Mark Bell's Power Project - EP. 265 - Alpha M Aaron Marino

Episode Date: October 10, 2019

Aaron Marino is a successful entrepreneur, vlogger, and creator of AlphaM.com, a personal image consulting firm. Aaron works with guys across the world to help them become healthier, happier, and more confident through realizing their full potential. Aaron creates and publishes much of his content on his constantly growing YouTube channel, https://www.youtube.com/user/AlphaMconsulting Subscribe to the Podcast on all platforms: ➢https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast ➢SHOP NOW: https://markbellslingshot.com/ Enter Discount code, "POWERPROJECT" at checkout and receive 15% off all Sling Shots FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell ➢ Snapchat: marksmellybell Follow The Power Project Podcast ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/MarkBellsPowerProject Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/  Podcast Produced by Andrew Zaragoza ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz

All right, Nseema, I know you do a lot of fasting, but sometimes we get to these trade shows and sometimes we're like, I don't know, we're trying to like fast and we're like, oh, we'll probably, you know, eat it like two or three. We'll get out for a break. We don't get a break. We're still going, going, going. What's something that gets you through? The last time we went to one of these shows, man, that was the first time that I was able to enjoy the taste of one of the Quest Hero Bars in my mouth. And oh my mouth. And oh my goodness.

People don't know about the Hero Bar, I feel like. They don't. It's a sleeper. No. The silent hero. The Hero Bar is literally the best freaking bar that I've ever had in my life from any of these companies. It's so damn good. It's so chewy and gooey and just...

You need to be by yourself oh god i think i do andrew what do you got over there i'm really excited but uh yeah we've been to various expos i've followed mark around with the camera for like 48 hours straight and the only thing i had to survive on was quest bars and it's it just it just works. It fills you up. It doesn't make you feel like shit, but you do feel great. So head over to questnutrition.com, enter promo code MarksQuest at checkout for 20% off all of these bars and everything they have at questnutrition.com. You know, the gym over here has been pretty hot, you know, but I'm not wearing like a whole lot of clothes and sometimes I'm able to take my shirt off right but with what you're doing with jujitsu you're all bundled up yeah right you're like you're in

a gi and stuff right i mean you must sweat out a lot yeah jujitsu on its own is a it's a very very sweaty martial art right you're wearing the gi it's it's a heavy heavy thing so afterwards you're typically drenched and the gi's drenched but then then on a hot day, you're sweating even more, you're losing even more water, electrolytes, et cetera. It just gets bad, really bad. And we've been learning a lot in this podcast about the importance and from guys like Stan Efferding, the importance of sodium. We know we need a lot of sodium. Are you taking in a lot of sodium and you're finding ways to take in a lot of potassium? I think you're a fan of coconut water and stuff like that too, right? Yeah, a lot of coconut water. I salt the hell out of a lot of my foods. I take some electrolyte supplements, but I add a lot of that because if I don't, I'm

just cramp up really, really bad. I'm just going to feel horrible when performing. Well, Perfect Keto has a great way of doing it too, where you don't have to necessarily buy coconut water that might cost eight bucks or 10 bucks a pop. You can actually just supplement it with some capsules, and they have calcium, magnesium, potassium, and sodium all in one capsule, which I think is a brilliant idea. So maybe after your jiu-jitsu practice or on your way from lifting to jiu-jitsu,

maybe pop three or four of these capsules on your way to jiu-jitsu practice and maybe get a little extra, you know, feel a little extra hydrated for those workouts. Yeah, that seems like a great idea. Hydration is a huge thing. I highly recommend that you guys check out these Perfect Keto electrolytes. Andrew, how can people find out more information about this? All right. Everyone can stay hydrated and in ketosis by going to perfectketo.com slash powerproject. Use code powerproject and get 15% off all Perfect Keto products. One thing I forgot to add is that when you're on a ketogenic diet, when you're on a low-carbohydrate diet, that is very hard to stay hydrated.

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about you? For bodybuilding? Yeah. I ate chicken, fish, and a lot of steak there's actually a lot more red meat uh in the diet than than i expected which was which was great the advantage of the piedmontese as you know is just the fat calories are so much lower oh yeah but when i was looking at some of the uh some of the meat that i got from them i was like man i'm like this thing is so red there was no fat marbling in it at all so i was like this is going to be like chewing on a sneaker. And I thought I was going to end up like chewing on this thing for the next three hours, but I was totally wrong. It came out very tender and still was extremely flavorful. So I don't know how they're doing it, but they have these super jacked cows.

Yeah. Have you seen the cows? Nigerian cows, right? I think so. Yeah. I think they're from Nebraska. Nebraska's out. Yeah.

They're from Nebraska. But yeah, no, those pictures of those cows, they look, they look really muscular. I wonder, do they, do they lift? Yeah, but they're not on juice. So what's your favorite? They're natural cows. So you said your favorite cut is ribeye. For me, I really like filet a lot.

Part of the reason why I like the filet is because you never have to like cut anything away from it. Sometimes with the ribeye, sometimes there's some stuff that's just not, you know, not as edible, but I love a filet also like flank steak. Obviously I love ground beef. Their ground beef, I think is superior to any ground beef out there because a lot of the really lean ground beef just gets to be kind of dry. It's almost like eating, I don't know if you've ever had a turkey, like 99% turkey. I know what you're talking about. That's a rough, I don't know if you've ever had turkey, like 99% turkey.

I know what you're talking about. That's a rough go of it. But you can take some of the Piedmontese beef and make your favorite monster mash with it, like our boy Stan the Rhino Efforting does. Mix in some rice with the ground beef, throw in some bone broth, and you're going to have an awesome meal. But my favorite thing that they have on the website is the tomahawk because you got that meat handle. Yeah.

And it just makes you feel like a caveman or a barbarian or something. And you just you can grab it and just, you know, gnaw right through it. Andrew, what's your favorite cut of meat over there? It's definitely a ribeye. And where can people find out more about certified Piedmontese? Cool. Our friends at Piedmontese are hooking you guys up with a crazy deal on all their cuts. You can actually head over to Piedmontese. Cool. Our friends at Pete Montese are hooking you guys up with the crazy deal on all their cuts.

You can actually head over to Pete Montese.com. That's P I E D M O N T E S E.com. Enter promo code power project. That's all one word for 25% off your order, along with free two day shipping on all orders of $99 and more. Also don't forget they have grass fedfed and grass-finished beef as well check that out nature's laxative so mark was explaining it to me as you said is because it just like pulls water into your stool or is that something in your uh colon i think oh well

that makes a lot of sense because when i have coffee it's an explosion yeah you know but i honestly feel like this what i what just happened to me was hardcore placebo because straight up like i like i just mentioned i don't know if we're live or not yeah well live-ish live-ish okay during our last podcast for the last 40 minutes i had to like my my stuff was just like here just like chilling and i was just like yeah and i was like gosh well it's not perfectly ready but i gotta get it out nails into the podcast table yeah i was legit like i was like going like, well, it's not perfectly ready, but I got to get it out. He was digging his nails into the podcast table. Yeah, I was legit like, I was like going like this, just kind of gripping the table a little bit. But then once we finish, I go have a cup of coffee.

30 seconds later, I'm on the toilet. It's coming out. So it didn't reach my colon in that amount of time. Yeah, it's like the smell too. The smell. The triggers. Yeah, it just triggers everything to start moving. Poop juice.

Yeah. This is a good way to start this episode because i'm pretty sure like when you look at uh aaron marino he's like one of those guys you're like he's probably never had a situation where like he had a like a crazy poop story or something just because he's like he's like always ahead of the game like that's what it seems like yeah like uh like christian guzman exactly you wouldn't expect him to have a catastrophic poop story but maybe he does that's because these seems like. Yeah, like Christian Guzman. Exactly. You wouldn't expect him to have a catastrophic poop story, but maybe he does. Because these are clean-looking men, you know?

These are good-looking people. They shouldn't have these butthole problems. Are you saying that only, like, bad-looking people have butthole problems? No, it just makes more sense when it's like, it's like the fat guy always gets blamed for the farting. It's like, who farted? It's like, the fat guy's like, yep. Iing yeah it's like who farted it's like the fat guy's like yep i mean i can't remember the uh there's a there's a big guy he's a he's a comedian he said that uh as they're getting their their uh car valet uh his wife just ripped

one and he's like really and of course as the guy comes to get the keys and he's like it wasn't it wasn't me he's like yeah all right dude and he's like i look like i'm made out of farts so yeah anyways dude no my girls had some of the worst farts that i've ever experienced it's like she doesn't listen to this podcast so much he's like man there's been some times where i'm just like whoa was that you or was that me? That's terrible. Well, it's amazing how loud Quinn can like. I'm like, I could not be more proud of her. And even when she was like a lot younger, even if she was like five or six, I'd be like, there is no way. There's no way that noise came out of that little body.

It's impossible. Yeah. Yeah. Jasmine will rip something brutal. I'm just like, what was that? Yeah. I did not get launched up into the air. I just noticed that you two didn't say anything about your ladies.

I guess you're just being smart. Oh, well, they, yeah, she, my wife poops, you know? Yeah. She poops, but I mean, you guys aren't going to believe me. She thinks that if she farts in front of me or around me. That you're out. That I'm going to leave. Why do they think that?

That's great. So. She just has cramping going on in her stomach all the time. She probably has to let go. Before we lived together, like, you know, I was still living. Well, I moved back in with my parents She would just go home And home would be like 35 minute drive

I'm not going to do it here Just ride the whole time Okay cool now we got Aaron Hey there he is There we go Oh my god And Seema you lied to me You told me this guy was better looking than me.

Well, yeah, he kind of is. Yeah, he is. Substantially so, and he has more hair. Yeah. And it's, oh, we can't hear him. Not yet. Not yet, not yet. We'll get him. We'll get him.

I need to learn sign language. Oh, no. No. Not yet. I like the brick background, though. That looks good. Is that real brick? That's what we need to get to.

What do we need to do? We got to hit a button, Andrew? Well, we just... There it is. Hey! What's happening, gentlemen? What's up? Hey, is that a real brick background or is that just a backdrop?

It is indeed. It's a real brick wall. is that just a backdrop? It is indeed. It's a real brick wall. Oh, there we go. There we go. Not everything on the internet is fake, right? Exactly. Super fired up and excited to have you on the show. My host here.

Is there a delay or is this okay? I think you sound great. Okay, cool. Sound extremely handsome this morning. I feel handsome guys. I'll tell you what, I'm so nervous to come on this podcast because I was watching some of the

episodes. I'm like, I eat carbohydrates. They're going to kill me. Wait, what? And that's the end of the show. Damn. Cool. Eat carbs. That is's a shock what's going on here didn't we vet this guy uh well that was andrew's job so i don't know about that but yeah no i'm a big fan so it doesn't matter

oh okay whatever he wants you just lie to us yeah absolutely fair enough man, how did all this get started? Because he got, you know, 5.4 million subscribers on YouTube. And like, what do you think, you know, what do you think was the thing that that led to that success that led to that many people, you know, wanting to find out this information was just a huge void in society for this information? huge void in society for this information? Yeah, I have no idea. That's a great question. But, you know, I think when I when I started, it was I was early, right? That was one of the lucky things for me is that I was super early. I started posting content on YouTube back in 2008. So YouTube was fairly new. And at the time, there was nobody talking about like men's style, grooming, manscaping, and things of that nature. There wasn't even fitness content for the most part back then. And so I just, I started posting videos and I had no idea what to expect. I had no, like back then you couldn't make any money doing it. It was just, you know, people with a big mouth and a video camera that would just put up content and hey and, Hey, who knows? Right. And so that's kind of what happened. And, um, I posted my first video. It was, um, I had a fitness center that failed and, um, and we were, it was a horrible, destructive bankruptcy sort of situation that happened, um, back in 2006.

happened back in 2006. And, and at that point I was, I was bankrupt, I was broke and I didn't know what to do. And so the, the, the interesting thing and sort of, you know, what happened was while I had this fitness center, I had this, this, this client of mine named Steve, who was getting ready for a date one night. And he's like, Hey, you know, I don't know what to wear, you know, what should I do? And I said, you you know what why don't i come over to your place and we'll see what you have and see what you need if you need something we'll go shopping and by the way you know we got to get your nose hair handled because they are crazy and so i didn't realize what i was doing no he was totally like putty in my uh my little hands and so we ended up doing that. And the date was successful. And it was a lot of fun. And he went to work. He was a meteorologist at the Weather Channel. And the

next week, his coworker, a woman, called me and said, hey, I saw what you did with Steve. Could you do that with my husband? And so I'm like, maybe there's a business in this. And so this was back when Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, that TV show was just coming out, right? And so this was back when, you know, Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, that TV show was just coming out. Right. And so up until this point, I didn't know what I was doing. I didn't know it was like an image consulting type of thing. And I was just looking for something to pay the bills because at that point I was like, I was broken. And, you know, the fitness center was my only dream my entire life. And so when that's not like, okay, well, posted my first video and I got the first comment and I realized that that's sort of what I've been searching for my entire life was just like validation and, you know, having an outlet to be able to help somebody. And so I think that's really why, you know, it's sort of grown the way that it has. I mean, I joke around, but it took me six years to get my first hundred thousand subscribers. And then it took me another like 11 months to get another 900. And so it's scaled fairly fast. You know, once I got to that,

you know, 100,000 subscriber mark, but. That's different than the way that I thought it went down. I thought just one day you shaved your balls and you're like, I need to share this with everybody. It's self-man. Come on. That's amazing. Yo, Alpha, I said earlier that I'm just a fan and I truly am. Before I started working here with Mark, I was a freelance photographer. was a freelance photographer and one day I'm like looking around I'm like dude I don't know how to dress I I look like shit all the time and I don't know what what pushed me to search YouTube and then your videos came up and uh to this day I still use the same trimmer that you recommended like four or five years ago and sorry if it doesn't exactly yeah yeah that's the one man it's like 35 bucks on Amazon uh apologize if it's not like

up to standards right now but uh what i wanted to ask was like was there a uh like a moment in in your life where like maybe like a chick broke up with you or like you know you got bullied or something and you're like you know what fuck this man i'm gonna step up and you know basically become this alpha you know m character or you know just yeah like man i'm gonna step up and you know basically become this alpha you know m character or you know just yeah like was there something that kind of triggered you or you're like you know i am gonna be the man now you know it's funny not really and this is um um you know i there's this this friend of mine that i know that um has another like style youtube channel called the modest man and it's for style for short guys.

And I was on a podcast with him and he said something that that was interesting. He said, Aaron is short, but he doesn't realize it. Meaning that I don't have this like big, like super, like, you know, Napoleon complex or anything that I should have because I'm only five foot six. No, I've always, you know, I think really it, the, the, you know, the whole catalyst of this was me just trying to figure a lot of stuff out when I was growing up, you know, I was always, you know, I was into like hair, and I was into all like the stuff that, you know, my wife jokes that I'm a gay man with a straight penis.

So I was into all that stuff. And really, it's just my, I'm an only child. And so I think that sort of also sort of fed into this idea that I always sort of just like help my friends. And I've been very comfortable talking about myself and talking about things that I've struggled with or I've dealt with. And back then when I started this whole thing, the reason I started it, because I've dealt with. And back then when I started this whole thing, the reason I started it because I was looking online and there was really no resource out there for just regular dudes to get basic advice on things like shaving your balls. And, you know, what do you do with butt hair if you don't want it and, you know,

things of that nature and, and style, you know, style. A lot of my, my friends and my dad and these dudes that I know, they weren't reading GQ magazine or Esquire just wanted to know will chicks dig it pretty much basic you know simple stuff like that i'm like hey let me let me start talking about this stuff and and um it's been a wild ride ever since if i walked into a salon and said i need a brazilian they would probably shut the place down right guys don't do't do that. You know, chicks usually do that. So you're hitting a topic that, yeah, people are probably, you know, wanting to know like, yeah, how do I groom properly?

How do I take care of this stuff? What's funny is when people, you know, recognize me now when I go out, they're like, yeah, I watch your videos, but they'll never like actually admit to what video they watch or what video they found me. It's like, it's cool, man. We have like a secret, like, you know, understanding. So is it hard? Is it tough

being the style guy? Uh, and then, and then to go out like, you know, sometimes like maybe you don't feel like, uh, you know, trimming up your beard or whatever. Sometimes you don't feel like, you know, maybe taking a shower or looking great. Maybe you just feel like kind of being under the radar some days. That's every day, Mark. Yeah. I am, you know, I'm, I'm a hack. Come on. Let's be honest. Like I am a total hack. You know, everybody else on YouTube is more stylish than me. I'm a, you know, I'm a 43 year old guy who, you know, just likes clothing. I like style and things of that nature. I like looking good, but, um, but now I'm a, I'm a, I'm just a regular. Yeah. I gotcha. But, um, you know, style and stuff is, is funny, but it's funny because when I

meet people, a lot of times people will automatically apologize. I'm sorry. I'm wearing this. What are you talking about? I don't notice this stuff. I apologize for wearing these flip-flops. You know, before everything you're, you've been doing now in terms of style, and there's been a big fitness component in a lot of your videos too, before you, you were like focused on fitness. I mean, that was like everything you were doing. So how has like, I mean, focusing on fitness and that realm had an effect on everything you're doing right now. So, so starting to work out is, is the best decision that I ever made in my life. I mean, I truly feel like exercise and fitness.

That is my love. That is my passion. At 12 or 11 years old, I saw the movie Rocky III, and I saw Sylvester Stallone in the Russian. I'm like, fucking A. If there's a body that, if I can look like that, like if that can happen, can I not curse on you? No, that cursing is fine, but saying the wrong Rocky is not. That's Rocky 4, my friend. Come on, we got to get our shit together around here. I just lost my man card again.

So I saw Rocky 4 and that was it. Like I saw that those bodies and I'm like, my God, you know, if a body can look like that, that's what I want. And so I had a really crappy home life. I had some abusive stepfathers. But the one gift my mom gave me at 12 years old was a gym membership. I said, Mom, because I was down in the basement, you know, with those like plaster weights, you know, just, you know, listening to Vanilla Ice on my, you know, headset, you know, jumping rope and doing pushups. I'm dating myself, right? Nice-sized baby, man. That's always incredible. And so I was down there, and my mom gave me a gym membership back when I was like 12 years old. And she would drive me to the gym, and that's when it all changed for me. I mean, I went from sort of this very quiet – I was quiet because I – just the adverse effects of

having abusive stepfathers, you kind of learn to just keep your mouth shut. But when I went to the gym, man, that was it. Like that was where I found my confidence. I found my voice and I love everything about it. And so from 12 years old, I knew what I wanted to do for the rest of my life. It was to have a fitness center. That was it. And so everything I did up until the moment that I opened one and then ultimately lost it was, was, was based on fitness. I, you know, competed at natural bodybuilding. I did, you know, when I got out of college, I, I, I helped the gentleman open the chain of nutrition stores. And so my whole life has been fitness. I was a certified ACE trainer. Like when I was in college,

I was going for business management because i knew that i wanted to open a gym and um and so i was like hey i want to be a personal trainer too and so i you know went and studied for the ace exam this is back like before the internet so i had to actually go to washington dc sit down take the test i failed it the first time and so you know i went back took it um i think back in in the day there was only like ACE, ACSM, and maybe like one or two other like reputable, um, um, certifications, but, uh, but no, that's what I I've always wanted to do. And then, um, I have integrated it a lot into my fitness, um, or into my YouTube channel, but I've stopped doing now I'm scared to, to be honest, um, because of all of the information.

Okay, so let me unpack this a little bit. You guys have a question or I'll talk. Like, if you wind me up, guys. Okay, you sure? Okay. So when I was doing the natural bodybuilding and the nutrition store and, you know, fitness, I grew up back in the days of, you know, Rich Gasparri and Dorian Gates and, you know, the Flex magazines and Joe Weider. And where did you get your information from? Right. You got it from

other dudes in the gym that were big, period. Like, what are you eating? This is what you eat. And then, you know, when I started doing the certification, I started learning a little bit more about, you know, biomechanics and nutrition and taking nutrition classes. And so I started to learn, but a lot of it was based on what now is considered like bro science. Well, when I stopped the fitness center, this was back in 2006, that's right when the internet was sort of starting to do its thing. And since then, there's been a lot more like information, a lot more studies, a lot more studies, a ton. And so now, I still have the mindset.

My learning stopped when I left the fitness center. When I had to file bankruptcy, it's like, that's it. I've got to change. My education on all of these topics, for the most part, stopped at that point. I still have the pro mindset of a lot of the things that I learned that worked for me, that worked for Arnold, that worked for, you know, a lot of the, you know, guys that were coming up. And so now with everybody, who's an expert on X, I'm an expert on, on YouTube, you know, they're going to, and for me, I'm a target. So if I say anything that's not

technically like factually right, based on two studies done by some, you know, bizarre Zimbabwe tribe, like I am going to get ripped into ass. And so now I'm petrified. And so my, like everything I thought I knew, like what's black is white. What's up is down. Like, I am like, I don't know what the hell I'm doing. Everything I doing is wrong like i can't believe i've survived this many years lifting weights with all the dumb information that i have right that's kind of like the way that i feel but i say that tongue-in-cheek uh but everybody is an expert these days as you guys yeah a lot of it's really interesting because like the uh quote-unquote like bro science that people get upset about it's just stuff that like you mentioned you go to the big guy in the gym like you go to the how'd you get your bench

you know how are you benching four plates for five reps or whatever those are the guys you go to and you learn the guy just kind of over trained for the last 20 years or whatever like a scientific person would say about that style of training you know but a lot of it's just uh as we all know it's just like hard work it's consistency and i i think a lot of bro science type stuff exists in the first place because it's effective it works great yeah um well i'm curious about this too then because like you know a lot of guys do look at you for the style stuff, but you have an extremely like respect, respectable physique, what you've built, you know, with this bro science. And I do think like what you've done has the value of being shared because you've done it. You know, a lot of people that do share information, right?

The scientific type of information. They may be able to cite all these studies, but then they haven't actually done some of the things they're talking about. You're a guy that, okay, yeah, you've been using bro science and maybe you haven't spent time really thinking about it since 2007, but look at what you've got. Let me tell you, I'm in better shape. I look better with my shirt off at 43 years old than 99.9% of the dudes out there telling me that I'm wrong.

And so, you know, it is what it is. And yeah, I appreciate that. But yeah, I mean, it's just about consistency. I haven't missed, like I haven't in the, since 12 years old, I don't think I've skipped a week that I haven't done something, whether or not it's, it's, you know, lifting weights. Is my connection still okay? Yeah, you're good. You're good. Okay. You know, whether or not it's, you know, cardiovascular or strength training,

I mean, it's consistency. It's about eating right. It's about, you know, not abusing your body too much or at least abuse it when you're young and then when you start getting older, start, you know, taking a little bit better care of yourself. How come being a natural bodybuilder, natural athlete, it seems like that's really important for you. And why is that? It's, it's, it's not necessarily that it's important to me just because it's the choice

that I've made. You know, but I mean, I've been exposed to, you know, steroids and, you know, all this stuff from a very young age, but it was just something I think it kind of goes back to like Rocky IV, thank you for correcting me, Mark, where it's, you know, it's I saw this, you know, in my mind, this little dumb 11 or 12 year old kid, I see, you know, the Russian, you know, taking steroids. And in my mind, I was I was like oh that's the easy way and then you see Rocky you know in the in the basement lifting horses and shit and it's like that's what I can do Rocky can do it you know the truth is is that Stallone was what I know now um yeah no I just uh I just have never you know being big never was like really my thing I always would you know when I was competing in natural bodybuilding shows, this was before.

I mean, I won natural nationals in the SMBF back in 2002. And so this was back before, you know, physique competitions. Everybody had to pop, you know, rock the posing panties and do the thing. And so I just always, I just, I always got results. I always, you know, look good. And I never just decided to go that route for me. But, you know, like every single one of my friends and people that I know, you know, choose something different and that's absolutely their prerogative and good for them. Is it strange to you that you're empowering a lot of people and that you're kind of like a mentor for a lot of people, even though like you originally started out?

Just I'm just going to try to show people how they can kind of, quote unquote, clean up their act a little bit. And now you're empowering a lot of other men. And here you are, a guy that didn't grow up with great guidance from a male parent. Right. great guidance from a male parent, right? Yeah. When I realized that I had this audience and that I had this sort of this voice and people were actually listening to me, it really, like it shook me to my core. YouTube has made me be a better person. And the reason I say that is because I don't ever want somebody to meet me. I don't want to basically be that dumb ass idiot that says one thing and is representing himself differently, you know, in real life. And so YouTube has made me like, I don't like, I don't drink anymore because I know that, well, there are multiple reasons for why I don't really drink anymore. But, you know, I just don't want to be an idiot.

I don't want somebody to look at me and be like, Oh, that guy, you know, you know, has said something and done something else. And so, yeah, it totally is, as, as made me be a better person. And I take the responsibility of having this voice in this audience more seriously than pretty much anything. I mean, it's, it's very, very powerful for me. What are some things that people can do in the gym to just look a little bit better? Sometimes like I call in here at, at super training gym, I call it like we got an A squad and a B squad and the B squad, even the newer lifters, for some, they wear like shittier clothes and they have shittier sneakers.

They don't look like they don't look like a fitness professional. Like sometimes a fitness professional might have a cool pair of sneakers on. They might have like a matching outfit on and they might they might look like a fitness professional. But some of the B-Squad, I mean, they look like they're shopping at like Walmart or something. And I don't even know where they get some of their clothes. You're like, none of this is adding up. It doesn't make any sense. It makes you look fatter than you really are.

I don't know what the look is that you're going for, but it ain't working, whatever it is. What are some things you've seen in the gym that are just like absolute, just, you know, people just need to stop doing it? I hate, honestly, and you guys might wear them and i apologize if you do but like um homemade like uh tank tops that have like the sides oh that's the worst the rock wears that all the time he cuts them way deep almost to get the nipple out explain this for a second it looks horrible i've never seen anybody that doesn't look like they have love handles and and boobies wearing one of those things you You've got to be like, you know, literally like 4% body fat in order to like actually look decent.

And, and the majority of us just don't look that good. And so, um, that's something that just drives me absolutely crazy. Um, and, uh, you know, there's those stupid ass masks those oxygen like that cracks me up i see people i'm just like you look like the term like that's it's like come on and it's usually like the 45 year old out of shape you know guy with the dad bod that's doing that thinking uh you know i saw some youtuber right uh i read a study it's okay but yeah, you know, I saw some YouTube. I read a study. So, okay. But yeah, you know, just wear sleeves that are short, man, to show off the tricep exposure. It's all about tricep exposure. A lot of these guys in my gym, they're like unaware that they gained 30 or 40 pounds over

the last couple of months because they're powerlifting. You know, they're trying to get bigger and you're like, dude, that shirt doesn't fit anymore. It's not only is it too tight, but it simply doesn't fit. You need a larger size. One thing that – one of the guys that works here, his name's Tom. He's like medium in the gym, large in the streets. I'm like, okay, that makes sense because I can look bigger here in the gym if I wear a tighter shirt.

But in the streets, I want to look like a normal human. So I'll wear the shirt that actually fits. You know, I'm curious about this too. You mentioned that you spent six years getting to 100,000 subs on YouTube. And then it was like another year where you got from like you gained another 900,000. You've been super consistent throughout that whole period of time. another 900,000. You've been super consistent throughout that whole period of time. Now, what's allowed you to like have that type of consistency through the whole process of that super slow growth? Not fall. I mean, have you fallen off multiple times or do you just have

like what built that consistency for what you do? Just, I mean, I am, it's one of those, I think once I started and I started getting like feedback and people that were actually like interested in what I was saying and I was being reinforced, you know, just, it feels good, right? You upload a video and you see the comments and people are like, you know, hey, great job. You know, of course you've got, you know, the a-holes that are telling you, you know, that you suck, but you could be teaching blind kittens to read on the internet and somebody

would have a problem with it. Right. And so, um, no, it was just, I think it's very selfish, the reason why I've been consistent, because I get so much validation and I get such a personal reward from sharing my perspective and interacting with people that it's just, it's totally selfish. That's the reason why it feels good. And so I've been consistent. And I think when you've been as low professionally as I was when my fitness center and everything was,

was shutting down, you know, I just don't want to lose it. I don't want to, I just don't want to stop this. I don't know what the next five years are going to look like or 10 years, but if you would have told me 10 years ago that I'd be still doing this. And if you would have told me 12 years ago that I'd be still doing this. And if you would have told me 12 years ago that success would mean, you know, filming videos and talking to a camera, I would have punched you in the face because that was not what, what success was going to look like to me.

It was going to be having a chain of, you know, group fitness facilities that, you know, it was going to rival curves at the time. And so what are some of the selfishness? What are some of the videos that led to this explosion in the amount of subscribers that you've had? You know, I've never had a viral video like a classic like I've seen some of your videos on your channel.

Mark, that are just like with the strong man, like like just insane viral videos. Right. And that's one of the things that just escalates you in terms of subscriber growth, you know, overnight. I've never really had that. Mine has just been just through brute force and just consistency really more than anything. I've had a few videos that have done well recently, but in terms of that growth, it's just, you know, sometimes you fall in favor with the YouTube algorithm and sometimes you don't. And it really boils down these days, as you know, sometimes you fall in favor with the YouTube algorithm and sometimes you don't. And it really boils down these days, as you know, it's thumbnail and title are the two most important things to grow. That's it. Like, it doesn't matter how amazing your content is, how great your camera is, if you're 4K or 180p, if your thumbnail and your title is good, people are going to click and watch that video.

When did the, like, an opportunity to monetize the YouTube channel come to be? And like, because you say you're, I mean, we know you were doing this. I'm a sellout. I'm a sellout, right? That's what everybody tells me. Well, cause, cause you were doing this before anybody else really, um, as far as like, you know, promoting like a certain like company or something. So like, yeah. How did that come to be? Yeah, no. And that's the thing that I think when people, because I do, I do a lot of promotions. I promote pretty much something on every single one of my videos and I'm doing four to five videos a week. So that's a lot of

promotions. They failed to realize that for the first five years of me putting out content was not monetized at all. I think, you know, it was about six years ago, I got a shirt sponsor that was like, Hey, you know, you want to build some custom shirts and we'll pay you to put an ad on the front of your video. I'm like, pay me for this? Of course, let's do this. And then since then it's, it's, you know, it's escalated. And then back four years ago, I hired my best friend from high school to actually help me sell advertising and marketing for the YouTube channel. And then we started a company called Menfluential Media to basically help sell advertising for other influencers and YouTubers and podcasters in my space, in this space with this specific demographic. And so it was probably about like six years ago when it

kind of started, but it's really just, you know, exploded. I mean, this is back before there was a word influencer, like that's something kind of new. Um, and so, yeah, so I never really was like big into like the merch or anything like that. I'm curious about, cause like, yeah, you do like do advertisements to your videos, but it's always something that's really useful for your subscribers and something that is like useful for yourself so how do you navigate those waters because i feel like a lot of people that let's say they are creating content and they are in a place where they can start doing monetizing in some way they're scared to because they're scared that their audience is going to think ah just a sellout

you're just trying to trick me or something. But like when you put forward your content, it honestly doesn't seem that way. Yeah. I think the, um, the biggest hurdle and stumbling block when it comes to doing promotions and advertising on YouTube is, is just making sure that, that you believe in the product that you're promoting. There was one product in the history of me doing products that I regretted that I regret promoting. And it was a supplement. Actually, it was a testosterone boosting supplement. I as soon as I and here's the thing about that, that supplement, right? I because of the nutrition store background, I under you know, I knew exactly what was in this like, testosterone boosting, like multivitamin type thing. And so I'm like, Hey, you know, I knew exactly what was in this like Testosterone boosting like multivitamin type thing and so I'm like, hey, you know I'm like this is a legit, you know product that I believe in all the ingredients like it's nothing like crazy

There weren't any like crazy claims, but I got absolutely Shredded the moment that I put that video off. I'm like you dumb motherfucker This is like I've been that but that was the time when I realized, because I am the type of guy, I learned everything the hard way. Why don't I drink and drive? I got a DUI 10 years. I have to learn things and go through the process. I've never been good at learning from other people's mistakes. You just really need to be disciplined in only promoting products that you love and you believe in. Now, that being said, it doesn't mean that, like, so here's the other thing. Like, I promote watches, like movement watches and Sarah watches, but I own, you know, a few Rolexes, right? And so people are like, oh, you know, how can you do that?

That's, you know, you're just wanting these lower quality watches, but you don't believe in it. But here's the thing. The majority of people cannot afford a Rolex. The majority of my audience are people that just want a cool-ass watch, and I love watches. And so I'm going to promote a watch that I feel is super cool and sexy and isn't going to break the bank in $100. And so really being disciplined and not just taking a paycheck. hundred bucks. And so really being disciplined and not just taking a paycheck. The position that I'm in now because of, you know, the agency and my YouTube channel, I have for every one promotion or product that I take to promote, I turn down probably 20. And so, you know, you just need to

be disciplined and that, you know, comes with time, but it's tough. Right. And everybody who says, you know, oh, well, you know, you're a sellout. And Oh, how, how do you, how can you promote that product? I joke with my friends. I'm like, if somebody would take a sack of cash and drop it in your lap and be like, you don't like the product. Could you find a few things that you like about it?

Right. Did you meet your wife from being a YouTube celebrity? No, thank God. No, I met her at a karaoke bar. Actually, I met her at the gym, but then our love solidified when I was at a karaoke bar. It was like the 5th of July. You were singing?

Oh, yeah, and I was quite intoxicated. It was really bad. But that's how that happened. It sounds like you're good enough, man, to pass the test, right? No, no, no, no. That was the thing. She's like, man, so bad and he's confident enough to get up there? She's like, I'm not.

How did you go from having the fitness center fail to a lot of success in business now? Because you've been on Shark Tank even more than once. So, like, how did that evolution happen? You said you only learned from, like, your own mistakes. You had mistakes in this fitness center. And then you were able to move on and really have a lot of success. Yeah. So, at my core, I'm an entrepreneur.

I love business. I love selling things. I love creating products. Like, that is who I am. It's in my DNA. And and so it's all just kind of happened, you know, reasonably, you know, it's been slow. It's been an evolution. I've tried different products along the way. I tried doing like the e-product route because that's what all my friends were doing. along the way. I tried doing like the e-product route because that's what all my friends were doing. You know, and I just was not good at it. And the first time I was on Shark Tank was for an e-product that was actually DVDs. That just shows you how, like how much of a dinosaur I am, right? I'm like, DVDs, yeah, but just pop it in. Well, computers don't even have hard drives anymore or disc drives anymore. And so, you know, from that it was it was oh let me try this and then um i i decided to start a hair product you know grooming company and that grew and then um you know from there i tried apparel i didn't want to deal with apparel because sizes and returns is hard and i just didn't

want to deal with it and then you know started a skincare company and and recently my most recent uh venture is a sunglass company that, you know, I do, I made sunglasses, custom sunglasses and figured that out. And just, I love business. I love, I'm also an, you know, an opportunist in terms of, you know, if I, there's something that I want to try, I'm going to try it. And if I fail, I'm going to fail really quickly and move on. And, and I'm also not scared to fail because when you failed at the magnitude that I failed in my fitness center, you know, when you're that broke and you're, you know, I was driving a beer cart to basically put gas in my car at that point in my life. And, um, you know, I was in my thirties driving a beer cart, which is kind of

a little bit of a, um, you know, reality check and definitely puts things in perspective. But yeah, I mean, you'll, you'll, you'll do anything to, to figure it out. And so I just, I love business. What was it like being on Shark Tank? You were on there, you've been on there more than once, right? You've been on there twice. Yeah. It's amazing. Shark Tank, Shark Tank is just such a great show. If you're an entrepreneur, it's amazing Shark Tank Shark Tank is just such a great show if you're an entrepreneur you're into business it's amazing to

be around just smart people and watching Shark Tank you can learn so much a lot of things that a few things that I think about when I watch Shark Tank is like some of these people need better friends right like like Mark if you would have went on there with the slingshot, what do you think they would have said?

Oh, yeah. They'd be like, what? Probably wouldn't have been good. Yeah, exactly. But it's one of those things where, you know, people need friends that will actually be honest with them. And Shark Tank was just one of those experiences where, because I've been making YouTube videos for so long, that was like my Super Bowl, right? Like, wind me up. I've got a, you know, personality. I can turn it on when I need to. And it's like, let's go. The thing that

was shocking about Shark Tank the first time is what you see really is what you get. When you walk in, you don't get to meet the sharks ahead of time. If you screw up, they keep rolling. I thought it was like, oh no, you got your pitch wrong. You can start again. It's not like that. When you come out of those doors, they tell you there's that oriental rug that everybody's standing on. There's a little X. They say, go stand on that X and don't talk and just stand there. We need to get mic levels.

We need to get audio. And you're just standing there in front of them. And so you're standing there for like 30 to 45 seconds just staring at the shots. They're getting shots. You're looking uncomfortable. And all of a sudden, you'll at the shots. They're getting shots. Did you look uncomfortable? And all of a sudden you'll hear a voice that says and pitch and you start and it's just go from there. But the thing that really sucked the first time I was on, I'm standing there and I'm all nervous.

I'm about, you know, I'm freaking out. And all of a sudden I see Barbara lean over to Robert and say, oh my gosh, look at his ears. I'm like, I'm like, really? I'm about to pitch on national TV and you're talking about my pointy little ears lady. This is great. And so, uh, yeah, it's, uh, it's intense, man. It is a, it is a very, very intense atmosphere. Something else you'll notice is if you're watching it,

watch everybody lick their lips because you're so nervous, you're hot, your adrenaline's going, and there's no water for you to drink. And so everybody is licking their lips. So now I've ruined it for you. Now you're not going to be able to watch it without looking at people licking their lips. It was amazing. It was a great experience. I loved it. I would go on again if I could. And I believe you ended up landing a deal on there too. Is that still something that's going on? No, no, I killed that as soon as we got back. It was when I, when I went out there and I went on the second time, they weren't interested in my hair product business, Beaten Bejo. They were interested in the fact that I had a large YouTube audience, but at the time

that I went on, I only had 600,000 subscribers, but it was still a large audience. And so she, Barbara, was investing in my social media platform. Yeah. And it was like, I got home. I'm like, I can't do that. And really, for $100,000, $100,000 isn't going to change my life. And having a business partner definitely good. And so, um, I just decided, Hey, thanks,

but no, thanks. This isn't going to be late for me. It's hard to turn away from, you know, situations like that. Cause you're thinking, man, I could really link up with someone powerful and you know, it's, it's almost easy to like undersell yourself in some situations like that. No, absolutely. Yeah. But if you don't sell yourself in this world, gentlemen, nobody's going to do it for you. So you gotta, you gotta, you gotta speak up, you know, because that's something that, uh, you know, this life is hard, man. And it's super competitive, right. And it's getting more competitive, I think, in the way and the world that we live in. And so you got to stand

up for yourself. And if you want something, you got to go out and get it. Nobody's going to give it to your help you do it. Can you go in a little bit deeper with that? Because you just said $100,000 isn't going to change my life. And I'm sure 100,000 people just heard that and said, yeah, right. So can you explain why you had that thought in your head? Yeah, right. So can you explain why you had that thought in your head? Yeah. There are multiple reasons why I had that thought in my head. You know, the moment I had $5,000 in my bank account is when I personally had fuck you money. I grew up on welfare. And so from the time I've been alive until the time I had $5,000 know, so, so, you know, I had from the time I've been alive until, you know, the time I had five thousand dollars in the bank. Like I struggled every single day.

I would wake up and I would think about money. How am I making money? How how am I going to pay my bills? How every single day. And when you're stressed about money and when you worry about how you're going to pay the bills, how you're going to put gas in your car, how you're going to eat, you know, that is like that. There's nothing more powerful than that, in my opinion. And the moment I had five thousand bucks in the bank, that was the moment when all of a sudden that for the first time in my life, I didn't think about money one day. I'm like, damn. And what happened from that point was everything opened up my mind.

It's like for my entire life, I had this like pervasive weight on my shoulders or on my mind that I was always thinking about how I was going to pay the bills, how I was going to eat. And the moment I had $5,000 in the bank, it was the moment that my creativity blossomed. It allowed me to start living. And so, um, you know, I don't, I, you know, I don't, um, I don't need a lot, right. I, I, I, I'm a pretty simple dude. Um, you know, I've gotten less simple as, you know, my businesses have grown and as I've become more successful, but you know, I can do with that. Like I, you can have all my, you know, you can have my car, you can have my, I don't need all that. The fact is, you know, I, I can do it with that. You can have my car. You can have my car. I don't need all that. The fact is I, right? She wants to go to work. She wants to have her 401k. She wants to leave it at the office, you know, at, at, at the end of the day, but that's not me. It's not what I was

built for. It's not, you know, what, what's in my DNA or my nature. And so she'll always say something like she grew up, you know, without a lot. She'll always say things like, I can't believe did you ever think we live in a house like this? Did you ever think this? Or can I never thought she would always say that I never thought we would. And I, she's like, did you, I'm like, I never thought I couldn't. I just knew that if it was going to happen, I could figure it out. But I believe in myself and I know that I can figure it out. I can figure the shit out. And if I, if I need to, I can, you know, make something happen and I can earn $100,000 in another way. I just need to be smart enough and work hard enough to figure it out. And that's one

of my sort of superpowers is just being, I'm a pretty hard worker and I can get creative when I need to be. Yeah. Being like naive and being a dreamer is a really powerful component to the whole thing. And I've always been that way myself. And so sometimes when somebody asks me those kind of questions, I'm always like, yeah, I never, I never even really thought about it. You know, I never thought about it not being a possibility. So I'm on the complete, you know, opposite side of the spectrum sometimes of, you know, where my wife might be.

But to go back to your example of $100,000, I think that people, you know, really view that as like some enormous amount of money. And it is, it is a huge amount of money. But if you were to give someone, you know, eight or $9,000 a month for the entire year, you know, obviously that would have a huge impact on their finances and the things that they could do. But once 12 months have subsided and you don't get that money anymore, what then? What would happen then? What would things look like two or three years down the road? And so your example of $100,000 isn't going to really change my life. What are you going to do? Pay off debt? What are people going to do? They're going to maybe make some car payments.

You know, they're going to, people are already living beyond their means. So a hundred K unfortunately for a lot of people still isn't really going to do much unless they were paid a hundred K for the next several years. Exactly. Yeah, no, I agree. I mean, you know, a hundred thousand dollars, here's the other thing that, that I would have, and this is just, the internet will fuck up your perception of the dollar. That is something that is, I mean, it's just, it's a fact. I know to make one, okay, just as an example, when I was a personal trainer, when I had my personal training studio, for $1,000, right, that was 20 sessions. I had to work 20 hours to make $1,000 back when I was in my personal training days. That's like, now these companies are throwing money at you like $1,000.

It's ridiculous. And something that I am so glad I had the opportunity to grow up when I did and to struggle the way that I did and have to work nine to five jobs my entire life, as opposed to just coming into the internet and finding success early. Because it's like, I see these young kids and these young, you know, influencers and people on social media that just don't have a concept of how hard it really is to make a buck. And they're so far out of touch with reality when it comes to money. And it's new though, the internet and the way that we can earn money and the way that you can earn money and scale money when you have an audience and when you have a product that people like, it's crazy. But yeah, I mean, money is for the majority of people that are not

on the internet and even the people that are on the internet, it's hard to make money on the internet. You've got to find that product. You've got to find that audience. But, but once you do, then it's like, it's, it's, you know, a hundred thousand dollars isn't going to change your life. No, you mentioned that you, obviously that you always worked hard. You also mentioned that you always have the mindset to figure something out. Like, you know, did you ever think you'd live in a house like that? No, but you'd figure out a way to do it. So I'm wondering now, like you have all the, you have a massive audience. You've had a lot of business success throughout this time. And even currently right now, have you always like, how have you developed yourself? Like,

what do you do in terms of developing, getting better, et cetera? Are you a person that reads a bunch of books? Are you just a guy that just learns through and just does things and experiences it, mistakes and moves on? Like, how do you go about it for yourself? That's me. I, and this is one of my big insecurities. I don't read much in terms of books. I can't tell you the last book that I've read. It's just not something that I've ever been comfortable doing or really enjoying because my mom, she was a hippie. Everything goes back to your childhood. I watched the Elliot Hulse interview you did. That guy is fucking off the reservation.

But anyway. I used to watch Strength Camp, and I'd watch that video. I'm like, oh, my God. He's changed a lot. Yeah, understand. So what the hell was I even talking about? You were talking about your mom and how you don't read books. Your mom's a hippie. Yeah, so she stuck me in this Qu Quaker school when I was in kindergarten and they teach you how to read. It was the last school in

the country that taught you how to read by phonics. It was this form of, of, of spelling called ITA. And then in first grade, so they teach you to spell things, how they sound. And so in first grade, they just switch you over. Okay. That's not the right way. And then they start trying to teach you how, how to spell, you know, the way that you're supposed to. And for 99.9% of the kids, no problem. Well, for that 0.01% of that 0.1% of kids, you struggle with spelling your whole life. And so that's something that I struggled with, you know, grammar and, you know, I've struggled with. You know, grammar and, you know, spelling and reading is not something that I've ever enjoyed. And so it's something I don't do. So me, I need to get out there. I'm a doer. I want to try things. I want to experience things. You know, that's how I learn. That's

how I grow for myself. But yeah, that's a big insecurity because in the world of the internet, everybody is talking about books and personal development and, you know, you've got to read these books. And so I've been on podcasts before where they're like, what's your favorite book? And I've actually lied before. And, you know, because I watched the TED talk from Simon Sinek, I'm like, they got you lying or whatever. I've got a bookshelf with some books on there. Yeah. Yeah. What about reaching out to, what about reaching out to like, what about reaching out to like mentors or something like that or reaching out to maybe a company that you admire or someone that you admire?

Have you done any of that just to kind of like, since you don't like to read, done any like just kind of rubbing elbows with some other people to gain more knowledge? people to gain more knowledge? No. Unfortunately, I haven't done that either. I work a lot. I enjoy the process of figuring things out. And so I don't, and that's another one of these things. I understand that mentors are amazing. A lot of people get tons of value from it, but it's just not something that I've ever taken the time to, you know, take a step back and seek that out. And so I'm so busy in my head, trying to figure out how not to fuck things up every day that, you know, taking the time to actually like masterminds and all that, you know, getting to get, I just, I got things I got to do. I also think though, it's so great though, that like you do things in this way.

Right. Because, I mean, with with all the podcasts you hear, right, a lot of people like like to read a lot and they have a lot of self-development stuff and they do the masterminds and get in groups, et cetera. And it's it gets kind of easy to think that if I want to be successful, this is what I have to go to, you know, to do to do it. And then you, you know, have you're just like, Hey, I just fucking work hard and I figure it out.

And you just continue to do things. I think it's great for people to hear, like, you don't have to go in this certain route to become successful at something. No, it's great that you're sharing that. Yeah. You just gotta, you gotta work hard and you gotta be creative and you gotta be smart enough to know when something's not working and look for other angles. And and, you know, there's so much information out there now.

I mean, you can watch a YouTube video on anything you want to learn. You don't necessarily need to go to college. You don't need to go. And, you know, you can learn all that, all that stuff online. I mean, there's so much information at our fingertips. online. I mean, there's so much information at our fingertips. Anybody who wants something, all you need is an idea and an internet connection. Willing to put in the work and be smart enough to try and figure it out. Do you listen to a lot of YouTube videos? You mentioned YouTube. Is that like a resource for you here and there?

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I do. Just when I'm doing cardio. Right, right. That's why that's why I'm YouTube done. How do you how do you end up? That's a weird question, I guess. But like, how do you end up being creative? Like what's what's a creative process look like for you? Like you think a great idea is why you're taking a dump or do you go to a coffee shop or like, what do you like to do? Yeah. Um, they come in some, all of the above. Um, it's usually the way that my process works. I have a journal that has, you know, I keep a list of video concepts or topics or ideas.

Um, I am most creative when I'm running. Like I enjoy running. And I think it's because my body is occupied. So my mind can just kind of like do its thing. And it's, it's challenging for my body. And I just love being outside and I get, you know, recharged and fueled by being by being outside. And so, you know, running every morning, I am at, you know, the coffee shop very early. And I know I've got my agenda for the year. Basically, in January, I know what video or what product I am promoting on what day for the entire year. And so it always typically starts with a, you know, what is the product and then what topic will integrate well and what do I think will fit? And so sometimes it's the list that I have.

Sometimes I'll go on YouTube and, you know, borrow creative ideas from other people. And I mean, everybody at this stage of the game, everybody's stealing from everybody else and just trying to figure out something that works. There's actually some science behind what you're talking about. So moving, um, they did it with walking. I don't know what the research would show from running, but I bet it would be similar. Um,

basically just walking at 3.8 miles per hour is what they found in the study, uh, can help a lot with creativity. So anyone who's like, you know, got a brain fart and can't figure out, you know what they want to do next, let's go for a damn walk or go for a jog.

You listen to music while you're running. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, man. figure out you know what they want to do next let's go for a damn walk or go for a jog you listen to music while you're running yeah absolutely yeah man some some vanilla ice vanilla are you kidding me it's still good on the create like you know my like it mark you know on the creativity side of things though like your content, I just find it so interesting because like a lot of people make content like vlogs, like daily life vlogs, right? So they're doing something different or they're doing some of the same stuff and their audience likes watching that. So you don't really, yeah, you need to come up with new things here and there, but you don't really have to, you know, you could just be doing the same thing if your audience is interested,

but you have literal, just like different topics every single day, or maybe a different iteration of a topic you may have talked about, but it's coming at a different angle. I know you just explained your process, but do you ever, do you ever think, oh gosh, I'm running out of ideas or do you just always have something new that, that just comes, comes up your way? You're always, I mean, I've been, I've been, you know, doing this now for, it's literally 11 years and I don't know how, but it just, you know, you, you're where there's a will, there's where I think, honestly, I think one of the reasons why I've been able to put out so much content and, and challenge myself creatively is because of the advertising. If I didn't have something to promote, if I didn't have something to promote if i didn't have to make a video today i don't

know that i would i would be as motivated to you know put out four or five videos a week that's you know that's that's a lot that's a lot of work i still do all my own editing i mean i that's something that i i don't i do my thumbnails i do you know all of the that's what i enjoy doing that's what i love and so so so yeah so that takes a lot of time i mean i know i do you know all of the that's what i enjoy doing that's what i love and so so so yeah so that takes a lot of time i mean i know everybody has you know typically has editors at this stage of the game and people doing it and my videos are pretty basic i mean i've got a room i've got a gray wall i've got some lights and a camera and so it allows me to you know rapidly put out content i only film one video a day like that's as much as i can

sort of handle and get up for and film i know a lot of people like batch videos that's just not my my thing but yeah it's the the advertising though has pushed me to to put out more content and to get more creative the uh the youtube lens landscape has changed so much since you started. Do you have any advice for some young alphas out there that want to get in the game and they want to become something like you or have a platform like yours? Yep, absolutely. Simplest way to hack the system is if you have a genre or a channel that you want to do similar content to, go find those popular channels and look at their most popular video and then copy it, not copy it in terms of, you know,

don't try and say what they say, but you know, that that topic, that thumbnail, you know, that it's, it's something that people have searched for or YouTube liked. And so that is the quickest, easiest way to hack the system. And so you see a lot of guys in the fitness space, a lot of guys in, you know, the style space, the grooming space, they, that's all they do. They just go, they find, you know, my videos or some of these other guys' videos that were popular. They do their version. YouTube's like, oh, somebody knew this topic was popular with a lot of people.

Let's start sending it out. That's the easiest way to sort of hack the system, but put your own spin on it. Change the title. Don't copy, copy, copy. I'm blatant about it. Yeah. How about monetizing it without being gross? You're asking the wrong guy. I don't know. I think one of the mistakes that people make when they start YouTube is, is nowadays when you think YouTube and all these, these kids think, oh, I want to be a YouTuber. It's like one of the, it's when like in schools, that's like the number one thing people want to be. I want to be a YouTuber.

They, they, they think that YouTube equals money. I think the people that are truly successful are doing it for the right reasons and then figure out how to monetize it later. You're putting out content because you've got a perspective, you've got a voice, you've got something you want to share as opposed to, okay, I want to put videos out because I want to make money. I think that's where it gets challenging. And you can tell. You can tell when you see somebody and you're watching it and right away it's into the sales pitch. Put out content, figure out your voice, what your audience responds to, and then be disciplined and figure out something

that they might be interested in buying or grabbing. And a lot of times, if they love you, they'll reward you by buying your t-shirts or your merch or whatever. A perfect example, let me tell you a perfect example let me tell you perfect example real quick there's a guy in the fragrance space called jeremy fragrance if you've ever searched for for cologne you're going to see this guy right he's got this incredible platform where he's not trying to be you know super you know snooty or anything like that he's just talking about you know what fragrances chicks dig and what are the best five panty dropping fragrances of 2007, right? That's like, that's what he does. And he has these pretty girls that come on and they smell for the entire channel. He's been doing

it for years. He gave out free content, you know, didn't make money other than like Amazon links and people believed them. They trusted him. And then he decided, okay, I'm coming out with my own cologne. So he did a Kickstarter campaign. That bull raised like a million dollars in like a week from his audience because he was putting out values, giving them something. He was becoming the expert. And so when he decided to finally be like, all right, guys, now's the time. Come buy this.

Everybody went because he did the legwork and he did the groundwork for years before he ever asked them to buy anything. What's your food and your training look like? My bro splits all day, every day. My diet is boring. I eat the same thing every single day, pretty much. You know, breakfast, I breakfast, I do like typically like a protein shake, and like an apple or maybe some eggs. You know, I'll like shit, like I'll do something for literally a year. And then I'll be like, Oh, I like oatmeal with a scoop of protein and some sweetener in there and some. And so, you know, lunch, I typically eat just like three meals a day. I used to be into, you know, every three hours you need to eat, you need to, you know, I used to be all into the meal preps and I still meal prep all my food one day a week on Sunday. I'll cook all my

meats. I'll cook, you know, my grains. I typically will eat barley or quinoa or a combination of both in terms of my carbs or sweet potatoes occasionally, but I got pretty burned out of sweet potatoes back in the bodybuilding days. Um, and, uh, yeah. And so it's, it's typically meat, a grain and, uh, some type of, of, of fruit and, um, you know, that's three meals or two meals a day. And, and then I'll have, you know, some snacks here and there, you know, nuts and almonds. I eat avocados. I eat a lot of fat, but I also do eat a lot of starchy carbs and things of that nature. For your training, you're doing some running as well? Oh, yeah. That's my thing.

I just love running. And so my training, I work out with weights Monday through Friday. Basically, it is basically a bro split. I work one muscle group a day. Some days I'll go into the gym twice a day. I have a little gym at my house. I just love exercising. So I love really committing when I'm doing an exercise, like, you know, if it's, you know, chest, I love, you know, doing a bunch of sets and I love, you know, doing it hard once a week and being sore and then, you know, doing a bunch of sets and I love, you know, doing it hard once a week and being sore and then, you know, doing triceps maybe in the evening or shoulders the day

before. Yeah, I will typically work out one body part per workout Monday through Friday. And the one regret that I have is that I didn't really get into like the big three lifts during my younger bodybuilding days. I mean, I wasn't doing deadlifts. I wasn't really even using, you know, bench. Um, and I've noticed in the past year, I've started incorporating a lot more deadlifts, bench press, um, and squats, free weight squats. I used to be, you know, using the Smith machine and trying to target muscles and all that. And my body has changed tremendously from just doing those three lifts. And it's,

it's been pretty, pretty neat to see. Have you ever messed around with a trap bar deadlift? No. Trap bar deadlift is great. Have you, you've seen one before or no? Yeah. Yeah. You stand and stand inside of it. You get to use your quads a little bit more. So if you have a gym where you have any access to a trap bar deadlift might be something, uh, really good to give a shot to, cause it's still going to work your lower back. still going to hit the hammies, still going to hit your quads, good overall workout, just like a regular deadlift. But having, you know, a bar, you know, kind of in front of your legs, like a regular deadlift can sometimes be taxing on the lower back and takes a longer time to really acquire a good skill for it. Yeah, no, absolutely. I,

I, I had the, the, uh, to meet Matt Reynolds, um, spend a little bit of time with him. Do you know Matt or have you heard of him? I do not. Uh, he was the, um, Mark Ripito's guy for starting strength. So Matt Reynolds, he runs that, um, end of the business for him or he did. I don't know what the correlation is, but I have a conference that I put on once a year and he has come to the conference and been like a, a, a, a panelist and given a presentation about, you know, fitness and things of that nature. And so, you know, it, for hearing that year after year about, you know, the big three lifts, you know, the big three lifts, big

three, I'm like, all right, all right, fine. You broke me. I'm going to do it. I'm going to give it a try. And so it's been, it's been good. It's been, it's been a lot of fun, but I'm not strong. I've never worked out for strength. That's the other thing. I'm like, I'm going to Mark Bell's podcast. I'm like the weakest guy to ever be on this show. Some of the women are stronger than me, probably. It's funny that you say you're not strong because a lot of guys would say, Oh, I'm not strong. They're actually closet pretty damn strong. So I think that's a lie.

You know, but, but when you're in the bodybuilding, you know, mindset, you're doing, you know, reps at 10, 12 drop sets, you know, it's like, let me beat the shit out of this muscle as hard as I can, as fast as I can. And, and it's not about, you know, it's, it's not about strength. And so as you guys know, it's a creature required. Gotcha. You know, since you, you've mentioned that you learn a lot from experience. What I want to know is like, you know, you mentioned that you, you don't drink now because like maybe you had a DUI or, and like, you know, your failed gym, which I'm, I'm curious about that too. But from a lot of these like experiences,

what are some of the main experiences that you've had that have made you shift in terms of certain things that you do now or certain habits that you have now? Yeah, no, the, the, the, the fitness center, that was, that was a huge shift for me because you know, like I said, since the age of 12 until, you know, I don't even know, I think it was like 31 or 32. The only thing I was focused on was that fitness center. And that was the only thing that was, was I was striving for. And the only thing I was looking towards for, for success and the feeling of validation. So that was the, probably the number one biggest shift. I needed to figure out what my plan B because the type of guy I am, I'm very, like, I'm, like I said, I'm not that smart. I can focus really hard on like one thing and that's where all my attention goes.

It's zeroed in. Like that's what I'm working for. I've got this one goal and I'm shooting for it. I never allow myself the freedom to have like a plan B or an escape plan. And so when that failed, it was a very, I mean, obviously it was emotionally just devastating, but the hardest part, it wasn't the financial ruin. It was not having that goal or that North Star to shoot for. Shit, I don't know. What do I do now?

What am I going for? scariest point in my life and just trying to figure out, you know, what next and what, you know, what is my life going to amount to now that my, my, my, my entire goal for my entire life is now taken away and that's not an option. And so that was the biggest, biggest shift, you know, in terms of, of that, in terms of, yeah, I just, for drinking drinking, I just I just decided one day that I was actually it's not it. I used to chew tobacco. I used to dip right. I used to dip like two cans a day. I got started with that. Back when I went, I went to West Virginia University. I had this buddy, Larry Bowser. He taught me how to catfish. He's like, Yeah, give it a try. And so I have an addictive personality. And so I started doing that two cans a day. And Ifish. And he's like, yeah, give it a try. And so I have an addictive personality apparently.

And so I started doing that two cans a day. And I just, one day I was like, you know what? This was probably like seven years, eight years ago. I was like, I just don't want to die from mouth cancer. Like I know better. I know that this is not a good thing for me. And so I'm like, I got to quit. And so I quit.

But in order for me to quit, I got to stop drinking because I was the type of person where I would drink, you know, every weekend and I would drink, you know, like 12 pack of beer or whatever I was drinking and I was drinking too much. And I think this was back when I was I wasn't happy. And so I think I was using alcohol a bit to sort of just like, you know, numb things and self-medicate a little bit because I think I was still just struggling emotionally. And so in order for me to quit chewing tobacco, I had to stop drinking alcohol. And that's when everything kind of like changed. Like I started feeling better. I started, you know, waking up and I was clear. I just, I felt amazing. And so I'm like, I don't want this to stop. And so I, I quit drinking so that I could quit tobacco and and um that was one of the best decisions I ever made for myself got anything else over there Andrew uh I definitely do um well uh even though we're all pretty much bald at the moment right now on this podcast one of us does it by choice. Mark actually does have

hair. I just get rid of it. Yeah, and Seema and I, well, I know for myself, I've been balding since I was like 23. Same. Okay, cool. There it is. Must be all the trend that we're on. Do you have any style tips for those of us that may

or may not be balding right now? Actually, yeah. May or may not, may be balding. Yeah, we're definitely balding for sure. It's gone. You know, you got two options, basically. You can just, you know, go with it and just deal with it and shave your head or cut it very short. Or you can, you know, there are a lot of advancements out there that can

actually slow the progression of hair loss. Propecia is the real deal. You know, Rogaine and Propecia, when combined together, is incredibly effective at slowing the, actually stopping for most men, the progression of hair loss. But it's one of those things where don't stick your head in the sand. Like if you see like, oh man, I feel like I'm losing a few extra hairs or you see them in the drain, you know, do something about it now as opposed to waiting. Uh, but yeah, I mean, I have had, I have some friends that started taking, uh, Propecia. There are, there are companies out there now, even just a company called Keeps. Um, you know, Bosley, all these places have protocols that if you want to keep it, you can keep it, but you got to start. Um, but some people just aren't, I mean, some

people say, oh, well, for fisha has sexual side effects. The truth is that for fisha is used to shrink prostates. And so it, it, you know, it's actually a prostate drug that they just found out had interesting side effects of not or of stopping guys you know hair from falling out and so yeah you've got two options shave it cut it short deal with it rock it bald is beautiful wear some facial hair facial hair is amazing and here's the reason why if you're bald right the eye tends to like if your hairline is receding the eye will tend to you know go up to the balding area. But if you grow some facial hair, bang, it centers you a little bit more and it brings people's eyes a little bit more down level with yours.

Cool pair of frames, another option. If you're bald, just do it, man. And I think guys that are bald with facial hair, I think, look amazing. Let's follow up on that. So how can you stimulate some facial hair growth if it's like not as thick like not as thick in some parts how can you get those parts thicker if that's possible or is there no time i still have bald spots like in my sideburns and stuff no time time will you know time and testosterone or the ones that change that right you see all these like these like men that are transitioning from like to men. They got better

beards than I do. Man. Yeah. Some of them really do kill it. Cool. But yeah. I was going to ask because we've been talking about the whole manscaping thing on the podcast and Seema has some good recommendations. Don't be shy. Go ahead and plug anything you can. But I personally, I've been reading reviews and you always see, oh, this was an amazing product. The next one is like, oh, it still nicked my balls and there's blood everywhere. So do you have any recommendations for cleaning up the rest of the body hair? Yeah, there's an amazing invention. I know the owner.

If you got back hair and you don't want to ask your significant other to do it, it's called the back blade. Um, it's this, it's, it's like a back scratcher with like these blades, this guy, Matt, that I'm, that I'm now friends with, um, develop. And it is amazing. Like it's, it's dry. So you can do it dry. It has a little guard on it. You can find them on Amazon and you can get your own back hair, no matter how big you

are, no matter how unflexible, um, you can get your own back hair in terms of a body hair, you know, it's, you know, grooming, uh, grooming tools are, are, are, are great. I don't know what other, but I, I mean, there are a lot of options for removal. It just depends on how much effort and, and, uh, you know, pain you want to go through. I have a product called a man groomer. It's pretty good for the back. It's like the back scratcher you're talking about, you know, just has a rumor is, is electric though, right? Yeah. Yeah. Just has clippers on the back blade, man. And it gets you nice and smooth. Oh yeah. And the man groomer is actually smaller. The, the, the back blade typically like it's, it's wide.

So you get a lot more like surface area I don't think anybody's digging back hair I don't have back hair I don't have back hair either I just have hair everywhere else but I know that a lot of your listeners probably do yeah they do

that like furry back neck hair thing that grows out of people's shirt you're like ooh that does not look good that's not a good look we were podcasting earlier and then we took a little break before we got on with you but i think everybody's stomach from the coffee this morning was like rumbling and grumbling because you know coffee can be a diuretic um so we were joking around about like you know poop stories that's a it's a big topic on our podcast and we're like man yeah yeah and i was like you know i was telling him like do i bet you alpha doesn't even have a poop story because he's that cool guy that he just has everything in place.

He's so on top of everything. But I guess there's only one way to find out. Do you have any crazy poop stories from back in the day or even recent? The more embarrassing, the better. Well, yeah, there's one that I can't share oh why not why not it'll ruin his entire reputation come on a girl i was dating that had a poop problem um the uh that's great and i think you can just take that for whatever you uh you ever whatever you uh choose to you know what, whatever you, uh, choose to, you know,

what, well, here's, here's the, here's the story. Um, when I stopped chewing tobacco, right. For you guys out there, if you've ever been on, you know, nicotine, you know, it first thing in the morning, boom, you wake up, you pop a dip in and literally 30 seconds later, you're like, I got to take a crap. And, and so that was one of the hardest things about quitting chewing tobacco. I'm like, what do I do? Right. I'm like, Oh, I feel constipated. Like it just wasn't happening.

And so I started taking psyllium husk. You guys know? Yeah. Yeah, man. Well, the psyllium husk, um, man, that stuff, I'm telling you the size of the, the craps that you take when you start actually taking psyllium husk, because it goes in and basically like holds water. It's, it's unbelievable. Yeah. And that actually, you know, definitely helped me, um, over the hurdle and hump of, you know, sort of getting

my digestive track back on track. Um, now, you know, I, I, I eat a, i eat a very fibrous diet i mean you know quinoa and all these different you know grains but i i was listening to one of your one of your podcasts where you're talking about you know when you do eat you know when you go keto that's one of the issues right like it can be yeah for some people for sure not eating what's that yeah for some people for sure yeah so what do you do like is there a learning curve like does your colon like For some people, for sure. You're not eating. What's that? Yeah. For some people, for sure. Yeah. So what do you do? Like, is there a learning curve? Like, does your colon like for a while? Well, so whenever whenever anybody shifts from one diet to another, a lot of things are going to change.

Your energy and your body is going to kind of change. Your poops will probably change. Some people that go switch to like a carnivore diet or a keto style diet, um, they get worried cause they're not like shitting as much, or even if they try intermittent fasting and it's like, well, you're just eating less, you know, you got to keep in mind too, you're dieting and you probably are maybe also consuming less calories. So people tend to, they tend to panic, like if they don't poop for a day, but it's, it's really nothing to panic about.

You'll probably be fine. Probably your body just needs some time to, uh, to get used to it, but yeah, you can implement fiber. You could implement something like a psyllium husk, but for whatever reason, I never have any problems. I'm always, I'm always shitting. Yeah. What, uh, so, so I've been, so I don't do keto, uh, but I've been hearing a lot about it. And I, and what really interests me about the keto diet and from what I've been hearing and learning about it is really the, the cancer prevention. Right. Can you talk, just educate me and maybe the consumer or the viewer a little bit about what are the reported because I, you know, even like in the, in the nutrition industry,

you can't say that vitamin C will help you get over your cold faster. You could say things like some of my clients take vitamin C for this reason. That's like what you could say. So, so what, uh, tell me a little bit about it. Yeah. So, you know, some people, um, some of the research is showing that a ketogenic diet and ketones specifically, uh specifically could fight against cancer. And a lot of the research has been done on these. They had a keto pet sanctuary. A lot of research has been done on dogs and our good friend Ron Penna, former owner and co-founder of Quest Nutrition. He did a lot of research on it and a lot of these dogs ended up in remission, but not every single one.

And also, it appears that it may not fight against all types of cancer. But I would also say that what would also fight against cancer is just general health practices, getting enough sleep, trying not to be overly stressed. And it's like, how do you try not to be overly stressed? But try not to be like overly stressed. And it's like, how do you try not to be overly stressed, but try not to be overly stressed. Um, and then just not consuming too many calories, you know? And I think, so I don't know if they tested like other diets or other restrictions, um, you know, head to head with, with a ketogenic diet, but I do know that ketones specifically, uh, are, are at least to this point, they've been researched and shown to have anti-cancer properties to them. But I don't know all the mechanisms behind it.

Is everybody on your show? Is everybody on a ketogenic diet? No, no. Like these, you know, we all three of us end up on kind of different, we end up shifting our diets around a little bit here and there. But, but for myself, um, I've been doing a ketogenic diet on and off since like the mid nineties. And I just, I love it. I just love the way I feel on it. I utilize that and I mix that in with, uh, intermittent fasting. And then in SEMA over here does jujitsu as well as a power lifting and bodybuilding. And he's, uh, incorporated a lot of intermittent fasting and also just reduce the overall amount of carbs that you were eating, right? Yeah, I used to eat a lot of carbs. And I mean, it's not like I was out of shape when I did,

but I just wanted to lower it just to see kind of how my athletic performance would be. And it honestly kind of improved. I just feel a little bit better. So I'm more low to moderate carb, fairly high fat. And I never used to think again, because I was an athlete and all the athletes around me were like, you got to eat carbs. You got to eat carbs. I was scared of lowering them. But when I did, first off, nothing happened to my shits. Like I still poop as much as I used to, even though I'm not eating nearly, nearly the amount

of fiber as I was. But my energy levels and like everything else is damn good. It's crazy. So yeah, we're not, we're not anti-carb or anything. You know, we like, I eat carbs and there's nothing wrong with them, but I just don't eat nearly the amount that I used to. Huh? Pizza.

You gotta eat a pizza. Oh, from time to time. Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't not eat pizza. I don't get, no, but I just don't like, I don't have that stuff all the time. I used to like, dude, I used to eat a Ben and Jerry's like almost every night, which isn't healthy at all. You know what I mean? It's like there are healthy carbs like you eat.

And then there's Ben and Jerry's. There's a difference there. You know what I mean? So yeah. We need to get back on that plan on the Ben and Jerry's plan. Yeah. You did that too, right? Oh yeah. Cookie dough, Ben and Jerry's, all kinds of stuff. So Mark, how's the business going? Everything's going great you know um where we're products yeah where we're podcasting out of this is uh slingshot headquarters and we have uh slingshot you know uh products the slingshot is the you know bench press device that helps with push-ups and bench press and dips we'll send you out some uh some products uh we make wrist wraps neat uh knee sleeves knee belts, all kinds of stuff.

And then I started up another business, which this is one of the products right here. This is called Mind Bullet and this is Mind Bullet Potion. I don't know if you're familiar with Kratom at all, but Kratom is a great product that I've been using for quite some time. Helps me a little bit with like clarity, focus, creativity, and just puts me in a good mood. As Nsema has said before, it makes it feel like you've been hugged a bunch. It makes you happy. And so it's a product that we've been selling for about the last six months. What is it derived from?

It's derived from kratom, which is a tropical tea leaf. It's in the same family as coffee so it's a stimulant but it's not going to stimulate you the way like coffee would it's not going to like it's not going to really wind you up actually some people like to take it before they go to bed and other people like to take it right when they wake up so it's it will kind of um it sounds like a bullshit sales pitch but it will kind of morph into like whatever it is that you need. It will, it will kind of fulfill that. So it's something that,

yeah, like I said, we've been selling for like the last six months and it's been going good. I'll send you some of that too. You can give that a go as well. I, I've recently been sort of experimenting with CBD oil and you know, do you guys do that?

Yeah. You know, I've tried CBD in the past. Yeah. I've tried CBD in the past. You guys don't believe in CBD at all? Yeah, I've tried CBD in the past, and I didn't notice anything drastic from it. I did have a CBD lotion at one point that I used on some achy parts and stuff, and it felt like there was some improvement, but I haven't really messed with the product that much.

It's not like I don't believe in cbd i've just really never never had the need to use it even with like all the stuff that you know we do in here i've just never felt the need like i've gotten messages like try this but i'm like if i i don't need it yet but i do like i know a lot of people that you know that say it helps them out quite a bit it's becoming really popular So I have no doubt that it does have its benefits. Yeah. You know, real quick though, I'm curious about this because you make videos every single day. You do a lot of work. Do you get a lot of sleep? Like, do you, like, what does that look like for you? I really want to know. Yeah. I, no, I get about seven and a half hours. Okay, cool. I go to bed early. You know, I'm married. I'm an old, you know, married guy. And so we, you know, my wife's

in bed typically by like eight 30. I'll stay up editing until like 10 and then I'll go to bed and wake up typically around like, you know, six, six 30. I've been sleeping a little. I used to get up earlier. I think I'm getting lazy, but, but yeah. What about you guys? Yeah. I'm in bed early. I'm in bed. I, I start looking at the clock at like 7 like 7 PM and I'm like, I need to figure out a way to, you know, start heading in that direction. So I, I try to always be in bed before nine o'clock as much as I can. Sometimes, you know, your circadian rhythm gets thrown off by different times a year. And sometimes it's hard to go down to sleep, you know, earlier, especially like in the

summertime, it's like still really bright out and you're like, this go down to sleep earlier, especially in the summertime. It's still really bright out. This is weird laying down when it's really bright out. But I usually wake up pretty early. I usually wake up between like 4 and 5 a.m. and just kind of start my day from there. Well, yeah, you'll have to come visit us sometime. Where are you at?

I'm in Atlanta. Yeah. Oh, wow. That'd be awesome to have you out here. Have you come in here and, uh, you know, uh, do some training in here in super training. Um, when I'm, and you guys are in, in where is it? West Sacramento. Okay. Yeah. I definitely would love to come out there and do something. That'd be a lot of fun. It'd be great. And I think we would get a lot of great advice from you, uh, in terms of a business. Um, cause you, you mentioned that you started up another business that's helping you're helping influencers or you're helping companies.

No, no, no. Well, both, um, we sell advertising for about 30 to 35 guys. So just for example, a dollar shave club. Yeah. So dollar shave Club will come to us and say, okay, you know, we want to do promotions. Then my guys will work with Dollar Shave Club to put together a plan and basically the budget for, you know, these different platforms.

And so it's been, it's been pretty awesome. We've, we've, uh, that business is as grown exponentially. And then, you know, as an agency, we take, you know, 25%, but it's upfront. Like everybody knows like what our fee is up upfront ahead of time, as opposed to some

of these others we'll get paid $10 and, but their main $20,000. Like, so everything for us is, is pretty much up front. Awesome, man. Where can people find you? Right there. Yep. We're still here. There we are.

Okay. Yeah. Just, just YouTube alpha M. There you go. Awesome. Having you on the show today. Have a great rest of your day. Thanks guys.

It was amazing. Thank you so much. Take care. Bye. Bye. Awesome. Awesome. That was great. today have a great rest of your day thanks guys it was amazing thank you so much take care bye awesome awesome that was great yeah man yeah he was cool he was fired up it would be amazing to have him here i think i think we'd get even uh i think we could even get more cool stuff out of him if he was like you know live in person it seems like that kind of person you can have him like he's animated and fired up you know yeah that's how he's all the well i mean i don't know

how he's outside of videos but like that's how he is you know i feel like having putting forward that personality it's it's magnetic it makes people also want to be that active or be more lively absolutely yeah i just remember watching his videos back in the day and being like okay so he does the youtube thing like okay cool like tons of people do that oh he does the youtube thing and he goes to the gym and films that also holy crap now he has another business like i mean when he was talking about like when he went on um shark tank and he's like yeah only i had under a million you know subscribers back then i was like damn okay so i have been following him for a long time because now that he has five million i'm like oh my gosh like in my head i'm like damn did he have that

much the entire time that i've known of him but so yeah that i mean that's how far back i've followed him and uh on top of that though like i seen all this and i'm like oh wait you you can be the you know the honestly youtube star because i think he's bigger than that but you can be a presence on youtube you can have an awesome body and then you can be a successful business person like i thought you had to be one or the other or the other and i looked at him and i'm like oh shit like okay this is possible how did he do it oh he worked his ass off like this is cool like so that was like kind of like the first person where i was like like oh okay you can be a savage in multiple aspects in life and it's just like it motivated me to you know it was just one of the the many uh like

motivational persons that have like life come across in life you know and just amazing that just did a podcast with him like it's really freaking cool man yeah that was that was good i like a lot of what he had to say and i i what what i also found and i hope people caught this is that he doesn't feel like an expert in a lot of stuff and um he feels kind of weak when he talks about like lifting and and nutrition sometimes but he still talks about it which is great that's a great lesson for everyone like there's so many people that are so scared to start talking on the internet and just don't be like just i'm not going to tell you not to worry about what people say, um, because we're all worried about what people think of us and we're all worried about what people say, but at the same time, don't be paralyzed by it. You know, just start,

start communicating this. You know what? The stuff that you're going to say, it's going to be dumb. Like it's going to be dumb and it's not going to be that good. And you're going to think that for a long time. And even as you get better, you're going to still think that it sucks because your target, your goal is always going to change. And you're going to raise expectations for yourself all the time. Yeah. And someone as charismatic as him to say like, shit, man, I don't want to talk about fitness stuff anymore because somebody is going to pull something up and say that I'm an idiot. So it's like, OK, if that guy feels that way, it's totally fine for me to feel that way too. Yeah. But we just did a podcast about getting started that went up today. So yeah, it's all quantum. No, man, it was great to be able to

get to talk to him. Cause I mean, I remember seeing his videos when I was like 18 and it's like, it's not like I was someone who watched all of his videos, but I would see a lot of his videos over time you know what i mean so like i've seen that dude like it's been what nine nine ten years now so that's dope yes that's awesome man yeah and i also like the uh like the slow burn you know he said i never had one video go viral five million followers subscribers like okay you don't have to like make that one thing to make it big you just have to be consistent as hell but maybe it doesn't hurt to be on shark tank oh yeah twice that probably

doesn't hurt strength is never a weakness weakness never strength catch y'all later