Mark Bell's Power Project - EP. 256 - Tiny Tiff Leung

Episode Date: September 28, 2019

Road Trip! We stopped off at CSA Gym in Dublin CA to podcast with some of the very best athletes they have to offer, starting with Tiny Tiff Leung, a former soccer player turned competitive powerlifter and currently holds the All-Time World Record Squat at 308.6lbs along with the All-Time World Record Total at 804.7lbs in the 97lb weight class. Tiff trains out of Combat Sports Academy in Dublin, CA and trains employees at Google. Yes, that Google. Subscribe to the Podcast on all platforms: Subscribe to the Podcast on on Platforms! ➢https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast Visit our sponsors: ➢Piedmontese Beef: https://www.piedmontese.com/ Use Code "POWERPROJECT" at checkout for 25% off your order plus FREE 2-Day Shipping on orders of $99 ➢Perfect Keto: http://perfectketo.com/powerproject Use Code "POWERPROJECT" at checkout for 15% off your order! ➢Quest Nutrition: https://www.questnutrition.com/ Use code "MARKSQUEST" at checkout for 20% of your order! ➢SHOP NOW: https://markbellslingshot.com/ Enter Discount code, "POWERPROJECT" at checkout and receive 15% off all Sling Shots FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell ➢ Snapchat: marksmellybell Follow The Power Project Podcast ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/MarkBellsPowerProject Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/  Podcast Produced by Andrew Zaragoza ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz #PowerProject #Podcast #MarkBell

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Hello, hello. Hi. How are we doing? We're good. Doing good. We're real good. Hey. Hey.

I'm sitting by myself. I think so. You're sitting next to my Jets hat. Not too bad. So you never poop in this toilet here at CSA? I'm like poop shy. There's two of us. I call it going public.

I actually prefer it. Why? I've traded myself into it, I think. Yeah. Do you wait for people to come in and then? No, no, I'm not that weird. The airport is actually a pretty good spot to

take a dump. Well, because you showed me the hack, though. Go ahead and tell her about the special room. Oh, yeah. The room, yeah. The mommy room, where they're changing the kids and stuff. Every once in a while, you have an angry mom, though, standing there with two or three crying babies, and you're like, whoops. And it smells like shit, and they go in there and stuff. Every once in a while you have like an angry mom that was standing there with like two or three crying babies

and you're like, whoops. And it smells like shit and they go in there and shit in their face. That's true. That's true. And you can't get away with,

I'm sorry, I don't know who was in here before me, but somebody and they're looking at you like, you're the only person in here, asshole. Yeah.

It's paradise when you see that it's like open like that. It's luxurious. You have so much space, so much room for activities. Anyway, Tiny Tiff, you've been putting up some points on the scoreboard in powerlifting.

What are some of your numbers? I've hit 340 on my squat. What? 155 on my bench, and then deadlift 350. And then what body weight were you doing some of those? 97. Holy shit And are those world records?

The 340 isn't I did that after Record Breakers But Getting close? I mean I probably could Do that in November Yeah what's the all time world record in the squat? Is 314

It was by me Oh it is by you I just hit more in training Like a month after What's the all-time world record in the squat? It's 314. Oh. It was by me. Oh, it is by you. Yeah. Well, there we go. I just hit more in training. Oh, okay. Like a month after.

And then has your record been broken since, or you'd still be just breaking your own record? I would just be breaking my own record. How'd you get into powerlifting? Funny story. So I was playing club soccer at San Jose State, and one of the girls on my team said there was a really cute guy on the powerlifting team. And so she told me to come check it out.

So, of course, I went. He wasn't that cute. But that's kind of how I got into it. And then I stopped playing soccer. And powerlifting is just kind of easy to do on your own, but also cool to do with a team. But it was something that kept me competitive in a sport. So that's how I got into powerlifting. And then from there, I started doing personal training.

Powerlifting team in college? What was that? I mean, what does that entail? I haven't really heard of that until more recently, maybe the last three or four years or so. Yeah, so we kind of just met up on Saturdays and like everyone was there and kind of lifted. We had a coach, but he was a great guy. There wasn't a lot of programming. It was just kind of like, okay, you're coming in. You're going to squat, bench, and deadlift.

There wasn't a lot of like technique work just because there's like 15 of us in there um but they need enough people to be considered a team and get funding so that's part of the reason why I joined um and then like a month later the coach was like hey uh if you want to stay on the team you have to compete because um we can't just hold you a spot but there weren't that many people so really I probably could have not competed but it was fun I probably did like five meets that year just because he was paying for it so I kind of got paid to do it he was paying for our food and like paying for the travel and everything so he took probably 10 of us, whoever wanted to go compete. And we went down to LA. We did collegiate nationals in Texas. So that was all within like a year of me powerlifting.

I had no clue what I was doing. There weren't very many girls. Um, there were probably like five girls. Yeah. So the first meet I did, um, I didn't have a belt. I had to order a singlet. Um, I didn't know how to weigh in. I didn't know anything.

So it was kind of cool to start when it wasn't so big and there was no pressure on how much you could lift. Were you close to the same weight that you are now? Yeah, I just put on a lot more muscle. Okay. And I eat a little better. But yeah, I've been 97, 105 kind of since then. Yeah. How was some of that, uh, uh, from a social aspect? Was it, uh, was it good for you? Like, did you, uh, maybe

start to interact with more people or were you always, uh, were you outgoing or? I would say, uh, powerlifting actually really helped me with being more social not that I wasn't before but I just got a lot more confidence and just really didn't care what people thought anymore so um and it a lot of my friends are now from the gym like I don't really talk to a lot of people that I was before I guess just because the mindset's different um I just kind of cared more about my body and getting stronger and just being better and helping people than I did about going out and drinking. Do you, uh, worry about your like body weight?

Do you worry about your, uh, like looks and appearance a lot? Or is it more about like the weights that you're moving? Like, how do you kind of balance some of that? It's been kind of a struggle back and forth. Um, I feel like girls, it's harder with the body image and everything. Um, so when I first started, I kind of was trying to stay under 97, so I didn't have to cut a lot. And, um, Jesse would just always tell me to eat more and I was like, I can't gain weight, Jesse. Um, but really it's because I wasn't eating a lot. I thought I was eating a lot, but once I kind of started seeing my strength get better when I was eating more, I kind of just had

to trust that that's what I had to do. But it is a struggle every once in a while when I do gain more weight. I'm just kind of like, I feel like I look disgusting. But a lot of the guys at the gym are just like, you look fine. Like, you just, like, your legs are bigger, which means you're squatting more. And sometimes it helps with the weight. Sometimes I just feel mentally, like, fat, which, I mean, I'm 110 pounds sometimes. And I'm like, I feel fat, which everybody else is like, well, that's nothing. fat which everybody else is like well that's that's nothing um but it sometimes does affect my lifting when i think that i'm bigger than i should be um but yeah i struggle back and forth

with it um i don't know but when i see my numbers go up that's when i kind of go back to like okay there's a reason why i'm gaining weight right now and i know i can lose it by the time like meats are coming up so what do you tell girls that are kind of going through that same scenario where they're they might be chasing a certain way but then they're looking in the mirror like oh like i'm not really liking what i'm seeing uh like a lot of my clients are like that um i mean they're obviously not power lifting but they're also trying to get stronger. I tell them, like, you have one, what is your main goal, I guess? Like, are you trying to get stronger or are you trying to get leaner? Because a lot of times it's hard to do both, right?

So I try to get them to look at the big picture and, like, you have one or two bad days and you can look a lot badder than you really are. You have one or two bad days, and you can look a lot badder than you really are. So I tell them if they fall off, like, give it a few days and, like, just start eating a little better and see. Like, it doesn't, your weight doesn't come on in one day. Like, you're not going to keep all that weight on. So. Sometimes it's important to have a certain goal in mind and to kind of go for it. So like if you, you know, are feeling chubby or you feel like you gained a little bit of weight, if you have a competition

coming up, you probably shouldn't change too many things. Now's not the time to start to try to make yourself skinnier going into a powerlifting. Yeah, I know a lot of people, a lot of people do that. And so you just want to try to have a goal and then you can set the goal. And then once you obtain the goal, then you can switch things up. And I think that people sometimes are trying to think of how they can, uh, you know, make a change like, you know, right now. And it's like, well, don't chase after two things at one time, you know? Yeah. So I think, uh, I've been working with Stan with the vertical diet. And, um, so I did that going up to my last meet. And then i took like a week or two off i was i was still in costa rica so i kind of enjoyed myself there and came back for a week

and kind of wasn't sticking to everything but getting back into it knowing that i have a meet in a few weeks like just going back on that i've already started to lose weight like i know that if i stick to eating as much as i should my weight's gonna come off like it was before i just have to trust it which which sometimes is hard. I feel like you eat more, you're going to gain weight. But trusting it, like I've lost more weight eating more than not. Before the vertical diet, what were you doing? I was eating a lot.

Yeah, Tiff, what were you doing? Well, I trained at this gym with Jeremy, who goes to the gas station and eats. And then there's Jesse, who was kind of recovering from the surgery. And before that, everybody here was just eating donuts and burgers and Chick-fil-A. The Chick-fil-A is down the street, In-N-Out is right next to it. Ice cream. I was having a lot of ice cream. So, I mean mean that's kind of what i was doing before and it wasn't not working it was working for what it should do i

gained a lot of weight on it um but yeah that's what i was doing before i wasn't really tracking a lot i just ate a lot are you tracking now with the vertical diet like tracking your macros and stuff um mostly the protein making sure you get enough protein and then um the fat a little bit but everything else is just when it gets like when i was getting closer to the meat i was so that i knew how much i had to cut back um and not sacrifice like strength and eating so i think this the last meet i did when i was on the vertical diet was the first meet i kind of trusted myself to eat the day before weigh-ins and like i had three meals before like that night and i felt great um and i didn't have to do a bath or i didn't have to do water cut or anything so that was really nice to be able to like trust it and i weighed in a little light

so i could eat more um but yeah do you do uh pretty big weight cuts um last year for record breakers i think i did like a 12 pound weight cut and that's a lot in your frame it's a ton so i say that and like jeremy like jeremy had to cut like 25 pounds and basically it was like the same body percentage but you tell people like 10 pounds. And basically it was, like, the same body percentage. But you tell people, like, 10 pounds, and people in powerlifting are like, oh, 10 pounds, that's fine. I'm like, well, that's, like, the equivalent of a bigger guy cutting, like, 25 pounds. So that was, I mean, it was kind of terrible. But I think this year going into it I'll be lighter, so it won't be as terrible.

Tell us about fat shaming. Fat shaming. I like fat shaming. Like, I think it's fun. Everybody else hates it. What's fat shaming and who made it up? I think Jesse made it up. And it's like literally just moving any faster than you normally would. I like to do box jumps and run sleds. Most people will... That's like your form of cardio here at CSA. Yeah, it's fat shaming. Most of the guys here will probably pull a sled and sweat

and then be like, oh, I'm sweaty, I'm done. But a lot of people sometimes don't do it. I try to get everyone to do it and everyone hates me. Is there, other than maybe being other than like working towards being less fat is there any other reason for the fat shaming you think uh i think getting people moving more uh just especially after the workout like just mobility moving um because a lot of us i think we don't move a lot like power lifters think we don't move a lot. Like powerlifters just don't. My health with recovery. Yeah, getting the blood flowing back in there.

Yeah, most of us don't move a lot after we work out. We're like, okay, max one, we're done. We're going to go home and eat. So I think it keeps us in the gym a little more, and it helps with just feeling better. I don't know. Do you ever feel like moving more because of your background in soccer does it kind of feel just like being at home or

still out of your comfort zone doing that stuff? No I love doing it, I feel at home I like doing the sprints, I get in trouble and then Jeremy always pulls a hamstring so I get in more trouble but I I love doing all of it and it's more fun when people do it and you get to like race against people, you do more weight than people. Um, so I've gone a time

where we've gotten like six people out there and we're sprinting and, and then someone gets hurt and then I get in trouble. How long have you been training here for? I think four years. I can't really remember. Uh, but me and Jeremy actually just figured out that we both came in at the same time. And we both thought that we both were here longer than, like, I thought he was been here, like, way before I was. And he literally probably came in a week before I did. And so it's weird how timing works. I've lived in this area all my life.

But I never knew Jesse was here until I knew Tony Montgomery from like a meet. And I saw him here with Jesse. I'm like, I should probably check this out. This is like five minutes from my house. So, yeah, I think four years. Time flies when you're having fun. Did your coach, Jesse Burdick, ever make you take a lap? Many laps.

I've seen him do it to Jeremy a bunch of times. You know what? If Jeremy missed a bench, he's like, take a lap, and he makes him run around the building. So he tells me not to take laps because I move too much. So he takes laps away from me. But I haven't done that in a while.

Is that something he uses to calm you guys down or something? No, it's more like you did something stupid. Go take a lap. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah. And Seamus never made a mistake, so he's like, what is this? Oh, come on, man. I don't understand this.

No, like, okay. He's perfect. Isn't he, though? Well, we saw him doing that exercise over there, and that was the first time he's done it, and you look perfect doing it. The hip thrust, right? No, no. Jesse showed me a lot of stuff that I was doing wrong.

But why was the hip thrust station the first thing you went to, though? Because my glutes were not firing well. I was sitting all day in the car. Activating thrusting, huh? So you don't know how to thrust your hips? No. What are you saying? I'm horrible at that.

Aw. Absolutely horrible at that. Are you single? I'm absolutely horrible at that. Wait, are you single? It's another podcast. Yeah. At least I don't think he's single. You're still... Yes. Okay, just making sure? It's another podcast. Yeah. At least I don't think he's

single. You're still, you're still. Yes. Okay. Just making sure. It's been a rough night. Oh, Tiff, checking out your Instagram. It, you're, you train at more places than just this location. Where else are you getting in your workout? Um, I started working at Google in San Francisco as a personal trainer. So I'm out there Monday, Wednesday, Fridays. So I try to get in my workouts when I can out there because I'm out there from, I start at 6.30, I end at 6. So if I can squeeze in time in there, I try to get whatever I can. I've talked to Jesse about kind of what I should prioritize. So if I have 30 minutes, I try to get my dynamic bench in and then

assess rework between clients. Um, but yeah, so I'm out there, um, three days a week. So, and then I also have a home gym that I built. I train my clients out of there. Um, so when I have time, I like to train in there if I can't get into CSA. What the heck are you doing at Google? Uh, I do personal training,. It's been really fun. Do you just tell them to go to the sleep pods? No, I shouldn't. Honestly, I have clients that I make just walk because they just sit all day, and then they have food access to every floor, cafe, everything's free.

So they just eat and sit all day um so a lot of the work i do with them is mobility just getting them to move and like want to be at the gym um i think the coolest thing is when they come back and tell me hey i did this yesterday like when i didn't see you um when they went from literally not doing anything before i started training them and they're doing things on their own they're getting their like parents involved they're getting their like boyfriends or girlfriends involved um so i like i train people here i train like a lot of moms around here um but it's i like working with all the different clienteles because it's so different i get to learn different things. You can just talk into them. They have different mindsets. You get some that are really driven,

and they do whatever you tell them to do. Tell them, tracking everything, tell me your weight every day, and I'll get text messages every day with what they're weighing, what they're eating. And how did you get involved with Google like that? eating. And how did you get involved with Google like that? Uh, there was a guy that actually worked, worked out here. He was interning with Jesse. Um, his name is, we call him Sid. He's summer intern Dave. His name is Dave. Um, but he started working at Google, um, before me. And then he asked me if I want to work there. The first time he asked me, uh, was down in Mountain View and I didn't want to commute. so I gave up that. And I was like, hopefully that comes back around because working at Google, like, who doesn't want that experience, right?

But at that time, it just didn't work out. And he came back around in April and was like, they need female trainers at Google in San Francisco. And that commute was a lot better. I could take BART down there. And that commute was a lot better. I could take BART down there. So that's how I got in. I actually knew the guy hiring too. So that was kind of cool how it's such a small world. I worked with him maybe a year ago. And so it's cool that we have like four guys that used to work out at CSA that all work there now. And I had a few clients ask me, hey, do you guys do the same programming? We're like, well, we have the same guy that like taught us a lot of the stuff we know.

So for the most part, you're going to see the main movement, but it's obviously programmed towards what your weaknesses are and stuff like that. So that's how I get started there. Do you use a squat bench and deadlift with your clients? Every single workout. Yeah. I mean, we do squat or bench, squat or deadlift, and then bench or overhead press, and then accessory work.

Why do you think more women shouldn't be scared to try some powerlifting? Because it's not going to make you bulky. It's going to make you strong. Every single girl that I've had or female had lifting, squat, bench, deadlift, all that, like they all just feel better about themselves. Like their confidence just starts going through the roof and you can tell that they're excited to be strong and they want to be in the gym which every single one that I had start they're like I don't know what to do here I'm intimidated by everything I think

the first thing I tell them is half the people in here don't know what they're doing either like that's kind of the truth like and sometimes people that do know what they're doing they're doing it wrong so when you go in there like you're probably doing it better than the people that are in the gym. I do a woman's strength class here. I have about, like, 10 to 12 girls on any given night. They go to the gym and they'll come back and they go to 24 to do their, like, homework that I give them. They'll come back and tell me me I watched this guy do squats and I can squat more than him and he's not even squatting all the way like he doesn't know what

he's doing like that's so cool that you guys like can tell like I feel comfortable with most of the girls in that class like teaching someone else how to do it because I've taught them from the ground up and they've helped girls at the gym so it's cool to see them start to share the knowledge and be excited about telling me all that did you realize like when was it that you realized that you I guess had world-class strength was it early in the strength career or later on honestly some days I don't even like think about that. I, I'm just like, I feel like I come in and I just train, like, that's not really what's in the back of my mind, I guess. I don't know if that's weird or not, but. Was there a point though, where you looked at like

a record or Jesse Burdick maybe mentioned a record to you and you were like, hmm, maybe I could do that? So the first time I broke a world record, that was kind of like, I wasn't, I was training here. It was probably my first few months here. Um, and I was training with, uh, Zach Trahan. Um, and I texted him, I screenshotted the world record for the squat and I'm like, Hey, do you think I could squat 270? And he's like, why? I'm like, well, it's kind of the all-time world record, and I think I could get there. And that was kind of the start of it. So probably like four years ago was when I started to kind of look at it.

I don't think I looked at it before. But I come into training, and I don't really think about those. I just think about getting better and what I can do to be stronger. Why do you think you were gifted something like that? Obviously, you worked really hard for it as well, but that's pretty rare for somebody three or four years into something and only a few weeks or months into it here with a good coach. Why you? Why do you think you possess that ability?

Any idea? I have never thought about it. I've never thought about it. I, I don't know. Is there something in the gene pool? Like his mama strong or something like that? Your dad's strong or something like that? No, I just like, I try to get my mom to work out and she will not work out.

Is it, do you think maybe it's some of the years of soccer? I think soccer has helped a lot. Your mindset, maybe some things like that have kind of contributed to some of this? Yeah, so I think soccer helped a lot. My leg strength is obviously a lot better. I wish that I did gymnastics or swimming. When I have kids, they're doing one of those. I feel like lower body strength is a lot easier to get, especially for females.

So my kids are doing swimming and gymnastics. But I think my mindset, coming here, I think my mindset has totally changed. And I think that's what's helped me keep going towards records and keep getting stronger. Just being around Jesse know you know him like he just there's so much to learn from him and like seeing how he works and seeing how he not even just in the gym like his life like with his daughters and with katie like it makes me want to be a better person i'm gonna cry now this is weird um it just makes me want to be. Hey, you said it was going to be awkward. I'm crying talking about Jesse.

I think he just made me, like, such a better person and, like, want to get better every day. Right. That makes sense. It's okay to cry. It's all right. Yeah, Jesse is a unique coach. I mean, like, he's going to be, like, right on top of you. How involved is he like I know you've been training for a while so you're probably uh helping coach some other people

and stuff and uh you got you know Jeremy and you got a lot of strong men and women here now so maybe he doesn't have to be like right on top of everyone all the time but as a team you guys probably all try to help each other out right right? Yeah. Like, it really does feel like a family here. Like, I know I can go to Sean or Kyle or Jeremy, Joanne, about, like, watching my videos and critiquing it. And, like, even outside the gym. Like, me and Jeremy, we went to a movie last night. We watched Rambo last night.

Any good? A lot of destruction? There was a lot. I mean, there's a lot of good ways I saw on how to kill people so i just gotta get some knives and some throwing practice but um but like i don't remember the question now you all just hang out together quite a bit even outside the gym yeah and like oh jesse being on top of everybody. I feel like for me, I'll ask him when I, like I know when I need him to spot me, when I need him to watch me. I record my set so I can show him if he's not watching,

but most of the time he's kind of out of the corner of his eye watching. He'll tell me if like something looks weird or I'm off, which is all the time. I don't know what I'm doing half the time. But yeah, so he's not on top of me as much as, like, I feel like some coaches might be, which I like because it keeps me more accountable with, like, knowing how my body works and how my body, like, what weights to jump. Like, I kind of check in with him before the workout

and write down, like, what my temps are going to be, and then he just looks at it and if it looks weird he'll adjust it but usually he won't say this we usually have the same numbers in mind but yeah i'm curious about this because okay you're at the top of your weight class and a lot of athletes even if they're not they sometimes have other athletes that they're competing with you know like they're like oh that person's catching up or i'm catching up to them you breaking your own records how do you continue to push yourself to just continue to break records because no one's breaking your records right yeah um i mean i kind of look at well especially here there's no one training in my weight class so i kind of just look at the girls that are around,

and I try to hit what they're hitting or close to what they're hitting. And even if they're 30, 40 pounds heavier than me, like, that's kind of what I'm striving for because that's what I have to compete against here. And then being able to, like, train with them because I can hit the same amount of weight with them, I think that's the coolest part for me um yeah is uh Jesse's voice kind of creep into your head all the time

like like all day like even when you're not in the gym yes all the time like when I do something stupid like Jesse would just shake his head like even just as shaking his head at me which is most the time when I'm here like I can picture that every time i do something stupid but the scariest part is uh when i'm training people i start to sound like jesse they start to like do things that jesse does here and like oh shit you hit people he always hits people no i don't do that but like he always pokes at people like hit some he's like he's like jarring you i do do that sometimes but it does make you kind of wake up you know whatever muscle you're trying to work you're like oh yeah that's yeah it's scary how much like i i've talked to jeremy about it and

how he trains people he's like yeah i just start saying saying things that jesse says and i'm like oh shit like what just happened happening to all of us it just starts happening and I don't know how to stop it how does he coach you is he negative or is he positive uh does he make fun of you like each person needs a different shit right yeah he makes fun of me a lot but when it comes down to like when I'm lifting um I don't know how to get angry and so he's tried that before and it doesn't work i just like cry and so i think he's kind of gotten to a point where it's like okay tiff like you can do this like let's go and then it's kind of quiet from there yeah jeremy is like that too he's got a big old smile on his face every time he's lifting i think it's's because of what Jesse's created here. The environment.

I don't have a lot to be angry about. I feel like maybe I'd be better and a little more focused sometimes if I did have any tragic thing happen to me, but I've had a pretty good life. I live here and I have a great job. I have great friends.

I have great family. I don't have a lot to be angry about so come in and play powerlifter right yeah I like try to get angry I just cry if I do so I just I don't know now I'm really curious about this because like no no this like a lot of weird that's not that's awesome a little bit so then when you're doing something really heavy or when you think back to your world record lifts, right, what goes through your head? Because a lot of powerlifters have to get angry. In those moments, were you angry or were you just focused? It was more focused.

I mean, I don't know how you guys feel when you've competed. Like, everything's kind of a blur to me. I don't really see anything when I'm out there. And when I do, that's when I'm screwed because that's when I'm thinking. And when I think nothing's ever good. And Jesse tells me not to think all the time. But yeah, I, when I train, I try to like think about the lifts that I've made. Before I would like kind of think about all the neck, like when I was kind of in a little

funk, I would think about like, oh, like when I was kind of in a little funk, I would think about like, Oh, I couldn't do this last time. Like, can I do it now? And I think mindset is such a big thing. Um, so I just had to start thinking about like when I've hit it, how much I've done in training and that's been, what's helped me get past like PRs and stuff like that. So, yeah. How do you deal with, like, being happy with what you got? You mentioned, like, getting into a little bit of a funk.

I think we all have a tendency to kind of look at other people and what they're doing and think that that's somehow better. Or we have a tendency to worry about what other people think of us and things like that. How do you kind of feel good about like you set world records and now like if you're not at a world record status, you know, you hold yourself to that standard or you bend lighter body weights and different things like that. How do you, how do you hold it all together? Um, I think about everything that goes into it. Like I used to not think about sleep and recovery a lot, but since I started working at Google and since I've gotten a lot more clientele, like my recovery isn't as good as it was before. Like when I wasn't working so much, like I could sleep, I could eat, like I come in here and I'd hang out here like for five hours. So I had a lot more free time, a lot more time to like not do anything and let my body be like relaxed when I was hitting like more PRs more frequently but now I'm like well I'm working more I'm hitting like life PRs like I think that's cooler than

like nothing against powerlifting and hitting PRs here but like I think that's kind of cooler like I don't make very much money doing powerlifting. If anything, I spend way more money on powerlifting and all the food. So I kind of put it into perspective, this isn't my job. This is fun. And once I was thinking about it as a job, that's when I got in that funk. I was like, okay, I need to hit these numbers. I have nothing else. So I think I have nothing else. Like, so I think looking at, like, putting it into perspective of what the priorities are. Like, it's definitely a top, like, one of my top priorities. But I have so much more going on in my life now that, like, I don't know.

It's cool to go out and, like, hit records. But I also like making money and, like, having a career. Power lifting is just what you do. It's not who you are. Yeah. It's hard to remember that sometimes. And, I mean, I feel like there's a lot of people that try to make it who they are. I mean, that's cool, but I don't know how much you're going to make from that.

And then my body stops working. Like, what am I going to do? Like, I can't lift weights. Like, I have a lot more going for me than just that so so like now that you're working at Google and you how long have you been doing that by the way I started in April April yeah okay so before that happened like you were focusing on powerlifting but now that you're doing that like what I, I guess, where do you see yourself heading? What do you like, what do you want to end up continue like doing? Do you want to continue ending going down the training route? Like how do you want to,

what do you want to do? Yeah. So a year ago, if you asked me that, I would have told you, I have no clue what I want to do. Um, but I like, it's really hard because I love training people and I know a lot of people do like online training to get like in more clientele, you make more money, but I like the one-on-one, like I like the connections I have with my clients, like knowing that I could actually call them on the weekend and be like, Hey, do you want to hang out? Or like, Hey, I'm in trouble. Like I got in a car accident last week or not last week last month and I had to cancel on a few clients and they're like do you need me to come out there and like pick you up like I think that's the coolest thing um so it's kind of hard for me to really figure out what I

want to do but I want to stay on this path of like training people um I just went to like a summit at Exos and it's like human performance and all this stuff. And seeing the people there and how passionate they are about human movement, I think that's something that I want to get more into, is more of the nitty-gritty of how people move and how to move them better. I think with what I'm doing right now, just getting them moving is the hard part. But starting to break down why things are breaking down in their body I think that's kind of the next path I want to start to get more into um breaking things down more I don't know well you have a good coach to ask questions

too because there's nobody nerdier than Jesse have you ever like read a book or an article or heard anything about strength training and then gone to Jesse about it and he hasn't heard of it before? No, he looks at me like I'm stupid. I'm like, Hey, I read this book. Like I just got this book. He goes, yeah. Yeah. Like it's like I read it five years ago. Yeah. Great. There's, I think when I started getting body work done, I like the guy told me about this book. And so I got in like, shows you all the trigger points and like, Oh, this, this controls this and all this stuff. I'm like, Jesse, I got this book and so I got it and like shows you all the trigger points and like oh this controls this and all this stuff. I'm like Jesse I got this book like look at these trigger points. He goes

okay. I'm like and then I'm like okay I just feel really stupid now. It's probably something he told you about like three years ago too. That's probably why he. That you didn't listen to right? Yes. 100%. But yeah everything that I've kind of come to him he has an answer to,

and he knows. So it's really cool that he has answers, and then just the network that he has and, like, you guys have, like, being able to, like, I got to go to Coach House's seminar in, I don't remember when, earlier this year. So that was really cool. Like having that connection and being able to talk to him. I've talked to him a few times through Instagram and social media has been really awesome in that sense. Like I've been connected with a lot

of people that I could ask questions to about that stuff. If like, like Jesse's busy all the time and I feel like I bug him half the time. So I can ask other people too. And like, they'll respond. Like, it's cool to have so much knowledge in social media that I can trust because I know people that know them, not just because they have 200,000 followers and like they post things every

day. Like I don't trust half those people. When's your next meet coming up, by the way? I'm doing Slingshot Record Breakers. Woohoo! Yeah, so we'll see what I can do for my squat. Are you heading for some records there? I think so.

Squat in total. So we'll see. Me and Jesse have kind of talked about staying at 97 or going up a weight class after this. So if this is going to be my last at 97, probably go really heavy on the squat. We'll see. But, yeah. How crazy is it?

You know, you're chasing your own records, but you're training around Jeremy Avila. Like, do you guys go back and forth on anything? Or is it like a brother-sister type of vibe? Or is it you guys just mainly encouraging each other? or is it like a brother-sister type of vibe, or is it you guys just mainly encouraging each other? It's more like a brother-sister vibe. Yeah, he's kind of moody when he trains. I feel like, I hope he doesn't get mad at me. But yeah, kind of up and down sometimes.

So I feel like we're too, we don't't lift the same i guess our training isn't the same mentality um especially because he lifts so much heavier than i do like it's so much more taxing on him to do like his heavy stuff um and with work and everything like our schedules have been like he'll get here an hour earlier than me or i'll get here an hour later or earlier and so we kind of catch each other most of the time we catch each other when we're going for those maxes and we cheer each other on it's really cool to have him like he's like the best cheerleader so when he sucks when he's having a bad day he's a great cheerleader yeah well I also imagine because you're really focused and Jeremy will walk up to the bar and be like, oh, I just hit a PR and I accidentally forgot to wear a belt. Yeah, I hate it.

Because like he'll hit a PR and you're just like, so you don't need to warm up? Like what? I don't understand. Like you just got here like 10 minutes ago and you're just jumping in with everybody else. So I wish I could train like him like I take 20 minutes to warm up and everyone's like can you hurry up like we're trying to work out together I'm like well I just don't want to get hurt again like I take that extra time to warm up and stuff um but I'm jealous of the way he can train because he can walk up and just hit PRs.

I'm like, it took me a year to get all of this, and I just hit a five-pound PR. You guys have had a lot of people hit world records in this gym, and you guys use some training that's a little unconventional compared to what a lot of other people consider to work well for raw training. You guys use a conjugate west side barbell system. Talk about that a little bit. What's that mean? Bands, chains, max effort, dynamic effort.

I love it. So before I started training this way, I was doing what everyone else does. I was like, I would squat, bench, and deadlift every day. And I just try to max out all the time um but it's really helped like the bands i think have helped my squat a lot deadlifts um uh i don't know it just lets me like try to hit PRs on those max effort days, but it's just different because it spans and chains, and it kind of makes you feel good because you could hit a PR every week.

And you don't know what it is, really. Yeah, so Jesse changes it every two weeks because that's how it is. But I like it, too, because if I hate that movement, the accessory movement, I know it's going to be over in two weeks. And then it won't come back for a few more months um so i like how it changes all the time and works on different weaknesses that like you didn't know like my least favorite is like a one board press and we do a lot of conventional and then sumo deadlift pulls. So going back and forth, like I used to hate conventional deadlifts.

And now like I want to do them more than sumo. It's really weird. And I pull better off a deficit. So I don't know. I like all the different stuff because it definitely helps with different weaknesses. And I feel stronger some days. I feel weak some days. And I'm like, it's because what we're doing. That's why I'm weak today like it's not because I didn't sleep enough

do you thrive off of like variation and training do you enjoy that more than if you were doing a lot of the same stuff for weeks on end yeah I think for me like like I was telling you I like doing all that like cardio all that running shit um I like doing different things all the time because if I get stuck in one spot, I just, like, I get bored. I don't know. I feel like maybe a lot of powerlifters do like the everyday, like the grind of the same thing over and over again because you know what you're doing. But I like all the different stuff because if he doesn't program it,

I'm going to do it on my own and I'm going to get in trouble. So at least half of it's his program. Yeah. Cool. Where can people find you? I'm at CSA Gym. And then on Instagram, TinyTiff97.

That's all I got. And you'll be at Slingshot Record Breakers. I will be at Slingshot Record Breakers on Sunday. Before we head out, you are a world record holder. Do you hold any world record poop stories? I don't have any. Girls don't poop. Smokey's looking at you.

Girls don't poop. I think that actually might be true. It's true. Girls don't poop. I don't poop here. I don't poop in public. I don't poop. I think that actually might be true. It's true. Girls don't poop. I don't poop here. I don't poop in public. I don't poop. She holds it in.

She's full of shit. Where does it come out then? What do you mean? One day when I have a poop, I'll have a really big story, I guess. And I will let you guys know. It's going to be really compacted in there. I hope. You might poop out a diamond.

I might fill up this know. It's going to be really compacted in there. I hope. You might poop out a diamond. I might fill up this building. I hope. I hope it happens on Slingshot Record Breakers. That would be a record-breaking poop. Yeah, we'll stream it live. Perfect. It's a different stream. Strength is never a weakness.

Weakness is never a strength. Catch you all later.