Mark Bell's Power Project - MBPP EP. 654 - "Eating RAW Meat Has Transformed My Health" - Raw Meat Experiment

Episode Date: January 6, 2022

This man has been eating raw meat everyday for the past two months and has transformed his health significantly. He eats raw steak, eggs, fish, chicken, liver and even ground beef. We eat some raw meat with him on air today! Follow him on IG: https://www.instagram.com/rawmeatexperiment/ Special perks for our listeners below! ➢Vertical Diet Meals: https://verticaldiet.com/ Use code POWERPROJECT for free shipping and two free meals + a Kooler Sport when you order 16 meals or more! ➢Vuori Performance Apparel: Visit https://vuoriclothing.com/powerproject to automatically save 20% off your first order! ➢8 Sleep: Visit https://www.eightsleep.com/powerproject to automatically save $150 off the Pod Pro! ➢Marek Health: https://marekhealth.com Use code POWERPROJECT10 for 10% off ALL LABS! Also check out the Power Project Panel: https://marekhealth.com/powerproject Use code POWERPROJECT for $101 off! ➢Piedmontese Beef: https://www.piedmontese.com/ Use Code "POWERPROJECT" at checkout for 25% off your order plus FREE 2-Day Shipping on orders of $150 Subscribe to the Podcast on on Platforms! ➢ https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast Subscribe to the Power Project Newsletter! ➢ https://bit.ly/2JvmXMb Follow Mark Bell's Power Project Podcast ➢ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ https://www.facebook.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/mbpowerproject ➢ LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/powerproject/ ➢ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/markbellspowerproject ➢TikTok: http://bit.ly/pptiktok FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell ➢ Snapchat: marksmellybell ➢Mark Bell's Daily Workouts, Nutrition and More: https://www.markbell.com/ Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ https://www.breakthebar.com/learn-more ➢YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/NsimaInyang ➢Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/?hl=en ➢TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nsimayinyang?lang=en Follow Andrew Zaragoza on all platforms ➢ https://direct.me/iamandrewz #PowerProject #Podcast #MarkBell

Andrew has a bad habit, he forgets to hit record, so we might do a two-hour podcast and it might be followed by another two-hour podcast that actually gets recorded. I'm just very thorough with warm-ups. Is that really bad? I need the practice. I think it's good. Are we rolling? Yep. Alright. We're on today's podcast with the Raw Meat Experiment. I'm just going to keep calling him that. Who cares about what his real name is, right? We'll just keep it anonymous

and he'll be the raw meat experiment for today. I was made aware of your Instagram page from Tank Sinatra. Do you know Tank Sinatra? Oh, I'm actually friends with Tank Sinatra. There we go. How are you friends with Tank Sinatra? We grew up together in the meanwhile

with Instagram online. Oh my God. You grew up together in the meme world of Instagram. Online. Oh, my God. You grew up together on Instagram. How lovely. Do you have other Instagram pages, or is it mainly just this raw meat thing you've been doing? Yeah, so I've been doing it for a while. My first page was called Cabbage Cat Memes.

It was just kind of random. Why are cats such a thing on the internet? It's just, it gets likes. We're just like, yeah, like animals. People love animals. Were you able to build followings on those things? Those pages? Yeah.

One of that page is at 800 K now. I did doggos doing things and cats doing things. Those are at like 2.7 million something. And you made like you, you took those, those usernames initially, right? Like, you made those pages and those usernames. Yeah. Because that's a good username. And I ran them the whole time. So did you sell them off or something? How does that work? I ended up selling those two to

a media company. So I thought we were on the show with a guy that, like, eats raw meat. And it turns out we're on the show with a fucking genius. Jesus Christ! Who's a marketing machine, apparently. Yeah, dude. Well, this is how I marketed my raw meat eating as well. Okay. Using memes.

The first like month of doing it. Try to stay a little closer to the microphone. This is his first podcast, everybody. So cut the guy some fucking slack. He's going to end up on Rogan because he was here. Thank you so much for having me as my first podcast, bro. Appreciate it. Appreciate it.

Yeah, so the first month of doing it, I didn't want to like advertise it or tell anybody. It's weird to tell your family and friends that you're eating raw meat online. So I just kind of did it. Yeah, so the first month of doing it, I didn't want to advertise it or tell anybody. It's weird to tell your family and friends that you're eating raw meat online. So I just kind of did it, and I was like, if somebody finds it, whatever. So after a month maybe, one of my old meme page friends just stumbled upon it on the Explore page or something, shared it to a story, and then I just got like 30 texts on my phone. Most of them were like, what the fuck are you doing? Some of them were like, is it healthy? Can you teach me about that? Some of them were

just like, do you need mental health assistance? And I was just like, it's a lot to explain. I've been through some diet holes in the past few years. Let's kind of, I guess, talk about your diet. Have you had any sort of medical or health issues that led you to anything in particular or were you heavier or had some sort of autoimmune thing or anything like that? Or you just kind of stumbled upon this? Basically, I mean, I spent my entire life eating processed foods and kind of feeling like shit and just thought it was normal. There was lots of like cannabis and drinking during that time and just, you know, trying to get through the days with caffeine. But after like I was plant based, I'd say for like 10 years.

10 years. Yeah. I mean, I was eating meat like here and there when I was going out, but like I believed in the plant based, like you can get everything you need from plants. I like ideology or whatever. I followed some of the vegan gurus and I would have kale shakes with like all these superfood powders and think I was getting healthier. But it was just like maybe one year ago from today

is when I first figured out that like meat is actually a health food by some of my friends sending me shit. I was like just chronic fatigue, like cystic acne, like painful skin issues, like just pretty much since I was like 15. Yeah. So I've been dealing with that. Those issues are gone now since I am meat based. And how long have you been meat based at this point?

A year. A year. Yeah. Okay. So I did that. I was just eating like steak and eggs all the time, pretty much. Tons of steak and eggs. Reading about liver, listening to every carnivore podcast possible for hours a day.

Extremely obsessed. And after that, I ended up eating some raw eggs, raw milk. I got into researching raw milk, why they pasteurize it, what's the difference, why people are calling raw milk a healing, magical food. Why are they? Well, the heating process, they heat it to 161 to pasteurize it, which kills every bacteria and enzyme in the entire product. It completely just makes it a dead product.

Then they add vitamins back into it that may or may not work but the enzymes that digest the dairy like lactase is killed so that's why lactose intolerance exists without like lactose intolerant people can drink raw milk because a lot of times yes digests itself for the most part uh in addition to that in raw dairy have uh vitamin d i believe as well as a good amount of vitamin k um which are heart healthy and there's you know so a lot of the vitamins and minerals are um kind of getting taken away when they're pasteurizing it and doing whatever else uh to the milk have you Was there any sort of grace period when you started to convert over to doing some of this? Did your stomach bother you at all?

Have you gotten sick from any of this or anything like that? I feel like at the beginning of going from, let's say, 80% plants to 80% animal foods, there was some liquid coming out the other end, but that was all cooked food, and reading the carnivore pages, that was all normal as well. It happens to a lot of people, just changing your gut bacteria, like what they're eating and dying off.

Like every time you eat something new, your bacteria, like some get stronger and some leave, and you're just changing the ecosystem in you but yeah let me share my first experience with eating stuff that's raw and it was raw cookie dough and anytime somebody cooks cookie dough i get pissed because i'm like you're ruining the fucking cookie dough so i see the logic in uh just eating raw meat well you did talk about the propaganda about people saying that like oh that you can't eat raw cookie dough. And you're like, that's bullshit.

It's a conspiracy theory. People are just trying to ruin my life out there. With some of the stuff that you have looked up, what have you found? When you cook it, and you mentioned you do eat some cooked stuff, but what are maybe the added benefits of eating stuff that's raw? I just feel like, first, I was thinking we're the only animal on the planet that has to cook food. Like why are you going to die if you don't light it on fire first? That just didn't sit well with me. But I was just taking the same logic as raw milk. Like when you heat it to that point, you're killing off all of the bacteria and enzymes that help you digest it. And meat has the same enzymes all animal products do. So I was like, maybe eating raw meat is better.

And I saw some pages on YouTube that people did it on Instagram. One dude is called The Real Natural Human Diet, and he's been doing it for a few years. I learned some shit from him. But yeah, once I saw other people doing it, I was eating raw liver and I would make smoothies using the same kale shake magical blender. But with liver. But with liver, raw milk, and raw eggs.

That's dope. We got to try that. I do that almost every day, every morning. That's awesome. Liver shake. Okay, this makes me real curious, man. You said you're from Boston? Yeah, I'm from Boston. Liver shake. Okay. This makes me real curious, man. You said you're from Boston? Yeah, I'm from Boston.

You're from Boston. You were vegan for 10 years. The vegans would get mad at saying that, but I ate mostly plant-based. You have such a cast iron stomach now. The shit you're doing is so hardcore, but you didn't start off doing this shit raw, right? You started cooking it, and then you're like i'm gonna just do this raw why did you say i'm gonna just do this raw what was the switch for you um just seeing like i live in venice beach so like all the legendary bodybuilders over there they just chugged raw raw eggs all day so like that kind of leaked into me

you mentioned vince gironda yeah vince gironda with his 36 raw egg a day diet. Yeah. And the raw milk I just got really into and like California is the only place you can buy it in stores. So I'm lucky to be here for that. And the raw milk, the raw eggs and the raw liver. Like I tried cooking liver once and like the apartment smelled like shit. My girlfriend was mad at me. Does your girlfriend join you on this by the way? I got her drinking raw eggs, but that's it. Damn. Vince Gironda, by the way, he kind of coined the steak and eggs thing years and years ago. He was a legendary bodybuilder. He's since passed. He's from the 50s or something

like that. Many people have had a lot of success with his style of diet. I think he did eat some carbohydrate because I think that that can be helpful for bodybuilding to have like some rice and potatoes and things like that. But he was a proponent of raw milk. He was a proponent of just eating your eggs raw. And then he wasn't necessarily a fan of like eating liver because I don't think he liked it, but he used a liver supplement. There's a bodybuilder from the 60s who was way ahead of his time. Yeah, he was doing pretty much carnivore.

I think in his raw egg smoothies, he did add banana, so a little bit of carbs there. One thing everybody's probably wondering, and we talk about it a lot on this show, is the consistency of your current shits. You said at the beginning, the transition period was a little murky,

but you're now still eating raw egg yolks, you're drinking raw milk, you're eating raw ribeyes, raw ground beef. You're also eating raw chicken, and you're also eating raw fish. How is your shit? And then talk to us about the chicken, fish, and ground beef, because that's real sus to most of us. Yeah. Well, yeah, at the beginning, that was like a year ago.

I've been fine since then. The more meat that I eat and the less plants that I eat, the better I feel. Grains is like my number one. I eat it still. I'll go get a burrito once a month, but I feel like shit for three days. Does that crush your stomach now? Yeah. I think it's grains. I'm pretty sure. now yeah just like i think it's grains i'm pretty sure just it just doesn't do well with me but if i keep that stuff out i mean i'm my shits are clean as hell right now i think the raw meat like we're made of raw meat so i feel like it digest is any of this rough we're watching a video of you eating salmon and um when i first when i first uh used to eat salmon you know this the skin would bug me and i would like i would remove it and i wouldn't eat first uh used to eat salmon you know this the skin would bug me and

i would like i would remove it and i wouldn't eat it and nowadays i eat the whole thing and i i enjoy it thoroughly but is any is any of this kind of like a little rough for you because you're like this salmon was one of the best meals i ever had in my life wow no yeah i got did you eat the skin as well i tried i couldn't bite through it yeah Yeah, you can't. It's too tough. I went to the farmer's market by where I live. Dude, you would dig it in SEMA. You would really like it. I mean, it's sushi.

Yeah, actually, that's true. No, that is true. I mean, it's fucking sushi. It's odd. What you're doing is odd. You're like, this is fucking cold, weird, slippery meat. But you don't even salt it or anything. You're just going straight in, and it's cold.

I'm just raw dogging it. That, that was from a, from a farmer's market by where I live. I just asked the fisherman dude, I was like, what would you eat raw? And he was like, oh, this, this fucking salmon is amazing raw. So I did it a bunch of, I get every single time I post one of these, I get like 20 DMS and they're just like, you can't eat salmon raw. I know fishermen that ate it raw off the boat and they got sick and went to the hospital. And people say that shit every day, but it's like, that's why I'm doing this because everybody's so afraid of eating. Do you feel as if your palate changed? Because we've talked about how when you go on a different diet, like us, when we switch to eating more meat, et cetera, and eating less processed foods, you don't crave those processed foods.

You crave real food. Nowadays, you said that was one of the best meals ever, coming from eating processed foods and all this other shit. Is your palate different? Do you literally, when you bite into that, you're like, mm, mm, good. It's getting there. It's changed a lot. Okay.

When I first went from eating mostly plants to going mostly steak and eggs, at first I didn't crave it. But then it's like all I want when I get home is steak and eggs. And then slowly it's becoming that with this. Like I didn't want to use spices. I just think it's funny to eat it blank, I call it. Blank. That's perfect. I'm getting used to it.

Like the raw ground beef like today, I was like, this is the meal that will make me feel the best to come do this podcast is just raw blank ground beef straight from the shelf into my body it's it's funny because it's such a it's such a throwback to obviously like what what humans had to do at some point to survive uh but nowadays it's like it's polarizing and it's the complete opposite of what people do. Even with beef, they'll take beef and they'll make it into beef jerky or they make it into all these other different kinds

of things that just has a lot of ingredients in it. For myself, what I've noticed in pursuing like a meat-based diet is that the more that you limit the ingredients, the more you get used to the flavors. They're not even, I was going to say plain flavors, but I stopped myself because they're not plain once you actually start to learn and once you start to taste them.

Are you more dedicated towards grass-fed and things like that, or you don't sweat it too much? Yeah. In normal life, if I'm cooking steak, I'll kind of just get what I can afford. But when I'm eating it raw, I've been spending more money because I'm doing it mainly, I think the project on Instagram is funny. I also just want to do it for my own health and research. And eating like an animal that's eating its natural diet I think is safe so if a cow is supposed to eat grass I get beef that is grass-fed if it says 100% grass-fed I'll chomp

into it right away without worrying yeah what about worms is there any concern with that is that anything that you like looked into I haven't looked too much into it. I think, I feel like it's just, everybody has parasites and everybody's made of bacteria. And as long as you're healthy, the body works the way it's supposed to be. It's like in nature, like nothing can exist without predators and prey.

And I feel like that same system's happening within me. Like maybe some tapeworms are fighting each other and killing each other right now inside of me. I have no idea. Are you going to get like... Probably doing it all inside of all of us. You mentioned that you got people like DMU saying, we'll test you. We want to test you.

We want to see what's going on. So do you plan on doing that soon to kind of see what's going on in there? Yeah, I'm going to do it just to please the viewers. Yeah. Like I personally don't really care. I'm just going on how i feel but i mean before this last one year ago because of my girlfriend and i was getting dizzy driving and like i was always tired i thought i had diabetes like i would feel feel like shit after a meal

yeah but my meal would be like a giant kale and banana smoothie and two bagels with hummus. So, like, I didn't realize I was just eating, like, 700 grams of carbs at once. And I wasn't getting any. I didn't even know animal organs existed. You know, like, I didn't know anything about nutrition. But, yeah, so before that, I did get tested at CVS to see if I had diabetes, and they said I was fine. But before that, it's been, like, over 15 years since I've been to a doctor. I just don't do that system.

Do you exercise? Yeah, I walk like two hours a day. I skateboard. I hike. But I don't like lift heavy. Hit us up with some of that milk, would you? You can't be hogging it all to yourself. Right?

And Seema's a growing boy over here. We've got to set him up with a good amount of milk. This is going to get all to yourself. Right? This one. And Seema's a grown boy over here. We got to set him up with a good amount of milk. Hey, this is going to get me to 260 shredded. Shredded, yeah. Upset more people. Get them angry.

There we go. This is that raw milk. It's illegal. Here's to lactose intolerance, everybody. It's illegal in many places. I'm going to come up and grab some too.

Andrew. Yeah. I love it that you're getting in on this, Andrew. Oh, raw milk is so good. Watch this be the thing that cures Andrew's gut over time. Have you ever had raw milk before, Andrew? No.

Cheers. Hey, come here, baby. Oh, dude, you're going to be like, this is so good. Cheers, bro. I think it's pretty rare for people to actually, a lot of people- This is good. Yeah, a lot of people stop buying full fat milk, too. So raw milk is always full fat, and it's delicious.

What are the macros on this? Does it have nutrition facts on it? It does, yeah. I think it's like nine grams of fat. It's good, right? It's delicious. Yeah, it's got some good fat. Six or nine grams of protein.

Dude, that reminds me of when I was a kid. That's what milk used to taste like. I mean, milk. Back in the day. Way back. Milk will turn. Look at this guy. Milk will turn a baby cow into a full cow.

It's a complete food. It has almost everything you need to live. Right. Yeah, and I think there are like healthy fats in there. I mean, you guys can look some of this up. We're not going to like get all deep into the science-y type shit, but I believe that there's a lot of healthy fats that are in... I kind of hate the term healthy fats, but there's a lot of fat that's good for you, I guess you could say,

that's in raw milk. And we have some raw meat sitting here on the table, but I don't want to dive into eating that just yet because kind of once we do, we'll just start making a giant mess. Yeah, no blood on the podcast table. Yeah, don't want it all over the place. I know you did a lot of looking into carnivore. You dove into saladino, baker, all of them. The organ meats, when you first started doing that, you said you cooked up raw liver, your apartment stunk up.

But did you feel different when you started eating liver with all the nutrients that are in liver? Did you notice a difference after a while? Or is it something that you're just like, since you've been doing all of this and the eggs, it was just a little bit of a boost? Liver, I actually did notice a difference. It was like the first day. Actually, we ordered, me and my girlfriend ordered liver pills. Okay.

And we just both took like six of them and like felt like we were on adderall all day whoa like really she cleaned the whole apartment we were just sitting there at like 10 p.m like what the fuck it actually worked what company uh that was just like ancestral something on amazon it's like the cheaper one okay but yeah that was like we actually noticed so she takes the pills and i i every morning i'll make like two ounces of liver with like 14 ounces of milk, blend it, and chug it. A lot of the stuff, it's like maybe what we're proposing here today, like to dive in and start eating raw meat.

Maybe that's a little bit, maybe that's a lot for people to handle. But why not try like an organ supplement? I mean, it sounds very natural. It sounds like something that we've done for centuries, you know? And so why not just, just see for yourself, like just give it a shot. And one thing that I think gets a little lost in a lot of this stuff. So people get polarized and they get stuck on, oh my God, the guy eats raw meat. What they're missing though, is all the stuff that you have taken out of your diet. And I think that is the main, like it's my main message is that I don't really care that much

about whether you go full carnivore or whether you want to be keto or whether you consider yourself in this tribe or that tribe. What I would like you to do is to try to eat more meat, replace a lot of the food that you used to eat with meat. And I'm not too worried about if you have a salad or if you have some fruit or if you have some fruit or if you have a diet soda or an energy drink or some sauces on your food, that really doesn't matter

that much. It's like, just do your best to try to stick with this the best you can. And for yourself, I think you were mentioning that you eat some cooked foods and stuff and a burrito. Like how often do you like kind of switch things up and do something different? Yeah. So I eat like, How often do you kind of switch things up and do something different? Yeah, so I eat, I'd say right now 50% of my diet is raw. And I have fruit. I'll have potatoes, fruit and vegetables. I mean, I eat socially once a month with friends, and I'll just eat whatever.

I don't want to be strict. And I cut out cannabis, caffeine, alcohol, every drug possible. So food is still the thing that I get to enjoy. But I don't feel like I'm missing any of those things anymore because I am getting all the nutrition that I need to my brain. I feel like that's filling a void that I was trying to fill before. But yeah, I don't worry too much. I mean, I think like 100 years ago, all of these health issues that people had

were pretty much not non-existent, but they've increased by like 1,000%. And all that's changed in that time is processed foods, seed oils, foods in boxes by these giant companies. So if you just pretty much avoid processed foods, you'll be fine. You bring up a good point. Processed food by these giant food manufacturers.

So I do understand why people are stuck on this raw meat stuff. I do understand why people freak out. They see you eat salmon the way that you did in the video and the skin's flapping off of it. It's different, right? So thousands of years ago, that wouldn't have been different. It would have been normal. You actually wouldn't even skin the thing. Maybe, maybe you would like literally take a fish and just bite into the whole goddamn thing because he didn't have a knife or

something. You know, you just probably maybe just go for it whatever way you could, especially because you were really hungry. Maybe the damn thing was like still partially alive. I don't know. Like we probably were really savage and did some, you know, wild and crazy stuff. But if you think about the foods that are coming from these giant companies and how highly processed it is and how long that oil has been sitting in those products, you canitos and some of this shit, it's been sitting around for a long fucking time with all these oils and refined sugars and things that have been cooked and overheated and overdone in every possible way. And now we're like, hey, this is delicious. And we're downing it. And then we see someone do something like this, we're totally freaked out.

But this is just a throwback, really, is all it is. I know it's hard to wrap the brain around, but like human beings are fucking, we're animals. I mean, a good, a good glimpse into like how animalistic we are, I think sometimes is just kind of examining your dog. Like when you go to get food for your dog, but imagine if we were fed, like we would be kind of flipping out too. We would be super excited if we were being fed in a similar way or only eating twice a day. Yeah. My dog eats once a day.

Yeah. Yeah. See, like some dogs, you got to really control it a certain way. We had Ben Patrick on the podcast. He's the knees over toes guy on Instagram. And Ben once told me that the way that he got in shape was he was just examining the way his dog eats. He's like, I pretty much just feed my dog meat, and I only feed him twice a day. He's like, I'm going to try to eat the same way.

And here we are years later, and the guy's shredded. He's in great shape. He's got great mobility. He's not in pain anymore. It helps solve a lot of issues for him. I agree with that. I think of, like, my dog loves raw milk and liver. Those are the two things he'll go crazy for.

Like, if he's sleeping and I say the word milk, he looks up at me. Like, he knows that he wants that milk so bad. He drinks raw milk? Yeah. Yeah, my dog drinks raw milk. Does he blow bubbles in the bowl? I haven't taught him that yet. You haven't shown him that trick.

He's a Frenchie, so, like, the flat face doesn't work. Can you talk to us about, I mean, I know we're talking about us and humans, but how do you feed your dog for some of the dog owners out there? Because I'm going to start, I need to add some raw meat into my dog's diet. Yeah, I've been pushing them towards raw. So I just get a bunch of organic ground beef at Costco. And then at Whole Foods, they have organic chicken hearts and organic cow liver. So I put the liver, the chicken hearts. I put some eggs. You got to get some bone in there, so like chicken feet or something.

This is just like a complete nutritional thing. I did the math on it, and it's even cheaper than those fancy foods I've been getting at the stores. It's interesting. A lot of people feed their dogs roadkill because that's what those food companies, those giant food companies, that's what they're making their stuff out of. I don't know. To me, that seems like a really weird decision, but I guess to each their own. I think the reason we evolved together with dogs is because we hunted meat together.

So we have a very similar diet. I think I know that eating raw meat is extreme, and, like, I'm doing it in public online to be kind of extreme and get attention because I think it's funny, even though I was going to do it without the Internet anyway. But it's like if you had a pack of chihuahuas and sweaters going into a park, imagine if they saw like a wolf eating like a dead bunny. They'd be like, what the fuck? That's disgusting. In a way. You just painted

an excellent picture for me. Oh, great. Yeah, so Instagram is a bunch of chihuahuas in sweaters that are like, that's fucking disgusting. Then they go to Chick-fil-A.

How have you built out some of these other channels? Because it sounds like you've had a lot of success. I think you were mentioning in the break room some stuff about you also have some YouTube channels, and I don't know if you have any TikTok, but how have you built some of these channels out?

I just get obsessed with the topic, and my mind works in jokes, so I just make memes all day about it. That's so good. I've probably made 10,000 memes online. Do you write some of these things down? Do you think maybe you're a little bit like a comedian? How are you... I guess I'm trying to figure out how your brain works towards

this material. Honestly, it's just ideas that I'll have in my head. I just know all these formats. I make memes full-time as my job for brands. Oh, okay. So I've been doing that for five years. All right, you're hired.

As my full-time job. Can we hire you over here? Yeah. I've managed social medias. I make memes for companies, like hundreds of large companies, shows, Hulu things. If you don't mind, can you tell us kind of how like maybe some of the process was? Because you sold some meme pages, right? Can I ask, and if you don't want to say how much you sold some of these

pages for, that's fine. But like you built these pages up to hundreds of thousands, millions of followers. How much did you manage to sell these pages for? I sold that one when it was at like 700 K and what's it called? Dog goes doing things got that to like 700k i still run it but um it's it's a complicated process okay like equity in a company gotcha mixed with payment and also like i get job opportunities to make memes for companies through them what were you doing that's just my really good friends. Okay, okay. What were you doing before that? Was this something that fascinated you for a long time,

and then you were already doing it for free on your own because you just liked the internet? I'll be here all day. That's hilarious. Well, for seven years, I had an accounting job, and I was just like seven years I had an accounting job and I was just like I I just need to quit

because I if I lived my whole life doing this I'd rather not be alive at all yeah so I quit that job with no plan at all and then I worked with my dad

doing like carpentry construction type shit I was like those are two jobs I can't I mean I don't know you but like even just in the short time

knowing you now I'm like accountant and carpenter. I'm like, no way can this guy sit still to go do all that. Yeah, so I was doing roofing and tiling bathrooms and shit for a couple years. Good trades. During those times, I was just doing ridiculous shit on the internet as well. In 2014, I think, was when I first got social media. So I was 25.

And before that, I was like, fuck social media. We forget how fun, like social media, like when I see people utilizing social media, like you're utilizing it, I think that's what social media is all about. You're supposed to fuck around a lot. You have a lot of fun. Yeah, you're supposed to fuck around.

Being too serious on it is not what I'm looking to to fuck around a lot. You have a lot of fun. Yeah, you're supposed to fuck around. Being too serious on it is not what I'm looking to do. We've got to dive into a little bit of this. That's so good. Go ahead and grab a slice. All right, let's grab a slice. All right, Nesima,

go ahead and grab a slice. This must be $20 ribeye, damn. Yeah, this is Piedmontese. We don't fuck around around here. You've got some paper bombs. Oh, yeah, yeah. I've got paper towels. Yeah, go for it. We don't fuck around around here. We got some paper towels.

Yeah, go for it. Do whatever you got to do. Wow. So bear with us because this is a little unconventional for us. We're sorry if we eat and make weird noises into the microphone. Podcast first. Not just our podcast, any podcast. Popping all our cherries.

Three raw ribeyes on a podcast. Yeah, I don't think that's ever happened. Here you go, Natty Professor. Thank you, sir. One raw meat meme page in 55 days and this shit happens. Yeah, you know. Shout out to Tank Sinatra for making that happen. Tank Sinatra.

You know what, Tank, he hit me up and then it was like, I think, four or five days later that you're now here because I was like, how about January 5th? You're like, sure. I was like, damn. I was like, this is my kind of person. All right, we got all the proper utensils out, which are our hands. And then, sorry again about all the weird noises, but we got to make some noise.

The fat on these things is amazing. It's kind of like biting into like a beef-flavored crayon. It's real waxy. Oh, that sounds good. Yeah, it's like a candle. All right, here we go. Cheers. Cheers.

Oops. Oh, I hit the microphone. That was gross. Let me do one more. Let's do a cheers all together. Is Andrew? Oh, no. I just had the raw milk.

That's it. Kind of bring them together. All right. other so because we got the cheers is andrew oh no i just have the raw milk that's it kind of together all right here goes three two one oh a little chewy the sound effects are yeah how's that amazing never done this but it's not bad bad. There's actually no foul taste whatsoever. And blank is a good term. This is a blank canvas. I feel like meat doesn't taste bad at all. It tastes normal.

It's just we're so used to chemical foods that taste good as fuck. I can barely... I'm trying to figure out a way to describe it. We're just so used to, like, salting it so hard. Mm-hmm. It doesn't even taste, like, gamey or anything, like, which I wouldn't expect. It's not game meat, but I would think that raw would have that. Pause. Is this Piedmontese?

It is. It is? Okay. All right, number one, Piedmontese, fucking amazing beef. Have you ever had Piedmontese it is it is all right number one piedmontese fucking amazing beef have you ever had piedmontese beef before this is now but i'm into it how do you like it compared to other beef you've had it's up there it's up there yeah um guys you know about piedmontese we've been with them for a long time and they have literally some of the best cuts of beef on the planet they have like some cuts of beef that have 90 grams of protein and 9 grams of fat, but they also have these ribeyes and other fattier cuts if you want to have more fat.

So, Andrew, tell the people how the fuck they can get their hands on this shit. I want to dip this in the raw milk, by the way. Oh, you're a savage, Mark. You are. I'm not going to. So, Piedmontese is so good, you guys can eat it raw or cooked, whichever you prefer. Head over to piedmontese.com. That's P-I-E-D-M-O-N-T-E-S-E.com.

At checkout, enter promo code POWERPROJECT for 25% off your order. And if your order is $150 or more, you get free two-day shipping. Again, piedmontese.com, promo code POWERPROJECT. Links to them down in the description as well as the podcast show notes. I've got to say, and I've had a theory about this forever that there is something to use in your hands biting something and tearing away like a savage it feels so good doesn't it i think we're like meant to do that like when you do that with a like a tomahawk she reminds me of my ancestors in like nigeria i can feel my great great great grandfather shitting me right. He's going to fucking headbutt us or something.

I was about to say some shit, but nah, not for sure. He's going to go do something crazy. Don't you want to just take your shirt off and just keep ripping into this? And be in the sunlight. Yeah. I'm going to go sprint.

Sprint. Yeah, go kill something. All right. I don't think we can continue to talk anymore. No. It's all right. Well, you know what? Let's see how long people watch this for.

It's an ASMR channel now. I was just going to say, yeah. Have you ever worked on any ASMR channels? No. I should. Tell us about YouTube. You did some YouTube stuff too, right? Yeah.

Briefly, not really. I never got anything big on YouTube, but this raw meat thing actually started on YouTube. And then a week later, I was like, wow, that cat's chubby. Oh my God. Bro, these memes man people like it because I'm not forcing a diet on them

I'm also making fun of myself for doing it oh my god oh what's the shack one let me see that shack one those ones are hilarious oh shit cooked my health improved

that's good so we just got through the holidays, and what did that look like? You went over to your aunt and uncle's house, and you had whipped raw meat out of your pocket? No, it didn't work that way. But I did go to Whole Foods real quick before, and I ate raw steak, a raw ribeye with a Santa hat on for the fans. So I made sure to get my daily dose in.

Are a lot of people mad at you? Like on social media or in person? Like you're doing this every day at Whole Foods. Yeah. Honestly, surprisingly, they're not. I mean, I'll get like two or three angry comments every day online. But to be honest, it's like 95% supportive, and I did not expect that. I thought I was going to be honest it's like 95 supportive and i did not expect that i thought i was going

to be battling people all day but they're like they're just supporting the hell out of it and your shout out probably just blew me up i probably just went up like 5k since i took a screenshot because i'm like 16k like we've done this before you know we've had people on and just and it blew up so it was at 15.5 before you posted that. So you got it to 16K already. Oh wow, just in a few moments really. A few minutes or whatever. Yeah, but another story on meeting Tank and all of that meme

stuff. Trying to get Tank here, god damn it. Let's go Tank. What's wrong, Tank? Tank, get out of New York for once. Yeah, that's right. 2018, so I did a GoFundMe I was making memes on uh Facebook

just random shit I did a GoFundMe I was like buy me my dream car $6,000 it's a Toyota Prius 2008 buy me my dream car and I'll travel around the country

for a year couch surfing at all the meme pages houses on Instagram so I did that for pretty much a year like surfing at all the meme pages houses on instagram so i did that for pretty much a year like nine months like 35 states i went to new york i hung out with tank sinatra for a few days like sunny side up he was sunny side up was pretty much like my plug for the meme world uh then i was in georgia with like middle class fancy shooting guns in the woods and like

i went to Florida. People were like, oh, my mom's a security guard at Disney. Let's go. I just stayed with random families around the country for pretty much a year because I was ghostwriting memes for companies making like two grand a month. I was like, I don't need to be anywhere. I'm just doing this from my phone. Wow. From your fucking phone?

Yeah. That's how I networked with all these people. I mean, I knew Tank a little bit before that, so that's how i networked with all these people i mean i knew tank a little bit before that but that's how i like i'm gonna come to your house and stay with you for a week to everybody let me ask you this because what you did and what you're doing currently as far as eating raw meat raw liver raw eggs all that shit extremely unconventional so initially before you were working in an accounting job then you're working with your dad was there Andrew was there a shift in terms of like you know you you're doing everything you're doing is extremely unconventional the type of work you do the way you eat all of that was there some

place a big bite in terms of your like in terms of the way you thought that you're like I don't need to do normal shit anymore or think in a a normal way? Or have you just been like that? I'm just curious. I've always thought in different ways than other people, I think. But maybe it was just being trapped in a cubicle for seven years that I was like, I need to be as not normal as fucking possible. I don't know. I was like, I don't even care if I don't have money. What about, what's the deal with your parents?

Are they kind of creative people or they wanted you to like i think you said you worked with your dad doing some of that construction and stuff did your parents always kind of want to push you towards more traditional lifestyle no they never they just supported whatever i was doing my mom's just like yep i don't know i don't really understand what i't really understand what he's doing, but I'm sure he's right. So my mom follows this page, the raw meat page. How does she feel about it? She's like, you know, she's watched TV her whole life.

I'm sure she thinks it's dangerous, but she trusts me. Don't get sick, that's all. Yeah, I'm like, it's not dangerous. It's actually the healthiest thing I've ever done compared to all the stupid shit I used to do. Go ahead. thing I've ever done compared to all the stupid shit I used to do. I think some people should really take note, though, of what you said in terms of the way you were feeling before you got on eating meat and taking processed food out of your diet. Because you were trying to do a healthy vegan-type thing before, but you said you had cystic

acne. What else? Yeah, my skin was pretty painful, the cystic acne, for 15 years to the point- And right now, you can't tell. Your skin is great. Yeah, to the point now you can't tell like your skin is great yeah like to the point where like i skin literally like glowing i had to like get new white t-shirts like once a month because like there would be like shit on them from my skin wow um the time you were a kid yeah like high school to like last year damn also what else was i had like back pain and like my dad has back pain and i thought i just

like got it from him but once i changed my diet the shit is gone and sometimes i'll have like a fuck ton of rice for dinner or something just like hungry as hell eating dinner and like the next day i'll have like neck or back pain and i'm like i feel like it's grains it's something not digested a lot of anecdotal evidence of stuff like this. Thank you. People, they tend to want to dismiss it,

you know? Yeah. Like, I mean, I make memes for a living. I'm not a scientist, so I'm just saying shit that I've seen.

But I'm just a dude with Instagram that looks shit up all day. How you doing, Andrew, with the raw meat? It is pretty good. Like,

it almost tastes like a, like a, pretty good. It almost tastes like a blend. People aren't going to be like, that does sound delicious, but it's almost like a cheese. Yeah. But not like a smelly cheese. Yeah. It's not bad.

At nice restaurants, they have carpaccio. Yeah, it's not bad. At nice restaurants, they have like carpaccio. Yeah, there you go. Diced up meat. I think we've been to restaurants where they've had it before, and they put a raw egg on top of it, actually, a lot of times, or at least a raw egg yolk. Steak tartare.

Yeah, steak tartare is popular. You can get that. For some reason, it's not weird if a restaurant gives it to you. Yeah, this makes it look way more bizarre by literally chomping into something. And the other day I went to a Lebanese restaurant and they have just raw kibbeh. What's kibbeh? It was just raw ground beef with onions

on top. It doesn't look very appetizing, but it's like this is okay because it's at a restaurant. But if I just eat the brick in the parking lot, it's fucking gross. Is raw chicken a thing? You can get sick from it right but is that true i don't know i eat raw chicken sometimes um i have some friends that have eaten it a shitload online

it's it's quality the same as anything else and like the amount of chickens that are eating their natural diet is like close zero, I think. So how do you make sure you're getting good chicken? Because chicken is one of those things where everyone's like, cook that shit all the way through. But you're not eating just chicken breast from Costco, right? I eat chicken breast from Whole Foods that said organic. And I don't think that's the best way to do it. So that's why I don't do it all the time.

How often do you do it? Just like once a month. Okay. But I've been ordering a lot of my food from like a amish farm in pennsylvania and i trust the hell out of how they do their foods like beef and your chicken or just mainly your chicken and your fish um honestly i get my milk and cheese from them but and like some organs like cow heart but i'm gonna start ordering more and more of my food from them it's just i can only get the delivery every two weeks, but I would trust chicken from them. I'm going to order it and

eat it on the page. Shout out to, that's organic pastures, right? The milk right there. Yeah. That shit's awesome. They have that here in California. It's hard to get in other places, but I think they're in Fresno. Yeah. I know like regular milk that's processed as a shit ton of sugar. Does that have like natural sugar? Like what is it? It has natural sugar. Yeah. Still has the same amount of carbohydrate.

Okay. Just considering. Right. Because like my son, like I was just like the thought of giving him regular store-bought milk was like out of the question. But raw milk, that might be. Yeah. That boy gonna grow.

Yeah. That's how I'm like, yeah, I got to start getting that. We've had Joel Green on before and he he talked about how anabolic it is. He loved raw milk, and he was even saying he thought it would be a good thing post-workout, which makes sense. It's got protein and it's got carbs in it. The other thing is, too, I don't know how much of this meat-eating rabbit hole you jump down but the other side of the uh equation when it comes to chewing meat is building up a strong uh passageway for sleep and uh building up a straw like strong like

uh jawline and and all those things that are kind of lost on a lot of people nowadays maybe you can give us like two or three of those each we We're pretty messy. Thank you, Callie. And so that's another factor. It's like you're building up with all the soft foods we have nowadays and with people kind of having a natural, or not a natural, but people having a forward head position from being on their phone all the time. A lot of people are not able to breathe the way they used to be able to breathe. A lot of people don't have the nasal passages that they used to have, and a lot of people don't have the facial structure that they used to have because we chew mainly on softer processed foods, and we're not chewing on meat, and we're not just, I guess, training our jawline, I guess you'd say.

Yeah. Yeah, I've definitely heard that train of thought. We're not chewing as much, and people are like vegans. The raw vegans just live off smoothies it's like they haven't chewed anything in years but i've also i was reading a book called deep nutrition i forget who wrote it but okay it's a pretty interesting book and it's about like the bone structure is changing from like an archaeologist can tell if it was a hunter-gatherer or somebody with agriculture because the bones are different and weaker.

So it's like people went from hunter-gathering, which was like 15 hours a week of work. You get all the shit you need. Nothing costs money. And then you just kind of like vibe around a fire for the rest of the day. But then they switched to agricultural, which is like working sun up to sun down for less nutrition. Like your bones are shittier. But yeah, in that book, they said since the invention of, like since people relied on grains so much, the malnourishment of eating grains and not as many animal foods has changed

our jobs so that your teeth can't fit. So like we actually get our wisdom teeth out because we're malnourished over generations of eating grains. We had guests that have come on that have talked about that exact same thing. Like for example, I have a lot of relatives in Nigeria and a lot of other countries where they eat like real food where they're having to really chew there. They build great jaw lines,

but they also build good internal structures in their mouth where they're not getting their wisdom teeth pulled. That's why, oh, I'm going to, oh, don't throw this away. I'll eat this later, but I already had a pound of ground beef on the way. Like, for example, my mom, she fed me real food growing up all the time,

like meat, et cetera, right? I never felt any type of wisdom teeth discomfort because it all developed the way it should. But a lot of people who eat a lot of like soft, mushy food and they're not chewing, like, oh, their mouths are impacted. It makes perfect sense. It makes perfect sense. It does. That milk was delicious. It is.

I really want to buy more of that. I did not think that we were going to get raw meat and raw milk by everybody. I thought it was just going to be like me in a corner eating raw meat. Like Gollum and everyone's laughing or something. We just ruined your Instagram now. I know. Everyone's like, oh man, it's actually really good. Did you kind of like it, Andrew?

Yeah, no. It wasn't like exploding with crazy flavors but it was it was enjoyable like it was fine like yeah that's how i consider it yeah fine and then once you do it a lot you get used to it like to the point where like you'll just start craving it because you're not eating as much explosive flavor food yeah and i'd imagine i mean i don't i'm not i don't know how you would i guess have, have an A-B comparison, but like your dental hygiene before going raw was probably not as good as it is right now, right? I feel like aside from flossing, if all you ate was raw meat, you would never have to brush your teeth. We've had people say similar things, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, from what would you be brushing off? I mean, you don't have any sugar or crap on your teeth, right? So I would agree with that. And I think maybe even like there's a lot of people that have just basically said that toothpaste doesn't really do anything. But obviously like a toothbrush can. You brush stuff off your gums, brush stuff off your teeth. Yeah.

Yeah, I use a toothbrush. I don't use toothpaste too much. I think we got to get you in the gym, get you trained a little bit. Have you messed around with lifting much at all? Just like calisthenic parks. I'll do push-ups, pull-ups, bodyweight squats. I do it just mainly to like 10 minutes a morning just to like stretch. Right, just to like wake yourself up.

Yeah, I thought it was helping my back pain, like doing some sit sit ups on the machine but I think changing my diet got rid of the back pain more but I still just 10 minutes of moving my body and then I'll just walk around the beach for an hour or two listening to podcasts how's your sleep and stuff like that?

my sleep is good ever since no drinking or cannabis and all that I pretty much quit everything over a year ago maybe a year and a half ago what made you do that? Ever since no drinking or cannabis and all that, I pretty much quit everything over a year ago maybe, a year and a half ago. What made you do that? It's just, I think getting older. It just becomes less fun and more of an issue for most people.

I don't know. With weed, I was smoking all day, and I would try to read books about this nutrition shit because I was obsessed with it. And I'm just looking at the thing like I can't read. I'm like, why am I? I'm a 30-year-old man that can't read because I'm smoking a fucking bush. I quit that. And drinking was just like became an issue.

Caffeine, it would like keep me up or give me anxiety. And then I'm spending $12 a day at Starbucks just to get to level zero of awakefulness or whatever. So I quit that. So you don't drink any caffeine anymore? No, no caffeine at all. No soda. Pretty much, I drink more raw milk than I do water. Whoa.

And also there's water in me, and I have fruit too. So it's like everything I'm eating I do water. Most of, and also there's water in meat and I have fruit too. So it's like everything I'm eating raw has water. Any idea on your calorie intake? I haven't really. Maybe 2,000 or something. You probably eat what? Two, three times a day? Yeah. I eat a lot of raw cheese when I'm just like as a snack

just for the calories. I think, I would guess 2,500. And then the walking takes a lot down. You mess around with any fasting or you just end up like not eating at times because you don't have raw meat? Yeah, I did intermittent fasting for a while, but I would do it if I like wanted to lose weight. But since I'm where I want to be, I just eat whenever I'm hungry.

Actually, that makes me kind of curious about that. Since you shifted your diet, can you remember when you were trying to do the vegan thing and you were messing with those diets? Have you noticed any type of difference with how often you get hungry and how you handle it? Because you're not deliberately doing any fasting. But it seems that you have some really good control of the amount of food you eat when you do eat. Yeah. When I was eating mostly plants and shitloads of carbs, I would eat as much as I possibly could at 10 a.m. and then a couple hours later, I would be dizzy or hungry again because you just burn it all real quick. But once I switched over to like having steak and eggs and i would have like

eight eggs and a pound of steak at like 10 a.m and i'd be full all fucking day so i was like that was like the main thing where i was like you don't have to be hungry your entire life super nutrient dense foods yeah i was like steak and eggs saved my life i tell tell everybody's taking eggs now i eat like i'll eat like a a raw steak and chug a glass of eggs. It's the same idea, but I still eat cooked steak and eggs, cooked steak and potatoes. I'll have chicken and rice cooked with my girlfriend. So I'm not trying to be super strict on anything.

What about ice cream or pizza, something like that? I just haven't really craved it in a long time. I was never into sweets, really. I like fruit, but I've never liked cake or any sweets like that, luckily. Never had those sugar addictions. My son's on a carnivore diet. He's joined in on World Carnivore Month. Busco cake.

Yeah, he's been doing good. And he said yesterday he was mad because he went to In-N-Out and he got a he was mad because he went to in and out and he got a uh he got a flying dutchman but he's like i ordered one because i was like gonna order it and just see how i felt and i was gonna maybe get another one in a few minutes he's like i i didn't know and he's like i ate it and he's like i got like about three quarters of the way through with it and i was like i'm pretty damn full so he was mad he's like i'm kind of mad. I like don't have my same appetite as I had before. And so with him at the moment, uh, you know, this morning when I was cooking,

uh, I cooked him some extra eggs. I threw some butter on there. I gave him some bacon. I'm like, you got to make sure you're eating like a good amount. Cause I don't want you to be like malnourished. Um, but starting like a few months ago kind of like with uh owen and stuff like that with jake lifting and just paying a little bit more attention to his diet he went from like 196 to like he's like 184 or something 186 now so he's lost a little bit of weight yeah i want to drink oh both of them but yeah yeah my son's lost some weight too yeah pretty cool yeah it's cool yeah um with me like i'm like you know you've you've uh advised people to when they start the carnivore diet just like go all in don't worry you gave me shit for

tracking one day just because i wanted to find out but i'm noticing that i cannot eat nowhere near as much as i did even three days ago right i was making eight eggs a shit ton of sausage and then uh like 200 grams of uh mozzarella cheese and i blew right through it this morning dude i left like uh like three quarters of like the chaffle that i put together because i couldn't do it anymore i'm like dude i'm fucking tapped out so it's crazy um i wasn't so much palate fatigue the way it was before it was more like i was just completely done but i would imagine do you get palate fatigue with just eating raw meat? Just because, I mean, it's kind of, it's a little, it's a lot of work to choke that down sometimes. Well,

not choke it down, but just to chew it all up. Yeah. That's why I feel like my favorite lately has been ground beef. But I feel like I can just, if I just, I go to Whole Foods, the whole process takes me like 20 minutes. I go to Whole Foods, I go in, I get a pound of ground beef and I'll get like a 12 pack of eggs. And I'll just go outside with a glass, put six of them raw into the glass. And I'll eat the pound of ground beef and the six eggs. And that's like 1,200 calories, takes like six minutes to eat the entire thing. Yeah. Holy shit.

It's efficient as hell. Yeah. And then it's's efficient as hell. Yeah. And then it's like 1,200 calories. I can go at least half the day on that, and it took five minutes to eat. And I don't have to clean shit. I don't have to do anything. People say like ground beef is more dangerous than steak because it has more surface area. But it's like, I don't know, if there's bacteria on everything.

It's like you just have to be healthy enough where you use it in the right way. Like if you eat raw meat after blacking out for New Year's the next morning, your immune system is going to be pretty damn low. And maybe something on there will be able to defeat you. Defeat. If you just keep your diet 80 80 where you want it at with healthy shit you'll be strong enough to not get defeated by a pound of ground beef do you um do you like want to participate or have you been thinking about doing anything else that's like primal like i'm sure at this point you've seen the liver king and he's got his like ancestral uh

tenants that he talks about and it seems like he's into like hunting and I know that Joe Rogan and some of the other guys talk about the experience of not only eating meat but also going out and hunting it do you have any desire or is that something you may do even for Instagram just to experience it or have you ever experienced it before um I honestly have not and I never even even expected, like, as I got older, to be eating animal products. I figured I wouldn't be because, like, I always was just listening to the vegan people. But, yeah, that's my plan. I don't want to shop at grocery stores forever.

Like, I'm just doing it. I'm in a city and it's easy. But some people are, like, starting to offer. They're like, if you're ever in my city, I'll take you hunting or fishing from the page. Sick, man. So I bet you if you're blowing my page up, I'll take you hunting or fishing from the page. Sick, man. I bet you if you're blowing my page up, somebody's going to be like, let's go. Yeah, hunters won't let it go. They're like, no, I have to.

They get so excited. And I understand what they're talking about. I've felt things like that when I lifted or I felt things like that more recently when I started running. So I get what they're talking about. And it is something I would like to experience. I just got to go do it someday I don't know how to do it I never really done it

same here looks great though I never like shot like a well I shot a bow and I shot a gun but like I don't I'm not practiced up enough to be the worst thing you can do is go out there and like you know mess up or hit an animal like a weird way or something something like that would demoralize me

honestly I'm kind of a big baby Power Project family how's it going or something, that would change. Yeah, something like that would fucking demoralize me, honestly. I'm kind of a big baby. Yeah. Power Project family, how's it going? Now, you know that on this podcast, we care about your health, your wellness, and we also care about your recovery, which is why we partnered with Eight Sleep Mattresses. Now, Eight Sleep has the Pod Pro Cover and the Pod Pro Mattress.

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I don't even know where yet, but somewhere that I could have a house with chickens and maybe a goat for milk or something, or at least go hunting and save some money on rent, have a yard. I'm sure you could have goat where you are now. Yeah, I have two bedrooms in the apartment. This guy comes out of there with his girlfriend and a goat

everywhere. We don't know what the fuck's going on in there. They go out with the animal animal it doesn't come back though yeah what about like um because you've been making it seems like you've been making meme pages for a while um first off have you ever had a regular job and then also like where did the idea come from to where you're just gonna be on your phone and make money yeah i i mentioned before i i did have a office job that's right that's right. Yeah, I remember now. That was from age 18 to 25.

And then I was just kind of making memes after that, just for fun. I didn't think there was no chance of a meme job at that point. If you made memes, you're a nerd, kind of. So we were just making fun of ourselves and making memes on Facebook, maybe for attention, I have no idea. But it was funny. And yeah, I didn't know it could be a job in like... making fun of ourselves and making memes on Facebook, maybe for attention. I have no idea, but it was funny. And yeah, I didn't know it could be a job. And like, I think maybe once I had like 50,000 followers on Instagram, somebody was like, I'll give you $50 to post this hoodie. And I was like, holy shit, $50. That's sick. And like me, I had, and like, I made a lot of friends on there like sunny side up middle

class fancy tank sinatra there's a million of them but we all just like had group chats that we were talking about like what to do in the future helping each other grow our pages like what opportunities we could have and shit like that and how do you come up with the uh the material you just always seeing memes in the real world? Yeah. Yeah. My brain pretty much works that way now. Like there's just like an inventory of meme images in my brain.

And like, I'll just be walking on the beach, listening to like a Paul Saladino podcast about carnivore diet and like putting the information into like joke formats in my head. So I had a page before this raw meat one. It was called Meat-Based News. And it was just, there's a huge page called Plant-Based News, like the biggest vegan page. So I made Meat-Based News, and it was just, I made 400 memes about the carnivore diet on that.

And then the raw meat thing kind of branched off. How do you retire some of these things? How do you move on? Because they get addicting. You know, you start these pages and they build up to have so many. And then how do you like say goodbye to them? Yeah, I don't know.

I just move on when I lose interest in making it. It just kind of happens naturally. Like five years ago, I had a page for my 2001 Honda Civic. It had its own meme page. It got to like 50k. And then I was like, fuck it. I don't care. And I just moved on to something else.

It's just funny to have a $1,000 car get famous online. So I guess half of the shit I do is just ironic. What's the page? Let's pull it up. That sounds amazing. I think I deleted the content off of it. I'm picking out the meat-based news.

There was a lot of vegan stuff there because I was just angry at my old vegan self. So good, dude. I love that you have some of the old school templates and then some new shit. I've never seen that before. Yeah, that was just because my friend was watching that show. Oh, okay.

Yeah, like you had on like on your page your fbi agent and all that shit like i remember a lot of the stuff like back when i would like frequent i funny all the time yeah and it'd be like like oh what do you do for a living or like whatever trying to impress a chick it's like look at all my memes yeah exactly it's like that was that was a good good good era it was totally making fun of it. But yeah, this page, there's a lot of... That's good. That's really good. Do you mess around with any crypto or any NFTs?

I haven't yet, no. I thought you would be a dead ringer for some of that stuff. It seems like it. I just never had the money to throw around in it. I don't understand it, really It makes sense. I'd like to gamble in it someday, I guess. After doing this for, it's been 50 something days, right? Today's day 55. And it's day 55 of what? Is it day 55 of like when you started the page? Is it day 55 of you like eating primarily only meat or like what is day 55 of me eating at like probably 50 of my meals raw right and then a year of eating mostly carnivore

and it's also day 55 of you like you every day you're getting the shot of you yeah it's a video of you in whole foods yeah right yeah so i just made that as a meme like people would remember it if it's like this dude eats it out front of whole foods every single day yeah and they give you problems for that are they no the security dudes are just like i don't give a shit what you do bro there we go yeah even when i went there on christmas it was closed the security guy is out front he's's like, it's closed, bro. I was like, I know, but I got to do this video. He's like, oh, you're good, you're good.

That's great. You had to buy extra meat the day before. Yeah, yeah. You had to load up. And have you noticed changes in your body in this 55 days? Have you lost any weight? Was that any sort of goal? Were you trying to gain any weight?

Or have you noticed anything in particular? I'm mainly just concerned about my skin problems and my energy. And my energy has been good. I keep craving raw stuff more now than cooked. It's starting to switch. The first couple weeks, everybody would ask, and I'm like, obviously cooked meat with salt tastes better.

But, and that's still probably going to be true forever. But like, I enjoy this a shitload more than I did when I started. I think it's too soon and not enough time to tell if raw is something that's like magical or something, but it's something that I plan to do forever. If I don't, if nothing bad happens, like i'm always going to have some animal products in my diet that are raw yeah even if it's just raw milk and cheese or some shit but raw organs too but yeah um i think it's too soon to tell exactly what raw has changed like the meat-based diet thing has changed everything. But this is just not enough.

So people may not have to go to this extreme. I don't tell people that they should or have to. I'm just like, I want to try it anyway and it's kind of funny. Do you mess with anything like protein shakes or any other kind of supplements? You mentioned the liver stuff.

I do the liver and milk and eggs and stuff, but I'm actually doing no supplements at all either. Nice. I just want no pills, no medications, no pills, no supplements. Any blood work? Have you messed around with any blood work? I haven't done it yet, but I got some people that are trying to do it for me.

So I'm going to see what they're talking about. Have you had any blood work over the years just in general no yeah most people yeah most people haven't so i haven't been to a doctor in like 15 years at least and that's another thing and i think it's a really interesting thing because normally uh people have like some sort of dental plan they see a dentist twice a year but they never really see a doctor which i think think would be good. If people even periodically went to the doctor every two or three years, why not? It'd be a good idea, but I just don't think that's in our plans. It's like I felt like shit most of the time, but I was also drinking and smoking. So I'm not going to be like, I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

A lot of people do, though. A lot of people are 100 pounds pounds overweight and they go to the doctor and they're frustrated with their doctor and they don't know why their feet hurt or why their back hurts or why this hurts or that hurts. And they're super frustrated. And it's like, well, maybe if you made some changes and you're still frustrated, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah. One of the most important things I saw at the beginning of the carnivore research was like Michaela Peterson's like 20 minute YouTube thing where she talked about like mental health being tied to your diet because I didn't know that that was a thing and then since being

full-blown into all this shit it's like it's probably the main cause of mental health issues is eating terrible foods has it helped you in that way or did you not have that issue? Yeah, it actually did. I considered myself depressed for like, it would go up and down. But I remember like just like 15 years of that as well. Just like, I don't, I'm not excited about the future, but I'll do it. But I don't know, now I'm having fun. And like, I feel like my brain is at least working like 75 percent of the way it's supposed to be just 15 years of being depressed and then how long like about a year of yeah introducing eating more meat and getting rid of some junk and now you are are you depressed

at all anymore I don't think I am right now no I don't consider myself to have that anymore like that's pretty miraculous. Like, that's fucking miraculous. That's unbelievable. Yeah, that's, it's where all of this energy for all of this memes and stuff comes from, to share with people. I mean, I talk to people in the DMs for two hours a day. Damn.

They're like, this is what I'm doing. This is, some people are teaching me. I'm telling people YouTube links and books that helped me. And it's really just everybody trying to help each other because I'd say 80% of the country is sick in some way with obesity or metabolic syndrome, whatever, but everything is diet related mostly. I mean, there's other reasons to be depressed with relationships and family and whatever,

but you can't get out of it with a shitty diet. Nope. If you don't like the person that you're seeing in the mirror every morning, or you're not on even just something as simple as being unhappy with your body, I think that that makes things a little harder. You know, it doesn't mean anything's impossible. It doesn't mean that you hate yourself, but it makes things a little more stressful, I think.

Yeah. It's like i think at this point the natural human diet is mostly animal products and we're probably omnivores but if you're just not getting these nutrients that we've been getting for so long to your brain your brain's gonna be pissed off you know it's like that's the problem they're like why aren't you eating bro yeah like Yeah. Like, there's food everywhere. Get it. Yeah.

Do you guys, you and Mark and Nsema, do you guys think that you will continue to eat raw meat? I'm going to bring the liver back. Because I've been, I mean, I eat liver intermittently every now and then. But whenever I have eaten liver, I always feel pretty fucking good for a while. So I'm definitely going to bring that back. I know that I'm not afraid of doing this now because I wouldn't just stick a ribeye in my mouth, but after doing it, it's like it's not that big of a deal. So if I'm in a

rush, I don't even want to whatever. I eat my shit pretty rare anyway, but I'll just fucking chomp down on half of it because this was nice. Or at least get steak tartare at a restaurant or something. Yeah, I'll fuck with that. I'll be honest.

Definitely. It's a welcome change. I liked it and probably the same thing. I might just do it here and there. Raw eggs, I haven't really messed with much of raw eggs, but a lot of times if I do cook eggs and I'm trying to make them more – I'm not to make them I guess like more like I'm not scrambling them I usually actually will cook the whites and then I leave the yolks and I pour the

yolks out later I just found it to be like kind of more enjoyable that way but I've never really tried to eat like a lot of raw eggs I have thrown them in I've thrown eggs actually and this works really good anyone that's like more concerned about you know the egg not being cooked,

I've actually thrown an egg in coffee before and it works really well. Put it in a blender. Raw egg and coffee? Yeah, because the coffee's fucking hot. You blend it. I used to blend it with some butter or even a little bit of butter, MCT oil.

It's fucking awesome. Now you have a coffee that's fortified with some good protein and some good fats and so something like that can work pretty good so that's kind of my only experience

with like a raw egg but it's probably not raw because it's getting cooked by the heat of the poached in coffee yeah and it doesn't really get cooked that much

because the egg cools down the coffee you know what I'm saying so it's not that hot interesting I think like like cooking

an egg sunny side up, like you said, most of the nutrients is in the yolk, so that's probably pretty damn similar. And cooking a steak rare is probably pretty damn similar nutritionally, but I'm just doing it a little more extreme and I just think it's funny to not prepare it whatsoever.

You're just more of a badass than we are. That's perfectly okay. That's perfectly okay. That's perfectly okay. It's just the FDA can't scare me. They try. Every time they post, they're like, don't drink raw milk. Make sure you get pasteurized milk before you make those cookies.

That's something I'm purchasing today. I never fucked with raw milk. I never really honestly knew about it. I don't think I've actually tried it before, but that is really good. They'll send you some. I have their IG handle. I'll have them send you some.

It's amazing. My son's going to be on that shit. Yeah, raw butter, raw milk, raw cheese, that company. Organic Pastures is unbelievable. Yeah, I'm actually going camping on their farm in a couple months. Oh, nice. They do something called camping with the cows, and you get to see how all the shit works.

What? So I'm going. My girlfriend got me tickets for Christmas. That's awesome. They're going camping with the cows. I was like, shit.

We cannot top that. I think that's where we should end this. Andrew, take us out of here. Sure thing. Thank you everybody for checking out today's episode.

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