Mark Bell's Power Project - EP. 269 - Healthy Lifestyle Interrupts Everything

Episode Date: October 17, 2019

Today Andrew asked Nsima, "How do you define a 'Lifestyle' to someone who is just starting out"? He and Mark Bell answer and explain how a healthy Lifestyle will interrupt literally everything else in your life. Subscribe to the Podcast on on Platforms! ➢https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast Visit our sponsors: ➢Piedmontese Beef: https://www.piedmontese.com/ Use Code "POWERPROJECT" at checkout for 25% off your order plus FREE 2-Day Shipping on orders of $99 ➢Perfect Keto: http://perfectketo.com/powerproject Use Code "POWERPROJECT" at checkout for 15% off your order! ➢Quest Nutrition: https://www.questnutrition.com/ Use code "MARKSQUEST" at checkout for 20% of your order! ➢SHOP NOW: https://markbellslingshot.com/ Enter Discount code, "POWERPROJECT" at checkout and receive 15% off all Sling Shots FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell ➢ Snapchat: marksmellybell Follow The Power Project Podcast ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/MarkBellsPowerProject Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/  Podcast Produced by Andrew Zaragoza ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz #PowerProject #Podcast #MarkBell

I wonder if Andrew has that, like, skirt thing over there to hide his Congolese-ness. Is that, do you think that's what it's for? It was distracting the guests. Just hanging out. That big ol' python fuckin' pulsating underneath you. Dump, dump, dump, dump, dump, dump. Let me see if I can find that thing. What are you trying to find?

Not the other. Oh, no. Oh, man. Alright, now we're good to go okay and we're going we're going now we're going going damn well and sema's looking up penis stats on his phone yeah so congo is number one at 7.1 on average ecuador 6.9 ghana 6.8. Ghana, 6.8. Colombia, 6.7. Venezuela, 6.7. This is flaccid, by the way. Out of 80 countries, the UK ranks a slightly below average 54th. Sadness.

The most important 1% I have. You have. Congo. Oh, man. That's. Kongo. Yeah. Oh, man, that's hilarious. 23 and me. Everyone's like, Kongo, please give me Kongo. Everybody's super excited when it shows up and super disappointed when it doesn't.

Oh, man, that's so crazy. It's so sick how they can do that genetic testing though i mean on a side note like how they can just like tell everything of where you're from hopefully it's legit from an evolutionary standpoint like for caucasians it's just like you know we don't really need that big of a dick anymore so we're just gonna short we're just gonna shorten it up how did how did evolution make this decision and why? It's a fucking cruel joke. Oh, man.

You guys are from cold places. That's true. Maybe. Maybe we can use that as an excuse. The sun just makes everything hang out. And then on that chart that you were looking at, are Asian people even on there at all? There's just question marks on there. It doesn't say anything.

I need to look at a bigger chart. Oh, man. I just need to look at a longer list. I don't know how you found this information, but you're an amazing researcher for us. I appreciate it, sir. Yeah, you're welcome. It's what I do here. Somebody's got to do it.

He's going to be like, and the biggest biceps come from Nigeria too. Why would you look at that? I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, look at some of our Nigerian bodybuilders. Was the guy that just broke the marathon record, was he Nigerian? Nah. He's African for sure, but he's not Nigerian. Oh, Kenyan.

Is he Kenyan? I think he's from Kenya, yeah. That makes sense. That's where all those studs are from. Yeah, I think so too. Unbelievable. Under two I think so too. Unbelievable. Under two hours for a marathon. But you know, they're not going to count it as, well, it's going to be like.

It takes shits longer than that. Yeah. Since he had like. Whatever, when you add up all the time throughout the day, for sure. Oh man. Cumulative. I can't say that word. did you guys see any clips of it the run no yeah yeah i didn't so he had a bunch of like other top marathon runners like running

with him in different parts of the race to keep him on pace for two hours because he's actually run a legitimate two hour and 22nd marathon is that why this is like an unofficial world record because they were talking about how it was kind of like designed for him to be able to like break this record. Yeah, apparently Nike's been working on this kind of project to break the two-hour barrier since 2017. And

they've been working like primarily with him and other top runners to see who could do it. And he was always the closest. So yeah, like throughout the race, he had a bunch of pace runners that were also top-level runners running at pace in front of him so it's like he had a pace line that he had to keep with so that by the end he could be at and probably like a traditional race you don't have that yeah oh hell no yeah so otherwise he would probably just be like super like way far way far ahead of a lot of people so that way he would probably ease up because he's just trying to win right exactly exactly so i think um there was a year where in the hundred meter where people went

sub uh nine seconds and uh so there so there was uh or sorry sub 10 seconds sub 10 seconds so the 10 second uh mark was there for a long time but when they broke nine seconds guess how many other athletes broke nine seconds a lot yeah four yeah four out of like six or eight however many race in the 100 meter i think it's just six so there's only two other guys in the race i think that didn't break it so it's like yeah you're gonna you're gonna go as hard as the guy next to you it's pretty interesting pretty amazing when you think about things like that. Speaking of all that, we're trying to build a good culture here at Super Training Gym, and we're always trying to push each other as hard as we possibly can.

But there's other places where they do that too, and that's my boy Jesse Burdick up at CSA, Combat Sports Academy. Jesse Burdick has a whole lineup of awesome lifters and we had a seminar here at super training this past weekend we call it a second saturday seminar and it was awesome man it was a lot of fun and um you know jesse's like he's he's my my bff my big fat friend i always call him and uh i've known him for 20 years but i i every single time he gets up in front of people and talks, I forget how good of a teacher he is. He's unbelievable. He was really doing a good job making people understand the material,

but they have a lot of really strong men and women up there. Jeremy Avila is someone we're always just completely baffled by, an 887-pound deadlift. Sarah, I always forget her last name and I shouldn't but she deadlifted at 622 I think her hamstrings were crazy she's so strong and then there's Tiny Tiff who can fit in your hand

you can fit on the palm of your hand and she's incredibly strong squatting over 300 pounds and deadlifting over 300 pounds. And she's just maybe more like 400 pounds. At 97 pounds. Yeah, she's just, I think she did three point something times her body weight. Sarah Schiff. There we go.

Yeah, so he's got a great group of people up there and something that I've always, uh, held from Louie Simmons, a quote that he shared with me was this kind of idea that if you walk with the lame, you'll develop a limp and you got to have really, really strong, like-minded people around you that have similar goals, um, that will help elevate your game. I'm sure that's happening at jujitsu. And, and that's even why every once in a while, maybe you go to another jiu-jitsu academy to roll with some other people just to get that different vibe and to see the intensity and to see how they work and then you get back to you know being around some of your guys you even mentioned like specifically there's like a few people that you're pumped when they're there

because you know you're going to have a better workout right oh yeah of course you know who's going to push you you know what i mean like especially with jiu-jitsu you can like it's one of those things since you're going against another person there's certain people who roll with that you know you can't you're not gonna roll at 100 with you know you're gonna bring it down because you want to like you got to slow down for them but there are certain people who you're gonna push they're gonna push you're gonna push they're gonna push and you push each other to another level every single time you train and those are always like obviously the best roles but i feel like you need that around you you know if you're going to progress i don't know like there are probably some people like i i wonder sometimes how you know some

of the top competitors that maybe they don't have someone who's at their level at their school how they continue to get better because there are a few of those you know there are a few of those out there there's some uh power lifters we see that just train by themselves yeah bryce lewis completely by themselves um mike to sheer years ago he used to just go in his basement in total 2100 pounds by himself god raw doesn't make any sense yeah he'd be down there and he would you know squat like mid-sevens and then he would bench close to five and then he would pull 800 pounds he was the one that have like his own mock meets right yeah yeah what a freak no music uh-huh like you talk about a lunatic talk about somebody that might burn your house down that guy's got to have some

really crazy thoughts going on in his head at least that's what you would assume but maybe he's just thinking about his technique yeah this is one of those sports that you can make it happen though since it is like in most ways it's an individual sport yeah you don't need other people to like play with right yeah you could simulate the real the real thing right like in basketball you can't play with everybody else baseball you definitely can't yeah you can practice but you can't actually simulate the real thing which is dope so you guys know that i'm moving and like one of the issues with moving was like what the hell to do with a lot of like my supplements and then like i was really concerned about my meat i was really concerned about my piedmontese meat because

uh and he was like oh we'll just bring it all up to the gym and i was like we can't do that we can't let everybody have we can't everybody have this meat this meat's too good. We did bring some of it up here for some of the guys and girls to enjoy. I was like, man, we've got to get it over to the other freezer as quick as we can. Even if I need to drive my ass over there for it.

The family's been huge fans of the sliders. I've been throwing those on the grill in the smoker. I tried even taking one apart and shoving cheddar cheese in the middle. It was okay. It didn't work out fantastically.

Sometimes they do that with cheese. They stuff it inside of a burger. It's kind of hard to do. Yeah, I learned that I can't figure it out. It's not as simple as A plus B equals C. It's like you have to figure stuff out and I don't know how to do it yet. There's a lot of math.

Maybe you need to melt it, put it in a syringe, and inject it into the meat. I don't do syringes, bro. You need to carry the one. Maybe that's what you forgot to do. I could never carry the one. I always forget.

I never show my work. I just Google it and then I get in trouble for just getting the answer. Trying to use a cheat code. I still get it wrong. It happens. I've been enjoying those ribeyes still

and enjoying the fillets and Piedmontese has been good to me and hopefully they can be good for you guys. Andrew, how can they get a deal? How can they get hooked up? Well, if they're smart enough, they can carry the one and Piedmontese will be there to help you out.

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i'll just bring a bunch of these chips and she grabs a bunch of quest chips and stuffs them in her bag i was like i guess that's gonna be the way it is for today moving is tough yeah i i do feel like there is some aspect of it that's kind of cool or like you're you are almost like camping like i wouldn't normally eat dinner out of like a plastic bowl or whatever but like but since we're moving you know i can't i can't get out the good dishes and yeah you're all confused on where everything is luckily andy's you know super organized so she's been she's been on top of all that. But it's just like this one day. And then this morning, I was trying to find some socks.

And she's like, don't look in that. She goes, don't look in that bucket. She's like, that's all mismatched socks. And I was like, I can figure it out. So right now, I'm actually wearing one black sock and one green sock. Because I was like, I can at least match up the types. It'll be the same. Might be some different colors.

Anyway, with my life in some disarray, I'm still able to reach for some Quest bars and some of the other Quest products we have around the house. Been eating some of that Quest pizza and all that good stuff. So how can they get hooked up with some Quest products, Andrew? You guys can head over to questnutrition.com at checkout promo code mark's quest for 20 off and i highly recommend you do it on the uh the quest chips uh listener of the show hit me up and said that they tried the uh i think it's like chili lime or something like that right and he's like dude these are insane like i told you guys even though i i to be honest i haven't had that flavor yet but i'm sure it's amazing because i've had all the other ones.

So that's where I would go with that. 20% off code is straight to the chips. Cool. Yeah. Damn, my Jets finally got a win. They played the Cowboys and the Cowboys. Nice. The Cowboys have been good as of late and the Jets were able to beat them. They had their starting quarterback back in the lineup and they actually looked like

they, they actually looked like a professional team. They looked better than a Division III football team, which is probably the first time all year that they were able to do that. J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets. So this is just loyalty here, right? That's all it is. It is? Okay. Yeah, I've been a fan since I was a kid.

Unfortunately, they've really never been good. But when I was a kid, they at least scored a lot of points yeah that's what they were known for they would they were able to put up a lot of points actually their quarterback actually is a graduate of uh uc davis and uh i didn't know you guys will find this interesting he was drafted so in 1987 is the most prolific draft year in the history of football because uh john elway went in that draft and dan marino and i might be like speaking like a little bit off on a couple people but anyway there was some really highly touted uh quarterbacks um that later went on to like playing super bowls win super bowls be um hall of famers and ken o'brien from the university of

davis was selected over everyone else he was the number one draft pick overall in the entire draft he was such a beast and he played great for the Jets but because the Jets are the Jets they like kind of screw up everything all the time he he threw for a lot of yards and threw a lot of touchdowns but he also got sacked a lot and um he just uh he threw a lot of interceptions and stuff like that too. But every time, when I was a kid and I watched the Jets, I mean, you could be sure they would score like four or five touchdowns every game, which in pro football, it's more common to maybe just have

like two or three maybe. So it was pretty cool to watch them growing up. They were an exciting team, and they would always be at least close in the kind of bigger games. I don't know. I don't know why that happens, you know, when you're a kid. But, like, the Giants were good. And I could have easily just hopped on that wagon and been a Giants fan because they actually won. And they, like, won Super Bowls and stuff.

But you can't be both for some reason when you live in a certain town. Like, I was Yankees and Jets. And even when the Mets did well and stuff, I was never a Mets fan. It's weird. And I guess here in California, it's the same thing. You've got to pick a California team. You can't have four or five of them going for you at once, right? That's odd.

I was going to say, because normally, isn't it Jets, Mets, Giants, Yankees, right? Yeah. Because they're like the Jay-Z to the Jets' Nas. Yeah, like the flashier, high-profile people like the New York Jets, or Giants and the Yankees. But yeah, here in California, you can't be a Giants fan and an A's fan. You can't be a Niners fan and a Raiders fan. Niners fan and Raiders fan, there's definitely, I mean,

if you go to a Niners game with a Raiders jacket, people lose their mind or vice versa, right? Like you might even get beat up going to a Raiders game wearing a 49ers jacket. Yeah, I remember it being pretty damn dangerous. Yeah, yeah, flat out dangerous. At the Coliseum, yeah. I somehow managed to find myself, it was when I was younger, so Halloween party, woke up, hey, you're right, it's going to this Raiders game tomorrow. Like, you have to go. I'm like, nah, I'm a N, hey, your ride's going to this Raider game tomorrow. You have to go. I'm like, no, I'm a Niner fan.

I can't go. And then I woke up there. And I was like, oh, shit, I better not tell anybody. And yeah, it gets pretty volatile out there. Huh. Well. It gets hostile. Speaking of the Niners, they're undefeated.

5-0. 5-0. Yeah. I know Anseem has been following really closely along this football season. He's got a fantasy team going and everything, right? Sick. No. Hey, you know what?

Don't feel bad because I used to watch so much football. I used to know everyone's name. I used to know the college the dude went to. I don't know shit anymore. I don't know much anymore. I mean, I know a good amount because I still follow it. Yeah. But there's also the entrepreneur side of me and the side of me that wants to get I don't know much anymore. I mean, I know a good amount because I still follow it. But there's also the entrepreneur side of me and the side of me that wants to get after stuff.

And I'm like, is my relationship with the TV and NFL football? It's probably not even healthy. I need to go do something. Get the hell up. Go for a walk. Stop being so fat laying on the couch and eating pizza or whatever I'm eating. I felt like that yesterday watching the game because it was the first game that i've watched like from literally like like oh the game's gonna be on let me turn it on turn it on while i'm making the pete monti sliders actually um turn it on and i watched it all the way through that's the first time i've

done that in like three years maybe probably more yeah and then i remember afterwards i felt like ah dude i could have done literally so many things right now. And I just threw it all away, but it was, it was really cool, man. Like it was fun to watch it. Sometimes you need that.

You need to just be able to watch the thing, but like, I like basketball more, but I haven't even maybe really watch a basketball game. Same. I'm more so college. Oh, pro.

I used to have to like pay attention to highlights. Yeah. I love basketball. I love, as a kid, I loved, I used to play a lot of basketball. What was like the one thing I had to give up because I would just always my knees would always kill me.

Like I could play football and I could lift and I could do all kinds of stuff. I mean, I guess it was for the better. I wasn't very good. So it was probably it was probably OK. But I just I love a sport where like football is like football you have like a destination like each player has like a certain spot they gotta like go to

and then the defender just follows the offensive players around and so you have like spots you need to like run to all the time, but I love sports that just have hustle in them, you know, like volleyball for example, like I even like playing volleyball because I saw that video yeah of uh quinn killing that was insane yeah she closed that game out yeah yeah she shut those kids up she was like what's up kids uh it was a lot of fun uh watching her play but like even for myself you know getting on a court like that um that or

basketball where it's like yeah like it helps if you're highly skilled and if you can really shoot and if you know how to you know if you if you know how to handle the ball i mean that's in basketball that's so huge right but just running around is kind of fun and you try to like you know like uh maybe i can't shoot as good as the next guy but hopefully i can get to the ball quicker than him just because i want to just because i want to like run towards i love stuff like that yeah and it's so crazy like uh we see pros playing and it's just like oh this guy's running full speed and he lays the ball in like that's so easy oh my god it's impossible it is so hard to run full speed stop and shoot the ball and they never miss it i mean it's so rare and and it's like you see people like oh come on like what do you like

you have no fucking clue how hard that is to not only do that full speed shoot it and have the literally the best like you know your opponent is also the best player like ever remember jason kid he would never fuck up oh my god he would take off see the floor it just and like he you know he'd lay the ball up and you're like oh oh, he's clearly going to throw it off the backboard. But no, he would just lay it up, wouldn't even use the backboard, and would go right in every time. You're like, how the hell is he? Jason was insane. How is he doing that running full speed?

There's a seven-footer in his way. I don't understand it. And they're moving, too. They're moving fast. People don't also realize, like like you mentioned the stopping and changing direction at a time like try running like that and then trying to change direction you will you will have to make a curve you can't just you know go at angles like these guys do it's crazy oh and by the way dribble a ball and dribble a ball and have it not go right off your foot right

yeah that shit definitely happens that shit's hard i haven't i haven't really watched much much basketball but i guess the basketball season's starting up we just had the phoenix suns strength coach uh was in the house the other day that was really cool to have uh cory schlesinger uh here and then it's really been neat how how there's kind of this like network of people they all know each other uh cory was here and then two days later keenan robinson the uh u.s olympic swimming strength conditioning coach was was here and uh he was telling me what a mutant michael phelps is and some of the other athletes he works with and that was really cool and it's really cool to hear how these these guys are they share information and and they're taking stuff from powerlifting and using it.

Keenan was like, you know, the number one exercise we have our athletes do is a reverse hyper. And he's like, right behind that, they're doing slingshot bench press and pushups. Because a lot of swimmers, he said, have shitty backs. Because a lot of swimmers, he said, have shitty backs. A lot of times it's because they have – they got some really good mobility through their lower back. And they're able to move their back a lot. Kind of the shifting of the hips and the lower back when they do things like a breaststroke. And he said because they're kind of like wiry in the way that they're built, he said there has to be some attention to some lower back training.

And so he's been trying to figure out for a while, you know, he's been watching West side stuff. He's been watching this stuff here at super training. And he's like, that's great. The way that they're able to have these people, you know, lift heavy and get stronger backs. But he's like with my athletes, I'm afraid I'm going to like, you know, hurt them. So he's had them do a lot of reverse hyperextensions,

which I thought was really interesting. That's pretty awesome cory was also mentioning something like when he was here the other day he's like yeah um i have to be even more careful on these guys he's like nah it's just absolutely make sure they cannot get hurt you know yeah but like it's so important for these guys to strain train it's just they have to be so i guess the strength coaches just need to be so uh not just careful but there's another one i'm looking for that i can't think of they have to make sure that these athletes are feeling better you know from a workout and not and not feeling but how do you make someone feel better and give them a good dose of something that'll get them stronger because we talk about it all the time

here on the show is that it needs to be like challenging yeah sometimes it needs to be a little bit of a roll the dice sometimes you get like you need to kind of be like i don't coach wants me to do what like sometimes it needs to be like that a little bit right yeah and i can assume some of these guys at that point they're just like if they don't want to do something they're just not going to do it you know because like at the end of the day it's their say you know so like that that that's got to be a different type of game as a coach i think if you're playing that long game though then you can kind of cory slessinger um is having such an impact on the strength conditioning world it's really cool

because he's still really young that a lot of other coaches are following suit and they're just telling their athletes i just want you to work on this one thing and so cory does a great job of like he really lined everybody because they're doing to work on this one thing. And so Corey does a great job of like, he really lined everybody cause they're doing a lot more than one thing. They're really almost always doing two or three things. There's like one main thing that they're doing. And there's also like a warmup beforehand and a cool down afterwards. Um, but the warmup and cool down stuff is just movement and that's going to make the athletes feel really good. Um, for example,

he might have them, um, doing some like duck under type of work where the athlete is like ducking under like a rope or ducking under a bar. Um, and then, you know, squatting under it and then coming up out the other side and doing things

like that, where it's just like, I'm just going to get you to move because I know that your joints and everything, everything's getting stiff from the, uh, from all the activity and everything. We just want you to move and get warm. So you might have, have them do something like that. And then the main thing for the day, um, might be like a rack deadlift for a good set of five. And he just wants the athlete to, you know, have some good control with a weight that is challenging but he doesn't want like blood shooting out of their nose you know that kind of thing and

then it'll have a move into some other movements but i think that's great man that's a great way to sell it to athletes is let's have you work on you know we're going to train pretty much every day that's what he does almost nearly every day five to seven days a week. And then like we're going to focus in on one thing each day. And if an athlete does say, hey, you know what, I don't want to do it, it doesn't matter as much because they're training all the time. Yeah, it's going to be like, you know, the sport of basketball, you see athletes of kind of every single size, you know, from Steph Curry all the way up to the new Zion Williamson.

Have you seen that dude? Yeah, he's a monster. Two, 70, six, five, six, six. So like, that dude? Yeah, he's a monster. 270, 65, 66. So like, I mean, and he could play football too. But like in sports like football, that's where you see a lot of guys lifting like a lot like power lifters. And I think that's, I like sports like that.

Where, you know, you really, what you do in the weight room and how strong you are can play a much bigger role in terms of the impact that you have on the field. Because in basketball, it plays an effect, but not so much. the weight room and how strong you are can play a much bigger role in terms of the impact that you have on the field because in basketball it plays an effect but not so much like even if you're a guy like zion right there are a bunch of other guys that are much smaller than you that can be just as effective of you as right but in football there's that's a big difference right and then in uh in like baseball right like getting big strong. I'm sure it has an impact. And you know, um, you put on some size and put on some weight. I think putting on like size and weight

would probably even be more impactful than simply, um, just being able to like bench squat or deadlift more. Yeah. Like if you, you know, obviously like through lifting would be a great way of doing that, but powerlifting and almost a diet that follows powerlifting might have you cracking more home runs. If you look at Barry Bonds' career, I'm sure Bonds was dedicated to the whole process in a bunch of different ways, but he put on a lot of weight. And just the fact that he put on a lot of weight,

regardless of how he did it, that probably had a huge impact on how he was able to smack the ball around so much i'm trying to think of a sport that being bigger and like just being big and strong isn't a benefit like even tiger woods does quite a bit of resistance training quite a bit of dead lifting you know he's when you go when you when you see that guy he's a strong dude uh something like tennis i would say so like i've I would say so. Like I've seen – Yeah, yeah. So and then we've talked about this before, but when steroids start to come into play, if your sport has a lot to do with your cardiovascular, then it might be to your detriment.

So like in baseball, it probably doesn't matter too much. You take a bunch of juice and you get all jacked up and you're 40 pounds heavier and as long as you um you know as long as you've been swinging that bat and your hand eye coordination is similar you know it might take you some time to adjust to it but it's probably not gonna take that long you're probably just gonna notice like shit i'm a little stronger and i can push some of these balls that are in certain spots a little further than i thought before maybe i have to'm a little stronger, and I can push some of these balls that are in certain spots a little further than I thought before. Maybe I have to swing a little earlier. It might be a couple little things.

It probably takes a couple months to adjust to it, to really tweak it. But I have seen it in MMA where some of the athletes have gotten big, and then they've gotten in the ring, and they don't have any more conditioning. They get gassed out. They get gassed out. They get gassed out. I've seen it with like Vitor Belfort, probably the most famous of the bunch, where he was like 205. And Vitor Belfort, if you bring up Vitor Belfort versus Tank Abbott and Vitor Belfort versus like he fought some big fat Italian dude too. He smoked these guys, smoked them. I mean, he threw like 40 punches in probably like 30 seconds, 15 seconds.

I mean, they just couldn't do anything. But then when he came back and fought later on, he probably put 20, 30 pounds on and he wasn't as effective. Tank Abbott was the man back in the day. You know, the thing I loved about Tank Abbott is that his record was like 11 and 15. Like he lost a lot of fights. But he would, you know, it's funny because he would always talk shit afterwards. He'd be like, so what?

The guy got me in an ankle lock. He's like, big deal. He like didn't even bother to adapt and like learn the jujitsu side of it he was just he just thought that was weak he's like i just want to trade hands with people man he's like forget about forget about tying people up like a like a pretzel yeah but underneath a little bit of that fat that dude is uh oh yeah look at those traps yeah look at those traps man well he's actually i think like in this particular fight, like, he's in pretty good shape for him.

He was strictly a bar brawler, you know, back in the day, and then he got in better shape and started taking it more seriously, I think, when there was more. But, man, he knocked people out violently. He actually has a 600-pound bench. Look at Vitor, though. Yeah. Oh, my God.

What the hell? And so Vitor, I think, right here, I and so and so vitor i think right here i mean i don't remember his body weight here but um if this is the first time that they fought um from what i recall he just just goes in there and this might may not even be the first time they might have fought more than once but he just goes in there and smokes him and his hand speed and stuff is just something that no one can deal with but then then the next time he comes back, obviously he's probably enhanced here. And when he comes back, he's got like 40 pounds more of enhancement. Jesus.

This is back in the original UFC days where even the referee was like, I might as well get on some shit too. Big John McCarthy. Oh, wow. Wow. Oh, man. Oh, and he goes for the arm. Oh, wow.

Wow. Oh, man. Oh, and he goes for the arm. Yeah, this was, you know, the original UFC, you know, years ago was pretty damn fun to watch. You'd get nervous when you'd watch it. I remember having to go to, like, the back of, like, Blockbuster and rent them. Oh, yeah. Because, like, I didn't know where to find them, and that's the only way. And I just remember remember every time we did i felt like we were doing something bad why did you say the back of blockbuster is it like not allowed or something yeah it was well

they like look how relentless he is oh they didn't promote it you know like uh it was honestly it was like next to like all like the adult rated like ah yes tank abbott is tough, by the way. He's just getting annihilated. Oh, they just ended it. Wow. Yeah, he was getting smoked. But anyway, yeah, like in a sport like that, I think where there's conditioning involved, if he got too big too quick, then maybe you wouldn't be able to breathe

when you went to do your sport. That's why they're getting caught with SARMs or SARM-like compounds like carderine because it just enhances your endurance big time. You said they're getting caught with SARMs or SARM-like compounds like carderine because it just enhances your endurance big time. You said they're getting caught with stuff like that in their system? Yeah. It's weird. I think that's more one of those things

where the testing caught up to it. It was the new thing. They were doing it and then it caught up. So now who knows what's coming next. Always something. A bunch of cheaters. Can't believe these people. What did you think of the seminar, Seema?

It was great. First off, like, Conjugate is... Honestly, though, were you sitting there the whole time just being like, I could do a way better job than all these guys? No, I was not. No, I was not. If anybody, like, people see Jeremy, like, I don't know, pull in video, but it's different when you see him pull in person.

Yeah, what was that about? It was so fast. The speed doesn't change from lift to lift to lift. Like 135 all the way up. I don't know. I think he pulled maybe 495 or six plates, maybe 585. Speed doesn't change. Like, he keeps that speed the whole time,

and that's just so wild to me because it's like when I do sumo, I expect it to be slow off the floor you know but jeremy it's just like bam bam and even jesse was saying and i i think it's really cool um how jesse talked about how like he instead of like trying to make jeremy pull in a certain way he's like oh he can box jump 65 inches he's super explosive let's train this explosiveness right he pulls sumo differently than anybody else I've seen. I think K.R. pulls in a very similar way, extremely explosive, but it's very different from a person like Yuri.

Yuri, like Belkin, is one of those classic sumo pulls where he's a little bit slow off the ground, but once that bar breaks the ground, he drives through. It just goes to show that there's a lot of different ways to lift. You don't have to. There's a lot of different ways to do it. I found that to be really cool, too, because it was was like, obviously they're attacking some weaknesses, but they're working on a strength and they're working on some of that explosive power. And obviously like,

you know, for someone that pulls sumo, you're going to also be attacking some conventional deadlifting. You're going to do some deficit training because you know, the whole thing of a sumo deadlift is to, you know, gain some advantage through some leverages. So why not have some disadvantages with leverages occasionally in your training too? And maybe that's, maybe that's not in the form of a deficit pull, but maybe you just have in your programming, you have some RDL, some stiff leg deadlifts. You got some exercises where it's like, okay,'m gonna you know put myself in a slightly different position so i'm working slightly different muscles um but yeah i thought you know the the contrast of the lifters i thought was really great too because you got to see tiny

tiff and her bar is not moving very far but she doesn't have a whole lot of body weight on her yeah you know and then when sarah was going i mean she's got to move the bar freaking really far with how tall she is and everything. Oh, yeah. And then she's really efficient, and she had good leg drive, but she's also an athlete that's going to use her lower back a lot more. And it kind of shows you, like, there's a bunch of different ways to do this. though, is how fast Jeremy moves even the lighter weights, because I feel like a lot of us, if we were to try it, I don't think we could move it anywhere near as fast as him, even though the weight's not challenging. So it's kind of interesting.

It's like normally when you try to move a weight fast, you know, a deadlift is different than some of the other lifts, but let's just take the case of the bench press if we were just to bench press the bar as fast and as crazy as we possibly can normally there's some like deceleration that goes on because our bodies are you know the human like machine is probably the greatest machine that will ever be created nothing will ever be smarter than it's like wild right we don't even know how a lot of things work can't figure it out there's a lot of deceleration that goes on when you have a resistance that's not like an optimal weight it's not the so if we were to take bands if we were to take bands and we were to do 20 reps with bands and the bar even though that's way heavier um that would move a lot faster than if you were to do 20 reps with

just the bar which is kind of weird but it's because the bands um they you have to accelerate into them really really fast the entire time so you would do let's just hypothetically say you did 20 reps in 10 seconds whereas if you just did the bar by itself, I would just assume that it might be slightly slower than that. You might get a little less reps in that same time period. So when I was watching Jeremy do it, I was like, maybe his like joints, ligaments and tendons and stuff are just, you know, really healthy. Obviously he's able to tap into some fast twitch muscle fibers that are maybe a little different than the rest of us he's able to um you know recruit a lot of motor units and and uh able to recruit a lot of muscle in a short

period of time his like rate of force development uh is is probably really good yeah but it was just mind-boggling to me because i was like if i tried to move you know if i tried to just move a plate and i realized he's he's much much stronger than me and you know as we always say strength is never a weakness so so being strong obviously is a big factor here but i was kind of surprised to see like he even like one in two plates i was like i don't think i could figure that out how to move that fast i'm trying to wrap my head around what you just said there in terms of like the one and two plates and not, cause maybe, maybe you did a lot of reps.

It would have slowed down, but like, I think you, I don't know, one and two plates. I think you could move that really fast. No, I could move it really fast,

but not as, not as fast as him. Yeah. Not nearly as fast as he can. I mean, he's able to almost put like, um, you know,

probably not 800 pounds, but he probably is putting like six or 700 pounds worth of strength into it. Okay. You know, and that might be the difference too because I'm, you know, not that strong at the moment when it comes to specifically like a deadlift. But I was just thinking like there's not another person in this room, I don't think, that could move the weight. Like even if we just had it hooked up to something that showed the force.

Yeah. And again, I understand he's stronger. like even if we just had it hooked up to something that showed the force yeah and again i understand he's stronger um but to me like what was the most interesting part of that and like how is his body able to do that because from what i know about lifting is that when you try to lift something really really fast and really really crazy um your body wants to slow down at least a little bit just to kind of protect itself so you're not kind of like overextending or hyperextending the joints and ligaments. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Like even no weight, there's not a lot of people on the planet that can move from like that sumo position to standing up.

Right. Like he's so quick. Like if I were to do it, I would go way over like Mark just said. I would be like not even half the speed that he does it with two plates. mark just said you know i would be like not even half the speed that he does it with two plates so i think that's kind of what mark's getting at because yeah it's almost like he just uh he's just like in a perfect groove right like if you're on a track yeah you just like floor it or something like you're never going to go off track he's kind of in that in that uh situation there and if we think about you know like part of the reason why i was able to do that is because they utilize the

dynamic effort method. And sometimes I think, I wish more people would be a little more open to the dynamic effort method and just view it and realize that it's just a form of practice. And I think maybe that would be a better way for people to look at it. But if you've been deadlifting for a few years and you feel like, or even a few months and you feel like you're pretty stuck, I think some dynamic effort deadlifting would be great for you. Maybe just start out with like five sets of two, cause that's pretty low and pretty modest amount of volume. Start out with about 50% of your max, just to see how that feels on week one. For speed work, correct?

Yeah. For speed work. Yep. And, and then kind then kind of see like you know over a period of time you know maybe maybe you're going to use 55 60 70 almost 70 percent maybe for uh the weights that you're you know the weights that are going to be optimal for you um but i think if you were to think about it this way if you were able to work your way into 10 sets of one it's like that's 10 sets of practice. It's 10 sets of practice at one rep, which is great for anybody, regardless of how you're trying to lift. I think when most people look at conjugate from the outside and they're like, oh, that's not specific enough, blah, blah, blah. But I think the goal, like it seems from what Jesse was saying, that the goal of utilizing dynamic effort work and the conjugate method is to plug up all the holes that may be seeping

so that when you do get to your specific sumo deadlift or conventional, you don't have weaknesses. Yeah, no, I agree with that. I agree. Yeah, you're hitting max effort work once a week. You're going as heavy as you can on a variation of a squat or a deadlift. With Jesse's system, they usually go two squats, you know, one squat one week,

another variation of a squat the next week, and then they go into deadlifts for two weeks and they kind of bounce, they bounce back and forth. The variations of the deadlift is where things get to be really interesting and things get to be kind of tricky because it's not even always a deadlift. You know, sometimes it's like a low box squat

with a safety squat bar and you're like, wait, I thought we were deadlifting. Yeah. You know, sometimes it's like a low box squat with a safety squat bar. And you're like, wait, I thought we were deadlifting. But if you were kind of thinking about, it's like, okay, we're trying to develop that push through the floor the same way we would, you know, with a, and if you do a pause box squat and you sit down there for a second, it kind of feels like a deadlift. And you come off the box the exact same way you would if you did a shit deadlift. Yeah. Or your butt kind

of comes up first and everything starts to fall apart i just think it's so cool how there's there's so many different ways of of gaining progress and gaining momentum and power lifting because a lot of times people that do conjugate west side type stuff they shit on people that do periodization and sometimes vice versa. But it's like, man, if you actually look at both systems and you're smart about it in both, in both programs or any program that you're trying to run, you always have to kind of start over. And I think periodization is really effective. And one thing I like that periodization does, and there, by the way, there is periodization in the Westside Barbell program. It's built in. Um, and also there's, um, you're going to prioritize as you get closer to a contest

and you're going to start doing things that look a little bit more like a competition lift as the contest, uh, gets closer and closer. You're not going to do a safety squat bar squat, um, you know, three and four weeks out from the meet necessarily you're probably going to be working on like an opener just like you probably would if you were doing periodization yeah that's some unbelievable speed we're watching some of this stuff on uh on youtube that was 585 right my god uh yeah that was the most he did that whatever however many plates but it was funny so i was you know monitoring the live stream and stuff and of course uh you know it's it's youtube live so it happens but all like what was what is your conventional and i'm like

he does more than everybody in this chat room conventional so it doesn't matter he did like what 780 something conventional or i don't know so i just ended up sending the other link of him and kaylor doing both conventional and sumo at the old st i remember the first time that i lifted with uh jeremy i i was um i was pretty strong at the time and i lifted with him and it was my first time that i met uh kyle kingsbury and kyle kingsbury has been was training with jesse burdick for uh quite some time around that time period oh sick and uh we got to like four plates and I think we might have had a band on there or something it was it was some pretty good weight and I moved it pretty quick and I was kind of like I'll see how this guy handles handles that weight you know like kind of like you know I put

some oomph into it and I I thought I did pretty good and then he went and i was like oh i'm like this is not this is not a competition like i and if it is i i'm i'm done you know like he's like this guy this guy's got me and then we went up and did like did a quarter and i think i still got like a double and uh the weight still felt pretty good and kyle just kind of shook his head he's like bell he's like you're not winning today man like he's like yeah he's like jeremy's just different and i was like i was like i i pretty much have noticed that already you know even like i mean people can see it in the video that's on the uh the sg channel but jeremy like he quite literally is built differently in terms of his rectors in his back every time i see him it's like i have

to touch him just because they like they they come out of his back so much it's crazy it's not no it's really not normal at all alien popping yes it's like he has a he has a baby on his back it's like another it's like another set of abs or yeah another belly on his backside yeah he's got back abs he really does my gosh but some people literally are really just built differently jeremy like elliott kipcho, that guy who just did the marathon. Michael Phelps, we were just talking about how long his torso is versus his short legs. And you mentioned his big feet and wide wingspan. Some people literally just are built differently.

They got some different shit going on that helps them be who they are. different shit going on that helps them be who they are um keenan robinson the uh the strength coach he was telling me that michael phelps in one of his races he just he couldn't see it all his glasses his goggles rather just filled up with water and then he you know he still won the race but he barely won it and he set a world record in that one right yeah i've seen that yeah he set a world record and they were like you know what like what, like, you know, kind of what happened at the end? Like, it looked like you were able to really, you know, push a little harder than even normal for you. And he was like, well, I couldn't see, you know. And so he's like, because I couldn't see, he's like, I panicked for about a stroke or two. And then I was like, oh, should I better make sure my stroke pace is down?

And he was just like, I've been swimming for so long. I was like, we got eight more strokes. That's all we need, you know. And so he's like, I better make sure my stroke pace is down. And he was just like, I've been swimming for so long. I was like, we got eight more strokes. That's all we need. And so he's like, I counted them out. And he's like, eighth one, boom, touched the wall. And that's one of those races where he just barely won by like a hundredth of a second or something crazy like that. And everybody was really mesmerized.

And he was like, I was just, he calmed himself down and he concentrated on himself. And then he was able to was just he calmed himself down and he concentrated on himself and then he was able to perform even to another level a guy who has like 22 or 24 uh gold medals that's insane savage yeah but yeah like him not being able to see was like uh ended up being ended up being a good thing because he ended up kind of focusing in on you know on uh his technique which is which is like it's always important i think um jason kalipa uh does a lot of this stuff too when he talks about the amrap mentality and really going

for it and pushing yourself really really hard on something jason's um weakness at one point was running he just wasn't great at running and so he his his say, you know, rather than concentrate on breathing, cause every time he concentrated on breathing, he felt out of breath and he would panic. And his coach was like, let's focus in on like your foot strikes. Like, are you striking with your heel every time? Should we be more on the ball of your foot? Um, you know, uh, how's your stride length? How's your, how's your's your how's your form how's your technique are your hands relaxed is your jaw relaxed and so jason's like sure enough when i'd get tired in a race jaw's tight and he's you know he's like tense tense and he's like running like he's like my arms

would wave back and forth sideways yeah yeah because it's like like he's running like mad and he's like then i'd relax my arms relax my shoulders and he's like he's running like mad. And he's like, then I'd relax my arms, relax my shoulders. And he's like, and rather than thinking about breathing, I was focusing on these other things. And that would help him make a lot of progress. He was moving way faster than he thought. Yeah. And then he also talks about like during whatever workout the CrossFit Games called for, he would in the past, he would think like, oh, my gosh, my legs are totally shot. Like they're not moving anymore he turned that mindset into like oh dude my legs are getting a sick

workout right now i can't wait to see how much bigger they get by the end of this yeah and so after he did that he would get like more fire up like well shit i want to make them grow even more and then he would just keep pushing even further so yeah the mindset thing was huge for him somebody on my instagram i posted up a picture of me in a burrito i'm sure you guys saw you guys were probably jelly was it from get to see that no it wasn't from guadalajara but it should have been yeah it should have been i'm upset i went somewhere else i can't remember even where it came from but anyway um i got a uh because we used like door dash or whatever i got a burrito and it was delicious it was amazing and i said something about it being you know a cheat meal and then uh someone was like hey

should we even call it a cheat meal anymore you know yeah and so i think um i think that's a good conversation to kind of have and jump into i i personally for myself i like calling it a cheat meal because and i understand the reasons why you wouldn't want to necessarily think it as a cheat because you don't want to think what you did was bad. You don't want to think like, man, I really let myself down. And then maybe you feel shitty about that and maybe it causes a cascade of shitty feelings about yourself and about your dedication to your diet. But for me, I can identify that for myself as bad food. That's not great for me, like I can identify that for myself as like bad food. Like that's, that's not, that's not great for me to do all that often. And I don't want to do it all that often. And it's, it is, it goes against, uh, a lot of like the things that I'm trying to do

and the discipline I'm trying to instill. But the reason to do it is to every once in a while, just enjoy it. And then also a cheat for me would even be just extra eating. So like even just extra food, I kind of consider that a cheat too. And I'm, I'm working on a process, you know, over a long period of time of trying to refine everything that I'm doing. So even when I'm eating, you know, on point and even when I'm eating the proper meals, if I go home and eat like a four-pound thing, if I eat four pounds of meat, I personally still consider that even a little bit of a cheat because it's not sticking to what I'm trying to do. What I'm trying to do is to eat for health, eat for longevity, eat to have a better physique, that kind of stuff. So I kind of put it all in this category of like, this is stuff that I don't want to be doing all the time or all that often. Yeah, no, I totally get what you're saying there. I honestly fully agree with you because,

you know, you're at a place and you're at a point in your diet where you can understand that you can do this and you can do it every now and then, and it's not going to actually throw you off of your goals. And you can call it a cheat without it, and it's not going to actually throw you off of your goals. And you can call it a cheat without it affecting your mindset. But some people are still in a place where if they have one meal like that, it's usually, it might not be planned, right? It might be like a spur of the moment or an urge type of thing. And then when they feel that they've cheated, it then messes with their head and it makes them feel all these negative thoughts about it. And then they start to spiral out of control because of the cheat, quote unquote. Right. Yeah. Because you always hear people like, oh, I messed up at lunch.

So I'm just going to the rest of the day is done now. Right. Like I'm going to keep cheating the rest of the day. And it's like, well, that's a silly thought. Exactly. But yeah, because like you can you have it controlled. And even myself, like this weekend, we went to San Jose, went to the winchester mystery house and we ate out right like all of this stuff was planned and in most cases people would call that a cheat but like yeah okay it was a cheat but like we know the effect it's going to have and it was something that's planned so i think that it really depends on who it is that's calling it a cheat can like are you do you know what you're doing? Like, are you planning this out? And are you aware that it's not going to have a big effect?

Or is this something that happens randomly and you're not in control of it? And in that case, then it's something that you need to, you know, you need to handle in terms of your diet and your lifestyle. Do they still do the step trick at Winchester Mystery House? So we went, this is the first time I've gone. And we did this thing called Unhinged. It's a night tour. Oh, nice. Yeah nice yeah so it's like it was actually extremely scary um but like yeah you you're in the house for about 50 minutes and you're going from room to room and they just scare the fuck out of you in every single room sounds terrible i was absolutely just like it messed it messed me up a little bit um but it was really fun anyway

from that but yeah like i think it depends on who's calling it a cheat you know that's that's why like i that's why i'm what i'm always like you know let's not call it a cheat just because there's so many people that i guess when they think about it it just affects them too much right they need to be able to look at it differently and handle it because there's no way. There is a way. There are some people we do know that stay away from this food forever, right? But most people, even when they get the handle on their diet, they're going to be having food like this every now and then.

And it'd be good if they don't think of it all the time as, I guess, being negative for them. I agree. I agree on that side of it too. And I think that if somebody is thinking about getting on a specific plan, I think it's healthy practice to not really think about being like on and off of a diet, period. It's a new thing for you to work on. And this statement sucks, but it's a new thing for you to work on. And it's this statement sucks, but it's a new thing for you to work on forever. Like if you're listening right now and you're 40 pounds overweight and you want to make a change, it's, you don't lose 40 pounds and then you're like, all right,

peace out. I'm not going to follow a plan anymore. There'll always be rules. Um, if you have gotten through life this long and you've been healthy and you haven't had to really follow any rules, it may be time that you'll have to start to follow at least some, but it's just kind of different for different people. You know, some people don't have to really pay a lot of attention to their food. It could be their metabolism, could be partially their genetics, and it could be that they just ingrained in them somewhere. They have some decent practices that haven't shown up on the scale or haven't shown up in any unhealthy ways. For myself, though, too, like, you know, and it's hard to even share a post like that because I don't want people to get the wrong idea, but I have said many times that, you know, while you're on your diet, while you're on your plan, um, you're going to have to have

room for stuff like this here and there. And, you know, even in my book, the Warren carbs, I don't talk about a cheat meal because I don't think that you should have a cheat meal every X amount of days. I think that you should just go and work on stringing together a couple of good days. When the cravings start to creep in, then you have to ask yourself a couple of questions. Are you eating enough calories? Cause maybe you're not eating enough calories. Are you getting enough sleep? Are you over-training? Like, so if you're, you know, if you're, uh, over-training and under eating underslept, you're going to have probably some really wild cravings going on.

You're going to really want to tackle some food. So it's not a great idea to have this every five-day thing where you're going to go off the rails. But if you can understand why you're going off the rails or why that's even happening to you, you can probably put together a lot more productive days than just three, four or five days. You could probably start to get like, that's the first time I've done anything like that. And probably, um, maybe like a few months now I've had a couple of drinks and I've had like a couple of small things off, but like on this day I had this and I had some ice cream. I mean, it's been a while since I really like, you know, done anything like that. And so I know for myself that, you know, I'm sleeping pretty good. I'm pretty well hydrated. There's a lot of other things in my life that are going pretty good

because I'm not sitting around thinking about these foods all the time. Yeah. And Seema, I don't know if you've ever worked with anybody, like literally that's like, maybe like a, like an aunt or something where a what like an aunt or like an uncle or just somebody who's like starting from like literally like day zero um how do you define like it's going to be a lifestyle because like i've heard that in the past and i've never really understood it until like i was literally doing it and i didn't understand what i was doing but like for somebody who maybe doesn't understand what I was doing. But like for somebody who maybe doesn't understand what that really means, how would you break that down for them? The first thing that I do if it's someone that doesn't have any experience, cause there's someone, someone I'm working with that literally doesn't have any experience. It's like you try to go through what their typical days look like

every single day. Like, and if they can't necessarily even define that, I'll just let them go through a week and have them really pay attention to what they're eating every single day and what they're doing. And then you start to kind of go from the top down. Okay. So we already talked about sleep a lot. So we're not even going to go into that because if you're not getting enough sleep, everything just is more difficult. doesn't, I guess they don't realize it or they don't necessarily keep track of it. You just try to figure out like, what are you consuming? Where are you consuming it from? Are you eating out most of the time? Do you have a lot of snacks in your house? And we just go through like that. You go through step-by-step taking out the snacks, implementing whole foods, going from there, not even tracking. Um, and I do make sure to let people know that it is going to be pretty damn hard because I think a lot of people have the assumption that this is going to be like, I, I would like it to be easy. But in most cases, it's not an easy thing to kind of switch somebody

into a totally different direction. If for a majority of their life, they've been doing one thing. It's not easy at all. So I try like I always let people know this is not easy. And you're going to it's going to suck for months. But it's literally trying to change bigger habits. So your question is a really big question, but if I look at it this way, I want to look and see what their daily habits are, get rid of one bad habit at a time. If I know if I try and change too many things, it's going to be too overwhelming and we're probably going to F up. So I'm going to try to help them get good sleep at first and then stop snacking on, on bad food. And then from there,

we'll start making better food choices slowly, but it starts from the top down. Cause if you don't get enough sleep, you don't make good choices. You know what I mean? No, that's perfect. Cause like the question spawns from like me telling somebody like, Oh, like it's just going to become a lifestyle. And it's like, Oh, well, what does that mean? I'm like, you just, that's just what you do now. Like you don't even think about it. That's just what you do. Okay. How do I get there? I don't know. I'm going to ask in SEMA. Exactly. You just mentioned it. Like it's a lifestyle because you have good lifestyle habits. And the thing is, is right now you have bad lifestyle habits. You have bad habits that you're doing without even thinking about it. So first off, we need to, we need to

like change these bad habits and put input, a good habit in the place of the bad one. That's what we have to do. It's not just saying you need to eat this and not that, or track this and whatever. It's literally changing the way a person lives if they have no experience. That's like the hardest type of person to transform because it's like you're not just changing their food and you're not just like giving them a workout program. You're not telling them the way you lived,

the way you live your life is not ideal. It's not good. We need to change what you do every single day if you want to be successful. And that's, that's tough. Yeah. Andrew, this is why you're so valuable on this podcast. Cause you're in a different place in your journey than, and Seema and I are. And like, this is an amazing question. And this is like an entire podcast really. I mean, we can go on for hours about this particular topic, but you know, some things that just came up while you got, you guys were talking like, why is it a lifestyle?

Um, it's because it interrupts every single thing that you've ever done before. And it's going to interrupt your relationship with your significant other. It's going to interrupt your relationship with your children. It's going to interrupt and disrupt the way that you, uh, perceive entertainment. Um, maybe you have favorite spots that you love to go. Your favorite spots that you love to go to are going to change. You're, you're not going to be pumped about Applebee's anymore. Maybe because maybe, you know, maybe you don't view that they have stuff that's healthy for your particular diet, um, on their menu. Maybe you start to learn about, you know, these, uh, seed oils and how dangerous they can be and so on. Right. Maybe you start to learn about, you know, these seed oils and how dangerous they

can be and so on. Right. Maybe you start to learn a lot and you're like, holy shit, like I got to really cut out a lot of stuff out of my lifestyle. So it's going to interrupt a lot of your relationships with your friends. I know some friends who've had to cut out alcohol and cutting out recreational alcohol is not really any different than getting away from your old buddies that used to shoot up heroin. It's that crazy because you're like, you know what? I don't want to do heroin anymore. So we're not even friends. Like, that's the only reason why you were friends is because you drank together.

And I don't have I'm not looking down on that in any way. I think that it's just a social thing. It's like, oh, this couple over here they like to drink we like to drink we're gonna get together and we're gonna get like hammered every weekend but as soon as one side maybe maybe it's in sema right and maybe he's like i got these goals with jujitsu like and i keep you know call hey we need to get together yeah yeah bro like well yeah right he doesn't want to like tell me like i'm not doing that shit no more. And I kind of get the picture. Okay. Well, you know, I got to find someone, a new drinking buddy. Right. Um, once you start to change your

goals, then everything else that you do is going to change and it's going to cause, I've talked before about kind of like a cascade of disciplines. Like one thing's going to beam down from another. And that's why I talk so much about a 10 minute walk and seem as 100 right about let's have let's give you like one thing you know dad mom aunt uncle yeah can can i get you to get outside a couple times a day like you live in florida you live in california you live in these nice areas can get you get outside a couple times a day and and walk for a few minutes. That would be great. Come back to them two weeks later.

I've been walking, and I know you suggested that I write down some of my foods. Here's what I've been doing. And you're like, wow, okay, your food actually isn't that messed up. It's not nearly as bad as I thought. If we have you fast for 12 hours or 14 hours every day, you have just maybe missed breakfast. We might be like onto something. It might be because at breakfast you're having a muffin every morning and you're having coffee with sugar. And if we just cut that out and we kept the walks and you feel good with the walks.

Yep. Okay. And so that's how it disrupts your lifestyle because it starts to really change. And so that's how it disrupts your lifestyle because it starts to really change. It starts to change everything all the way to the point where I've seen people break up over it. I've seen, you know, if you've been around a gym for a while and you've seen, you know, the woman or I mean, man or woman. But usually you see the woman get in really good shape. And then, you know, they're with the personal trainer or with somebody else in the gym because they changed so many aspects of their life. And, and that's not, uh, that same thing's not happening at home. They're not living that lifestyle. I've seen it so many times in the fitness industry,

going around the different, um, you know, going around to all the different shows. Sometimes you see somebody with someone different, uh, nearly every year it seems like. And it's because like their lifestyle had changed so drastically from what it used to be. But any anytime you watch TV, I mean, who doesn't watch some TV? I think just about everybody watches some TV. I know there's some people that don't enjoy TV, but for the most part, all Americans are watching some TV plopping down in front of their TV while they're eating. So what you're eating and just everything is going to change. And maybe even all the people that you follow on Instagram changes

because you don't want that feed coming through. Like I don't want to see these delicious foods coming through on my feed like that are tempting. Like I'm over it now. Like I'm in a good spot nowadays so it doesn't bother me. But starting out, like I would have never followed any of these like food chefs and stuff. That would have drove me nuts. Yeah.

Your wardrobe is obviously going to change once you start getting in shape. But then you start caring a little bit more about what you're wearing. Hey, how good does that feel? How good does it feel to go to a store and put something on and be like, damn, that actually looks pretty cool. Yep. When you're like not in good shape shape you don't have the arms that you want you don't have the body that you want you're like i should not buy that like that looked pretty cool on the rock but we'll have to just leave it right yeah no i mean right now like i i put out on my my instagram like like hey give me some shorts recommendations because like we've been going over and over with this Lululemon thing.

Oh, they got the 3.5s now. Oh, wait, no, 3 inches. 3 inches. Yeah. You mean like they're up? Yep. That 1% Congo's about to hang out. They're banned in the Congolese.

Oh, my God. Why? I guess runners. runners no runners wear shorts like that yeah okay they're short and they're uh like they have the slit on the side too so they get even higher who's probably making these clothes right it's probably women right like the women are probably the designers of these clothes right they're like we need to get dudes in shorter shorts you know it's just funny because like yeah going to be like, let's see what they can fall for. We're going to make these three inchers. Let's see who falls for it.

I look at all my shorts and they're all really big and baggy because that's what I'm used to wearing. If it was up to me, I'd still be dressing like I did in junior high. Basketball shorts. Exactly. Non-stop. But now I'm like, well, shit, man. Got a little bit of quad development here. I don't want

to wear these baggy ass shorts anymore so i've been looking for a legit pair of shorts i saw the quads popping out the other day i don't remember what exercise we were doing maybe some leg press yeah but there was some shape going on there yeah so i'm like i'm not trying to wear baggy clothes anymore yeah that was that part of me is kind of dying to see you wearing shorts like we were now like no i feel the same way because back in high school, I was all about like the baggy shorts and stuff. And now like my shorts are, you can see my butt cheeks. I can. I can see them from here.

I could see your temperature from here. Now I can't concentrate. Coming back down to earth. Hold on a second. You know who's got some crazy legs that wears baggy shorts is john cena oh yeah he always wears big baggy jorts yeah jean shorts he's so damn cool though yeah that's the thing like he's yeah he's he's a hip-hop guy he's the worst dude he's super he's super jacked he's he's got the build that like just about everybody wants and he's wearing

like he speaks chinese and then he he's wearing a 3X shirt. But he's still out angling everybody. Still huge. The track with him and Merce is so good. Oh yeah, that was great. I love that song. Oh yeah, that was the video you sent me. Yeah, it came out of nowhere and then he killed that.

He's really smart. You guys know how he got the rapping gig? How he got that down? No. So I used to work with him at a place called Sharky's in Hermosa Beach. Back when he had no money and he was eating expired protein, he worked at a supplement store as well. He worked at a supplement store, the one that was in front of, well, it wasn't in front of Gold's Gym. It was inside of Gold's Gym.

It was Gold's Gym's supplement store. He worked there for a while, and then he also worked at Sharky's. And then we also worked together moving fitness equipment because, um, you know, when you're a loser, you need to get as many jobs as possible to try to build up as much, as much funds as you can.

So we all kind of worked at, at all these different spots, but John, um, at Sharky's right next to Sharky's was a place called Zeppi's pizza. And Zeppi's had a thing there that if you could eat their pizza that you can get a like a voucher for a free one you they give you like a gift card and you can get a free one so John would go there because he didn't have any money and he would he would eat he would eat a pizza and then he would bring

his thing up to the register and he would like get his money back because you could do it that way too but he would eat it was like man I can't even remember how many slices i'm going to exaggerate but i think it might have been like about 12 slices but it was chicago deep dish pizza so they're they're massive you know is that why they would give it back to you if you actually finished it yeah yeah yeah because no one would ever do it and they had they had people's pans on the wall they had they had your name they put your name on a pan they put up on the wall and so john's name was there and then you know john would come in and he would he started doing it almost every night every night that we worked

and you could see like john cena and it said you know like 111 you know 02 or whatever whatever the year was you know and then one twelve oh two you know and then one and the owner like probably wasn't there all the time there's a picture of john look at the size of those pipes right there but um so the owner the owner tells him he's like kid he's like i know what's going on here he's like you don't have to eat a whole pizza every time he's like anytime you want to come in for a couple slices you know they're on me but uh he used to john used to rap too like even just at the bar he would just like i don't know he just he would just start saying stuff that kind of like just rhymed together wasn't really like rapping um i was like i didn't know you can rap he's like yeah and then he would

like turn his hat backwards and like start you know getting way into it and i was like fuck like not not only can he like you know put some shit together he knows how to like actually rap and then like i never you know didn't have it didn't really think much of it for years and then as he was pushing forward in wwe they did a skit on wwe and you can pull this up he dresses up as vanilla ice um but before i think they even did the skit he was like rapping like on somebody like in the back like they're just messing around and uh jim ross who was one of the kind of big wigs at wwe at the time was like holy shit like i didn't like everyone's like laughing but he but the jim ross was like no no no he like yeah this is funny what he's saying is funny he's like but

he can rap you know and then so they started having him uh do like a rap gimmick pretty much from this point on it gave him a huge opportunity i don't know if you can bring up some of the audio he actually got i mean he did it for years i don't know how the hell he did it he actually has good flow too like yeah She was back here fast. I got to go. It's been a blast. Came out the locker room, stole Ray Mysterio's mask. He actually has good flow, too. Yeah. She's crazy. I know.

I love when he used to come out with the different jerseys. I don't know if you guys remember. He used to have the different basketball and football jerseys of whatever town he was in. Dang. He's shredded back then, too. He's just ridiculous. He's permanently jacked. He's never going to lose it. Yep. That's insane.

What is that wig, though? I'm confused. His hair looks great. I don't think it's a wig. Save your girl a lot of hair, too a It's like an Ace Ventura vibe That's the thing Neither of you guys have lost your hairline Holding it up

We're not on as much shit as you are Natty Professor Did you see Bedros called you Natty Professor? I saw that That was amazing. That's because of you. He asked later, he's like, he's like Natty Professor. I said, yeah, yeah.

Like natural. Oh, he's like, oh, he's like, I like that. He's like Natty Professor. Oh, man. Some people probably think that shit's a pun by now. They're like, ah, ah i see that's funny kid fuck imagine if he actually was natural that would be great that's what makes it funny yeah oh lord i am peeps just you can't remind you y'all you can't you can't defend it you can't say anything

i'm just i'm just saying these people probably think i'm saying this as a joke at this point but it's kind of getting aggressive don't you think andrew bad shot in zuma wow this is this is must be right rage i mean i have not seen this side of you before i am shocked is he natty is he not natty we need a whole podcast on it we'll just interview everybody what do you think andrew i would love to what do you think though i'm curious andrew yes or no me yeah i'm terrible with this stuff okay yeah so when i when i did ask around i i so he's done some investigating no well not necessarily investigating like asking around it's just when when the the topic has come

up yes i'm just like but there's like pictures of him like at 16 and he just he looks insane and then of course the answer is like well he's been doing it a long time like he's been on shit for many years and then there is the the shock when you you know come into this realm and you understand like like oh that person okay like oh that person too like oh wow yeah pretty much anybody that has like uh anything to do with like fitness like money wise you know it's like okay so now it's more of a shock when it's like oh really like you're natural like so that that's yeah and then you know now with all this maybe i would have paid more attention to the you know previous past i remember talking to other people like you know about just being natural or not you know like when someone's you know naturally

you try to figure it out right and i've asked people before i'm like do you honestly think that your genetics are like off the charts? Cause like, I have a lot of friends who are like, they think everyone's on shit all the time. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like,

I'm like, I, I understand, you know, I understand what you're getting at, but not everyone that sets a world record in the IPF. It's, it's highly unlikely that they're all beating the system.

Right. Cause why even have a system? It's not the IPF system. They use someone else's system. So like, why would this be like rigged you know if it if it is rigged when what and and is it even possible for all these people to be you know on shit and i don't i don't think that it is and one thing i was just pointing out i was like look at your mom and look at your dad and look at your grandma and look at your grandpa and look at your grandpa and kind of like, look where you came from. Like, do you feel that your genetics are that much superior? And I think a lot of people have a lot of pride with like their background and like where they came from.

And so they always want to think like really highly, but if my dad's five, two, you know, and my, or five, four, and my grandpa was like five, two five two genetically like not that i don't have any genetics because i certainly have great genetics because when i first picked up a barbell i was pretty i was pretty strong and you got big yeah and i got big and my and my mom even like the first time she ever like benched with us i think she i think we had her maybe she benched a couple times she benched like 135 or something like you know so really there's some yeah there's some good there's some good genes in there but i don't have this delusion that i think uh my genes are super optimal for me to be like really lean go back and look at like sean roden when he was a kid

you know he just posted a picture the other day of him he he looks like he's 12 and he's like in like bodybuilding posing trunks and he looks awesome he's jacked really or look at o'hearn when o'hearn was a kid whether you think o'hearn's on stuff now or whatever he obviously has a set of genetics that are that are set up really really well for some reason some people are able to tap into and display certain things that are just above and beyond you know what we originally thought i remember oh my god yeah how look at his legs how old is he i don't think it's either way like he's definitely he's definitely younger there like very young it doesn't say but i mean based on the haircut that was a while ago yeah yeah that's crazy i don't know it's just i it's it's baffling to me that everyone just always assumes everyone's

everyone's on stuff especially without really kind of thinking about it more i don't think you're on stuff i've always been i've always been a believer i appreciate that i appreciate that not not many of us out there we're all hanging. We're all hanging on by a thread. I just think based off of what you said about if you're super strong squat, super strong deadlift and bench, there's a good chance that you're on something. And then a good indicator is if one of those is very much lacking compared to the other ones. Not saying that your bench is terrible, but in comparison to the other ones right not saying that your bench is terrible but in comparison to your other lifts so that's like the last thing that i'm hanging on to when anybody like wants

to argue that's low but you know let's change let's change this to somebody else because there's this there's this one guy who you all know all the pressure off of me no no no no no but but seriously russ swole russell russell or he squat, strong bench, strong deadlift. The dude is literally... Wrong Russ Swole. Wow. Pulled up some little chunky kid. It's two S's, Andrew.

No, not Russ, the rapper. R-U-S-S-W-O-L-E. Russ Swole. Russ Swole, third person. R-U-S-S-W-O-L-E. Russ Swole. Russ Swole, third person. I thought I clicked on him. Yeah. Now this dude. So does he compete in the IPF and stuff like that?

He's the top 83 right now, man. Oh! He's the top 83 right now. Yeah. Man, he's been killing it. And now. What is that? His deadlift is at like seven.

I think he just pulled like 735 or something conventional. Remember, he's an 83 kilogram. So he's like 180 something. His bench is somewhere in the mid fours. I think he just squatted like 650 for a triple. He is his only competition because no one. What are those hamstrings? That's what I'm saying.

Yeah. No one is coming for this dude at this point. He is beating himself please tell me he's like himself tell me he's like four feet tall then he's probably like five seven he's like five seven look at those calves but like russ like i know i know i know he's natural i know yeah he played um football at the university of texas or something is longhorns or something like that but yeah man r Russ is a, he's another level dude.

Like he actually came up cause when I was looking for shorts, the company that he wears, I was like, Hmm, those look pretty cool. But that's Russell. They will not fit me. Yeah.

Yeah. Russ is man. He's, he's going to kill it. I can't wait for it. I can't wait to see him compete cause he's going to kill it. And just as opposed to training, he's always just such a happy dude. He always optimistic he's just he's such an awesome dude

he's always chewing on that chain too yeah he's got crazy he's got really good form with big ass weights too you got to appreciate that because that just takes a lot of time yeah man you know i think um you know if i'm if i'm thinking about like my my own progression over the years, as soon as I knew, as soon as I started to learn about nutrition, I started to get in better shape. And it probably wasn't that long after I learned about that that I had abs. And it wasn't that long. I mean, I was like 205. And at a very young age, I was deadlifting 600 pounds. young age i was dead lifting you know 600 pounds um i dead lifted uh 600 pounds competing at 198 in a meet a million years ago yeah because that's the last time i weighed that that uh that kind of

weight um and so it's like i believe that all kinds of things are possible you know i i i just think it's easy just to be like oh yeah that guy's guy's, you know, he's on stuff. But if I think back and I start to think about, but what if I, what if ever, what if from the beginning I was lined up pretty good and what if I didn't have to figure it out on my own? You know, my brother squatted 675 at like 19 in a single ply squat suit, um,

weighing 220, you know? So like there's, you know, there's some good, there's some good strength, uh, you know, in like there's, you know, there's some good, there's some good strength, uh, you know, in our, in our natural genes, even, uh, even minus, you know, the stuff I've, I decided to do later on, but it is, it is really hard to tell. And I think people, um,

there's no, there's no reason to try to use it for yourself to an advantage one way or the other. There's no reason for you to be like, eh, he shit if the guy is on stuff um he's still ahead he whether he's not on stuff or on stuff he's still way the fuck ahead of wherever you're trying to get to yeah and you should hone in on your own skill and try to get better we have a guest coming this week that's going to be very fun because this topic stuff oh yeah ko ko kenny ko kenny ko that'll be fun this will be uh this will be fun i remember i i asked my dad i'm like hey when you were younger like did you have abs like yeah they have all my uncles like all of them like cool i've never had abs. Oh, man.

Well, I mean, did you ask him about his lifestyle, too? Like, I mean, you know your dad's lifestyle. Was he on his feet? Was he always sitting? What was the deal? He thinks, like, donuts and Pepsi is, like, a good diet. I mean, growing up, they didn't have much money, so it was just like beans and like, that's pretty much it. So they were, maybe they're just on the skinny side, but for the most part, like, no, he has no idea about nutrition diet or anything like that.

You could have abs in three months. You really could. Pretty good abs in three months. Like, I'm not just talking about like a little top two layer deal. That's not, that's not really abs. You can have pretty good abs in three months. It's just like right now, dude, for you, it's just not your goal, right? You're trying to gain muscle and you're not trying to get super lean.

But honestly, like if you wanted to get lean, literally, Mark would tell you what to do. You'd drop 20 pounds or whatever and you'd have a six pack straight up. But you don't want to be that light right now. Yeah, and if you took your time too, you could lose like eight pounds. You know what I mean? And still hold a pretty good amount and have something there, have some abs. But I think, I mean, there are people that have gained so much weight and have gotten so far away that it might be hard for them to obtain abs. But I think with the exception of that, I think just about anyone.

I mean, who would have thought my brother would be able to have abs? I mean, his transformation is retarded. It doesn't make any sense at this point. about anyone i mean who would have thought my brother would be able to have abs i mean his his transformation is retarded it doesn't make any sense at this point you're just like well he he continues to tighten up and it's like sometimes just time uh not not just time obviously he's paying attention to what he's doing um very meticulously but just time because he mentioned i think he posted the other day it was the same weight right today i think so posted today is the same body weight as he was like a year ago he mentioned that to me a while back he's way leaner but yeah watch this this is fucking wild i mean he looks great in the previous post but he looks amazing now it's yeah and let me ask you this was chris

whoa yeah so for him on the left i realized that that's not like him on the left is not like a body that people are striving for. But him on the left is an amazing transformation already from where he was. And he looks pretty good there. He's starting to get some good chest, pec development, stomach starting to tighten up. Beard. He's got a little bit of uh a little bit of a belly right yeah and then in the second picture you know obviously the abs have tightened up a lot a lot of that skin um has gone away and look at the arms yeah development through the arms and the beard the beard is

amazing by the way let me ask you this wasn't like didn't chris like always work out to some extent like did he ever stop working out was there a period or he never stopped he never stopped uh exercising he's always no matter how many pills or how much beer or anything like that he got into um he basically lifted the end he lifted his way through it the entire time he's always been he's always had some form of uh exercise in there but like he's the ultimate case like i used to talk to him all the time and at the time i didn't really realize alcohol was such an issue for him i knew that he would drink here and there but i didn't really know the extent of it and we would have conversations all the time i was always thinking in my head i'm like why

why does he go through these cycles like this like what is he doing like why you know he's telling me like i'm going to the gym you know tomorrow and i'm gonna do like an hour of cardio and we would talk about training and i'm like dude there's absolutely no reason for you to do an hour of cardio unless you have some specific goal in mind that you're trying to do something by a certain time i'm like otherwise i'm like that hour could be spent doing something more productive you know and and so like, I didn't really realize he was self-sabotaging himself with alcohol and poor food choices. And then he was trying to work it off kind of like, uh, Nick Wright was talking about,

but Nick was talking mainly about food. And my brother was kind of doing the same thing. Do it over and over again. He was like a cardio bunny. He wanted to like, he wanted to do it. He wanted to lose weight through hard work and through, know he saw o'hearn doing a lot of cardio so he thought that that would be you know advantageous for him to do it i'm like dude you just need to get your food straight like let's be consistent with the food we don't have to worry about this cardio as much yeah it's crazy though like because i like last year i don't know if he was well he was carnivore last year too he was heading into it but that diet made a big difference for him. Yeah.

Like he's talking about what he eats day to day now. And like, I'm just curious what his day to day does look like outside of the food. Cause I know that there's other changes that he probably made. It's allowed him to do all of this. It's pretty crazy. I wish I had him back on the podcast to try to focus in on this kind of one topic because it is, it is awesome. And you know, he, I'm with him all the time he just he just is

eating meat you know he's and um he switches it up enough i know some people say they get tired of it but he's going to like mcdonald's he's going to wendy's he's hitting up in and out burger he's cooking some stuff at home he's yeah that's what i was gonna say so like his his cheat now and we were just talking about cheats is just getting getting more meat at McDonald's or something. Right. McDonald's meat. Yeah. And he's like, I find it to be better than In-N-Out and Five Guys now.

Yeah. I think it's just because it's just different. But he says he likes it better. He and I went to McDonald's and we got like Big Mac, no bread. And it was rocking. It was really good. It was really good it was really good yeah and then i did check uh snopes and the 100 beef is apparently real okay can you tell me about that

again so the uh like um urban legend or whatever was that the company that they used that mcdonald's uses was called 100 beef so they can say oh our meat is made with 100 beef wow but i guess snopes did a thing and find out that it uh come to find out that it actually is 100 beef but i don't understand about like the fillers and all that so i i i don't know exactly still what's in it but it's a cheat right yeah yeah it's not mc's in it, but it's a cheat, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's not McDonald's every day.

It's a cheat. Yeah. Oh man. All right. As you can see, we can talk forever and we should probably shut up. Where can people find it? Andrew,

you guys can hit me up on Instagram at I am Andrew Z. Ask about that Congo-ness. That one person, the new one percenters. We didn't really even explain what we were talking about. Congo-ness. That one person, the new one percenters. We didn't really even explain what we were talking about. It's okay. We'll leave it to lore. Imagination.

Yes. Where can people find you, Mr. Natty Professor? I haven't seen my yang. N-S-I-M-A-I-N-Y-A-N-G on Instagram and YouTubes. I can't believe your parents named you Natty Professor. Me neither, man.

It's a weird name because, I mean, how'd they know? How'd they know it was going to cause so much controversy? I think it was just one of those things. You can find me at Mark Smellybell on Instagram. Strength is never weakness. Weakness is never strength. Catch you all later.