when you're

they're like this and you're like arm choke hold or something had an arm choke there you go see i don't know the lingo still and all the terms but like i was like i think it's in i'm not sure and i'll keep cranking and cranking and like no it's definitely not in and then like the training partner or somebody would be like dude it was right there and i'm like fuck you know so like what you told me like sometimes you gotta just like have a good poker face and like don't let them know like oh shit he's about to tap me but if i keep it cool then you know i'll be all right but like i'm still at that stage where like somebody's going for something on my key and i'm like, stop that, stop that, stop, stop, stop. I don't know what you're doing, but stop it. And then they're like, oh, we're just fucking with you. I'm like, okay,

cool. Thanks. But yeah. So I sent you a video and it was like, I think one of my first days of jujitsu. It's that video where like that black belt that was half my size, fucked me up many times. And he did that many times for months on end. that was half my size, fucked me up many times. And he did that many times for months on end. But one of the things with jujitsu is that a lot of people wonder, you know, what do I need to do before I start? And we talked about it when Jason was here. If you're interested in starting jujitsu, just start jujitsu, but be kind with yourself. And you can scroll through. It's like, I just wanted to point out, like, look at your yeah my feet are so different that's that's some 265 pound feet first off um but also yeah dude look at that little pinky i'm so happy you have this up because like i don't have any old

videos of my feet yeah but the toe spread i have the tendon thickness i have now the tendon thickness we all have now i mean even look at at like your big toes kind of looking away from the other big toe. And now that's definitely not the case. Yo, guys. That's cool. Start getting on that feet. That's another thing too with jujitsu is not that you weren't in great shape already, but it helped get you leaner, right? Oh, yeah, yeah.

Over the years. It helped your metabolism a lot. Yeah. That wasn't old and bad for 265. Okay. Um, but yeah, yeah. Over the years, I think it took me about, I wasn't even trying to lose weight when I started jujitsu, but I started at 265 and for the past shoot since around 2017, I've been around the same weight 250, 240, 250 but my body composition has continued to get better year by year

but what I was going to mention was like you should just go in and start because there's no level of like Andrew you've been doing go to stuff which has actually prepared you well because it's a lot of mobility but there's really nothing that's going to prepare you for all the different types of

ranges of motion that your body gets into. Like, Andrew, you have fresh experience on that and people can understand and hear some of that. Yeah. Did you want to play this video or you want me to go into that? You don't even need to play the audio side of it. I'll just let it run. Yeah, just let it run. I just get tapped a few times.

Yeah. So, like, right away, like the mat burn on my feet, like it was so bad the first night or yeah, first night that I couldn't even walk like the next day. It was so strange. I'm going to put a post on my Instagram eventually, but like, I also had this like weird, like contusion thing on my like shin knee where it looked like I was growing another knee. Yeah. And I'm like, what the fuck is that? Like, I didn't even remember.

And that's the thing. I don't remember any of it. I just looked down and I'm like, Oh it's all there you know so uh the mat burn and the the the feet stuff is initially like the first thing that felt just awful because you know it's like second degree burns on your feet on the top of your feet um but uh other than that uh I mean not other than that but also uh my hands you know especially now with the geese like I'm getting cuts on my hands, you know, especially now with the geese, like I'm getting cuts on my hands just from death gripping too much. My fingertips and my fingernails, my toenails. I got a toenail that's black still because it like, I don't know, it bent my nail up and back and like it got bloody.

And now the blood's just kind of sitting there under the nail, which looks kind of cool, but it doesn't hurt. So that's great. which looks kind of cool, but it doesn't hurt. So that's great. Uh, but the thing that I think is the biggest, um, yeah, the biggest surprise has been my knees because I did have tendinitis in junior high also. Like I had Osgood slaughter, but yeah, it's just, I wasn't, yeah, I just wasn't like after eighth grade, I wasn't very active. So it wasn't like that big of a deal. Um, but since then I haven't really had any new issues of any kind. Like I've been pretty good. My right knee will kind of swell up from time to time, but it's not bad. Yeah. However, in jujitsu being in like that position that you're in right there, trying

to get me on knee and belly. So trying to get your knee to his, you know, belly basically is like where I'm trying to live. And I've never been so compressed while trying to push out on that knee, nor have I been on my knees and trying to get my knee down somewhere so fast. Like Cassio was like, you know, you're trying to like really stomp the ground with your knees. Like you don't have to do that, but I am doing that. So the physical touch of my knee really freaking hurts. And then I think it has something to do with the uh is it called the ql angle the q angle of my knee so like my thighs go in and then it hits my knee and then it goes out yeah so when i have somebody in guard i think it's like pushing out against my knees okay so

it's almost like it's correcting it so i'll just get random aches there throughout the day now yeah and i don't know if that's what it's from or what oh man but so my knees have been like the biggest thing where i'm like oh shit like i think i'm gonna have a hard time today like like sitting down like sitting on this kneeling chair is like after a little bit i'm like oh i have to get up like it's pretty bad so thankfully with cold plunge, it helps, but it doesn't help like forever. So like I have to keep doing that while still trying to get used to everything that you guys are seeing on screen right now, which is like I have to get my body acclimated. And I have to understand like it's like I can get from point A to B at like 60 percent, not 100 percent. You know, probably more effectively because then I can get to the next spot even faster than if i was going 100 yeah so these little things uh the nails the knees the hands

and thankfully um i think this is just a testament to like being somewhat in shape is that like the rest of my body's okay like my shoulder kind of has a weird thing but like my neck's not really sore anymore after like the first couple days um my back's doing great everything is doing fine it's just like some of these weird like kind of like annoyances where like oh my knees hurt this is so strange and this is one thing about all of this with anybody who chooses to start is that your body is moving in a lot of and getting put in a lot of positions that it has been put into if you can even remember newbie, like what doms were when you first started lifting, this is exactly what that is. You know, when we all first started lifting,

if we did chest one day, our chest would be on fire for a few days. If we did back on one day, back would be on fire for a few days. It takes months and months and months for those doms not to be as prevalent, especially with something like this, because it's way more variable movement than a lot of the stuff we do in the gym. It might take you half a year for the DOMs not to hit like they used to. And there's, there's a few recovery things that you can do to speed that progress up at the end of the day. That's how it's going to be for a little bit. And if you were to just mimic some of these movements, I think your mobility would increase even without an opponent.

But you can kind of think about it like you're doing almost like a form of yoga slash myofascial release because people are digging their elbows and their knees into your body as you're trying to move and rotate. You're doing that all while working on mobility, but also while working on self-defense

and working on your own offense. You're also getting a good workout in, you're burning calories. So it's like, there's just a lot of things going on at one time. But if you look at so much of jujitsu, I mean, you have moments where you're on the side of each other a lot,

but primarily it's like one person's mounting the other person. So one person's legs are open or the other person is in the other person's guard and their legs are open. So if you think about like riding a horse or something like that, like it can be challenging on those muscles over time, it's going to help those muscles to open up. If you were just to, you know, go to the gym and like wrestle against, fight against the ground, even that very act without another opponent

would probably increase your mobility a lot. We've been messing around in the gym more recently with like bear crawls, bear crawl forward, bear crawl backwards, and then crab and things like that. Those movements, they're kind of getting worked out and kind of getting worked on a lot when you're doing jujitsu. And then you find yourself, even for me with the small amount of jujitsu I've done, they tell me like, hey, get your foot over there. And I'm like, what? Like I heard what they said, but I'm like, I don't think my foot goes over that way. But sure enough, over time you can do it.

And it's like you're leveraging your body off of somebody else's. But plus, I think because of the way the range of motions are, you'd be surprised and shocked how quickly your body can start to adapt and adopt to some of the mobility yeah that was the other thing i forgot um my my hips especially on my right side that same right

side where the right knee is like really really bad not really really bad sorry it's just i've noticed the pain the most on this right side i'll try to go for like i'll try to pull guard but you know the more experienced or upper belts will be like I know what's happening here and so like they'll go like knee straight to like inside of my uh inside of my knee and then open up the other side with like their body or something so like I'm doing like the splits with my my knees you know crunched in and that's like an instant like that's my hip like shit how do I get out of here so now i'm learning how to like grab the collar and put my knee into their chest which you know i'm still not quite perfecting it to try

to get that sweep yeah but how long ago was this how many years ago this was almost like this was pretty much when i started so probably uh almost seven years it'll be seven years come december wow so um yeah it's really cool just seeing kind kind of how the shit has changed in terms of the way I move. And we've talked about, we've been getting into a lot of movement stuff over time. And I think one of the biggest things is as you age, how can you make variable movement part of your habits so that as you get older, you have access to ranges of motion. Some people choose to go to yoga. Some people choose to go to Pilates. Running in and of itself is a form of movement that's unique that I think it's great that we're all doing and we should do. Striking.

Striking also. But I think jujitsu is really cool and it's a really cool thing not to just do for self-defense and for a short amount of time, but it's a cool thing to be able to do forever just because you get into so many different types of positions that you're not going to typically do in the gym. Like you can crawl and you can stretch and you can do these things, but there's so many ranges of motion that you won't get into and things you just won't do other than probably when you're grappling with another person. And if you do it safely, you know, you're not the fucking ADCC weekend warrior, right? But if you do it safely,

you can go train, you can go spar, you can go home unscathed. It's just, I think one aspect is choosing your training partners wisely. That's why it's really awesome at Casio School. He doesn't let white belts roll with white belts because the person who's probably going to get you injured is the person who doesn't know what they're doing. And who is that? It's the white belt. I've injured a few people as a white belt. I'm not proud of that, but it did happen because I was inexperienced. The same thing used to happen in pro wrestling. We would call it being green. The guys that were new, they're trying to prove a point they're trying to show how high they can jump they're trying to show how good they are at these movements and these uh they're trying to be spectacular for the scouts and the agents

and they're trying to get called up to the wwe and it's going to be at your expense and they're going to fuck you up somehow and so that was always like at least in that you know profession you could give the guy what they would call a receipt so you just hit the guy really hard basically and the guy would be like what the fuck like yeah dude calm the fuck down what are you doing and you can kind of rein things back in and there was a hierarchy too like you know if Nsema's new and he and I are working together and I've been wrestling for longer, he's not really allowed to beat my ass, even though he could, you know what I mean? Like he's not allowed to just like,

if I clock him because he's green, he's not allowed to just knock me out. I mean, otherwise, I mean, they've had situations like that happen before, but they usually just boot your ass out of there. They don't like tolerate that. Yeah. It was like a pecking order, right? Yeah. But this is the unique thing that actually does happen and for anybody in the audience a lot of you guys strength train so maybe you got some good muscle on you you look good right you look strong well when you go into a new jujitsu gym there will be a few people who are like that guy's strong i've seen this guy before that's the guy who stuffed me in my fucking locker. That's the guy who gave me a wedgie and hooked me up on the doorway.

He's the reason why I'm here. They get all their high school anger out on you. I think you've been experiencing this. I've experienced it when I was a white belt because like when they see somebody like Andrew, you're built like you're 180 something pounds. You're built. You move well. So and it happened to me like there'd be some blue belts and purple belts I'd roll with.

And I'm like trying to learn. And they'd be like, let's learn. And they would fuck me raw. That bicep bang don't mean shit around here. It would destroy me. And every time after the roll, it's like, OK's like okay well all right what do we do here you know what i mean it's but but i i enjoyed it because personally like i was looking at it from an athletic point of view but that's where if you're trying to do jujitsu and you want to do

it as a hobby and you're slowly trying to get better and you are a strength athlete number one when you go in don't be super crazy aggressive cobra kai fucker don't in, don't be super crazy, aggressive, Cobra Kai fucker. Don't do that. Don't be that motherfucker. What's it, Eagle Fang? Don't be that dude. Be someone who's good to roll with. But also, choose your training partners wisely. Because if you choose the person, number one, you have to communicate with them.

Say, hey, I'm trying to learn here. Let's kind of flow a little bit. But if this is a person where you've told them that multiple times and they still come at you like it's cobra kai just don't roll with that fucker don't yeah they'll get you injured all pro all mat team like open mat team or the only you know go pro and open mats yo yeah is it cool to be like super super chill or is that too much you know like can you can you just be like you know could i go in and be like hey man like i'm new i want to really learn this slowly and i'm there for six months and you guys are like come on bro like you should kind of move a little faster now but what if i

still want to move slow is that okay or not really yeah yeah no that's perfectly fine but that's where number like the the school environment is important right there are some schools where it's like you can literally take your time you can go at your own pace no one's gonna sweat it you might be like i want a stronger role so i'm gonna roll with somebody else because that guy he's kind of taking his time so you can pick and choose and that's where rolling with upper belts purple brown and black belts is really good because they're not gonna really if you're a white belt, upper belts are not going to try to like fuck you up unless you're like really looking to make progress and they're

doing things to teach you. Right. But if you're like, I do want to kind of take this slow, they'll be slower. They'll still tap you a bunch of times, but they'll do it really slowly. And they'll typically do that either way. The ones that you got to be careful with are the new fresh blue belts that see that nice, strong white belt that came got to be careful with are the new fresh blue belts that see that nice, strong white belt that came into the gym a few weeks ago and they want to see what the fuck can I do? They kind of want to get revenge because they've been,

have all this pent up rage where they're like, I was, I was you and I was getting fucked up. I was mistreated. Yeah. But no, seriously, you can,

you can do that. You can progress slowly. That's good for new people. You can take your time. Yeah. I was going to ask you and see what, cause like, right. Well, um, it's, it can be very frustrating in the beginning. You don't know what the fuck you're doing. And literally everybody is going to tap you or tire you out or just like, just demoralize you. Um, so something I've been doing and if you can think of any other tips for for newbies like myself is like if i'm rolling with somebody that's like that's been destroying

me if i can just get a good hip escape and then kind of get my frames on them i'll think about that later on in the day be like dude that was a fucking huge win yes he tapped me the rest of or you know he was in control for 99% of the six minute roll but I did get that one and so like I'll hold my head on that one thing and then I also just in talking to you and I understand like well fuck if this was hard for it and Seema in the beginning like I'm gonna take it

nice and slow and not get frustrated and let everything take as long as it takes as it's necessary right yeah because I would hate for somebody to try it out and then get frustrated and be like this is fucking stupid like i'm never gonna get the hang of it but like i'll think about that or i'll think about like if when i when i am rolling with another white belt and like oh i got a mount on them and they couldn't they couldn't get off me like i

don't know scoring and all that stuff but like like, I understand, like I was not in a vulnerable position. And if I had maybe just like an ounce of a little bit more skill that maybe I could have done something to them, you know, like, so just being able to like hang on and not let somebody roll me off of them or reverse something. I'll be like, dude, that was a fucking huge win. Because in my head, it's kind of going back to, I know it's kind of silly, but like but like if this was a situation that i was like we'll say a street fight or whatever but it's like i've never never been able to control another man like that you know like i've never been able to like hold someone down and be like wow there's literally nothing you can do to me right now because i'm on top of you and like i have your wrists and like you're not strong enough to like buck me off and because i'm like kind of locked in anyways.

So I think about stuff like that and I'm like, dude, that was a huge win. Like I'm fucking, even if I didn't tap them or whatever, you know, I'll think back and be like, I think for that six minutes I was in control for four of them. Like, I think I just won. What were some of the initial wins that you started getting with running? Like things that on a daily basis that you're like, ooh, this is good. You know, just what you quickly notice is just that you can run faster and you can breathe better. You notice the breathing probably is almost, well, I'd go back even further. For me, it was legs first and then breathing and then faster.

So my legs not being like not burning was the first thing that I actually noticed dissipating. And then, yeah, then the breathing got a little bit better. I'm like, wow, I'm not. And the breathing, you know, it would be like telling someone in jujitsu to like really be like to try to have a lot of awareness of what they're doing when they come in that you just can't yeah like there's not a lot of ways for you to be better than you were than what you just showed in that video no matter what someone told you beforehand no matter what exercise you did like maybe it could be like a little better but the effort wouldn't even really be worth it yeah you got to just actually do it so for me with the breathing the breathing probably could

have been better if i uh would have like been more conscious of it and locked into it but even though i was kind of locked into it i was kind of conscious of it because of all the stuff we talk about on this show yeah i couldn't really do anything about it because i didn't have any experience i didn't have experience trying to breathe well while running. So I had to actually go through it in order to like really feel it and then go, oh, that's what some of those guys were talking about. Like, oh, breathe slower. But I couldn't breathe slower at first because I couldn't fucking breathe. Yeah. I was too fat. Yeah. You were getting tired. So you couldn't even fucking catch your breath. And then after a while, I was like, oh, no, it could be more like this.

And I can breathe every couple steps rather than being hyperventilating. Absolutely, having a cadence. And I wanted to ask you that because you've been running for kind of like years now. You've been doing run walks, but you're, you're at that point right now where you, for the only, it's only been the past few months where you really started to skyrocket that mileage where now you're doing 13, 14 mile runs. So you're still like, and when I pay attention to running, I pay attention to those little things. Oh, wow. I'm not in my traps anymore. I'm able to relax my shoulders. I'm able to breathe. Give me a quick example. DJ Webb, our boy,

able to relax my shoulders. I'm able to breathe. I'll give you a quick example. DJ Webb, our boy. By the way, DJ Webb sometime last year deadlifted 600. He's on day 310 of run every day. He's been fucking crushing it. I think he told me, I don't want to get this wrong, but I think he told me he's like in a six-ish mile range for doing like multiple miles. So he can fucking fly. But he was telling me today he thinks he can do about 830 like 8 minute 30 second miles while being in zone 2 cardio so for him it would be like his heart rate would only be at

like 130 140 while he's going that fucking fast jeez I think DJ and you know he does have a military background he is in our military but he is somebody that's been, he's been actively working on all these things. And he's in great shape.

He's getting stronger simultaneously while building up that conditioning. 415 squat, 315 bench. And this is still all while he's like running all the fucking time. Yeah, he's at Matt Winning's gym too. Yeah. So that's the thing to answer your question, Andrew, the first thing that you're going to be getting the hang of, anybody gets the hang of in jujitsu is like learning how to escape. Everyone's like, Oh, when am I going to

tap somebody? Um, you might, somebody might let you tap them. You know what I mean? Like upper belts will let you work certain positions and tap them. Um, and you might be able to tap some lower belts initially, but at the end of the day, it's like And you might be able to tap some lower belts initially, but at the end of the day, it's like you're just going to be escaping. Escaping, you will learn how to escape back, the mount, all these positions, because people will be getting there so often on you.

And that should be your main focus, learning how to escape. But along with that, one thing that is really hurtful for some people is the ego blow. It's really, if you're someone who's always been used to being good at something and winning, when you go to a place where every single person you roll with is now saying, now making you tap and you're not having to be like, I lose, I lose, I lose day in and day out. Some people don't last just because they're

not okay with tapping. Some people get themselves injured because they don't tap early and they don't tap often. So you're going to have the guy where you're doing an arm bar, but this white ball for some reason is just trying to fucking, and then they tear their bicep tendon

because they didn't tap because they were trying to go like that, right? That shit happens because they don't tap. That's why Casio mentioned to you, just don't fight back. Like, yeah, fight back fight back try to escape but when you get in those positions where you need to tap don't be the fucker that doesn't tap and gets himself hurt tap right um so I think the ego thing is huge and the thing I always tell new white belts whenever like like after a roll is just stick with it because for me personally jiu jujitsu made no sense when I started.

I would go into a class. I'd think I understood something. I'd go to the next class and I didn't remember what was taught. And that happened every single week. I also didn't have like a wrestling or grappling background. So if you're a former wrestler,

some things click a little bit easier. But for me, I was not a grappler. So being on the ground rolling with somebody made no fucking sense for a good year, probably a little bit more than a year. And then things slowly started clicking as I started to do more repetitions and training more things started to click. And then it was like, oh, wow, I can see that position. That makes sense. Wow. This is great. But things won't make sense for a while, but you have to continue sticking with it. I think that's one of the big reasons why a lot of people quit jujitsu.

They expect it to be like boxing. We've talked about it. Striking is intuitive. Grappling isn't. Don't get mad at us, strikers. I'm not saying it's easy. No, it's not easy. You know, I think it takes, you know, I've always said it takes about 10 years to get really good at something.

Like to be really good at something. To start to get towards your highest level. But it only takes about 10 months to get good enough weeks, right? We can agree like about three months, you get over the three months and you're not as sore. It's just not as bad. Like it's not as, it's not as horrible, right? Like it's just,

you're not as shitty at it. Um, but jujitsu, the way that you guys describe it and the way I've heard other people describe it kind of reminds me of like, if you're going to shoot some hoops and like you, you walked away for the day with no baskets, like you didn't make even one shot. Even like, even like a little kid can make a basket.

Like they can do a granny shot. A six year old can figure out a way to throw the ball up to like a 10 foot rim and at least get one of them in there, you know? But it reminds me of like, you, you, you leave and you know, Hey man, how'd it how did it go today well i i didn't make any shots well today must have been a lot better how was that and like no and like two weeks later hey you make any shots like kind of made one it like rolled off the back of the rim and finally went in you're like hey there you go you know you finally made yeah i can take it and then other days it's like i didn't even hit the rim seems like the percentage is really low of being able to figure it out days it's like I didn't even hit the rim. Seems like the percentage is really low

of being able to figure it out. Maybe it's more akin to like baseball. Like if you have 30 you hit the ball 30% of the time you're in the fucking Hall of Fame in baseball. Yeah, but it's batting practice with the ball being underhand thrown and it's the size of a beach ball and you can't fucking even get close. And you do that like Bugs Bunny swing where you miss it three times

in the same time. In the same pitch. Yeah, strike three, in the same time in the same yeah in the same pitch yeah strike three you're out all in one see if you can pull up Dustin Poirier

versus Brian Shaw what? Dustin's half the fuck out of Brian or something remember you were talking about like you were like I don't know about Brian you were like

it's crazy with Brian Shaw like I don't know what the hell would happen with somebody that large I wonder when this happened i mean they were fucking around they were yeah i mean it wasn't like you know they weren't it's legit though wow it's like what

brian is still i mean i know he's still doing world's strongest man and stuff and he's still like highly competitive but i just can't believe the shape that he's in. So Dustin told him, Hey, go ahead and try to get up. And so. He took his back. Yeah.

He's like, I'm just going to run away. Oh. And I don't know, you know, like again, they're like, it's just a training video or whatever.

I don't know. Like, uh, could Shaw have like gone back on him or something? A lot of times. That would be the move. Yeah. A lot of times you see that and the guy does get choked out,

but Brian is so big and weighs so much, I don't really know. But the fact that you can do anything to somebody that large is pretty crazy and impressive. Yeah, that was a pretty cool seat i mean it was that's a that's something you learn how to do you kind of learn how to ride somebody's weight and he just rode him took his back and nice agility by brian to get up yeah but i mean i know dustin's like probably allowing him to get up like he's oh yeah he's waiting for take his back yeah yeah yeah yeah because he did you know right, like, what is the actual move in SEMA?

It's kind of like the opposite, right? Like, you should be looking towards him and pushing away instead of like, I'm just going to get up. Right? You're talking about who?

Brian? Yeah, Shaw. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's so funny. He could have like ran into the parking lot with him. That's so good.

And people do that shit in tournaments too. Like, people get up and then they have someone riding in like a backpack to choke him out. So that's, That's so good. And people do that shit in tournaments too. Like people get up and then they have someone riding in like a backpack to choke him out. So that's that's

the thing. You know what's funny though? Jiu-Jitsu is like kind of opposite to the newbie gains that happen when you lift.

Like if you're a lifter and you were used to like oh yeah stronger this week. Fuck see a new vein. Yeah.

Very little stimulus needed. Oh yeah. Low volume. Gains. Jiu-Jitsu is the exact opposite at the beginning stronger this week fuck see a new vein yeah there's very little stimulus needed oh yeah low volume gains it's the exact opposite at the beginning because every week it's like a firehose you know you're just you're getting this firehose and you're just getting drowned every single week you're literally getting drowned a lot of that makes sense a lot of setbacks too right andrew andrew can feel like every week like you have a new tweak or this thing it's like it it that's why it's hard for people to stick with not like like you know get into your brain but they'll probably be like two months from now you'll probably be like pretty

smooth probably pretty good and then you'll just probably all over again be like i don't know if i'm ever gonna fucking get this shit probably happens that way right that happened to me yeah absolutely i mean i think that happens to a lot of golfers and they get that's why there's like a movie like happy gilmore where he's cussing on the court on the field he's like yelling and shit and going crazy because i think you feel like you got the swing of things and you're like getting to a rhythm with it and then all of a sudden you just recognize every golf game that you ever play is completely different i gotta add this in that but then also when you feel that you get into the swing of things, your training partners can see,

oh, he leveled up a little bit. Now I can level up against what I do against him. And then your training partners pour all this new shit on you. And you're like, what the fuck? I'm back to square one. And you have a bunch of mutants in there too, like Josh Settledge that's like studying that shit

day and night. And like, that's your competition. You're like, fuck. Yeah, that's why i'm so grateful for the like the two guys that i learned from the most chris shaw and chris robertson because like they they're really good at like they're gonna be right here and i'm gonna try to you know go here and like if i jump up a little bit like okay cool and they'll just go just enough to be like hey like good job but like go ahead down. Like, it's so funny, but my buddy Chris Robertson was saying,

and we've heard this so much, and this is why I feel like, not going to say, like, everything I'm doing is prepping me to start jiu-jitsu, but, like, it's just a really good time for me because he's like, the more you start to find out, the more you realize you don't know a damn thing. And I'm like, boy, have i heard that so many times before and that's exactly what it is mark like if i you know in two months from now like oh i think if i do this and because the whole thing is just a big if this then that fucking game you know it's like uh people talk about like oh it's kind of like chess and no disrespect to high level chess

players but like to me it feels like it's chess, but like 4d chess, you know, against like, you know, a bunch of different people all at the same time, but all the fucking, the, the pieces of the game board do something different than what you're expecting. You know? So it's like,

Oh wait, that one, that's only supposed to move one spot forward. And the next thing you know, it's like, you know, across the whole thing. But yeah.

And so like, I know that once I do level up a little bit, it's just going to open up another can of worms where I'm like, ah, that once I do level up a little bit, it's just going to open up another can of worms where I'm like, ah, you didn't do that last month. Why are you messing with me now? You know? So it's, it's cool that we've heard this before, right? The more, you know, the more you realize you don't know shit and jujitsu is definitely that. Are you, uh, trying some of these moves out on the lady at home? Uh, no. Um, I can picture Andrew being like, Hey, let me show you.

And Steph's like, fuck. She, she did, uh, she did catch me trying to learn like, uh, just basic,

like set up frame. So like I'm shrimping out like on the floor and then like setting up a frame. And she's like, you're kicking, you're kicking Jasmine's ass. Like, what are you doing? I showed Jasmine like,

like, Hey, come choke me. And she, cause I was like, do you know how to like, you know, take someone's back?

She's like, yeah. And so she like tries to choke me and I'm like, Oh, I can still breathe. I'm like, here, do it this way. So I showed her how to like set up a legit choke. And I'm like, yep. And I was like, I would have passed out if you didn't let me go. And so like, just, that was just fun, you know, to be like, Oh, I'm excited about this. Let me show you how to choke somebody. You used to eat in that booty yet? Uh there was uh one of the one of the guys that waza would just like he's just one he's really strong and you look at him you're like okay he looks like a wrestler right but the way he changes direction i'm just like getting ready to like you know shrimp out or whatever and it's like oh fuck he's already sitting on my head like what the fuck and so for new people like

um especially for myself i did not like that claustrophobic feeling like you're trying to take in a deep breath and it's like oh like it's this dude's like ball ass area and it's like really really really close you know so you're like like trying to catch clean air but it's like not there and i'm like fuck like this sucks so i'm actually grateful for that guy now because like i've learned how to like i don't want to get stuck in that so like i'm turning and shrimping out as hard and quick as possible incentive to get better yes yes very much so but yeah yeah it was funny when jason came on the podcast and he was talking about how he did privates because the body-to-body thing, you know?

And that's an interesting thing. You do have to get used to that. I mean, I wasn't used to that in the beginning, but, you know, it's something you got to get used to. You know, there are certain positions where a guy's butt's going to be in your face. Literally, his ass will be on your face and you'll have your arm. And you got to learn how to escape that position, you also need to be comfortable just get some like dick pressure here and there too you're like what's that yeah well if you're trying to go what was what was that now if you're owing andrew here yeah like you fucking feel that thing slap against your face

you're like dog the fuck was that you're like that can't be what i nah never mind no way i thought you meant the other way because like i went for like a lame ass arm bar and i'm like oh like oh he knew his come like i telegraph everything right because i don't know what the fuck i'm doing so just a slight bend of the elbow as i try to go because your dick pressure's on my elbow like what the fuck it hurt me really bad i'm like what you trying to do to me i'm like i'm trying to impregnate your elbow son it reminds me of that uh scene where the guy kissed the other guy and the guy knocked him out and said, I ain't gay. Remember that?

It was like a UFC type of thing or whatever. What? I don't remember. That sounds awesome, though. It was a famous fighter. And the other guy, like, you know how they do like a stare down? Yeah. They went to do a stare down.

The guy kissed him. The other guy just whacked him. How are you gay? So good. Oh, my God. they went to do a stare down the guy kissed him the other guy just whacked him so good oh my god i'll try to think of the guy's only scene i can remember right now is uh tell the digging knights when they just like they get done with their race and uh they just start making out it's a great movie it's the worst movie but it's the great like a really really good movie oh my god man oh you know mark since you were mentioning the breathing oh if you found it It's a great movie. It's the worst movie, but it's a great movie. Like a really, really good movie. Oh my God, man. Oh, you know, Mark, since you were mentioning the breathing. Oh, if you found it.

No, no, go ahead. Okay. You mentioned the breathing while running. And I mentioned this with jujitsu too, but right after I read Patrick McEwen's book, Oxygen Advantage, and I started doing nasal breathing with jujitsu, it initially was hard to get used to breathing through my nose the whole time, but it changed how calm I was, how like, you know, in these positions, a lot of people have the tendency, especially new guys to, when I push, I hold my breath. When I pull, I hold my breath. So they're breathing through their mouth. And then in certain instances, they're holding their

breath when somebody has pressure on them or when they're doing something. But if you can learn how to breathe through your nose, our boy, Josh Suttledge started doing it a few years ago and it changed his game. It changed my game. It makes a big difference. People are resistant to it too. They are. We've had guests on and we've asked them about it

and they're like, I don't think it's a big deal. I've noticed it being a huge deal in running. And you've noticed it being a huge deal when you're doing jujitsu, right? And working out. Absolutely. No, it makes a big difference. I don't do like, unless I have to, for example,

if I'm speeding things up when I'm running or even when I'm sprinting sometimes, I'll open my mouth a bit here and there. But at this point, the nose, it's made a big difference for breathing. So if you early on in jujitsu, if you can just make sure, just breathe in and out through the nose,

no matter how hard things get, I'm just going to breathe through the nose. And then if you have to open your mouth when things speed up, go ahead. But try to keep the nose. No matter how hard things get, I'm just going to breathe through the nose. And then if you have to open your mouth when things speed up, go ahead. But try to keep the nose as the governor of everything. Dog, you will progress much faster than a lot of your training partners because of that. I think if you were to lift that way, I think if you were to do stuff from the beginning that way, I think you would have a great career.

I think you would avoid injury. I think you would avoid overtraining. Maybe not completely. Maybe you'd still be able to, because maybe at a certain point you get used to breathing in and out of your nose and maybe at some point you can still go pretty hard, but it would be,

oh, you're working on being on the finger. But I got a great idea. I think we should do a podcast with the hostage tape on, all three of us. That'd be the best podcast of the year. Best podcast of the year. That's actually how I wanted to do one of the ads is just everybody wears them.

No more hostage tape? This stuff is sticky, man. It goes on pretty good. No, I honestly, guys, we do have a code with hostage tape. But also what I was using was 3M microport tape from Amazon. I think there's a picture i have three strips because like it usually falls off with just one i only need to use one strip of hostage tape and i have facial hair yeah it's like thank you jesus and i've been

running with it and you can like you know you can just breathe in and out of your nose you don't have to look like a psychopath with tape on your mouth but but you can but the tape on the mouth like just ensures you're not going to cheat. I find myself getting distracted, and next thing I know, I'm not nasal breathing. So I'm like, I'm just going to fucking throw the tape on. Yeah. Power Project Family, how's it going? Now, a lot of you guys are lifters, athletes. You're serious about the gym, and we are too.

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And at checkout, enter promo code POWERPROJECT10 to save 10% off your entire order. Links to them down in the description as well as the podcast show notes. I would say during the, it's not necessarily a lull, but like, you know, when you're in a position and you're like thinking about the next move you're going to make, whether he's on top or you're on top or whatever it may be. Oh, yeah, I know. In jujitsu.

Oh. Yeah, sorry. Sorry, guys. Let me also real quick, I want to say this. So many people, because of all the gay jokes want to say so many people because of all the gay jokes i make so many people in the audience are like of course it's almost fucking gay it's just i think it's i think it's funny i don't continue on but i don't think the jokes are gay i think it's just their people have you know their interpretation it's their interpretation

they want to take it there yeah exactly who's who is the gay one is it me is it you we don't know yeah we didn't even talk about it's like when my brother was sending me all these like uh like gay bodybuilding things he's like look how gay all this and i'm like you spent like 15 hours on the internet looking all this shit up what is going on what's going on in your day like what happened you have to you have to have to have to retell the story about when you guys were at a UFC event and Holly Berry was right across. Oh, my God. So we went last minute to watch Bones Jones fight,

which was great to watch Bones Jones. That's like getting an opportunity to see fucking Michael Jordan back in the day bones jones is is one of the greatest of all time uh so my brother and i got tickets we're real excited we're getting to our seats and we're just kind of sitting there and i look across the way and i see somebody that looks very familiar and i'm like oh my god wow my brother sees someone that looks familiar too and at the same same time, I look at him and I go, and I go there and he goes, he says, mankind, like a professional wrestler, Mick Foley, mankind.

And I say, Holly Berry. He noticed this fat fucking wrestler, Mick Foley, who's famous for getting thrown off the top of the cage by Undertaker. And I noticed Holly Berry because they're actually talking to each other like what an interesting uh pairing but Holly Berry's like arguably the most beautiful woman I was like I was like there's Holly Berry and he's like Mick Foley and I was like oh my god like oh man you know bring you see you can bring up some pictures here Holly okay I was like, oh my God. Oh, man.

You know, bring up some pictures here. Okay. Shit. Halle Berry is unbelievable. She seems like not only like really hot, really attractive, but super cute too, right? Like that's the, I don't know, that always gets me. I was a disgusting teenager. Halle Berry's scene in Monster's Ball.

That was, yeah. I've used that scene many a time as a teen. You know the scene? Yeah. Halle Berry's incredible. I feel so bad because she's so amazing. Oh, God, Halle Berry. Damn. She's in her 50s and

she still... Oh, my God. God. Damn. You need to do a whole show about Holly Berry. Yeah, dude. All right, now bring up Mankind. Was it Mick Foley? Yeah, Mick Foley, yeah. Mankind.

I got to go relive that scene. Yeah, there he is with the mask on. It's perfect. Yeah. And he was pretty much dressed like that too. See if you can find a clip of him

getting chucked off the top of the cage because that is legendary. That is such a funny You too. That's just fucking weird. It was like something out of a movie.

Yeah. I was like, what? I was like, what are you talking about? Halle Berry, if you'd love to come on the podcast, we'd love to have you. Where is she? Please. I think she does some keto stuff, doesn't she?

Well, I think she does keto stuff. Holy shit. Oh my God. I gotta rewind it. What the fuck did he land on? See if you can play the audio. The announcers are great. He lands on a table.

He goes right through a table. Oh, Jesus. He was more like, almost like a stuntman. Oh, here he goes. Good God almighty. Good God almighty. They killed him. Good God almighty.

They killed him. Oh, my God. That's God's guy witness. He is broken in half. That is so good. That is so good cactus jack what a legend he was incredible oh my god i don't remember what we were talking about andrew are you able to lift do you even lift bro i yell dude um after the first week i was like no no, I'm not, I don't want to get too far removed from lifting. I'm going to keep doing it. But that's when I started turning different colors, you know? So I'm like, okay. And, and I, I was a zombie, you know? And I always talk about,

yeah, Andrew was looking like flat out, just ill, you know, like when your friend, your friend just looks different and you're like, Hey, like I got to say something, you know? I was like, man, are you okay? He's like, I don't know. I like aged like 20 years in one week. But something that I will try to remind a lot of like, you know, guys in the gym, it's like your family doesn't care how sick your lift was. Like, you know, like you're talking about like I'm doing all this shit for myself. Especially your son.

Right. Exactly. You don't give a shit. Couldn't have said it any better than that. Right. So I am, I'm doing, I was doing jujitsu and then I would go lift and then I'd come home and I would have like negative energy. Right.

Like, well, not negative energy, but like my energy level was like, it wasn't even at zero. I was like dead, you know at zero i was like dead you know like i was not present i was my son wants to play of course and i'm just like fuck here we go you know and then like i started feeling my throat get scratchy like i started feeling sick so i was like dude i need to dial this way back at least for a little bit because this is just too much so since then i haven't actually like lifted lifted lifted anything. I've done a couple of things in the gym, but right now I'm still just doing jujitsu, um, at least three times

a week, sometimes four, but, um, no, no like actual lifting in the gym as of right now. Yeah. That will change. I am, I guarantee that will change because I have, there's a lot of things I want to work on that I'm recognizing now on the mats. Like, oh, I need to figure out what's going on with like my adductor, right? Like I need to get that stronger. So like some of the stuff you and I were talking about and that you're helping me with stuff like that. Like I, I cannot ignore that. It's not going to get better by just keep keeping dudes in my my guard. I want to get stronger than just attacking the weakness on the mat. I want to attack it off of the mat so that way it's better on the mat. Yeah.

With what you're saying right now, there's a question I still get, and it's something that's, I think, the most popular question from strength athletes when it comes to starting jiu-jitsu is like, how do you structure your lifting in jiu-jitsu? Or how do you make sure you can maintain your strength in the gym while doing jujitsu? And to be perfectly honest, it's like jujitsu, again, everything we've talked about, so many new ranges of motion, your body's being put in all these different positions, meaning you're going to be getting sore in all these smaller muscles that you're not typically using in the

gym. Your lifts will go down a little bit, but it's not a permanent thing. Your lifts will go down for probably a few months. The main lifts that you love, like your deadlift, your squat, your bench, even maybe some of your accessory movements. But as you get used and as your body gets used to the stressors of jujitsu, and as all those muscles get stronger and they're able to have more endurance and they're able to recover faster because they're being used, your lifts will start to slowly come back. And then over time, you'll probably be able to become even stronger. I mean, just look at Jimmy House, right? Jimmy House is super strong now, but his thing is he's like six years into jujitsu with his lifting. He probably had the same experience. With me,

same thing happened. My lifts went down, but I knew that, okay, it's a new stimulus. My body has to get used to it. And what does your lifts going down even mean? knew that, okay, it's a new stimulus. My body has to get used to it. And what does your lifts going down even mean? You know, like let's say that you go to the gym and you go to deadlift and 275 is now shaky on a deadlift and you're like, wow. But meanwhile, you were just at jujitsu yesterday, like wrecking people, picking people up and like having no problem. So you have to kind of think about like, what's the training for? Do you feel like you're less conditioned? Do you feel like you're in worse shape? Do you feel like you're in better shape? Do you feel like you're in the same shape?

Do you feel like six weeks from now that you'll be able to do a lot of the things that you used to love to do? It's just a matter of kind of riding it out. Like, I think people just need to kind of think about it a little bit more and a matter of kind of riding it out. Like, I think people just need to kind of think about it a little bit more and weigh out their options of what it is you're really trying to do. Somebody like Andrew starting up, I haven't noticed a negative change in his body.

I've noticed more of a positive change. We were talking about his walk. Like, it seems like you're moving around, like you're less stiff from like the week one or whatever. And seriously, we were talking about that last week because I was seeing you walk to the bathroom, like he seems looser in his walk and you do. Yeah, just in your movement pattern in general.

So it's like, I think we, in fitness, it's hard to not just think about like the, what's going on like right now and the direct result that we get from something for three weeks, five weeks, six weeks. It's more like we want to think about stuff more in terms of years. Like how long is it going to take to be halfway decent at jiu-jitsu? It's going to take a couple years to be good at it. You know, when you start anything new, the greatest thing you can do is have really low expectations.

So if we all went and shot some some baskets and played some basketball we would have a fucking blast because the expectations would be really low now if we were like you know hey like let's meet today we're going to shoot some hoops and the next week we're going to play a game 2v2 it would start to it would start to suck after a while because then our expectations would raise and then we would be like dude i rolled my ankle like i'm all fucked up right so the x when expectations are low is when you're going to find and your expectations for what you're doing right now should keep them low you know and maybe you have like standards like i like i don't fucking give up like that's a standard that you can kind of say uh i'm not going to be a pussy like whatever that means to you or however you word, whatever terminology you need to be like super positive during the sessions.

Or I'm going to go in and I'm going to, okay, I'm not the best guy here, but I'm going to learn more than everybody here. Like, could you figure that out or could you figure out your own version of that? I think you can. Yeah, it goes back to the ego thing when it comes to like, you know, the jujitsu side of things, like the ego, like I'm going to tap or I'm not going to tap because my ego is not going to let me. When it comes to the lifting side, I already got rid of that because it did consume me prior, you know, to learning how to just like chill out and work out correctly. So like as is right now when I lift, I don't pay attention to how much weight I'm actually lifting. I'm getting the stimulus and I'm doing my reps and sets so when you say like the the numbers might go down or whatever i don't give a fuck because now which is again something else you've been preaching i am

training for something other than physique looks the three of us don't even necessarily use an actual barbell that often in my observation like we're using a cable column a lot who really cares if it has 70 or 40 on there like exactly we don't really i don't you don't care i don't care stimulus yeah that's why i pay attention kettlebell wise like you might move around a kettlebell and be like i could use more right and use a little bit more weight but it's like a 53 pound kettlebell. Like it's not, so we're not really trying at the moment to really lift four or 500, 600 pounds.

I'm still messing around sometimes on a bench press. Good though. But yeah, yeah, but the capacity again, it's nice to have the capacity to be there. And I think that you're still getting in enough volume to where six plates on a deadlift wouldn't be hard. Four plates in a squat wouldn't be hard. No. Right. And I think, but also too, it's like, you don't really care that much about that.

But if you went to pick up 500, you might say, that's doesn't really make any sense for me. Like I've been lifting six plates for a really long time and I don't know what happened to where that occurred. And you would probably kind of notice that in other places before you ever even noticed it show up in a barbell movement. Yeah. That's the thing though. It's like, remember that when you had me get ready for CT Fletcher, you told me like a week or two weeks in advance, like, I want you to pull something heavy. And I wasn't really pulling much before that, but pulled 685, tweaked a little something in my back, but it wasn't anything major, but it was fast. Right. Even though I never touched anything over five for months before that.

The thing is, is if you keep some type of Andrew kind of hit it on the head, he was like, I'm looking for stimulus. If you've gained a certain amount of muscle, what, what lifting and jujitsu will do for you is when you go into the gym now, you're going to be like, okay, I have these movements to do, but you're not married to the amount of weight you do it for. You're looking for the stimulus on the muscle and maybe stimulus on how hard it feels. But let's say before, let's say you still love to deadlift, but let's say before 500 felt hard and now 405 or 450 feels the same as 500 and you're fresh into jujitsu. That's okay. Stick with 405 or stick with 405 or 450. Stay there for a while because over time, body gets better with jujitsu. Your strength will start to creep right back up, but we don't need to pay attention to that kind of stuff anymore.

I think with our training, it's all about getting adequate stimulus to each of the muscles we're trying to work. And if we can do that, we're going to make progress. That's usually kind of the dialogue I have going on in my head. I'm like, I think I got the stimulus I need. I'm good. I'll do two sets. Whereas before I'd be like, no, no, no, I need six sets. I need eight sets. I need four exercises. I need, I used to think I need, I need, I need, I need to do these things this way. It has to be done this way.

And now I kind of recognize like, no, let me just, if I send a signal and it's, and you know what? It can be a passive signal because we work out so often. Our frequency is really high. So if I just send a signal, this is going to be good enough for today.

And if I underdid it, I can come back tomorrow and I can send a signal this is going to be good enough for today and if I underdid it I can come back tomorrow and I can try a little harder we're doing calf raises at the fucking desk that study I sent you guys the thing Huberman brought up the calf push up or whatever no soleus push up

I'll have to check that out that was not a study done by Huberman it's a study that he referenced. Referenced, yeah. And then with jujitsu, and you don't even have to quote unquote go all in on it, but in that realm, a 700 deadlift will definitely help you for damn sure. But still, what you were mentioning in the beginning with that um he was like 160 something pounds he's probably 155 155 black belt was just murdering you absolutely so

in this this this so on the physique side of things somebody would look at me and be like okay he's in shape but like i'm not gonna strive to to be that in on in strength sports nobody's gonna look at the numbers that i can do and be like that motherfucker's strong they might be like well that's cool he he can lift a little bit of weight like that's awesome but in jujitsu like i've never received this many compliments about people saying that like oh you're really strong or you move really well or you look like you're in good shape like cassio like he doesn't have to do anything extra other than jiu-jitsu because he's already in great shape and i'm like what like i've never heard that so what i'm saying is like even though i do still want to get in better

shape um because well yeah thank you and my my focus is on jiu-jitsu now so like i would have never believed that i would go into the gym and focus on adductors like that's just something i've never fucking thought i would ever do but what i'm getting at is like training for that stimulus whether you know you said the 500 down to 405 like that's gonna still carry you very very far in jiu-jitsu right like you don't have to break world records on the platform to be good at jiuitsu. I think what could hurt you though, is to be too connected to the a hundred percent or too connected to the 110%, 105% being so connected to like your best because,

you know, they always say comparison is the thief of joy, but even if it's comparing yourself to yourself, you're comparing yourself to yourself with different conditions. You know, so for me to try to compare myself to myself when i was power lifting is just absurd like that was my thing like i i will probably i don't know i most likely will never run into something that i love that much that i do for myself where i spend that much time it was a it was a very special time it's

probably what you're going through with jujitsu it's like hard to put into words you know without crying and getting all swelled up it was an amazing time period and for me to try to compare myself to that time period it's a big mistake I was really locked in I took a ton of drugs I weighed whatever I need to weigh I did whatever I had to do the whole gym my, my whole life, my whole day was set up. All my friends were set up too. Everything was around being as strong as possible. Let me bring in the other strongest people in the world so I can be motivated, inspired, and learn from them. Let me go to the best coaches.

Let me read the best books. Let me, you know, let's get Matt Winning in here. Let's go train at Westside Barbell with Louise Simmons. Let's get Matt winning in here. Let's go train at Westside Barbell with Louie Simmons. Let's learn from Dave Tate. Let's go visit Jesse Burdick. Let's, you know, just everything was just, just smashed in on all that. So now if I go to lift, okay, it's cool to like throw up a decent lift. And it's that, that's cool. You know, if I do three, four plates, something like that, that's, that's great. That makes me feel good. I'm like, okay, well that's, you know, that's respectable. Those are weights I've handled before for a lot more repetitions and stuff.

But this is something that is kind of baked into me. I enjoy this. So I'm still going to pursue it and still going to do it. But I'm also not foolishly going to try to lock myself into even worrying about being within 90% of those numbers because those numbers were done by almost a completely different person. Yeah. And that's one of the cool things. You now have so many different capacities. You can go out and run and get enjoyment from that. You can throw around a kettlebell and get enjoyment from that. You can go into the gym and not only do you have access to the barbell, now you have access to all these other implements that you've learned how to get some stimulus to different muscle tissues and you can get enjoyment from there.

You have so many options for your fitness that it's like, well, you can't lose anywhere. There are going to be some people who even mark us in bench 500 anymore, but do you need to? Like, what's that going to give you right now? I already did 800 and 54. Fuck. Okay. I was going to say 53.

I was close. Not bad. You're right there. Yeah. And I mean, that's the same thing here. You know, like I am in the best shape I have ever been in. Ever. You know, and I'm more flexible than I've ever been.

I move better than I ever have. I just feel fucking amazing. But it's because all the different capacities that we've been able to build and all the things we've been able to learn are all adding up. Now have multiple options i do i do have oh sorry go ahead mark i was gonna say feeling is like a hard thing to like register you know or or to understand but do you think you feel better than you've ever felt before like and maybe that's you know career wise relationship wise lifting wise jujitsu wise yeah man there's a bias though

because just like LG man life's good you know like everything's going well here everything's going well at home I'm at peace it's like

I can't I can't say I don't our life is kind of dumb we just come here and we fucking wrap on here and we eat a bunch of fucking Piedmontese beef and then we tape our mouths shut

and just keep fucking repeating it's like how do you have a podcast if you just tape our mouths shut and just keep fucking repeating. It's like, how do you have a podcast if you just tape your mouth shut? It doesn't make any sense. Guys, check out Hostage Tape Real Talk. What were you about to say though, homie? Talking to our boy Casey because he saw me kind of like limping

in one morning. It's morning, it's cold and I just got out of my car which is now kind of like a task some mornings because going at 5.30 and then you get here uh after jujitsu and so i'm like you know i'm trying to get out um and he's just like i move a little slow and i was just like yeah and then he looks at my feet and he's just like confused a little bit yeah fucking a disease yeah it's it right dude the way it looked it was like it's disgusting uh owen was like oh god is that uh what do you say athlete's foot and i'm like no dick like it's not even close but it

looked terrible anyway andrew had some jujitsu matt burns that fucked his feet up for a little bit i think casey's sizing you up because he's in the fight club as well so he's like what's going on with andrew now i gotta worry about him too fuck trust me he has nothing to worry about that is a fucking man that knows how to throw a solid punch and then knows how to shoot a gun he can yeah bow and arrow all of it casey's the man he is the manliest man i've ever met like i get so much good advice from him he's the shit oh yeah but i was telling him about jiu-jitsu and like i'm loving it but telling him like, Oh, he knows he would love it too. But one question that he had that I had that I'm sure a lot of people have is like when they,

when they talk to people that have been in jujitsu for a long time, it seems like everyone kind of has like this like badge of honor or whatever it may be where they're, they talk about their injuries. Like they're kind of always have a little something like hearing like joe rogan and eddie bravo talk about like whether it be neck stuff or whatever it just seems like everybody accumulates some type of injury over time but in sema you've been doing it for six seven years at this point and you feel better than ever uh do you

do you understand the trend that i'm that i'm bringing up here where people like kind of just develop injuries over time and like what, like what advice or what like comments do you have on that for people that are looking into it with that in mind and them being concerned about that? Developing injuries over time. That's an interesting thing. I should remember that you mentioned that, but you know, when people are trying to get strong, they pull things in their back. They pull hamstrings. They injure themselves all the time in the gym. With running, you've had a few things here and there that have gotten you injured. Some people develop some pain in their feet.

I pulled something in my back one day. I was having some weird foot problems as my feet were getting stronger with running. Injuries. But you rehab, you're good. Jiu-jitsu is the same deal. was having some weird foot problems as my feet were getting stronger with running injuries. But, you know, you rehab, you're good. Jiu-jitsu is the same deal. I think that people look at it differently because, yeah, it is a martial art. You are rolling and fighting against somebody and that person is not a controllable part of the equation

because you don't know what they're going to do. Might be a spazzy motherfucker. That's just like, it's their ADCC weekend. They really want to fuck you up today with uh joe rogan and eddie bravo you got to keep in mind they're from the old school too so they're before there was a lot of great information out there um they had to kind of blindly figure it out so there's probably a lot of like almost miles on both of those guys that uh they wish they could probably maybe have back because they just had to like figure shit out

because there wasn't the advent of the internet. They had to run through the wall, right? Yeah, exactly. But the thing is with jujitsu, you're dealing with so many things. You probably had little things here and there, right? That could be called injuries, but it's, I'm not going to say it's inevitable, but just like with every other thing we've done and we've gotten injuries, you're going to get some injuries here and there with jiu-jitsu. But there are things that you can quite literally avoid. So like I mentioned with you, talk to your training partner. You can probably see the training partners who have some level of danger. There are people that have avoided rolling with me purely because of my size.

So they think I'm going to injure them even though I scale. I'm the safest person to roll with at this point, because I can just, I know what I'm doing. Right. But when you roll with some new white belt or some blue belt that doesn't know what they're doing and they're spazzy, you don't have to roll with them. That's one thing. It's like, you can say no. I have said no to training partners because they're just a little bit too crazy. I know if they're going with me, they're going to do some wild shit and I can't control whether they get injured or not. I've rolled with people because they smell like shit and they didn't clean themselves

and their gi was shit. So they asked me to roll. I'm like, dog, I can't. I'm telling you, you got to wash your gi. I've been real. Because there was probably one day when I didn't smell great and someone told me and I was like, okay, that's never happening again.

So you choose your training partners. And that's why when I was a white belt, I always chose really good, I chose advanced people that were really going to kick my ass, but they kicked my ass in the best way possible. It's inevitable. And then over time, I also learned how to calm my movements down. If you're strong and you're explosive, sometimes you think that you need to be strong and explosive when you do jujitsu. And although it's a benefit, there's also an element where you need to learn when to explode and you need to learn when to use your strength. As I calmed down and I started focusing more and more on technique,

less and less injuries, you know, but, um, I did have a meniscus injury that happened one day, but that stemmed from something I did in the gym. And then it was also impacted with something in jujitsu. So I had part of my meniscus removed, but I barely feel that. I just think it's like, it's not, it's not a big deal if you have a few things in check. And I'm sorry that this is going on so long, but this is something to think about. If you're in an area and you go to a school and there was a place that we were talking about here, that's like Cobra Kai here in Sacramento, don't roll with those types of people. I'm not going to say any names, but don't roll with people and don't roll at a school

where it seems like the gym culture is we kick everybody's ass and you go home and you come back and you do it again. No, this is something you want to be able to do forever. So you want to be able to have good instruction. You got to make sure the instructor is good. When you go to the school, you want to make sure that there are quite a few upper belts

for you to roll with because upper belts know what they're doing. So if you go to a school and you see a lineup of white belts, run. That is injury central. And then communicate with your training partner. If you have a nagging knee injury, right, let your training partner know, hey, my left knee is kind of odd, so I'm going to let you know. Don't be afraid of communicating because it's when you don't communicate and someone does something on your injured shoulder that you didn't communicate to them about and you get injured that you cry home that I injured my shoulder in jujitsu because my training partner when you just had to tell them about it. So there's so many things you can do to make sure that you leave unscathed. Remember I was talking about the expectations and just not having hardly any. I know it's really difficult for people.

the expectations, you know, and just not having hardly any, I know it's really difficult for people. And so maybe rather than like doing that, maybe you do want to get your blue belt by this time or whatever, whatever the case is. I think those things are fine. It's nice to have goals and stuff. But I think the main commitment in trying anything new is to figure out a way to stick to just understanding this is new for you and you want to be able to participate in it for a really long time. The new diet, the new this, the new that. It's not a new diet. Like this is your, you're a hundred pounds overweight.

This is your protocol that you're switching to. And you're going to ride this protocol out or something similar to this for a long time. So there's no reason for you to start on Monday with a crash course of, there's no reason for you to dive into jujitsu saying, I'm doing it every day. I'm going to go this way. I'm going to, you know, I'm going to lift. I'm going to spar. I'm going to like, and as if you're training for the Olympics out of nowhere, you have, you have time, like take your time doing it.

You're not going to learn. You can't really learn hardly anything in jujitsu in one day, much less two days, five days, 10 days. Maybe when you're more proficient and you've been doing it for two years, then maybe you could say, yeah, I learned a lot in that day because now things make sense. But in the beginning, it's really difficult. And you were saying like you were having a hard time remembering from one class to another. And those are challenges that I faced before in other sports. It's like, I don't want to have a limiting belief about it, but it is a little bit of a weakness of mine if I'm being real,

where I got to do something, a lot of repetitions to get it. Once I get it, then I feel pretty good, but it's going to take me a lot of reps. I'm going to be like, and Seema just did that with his left and then his right. And then know and Seema would be like, no, no, that was with my right and my left. And it was this way.

And then I would do it my left and my right. And he would say, no, no, no. It's with the right and your left. And it's this way. And I would do it the wrong way again. And then eventually he'd be like, yeah, okay. That's halfway decent you got you halfway got there that was me and then it would start to get ingrained but then the next

time i go i forget it all over again and i'd be like wait uh you gotta slow down not so you gotta go slower go slower and then that was a good jujitsu chop yeah you're talking about like forgetting stuff from one class to the next. I will have you show me something or have Chris show me something and I'll do it and be like, he's like, no, no, no, you did it wrong again. I'm like, fuck, okay, hold on. And then here's the other one that really, really gets me is whatever the drill is, whatever it is, I'll use my right side.

And then it's like, oh, let me try going to the left side and it is like it's calculus baby it it goes from like english to some super foreign language where like you just have no idea what the heck is going on and i'm like why can't i make the same connection that i did two seconds ago like all let's do is just kind of the op nope it's it is so difficult to you know to try to reverse it somehow on the other side even it's the same thing and you're going the same same pace and just it yeah it takes forever to get ingrained it's very difficult i've sent you that uh pre-fight kiss if you can find it it's like maybe like quarter of the way into that video i'll check it

out um and sema while i'm looking for it i wanted to ask because we are talking about like kind of like an intro to jujitsu and stuff um when it comes to like equipment so i guess we can start with geese yeah because i a lot of well like i was using a loaner gi for a while but i knew i i really wanted to get my own yeah because i wanted to commit to it but like what um i don't know can you rattle off some some some brands that people can look, look towards to kind of get an idea, like cost and that sort of thing. Okay. So I'll first want to start off with like, guys, just always make sure that you're clean. So shower beforehand, wipe your ass, right. Um, cut your nails. Cause those things, sometimes there's some people who just really stink and it's unfortunate because they got to be told they stink and it's embarrassing for them, but clean yourself.

But as far as geese are concerned, my first ski was a Fuji gi and they're great, but like it did rip after a little bit of time. And a buddy of mine, Neho Burnett, he's a black belt now, big guy. I love Neho. He's awesome. He told me about Origin. Now, we're not sponsored by Origin or anything, but when I got my first Origin gi, that gi has lasted me for the past five and a half years. And I've bought more Origin gis. I've had other gis too that they had a rip or whatever, but my Origin geese are still going. And I bought two more recently. So I would say they're a little bit more expensive. They have ones that start at like maybe 150 or 170 or whatever. And they have some that go all the way up to like 200, $300. But

thing is, is it's much better to get a gee like that. That'll last you years versus getting yourself a slightly cheaper gee or a gee from another brand that within two years you have to replace it. My origin gis are still strong. And the cool thing is my upper body has a different sizing than my lower body because my lower body is generally bigger. Oh, I know about that lower body. Oh, yeah. Small dick, big legs.

Freaking penis pump over there. There it is. Male enhancement. You don't need that, do you? Maybe I do. What? Maybe do one time in my career no seriously guys get a little thicker get that penis link in description link in description but um yeah like the you can customize your gi top and get a different bottom so it fits you perfectly so man i origin where you at but i love them they're they're such they're such high quality gis and they last forever so and they are i can

get it they're lighter right like that's jaco willing right jaco willing yeah jaco's company um he's making boots and all kinds of stuff i think jeans he's getting into all kinds of stuff he's making yeah yeah yeah yeah. And you're right. The gi top feels lighter. It actually is lighter. And they've done a great job. Yeah, and then when it comes to competing, when you weigh in, you have to weigh in with your gi, right?

Yeah, I would want the lightest one possible. See that little loophole? It's light, but the thing is it's light, but it's durable as fuck, dude. So some of these gis are super thick. But again, after a year or two, you the thing is it's light, but it's durable as fuck. So some of these geese are super thick. But again, after a year or two, you got to replace it. Do you wear a mouth guard? Hell no. No?

Nasal breathing, man. Some people wear mouth guards because, you know, sometimes somebody's knee might hit your mouth or whatever. Or it's like some people also have a tendency of bearing down on their teeth. That's why we talk about relaxing the face. Bill Maeda, love you, man. But relaxing your face, I don't find that I ever need a mouth guard. And I also found that it's harder to breathe through my nose

when I have a mouth guard on, so I don't use a mouth guard. But some people do, so maybe try it out and see if it works for you. Yeah, a couple weeks back I took a knee to the jaw, and it was kind of like one of those like, like situations where like I, my mouth was kind of open. So like it, I don't,

I didn't hit my teeth, but it just like was like in my jaw. And I'm like, like, that's probably not good. And so part of that is I was mouth breathing. So that's, that's on me.

But also like, I just wasn't ready for a fucking knee to the face. Yeah. Which did two things. One, it made me get a mouth guard and start focusing on more nasal breathing but also it was like uh oh god there's a move god damn i'm not gonna remember the movie but uh were there they watched the the football teams

the soccer teams in it's like hooligans or some shit like that i have no idea anyway where they fight on the street before each soccer game or football game. And the fucking character, I forgot his name. I'm sorry. I'm terrible at telling this. But he basically says he got in his first fight and he got punched. And he was like, then you realize your chin's not made of glass. And so it made him super confident to go fuck more people up.

This is kind of one of the situations where I'm like, I just took a knee to the jaw. And like, we're still going. I felt it later. That's for damn sure. Yeah. But after that, my wife was like, yeah, you need a mouth guard because teeth are expensive. We don't want to make any weird like expenses just because you don't want to wear a mouth guard. It's probably useful. But again, like I used a mouth guard for a little bit.

I just found that I was bearing down on it and my face wasn't relaxed. And because of that, my body wasn't as relaxed. So I was like, fuck mouth guards. So I think it's something where you be careful. Use one if you want to, but pay attention. Are you finding that you're bearing down on it or is it helping you relax? Yeah. I think it's the one after this one, but just hit play.

Oh, damn. He actually came in from the side. Or it's another one other than this? Yeah. Oh, damn. He actually came in from the side. Or it's another one other than this? Yeah, yeah. Oh, my gosh. Okay. This is like a compilation, I believe. Does he do it again?

I'm going to fuck you. No, no. I think it's just a little replay. That's not cool. That was kind of a passionate kiss. Here's the other one. I think you need to back up a tiny bit. Back it a little bit.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's cold's cold man it's quick reaction hey that that punch was deserved i think so he deserved that punch wow oh my god i wonder like what happened like did they fight you know like because the guy's like knocked out did they wait like 10 minutes and then let the guy fight again or yeah who knows i mean he's saying i'm not gay i'm not gay i would imagine it was dq'd right yeah i don't know man if you're the guy who ends up getting kissed it's like you have to do something you can't just stand here that are like like a punk like at that point it's like

either i'm gonna make out with you right now i'm about to punch you it's one of the two they probably should have made it all right maybe you don't have to maybe you can just do it this is solid the first guy kind of played chicken the other guy's like sure yeah the first guy went 90 he went 100 you know what i think that is actually the safest bet just kiss the dude back and pat him on the head yeah that was great i did not see that coming i remember uh kyle kingsbury used to wear like a speedo for his weigh-ins and i think it said like um damn it it was something like make uh make america gay again or something like that like it was it was fucking awesome that actually goes with the whole thing it's like a rant like oh i hope i hope the lgbtq community takes that and does something with it makes their own maga hat

just make america gay again I think that'd be awesome. That's true. They could. They could. Let's see if I can find it before we get out of here. That probably, that hat probably exists.

You trying to find Kyle Kingsbury in a Speedo? Yeah. That's not a difficult thing to do. No, here it is. He goes around Austin, Texas

not wearing any clothes. Other than a Speedo? Pretty much. I feel... Hard to... Damn it. I think it says I feel very gay.

It's got gay plaster on both butt cheeks. Let's go, Kyle. That boy. Thick. With three Cs. What does it say, though? I don't know.

I'm going to try to figure it out. It's like a little blurry. Look at that glute hand tying though. Let's go, Kyle. Not too shabby. Ben's over for gay marriage. Oh, okay. Oh, it says legalize gay.

Oh. Oh, there you go. There's somewhere where it's illegal. Oh. This was a while back when he was a UFC fighter. Big tip, and Andrew's been doing this, but take some wipes to your school because if you've got to have an interim shit with jiu-jitsu and you're sweating on that toilet, you don't want to use normal toilet paper.

I have a wet wipe in my bag for that reason. If I've got a shit in between rolls or whatever. It's weird when you're really sweaty and you've got to take a dump. Like a sweaty dump. Yeah, what is that? It's so uncomfortable. Yeah toilet paper just like it's almost non-existent it's just fucking yeah i had to do that at a sauna yesterday like it was like 30 minutes my sauna such my stomach goes at least you didn't shit in the sauna again yeah i didn't do it again i went to the bathroom this time that was a thing uh i was telling all my boys I didn't do this at Asha by the way. I did that. Yeah. I

shat in another sauna, not Asha. Yeah. Tell, tell the guys at Waza about the second wave. And they're just like explaining the whole thing, you know, like you're all, you're all good. You took a shit and then you're like, it's time to start the day. And then your body's like, nah, we got some more. And they're like, dude, that makes so much sense. So now in the mornings, it's kind of like a mad dash to the bathroom because nobody wants to smell each other's shit. So it's just like, hey, what's up? As you're like walking towards the bathroom, everyone's like, fuck, I got to get here earlier then. Nobody's going to get any rolls in.

Everyone's just going to be shitting all the time. Toilet paper rolls. Take us on a hike, Andrew. All right. Make sure you guys stick around for Smelly's tip before we get out of here but let us know what you guys think about today's episode in the comments and drop some comments whether you're about to start Jiu Jitsu you just did

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What? Discord is below. And see my yin yang on Instagram and YouTube. And see my yin yang on TikTok and Twitter. Marky mark. There's like a speedometer thing in the neighborhood I was running in. So I was like, let me see. You know, let me just give it a go here.

So I just wanted to try to run as fast as the all-time record holder in the marathon who did it for two hours straight. Ilyud Kipchoge. He did like a two-hour and one-minute marathon, which is just like that's just insanity. I was able to hold it for maybe, I don't know, two-tenths of a second. He's holding on to it for like two hours. So I hit 13, and I had my nephew do it today with me too because i thought it was like this would be a good way to ploy him out to get him out for a run yeah and so uh hamish hambone

he did uh he did 11 11 miles per hour and then he went out again later and uh he just texted me just now he's like i did 13 so he's all hyped up wow so you know just figure out ways to like make the shit that you're doing figure out ways of making it fun. And I've mentioned this kind of stuff before when I'm running, I might like jog in different areas. Uh, if I'm wearing my, uh, like five finger shoes, like I'll, I'll run on grass a lot. So I'll just, I'll run on, I'm not running on people's property, but I'll run, you know, wherever there's grass that I can run on. I try to run like in soccer fields and things like that during my run, just makes it more enjoyable. It changes it up. I got to kind of run slower and run differently

because I never even really thought about this with soccer fields, but not all soccer fields are the same. They're not all like, they're not all super like flat and super even. So, uh, it challenges the ankles and stuff like that. So just try to figure out ways of making whatever it is that you're working on. Try to figure out ways to make it fun. And in addition to that, did you almost kill yourself? I broke a rock on my mat. This thing is heavy.

I love this thing. It's without a pound. Your little kettlebell. It's like a fidget spinner. Sorry, keep on. The other thing to keep in mind when things are new is to just not do that much of it. So when I was running the other day and I was working on some sprints, I was like, oh, I should do like, that felt really good. But I wanted to do four sprints and I got to five and I still wanted to do another one. And I was like, no, because like

usually the last one is like where you go, oh, I was just going to do one more and I got hurt. So I was like, nope, I already exceeded the amount that I even wanted to do. I haven't been practicing sprinting. So just, you know, when it's time to pack it up, it's time to pack it up and that's it. And same thing goes with jujitsu or anything else you're trying. You're only going to get so good at it in one day. Work on having the ability to come back for another day. Strength is never a weakness. Weakness is never strength.

Catch you guys later. Bye.