Mark Bell's Power Project - EP. 542 - Is Your Mindset Keeping You Weak Broke & Small?

Episode Date: June 29, 2021

We've been seeing a lot of people on social media platforms talking about reaching their genetic limit, or believing they can't do something based on a certain set of circumstances, but the crew wants you to get rid of that broken mindset. Once you break free, you'll realize how impactful a mindset and even saying certain words can be. Subscribe to the NEW Power Project Newsletter! ➢ https://bit.ly/2JvmXMb Subscribe to the Podcast on on Platforms! ➢ https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast Special perks for our listeners below! ➢Eat Rite Foods: http://eatritefoods.com/ Use ode "POWERPROJECT25" for 25% off your first order, then code "POWERPROJECT" for 10% off every order after! ➢LMNT Electrolytes: http://drinklmnt.com/powerproject ➢Piedmontese Beef: https://www.piedmontese.com/ Use Code "POWERPROJECT" at checkout for 25% off your order plus FREE 2-Day Shipping on orders of $99 ➢Sling Shot: https://markbellslingshot.com/ Enter Discount code, "POWERPROJECT" at checkout and receive 15% off all Sling Shots Follow Mark Bell's Power Project Podcast ➢ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ https://www.facebook.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/mbpowerproject ➢ LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/powerproject/ ➢ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/markbellspowerproject ➢TikTok: http://bit.ly/pptiktok FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell ➢ Snapchat: marksmellybell ➢Mark Bell's Daily Workouts, Nutrition and More: https://www.markbell.com/ Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/ Podcast Produced by Andrew Zaragoza ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz #PowerProject #Podcast #MarkBell

we're going live andrew what's up what they do so everyone did catch that part live oh they did what the hell they heard it hello live people but now they can see us now what happened when soon what did i do oh there we go hit some sort of weird button the button the dib button yeah and then something happened. Something weird happened. So hello everyone who's live. So today we're talking about building big pecs. Big pecs. Or big checks.

Or are we talking about big triceps? Or big... Damn it, my rhyming sucks. Triceps. Biceps? No. Triceps. I was trying to think of something outside of that. Triceps. sucks triceps biceps no triceps i was trying to think of something outside of fitness but triceps we suck man you're supposed to be good at this actually you're the rhymer in the crowd i know i'm not usually that bad at it but yeah sometimes

i don't know triceps is hard but we'll work on it it's funny because people would probably look at us and be like this is the guy that should be able to rap when i'm not the one somebody should be able to do something on this show right right oh god now i can't stop thinking about that. I know. Game over. And the audience can't stop thinking about it either. Yeah. Anyway, I'm excited about today's topic because I love talking about mindset stuff. I know sometimes people can be put off by it because, like, man, like, motivation, da-da-da-da-da. But I think that all of us are very, very guilty of adopting a fixed mindset to protect ourselves sometimes.

You know, you think about something that you want to try to do that you're not great at. It's easy to just say, yeah, I'm not going to really mess with that because I'm not good at it. Or even using words that are more damaging, saying like, I can't do that. Or I'll probably never be that good at that. Examples of this I've seen happen a lot in business where someone might say, you know, this like, Oh, I'm going to start this t-shirt business. There'll probably never be a big business, but I'm going to start anyway cause it's going to be fun. It be a big business, but I'm going to start it anyway because it's going to be fun.

It's like, why? There's no reason to say that. You know, just you're going to start a business. You want to see what you can do with it. It might start out being smaller, but you never know. Why not give it a chance? You were talking about your mom saying the sky's the limit. If you share some of that, that was pretty awesome.

Yeah. the limit if you share some of that that was pretty awesome yeah you know i was thinking about this this morning um because like you know how like your mindset can be formed drastically by the way that your parents think the way that they teach you and i was just thinking like okay well my mom's a single parent but like why is it that maybe i think some of the way i do and there's something that she'd say to me all the time and i remember like as as early as i can remember she'd always say the sky's not the limit and And my grandma would also say that too. Um, and it's like, yeah, there's this saying that the sky's limit and that's supposed to be like, yeah, you can, you can go towards the sky. But my mom was like, no, the sky's not the limit. Why would, why would there even be a limit? So

she kind of always drilled that into my head. And along with that, like my mom did a lot of things to me from a young age that made me just kind of realize that i could literally do anything or hang with anyone and the primary thing the first thing that she started with was like she enrolled me in um college classes as far as music when i was six so there was a day that we had a keyboard in the house and you know i was like she saw that there was something playing on the TV and I kind of just went on the keys and did some random shit. And it wasn't good, but I could hear the notes and I wasn't playing great, but she's like, huh, oh, that's good. Keep trying, keep trying. And then because at that time there was the ability to do this, she's like, okay, you should go take some piano classes at ARC.

So then she had me taking these classes these music classes with adults and actually i had the highest grade in those classes as a fucking six and seven year old but it wasn't because i was talented it was because she pushed me right she pushed me to try to learn these things along with these other people um and that kind of gave me the confidence early on to just be like, eh, I really like, I don't need, like, just because they're adults doesn't mean, number one, that they're smarter than me. But number two, she gave me the confidence to think I could do whatever I wanted to. And we've seen that many times in the gym, you know, lifting. You know, when I was doing my bodybuilding show,

I lifted with a bunch of different people to prep for the show. shout out to my boy andrew over there for pushing me a lot but i trained a lot with ryan spencer as well and um ryan's mindset was like i don't fucking care that mark weighs you know 50 pounds 60 pounds 70 pounds more than me i don't care if he's bigger than me i don't care if he's got more experience in powerlifting. I want to lift more than him. Most workouts he'd lift more than me. That man's volume is like four or five for 20 reps. Yeah. And he doesn't need a lot of rest in between sets. That's what was catching me more so than anything else was the fact that he would just keep going because he's like, I got 45 minutes to work out and then I got to go jet and I got to go work.

And look, man, if he could easily adopt the mindset of like, I need to stay in my lane, I'm a much smaller guy. It doesn't make sense for me to lift, you know, those kinds of weights. Uh, so instead of me going to four 55 for a set of six or eight reps, I'm going to just stay in my lane and do three plates. You know, he could have had that mindset when he was young,. And I know he played football and did a lot of other things. He's not a huge guy. I think he weighs like 170 pounds. So imagine like in high school, he's probably 140 pounds, 150 pounds. But he figured out a way to, you know, play high school football.

And so I think a lot of times our mindset can really, really hold us back even when it comes to something as simple as just lifting weights. Yeah. I'm glad you brought up Brian Spencer because we were talking in the gym and he was just talking about his home gym setup and he's like, yeah, I got a sissy squat bar and he's going back and forth about that. And he's like, yeah, and I hit 225 on it. I'm like, what?

He's like, yeah, is that, I mean, it's only 225. I'm like, on a sissy squat? And I was blown away. And it was like nothing to him. And I'm like, do you understand what you just did? And I sent it to Doug Bregnoli, and they were just like, what the fuck is this? They couldn't understand it either. Yeah, when he, you know, when he came to super training, I mean, he was amongst, like, some real monsters.

I mean, we had probably 20 guys in the gym uh that were over 300 pounds and again ryan he just didn't even he was like i'm just yes he like jesus he's just not even thinking about it multiple reps yeah guys this okay you know i don't want to stop you from your trainer thought no but go ahead well yeah no just you know he was at super training gym when we had guys you know squatting thousand pounds guys benching you know 800 pounds and deadlifting 800 pounds and he just thought like rather than like kind of having a negative mindset like hey this isn't for me i'll never be like these guys i'll never be able to do that he's like no i think i can i think i can beat these guys that was his mindset and a lot of times he did a lot of times he'd kick our ass i mean the guy's pulling i think i've seen him deadlift 675 before yeah yeah i mean he's a freaking the monster and he's uh you know uh he's also i think 45 or 46

yeah something like that he's he's he's not i mean he he has the body of a spring chicken but age is not a spring chicken but this is the thing this i'm happy that we we kind of came across this right here because andrew can you look up that that that dude that um that came over here and made some content julian baldy julian underscore baldy's instagram and the reason why i want to pull that up too is because i if you can find his back extension oh okay um now the reason why i'm mentioning this guys is because uh like ryan spencer just showed right there i don't think i could sissy squat 225 by the way because i mean shit yeah i don't think i could well talk about having a broke mindset i wouldn't even try it

nah my knees i'm cool yeah yeah right it was so funny like when he when he told me about i'm like dude i don't even know if i can do like a body weight one and he's just like really it's great andrew's like i think that's a world record right well that's how i treated it and i'm like no you don't understand like you just like i explained like the whole like the the um physics of resistance and all that i'm like you just put like probably like 10 000 pounds on your quads and he's like really like yes dude i'm thinking he's just sitting there all jacked yeah yeah as he goes to deadlift i think at that point it's like five something like just for reps just for fun before i mentioned this that kind of reminds me wasn't jesse norris wasn't that kind of jesse story where he was like i'm lifting weights

in my garage and i did 500 for 40 and i I just thought that was normal. And his brother happened to be super strong, too. So they were just like, oh, this is just. Yeah, this is normal. Everyone does this. This is how it goes. Michael Hearns, another example, when he used to go to the gym, he would go to a gym that had world famous powerlifter Bull Stewart. And Bull Stewart was continuously benching 500 pounds, deadlifting 800 pounds, squatting 800 pounds. So Mike never viewed it like, oh, I'll never have a shot at this.

He was just like, I'm just young. Dude. I'm young, and look at Kobe Bryant's career. Kobe Bryant's career is that he used to play with the, I was going to say the Eagles. He used to play with the Philadelphia 76ers all the time when he was a little kid. I don't know, 14, 15, something like that.

I wasn't able to find it, so I'm going to scroll if you could help me. Okay, we'll see a back extension soon. Well, number one, let's look at that transformation real quick. Go there and to the left. All right, so the cool thing about Julian and his trainer, Adan, we were talking about this after we made some content, but he showed me a video of Julian when the dude was like 14 15 16 you wouldn't see the dude as being like an athlete you know didn't scream built different athlete he was just like you know he just looked

like a normal guy but Julian's mind when it comes to training Adan was like this dude just fucking works and he works and he works and he works he doesn't let his body determine what he's able to do um that's why julian number one he had such a crazy transformation but when you find that back extension video um he back extensions 275. like let's see if we can find that actually now the cool thing is like 275 on a back extension maybe some people hear that they're like uh what's the what's the big deal a back extension is is very difficult like very fucking difficult and like for example when i was when we were doing it together and i was like you know just doing some back extensions me doing 135 pounds i was like wow even though my i can deadlift over 600 i can maybe still deadlift 700 this back extension is not

easy it's a it's a big weak link and he's done 275 looks like i don't know it's not there anymore for some reason but anyway i'm finding it but anyway like that's not something that most most people can do they can't they can't do that it takes a lot of it takes a lot of grit and it takes a lot of just like putting your blinders on and just doing what's in front of you in training i think you mentioned something really cool there how like mike o'hearn for example and then there was somebody else you mentioned but they just put their blinders on and they didn't necessarily pay attention to what everyone was doing they were like jesse norris too they were just like okay i'm just going to train and I'm going to get as strong as possible and as big as possible.

And I'm just going to see what I can get to. But a majority of people nowadays, especially when I see stuff on like Instagram, YouTube, Tik TOK, when I see some of these comments, all these people are like, drugs,

steroids, drugs. There's no way it's impossible. I'm just like, that's why you look the way you look brother like seriously yeah i'm not open to the fact that like maybe the guy got there through hard work and even if the guy did take drugs and let you know we talk about this often too is there's always a body of work behind everything that anybody does uh as far as i know i've never seen anyone just

like take a pill and like totally be able to change everything including their mindset so you have a broke mindset um you can have a broke mindset with money you can have broke mindset without money you can have a broke mindset on steroids you can have a broke mindset uh off steroids it's always going to serve you best to be a little bit more open-minded or work on that. So you can kind of just work on improvement, you know, and I think, I think people get really, get really confused about like what success is. All that success is, is progress. That's all that it is. It's just, how can you make some progress? How can you,

and then how can you continue to have progress? Progress is the number one marker of success. And then usually what determines that, and this is why I talk about this often, is normally it's an interest level. You know, you're just interested, you're interested enough to overcome all the other obstacles. to overcome all the other obstacles. Another great example that we have in our circle, we have many examples of people that have just some savage mindsets, is someone like Jeremy Avila.

Oh my God. Jeremy Avila, and this isn't all, you know, comeback stories all the time with what we're talking about for today, but, you know, that guy used to, he used to have a really, really bad drug addiction. He used to be really, really skinny. He used to, um, he used to look the opposite of the way that he looks now.

Pretty much. He looks jacked. He's really strong. Uh, he can deadlift nearly 900 pounds, but he went through many, many years of his life where, um, he'd probably be hard for him to deadlift three 15, you know, which doesn't know you're like, what, how did that happen? Uh, at some point, Jeremy changed his mind. At some point, he was like, you know what?

And every time Jeremy's around, you know what you're going to get every time. He's always super happy. He's always laughing. He's got the biggest smile in the room. He's like, just happy to be there, you know, and maybe it's because of his past experiences. He nearly died a couple times but you don't have to nearly die to have a mindset that's a little bit more open towards uh growth and towards making progress yeah i think that first off i didn't know that like he almost died that's wild um but yeah that's the main thing i noticed about jeremy

whenever you whenever i see him he's always pumped I've never seen him not pumped about to be there or to be doing something. So that's one big thing. And then what you mentioned as far as a progress thing, that's a big deal. on their progress. They're more so focused on like when I'm doing something, how does it like, they're focused on doing things for other people. Usually it's like, okay, if I can get big, this will impress this, or this will do this. Like they're usually not focused on doing it for themselves and doing it to see what type of progress they can personally make. They're not focused on themselves. They're focused on all these outside sources, right? And if they don't, for example, if you don't meet the expectation of what you like what you want like for example let's say you are you want to study real estate right and then you you you know you maybe do your course you get your license and you start the whole thing in terms of selling houses but your first year you have a

really tough go at it and you're not doing as well as maybe somebody else you know that's fucking made millions already in their first year so you're like all tough go at it, and you're not doing as well as maybe somebody else you know that's fucking made millions already in their first year. So you're like, all right, I'm not good. This isn't for me. This definitely isn't my thing. I can't do this. Oh, there we go. That was work.

Yeah, he had to go all the way to TikTok. It was on BarstoolU TikTok. Yeah. That's a 275-pound back extension. That shit, that's... I mean, even the way he threw it off was right he was just like right but they're they're always focused on everybody else and if they're not meeting that expectation they're they're done right um but if you just look at your progress and you're actually interested in what you're doing no matter how long it takes you to do it

you will eventually get there. You know, it's just a time game. You can learn and you can continue to progress in certain realms. And at some point you'll get to that destination. Could have taken somebody one year, two years, might take you four or five years. But at the end of the day, you're going to get there. If you put your blinders on and you focus on yourself, you stay interested and you keep progressing.

I think it's sometimes hard to recognize like what's in your best interest, you know, like, um, so I, I want to just also point out that we have broken mindsets a lot of times on a lot of things and somebody could even easily break us down and, uh, you know, find us saying I can't or find us saying, you know, know um i don't mind like going into the ocean but i'm not going in like too far you know what i mean like yeah i'm kind of i i'm like i'll boogie board with my family and stuff like that but like if you saw me out there i'm a big pussy like i'm i'm pretty scared um and i know that being i know what being scared does to you it's not helpful it's hurtful yeah

being scared and flopping around the water and shit it's only going to drown you that's all it's going to it's going to be helpful for that it's not going to be something that's going to be a benefit especially if you are to get in some sort of uh compromised position so we could go you know out in the middle of the sea uh with the greatestuba diver in the world, and they could say, Mark, you're going to be totally fucking fine, man. But this will be really good for you. This is going to be a great experience. I would not be able to attach it to. I get it.

I understand it. I understand, like, hey, if I jump out of a fucking plane or something that could be transformative in some way. But at the same time, either one of those things, I'm probably not going to do them. I'm going to think to myself, even if I know better than to say, I can't, I'm going to be thinking in the back of the back of my head, like you shouldn't do this. Like, this is not a good idea. And someone could lay it out and they can be like, dude, we've had other people in your exact same position do this. And someone could lay it out and they can be like, dude, we've had other people in your exact same position do this. And when they did this, they doubled their business. They doubled what they could do in fitness because, you know, swimming does this or they

could tell me all kinds of stuff and it could even be right. And I wouldn't be able to see it enough. I would be, my previous experiences would kind of keep me on lockdown from like opening up to those things. So we get it and we understand it. But what I'm trying to we're trying to impress upon you today is maybe you don't go out into the middle of the sea in the middle of the night. But maybe you put your toe in and kind of check the temperature of the water you know maybe you find a way to incremental progress every single thing in your life uh the way that you would do with weights and the way you would do with uh learning the way you would do it just about anything else in your life yeah just just it's funny it reminded

me um i went to this place called emigrant gapap recently, right? And I don't jump. I don't jump things into big bodies of water. You never have. Not my thing. But there's a big waterfall that's like 50 feet. And then there's a small waterfall that's like 20 feet, right? 20 feet is far. Yeah, it was.

It was. It's really far. 10 feet would be scary still yeah um so i was some homies and my ass was like shit i'm gonna do it i'm gonna do it i'm gonna do it but i was like i was like fuck i'll scare the whole couple friends just ran and jumped right yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly um well two of them didn't two of them chose not to but the the other woman i was with she chose to now you're like damn yeah we did the small one first she was like okay let's do the small one first i'm like okay let's do it so we got up there i was like you know what fuck it just fucking jump so i i jumped in i was like okay that was cool so we went up to the big one and when i got up to the big one someone at the bottom was like don't jump too far you could hit the rocks on the other side

i was like come on because if you jump with too much momentum you could just smash your body on the rocks on the other side so that sounds like fun i mean i'm so glad that i mean i'm not why didn't you invite me I showed you the video right I saw the video but like you didn't invite me To say you're crazy Yeah yeah yeah so yeah I was just like So then I just jumped off That sounds terrible why do people do that

I just don't understand But that's the thing you start with something small Right you dip your toe in And then you do the bigger thing It wasn't that bad. I would do that jump again in a heartbeat. Now it's the water cold. It was freezing.

It was also super deep. It doesn't matter. I've never jumped into such deep, such deep water. Um, but I do that shit in a heartbeat, but I, you know,

I used to not think that I would ever do something like that. So yeah, maybe a couple of years ago, maybe you wouldn't have tried it at all. Oh, no, right. No.

And then the funny thing is like obviously this is something that i went i did with some white people only y'all are crazy enough for this crazy ass white people leave it up to us just being really uh you need some adventurous white friends let's go camping nature serial killing and like extreme uh sports we got those down on lockdown pretty good yeah yeah man if you want to if you want to do some adventurous shit get some get some wilderness friends brutal i don't know if i would go off the higher one i think you would i'd have a hard time just getting in the water if it's cold now you get used to that i think it's kind of last year concerns when you're 50 feet up though right you're right

yeah the the big concern is not hitting the rocks on the other side that's the big i'd also just be worried about like coming back up like you must have went down pretty far when you're right like i don't know 12 feet 10 feet and with the bone density in Deeper than that. Deeper than that. Yeah. That water just went. It was just deep. So I just, yeah. Did it hurt at all? No, it didn't hurt. No, you just,

just your feet first or whatever, right? Yeah, I'll post the video after we finish up here. Y'all see what I'm talking about. My wife and I were talking about, because we went to San Francisco yesterday and we're like, what happens to people if you jump off a bridge?

Why is it like concrete? They say it's the same as like concrete like you'll break your bones yeah and i was like why i was like why is that like are you like if you've jumped from 50 feet are you still picking up speed at 50 feet like i don't i don't understand what happens but i guess you just you hit terminal velocity velocity. And you get fucked up. Yeah. How high is that? I wonder how high that bridge is. I don't know. Probably 100 or 200 feet.

Yeah, that's shit. I think you can survive it sometimes, but I think most of the time, I think it kills you. Maybe it knocks you out. I don't know. Jeez. Maybe you, like, pass out on the way down and you drown? I have no idea. Wait, you're talking about the Golden Gate Bridge?

Yeah, any of those bridges. It's bridge yeah i think i was on the bay bridge if you point your toes you know you're going like i know i don't think it works so at that height i believe because that's where some people will that's where they uh they will try to end their lives right they they don't make it but sometimes they'll just break through and they'll be like oh fuck i'm glad that was a bad idea it's like oof they just break a couple bones yeah dying dang how did we get here you were talking about jumping in oh yeah where was this place by the way i know you said the name but like immigrant immigrant immigrant it's immigrant

immigrant it started from probably immigrant though yeah it started probably started immigrant but it's like a pewter creek it's like a little secret spot people want to get to it okay cool i don't even remember how to get to it but you're blindfolded by the white i just i'm bad by a geography i'm just really bad at geography like you if you take me somewhere, I can't tell you how to get to it. I'm relying on maps, relying on maps. But again, you know, that's that, that's that, when it came to fitness, the small steps were already partially done because we played sports. And so the migration, the walking into the weight room and lifting weights, like, was probably, I know for me, it wasn't really anything that I really thought about that much. It was just like, oh, this is, especially for football, and especially at that time, it's like, this is, you play football and you lift that time it's like this is you play football and you lift weights it's like a part of it whereas for other people who don't maybe have that same introduction or maybe are playing a sport where lifting may not for some reason

lifting sometimes still isn't encouraged but i think it should always be encouraged um maybe your first walk in the weight room is the equivalent of us, you know, going out in the middle of the sea and jumping in, jumping in, jumping into the ocean. So it's but I think there are, you know, smaller introductions to stuff that you can do. Number one, you can find a friend that's already into lifting and say, hey, you know, can I tag along with you someday? You mind showing me a couple of things? Um, it's going to be really rare that someone's like, no, get out of here. You know, most of the time people are going to be like, Oh my God, like you want to get involved with lifting?

Like, fuck yeah, I'll show you some stuff. And, uh, you can be on your way. You could also like hire a trainer and you could literally, literally go to them and say, I don't know anything. I'm actually kind of scared. It might sound funny, but I'm, I'm kind of nervous and scared. I don't, I don't know what I'm doing. Uh, but I know that it could be, it could be helpful to me. So, you know, there's, and, and for myself personally, what's always worked is, uh, moving really, really slow and have an incremental progress over time whether it be with business or whether it be with anything in the weight room I

would say even even my transformation from years ago I used to be over 330 pounds nowadays more like 230 pounds I continue to get a little leaner. Um, but I'm not leaner like necessarily every day, all the time it's been incremental. And then also it's, um, it comes and goes a bit, you know, as lean as I am right now, I'm sure at some point I'll, I'll be a little heavier. Um, I'll go back and forth because sometimes I feel like really leaning into it and really seeing what I'm capable of and seeing what I can do. And other times I feel like relaxing a bit because the relaxing part kind of helps get me excited to go back in harder on pushing more. And then same thing when it comes to business stuff. Sometimes I'm on fire with business stuff. I have a lot of ideas, a lot of creations.

And then it just, I'm not as interested for a little bit. And I kind of pop back out of it. But over a long period of time, over three years, five years, 10 years, continually getting better. And to try to think that everything's going to always improve all the time. I think, I think that that is something that I would be cautious of because I just don't think

it's, it's realistic, but for things to get better over a long period of time in the long run, I think that is reasonable to think that. I think it is reasonable to think that you're going to lift a little bit better. You're going to be a little bit leaner. You're going to make a little bit more money. You're going to be more knowledgeable. I heard Joe Rogan the other day say, he's like, I got to be honest, I think I used to be an idiot. But from doing this show, I think I've advanced a lot.

I've learned a lot. And that didn't happen slowly. I mean, he's done thousands of shows. a lot. I've learned a lot. And that didn't happen slowly. I mean, he's done thousands of shows. Yeah. And he's prepared for thousands of comedic shows, being on Fear Factor and all the different experiences that he's had has now led to him having, you know, one of the best podcasts in the world. It takes time. It takes time. That's that's one thing that, you know, whenever I see a comment, that's like a question of like, oh, what would your big suggestion for getting big be or your big suggestion for losing fat or your big suggestion for whatever? And it may sound so cliche, but it's literally being patient with yourself, because I think that if a majority of people were just able to be more patient, they'd be able to get to that end goal. No matter if you're trying to lose like a hundred pounds or 15 pounds, um, or you're trying to, you know,

gain a lot of muscle and get pretty big majority of the time, it's not just going to be this 12 week, one year endeavor. It's going to be thing, the thing that you had to do for multiple years. And if you're not patient, either you'll quit because you're not seeing the progress that you're looking for in the certain amount of time you're looking for it. Um, or you'll be able to be patient enough to get through the heart, like just to continue chipping away at it, finding small places to improve, finding small places to get better. Um, and, and also I think one big thing is doing your best to get around people that are substantially better than you, because that was one of the biggest changes for me when it came to

my strength was when I came to super training. Uh, cause that before that I was the strongest person in the gyms that I was training at, at that time I came to super training. I was strong, but my bench didn't compare to Marcus or Mike or you. I was my bench was weak. My deadlift was still form needed, you know, taking like I need a technique work. Marcus looked at it. You looked at it. You guys were like, oh, it's a few things you could fix there. Try this. Try this. I got a little bit weaker for a while because I had to change up my form. So I legit lost 70 pounds off of my deadlift because you guys shifted some things with the way I moved. And then after a few months, my deadlift went from 650 to 715 because of the technique adjustments, because I adjusted, went backwards, move forwards. But I was willing to take the advice of people that were better than me and to just chip away at it. I think a lot of people, they might be sticking around people that, first off, aren't looking for progress, but also they might just be sticking around people that aren't helping them improve. And if you're sticking around those types of

people all the time, then you're just going to stay where you are. You're going to be stagnant. And, uh, if you're not very, very self-motivated to try to find that information for yourself, you're going to start to think that it's impossible to gain a certain amount of muscle. It's impossible to get bigger. It's impossible to lose all this weight. When it comes to, uh, something like getting bigger, like that is a, you know,

it can be a really long process for a lot of people and it could be something that, uh, you have to be really patient with. And somebody might even be, you know, say, oh,

I took advice from this guy and like, I really just, all that happened is I started to get fatter and you might feel fatter and you might feel different than you did before. Uh, when you go from two Oh five to 215 to 225 and so on. But you do have to be patient. Like maybe it's going to take a little while for your body to adjust.

Maybe the training and the nutrition, you know, will come together at some point and you will actually recognize that by being in this caloric surplus, it does serve you best. It is in your best interest because in the long run, you're packing on a little bit of muscle mass, and at some other time, you might strip down the body fat, and it'll actually be easier to lose body fat because you increased your metabolic rate. Sometimes when people gain weight, they don't automatically increase their metabolic rate

because they don't always gain muscle when they're gaining body fat. In general, your body will sort of do that for you. In general, your body will do that for you because you are getting heavier and there's more weight to move around. But it's like not a great ratio. You know, so as you're gaining as you're gaining body fat, it's not that body fat encourages you to gain more muscle mass in this particular case. But it means that you're in a caloric surplus, which can help your training be a little bit better, can be a little bit more efficient. It's also probably ensuring that you're getting enough protein in to help with recovery and help the muscles to get a little bit bigger. uh, with recovery and help the muscles to get a little bit bigger. And so it's just going to take,

it's going to take time and you're going to have to kind of sit in there and just, uh, know that it's a big, it's a big process. Yeah, it absolutely is. And I think, um, what was I going to mention here as far as getting bigger? Ah, yeah, here we go. Um, for some reason, well, let me, let me mention this. I don't know how I'm going to weasel this in but I was thinking of just transformations that I've seen pictures of transformations and I think one thing that is very interesting is like I've seen transformations of like women that were

let's say that they're they were a little bit heavier they start lifting weights and they start dropping and then the body that they have after that like it's like you didn't even think that they had the ability to have that type of figure and if someone was looking at that before body they would probably assume there's no way this woman's gonna look like a

fucking fitness model or look like look like this but they had so much i guess just so much perseverance to train and just get better in the gym that it's just like oh damn that's you look like a fucking model like i've seen a lot of those i'm just like that's wild i've seen uh some women go from not having a butt to having like a flat flat butt to having a big old butt that's kind of what i was thinking i didn't know how to say but i was just like yeah yeah well it's interesting because we do talk we've talked before on the show about like spot reduction and like you know targeting you know things but like i've seen girls like post pictures and they're like hey this is what i used to look like this

is what it looked like now and you're like holy crap like i i honestly didn't know that that was possible me too because that's not genetics that's some. That's some lifting right there. I mean, it's impressive. It is very impressive. Now, to divert real quick, I was just saying a lot of people put limitations on what they can do on their body. I never knew. I always knew that, okay, after a certain while, you have those newbie gains where you gain something really, really fast. And then for the years on, things just slow down a little bit, right? It's just, it's not as fast as your first two years.

But there is a true belief, man, on YouTube, on TikTok and on Instagram from some of these dudes, there's a true belief that after your first three hard years of lifting, you're not gonna get much bigger. A lot of guys are really out here, like legitimately thinking that.

I've seen that comment so many times. I'm like'm like whoa where are these guys getting this information like i know the newbie gains go away but you guys really think that if you train hard for three years that that's first off going to be a majority of the muscle you gain in your lifetime and number two that that is because a lot of these guys are i've seen it where there's a lot of guys that are on tick that they're like 19 20 21 and they've already hopped on that's what i was going to ask if that's what it was for they've already hopped on and i saw this little i saw this little fucking kid 20 years old and he was he made a video he's like yeah you know i've been trading for three years and you know i did all i could within that three-year period i just figured that now it's the time like you know i can hop on i can you know because i've i've peaked out my development i was like bro are you fucking serious like you really think

you peaked out your development and and this isn't just this is a widespread belief yeah it's just like wild to me like no that is not true stupid well and the reason why the belief was adopted was so that you could get on some gear probably you know probably um the truth is is that like if you took anybody and they found a more optimal way to do whatever it is that they want to do they would gain regardless of what it is um if you know i wanted to learn more about biology, you know, and I just hang out with people that do that and I could learn it and I can go through intensive, rigorous study

and I could learn more of it. If you want to be, you know, if in SEMA and I wanted to be bigger and focus more on bodybuilding, if we spent two or three months hanging out with like Michael Hearn or Charles Glass or Dexter Jackson or something like that, I mean, we're not going to not make progress. I mean, we're going to make a lot of progress. And I'm an older guy who's been lifting

for nearly 30 years. And I could still make huge changes, changes that you wouldn't think were possible. But bodybuilding, bodybuilding is a really cool sport. It does show you that there's shit that's possible that people can do to their body. The reason why I didn't think girls could do that with their butts, I thought that had a lot to do with your hips. I thought it had to do a lot with whether your hips were internally or externally, like kind of, well, interior pelvic tilt. I thought it had more to do with that. I was like, well, your hips are fixed in a certain position, and maybe you can't, you know, grow it out.

Push it out, yeah. But there is some truth that you can push it out more with certain, with how your hips are built, you know, for certain people. It's going to be easier, but you can still build it out as we've seen yes you can yeah i think it was was it i think flex wheeler when he was talking about girls trying to develop a bigger he you know of course he's like all bodybuilder professional body he's like the gluteus you know maximus whatever and he said like it's just genetics like uh you know will determine whether or not it grows or something along those lines and yes just the cat yeah so but i was just thinking you know along the determine whether or not it grows or something along those lines. Just the cast.

Just the cast. Yeah. But I was just thinking, you know, along the lines of what we're talking about. Like if somebody, you know, if a girl heard that and they're like, oh, all right, well, I'm out. It's like, damn. Because, I mean, who else are you going to listen to, right? You're going to listen to us or Flex Wheeler. And that's why the genetics thing is really somewhat bothersome to me.

Because when you look at, like, I don't know if we mentioned this on air but like when i look at my family um the people on my dad's side of my of the family like none of them lift like a lot of them are just kind of out of shape you know they're they're but they're they're bigger they hold a lot of weight because they eat a lot of food so they can get kind of fat right and my dad never lifted but he was like a like he was just like a tall guy but he never really lifted right so for me when i started lifting it wasn't because oh i see that i have these genetics in my family i can i can i can gain some muscle no it's because like uh i really want to start lifting i want to start doing this i want to get bigger let's see what the fuck i can do and i did but i don't look like the other people

in my family and i was i was thinking the same thing i was like who else do i know like this and i thought of you because i mean your brother's lifted but i mean when you look at your parents they didn't they didn't exercise or have something like that right no so and by the time you were 25 i think what what age did you like hop on yeah i was about 25 yeah but you've already been lifting for 12 years and you were like 220 something at that point right right you had your blinders on you got really big naturally you looked really jacked and then you're like okay let's go right so it's like you can't this the whole genetics argument i mean i know that know genetics play a role, but I've seen some people where I'm just like, you wouldn't have thought they had the genetics.

Right. Yeah, genetics are a part of it, but what you do with those genetics is probably a larger part of it in the long run. Genetics can – you could have genetics that some you know, some people talk about, like people being privileged and stuff. Someone could be privileged and gifted some pretty cool things genetically. But the main thing with any sort of genetic component attached to it is that you find what you're genetically good at early. early and if you find the earlier that you find it probably the better as long as you stay interested in whatever it is that you're doing you started out further along on the track and now you're going to be able to continue to get further along on the track you know shaquille o'neal was gifted a body that you know no one else really has that same body right nobody has that fucking body and

it's it's uh but you know he he found basketball basketball young Kobe Bryant or any of these people that that you see, you know, that you would view having good genetics. It's finding what you're finding, what you're gifted at at an early age or any age really is is a key component to the whole thing. But what you do with those genetics is huge. How many people are six, four and 220, 230 pounds the way that, or 220 pounds, I guess he is the way that Tom Brady is,

you know, there's a lot of, there's a lot of people that are, there's a lot of that. That's a big frame. He was gifted some good genetics as well. You know, there's a lot of there's a lot of people that are there's a lot of that. That's a big frame. He was gifted some good genetics as well. You know, he could have been born five, seven, you know, and it would have been very difficult. There's not a quarterback in the NFL that's currently five, seven.

I think Drew Brees like five, nine. But and Doug Flutie was really short. Doug Flutie was really short, but for the most part, it makes it more difficult to maybe find what it is you're good at unless you are exposed to it at a young age. And I imagine that Shaq and someone like Tom Brady was probably exposed to the sport of football at a young age. And then from there, it's a matter of what you do with it. If you look, you know, if you're watching any Olympics and you start to see some of these athletes running and, and, you know,

I was watching some track the other day, I was watching some sprints, all the sprinters, they all have different genetics. All the sprinters had butts. All the spinners had quads. All the spinners had hamstrings. There were some differences in the size of their calves and size of their legs in general, the size of their arms.

Some some were more jacked than others. But they all you know, they all took a gift. They were gifted something that maybe started them off a pinch further ahead than others. They also were able to avoid some stuff that maybe other people fell into, like overeating, like they never got like real heavy, but they found what they were good at at a young age and they just leaned into it. You know, man, I want to mention something because it's like, we think of like Shaq, LeBron, we think of like these physical specimens, but there was also guys in the NBA like Allen

Iverson, Isaiah Thomas, Isaiah Thomas, I think a season or two had a, um, like a 31 point per game average, 29. You're talking about the more recent Isaiah, more recent Isaiah Thomas,

um, uh, like a 29, 30 point per game average. And how tall was he? Like five, nine. Yeah.

He was 10. Uh, I'll look it up, but yeah, no, he was, he was, it was him'll look it up but yeah no he was he was it was him and then uh nate robinson were the shortest in the nba yeah and nate robinson's another example of another great player right in a dunk competition too right i believe so yeah i think so over dwight howard right and alan iverson was just like this skilled ass dude right but but he was shorter than

everybody but he like people are like, as far as basketball skill, AI was one of the greatest. And he was also one of the shortest. And the reason why I say this is because everyone always is so focused on, uh, do I have a talent for this? Am I talented? And I think that, yeah, you do want to think about that, but at the same time, you want to just put yourself in the fucking ring if you're interested in it because like i was lucky that my mom had me play soccer and stuff when i was six or sports in general right but when i started soccer and for a lot of my years playing i wasn't the most skilled guy on the field like there were a lot of guys that had

much better footwork than me there were a lot of guys that had much better footwork than me. There were a lot of guys that had quicker feet than me. I, I, I wasn't like I was a starter, but I wasn't the best. Right. So, so, but I kept playing and I managed to play in college until I got injured. Um, and when I started lifting, I was 13 at that point. But when I went into the gym, I didn't look like I had some type of innate talent for muscle. I was a little bit chubbier since I wasn't able to run for a bit. But I didn't have this look where like, oh, yeah, you can gain a lot of muscle. I just was like, fuck, I need something to do because I need to be physical. So I dumped into it.

I started early. I had my blinders on because I had no choice but to be naive. There's no social media. I was able to grow. But that's the thing. It's like, people are so focused on, am I talented at this?

Do I have an innate talent? And that's one of the things that is part of a fixed mindset, focusing on talent. And if you're not talented at it in the beginning, most people with a fixed mindset will quit or they'll slow down or they'll stop. But the people that have a growth mindset see okay i'm not talented at this how can i get better

what can i do to get better cassio had this story about uriah faber when uriah was training at the gym and after every single role that he'd get fucked up and he'd always ask his opponent what did i do wrong how can i get better what did you Right. And that's why he was able to do what he did. And I think at some point maybe being reasonable too, and just sometimes understanding like there was an end of the road with soccer for you. There was an end of the road with football for me. There was an end of the road with pro wrestling for me. And I think it wasn't like, you know, looking back on it, I didn't have the same mindset that I have now.

You know, I didn't have some of these tools. If I had some of these tools, I think it would have been a lot easier. But I would also probably just made decisions a lot sooner because I would have recognized, oh, my God, like you're not quite as interested in this. If you're being honest with yourself, you know, you probably love soccer. I love football. I was fanatical about it um but if i was being honest it's like i did stuff for football i ran for football i lifted for football um i kind of ate for football but i didn't you know i didn't there was still another level that i could have gone to i could have definitely i could have definitely gone to like camps and got around more coaches.

There was just little stuff that I just, maybe I ignored it because I wasn't interested enough, but I didn't get around people that were way better than me. In my area that I grew up in, football was like, people liked football, but it wasn't like a thing in my area. And so therefore, as far as I knew, which again, I didn't look into it much, there wasn't like a thing in my area. And so therefore, like, as far as I knew, which again, I didn't look into it much, there wasn't like really great coaches assisting kids to like, you know, get to the college level and so forth. But I just didn't have that same mindset back then.

I kind of thought that I was kind of fixed to a certain body, that I was fixed to certain positions on the football field. And I, I kind of thought that I, I couldn't like grow past that or couldn't get around that. And now, you know, I recognize that like I could have worked on or worked my way towards whatever, uh, whatever I wanted to, but I think, you know, we, we adopt some of these beliefs. Um, like you're talking about, you know, these people that are adopting these beliefs on social media and these people are having kind of a fixed mindset. I think it goes beyond just them having a fixed mindset for themselves, which would be fine.

I think they're putting other people in the boxes, too. And I think they're saying like, oh, that guy's a bodybuilder. He'll never do good in powerlifting. Or when I went from powerlifting to bodybuilding, uh, you know, a bunch of people, a bunch of people kind of took a shit on us,

but Felicity's done. He'll never be able to do that. His waist is too thick. It's not going to work out. He's not going to probably, you'll probably get like in shape. He'll probably get on stage, but he probably won't get that lean,

you know? And, uh, no, you can take it you know i i took that it pretty much i think is about as far as i could go in in uh in the amount of time that i did it but i think that when you are putting people into a box that you are again you're limiting your own you're limiting your own capabilities you're limiting your own capabilities. Oh, that guy had to do that with steroids. Again, I think is a great example of that because you're, um, you're imposing your belief of how far someone can go onto somebody else and you're pushing it onto them.

So you could feel a little bit more comfortable with what it is that you're working on. That's a gorilla fixed mindset. It's like, it's like you're doing it in a sly fashion. Like, oh, well he's that he got that big with steroids or whatever. Or like he got that cut because he was using drugs or whatever. Yeah. That's, that's why. Okay. So I can do the same thing. I'm gonna go do the same shit. It's, it's a gorilla fixed mindset. You're just, you're, you are literally limiting yourself because you do your best to try to take away from other people's potential accomplishments.

You know what I mean? I'm not saying there are people that, you know, say they don't take drugs that do. I'm not saying that doesn't exist. That totally exists. But at the end of the day, I'm going to get eternally flamed for this. And I'm always going to get flamed for this. I believe Mike O'Hearn is the natty king. I believe he's natural.

I really do. Because at the end of the day, when it comes to his physique and what he's been able to do at 50 something years old, well, look at that dude. I'm just like, you know what? I want to be able to do that kind of shit at 50 years old. I want to be able to lift that. Well, I want to be able to have that technique. I will be able to lift that. Well, I want to be able to have that technique. I will be able to have that technique, but then what good does it serve me to be like, the only reason Mike's

that big and that strong is because he's using drugs for it. You know, the only reason his body is that resilience, because he's using some types of drugs for it, because that what's going to happen is if that is my internal belief and I drive that into my mind, then by the time I'm 50, I'm going to need to be able to use drugs and other things to do that. But if I truly believe that I can get there, I'm internally going to start taking little actions here and there to allow me to get there because I believe I can. think that people really underestimate how powerful the mind can really be. They really do. And they might think it's small at the time that they believe certain things, but those beliefs that you have in yourself and the beliefs that you have about other people are going to shape the way that you move and the way you think and the actions that you take. And you're going to end up in a certain spot because of the way you think and the way what you believe absolutely and

for me i i don't really care if he's natty or not if i'm 50 years old and i can do that on or off all of the gear i will be so stoked yeah but yeah no to me it doesn't matter because it's what he does is incredible and i mean the consistency like it's it's i mean it's unmatched no it's been that consistent well i mean there are people that are that consistent but i mean like we've seen it yeah you've seen it yeah don't believe we've experienced it yeah this fucking element's amazing right now which one you got i put some in my tea this morning oh you wild man what tea did you put it in i got got this tea from Phil's. It's Istanbul tea.

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I didn't even know this fucking possible. Right. It's things that, um, it's kind of like similar to hanging out with people that are better than you. The internet has kind of done that for us, especially when it comes to power lifting and comes to physiques and things like that. You see people that are on another level. powerlifting and comes to physiques and things like that,

you see people that are on another level. And I mean, look at, uh, look at the, uh, the guests that we had on Nikki Rodriguez, Nikki Rodriguez more recently. Right.

Um, that's some unconventional shit. As far as I know, like the, what the, what that whole entire, uh, death squad does right is unconventional.

They, uh, have a different approach to jujitsu than anybody's ever seen before and uh it looks like it's working really well otherwise uh people didn't know that was possible people didn't know i think in some in some circles people kind of almost originally thought it was like disrespectful right like no this is jujitsu this is the way this is done and they're like no no, fuck all that. We found something more optimal.

Yeah. You know, the internet's an amazing thing. And I think this also, once again, falls into how powerful the mind can be. And if you're listening, no matter if you're younger or you're older, I need you to really start believing in just believe in yourself and believe in just terms of in yourself, talk and what you actually think. yourself and believe in just terms of in yourself, talk and what you actually think. Because for example, um, when I was a blue belt, I knew that I was a week on the feet, meaning that like when I, if I would try to take somebody down, I didn't have good takedowns and we really didn't go over

many takedowns over at my school. Um, so I was just like, fuck it. Let me just watch a bunch of takedown videos and let me just like drill that into my mind because I know we don't really drill it much. So I might not have time to drill, but let me just drill these takedowns to my mind. Right. And it was before a tournament I did as a blue belt in SoCal. In that tournament, I hit two, uh, two pretty complex takedowns that I've never done before in practice. Um, and I hit them pretty flawlessly. It was like a Seonagi and something else, and I've never done those before, and it's not because, because again,

I'm not a grappler. I didn't start off like a wrestling or a grappler or whatever, but I was like, I was just drilling it in my mind, saying, okay, this is how you do it. This is how you do it.

These are the grips. That's your legs. That's what you do, and I did those literally just from seeing it and playing it over and over, and I believed I could and i think one of the big reasons i believed i could is because remember we had a conversation about john jones and you told me how john jones had the comment of like you know he'd do certain things

and people be like john how the fuck do you do that he's like well i watch youtube videos right and i was just like hey what the fuck that makes a lot of sense let me go watch a bunch of youtube how'd you learn how to strike like that? He's like YouTube, YouTube. He were like, fuck this guy. And that's legit.

That's real. He's the goat. But you see, this is an interesting thing too. John Jones learned a lot of things in unconventional ways. And yeah, he did get busted for taking certain things, but certain people will continue to just take away from him.

Um, and not realize how strong that man's mind is. Like people don't realize that shit. Another thing is like, yeah, I think that videos have made like learning things in terms of jujitsu massively beneficial. But one person's mind that I think is so interesting,

that is such a savage is David Goggins. Cause when I hear about the, the types of runs that he would do when like his fucking, he had fractures all over his feet and he was still running. I'm not telling anybody to take it that far, but again, I'm just saying that to emphasize the idea that the mind and the belief that you have are so fucking powerful that it can allow you to do things that most

people would think is not humanly possible. Yeah, it's pretty, pretty amazing. And if you were to simplify wrestling, you know, you were to simplify this idea of like takedowns, um,

it'd be very easy. It'd be very easy for you to be at jujitsu and think like, this is mixed. This is a, this is martial arts and this is one martial art. And like, I don't know how to take people down. So I'll always probably be weak at that.

So I'll just work on my game from the back. Right. Like I'll just, when I'm on my back, I'll, I'll learn how to be better at that. And I won't expend a lot of energy and even bothering to take anybody down. Yeah.

Cause I might get caught in a weird thing too. Like, so I'm just going to like be more passive. It might change the entire way that you like that you play the whole game right yeah it would and this is man this is see this is another thing where belief comes in um or when within a realm or within a field if there is a conventional belief of this is how something's done or these are how certain people do things or this is it it's very easy for people to fall in line because that's comfortable.

One big thing within jujitsu is how like in the ultra heavyweight classes and the guys that are really heavy, none of them can play guard. And guard is like when you're on the bottom, it's more of a smaller guy game. And big reason that people think this is because when you're a bigger guy and you're usually practicing at your school,

you're usually always on top because you're big and strong. So most big guys don't even- You end up there a lot. You end up there there a lot so most big guys go into jujitsu believing that they can't develop a good guard because that's that's a small guy game you know that's i'm big i'm not flexible i'm not mobile there's no way i'm going to be able to build a good guard right but because i got fucked up at worlds as a white belt i think it was a white belt i was like you know what all these big guys don't play guard let me let me work on that and now i'm known for having a good guard

as a big guy you know what i mean because i didn't believe that big guys can't play guard well i saw a lot of like like world champions like roger gracey uh bushasha um and there's a few guys at my school that like they, they were upper belts and they were big and they could move pretty well. So I was like, you know what? Nah, let me do that shit.

And now people find it really hard to get through my guard. And that's, again, I feel like within, within whatever bodybuilding, um, they're like young kids think that there's just a certain limit to how big you can get. And there is.

Everyone has a certain limit to how big you can get. But these people are now placing that belief in that limit on themselves and saying, well, I can't get that big. And guys like their YouTube channels that just they have such massive followings. And I get the they say that their intention like an example is this guy named filion you know filion right he's funny i get i like i've watched his stuff i'm like this is this is enjoyable but but at the same time i hear the things he says and then i i imagine if i'm 16 listening to this and i don't i've been lifting for two years and filion is giving me a picture of this dude that's kind of jacked you know he's not like he's not crazy big but he's kind of jacked and he's saying oh there's no way

this guy's not this big he's on the sauce you know he's definitely been taking drugs look how veiny he is and how like if i hear that that's just kind of pushing that belief onto me and what i can do and then now i, well, that guy is too big and he's too vascular and he's leaning around and he must be on the sauce. And then now I limit what I can do because of the general belief

within the industry. I think that's sad. And you got to recognize too, like some of these mutants have come from somewhere and they weren't always on shit. You know, someone like a Larry Wheels or something like that.

I mean, he was moving around Kevin Oak. I mean, um, even like Bradley Martin, Bradley Martin's a mutant, you know, like he, he looks great.

He's always in great shape. He's very strong, whether he takes or doesn't take or whatever. There's some point where he didn't take anything where he was still probably, uh, way ahead and way further along than, most people. Yeah. Well, we were talking about earlier with the takedowns and wrestling and stuff like that. You know, probably way ahead and way further along than most people.

What we were talking about earlier with the takedowns and wrestling and stuff like that, I think it would be interesting, like if you went to, I'm sure you're very good at taking people down, right? If you took down, if you tried to take down like 50 people, right? And let's say it's all people that don't have a wrestling background. The one guy that you would have the most trouble with taking down, I mean, maybe he's stronger or maybe he can point to other things but let's just say they all weigh the same yeah let's say this all have a similar history like they don't no one lifts or anything right no one's spectacular in the group uh one guy would just say well i just didn't want to let him take me down

like it was that guy's belief like i don't care okay the guy's guy's jacked and he has experience in jujitsu and i heard all that and one person might hear that and just be like well uh i should probably just you know kind of go along for the ride make sure i don't get hurt you know what i mean like so i'll i'll engage with him but if he feels strong i'm probably just gonna like you know just let it let it happen you know uh whereas some there would be somebody in the group who'd be like, I'm not letting this motherfucker take me down. And maybe you still have the skill to take that person down and maybe they don't have enough knowledge to avoid your takedown,

but they still might be a handful just for the simple fact that they thought I'm going to make this guy look bad. I'm going to give this guy trouble. I'm going to give him problems. I'm going to move my legs out of the way so he can't swipe them or whatever. Maybe they, whatever maybe they or maybe they only saw a couple ufc clips and they can figure out something or they can fucking run away or something yeah but that it would be one person that would have the belief like i'm not

gonna allow that shit to happen to me and maybe it just took longer than everybody else but again back to the idea of like just kind of try to simplify stuff. What, what does it entail to take someone down? You ever watched, like you watch the best people in the UFC, take somebody down. And, um, I know that there's tons of technique involved and I don't even have,

I don't possess any of these techniques, but from my, from what I see, cause I've watched every UFC that there is pretty much. It just looks like these motherfuckers are relentless. When a guy goes for a double leg, he might not get the double leg. Then he's just onto a single leg, and he won't fucking stop. And he'll hold onto the guy's leg forever,

and he's getting elbowed in the side. He's getting punched in the back of the head. That reminds me of Khabib. Yeah, just hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. And eventually, and again, I realize there's a lot of strength. There's a lot of technique. There's a lot of strength there's a lot of technique there's a lot of endurance i understand all that but at its base root level it's like that guy just grabbed onto that person's leg like a fucking animal and he won't let go it's almost like he's too dumb to know like you should let go at some point because you're getting punched you know but they just stick with it they stick with that belief

i'm gonna get this guy to the ground at some point. Man, let me tell you about how, okay, so I just thought of this right now, but I never really thought about it. All throughout athletics, you know, growing up, there were points where I was like maybe one of the fastest guys on my soccer teams. Fastest, like sprint speed yeah cool but i always had one of the like i was always as far as like long mile runs i was always in like the back of the pack and i was always like sometimes i was last like when we do endurance type cooper runs or whatever i'd be the guy that was like wheezing at the end because i didn't have the endurance i was really good at just being explosive and sprinting.

But when it came to endurance, I wasn't good. I believed I wasn't good too, because I'd always end up at the back and I, outside of our practices, I'd always be fucking trying to do runs and training. But like my body, I just,

I just really believed that I'm not a guy that has endurance. I'm a guy that gases out. Like here it happens again. Here it goes again. My legs are done. Yeah. I'm the guy that gasses out. I really believe that about myself. And like I, when I, when I finished up in soccer, when I got injured, like that was still something that I thought when I got into jujitsu initially I was, I was gassing, I was gassing, but something changed in terms of make me, when I started doing some more bodybuilding and power lifting and improving at those things,

I changed my mindset as I started focusing on those sports. And then when I went into jujitsu, I was like, all right, so I'm gassing out. And a lot of people think if you're big, you won't be able to have good endurance. Let's figure some shit out. How can we fix this? There might be something wrong with my breathing.

So I got that book, The Oxygen Advantage, and I read that and I started focusing on nasal breathing and and over time i was like huh i'm not gassing out and now i can honestly say like i have some of the best endurance i don't gas i used to believe that i was the guy that always gas out and now i'm not i'm the guy that doesn't fucking gas out i'm the guy that you're not gonna tire out now and people will typically say oh when you hold a lot of muscle it's easy to gas up blah blah that shit won't happen to me and it's just because of a i may have been the guy that gassed out but i seeked some some knowledge to help me figure out how to solve that problem because at the end of the day it's just a problem

that can be solved right and i was lucky enough to find it we were lucky enough to have patrick and brian mckenzie and uh all these guys on the show. And they helped me to figure out the ways to fix my breathing so that I'm not the guy that gases out. That's a good mindset. Yeah. So to change that belief, you just look at it like, okay, now I have a problem and I just need to solve it. And I know that when I was younger and I was playing soccer, I didn't Google what can I do to gain more endurance. I wasn't doing that.

I was just going to practice and doing what the coaches said. I wasn't going and trying to find the answer to the problem. I was just like, that's me. Most people aren't nearly as interested in stuff as they think they are. You're right. I think maybe David Goggins, I think, I can't remember if it says 40% or 60%, but like he probably says 40%, but he talks about how people, you know, they go hard, but their idea of hard is like 40%. But the encouraging thing is that 40%, like you still put in a good effort.

So you're not far off. Like you need to just continue down that path. And you don't always have to be 100%. We talk about that a lot on this show. I don't even think it's wise for most people to adopt some of the things that David Goggins has done. Like it works really well for him. But I've seen other people try to adopt, you know, this 4 a.m. training session and all these different things. this 4 a.m. training session and all these different things.

And then when things aren't that challenging, they can't, they can't, they have a hard time staying on schedule and staying on point because now they're not on a diet that doesn't have any carbs or they're not like, it's not hard enough. Like if I'm not going to go to jujitsu seven days a week, then I'm not going to show up for six months. It's like, whoa, dude, like, and maybe that's, you know, each individual's mindset. But, you know, I think most of the time people aren't nearly as interested in the stuff as they say.

When I hear people trying to work in through their thoughts and they're explaining to me why they're not losing weight, it would sound like really negative or really harsh for me to say, well, you'll probably figure it out on your own when you're more interested in it. And they would go, what? Like, no, I'm,

I, that's all I think about. Yeah. I've been doing cardio and I've been, and I lift and you'll probably figure it out better when you're more interested, you know, and they'd probably come back and they'd probably be super frustrated,

but that's, that's my truth. I know that's for me, like me personally, when I have a hard time with something, uh, I just, I can chalk it up to that and I can say, Oh, you know what? Maybe I'll be more interested in that some other time. So I'm just going to like, let it be. And hopefully it comes to me at some point. Yeah. What is it about that challenge that you just said? Cause you know, I i i usually i'll try to get here anywhere

between 6 and 6 30 but because it's just me and then now nico's coming in but like it always turns into 7 7 15 but when we were doing those like 4 4 30 a.m workouts i was usually here on time what do you what is that like why do you think the fun excitement of a challenge or what the hell? Things have to be challenging. If we said, hey, we're going to all deadlift at midnight, come in here at midnight, we would half way be like, oh, fuck. But we would probably get a bunch of people to join in on the madness. And we'd probably be like, fuck. Yeah. Like that's going to be awesome.

And we'd probably be all here at 1145 warming up, you know, like, yeah, it just sounds like a, it sounds like a good time, you know? Yeah. Sometimes things do need to be like, you do need the bar to be raised a little bit. You do need things to be, uh, you know, challenging and exciting. I think if you're like, yeah, I might get there at seven, maybe I'll get there at seven 30. Uh,

it's way different than saying like, all right, well, fucking 4am. And when you say that to yourself, I think, I think, uh,

automatically, uh, maybe I don't know how it is for women, but I think as a dude, you're like, fuck that, man, I can make that.

I could figure that out. Oh, they think I'm not going to show up at four o'clock. I'm going to fucking be there at four o'clock. That's kind of how my mind works on some of that stuff. But I also just kind of have adopted the principle of like, I'm just going to I'm just going to get a certain amount of work done every day. And I don't fucking care how long it takes or when it happens. It's going to get a certain amount of work done every day and I don't fucking care how long it takes or when it happens. It's going to happen. And I also am somewhat reasonable with it where I'm like, it doesn't matter that fucking much if it happens tomorrow.

Yeah. Because I put in a lot of effort every day. I work hard every day. And, you know, I'm just like it. It can happen. You know, if I missed three 10 minute walks for today, I know that I'll probably do four tomorrow. Or I'll get in two and then three and three and so on. I know that I'm going to be consistent enough with stuff to where it won't matter.

But I think the most dangerous word, one of the most dangerous words is when you say, like, maybe and might. Especially when you say it to yourself, like, oh yeah, I might be there on Saturday. Like you're not showing up. Yeah. Maybe I'll see you there. Maybe, you know, maybe I'll get in there at seven. Maybe I'll get in at seven 30. I think what you could work on maybe is just to give yourself a time and just say, you know, I'm coming in here, but I would also maybe encourage you to have a day that's like a floater day where you don't have to come in.

But I would try to decide the night before that way, because I think what happens sometimes is that, you know, success breeds success. But I think failure makes you feel like a failure. So when you miss shit or you get late somewhere on stuff, it probably doesn't matter too much on certain things, but like it accumulates over time and you show yourself repeatedly that you can't do something. You can't run far, you know, and you and then there you are running and you're like, oh, here we go. I already know this about myself. I'm a fucking loser when it comes to running far. I suck at this. And you kind of repeatedly are telling yourself about it.

I think one last note on the whole topic is sometimes people aren't even really working on certain things at all. Like they're not even investigating or thinking about it at all. They just want to like be better at it. They're super frustrated with something and they bring it up to you and they bring it up to you and they bring it up to you. And then you have suggestions here and there. And all the suggestions are met, you know, with a semi-automatic weapon. You know, they shoot all your ideas down and you're like, I know it's frustrating to hear somebody to try to fix your problems all the time. But it's like, damn, you know, like you mentioned something. I mentioned a couple of things that I thought would would help i'm not trying to hurt you trying to assist you and you just shot down every fucking idea that i have yeah no there there's a lot of that let me ask you um

you mentioned the words maybe and might uh what are some other words that you're very careful with when you use them like Like when you say something, you're like, Oh shit, I gotta be careful. Cause I think this can, I think the, the,

the things that people say and the things that people think sometimes they don't even know that that's holding them back. Like they don't know that saying I might do that is, can be problematic and in the long run, or I'll, I'll, I'll try and see what happens. Um,

or I'll do that. And maybe, maybe it'll work. They don't realize that some of this vocabulary is already setting themselves up for failure. And the way you speak is going to be a big deal. So what do you try to avoid saying? So people can maybe write this down and not say it. I work on, I work towards eliminating words.

I work towards eliminating words, but like sometimes it's difficult to completely eliminate them because they are, they have multiple meanings. You know, the word try, it seems like is, is a fairly innocent word. I don't think there's a reason to completely eliminate it.

Yeah. Um, because, uh, but what is, what does try do? Like I might, I'm, because, but what does try do? Like I might try to go cliff diving with you sometime.

It's protecting me. Like, oh, he didn't say he's going with me. You know, he just kind of, but maybe you don't always want an out with everything. You know, maybe it's not always like you're thinking about going to the gym. I might try to going to the gym. I might try to go to the gym. It would probably be more helpful, probably serve you better to use different language towards that.

I'm going to go to the gym as soon as I feel interested enough in changing my fitness goals. That's when I'm going to go to the gym. And I'll know that I'm more interested in my fitness goals when I'm actually at the gym. But before that time, you know, it's kind of, it's up in the air right now, you know?

Uh, I have worked towards being more careful when I use absolutes, you know, uh, trying to say like always or never, like never, man, never can be, never can be never can be really uh

really brutal and my my wife is uh somebody that she will just like let go she'll just like she'll just say what the fuck's on her mind, which is amazing. It's awesome. It's like awesome being with somebody like that who does not care. You know, she'll just, she just wants to tell you how exactly how she feels or exactly how something is. Yeah. But then when she says it,

I have to kind of like sometimes back her up and say, well, that's not necessarily always the case. And then she's like, Oh yeah, it's not, you know, I can't always do this. It's just, you can't always do that. But there's that word can't, you know, it gets thrown in there.

But you just work towards making the language better for yourself. You work towards having, all you're really trying to do is to take all the internal dialogue that you have, you're just working towards having it serve you better that's really all you're trying to do and then in terms of the things that you hear

and the things that you read and the things that you see and the things that you think about yourself you're doing the same thing with all those things how do I interpret these things to serve me better? Not only to serve you, like you're trying to be selfish or anything like that, but how do I take this information to be more helpful to me? So again, like using the scenario of like going into the ocean, it's not beneficial to be like super nervous that you might die yeah now is it useful to know that the the ocean is very dangerous you should never turn your back on the ocean that you need to watch

out for bigger waves like there's a fucking possibility that there's a shark in there like that is useful information to have going in in case something does happen in case you do need to be uh aware but it's not useful to like be panicky about it the whole time shit like that is some of the things i've been working on for the last couple years yeah what happened sorry i didn't mean to cut you off but uh you and uh chris were training you said something and he called you out on it. Yeah, we went to do a workout the other day and I think, oh, he said, he said, let's do some, let's do some chest. And I said, I can't do that because I did it like two days ago.

And then he's like, you can. And I was like, motherfucker. I'm like, you got me. I was like, yeah, I was like, you're right. And yeah, it just burned me all day. I was thinking about it. I was like, fuck, he just totally, it's like, damn, he got me.

But you know, it's good. It's good to have people keep you in check because sometimes what we say is like totally ridiculous or totally false. And it is sometimes just conversation. Sometimes we're literally just talking back and forth. But when somebody says they can't do something or when someone says, oh man, I was really worried or nervous about it. I think it's,

I think it's good to occasionally say, what is it that you were actually nervous about? And then, and then give, you know, give them some compliments towards why you think that they might, they possibly shouldn't feel that way. Like,

I don't think you should feel that way, man. Like you're, are you serious? Like you't feel that way. Like, I don't think you should feel that way, man. Like, are you serious? Like, you really feel that way? Because I think you're actually really good at A, B, and C. I mean, you're not lying to anybody. You're sharing the truth with them. You're not trying just to pump them up for no reason. Somebody's nervous to go and talk to their boss about something,

you say, oh, that's great, man. You should actually go and talk to their boss about something and say, Oh, that's great, man. You, you should actually go and talk to him. I don't think, I don't think you should be nervous about it. Cause I think you're worth what you just said. You should go talk to him about it. Be great. You should absolutely reframe your language to give yourself a shot. You know, don't say I can't do that. Maybe say I can't do that right now. Maybe how can I figure that out? I think it's, it's, this is,

this is an interesting thing um in my in my last relationship um my let's say when when my ex used to think say that they couldn't do something i'd always say no this is how you can do it this is awesome you know you absolutely have that ability but they held the belief and they thought i was always pumping them up or not being real just because it was like i was so like no you can you can so they thought that like i wasn't being genuine but like that's i truly believe that that's like telling your significant other that they're pretty so like oh you say that all the time right it's like but no i fucking think you're hot yeah right like you don't know how I'll say like, okay, maybe I should stop saying it.

I don't know. Right. So if you're someone on the receiving end of encouragement, take the encouragement and then reframe the way you speak about yourself. Don't say I'm not smart. I'm stupid. Don't say I don't have the talent for that. Don't say I'm not big enough for that.

Or don't say I can't. If there's something you, you really actually want to do, or you look at something or you look at what somebody's doing and you're admiring it instead of thinking of all the limitations or maybe all the advantages that person had, Oh, they came from a rich family or they had two parents or this or that fucking just be like, Hmm, what are the, like, what did they do in their life that, that made them do that? Or that allowed them to do that? What books maybe have they read? Like that's, that's a big reason why i always ask what books people have read because i can give me an idea into how they think and like what's going on up here maybe what stuff they've paid attention to i'd also maybe try to recognize the audience you

know this person that may be spitting this out to you sometimes people just sometimes they just want to like be a little negative and they want you to kind of like wallow in that with them a bit, you know, they, they, they're, they're kind of looking for that, but there's, uh, you know, there's things that you can say maybe like, rather than just trying to, I think sometimes what can happen is that if I share with you an experience that I'm struggling with, sometimes I think people feel a little bit attacked because like, why do you all of a sudden have the solutions to it? You know, like, and, and why, like, I don't really maybe even want you to fix all my problems. I was just, I was just venting, you know,

I was venting about how I have this issue. But I think, so understanding that the person that is receiving the information, it might not be landing on them. Well, they may not be in a in a space like, oh, man, you struggle with alcohol. You should you just say, oh, you should stop drinking. I was like, it's like, well, yeah, yeah. Or maybe you should get it. You know, stop being around people that drink. There's all kinds of really logical, oh, man, you're trying to lose weight.

You should probably eat less. There's tons of things you could throw at somebody that are very logical, reasonable, things that would actually maybe even work. But at the same time, I think sometimes people's defenses are put up but what you could do is you could try to put it back on them and say oh my god dude like that's horrible man i didn't know you're struggling with that like that's that's shit man i i don't know what i would do in that situation but like what do you think you can do to improve it that's a good you know what i mean like what like and they could say i don't know man i'm i don't really fucking care at the moment i'm just pissed you know and then you just you're like all right well that conversation that

conversation's done you know you kind of get an idea but they could say uh i don't know maybe i should go get help or maybe i should go to a seminar or maybe i you know and then you could say actually i know someone that does that. I know people that are in that field. And if you're ever interested, I could lead you towards that, you know, trying to be as like, I don't know, just out of the picture as you can without, you know, thinking you're an expert. It's hard for me because I love philosophy stuff. So I hear people saying stuff and I just like clench my fist. There's a meme.

That's like a guy like that. Oh, yeah. He's waiting to speak. It's this white boy. He's just like veins popping everywhere. Yeah. It's kind of what happens to me. I'm like, but then I'm just thinking, well, they just haven't.

They're not ready for that. Well, they may have not read some of the things I've read. They may not have been around some of the people I've been around. And they also might not fucking care. Absolutely. They just literally might not fucking care. Yeah. I'm over here cracking up because you're saying like, oh, you want to quit drinking?

Well, just stop. We have this ceiling fan at my house that doesn't work. And I'm like, yeah, the switch is over there. And since we moved in, it hasn't worked. fan at my house that doesn't work and i'm like yeah the switch is over there and i guess it's since we moved in it hasn't worked and my dad looks at and he's like have you pulled the cord and i'm like i didn't even think about that wow but uh sorry so i'm over here cracking up about that um he's definitely the person that could also like rip the thing down and fix it but what you were saying in semo about like um you know uh whoever it was in your life that was like you were hype not hyping them up but they thought you

were gassing them up and yeah like if you are on the receiving end does it matter like like do you does it really like if somebody is bullshitting like you can still take that and then also use it as fuel you know like oh if in sima's over here saying like oh dude you can be on the olympia stage i i mean you know what i mean like i can take that and be like well shit I can at least look good for fourth of July this weekend yeah as long as it's not hurtful yeah yeah exactly that's what I mean you know I just think it wouldn't matter whether or not they are being honest like you can still take that and use that as like some motivation it's hard to believe that someone believes in you if you don't believe in yourself. Like you can hear all that stuff,

but if you truly don't believe, if you believe in yourself, then you'll think that you'll, you'll think that people aren't being genuine with you, you know? Um, but you know, the,

I, I think we had this conversation on another podcast, but yeah, sometimes someone just wants a bit of empathy and I get that, you know, we can't, we can't all be out here just trying to spit advice. So I understand that sometimes you just got to be there and be an ear. Right. But I do like what you said there asking them, Oh, well, that's, what do you think you're going to do about it? Or not, maybe don't say,

what are you going to do about it? Not like that, but like, well, what do you think the answer is? Just something, right. Cause yeah, you'll know. Yeah. They might say like, if it is alcohol thing, it's like that but like what do you think the answer is just something right because yeah you'll know yeah they might say like if it is alcohol thing it's like every time i get with my buddies we all get drunk oh it's like hmm you do that every every wednesday after softball yeah whatever it is yeah man but yeah shoot shit you know you mentioned uh one thing i love uh hearing Yeah, man. But yeah. Shoot. Shit. You know, you mentioned, one thing I love hearing you talk about jujitsu is like the instant error correction that you get from jujitsu. You go for something and then you end up in some other hold and you're like, that didn't work. You know, or you try to get out of something and then you were like, was that guy just trying to put me in something?

So that ended up in this other thing. And you're like, fuck, I think he was because you're thinking a couple moves ahead a lot of times. Right. Yeah. But in our own day to day and in our own lives, we, we learn a ton from error correction. We learn a ton from like, you kind of mess something up and hopefully you can learn from that.

And that's where you're, hopefully you're changing, hopefully you're working on correcting those errors and hopefully you, while you may have some beliefs, hopefully those beliefs are like things that you can move around and shift around. I mean, there's things we've talked about on the show

a bunch of times about like we didn't believe that intermittent fasting made any sense. Sounds dumb. I'm sure when we talk to our guest coming up, John Anderson, he'll probably think it's dumbest thing you ever heard of because we like, you know, we adopt certain beliefs to serve us and then we just we hold them and we, we run to the end zone with them thinking that, you know, these are the things that we have to cash in on.

And these are the things that we have to be, uh, married to forever. But whatever the thing is that you identify with and whatever the principles and beliefs and concepts that you have now, those things can all, they can all change. You believe that you were,

uh, a big guy and that because, Oh, I'm 230 pounds and no one else on the soccer team is two 30. So of course I'm going to be tired. It's like, that doesn't, that, that's not helpful. Like maybe, so maybe for you, maybe you have to run, maybe, maybe some of the guys on the soccer team don't have to run at all. Yeah. And maybe their conditioning is fucking awesome. Maybe some of the other guys in jujitsu are the same way or whatever it is.

But like, if you're the guy that has that struggle in that area, maybe you have to work on it like three times more than everybody else does. I felt that way in school. I had trouble reading. Things were slower. It's like, okay,

well your homework might take rather than taking an hour. It might take three hours. Yeah. It's just the way it is. You want to pass? Are you interested enough in passing? Or do you want to just fail and not get to the next grade? So I think each person, it's a little different.

But you can change and you can grow and you can get smarter and you can get stronger. You can have better stamina. These are all things that are available to all of us. What position did you play in soccer? I had a center backer point striker because I had the very fast speed to go in either direction. So even if somebody would get past me, I could catch up to you. You'd be a nightmare. I could catch up to you.

But this is one thing that I learned from my mom because, and I've taken this everywhere, and it's made things very easy for me to learn if I actually was interested in learning them. When she would take me to those classes as a kid, my mom would be the person in the class who would ask the most questions because she took the classes with me. She didn't just send me to the class. She went in those piano classes, those music theory classes, and she took them with me. And the thing I saw from her is that she would be the person who would ask the most questions in the class. The teachers would sometimes get annoyed with her. They'd look at her and be like okay another question

she's like yeah can you explain this and yeah like she'd ask hella questions i'd be like mom but at a certain point i started doing the same shit um and i ask a lot of questions so i say this because at the last jujitsu tournament I went to in the absolute division I won my first two matches and then I lost by two points to this guy he was like 19 he's been doing jujitsu since he was like five so he's been doing jujitsu for a long time but lost by two points I didn't necessarily feel like I was massively outclassed but literally right after the match I saw him he went over to his corner he was super tired and then I went and his family was right there and I was just like I was like, dude

What did you notice in that match? Like like I first off I congratulated him. I said that was an amazing match was like tell me What do you think allowed you to get allowed you to beat me in this match? And he told me exactly what he thinks I did wrong and then we followed each other and now we're cool Like it like he's a cool, dude But I want wanted to know right at that moment, what the fuck do you, as my opponent, what do you think I could have done? And he told me, I was like, that actually makes a lot of sense. Not going to make that mistake again. Most people aren't going to go to someone who just beat them and ask them why you beat me.

I do the same shit in practice. If somebody manages to do something on me, how'd you do that? Why'd you do that? How'd you get in that position? If you're relentless with asking questions and figuring out the answers, there's nothing you can't figure out. And I got that from my mom, right? That's exactly, that's that parental example. So if you're a parent, if you're a parent, feed your kids with that mindset because it'll make the biggest difference for them as they get older. Imagine doing that in business. Somebody's in the same business as you call them up cold call.

Hey man, you you're really fucking good at what you do. How are you kicking our ass all the time? They might not want to share it, but you don't have any idea. Like you don't know. Yeah. And then maybe you could find somebody else that,

that has, you know, business experience that's advanced. You know, if you can't get the information from your direct competitor, because it might be a little bit different than sport. But a lot of times people do want to see you get better. A lot of times people want to see improvements. You know, I think in that case, that's a great example of it. Like that guy didn't that guy could have been like, you know what, man, like I don't, you know, I don't share that kind of stuff. I've been doing this since I was five and

I, I had to learn it and earn it myself. But I would love to tell you what you did wrong, but I, you know, I want to, I want to keep some of this stuff to myself. It'd be really rare that you run into people like that. You know, people that have apparel businesses or people that are in the fitness industry, sometimes it might not be wise to go to your direct competition, but you can probably find someone that's a little bit more indirect and they'll probably give you a lot of information. Sometimes people aren't comfortable giving away certain information, but, um, you know, I have friends in the industry and Matt Vincent and Kelly Sturette and like, we've shared everything.

You just, we don't, we're not, I'm not concerned. You know, I can give other people information and I'm not like, oh my God, what's going to happen if they do like way better than I do. I'm just like, I'm just going to keep doing things the way I do them. And hopefully I can keep growing.

And there's, there's not a, there's not a limit on how much success is out there. Yeah. There's not, you know, just cause somebody else made a lot of money doesn't mean that you can't make a lot of money. Just because somebody else is, you know, winning jujitsu tournaments doesn't mean that you can't figure out a way. There's a lot of success out there to be had. And I think we sometimes are closed off to even asking a good question like you mentioned.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. We got to get you out of here, Mark. All right. Yeah, you're on another podcast. times are closed off to even asking a good question like you mentioned. We got to get you out of here, Mark. All right. Yeah, you're on another podcast. So thank you, everybody, for checking out the live stream. Sincerely appreciate it. It was a cool conversation amongst the humans in here. So, yeah, if you guys want to catch another live podcast, make sure you hit the bell notification.

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