Mark Bell's Power Project - EP. 493 - Should You Lean Into Your Weakness?

Episode Date: March 8, 2021

We have preached in the past about leaning into your strengths and leave your weaknesses behind for someone else to take care of. After speaking with Stuart McGill and Knees Over Toes Guy, maybe it's a good thing to acknowledge and lean into your weaknesses to improve them. Subscribe to the NEW Power Project Newsletter! ➢ https://bit.ly/2JvmXMb Subscribe to the Podcast on on Platforms! ➢ https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast Special perks for our listeners below! ➢LMNT Electrolytes: http://drinklmnt.com/powerproject ➢Piedmontese Beef: https://www.piedmontese.com/ Use Code "POWERPROJECT" at checkout for 25% off your order plus FREE 2-Day Shipping on orders of $99 ➢Sling Shot: https://markbellslingshot.com/ Enter Discount code, "POWERPROJECT" at checkout and receive 15% off all Sling Shots Follow Mark Bell's Power Project Podcast ➢ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ https://www.facebook.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/mbpowerproject ➢ LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/powerproject/ ➢ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/markbellspowerproject ➢TikTok: http://bit.ly/pptiktok FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell ➢ Snapchat: marksmellybell ➢Mark Bell's Daily Workouts, Nutrition and More: https://www.markbell.com/ Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/ Podcast Produced by Andrew Zaragoza ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz #PowerProject #Podcast #MarkBell

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like i was totally fine i remember that or as a kid you know i'd even like go to school without my mom would be like where's your jacket you know was always mad, but like you have to carry around some giant ass jacket and you're like, I don't want to carry this thing around. Or you wear your, your hoodie for a while. Then you start sweating your ass off. You know, you're just, it's hard to figure out what the hell to do with it. And I'd always lose stuff. Yeah.

When we went to Ohio and it was you and Jesse Burdick just had the AC blasting the whole time in the, uh, in the van. I don't think i've ever been that cold even like cryotherapy like because you're just in a van that's awesome a big van with the ac blasting for like you know in ohio it's not like you're oh let's go for a 15 minute drive from here to there no it's like fuck we're gonna be in this car for like four hours i'm just ac just going and i'm just like shivering. Andrew's joints are getting all stiff.

Exactly. It's like on Terminator when he like freezes him, the bad guy. And then he like breaks his leg as he's trying to walk. Oh, no, I don't remember this. Dude. Oh, that's a great scene. Yeah. Yeah.

His whole body starts to break down. Yeah. That freezes. That was me trying to get out as we got to the Football Hall of Fame. Germany or Two is so revolutionary. Dude, it's still a great movie. I got to watch it. Oh, yeah. We went to the Hall of Fame, the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

That was amazing. That was so cool. I missed out. I didn't even see the pictures. Lots of red and gold in there. Yeah. Blew my mind. Yeah.

Very cool. I think the cold built more resilient people. Like you look at Russians. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You look at fucking Germans. Is it cold in Germany? Probably. I think it gets colder. Let me just think about

the biology of it. When it's warm and it's hot, you just want to sit and everything's just hanging even. Naturally, everything just hangs a little lower and it's cold. I mean hot. even you know just naturally everything just hangs a little lower and it's cold and when it i mean hot and when it's cold you just gotta you know everything just comes up and things hanging lower yes when it's warmer yeah it's mega warmer turn the heat don't tell you whatever makes it look bigger right i mean i've been trying to yank on it

and punch it for a long time that you know are we still talking about the same thing or not Yes You know what I was thinking this morning And we don't need to talk about it on this episode But I don't feel like I don't feel like there's ever been a Power Project episode Where we talked about like you know

Advice for intercourse Potentially I think that's a big part of health I mean Carl and Orr. What is it? Sex, sunlight, and whatever, something? Like, one day we should have somebody on that's an expert there. We should have an intercourse. We shouldn't have intercourse on the podcast.

Oh. But. I was getting all revved up. We should definitely get a shadow band on YouTube. At will. I mean, even Dr. Stuart McGill, he was just like, he was like, you know, he made a guide for the greatest positions so you don't break your back. And blow your shit out.

Yeah, exactly. Right. So cool. I think this is, it's such an important part of life. Not today, but one day. There's a lot to go over and getting in the butt can be difficult. So, you know, we can, we can go back. There's a lot of tips for that.

That's probably the masterclass. That'll be in our email. we should have a newsletter for that yeah exclusively for that coconut we'll have to bring some uh i'm done i'm done we'll have to bring some guests on the show and we'll figure it out from there from different professions so you know the hot dog thing that hey yo this is horrible i hate situations in life when you can't act like an adult like i can hate it like you just keep laughing so you know i had issues with my sleep and i had to get fitted for a mouthpiece right well they do like a 3D rendering of your face, you know, and they get images of your teeth from all these different angles, right?

Yeah. Well, they're sticking this like phallic symbol, you know, right down my throat. For some of it, it was fine. It was like up against my teeth. It was up against my cheeks. My mouth was closed, and I wasn't even like thinking about what's coming next. They're like, open up, you know, like opening up my mouth and like stuffing this and so i just kept laughing yeah and it's you know dr gould and he's like he's like i know i know he goes listen he's like we're gonna make

it through this you know we're gonna make it but all this thing is like you guys watching going the entire time i mean who wouldn't i don't think even when i get so much older i'll never be able to become mature enough where that doesn't make me laugh right right terrible like poop's gonna make me laugh for the rest of my life right same thing with anything phallic i'm gonna chuckle i'm adult. Sorry. Everything's kind of a penis. Everything. Even these mics. Yeah. These big black mics.

They turn. Yeah. Can I get a hey now? Hey now. And I'm so comfortable right up next to him. Right? We're just like speaking into it every day. Yeah.

I loved on Superbad when he's like, do you know what? Which foods are shaped like dicks? He's like, you know what which foods are shaped like dicks he's like the best kinds that seems too much oh man yeah no poop you think poop's funny i'm so oh god the picture you sent me maybe we do we want to bring up no i don't want to bring up the image okay maybe not it was a lot of shit so i was doing a fast let's start off with that yep and uh i was trying to figure out how to ease my way from the fast to eating and i did like what i was instructed to do like you know i did what i was supposed to do i had like some bone broth and eased my way out of it sort of, but I was pretty hungry.

So I just kept eating, you know? So I had like, I don't know, I had like three meals within, um, they weren't like huge meals, but I had three meals within like a three hour time span. Yeah.

And, uh, anyway, for the next couple of days, I was just on the toilet quite a bit. Every, uh, so it was a one-to-one ratio.

Every time i ate i took a shit yep and i'm i was supposed i'm supposed to take a shit and send it to gabriel lion because i got a lot of blood work done recently and i'm just trying to i don't know i'm just trying to look into like my health overall i'm trying to figure out stuff with my sleep and i'm just gabrielle suggested it so i I'm like, sure, I'll do, you know, whatever, whatever the doctor orders, you know? So I'm like, well, I don't want to send her any of these poops because they're not like, they're not full poops yet. They're like just, you know, they're just, you know, from fasting poops, you know? They're quick and they're.

You want to send her an impressive. Yeah, yeah. They're a little. I'm going to send this to Gabrielle. Yeah, yeah, exactly. They're a little bit liquidy, you know? I i'm like i want to send her like a manly shit and uh so i waited it yeah i waited a couple days and then it's like monday morning or something and now my stomach is fine like everything's uh you know going normal but when you get like this poop

kit anybody who's ever had to do this it's it's the most absurd most archaic thing ever you get like this little container that's about the size of this mind bullet capsule thing and and then you get a spoon and it comes in this like cold pack thing when you're like i like this what's what's the spoon for the fuck am i doing like what's going on with this thing i certainly can't shit into this tiny little container. Like, that's not going to work very good. And then Gabrielle's like, well, you could put, like, saran wrap on, like, the toilet bowl, you know? And then you can kind of, like, poop onto that, you know?

Because it didn't, like, I'm like, there's no invention. There's no, like, yeah, there's no thing to catch it or anything. I'm like, what's no invention. There's no like basket. Yeah, there's yeah, there's no thing to catch it or anything. I'm like, what the you know? So anyway, I shit on this saran wrap that's covering my toilet. And I was like, wow. I'm like, I think that was like, you know, quite the dump. You know, I turn around and I just started laughing hysterically. Could you just give the people a hand size, please? I mean, it

looked like a two pound steak. It looked like a cow patty. It was like this big. God dang, man. And because it was like just so grotesque and stuff, I was like, oh my God, I'm like, I just need to get through this. And I was like, I have to take a picture. Yeah, you do.

I'm like, I absolutely have to take a picture. And so I took a picture of it. And luckily, Encima got to check it out. Yeah, yeah. You sent it to me. And you filtered it, too. You made it look all like, you know, a little bit nice and stuff. I like it.

Yeah, you got to get the right lighting and everything. It was impressive. But man, it was a pile of shit. It looked like a cow patty. You ever seen like when cows take a shit? It's like a big mountain. Yeah, it's a big stacked up mountain. It looked like that when you said it was big i was expecting like a long you know a long thick something i wasn't you saw it too right i didn't see it yet no dude it legit you can bring

it up i don't care can you email it to me yeah i'll um you want me to email it yeah it's just easier okay i will i'll email it to you but it legit like just looked like this thick yeah like just a thick mound and like a big thing like pudding okay now i'm so curious because sometimes when you take a big poop like when you feel you're like whoo hefty but that one it wasn't like it it wasn't like this it was like this so how did that come out of you like did you just expand i don't yeah did you i don't know i think my butthole dilated you know and uh opened up man i don't know it was it was crazy oh man that's amazing that's awesome i mean i think it was coming out with some sort of shape but i think because it got caught by the saran wrap that it kind of piled on top of itself, you know?

Yeah. Andrew, I'll also email it to you. It was disgusting. Like, I had to spoon it out. Yeah, that's, I'm curious. I mean, not curious. I don't really care, but like. If you spoon out, like, butter, you know, like, in your cooking or something, what do

you do? You just flick it off of your finger and you lick the butter, right? This is shit, though. You can't do stuff like that. So I had, like, a bunch of, like, Clorox out and stuff because i'm like just trying to like kill the smell but you can't kill the smell oh i would say that makes it worse you can't kill the smell i don't know if you can but the question is is like who hasn't taken a picture because i know that every time that i've had a really impressive one i take a picture every time like i i should make a folder because it's all like randomly throughout my camera roll but i have pictures of all of my

really impressive what about like just a really like crazy like blowout sometimes it's a good take pictures i've sent them to your friends where you just like you you splattered the whole like you you're like you're not even sure how you did it i do that whole back of the toilet is splattered you're like i don't know what the fuck i'll send i'll send stephanie a picture of like the top like the lid but like very very high up and i'm like i don't know how my poop can defy gravity but like i'm aiming downwards i'm not like need like forensic science on that shit like like put you know strings together from your butthole to like where it splattered and stuff like that. That's happened. This might be why

I'm single because maybe I just have a tendency of sending my big poops to my partner. I think if you lean forward too far. Oh, you got it! He brought it up! He brought it up! Yo! Yo! Mark, again, show them how big that is with your hands yeah probably like probably like yay yo like a two pound steak how did that come out of your butt bro like how did you push

that out i don't get it it's in the saran wrap nothing beats the saran wrap dude that is a great commercial for whatever brand saran wrap that is because glad or whatever that is hanging in there yep oh my gosh if any of you guys are disgusted just think of it like a nougat you know it's just like a chocolate nougat and it's not as disgusting that looks like that kind of looks like a human like just like like i'm just saying like when you look at it it's just like there's two legs it's like a much that's something you would see in san francisco it's a big old human yeah street like oh uh did have any of you guys seen uh good burger by any chance keenan cow yeah yeah so i've never seen it i saw it yesterday and like the uh Mondo burger Yeah, how it gets like injected with that that shit and then it like expands. I don't remember looks just like that Oh, that's I have to pull up a video, but I'm curious what I'm gonna learn from this poop and what Gabrielle's gonna do with it

This is Monday morning for you, right? Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah, insane we both had monday morning texture oh man yeah there's like a peanut in there a walnut this is why people don't watch this show i know this is why people don't watch this show it kind of looks like melted ice cream it really does yeah it looks like melted chocolate it has shape you know like it's pretty smooth it's like shiny man i wish you got more angles though like with something like this you got to take it from you got to like try to get all the angles i should have took it i should have took a video of it that would have shown because then you could compare it to like the actual toilet bowl yeah that's you you have to you have to do that because then you can be like

oh wow this is actually pretty huge i don't think i'll get a second chance you know it'll happen one day just do another five day fast and kind of recreate exactly what you did with this one so you can get that it's amazing i just love the fact that maybe there's somebody out there it's like oh my god the knees over toes guy was awesome i'm gonna subscribe and then this is gonna check out oh they're live and then they stumble upon this oh god like oh i've found literally the best podcast on the planet. It's all downhill. I'm not even going to go into what my poop was on that day because

that's too much poop talk. We need to move on to something else? We need to move on to something more important. It's just so much poop. I don't want to do it. So what do you think of the knees over toes guy? Oh, man. And then also, you know, we had Stuart McGill on. Some of these and then also you know had stewart mcgill on like some of these uh guests

are um you know they're they they have similar messages right yeah so as far as ben's concerned like i've been paying attention to his content for a while because of my knee uh my like my right knee like you you've seen it you were in the gym once when i was doing leg extensions and i'm like i can barely do 10 pounds on my right leg so So I don't even mess with this anymore. So as an athlete, I felt like it was just a big limiting factor and seeing this content, I'm like, let me see if I can fix this. And yo, a lot of the stuff that he does, it's very unconventional. It's not stuff you see from most people, but it's been so helpful. Like I did, I jumped in the gym the other day because I haven't jumped in the long, I haven't jumped in a long time.

It's usually pretty painful for me to put that much force through my foot. And first off I jumped, it was a decent jump, but it was also painless. And this, this stability I'm feeling now is great. I just love, um,

how like that's his focus. And, and the constant he puts out is just based around that. And I think that the great thing though is like for a lot of athletes especially power lifters um the stability of the knee it's it's it's something that i mean you don't really pay much attention to because you're squatting you're doing all these different movements so you don't really do those small things but if you were to strengthen the tendons in your knee as you continue to get stronger, right?

Think about how much injury that you would potentially not have to deal with in the future because you just have strong joints. And then think about when you get like the big thing I think about is when I'm 50, 60, 70, right? Like there's this guy, George Hammerschmidt or whatever. Here's the Hackenschmidt. Hackenschmidt. Yeah. You got up there, dude. Whoop.

Yeah. Nice. Ben said he guessed that that was around 35 inches. So I want to get it measured in a few weeks to actually see what it's at. But I want to be able to jump and squat and be explosive in my 70s. And I think it's very possible, but you got to do stuff like what he's talking about. That was a high jump, dude. Dude, I didn't think I'd be able to, like, I didn't think I'd even be able to jump high.

But it's just like, I feel bouncy now. I feel so bouncy. It makes sense, your, you know, strength to body weight ratio, even though you weigh a lot, is high. Which is rare for people that are, you know, anyone is usually like people that are over like 220. It's kind of rare for them to have a good strength to weight ratio. We only see it once in a while with like bodybuilders, some powerlifters where a powerlifter could be, you know, 280 pounds and they go to do a set of pull-ups and they bust out like 15 perfect reps. And you're like, dang. You're like, oh, shit.

Like efforting is like that. Oh, yeah. Efforting is, Stan Efforting is very, like, springy. Especially, you know, he's not young. When he started breaking all-time world records in powerlifting, he was, like, two years older than I am right now. Which is pretty crazy. He was, like, 46 years old. But, you know, it's really interesting to watch, you know, you hear Stuart McGill. Stuart McGill is not against deadlifting. He's for it.

Like, he talked about his testing ground is a weight room. And he talked about the importance of being able to deadlift. But he also talked about the reinforcement of having good form and technique. And so he wants you to lift, but he wants you to lift under kind of a certain set of rules. You're not going to like, you're not going to really like overdo it. But if you listen to the episode with Stuart McGillcgill and you listen to knees over toes guy ben um you would notice a similarity in that okay ben is talking about the knees stewart mcgill is talking about the lower back both guys are talking about leaning into that and saying, yeah, you're hurt there because you're weak.

Both guys did mention mobility. They both mentioned flexibility. They did mention that they feel that mobility movements and stretching can be useful. And so that should be something that you should look into too, because a lot of times that can be a real detrimental thing. But normally it's like, normally it's a weakness. be a real detrimental thing, but normally it's like, it normally it's a weakness. And so many of us build up certain strengths that were like, I'm not, you know, I'm strong,

you know, I can squat this amount of weight. But if you go back to, you know, uh, something that was said by Greg Glassman, the, uh, guy who started the CrossFit movement, he said, show me someone that can squat 600 pounds and I'll show you somebody that's going to struggle to run a mile. You know, show me someone that can run a, show me someone that can run a five or six minute mile. And I'm going to show you someone that's going to get crushed under 600. You know, there are people that exist that can do both. But his point is, is that when you start to try to master one thing, another thing could be really be falling apart. And that's what these guys were pointing out.

And so it's hard, it's hard to work on like the thing that you suck at. Oh, it hurts my knee a lot. You know, imagine if you just got advice from somebody that some random kid in the gym, 18 years old, been lifting for just a couple of weeks or maybe just a couple of

months. Uh, and you're, you're there like trying leg extensions and you're like, no, I can't, can't do these. And if some kids like, yo, actually your knee, your knees are actually weak. You need to do more, uh, leg extensions. You need to do more stuff for your knees. You'd be like, get the fuck out of here. You don't know what you're talking about.

Um, but what makes it so useful coming from these guys I mean Stuart McGill's been studying it for 5,000 years so obviously he knows exactly what he's doing that was like subtle shade saying he's old well he's got that beautiful gray curly mustache going on over there

we'll have to have him on the show again but Ben is someone who is like almost paralyzed by it at least from a mental standpoint it sounded like you know without without having some uh great parents it sounds like he would have been long gone sound like he would have sound like he would have never recovered from it sounds like he would have uh just been like yeah my knees hurt who knows what what would have happened to him he's in great shape He's strong. I would imagine that he'd be depressed. He'd probably be obese.

He'd probably just be, you know, floundering around and not have much of a life purpose. But look at the guy now. We couldn't shut the guy up. He was here for like 10 hours. He talked the whole time and he shot like 11 videos for us, you know. It was unbelievable. If there's an example of what good parenting, good parenting can do. I mean, Ben's a great example because like all the stuff he mentioned about his mom

and like how she's analyzing his business and the same thing with his dad. Like he had support, like as, as a what five foot 11, six foot white guy, I want to be in the NBA. And your parents like, go for it,

buddy. Like that's, that's awesome. No, that's really awesome. But, um, one thing that I was thinking when you're, you're, you're mentioning that stuff about Ben is that like, I think the, the thing that that's a little scary for strength athletes or bodybuilders is you get

so good at doing this thing or you build a good amount of strength in your deadlift or whatever. Right. And you, you might feel this, this bit of weakness, like the weakness that I felt in my right knee and doing a simple, you know, simple knee flexion, right. To a, even if it's not to like a down to a box, but knee flexion to like a box, it's like 14 inches is painful. It it's kind of disheartening to even do that initial thing. Cause you're like, like ah this simple thing hurts but i can squat 400 pounds f it i don't need to do this right but if you think about if you're able to slowly get yourself and it's not like you need to be a jack-of-all-trades and do all these different things but if you're able to strengthen that one part of your body think

about the long-run effects of what that could do for you and your squad think about all of the injury that you'll be able to potentially prevent in the future because your tendons are strong and your knees are strong and your joints are strong. Because of this very simple, easy work that you can do for it. I think that it just makes sense. It's not like you're trying to go out and run a mile. That's going to get in the way of your sport. You're not trying to be a jack of all trades, but these things are really simple additions

that you can add to your program. That's just going to make you such a better athlete. It gets me so excited thinking about all the people who are going to like pay attention to that podcast. I had a buddy send me some videos. He's Darrington Wright. Darrington Wright. He's a pretty strong lifter, very strong lifter.

Actually works with Chris Duffin and he was doing the Patrick step ups. And he's like, fuck, this kind of hurts one of my knees, but I'm excited to see what happens in a few months. And he's already super strong. Seeing that type of stuff makes me super happy. Yeah. What's the opportunity? You know, there's probably a huge opportunity.

what's the opportunity? You know, there's probably a huge opportunity. Um, I think about, you know, just employment here at slingshot and some of the, the different strengths and weaknesses of, uh,

the people that have been working here for a while and to watch them, to watch, you know, we've talked about Ryan Soper all the time, you know, the improvements that he's made, um, you know,

editing and filming, they weren't really, I wouldn't really say there were weaknesses of his. They were just things that he didn't have a lot of practice with. But I think ultimately sometimes that is what we're talking about. Like, we're not really advocating that you go and pick all the things you're the worst at because that's very time consuming. You know, I know Nsema is not a huge fan of running. Like, what are the reasons, you know, What are the reasons you'd have someone run? We need to figure out how would we have running

assist you? Well, if COVID-19 shut down all the jujitsu facilities and you had no other way to train, maybe some sort of running would be useful. Maybe walk-run, maybe have running hills running would be useful. Maybe a walk, run, maybe have a running hills here and there. Like maybe that would be a decent idea just for conditioning, but you don't have a conditioning problem. You're, you're not, you're not overweight. Like there's no, there's not really a good reason for you to run. Yeah. So we're not necessarily talking about, or if you absolutely hate, you know, being in the heat and running, or you hate being in the cold and you hate you hate like it's we're not really advocating that you just take the things that you hate and make you the most uncomfortable all the time.

But things where you do have a glaring weakness, things where there's a lot of times where there's pain on the other side of that, you'll find your purpose. You'll find like what it is that you what it is that you you're good at what it is you're gifted at and sometimes some of these things are just things that we just haven't somebody will say oh you know i really really suck at the squat and it's like how do you train your squat like why are you good at bench pressing and dead lifting but can you can we apply something similar to what you're doing on those other lifts because i i'm pretty sure if you just spent more time there. Now, the amount of time that you have to spend on that particular lift might be double or triple than what the next guy has to do. And that's where you start to think, oh, man, well, that's kind of unfair.

And that's this, that's that. But people that are great, they do things regardless of how long it takes. They're not thinking about, oh, man, this sucks. I had to be at jujitsu practice for four hours and I still can't keep up with Nsema. Well, you might have to go twice a day for four hours for many, many, many years to figure it out. Maybe the guys that you're going against aren't as strong. Maybe they're not as quick. Maybe they don't have all the background you have with soccer. The agility, right? So there's so many different factors and I can be

complaining. I can say, man, I just keep getting hurt. I'm never going to catch up to them. I got to practice forever. But if I want to be a black belt and I want to be the best fighter in that school or the best jujitsu practitioner in that school, I'm not thinking about that. or the best jujitsu practitioner in that school, I'm not thinking about that. I'm like, I'm just going to, I'm going to continue to work until I,

I see improvement every single day. And eventually I've just am hopeful that he slows down a bit, that he doesn't improve quite as much. Maybe he's not as open-minded and maybe one day I get the opportunity to catch him off guard or something like that. But this dude, what you're mentioning there is, so let me, let me mention on the jujitsu side of things. It's understood well.

Jujitsu athletes know that if I strength train, or a majority of them know at this point from seeing guys compete that if I strength train, it's going to help me to be better on the mats. But the big thing that I think strength training does is it helps you prevent injury. It gets you stronger. So when you get in all these weird positions, the mats but the big thing that i think strength training does is it helps you prevent injury it gets you stronger so when you get in all these weird positions you're less likely to fuck something

up in your shoulder your elbow or whatever right but there's still like i still know so many people who because they're not adept in the gym or because they haven't lifted you know much in the past they're still very scared of going and training. I don't know. Well, yeah, I do think I should use the word scared because it's something different and something new. And that's the same thing on the lifting side. I think that a lot of power lifters,

because they don't do cardio much or they don't know how it's going to affect them, they're scared of doing a little bit of conditioning, even though at this point we know that some conditioning is going to help you as far as your recovery as a lifter. Adding that in, it's uncomfortable, you're not the greatest at it, you're not even probably good at it, will help you as a lifter, but they'd still stay away from it because it's not something they're good at. I think in those cases it is necessary to lean into something that you kind of suck at because even getting as a jujitsu athlete, even getting kind of strong, even getting just a little bit strong, be able to squat 140, 135 pounds, that's going to absolutely

benefit you. But you got to do that thing that you have no experience in and that you really suck at. You just kind of have to do it. If you look at, you know, if you look at Ben, um, you know, without training, without weight training and,

his basketball background, he would probably be kind of a skinny nerd, you know, kind of, kind of be like a skinny, you know, skinny dork, right?

Maybe he wouldn't even have enough confidence in himself to speak the way that he does to come onto this podcast and do a lot of the things that he does. But because he lifts and because he was able to pick his shirt up and be like, hey, it's fucking shredded. Like I fit in with you guys. Like, check this out. You know, he's yeah, he's completely shredded. Those things, they all help. You know, they may make you feel more substantial.

And maybe maybe somebody is not really eager to listen to him at first, but then maybe they see a video and they're like, Oh, like, shit, he's got like a six pack. And that at least tells you like, he's, he's, he's participating in the game, you know, he's participating and he's and he's doing really well with it. And then if you were to see him squat and you were seeing the move, you might not think he's the strongest person you've ever seen, but you recognize that it takes a crazy amount of strength to be able to do some of these things. Also, he can ball. Oh, yeah. I don't know.

He's insane, yeah. There's YouTube videos of him playing basketball with somebody. That man can wreck people. You're saying he beats NBA guys often. I'm not surprised. When you see the shit he does, he can fucking ball. It's scary. It's scary. Yeah, he he can dribble all kinds of stuff but it's very obvious that he spent a lot of time uh doing these things he thinks about these things a lot and his weakness maybe as a kid uh was maybe he was kind of scrawny maybe he was kind of overly like mobile and maybe some of these things are things that uh led to some of these weaknesses where he wasn't strong in these positions because his body would just kind of, uh, move around like a flamingo or a baby giraffe. Right. And he was

kind of just, uh, you know, fall into these positions and just didn't have a lot of, uh, didn't, didn't have a lot of strength, but he worked on areas where he's weak and he spent a lot of time there and i mean for myself with you know building business and like i i still the slingshot is a unique thing i don't know if i'll ever have another idea that's quite like that because of like where it took me from to where i am now sort of thing. Like, so that amount of growth is, is, is a lot, but I do think the stuff that I have coming up,

I do think that these things are going to double where I'm currently at, where this company is currently at. A lot of that has to do with practicing, being more intellectual, studying, having a white belt mentality. Um, I do suck at reading. So maybe someone could say, oh, I'd probably help a lot if you read more.

But I just, I have ways around reading because I don't enjoy it. I never got really good enough at it or concentrated enough on it to be able to get a lot from it and get a lot out of it. So I find like, okay, I can still, and Seema mentioned this guy or mentioned this book, I can YouTube that and I can get similar information for me. So my point here is that I still worked on a lot of weaknesses. I always felt dumb. I felt stupid. I felt like I couldn't learn certain things.

I didn't necessarily go the traditional route, but I went a route that could work for me. And now people are like, oh my God, that's brilliant. Oh my oh my god that's i can't believe that's genius how did you think of that how are you so creative and you can't be creative without knowledge like you you um it's a misconception sometimes people will say that creativity is more important than knowledge but you you actually have to know shit in order to invent and create something. Otherwise, otherwise you'll just copy people. That's all you'll be able to do because you, you won't be able to foresee, uh, anything that's exceptional or anything that is a unique. I think that's a very interesting thing that you're mentioning there because like, uh, like let's say you're, you're a lifter and you're very, you know, you're very good at bodybuilding, you're very good at powerlifting.

So you have a growth mindset when it comes to powerlifting. You know, hey, I can get stronger. If I do this enough, I can get better. I absolutely can. I 100% believe I can do it. But then when it comes to whatever you do for work or trying to learn something new, you shy away from it because you're like, oh, no, I can't do that. Or, no, my body can't do that or whatever. So it's very easy to have a growth mindset in certain aspects of what you do in certain aspects of your life.

But then turn around and then you have this fixed mindset as far as doing something that is opposite of what you're kind of good at. And that's really common because you hear a lot of, like we talk about all of the things that fitness and being healthy and bodybuilding, you can learn from it. That consistency every day, going and training, getting stronger, getting bigger. But we really have to be real and take that and really apply it to other parts of our lives.

Because I mean, it's, it's often that you like, you see someone who's like really big, really strong, a bodybuilder, but then all these other parts of their life are in shambles because they haven't taken the,

the, the lessons from bodybuilding. They haven't taken the lessons from the gym and they haven't, they haven't, they don't have the belief in themselves to apply the, the skill that they have there. It's every other part of their life. And we got to do that. or they have like living conditions that you would just think that you would be in that spot when you're a lot younger. Things like that. Like they just they haven't they haven't put everything together. And it's understandable.

Like life's a fucking pain in the ass. So it makes a lot of sense. But you're like, man, like the guy, he figured out this. He's an excellent coach. He's an excellent trainer. He figured out how to get this perfect physique. He's fucking winning power lifting meets all the time he's breaking all-time world records and then you're like oh man i you

know i hope that one day it all clicks for him and he's able to kind of bring everything together because doing that shit isn't easy that's the thing like all that fitness stuff there is a reason why a majority of the population is out of shape it doesn't do that it's hard you're like a one percenter you are in that regard in that regard now can we take that what you're doing there and can you take all the lessons and can you just use it for something else can you have that growth mindset with all these other things i think that like i was thinking about this yesterday you don't have to be great at the other things but just knowing that you could be a little bit better yes and believing that you can be a little bit better because i think that a lot of people don't actually believe that they can be better in these realms so they don't think that

they can learn these things because it's too hard or too complex or it'll take too long right and then also like if you are terrible at whatever it is it's you can make improvement pretty quickly you know what i mean like if you're at zero to get to one percent better it actually doesn't take that long and then you can be like oh shit i actually can get better you know what i think like yes you can get better and this reminds me of a conversation i was having with a friend the other day and she was mentioning how like all through childhood like she would always be told how smart she was right and and and she she would always be told how smart she was, right? And she would always be told about how she could pick things up so quickly.

But when she became an adult, it got hard for her to do new things. Because if she wasn't immediately good at it, or if she didn't have it click for her, she'd be like, God dang it. I got this. I'm probably, I probably shouldn't be doing this. I don't have this innate talent.

I'm not already good. I can't do it. And now it's like, she lives in this currently. She's like in this consistent fear of, of doing these things because, because she doesn't have this innate talent that everyone from ever since she was a kid, she was told she had, she was told she was smart. She was told like you're talented and all of this.

But now when you're trying to do something new, you don't have, you know, it doesn't, you don't click, you don't have an innate talent. You're not good at it. Right. That's another place you don't want to be. I feel like for us that have been in fitness culture, I've been doing sports since I was a kid. Right. So maybe there is some talent that lies culture, I've been doing sports since I was a kid, right? So maybe there is some talent that lies there since I've been doing it for so long.

But now, let's say I want to pick up something else and learn something else that's totally opposite. I cannot take that whatever, like the talent or whatever, and I can't let that stop me from going towards this because I don't have an innate talent or skill or gift for it. There's a lot of people that believe they're smarter than they actually are. And there's people on the other side of that as well. So like Elon Musk, he would admit that he's smart. You know, he would admit that he's sharp. Um, but he would also admit that there's so much shit that he doesn't know. Cause that's how fucking smart he is. That's how much stuff that he knows. He knows that he doesn't know.

He knows there's a lot of information out there that he doesn't know. And so he might speak in a way where he's way more humble than some, you know, a college kid that's talking about the same subject. And you're like, how can that be? I think it's called like the Dunning Kruger effect or something like that. If I remember reading about it and hearing about it in the past.

But a lot of people, when they feel like they're smarter than they really are, they have a tendency to rest and to not create and to not question and to not, you know, dig deeper into how they can get better. Because they already are the best. They're already really good at what they do um and you hear people say stuff like this sometimes like you'll hear them flat out say and and i think it's good to have confidence but you'll sometimes hear someone say uh oh i'm really i'm really good you know and you're like you're like that was interesting like they are they are pretty good at that but like i know some other people too that are probably quite a bit better and i've never heard them speak that way before like i i've never heard nsema say i'm really good at like bro like my jujitsu is fucking sick you know what i mean like and even if you won world

or something like it would be less likely that you would say that rather than more likely. Yeah. If, if you're like, you know, white belt and you pulled off a couple of good moves at practice, then that's when, that's when you might hear it from somebody,

right? Somebody thinking that they're better. Cause they, maybe they picked it up a little quicker than the next guy. Yeah. And like, man, these other white belts in the class,

they suck. I'm, I'm trashing all of them, you know, but in the grand scheme of things, it's like, man, you just got started. Like you don't know anything about what's going on here.

I think there's like, um, you know, when, when you, when you get to a certain point or a certain age, you start to lose confidence to do or learn new things. It's like 25, 26. If you don't know enough about something, you're like, ah, then there's no reason for me to even try. Right. That's why it's like, I think that instead of thinking about that, you should think about how much time you actually have to learn that thing.

Like, let's say you're really interested in philosophy, like really just deep philosophy and you're 26 years old. Right. And you know that, you know, you watch videos and you see these freaking 18 year olds and 20 year olds talking deep about all this stuff. You're like, ah, shoot, they're so young. They already know this much. There's no reason for me to take that up. Right. But you have what statistically like 40 more years to learn about that thing. Think about where you could be three years from now or two years from now. If you just do a little bit every day, same thing with your fitness. I think that when people get at a certain point, they're like, God, I see these

20 year olds or 18 year olds that are in such great shape. They can do all these crazy things. Why should I pick this up now? Like it's too late for me, but it really isn't because you have the rest of your life to pick this shit up. You got the, like if you're 25 years old and you're out of shape if you spend 10 years lifting or five years lifting or even freaking three years lifting you could be in pretty amazing shape by the time you're 28 and everyone's going to be like oh that dude's probably or that woman's been probably been doing this since she was a kid i know people i legit know people like that right so instead of thinking about how late you are in the game think about how much time you have to put into the game yeah and then also like

think about like any whatever it is that you like um i always bring back everything to video games as much as i can because i'm a fan but your favorite video games were the ones that were pretty hard you know like that were a challenge um and i know for me personally like whenever when i was a kid like i would see a challenge i'd just be like i'm gonna go this way instead i did take the easy route which i didn't but yeah thinking about it like you know video games like whenever you put in a cheat code and you beat the game oh that was cool and it's not fun anymore but you know when so just as an example with this you know like yeah in three years you could be a different person.

It's not going to be the easiest thing, but it's not impossible. And you can get started right now and, you know, make huge, huge progress. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you just loved winning so much, I mean, you'd play basketball against like a six-year-old kid and just steal the ball from him and block the shot. You'd be the coolest guy out there. And you just keep, you know, smoking them, but it's not fun for him. It's not challenging for you, and therefore you don't really get anywhere,

and you're certainly not going to really learn much from that. Maybe the six-year-old kid does. Maybe he learns how to not get the ball stolen from him, and maybe he becomes pretty good, but you're not going to really advance. And I think it's easy to kind of stick to really advance. And I think, you know, it's easy to, you know, kind of stick to the things that are, that feel simple enough to you, that feel easy enough to you. But, uh, in the long run, you're going to have to expand out and do things that are more challenging to your point about the amount of time that it takes. I mean, we get

taught this right away when you, when you start lifting, you know, you just, it's embarrassing how long the whole process takes. Um, it's embarrassing how long the whole process takes. Um, it's embarrassing how naive we are in the beginning. You're like, I've been working out for three weeks, man. I haven't noticed anything. And when you're a kid, like you might notice like, you know, soreness and you might notice cause you can get gains pretty quick. You might, if your intent is to gain weight, you know, in a three, in a three week process, you could have gained like three or four pounds. Like shit happens, you know, really, really fast. It wouldn't be muscle obviously,

but your, your, uh, your gains, your newbie gains, uh, come really quickly. But to think that you're going to have like a body transformation in a month or two months or three months, it's going to take, it's going to take a long time and you're going to need to know what you're, what you're doing. And it's, it's, a, it's a difficult process, but lifting is like, you know, it takes so long to get strong, to, to really acquire a good amount of strength. It takes a long time to build muscle mass to the point where it transforms your body into where it is, uh, like compound an interest for your body. Like it, it's something that you work towards for a long time and now it's paying off big time every day because if you wanted some wiggle room with your diet, you could have it. You could now have 2,500 calories as opposed to before where you can

only have about 2000 calories. You have more muscle mass on you, but the whole story of it is not really very attractive. You know, you, you have to work out four days a week. You know, each training session needs to be probably about 30 to 45 minutes on the low end. Um, you need to challenge yourself. You need to have weights, uh, be heavier. You need to do, you know, you need to mix things up a bit. Um, and then even with all that, you know, your, your eating has to be on point and things like that. Even with all these things said, there's still no guarantee that you're really going to look that different. And there's certainly no guarantee that you're going to look anything like somebody who's genetically predisposed to gaining some muscle mass.

That other person is still going to be way further ahead. You might have to spend five years to look the way someone else and might only took them two years. Absolutely. Discouraging. It really can be, but you know, that's where you just, you can't get caught up in the comparison trap.

Like it doesn't matter if I've been interested in a, what electric cars or like that type of concept since I was a kid, doesn't mean I'm going to be as smart as Elon Musk. Right. So you like, if, if we can't, I think that that's the thing. type of concept since i was a kid doesn't mean i'm gonna be as smart as helen musk right so you like if if we can't i think that that's the thing like we were more uh we tend to try to compare ourselves physically more to like people rather than we don't compare ourselves mentally to other individuals like we'll try to take on something and we'll try to learn about it but we're not saying hey there are all these brilliant people here and there's no way I'm gonna be as smart as them so I can't do it

But when you look at lifting that's a big discourager for some people like I'm not gonna look like mark I'm not gonna look like this guy. So why try or why should I even put in that effort? I think when it comes to the intellectual side, I think that we don't really We don't really think about genetics. We don't, it's not really talked about that much. I mean, I guess it's quite obvious that, uh, you know, Albert Einstein was probably predisposed to be able to learn some of these things on top of being brilliant person on top of spending a lot of time thinking about all these things. But, you know, why is it that he was like pulling away from a uh like a railroad station

uh on on a train seeing a light that he figured out i forget it was e equals mc squared or what it was but he had some sort of fucking revolutionary thing by looking at a goddamn light you know um there's there's a genetic potential in there somewhere on top of you know practice and on top of uh you know being a different kind of thinker but it is interesting that we don't we don't really apply that to uh you know albert einstein or elon musk or any of these guys they're all brilliant people for a bunch of different reasons their environment their genetics and the stuff they worked on for a really long time and that's going to be the determining factor for anyone being successful at anything.

And I think that's like, also, you know, you, you talk about like being, going in on the things that you're actually interested in doing. Right. But just because you're interested in it doesn't mean that you have talent in it. Doesn't mean that you, um, are innately good at it. Doesn't mean that you pick it up quickly right just because you're interested in it I was interested in jiu-jitsu when I started I was getting fucked up for years like people that were smaller than me were messing me up consistently I was interested in it and I really liked it but I didn't have an innate talent it didn't click for me quickly but I just spent the time to learn it and get better at it over time. And I think that's just one thing you got to realize, like

go in on your interests, but do not expect it to be easy in any sense. It shouldn't like, I mean, not that it shouldn't be easy if it's easy for you to pick up great. But at the same time, if it's not, you just have to stick with it. You really do just have to stick with it for a good period of time. And how interested are you in it? You know, like my level of commitment to powerlifting was high. My interest level was really high, but I didn't do everything I could to be better. I didn't, I didn't try to figure out my sleep. I ignored it.

I thought like, I'll just be a warrior and I'll just, it won't bother me. And I never really knew it to bother me, but could I have been better? Fuck yeah. I could have been way better. Uh, I didn't work on mobility. Um, I did some stuff here and there, but not, not enough. Um, and then what does that mean? Like that just, that's, I mean, you have to be honest with yourself and say, that just

means that I wasn't as interested as I thought I was. But I mean, that's what it means. Cause there's other guys out there that are doing it. There's other people out there that are making sure that everything is taken. Like remember Matt Vincent, when he was competing in Highland games, remember those videos he would post of him, uh, stretching and doing all this shit all the time. And he was like, Oh, there's my, this is my warmup. And this is my two time Highland games champion,

you know? And then if we had him sitting here right now, standing here right now with us and said, did you do everything? He would say, no, I think he would say no. I think he would.

Well, cause he didn't have his nutrition in time. Yeah. And he ended up with some injuries and things like that. And it's not really related to the nutrition, but I bet you that he would have some speculation on things that he could have done better, a little bit more precise, probably a little bit less, as all us older people talk about, taking less risks.

But on the topic of Matt Vincent, he shared with me yesterday, he said, hey man, thanks for all the inspiration, thanks for being a good friend and so on. I was like, cool man, what's going on and he said he ran five miles the other day what he's like i just ran five and he sent me a picture and he's wearing the everyday sleeve so of course he cheated yeah so we need to discredit him because he wore the everyday sleeve but how much torture has that guy been through with his knee you know how you have reconstructive knee surgery. He had many, many knee surgeries.

But there's a guy who's not afraid to work on his weaknesses. What was the worst thing for his knee? Running. Just ran. I just told you he ran five miles. He said he ran five miles in an hour, which sounds pretty quick to me. I would have took me,

it took me four months to be able to months to be able to run that far. But, you know, it's interesting the things that can happen in your mind when you go against the grain and you go against all this stuff that you had a negative interpretation of. Running, I ain't going to run. Running is stupid. You know, it's a really interesting thing what could happen what what if you what if you're like george saint pierre and like one of the things you hate the worst in the world is fighting fucking hates fighting and he just as a kid he was like i it's like i i can't avoid it you know people are gonna pick on me and like i'm a mess i'm too skinny

becomes one of the greatest fighters of all time, you know? So who knows what's on the other side of stuff for you? If you can figure out or figure out a way to embrace your fears, you know, how, how can you, and how can you, how can you recognize them and embrace them at least just a bit, you know, and, or your weaknesses, sometimes they coincide. You know what you're saying with GSP, like for a lot of people that would have been a created barrier for themselves. I'm too small. I'm not big enough. Okay. There's no reason for me to even try fighting. And it made me think of what Ben was saying. Knees over toes guy. What

Ben was saying, by the way, he's very knowledgeable. He tries to pay attention to the best coaches. He got himself in front of Charles Poliquin. He works with a lot of different people, right? To try and increase what he knows. But what did he say about research? He's like, because, because a lot of the stuff he's doing right now has not been proven by studies. Like there's just no studies backing a lot of things that he's doing. He's very clear about that. there's just no studies backing a lot of things that he's doing he's very clear about that he doesn't really care right and i say this not because i think studies are useless i think studies are great but there are so many people that rely on that they're like oh this study says this this study says this about doing this i'm not going to give that like oh this study says this this study says this about doing this i'm not

going to give that a shot this study says this about this so it's not gonna you know it's that that that can't work because of this study i think a lot of people use those as barriers because maybe they don't want to do something that's a little bit uncomfortable or maybe they don't want to do something that's a little bit against the grain because a study says that this is going to happen. Like, just fucking stop. Like, I'm like, I think there's a YouTube video on this. I think it's called Fuck Your Elbow. There you go.

There you go. That's what it's based on. Yeah. It's like, you know, let's, you know, some, I mean, think of all the great things that have been created over the years and you think that somebody had a real negative interpretation of what they were trying to do no they were like this is going to work out you know i'm gonna i'm gonna fucking figure out a way to create enough energy to where i'm going to be able to shoot a rocket into the sky and to go to the moon you know somebody thought of that somewhere, somewhere along the lines. And then everybody else thought about all the problems that there is with that.

And someone's like, no, no, I got it. Like, we're going to fucking figure this out. You know, what about all the people are going to die? That's probably going to happen. But we will get someone on the fucking moon. You know, we're going to figure this out. Think about like Henry Ford with like the assembly line. Like, did he need a study? Did he need someone to be like, well, you know, what's going to happen if you, someone's

going to lose a finger, you know, you got, you know, one guy here and one guy there and okay. You know, yeah, we'll lose some fingers, but we're, we're going to be able to make cars go from being $2,000 a piece to being $500 a piece. And we're going to change the landscape of America forever. I mean, the car, I mean, the invention of the car and people having access to vehicles that were four times cheaper than they were before.

I mean, that's more important than sitting there waiting for a study. I think. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Take a shot with something. Just,

just try it. That's why. Just be open-minded. Yeah. That's why, like when, uh, again, like there's all this hate on stretching. that's why just be open-minded yeah that's why like when again like there's all this hate on stretching from certain people but i give no fucks like i know what my

body's able to do now versus what my body was able to do in the past and i'm just like i don't give any fucks if you say that a study said that it decreases power production. I'm plenty fucking strong and I feel great. So just try, like just, just try. If it doesn't work for you, great.

But if certain things like that do awesome, you figured something out and you went, you went directly against what a study said. That's, that's, that's it. I usually, the studies come like after, you know, the tried and true.

You know, there's a bunch of I saw a study at at Fullerton when I went and saw Andy Galpin. And it was about a kettlebell, you know, and how a kettlebell can strength. I can't remember the exact study. bell can strength i can't remember the exact study so apologize but basically showed like a kettle bell can can deliver the same amount of like strength fitness that a deadlift can and it's like yeah you know like so a kettlebell the biggest kettlebell like i've ever seen is the one we have in the gym it's 200 pounds yeah you know a period like end of story the story's over like you it's not going to challenge your body the way a deadlift can, because a deadlift, I'm pretty sure I've seen people deadlift 1,100 pounds before, you could put on a lot more weight, who's stronger, the guy that can maybe swing around the

200 pound kettle, and I realize there's different levels of strength, and there's different requirements, and I understand there's a, and then how the study was conducted and, and, and all these things, but it's absurd. It's absurd to even think about, to think about like somebody swinging around a kettlebell that's 200 pounds versus somebody lifting like 800 pounds, you know? So sometimes the studies themselves, like they're, they're done in a weird fashion that doesn't really get you to where you want to even, uh, it doesn't even get you results that you're

like looking for sometimes, but usually they're set up to try to get results to have a certain outcome because it's funded by, it's funded by somebody that's looking for a particular outcome so that they can say their product or this thing is, you know, better or, you know, whatever the, whatever those things might be. So it gets to be very, very confusing. I've never been a huge fan of, of nutrition science in particular, because it's always like after the fact, it's like, we already know that keto works really well. We already know that any nutritional plan that you can follow, where you can find a

way to be able to control how much you eat is going to be effective whether it's intermittent fasting or it doesn't matter what it is if you can figure out how to uh not over consume energy every day then you're probably going to be you're probably going to be good there's a lot of strategies that you could use for that. You could eat more protein. You could utilize intermittent fasting. You could have fat and protein mainly be the main source of your diet so that you're satiated for longer periods of time. You could also eat carbs if you can figure out a reasonable way to eat them. You can eat sugar.

You can have sugar. You're not necessarily going to be diabetic if it's done in a way where you're not overeating. And then all they do all day long is they continue to do study after study after study after study over again. And you go to any of these nutrition expos and there's one person after another rattling off this study, rattling off that study. another rattling off this study rattling off that study and a lot of times people are studying stuff all all the while other people are actually doing stuff and making really great advancements and moving along really quickly while a lot of other people are like waiting for the research to come out yeah that's the thing like i think that there's there's so much nuance to it it's like when when we say something like this then people are Oh, you're just anti-evidence based and anti-research. No, not at all there. That stuff is very useful. It's

really beneficial, but it's not stopping me from trying anything. Like, I don't care if a study says that this diet practice is better than this one. If I actually want to try this and see why so many people are doing well on this, even though it's, uh, even though all these studies say that's not a good idea, I'm going to fucking do like that's the thing it's like there's the studies information cool great i see it but don't let that stop you don't let that be a barrier for trying something if you actually want to try it that's that's the only thing i'm thinking it still has that it's still valid there's still some use behind it but it's i just see so many people like that that's not evidence-based or that's not like i i used to be that person i

i used to be that person that was like oh this study says this about you know these dieting protocols and shit i really used to be like that but after some time i was like that's kind of bullshit i think yeah i i can't let that stop me from trying something. Yeah. Don't get swerved by it. The, um, one of the studies that I remember from that, that Andy Yelpin visit was,

uh, deadlifting with a straight bar versus a trap bar and which one was more effective. And the study showed that they were identical because it used the same muscles. And when I look at both bars, I'm like, no, I, I know for me, which one's harder so i'm pretty sure but i use that information like for the you know on the

positive side i'm like okay i it hurts when i deadlift with the straight bar it doesn't hurt when i deadlift with the trap bar that study said that they work the same muscle so i'm just gonna go with it that was that was kind of like a, almost the opposite. Like I used ignorance to ignore everything else just so that way I could feel better about, you know, that situation. But that was a fun trip.

Yeah. Just understand guys, it's, it's not black and white. It's not like we're saying studies are bad and useless. No, that's not black and white. And I keep clarifying this because when you say certain things like these

people are like, Oh, then you believe this. No, there's like this very large gray area where i'm sitting i'm fence sitting so uncomfortable yeah where do you put your anyway you just stick them on the fence steel when it comes to something like uh icing you know you ice your knee or you ice your elbow and you know people make just big deals about all this stuff. And we really need to sit around and wait for studies to come?

Yeah. Or does it feel better to ice your elbow after a practice or ice your elbow after a hard training session? That's up to you. If you think it feels better, you think it works better, then stick with it. uh, then stick with it. If you think, um, you know,

the strategies that you're utilizing for your nutrition are, I mean, cause you hear so many different things about fasting and then you hear so many things about whether you should have, uh, any sort of food around your, uh, workouts.

Let's say that you're like, Oh yeah, I want to, you know, fast, you know, each day until about 2 PM, but I usually work out at eight.

So I think I'm gonna have a protein shake post-workout. Don't go and sweat that. Like, don't make that a big, just have the protein shake post-workout. Does it make you feel any better? Are you able to still make progress? You know, are you able to still make improvements? Because progress is success. And so if we're trying to utilize a study to help us gain more knowledge so that we can be more successful in something, you may as well do what Nsema said and just not really concern yourself with it, not really slow yourself down with it. Do what you think is going to be best for you at the moment. And be honest with yourself if you think that's working. You know, if you're just doing it because you don't want to be too uncomfortable or something, you know, those are some different things.

But, you know, guys like Jake Hutler and guys like Michael Phelps and guys like Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods. And they, they come to their own, they don't ask other people a lot of questions, you know, they, they, they will,

they'll, they'll speculate on things here and there, but they get most of their best answers from themselves. Cause they know that that's where, that's where the, that's where the true shit comes from. It's not necessarily coming from a study, you know,

Kobe Bryant staying, you know, getting there before the game, staying there after the game shit comes from not necessarily coming from a study you know kobe bryant staying you know getting there before the game staying there after the game there's not he's not waiting for like a study to come out about how to improve your free throws he just knows if he does it a lot that he's going to be better at it and i think one one thing that like i was thinking about recently was because like lifting cultures of it's still a very new phenomenon you know like the idea of going into a building and lifting up weights to do something to your body has only been something that we've been doing for maybe the past 70 80 years yeah maybe just say like 50 yeah 40 50 years yeah like like in a real concerted effort you know where you where we have gained enough knowledge to like kind of know what we're doing and stuff i think in the beginning

well in the beginning is actually a good example you should just like pick stuff up you know you should be like guys in the circus yeah yeah those would be the guys that were like it wouldn't be very uncommon to see somebody that was in shape unless they were like the handlebar guy with the yeah right um but but the reason why i was mentioning that is because it's like okay so this is still a very new thing we are still learning so many things about it right now but on the other end of it you have people right now that are they take on certain diets and they feel better um or they do they do certain protocols like even people that are vegan they're like oh i feel so much better and so much stronger and even they're doing it great for a good amount of time for a long time but i one thing that we haven't even tapped into but we've kind

of gotten some understanding of a little bit is like the power of an individual's mind over what they do like think about that you know, there are people out there who can change their state and change their, like even their hormonal state based off of the things that they think based off of the way that they breathe. They, they, they're so deep into that aspect of things because of what's going on up here. So when you're doing these different protocols, there is an aspect that's probably very strong as far as your belief in what you're doing is concerned. And if you believe in it, if you think it's helping you, if you feel better, if you really

do have that belief, there is a good chance that you're going to see a long-term benefit from it, despite what any type of study can say. I mean, we're just getting into researching what like meditation can do. And we're seeing all the crazy benefits that come from training your mind and, and getting, getting deeper in there. But the effects that that's going to have on an individual's body and individual's hormones and that belief, like that's real, like that's like, and it makes a very, very, very big difference difference so if you're doing something and you really believe in it and you know you might be reaping some massive benefits

purely based off of that belief you have right yes and also just like don't give a fuck about what anybody else says as soon as they find out that that's what's helping you yeah because people aren't gonna sorry sometimes people might see something working for you and then look for that study that proves that like no you're doing something wrong it's like if you don't give a fuck about what they have to say or think like what's so wrong about like getting better and believing in your your whatever it is right like like selling out for yourself like a lot of people i think are too scared to do that yeah you're like i woke up at 5 a.m and did cardio today and someone else is like well isn't sleep

more important than exercise you know like you start questioning it yeah and it just it can kind of throw you off or hey doesn't you know cardio doesn't that increase cortisol and it's not really good for building muscle and i thought you were trying to build you know, cardio, doesn't that increase cortisol and it's not really good for building muscle? And I thought you were trying to build, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Big time.

And, you know, people can slow you down with like, you know, a lot of bullshit. But leaning into your weaknesses is a really tough thing to do. And like I said earlier, like I don't think it serves you to find all the stuff that you really find to be horrible. Yeah. Uh, it's, it's within the confines of stuff that you're still interested in.

You know, it's within the confines of things that are still going to serve you and, and things that are going to, uh, enhance and improve your life. So you're not going way out of your way to find all this stuff that, you know, I've always

said like at super training if we were going to go like work on our weaknesses we would go to the library we wouldn't be in a gym probably in the first place you know you'd be like studying something intellectual or doing something like that you know rather than talking about porn and trying to improve our bench press you know they're like like andrew with what you just said right there, there is that, like, you know, doing your cardio in the morning, waking up, doing your cardio. Right. But if you hear something from somebody. Entertain it. Like when we had Alan Flanagan on the podcast, I usually eat close to before bed and Alan's like, might be better if you did that three hours before, buddy, you might have better sleep.

Well, just because I sleep okay when I eat before bed, I'm going to now, like I've been, you know, eating three hours before bed and I haven't been sweating in my bed. My sheets are dry. You know how rare that is for me to not sweat in my sheets? Waking up with dry sheets? Yeah. That's a big reason because I'm not eating right before I go to sleep anymore. So don't like, you know, you could be doing your thing and it could be working great. And we're saying, you know, you don't have to like depend on studies or whatever.

But if someone does say that something might be better, entertain it or potentially be open to entertain it. Yeah. You might find something more optimal. Yeah. I, again, I keep testing it on accident, but just like eating a little bit later.

I'm like, let's see how this goes. Yeah. It's almost like a, like perfect. Like whenever I do like realize it, but it's like a one-to-one, like if I eat late,

I'm fucking ruining. It's just sweat everywhere something that we haven't really been taught or haven't really really i haven't really heard much i mean i know more recently people been talking about it and i've heard people talk about your resting heart rate while your sleep will be lower the further out that you have your meal uh from from the time you sleep but you know we hear about like bedtime we hear about people waking up to alarms um but i never really heard of like a time to completely shut down any like further calories that you consume like i don't remember anyone ever i mean i remember

my parents would kind of say like the kitchen's off limits kind of at certain hours you know kitchen's closed kitchen's closed type of deal. Yeah. No carbs after 5.00 PM. That used to be that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've had, I have heard that before, but you know, this idea of just like eating your dinner and having that be the end, I could help. I could help so many people. I think, I think most people are sabotaging themselves after that point. And that's when they're reaching for potato chips or,

or whatever other, whatever, whatever other things are slowing them down, you know? Yeah. Alan Flanagan, that episode was great. It was so good that we totally missed the fact that he has like a bunch of

research on how vegetable oils actually maybe might not be bad. Yeah. Chris Bell was talking about that recently. Is it because he looked at, or maybe he was, maybe he saw somewhere else. Yeah. Your brother was talking about that recently is it because he looked at or maybe he was maybe he saw somewhere else yeah your brother was talking about that and because he we me and him were talking before we had him on and then it just totally escaped my mind during that conversation and i was like i was like hey boar who was it that we were and he was like you guys missed him yeah we'll have money again yeah i know so i was like maybe

i'll reach out and do like a short little interview for like the newsletter or something talking about just that that could be pretty cool kevin bass talks a lot about stuff like that too i don't know if you guys follow him at all but he's like a little a little um little lane norton-esque you know he's uh he was just talking the other day about, um, uh, sleep trackers and how your sleep tracker, you know, if it shows that you had a bad night of sleep, you know, you might feel like shit about it. And, uh, I think he was showing some studies that showed some inaccuracy again, you know, uh, be open-minded, um, but also, you know, safeguard yourself away from bullshit the best you can. If you have something that's working well for you,

you may as well continue to do that thing, but also always be in search of, hey, I bet you that there's still a better way. This way is cool. This is working great, but there's probably other things I can do that could be more optimal that might even be better. Absolutely.

Is it this guy? Yeah, he has an idea. That's him, okay yeah he's cool i just saw his stuff right now it's pretty dope yeah man it's um i think that that's that's the thing that we gotta you know try and do like for okay this isn't this is an example i have a few friends that are vegan right and i've been um like i may think certain things about what they're doing and if they ask me any questions i might say hey i mean you might want to try this but i'm not gonna go shit on them for being vegan um i think that like you you we really gotta like we really gotta get better if

like we're on one side not to absolutely poop on the other side because of their choice of doing something. Oh, the interesting thing, too, is they're not on the other side. They're on our side. Yeah, they're on the side of being healthy. Exactly. They're not on the other side. But, yeah, like if you had a friend that's just like really, you know, just shitty with his nutrition all the time, it would make more sense to be frustrated with that person. Like, man, I can't believe we do that every day.

Like, I know I I know I keep harping on it i probably shouldn't care what you put in your body because it's up to you but man i hate seeing that i wish you you know would make better changes yeah meanwhile we're yelling at someone who's eating kale that's so funny that's so true though it's like they're they're not on the other chicken breast is way better than your kale trust me my piedmontese steak is way better than your kale. Trust me. My Piedmontese steak is way better than your kale. Bruh. Well, the Piedmontese actually is better than the kale, though. I mean, it's true.

I mean, I can't dispute that. We had some Piedmontese last night. My brother came over and we used the Pit Boss. Nice. Smoked it. Ugh. And it was just, we had some Piedmontese fillets. Fucking unreal.

Why didn't you call me? Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, sometimes the technology, you know, the Wi-Fi at my place. They're going to tell me about this. We clicked it up on the pit boss. It was tasty. We had so much fun.

And I don't live that far away. There was a Wi-Fi thing. He had to reset it. My phone was dead. You know that meme that's going around right now where someone says something and then that music plays? Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. You know that one?

Yep. We need that. We need that. Yeah. But damn, that sounds good. It was fantastic. Yeah. I finally had the, I did have the hot dogs.

Ayo! All day day i don't care them shits are really good yeah no they are you know the fact that it's just like beef you know you have to worry about those hot dogs are really fucking good yeah by the way i recently finally got the filet mignon from them and i didn't realize how good their filet is oh yeah like i wasn't expecting i didn't wasn't expecting it to be so like just just you know like just very tender very tender like it's so good it's really good and then there's i'm not sure i think it's i think it's the dynasty cup uh filet but it only has like half a gram of fat per serving it doesn't make any sense

but like even just out the air fryer pulling that thing out and it's like it's still tender it tastes so damn good pulling it out it's tender yes every time and juicy alright daddy tenderized

yeah we've been having that was gonna sound even better but uh no no anyways we've been having piedmontese i was gonna say we've been having good meat every night from anyway piedmontese every night and it's been so it's been awesome yeah you know uh steward mcgill was like you you can't um do cardio anymore he said that i was actually like killing my back i didn't even consider that but after a crazy consultation with him so i haven't been able to do cardio so all i've been doing is just like eating Piedmontese and I've been staying, you know, fairly lean. So I'm pretty stoked about that.

Yeah. Just since I, since I can't up my cardio, I'm just upping my diet and my choices. And thankfully with Piedmontese, it's just like, it's too easy now. You can eat steak without worrying about crazy excess calories. Yeah. Yeah. And then of course using that, that Pit Boss, that smoker smoker it is it's really hard to mess things up in that thing but put that with piedmontese together and it's like gold it's so good yeah

but yeah um while we're at it if you guys want you know to test out some of this amazing piedmontese beef you can head over to piedmontese.com that's p-i-e-d-m-o-n-t-e-s-e.com at checkout enter promo code power project for 25 off your order and if your order is 99 a more you get free two-day shipping awesome yeah yeah and yeah we know kale isn't as good as that that's right kale's bullshit i've been digging a lot of spinach lately was Is that bad? Get the fuck out of the room. Damn it. No, take your headphones off. Turn your mic off and leave.

Spinach? Bro. Wow, this podcast really went down. Like, not even, like, cooking. Like, you know how you can, like, cook it with eggs or something and it disappears? Like, nah, just raw. Yeah. Raw.

Raw. I have a challenge for all you carnivores and ketos and you know whatever go find your vegan friend and give him a hug and say i love you i love you my vegan friend we're in this together i don't think i do it vegan friends okay then go make some just go downtown sacramento they're all over the place yeah just go to sprouts they'll you'll see a bunch that's true sprouts is a cool place but yeah that's it's like it's there's there's no reason to and that's why like when i like when i see content from individuals i'm just like do you have to do that i mean i get it like it's there is i guess uh uh you can build a strong

following by making it an us versus them thing, but it really shouldn't be. It really shouldn't be. It shouldn't be. Just to kind of take this thing home, you know, when you are working on your weaknesses, just got to keep in mind, like, it's going to take time, you know, and you can't avoid it. You can't, there's not a lot of good ways to get better at a pull-up than to actually just figure out ways of working with a pull-up. A lat pull-down, a seated row, they're all good exercises.

Maybe strengthening your arms could help. Obviously, weight loss could help with any bodyweight exercise. But the obstacle is the way, right? That which you can't, you must things that you feel like you can't do. You know, even when Matt Vincent told me he ran five miles, I was like, I can't do it. And I was like, Oh, I could practice that. I could, I could figure that out, but it'd be difficult, you know, start to try to change some of the dialogue that you have in your head and, um, you know, learn some reinterpretation of the things that you hear and try not to attach, uh, negative feelings to facts

instead, uh, replace it with something that's neutral or positive because it's, it's all choice. You know, you have, you have a choice. Uh, and I think a lot of times that's why we, we choose not to do certain things is because we have put it in a category of negativity. We're like, I can't do I can't diet. So I've always struggled with it. You know, my family members make fun of me when I even try it because I suck at it. And I'm just going to always kind of stay this way. And so then you're just, you already said that stuff about yourself and you put a period at the end of it rather than having a question mark. You know, keep in mind if you finish a sentence with a question mark, now your mind is still open to experimenting.

Now your mind is still open and you're like, yeah, I could work on that and I could get better at it. But when you say, I suck at that, and when you kind of put a period at the end, it's a statement. That statement kind of lives inside you and it makes it very difficult to experiment with new stuff. You just won't even want to

because you feel shitty about it. So it's understandable. There's weaknesses that I have that we could i mean we could sit here and write down a whole we'll have a couple of pages of weaknesses there's a lot of things i could work on but but i choose not to because i i myself have fallen into this trap yeah like we're all we're all guilty you all have uh these things and we're just like we're just gonna keep i'm gonna work on that some other time i'm gonna work on that some other time and you never ever you never get to it you know so yeah keep an open mind and and try to be try to be a little nicer to yourself for you those of you who like to like you know

listen to audiobooks or read books um whichever check out mindset by carol dweck i don't know if either of you guys have checked that book out but it's like i think if there is one book that i would give to every kid and teenager and adult in the world just if i had to pick one it would be that book sick because like the the like when she talks about like a fixed mindset and all of that and she talks about the examples of kids and whatever man you i could think of examples in my childhood where i was like oh shit i can see why when she talks about like a fixed mindset and all of that, and she talks about the examples of kids and whatever, man, you, I could think of examples in my childhood where I was like, Oh shit, I can see why I think about this this way. Yeah. Like it, it's just,

it's a good one. A fixed mindset is an amazing thing. Cause there's, there's a, you know, I, I heard something from my, one of my friends today, he said, uh, imagine choosing to be, uh, in a state of perpetual panic attack. He's like, would you ever choose that? And you're like, no, no, no, I would. No, definitely. I've never choose that.

And then it's like, well, why do you interpret things to be negative now? Because you can make a choice on any of it. You can determine. And he gave an example and he was like he mentioned uh he was like uh he mentioned a bunch of a series of things and he said i want you to think about each word that i say and so he said cancer he said racism he said uh you know heart disease um donald trump like he just said these things that you know coronavirus people have a

reaction to and then he said 12 13 14 15 and he's like he's like which one of these did you really not have any sort of opinion about at all and it's like the numbers like they don't really mean anything to you you know he's like you can choose to think that way about everything he's like maybe maybe the way that you heard those numbers and maybe what it meant to you and the way you felt it or or lack of feeling it in your heart because you didn't attach a feeling to it in the first place maybe if you could think of everything interpret everything as those numbers this is facts that have been put in front of me. Give me a second. Let me determine what I would like to attach to that if I want to try to take any action towards it. Do I need to be angry towards it? Am I threatened? Is there anything going on? But you

can give yourself a second and you can actually determine where you want to go with it because it's not necessarily good or bad it's just uh it's just words it's just information and you go from there i was like damn andrew take us on out of here buddy sure thing thank you everybody for checking out today's episode uh everyone on the live stream stay tuned because we will be doing another clubhouse today. Another meathead clubhouse on the... Shaq. Are you going to make it? Oh, you missed.

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