Mark Bell's Power Project - How To Keep Your Penis Healthy For Life (Not What Doctors Say!) - Alex Kikel || MBPP Ep. 1105

Episode Date: October 7, 2024

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We're going to start out with some penis talk. You said there's a lot of things you can do for your penis. Or were you talking about there's a lot of things you can do for my penis? Both. Doing those basic manual stretches. I've had a lot of people gain a good half inch to a full inch in girth. As long as they'll you do the next steps. It'll get so bad where someone may have a four inch flaccid hang. And it will literally atrophy to a half inch.

And why does this happen? That could be from lion's mane. Like supplement lion's mane. Yeah, it's terrible. It's life. It's almost life ending. A lot of people get very depressed over it. Daily, Cialis. If somebody's utilizing these things too much, there could probably be some negative outcomes, I'm imagining. You can have this non-responder effect to any drug after you hit a certain threshold. The problem is no one knows what their threshold is.

You've worked with people that have intimacy issues. What are some other things that you think people can do from health tactics that you use that could be beneficial there? Go outside for a 10 minute walk before you take that walk take horny goatweed and you start Remembering and talking about the first time you guys were together The goal is honestly to have couples rushing back to their house because they're getting so aroused Anyway, we're gonna start out with some penis talk Hey, yeah, I said there's a lot of things you can do for your penis or were you talking about?

There's a lot of things you can do for my penis both were you talking about there's a lot of things you can do for my penis? Both. Okay, good. Depending on if we're being on camera or off camera, you know? That's right. But yeah, so if we look at the basic modalities starting off, like everyone knows about the penis pumps and all that fun stuff. If you just look at the penis architecture and that fibrotic tissue that can occur, the scar tissue that can occur. What we're looking at is literally trying to manually manipulate that.

So the simple basic stretches, the manual manipulation, the bending, twisting, things like that, doing those basic manual stretches five or 10 minutes a day starts to break up a lot of that fibrous tissue that can really blow it up, right? Wait, so you're saying that guys that are jelking are actually- No, that's, yeah, basically.

Okay. Yeah, so we're doing that- You guys are onto something. We're doing that first. Those jelkers. Then what you're saying that guys that are jelking are actually... No, that's... Yeah, basically. Okay. Yeah. So we're doing that. You guys are onto something. Those jelkers. Then what you're actually doing... Don't say us. Yeah, so you do that. Keep your jelking up, guys. Seriously, you should though.

Yeah. As long as though you do the next steps. Okay. So the next steps, number two, will be get a decent sized C ring. So, I try not to swear, so, you know, C ring. Gotcha. Put that on the area. It keeps all that blood and that engorgement in the area.

We are then either going to before that or after that, depending on how much your own manual manipulation gets you more blood flow down there, would be the actual penis pump. But let the cool question, desensitized cock ring, desensitized, what does that mean specifically? What do you mean desensitized, cock ring, desensitized, what does that mean specifically? What do you mean desensitized? Because you mentioned desensitized searing.

Oh, I said I don't swear. So I'm not gonna say COCK. Oh, so just a searing. I thought it was like a desensitized searing. No, no, no. Okay, I was like, what is a desensitized searing? It's the special stuff. Okay, just a searing, gotcha, okay. But yeah, justized C ring? It's the special stuff. Okay. Just a C ring. Gotcha. Okay.

But yeah, just the basic C ring. A little piece of rubber. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Starting off on the right foot over here. Oh, you're Googling it like... It's so great. Adamneve.com backslash 9776. Misinformation. But yeah, no, so you literally start off that simple. Manual manipulation,

break up some of that cartilage tissue Potentially penis pump after that seething after that or vice versa depending on how you respond to it And the whole point is you're breaking up the area and you're bringing blood flow nutrients We say hemodynamics because that's blood oxygen different proteins Like there's so many other cool things in blood trying to get that engorgement down there Just off of doing that the right way, slowly working up your pressure, slowly working up how long you're leaving, you're sieving on and how hard your stretches

are actually being. I've had a lot of people gain a good half inch to a full inch in girth, and then another one or two inches in length. So you have that baseline protocol, because like we always say, we don't just take something, we do something that we take something. You're doing that action, then you

can complement it with so many other things. Everyone knows the Tidalethylsialis-based thing. More blood flow, you can do that. Low dose has awesome long-term vascular benefits. That's cool. But everyone knows that. If we start looking at some of the other things you can actually do, we can look into the topical DHT creams.

Those can drive a lot of not just localized blood flow based changes, but a lot of the ancient receptor based changes that go on there. So I really got heavy into the adult industry and then over in the PFS community. It's like post-phenasterite syndrome, post-Lyans, all that fun stuff. And a lot of those guys still have genital atrophy.

So it'll get so bad to where someone may have a four inch flaccid hang and it will literally atrophy to a half an four inch flaccid hang and it will literally Atrophy to a half an inch or quarter of an inch. You know actually look like clitoral tissue And why does this happen? So that could be from Lion's mane. So there's a lot of different things in again supplement lions Yeah, yeah So keep in mind though this happens to 10% or less of people good So the vast majority of people like I've taken lion's mane every day in my life since 2020 I always will it's been the best like one of the biggest things for me. But there's always side effects.

Everything always has potential side effects. So finasteride, Lion's Mane, Ashwagandha, essentially even sulfurafen, anything that can manage that 5-alpha reductase enzyme has this potential to cause this like faux PFS syndrome. Finasteride is typically used for hair loss, right? Yep. To help slow down hair loss, right? Yeah, it'll manage that five-off or ductase enzyme. The problem with that though, is what we see over there,

is it basically abolishes that, and then all of a sudden, no DHT, it starts to feminize you, it starts to drive a lot of neuro-atrophy. And it's scary, but a lot of the people I work with, their accounts are basically, they'll take it in like within five minutes, they're running to the bathroom and they're looking at themselves in the mirror

and their skin will become less elastic. It'll look like it's melting. Their genitalia will atrophy. They'll start having the worst brain fog of their life. They'll literally start changing before their eyes and they're like, people freak out. It's like, what's causing this? And for those, that small subset of people people- Make sure you stay on mic there.

Oh yeah, sorry. For that small subset of people, like it's terrible. It's life. It's almost life ending. And a lot of people get very depressed over it. And I get it, it's tough. So I got really heavy into fixing genitalia because of the adult industry and then also in the PFS world. Because that's a big thing. Because a lot of people could also have no neural side effects, but then they don't have that peanut connection. So it's like, they're not getting turned on by looking at a female walking down the street. And this doesn't happen by the way, as often to females.

I'd say it's probably like, if we say of that whole 10%, maybe that are, it's probably like 9.5% that are males. Still happens with females. I have a couple of girls right now that it's mainly coming from lion's mane and Accutane. Accutane can dry out those sebaceous glands, which is cool to lose, you know, and change those, those acne's and those overgrowths.

But then you also lose the oil production in your eyes. So then they start getting dry eyes. They start getting macular degeneration. And there's a lot of things that can happen. So like with everything, every supplement, every drug, like no, actually read the pamphlet, you know, from the pharmaceutical company you're buying it from, read it from your doctor, know all the side effects

cause they're all very real. We had Dr. Mo on the show. He was talking about daily Cialis use. I think he was kind of saying like in the five milligram dosage and he was even recommending it for like younger people. Can we get desensitized to these things? Like what are things that we maybe need to look out for? Like I think sometimes taking those kinds of things

can be fun, you know? You just throw in a little fun here and there. But if somebody's utilizing these things too much, there could probably be some negative outcomes, I'm imagining. Yeah, and everything's always dose dependent and person dependent. So like, if we're looking at like the longevity dosage side

of things for like vascular endothelial health, you're looking like 2.5 to five milligrams, very few people are actually gonna be desensitized to that. Like they're not gonna have those longterm chronic downregulations. It's usually the people that it's having the extra fun, where I'll go 20 milligrams tonight, 40 tomorrow. I'll mix in all these different sildenafils.

For denafils, like you'll mix everything under the sun. And then all of a sudden, you start having massive down regulation. So over time, I've seen a lot of people have, and this can happen with anyone in reality, you can have this non-responder effect to any drug after you hit a certain threshold. The problem is no one knows what their threshold is.

There's no way of knowing that. So your threshold may be so high that you'll never reach there in your entire lifetime. Other people might be after one dose. So whenever we see that happen, we start seeing the disconnect from neural tissue to penile tissue. When that happens, what's the first thing

that goes? Blood flow. Your brain doesn't say, I don't need to reproduce. It doesn't say put blood into my penis. Don't put blood in my penis. I'm on a podcast right now. It's got to be nice and full, right? But if you don't have that, it's not going to be there. Then you get depressed and you're hiding it. You're trying not to show it off. So that neural connection goes down first. Then from there, you start seeing the blood flow changes. So then penile tissue starts to atrophy, testicular tissue starts to atrophy. And then all of a sudden, it's hard to just get an erection

to have a good orgasm, because orgasms are all oxytocin and dopamine dependent. So that dopamine oxytocin in the brain through the spinal cord, and there's like a dozen pro-rectal centers in men and women. In the brain, in different portions of the spinal cord. And there's like a dozen pro rectal centers and men and women in the brain and different portions of the spinal cord, we don't have areas in like the breast nipple architecture, men in testicles and penis perineum. It's everywhere. It's actually super interesting in

the female way we're kind of going off script here. But in the female world, if you look at how many different orgasms they can have, it's it's crazy, it's dozens of different ways that they can actually orgasm. And a lot of women that I'll work with, they could just be general population or athletes, whoever, you know, they're kind of like. They seem to be getting warmed up by now.

Now I remember our conversation with Susan Bratton. I think she mentioned 21 different ways. Right, yeah, it's so true though. Damn, look at those delts. It's warm now. Those orgasm delts. The natural delts. They are.

You could tell. How can you tell? Can you tell though? I can. Okay, tell me, what do you see then? What about them? So if you look at your heritage, those muscle bellies and insertions

are not always there, but usually there. So you have these awesome muscle bellies, these awesome insertions. If you would go side by side with someone who had bigger delts than you, but they don't have the same insertions, the same muscle bellies, you're gonna look bigger every time.

So a lot of African-Americans on stage, they pop. Like they look so different because their muscle bellies insert differently. And then you look at some, you know, white Caucasian guys and they don't have that same pop. They're big, but they don't have that same pop. And a lot of it is just, you know, tissue insertion oriented. And obviously Caucasians still have that, but it's usually more predominant in the African-American community. So for you, like, oh, go ahead.

Go ahead. I was going to say right now, when you're relaxed right now, like-wise, you're kinda like, okay, decent, nothing crazy. And then you do that, you change that small position, and now you see the roundness and fullness. So stay standing straight up, you should look bigger. I got you. Okay, I wanna come back to the sex thing, but I have a feeling that you've probably gone down

the rabbit hole of genetic differences when it comes to muscle building. Have you gone down that rabbit hole? Do you think much about that? A lot. Because we had a conversation about this. I'm just curious, like, what do you notice? What do you see when it comes to like athletics and just, yeah, bodybuilding? It's interesting because the genetic conversation applies for everything. So your genetic response to nutrition, your genetic response to pharmacology, to supplementation, to training, to sun exposure, to stress management, to emotional stress management, like it's all an epigenetic equation. So you have certain people who, and you see bodybuilding is the best example, right? They will turn pro and they've done it

all themselves and they'll go to work with one coach and like they get worse results, like things aren't working the way they should. Then they go to some other coach, same kind of thing. Then the third coach knocks out of the park, becomes Mr. Olympia, two years. That happens generally not because they're doing something so crazy, but they're just doing something different.

And that difference was what you needed, because that's what you epigenetically responded better to. So sometimes it's not the magical pharmaceutical compound because everyone pretty much knows everything. It could be the difference of very high intensity and low volume training or very high volume, low intensity training. It could be the difference between having a more

keto based diet or more higher carbohydrate, higher protein based diet. And then there's also the pharmaceutical side of things. Everyone will respond differently to testosterone, all the different androgens, the different peptides, the different growth hormones. Like there's always that response and sometimes that's it. But it's usually when you hear about genetics and bodybuilding or in any sport for that matter, usually it's coming down to like one thing like their response to this. And then it goes back to what we're talking about beforehand. It's also your muscle bellies, your insertions.

We talked about it yesterday at your house and over in the Olympics, one of the things that we do in the background is called 3D biological printing. So not everyone, but two of the people that did metal that I worked with this past year at Paris, we actually had 3D biologically printed different muscle bellies and cartilage tissue. Their muscle bellies? No, 3D printed. So literally just manufactured. And then you would go in, you would remove, you would insert surgically. And then now they can have the perfect run, the perfect sprint, the perfect catch. This has been done? Yeah, it's been done for a while now. It's done so much so in,

it's creepy. In China, they have, of course, I think, I actually want to go for everything though, like they have actual robots walking around in the 3D printed skin. So actual dermal layers on these robots that now with the whole AI, they're starting to put that into their brains essentially. And so there are- Is there any sort of regulation on these like 3D printed like ligaments or tendons that were, you know, cause you know, I'd imagine you can make them like pretty crazy, right?

There's a special technique involved with it that honestly I don't even know or understand. That's kind of apparently out of my pay grade because I just know essentially where that's done, how it's done, that it's a thing and everything, Honestly, I don't even know or understand. That's kind of apparently out of my pay grade because I just know essentially where that's done, how it's done, that it's a thing and everything. But the actual technology is not at the forefront. Like you can search and anything that I've found

has been redacted. Like you literally can't find it online because everything usually has to be patented or there's some kind of paper trail, but a lot of things are redacted. Even if you look it up, someone comes in and steals your computer in the middle of the night.

Yeah, right? You know. Some of those deals. You're just taking a poop, you go in, computer's gone. Top secret. When it comes to something like TRT usage, what kind of concerns should people have? Because we're just seeing so many people

linking up with TRT clinics, and I think it's great for people to getT clinics. And I think it's great for people to get their blood work done. And it's great for people to get recommended appropriate supplementation and stuff like that. But I do think there's kind of a lot of people out there like really just kind of fishing around for some testosterone basically.

And just like, what's some thought that people should have behind that? And do you think there's any negative impact or effects of just, I guess, maybe long-term TRT because it seems like once you go to it and you use testosterone, it's not like your body's like, hey, now we're on board with making more testosterone. And so when you come off of it,

it's not like you're gonna make more of it. You're probably gonna make less of it for a while, take you a while to recover from it. You're probably gonna make less of it for a while, take you a while to like recover from it. So maybe what are some things people should think about before they get too far down the rabbit hole of that? I think first it always has to be said that there has to be the basics in place. The training, nutrition, sun exposure,

like proper sleep hygiene. Everyone likes to avoid those things and we can see how much and how big of an impact those can have on us. So the basics first, then you have to go through your own blood work mapping and figure out, okay, where am I at naturally? You know, you could do some of the epigenetic tests. I've never done them personally because I, I'm afraid of having my epigenetic information out there because I don't know where the technology is going. Maybe one day there's this gene then, oh, we got to eradicate everyone with that gene.

Conspiracy theory, whatever, but I'm not putting it out there yet. What does the epigenetic test tell you? Like, everything. Like you could, if you're a, it's not like just like 23andMe, it's more than that. No, it's more than that. Yeah. You could find out if you're going to be a positive responder to different cancers. You can find out if you're going to be a positive responder and have a higher chance of having

different cardiovascular events. And that's why the apolipo E-scores and those ratios and those genes, those alleles really makes a big difference. Cause you can know, oh, okay, if I have this allele, this allele, then I can have more of a propensity to hold on to these fats, which at certain phases of life could be awesome

when you're younger or earlier and you get older. And then that gets kind of worse as you're holding onto these fats, not able to liberate, not able to move things around, you know, but without getting into the apolipo AEP conversation, going back to, we were talking about- The questions about like TRT. Yeah, general TRT, there you go. General TRT. So you have those basics, you do your blood work, you find out, okay, where's my HSCRP, my CBC, CNP, lipids, thyroid, know all the basics, know where your testosterone, estradiol is at. Once you have those numbers

printed out or some way put notes on that. So say my libido is amazing, my estradiol is at 47 or whatever. Most males are like 40 to 60, they feel really good. I respond amazing like I can have estradiol like 200, 300. My libido just goes up. Problem is extra dials that high. Then you could have potential problems. There's some potential risk for like cancerous growths, some fibrosis changes, but no one's really pushing up their extra dial that high anyway. So it's really a non concern. But you have this blood work and now you know, okay, I'm training this way. I'm eating this way. I know how I need to live my life to respond. Then I'm getting my blood work done and I'm knowing, okay, this is my baseline. Then from there, if you want to dip your toe into that pharmaceutical world and go through the HRT clinics, maybe it's starting off with something like an HCG or gonadaline or alleraline. There's so many different variations out there that just drive that intratesticular endogenous production.

And even actually before that, don't even go that route because that's still an injection. That's kind of that next step, the over-the-counter supplements, the Tungot Aulis, the Stanch, there's Fidozha's, like the list goes on and on of these endogenous antigen drivers that work super well. They really do. The problem is though, they'll never get you that super physiological actions. Unless if you are one of those hyper responders, because I've had a lot of people that are in the natural community of different sports, NFL, NHL, and they get an insane response off of creatine. They get a massive for a bus driver on testosterone, bleeds over to

more DHT. They can then on a normal dose of creatine. No, we usually work it out pretty high. You'll kind of taper it based on the person. You could start off with your traditional five milligrams. You also have to make sure how your gut responds to it. So you might have to switch between different varieties because everyone does respond to metabolize creatine differently in the gut. And that depends on gut biome and so many other things.

But you work out with five, see how you respond. Maybe take an intro workout, getting ATP resynthesis, your story more glycogen better. Like to me, intro workouts are really easy time. Most people are having their shake anyway. And then if you work up next week, go to 10. Say you respond. And then maybe go to 15.

And then maybe go to 20. And at some point, what you're trying to do is find out if either your gut goes out or performance stops increasing. And I've had people, again, going back to the Olympics, where they worked up to 150 grams. Worked up though. That wasn't, yeah, exactly. And there's no loading. 150 grams of creatine a day. I mean, I don't even know what that looks like. It's wild. It's ridiculous. It is. Scooping it in there forever. You're having it at every meal, shakes. So what exactly, because like I've always been good, a good responder to creatine.

I take 10 grams every day. I notice a difference. It's positive. I've never done more than that. So if somebody's a good responder, what type of differences will they see in their performance and hormonally? Is there a downside if you're not noticing any gut whatever? Because sometimes you get a blood test done and you have these high creatinine levels

and your doctor warns you, right? Is there anything to watch out for if you're doing this? As long as you are, and actually it's funny because you'll start lowering your homocysteine because if you look at creatine and choline, that metabolism, that's 50% of that homocysteine spin-off. So you'll start actually getting healthier with a lot of things. Now if someone does have a pre-existing renal problem, then yeah, EGFRs, HSCRPs, HSCRP will go up, EGFRs will go down.

So I use the extreme example of 150 grams. That's like two people that I've worked with. The majority like in a lot of the professional sports in the Olympics, they'll probably be like 30 to 50 grams though, so still a lot more than people are taking. But again, if you're not seeing the benefits and or you're getting the gut negative consequences, you stop taking it.

You know your, at least you know your cap dose. But someone like you, you have those round muscle bellies. What you would start seeing is more fullness, more roundness, your strength would go up. You'd start feeling better. So you'd be feeling for those gummies. Looking for those gummies. That's fun.

Yeah, creatine gummies? Yeah, we have some around here. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, creatine gummies? Yeah. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, I always use the powder at home, but we had some sent to us, so I was about to just gobble 10. I did well, you know. What you got over there, Andrew? Looks like you're building up some questions over there. I'm trying to build up this tolerance for this damn ankle pain

that I'm not going to get into. Before that, don't forget. Okay, go ahead. So that means, because everyone's known creatine's been positive, right? But there has been a surge of young guys like, oh my God, creatine is great. So that means that for some people, creatine is like a super supplement.

Yeah, to the point to where like, in the literature, people shouldn't be losing their hair. And yet if they're a hyper responder getting all these antigenic actions, we see testosterone in labs go up, whether it be free or total. We also see downstream DHT going up. We don't see change with estrogen, which is cool, but you start seeing this increased

motor learning from the DHT, increased protein translation, transcription, so just anabolism spilling muscle tissue from the testosterone. And then everything else the creatine does, just as that cellular hydrator. And we're just talking about body composition and performance, right? All of the health benefits of creatine. Hope for the Natties. This is exciting.

Oh, there it goes. Yeah. It's like groundbreaking. All the natural people are flipping out right now. They just went out, pulled their car off the road, flipped around to go to their local GNC. They should. And just know, cause not every,

a lot of people will not be able to tolerate like 50%, top out at 10, 15 grams. But you still notice more than five grams or three grams. And this is where it's tough because although I read every piece of literature, every book, everything out there, I never limit my scope to what's found in paper. Because if I do, I'm going to miss out on so many super bowls and Olympics and Olympias.

It's like I'm gonna make sure my athletes are taken care of and see what works in application. Yeah, that's gonna be funny. Why are you so much bigger? Creatine. You're lying. It's creatine. I mean, everyone's already gonna be upset the fact that he said like, yeah, you're definitely Natty. There are so many comments just said, nope, no way. Yeah, I mean, honestly, you can tell, you know, like all jokes aside. Yeah. And you are an impressive natural bodybuilder. Nope, no way. Yeah, I mean, honestly, you can tell, you know, like all jokes aside,

and you are an impressive natural bodybuilder. I've just also seen dozens of you, which is awesome. I'm not one of them. I wish I had your muscle boys insertions. Like I'm 250 now and like, I take my shirt off, I start posing like, I don't want that big. I get on stage, I like, I shrink, I get smaller because my bones are so big, my muscle bellies,

like my arms like 20 inches now or whatever, and they look like they're like 16. Like if we do a front double bicep, I know what size your arms are, but you'd blow me away. And Seema always looks big, but you look stupid when you're lifting. Yeah, yeah, when I get pumped. When you're lifting, it's fucking ridiculous.

Like I'm out of here, I just leave. Especially with the creatines. I can't wait to go take more creatines. That's wild. Holy shit. That's awesome. No, what I was gonna ask, so not to get into why the heck my foot's hurting right now, but we were talking in the gym and you know, like the holy grail of, they call it like the Wolverine stack or whatever is BPC 157 and TB 500.

But you mentioned a couple of other ones that I had no idea. I never had heard of them before. Can you talk to us about some of these healing peptides that seem to be working well for, you know, numerous people? Yeah, I got a lot. There's a lot of cool tools. So if we slowly will kind of summarize, right? We'll start slowly looking at one presynopsis so we know what's going on. So if we look at like BPC, first of all, just to start off, everyone's on the same page. All of these peptides do so many things. Okay, so I try and see what's the primary reason why I would utilize it. If you look at it from an actin sequestering protein side of things,

it's that actin, the scar tissue, really tissue healing as a whole. Whereas TB 500 is in my mind more of the neonatal gene player. So neonatal genes are essentially the genes you would have right now if there was no damage. If you got to this point in life with essentially no damage. TB 500 is pretty much the only peptide that can turn that on. So I see that unique aspect. I go, oh, okay. Actin, so crash training with BPC, so hill tissue. We go over to the neonatal genes and that's where we really start seeing the TB 500s. We then go over to something called GHKCU. So blue copper peptide, you can use it topically for your hair, for your skin. It's absolutely awesome.

But what it also does whenever it's injected, again, it does tons of things, but one of the things that drives stem cell migration. So it can pull stem cells to that area or globally. So red bone marrow will now donate more actual stem cells. So that whole process is CXCR4, SDF1, this basic receptor ligand based stuff, you'll basically skew that displacement

so that your red bone marrow will literally give more stem cells into circulation. Wow. To a specific area that you want it to go to? If you want to, yeah, all of these, if you apply them locally, there is a difference in actual magnitude of effect. A lot of these are in that somatropic,

like growth hormone-ish category. And they all rely on something called localized receptor mediated clearance. We're actually talking about that beforehand. And how they bind to the localized receptors and how they clear will give more specific non-genomic actions. And non-genomic basically mean like right now.

Whereas genomic being like more chronic. So no matter what you're getting to chronic, but you're also getting that localized acute effect too. It's really interesting that all these peptides, you mentioned blue copper, and I'm just thinking like copper and grounding, right? Like how popular grounding is. So there's probably some sort of association

or affiliation with that. And then I'm thinking like methylene blue seems to be like something that helps you to harness the power of the sun a little bit better. And then so many of these peptides, it comes back to like mitochondrial function. Yeah. Why do you think that is?

Why do you think that that's such a big driver to help people with health outcomes and even sports performance? So if we scroll back in how we evolved as a species from cyanobacteria, so literally just bacterias, right? And then over time that evolution process happened, we start seeing these lipid bilayers forming. That became mitochondria. So bacteria, mitochondria were brothers, essentially. So if we kind of take that and say, that's what we started as, that's our basis as humans, that's our repair

system. So there's also in our bodies, the stem cell conversation, superoxide dismutase. You start going on the list of plasmodicins of so many things that we lose the older we get, but it's still a lot of it is underlying. If there's ever a health problem or someone's not progressing in some way, it's most likely an inflammatory, oxidative or mitochondrial problem.

It's one of those three. And if you fix the mitochondria, that can also drive more repair. So if you would fix the mitochondria first, you tend to fix everything else. And then if you really want to get crazy in depth, which we won't go to today, but that's the quantum biology side of things, to where now we're fixing the cells at the cellular level with what we're doing now with peptides and things like that medicine 3.0. Then you go to the quantum biology, and then you're looking at the actual EMFs, you're looking at magnets, you're looking at frequencies, you're looking at vibrations,

and that's a whole other world of healing that I think that's gonna be the next step, because we as a race are gonna be able to live to be 100, 150, like almost everyone in the next 10 or so years. It'll be pretty common practice with all the therapies coming out. The rate of longevity research coming out now is ridiculous. I saw the other day that they made some sort of dye,

some type of food dye that allows you to like see through the body. I didn't see that. And some of that has to do with, and I don't know what's true. I saw it on Instagram, right? But it has to do with some of the light that the mitochondria produces

and it's kind of playing off of that. But stuff like that could be revolutionary. Obviously there's probably some dangers to that too, just as there is some dangers with x-rays and MRIs and stuff, you're getting a certain amount of radiation. So I'm sure using these food dyes probably isn't the greatest thing. Wait, is it a yellow food dye, tartazine,

to make skin transparent to see internal organs? Yeah. That's cool. I never heard of that. I gotta look that up later on. Isn't that cool? I mean, it's just like we're getting into some wild stuff and you're talking about 3D printing, you know,

some body parts. It's the stuff that no one ever talks about. And I think, I mean, just cause the information is not really out there and like I'm one person, I can only post up so much. And there's also like, there's dozens of people, hundreds of people that are putting on so much good content. I just, I don't follow anyone

because I'm just busy living my life, playing with my kids and everything. But like, I feel like there's a lot more people talking about this than I think everyone knows. How have you been on like the forefront of a lot of stuff? Cause there's a lot of things that you've been talking about for many years that are sort of just now coming to the surface

like DADA and a bunch of other things. Yeah, so I fell in love with education so much though, that like I would join different forums, like I would join Acromegaly forums and I'd go on and I would just ask people questions and then I would offer to pay them to see their blood work because I was just curious what their IGES course. John Cena has some of that.

Yeah, right. His giant hands and elbows and kneecaps and stuff. Yep. And there's so much you can learn from that. So I started going to all the disease populations. If I'd go to the ER or the hospital for whatever reason, if I really clicked well with the doctor, I try and find their contact information. And then I try and pay them for consults.

And so like, I try and learn from everyone in my life every single day on top of reading everything I can. Books, research, it doesn't matter if it goes with what I think is real or not. Because if I'm reading something that disagrees with what I've seen in application, it can still teach you something else. So like on this podcast, we disagree on something cool. I want to know why you disagree about it, because that might change my perspective.

So everything's like this is all through my lens. So I have to make up a lot of words. I have my own vocabulary and it's tough because a lot of this stuff just isn't being talked about publicly or it's not researched or it's just all theoretical, you know? Yeah. I wanna just real quick rewind to when you were talking about mitochondria,

you've probably looked into like red light therapy and some of the research that like a lot of people, you know, some people think it's BS, some people think it's legitimate from what you've seen. I don't know if you've used, is there been, do you find benefit there? Tremendous benefit. Yeah. So going back to the erectile tissue, I have a lot of my male and female athletes clients who again, whoever has erectile problems, I stand naked in front of it every day.

That's exactly right though. So what you do though, so it's cool. So let's just go through this whole process, okay? So we started off. There we go. So started off first, we have our basic exercises. So we're doing our tugging, our pulling, our stretching. We're then going to potentially penis pump. We are then going to C-Ring. Then from there, all that blood flows in the area.

There could be localized IGF applications. There could be topically applied DHT creams, there could be tons of things that you add there. Then you lay on the ground, spread your legs, red light therapy, shine directly on your genitalia. And what I'll do the next step would be, because that's awesome for the majority of people, if people are having like relationship,

intimacy based problems, we would do that therapy together. And then there is some foreplay and there are some things that they'll do together or someone start watching some kind of like adult material just to get that neurological connection to train them, hey, this is good, you should release dopamine, you should release oxytocin, that's what's gonna drive that arousal curve.

Wow. And so then they can proceed and afterwards, it's super important though that, you know, the vast majority of the time- Some wild shit, watching some porn in front of the red light With a penis pump in your hands trippy, you know But okay. No, first off. This is great. I'm gonna lift my balls against the red light even more sometimes I've always been a little bit concerned. It's like this is kind of warm, but should be okay

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Throbbing. Veiny. Get it. I break the tape. You've worked with people that have intimacy issues. And I think that's not talked about that much. So I mean, what are some other things that you think people can do from health tactics

that you use that could be beneficial there. As lame as it sounds, good old walks outside. Gotcha. So you would start off again, if there is intimacy based problems in a relationship, go outside for a 10 minute walk. Before you take that walk, take something. It could be horny goat weed.

It could be a Tadalafil. It could be the DHT. It could be so many different overil, it could be the DHT, it could be so many different over the counter supplements or pharmaceutical compounds. You take that, both of you, and you both go on that walk and you start remembering and talking about the first time you guys were together. You talk about what it was like,

what you were excited about, and you really relive that. If you really wanna get trippy, you add in like some Tiger Milk Mushroom beforehand to drive NGF, so you're getting more neural cascades. Fuckin' my Amazon list right now. Horny goat weed, tiger what? Tiger milk mushroom. Tiger milk mushroom.

That's a Neutropix depot. They have a really good one. Okay. Any, well, you know, let's keep going before I ask questions. Yeah, yeah. So you're doing that and then again, you're trying to train your body like, hey, I remember what it was like back then. Then all of a sudden, like the goal is honestly

to have couples rushing back to their house because they're getting so aroused. Like I've had a lot of stories where it's like, guy had to turn around because erection's starting. Or female is sprinting back to the. Yeah. Female's getting, she's producing so much fluid that then she has to rush back to the house.

And that's a whole different conversation about female ejaculation as a whole. Or I hate saying the word squirting because it just, it doesn't sound right. It sounds very vulgar, but every female can actually have that ejaculatory fluid-based response. It's a different type of orgasm.

So, you know, I have a lot of women where if we're doing these protocols, I'm not sure why. It's always- It's hell of a walk. Right? Yeah, best walk of your life. The demolition of sporting. Well, no, not actually. Oh, I know.

Yeah, I know. But the car, so I call it the car phenomenon. Imagine if it did though. Wait, cause the car is like vibrating and- So it's funny. So the anecdotes I always get once we start correcting sexual performance in females is they'll stop at a red light

and they'll have a spontaneous orgasm. Vibrations from the car, rubbing of pants on clitoral tissue. It just happens in a second. Okay. And that happens probably 70% of the time. Amen. Have someone fixed, you know, and that happens all the time in the androgen using world of females too, because they're essentially operating

like males, so all of a sudden blood flow, clitoral tissue doesn't take 10 to 15 minutes. It's like 30 seconds. Like guys, guys are 30 seconds, 60 seconds. I have a question. Okay, a few questions. You mentioned horny goat weed. Another guy came on the podcast, mentioned it, loved it. Is there a dosage?

Is there any negatives to taking it too often? Not at all. You want to look for the ichorin content. Actually going back to Neutropix Depot, they have a really good ratio blended product. It's that Icaran content that really drives a lot of the action. That site has a lot of great stuff. They do too, you know? And there, I always try and like,

if I use something regularly or I recommend my clients, do I always try and give people shout outs? Because like, they deserve it. They really do. How about the Tiger Milk Mushroom? Same place. Same place, but like any type of drawbacks to using Tiger Milk Mushroom? No, because so we talked about the Lionsmen at the Five Out mushroom? Same place. Same place, but like any type of drawbacks to using tiger milk mushrooms?

No, because so we talked about the lion's men with the five-alpha reductase. This does not inhibit or interact with that enzyme at all. So if you're kind of shying away from lion's mane, but you still want like the NGF mimetic, still driving that neurite growth, then you go with tiger's milk. Great for both men and women.

Yeah. Okay. And the tiger's milk one was the one where you mentioned if women take that, that's the bad battle. I mean, it can. It can, yeah. So that's if someone has a bad neuro connection.

Yeah. Yeah, no, it's for real though. Yeah, she doesn't have a bad neuro connection. Her neuro connection is great, but what if it's better? Throw a little bit of that tiger's milk in her coffee. She'll be like, tastes a little different today.'s milk in her coffee. She'll be like, tastes a little different today. And she loves her coffee.

I won't drug myself. You're a third cup. This is great information. Thank you, Alex. Yeah, of course. I see people sometimes walking on the beach and they're holding hands. And I've seen this older couple in Bodega Bay, they walk the whole entire beach,

which is like ends up being like three or four miles. They hold hands the whole time. They're probably 65, 70, something like that. I always give them props when I'm out there like on a run. I think that's the coolest thing. So I don't know. Like if you're with somebody for a long time, you may not always wanna hold their hand.

You may not wanna try to hold their hand for a really long time, because sometimes it can be awkward for various reasons. But I think a practice like that is a really good one. Like, oh, let's go on this walk and let's hold hands. It's so simple, but there's so many things going on in your body when you're making contact with somebody else. So something as simple as just holding hands

and going on a walk could be huge. It's funny, I think like one of the reasons why I'm so positive and so happy is because if I'm at home, I'm either holding a kid or a dog on my wife's hand. It's like always that connection. You're always doing something. And going back to like a lot of the longevity research in the communities, there's that whole un-talked about love conversation or actually having that physical connection with

someone, having that drive to love another being. That's where the consciousness comes in and starts changing that entire environment as well. So you talk to anyone who's been over 100 years old, and they have a couple of things in common. One of them is that they always had something to do, so they always had a goal. And then the other big thing was that they always had someone

that they loved, or a pet, or grandkids, or something to drive up that overall, not just recovery response, but that healing of the soul. As hippy as that sounds, it's that consciousness soul aspect that we really don't take into consideration. There's a third thing there too. Something to look forward to.

Yeah. Something to love, something to do, something to look forward to. That's exactly right. That's like a great combination of things. And if you do that, then you do everything else. Then you worry about the longevity protocols and you worry about the nutrition.

Like to me, before you even do nutrition or whatever, like you should have those basic things down, have your life on track first of all, have your loved ones. Because I haven't had a bad day, honestly, since 2020. That was whenever I had my gallbladder out, got back home. And then a week later was the shutdowns, which was the best thing that ever happened to us. I feel bad. It was so, I feel bad. It was so hard on so many people, but like I got out of that surgery and I was like, my wife brought my daughter into there, into the hospital. I was like, I'm never coming back here. This is not cool.

So we'd take walks, we would talk, we'd hold hands. And it was just such a big bonding experience. And it was like, yeah, this is what matters. It's my family first, work second, my health, education, everything kind of tied for third and then my own athletic goals. What happened with the surgery? What was it?

So my whole life I had a malfunctioning dysfunctional gallbladder. So I had barotesophagus, I had GERD, acid reflux. So barotesophagus is essentially that scarring of the throat lining. So you're basically going to get throat cancer. So I spent a lot of time reversing that myself so that I wouldn't get throat cancer. And then I realized, Oh, okay, if I want to stop any more acid problems from happening, I need to make sure that I don't have a dysfunctional gallbladder. It just so happened that I was pushing that prep super hard and bodybuilding didn't cause it, but it definitely didn't help. So, you know, ever since then it's been pullback bare minimum

type stuff, but gallbladder gave out, went to go into for the first surgery. And because I was so lean, I had my shredded glutes at like three or four weeks out, I was ready to go. You metabolize everything differently, every supplement, every drug, everything. So the anesthesiologist essentially misdosed me and I apparently crashed on the table. And when that happened, they were waiting for me to come out and they went out and told my wife that I might be a vegetable for the rest of my life. And she's holding my daughter in that scenario.

And I come out of like, oh, cool, surgery's done. And then she told me everything. Oh my God. I'm like, are you kidding me? You know? And then like waited two days or whatever, got the surgery done, no problems at all. And again, I don't blame the anesthesiologist

because you're not expecting a competition shredded body boarder to come in. You don't have those formulas to map out the equations. So like I never blame anything on doctors. They're doing the best they can. They really are. And like in today's society, they're overwhelmed. They're overrun.

COVID took a big toll on them. And it's more the establishment above them that's not putting the right things in the med school because they have like a day of endocrinology or a day of nutrition. It's tough on them and they do a really great job. Yeah, I've seen, there was a bunch of people that went to Congress and they had a petition

and RFK was one of them along with Cali Means and a couple other people who were kind of leading the charge. And one of the women that was a doctor from the University of Stanford, she said, I never took one nutrition class in all my years at Stanford. It's like, just how does stuff like that happen? Like that is completely absurd, I think.

Like, it just sounds ridiculous to me that a doctor at least doesn't gain any knowledge of nutrition or in some cases, they gain very little knowledge of nutrition and probably like a bunch of other things that you could do, like go outside and get the sun and things like that. That they don't learn that conventionally, at least for a little bit.

Because wouldn't that be the place to start? Somebody comes to you and they're saying all these things are going on, and you're like, oh my God, the person probably has high blood sugar. And then you would probably say, let's get you outside on some walks and let's figure out some things that you can do. What are things that you think you can handle?

Let's lower your carbohydrate intake. And you'd be able to fix them. I'm sure you have. I'm sure you have, you worked with people that are diabetic before and- All the above. They've been able to help them get off of the medications and stuff.

Yeah, we've been able to get people off of insulins, metformins, like all the above. And that goes for diabetics, heart failure, kidney failure, chronic kidney disease, like every different kind of cancer. I've been super lucky. I've been a part of a lot of really cool therapies and a lot of really cool people.

And it's, you know, the fertility side of things, like it's crazy to me that I can have that big of an impact in people's lives. It's just cool. Cause I never thought like, you don't think you can change the world. Like I never thought I did. I was like, I'm just gonna be me.

I'm gonna be happy and I'll just figure life out. You know, then I got my wife and my kids, and you start wanting to be a better person, and you wanna start helping this world out, because it's like, that's the person I wanna be for my kids and for my wife. And then you start seeing, oh wow, I was part of a team that gave this person their life back,

or their quality of life, or something along those lines, their intimacy problems, they're now not gonna get a divorce, and the children are not gonna suffer from that. And it's just crazy that I could be a part of that. So it's super cool, I've been very lucky. Let's dive a little bit more into the over the counter stuff because I think there's probably a lot of people listening. There's probably a good amount of listeners

that like taking their fair share of stuff that's not over the counter, but there's probably a good share of listeners that don't wanna make that jump yet, don't wanna go to the dark side. Maybe they don't like needles or various things. And so, yeah, what are some things, people that wanna perform better,

these guys both do jujitsu, so like maybe grappling sports, MMA. Let's maybe start there and then we can kind of get into like maybe bodybuilding, powerlifting. But what are some kind of over the counter things? I know we have access to things like carnitine and maybe let's start even on the side of like things that don't even need to be injected.

Yeah, let's start there. Yeah, yeah. So the big one, like cystis quadrangularis, that is one, you just say Cissus because it's ridiculous to spell. Literally it's Q-U-A-D-R-A-N-G-U-L-A-R-I-S, I think, Cissus quadrangularis. Sounds like you made it up.

Sounds like a Harry Potter spell. Right, yeah. Grow some hair on you or something. Yeah, so what it does is it actually drives articular cartilage mRNA synthesis. So all your soft tissue, talking about being in like the striking kind of grappling based sports, by the way, I call them all striking sports,

boxing, MMA, grappling, just cause it's easier. But in that world, soft tissue is getting damaged. Yeah. Your ankle, it's getting damaged. So, Cis-Cis quadrangulars dose, you could dose it a gram, two grams, three grams. It also works the faux proton pump inhibitor. So kind of like the big PPI is prescribed by big pharma,

but it works pretty dang well. So if you do have acid reflux problems, you could also use it for that. So again, everything has multiple different uses. You're just trying to figure out what do I need from it? Wow. So what about like, oh, go ahead. So in general, something like that will,

obviously people have different areas that are damaged, but over time of taking it, it could help repair cartilage. Yep. So, I'm also curious about this. For example, it helps repair cartilage. So what if some, because people, like for example, deep knee flexion, right? A lot of people have cartilage that's fucked up in the knee

and that kind of pattern hurts. Would working out that area through a pain-free range and using that, would that help stimulate because you're using more and you have enough aid? And you do that with red light therapy pointed on the area. So there's more mitochondrial action, more hemodynamics, more reason to say, hey, push this to this area. Wow.

So most definitely, and then you could also wrap it. You can also put penetrix cream on that area too. What cream? Penetrix, P-E-N-E-T-R-E-X, little white bottle. You buy it off Amazon, Walmart, everywhere. It's a blend of like Buswilia or Nica, basically just all over the counter healthy things for you. It drives localized inflammation so dramatically well.

And the cool thing is it doesn't have a lot of the other negative side effects, like we're talking about some other products beforehand. They can have some renal iPad problems. If you take it too often or their NSAIDs, like this is literally just like taking your basic vitamins, herbs, stuff like that. Wow.

And it seems like jujitsu and some of these grappling sports just take a tremendous, yeah, tremendous beating, but also just a tremendous gas tank. You know, you gotta have really good endurance, cardiovascular. And so what are maybe some things that people can take to kind of help with that? I'd say pico two is a big one. So pico two will drive that hypoxic factor. Yeah, exactly. You can drive oxygenation up so much.

So I've actually felt a difference on runs taking that before. Yeah. You got to watch it. So I was taking it for a while from my boxing. It will start jacking up your hematology, your CBC, and then I to create hemoglobin. Cause again, hemoglobin, you're carrying oxygen. That's what you're trying to get, but start getting too high. Things start getting too high. And then all of a sudden blood viscosity becomes a problem. So if you dose it higher, you can run into those problems. Most people don't, but just something to kind of mention. Peak O2, P E A K.

Yeah. O2. Oh, peak O2. Okay. Sorry, we're saying it fast. Picograms. What about, because you just mentioned it, you know, elevating your hemoglobin and having that really thick blood and stuff. Mine has always been thick. Before I've taken anything, it just has always been very, very thick.

I think it's due to snoring. What are ways you can recommend of like thinning that out and making it a little bit easier on my heart for pumping this thick ass blood? Couple ways. So first of all, what were your numbers? Like you know what your numbers have been at? How they stayed there chronically?

I can pull them up, but yes, they've been there forever. And since getting on TRT, they've only gotten worse. Okay. So like hematocrit wise, are we talking like 50%, 55, 60? Yes, in the 50s. 55? Yeah. Okay. So technically in the research world, you will most likely not be able to get a doctor to phlebotomize you because again, and that's a whole different therapy, we don't need to go down. But if you're like in that 55, 56% range, there's no correlation to like cardiac events or risks

or anything like that. The problem is you get dehydrated doing all the sports you're doing and that ratio of fluid changes. And then all of a sudden that goes up to 57, 58. Like those numbers start changing because you're dehydrated. So if you're in endurance-based sports though, like grappling is basically in the endurance strength-based world, you kind of want that thicker blood. So as long as your numbers have stayed the same this entire time, you're good.

But if you start seeing that upward trend, that's whenever you start having problems. Because again, it's slowly getting worse and worse. But if it's always been 55% hemoglobin, it's always been like 19, whatever your numbers are, it's been like that for years, that's just endogenously where you sit. But then if you are kind of worried,

like some of the chelators out there, like IP6, so it's an inocidal based product, that actually has a lot of good work at reversing colon cancer too. But then if you are kind of worried, like some of the cheerleaders out there, like IP6, so it's an inocidal based product that actually has a lot of good work at reversing colon cancer too. But that can slowly start to lower your blood count and make things a little bit easier to pump around. There's also the traditional baby aspirin. And the cool thing about baby aspirin, 81 milligrams before bed, I take it every day

for longevity purposes because it actually allows fatty acids to get into neurological tissue easier. Yeah, my hematocrit is at 55. Oh, okay. And what's everything else? RBCs? RBC, RBC. Where did you go? Where did you go? I just saw you. 5.81. Oh, okay. So you're barely in that elevated range. Okay. Yeah. And like I said, it's been there forever. I can look back at an older one just to see, but it's always had that big scary red flag, like, hey, you gotta, you know.

You know, and I have donated blood and I've done these things, but again, I'm like, I'm doing it to lower this thing that may or may not actually be high. You know what I mean? I don't know what's good, what's bad. I just know that there's this big old flag right here and I'm like, let me see if I can fix this.

And then you start to get, well, I start to get like varicose veins and I'm like, oh my God, it's because of the thick blood. This is not good. This is not good. But then you hear about like, you know, this is a way different thing, but like blood doping and stuff. And I'm like, well, maybe this isn't the worst thing ever. But I obviously I'm asking, cause I do want to, you know, kind of address this thing. Yeah, definitely. And that's so reference ranges only matter for you.

So we try to treat symptoms or side effects over reference ranges. Because if you're doing that, if you've never had any problem and your numbers have never changed off that baseline, then you know, like, okay, this is where I just naturally sit. You could go the blood donation route, maybe not so much to pull down those numbers, but because what happens is in the blood in the albumin specifically, you start to accumulate all those inflammatory proteins. So the therapy is called plasmapheresis. It will pull that albumin out and they'll replace it with basically new, fresh albumin. It's clearing out all those inflammatory proteins. So if you can imagine, like you're

always taking your trash out, but you're always leaving it in the garbage can, you're never actually having the garbage man come pick it up. That's basically what we're doing here. You're just, it's letting it accumulate. So you go and basically recycle it. And if you can't get plasma freezes cause it's not done everywhere, then you just do your blood donation every, you know, 52, 56 days, 60 days, whatever you fall into pattern wise.

And you're good. Yeah. So just again, so a year prior to those numbers, my RBC was 5.5. So from 5.8 to, or from 5.5 to 5.8, and then my hematocrit was at 52, and then it jumped up to that 55. Okay, so there's a clear elevation then. Yeah, so it hasn't been stagnant then. Okay, so in that scenario, that's when you are bringing in like a gram of IP6, usually morning, noon, and night, that'll start to chelate a lot of those irons, that'll start to bring down your overall hematology panel. If you would also actually start mouth breathing more.

So when you exercise, if you're very energetically efficient, your nasal breathing, that anytime you're like maximally exerting yourself, you have someone in a hold or whatever, you hold that breath just autonomously. It contracts your spleen, that contracts into the spleen,

then dumps out a wreath ofpoetan and red blood cells. So just the simple fact of nasal breathing, just because you're energetically fit, is also going to drive up a lot of that hematology panel as a whole. So blood's getting thicker because you're getting more energy efficient. So you actually wanna start wasting carbon dioxide,

start mouth breathing more. And the usual dogma is you wanna nasal breathe more, right? But in what scenario? In this kind of scenario, I'd probably start mouth breathing more. And the usual dogma is you want to nasal breathe more, right? But in what scenario? In this kind of scenario, I'd probably start mouth breathing when you train. Like not like crazy, but from now on, like openly open mouth, like start driving that process

just to waste some carbon dioxide and to stop having that spleen contract so much. Got it. For years on this podcast, we've been talking about the benefit of barefoot shoes. And these are the shoes I used to use back in like 2017, 2018, my old Metcons. They are flat, but they're not very wide

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Links in the description as well as the podcast show notes. Have you ever heard of the BossRootin O2 Trainer? No. The reason why I'm mentioning that is because it's this device. Shit. It's in there. I can pull up that video without sound. If you can, that'd be great.

I wonder if this would actually be beneficial. I use it a lot. So it's a device that you put on your mouth, and you'll have to inhale and exhale through your mouth. One side has a little flap where you forcefully exhale, and then one side has a hole that you can grade in size. And then the level one is this tiny hole. So what happens is when you start working with that,

your inhales will take you 25 to 30 seconds, and your exhales will take two seconds. And then when you work up to the tiniest hole, so you're taking maybe two breaths a minute, sharp exhale, you work up to the tiniest hole, right? So you're taking, like, maybe two breaths a minute. Sharp exhale, 30 second inhale through the mouth. Would this be beneficial for this type of scenario? Because what I've noticed is, as I've gotten better, you almost feel like this panicking sense in your heart,

but then it goes away, right? So, yeah, do you think this could be beneficial for that? And this is the device on screen right here. Yes, actually. Yeah. I used that yesterday. I used it in my cold plunge. Yeah.

Well, that's a good combo. Yeah. That's cool. It's meant to improve the function of your respiratory muscles, your diaphragm, and your lungs. It's meant to do that. Yeah, because you're trying to be from the lower lungs.

You're trying to get that blood circulation. You bring the upper chest, like, not doing anything. You're just wasting carbon dioxide. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't think this video shows me using it, but I mean, it shows the difference. That's cool though.

I'll have to check that out. Yeah, it sounds like an application in theory. That should work out awesomely. Yeah, okay. What are some things that maybe someone can do just to improve red light therapy, cold plunge, because those are things that we regularly do and promote. So we've already talked about the Methylene Blue, right?

How that'll potentially- Yeah, you can dump on more information on that. What is Methylene Blue? So if we look at the dye of Methylene Blue, it's technically, it can be actually administered because I did my own research just to make sure like pregnant women could take it. It can be administered in pregnant women,

but we wanna try and avoid that anyway. But if I look at its usage and history and then see how it's been kind of changed off label. And now we start seeing the underlying mechanisms begin becoming a lot more clear. So if we look at those electron transport chains, mitochondria based stuff, we're displacing oxygen, hydrogen.

We're just basically pushing more energy. So we're essentially allowing our bodies to create more energy. We are driving up an overall management of oxidation as a whole, because it's that hormetic stressor, where it's basically saying, hey, there's an insult to your body,

there's a pathogen, mitochondria, fire, send all your best immune cells out there. And then it gets there and there's no pathogen, there's no virus. So it's like, oh, I'm here, I might as well heal this torn bicep or heal this damaged calf or whatever. So overall, Methylene Blue also works

as an antimicrobial, antiviral. So I told you like when I'm traveling, now I'm starting to take that just to make sure I'm not getting sick, you know? So it does so many different things. So depending on how you're trying to apply, it's gonna change the dosage. So you can even use as low as one milligram

in red light therapy, if you're trying to get the energetic changes, because in red light therapy, it's also weakening adipocytes. So those fat cells are gonna get weaker. They're gonna dump more triglycerides out into the bloodstream. So I'll do certain protocols with individuals

where it'd be like Vasoburn on an area. So Matt Porter's old product with the capsaic be like vasoburn on an area. So Matt Porter's old product with the capsaicin and yohimbine, which works awesome for localized fat loss, burns like heck. Got to make sure you don't get on your genitalia. I used it one time and stopped because it got to the wrong area and it was terrible. But you would use your vasoburn, you'd take your methylene blue, and then you'd stand in front of that red light therapy, you know, for that five or 10 minutes to start getting the localized fat loss. You also, it also bleeds over into the systemic world.

So you start getting better neurochemistry, you start getting better energy production and it's kind of like the overall cool player to go ahead and potentiate your methylene blue. So obviously if you're doing that with red light, you could also do that with sunlight. Correct. Yep. Same thing basically. I mean, not really, but

They have some differences. And then what about cold plunging? Cold plunging is a tough one. I actually like for that modality to usually just to stay that modality. If we look at what it does for most people, that massively sympathetic response and then pulling it back down and managing inflammation so well, although there's things you can add to it, I usually like that as being a solo therapy because with that, a lot of people get a lot of central nervous system strain, just worrying about working up, like I can't do it. Cause I like the snow, but I hate the cold. I can't be in cold water.

So like I would build up myself. I'd like to start hyperventilating. I'm just bleeding ATP. I'm just wasting all of my central nervous system on worrying about that. So usually it's like, think less about it. Don't have a ritual before you get in, get in, if you're that person.

Alex, I have a question for you. Cause again, that's the thing that I've noticed with a lot of people about the cold plunge. I've heard Mike Isretel talk about it. He's like, I hate it, can't breathe in it, blah, blah, blah. But it's a learned thing to learn how to, because like I've been using it for a while that I can get in and immediately come down

to breathe and breathe slowly. But that's the thing I wonder, it takes a while to get there, but there has to be a central nervous system benefit there if it doesn't end up stressing you out, right? Oh, I agree. Yeah, it's something I don't want to learn, honestly. But it does, like, if I would force myself through it,

it would only be a benefit to me. It really would. I just kind of, I just honestly don't want to. Have you tried it? No, I refuse to try that cryotherapy. And I've had thousands of people do all these therapies because they work so well. And honestly, in like five or 10 years,

I know I'm gonna be doing it. But right now I'm like- I wonder if you've babied yourself into it and you went from like hot to cold. Like maybe it would not be as big. If you go from like a sauna or something, it's like, it's so much easier. I'll probably have to do that.

It's really not, it's really not, it's not even that it's not bad, it's just actually makes you just feel amazing. It just feels like you're a little kid and you just put your jams on and your parents tuck you into bed. No, seriously though, yeah. It feels like that.

That's what everyone says. It feels so calm and relaxed afterwards. Feel like a new person. Feel like you really recovered from all the different shit you might've done that day. And see, it's also tough for me. The reason why I haven't forced myself to do that is because I have my recovery down to a T. So like I can get, it's crazy, but like I can literally get so much neurological recovery emotionally just by being with my wife for five or 10 minutes and looking at her eyes or holding and playing with my kids. I'm trying to drive up that recovery or sleep, or sleep on both sides. There's obviously another thing,

and I'm curious your thoughts on it. So many people talk about how it inhibits inflammation. So if you're a lifter, it inhibits inflammation. So if you're a lifter, it inhibits inflammation. So if you're a lifter, it inhibits inflammation. So if you're a lifter, it inhibits inflammation. So if you're a lifter, it inhibits inflammation. it. So many people talk about how it inhibits inflammation. So if you're a lifter, it inhibits the benefits

that you're getting from training, right? So if somebody does like that modality, but they don't want it to inhibit their training too much, how would you suggest that they use it if it's something they like? Or would you tell them not to use it? I would say definitely use it. Either use it on only rest days

or just away from the workout perimeter. If you look at that inflammatory process of hypertrophy or adaptation for any athlete out there, doesn't matter, you don't have to be a bodybuilder, could be anyone. There's no hard numbers, but what I found over the years is if you're giving it three or four hours,

I mean, how much inflammation, like it's always gonna be inflammation, but at that point you're kind of shifting to like the micro trauma, the doms and stuff like that. That initial chemical change, that fibril change, to me, I see that more as like a couple hour process. So for me, if your main goal is athletics, I wouldn't use it three or four hours before or after your workout, your main weight training session or your main training session, whatever. And then maybe you do like weight training in the morning, cold plunge at night or opposite,

because cold plunge kind of gets you ready to go for the day. So maybe you do cold plunge in the morning, training midday, walk at night or something like that. Yeah, for sure. It's kind of like in the longevity community, rapamycin therapy where it literally triggers autophagy, but it blunts mTOR. And nothing in here is like a light switch.

It doesn't work like that in biology, but it blunts it. So that could be bad if you're getting old and frail, or if you're trying to maximally stimulate mTOR. But we're not talking about taking 20 milligrams every single day. You're doing three, six, nine milligrams only on rest days. It drives autophagy on those rest days. It'll clear senescent cells.

It'll drive up recovery and pretty much does all good to make sure that you are living a long, vibrant, healthy life and recovering. So same kind of thing that you are living a long, vibrant, healthy life in recovery. So same kind of thing, it's more dosage, duration, frequency. We had a ultra runner on the show, Anthony Nucle, and he was talking about utilizing a sauna and ketones post exercise.

And he felt like it had post exercise like impact basically almost like mimicking him running even further than what he did for the day. Can you comment on that? And like, why do you think that that's a protocol? It's a popular therapy. Yeah, it works out so well. You have the heat causing the receptor

uncoupling changes globally. So that might be good for these guys. I think you already practice that, right? Don't you get into a sauna often afterwards? Yeah. So you have that sauna driving that uncoupling aspect. So moving ligands hormones around more efficiently. Then you have the ketones fueling cellular action,

which means it's fueling your own endogenous peptide release of every peptide you're endogenously normally producing. So tons of different ketone products out there. We've talked about that beforehand, but essentially doing that post-training, you only have to watch for dropping glucose levels too much, depending on the person, but it's also acting as a positive nutrient partitioner because of that. It's going to start driving all nitrogens, all proteins, all carbohydrates, all glucose, everything into actual muscle cells. It's gonna start storing more glycogen. I have a question on that.

Just, cause like, I have these, I have this ketone supplement, I haven't really used it yet, just because I haven't been sure about the best context to get the most out of it. There's a supplement called ketone IQ. You've probably heard of that. I like that.

And you know, they've mentioned, I know other grapplers who use it, but I'm trying to figure out how can I use it so it can be most effective? Because I know it can be, but I know there's a time I took and I didn't feel anything. So I would assume that has to do with some of your nutrition and it probably has to do with your fast or not,

but how can you get the most out of something like that? So let's take your situation specifically, because it's easier when you have specifics. So for you as an athlete, are you lacking on the performance or the recovery? If you had to pick one. Oddly enough... Neither. Everything's pretty good, but it can always be better, right?

But right now there is nothing lacking on either side. So when that's the answer, we drive the performance. Because after you drive that, then you need to worry about the recovery. Exactly. Because if you recover first, you're only recovering so much. So driving the performance would generally mean more of a pre-workout, pre-training setting.

So with that specific product, what was your dosage? What were you taking? It's just one of the bottles, one of their little bottle things. So I think that is one dose. Some people need two or three of those bottles, and it can add up financially for a lot of people, but the dose really can come in massively for a lot of people. But if you're working up to that

high of a dose, you can also use it infrequently. So maybe you're only picking on the three or two or three days of the week whenever you're really trying to drive up the overall output. And then maybe another two or three days you would cycle in like Neuepept or something like that for motor cortex functioning. I've heard about that so much, haven't used it yet. That's cool. I would say that the KE4 from Ketone Aid is very potent, very powerful. It got in my bag.

And yeah, I use it pretty often. I think with that one, I'm not familiar with Ketone IQ and like the dosages, but I think with KE4, he could probably take like half and that would probably give him what, 15 grams or something like that. I think so, yeah. If you do half of a cap, that'd be 2.5 mil.

You should be able to feel that, right? You should, yeah. Question for you guys, what would one feel? And because I do a lot of my grappling without eating right before, so I eat like a big meal evening in the evening, sometimes one or two meals. I don't like eating before grappling.

So are these things more effective if you go into it fasted or not? Yes, but no. I think it'll help you with fasting in a way. Yeah, so it's funny, yes, but no, meaning you'll feel the effects faster, which is also cooler. I take my ketones every morning upon waking

because I do fasted cardio for 15, 20 minutes, then I go weight train. So to me, it's like, that's my immediate fuel that gets me jacked up. I go out into my gym, I have my red light go weight train. So to me, it's like, that's my immediate fuel. That gets me jacked up. I go out into my gym. I have my red light therapy. Like I'm good to go. I don't need anything else but those two products.

And so in your scenario, if you're waking up fasted, most definitely, if you had a meal beforehand, it's not gonna blunt the effects, but it will feel like it's blunted because you're not gonna get that hit. Like normally, like with the KE4 variety, I feel it in like two minutes. Some people it might be five or six minutes,

but it will definitely kick in. How soon do you take that before you do your Fasicardia? Right before? Right before. Yeah, right before. Okay. Cause I'm using it mainly for that neurological energy driver and you asked about what you feel.

It's usually that overall sense of focus, mental clarity, muscle fires, like things fire and function easier. It's almost like whenever, if you can imagine having like the best treatment of your life and you went and had a training session, you were just good. You weren't bloated, your vascularity was crazy. Like that's kind of what we're getting

with exogenous ketones. If you're responding well to them, and if you're not, it's usually a dosage problem. If it's not that, try a different product. Because I don't believe there is a bad exogenous ketone product out there. It's more which do you respond better to because some people need the ketone salts.

Some people don't, they want the Ke4 variety, you know, and then depends why you're using it too, but kind of trial and error. Pretty much. Yeah, I haven't used like I used one a long time ago. I didn't feel it. So I was like, yeah, whatever. But I have a bunch and I've taught I'm going to use it in the way it's different to like, you may not like feel it like it might not be anything real crazy,

but you might feel it in the way that you feel the difference between having hydration and not having hydration. Yeah, yeah, just like a different level of focus and that's the, yeah. It's almost like you die out slower rather than you have like a burst of energy that's crazy. The gas tank gets a little bigger. Yeah.

You combine that with your creatine, your Pico-2, your red light therapy, you're gonna be bulletproof. I have a question, what do you think about any type of beet supplements, powders, and or, you know, eating actual beets? A lot of people talk about that for cardio. Yeah, the nitric oxide benefits, that just ability to handle more oxygen

carrying capacity of the blood. Yeah, awesome, all of them are awesome. Okay. You know, and all of the basic nitric oxide supplements, the different nitrate products, the different citrullines, like they're all so awesome. I feel like today, at least I think a lot of people basically are still like, there's so many supplements

and a lot of it's garbage and trash. I think it's the opposite. We have so many options over the counter supplements. It's awesome. And they all work so well. It's more, do you need everything? Because we can have like, been to your house, it looks like my house, where there's a thousand bottles. And it's like, I'm not using these all the time. But you know, I got everything on hand if I need it. Yeah. You know, but it's easy

to get caught up in that trap of, oh, I'm going to fix this problem and that problem, that problem. And then you like, I have a little supplement dish and then it gets filled to the top. You're like, oh, I gotta pull back. I'm doing something wrong. Yeah. So I'm on the other side of things. So like for, for me, Jiu-Jitsu, I'm not as efficient as in SEMA. So I do need that recovery side to get a little bit better because like one session obviously will wreck me at times. I'm trying to be better at that and trying to slow down, trying to be cool. But at the end of the week, I'm like, man, I'm pretty banged up.

And then what do you do? You go again and again and again, and you just kind of end up hurting yourself. So how about ketones for recovery? Ketones post-workout, but now we would use cold plunge therapy. Because in this world, you have an excessive amount of damage,

inflammation, oxidation. So there's only so much inflammation you need to create an adaptation response. Once you kind of exceed that, you're just digging yourself into a hole and you'll never be able to recover out of that. And then your ankle gets hurt when you're driving on the car, you know?

So if you would do that with like your, again, one or two of the hardest sessions of your week that are like always damaging for you, and do, if it was the KE4, you would probably wanna go with a full capsule, so five mil, that can do a lot of good for you. It is funny though, Alex, like I've heard so much shit about like cold plunging

within fitness, some people love it, some people hate it, but you know, it actually feels, cause I have a cold punch in the sauna, after I do that, I'll do that maybe sometimes a few times a week if I really feel beat up. After I get out of that, it's like the body feels like the fatigue has been washed away. It's wild.

And then I'm like, why are people saying this is ineffective? Like, why are people saying it's ineffective? I gotta push myself to it now. You're getting me excited to try it out. Yeah, it's like, yeah, like I'll beat my body up, I'll go in there, and again, I don't use it a crazy amount, but I'll go in there, come out, boom, it's like next day, nothing.

Well, how bad it sucks to be that cold is a thing. It does suck. It does suck. But it's exponentially, the results are way, exponentially way above that. Otherwise we wouldn't do it. Like we're not just like, gluttonous for punishment. We go in there and we legitimately feel different

and way better when we come out. Did you guys ever try like a shock D pad? I have one. Yeah, I love that thing. Yeah, you use it? Yeah, yeah. Why do you use it? Why do you use it?

I use it for the recovery benefits. Okay. So, ooh. Oh God. I got two again. Keep on. Watch the cord grow or something. So, TR. Oh God. I got two again. Watch the cord grow up something. So, TRPV pain receptor wise, you're trying to hyper stimulate

and you'll get super sympathetic. Yeah. And it hurts so bad. And then it pulls you back down. Just like the nails and stuff like that. Exactly. Yeah. So it's literally like little plastic nails. I have the lowest level one.

Which one do you have? I have the highest level. I have both the lowest and the highest level one. Okay. This is awesome. The reason why I have both the lowest and the highest level one. Okay. This is awesome. The reason why I love you mentioning this so much, S-H-A-K-T-I, Andrew, is because I look at the shock demat similar to how I look at the cold plunge.

Because initially when I started cold plunging, I fucking hated it before and after, right? But when I learned how to breathe and slow my breathing down the cold plunge, it's not a bad experience. Actually, you get in and 30 seconds later, it's pleasurable because you're breathing slow. Same thing with the shock, D.

When you get on it, you're like, ooh. And then you start slowing down your breathing and you melt into it. I just start off with it on the bed because you put it on the floor hard surface. Oh, does it hurt? And then you got to roll off. Have you gotten it on your booty cheeks?

Yes. Oh, that's rough. Back your head too, because they make that pillow. Pillow. Yeah. The pillow is really awesome. My wife used that all the time. Yep. That's really cool. It's great for recovery, huh? I wasn't sure about that. It's amazingly beneficial. That's another reason why I haven't done the cold plunge. Because I'm like, I like this. It's so much easier. It's like a hundred bucks for the little mat, you know, which price who cares, but I don't have to overcome any big hurdle of, I don't want to be cold right now. I love this just getting weirder and weirder. Like I have a bunch

of gravel in my front yard and honestly that would work when I'm walking outside, you know, I walk on the grass and stuff to get grounded. I'm like, I, my feet are so sensitive. I'm like, I should just walk on that gravel and I walk on it and it sucks, but I'm getting used to it. I'm getting better at it. It helps, yeah, it really does. Getting, I guess like, you know, you're, you're, you know, you have all these sensations in your body and I think sometimes we're so tense and so tight.

I think that happens with the cold too. I think we're like overly sensitive to it. And then we also have a hard time regulating our temperature. So some, another benefit I've gotten from cold plunging and using the sauna is just better temperature regulation. I'm also a lot lighter, so that helps too, but. I need that then, because metabolically I'm always burning.

Oh my God, yeah. I'm always hot. Yeah, I just like that. I had my CPAP on at night, a big fan blowing on me. I was like that for years, and every time the summer would come around, I was always like, I'm getting the fuck out. I mean, I still usually do leave in the summer for quite a bit because I have vacation and

stuff like that, but I deal with the heat way better than I used to. So I think that the cold plunge and sauna have helped a lot. Obviously I lost over a hundred pounds too and that didn't hurt. Definitely helped. Yeah, I saw some of those pictures at your house and with you and the family, you got that head. That old pumpkin head. That's crazy.

Nice and round. And now you're all striated and vascular. Yep, time to get in shape. Right. So we mentioned grounding and you didn't freak out. You mentioned EMFs and these are things that are, I don't know, I guess we'll say fringe, although to us-

Team foil. To us, they're not, right. Yeah. They shouldn't be. I don't know what that is. to us, they're not, right. I don't know what that is. Maybe it's just like not a Western thing or whatever it is, but with EMFs, like, can you educate us and our listeners a little bit more on that? Like, you know, again, that's something that people will be,

oh yeah, I heard of that, but then completely ignore it and never address it. Again, I know it's difficult if your phone, well, that's an RF, but these modern things that we can't live without, like, oh, well, whatever, I'm not gonna get rid of it because I need it. But what are some things that we really shouldn't be ignoring when it comes to EMFs?

I think with everything, it's always use versus abuse because we can't escape our society today. I don't think we can really look at what our ancestors did and say we should be doing that. I like the principles of that though. The principles of eating healthier foods, of eating your meats, of having your healthy fats, of getting outside, getting sun exposure,

walking without shoes on. Like I love all those principles, but that's also that hasn't been reality for how long? You know? So instead we now take those principles and say, okay, today's society, I have to work eight or 12 hours a day. Is what it is, because I want to provide for my family.

I love working like that's our society. But now we have the things like for the blue light. So you have the blocking lenses, you have the saffron supplement to act as like that intraocular shield against blue light. You have the grounding to basically, it's just like electron donation. So why do we eat furs? To donate electrons. That's all the antioxidant means. It's just donation of electrons. So we ground for that purpose. When we get into the EMF world, this is where it's tough because it's also kind of kissing causes with quantum biology.

And this is where you're dealing with all the different frequencies and the different vibrational states. And so as you are changing your vibrational state, you can start seeing different processes occur. Some of those being tumor cell growth, cellular mitochondrial dysfunction, like any kind of health problem, you can pretty much kind of pull back to

there being some kind of an electrical and some kind of a frequency vibration based change. And you talk about this, and again, everyone goes, you know, tinfoil hat, like it's not real or whatever, because it's so hard to understand. A lot of people don't understand it. And obviously, you know, companies don't want to lose. I don't understand it. That's why I'm like, it's tough. It's so tough, right? So you're changing the vibrational frequency. So you have your own frequency. Everyone has their own frequency, essentially. If we were to see the spectrums of electromagnetism around everyone,

they would have their own. There'd be one over there, one over there. Like, it's really creepy because if you ever see how kids like look at the world, like an awe, right? Why is that? Because they can see those. So to them, everything is beautiful. And then you really want to get creepy with it.

Go over into like the Gandhi based worlds and a lot of those people, they talk about enlightenment. And what they always say is once you reach enlightenment, you'll never find anyone like ugly or you want to hate anyone. Everything's beautiful to you. Every person, every creature, every flower, every tree, because you can see these, you know? Like I have that same mentality, I can't see those,

I hope to one day, and that sounds kind of crazy, but like everything is just so beautiful and gorgeous. And the kids can see that because they can see those actual waves. And so this is where you get into the whole vibrational conversation. And it's so tough though, because we're exposed to so much. We're gonna be exposed to our phones, actual waves. And so this is where you get into the whole vibrational conversation. And it's so tough though, because we're exposed to so much, we're going to be exposed to our

phones, we're going to be exposed to our laptops, computers, like everything. So to me, it's just trying to moderate things, you know, and like, I like how this is actually wired and on Bluetooth, because I don't use Bluetooth headphones, because a lot of the issues that can occur with that. You avoid those too. Yeah. I mean, it just makes so much sense. And I've seen, I've had so many people come to me with tumor growths around their ears

or in their ears after five years of different, of using like Bluetooth therapies. And to me correlation never equals causation, but like, let's track the patterns. Like, you know, it makes sense on paper. Then you see it actually happening. And I would rather err on the side of caution. Why not just wire it? To me, it's a simple change. I remember David Herrera,

the first conversation I ever had with him, and probably the reason why we became friends is he was like, he was like, diabetes has hardly anything to do with sugar. It's a frequency. And I was like, I need to learn more. Like, I just need to know more. Like maybe what he said, like maybe I don't agree,

or maybe I'll find out that that's bullshit or whatever, but I just want to hear more. Like that's so interesting to me. And he boils everything down into being like a frequency and you start to investigate and start to look at things and you're like, yeah, well, I guess he's kind of right. It's tough. So again, quantum biology wise, super deep stuff. I barely understand any of it. It's something I'm trying not to get into too much because it makes you kind of overthink things. But if you

look at us as creatures, we are consciousness. It's essentially wrapped around vibrating strings. So if you understand the frequency, that makes so much sense. You understand the energy basically never gets destroyed. So you're just passing from one energetic form to another, which makes sense. But then you pull back to the body that we're encased in and you have to take care of that. So although like Harare is so right on that vibrational status,

there's also the actual physical status, the biological status that we can't separate our consciousness yet from like our bodies. Like that's like, right, the gold like in light and everyone's just gonna be like floating balls of light or whatever. But yeah, so we also have to take care of this body that we're in because our consciousness,

I mean, it's not useless obviously, but we like the bodies we're in. Like I wanna be able to move and play with my kids. I don't wanna die, I don't wanna go to that next phase yet. And like, I'm not afraid of death or that next phase or whatever, because whatever you believe in, there's always something else. There's always something more next phase or whatever, because whatever you believe in, there's always something else.

There's always something more, whether it's heaven or whatever you believe in. So to me, it's like, it's that next phase. So I have a game plan. Me and my wife are gonna let it be 120 at least. And then we're both gonna piece out the other. We'll see our kids, our great-grandkids, great-great-grandkids, like everyone,

we'll go to that next phase together. And then whatever happens there is gonna be awesome and we'll wait for them. And there's probably gonna be a phase after that and another phase after that. You're gonna go to like Switzerland or something and get killed together? Probably, yeah, you know.

I think you can do it there legally. I can't say the joke or shit, get mad at me, but I always would like to pass in the bedroom with some body parts smothering my face. That for me too would be a way to go. I'm gonna get, for me too, would be a way to go. I'm gonna get slapped for that. That would be the way to go. It was worth it, that's a good joke.

That's great. Is it a joke though? It's not, like that's the way I'm gonna go and then she'll just pass on top of me. That's how they'll find us. You know, like how cool would that be? Like, oh look, they love each other. Like they were having a good time.

Then you defecate after you pass, so. Oh, then things go south. Not the best scene for them to pick up, but I'll be watching from somewhere else. Didn't experience it. Things go a little south from there. I would say to simplify some of this stuff for people, I think it's reasonable to understand

that humans are addicted to light. We're addicted to light. There's people out there that know and understand that. So they put it in our technology. Maybe it's not evil. Maybe it's just the way that these screens are. I have no idea. But we're addicted to light and the light that we should try to get is the sun.

You should try to get outside the best you can, as much as you can appropriately for your skin type. You don't want to burn and you don't wanna melt out there all the time. And then I think a lot of things fall in place from that because I think the light and the dark cycles, our circadian rhythm sort of orchestrates our behaviors later on.

So if you can get outside and see the sunrise in the morning, if you can get outside and see the sun go down in the evening, maybe that's not always convenient. Maybe you can get outside and see the sunrise in the morning, if you can get outside and see the sun go down in the evening, maybe that's not always convenient, maybe you can't do it every day, but you just do your best to do that. I think that you'll start to find that when you miss it,

you'll miss it. You'll be like pissed at yourself. You'll be like, damn, I fucking missed the sun coming up today. Damn, I missed the sun going down today. And you're right about like things do seem more beautiful when you start to view some of these things and you start to prioritize these things.

Cause I think there are things that for whatever reason, I don't know where or when it happened, but we just got so glued to maybe the television and we got so glued to just being inside so much. When I've traveled to some other countries, I just, there's so many people outside. And that could be because the places I'm going, maybe because they're bigger cities

and they're touristy and stuff. But still. But people are just, they're outside and they're moving. And I just, I think that's the message. I think we start there and then everything else kind of falls in place after that. The hard part is it's not sexy. It's not sexy to say, take a walk outside

and get some exposure or ground. They're like, I live in Minnesota. It's like, okay, well, just for the couple months where it's nicer to go outside when it's freezing, I don't know, figure out something else. Or red light therapy. You can always do something, but again, it's harder for people to do something

than to take something. So it's always what pill can I take, What supplements? Never the training, the nutrition, anything like that. So yeah, you're right. Like honestly, if you want to start off in fitness, like anyone watching, can walk outside, start walking outside, getting sun exposure, then start tracking nutrition, then start training, then start watching sleep, get all those things done, then go to supplementation. Then after supplementation, we take things in the next step. Maybe you go to peptides and you go through HRT clinics

or whatever that, but that progressive step should be happening for everyone. Today, it's too commonplace to just say, hey, I'm going straight to the end products, I want results now. And you're building a house on a broken foundation. And then people are having all of these health problems. It's great for business,

but I don't like people coming to me with these health problems, because I would It's great for business, but I don't like people coming to me with these health problems because I would rather them come to me for different reasons, you know? Because I don't want anyone to suffer. I don't want anyone in pain. And chronic pain changes people.

I work with a lot of higher tier people that everyone know their names and they will completely open up. And I let people vent to me and talk to me and like it's their safe place because they know I won't say anything. It's just about being that friend. But it's like chronic pain changes people so much

and they're so strong. They really are such strong people, you know, but it's tough. If you're someone that's taking supplements or vitamins or anything to help move the needle in terms of your health, how do you know you really need them? And the reason why I'm asking you how do you know is because many people don't know their levels of their testosterone, their vitamin D, all

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code power project to save 10% off any one of these panels or any lab on the entire website. Links in the description as well as the podcast show notes. Hill sprints. Tell us about that Yeah, yeah, so changing gears up here. So I've been doing hill sprints for a while I tend to like to do them with my kids So if you actually look up the wonderful stroller, you'll see what I'm talking about. It is like the hammer of Basically like carts for your kids. Yeah, you know, so you have this huge stroller I'll have three kids in there the total weight ends up being like it two hundred ish pounds and the one hill by our house

If you walk it, it's about four. No, it's about three minutes. Mm-hmm So I'm pushing them up it still takes like three and a half three. It's hard. Oh my god There you go, and you can have different. Oh, it's so cool. There's a cooler function There is the little canopy you can have different, oh, it's so cool. There's a cooler function. There is the little canopy. You can have one for the winter time. So actually encases them, keeps them nice and warm. It's really cool, but it is heavy. And those tires look as big in person

as they are in the picture. They are massive. You can run over anything. And then you have a weighted vest on too. Yeah. How many sets do you do? One. Oh, you just do, oh, cause it's like three

or four minutes long. Yeah, three or four minutes long. It's like the most high intensity, far end spectrum glycolysis you can get to. And so like I've been trying to be more quality oriented the older I'm getting, because it's like you have less time or I just want to spend that time working or being with my family and kids, you know?

So it's like, how can I get the most out of this? For me, I like to do that for the athletic benefits, mainly because the health changes you get. The better you can manage oxygen, like that's really why our society is very poor in health, because no one's handling oxygen well. It's basically called proton electron leak and slip. So they're slipping off, going to the wrong places,

basically causing damage and oxidation. So if you can get to that far end spectrum of glycolysis where you're just, it's all lung, like you are just wasting oxygen, you can barely breathe, you get so hypoxic. Hypoxia is the most basic stressor, right? Because how long can you live without food or water versus air? So if you're going that hypoxic route for health or for body composition, or actually if you get really good in the energetic spectrum, it improves how you metabolize all of your peptides,

hormones, supplements. So now all of a sudden your TRT dose goes from 200 milligrams to 150. Or your, you know, whatever XYZ dose goes from whatever to a little bit less. Cause you're metabolizing it better and getting more out of it because you're handling the energetics and oxygen better.

And we had a doctor come on this podcast talking about sprints and its impact on like visceral fat. Sean O'Mara. Sean O'Mara, yeah. So it does great stuff for your visceral fat. Obviously it's gonna do things for like your body composition, the cascade of a bunch of amazing things that'll happen just from doing some sprints

can be really awesome. It really is and you don't like, I abused myself last year. I was sick like seven times in the year because I was doing that every single day. And if I didn't have the kids, I'd have the weighted vest and I would sprint up it. I'd come back down and by the time you get to the top,

your legs are pumped. It's like you just did a 30 rep set of squats, you know? I'd come back down and I would, I'd limp down and then I'd get my breath and I'd do it again. So I do that two or three times with the vest. And then I wonder why my immune system was so tanked. It's like, ah, you were training too much. You gotta chill.

Yeah. So what's your smart frequency then? If you were to tell somebody to go and start attempting this, smart frequency, cause it'll beat you up. Smart frequency, two, three times a week. Start with two, start with one. See how you respond.

I'm still doing it every single day, but I'm also not getting sick now, so I balanced out my immune system's response. But ideally, like if I was my own coach, I would say, Alex, stop it, pull it back to three or four times. Maybe don't wear the vest every time. That's what I've been doing.

Like I've been slowly being smarter about it, because I can be unbiased, I know when I'm doing something stupid. It's maybe not doing the vest or maybe just walking it, Because even if you walk that hill, it is still tough. You get to the top, you're still out of breath. Like, and I feel like I am very athletic right now. I've never been this athletic, never been this healthy. And I get to the top and me and Lindsay were like,

like we're breathing so heavy, never gets easier, which is also the fun part of it. I think that's interesting. You know, we talk a lot about nasal breathing and it's cool to be able to nasal breathe through harder and harder stuff. But there's something about just getting yourself to breathing very hard and being in that Michael Jordan

stance, you know, Jordan holding onto his shorts. And I think that, I think it's a huge benefit. I realized from a health perspective that maybe not everyone is healthy enough to kind of get themselves to that spot, but that's a huge benefit. I realized from a health perspective that maybe not everyone is healthy enough to kind of get themselves to that spot, but that's a great spot to be in. And if you can handle that maybe once a week, I think would be a good start for a lot of people.

I agree. Yeah, and like you said, don't start if you can't do it. Like if you are a hundred pounds overweight, don't start doing the walks. Maybe do some low intensity cardio. I always like, again, cause I make up my own terms, I call it proelastic cardio. Cause we're looking at the elastic portion of the walks, maybe do some low intensity cardio. I always like, again, cause I make up my own terms, I call it proelastic cardio. Cause we're looking at the elastic portion of the heart.

So if you're using it for health-based reasons, what we're trying to do is actually get that heart, trying to get this to feel a little more elastic so when blood comes in, it goes with it. You're not having that smashing damage coming in to a stiff atrial wall or ventricular wall. So proelastic, cause I couldn't think of anything cooler than that.

I actually said it. So that's one of the vocabulary that you've made? Yeah. Pro-elastic. Yeah, it was actually me and Andy, we used to have a podcast together. And I just said it. I'm glad that you admit making up words,

cause my good friend, Kelly Sturette would make up words and I was like, that's a made up word. He's like, no, it's not, I'm a doctor. And I was like, that's a fucking dirty trick right there. I believe him. Yeah. The doctor, he's right. I know he was right. I was like, oh, I got to just listen to him. That's funny. Yeah. Me and Andy used to have a podcast together and I just said it in like

one breath was the first time I said that word out loud. And he's like, wait a minute, did you just make that up? I was like, yeah. And he like loved it. Cause again, there's no other word out there to describe it. So if you're doing that low intensity, steady state cardio for the health, people say the heart health benefits. That's what it's doing. It's adding that elastic nature back to your heart. So it has less of a chance to turn fibrotic or to just have any kind of, you know,

myocardial infarction or any kind of damage. Cause it's not hitting a wall. It's going with the factual flow. Being in sema has been punching stuff lately. You've been punching a bag, kicking a bag, right? Yeah. Oh, there you go. Alex has been boxing for many years, right?

Yeah. And is that something you still keep up with? I do, yeah. Coming back to me training too much, I'm modulating it with the hill sprints because what I would like to do, cause I could do rounds forever. I could do five minute rounds,

punching the majority of the time. Cause to me, I- That's a lot of work. And you're a big guy. How much do Cause to me, I was- That's a lot of work. And you're a big guy. What do you, how much do you weigh? 250. Yeah, that's a lot of weight. First I was 250.2.

And if I keep eating this way, I'll probably be up to 260 pretty soon. Fairly, like I'm fairly lean. I got my abs, I got some veins, like not fat. And I was the fat kid growing up. So like to me, this is lean. So I'm happy, you know? But I'm trying not to get too heavy just from a longevity aspect I'm not trying to chase body weight

But it's also like if I get any leaner than I am right now, I couldn't keep up with my current workload So it's like the emotional Toll that my weeks take me from family to clients to everything. I love it wouldn't change it for the world But I also need to operate this way so I can't diet right now I want to but again time and place for everything. What gets you the worst, Ben and Jerry's or pizza? Actually, Chinese food. Chipotle.

That's been our go-to lately. I'll get like two big, nice burritos, double wrapped, double chicken, double white rice, bag of chips, my lemonade, you know? It's so good. And the kids love Chipotle or they'll get like Chick-fil-A. We make it fun fun. We so like, they're the only kids out there that like refeeding every week. It's refeed time, you know, and it's, it's a bonding experience. Another made up word. So the cheat meals, I call them deflux meals. Cause why are you having, well, everyone says,

when you talk about a cheat meal, they say like, oh, it's something about the McDonald's or it's something about this, that. In reality, it's the dopaminergic flux you get from eating a food that you emotionally are invested in. So it's like, oh, we're fluxing dopamine. I'm not gonna say that, it's deflux, makes it easier. And if you're doing a high carbohydrate, you're fluxing glucose, so deflux.

It's that simple. You could be just snorting cocaine. Right, yeah. With that dopamine hit right? You know Quick question man going back to your the hard workouts you do for your cardio, right? Did you notice after doing that did it have any effect on your HRV? I actually don't track my HRV No, like by traditional numbers. I love HRV as a metric, but it's just like reference ranges. Yeah matters for you

It's different. Yeah, some people are amazing at 25. And then when they get really stressed and systemically fatigued, they're like 10. So we know that's their range. Other people, I haven't liked the hundreds. And they'll come down to like 200, but they're like 250 when they're good.

So you find your range and then you know, okay, that's never recovered. But we never want to look at that metric and say I'm recovered or I'm not. Assess yourself first. What's your biofeedback telling you? If you're beat up, then you should look at it and expect to see a lower score. If it's still not lower, then it still doesn't mean

very much because you're not feeling it. But that can also be the red flag to say, hey, it's about to happen. So it's a great metric. I personally use my own way to track HRV, which is essentially the ability to get your heart rate up extremely high and pull it back down and recover. So if I'm recovering, like when I first started doing the hill sprints or first doing all

the boxing rounds and stuff like that, it could take me like three to five, six, seven minutes to recover from that stuff. Now it's like we get to the top of that hill and we just keep walking. I don't stop. It's still hard. You know, you're recovered in maybe two minutes, but I'm not sitting there gasping for air again, like the hands on knees type thing. So, HRV is awesome.

I think it's just like everything else, like just a little misunderstood. So that makes sense though, you podcasting with Andy Triana, super brain. I love that dude. Both of you guys have this crazy ability to retain information. And it seems like when there's something you want to focus on and learn, you can clear out the noise very well and focus on that one thing.

You read a thing and you actually understand the thing. Whether it's nootropics or any other protocols that you can help me out with because my thing right now, it's funny, I was actually just talking to Andy about this this morning. If I, especially for personal development stuff, I'll hear something from like Alex Hormozi or whoever it is, I'll be five seconds in and boom, a million ideas come to mind.

I stop paying attention to whatever the hell the thing is. And then I can't even grasp any of those ideas because they're all coming in so fast. I'm like, okay, what was I, okay, oh my God, it's been on for 10 minutes? What am I even listening to? Like, this doesn't make sense. So it's been really hard for me to stay on track with whatever it is that I'm trying to pay attention to. So with all that in mind, do you have any advice or any protocols or anything to help with, you know, focus, especially with the, like the memory and information retention? Tons. So first again, do the action, then take the supplement. So the actions could

be something as simple as like, do you ever play the Elevate app? No. It's one of the best apps in the world. I think it's like 30 or 40 bucks for your subscription. And it's essentially, I call them your neurological reps for the day. So it's the brain games. There's no research, no literature behind it because you read the research, it's like, oh, this doesn't help you.

And in reality, again, I told you, I was the naturally dumb person my whole life. Found what I love and I feel like I'm at least proficient now. And that Elevate app was a big part of that. It's just the daily neurological reps. So there's math, there's English, there's vocabulary, there's so many different things

and you wanna work at all of them. Downloading now. Yeah, it's worth it. Oh, it's so cool. So start off every day with that. You can do that while you're doing your red light therapy. And then after that, you can do, I mean, there's a ton of different things.

Like throughout the day, you could use your non-dominant hand and that's gonna slowly start improving that hemisphere connection of the brain. So decision-making improves, higher cortex overall, higher executive function improves like almost everything just by using your non-dominant hand because it's creating new neural pathways. So that's what you're lacking right now. You are basically truncated. And so your brain's basically not, it doesn't have neuroplasticity, ability to grow, progress, all that fun stuff.

So it's like, it's this size, we want to get that brain volume improved, we want to increase how your neurons are growing. So if you're doing all this fun stuff, then maybe you do bring in like the tiger's milk we were talking about before. To just mimetic, be the NGF mimetic. And then maybe you start doing that and you do super well. And then all of a sudden you start getting brain foggy, start getting tired because you're using your brain more now. You're creating new neurons, new patterns, and you have to fuel that with acetylcholine. So then your alpha GPC could come in to just replace your all acetylcholine. Or if you don't respond well to that, you go to acetylalkarnitine. So the oral version, so that acetylated variation

that'll donate methyl groups, the acetylcholine synthetic process. So your body endogenously will just produce more acetylcholine. Okay. You said alpha GPC and then you said acetylcholine orally. So then what version would the alpha GPC be? That is actually what the L, the left-handed antimer. So if you look on the back, it'll literally say L, alpha glycerolphosphalcholine. We want that. That's the actual full product.

So if you're getting a product and it says that, that's the full 300 milligrams. If it just says alpha-glyceryl phosphocoline, then that's just, that's both in the anti-mers. So then you're going to be like at 150, you should have to take a couple of dose. Okay. And so he was getting all excited because of where you're thinking about rope flow too?

Well, I was thinking about a bunch of things and I want you to just like explain to us what is happening on, there's this thing called rope flow that you saw stirring both sides. Yeah, there's this thing called rope flow that you saw us doing both sides. That was cool, I liked it. Yeah, and one thing, the guy who really popularized at David Wick, he mentioned that it's really good

for the brain because the coordination and the grossation on both sides of the body, both hands, I started doing a lot of juggling and I'm just, oddly enough, in the most recent months as I've gone deeper and deeper down these rabbit holes, I've started to have just more and more ideas proliferate and I've just been like, people are talking about this stuff being good for the brain. And I'm like, ideas I've had that I like with

with things are just coming. So what is going on there? And why can this stuff be good for the brain? Yep. So we're trying to do a couple things. First of all, if you look at like the longevity of our brain, if you look at not even IQ, but actual real intelligence, right? That's almost directly correlated with brain mass and brain volume. Like that's been pretty well documented. You go under the hood and you start realizing

that there's a connectivity problem with certain people between left and right hemispheres. You then start realizing that some people have a myelination problem. So those neurons decoding around them, it's getting kind of worn. So connectivity starts to go down. That's the Parkinson's dementia Alzheimer's, which isn't really an amyloid plaque problem at all.

The plaque's actually being protective, but that's a different conversation. People can have all these different problems. So all you're doing is literally exercising those different parts of your brain and basically getting them to hypertrophy because everything in our body is plastic. You can change it. So you can hypertrophy, you can atrophy any organ, any tissue, any anything. And there's no age limit because you hear like certain people,

like you hear it mentioned that after a certain age, you can't necessarily improve the neuroplasticity of your brain. You've heard that before. How true is that? Like what does that mean when scientists are saying that? I personally don't believe it because I've never seen that play out.

So what tends to happen is 30 to 50 years old hits, plasmalogen levels decline, and then all of a sudden brain volume declines. So you're seeing Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, dementia, or people like the old dog that's not learning new tricks type thing. It's that biological phenomenon of those plasmalogen levels coming down

on top of the accumulation of like everything else that's going on in our society today. So if you are replacing those plasmologians, now you are actually having those neurons that have the right shell, the right coding. So communication goes up. You know, we talk about like products to look up or buy, ProDrum, P-R-O-D-R-O-M-E, they have a glial and a neural product and they're absolutely awesome. The neural one is more gray matter, so that's more like processing speed performance you take in the morning, a little more stimulatory.

I really love the glial one. The ProJump glial is the white matter side of things wherever we're actually driving repair so that you're taking before bed a little bit of a calming effect. If you're actually taking that Omega-9 glial product, you cannot get a TBI. You literally cannot get a TBI because as soon as you have that damage occur, it starts to myelinate. Again, it starts to repair those neurons right away. So a lot of people, I won't do it like, you know, right out of the gate, but as I work with more people in the NFL and HL, like the high contact sports, like, you know, they're boatloading a lot of plasmalogens because if not, they're gonna all be getting TBIs.

Wow. It's crazy. It's amazing that no one, or not as many people know about it. Yeah. And it's, again, that's why Shoutouts to Prodrom. They make an amazing product. So I hope they get a lot of business off that.

I know they're already a big company, but like they have great products. They really do. I have just a comparative question. Can you not like, you hear so much again from professionals, especially docs, after the age of 30, bone density and muscle mass will decrease.

Obviously in fitness, we know it's with, you don't take any type of action, but would you say it's the same thing when with the messaging on the brain? Like when people say you can't build plasticity in the brain after a certain age, is that the same idea here where you can, but you're not going to if you're not taking any action?

Exactly. So we talked about the longevity side of things and how many people stop learning. Once they're out of school, they might learn for their job, but very few people are actually reading or doing those neuroplastic drills and games. Writing, doing puzzles. Oh, the cursive writing is so big.

And that's a big reason. Bring back cursive, huh? Yeah, oh, you have to. I'm Oh, the cursive writing is so big. And that's a big reason. Bring back cursive, huh? Yeah, oh, you have to. I'm teaching my kids cursive. I'm doing cursive every day. That ability to nonstop keep going improves communication. It improves actual understanding of context. It does so many things neurologically.

And it stinks to say, but that's why the IQ in general of our society is going down. Because nobody's doing cursive writing anymore. Everything's texting. If they're lucky, they're using a pen or pencil. But it's just one letter at a time because that's all you can process and comprehend versus writing your name out with that nonstop. You always got to be thinking and firing.

So even cursive writing can be so big. That's something you can get into and really help out. Yeah. I'm just thinking a lot of people will, I do it too, but voice to text now. And it's Ian getting a step further away from cursive. And we just think like, oh, it's just no big deal. I'm still communicating, no big deal. But it's like, oh shit, we're actually literally losing

the connection to like writing and communicating. That's again, one of those things that seems so, I don't know, so, so innocent. It's like kind of making this dumber. And you don't think about it. That's the problem because like the education just isn't out there. No one's talking about these things enough or the people that are talking about it. They don't have the huge platforms. They're not, you know, the companies that are selling those products, which I get it. Everyone's has a business making money at the end of the day.

That's cool. But it's like, just like at the end of the day. That's cool. But it's like, just like with the supplements and drug conversation, it's like, hey, this is what this does positive, but this is also what does negative. You're an adult, make your own decision. Where can people find you? How can people contact you and learn more?

Super simple, the prepcoach.com. And then on Instagram, it's Alex underscore KIKEL Love it. Thank you so much. Really appreciate it. Yeah, of course. Thanks for having me on guys. Strength is never weakness weakness Never strength. Catch you guys later. Bye