Mark Bell's Power Project - EP. 263 - Was it Really Worth it?

Episode Date: October 8, 2019

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Yeah, that Nitro machine, though, I mean, if you've seen it, it looks like, you know, the things that they have behind bars. Yeah. Right? So it's a complex machine. It's only one person in the whole building knows how to run it. It's one of those things. It's like, oh, you know, Eric's not here today, so it's out of order. And you're like, fuck that, man.

I want everyone to know how to run that thing. I want my nitro cold brew. But he's the only one that's certified to be able to use it, and you're allowed one certification per location. So because we didn't get our nitro, because we didn't get our coffee the way that we wanted, we needed to amp this thing up, and we threw some nootropics in it from our boys over at Perfect Keto. Yeah, not your everyday nootropic like at perfect keto yeah not your everyday nootropic

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Just totally zoned in. Exactly. You get in that flow state way quicker than you normally would if you were to take, I don't know, if you weren't to take anything. If you were to take straight coffee, you can get some productivity done. But with this, it just helps the focus. It helps your mental clarity. And on top of all that, when you mix it with coffee, it tastes incredible. And a nootropic is kind of just like food for your brain in a way, right?

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But, okay. So, you know, anyone who pays attention to Jiu-Jitsu, this past weekend was ADCC. And ADCC is probably the biggest no-gi grappling Jiu-Jitsu tournament in the world. It happens every two years. Like, the Olympics happens every four years.

ADCC is every two years. So it's not even an every-year type of deal. If you it's not even an every year type of deal if you want to be the best at nogi if you want to prove you're the best you go to adcc you compete and you win so watching adcc shit got me excited but shit also got me really scared because a lot of guys knees and feet like and women too like shit was popping and when i was watching i was like wow like these are some really good grapplers but when i when i roll with people right i know at the top levels of competition you're trying to win but like you can put on like a leg lock or a knee bar or something without breaking your like with like without breaking your opponent's knee like when it's in it's in okay but a lot of these guys when they put it on they put it on to break immediately and i get it it's

to win but at the same time it's just like like damn like do we have to like end this person's career or put them in the hospital can't like can we do things to let them tap and i i get it it's it's it kind of sounds stupid and i i get why it's it's it kind of sounds stupid and i get why it's done it's just like it's so horrible to watch and then like there's um a picture of apollo meow he and andrew has this picture i showed it to him um he rolled with this 16 year old phenom named ty rotolo ty's the one with meow's foot and meow if you're watching the video you'll probably have to look for a bit because you really can't comprehend what's happening. But look at Meow's knee.

Look at his knee. And look at his facial expression. So it's really hard to follow, but this person right here, this is his leg going the wrong way. It took me a while to figure out what the hell I was looking at. But yeah, dude, that's... And y'all want to guess who won this match the ref the guy with the broken leg the guy with the broken leg meow meow walked off and he won this match and the crazy thing is though it's like everyone talks about meow and his knees because he's he's done this in different matches before where they'll pull an ankle lock or something and his knee will turn in the wrong way.

But it's not just genetic form. He's done so much to his knee that there's a lack of ligaments there. A manipulation through the jiu-jitsu. Through jiu-jitsu. I want to do jiu-jitsu for a long time, for the rest of my life. I don't want to be 50 years old hobbling around. But I also want to get to a really, really high level. I want to compete in the gi at a high level. and a lot of guys have come out fairly unscathed

like world champion roger gracie you know he is he's considered the best gi jiu-jitsu grappler of all time and he he's good he's walking around nothing's wrong with him but this guy that's kind of the topic for today huh yeah we're trying to figure out can you go all in can you compete at a high level and still be okay like there's some nfl dudes that are walking around that are still doing pretty good there's something that seems good yeah well he's still yeah he's still playing he's 42 or something and then when we had dan severin here i think dan severin was like 60 yeah and he looked good i mean he looked like he was still in shape i asked him if he could still fight and he said no because he didn't have the conditioning but he goes i

could still grapple and i still got great conditioning i still love to work out and i still love this i still love that very active he has a job where he's driving around a lot and like he's very like cognitive and this is a guy who you know he fought in the ufc he didn't take a lot of damage though he you know at least didn't appear that way uh we got other friends we got people like jake cutler that we see jake cutler looks great to me he looks better than he's ever looked before he looks awesome he's in great shape he has a a build that at least is a little bit more obtainable for for other people yeah um and so it's like more aesthetically pleasing to your average person.

He's not 310 pounds jacked anymore, right? But then there's the flip side of things. There's some other people that are suffering, that have had great careers, that have done great things, and it's like it sucks to see Ronnie Coleman. Ronnie Coleman can barely get around, it's like it sucks to see, you know, Ronnie Coleman. You know, Ronnie Coleman can barely get around. It seemed like in some of the documentary that I saw of him, it seemed like it takes him like 20 minutes just to go from like a preacher curl machine to like a shoulder press or something like that. And it doesn't look like he's sitting around feeling sorry for himself.

He's still in the gym training. And so he's still having a good time. sitting around feeling sorry for himself. He's still in the gym training. And so he's still having a good time. Um, but I, you know, my understanding is he's had multiple surgeries on his back and his back popped during like a leg press and it just sucks. And there's a lot of examples of that. And there's guys like Ed Cohn has had to have multiple hip surgeries, but Ed also seems like he's doing well also. Right. And then we just know people that haven't really done anything all that great when it comes to athletics that are banged up to, you know, my dad's an example. My dad has had my dad was born with like, you know, shitty knees.

He's got like bow legged. Right. And then he's had was self-induced, like some of it is from his from poor dietary habits and poor general habits that have led to him having like diabetes and heart disease and some of these other things. But it's like it's almost like he went through a damn war, too. It's like he may as well played 20 years in the NFL. Right. That's kind of the question here is like, you know, I guess like is it worth it to have that thing that you wanted to pursue under your belt if it leaves you jacked up later on in life? If it takes years off your life, that's also an interesting question. We'll never really know whether it takes years off your life or not. But to kind of limp your way around the rest of your life because you because you achieved that level that you wanted to in jujitsu i don't know and that that's putting it like uh that almost i don't know it's making it sound nicer because there's people that are doing crazy shit for awesome

instagram post you know so it's like holy shit but when you guys are talking about like being like a world-class athlete i think more people are willing to say, oh, yeah, that's definitely worth it. Yeah. Right? We talked about this. I don't think we mentioned this on the podcast, but I heard about this before. And then Casio, my jujitsu instructor, mentioned it the other day because I talked to him about this. I'm like, how are these guys going this far?

And then Casio was saying how there was a survey done with Olympians. I forgot the year. I don't know the year. You guys can look this up though. And pretty much the survey said, and they asked multiple Olympians, I think a few hundred, just a few hundred or something. Okay. So today you will win the Olympics.

You will get a gold medal in your sport, but there's a 30% chance that you'll die tomorrow. I'll give you this pill and you will absolutely win today, but there's a 30% chance you'll die tomorrow. Are you going to take the pill? More than 80% said they'd take the pill. And I can tell you right now, I wouldn't fucking take the pill. I wouldn't. And so that's the thing. Do you need to have that mentality? I personally don't think you have to. And the reason why is because when I deal with things myself and also the athletes I work with, I do everything possible to make sure we're doing everything in a way that we can't get injured but we can still make progress. And I look at that for myself too when I do jujitsu. I think jujitsu is so tough too because a lot of people, if you have the mentality that you never want to lose, right? When you tap in jujitsu, you are telling your opponent, I surrender.

A big reason why a lot of people do get injured is because they don't tap in time. Because they don't want to surrender. They don't want to surrender. This is one of those things where you don't surrender, something can break. They don't want to surrender. This is one of those things where you don't surrender, something can break. But if you're so hardheaded that you choose not to surrender, boom, injury. Or even like your opponent might break your arm or your partner might pull a little bit harder on your knee bar because you're not tapping to it.

And they may break your foot or pop your knee, right? A former client of mine, Kevin Zaki, he was telling me about he's a white belt in jiu-jitsu. He's great. He's doing awesome. I'm really happy for him. He just had a tournament this weekend. I think he got second place. He's jacked. He's over in the East Coast.

But he was telling me how one of his training partners put him in a knee bar. And as a white belt, you don't necessarily, this is a tough thing that instructors need to show their students. You need to show your students where to turn or how to escape. But an upper belt did this to kevin who's a white belt and as an upper belt you should understand that white belts don't know what to do don't know how to escape but apparently he really just put it on on kevin because kevin's a big guy and kevin got a little bit of an injury so like you know with with these things it's just like there's there's, there's partner involvement, you know, you have to have smart partners, but you also got to be smart yourself to know when to bail out. But guys

like this, like, I think Andrew has another video up of Hajar Gracie, who's the best jujitsu competitor all time. And he was going against Jacare, who's famous in and of himself. And this was a match between the two and Hajar, I think had jacare in an arm bar and hajur does simple things to win but jacare didn't tap jacare's arm broke and at the end of the day jacare won that match because he let his arm break so it's just like yeah when is it when is it kind of uh yeah when is it kind of overkill when yeah. When is it kind of overkill? When is it, when is it perhaps, uh, too much, you know, one thing that you just kind of, uh, that, that, that I thought of while you were talking about this, you know, tap, you know, and, and surrender, you know, give it like, admit, admit that you're up against

it, you know, like, like it's, it's over the ride. The ride is over like this this this game that we're playing like i i won and you have to surrender to me what about when that happens just in life like a lot of times people don't tap either you go to the doctor the doctor's like sir your blood pressure is through the roof you have a clogged artery like you are going you're in a lot of trouble right now. And a lot of people don't tap. A lot of people are like, you know, they go home and not only did they not tap,

they don't tell anybody else. They don't tell their wife. They don't tell anybody because people are, people are prideful and they can sometimes be a little weird when it comes to like medical stuff and they just go about their normal life and they wake up at 5 a.m and they go to work and they don't think about it so a lot of people that aren't tapping in their in their day-to-day when they probably should because when you tap you get to continue to play the game it's like this game is over yeah this is over for now but you tap you learn from

it i'm gonna do better next time i'm not gonna end up in that same position exactly like i feel like yeah if you were watching this, his arm broke. His arm broke and he didn't tap. And then he won by points there, you know. And exactly what you're saying. And, like, I know, like, I don't know if this makes me a wimp or something, but in that situation, I would have tapped. And then I would try and go back and practice the hell out of something

so I could try and win another day. But you know, that mentality, it's like, I feel like some people have that and some people don't. And I, I kind of, I, I feel like you should have the mentality to sometimes know when to stop because I think about tomorrow, I think about weeks, months from now, because I can get another shot at this, right? If I can continue to train and get better, you know, with lifting, not going all out all the time, a lot of power lifters, we get hurt because we go out all the time in training and something happens. But if you can just have a little bit of a, I guess, longevity aspect to your training, I mean, I feel like some of the most successful athletes are some of the athletes that last the longest well and when it comes to the gym how many times

like has somebody like gone up and wait when they shouldn't have have they gotten hurt had they essentially tapped to going up and wait maybe they could hit that next week yeah or maybe even the next day yeah but no like the ego and then not wanting to submit to the weights. Yeah. So you can really have that mindset and many, many other aspects of life. Rice just outworked everything so much that he would just never be in a position to where he had to tap I'm sure maybe earlier in his career maybe he did have to like reconsider yeah some stuff but he just said at some point he was like you know what I'm never gonna I'm never gonna be that way and people used to try to do his like warm-ups that he would do and they'd throw up I mean they and this is really these are really really high level NFL players and they try to hang with them. They try to go run Hills with them and he would just, he would just smoke

everybody. So maybe someone like that made a decision. Like I want to be able to have the ability to go so full blast and so full bore that it doesn't compromise the rest of my life. He seems to be pretty healthy. He played for 20 years. I mean, he's the greatest football player that ever lived, pretty much. I mean, no one scored more touchdowns. I mean, I don't think anybody will ever catch up to the stuff that that guy's done. He was a beast. He was an animal.

He's taken a lot of shots, and he's a thin guy. He's not a big guy. Yeah. But he conditioned himself so well and had the mental side down. But also, too, he wasn't functional as a person. Like his teammates are like, yeah, I don't know anything about Jerry Rice. What do you mean? Well, he just, you know, because he was so like maybe because he was like maybe introverted, which is, you know, most people that are really successful are introverted.

Every once in a while, they're like an alpha male type of thing. But most of the time, they're very introverted. They're very like Elon Musk would be considered to be like weird. Like, man, that guy is weird. He's sitting over there and he's like smelling the wires that go into the machine or something, you know, because he's just different, right? Like I don't even know if that's what he does but i'm just saying like people are strange right because these strange little little quirks you know that make them special and make them different and sometimes in some cases in in the case of the really high level athletes sometimes uh the main driver of what they have is just to be totally fucking crazy

and to be like totally reckless but in jerry rice's case a lot of the people that were you know trying to be close to him a lot of people that were you know trying to do right by him trying to be like his teammate he like wasn't having it because he couldn't he just couldn't have normal relationships so yeah um he was so far on that one is that worth it you know like so he did play 20 years he is the greatest player or one of the greatest players of all time. But then it's like, where does he or Barry Bonds? Like Barry Bonds played the game and he was amazing. I love Barry Bonds.

I'm a huge fan. But like Barry Bonds was a dick. You know what I mean? Like, is it where is it? You know, it's a huge burden to be one of these people i can't even imagine but there's some people that have navigated it uh without being a dick without being an asshole you know so it's it brings up a lot of interesting things like is it would it even feel good to be him or does it feel horrible to be him because he's never satisfied yeah

jerry rice in today's nfl would have been even scarier really why do you say that because the game is so like tailored towards scoring and being more exciting so like back in these days like you could actually touch the wide receiver and today you can't even look his direction before you get a pass interference call but i remember uh it was rougher yeah jerry rice there was a commercial he's like you know people tell me that i'm you know i'm the best player or something like that and he's like i wouldn't say that i would just say i worked the hardest i remember that was the first time where i was like oh if i want to be good at something i gotta work really hard i agree with that i mean that yeah also look at kobe like

i think kobe tours achilles at some point his career came back right and kobe's also known to have worked extremely hard yeah right it's just like practice for everyone there after everybody left and everything. And he's coming out of his career. Yeah. With a torn Achilles. But Kobe Bryant's pretty damn healthy. I know. I understand that basketball is a very different sport than jujitsu. It's a very different sport than lifting and football. But, you know, even when I look at powerlifting and I even made a video about like five reasons why you should start jujitsu. And I, I, in that video,

I put that like, it's a relatively like safe martial art. It's not full contact, but I feel like, well, you said something. I think you said something about like parameters or something like it's, it's you.

It really depends on, I guess how smart you are about it or how you go about it. Like you could go at jujitsu and get hurt on your first day. If you, if you, if you don't tap, you could get yourself hurt and powerlifting if you're maxing out every single week. But it really just depends on, I guess, strategizing and navigating those waters. So you have the end goal of, yeah, I want to be super fricking strong or I want to be really, really, really good at jujitsu. be super freaking strong or i want to be really really really good at jujitsu but how can i get here while minimizing damage to myself or really not barely getting hurt i mean a great example of this comes look at michael hearn yeah sorry but like you always mention how he like likes to or he he doesn't mind lowering the weight to something really really light and he's 50 years old right now most people that were you know doing this back when he was doing it don't look the same way he does. And they're not as healthy as he is.

It's because he was looking at the long run. A lot of self-control. And I think that we look at self-control and we look at discipline and we think about all the stuff that people do. But it's all the shit that they don't do that's super adm admirable too. Michael Hearn is an absolute animal in the gym. I mean, he is a wrecking machine, right? But he doesn't train recklessly and he trains very smooth all the time. It was crazy and kind of frustrating is the fact that he's able to move such big weights all the time with flawless form and technique. And you just, it's just hard time with flawless uh form and technique and you just it's just hard to make sense of and then sometimes you just have to take a step back and just say

look you know i don't i don't know all the reasons why sometimes people are just stronger than other people like that's just it's just the way it is kaylor wallman can rip up 900 pounds he works really hard he works really hard but does he have a certain talent towards that? Of course he does. I mean, it's a combination of things. We can all kind of make sense of it. But like what's reasonable for you to do? You know, you're in great shape.

But for you to sit here and be 4% body fat, it's like how long would be 4% body fat for like a couple days? Yeah. Maybe. Less than a week. Yeah. Okay. Maybe you're 4% body fat for a week. You do a bodybuilding show. Take a couple days yeah maybe less than a week yeah okay man maybe you're four percent body fat for a week you do a bodybuilding show take a couple pictures i'm four percent body fat

right and and you get out of it because it's not reasonable and if i said hey man like i want you to be four percent body fat for like a year you would be like that's not no like that doesn't fit doesn't fit with like what i'm doing like if you you were 21, maybe you'd be like, yeah, fuck it. I'll try it. Yeah, like let's see what I can do. But it doesn't fit. It doesn't vibe with like what you're doing right now. So it doesn't make any sense.

And that's what people need to try to determine is what's reasonable for them. And if you're trying to acquire like that next level, a lot of times the things that you're going to do are not reasonable. They're going to be a little wacky. They're going to maybe it, maybe it's still kind of safe to you because maybe you're kind of, you're conditioned to it. But like the stuff I was doing, you know, handling, you know, 900 pounds in a bench press and handling 1100 pounds of the squat, there's nothing, there's just, there's just

nothing safe about it. It's almost like, uh, I'm going to crash my my car but it's totally fine because i have airbags you know it's like almost it's almost that bad it's not that bad but it's almost that bad yeah yeah but you mentioned something also um you look at a lot of you look at a lot of athletes right and there there are some like even top wrestlers that are in their 30s. There's this guy. Shoot, I wish I knew his name. A lot of wrestlers don't know who I'm talking about. He's just like, you know, 5'7", black guy. He's an Olympian wrestler.

He's really freaking good. He's done some amazing stuff. I don't remember his name. But you can also look at a lot of like really young wrestlers that have a crazy amount of injuries that haven't done half or even anything close to what he's done right but i feel like you're saying that individuals need to do sometimes you got to do unreasonable things i really do think that to get at that level or to get to that place like hodger gracie um you can you can do unreasonable things to an extent like you can you can you can ride that line you can still be prepared for it you can be prepared for it and

you can know when maybe it might be the best time to back off a little bit i know something sometimes things are inevitable sometimes injuries happen and maybe there was no way you could have avoided it you know what i mean but like you look at a lot of these like Hodger or whatever, right? I feel like there were so many situations where maybe he could have gotten hurt or something could have happened. But maybe he just trained really smart. And even the way he puts things forward and the way he rolls, the way he talks about his training, it seems like it was very well structured. It seems like he's just a guy that didn't always go all in, you know? So I wonder about that because a lot of times when you hear about like champions, right?

You always hear about this all in mentality. Like you do, you need to be committed. You need to be all in. But to what extent do you need to be all in? Sometimes it's seen as like, it's seen as great or whatever when someone's injured and they're still going at it, right? They're still training hard. But when I had my meniscus torn, I'm not saying that this is anything crazy, but I came in the next day and I started training, but I wasn't doing anything with my legs. Just that mindset.

Exactly. I just came in and trained some of my upper body, but I knew, okay, this thing needs to heal. So I need to be within the parameters here and not do anything to re-injure it so it's just tough i feel like we just need to find that find that line if you really want to be great at a sport and i guess this is coming from a guy who hasn't necessarily done anything super great i'm not saying i'm a champion or something but i think that it can be done safely. Hopefully nothing happens. But if you just ride that line, if you know when to back off and you actually just back off a little bit.

Think about your athletic longevity. You may want to get to this goal, but I don't know, man. Things might get a little bit iffy here and there, but they shouldn't. Like if you feel like you're really rolling the dice on like a bench press and you're just totally unsure of it and even your training partner's like, hey, like, I don't know, man.

Like it doesn't seem like a good idea. And you just happen to go for it. There's a 50-50 shot of like something happening you know you think about like the rock or stone cold steve austin or some of these people right there's been a bunch of people that have been in and out of pro wrestling you know quicker than you can blink your eye because they got hit with a chair like the wrong way or something had happened on a certain type of move and something slipped or something happened. It even happened to Stone Cold where he broke his neck wrestling Owen Hart. And it's like there's these things that can happen,

but usually if you're good and you can execute at a really high level, then you're usually fine. Like Barry Sanders comes to mind. He was so good and so shifty and so he one game because he had an injured rib or something. He was an NFL running back for 10 years. And he's one of the all-time greats. And so if you're prepped enough, you should be able to do stuff that other people think is unreasonable, that other people think is crazy, but you can still do it and you can do it kind of safely like another example would be

like if we were to try to like get into a really powerful car and and and do some like car racing like we don't know what do we know about racing cars i don't know anything about it yeah and how dangerous is that going to be for me it's gonna be really it's gonna be really dangerous for both of us like we don't know anything about it but somebody else could get in that car that has experience and they can quote unquote safely probably go 150, 200 miles an hour. Exactly. Like you exactly preparedness, you know, a lot, a lot of these pro athletes, they've been doing it for so long. I've been working so hard that things that seem risky to us are just another day for them. Just like when you like watching watching adcc there are a lot of like individuals that they're put into a heel hook or they're put into these these uh these submissions but they

escape smoothly you know but because they they've drilled that like it looks dangerous to someone who doesn't know how to escape it but to somebody who does boom they get out you're like how the fuck did you do that right but then there are other times when they're in it and they just let the knee go. You mentioned you mentioned Kobe Bryant and Kobe did have the Achilles tear. And that was that was pretty much the beginning of the end. He did come back from it and he, you know, he did the best he could. But he'll even admit and he's even said in interviews, he asked himself, like, can I even come back from this? And it wasn't so much of like, do I have what's needed to do it?

It was more like, is this worth it? Like what? I already won a bunch of times. And I tore my Achilles. It takes a year to come back from an Achilles tendon tear. It doesn't matter how resilient you are or how much of a badass you are. That's like minimum requirement is 12 months, if not longer. So he, he did rehab. He tried to get, um, you know, shots for it. And, uh, what are those stem cells? He tried to do all kinds of stuff and nothing,

nothing really produced any real results for it. He did end up getting back on the court. But the simple fact that he had to ask himself if it was worth it tells you that Kobe Bryant was in a spot that he's never been in before in his life because he'd never probably asked himself that question before. Yeah, he even questioned the contract that they wanted to give him. So when he came back, it was like for two years, but it was going to tie up all of their free agent money. He was just like, why are you going to give me like, okay, fine. Like I'll take it, but like, Ooh, I don't know.

Am I worth this right now with what just happened? That's exactly what his mind, like what he kind of said. And it was just like, wow, like Kobe, like, like you. Okay. Yeah. And is it worth it to like run in like an absolute maniac for every rebound all the time like probably not because you're probably going to jump and land on somebody else's foot because if you're just if you're just recklessly like go going all in like a nutcase shit's gonna happen i mean you're not gonna last very long yeah and just dive for every ball and be a fucking freak, right?

Unless that... Go ahead. No, I was going to say, unless that is your only thing... If that's the only thing that you can rely on, then you'll be the sixth player on a really good team and you'll contribute and you'll do really well and you'll probably make some money. You'll be in the league for like six years if you're lucky. Or you'll be Michael the Animal animal smith on the sacramento

kings that guy was terrible but man he would get every rebound which player in the nba does everybody tout like has amazing longevity and they're just they don't know how they're doing it who is it well i will say tim duncan did it okay yeah tim duncan did it and he was a multiple time champion he's one of the greatest players of all time. But who in the NBA has had just crazy longevity? He's pretty old. I'm not going to give you any more clues. This should come to mind. Y'all got to know this.

Like currently playing? Yes. Well, LeBron's been in forever. LeBron. I think he's been to the NBA championships other than this last year. And Kobe played for a long-ass time, too. And Kobe played for a long-ass time, too. But LeBron, everyone's eyes like,

this guy never gets injured. He's like 33 or 34 right now. 34, yeah. 34. The same age. He's been to the championships for the last, I think a little,

10 or 11 years, which has been done by no player ever. Even though he hasn't won every single one, he's been to, like been in the playoffs or been to the championships. He's a mutant, yeah. Which also means that his season was also,

his season didn't end. His season was longer than everybody else's for more than a decade. And he's had no injuries. Yeah. So even though he, he could potentially be younger than certain players, he's played longer. Cause he,

he was a lot, I think his class was the last one that could come straight out of high school. So him and Kobe came straight out of high school. And he's a starter and he plays pretty much all of every single game, every single season. That guy takes care of himself. You even notice how he plays on the court.

He's not sprinting for everything. He plays super smart, right? That's that thing. Tim Duncan is also a really great example. Tim Duncan and David Robinson, you know know they both played on the spurs and they were both just like really responsible like they were just responsive like they were they were like the definition of professional yeah they did their sport and then they took care of themselves as much as possible off the court um with uh you know strength coaches that we've had on this podcast

that that deal with high level athletes still talk about like yeah right when the game's over they go and lift and i'm like what i can't imagine that but there's a reason for it is because it makes them feel better and they know that like man i better like if i if i go and get on like a bus right now or get in a plane like i I'm going to be stiff the whole week. I need to like figure out a way to like get all this shit moving again. So they're not going in and doing 500-pound squats. They're going in and moving around. And if they are doing like a squat, it's probably like kettlebell front squats or something.

They're just trying to move around a bunch to get everything feeling good again. But there are ways of hitting that high-level performance, but you have to do so in a way where you are gradually stacking things up. If you just out of nowhere start to stack things up, the amount of shit that you have to do in a day to be great or you're trying to go all in on something out of nowhere, you're probably going to burn out. You out of nowhere you're probably gonna burn out you're probably gonna you're probably gonna be jacked up i mean but you have people you know i

always like to point to like the rock you know how many times the rock had his head smashed with a chair in his life probably probably at least a hundred times he probably got hit with a chair pull up a shot of the rocket and hit with a chair and let's see how he does it got it because he does it differently than everybody else got hit with the chair and it just i just wanted to put it in perspective uh tim duncan played in the nba so long that you can play him on sega genesis all the way up to ps4 oh my god so yeah i forgot this too so the san antonio spurs had revolutionary, they were the first team to track everything that a player did.

First team in any sport. And I don't know if it was like their strength coach or who did it, but they tracked individual players, how many times they jump, how many times they had the ball, how many times they pass it, how many times they are in the low post. they tried to really pay attention to everything they did how many steps did they take how often did they sprint they watched everything and so with tim duncan later in their career like you're sitting like why it's like because we have this game in the bag because this team sucks we're saving your ass for the playoffs and tim duncan

would still play and he'd still be active he'd get in there and they had the players to do this. Most teams can't afford to do that. Yeah. You know, he'd throw the ball around. He'd get a couple of rebounds, block a couple of shots. Boom. He'd be back on the bench and him and David Robinson, when he was there, they would kind of cycle through even early in Tim Duncan's career.

He had somebody else to kind of like lean on, but that team was so smart. They were like, we only need you when it counts. We don't need you all the time we don't need to compromise your strength and compromise your knees and compromise everything uh later down the road so that team was thinking the way you're thinking they're thinking of like hey let's think about like more over here and they do it in track and field they do it a lot of stuff there's these like in swimming they have these preliminary rounds you know where they do it a lot of stuff there's these like in swimming they have these preliminary rounds you know where they do they'll do a swim and it's like you just need a qualifying time yeah you know just

just do halfway decent in this tournament and you qualify for this other tournament like they do that in a lot of sports and it's like i don't need to go 800 over here i just need to go about 90 that would be good that'll get me here and then when it's time to go a hundred, I'm going to go a hundred, but I'm only going to do it at that one thing, the way like you see Usain Bolt and so many other people do it over the years. Yeah. It's like powerlifting. Exactly. You have like, you have qualifying meets to get to that meet you're trying to do. So how about instead of going for your PRs in this qualifying meet that you know is not the big thing, get, get above your qualifying total total make sure you have that so you can keep training hard up to that meat and then boom kill your meat this is another thing but a lot of people when it comes to that meat they're like i want to fucking get prs in

this meat i'm gonna peak hard for this meat and it kind of wastes time it's uh kind of the equivalent of there's been articles written and it'll say like lift like a russian and if you lift like a russian and compete like a russian what they are referring to is if you go back and you watch some of your competitions where you competed in powerlifting, it's like you hit the lifts and they're, most of them are, they appear, at least on video, they appear like they're pretty easy. Yeah. And it's like you did them and what was the cost? What was the price that you paid to do them? That didn't, didn't cost you much. Like, yeah, maybe you didn't feel amazing the next day. Maybe you're like, oh man,

like I kind of feel that that's sitting in my body. Uh, but she didn't get hurt and you could have lived, you know, how great is that of a feeling to walk away from something being like, I still feel really good. I did the best I could. I may have been able to lift a little bit more weight. But the flip side of that is walking away going, man, I shouldn't have tried that. Why did I try that, man? I knew I wasn't. And then you're bummed and you're hurt and you're out of the gym.

It causes just a huge cascade of problems for you. Yeah, it's always good to leave some there. I think The Rock got rid of every single piece of footage of him getting hit with a chair. Really? Because I cannot find one. The internet's so weird. Like the picture that I was trying to find with Andrew of that guy and his knee meow. Two days ago, you could Google search it and it was easy to find.

Today, you look everywhere on the Internet. You can't find it other than like on Reddit and a post that I have on Facebook. Even Flo Grappling took it off. So I'm like, is there something? It's so weird. I'm having a really. Yeah, I can only find stuff of him hitting. There's tons of him hitting Ken Shamrock.

And then, of course, him and Mankind in the I Quit match. But him getting hit with chairs is gone. I can't find it. I mean I'm sure it's in one of these videos but like. Yeah The Rock has the famous I Quit match against Mankind where he hit him like 17 times with a chair. Yeah. Yo. It's called the match where The Rock almost killed Mankind. Did you guys

ever hear about the Fast and Furious contracts? Not like the Did you guys ever hear about the Fast and Furious contracts? Not really. The controversy between The Rock and Vin Diesel. Vin Diesel. If I hit you, right, then I have to get my hit in too. Or they had weird equations like, if you throw me through this glass, then I have to do this too. It was always like a...

You're not getting kills on me. uh you're not gonna make me look which is so i think it's so silly because like dude uh vin diesel owns the entire uh series hey yo but it's the rock like i know but i'm just saying like yes i mean is that even true i mean it's crazy like that that does sound it just sounds so ridiculous but apparently like it i want i'm gonna fact check i don't want anybody thinking this is fact. No, just say it's real. But I want to say it's real without, like, I just, yeah. But it's very interesting if it is real.

It's like, wow, you know? You tell everyone you're natty. Andrew! It's true, right? Andrew, it is true. Okay, so we're doing it. We're shooting a documentary. That's going to be real fun.

I can't wait. I actually can't wait for that video. Yeah, that's going to be dope, dude. I asked Chris Griffin, I was like, we got to shoot this video. Do like a mini doc. And Griffin goes, do we go all the way back to his childhood? I was like, yeah, maybe. Oh my God.

Are we going to have to go to Nigeria and film stuff with relatives? I think so. We could find my daddy somewhere down there. I'm already loving the interview with Smokey. Oh, yeah. Where he's talking about his family, and he's saying that everybody's jacked, and then you show a picture of some real homely family that just has no muscle on them at all.

I'm trying to find a chair shot, and I can't find one. See? He took them all down. You ain't going to gonna find duane getting hit by a chair yeah anyway my whole point was now that you can't find it the rock used to put his hand up when he got hit with a chair like this like no he'd put his he'd put his hand in front he would sneak it in there last second and kind of just be like here um other guys would just get hit with the chair the chair doesn't like the chair doesn't hurt that bad but it can like it could it could definitely jack you up bad i mean it could it could rock you but he would always uh throw in like a little block and a lot of the other wrestlers like oh it's you know that's kind of a cheap way out of

it like what are you doing you know but it's just he's thinking about tomorrow he's thinking about his acting career he's thinking about his grill he's got to keep he's got to keep that uh money maker going you know he's got to keep that face looking pretty right yeah there's technique to everything yeah if you don't get it in you're just gonna get hurt that's true yeah uh real quick uh martin's asking mark if you've trained the same exercise every day and what happened if you did same exercise every day oh my god uh no did? Same exercise every day? Yeah. Oh, my God. No, I've never tried that before.

So I don't know what would happen. I'm not sure what would happen to me. Sometimes some people can get like what is called like an overuse injury, which has also been referred to as an underuse injury because it means that you're overusing something and you're gaining strength there, but you're overusing something and you're gaining strength there, but you're underusing something else. And so a lot of times you end up with like imbalances. So I can't, I wouldn't be able to understand great reasons to do the same exercises all the time.

Cause I also just kind of think that that would be boring. There are great movements. There's bench squat deadlift. You could technically do them every day if you wanted to. But I don't see the benefit. I personally would rather mix it up and do some different stuff most of the time. I was thinking maybe something like Corey G doing lunges every day. Maybe something like that. Yeah, you can adopt some principles to where you do something every day for a while. Just like I walk every day. I do a 10-minute walk.

I do several of them every day. It's kind of nice to get into like a rhythm and maybe you aren't proficient at squatting so maybe you squat every day for like two months until you get a better feel for it you know something like that that's what i was thinking that he may be referring to because yeah you know like a lot of people like to do squat every day but even when people do the squat every day it's not like low bar back squat every day like you could squat one day you could front squat another day you could do some goblet squats you can do some body weight squats the next day for a lot of reps it doesn't need to be a squat the barbell every single day it could be a variation of the squat and how many of those are a one rep max right oh no hell no like i think mike rashid did a squat every day thing um for a long time

like he had videos where he was like 100 hundred days in, et cetera, but he wasn't doing a heavy squats every day, you know? So even with that, there has to be some type of, has to undulate. There has to be days where you're going more intense and less. I know that some of the, back to the Russians, they used a lot of just kind of like this 30% rule. So if they were going to do something with high frequency, they would take about 30% off. So they might use 80% one day and then down to 50% the next day, down to like 20% on day three, which is like, why would you lift 20%? Well, you'd lift 20% of your max for practice, right? It's just the movement.

I'm just going to go in there and I'm going to do the movement. And a lot of that was more for Olympic lifting. So I don't know how great it transfers over to powerlifting, but I also would think that it would work great because people, people don't think about powerlifting as something they need to practice. And, uh, that's powerlifting should be viewed as something you need to practice. People do need a lot of practice with the exercises, but I personally like to switch stuff up more often i think that you could get you know a lot out of you know doing leg presses and leg extensions and lunges and things like that yeah what did you guys train this morning because i i wasn't able to get in so yeah you know i turned around and

literally there was nobody left i didn't know what happened i was like because it was kind of loud we had the music going and i was like i was like i was kind of like shaking it off you know i was like man it's like this is hard and i was like kind of wiping my brow because this freaking sweat was getting in my eyes a lot and i turn around and i'm like i'm like jessica's gone i turn the other way and i'm like where did josh go i'm like i think wayne was here and i'm like where's sean and so i peek outside and there's like a pile of puke there and i was like okay that's where sean was yeah and uh yeah everybody just fucking took off it got to be really difficult we um to to explain what we're training i don't even know how to say it but we're just training

everything i guess um you know talk about some over training this is this is definitely like over the top i don't feel over trained though but it's it's just we're working a lot of muscles each and every day. And I'm kind of like, should I do more upper body or should I do more lower body? I'm like, what was yesterday? I'm like, yesterday was like everything. And I'm like, what was the day before? I was like, that was everything too. And so I'm trying to, I'm trying to learn it and, uh, trying to incorporate a lot of the stuff from, uh, Brian Allsrew. He. He gave me some programming and then to try to take that program and actually come in here and try to

apply it in super training with the setup that we have and then with the people that I train with becomes very difficult. I don't want anybody to get hurt. I want everybody to be safe and sometimes the tendency might be because we're in these like circuits, people might be like,

ah, F it. I'm just going to do whatever is you know, whatever's on the bar. And it's like, that's not smart. We need to reduce the weight. And like, you know, we were doing overhead presses in between some sled drags today. And it's like, that's not normal. You know, you're not, you know, you're going into an exercise, you can't breathe and you really need to be able to breathe to do overhead presses properly. So that means you're able to breathe to do overhead presses properly. So that means you're going to have to reduce the weight drastically. And then because it was taking a pretty long duration for people to get finished with the sled work, you know, I did like curls and I did lateral raises and some and some just like body weight squats and stuff like that in between, too. So it was it was an ass kicker.

But we started out today's workout, to make things even worse, we started out today's workout with some squats supersetted with bench press. And for anybody that's never tried that before, you've got to try it. It actually feels really good. It's like there's something fun and something challenging about it. You don't really get like, uh, I mean,

I guess if you want to do sets of 20, you could be super like winded. Um, but I actually think it's a great way to reduce a training time of both exercises. Cause they usually both kind of take a long time. So I was going back and forth, super setting,

uh, some squats and benching. And it actually felt great. How much time in between, uh, sets? I would say because we were changing out weights and some things like that,

it was probably maybe about 60 to 90 seconds. But we would try to go right from the squat right to the bench, and then we would rest after that. But it didn't feel... On the first set, I did a bunch of reverse grip bench first, and I switched over to some regular. On the first set, it kind of took me by surprise i was like oh shit i'm gonna have to like

you know you just kind of give yourself a message like dude you better toughen the hell up on this next one so i was able to get a couple more reps uh on the next one but my my overall strength feels really good my benching strength is just off. Sometimes if I'm not on point and I'm not really hitting my central nervous system all that much, the left side of my body, I don't know if it's like a nerve thing or whatever, but when I go to bench press, it's like, nope. I'll go to bench and it could be like 225 or 315 and the right arm's like yeah dude we're doing good and the left arm's like nope this is where we're this is where we're

stopping and so the right arm's like pow and the left arm's just kind of hanging out back here and i'm always stay down here yeah i'm like oh man i hate when it happens but i feel good otherwise that's a great idea that works really well i mean, how many, let me ask you this, how many reps, if you can think back to it after every single set, how many reps more could you have done with both of those movements? Oh yeah. Yeah. I could definitely, can definitely afford to throw in some more reps. Yeah. Yeah. Like, like the last set, I did a set of 15, you know, and I, I was doing sets of six the entire time. See, like exactly. So that, that's something big to think about when like people want to do this. yeah it's challenging it's good but you're not going with the weights you're going on the super set it's not like you only have one one rep left

that you could do on each set right see so you you i think i think that people's perception of me is i think they probably think that i'm a maniac they probably think I go crazy on everything. And I, and I really don't, I I'm actually like, I go into stuff pretty like timidly. Like, cause I, because I know that when I'm trying something, it's usually for a while. I'm like, I'm going to do this this way. And I'm going to try this this way. Um, even all the way down to like taking something like MCT oil. Like first time I took it, I i was like this is like just oil just straight up oil in my coffee i've never had that before i don't think i've ever eaten fat by itself ever before in my life so i'm like and i put in like two drops you know i'm i'm like

i'm not super cautious with everything that i do um but i I do try, I do try to like be reasonable. I try to like pay attention, like what I'm doing, you know? Oh man. Now that, that's either that, that, that about your workout, man, that's good to know. Cause I feel like if someone is listening in, they're like, wow. Okay. So let me take 90% of my bench, 90% of my squat and do those back and forth. I personally don't really enjoy like you know grabbing weight and going crazy um i don't i i that's not my style i don't really like that i don't mind having a progression and a warm-up and then going being like okay here we go you know uh you and i go back and forth on something and like i don't know we do a couple sets like all right let's see how

many reps we can do like that's fun you know i don do a couple sets and like, all right, let's see how many reps we can do. Like, that's fun. You know, I don't mind doing that. But like just to kind of like, I don't know, I sometimes see people just really trying to grab something that's too heavy for them. And then they're just trying to grit their teeth and they think gritting their teeth is going to help them lift more weight or something or screaming or whatever. And, you know, I can get that way on occasion, especially for like a one rep max. I can get like fired up and excited for it. But for the most part, I like to just go in there and train. And I really love what I'm doing now, which is just nonstop movement. Just always doing something.

I'm always either lifting or spotting or coaching. I just try to keep going. Full body every day. Yeah, probably keeps the workouts a little shorter too, right? It does. Yeah. Yeah. Today, today was a really good one. Like I said, everybody else died and Josh Kim was like, he's like, you look like you can still keep going. I was like, I feel like I just got started, man. Yeah. You were telling us that the other day when, yeah, when I was on that workout with you guys and you were just like, Hmm, this reminds me of the wrestling day.

All perky and we're all just like, fuck. That's when you hit them with the two more sets and we're halfway there. Yeah. Two more sets and the workout's going to start. You know what's so funny? You remember? Yeah. You remember when we were doing, I think, the sled pushes?

Oh, yeah. Super set of that with the erg thing. Oh, yeah. And then what else did we add with it? Or is it just those two? I think we had, man, that one day. What did we do? Was what else did we add with it or is it just those two i think we had uh man that one day what did we do was it uh did we do the we did like an arm gauntlet and then we went on to oh yeah did we do the yoke carry no we didn't do the yoke carry on that day that was the

day with those uh yeah the cook schweitzer yeah yeah so we did the uh ski erg and were we doing the wheelbarrow no no we were doing the sled push. Oh, the tank. The tank. The tank. That's all we were doing. That's all we were doing. But we went back and forth. So the funny thing, man, is that when we were- That got to be tough.

It did. But I remember what you said. You're like, okay, we're just going to do a few sets of this, right? And Jess was like, oh, okay, maybe we're going to do three sets each. That's what Jess said. She's like, oh, yeah, three sets each. We ended up doing 10 back and forth. It was bad. And it's funny because you're like oh we're

just gonna do a few and it was fucking back and forth 10 times yeah that got that one that one shocked me on how hard it got to be and i kept kind of looking at sema and i was like oh like he's starting to get a little tired too i'm like this is really. This is like a lot of fun. And Josh Kim is always dying when it comes to like that kind of stuff. That was so fun, but so just like, God, that shit. That was good, man. I like that stuff. Strength is never a weakness. Weakness is never a strength.

Catch you guys later.