Mark Bell's Power Project - EP. 461 - End Of The Year Show
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Today, we're fired up and excited to talk about the year that passed and everything
that kind of went down.
I think it was 2020, right?
Was it 2020?
I lost track for a second.
I was going to say 2019.
It's 2020's fault.
2020's fault.
Lost track for a second.
I was going to say 2019.
It's 2020's fault.
2020's fault.
But just to rattle off just a few names that we had on the show, we had Mike Tyson, Donald Trump, Michael Jordan, Muhammad Ali, and Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage, and what was that?
Dwayne?
Yeah, Dwayne.
You were calling him Dewey.
Do you know him differently than I do?
You're like, yo, what's up, Dewey?
Yeah, it's like Dewey Benson or something.
Yeah.
Dewey Jensen.
Dwayne.
Dwayne Jensen.
It was Dwayne Jensen.
I remember the main problem with that guy is he was trying to say that he was better looking than you.
And we were like, dude, get out of here.
There's no way.
He's not even close.
Dude, come on.
Not me.
He's not even nearly as big as me.
So what?
He's six, five, two, eight.
I mean, what kind of last name is Jensen?
What are women even seeing him anyway?
I don't know.
Plays the guitar.
He can sing.
He can fucking dance.
Weirdo.
Hung like a horse.
I mean, anyway, the people that we did have on the show we had an amazing conversation
with daryl davis uh kind of when a lot of the uh talk of systemic racism started to
uh really circulate i thought i really thought that was really impactful we had chris duffin
mike isratel um and just had a, a great, um, range of guests.
You know, we went to the Arnold, we kind of said F it and went to the Arnold, even though
COVID was going on, maybe not the smartest choice, but that's what we decided to do.
And we got to, uh, talk to the world's strongest gay along with, uh, Eddie Hall and, uh, just
a really wide range of interesting and awesome people.
Another point in the year, we talked with like Evan Carmichael,
and we're just going to kind of dive into some of our favorites.
Attila's Gym, that was huge.
Those are the guys that are getting hit with that fine every single day.
In New Jersey, that just said, screw it, and they're just going to forge forward.
And we learned a lot, you know, over the course of this year.
For me, around this time last year, I got sick.
And looking back at it, I can't help but think it was COVID.
But I think anybody that has any sort of illness just automatically thinks it's COVID.
So I don't really know what the hell I had.
But that was the start for me of World Carnivore Month as well.
It's like the very end of December.
I decided to do the carnivore month maybe a little early on like the 28th.
And you ran it through January
and then I filmed every day in January
to try to get
people interested. And then once
January was over, I did the carnivore
thing for 100 days. And that was a giant
pain in the ass, but it's still on my YouTube channel.
So you want to check it out. It's
Mark Smelly Bell. All the stuff,
all the information's there.
You get to see how I ate and how I did it.
I used a lot of fasting and anyway, it's all there.
If you need to check that out.
That's how my year started.
Yeah.
I remember after that or before that, it was like December or whatever.
You're like, I think we'll keep this carnivore going thing going for a while, you know, or just straight carnivore going.
And it was pretty crazy because you did that for a long time.
I remember I was just super impressed with you filming every single day.
Yeah.
Editing on your iPhone and stuff.
Oh man.
That was, that part was hard.
That is such a pain in the balls to do.
I will have to say though, it changed me.
Like that was, that was really pivotal.
Like I don't, I didn't get in like the most amazing shape from that because I, I just,
the most amazing shape from that because i i just i wasn't um i wasn't really really trying to tighten up the amount of fat i was eating at all because i didn't want to be like hungry
and so i was eating bacon and sausage and uh eggs and very i was going out of my way to eat fatty
meats to try to keep weight on but uh this time you you know, now, now we're at this time a year later
and I'm in way better shape than I was last year.
So sometimes you look back at decisions that you make or choices that you make.
And for me, that was big because now I just have a new, a new found discipline, a new
found just, I guess, form of like willpower.
And that's what we're trying to teach.
And that's what we're trying to promote here at the power project is we're trying to get
you guys through our own experiences and through the experiences of the people that we bring in.
We're hoping that you guys will start to develop a strong willpower that you can lean on and that eventually makes everything easier, makes everything that you do easier at some point.
At first, it's going to be difficult.
It'll be uncomfortable.
But at some point, you'll be able to just kind of roll with it yeah i think in terms of one of the bigger
nutrition podcasts that i really dug mike israel and i think it was the first time we talked to him
it's uh i think my reaction to uh i told him that i did a lot of training fasted and he told me like
he i think he gave me his opinion in terms Oh, if you could train a little bit harder with food in your stomach, what would be better?
I still like, I understood it and I got it, but I guess it didn't make much of a difference,
but it was, it was good to, it was good to know. It was good to know. There's a lot of stuff on
that podcast that I think a lot of people can get from, especially if you follow one type of diet.
I think Mike is this kind of person who,
and we mention it all the time,
try a lot of different types of diet,
try a lot of different types of things
and kind of see what works.
But a lot of things at the end of the day
will work if you do it long enough.
I say that you guys roll about it, you know?
You do jitsu about it.
I think that's what you should do.
You guys should set up a match.
You can decide.
You do yours fasted, and he does with food and we
that's actually a pretty good good test there let's go mike that's not a test though why not
oh i get it it's not a test um ouch so he's what not on your level no that's not what i said i
thought that's what you meant like it's not a test because i'll just walk right through him but
that's the thing it's like that the factor there the factor there wouldn't be uh nutrition i would try right you know the
factor there would be nutrition the factor there would just be jujitsu yeah but um yeah oh yeah
and i had that match with chad early that year i totally forgot about that until you mentioned
that earlier but that was fun great experience that was down in los angeles right down in uh
yeah it was like SoCal.
I forgot where in SoCal.
Maybe Orange County area or something.
I think so.
Chad's backyard trying to set it up, you know, trying to.
I suck at geography.
But yeah, that was really dope.
That was the only competition I was able to do this year, though, because things shut down after that.
But it was cool.
But right before that, if you guys remember, we had a little L.A. trip.
And it was so dope that we podcasted from Stone Cold Steve Austin's house.
Oh, man.
Or his studio, I should say.
Yeah.
That was sick.
That studio's really nice.
It was really nice.
We do have to mention that Encima won against Chad Wesley Smith.
Oh, yeah.
Sorry.
Just in case anybody missed it.
Don't get it twisted.
But, yeah, we had a great time with Stone Cold.
He's the man.
He's so much fun.
Mm-hmm.
He's intense. It's so fun. Like, you know, he was looking at some of the equipment I was Cold. He's the man. He's so much fun. He's intense.
It's so fun.
Like, you know, he was looking at some of the equipment I was using.
He's like, what's this for?
Why do you use that?
And then he's like, oh, and he takes a picture and you can see he's like writing notes or
something.
So I'm like, damn, he's Stone Cold.
He doesn't have to learn any of this shit, but he still is taking the time.
And his hands are so big.
He's just, yeah, he's a big, big guy.
That's one thing that shocked me when I shook his hand.
I was like, fuck.
Yeah. It's a big, big guy. That's one thing that shocked me when I shook his hand. I was like, fuck. Yeah.
It's like big.
Yeah.
But unfortunately, during that trip is when we found out about Kobe Bryant.
That was tough, man.
Everyone in LA, no matter where we were, like as soon as we heard that, you know, Mark will tell you exactly the experience of how we heard about it.
But as soon as we heard about it it just leaving the hotel room that day
in the elevator the first person we see head down just shakes his head and looks up and he says
kobe man i was like whoa dude and we were in la right and like i don't know like a block away
from staples yeah and it dude it was crazy that was was fucking nuts. Yeah, people were pretty, like, flattened. Yeah.
Like, just knocked the wind out of everybody.
And, yeah, it was just a crazy thing.
And then, you know, to learn kind of how he died and who he died with.
He died with some family members and some friends and stuff.
And it just all sounds so terrible.
And I think the person that they brought with them, like, they didn't normally ride the, but it was like maybe like a birthday situation. So, Hey, come with us,
you know, like trying to, you know, have it be this like treat or whatever. And then, uh,
unfortunately the helicopter crashes and, and that's that. But that's the first time I remember
hearing about anybody dying, um, other than a family member to where it felt like I got punched
in the stomach, you know? And I don't even know why, because I really like, I do like basketball.
I did like Kobe Bryant, but I'm not really a huge basketball fan, nor was I ever really
a huge Kobe fan.
I admired the way that he played and the mindset that he had.
I love that.
And maybe that's part of it.
Maybe that's a big part of it for a lot of people is he just, he was kind of on the court,
like a cold blooded killer.
And I think that's,
people were like,
you know what,
if you're going to go in and you're going to,
you know,
you're going to go in all the way.
That's not a bad way to do it.
Yeah.
There's a video series on YouTube that one of like someone who really likes
Kobe made,
and it's been out for like four or five years now,
but it's like the mindset of Kobe Bryant.
And then there's a video on like challenge, a video on a video on competitive like i don't know if you've seen
though dude those are those are amazing the mamba mentality right yeah yeah yeah but like they like
they took clips from all these different videos of kobe and put them together and they were just
those those are amazing i think uh also during that trip I think we had a chance to sit down with Sean Baker and
Paul Saladino.
And we talked a lot about, because I think World Carnivore Month is always something
relevant to us.
So we talked to them about that, but we talked to them a lot about cholesterol because there's
so many questions about, hey, is my cholesterol?
So I think that stuff is on, I forget where it's at, but it's all over. Yeah, it's all over the place. But anyway, that might be something that some of you might want to look up because it is World Carnivore Month coming up and you might want information on the whole cholesterol debate. things, saturated fat or just fat in general can become body fat very easily.
And fat can be dangerous, but it's usually in the presence of excess calories and maybe
even the presence of insulin, eating excessive amounts of carbohydrates.
So that's why a lot of times people will talk about that carbohydrate and fat combination.
And again, there's nothing wrong with fat and carbohydrates together necessarily, but
they tend to want to make you overeat.
A really easy example is if you had some rice and you were to eat, you know, or I said,
hey, I want to see you eat three, you know, three cups of rice.
You might get through two cups.
You might be like, oh, man, wow, slowing down quite a bit. But what if through two cups. It might be like, Oh man, wow.
Slowing down quite a bit.
But what if it had butter on it?
Oh God.
Yeah.
Right.
I mean,
you just get a straw and be like,
yeah.
How much more rice you want me to eat?
Exactly.
Hey,
but since we're on the topic,
cholesterol,
there is,
I feel like if you want a real cholesterol master class from what we've
done um there's that there's dave feldman and the author of the cholesterol myth johnny boden
johnny boden that was a good episode i sent that episode to a lot of people yeah i said that's a
lot of people so and i think that episode actually with johnny boden would be the episode that is the
easiest to understand in terms of the mechanism mechanisms cholesterol. He made it very simple to understand.
He had a lot of anecdotal stuff that he experienced through helping other people.
I love this background, too.
I love that he had a lot of his own things to overcome.
I love hearing about that.
And then just so interesting on how people land in these certain things.
It's like, how does Dave Feldman, who is kind of like the cholesterol king in some sense,
how does he end up doing what he's doing when he before he was an engineer?
Ivor Cummins, same thing.
He was an engineer.
People with these unconventional backgrounds, it just goes to show you that what we talk
about here all the time, who you were yesterday, you don't have to be married to until the day you die.
You know who you were yesterday.
You can change, you can change that.
It's going to take time.
It's going to be slow incremental progress.
Just like you have in the gym.
You want to change your body.
You want to change your strength.
You want to go from a three 15 deadlift to a four or five deadlift.
For most people,
it's going to take some time to add that amount of weight
to your deadlift.
Every once in a while, you run into some mutants and they can gain a little quicker, but their
next gains will come slow anyway.
So it doesn't matter who you are.
It's just, even from a genetic standpoint, you will run into a brick wall.
And for every once in a while, there's like a Kaler Wollum that's around and they don't
really run into much of anything until they get to like 800 pounds or something like that then the progress finally slows down but
anyway the point is is that you know you can make a lot of changes and um where you are at 20 or
where you are at 30 or where you are at 40 doesn't have to be where you are when you're 50 doesn't
have to be where you are when you're 60 you You could have been addicted to drugs from the time you were 15, if you could survive it, to the time you're 40.
And you can one day make a decision and say, you know what?
I think Grant Cardone, another great guest that we had on the show this year, Grant Cardone was like that.
I don't know if it started that early, but he had many years where he'll tell you he was just a loser.
He couldn't figure out how to scrape two nickels together.
He couldn't figure out anything for himself.
He was selfish and self-absorbed.
And well, I shouldn't even say that, but like that, that's what I've heard him say about himself.
But he was addicted to drugs, which kind of puts you in that category because you can't think straight.
But like,
what an awesome story that is.
Grant Cardone's like a,
he's big time when it comes to like real estate and when it comes to being an
entrepreneur,
making money,
teaching other people how to make money.
And yeah,
we've had a lot of amazing guests on,
but it's just like time and time again,
we see as people have these struggles or have these certain situations and they come out the other end and they're so powerful i'm like damn
that was a cool every time the show's over we're like damn like that's all we can kind of say
because we're just like kind of baffled about how awesome some of these people have been yeah do you
guys remember the steakhouse after the uh interview with sean baker and paul saladino that place was incredible
and he almost puked i did i didn't know i you know what before i say yeah careful
what i was going to say was i didn't know i could eat so much meat in the context of brazilian
steakhouse don't get immature with that listeners okay that's just all right just filled you up with all that meat he was choking choking it
all that meat red meat oh my gosh but hey real quick uh andrew huberman was also he was one of
those individuals where like he is a world-renowned like neuroscientist now but when he talked about
his youth being like a rebel skateboarder and not like having almost no interest in anything like
that that's so funny i think that was really cool because like the the complexity of his work and the depth at which
he's gotten into that work at this point doesn't reflect who he was as a teenager and young adult
which means that at any point honestly if you have an interest in something you can really
make a shift in in terms of your focus give yourself the time you need and you can you can
pursue it you can really pursue it and i think that was really cool to hear that from him yeah one of my favorite things about having andrew
huberman on was he went on like i think a week or two later on to joe rogan yeah you know and it's
so cool because like if you go read through some of those comments on that video which is still
very popular um sorry that episode a lot of people like, we really like the way you guys interviewed him with the questions that you asked.
And I just, exactly right.
Like, that's just cool to, it's cool to read that.
That episode gained a lot of traction because of Joe Rogan.
Not going to front and act like that wasn't part of it.
But people still appreciated our version of that interview.
Don't listen to Joe Rogan.
Oh, God.
Joe Rogan has just a totally different style of show, you know, where he will.
If you notice, he kind of we usually talk to people about.
Most of the time we talk to people about like subject matter in their field.
Yeah.
Like, OK, you're a chiropractor.
Let's talk to you about chiropractic and what's the deal with it.
Rogan might have, I mean, he hates chiropractic, but if he was to have a chiropractor on there,
if he was to have someone like we've had on the show, like Dr.
Bo Hightower, he would talk to him about probably everything else other than chiropractic, you
know, and he would talk to him about space and aliens and they would get around to mentioning some chiropractic.
Our show kind of veers off that way, but that's kind of Joe Rogan's style and his show.
He wants to like, he also is really into hearing like shit that just hasn't circulated yet.
If you notice, like people save stuff for Rogan, they save stuff for his show.
Like they might come on his show like they might come
on our show and they might say something and then they're like well you know there's a study and
they drop like a bomb on everybody uh with this information rogan loves studies yeah he loves all
that stuff so he just has a totally different style of show that's a cool way i never even
paid attention to stuff like that but that's absolutely true and then um so anyway in uh
in february that's when we just said screw it it. We're just going to still go to the Arnold.
And I don't know if we've ever talked about this on air, but me and Nsema, I think we were either
going to, or coming back from a photo shoot at the Arnold. No, no, no. Before the Arnold,
when it was like, we, we, we found out that we for sure were going, it was like, like,
are we going, are we not? And then we, Mark said, yep, we're out that we for sure were going. I was like, like, are we going or are we not?
And then we, Mark said, yep, we're all going.
Okay, cool.
Me and Nsema kind of had the same feeling where we were both like, we were cautious about going, but none of us wanted to admit it.
And then I think Nsema was like, man.
And I'm like, yeah, me too.
And then we kind of both came out like
shit dude like what's gonna happen like oh my god what's you know ended up being like a really fun
trip because like i remember going to the bathroom at the arnold and it was like clean
it wasn't disgusting there wasn't like pee everywhere there was yeah there was you know
plenty of like paper towels and stuff but what an amazing trip that was so we've been going you know i've been going to the show for like 10 years almost trip that was. So we've been going,
you know,
I've been going to the show for like 10 years almost.
And then as a company,
we've been going there quite a bit last,
maybe five or six years.
And,
you know,
to describe it to people,
I mean,
this is one of the biggest fitness events in the country.
It's huge.
I think there's,
you know,
a few hundred thousand people that go to Columbus,
Ohio for the Arnold Sports Festival.
The sports festival includes jujitsu and fencing and bodybuilding and strongman and cheerleading.
I mean, there's all kinds of stuff that I probably don't know anything about.
I know there's like WWE, like wrestling tryouts, like off in the corner somewhere in that main room where they have the expo.
And then there's also this huge expo where most of the major players in fitness are in there
with showcasing their new products and having some of their influencers and athletes at the booth.
This year, there was none of that going on.
There was no, there was people, there were some people there because people just already
had plane tickets.
People already had hotels booked.
And I think Ohio didn't really shut down.
I'm trying to remember, did we have to wear masks?
No.
No, masks weren't a thing quite yet.
Yeah.
So, because this was, this was in the beginning of March.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So Ohio didn't really shut down.
They didn't prevent us from going there and things like that.
Some some places did later on.
I think I think there was talks about that as we were going to the as we were setting it up to go.
They were talking about canceling it completely.
Yeah.
And then people were like, well, that's asinine. But then we started seeing other major events, huge events that were way bigger than the Arnold,
which is hard to imagine because the Arnold's huge.
But there's a lot of other events that happen in the United States that are bigger.
And those were shut down.
And that's when you start going, oh, my God.
But as someone that runs a company and somebody that is sort of like, quote unquote, in charge of other people,
you kind of wonder, like, am I putting like, OK, I wanted to go do this.
This is going to be great.
And then you're like, well, maybe it's not great for them.
You know, Andy had to point out to me very early on, like, I want to like film all these
things.
I want to do like Hustle Mania and I want to do like A, B and C.
And she's like, you might be excited to do that
every day, but she's like, you gotta be, you gotta pay attention to your, your staff. She's like,
you might like wear them all out. And I'm just thinking like, I can't wear them out because
everyone's like in their twenties and they're younger than me and it probably won't happen,
but she was right. You know, you fucking kind of like kind of go through everybody, so to speak,
you know?
And so,
uh,
you always have to be conscious and cautious of your employees and,
and things like that.
And,
uh,
I'm grateful that you guys,
you guys have always stuck by on things like that.
You guys have always,
um,
whether you really wanted to or not,
you guys have always kind of been there for that kind of stuff.
And so it's,
it's been awesome.
Like I,
I don't,
I don't hear the stuff that you guys hear. suffer in silence every day it's horrible and now you guys just come
out you guys just come out like and there's another thing you know and yeah just listing
out all the things every tuesday you think it's like lower body day but we actually all have a
meeting inside the gym where we just lay out all our you know issues that we have and you know
grievances
and all that.
Lots of crying.
Yeah.
Those early hustle mania days were rough because that was when Mark was like full on keto.
Yeah.
So he would go like 48 hour fast and I'm just trying to hold the camera and I'm like, are
we ever going to eat?
And he's like, no, we're fasting.
I'm like, cool, man.
All right.
Well, that's kind of back.
It's also kind of cool because it's back before like
everyone had their shit together oh absolutely no so it's like you're an adult like fucking bring
your own food you know like i don't want to have to stop at like starbucks or stop here and i mean
we would still stop at places here and there but it's like you know everyone fend for yourself you
know what i mean like we're here's here's what i'm doing yeah yeah so also at the arnold was really
cool crushed uh it was a really cool experience uh especially for me and in sema um being on
table talk with uh dave tate yeah the elite fts that's definitely a highlight for me you know
personally just because that was i mean shit i didn't the last time i was there i was like this
is fucking nuts like i would have never thought in a fast forward a couple of years and I'd be actually
on that podcast.
So thanks Mark for kind of making that happen.
Yeah, that was cool.
That was a lot of fun to have, uh, you know, Dave, you know, interview, you know, kind
of have all of us involved in it.
I thought it would, I thought it'd just be beneficial to the audience because, uh, Dave
knows me from so long ago and then you guys kind of know me a lot more currently.
And so that was awesome.
And to be able to like, you know, tell Dave the impact that he's had, he didn't really even know.
Yeah.
And he broke down and he cried and he got emotional over it, which was which was really neat.
Really cool to see, because, you know, I I have a lot of compassion for him as well.
And I admire him a
ton and admire what he's done. I mean, I've kind of have followed in his footsteps, so to speak.
Same thing with like Louie Simmons, you know, Louie Simmons, his gym is free. Westside Barbell
is free. He has a totally different setup and they have a very competitive mindset there. And
it's one of the strongest gyms ever. I'm not claiming that we did anything remotely close to that, but we did make the gym free and
we, and we did so through having product just the way that Louie did. And I saw that with Louie,
I saw Dave Tate doing something similar where his website, he would make money off of his website,
but then he spent a huge amount of time and money on a Q&A section that was on his website that I was lucky enough to be a part of for a long
time.
And people would have their training logs on there.
And people are spending hours and hours on end answering these questions.
And so those kinds of things were valuable to me.
Like, hey, let's just give people a ton of, a ton of stuff that we feel is great.
We'll just keep giving people stuff that we feel is good and useful.
And then like, whatever happens after that, that would be cool.
If a bunch of, if a bunch of money came my way because of that, that would be cool.
But just kind of let it fall where it may, but deliver good quality, you know, a good
quality product to people.
That was a big thing.
I remember Dave Tate actually talking about like when,
I don't know if you, it was you,
I think maybe you asked him or somehow we came across the topic of like people
and information and coaching these days.
And I think his big thing was people just need to not be selfish and continue
putting out quality stuff for people, whether, yeah, for free. Right.
And that was, that was, that was really, really big.
I think that was one of the big parts I got from that podcast.
So I appreciate that one a lot.
Yeah.
We had him and then JL on the podcast also.
So we had just like a, and Corey G too, but we had just like a, a cool, like look back
at West side and you know, the JL with the hurt people,
hurt people that we still say to this day.
I know that's not like an original quote,
but like he said it on the podcast and that's where we all heard it.
So that's,
uh,
it's so funny.
Like just that,
that happened a long time ago and we still like,
it just stuck with us.
Well,
I remember what he said about like,
uh,
about my cousin.
I don't know if you guys remember,
but my cousin was like standing off like in the corner. Yeah. Right. And he's like, he's like, why are you standing off in the corner? He's like, I don't know if you guys remember, but my cousin was like standing off like in the corner.
Yeah.
Right.
And he's like,
he's like,
why are you standing off in the corner?
He's like,
I don't know.
He goes,
no,
you know,
you know why,
like,
you know why you're standing off in the corner.
He goes,
well,
I don't want to get in anybody's way.
He's like,
exactly.
He's like,
everything that you do has like an energy to it.
And he's like,
you're probably that way in real life.
And,
you know,
I've known my cousin since I was however old.
And,
and he is that way. He does and you know i've known my cousin since i was however old um and and he is that way he does he wants to like he wants to be the fly on the wall but you know that he wants to
participate in stuff but he doesn't ever say anything because he doesn't want to like be the
guy that like disrupt like he thinks he's going to mess everything up and that's that's not a great
way to go through life it would be fine if you wanted to observe stuff but if you do feel like you need to jump in or want to jump in because you want to experience
something, you should probably share that with somebody rather than then you, because
otherwise you kind of miss out all the time.
And also feeling like you're going to like mess stuff up.
That's not a great, I mean, I think all of us are guilty.
We've all felt that way before where you're like, I'm just going to kind of, I'm going
to be over here to chill.
But we don't allow that in super training.
We don't allow people to come in here and just look and just observe every once in a
while.
I might have an older person that comes in and, you know, we'll, we'll let some of that
slide, but people are like, oh, I want to come check it out.
It's like, no, you're coming to lift.
I come in here and lift, like come in here and experience this with us.
You don't have to try the weight that's on the bar, you know, reduce the weight if you
need to.
But, um, anyway, I, I thought that that was amazing by JL, how he kind of picked up on that.
And when he started talking more about that stuff and then he did that weird voodoo to Encima, which worked.
Yeah, I think he was able to help Encima's knee travel higher up.
I think you were standing on one foot and you brought your knee up and you were able
to bring your knee up further.
So you had to do it one time.
The second time he didn't even touch you.
He just kind of like gave you a mind bullet, which that's where the term comes from.
Because my son, when he was really little, he used to, he used to like look at you and
you thought he was going to make you float and he would shake.
And I think it was like his nervous system or something.
Some kids do this.
I don't know why, but he would look at you and he would just like tremble and we're like what the fuck is he doing
he's trying to make us disappear yeah but that's where the term mind bullet came from we're like
oh he's doing he's doing a he's doing a mind bullet like he's doing like a mind trick on us
great did it work though uh i floated a couple times okay yeah he made me he made me he made
me levitate i wouldn't think anything less i didn't know that's where MindBullet came from, man.
That's dope.
That's amazing.
And so he was giving you the MindBullet.
Huh.
That's great.
Cool.
So when we were rolling out all, because we went at the Arnold, we recorded a ton of episodes
as we're rolling all these out.
Coronavirus really was like, holy, like this is actually here in the States now.
So like, I remember we paused everything to have Gabrielle Lyon on, but this led into
April, which was a huge month for the podcast.
Real quick.
It's up.
We can't breeze over Mark asking the world's strongest gay to rate him or something.
You're like, so I mean, from a gay guy, come on.
And he got the world's
strongest gaze approval which is huge so you do well awesome high five that was such a fun podcast
i mean we were appropriate as much as we can but i remember i was doing the intro i'm like
hopefully we don't offend anybody but we're just like we're dudes and we have this opportunity to
talk to somebody who's gay and we have some questions. And he answered all of them gracefully.
He's a great dude.
That guy was fun.
It's a really good podcast.
Yeah.
Thanks for bringing that up.
Yeah, he was amazing.
I don't know if he's gotten on Tim Ferriss's show yet, but I think he's supposed to be on Tim Ferriss's show coming up.
So that would be pretty cool.
But yeah, he was amazing.
And then what stood out to me is that he mentioned, and this, this always like, it
shouldn't shock me.
I don't know why it shocks me every time I hear anything like this.
And anytime I hear stuff about a hate crime, I guess I just, I think it's so disgusting
that it throws me off track that people act this way.
But he was talking about how him and his partner were just like walking across the street and
someone, someone threw shit at them or whatever.
It's just like,
I,
you know,
I just,
I,
I can't really believe,
I can't really digest that.
You know,
it's hard,
it's hard for me to like,
well,
two guys were walking down the street.
They're not anywhere near you.
They're not doing anything to you.
They're holding hands there.
They love each other,
which is none of your business.
And then you,
I just,
I just,
you know,
it breaks my heart, but it's great to hear people share stuff like that because then you i just i just you know breaks my
heart but it's great to hear people share stuff like that because then you're like oh holy fuck
like that's that's real that's a problem that's something that happens and and uh
it's just great to be aware of it i think yeah that was awesome yeah and any yeah fucking i
hate people sometimes it's just yeah it just does does baffle me like what you hate your life so much.
Anyways, when we got back, we ended up interviewing my buddy Remington James, who's been really cool to go back and forth with like this entire year.
He's awesome. Follow his YouTube channel if you're not already.
But all this was like we were officially in full on lockdown mode at this time.
Now, um, we stopped doing interviews, uh, in-house for sure.
We stopped coming into the studio period.
The stay at home order was in place.
Mark lived in Bodega Bay for a little while.
Um, so we did everything remotely and April was a huge month.
I'm willing to bet that you either subscribe to us or unsubscribe to us in April.
Because, of course, that was it was the biggest month for the podcast for one specific interview.
You guys probably already know which one I'm going to say, but it was episode three.
Sixteen.
Let me get the date, which was on April 4th.
And that is with Dr.
Batar.
Butter. Dr. Batar, which a lot of the stuff. And that is with Dr. Batar butter,
Dr.
Batar,
which a lot of the stuff that he said was so crazy at that time that ended up
kind of coming true.
Like,
you know,
it ended up being true,
I should say with a lot of the controversial stuff that he said.
And just that led to a whole string of trying to get doctors on the podcast to
kind of call him on his shit.
And we just ended up finding a bunch of people that were like, no, he's not wrong.
And I remember that was one of the titles of the videos we put out was Dr. Bataar is not wrong.
With Daniel Orego.
Daniel Orego, because that's how he speaks.
Right.
So that was huge.
And also, we can get to that, but I don't want to forget that we did have Casio.
Oh, yeah. I don't want to mess up his last name where neck where neck yeah it's not verneck no okay maybe some people say it as a verneck maybe that's actually the correct way it's said
but everyone else says where yeah but um yeah people from the school loved that show it was
really great having cassio on um but i think going back
to dr batara the big thing that he i think he's the first one who mentioned it on our show or
maybe it wasn't but he mentioned how covet cases are like put being put on death certificates even
if like they had something else that is the real reason why they died right i think he was one of
the first people to say that on our podcast and then it started coming out that that was actually very legitimate yeah that's huge and then we had uh dr yoram lass
so zuckerberg um he said the same thing and i was kind of not frustrated but just like
like how how would you know and he's just like oh i seen the protocol like i can send you the
instructions of what hospitals are receiving and i was like oh that's
that's fucking wild like no way but dude it kept just time and time again more and more guests kept
confirming the same thing i don't think uh since that time it's been controversial on whether
the the hospitals receive money for the patients or whatever like i i don't know i don't know how
you know if this stuff is like fact or not you know it's hard to really know um but i don't know. I don't know how you know if this stuff is like fact or not. You know, it's hard to really know. But I don't think it's disputable is that they are listing people or at least they were in the beginning.
They're listing many, many people and that there could be hundreds of thousands of people that are listed as covid deaths, that it might not necessarily be covid.
Bittar said and what is actually true as far as my knowledge goes, which isn't very far, but people don't actually die from the coronavirus. They die. They die from other complications.
Usually it could be an infection. They could stop breathing. They could have fluid in their lungs.
There's usually something else that kills them. But I think that if there was a statement that dr batar said
on our show that was probably irresponsible it was it was that statement where he's like you'll
be hard-pressed to find to kill anybody and i think that that's just a little deceiving because
he is correct um but as a he is a medical professional um i would think that I think other medical
professionals would be like, dude, that's kind of
bullshit because people are
they're getting
they're not
actually dead from this,
but they are dying from it and something
else kills them, if that makes sense.
Yeah. I just
remember, you know,
when we did that Batara episode getting contacted by people
outside the podcast like just like yo i've been hearing about you guys like i'm getting texts
from you know friends saying like dude your boy mark bell is you know kind of stirring up some
shit and it all started with that episode so like i said i'm willing to bet when that episode dropped
you were you discovered this podcast this year or you said nah i'm out like that some people
started having like like real concern like hey man you okay wow like yeah no i'm i'm good why
what's up yeah you know i always have guests on the show that you know say you know different
stuff or have different ways of doing things.
Dr. Batar, I think, is I don't know if we've had anyone really share conspiracy theories before on the show.
And so that might have been new and different for people.
But just with what was going on, I felt that he fit really well with what we were trying
to uncover and what we were trying to talk about.
You know, if you remember the people that did listen to that episode,
if you didn't listen to that episode,
please do so.
I think,
I think you'll,
I think you'll like it even if you hate it.
I think you'll enjoy the entertainment of the show.
And you may agree,
you may find yourself agreeing with them if you can listen to it with an open
mind.
But when he talked about like 5g,
he talked about some stuff where we're like,
all three of us are like,
all right,
well now we're starting to kind of understand the flack that this guy gets.
Um,
because there's not really a direct link between some of the stuff that he was
saying and,
and five G.
But my,
my conclusion is that,
um,
for everything that you,
everything that we like get or gain there's a
large loss involved for every gain that you get for every like couple inches you're able to leap
forward you're gonna be uh you're gonna be going backwards a little bit you know two steps forward
one step back type of thing so i i'm a big believer that the phones and the technology and all the
different fucking things that are beaming around.
I would just say, like, look, I don't think they're that healthy for us.
What they actually do to us or or I don't I don't know.
But what a surprise me like 10 years from now, if, you know, a larger a larger percentage of people died from brain cancer or testicular cancer from keeping the phone in the
pocket or something you know i don't think it would shock anybody really like you know and again
even if it even if it even if you multiplied the deaths uh by a lot from any of this stuff uh you
still wouldn't really know you still wouldn't really have any real proof. It would just be circumstantial evidence.
And you just say, oh, we think this is the problem since it started to spike when more and more 5G towers started to come up.
But I do think that a lot of the investigation and stuff that people have been doing again, I'll say it again. I think 2020, hopefully it'll be a good year for people to learn a lot because is it okay to like, just let Elon Musk, you know, run SpaceX and have his own
private thing, you know, or is it better for it to be government funded or like, what's the
government's initiative? Who's, who's got the moral values on that. But then when it comes to 5g,
it's like, should we be paying attention to what China's doing with 5G?
Because they kind of own it.
And does that impact?
We might say, hey, we don't care.
And then after a while, we might say, hey, just kidding.
We actually do care because we didn't know what you could fucking do with it.
Oh, you have some of my information that I like to buy a lot of keto snacks on Amazon.
So the fuck what, right?
But then what if it's more personal than that?
What if it keeps continuing down a rabbit hole?
So the 5G stuff, I mean, I think it's all,
I personally think it's a legitimate thing
to have some concern over.
I don't think you should just be like,
yeah, that's total bullshit.
That's a conspiracy theory.
And don't forget the word conspiracy theory exists and it was created by our government so that when somebody does say
something fishy it's just thrown out because it's a wacko saying it's a conspiracy theory
meaning like it's got no substance to it exactly snowden immediately once you say something's a
conspiracy theory everyone like you kind of just lower its level of importance or level of reality yeah yeah and it's it's funny because like you don't think about
like well i don't think about this stuff but when you're mentioning about like setting rules and
stuff but like is there any laws in outer space like i don't know there might be but like laws
don't like get put in place until somebody messes with something. So maybe at some point, like you won't be able to like when 6G comes out, whatever that
or I think that actually does exist.
There's going to be some laws in place like, oh, you can't, you know, microwave someone's
brain with this or you know what I mean?
Like we're seeing that with the Internet now.
Like they're starting to implement more rules and the globalization that the that the Internet has caused, such as our guests who mentioned Zuckerberg kind of almost talking about the coronavirus being a social media virus.
Not that he was I don't think it was specifically targeting Mark Zuckerberg, but he's targeting some of these big companies, Facebook, Instagram and so on, that have kind of made these things global. And then, yeah, who are these people to regulate?
Who are the people on Twitter that regulate Donald Trump?
Who are the people or anybody else's message that's politically charged or charged a certain way?
Who are they to say, hey, this is not recognized as real news, real news for who?
Because our your truth is only your truth is really only your truth.
Cause there's things that have existed here on this universe before you ever even got
here that are universally true.
But we as humans will probably never really be able to grasp hardly any of them.
We have learned a lot about gravity and about space and about time and all kinds of stuff.
about gravity and about space and about time and all kinds of stuff.
But if you start to go and ask experts and you start to dive a couple of questions deep,
and we've seen it happen on this show many times,
the smartest people say,
I don't know.
Yeah.
The smartest people,
the smartest people almost always say,
you know what?
I'm not sure,
but here's what I think.
And you're like,
you've been studying this for 30 years.
This is what you think.
But that's,
that's,
that's where we're at.
That's how things work.
Yeah.
We also had Dr.
Drew on that month too.
Oh yeah.
It's fucking crazy.
And then also during this time,
Dr.
Drew,
that's right.
Race to zero followers.
When,
uh,
we had Thomas DeLauer on,
cause he was digging.
Yeah.
It was digging that.
Cause he was like,
I'm just tired.
I can't talk about what I'm doing. even remember what diet he was focusing on at that time
but he's like i think i can't make everybody happy yeah i think the race to zero followers
kind of started around that coronavirus time because of some of the posts i would make and
people were like i'm out of here you know i'm leaving and i was just like fine all right well
i'll just see how quickly i can get to zero yeah and then uh i would make a post and then people are like this isn't helping you get
towards zero so a lot of people got it a lot of people like realize i'm just kind of i'm just kind
of messing around and other people got like really like they're like i can't believe this i'm out of
here i'm never buying another slingshot again a lot of people didn't get it yeah i'll say that
yeah when i'd make a post on you know the power project instagram people were like i'm gonna help you out here's another follower loss and i'm like i dude okay
a lot of a lot of people uh that were that are already like just kind of semi-famous via like
social media they got it they're like oh they're like this is they're like this is brilliant a
bunch of different friends of mine that have like millions of followers they were like that's dope like i
want to do that but i can't but i think that's that that was a really good thing about first
off a lot of the episodes that we did when covid started with dr batar and then all those other
doctors because we were putting out information on what people can do on their day-to-day to help
them out not just like stay inside and wear a
fucking mask. Like we were, our, our, our message started with fitness. But the other thing that I
think, um, I guess was kind of surprising was like exactly how butthurt people got by like just
stuff that wasn't, I guess, totally agreeing with their point of view. You know, I mean,
we see that with diet stuff, but when it came to this, so many people were were like your information's gonna be killing people and oh yeah it's just like come on just
just take the information in and see what you can glean from it stick to lifting weights guys
i love that one yeah stay in your lane shut up and lift yeah oh god shut up and dribble yeah
one guest that we did miss that um our buddy mike on uh the live
stream pointed out was uh ethan ethan supley oh yeah that was early in february but what an amazing
transformation for that guy yeah it was crazy especially like man like his his whole background
being the fat guy like that was that was what he was known for. Huge. Huge. Yeah. No known for being the fat guy just because he's the fat guy, but then also being known for being the fat guy because he's a famous actor.
Like what?
You know, that's a lot of extra pressure on you.
I was I personally was never like the fat kid in school.
But every nearly every person listening to the show right now can think back to who
was the fat kid in your school and you know, their name, you know, you, you, you know,
their name was first and last name.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Remember, you can think of it and maybe you didn't participate in, in making fun or whatever,
but like you still, you know, you still noticed, right.
You still noticed.
And those are, those are, uh, really painful things to deal with.
So anybody that's going through anything, uh weight perspective should really go back and listen.
I really strongly suggest, and also probably try to follow some of the stuff from Ethan.
He's an amazing person.
And then also the way that he lost weight is very challenging,
very hard,
but also fairly simple.
I mean,
he,
at some point just admitted like,
dude,
you got to eat a lot less food,
you know,
and that's a tough thing to do.
But from what I recall from Ethan's story,
he didn't start out by changing his nutrition and started, started to train really hard at the same time.
I believe he got his nutrition correct first.
If you remember, he talked about like doing shakes and things like that.
He was eating really low calorie stuff and it sounded brutal, but he wasn't really exercising at that point.
And I think that that's actually important.
It doesn't mean that this is a way that your journey has to start, but to try to,
we've talked about this many times on the podcast. If you try to lower your calories,
uh, in general, let's say that you don't even really have much of a clue, but you track your
calories for a day and turns out you overeat by quite a bit. Well, let's say that you try to
reduce your calories by like a thousand or something, or, uh, even 500 every day. And
you're starting an exercise program and
regimen and you haven't been in the gym in a long time or you've never done that
before, that's going to probably feel really terrible at some point.
Your luck will probably run out.
Probably do it for a week or two weeks if you're lucky.
And maybe you do lose some weight, but you're probably going to gain it all back
because it's not, it's a lot easier to have it be slow.
And we talk a lot about on the show,
like,
Hey man,
you know what?
We don't even think that you should worry about the caloric intake for a
week or two.
If you're not used to dieting,
get used to foods first.
You know,
if you're used to stuffing down pizza and burritos and stuff like that,
get used to eating some lean steaks,
some chicken,
some Turkey,
um,
some fish and some really just healthy things,
fruits, vegetables, fill yourself up with that for a week or two.
And then if you're not really losing, then start to monitor, you know, how much you're
eating.
And then maybe you start to think about, you know, what some exercise I can do.
But it's another reason why I promote walking is walking is not going to really cost you
anything.
You would have to walk like from what I've noticed,
a tipping point is like you start to walk like over five miles a day and you
start to get fucking hungry, but that's a lot of miles. Yeah.
That's a lot of walking. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot of walking.
It's a lot of time moving. Right. So you can,
you can walk two or three miles every day without any,
without any like negative side effects to the point where it makes you
so hungry that you overeat.
So yeah, Ethan's podcast was amazing.
Another podcast I think goes well with Ethan's is Anthony, Anthony Lawley.
Oh yeah.
Because like he's also a person that he mentioned the shake thing.
Like he was doing that for a while.
He wasn't losing much weight.
He was working out, changed up his nutrition.
You know, he actually like he flew out a trainer to come help him out, but he changed up his nutrition and that's one of the big things that made the big difference
um i think another wild thing still makes me shiver from that podcast was all just the skin
stuff from that from the from his movie just like when he like his it's really cool that he showed
that transformation of what actually goes through when you're getting, you know, that skin removed and all of that,
that was tough,
but shows what has to be done.
Sometimes it was,
you know,
interesting,
like crazy to hear,
you know,
him cause he,
you know,
the,
with the Amazon series and then his other series,
I forgot the name,
but it's the transformation series on Amazon prime video also.
But,
you know,
he's interviewing a lot of people and it was weird not weird just
like i said interesting to hear that obese people are so afraid of that loose skin that they won't
even begin their journey because they're like well i'll just deal with this because i don't
want to deal with that yeah you know because like they'll just be unhappy at that weight with the
extra skin so might as well just not even go through it and i just i was blown away because
that's something i'd never even considered yeah you know so it's really cool to have someone like
that to bring a lot of that stuff to light yeah it's uh it's almost like you have scars on you
know like imagine if uh you went from uh being an alcoholic and you were able to kick it but the
side effect of of no longer being an alcoholic is that you have a big red circle on your cheek or something, right?
That would suck.
And so I think this is less visible because you could obviously wear clothes to cover some of it up,
but I think people are just really fearful of that.
And any excuse you can have to stay the same as you were yesterday
is going to be an excuse that you'll allow.
You know, excuses sound best to those that make them up.
And excuses, the most important thing to know about an excuse is that it is made up.
Like it's almost always, it's not like a lie, but it's almost as powerful as a lie.
It's really close to a lie.
It's something that you can tell yourself to feel better about being kind of stuck where you are.
Yes.
And in 2020, we had a lot of shows talking about how to get unstuck, how to get past stuff.
The show that we just did recently about not blaming 2020.
I mean, you guys are going to hear the same message from us over and over again.
And to kind of,
uh,
go along with that.
We had,
uh,
Evan Carmichael on the show and he was amazing.
And if you ever checked out some of his YouTube stuff,
uh,
he does like a top 10 with Gary Vee and Grant Cardone,
uh,
Muhammad Ali,
like Kanye West.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like,
yeah,
you name it.
Um, he's got these people on there and their message is always similar.
There's always some similar stuff in there about trying to keep moving forward, trying to not use excuses, you know, figuring out ways.
Like, how can you.
How can you just be a little bit better each day or each week?
What are some things you can do?
I mean,
all of us have stuff that we could work on.
We could get to bed earlier.
We could wake up a little earlier.
We could work on our sleep.
We could,
you know,
we could work on our nutrition and we can work on getting better hydration.
I mean,
there's just so many things that you can be working on to allow yourself to
get better.
But Evan's show was amazing in a sense that one of the things that stood out
to me was the big bag of Doritos that he had behind him.
That's right.
Yeah.
And why he had it.
And I think that there's some good like life lessons in there.
He had this bag of Doritos behind him.
We're like,
oh man,
what are you trying to try to kill yourself over there?
Cause he was talking about nutrition and staying on point.
And he goes, no, that's there for a reason.
That's because I have developed the ability not to eat it and it could be right there
next to me and it's not going to bug me.
And so that's his philosophy.
Everyone's going to be a little bit different with those kinds of things, but that's what
you're trying to build is you're trying to build yourself to be strong enough to when you are in a compromised position.
I'm not recommending that you put yourself in a compromising position, but if you are in a compromised position, you can figure out a way to be strong enough to work your way out of it.
Yeah.
And I really, really appreciate what he said about especially because he said that first video that really
got a lot of popularity was the kanye west like top 10 things you can learn from him
he was like i could easily have made a top things top thing top 10 things kanye west did like the
stupidest things he's ever done i could have made a negative video and i would have got more views
he's like but no i want to highlight you know the good stuff the uh you know just be better at everything um but yeah so going right back to april um full lockdown nothing was happening in
sports except for half thor bjornson's deadlift which was you know the 501 he was going for the
record a lot of controversy around that but it was the only thing going on in sports and we had him
and eddie hall on back to back when we were live in Bodega Bay.
That was freaking cool.
I remember I was like this.
I mean, stamps us on the fitness realm of podcasts.
You know, like these are the only two things that anybody's talking about because it's the only things that are happening right now.
Yeah.
And then we get a text from Mark like, hey, this is going to be on.
Oh, sick.
And then the very next text.
Oh, Eddie Hall is also going to be on.
Like, what?
Like, that's insane.
But it was freaking awesome.
And both of those guys, I mean, right after that, you know, they were talking shit like crazy.
But then they announced that they were going to fight each other.
Which they said on our podcast.
It was so cool.
Who was it that said it first?
Was it Eddie or Thor?
Like, I want to box you.
I think it was like someone mentioned boxing.
I just, I just remember Eddie Hall kept calling him a twat.
Yeah.
Non-stop.
Twat.
Yeah.
That was great.
I can't remember who, yeah, who mentioned it, but they're fighting and it's going to
be for like a million bucks and it's what, February?
I don't even know.
Yeah.
That's sick though.
Yeah.
That's going to be.
I'm going to watch that.
They're, they're lean too.
They've leaned out.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. They both of them must have had to drop weight right because it's gonna be it's gonna be they're gonna be gassed they are gonna be gassed it's gonna be crazy to see yeah and then
so moving on to to may that's when 2020 was in full effect uh so actually so ufos got announced
by the government nobody cared um that was pretty cool, but also murder Hornets.
If you guys remember that, that was a little scare for a couple of days there.
Yeah.
Uh, but then Ahmaud Arbery, um, Brianna Taylor, I think was just before that.
Yeah.
And then George Floyd, you know, the, uh, you know, we had Daryl Davis saying that it
was the lynching of, uh, George Floyd.
Um, that was a crazy month.
And then that was also the same month that we had Daryl Davis on,
but we had them back on after everything again,
just because we needed some,
we just needed somebody to talk to.
And Daryl Davis was freaking incredible.
Yeah.
Loved that guy on the podcast.
We should probably get them on again next year.
But that was probably the, I don't want to say the strangest year or month, but that
was, I think the month that everyone's going to point back to and being like, dude, I can't
believe all this happened this year.
Yeah.
And it's, it's, it's crazy about all of that too, because again, the only reason why a
lot of that was seen is because somebody had a camera phone out.
Ahmaud Arbery, camera phone.
Floyd, camera phone.
Breonna Taylor, that was actually going, that happened a long time before it became mainstream.
It just, because of what happened to George Floyd at the police side of things and also the social side of things from like the perspective of a black man with C.T. Fletcher, which I think was amazing.
But I think one of the one of the best episodes that people may want to listen to for a little bit of a nuanced perspective is Ryan Tillman.
Absolutely.
That's an
individual who um his content on instagram man uh if you guys aren't following ryan i've mentioned
him before but he legit will pull up videos of cops and individuals who these cops are trying
to detain sometimes these cops end up killing these individuals but the great thing with ryan
is he comes from it from a blank perspective like if the cop was in the wrong, Ryan will say so. But if that person, if, if,
if the cop actually had a reason to do what he did and potentially sometimes shooting an individual,
he'll say so too. And it's kind of hard to argue his logic when he puts it forward,
it's emotions are taken out. I think me seeing that from that perspective helped me to kind of
see the other side in a better way.
There's so many unfortunate things at play with any of these circumstances.
But if you look at it, a lot of times there's like drugs involved, right?
So on one side, you can say we can blame drugs, you know, or you can blame that drugs are, you know, throughout our inner city and things like that.
On the other side of things, though, can we admit that there's something wrong with the police officers?
Because you should be able to handle the situation better.
It should be George Floyd's situation.
Like, it seemed like it was pretty much handled until the until the guy that ended up killing him showed up on the scene, you know,
and he's the veteran police officer, like, I got it, you know,
and he's probably always the aggressor.
He probably always handled everything that way.
And it probably always worked out.
It worked out to his favor probably usually if he just went in
because maybe he didn't have a skill set or maybe he didn't have the,
or maybe he is racist. Maybe he didn't have the skill set or maybe he didn't have the, or maybe he is racist.
Maybe he didn't have the,
the verbiage to communicate with somebody and say,
Hey,
look,
here's what's going on.
Or maybe he didn't have the,
and,
but what,
why didn't he have a skill set?
He should,
he's been a cop for a long time.
He should understand like,
Hey,
you know what?
It doesn't really do you any good to talk with this guy or do anything other
than,
you know,
handcuff him and keep him in the car.
Yeah.
And I think he said that he wanted to get out of the car and stuff, but like he's high,
right?
I mean, by all accounts, they say that he was high.
So why are you listening to someone that's high?
And why are you, you know, just can the police officers have a better skill set?
I think the answer is absolutely.
And then what skill set is that?
How much, how much of it, you know, but how about just a little bit more of it, you know? Uh, cause I
think, you know, I think oftentimes it's, uh, both people in those, in those circumstances
are probably scared and nervous and being scared and nervous is not helpful in those situations.
You need to like know what to do.
I would imagine if somebody got louder than SEMA,
like,
I mean on the street is weird because they might have like a gun or a knife,
but you'd probably be calmer than the next person.
And you'd probably size it up and just say,
look,
if something happens,
like I'm really prepared for this.
I do this stuff every day.
And if it's one-on-one like good luck to you, dude, if something happens, like I'm really prepared for this. I do this stuff every day. And
if it's one-on-one, like, good luck to you, dude. But most other people would be nervous because
they're like, I don't really know. I'm not really sure what I'll, you know, if that guy comes at me,
I don't, you know, I don't know what to do. I think the police oftentimes are nervous or startled or
whatever. And they think they need to like, you know, be so brutal sometimes.
And maybe, maybe there's other ways of communicating.
Maybe there's other ways of getting out of the situation.
I think with Floyd, I mentioned before, if they had similar law to what they have in
Oregon, I'm not saying every state should have that, but maybe they would have looked
at his like rap sheet or maybe he wouldn't even have one because, you maybe his i'm not i'm not even aware of his other crimes i just know
that he had some um but maybe that maybe they're just kind of like petty things with some drugs
and if drugs were decriminalized maybe they'd say hey look this guy doesn't have really a lot
of offenses he's not harming anybody he might've had a fake bill or whatever. Fake 20.
Yeah.
Fake 20 or whatever, sir, go about your day, you know, straighten your shit up and get out of here or something like that.
You know what I mean?
I don't know.
But, uh, a lot of these things, um, they just, they seem, they seem to be things that we
can control.
There are things that we can fix.
Um, and I don't know if like, you know, I don't, I don't
know what all the protocol is, but I think we had a lot of great suggestions from people that have
been on the show before. Yeah. And I mean, that, that whole situation set forth, I mean, protests,
not just in the States, but all over the world. And I just, you hate to have to say something like it had to get to this point because people's lives were lost.
But I mean, moving forward, I have to imagine everything's going to get a lot better.
At least you would hope. Right. Yes.
So, again, don't want to say like, you know, it just had to happen for it to get better.
But it did happen. So now let's just make sure it does get better.
I think in typical American fashion, we'll see like a swing to this other side and overcorrect, you know, just like when someone misses a field goal and in football, they miss it to the left.
And then sure enough, they fucking miss it.
Right.
And the third time they kind of get it right.
And hopefully, you know, hope at some point we can figure out a way to get some middle ground.
But the ugly truth of it all is that people really cared about each other after 9-11 happened.
As Americans, you know, people really came together, but that died.
That died, you know, just three, four months, well, maybe like six months later you know because now look at you know
look at the situation we're in now um where you hear people say there's more racism than ever
circulating um and then people are trying to figure out a way to like uh like destroy racism
or kill it somehow yeah um but i the only way that those things die off are as our older generation dies off and there's less people that are straight up like one ethnicity.
You'll have no ground to stand on to really be racist because you'll be a mix.
You know, like I'm a I'm a I'm a bunch of different things.
It already doesn't make any sense because people aren't people don't even know what race they are anyway.
And 23 and me,
I think most of these things are bullshit.
I don't,
I don't,
I don't think they're super accurate.
I'm not the only pure blood on there.
I think so.
Yeah.
Most people are like,
most people are like a mix.
Most people in the United States are a mix of something.
Right.
And just the,
the idea of racism,
of something, right?
And just the idea of racism, the idea that your race is somehow inherently superior to other people's race, you know, there's no other way to put it.
It's a completely illogical, irrational thought process.
There's no other way around it.
You can say there's differences sometimes within races, but then once you start to say or show there's differences, then you have to say, look, there's
a lot of differences in their environment as well. I remember, you know, hearing a study about
Nigerians, Nigerians in America versus Nigerians in Nigeria. And they're, they're like fasting
insulin, they're fasting blood sugar. The fasting insulin and fasting blood sugar of Nigerians in America was terrible.
The fasting insulin and fasting glucose of Nigerians in Nigeria was amazing.
So you can say, oh, Nigerians have the superior gene when it comes to the uptake of carbohydrates.
And it's like, well, do they?
Because when they're in this other environment, they don't.
And same with any of us. You put us in different environments. It's hard to really know. Is it our environment? Is it our, you know, is it is it the environment and culture that some of the Asian cultures have adapted to to have them have really good grades in school and have them advance. I mean, a lot of, I don't know about you guys, but in my school,
there was a couple of kids that were taking college courses and they were in
like 10th grade.
None of them were white.
None of them were black.
None of them were Mexican.
They were all Asian.
At least the ones I knew,
you know,
going from my experience.
The funny thing is someone's going to hear that and you're like,
Oh, that's so messed up. But yo, that you know, going from my experience. The funny thing is someone's going to hear that and you're like, Oh,
that's so messed up.
But yo,
that was the same over at my school.
There were a few of these Asian kids who were already like in like college
courses.
Yeah.
And then our Asian people way smarter or do they have the ability to learn
faster or more?
Maybe,
maybe,
but I doubt it.
It's probably their environment,
cultural importance of education. Yeah. They, they, yeah, they put a real high importance on it. It's probably their environment. Cultural importance of education.
Yeah, they put a real high importance on it, right?
Yeah.
Another thing that came out in May, which, again, just draws more attention to this month being like a WTF month, is the populization of Karens around the world.
And people started filming and posting and just the whole name Karen and then around the world and people started filming and
posting and just the whole name Karen.
And then like the haircut and all that was,
uh,
I've just,
you got to change your name at this point.
Yeah.
And hairstyle.
I think honestly though,
the whole Karen thing though,
the Karen thing is great because,
um,
uh,
for the longest,
like I've known about Karen's and like like all of my all my black friends have
known about karen's for years it's like you like it's normal to know that there are certain
individuals who will just call the police on you if you if you look like that that was kind of known
but now that like again karen was caught on camera right like everyone's like oh my god how did this
happen hey we've known about this for a long time.
Like I'm just being real.
That shit happens a lot.
That's so funny.
I remember that hairstyle being the, I need to speak to the manager lady as well.
I think they might be related.
That's so funny.
Yeah, man.
And then I think, I don't know if I mentioned it, but also if you guys remember Tiger King,
that was the only thing that was on, like anybody was talking about as far as what they're watching,
what a crazy storm that was as well.
It was just perfect timing because everyone was at home and it's like, here's this, this
country singing weird ass show.
I just was, it was so bizarre, but it was entertaining.
I watched it.
I don't know.
Mark, did you end up watching it?
I watched some of it and the show couldn't have got any more weird.
Like it just got weird.
I just remember not liking it.
I didn't really like it.
I remember he came on here and he was like, that's the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
And me and Insim were like, oh, okay.
Yeah, it is.
It sucks.
But we're like still full on.
I still watched a lot of it.
I mean, I watched a good amount of it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just some notable guests from that month.
We had Aubrey Marcus back on,
but we also had Paul Saladino. So
him, Andrew Huberman
and Lane Norton all came on this podcast
before they went on to Joe Rogan.
I think that's very cool. Yeah, we're the
minor leagues, baby. We made it. We're the
trampoline. We're the farm team
is what it's known. The slingshot.
What's a farm team? Can you explain? So like in the big leagues in baseball. Slingshot backs are better than trampoline we're the farm team is what it's known yeah the slingshot farm team can you explain uh
so like in in the you know in the big leagues in baseball backs you're better than trampoline
slingshot does work so like every pro team in baseball has a farm team so like they're growing
there yeah they like they steal some kid out of high school so they put them in their farm team
till he gets good enough and then they pull them up to the pros he gets called up to the big show
very cool so that's that's what we are right now for right now until we triple a,
whatever they call it.
Yeah.
Until we,
you know,
get big enough to compete with the Yankees.
Yeah.
But yeah,
so that was,
you know,
a fun,
fun month,
but also a huge highlight for me that I just,
because everyone loves it so much,
you know,
the fans of this podcast listeners with with may 20 sorry yeah may 23rd
was the first ever mark bell saturday school and the the response that we've gotten from
those episodes has been freaking great um i love seeing everyone comment on the youtube channel
uh you know screenshot stuff on instagram and post it to their stories it's been a a lot of fun. And then taking those clips with, which if you guys,
you've definitely seen them, so you're familiar, it's just audio.
So a good fun challenge for me is just to get enough B roll to cover, you know,
big sections of whatever Mark talks about. That's extremely motivating. Um,
and so I spent a lot of time, we've only done like 20 something episodes,
but I've spent a lot of time on each one because, you know, it's just, they And so I get a huge benefit from it.
Um, and I, I just, man, like I said, everyone loves that, um, that format of a show. So I think it was, it was frigging awesome to do that, Mark.
Yeah.
We have some amazing timing with some, uh, guests and stuff as well.
Like, as you mentioned, like we had Huberman and then like two weeks later he was on, uh,
Rogan, which was probably already like in the books
and then we've also kind
of you know intentionally had
certain people on due to like circumstances
that were happening like the Attila's
gym situation
in New Jersey where they were getting fined
significantly that's
actually one of my favorite shows from the
year I thought that those guys were
excellent they were level headed they're trying to find a compromise they're trying to find actually one of my favorite shows from from the year i thought that those guys were uh excellent
they were level-headed they're trying to find a compromise they're trying to find a way to still
run their gym they made their gym free um they have every protocol possible to ensure that they're
being as safe as possible while still kind of breaking the rules of the law and by being open
they're not supposed to be open but they said said, fuck it, we're going for it.
But then another one that kind of stands out to me is that we had Dave Castro on and we
talked a lot about like CrossFit and, uh, you know, the, how big CrossFit has grown
and, and maybe some directions it was going to go in and so on.
And then there was the, uh, situation that happened with Greg Glassman where he basically,
I guess you'd say he cancelled himself
yes he did by making like
disparaging remarks on
Twitter where he said something to the effect of
like Floyd 19
instead of COVID-19
but no one really knows what he meant
I have no idea
why he's like it's a weird
thing to say
both things are so,
uh,
so such hot red button topics.
It would have been different.
Actually.
I think if he was to say something like that on a podcast and he would
explain himself and he had a halfway decent explanation for what the hell it
is he was trying to,
uh,
convey,
uh,
it probably wouldn't have been such a problem,
but I do think that there was so many other things going on in CrossFit that people saw
and whether they're true or not, people were very frustrated with Greg Glassman.
And that statement kind of just, it exploded CrossFit for a minute there.
Yeah.
And I think, you know, they picked up the pieces and I think they'll totally be fine.
And it's probably a change that was needed to happen anyway.
Um,
but yeah,
having Dave Castro on the show and having him kind of explain the beginning,
uh,
of CrossFit and like where it all started and how it got to be,
I think was really cool.
Yeah.
And,
and also,
um,
it's funny because what was the name of,
um,
the CrossFitter?
He's a cook.
Also,
what's his name?
Um,
God,
he's going to hate me for this.
Oh my God.
He was on our show.
Yes.
Yeah.
Uh,
him,
him and his brother,
Jack Switzer,
Matt,
Matt Switzer,
Matt,
dude,
sorry,
but I just had this whole brain fart,
man.
I had a total brain fart, but a total brain fart but Matt was a
crossfitter uh he is a crossfitter and he was mentioning how like we were just dumb with our
questions for Dave Castro like because we didn't know much so some of the things that we asked him
crossfitters like oh my god you asked Dave Castro yeah oh yeah yeah just yeah just because of like
the affiliation that people have like you kind of
like oh you can't ask about this and that like yeah you do you kind of almost get blacklisted
and we did and we did but hey we uh matt was like but it was so cool that you guys asked him but
when you guys did i was like oh no you can't ask that yeah so yeah that's funny i forgot all about
that and now dave's president correct yeah that works he is yeah he's the president and they have a new uh ceo and uh i think things
are running fairly smoothly i think some people de-affiliated or whatever and uh kind of have
moved on um i'd say another podcast i really liked a lot was when we had tim kennedy on
um his his podcast was great again that atillis gym, I can't stop thinking about that one
just because of the amount of work and time that those guys spend.
I remember they were saying they were like living at the gym, you know, and they're spending
all this time away from their homes and people think it's
a ploy for publicity or money or whatever, but
it seemed like those are good-ed people that are really just trying
to figure out a way to survive and not have their rights ripped away.
So I think anyone that wants to like kind of learn and know some of the
impact that the Corona virus has had and some of the,
not so much the Corona virus,
but the the lockdown and the other things surrounding the coronavirus,
I think should listen to that show because there's just such great information.
And then Tim Kennedy, he had a lot of great solutions to many different things.
We talked about, not that he had a solution for racism,
but we talked a lot about systemic racism with him in particular.
And he had a lot of great things to say that I think could be effective,
uh,
in fighting against some of that.
And he had a lot of great things to say in a wide range of stuff.
I mean,
if you remember,
he talked about,
uh,
his military background,
he talked about,
uh,
his fighting background.
He talked about education system and how he's really kind of,
uh,
more for,
uh,
some untraditional education,
which we're going to see a lot more of that.
I think 2020, as I mentioned, you know, is a great year for people to reevaluate.
All right, let's reevaluate, you know, how police do stuff.
Oh, well, if we're looking into the police, maybe we should look into the fire department
because maybe there's things we could do better there.
Yeah.
There's all these crazy fires here in California.
Are there things that we can do that are preventative in advance to prevent
those fires?
From people I know I've heard there are things,
you know,
maybe we need to invest more time,
more money into that.
I don't know where you get the money from or propose that I know anything
about any of that,
but these are all things you can reevaluate.
Should we reevaluate our education system?
I think it's a great time because how long has that education system been intact?
And is it really that effective?
Who is it really benefiting? You know, my dad used to kind of say, you know, there's like 25% of the people, you
know, that are ahead.
And there's like another portion of the class that's behind.
And maybe there's like a chunk of 20% of the people in the class are getting
like a,
a real benefit,
you know?
And so that,
that doesn't seem to be effective.
You know,
if you've got like 40 kids in a class and,
you know,
just a handful of them or 10 of them or something like that are getting the
main benefit of it.
And then all the other kids are,
are either way too far ahead and bored with the class or the other kids are
way too far behind and not getting shit from it. Cause it's not learning or they don't care what their situation
is what are some ways you know what are some ways that we can uh even with children i think you know
children are seen and not heard but what if you actually heard them listen to them and what if
you know what if uh somebody in a position to teach said, Hey, what do you want to learn? And you said, you're nine years old.
You're like, I want to learn about Minecraft and say, all right, cool.
Here's what we're going to learn about Minecraft. Like, and you, I don't know,
you take them through some steps of like, you know,
what Minecraft is and how it was created or you look up,
let's see who invented it, who invented it and why. Oh, look, it's invented by,
it's not invented by a major company.
It's invented by this guy.
Oh, let's look at this guy.
Well, you investigate or look into that person and you do like a book report on that person.
Like what's wrong?
Hey, let's play the game a little bit.
Let's tell me about what you like about it.
You know, what's cool about it.
And then you also have to explain to the kid, hey, you know, we're not going to play Minecraft all day.
You know, we're going to do some other stuff.
What else are you interested in?
And they might just mention another video game.
That's when you got to try to say, hey, do you like football?
Like soccer?
Do you like, you know, like to climb ropes?
Or what do you like to do?
What's the name of our... Matt Boudreaux.
Yep, there you go.
Yes. Yeah, yeah. the name of our matt board yeah there you go yes yeah yeah no um one thing about that that was just like so shocking was just the agency that they gave those kids like imagine if all kids were
just like that's the way that they were taught they were they were taught to have independence
to have independent thought not to think the way everybody else in their classroom thinks or do the
same exact things that was pretty crazy but one thing about Tim Kennedy, which I think kind of goes back to what
we were talking about as far as the environmental effect that the environment has on youth,
Tim went into some things there that some people would find fairly uncomfortable. And I think that
you just have to listen to the podcast to understand what I'm talking about. But Tim has
his views on that, views that i actually agree with
and they're very i guess most people would find taboo to talk about so that's all i'm going to
say about that but tim has some really good views there so you guys should check that one out yeah
and then the uh so the ian smith and frank trombetti episode was episode 443 and a a common
comment that comes in all the time on that episode is people talking about how Ian Smith did kill a young young man from drunk driving.
And obviously, we're not going to say that, you know, we're not going to OK that.
But the reason why we all know a lot about that is because Ian Smith has come out and done videos on that, that, that subject videos.
So,
you know,
again,
I don't,
I'm not going to say like,
Oh,
it's fine.
He's admitted that it was his mistake,
but I mean,
he's,
he's owning up to it.
He's not like trying to ignore it.
We didn't talk about it on that episode at all because there was no need to,
because we were talking about something else.
But for anybody that's stuck on that one thing, I mean, again, you know about it because we were talking about something else but for anybody that's stuck on
that one thing i mean again you know about it because he's talked about it right you know like
again not obviously that family's not going to just move on so i'm not going to tell anybody
to do that but for that one episode if you can just focus on that topic that we're speaking of
i think you'll get a lot from that episode. Yeah. Those situations are tough because you're like, well, shit, man, is the guy's whole
life ruined forever?
Well, you could say, well, it should be because he killed somebody, you know, so those situations
are really tough, but all you can do is, you know, judge people on how they, they, how
they deal with situations like that and not in what they say, but in their actions.
And it looks like he has good actions today.
Again, that's probably not enough for the family that he ended up killing the other kid or whatever happened in that situation.
I'm not really 100% aware, but those are horrific things.
But it's good to see that he's trying to do something better.
It's good to see that he's trying to do something better. Uh, it's good to see that he changed.
I think he had a, I think he mentioned having some hard times in the past and maybe, uh,
alcohol or drugs, maybe those were things that he, uh, couldn't defeat, uh, at that
time.
Yeah.
And then, um, so moving on to July was a huge month.
We had Flex Wheeler on was a very emotional podcast episode.
Yeah, that was.
I mean, to this day, we still get so much traction on the short clip that we cut out from that episode.
And he ended up being on a bunch of other podcasts and stuff as well.
Yeah, this was a huge slingshot.
Yeah.
London Real, I think he ended up on and a couple other ones.
Yeah.
Bodybuilding Yoda.
Yeah. The amount of I feel a vulnerability that he had on that episode with like the i guess honestly
the ability that he knew himself when he was younger like he he was talking about how confident
everybody else thought he was but he was actually extremely scared the whole time and the reason why
he was acting out so much was to put a face
forward you know what i mean just like the vulnerability in that episode was something
something pretty crazy that i didn't expect him to say a lot of things i didn't expect him to say but
that was a really good one yeah so same month the uh slingshot turned 10 oh my god yeah 10 year
anniversary amazing um on the 13th of that month, we actually
had an episode dedicated to that, but yeah, I mean, Mark, what do you, I mean, 10 years ago,
do you see this or did you maybe see something, but you just weren't sure?
I'll answer it by saying Steve jobs quote, where he said, you can't connect the dots moving forward.
You can only do so moving backwards.
So it's easy for me to say now,
like,
yeah,
I kind of saw this coming.
Cause I connect all the dots very easily of,
of my background and all,
and of the things that I've done,
it completely adds up and makes a lot of sense.
But no,
I didn't really know.
Um,
I've always been like a dreamer
though i've always thought like big things for myself um that i never really thought were uh
like so large that i wouldn't be able to obtain them like i never really thought about being like
a millionaire necessarily and even now i don't think about being like a billionaire,
but I wouldn't rule it out of the question.
Like I have a lot of other inventions and ideas and creations that I don't
know where it will lead me.
I don't have any idea.
But I mean,
I always had an open mind towards being successful.
I always did want to be wealthy.
I always wanted to be rich from the time I was a kid.
I was pretty fascinated by it from the standpoint of like,
that's really cool.
You can just like,
I would love the ability just to go buy whatever I want.
Kind of like,
I think that's pretty neat.
Yeah.
And I was around a lot of money from,
uh,
from seeing my dad,
you know,
my,
the basement of our garage was converted into,
half of it was my dad's tax practice,
and the other half of it was our weight room.
So money and weights kind of always went together,
because when I would get done lifting,
I would go over and say what's up to my dad.
He'd be in between appointments, and he'd be like,
hey, I made 700 bucks today.
And he would show me the money that he made,
and he would tell me who he made it from.
And a lot of times it was like friends or people that we knew from the church
or,
um,
or even family members.
I was like,
this is crazy.
Like,
why are you charging your friends and family members?
But,
you know,
he's providing a service.
Like it's not,
not free.
Right.
And so,
uh,
I always just found,
I found all that to be really interesting and fascinating.
I never really cared a ton about
like money and status necessarily, but I did think it was great. Um, that as a kid,
when I was little, when I was really young, we, we couldn't afford a lot of things. We couldn't
do certain things. And then I saw my dad, you know, being able to get get climb the ladder in ibm and then later get released from ibm and then
uh pivot off of that and have his own business and do really well with with that and i was able
to see us kind of climb you know climb back up and be able to kind of have i mean within reason
you know have at least have you know have anything that anyone else on the block had
um i mean if we didn't have like
a boat or anything like that when I was a kid but like if we
wanted one we could we could have had one
my uncle had one
we had weights in our garage we had a pool
we like you know we weren't like
we weren't
rich by most standards
but I would say that we were rich because we could
you know we had nintendo
and nintendo games and you know what i mean like we said fucking excess shit and tons of food in
the fridge and all that yeah yeah so in in a year 2020 that you know a lot of people like oh it's
2020's fault um where businesses did have to you know close up shop um Slingshot was able to release the Infinity Loop,
the Mammoth Band, Infinity Loop Max,
Mammoth Band Max, Deadlift Slippers,
Mobility Pack, a Training Backpack,
Slingshot Briefs, Shaker Cup, Everyday Sleeves,
a Multi-Sport Belt.
We even did a Beat the Boredom Pack
that our buddy Matthew Balcom reminded us of,
but also the Bicep Board.
And this was the same month that we had Mike Frank on,
now a friend of Mark Bell and the podcast.
But how sick is that?
Naming off that list,
shit, I forgot more than half of them,
but how cool is that?
It's got to feel amazing, Mark.
Yeah, it's gotta feel amazing, Mark. Yeah,
it is.
It's great.
You know,
we have a great team where I don't have to,
uh,
invest as much time in those things anymore.
So that works out really well.
We can make them faster.
Uh,
shout out to our boy,
Tom,
who's been,
uh,
been working his face off,
helping,
helping design products.
And sometimes,
uh,
some of these have even been collaborative
to the point where he'll get
his name mentioned in patents and stuff
like that which I think is exciting
and cool
so yeah it's been great and I
just think you know it's
exciting but I'm always like
that shit's pretty cool but like wait till you see what comes
out next and I've been saying that forever
but that's just kind of maybe that's just the mindset that will always be I'm trying to that shit's pretty cool, but like, wait till you see what comes out next. And I've been saying that forever. Um,
but that's just kind of,
maybe that's just the mindset that will always be.
I'm trying to, uh,
be done with a lot of this stuff,
not this stuff,
not this podcast,
but trying to be done with most of this work stuff by 45.
And the clock is ticking cause I'm 44.
So I basically have,
uh,
one more year,
uh,
until I can kind of maybe remove myself more from
stuff, but I don't even know what that'll involve. And I don't even know what the fuck I'll do.
Other than that, I just know that just in seeing like other friends, like wear themselves out and
things like that. I'm like, it doesn't have to necessarily happen at 45, but it would be nice
if it did.
Obviously, I'd still be working on other stuff.
I'm in the middle of starting a supplement company, so I don't know how that'll work out. But there's probably about four or five more ideas that are pretty big, and then I don't know what will happen after that.
I don't know. A happen after that i don't know
a lot of these ideas have been like in me forever they've been with me for a long time
and there hasn't really been anything new there's some stuff that i haven't talked about
that would be new to everybody else um but uh i think i'll be able to get most of them done
within like the next year or at least the blueprint for all of them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So July was a huge memorable month for everybody.
But that was the month that I announced that I was going to have a baby.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Congo.
Yeah.
I haven't told you guys, but we do have a name.
Oh, shit.
Shall I reveal?
Yes.
So I've always liked that.
My initials are easy i don't hey i appreciate
it but i think it's a little ridiculous naming your kid after me but thank you
somebody told you guys already mark anthony zaragoza golly it's gonna be mark and sema
o'hearn zaragoza there we we go. Sounds very Elon Musk of you.
So I wanted it to be an A.
Maybe any guesses?
Aaron. Nope. Apollo.
Nope. Getting closer.
Alex? Nope.
So we don't have a middle name, but
his first name will be Aurelius.
Woo!
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, I just feel like everybody wanted to be Andrew Jr.
I'm thinking his middle name might be something along those lines.
But yeah, one day I was just like, ah, that's definitely it.
I like it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,
Marcus really says how the huge impact on me,
but my,
my thing is like,
I'm thinking like if he ever loses his way,
he can just look within his name and he'll find his way.
There you go.
Yeah.
So yeah,
that's,
that's July for me,
man.
And you need to save this part of the podcast clip for when he's like five or seven.
Yeah.
I'll be like, yeah, you got to look within yourself.
He's going to be like, what?
And then by then, you know, within supplements will be huge.
So, like, go buy some protein.
That's awesome, Andrew.
Thank you.
Yeah.
I mean, thank you for showing me stoicism because that's, like I said, huge impact on me and my family.
You know, sometimes I'll have my sister that she'll she'll call me and she'll be like, you know, stressed out about something.
And I'll be like, hold on, give me a second.
I'll pull out like daily stoic and I'll just read or something.
Oh, cool.
And she she I mean, she calls me to support that for that specific reason.
So since we're on this topic, we did have Ryan Holiday.
I'm not sure what that was.
Yeah. So that was actually the same month.
No, no, sorry.
That was August.
That was the next month.
But August, again, another like, oh my gosh, here we go, 2020.
We lost Chadwick Boseman, Black Panther.
Yeah.
That one hurt, man.
Yeah.
That one was pretty sudden, too.
Yeah.
And the crazy thing, though, is like people were putting out videos.
There was a video of him when he was like really skinny.
You probably seen it.
He was super skinny and people were like, Oh, what are you doing?
Have you, are you eating?
Why are you so small?
Blah, blah.
People are making fun of him.
Not knowing that this was the cancer.
And then he, and then he, you know, goes.
So that was just a, Hey, you don't know what people are going through.
He made multiple movies for four years while he had cancer in pain didn't in pain didn't tell anybody once they never
complained yeah at least that we know you know that's but yeah uh california was on fire again
uh wap wap wap dropped the song wap that's a classic a classic american yeah folk song yeah there you go but uh singing
around the campfire we we heard of the uh the the case case demick with ivor cummins
and that was another episode that kind of got people fired up because of what he said
another guy who put out a lot of statistics yeah just facts it was really good yeah lots of graphs a lot of them i don't understand
but i'll still retweet them yeah just because i trust him he really crushed it i hope that he uh
goes through with making that remember he's talking about making a documentary about it
that's right yeah hopefully that's oh i think i saw that oh shit maybe that was something else
but i think i just recently saw something maybe that was something else but i think i just
recently saw something about that coming to fruition so yeah hopefully it does work out
also not just because she was dope michaela peterson was on that same month in august
that was freaking dope let's see what else do we have another saturday school episode which was
really awesome in september was mark's hit. It was his power lifting hit list.
Again,
another Saturday school episode that resonated really,
really well with a lot of people.
All those episodes are really good,
but that one was fun.
We're having fun with that.
It was just Mark just explaining how he was wanting to crush everybody in power lifting and like where that whole competitive edge came from.
That was a lot of fun.
Yeah.
And then,
so after not having anybody in studio for a
really long time at that point we had our buddy mark lobeliner come in and you guys had the uh
the outright bar live on air oh man that thing is great that was that's a really good bar i would
say that's that and the hero bar the two best bars that you can buy i think the hero bar has like
less carbs in general like so the hero bar has like less carbs in general. Like,
so the hero bars,
calories,
less calories,
hero bars,
only like one 71 80,
I think.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's less calories,
but they're like,
it's the hero bar.
And now who's counting though,
in terms of the taste,
they're really good.
I think a kid might like the outright bar better than a hero bar,
but I don't know.
I never tried it.
Yeah.
Never tried it with kids, but the outright bar is this really good mark did a great job with it
It's great having him in studio
get an opportunity to train with him and mess around a bunch and
Go over some bench pressing stuff and he was showing me some bodybuilding stuff
And I don't know how he's I don't know if he competed yet
Oh, he must have competed about now right because he was competing in like december or something like that uh i don't remember what was the reason but he had
to pull out so he didn't end up competing and good he was yeah yeah so that's why i have to
go back and figure out why but he was very open about it you know you guys need to go listen to
that episode because it was super funny oh yeah he was he was a lot of fun yeah i think something we said something in the beginning that was just
wrong so yeah we started off on the wrong right foot yeah it was great um real quick though but
uh we'll just october was another 2020 year month whatever you want to call it. We lost our biggest fan, Mama Belle, Rosemary Belle.
And, of course, in very Mark Bell fashion, just absolutely, I can't even put it into words,
but the day his mom died, he sent a Saturday School episode.
Started out, I recorded this the day I lost my mom.
It really,
really hit me,
dude.
Cause like I got so motivated cause I'm like,
I was shook.
Right.
And here you are sending this and I'm like,
what the heck?
So it made me step my game up.
So thank you so much for that.
Yeah.
As I said,
mama didn't raise no bitch.
You know,
she's like,
yeah,
she did coddle me and she did,
you know,
love me and smooch me and hug me a bunch. But, she filled me with a lot of confidence but uh she also um i think
made me aware of life situations and just being able to uh be able to handle some of the tough
situations in life rather than you know shying away from them she couldn't really do that herself
but she knew that that was the key and uh i learned that from her and so you know, shying away from them. She couldn't really do that herself, but she knew that that was the key.
And,
uh,
I learned that from her.
And so,
you know,
I'll always be thankful and grateful,
uh,
for the time that I did have with her.
Absolutely.
Um,
yeah,
damn rest in peace.
Mama bell,
our biggest fan.
Um,
November we're moving right along is when we had Mike Izzertal back on and within
the first five minutes he talks about
going Anaconda style on your favorite
bodybuilder because he does partial
range of motion. I think one of the best parts of that
episode though was you two going back and forth
because of you.
That was so good. I get in my car
and I totally forgot that we had a show
even though I think there was mention of it earlier in the car and i totally forgot that we had a show even though like i
think there was mention of it earlier in the day or something i don't remember yeah i know i wanted
to reach out to him but it just i think it just would have made everything worse but i'm like ah
fuck dude i'm sorry i forgot i was the one that's supposed to remind mark and i didn't because it
was like i'm glad you're so prepared for this because you're in your car or whatever yeah i'm
glad you take me serious that you're in your car.
But yeah, that was fun because me and Encima thought, yeah, we're all going to be in the studio.
And I'm like, Mark, I'm so sorry.
I didn't know you were going to be in Bodega.
And you're like, I wasn't sure if I was going to be here either.
Or you said, I sure didn't know.
And so that was fun.
But that episode was another just Mike Izzard.
If there's somebody
that we could ever have like on retainer to have once a month like it would definitely be him yeah
he's fun he's really fun it was still a killer episode it was still i think in sema ate two bars
during the show almost i just didn't want you know i was wondering i'm like man you're patient
you took you this long to eat one yeah but I've just been kind of waiting to finish.
So I'll do that now.
Another fun episode.
What's that, blueberry?
That's the best one, by the way.
Blueberry cobbler.
Not a good one.
No.
It's really good, but not a good one.
I might have to grab blueberry on the way home.
Blueberry is the best one.
And then that chocolate caramel or whatever it's called.
Pecan.
Pecan.
Don't sleep on the peanut butter one though
there's a peanut butter one there's a peanut butter hero bar yeah yeah peanut butter chocolate
hero bar yeah that's the best one i never had it but that's the best one you already know yeah god
i thought you guys had it already i haven't no i didn't know it existed. We got to talk to these people. This is news to me.
Twenty twenty.
Thanks a lot.
For nothing.
Episode four forty seven.
The social dilemma is Tim Kendall.
That was another good episode.
That whole that documentary was great.
But what was that in SEMA?
I can't hear you.
Damn it.
Keep going.
I got one.
Tim Kendall was awesome.
He was the former president of Pinterest and he was in charge
of like getting ad revenue or ads for Facebook right yeah he knows a lot about keeping people
yeah you know and the stuff that he was saying you know with his uh with his new app you know
he's like oh you have this app and we've been around for like a year and he's like I got seven
million people on it's like wait, I got 7 million people on.
It's like, wait, what?
You got 7 million people on there, right?
You've only been around for a year.
But his app, you know, kind of helps support people to, you know,
just not be on social media too much.
I think it's an app that has some transparency to it,
to where other members of the family or whoever you want to share it with
can see how much time that you're spending on there.
So someone can kind of look and say, you know, and the whole family can do that with each other.
So you can I guess you can keep yourself accountable by not being on there too much.
Yeah, I think first off, like having him on, but also in seeing that documentary,
I think it kind of echoed a lot of the issues that we've been having in 2020 as far as like social interaction.
I noticed in myself and the circles of people that I have on Facebook and friends, like how, you know, how in an echo chamber every individual is.
Like you pay attention to some things on the left, everything that you consume is going to be on the left.
If you pay attention to some things on the right, everything you consume is going to be on the left. If you pay attention to some things on the right, everything you consume is going to be on the right.
I even saw it in like when I had searched certain things for after a while, all of my
recommended stuff and all the things I'd see would be from these individuals that might
lean right.
And then I'd have to go and actually search for things on the other side to get a different
perspective.
So I think that podcast definitely helped highlight a lot of things of why we're having
such crazy issues as a society this this year yeah why there's like such a huge uh deviation between sides you know like and it's
funny because like you know we talk about ps5 and xbox usually off air but like i didn't even really
know the console wars was it was it's a it's toxic but like i've always had a playstation so
i've never paid attention to anything.
Xbox.
Yeah.
No,
I just dropped and became a peasant.
Yeah,
that's all good.
Next,
next subject.
I'm sorry.
Pony,
please.
It's called X bots.
I know,
I know,
but it's so funny because yeah,
I'll follow like a bunch of like Xbox accounts on Twitter.
And like,
now that's all I see is like people shading on PlayStation.
I'm like,
you guys are like,
you know that it's also a dope system too.
I don't really get it,
but it'll all be solved because I got an Oculus.
Andrew told me about how he's been watching some VR pornography.
And I told him,
I told him, don't do it
because it's like apps it's gonna suck you in but this man he doesn't listen you are a terrible liar
it's so funny i'm telling insuma about this oculus and that's the first thing that comes up
and i'm like i've already decided no porn will be on this device good because i just don't want
to crack that door open.
Mark is like, how did we get here?
Because he's just been watching.
For reals.
All right.
And Oculus is the VR glasses?
Yes.
So sick, dude.
Yes, it is.
I'll bring it in one day.
I just.
I don't think I knew you could watch porn on there.
I thought it was just like a video game thing.
We've spoken about this.
Or is it just the internet?
A long time ago.
No, no.
I know.
If it has a screen, there's going to be porn okay it just it doesn't matter yeah they make everything for
porn pretty much it might have been the thing that advanced it because when i put this thing
on for like the first three seconds i knew that all right so speaking of porn here we go
so like when you when you have these phones right you got these like new phones, right? And the phone can send like the new phone.
iPhone 12 can take like this,
these crazy fucking videos,
right?
But you can't really do anything with them.
You can't really send them to anybody.
How come the porn sites are the only ones that have shit figured out?
Like you can watch that shit in seven 20 P if you want,
if you want it quick and easy,
you can, you can watch, you can watch it in a different format.
When you have your phone, why can't you choose what format that you send it in?
I know you can record it in smaller files or whatever, but you try to send that shit
to somebody and they got this giant file and they can't do anything with it.
So it's so funny.
So the, uh, like when you're on YouTube and you,
you scroll over a video and it shows a clip,
like it shows like,
you know,
like still images of the clip.
Uh,
I remember seeing a tweet from,
I think,
I think it was porn hub,
but they were like,
Hey,
where'd you guys get that feature from?
Cause it was theirs.
Yeah.
They got so much money that,
but it's like,
yeah.
Why,
why,
why is the porn industry the leading thing in media?
Like, it shouldn't, but it is.
It really is.
It's always pushing forward.
Taking over.
Literally.
And back and pushing forward again.
Back and forth over and over.
Ba-doom-tsh.
Ba-doom-tsh.
Yeah.
In December, Mike Tyson came back.
That was a fun event.
That was awesome.
Yeah, we had Blake the Beast McKernan on from... Who was part That was a fun event. That was awesome. Yeah.
We had Blake the Beast McKernan on from-
Who was part of the card.
Yeah.
So Sacktown boy, that was cool having him on.
But Mike Tyson coming back was sick because we all just want to see him fight someone else.
Right.
That's how I, in my opinion, that's how I know that he still has it.
So that was freaking dope.
That was cool.
Who else?
Yeah.
I was gonna say more recently we had Benjamin Bickman on dude,
that episode,
such a good episode.
That's still on.
Okay.
Everyone,
you need to go listen to that one too.
If you're all,
if you've been wondering about insulin resistance and it's always just been
something that's a little bit too difficult to understand,
that's an episode to listen to.
Cause he made it very easy to understand.
Digestible. Yeah. And then even making it even more digestible i have like some some clips coming out that have been coming out we have another one uh short like a little power bite style clip from
that episode drop in tomorrow at 9 a.m or today depending on what time you're listening to this
but yeah that and then today's podcast it's been one hell of a year guys
it's been amazing we're uh we're finishing up we've got like a couple more days here in this
month yeah so yeah i don't know two days right give or take i usually don't know what day 31
days or 30 days 29 31 okay so we have two days yeah two days yeah something like that but yeah
so we're looking at over 5.5 million downloads this year.
That's awesome.
And that was the year before.
Yeah.
Like 3.7.
Nice.
So we keep growing and upward.
Yeah.
And I don't want to like harp on COVID and all that stuff because we still,
we podcasted down there every single day,
but those first two
months before everything really hit i mean we shot out the gate like fucking just like a bat out of
hell and then you know people stopped commuting and the podcast did take a hit i'm not gonna act
like we didn't um downloads kind of that first month we're like what's going on and then eventually
we started getting the hang of things you know I never did full remote podcast before this year.
So there was a learning curve.
But then people started paying attention.
People started submitting comments saying, like, thank you guys for being the only thing that's on.
You know, like we.
Yeah, dude, we we made it through.
We we lifted through it.
Right.
But yeah, with the podcast. Yeah. And if people want to, you know, something to listen to that's not talking, you know,
constantly about negative bullshit, like the news is.
Right.
Come listen to our show.
We have a more positive message and we're just trying to help people move forward.
Yeah.
And we didn't shy away from rough topics.
Yeah.
You know, like I said, we had Batar on, but we had Daryl Davis on, you know, whatever the hell was going on. We, I don't want to say like, Oh, we just talked about
what everyone else was talking about. But when it comes to like other fitness related podcasts,
we were talking about everything else that everyone else wasn't, you know, nobody wanted
to touch some of those topics. And we did. Yeah. Right. It was pretty awesome. And I have one
thing that I'm very happy about just personally for the three of us is that I think that was the
first time that we started using Zoom for podcasts, right?
I don't remember doing that before that, right?
So we would occasionally, but I think I was still using Skype because I just didn't know
how to use Zoom.
Yeah.
But I mean, it was the first time that just like we did that from different places.
Sorry.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
No.
From different places.
Full remote podcast.
That was the first time.
And that's dope.
Like we can, if ever there's a time that we just just for some reason we just can't make it here we can exactly
it's pretty awesome yeah and got options and listening to you know other podcasts that we're
still trying to figure it out i was like oh my gosh like we sound better you know like the the
podcast sounds better and somebody that's that only pays attention to that on this you know side
of the table i'm
like sick like i'm happy that we were able to figure out a way how to make it work yeah yeah
so yeah 2021 we'll get a a whole new podcast setup hell yeah probably in like april or something i
don't know i'm not sure uh we'll see there's really no rush we just need to want to get one done so we're excited but
so we got that coming and then you know hopefully in 2021 we can get you know more great guests
not not to sell ourselves short but we also had a lot of great episodes this year so maybe Andrew
maybe in the show notes you can put a couple that you think were the most beneficial to people
but go back and you know really listen to some of these episodes there's there's so much great in the show notes, you can put a couple that you think were the most beneficial to people.
But go back and, you know, really listen to some of these episodes.
There's so much great information in them.
You're going to get a lot of nutrition.
You get a lot of training through some of the stuff from Mike Israetel, Stan Efferding,
even Eddie Hall and even Haptor Bjornsson and some of those guys.
I mean, we have some of the strongest people. We have some of the, uh, best talented people, uh, in specific fields on the show.
And, uh, we personally don't see huge difference between running the show ourselves versus having guests on, but I think it's important to shed light on guests and it's important to, uh, bring
you guys different information said differently from different people to give you a different experience rather than just us, you know, bullshitting.
And we think it's great that you like that.
And we will continue to do a lot of those shows, but we'll also continue to seek out some good guests and we'll see who we can come up with in 2021.
Yeah.
If you guys are here in the,
and whether it's the comments on YouTube or,
uh,
on the podcast app,
if you leave a review,
let us know your favorite episode of the year.
So if you did have a favorite guest,
write that down.
Cause I'm curious what you guys actually really liked this year.
That's actually very cool.
Yeah.
If you haven't this year,
if you haven't written a review just as a huge thank you for the entire year of content
that we've brought you guys could please leave us a review on itunes don't just star it actually
star it then write it and like yeah definitely put five stars but yeah let us know who your
favorite guest was this year and then maybe we'll just i don't know keep doing follow-ups with that
guest run it back yeah absolutely let's take us on out of here and yeah sure i absolutely
will um i definitely want to give a huge huge thank you to piedmontese to free sleeve and to
element electrolytes for sponsoring the podcast this year your guys support was incredible i mean
i don't know we we have i don't know how many free sleeves each
piedmontese kept us fed all year uh when pandemic struck and there was like no meat in the stores
they kept sending us meat so thank you guys so much joe everybody there at piedmontese you guys
are freaking awesome i'm currently drinking element electrolytes right now uh and so i i did
drink one of those rain orange sickle
and if it wasn't for this element i'd probably have a huge headache from all that caffeine
i'd be so dehydrated right now so anyways uh links to all of our our sponsors all three of them you
know we we try our best not to give you guys like a shit ton of ads before each episode so we try to
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Also, because they're just freaking great companies, great products.
We're not going to bring you some BS that we actually don't use and we don't believe
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So all links to those will be down in the YouTube and Facebook description, as well
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