Mark Bell's Power Project - Mark Bell's Saturday School EP. 26 - Role Players

Episode Date: January 23, 2021

Everyone remembers the Greats and all they accomplished, but what about the Role Players? No doubt, the Greats couldn't do what they did without them, but we don't remember their names as vividly. Todays class focuses on whether or not you should be ok with being a Role Player as long as the end result is the same. We had a blast with this one, please let us know what you think. Subscribe to the NEW Power Project Newsletter! ➢ https://bit.ly/2JvmXMb Subscribe to the Podcast on on Platforms! ➢ https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast Special perks for our listeners below! ➢LMNT Electrolytes FREE SAMPLE PACK until Jan. 31, 2021: http://bit.ly/3bxyMND ➢Piedmontese Beef: https://www.piedmontese.com/ Use Code "POWERPROJECT" at checkout for 25% off your order plus FREE 2-Day Shipping on orders of $99 ➢Sling Shot: https://markbellslingshot.com/ Enter Discount code, "POWERPROJECT" at checkout and receive 15% off all Sling Shots Follow Mark Bell's Power Project Podcast ➢ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ https://www.facebook.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/mbpowerproject ➢ LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/powerproject/ ➢ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/markbellspowerproject ➢TikTok: http://bit.ly/pptiktok FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell ➢ Snapchat: marksmellybell ➢Mark Bell's Daily Workouts, Nutrition and More: https://www.markbell.com/ Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/ Podcast Produced by Andrew Zaragoza ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz #PowerProject #Podcast #MarkBell

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Mark Bauer Saturday School. The tardy bell rang six minutes ago. Oh man, people are late. So that means everybody listening right now is late. Was it me? No. Was I late? Well, we were supposed to start like, I don't know, an hour ago and I lost you.

We don't have a whole lot of luck. The good news is no one's listening. That's okay. Yeah. Because we're not live right now. No, we wouldn't do that. But we'll be live soon. Hopefully.

Maybe. We'll see. If you can figure out your buttons over there, but you got too many of them. Too many buttons. One day I'll figure it out. But by then we'll have a new studio. I know. What about that new studio? I'm excited.

Where is it? It's around the way. I heard it's in production. Oh, okay. It's being built. It's being built as we speak. I dig it. I dig it.

All right. Well, check this out. I'm going to read off a couple of names and this is kind of one of those trick questions where there's gonna be multiple things that they have in common but there's one specifically that i'm gonna point out it'd be sick if you get it right off the bat i got a number two pencil i'm ready okay cool yeah because that number one and a half wouldn't work you ever seen a pencil that's not a number two no it doesn't exist why'd they always make like that was such a big threat in school make sure you got a number two pencil that's not a number two no it doesn't exist why'd they always make like that was such a big threat in school make sure you got a number two pencil that's your scantron sheet i mean that's all

school is is a bunch of threats of you know if you do this you're gonna get that it's never it's not even true that you have to graduate from high school to go to college it's amazing i just found that out a couple weeks your odds are better if you don't graduate probably i think somebody said that the other day. I don't know. I don't know. Why are people in this school now? We made our own school.

I hate school. And we, I don't like it either. Now we're coercing people to learn. Now I'm in production with one. All right, check this out. All right. Hakeem Olajuwon and Clyde Drexler. Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant.

Tim Duncan and Tony Parker. So naturally, all of the people that I just read won championships. They won multiple championships. But what's the one thing that they all have in common? Well, they did it together, right? They didn't do it by themselves, right? Correct. However, I mean, that's definitely right.

Like I said, there's going to be multiple answers to this this they all won championships next to a guy named robert ory so now when you look at these championship teams robert ory may or may not jump out at you because he was a role player looked like will smith and he looked exactly like will smith it was ridiculous uh he really looked like Will Smith. I'm so glad you pointed that out because I used to think about that all the time. Like, dude, he looks like Will Smith and he could hit a three. Why is nobody talking about this? That's actually what we should do a whole another Saturday

school on. But anyway, you know, there's guys like David Goggins, there's Michael Jordan, there's Kobe, there's all these guys that I just listed off and they're the go-to guy. When the game is on the line, they're going to have the ball. We've had people on this podcast that say, hey, like, if you're not running your own business, like, you're not really solidifying your future. Like, you don't know what's going to happen if you're working for somebody else. So the question for today's Saturday School is,

I mean, can you still be a role player, still be successful? Because I mean, you look at Robert Ori, he has seven championships. Yeah. Michael Jordan has six. Robert Ori has like,

I want people to understand that. Like he's a goat. So even being a role player, like, like, is it okay to be a role player? If the end result is still, is still the same, you're not going to be a role player if the end result is still, is still the same?

You're not going to be considered the goat, but you still got championships. Should people be okay with being a role player? This is a sick question. Thank you. I love it. There's so much that goes into something like this. So let's start off with Tiger Woods who they just recently did a documentary on. I think everybody thought they would want to be Tiger Woods who they just recently did a documentary on. Um,

I think everybody thought they would want to be Tiger Woods, right? At some point, anybody that's ever played golf, anyone's picked up a golf club. Um, but it kind of goes, kind of goes to that thing of like,

uh, you know, I heard this story about a golfer one time he was, uh, smashing some golf balls and, somebody was like, and he was having a rough day and somebody was like, and he was having a rough day. And somebody was like, man, I'd love to hit a golf ball the way that you can. And he looked at the guy and said, no, you wouldn't.

He's like, you would if it was convenient for you. But he went off on a tyrant, you know, he went off on a rant. He's like, look at my hands. Like my knees are messed up. My back is messed up. This is messed up. That's messed up. It's kind of like careful what you wish for. You know, there's a lot of time and effort that goes into somebody trying to be great.

And how many people are really screwed up from trying to be something that they're not? So we know about Michael Jordan and Michael Jordan, a massive inspiration to a lot of people. But how many people fell short of that dream and felt like they were never enough? You know, how many, like how many people lay in the wake of that, you know, where they just never thought they were never fulfilled because they were never Michael Jordan. Even Tiger Woods is a great example because Tiger Woods is number two in terms of being the greatest golfer of all time, at least from a statistical standpoint,

maybe from a money earnings or something else, you can point to other things, but he doesn't have more. He doesn't have the most amount of championships. He doesn't have the most amount of victories. So he still has, you know, he's still young.

So he still has a ways to go. But anyone who saw that documentary, you saw somebody that took the world on his shoulders. And then it ended up being too much, which is completely understandable. Saw something similar happen with, um, we've seen similar things happen with a lot of, a lot of great athletes over the years. The answer to your question is a hundred percent. Yes. I think it's actually, I think it's important to maybe know if you're a role player or not. And it's okay to admit it.

I have some friends that have started some businesses and they tried to go off on their own and they just weren't that good at it. And that was fine because they recalibrated back to their core values and the things that they're good at. And they focused on that. They joined up with somebody else. I don't like for me doing the stuff that I do. Um,

I, I, so I, I guess I, I need to probably say this as well. Um, things are really, uh,

they're hard to see for what they really are. Things are very, really, um, uh, things are really blurry, you know, like with my life, you know, someone might very, really, um, uh, things are really blurry, you know, like with my life, you know, someone might say, oh, well, Mark's an entrepreneur. He's an inventor, the creator of the slingshot. And, um, nearly everything that you can buy at

markbellslingshot.com is came from my head at some point. Uh, but there wouldn't be a website. There wouldn't be anything if it wasn't for my wife. So while it may look like I'm doing all this stuff and I, you know, strap everything to my back and I pull it along, I'm not doing it by myself. And I'm sure a lot of other people are similar where they have somebody else that has. They have somebody else that may be behind the scenes is handling a lot of things. Some of these great athletes that you're talking about, it's hard to, it's hard to maybe envision, you know, how, it seems like Michael Jordan kind of did it on his own. I know he had Scotty Pippen, you know, but he also had Phil Jackson, right?

Tom Brady's getting it done without Bill Belichick. So we'll kind of see, we'll see what happens there. But I think being a role player, I think is great. I think it's important. My dad, I actually talked to my dad. So I've been going on these walks with my dad every morning since my mom has passed away a couple of months ago. And it's been amazing.

But you texted me that question like the night before. And so the next morning I kind of asked him about it and he just has so many great life experiences. I love talking to him about this kind of stuff. And, uh, he was like, Hey, you know, I'll give you a great example of it. He said, uh, I was doing something for our church, you know, many years ago. And he said, you know, my dad was at a pretty good position with IBM. My dad's very, very intelligent. He's a CPA and he's done real estate and he's been very successful himself. But the guy that my dad was raising money for the church with was an entrepreneur and a

multimillionaire. And so they, they worked together and my dad actually said, Hey, you know what? The guy's name is George. He said, George, you know what? He said, you need to be the head guy on this because we're not going to raise the money that we need. If I'm doing it, people don't know me. They don't know me the way that they know you. They're going to listen to everything that you say. And, uh, George was like, no, man, I can't do that. That doesn't, he's like, you know, you're, you're, you're smart. And I am, you know, you should do it. And my dad was like, no, trust me, this will work better. And my dad's like, I'll do all the work.

I'll come up with the ideas. Cause I know that you're working your ass off. And so they used this guy's name and they use this guy's, you know, um, business history as leverage. They were able to raise the money that they needed for the church. Because my dad is somebody that's not going to, my dad is somebody that's not going to give up. He's going to be somebody that's going to make sure he's going to really follow through with it.

Sometimes the people that are the most creative or sometimes the people that are the most fit to be the person out in front, sometimes they're not the most fit to make sure everything runs smoothly or make sure everything goes according to plan. You know how things go here. You know, I have all these different ideas and all these outrageous things that I want to have done. But somebody somewhere along the lines has to say,

hey, well, that's, you know, that's not maybe the most realistic thing to do. The other side of this is a side that people don't want to talk about, and that is, you, like, you don't get to really work for yourself. That's a, that's a, that's a, that's a fallacy. You, you're, any sort of, like, work in our modern day world, you're any sort of like work in our modern day world. You're, it's going, you're going to,

there's going to be an exchange of money probably. Right. If you're doing something for free, I guess you could say that's different, but then what are you doing? If you're, you know, there's going to probably be some sort of exchange of,

of money. Right. So whomever paid you, that's who you're working for. You could say working with, I guess sometimes it's collaborative, right? But that's who you're working for. And so that's something to really, to really think about. You want to go off and you want to have your own business. You want to have your own shop or your own restaurant or whatever it is that you want to have.

Well, you're now on the hook to all these clients, all these people that are paying you. I made a suggestion to a friend of mine a while back. She was dealing with what everybody else is dealing with. A lot of these restrictions from COVID-19 and she owns a gym and she's like, I just don't know what to do. This is, this is killing me. They change the rules every week. It's so frustrating. I said, you know, it's easier for me to say, uh, from my position, cause I don't have a public gym the way that you do. I have a private facility and things are just run differently there. But I said, what I would do if I was in your shoes is I would fire everybody and give

everybody their money back and say, Hey, you know what? We only want people here that are, that are believing in what we're doing and anybody else, anybody that gets upset because we're exercising, they just won't be part of it anymore. You can only sign up if you agree, if you agree that, you know, we might get shut down here and there, like a bunch of stuff might happen to the gym, a bunch of stuff might happen to this facility because we're not, we're not listening to the rules or the laws or whatever it is. And she was like, oh my gosh, like that would be amazing to do it. And obviously, again, easier said than done.

Right. But my point was, hey, like get some freedom away from these people because her whole thing was a lot of times my clients are complaining to the town that we're open or the you know and and she's like but i want to have it open and i know that they want to come and train they want to come work out but the second that somebody doesn't have a mask on or second this happens or that happens she's like all hell breaks loose and we get told on and we get shut down again or we get fined or whatever might happen so sometimes i think that when when you think that you're you want to have these uh responsibilities in the end and i'll say god that's an extreme example but nobody really wants to be god because there's

too many decisions to make. How do I decide who dies? How do I decide who lives? How do I decide who's rich? How do I decide who's well off? How do I decide who gets leukemia, who has cancer, who has this, who has that, if you believe in any of these things. But you kind of get my point.

It's like, you don't want to be responsible for all these different things. And it's easy to look at somebody and they get out of a really beautiful car and like, you don't want to be responsible for all these different things. And it's easy to look at somebody and they get out of a really beautiful car and like, man, that guy's got it figured out, man. I wish I could. I wish I could do that. But that guy may have, you know, that guy might be on his third marriage. You know, that guy might have, who knows what he went through. You know, maybe that guy has been made fun knows what he went through. Um, you know,

maybe that guy has been made fun of and bullied his whole life. And he finally just said F it at some point and decided to go all in on something and took his chance and took his shot. And he, and he finally, you know, became a success. A lot of people, a lot of people that you see that are successful that have money, a lot of times they're, you know, they're in their fifties, you know, and it's like this guy, like,

man, he, he paid his dues. You know, one of my, one of my favorite songs is from queen. We are the champions. I think that's the name of the song.

I think so. Um, in that song, the beginning of the song says, I paid my dues time after time. Like, so if you want to be a champion, you want to be good at something, you want to be great at something. You're not only going to have to pay your dues, but there's going to be some sacrifices that are made. Before we hopped on

the show, I was just explaining to some people that are here today about some sacrifices I made to lift some of the weights that I lifted. There's some things nowadays that I can't do because of those weights that I lifted because I was a professional wrestler for several years. Like there's just some stuff that my body just doesn't want to even think about attempting. I could do those things if I liked it enough to put in a bunch of effort to be more flexible and more mobile and do a bunch of stuff. But like at the moment,

it doesn't seem like a great idea for me to go snowboarding. Might like blow my body apart or something like that. I could see the face that you made there, Andrew, you, you, you can, you can envision that I'm just going to like die on the Hill.

Right. I'm just thinking about those tendons. Yeah. Just, just snapping. Right. That big old butt. That too.

You know, I think, uh, sometimes, you know, when we're thinking about. You know, I don't think I don't think it's a great idea. I don't think it's healthy to to really even want to be great or to want to be perfect. I think trying to be perfect robs you of even being good a lot of times because you're striving for something that's not really ever going to make sense. It's not something that you're ever going to be able to actually do. I always like to try to break things down and have things be really simple. If you're doing stuff that's simple and you're doing stuff that's feeling pretty easy and you do it day in and day out and you happen to get really, really good at it to the point where you can be a leader, you can be the person that's on the

forefront, then that's great. And maybe that's the, maybe that's the right thing for you. But a lot of times, you know, being a role player is going to be, it could be your most important role. I've had people here tell me about two years ago that they're like, man, I don't really know what I'm doing. I don't know. And then they came around at some point and they were like, you know what? I know what I'm doing. I think I know what my purpose is.

Now, I don't think this is another topic for another day. I don't think you're supposed to really know what our purpose is. I think that, well, I think that our purpose is to be in search of what your life purpose is, but I don't think you're supposed to ever find it. Ain't that a bitch? I think that's sort of the way that it works. That's my belief anyway. But I've had people here tell me that before, that work here at Slingshot. And then they said, you know what, I just want to pour my heart and soul into this and see what this can become and to see what I can do within the confines of this. And I was

like, I think that that's your best bet. Obviously for selfish reasons, I'm going to say that, right? But also for, uh, also my relationship to this particular person, like we're really good friends. And I'm thinking this is your best bet to be the best that you can be because forget about working at slingshot. You can go and work anywhere else that you want. You can move on from here and move up or move to something different, but you'll have had this experience of dumping your heart and soul into a company that's new into a company that's still on the rise into a company that's new, into a company that's still on the rise, into a company that's hungry to get better. And we pretty much leave everyone alone

here. We allow people to be their kind of own entrepreneurs within the business itself. And so I think you can earn a lot of great, you can learn a lot of great things while you're here and you can use that as a stepping stone. I hope that everyone does do that. great things while you're here and you can use that as a stepping stone. I hope that everyone does do that. And for those that want to stay on the entire time and continue, they'll just continue to move onward and upward. They'll just continue to move on with the company.

So I don't see anything wrong with that at all. I think maybe, you know, a lot of times people are just wanting to get that recognition, but hopefully in this environment, hopefully I give you guys enough recognition to where you feel good enough about what you're doing each and every day to continue to do it the way you're doing it. Absolutely. You definitely do. I mean,

even just like calling one of us in one of your like YouTube videos, that's always fun to do. But a follow-up question I had, videos right that's always fun to do but a follow-up question I had maybe somebody is trying to swallow that pill that they you just gave them you know maybe they're not you know the the go-to guy they are the role player how can this person still remain prideful in their day-to-day like how can they still show up every day knowing you know when the when the, when the, uh, the chips are down or maybe they got one second left and they're down by one point, they need to hit that, that

two pointer. They're not going to get the ball, but they might be the one that sets the screen. Yeah. They got to pass it off. But who's going to be on the cover of sports illustrated, right? It's, it's going to be Michael Jordan taking that shot. Right. So how can they still remain prideful?

I think where you can remain prideful is the fact that you have time with your children on the weekend, you know, and, and, and you have time to hit up that golf course and you have time to go to that concert and do those other things that you like to do. Because I realize that in today's day and age, everything has really been flipped upside down, especially with the pandemic and everything, but you kind of, well, I should say this. If you're an employee somewhere and you don't have this set up, you should work on it with your employer. You should be able to leave work. Like you should be able to, when you're at home, you should be able to leave work. And if somebody is texting you and thinking that you should get something done on off hours, I think that's a conversation that you should have with somebody, especially if you have a family.

You should sit like if they're pissed at you because you didn't do something in the middle of the night. I think that sometimes that's unreasonable. There are times where sometimes shit just has to happen and that can be annoying and I understand. But as an employee, you should be able to leave work as the employer you're fucked you got it you got to figure out a way to make that happen as the per as the lead person you know if you're going to get the praise and you're going to get all that then you're going to get all the junk and all the bullshit that that's uh so i think that that's uh that's a really important thing but i think where you get to be prideful is the fact that you're

going to have you're going to be able to pour yourself into something, have something that you can be proud of, that you worked on, that you were part of, but you can also still have these other relationships and you can also still have some balance. The lead person, the lead dog in the company is going to miss balance here and there. It's going to come and it's going to go. That's just like that just is something that will happen. It has to happen. And if it, if it's happened in the, if it's happened in the past where you're unbalanced for a while, then yes, you can, you can end up getting balanced again. Um, but there's probably a time where it's like, yeah, man, I was working like 80 hours

a week or I slept at the office or, you know, the boss is just looking haggard and bloodshot eyes and whatever else. Not everybody else should have to wear that. I do understand some, you know, every once in a while it does happen, but I try my best here at Slingshot to not text people on off hours. Sometimes I'm still guilty of it, but I sometimes we'll text somebody just to make sure that we're good for the next day on a particular time or whatever it might be. But I'm really working on trying not to interrupt people's weekends. You know, I, I love this job and I love everything that we do here.

And I understand a lot of the employees do too, but they didn't create it. You know, it's not, they're like, it's not their baby, you know, it's their, their,

their part of it, but they're not it. You know, I'm, I'm it. So I have to, um, you know,

when there's shit to be shoveled, I, I gotta just hold my nose and shovel it. You know, that's, that's kind of the way it goes. I think. Absolutely.

All right. Can you break down the difference between a role You know, that's kind of the way it goes, I think. Absolutely. All right. Can you break down the difference between a role player and somebody that's just riding coattails? Robert Ory might have been riding some coattails. I mean, Greg Popovich. Yeah. What was, Phil Jackson. Yeah. I can't remember.

And then who was Tom? Oh, my gosh. I'm not going to remember the Rockets coach now. I failed. It'll be on the next test. Yeah. I can't remember. And then, uh, who was, uh, Tom? Oh my gosh. I'm not gonna remember the rockets coach. Now I failed. It'll be on the next test. Yeah. Um, riding coattails.

I don't, I don't think, I don't think any of that's a problem. Look, man, whatever way you got to figure out, you know, to get ahead,

honestly, um, as long as you're not, uh, screwing people over, as long as you're not, as long as you're not hurting people, I think you're good to go. And if you, if you, if you recognize that something's moving along really well and you

want to jump on that wagon, then I think it's, I think it's worth it. I just don't think that it makes sense to probably be there for very long. Um, and I think, you know, I, I just, I think you're better off being part of something for a longer period of time and investing yourself in it more than just kind of riding the coattails. Because we've had people that have done that here and their transition hasn't been smooth because they didn't have like the momentum. I think that, you know, I felt in some ways in some of those relationships, I felt like a failed mentor where, man, I tried to teach them a lot of stuff, but it doesn't seem like it really worked that well. It doesn't seem like they digested a lot of what I was trying to share with them or they misinterpreted it a little bit. and uh you know so that can happen but i think i think the main thing with with all with all of this is you're going to have you're going to have your your key players you know you're going to have your main your main people right and you're going to have your role players but you all need

each other you know you need you there's no no one's doing anything without a really great team. And then how do you have a really great team? Well, the only way to have a great team is to not be a dick. The only other thing I can think of is you could I guess you could be a dick and you could pay a lot of money. But I still don't think that that's going to work that well. Elon Musk, when he goes on Joe Rogan and talks about all these things that he's working on, Elon Musk is probably not doing any of them, you know, but he's probably doing them enough. And he's probably physically there enough to where people are like, man, he, he's a savage. He's in there working with us, but he's not, you know, he's not the, um, he has a team. He has a team of a lot of people.

And I've heard that he even like works on the assembly line at Tesla and things like that. So you'll have to be, even if you want to be the lead dog, you'll have to have some skill sets to be a little bit of a role player as well. The role player gets to not really worry about all the shit that happens and all the stuff that comes with being a leader. You know, those of you listening that are fans of someone like Jocko Willink, I mean, you're better off being a soldier. You're better off being, you know, the, the lead, the leader in those situations better off being the captain or the person in charge.

Somebody dies, somebody gets hurt on a mission. I'd rather, I mean, I would rather not be there at all. Right. But I would rather be a soldier. I wouldn't want to be responsible for somebody else, you know, getting hurt, somebody else, you know, something happening to somebody else. And in, in business, it's not as harsh, but imagine being responsible for somebody's Thanksgiving, being responsible for somebody's Christmas, being responsible for somebody's Christmas, being responsible for somebody's kid's birthday, being responsible for somebody having enough money to fix their car when it breaks down and just all those kinds of things. Those are things that over time, those things erode you. Those things wear on you if you're not doing well with them.

And if you are doing well with them, it can be an amazing, it could be amazing feeling, but all of that goes along with all the other things that it takes to be a leader and to be in that place in the first place, along with all the sacrifices that you probably had to make at some other point. So switching gears, because we do have so many people tuning into Saturday school, even though no one's listening, but there is still somehow a lot of people, there's a good chance that there are bots. Yeah. Well, one of those bots might be the leader of the other bots. So from a leader's perspective, um, how can somebody better manage some of these?

I don't want to say egos, but like sometimes that happens, right? Like somebody might get spotlight one day and then all of a sudden the next day and someone else gets bitter that they weren't in the spotlight that day. So how can a leader help kind of manage their team of role players? Yeah, that's kind of stuff gets can be difficult. You know, the juggling act and then as an owner and someone who's. You don't want to. Sometimes you're just like, you know what?

I'm better off just not doing any of it. I'm better off not, I'm better off not taking the whole team together and saying, hey, you know, I'd love for everybody right now to acknowledge Andrew. He's been kicking ass. The podcast has been rolling along great. Thank you. Thanks everybody so much. Have a great, you know, have a great rest of your day.

A couple other people interpret that like, what the fuck, man? I've been, man, they're going to, they're all pumped about Andrew. Like I got him those pictures. I did this for him. And all he did was upload them to the computer. Like I work way harder than Andrew. I'm here way more than him. And you can get that.

I think it's, it's, you have to take a long time in your process of bringing people aboard. And it's really important that the people that, you know, if I'm to hear things like that, which I have heard situations like that in the past, those people, they don't work here any longer. You know, they didn't get fired for that. longer. You know, they didn't get fired for that. Um, anyone that's been fired from this company has pretty much fired themselves because I'm not going to just randomly fire somebody, even if they're not doing a good job because I'm not strong enough to do that. Um, but for the, for the most part, I mean, you just, you can't really have that, you know, there's things that you can't tolerate in an office setting and uh once somebody becomes like kind of cancerous because that's gonna that's gonna impact everybody else so

somebody goes they go back to the media room and they say i can't believe they're all talking about andrew you know and then someone else like yeah like f him like he's the worst or whatever and then someone's like yeah they only pay me this and someone's like what really like you've been here for two years yeah i never got a raise you know and then it's just, yeah, they only pay me this. And someone's like, what? Really? Like, you've been here for two years. Yeah, I never got a raise, you know? And then it's just like, man, shit's really sliding downhill. Really slippery slope. Yeah.

Things are going downhill really, really fast. So the best thing to do is to try to be as fair and as honest with people as you can be. And I think when you do get in situations where you have meetings with people, you ask them, you say, hey, do you have everything you need here? Like, you know, do you need a new computer? You need to like, is everything going good?

Are you good? And, you know, in accordance to what they say, you try to provide whatever it is that they might need. All right, how can we better assist you to do a better job here? It seems like you're doing a great job, but can we assist you any further to be more productive or, or,

you know, what, what, what do you need from us? You know, make sure they have everything that they need. You start to kind of check some of those boxes and you ask them how they're doing with the group and all those kinds of things.

And if, if they're good to go on those things and you also just say, Hey, like what you know uh financially like are you good like things going well like and if they do and if they say like oh you know what i would love to be here well then you got to kind of break it down and say all right give me some time to think about it let me get back to you you have another conversation but at least they know that you heard them, you know, as I mean,

sometimes when an employee has in their head and an employer has in their head are two totally different things. You start to have a conversation about it though. And you say, you know, as a, as an employer, you can say,

I honestly don't feel like you're providing us double the amount that you're, that you were providing us. But I see your point and I'm going to do this for you. And I hope I hope you accept that. I hope that works out well. If that person leaves the office and they're pissed, you know, and they're like, that's all you can do. I just don't you know I think that you'll have to make a decision together on whether it makes sense to continue onward because now you got somebody in the office that's sour about something yeah and I really wanted to point that out specifically for the opposite the the role players to understand that there's a lot involved when you are managing more people than you know

just a couple because I'm sure that there's some people like, oh, shit, I wish, you know, I had somebody like Mark in my corner. You know, of course, I would, you know, I've said it before, I'd run through a wall for you sometimes, you know, like, that's just, I'm very fortunate. Yeah, this team is awesome. I have to, like, yell at you guys to go home. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. Go home! But for some others, you know, they might not see that side of it. So I just kind of want to open their eyes to be like, it's not as cut and dry as you might think right now it's very complex but yeah yeah it is there's a lot of a lot of things to manage and someone could just not feel great on a particular day and then when somebody else approaches them they could be snappy and next thing you know all kinds of stuff starts happening and then um you you know, something from three months ago, it's like it's like a family. You know, it's like being in a family and someone's like, yeah, man, you know, you've always been unfair to me ever since I was five or whatever.

And like, where the hell did that come from? Yeah, we're, you know, 30 something years old and we're at a picnic or something with family and all these crazy weird emotions start popping out of nowhere. You're like, what the hell's going on here? The best thing to do is to try to communicate, talk about those things. But also the real key to the whole thing is, is just when you bring people aboard, when you're bringing someone on board, you got to make sure that they fit what you're trying to do. I've mentioned this many times before, you know, an eagle, you Eagle, an Eagle is the only bird that soars as high as,

as it does. And you want to make sure everybody in the office is an Eagle. You know, anybody else that wants to fly lower than that, they're just can't, they can't be part of what you're doing. And that might be part of your screening process. You might,

cause it's probably really easy to identify whether somebody's like awesome for your job position not and maybe not everybody in your company needs to be in accordance to the style of business that you have in accordance to the type of job that they're applying for and so forth but for the most part you want everyone to be uh you want everyone to be a way that you think is going to be the most productive for your company. And whenever there's problems in a company, you got to take that ownership on yourself and say, this is fucked up. Cause I should have never hired this guy in the first place, you know, or this is messed

up. Cause I didn't talk. I should have, you know what? I should have been a little closer with him because I should have been talking to him about this the whole time. And those are the things that happen as an owner. But I think the best way to do it is to hire great people. And then you really don't have to think about any of it.

I don't really talk to anybody about work stuff. I mean, I might ask for some stuff here and there that's like work related. Andrew, you got a clip of that podcast. That was sick. That was really cool. I'm not like talking about anything like real heavy, but you also know that if you needed something, you could come to me with anything and we can have a conversation about it. Just sort of just the way things work here. You could put it in my head and I can start to think about it a little bit. And then we can think if it makes sense, those kinds of things. But yeah, I think the real, the real key factor there is, you know,

in bringing a team together, as we're talking about with some of these basketball teams that won all these championships, bringing a team together, you got to make sure those pieces of the pie fit together really well. So as we kind of wrap things up for this edition of Saturday School, some parting advice and maybe just motivation because we just kind of keep highlighting Robert Ori,

but he still played 16 seasons in the NBA and he won seven championships. Now, seven championships is insane. That's a lot, but he still played 16 seasons in the NBA and he won seven championships. Now, seven championships is insane. That's a lot, but he still played for 16 seasons. So how do we keep the Robert Ori's of the world motivated to keep on pushing? You know, I always think that motivation, uh, motivation is like something that you activate, you know, it's, it's activated by action. It's activated by, by movement, by doing stuff.

And the second that you stop doing stuff. And the second that you slow down is the second that you're like, man, I'm not that motivated to do that. And as soon as you started saying that, well, now it's really hard to get you out of that slump because, you know, now you're trying to listen like David Goggins or something to get you fired up or Joe Rogan video or whatever it is that you're trying to listen to to get you hyped up. And those things after a while, they usually don't work that well. I would say that motivation is a little bit like a shower, like you need a lot of them.

You know, you need them every day. You need a dosage of it every day. And so getting some motivation here and there through things that inspire you through things that you like can be helpful. But if you have to get like motivated and fired up to do stuff, it's not the right stuff. It just means that you don't like it that much in your effort to try to keep somebody motivated. I would just deter you from that and say, don't, you know, if you have to keep an employee motivated, uh, you're in a bad, you're in a bad spot. Um, I mean, if it's,

if it's motivated towards, you know, something that you're given like life advice about that might be different, but if it's, if it's about the job, then I don't like that place that you're in. Because I haven't seen it. I've seen it work out negatively every single time where you're like, well, I wonder if I just gave more money that would help. I've even had it be where people work for me for free for a while. And then I gave him money and then it got worse.

Because it just was the end of the road. It just wasn't in the cards for it to continue onward any longer. So if you, if motivation is great and you know, find it where you can, I find it through a nostalgia and through, you know, songs that I liked when I was a kid growing up and I'll find a little bits of

motivation through that. I find motivation through YouTube videos. There's a lot of inspirational, great people that I like to follow and listen to. And I find motivation in that. But if I have to hype up an employee every day, that's going to be really, really tough. Like I got a lot of other shit to do. I got my own family. I got my own things going on. So that just doesn't seem like a great place to be. And I don't think anybody at your office should have to do that either. I'd rather have people that are self-motivated, self-disciplined that want to do it.

I would say probably the, a really big key factor that I failed to mention is just, you want to try to build a great culture. And when you have people that are, when you have people that are, when you have people that are when you have people that are um when you have people that are doing things well every day that's when somebody else walks in and says you know what man this place is great congratulations this place is cool this place is sick i like it i like the vibe

in here and when you have a place like that and we have somebody like yourself on staff we bring another photographer in, we bring in an assistant to help with the podcast or something. And you see somebody act a particular way. You'd go, we don't do that here. You know, right away you would be like,

no, like it doesn't work that way. You know, somebody, somebody new that works here that, you know, grabs a couple of products out of the way. You know, somebody, somebody new that works here that, uh, you know, grabs a couple of products out of the store, you know, you, you probably wouldn't be like, Hey man, are you still on that?

You probably wouldn't be all like on them like that, but you'd say, Oh, well there's a, you know, you got to check out the products and there's, did you, you know, you want to make sure you run that by somebody cause they have inventory and that's not usually how we do it or if they just took shitty pictures maybe they're not used to taking pictures of people lifting and maybe they didn't frame it well and you wouldn't like yell at them but you would say hey you know like this is usually how we do it because you want it to be the best because you know that that's all we're striving for is to be better than we were yesterday and so you wouldn't want to see shit fall apart.

And if this is the new guy who's going to come in and do photography, you don't want to see that slip up or, or get worse. Maybe people think it's you, right? Cause you did a lot of photography for us. You still do photography for us, but this new guy comes in and sucks at it. And then people are like, dude, what happened to your pictures are falling off over there, Andrew. Oh,

falling apart over here. Yeah, no, that would be terrible. But yeah, man, that's, that's all I have over here on my end.

I don't know if you have anything else to add on. Um, if you, that was sick, dude, that was perfect. I loved every second of this. Yeah.

I think, you know, just on that culture part, I mean, everybody here, not every single person in the office is like way into lifting and way into exercise. But for the most part, it's rare, although some of us will have like a cheat meal here or there. It's rare for us to see like cookies coming through the door or In-N-Out burger or fast food or there's just like a standard.

And I eat a certain way and the rest of the crew, I never really, you know, I have explained to people the way that I eat and you guys have seen the books and stuff and we talk about it a lot on the podcast and things like that, but I've never, I've never told anybody here ever before, like, Hey, this is the way you got to eat if you work here. But you see every single person with Tupperware, you see every single person with a healthy meal. I never told anybody anything about, Hey,

you got to be healthy and you got to lift. Otherwise, you know, otherwise you're off the team. Can't you can't, you can't, uh, you can't work here. There's never been a conversation. I mean mean it helps when i am communicating with people and when i do bring someone through the door after like oh yeah i've been lifting for years i love it okay that's great because now i know okay well at least you you've been around the gym and when i'm talking about certain movements and stuff you're gonna get it but it's not really a requirement but what is a requirement is that we have just a killer kick-ass environment where we

have like-minded people that want to fuck shit up every single day. Absolutely. That's the requirement. You know, that's what we need. So other people that want to be healthy and want to have great energy and want to make a good living, then shit, you're part of the squad. Yeah. And I think everything works because we all see each other trying to kick ass every day. So, you know, you're only as strong as the weakest link and you look around and you're just like, fuck, we don't really have that here. And on top of all that, you and Andy, you know,

bringing back Jocko, we all do have that sense of extreme ownership, you know, like you guys straight up said, hey, the podcast is yours, make it, you know, make it awesome. Like, oh shit, I have a really cool opportunity right now to make this podcast even bigger. So the fact that you guys trust us enough to do that is what really, you know, I mean, it just makes us want to do better. And that culture starts at the top with you guys and it just works its way down.

We need to do a video of somebody heating up some like spaghettios in the uh in the break room and see what kind of reaction we get from everybody else in here that would be sick everybody probably like those are delicious i forgot about those i i liked uh raviolis when i was a kid yeah those were so good i ate so many of those so many of those i started getting in trouble a lot because i started eating like two or three of them at a time. Whoa. My mom was like, where are they all going? I'm like, I don't know.

All right. Would you microwave them or would you put them on a pot and then stove top? I was big on cooking it in the pot. Yeah, me too. Okay. So I'm not crazy. It just tasted better. It was better.

The heat went through a little bit better. It's better. And then if it like burned the roof of your mouth and you'd like kind of, it's like dangling from the top at that point. Like it kind of ruins your day, but it was worth it. It's pretty hot. Thank you for the question. That was great. Yeah.

Thanks for the class session. If you guys listening right now, if you guys appreciated this one, let us know. We're really easy to get a hold of at Mark BellBowlesPowerProject on Instagram, at MBPowerProject on Twitter. If you're listening to this on Saturday, maybe you want to, I don't know, maybe you care a little bit more. Maybe you're trying to work on your LinkedIn profile. Hit us up there too. We're all over the place. We're on Facebook. We're arguing with your aunt about something on like a yard sale forum or something on there. I don't know.

I got to maybe start doing that to get more attention. But what I'm trying to get at is that we're super easy accessible. Like just, yeah, we make it easy. Even if it's on this YouTube channel, if you're watching this on YouTube, let us know down in the comments what stood out to you in this episode of Mark Bell Saturday School. And hit us up with more questions too. Cause I mean, Hey, I can do this all day, but it'd be cool to get some questions from you guys. Um, at some point through the newsletter,

you guys will literally take over this show. Um, you guys will ask Mark questions directly and it's going to be freaking awesome. Uh, we'll cross that bridge when we get there though. But yeah, that's all I got on this end.

Shout out to the people from black rock for coming out and checking out the show. And, we're going to have a new podcast that's gonna be unbelievable hopefully they can help us with that podcast problem that we've had from the beginning we can't seem to get that crank to work to turn the power on so you get the thing to work the right way but so i i figured out i have to i think in sema is still lifting and working out to try to figure out how to figure that out but this is freaking hilarious you You guys are going to love this. Um, so I'm coming into the gym this morning and I see like a,

maybe early two thousands, like big Ford expedition. It's not in terrible condition. You know, it's fine. It is what it is. As I get close, it says,

uh, black rock, something all over the back. And I'm like, huh? Like, Oh, like huh like oh like no like um like uh-oh like did we maybe sign up for something that we didn't know and then as i got closer it was like black rock auto body or something so it was like a body shop sticker on the back of this car but for a second there on the freeway, I was like, do these guys drive down here in this beat up car? Like, man, if that's what they're driving,

like, you know, again, like, not going to judge a book by its cover, but I'm like, oh boy, and thankfully. You got some smoke coming out of it. Yeah, so, I mean, I did kind of talk bad about another company, but hey, they got free publicity. If you're in Sacramento, hit up that body shop. That's all I

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