Mark Bell's Power Project - Never Stop Making Gains (Hypertrophy & Altheticism) - Marc Lobliner || MBPP Ep. 967

Episode Date: August 7, 2023

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What have you done to kind of build up your back and your shoulders? Honestly, I started training like a bodybuilder. You're holding a lot of muscle. You're a bit older. Have you managed to actually also keep very healthy as you're doing all of this? Is bodybuilding healthy at that level? No. But it's all about mitigating risks. If you're natural and your body is able to just actually pack on that mass. Like Mike O'Hearn?

Because they had a report that Prime will kill your kids or something. I'm like, no, this will literally do nothing to anybody. There's nothing in here. It's flavored water with a little bit of coconut powder. And I think that's one reason I'm gaining muscle. I mean, a lot of us go diets 80%. No, if you look at the best bodybuilders, best athletes of all time, they're not known for their ability chicken. They're known for their ability to lift heavy ass weights with high intensity. At my age to elicit hypertrophy and not have the risk, I really need to just hunker down, do more isolation movements, do more machines,

do better and longer eccentric movements, you know? And I think that's where I've seen the growth and that could stop and that's where you have to periodize. That's where you have to undulate. Hope you guys are enjoying this episode. We continue to produce this content for free and if the podcast has brought value to your life, it would mean a lot to us if you could go to your favorite podcast platform whether that's itunes or spotify and give us a star rating it'll help the podcast grow and it won't take you much time enjoy the episode but you can be nope nope not at all as a jew he can't be

racist no we can't we canceled Kanye. Can you believe that? It's unbelievable. How do you cancel Kanye? The guy said everything bad about everybody, and then all of a sudden it's like, you know, I think the Jews own Hollywood. Done. Done. There goes your Adidas contract. Silenced.

You should have heard our conference call on Friday after he said that. The Jews have a conference call every Friday. We all get together and have a conference call yeah yeah pretty much we just get together and we're like oh okay let's so what black guy should we cancel this week and it was just kanye's week yeah oh my god the method man he got off easy that week did method man do something to you guys i'm sure he will everybody does yeah that's one you'll never hear me say anything bad about jewish people because they're perfect except for height hair loss male pattern baldness just so much testosterone going through all their veins oh yeah because jewish men are just known for their masculinity

like ben shapiro like when i think manly man, I think Ben Shapiro. Hey, Ben is extremely smart. Yes. That Jews, we have the second highest, second smartest people in the world. Oh, see. Told you. Koreans got us. They do. But they also, they're number one in something else.

The opposite of what you're number one in, in SEMA. What would that be? Tell me. I'm curious. Penis size. Because I actually saw a chart. I don't know if it's true, but like... Congolese is at the top or some shit.

There's one country in Africa where the average penis size is like 7.6 inches. Is that it? Angie is 1.5% Congolese. Actually, it's 23% me. I think it's like two percent yeah yeah so you so you get two percent of that penis size yeah buddy what is two percent of 7.6 inches but did you get the rest of the white guy size in there too or did you just get the small

black penis what is going on right now? I have a funny story, though. By the way, this birthday cake outright. Really good. I haven't had this one. It's nice and soft. Is it purposely soft? Don't forget. Yes.

So we changed the ratio. Purposely soft. We changed the ratio of peanut butter and honey a little bit. So it has a longer shelf life because usually it's 12 months but it actually probably lasts a long long time um meaning but it'll just lose that texture and quality but usually the goal is even quest will tell you this after about three months it starts to lose it's great stuff like i remember talking with lenny i forgot it was the guy from rx bar but he was saying that yeah you got to get rid of it in three months. Because it's a food product, right?

Like bread or anything, right? But this, I'm guessing it will give us an extra two or three months of just having that experience. That, oh, this is soft experience. But back to penises. So I was getting a lift driver. Hello. Very nice. Just massage it.

I had a Lyft driver on the way home, and out of nowhere, she's like, you know, I was with a black guy once. He came out of the bathroom, and yeah, he had a small penis. She just brought it up out of nowhere, and I'm like, all right. This is why I take Lyft and not Uber, because you get these great conversations. You know what that's called? That's called a fable. No, no.

There's a tall tale. There has to be an outlier. There has to be an outlier. Like one black guy with a small penis. Just one. He's out there. That sucks to be that guy, though. You know what I mean?

Because there's these high expectations that are placed upon you. And then you just don't. It's like being Asian and being bad at math. Like everybody's sitting next to you in class, like ready to copy you. I don't know what to do. They fail. They change their mind. What the fuck, Herman?

What's going on here? Herman? Or a Jew who's broke like a poor Jew. They exist. or a Jew who's broke like a poor Jew they exist by the way guys again to reiterate Mark is Jewish yes yes he's black if you could have told they could be listing on Spotify or something bro

you gotta make sure can Jews cancel Jews for saying Jewish joke can we cancel ourselves we're gonna see we'll find out today after this podcast is anybody Asian here Can Jews cancel Jews for saying Jewish joke? Can we cancel ourselves? We're going to see. We'll find out today. After this podcast. Is anybody Asian here? I think we've said they have small penis.

I didn't say this. You said this. Don't say we. Just Koreans. According to you. According to the data. You got to follow the science. Dr. Fousey told us this.

I'm just following the science. What's up with the shirt you got here? I love hot moms. Do you guys not love hot moms? I think they're great. I think hot moms are good. I love them. You know, my wife's a mom. I love her. Yeah. And if she has hot

friends, I love them too, but not in the same way. You're not in love with the hot friends. You just love them. But do you have to ask them, do you have kids? If they say no, you're like, not a mom. Honestly, if I was single, you just look for moms.

You know they put out. At least once. They did it at some point. At some point, they had sex. That's a qualifier. Sadly, it's not a bad strategy. If you're a young single man and you're just trying to do your thing, it's safe, reliable. Yeah, you know they've been there.

And you know where they stand on protection. I mean, it's 99, what is it, Connumom like 99 point something percent extremely yeah yeah extremely high so i don't get why guys are out here taking risks like there's a there's a very large amount of guys i know who are young who are just like yeah why wrap it up this doesn't feel as good doesn't feel as good man like man they have a point okay there's also stds dog there's a lot of people out here just going around with syphilis. Those aren't going to feel so good. I'm married.

I don't quite have that same concern. Well, yeah. I literally hate condoms so much. I had surgery. Yeah, I had a vasectomy. Twins. Did you get a vasectomy? Yeah, definitely.

It hurts, doesn't it? I sat there on the table just laughing. And the doctor was like, is everything okay? I'm like, this is stupid. I'm like, because I don't want to create more and I want to be able to not have to wear a condom. I'm willing to go get busted wide open.

This is stupid. Your fucking ball sack is slit open. So he got done and then the dude rolls around the chair to the other side. I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, there's two of them. And I'm like, there's not a central valve valve like you think there'd be a central valve for vasectomy like there has to be an on off switch in there somewhere i just don't think they found it they go in each test when they inject it oh were you put out no dude of course and there's and there's nothing you know there's nothing you can put on there to like try to like

soften the... They grab it and your ball, you know the brain where you squeeze it and the ball comes... I see the veins on the... Yeah. And so then they inject it with stuff. Yeah. Are you saying they gave you literally nothing? Well, they give you...

No, because the number is what they put in there. Yeah. Yeah. It's needle straight to the... I think you might have put like a spray or something. Not on me. Like a local anesthetic. Your guy was just hardcore.

He was one of those World War II doctors. No, because here's the thing. I was just like, oh, you don't put any kind of topical numbing thing? And he was like, well, no, the needle's not the worst part. It's the medicine that goes in that you cannot avoid.

I'm like, oh. And the thing is, it's like where they inject it is not like if you ever feel your your scrotum there's like a knot above your testicles that part is like if you squeeze that that shit fucking hurts that's where they inject and that's where all the magic happens what about being on testosterone not not good enough because it lowers your sperm not enough enough it lowers the quantity but not the quality and you have a lot of sperm dude didn't like Branch Warren's been on steroids

since he was like 10 Ronnie Coleman has like 9 kids bro like it doesn't work Ronnie Coleman has like 8 or 9 kids good for this man those genes need to be out there Ronnie Coleman needs to have his hopefully there's like a lot of babies running around from other girls, too.

I want a Ronnie Coleman baby, like Arnold's baby, but he's not that great. Ronnie's baby would be better than Arnold's baby. Arnold's baby is kind of a disappointment. Generation Iron always posts this picture. I'm like, let down. We need someone bigger on more steroids. We need Ronnie Coleman. We need those genetics out there.

When you have a specimen... Sounds like he got genetics out there. Like when you have a specimen. Sounds like you got him out there. Just needs to freeze his sperm. Like he needs to just bust a lot, freeze that shit. So that like, we can just make future Ronnies, bro.

Like rock. Ronnie has, yeah. I mean, that's genetics you want out there. Like I said, like as a man with children, I'm looking at the future.

Every time they're, they're dating somebody, I'm going to be like, man, I wonder like we got to have someone who runs under a 4'5 in the 40. Who's got at least like a 3'15 bench press at like 13 years old. I think that's what we're looking for. We can't

have, I can't have my beautiful bloodline passed down to some weak people. Like, but we need someone taller than me, though. I'm the only short, my brother's like 6'1", my dad was near 6', like, and I'm sitting here at like 4'3". You know, and then they're like, oh, you're too tall to be in the 2'12". I'm like, there's only two things I'm too only short. My brother's like 6'1". My dad was near 6'0". I'm sitting here at like 4'3". And then they're like, oh, you're too tall to be in the 2'12".

I'm like, there's only two things I'm too tall for. That's being a 2'12 bodybuilder and being a jockey. Jockeys are like five feet or something, right? Yeah. I'm like the biggest jockey I've ever been. This guy's a giant. It's like if you went to Korea. Not with your height, but with your penis they wouldn't know what to do with it man what is this kaiju kaiju

oh shit that was japan hey man hey quick quick question to both of you guys real quick what was your experience having to nut 20 times post vasectomy? Did you guys just like, I was, I saw it as a challenge. I tried to get it done as quick as possible. Yeah. Well, cause what he told me, he was like, oh yeah, it's going to take like afterwards. He was like, it's going to be like three or three months or longer. And I'm like, whoa.

I'm like, that's how long it takes to like clear it out. He's like, well, that's it. You have to ejaculate like about 20 times. You can get that done in a day and a half. I was like, whoa, that's how long it takes to clear it out. He's like, well, you have to ejaculate like about 20 times. You get that done in a day and a half. I was like, fuck yeah, challenge accepted. I think we did it in like three weeks. Yeah, I think. It might have been even less.

So when you go take the test. Average is out to almost a nut a day. So when you go take the test, did you take your wife with you? No. Oh, I did. I was like, I don't want to sit in this room. And we're not freaky at all. My idea of kink is hooking a leg during missionary.

I'm like, what? I'm like a WWE wrestler. I got that. Seamus taught me that one. He's like, hook the leg, lad. Hook the leg. I'm like, that's right. I'll send you the video.

But yeah, so I was like, dude, I don't want to like stand in this room and have people know I'm jerking off. So I'm like, Katie, you got to come with me. So I'm like, that's, I took her with. There we go. I need an assistance. Yeah, mine was very different. I had an actual, like, so I had to do it at home.

So it was all good. Oh, I had to go to an office. No, but then here's the really fun part is you could see like me and a couple of other dudes walk into another facility. I got this brown bag. It's all crumpled up. And we're just like, and then they would just like, we were just like all embarrassed. And then some lady would be like, oh, yeah, you guys come over here. You know, it's a joke, right?

You don't actually have to do any of that. You're just fucking with everybody. I think so. I was excited. You didn't have to stay there, Mark. You can jerk off in a closet. I was excited for the public sex. I mean, you don't get much of that as a married man.

I'm like, if I could convince her to do this whole marriage, like this public sex thing, just like we were in high school or something, like it was great, you know? Like, you know, like, you know when you're high you have car sex right yeah you'll be a sex

offender as an adult if you get caught yeah I know yeah I mean it's not good still fighting that case but you know we're almost done I don't want to be I don't want to be caught or become a sex offender because then I'd have to be a politician that'd be really tough I don't want to be caught or become a sex offender because then I'd have to be a politician. That'd be really tough.

I don't want to go into politics. True. Yeah. Well, it's one of those days. How you guys doing? We've talked about that. That was exactly where I thought this was going to go. Andrew, I emailed you something.

If you can pull it up. Yep. He doesn't have to pull out anymore, by the way. It's cream pies. All day. 24 hours a day. It's kind of like what these taste like. Except now we've got kids.

That's how he came up with the flavor. What? It tastes like a cream pie? Yeah, like, you know, a birthday cake cream pie. Yeah. But, yeah, real cream pie. Nothing weird about it. No.

Not at all. The texture is more like a mazapan. Remember how I was telling you about this? You want to explain what mazapan is? It's some Mexican candy stuff, dude. Oh, just candy? Yeah. Oh, that's good.

I had sent Mark a link to it or like a picture of it. I was like, I don't know if you ever had these, but it'd be sick if you made a version of it. He's like, dude, I grew up in LA, so we're all good. I know exactly what you're talking about. Valley Foods in Selmar had the best tres leches cake. That's so good. This is crazy. That thing was like diabetes just right there. It's like, I don't know why the community is so fat.

I don't know. Yo. I don't know. Why is this not downloading? There we go. Is it planned? Not yet. So how did you get these bars?

You got them in a bunch of different stores and shit now, right? We're Hy-Vee. We're in, why am I blanking? We're in HEB. A lot of the major grocery stores, Quick Trip, the gas stations up there in Wisconsin, they're crushing it with them. Yeah, it's been really fun. It's been a hell of a ride. We're back in the vitamin shop, all of their stores.

It's been like a month coming back. So it's been GNC. It must be tough to keep up with the supply because once people try these, they taste very good. So it's probably tough. The main issue is the shelf life. Bars have a horrible shelf life. You make a powder, it lasts for two years. Make a bar, it lasts for three to twelve months.

So you've got to constantly churn and try to figure out. That's a big range. Three to twelve? Is it like different flavors last a different amount of time? So basically three months is when it starts to lose some of its qualities. It's still good. It's not going to explode. It's probably going to be good for three, four years, but it's just not

going to taste as good. And with bars, it's all taste. Even with powders. I remember back in the day, back in the day, protein powders were supposed to taste bad. Now, if it doesn't taste like a milkshake, nobody's going to buy it. No matter how good it is, no matter what the quality is. So it just has to taste bad now if it doesn't taste like a milkshake nobody's gonna buy it no matter how good it is no matter what the quality is so it just has to taste perfect

so we try to keep you know two to three weeks of stock so let's say we get a big order a new account we're screwed like we're gonna be out of stock for a little bit it's just it's playing that game and quest you could tell in the end of before they sold it like you go to stores there was a store once in the box this tall of expired quest bars they were trying to sell for one dollars dude i could have used these as weapons like they were so hard and that's what happens so once you scale that production yeah it just sits on the shelf longer so it's a catch-22 and that's why you have to look at these bar companies who are in critical mass and you say one thing you say that's awesome that you did that because it's a lot harder than you think it is.

On the, on the other hand, you're like, dude, how much are you running off a year in returns? Right. A lot, a lot.

So before you, before you play this clip, I'll set it up. I was going with my wife. I was going to dinner and, uh, your hot, your hot mom's shirt reminds me of this,

but, uh, I was just thinking like what she's doing in this video is super sexy. And it's just because it's just authentically her. She's just this way. So we're on our way to dinner for her birthday. So we're watching a video of your wife being sexy. Yeah, yeah.

You'll see. You'll see. You'll see. Because this is starting off really weird for me. Yeah. Just a little. This is what white people do. Like, look at my sexy wife.

Mark's acting like he hasn't been in these situations before. Not today. Not yet. It's Sunday, man. So anyway, we're on our way and she's like, oh, I want the car to be clean. So she's like, stay in the car. And she gets out of the car and she starts doing this thing. But then we took it through this little mini car wash thing.

But anyway, hit the clip. through this little like mini car wash thing but anyway hit the clip out there frantically washing fucking bird poop off our g-wagon there i like how you're sitting there watching her that's what made me laugh i'm like i'm such a fat lazy piece of shit what am i doing does she pump the gas too would you guys go to the gas are you serious my wife doesn't even know how to pump gas like she opens the door for you at dinner she just she knows she knows that like i'm gonna slow everything down and or mess everything up according to her it is great man so she's like you know gets it done i'm like that's kind of hot i'm gonna fucking film that i'm not as concerned about that. I'm concerned about you sitting there while she's doing that. It's a man's job. Oh, totally.

Yeah. Who said? A woman can work, too. You're in California. You're in California now, buddy. In Tennessee, their main job is to make sandwiches. All right? That's what most of our women do.

I still get sandwiches. I don't do any laundry. I don't do any dishes. Yeah. I'm not allowed to do laundry. I never touch the bed. I never clean anything. I don't do any laundry. I don't do any dishes. I'm not allowed to do laundry. I never touch the bed. I never clean anything. That's great.

No, I'm pretty – I'm just horrible at everything. I do pick up after myself a little bit here and there, but not that much. Yeah, I don't do much of that either, come to think of it. I'm just not good at it. Like she has this laundry technique. I just can't. Okay. She has a system.

I'm sorry. This is something that has really shocked me. I remember Chris Elkins came on the show he's like damn she did all the dishes and laundry and shit what is so hard about laundry guys no here's what i do in laundry okay everything that's colored you made sure to be like colored and you looked me right in the eye deep in my soul i realized everything that is of a color. So I just do colors, go. Okay. Yeah, cold.

Yeah. Now she has like different colors of colors. Yeah. She has light colors, dark colors, sensitive colors. She has delicate. Sensitive colors? Delicate, delicate, sounds sensitive. And so it's, and it's some process

like i come home and i'm like i'll take care of it just goes in there and turn it on and we're good no but she has but granted she can do that because we have a lot of clothes we have three kids and they all play sports there's at least two or three outfits a day dude i feel like it's as simple as you have your whites you have your colors and then you have the one you have your whites your colors and then you have the things that you just don't put in the dryer like maybe you're you're fancy clothes so you dry that shit that's what most people think yeah but no not my wife okay fair enough she has her system she has a system and i'm not i'm not gonna mess with that and that way i don't have to do laundry well you'll you'll get yelled at yeah yeah i said well

you what's gonna happen if red goes with black? I'm pretty sure it'll be okay. I'm pretty sure it'll be okay. But no, you have to have them all separated. Girls have weird clothes. Your speaker's dude doesn't have two women in the house. They have stuff that needs to be washed in separate bags. Underwear and bras

with underwires. They have these bags, these lingerie bags. There's a lot of science that goes into our laundry. It's a tough situation. Folding is a whole other ballgame. But you're speaking as someone like, I've been with my wife since high school. Like you too, right?

Something like 20 something years, 25 years. We're at 20, same thing. See, like you've actually lived life as a human being alone. Yeah. Like we've never had to be adults. We basically went 26. Same thing. See, like, you've actually lived life as a human being alone. Yeah. Like, we've never had to be adults. Like, we basically went from our mom taking care of us to like, oh, this is my new mom. Yeah. In a weird kind of, you know, weird kind of Oedipus kind of way.

Yeah. Y'all take care of each other. Y'all take care of each other. Hopefully everybody knows the Oedipus reference. The Oedipus complex? Yeah. If you don't, just Google that real quick. Well, basically. Oedipus reference. The Oedipus complex? Yeah. If you don't, just Google that real quick. Well, basically the dude.

Oedipus accident. Well, go ahead. Yeah, yeah. He had sex with his mom. On accident. I don't think he realized it initially. Yeah, it wasn't like, hey, there's my mom. She's kind of hot.

I love my mom. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Isn't that Freud? Freud was the one who's like the whole incest thing, right? Or the. Well, that was Freud.

Yeah, theory, yeah. Yeah, dude, we got to stop listening to those people. Sounds like California's been falling too much of that stuff. Perhaps. Definitely. Oh, man, I just fended all of California. Except for the... I'm from California.

Oh. Wait, you really? Yeah, first 26 years of my life. You were born down here? I was born in Chicago. I moved at six months, and I lived up in, I went to Culver City High School in the real California, southern. Okay. Like L.A., right?

That's fancy. L.A.-ish area. Yeah, it was really far to get here. It's like seven hours, man. P.C.H. So we were talking a little bit earlier about bodybuilders, and you were saying we were talking about how some of them aren't maybe the most mobile no and i know that i know that you're coaching uh you're coaching some high school wrestling and you're participating in uh some of the training that they do with lifting weights and stuff like that uh do you still

utilize bodybuilding methods and if you do um what are some of the reasons why? So there is difference in what we do. So nobody really cares how big your muscles are in the field, except you do, right? Yeah. You might feel good about yourself. Yeah. They're naturally going to get, they're going to gain muscle. We had one kid gain 33 pounds in eight weeks, took his 40 from a 5.3 to 4.6. 33 pounds in eight weeks. Yes. I love it. So yeah. How do you do that? How do you do that? Was he, he basically trained with us. So what we do is we have a 5.3 to 4.6. 33 pounds in eight weeks. Yes. I love it. So yeah, how did he do that? How did he do that? He basically trained with us. So what we do is we have a combination. So he comes, I believe, four to five days a week.

So we use different methods. We obviously do athletic training. We obviously do different movements, movement prep, pillar prep, things like that, making sure the body's right, ready to move. But when it comes to weight training, there's different methods we use. We do use conjugate.

We do use a lot of West side stuff. We did a lot of explosive things like a quadruple extension deadlifts, AKA jump deadlifts. We'll also do your standard stuff. We love goblet squats on a slant board, activate that VMO. We love doing sleds and we sprint. Like if you want to get faster,

you probably should learn how to run. And a lot of kids, if they simply learn how to use their arms when running, it'll add 25% of their speed. And that number is my best guess because I've seen it so many times. You see kids coming in, their arms are out here. They're all over the place. If you teach them simple cheek-to-cheek, driving the arms.

And, I mean, we'll train everybody from six-year-olds, eight-year-olds to D1 college football players. A lot of females, a lot of males. But it's all the same in performance, right? Like a lot of things you'll see the biggest scam in training, in youth training is sports specificity. Because basically your goal is to make them more efficient athletes at moving, generating force. Like what is running? you're generating force against the ground so you go to some of these speed schools i got in trouble for saying this but a lot of them don't use force they don't use weights they don't use load how am i going to learn how to generate more force if i'm not generating more force and that's why you see

the studies done by flaherty with nike showing that the hex bar deadlift is the only thing i that i know of that is scientifically proven the only lift to actually improve your 40 yard dash time and the reason is simple you're generating force against the ground with your posterior chain so once you teach the form you teach all of that you apply it so that's where you need to run then you got the field speed so you have to be able to turn you have to be speed. So you have to be able to turn. You have to be able to move. You have to be able to do different drills. So we do a lot of different things from blaze pods to work on their reaction. So the main thing is, if you look at sports, if you're the strongest and the fastest on the field, you're not going to be the worst player.

So sports specificity, that's practice. So I'm not going to have you stand on a BOSU ball and catch a football while holding a dumbbell in one hand. You know, we're going to work on things that will make you more efficient at moving on the field, doing the things you do on the field. So most sports are trained pretty similar. Like, hey, we only weight train wrestlers. Why? Why would that movement not apply to football or soccer or lacrosse? It's all very similar movements.

You're making a better athlete. So we make them better athletes. And then you apply that to your sport. Yeah, it's pretty simple just by helping them get stronger because a lot of these kids are probably fairly new to lifting, right? Yeah, and a big thing is also velocity training, moving the bar as fast as possible. So a lot of kids will get strong, but then they won't apply that.

So we need to apply that. So that's where you have these new things, these new tools that actually measure how fast the bar goes. So if I, okay, let's say we move at 19. Let's just make a random number. If I get them to move at 17, move basically point A to point B faster, that's going to make them that much better. So it's not just about strength. It's about moving something, a heavy object or a relatively heavy object as fast as

possible from point a to point b and you can do that with multiple movements from bench press to even box squats that's another thing um i learned that from conjugate as well we took that from them we do full range of motion um obviously goblet squats deep in the bottom deep stretch but generally speaking i will not free squat most kids. We usually use box squats. Safer, safer, and safer. Like if you're injured, you can't play. Our goal is to prevent injury, not induce injury. And I think we talked about this last time.

Like female athletes, they hurt their knees a lot. They have that 17 degree difference in their Q angle. So their hips are like this. Men's hips are like this because they give birth. It's a built-in biological thing. So by strengthening their adductors, by strengthening their glutes, and making it where valgus is less possible, less of a possibility, we reduce their chance of being injured.

Every time a girl walks on a soccer field, she has a 5% chance of injuring ACL. 5%. 5%. Every time she walks on a soccer field, she has a 5% chance of injuring ACL. 5%. 5%. Every time she walks on that field. And that's why every year, my daughter's soccer team, they just started their first games on Tuesday this week. Every year we lose out of 20 girls, two of them like clockwork. Boom. Done.

Do you have all the girls, do all the athletes on your team strength train with you or just some of them opt into doing that? Everybody strength trains. Okay? Everybody strength trains. Okay. Everybody strength trains. Now there's different levels. I'm not going to put an eight-year-old kid who has legs this big in his knees cave. I'm not going to have him.

I think I showed you the video earlier. I'm not going to have him have a band-resisted box squat. Not going to do that. But we're going to goblet squat him. We're going to do wall-facing deadlifts. We're going to fix their – we're going to do a squat them we're going to do wall facing deadlifts we're going to fix their we do a lot of ring rows to make sure that the you know they have good posture yeah we're going to increase their posterior chain we're going to improve their upper body and again it doesn't must some can't bench press the bar so what do we do well we can use plate presses we can use med ball throw presses there's so many different options and

they're like push-ups a lot of these kids can't do push-ups but we get them where they come to us for eight weeks they'll be benching the bar in eight weeks from not being able to hold their own body weight so who's more likely to have a knee injury an injury in general someone whose knees cave just standing like this or moving or someone who could stand like this straight without their knees caving holding 300 pounds the weak kids more like get injured that's why it's like well strength training injured kids no stupid people injure kids people who don't know how to train kids now i post a video yes that little gronk kid his dad had him doing a a power a v squat is this on your instagram it's on my instagram he had him doing a v squat coming down this far with 250 pounds on it see that's what her kids what what is that like what can you tell me what that's

gonna do for that kid well oddly enough even though this isn't it's a limited range of motion so i also don't see what is how that's gonna hurt that kid unless he started having valgus as he was coming down it's not gonna hurt him but it's gonna it's definitely putting pressure on him that he obviously can't handle through a full range of motion. Of course. Yeah. And also, like, why would you put a kid like that in a machine? Why wouldn't he be supporting that weight with his body?

Why isn't he holding a – why isn't he using a yoke bar? Yeah, and they're excited about the weight because it says 250 pounds. Oh, yeah. Well, this guy is just going for clicks. Yeah, absolutely. He's just – he's basically pimping out his kid for clicks and whatever. But I also want people to know that what happens is, this happens all the time. A bodybuilder dies, all of a sudden all of us have bad hearts.

I'm sure you've seen that. You've probably seen the chatter. Okay, obviously there's different levels of taking care of yourself during bodybuilding. There's a lot of bodybuilders. Ronnie's in his 50s. He's still alive. And I would venture to guess he might've taken steroids. It's a possibility.

So what happens when you see people do this is they automatically lump all strength training for kids into this. Cause this is what's getting the views. This is what's getting the clicks. When you have, you know, good, good coaches doing the right things, coaching kids the proper way, the proper progressions, we all get lumped together with that guy. It's like, Oh, well, it's dangerous for kids.

You see what that kid was doing. And it just lumps us in and it makes it harder for us to get kids in because it gives us that reputation. I mean, it, it just, it's, it's unfortunately, you see what gets the clicks. And so when people think youth training, they think that, right. They don't, because what we do isn't sexy. Like doing lateral band walks,

isn't sexy. Doing wall drills, isn't sexy, but that's what gets the results. The simple things, right? Simple things that we do some complex things, but they all have the intention of being able to translate in the field,

make kids stronger, faster. And the number one thing we do is we make it less likely for kids to get injured. That's it. I mean, we've, I've yet to have training over thousands of kids,

including mostly female soccer players yet to have one non-contact ACL tear. I've yet to have one real injury, you know, broken bones don't count. I can't prevent if a 300 pound kid falls on you. Mark, before you play this, Mark, I have a question for you. Cause I know first off that video that you showed to that kid, most people that put kids in those situations may probably aren't thinking of the benefit of like doing a partial ROM and the kid

just being able to handle his CNS being able to handle that load because this is julian baldy he's he plays college football and sometimes he'll do stuff like this i think this is like 905 pounds with chains and you can play it he'll just allow himself to have that partial range so his cns understands how to handle that load and keep stability so that kid was on that machine. I think that sometimes, maybe, if people know how to do it well, they can do those partial ROMs with heavier load so that their body understands what

that weight feels like. Completely. You have to know what you're doing. That's something that's been... I also don't think that this kid's in college. I wouldn't be putting a 10-year-old doing that, right? A 10-year-old, like like my son box squats 285 pounds at 10 years old damn but he also can hold a 70 pound kettlebell and do a ass to ass to the ground goblet squat so there's a time and place so yeah box squats we set the bar a little bit higher 90 degrees slightly above yeah

but i mean we're usually and this is is something I take from Joel Seidman. The thing about him is, I mean, look, it's worked for his business. And I'm not – I don't think there's any wrong training. There's just training that we like better than the other, right? And that was a great debate, by the way. Thinking of the video from the other day with this the recent okay so who please don't lose your train of thought but it'll be gone in a minute but go ahead you're on your son yeah joel's just posted some interesting stuff as of recent

like he posts cool stuff but then i see stuff like this and i'm just like dog i don't think i could finish this podcast this is okay i mean if you think about it okay maybe this athlete is like be learning how to be stable in that position when he's being tugged in different areas and he's learning how to keep his neck strong right so it makes sense it just looks ridiculous think about it this doesn't make sense let's try to just give him the benefit of the doubt there you see what might be going on right like you see what might be happening to the athlete and the forces they need to be able to handle because look he's pulling on his neck as a football player probably you need to be able to handle that type of force he's having to be stable in this offset position

it looks crazy and i wouldn't do it the kettlebell around it like the head too i know he has his head has to stay stable his head has to stay stable. His neck has to stay stable. It is fucking wild, though. With all due respect, this is the dumbest shit. I haven't seen this one. This totally caught me off guard. I think I need another mind bullet after that one.

Look, man, there's... I mean, he has his ways, and obviously a lot of people think they work. And I do think that the box squat we're trying to generate as much force as possible, get them to start without the rubber band effect at the bottom and handle loads above what they'd normally handle if they didn't have that box there and also prevent them from injuring themselves, which you've injured yourself on a squat. We want to be able to load that. And on a box squat, if they screw up, we have time to get there and brace them and come up. This is honestly, well, it was funny because when I listened to the debate with my friend Mike Israel and this guy, Joel Seidman, I don't know. He seems like a great guy. How much is he actually using this?

Or is this just. He said a lot of it is for clicks. He said that this makes up maybe like 10% of his training. So here's me giving kind of the benefit of the doubt and on the other hand, calling him kind of a shyster, which as a Jew, I can do that. At the end of the day, if he literally said that most of what he does is not what he shows

and he just does this for clicks I doubt that he's doing that that much I mean I hope not because he needs to take the athletes through a full range of motion he needs to take the athletes I think part of his thesis statement is that that is full range of motion. He needs to take the athletes and, and make them, this is. I think part of his like thesis statement is that that is full range,

full range of motion. That's, that's sort of his angle on things. So his angle is you, you know, you never do a deep squat on the football field basically. And, and, you know, but we're looking at that, but you should always train through the full range because how do you strengthen your vastus medialis if you're not doing that full range of motion? I mean, we know that you have to go pretty damn deep to strengthen that. And if you don't train it through a full range

of motion, like you're not strong. So let's say for some reason, your arm does get caught back here. You know, you have to have that full range, that, that good conditioning of the muscle, of the tendon, of the joint. And I just think, I mean, it's, it's social media in a nutshell. Would he be doing this if he didn't have Instagram? Like, does he really think that tugging at a, it reminds me of that time I dated a girl at pigtails. Um, that's fun. Pigtails are fun.

No, but it's, it's one of those things where I see he's trying to be creative with it. Yeah. But I mean, it's actually pretty simple. I mean, if you make kids stronger through different ranges of motions, on different planes, if you make them more stable, if you make them a lot of – one of the best things you can do is mini hurdles and single leg.

Skip, hop over it, land, deceleration. If you have knee pain or lower back pain, the initial thought is that it's probably coming from the knee or the lower back. But have you ever thought that it could actually be coming from your feet? Most people wear shoes like this. They are narrow. They are not flat. They are inflexible. So it's almost like your feet are stuck in casts all day long. And if you imagine that your hand was stuck in a cast all day, well, your fingers are going to become weak, but then your elbows might start feeling a little bit wonky because your fingers don't move and then it might travel up your shoulder. That's the same thing that happens with your feet when you put them in normal,

inflexible shoes. That's why you want to throw those out and start using some Vivo barefoot shoes. They have shoes for hiking on their website, working out in the gym. They have casual shoes like these Novuses right here. But the difference with Vivo is that they have a wide toe box so that your feet, like my wide ass feet, can spread and move within the shoe. They're flat so that your feet are doing the work when you're walking and they are flexible so your feet have the freedom to move the way they need to move so that they can be strong feet.

That's why you want to get yourself some of these. And Andrew, how can they get it? Yes, that's over at VivoBarefoot.com slash Power Project. When you guys get there, you'll see a code across the top. Make sure you enter that code at checkout for 15% off your entire order. Again, that's at VivoBarefoot.com slash PowerProject. Links in the description as well as the podcast show notes. Guys, look at this.

Look at that bend. I could stick that in my mouth. Do it. I'm not going to do this. It's disgusting. Get him. Can you pull up? I think you'll love this, Mark.

Power Plus with a three. P-O-W-3-R-P-L-U-S. Have you seen Brian McGinty? I have seen him, but I don't know what you're referring to. You'll see. There's some stuff he does with hops and jumps, but he's going to be coming on the podcast soon. A big thing about him is he has these athletes doing everything very fast. What was the IG? Sorry.

P-O-W-3-R-P-L-U-S, Power Plus. So for that, it's POW3RPLUS, power plus. So for that, it's time and place. So we do power skips. And we also, like, I think I showed you the video where we're doing the different two-inch runs and the skips. But when I'm working on deceleration, I want you to stick the landing and stabilize. Yeah. So there's a time and place. You didn't play that first one.

Let's see. Or let's find something where his athletes are jumping. No, no no no keep going keep right there look at the one in the middle with the girl the shorts everything is like quick feet and like fast as possible as fast and you'll see like transformations of his athletes when they first came in versus like a few weeks later, like their feet get quick, like freakishly quick. It's, it's pretty amazing that he can do this with pretty much all of his athletes, not just the certain genetic freaks. All of his athletes are able to develop pretty elite foot speed. And our athletes do too. Yeah. I mean, any athlete doing this, they're going to improve and you do utilize that, but there's, again, there's different,

there's different things you do. Like for bringing it back to power lifting which i think a lot of your base will understand as we discuss this dynamic versus you know max effort days right yeah so certain days we'll work more lateral and we'll do more dynamic and we'll work more speed on other days we're going to work on landing, deceleration, and power. So that's something we use is called, and it all goes undulation, undulating periodization. Undulating periodization means you don't have to do the same rep scheme and the same. So I kind of lump it in with Exos. So Exos has three phases, hypertrophy, strength, and power.

Hypertrophy would be gaining muscle. The theory is more men in a boat. You have more men rowing the boat hyperplasia so they kind of tie it into hyperplasia which kind of but hypertrophy same thing so they kind of i think in exos' teachings they kind of misidentify how much hyperplasia you could get i mean unless you're on a ton of gh but you can't grow forever yeah so so hypert, so hyper, hypertrophy, strength, power is basically combining speed and strength. So as I look at undulation, well, Bryce and I'll do Bryce Beal is my head coach over at legacy of carbon, my partner. Yeah. So what we'll do is we can have days where we will go through all three phases.

So that's the old school bodybuilding. Like you start with the heavy bench press, then you do the old school, like three by eight or three by 12, just to get those, the hypertrophy kicked in. From an athletic standpoint, you have to look at many different angles. You have to look at, okay, am I going lateral? I'm working on lateral. I'm working on deceleration. I'm working on acceleration.

Are we doing, do they have a game that Saturday? Like if we're training a kid on Friday, I'm not going to load him. Am I training a baseball player? I'm not going overhead with him. So again, there's so many different things to look at. That's why bodybuilding powerlifting is pretty easy programming. So that's just one, probably 20 to 25% of what we do is strength. Most of it's movement. Most of it's generating speed. Most of it's doing what that guy is doing, you know, but again, what he's doing is great, but I'm sure he does other things oh that's what he's known for i'm sure he probably does if he's good and i say this

in a confident and maybe cocky kind of way if you're a good strength coach if you're a good youth performance coach you're going to do a lot of similar things what we do because if you look at them like you look up coach swole bowl over there kent state you look at all these guys who are really good who i really respect zach evanesh he's another one you look at them, like you look up coach swole bowl over there, Kent state, you look at all these guys who are really good, who I really respect. Zach Evan Ash. He's another one. You look at these guys and what we do is pretty similar.

And that's why, you know, when I'd have them, we'd have a conversation on my YouTube channel. We'd have those conversations like, yeah, that's, that makes sense.

Moffitt came from, you know, Moffitt from LSU, the Moffitt method, similar, similar. Like he's the oneitt from LSU, the Moffitt method, similar, similar. Like he's the one who brought LSU when they had their reign, they did play some damn good football,

but it was just coincidentally Moffitt put in his strength. Moffitt made those boys men because what you do in the weight room, like we've seen it. We have a kid this year. I'm not gonna mention his name because, but he's came in, he lost 30 pounds. Kids just dominating.

Wow. His first preseason game he's a different kid his dad emailed us he's like holy shit this is insane what we're doing with these kids and good coaches can get into them it's also mental a lot of these kids they just don't know how to tap into that extra level so if you can mentally connect with these kids it's all about culture culture is everything in sports. Culture is everything in life. Culture is everything in this office. Would you say you have a good company culture here? I'd say so. Yeah.

You guys all have the same mission, same goal, similar ideas of what to do. They're in it. They drank the Kool-Aid so to speak. Same thing with a program like high schools need to have culture and they do. But what's great about legacy is that we literally have a culture within a culture where they'll bring their culture from Centennial high, from Ravenwood, from Brentwood, from any school,

from PGA. And they'll go try and kill each other on Friday night. If they're in football, right there on the different team. But when they're in that gym, I see each other. Like they know the culture. It's a culture of hard work.

It's a culture of having fun. It's a culture of getting better. And a culture of having fun it's a culture of getting better and um for some reason bryce always gets thrown up on he gets puked on a lot so i've never been he's like oh it happened again i'm like what are you doing in there yeah but it's um no but i mean that's that's life though that's business and that's why we that's why we do what we do with kids. Because, look, if we coach one to two professional athletes, let's say you're a performance coach, which is my main goal. My main goal after I'm done with all this supplement stuff, all this business stuff, I just want to coach. Legacy's it.

I'm going to have that until I'm 100 years old. Okay? I'm probably not going to live to 100. No, you might. The whole bodybuilder thing? No, man. No, no. You can't say that.

The comments will go crazy. You keep yourself healthy. I think I got a good 90. I think I got a good 90. But generally speaking, if we coach one to two pro athletes, we've done something super special. Super special.

So 99.9999% of kids who come through those doors will not play pro sports. Most of them are done after high school. So we're not really preparing them for the field. That's just preparing them for life because sports saved my life as a kid. So sports can save a lot of lives.

And that's why I coach because I had a coach change my life when I was a kid going down the wrong path, getting in fights, the gang life, all that stuff. And it was a coach who believed in me. And that's the reason I'm standing here right now. One dude. One dude. That's all it takes. So if I can be that one dude for one kid,

even not as pivotal as saving a kid's life, but just to help steer him in the right direction, maybe get him or her to do something special, do something different. I mean, or just giving them the confidence to lead, giving them the confidence to work hard, to not be intimidated. And you'll see kids come in first two weeks, three weeks, two months, three months. They could be just like this introverted by the end. They're smacking butts and having fun with everybody and they're training

and they're cheering people on and they become the leaders. And that's what we're all about. Ooh, sleds. Oh, we love sleds. We have this hill between our gyms, yeah. It's a great time. I mean. How far are they pushing that? I don't know how big the hill is.

It's just right in the back. Yeah, before we have the, yeah, there's my son. That's Preston. He's a state champ. Is he the 10-year-old one yeah he's he's a huge kid there's thomas oh that's nice yeah so um we play with bungees too like there's so many different modalities and we'll find new ones too like i'm not dumb enough to think that i know everything like i will watch other people do their training there's so much to learn there's so many things

that can work and then there's so many different athletes out there uh when you see clips or videos look at that told you wasn't lying slingshotting it yeah when you see clips and videos of people like like somebody might watch this clip and be like why is he wearing the slingshot uh-huh I'll tell you why they might uh but they might they might misconstrue what someone's trying to do with a particular person. I want to get, that was Thomas and this is Bo. Bo's a great, phenomenal wrestler. I love that kid. I love all the kids, if you can tell.

I just love people. Fired up, yeah. Yeah, I'm getting fired up. Seriously, I want to throw something right now. No, but for the slingshot, what's great about it is for them, I'm not really worried about a pec tear. I've never seen a 13- or 15-year-old tear a pec. I'm not really worried about a peck tear i've never seen a 13 or 15 year old tear a peck i'm not really worried about that not with that weight right but i want them what's crazy is we got that weight with the slingshot two weeks later we got it

without the slingshot so we got them you were talking about handling the weight slingshot i mean we have a red and a blue we break it out when it's the right time it's weird that people like a lot of people have this idea that the slingshot's just for your ego but it's like it'll help you be able to get get out of certain positions of the movement safely and you'll be able to handle that load you'll sooner or later be able to handle it without a slingshot but at least you can work with it now yeah right you know before you're able to do it without a lot of people you know kind of deem it as cheating you know and i would cheating. I would think if we're going to say that that's cheating, then putting on a belt is. People say the same thing about hex bar deadlifts because they're easier.

And I say, well, you're lifting the same weight. How are they easier? Oh, because you're in a more natural position. When you're doing a regular deadlift, again, I'm not pooping on deadlifts. But if I'm training athletes, we're doing hex bars. I have 10 hex bars. I have more hex bars i i have more hex bars than i need this um these are speed we got some bands on their speed and good form okay

that's dj that's the kid who went from five three to four six that's his brother jordan these kids are beasts i like how the technique is locked in because sometimes when people go fast they start to just you know kind of throw the weight around we are technique nazis to the point where our kids kind of hate me like i'm literally watching like your pinky was off. I got to move it. But we, we want to make sure, you know, DJ is going to do special things. That kid's going to go places. Like he's such a good kid.

It's great family. Like just so good. Love this kid. I mean, he's, he's like, that's the kid you want in there just working and leading everybody else. And that's the thing. I hate private sessions, which sucks. because you make a lot more money. So with kids, like what I'll do is always put a wrestler in every group.

I'll be like, hey, can you come at four instead of five today? Because wrestlers will make everybody else look lazy. We got this kid, Noah, and he's insane. He will literally train to the point of passing out for no reason every session because he pushes himself that hard like his his out his work rate is beyond anything you've ever seen so i like i like having a group of kids right because they level up to each other and sometimes what i used to do i used to bring my daughter who outlifts all the boys so so she'd come in there like 125 pound girl

deadlifting 400 pounds it'll really she's she'll hex bar 400 yeah good for her but yeah for hex bars i mean we've gone on this but the reason i like hex bar is that you're not tilted forward like you are with the straight bar you're in a more neutral position less less obviously you you can have your hands where it's less risk of a bicep tear as you get to go heavier. Translates more to the field, and the data just backs it up. It's just funny because, as I say often, all this stuff is made up. So the fact that people get real upset about a regular deadlift versus a hex bar, it's like, choose whatever feels better. Yeah, for athletes, I'm going to go for everybody except for powerlifters or somebody preparing for an Olympic lift.

I'm going to go hex bar. It's just the safety profile is just better. It just is, objectively speaking, you're in a more neutral position. I would agree with that. And a box squat is a little safer. A slingshot bench press can be a little safer. You know Laura Phelps? Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, so she's my business partner at my gym in Ohio. Awesome. And so she's the one, I used to do free squats. And then, like I said, we don't know everything. And then she did a seminar. Hey, come on. It's at our gym. Let's go.

I'm like, yeah. So I drove to Ohio and I'm like, yeah, yeah. We need to just box squat. Like she made a great point. She's like, why? Why not? Why would I want them in a free squat? She explained it in the way she can explain it.

I'm like, oh, yeah. And she's like, if you want that full ROM, go and do your do your other stuff that is full rom but if i'm doing a squat here's the reason i'm doing it but are there some clips of your squat from the other day is that up on your instagram right now maybe we can pull that up and get some of your thoughts on on uh what nsema is doing here i think you know when i see people doing some partial range of motion and i see people going back and forth about full range um i think you should do full range of motion half the time. I think it's really kind of the secret is to get a nice mixture. Go to my highlight.

And you'll see kind of in SEMA kind of. Go to practice. Messing around. The highlight at the very top. Messing around with some different techniques and intentionally, you know, getting really low with these particular movements. Very last, pretty much the close to the last one. All right, pause here. But I would say as you're going to go full range, you know, it's probably better off,

you know, going with a lightened load and Seema's very strong. He's got like 155 pounds on there. Yeah. And even if you look at what Israel does, he's not going with super heavy, like 90% 1RM loads. He's just controlling the eccentric, getting the full stretch, holding it there, and then coming up. So again, like I say, I don't know everything. Like I went out

there and we did legs together and I'm like, this makes sense. So again, like I've been doing this a long time, but I think we all can learn from each other. And, you know, but again, I'm not going to have youth athletes do Renaissance periodizations, you know, that's not what they that's not what

their goal is andrew go out my store real quick but for bodybuilders it's a phenomenal method to save your joints what for full rom just for full rom um full stretch right here i just want to mention something real quick i kind of think that like okay athletes get themselves in these positions when they start to run and they start to sprint, they're not flat footed. And I'm not, I don't think you should never squat flat footed, but most people who are doing a barbell squat or squat in general are learning how to just create force flat footed through their feet. How, like, if you look at the motion of my feet, how deep I'm getting into my toes and how actually much knee flexion I get there, I feel out of my quads, my glutes, et cetera,

but my feet are also getting that work. If you're an athlete who needs to shoot for a takedown or sprint in a sport, the action of the foot, you're going to be putting a lot of force through those feet. Absolutely. And being able to do that with load, your feet are able to handle that force better too. Maybe offset or staggered stance and so on.

Well, yeah, and we do a lot with the sled with that. Absolutely. We use a lot. We do a lot with the sled with that. The sled we use a lot. We do a lot of shooting drills with the sled, but going into that, the hardest thing when I transferred from bodybuilding to boxing wasn't my shoulders, wasn't my fatigue, it was my feet. My feet were

killing me because what is bodybuilding and powerlifting? You're on your heels the whole freaking time unless you're doing calf raises. So then it's like, hey, get off your heels. You got to be on your toes. I'm like, I don't think you understand.

I haven't been on my toes in like 20 years, bro. It was killing me. Like every day, my feet would feel like, oh my goodness. And it was a matter of just reconditioning them.

And a lot of people are so conditioned to using shoes and so conditioned to being over-supported that they don't have that athletic movement anymore so we do a lot of things barefoot definitely like to barefoot deadlift barefoot obviously we can't do certain things like quadruple extension and when we're

super setting like can't have you i don't want you bounding in socks you're gonna fall right we've tried it doesn't go well so i think that just looking at when you train athletes, you have to, it's a lot of common sense, but a lot of knowing how to program. But that's why undulation is great. Undulating means basically you could switch between different modalities and goals within the training session,

whether it's power, strength, or hypertrophy. And I don't think when you look at undulation, how they define it, I don't think they really get into that where they go power, strength, and hypertrophy, but that's combining systems. Because I'm like, well, exos has it in these three phases let's just use that so that's why when people go well this way is the best way this way is the best way this way is the best starting strength conjugate i'm like no no that's that's not how you that's not how you

do i don't there's a high school coach by where i live who was literally taught a class and basically used the whole session to crap on me because I did hex bar deadlifts. And I'm like, okay, forget the science. But I'm like, okay, now we're enemies. But no, his whole thing was, well, it's cheating because it's easier. But if you're lifting the same weight, you have to ask yourself, why is it easier? Could it be because you're in a more mechanically advantageous position to lift the weight so you know like another thing is like for bodybuilding you want to make the lift harder right because you want to put as much tension and eccentric force on the muscle as possible right you want that damage if i have a kid in the season

for for a sport and i'm doing a deadlift, we're not doing the eccentric. We're picking up dropping it. Cause we don't need that damage. We don't want them to get sore. Cause they need to play again. There's a time and place, but like you said, it's made up like the reason it is straight bar deadlifts.

Cause they didn't have a hex bar yet. Cause it wasn't invented yet. Oh, and also to drive your point home even further. Typically when somebody does a regular deadlift versus a hex bar deadlift, in a regular deadlift, usually with an offset grip, one hand under, one hand over, is where somebody usually deadlifts more, especially like in a high school environment. Maybe you don't have straps. Maybe kids didn't learn the hook grip quite yet kind of thing. And so that's going to actually tilt and pull on your back, your spine in a slightly different way than just a regular deadlift where the case for the hex bar your hands are just facing each

other yeah it's it's just and again i'm not going to do a quadruple extension jump deadlift with the bar you're just going to the kid's going to either hit themselves in the shin or where it hurts so again there's there's a time and place and i'm just not a fan of the straight bar for the applications that i use unless you're a power lifter if you're a power lifter i mean but other than that can you here's a question would you see any time when a straight bar deadlift be more advantageous than the hex bar deadlift other than for power lifting or preparing for an olympic sport the only thing i can think of is uh if you wanted a kid to maybe do like rdls i have not really

tried rdl is different story yeah like if you're doing like a straight leg deadlift to try to really get into the hamstrings, I think the way that a straight bar is set up is probably a little superior. Absolutely. Other than that, I can't think of any other reason on why you would even give a shit. Yeah, I love hex bars. I mean, it's the first thing I bought. When I was coaching, when I was doing the strength program at Campton United in Illinois, the soccer program,

they're like, what do you need? I need five hex bars and some bumper plates. That's it. That's it. And then bands. We got that whole area set up for under 1500 bucks. Yeah. And there's so many different ways that you can set up that, like the hex bar in itself. You could do a stagger stance, hex bar deadlift. You could do it from a deficit. There's a lot of ways you can set that up. So it's not, it doesn't need to just be done in one way, but the pool is more that up so it's not it doesn't need to just be done in one way but the pool is more advantageous and it's much easier for an athlete to be able to do athletes could even fucking jump with it if they wanted that's what we do it's a quadruple extension

so the goal when i coach that it's the goal is not to jump it's to produce so much force that your feet leave the ground yeah different mental push because when they're trying to jump their upper body does weird things so when you just say deadlift it's so fast that your feet leave the ground and that's the way to if you're looking at how to coach it because i guarantee if they jump with this it's gonna make some weird just that simple mental cue simple mental cue it's all about the cues there's something i did this is why i ran into the gym there's something i wanted to mention these aren't released yet they're the modus strength shoe from vivo but this is why like if you're planning on doing things on your forefoot most shoes are really fucking stiff like

the action of the foot i was able to get here because these shoes are flexible enough for me to get here comfortably but if you're using like a standard fucking like even some metcons nike metcons or some of those crossfit shoes they are very stiff very stiff so if you try to get foot action, your foot isn't even going to want to do that because the shoe is going to be stopping you, which is why these types of things make a very big difference. Shoes are very important. That or barefoot. Yeah. I'll barefoot as much as possible. Yeah.

And for the kids, it's like, you know, sometimes they'll come in with the really high heel shoes like the Nikes. Those Air Max are the worst thing you could possibly wear to train in. It's one of those things where I'm more of a minimalist type guy, but the kids just wear what's cool. And those shoes don't look cool to them. For goodness sakes, I'm wearing some Jordan breads right now. I'll see a lot of powerlifters doing training in Jordans, and that's fine if everything you're doing is flat footed. Because your foot doesn't need to do anything other than just stay here Cutler trained in Jordan's whole career That was like his she's like I like him better than these lifting shoes and lifting shoes just look silly

They just they just do it just it's when I was I remember Otomics back in the day. They still out there I remember those so they're my bodybuilding shoe. Oh, were they were so like oto mix rider rider wear made them pretty nice like theirs are pretty slick the kai green versions are pretty slick i love those guys but like for the most part man otomics has stepped up their game too okay but for the most part those are so sick oh yeah oh yeah but they i mean i've never worn any but they look like they're pretty flexible. They're very minimalist. They're the first minimalist shoe I know. A little bit like a wrestling shoe.

In fact, I used to wear rider wear when I boxed. I couldn't wear boxing shoes because the toes... If you look at boxing shoes, the toes are like high heels. They have the opposite of a wide toe box. They're horrible. I bought the best ones, the Nike, whatever it was,. Cause I'm like, I'm gonna do this right. And I'm like, how do people wear these things? So I just started wearing the rider wear in the boxing ring.

Like, are you really, really boxing? I'm like the same frigging soles. They're just minimalist soles. Except this actually has somewhat of a toe box. Yeah. But yeah, it's, I mean, I think that's the biggest thing we've pretty much found out is I think we found out a lot more about feet. You know, it's not

just a way to make extra money on the internet by selling feet pics which is a thing there's a site like an only fans for feet my female kendall y'all remember don't forget the feet he was getting excited we had uh he's he won the world he won the world championship as a bodybuilder and he also just got his classic physique card as a natural but he's mentioning how one of his clients was a woman and uh she got a dm and she's like huh okay she took a picture of her feet sent it and then immediately got a five thousand dollar cash app i would totally do that so yeah my a couple of my female employees were telling me about this site where they sell feet pics i'm like i don't want to know what you do on your free time what's the website i was like feet something i forgot what it was i don't really want to text

her on a sunday i'll find it but um yeah it's especially about that it's like an only fans for yeah yeah i was like finder fun with feet oh i don't know yeah view buy and select feet pics yeah andrew andrew go to feet finder.co it's not xxx it's like you're not gonna see any or funwithfeet.com buy and sell feet pics videos and more power project family we talk about eating meat all the time on this podcast pause pause but sometimes you might want to eat some different meat pause you might want to eat duck chicken japanese a5 wagyu you might want to change things up that's why we've partnered with good Life Proteins, which also has certified Piedmontese beef on their website. Now, all you have to do is head to goodlifeproteins.com and you can select build a box with all of the proteins that you want.

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yeah because i was in pretty good shape and i'm like yeah you know i mean for me it didn't matter i was engaged like i'm not really i'm looking at it's just a job and i'm like nah let's pick this before social media do you have a lot of chest hair i didn't know could you grow a lot of chest hair for a little bit. Bro, you'd be good in that community. Oh, the bears? Oh, they'd love you. So, yeah, I think.

And you got those nice blue eyes, too. Yeah. The blue eyes were a killer before I got the wrinkles around. Now I look like Sharpay. I mean, I'm okay with that. I mean, I just got to get my Mike O'Hearn's Botox doctors. I'm just playing. I'm guessing he's all natural.

I didn't ask, i didn't i don't know he's if look man i wish somebody made botox jokes about me i got so many wrinkles man it's like like i look like a giant you're like you have that dick skin i'm like all over it's just wrinkled everywhere man but but yeah i mean it's i i don't know i mean i'd almost rather just work a remedial job i don't know if i want to go down that selling because bodybuilders can make money doing stuff like no matter what you look like i've seen a lot of bodybuilders make some good g4p money i'm like man if he can make that i'll be crushing it i don't know i mean do you have a number like how broke would you have to be like or would you try to do other things i feel like i'd have to have no other opportunities just to be perfectly

honest because i think that like once once you go down that road of and no shame to sex workers who do do that but once you sex workers once you go down that road it's like that you're now associated with that you cannot you can't escape it it's like like you're now associated with that. You can't escape it. It's like Kai. Like Kai. Kai's embraced it, though. He's like, I'm no longer. He makes the grapefruit joe all the time.

As he should. What else are you going to do? Yeah. Like, Mark, what about you? And the whole G for P thing. What would it take? Is there a number? How do you think I got rich?

About the slingshot, I heard you sold a couple of them a few yeah beats selling protein bars like that what idiot would do that but dude you know actually branch chains were my thing that's how i made my first have you guys seen the npc trend i okay npc girl i heard about i don't know what it is okay so there's this there's this girl on tiktok and people on tiktok so they'll type something in the chat and they're live streaming. So people type this and then they'll do like an NPC automatic reaction. This woman is making seven grand per day. What?

Just sitting there saying shit, being an NPC. Yeah, on live. She's making seven grand a day. And she's not even going nude or anything. She's just being an NPC, a non-player character. Oh my goodness seven grand per day why didn't i think of this like i've been working so hard i could have just done that it's crazy but the internet's wild it sounds like a slightly different route it sounds

i mean it's better than the only fans i guess the thing they don't tell you is a lot of girls on only fans make nothing and destroy their lives because of it. Good luck. I mean, the thing is, when you get someone applying for a job, you look at their social media. You almost have to at this point. And, you know, if you Google their name and all of a sudden their OnlyFans pops up, I mean, for me, it wouldn't really...

I don't think it would bother me as an employer. I'm like, whatever. But I think that most big companies would be like, I don't know. I don't think we want that in the workplace better have an alias yeah you use a real name you got to be careful like now like i keep telling our athletes be going back to athletes like you can't go to parties because someone get a picture of you drinking a beer or something and you got a d1 scholarship gone who was that one uh college that guy was one of the number one recruits and he was just rapping and he dropped the n-bomb oh is he a white boy dropped it yeah obviously like that's the one rule wrap

all you want just don't say it don't say it like i don't i don't understand is this her yeah this is her so if you play sound andrew you got to play the sound to understand do i want to yes you you need to it's it's nothing explicit it's too hard blue blue it's me oh thank you baby you got to play the sound to understand. Do I want to? Yes, you need to. It's nothing explicit. It's too hard. Blue, blue, it's me. Oh, thank you, baby. You got me feeling like a queen. Gang, gang.

Gang, gang. Gang, gang. What? So, again, people are typing in the things that she needs to say, the commands, and she's the NPC. So, have you guys played video games where you go up to an NPC and they say the same thing? Yes.

That is what she's doing. Right? So, they say something and then she does the NPC response. That's all she's having big breasts does not hurt it doesn't like they're not gonna watch some rank chick do this like you gotta be hot to do something like this am i wrong i believe yeah you gotta be very correct you gotta be hot like it just is what it is like you can't like an ugly girl couldn't pull that off. She could if she had a great personality. Nobody cares about personality. Some people doing the NPC trend have great personalities and they're doing well.

Okay. Maybe not seven grand a day. Well, but they're doing well. So here's the thing. Like nobody ever walked up to a girl and go, man, I'm just looking at her personality right now. Nah, it's, it's so personalities would keep some said that, but physical, physical is what. But physical is what you get noticed for. It is what it is. Like you can't.

With the internet, it might be different though. Like remember chat rooms? I think that's where it changed. Because remember the IRC chat rooms? I'm old enough for that. You're old enough for that. It was the first like messenger and then AOL as a messenger came out. Changed the game.

Okay. Chat rooms was IRC. it was just a chat room I just remember AOL but I don't remember IRC yeah well you're just a little bit too young for that a little bit, yeah it was when I was in high school and it was like, oh shit yeah that's when cyber sex was a thing, that's where it started in the chat rooms

I was in my teens bro anything worked at that point so like yeah, so it was just like literally like these these chat rooms came on but yeah the internet's gone through some uh some transitions some phases and then you went through the aol instant messenger and now you have you know basically catfishing right now you have does tinder still a thing people still use there's a hundred still still thing yeah so do you think that's given people people are likely, do you think men still pick up women?

Outside? Like in the wild? In the world, in the grass? In the wild. I mean, yeah, some do. But I mean, it's getting because. How'd you meet your girlfriend? I met her here.

Right here? Yeah, yeah. She was training here for a bit. So I met her here. But we did match on Bumble prior, right? So there was that. And then I DM'd her. And then it you're on bumble or you were i was on bumble okay so bumble's like match.com kind of thing bumble okay so there's there's tinder which is the normal swipe but bumble is one where like the girl has to message first so you guys match but you're not

as a guy you can't message as a guy profile she has to message which makes it like if a girl chooses to message you first it's a bit it's like oh shit the doors are open

okay right so so she's taking the risk she did but we did match on Bubble nothing happened there I DM'd her on Instagram

right and then it just blossomed from there so it went down in the DM's went down in the DM's so Instagram I think that okay so it's more of a but you knew but I have seen her we've done stuff together here Right? And then it just blossomed from there. So it went down in the DMs. Went down in the DMs. So Instagram. Instagram. Okay, so it's more of a, but you knew.

But I have seen her. We've done stuff together here. We did shoots together here and stuff. So we kind of knew each other, but we didn't know each other. Same as my wife and I, just in a different era. Yeah. My wife asked me out on AOL Instant Messenger. Wow.

And she was the captain of the cheerleading team. I was the captain of the football team. So we obviously knew each other. We just ran in different packs. What? She captain of the football team. So we obviously knew each other. We just ran in different packs. She ran with the good people. I ran with the bad people. It's like a Disney movie, bro. It is.

It is. Except weirder. No, it was perfectly normal. That was... We were the original... We're the only ones who actually... I don't know if... High school sweethearts like that don't last.

Because you change a lot between 16 and 43. You do. Like, that's a lot of change. Like you're a whole new person. Yeah. A whole new person. I would hope so. Right.

Yeah. I mean, you've been through the same thing 25 years. Like you're not even close to who you were before. I think it's a good thing. Absolutely. That was terrible. Sometimes people will post, you know, if I make a post, I'll say, oh, you changed so much.

I'm always like, thanks. Yes. I appreciate it. You've evolved. Like you'll say, oh, you changed so much. I'm always like, thanks. Yes. I appreciate it. You've evolved. Like you're not the same as you used to be. Thank you. Much appreciated. I used to be poor.

So that's one change I really don't like. I really like actually. Being poor kind of, it's not the end. There's always, you can always get better, right? That's the thing about being poor. But it's not fun. Like being poor sucks.? That's the thing about being poor. But it's not fun. Being poor sucks. That's the thing.

It's like, well, what if I work my ass off to make sure I have money? Get that OnlyFans account going. What do you think is harder, being poor or being rich? Being poor. Being poor by far. See, the thing is, what is... But obtaining the wealth has its difficulty. Obtaining wealth is very hard, and that's why I'm keeping it.

You saw what happened with Bang, right? Jack O'Walk. Yep. What happened? I mean, Monster just bought Bang. Oh, so that's a good thing. Well, not really, because they kicked Jack out of his own company. They went bankrupt first.

And the board they put together after the BK filing was all Monster people. And so they literally kicked Jack out of his own company. Does this mean that we get free bang? I think it does. Because we do get some free Monster. I think it does. I actually love Jack.

It's a win for us. It's a victory. I think it's a win for everybody. I love Jack. I've known Jack since 1999. Jack's eccentric, but all of us are. Everybody who has any level of success is eccentric. But, you know, Jack, when he gets to a certain level, I think Jack's just so aggressive. He grows companies. This is like the third time he's built like a multi-ten plus, maybe hundred plus million dollar company.

And this happened. Can I ask you both a question real quick when it comes to Bang? Because like from what I was saying, it looked like they were super successful. Like every fucking person was drinking Bangs. How did they go bankrupt? Well, lawsuits. So they got in a lawsuit with Monster. And you don't want to sue Monster.

Oh, shit. So the key is make friends with people with a lot of money. Don't make enemies. And you know, Jack is a man of principle. He's a man of, he's a very he's very set in his ways and again i've known this guy for decades and i thought pioneer in a way he's he really created a lot of really cool things i think a lot of cool clenbuterex was the was the main thing that was literally that was the arrest so it was like it was it was a it was or injectable it was an oral syringe and you would put this fat burner and it was like the worst they

taste like was it tastes like shit works like crazy was the tagline and yeah jack what do you say oral injectable or a jack it's an oral injectable like you take um liquid you're not into steroids um like if you were to go online and buy some like liquid peptide or something, it would come with this like a syringe, but it's for your mouth. So you don't need to stab anything? No, no. You just put it in your mouth. It's just like on your tongue. Oh, so just a squirt in your mouth.

Okay. Yeah. So he had Clembuter X. Then he had VPX was crushing it. The zero carb protein, all those things. Redline. He was Redline. The pro hormones, dude. He made was red line the pro hormones dude he

made tens of millions of pro hormones wow and um every time like something bad happens and it's because he's he's such a brilliant man in building brands and in building things and i think i'm very similar i'm just not as volatile so to speak if that's i'm not trying to offend him but like you know certain people are really good at building things and certain people are really good at running things and once a company gets above i speak from experience once company gets above 20 to 50 million dollars it's not a company anymore you're basically just managing you're just it's a management organization so you can't do the cool risque guerrilla things you used to do guerrilla like guerrilla warfare guerrilla

marketing so i think that's where he kind of has his uh his issues so if he would have sold that thing at 100 million he would have been in a really good spot without any of these issues but i'm sure he has some money he's probably yeah he's probably already in a really good spot so he's fine he lost they lost that lawsuit with Monster. So if you guys don't know, basically, so Bang was coming out with awesome drinks, and Monster was like, well, shit, we can do that too. So let's say Bang had Kiwi Strawberry. Monster came out with Strawberry Kiwi with the exact same color scheme and everything.

And so that's crazy that, so then Bang was like, hey, you guys can't do that. And Monster was like, yeah, we can and we bought you. Bang was just starting to make some really weird drinks too. They were trying to get into like I want to say almost like an alcohol type of thing. A spritzer or something. Monster alcohol stuff exists. I haven't

tried it, but someone just told me about it the other day. Red Bull was basically hit at the bars because people would mix it with drinks. So here's the thing about, again, someone with Jack's mind. He's a brilliant man. Like I remember we used to always meet at like 1 a.m. because I was his account rep when I was at Weider. I sold ads to him.

That was how we met. And, I mean, he's a very eccentric individual. We'd meet at this frigging late-night sushi place in Florida. This is like 2001. It's a long time ago. You were just born. I was nine. Yeah. Thanks.

So that's how, again, I think I know Jack as good as anybody but Eric Hillman from Europa. The long time I've known him. Again, I have nothing but respect, but just looking objectively, that's an inventor. That's a guy who needs to build it, get up to a certain level and just, yeah. Yeah. Count your blessings. That's kind of where I'm at. You know,

it's like, I'm good at building brands. I invent things, you know, but you know, running companies worth more, I mean, we'll see, but running companies worth more than 50 to a hundred million, that's not my strength. I'm getting much better at it. Like I'm really getting better at it. I'm learning every day from our partners at Ambrosia Brandless. I'm learning from them every day. But there's just a lot of meetings, a lot of paperwork, a lot of stuff that –

Some of it might not play to things that you really love. No. Who loves – certain people do love it. Yeah. They love the graphs and they love seeing the – Our guy over there, man, man he makes his excel sheets are insane i'm like how do you even build this he's like no we'll put it in the model i'm the model i don't even know how to download it if someone sent it to me that's where i'm at so so that's

that's me that's you'll have to show me in person because i don't know how to operate it i'm old school like andrew i'm like hey can we stop by a vitamin shop i'm just gonna go you know talk them about the bars and make the account happy i I'm an old school, get on the road kind of guy. Like during the pandemic, I visited over 400 stores during 2020. I'm just an old school, make shit happen kind of guy, build it, sell it, build it, sell it, repeat the process, market it, love it. You know, I love everything I've created, but my strength isn't sitting at a board meeting and, and, you know, presenting. Yeah, I i can do it but who loves that like it's not my passion is people my passion is providing stuff that make people happy my i also

like solving problems like people needed something to drink intro workout so i'm like well we need so that's not gatorade you know that's not just carbs That's where we came out with Xtend back in 2004. It was something that filled a need. The outright bar filled a need that I needed, that my family needed. It just happened to sell. I had no idea this was going to sell. Accident, complete accident. So my goal, if you take somebody like me who's about creating and building, and you're like, okay, manage.

I'm like, oh, whoa. It's way out of my wheelhouse. But the reason I love it now is because that's a challenge. Just like bodybuilding for me. Like I'm the oldest guy on stage, 43 years old, going up against these monsters. You know what? This is not a discredit.

When you're on stage, nobody cares. They don't go like, hey, before we judge you, how many hours do you work in a real job? No, they're like, these guys are doing this. They they're literally most a lot of them are like oh that guy's got a wife and kids yeah we're gonna give him uh he gets an extra point yeah exactly no they don't care you're just looking at you you're a piece of meat yeah so you go on that stage and these guys are doing this a lot of them are doing it full time or they might be training some people which you know me i mean the week before the show and this is why it's not i should have dropped out of the new york pro but i wanted to do a pro show

but the week before i had an emergency i was eating chipotle a week out from the show as my i'd literally three times a day because i didn't have time to pack four days in a row i'm on the road and i had an emergency business meeting i got it done i should have dropped the show but you know what the internet would do to me if i did that yeah so i was like fuck it it was like you were shredded but i missed my i totally missed my peak it was my fault no one else's fault so i mean what you learn from these things see if you can bring up some of those pictures you look gnarly well then you can post the posing videos the first pinned one on there i looked by my best but i looked so far off what i should have been i looked so much better two weeks out. And it's just because,

you know, you, you have to give it your all and you know, you have to do what you need to do. But that's tangent from like, what I love about bodybuilding is, you know, I'm the oldest guy and I like going up there and competing against these guys

to do a full time, see where I stand. But that's where I'm learning from business. You can zoom in to see the detail. Cause there's a lot of deep zoom in on the crotch. Yeah, right there, right there in the taint. It gets all weird. Aw, damn it.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, but I mean, I could have done better, but I think I did the best I could, but I can do much better. Some of the pictures that you just posted kind of randomly of like you after a workout and stuff just look insane. Yo. Yeah, it's been, I i mean it's been a really

kind of that dry veiny shit going on yeah it's been and i'm 230 i weigh 25 pounds more than i did on stage and that's why i need to move to the open class even if i'm the smallest guy there i'm giving up so much muscle these guys they're so short they're so amazing too like they're just amazing athletes what have you have you always had good shoulders? Like what have you done to kind of build up your, your back and your shoulders? I think are pretty wild. Honestly, I started training like a bodybuilder. So when I boxed for five years, seven years, I didn't really train for hypertrophy. I would just do strength stuff, power stuff, and just box. And now I'm actually training for hypertrophy, which means I'm doing more eccentric.

I'm doing more controlled reps. Before it was just like, how is me and Mike? Look how, dude, if he can figure out how to nail his conditioning, he has a pro card. Who? Mike. Jared already has one. His quads have literally swallowed his kneecap. The guy on our left here?

Mark's the bald guy. Mike is a tell on the right oh oh my bad yeah jared so yeah jared and mike's they look slightly different um mike's looked really so you don't think he was lean enough no he he was oh he was he missed his peak oh he completely messed up his peak and he knows he did um but he is uh he he looked that picture does not do him justice. He was hard, dry. There were veins that made me look like I have no veins. His legs are crazy. Yeah, Jared's just insane.

That kid's got. His proportions are amazing. Small waist. His freaking quads are swallowing his kneecap. Yeah. So he had to take a couple breaks. Well, I think the video's out next week. Also, look at his calves.

Yeah, look at mine. Mine you just see right through them. Yeah, Jared has those frigging Matarazzo calves, man. Bubbly. Those who don't remember, Matarazzo was a bodybuilder in the 90s and early 2000s. Passed away. Oh, his calves were insane. He was the Boston, right?

Yeah. Yeah, so I mean, it's been a good run. That was two weeks ago at my gym in Ohio. TRT, it's a popular topic. A lot of guys are hopping on it. It's something that we've talked about a lot. And you might think you're a candidate, but how would you know if you haven't got your blood work done and you don't know where your markers are? That's why we've partnered with Merrick Health owned by Derrick for More Plates, More Dates.

And the cool thing about Merrick is you'll get your blood work done and you'll also have a patient care coordinator that can help you analyze your blood work, analyze your testosterone, all these other markers to help you actually figure out if you're someone who needs TRT. Because there could be things that you could be doing nutritionally with supplements or even with your lifestyle that can boost your testosterone to the levels that they should actually be at. Andrew, how can they get their hands on it? Yes, that's over at merichealth.com slash power project and at checkout, enter promo code power project to save 10% off the power project panel, the checkup panel, or any individual lab that you select. Again, that's at merichealth.com slash power project promo code power project at checkout links in the description as well as the podcast show notes. Mark, let me ask you this, dude. How is your like, because like you're holding a lot of muscle,

you're a bit older, you're doing a lot of training and conditioning work for kids. So have you managed to actually also keep very healthy as you're doing all of this? So I did notice my heart rate usually sits at 48. So it got up to, I was wearing an Apple watch. It got up to like 56 because I got heavier and my heart's just working harder.

Okay. So I put the whoop strap back on. So I'm extremely, for those who are like, that's not healthy. I'll put my blood work and my metrics up against anybody. At the end of the day, is bodybuilding healthy at that level? No. But it's all about mitigating risks, right? Like when you play football, you wear a helmet, right?

Okay. It's protecting. You still know it's not good to run head first into somebody, but you're wearing a helmet. I wear a lot of helmets when I bodybuild. If I noticed something is off, if I noticed my heart rate goes up by even two beats per minute, I address it. I see what I can do about it. Maybe I need to increase cardio.

Maybe my zone two cardio is off a little bit. Maybe I need to look into something to natto kinase. If you looked into that, what is that? Natto kinase is from a Japanese food natto. And so it's measured in FUs, which is basically the measurement of how your blood clot things, basically, you know, your, your ability to clot or unclot. Cause a lot of people are dying. Like that's what got Jerry Ward a blood clot. you know um natto canades has benefits on not only hdl ldl but also its ability to prevent blood clots so looking at all these bodybuilders and people and athletes for whatever reason i'm not that guy who's going

to say why i don't know i'm not a freaking i don't want to die of a blood clot and i don't want to die of a heart attack yeah so i'm want to die of a heart attack. Yeah. So I'm carrying a lot of mass. Okay. I'm on testosterone, which does have its effect on enlarging hearts. It does have side effects. Not as great as a lot of people say it is, but there,

there are side effects. So what can we do to mitigate those side effects? At the end of the day, man, I got three kids and I'm rich and I don't want to lose any of them. I've worked too damn hard to die. Okay. Now my family's fine if I die tomorrow.

They'll be sad, but they'll be okay. They'll be taken care of. I've done that. If I die in a plane crash today, I can die knowing that. Okay. They're okay. My number one objective to take care of my family is done.

But I'm damn sure not going to die because of bodybuilding. So that's why what I do is probably healthy. It's definitely healthier than 99% of the population. But what I do is probably healthier than healthy people because I pay more attention to the little things. I'm paying attention to the blood work. I'm paying attention to the calcium scores, to all that

stuff, to getting the scans that I would not do if I was a bodybuilder. So any pre-existing hereditary genetic condition i'm gonna i'm gonna have a great chance of catching yeah so i think more people maybe not as crazy as me but i think more people need to pay attention to their blood work more people need to pay attention to their health their heart their heart rate you know people have crazy heart rates like it's and and i mean look we're 60 in this country. We need to do something about it.

So yeah, when I look at those, like I feel great. And as long as I can move and I can breathe and I dare someone to come and try and hang with me in a legacy class, you know, try and hang with me coaching. Like I'm running with those kids. A lot of the times I'll go do conditioning with them just because like you should not let me i should not beat you that's keeping you healthy though yeah i can tell you're healthy you're able to talk without taking a breath a lot of guys we have on the show that are big bodybuilders like anyway so the healthiest thing is you're like oh my, it's like, frigging Darth Vader. It's, it's, it's. You know, I think bodybuilding is just inherently like having extra weight is unhealthy. So even if you're natural and you're carrying a lot of extra weight, that's not the healthiest spot to be.

I don't know about that. If you're natural and your body is able to just actually pack on that mass like mike o'hearn i mean this is the thing yeah i'm gonna use my like i know i know some guys that are heavier i'm 250 though like my body can carry this mass you're right and i my my cardiovascular works super well everything's good because my body is made to can't handle this much mass you know what i mean there's so because you're natural i think i i do think i will take that back the the fact is that if you're natural and you weigh 230 at my height you're fat because i'm like five seven that's that's absurd like someone someone's like yeah you're just average size i'm like no i'm not like that's not really an insult but yeah the average is 5 7 2 30 jacked it's like okay man i'm cool with that like look man i was happy you know when i was doing all the fasting and stuff i was happy at 205 200 pounds that was fine but like my

objective now is to see how i could do as a bodybuilder because i need that i need competition you still compete oh yeah i competed jujitsu i know that's competing could do as a bodybuilder because I need that. I need competition. You still compete. Oh, yeah. I competed in jujitsu. I know. That's competing. When I didn't bodybuild, I boxed. I need something competitive. How are you? You're done competing and stuff, right? Except for marathons. Yeah, I've been running.

Does that scratch that competitive itch? Like that powerlifting itch that you had or that bodybuilding itch i never really defined myself as being competitive okay i just don't care that much like i could be working out with somebody and i could throw an extra 10 on the side or whatever i never really got into that so i don't do that in lifting but i just need something competitive in life that's not business yeah i am competing and running i mean i'm competing to try to get better so like so like your thing, and I know you didn't do this for social media because I've known you long enough to know that you're not a grifter or else you wouldn't have started running.

Because your base at that time is like, I remember you did a joke once. You're like, I'm just trying to get as many people to unfollow me as possible. Oh, yeah, yeah. Race to zero followers. So I know when you do something, because most people when they do something like – it's usually for followers or because necessity, because your life makes you do it. Like Cali Muscle gets a heart attack. All of a sudden now he's Mr. Heart Health. Eat once a day.

Yeah, OK, great. That's partly because it's necessitated by the fact if he keeps bodybuilding, he's probably going to die. And because he sees a chance. These internet guys, they need something. The Hodge twins went from fitness to conservative. Conservative twins, yeah. So, I mean, that's the internet. But Mark is not that guy.

Or else you wouldn't have started running. I'm not that guy or else I wouldn't have started boxing. I lost as many fans as you did. They're like, what is this shit? Why do I have to watch this? But you could have easily just been like, I'm just going to go in jogs. Instead, you're like, no, I'm going to do a half marathon.

No, I'm going to do this. I'm like, okay. You need to. You have to. You have to see where you stand. You have to see if you can beat your time. So every day you're competing. You're competing. We have no reason to compete. None of us do. Except for that mental itch to compete. You're rich.

I wake up at five and go run at six. That's crazy. You're running like 10 miles a day too. I get a lift and then podcasts and everything. I'm running pretty fucking far usually. That's not normal. You do realize that's completely weird. What I'm saying is I need to compete in something and i don't know

what age i'll be able to say i'm done i'm hanging it up and for bot for me it would be if it wasn't bodybuilding it would be something else it would be competing against those kids like 13 year old you're about to get this dude i will destroy them actually not anymore these kids are good what about your son your son can kick your ass you were so he kind of hurt you the other day thomas got me yeah he's a good wrestler and i don't i don't know how to wrestle i'll punch him but there's laws against that he can box too no but he got me i can picture you guys clearing out like the living room like it's chicken serious you know now we we do have so we have a wrestling mat our girl we converted our garage into a wrestling room and the other garage is literally

a weight room so i have my wife's car gets parked. We have big garages. Anyway, so like, so yeah, we have the wrestling room, but my son, he'll get me and I'll be like, ah, it's weak. Just get off me. That's a joke. I'm like, fuck, that hurt really bad. Yeah. Did I tell you guys?

I think I told about when my daughter. Oh, dude. Yeah. My daughter challenged my son to a wrestling match oh you didn't tell us that she's 17 he's 15 she's the strongest girl

in the state of Tennessee it's on the record books you can look it up right now and she was a regional champ wrestler really? two years ago yeah her only year wrestling

she got regionals dude he beat the shit out of her and so she loses it she's gonna kill me for telling this story we have the film but she won't let me show anybody my wife her and so she loses it she's gonna kill me for telling this story we have the film but she won't let me show anybody my wife has it so she loses it and she just tries to kill him

like so she's i've never seen her like i've never seen her while out like this is a very very well-mannered young lady right and she just starts well i'm gonna kill you i'm gonna fucking kill you and thomas is just laughing because he's a psychopath. And like my wife's looking at me like I did something wrong. Like you sanctioned this. She challenged him. So I'm like, I had to go somewhere. So I'm like dressed kind of like nice, like not nice, nice, but kind of like we're dressed now.

Like I'm not wearing like pajamas. Yeah. And so I'm like, shit, how do I get her off him? So I'm like trying not to hurt her. Just trying to rip. Her hands were like locked in a grip. Finally, I got her to give up. It was most jerry springer white trash moment of my life like he's bleeding because she scratched the shit out of him so she was just mad because she lost to him and that's

when we realized there's a difference in the genders i mean because if there's any girl who could be any dude he's he weighed he's 11 118. She's like a buck 28. Yeah. She had the weight advantage. She has the title. Man, he beat the shit out of her, dude. Like, just playing with it. He went over the table. He did some crazy move.

And I'm like, ah, this is not going to go well. Yeah. She's like, let's keep going. You know, she's competitive because, yeah, it's kind of my kids. She probably has always kicked his ass, right? Every time. But she challenged him. And then puberty happens.

Oh, puberty happened. That kid is just like, he's a beast. He's got that mentality. I'm like, man, when's this kid going to stop being such a... And all of a sudden, overnight, I'm like, this kid's a jerk. Just a jerk. It's unique. Puberty, he's going gonna be a great wrestler next year.

That puberty took him into the next level, man. And my, my 10 year old, he's just, he's just a nice kid who like, he doesn't get, he doesn't have the attitude. Like he won state like in wrestling last year. He's just, just a good kid, but he knows when to turn it on in the ring and he's good. Football season about to start. I have a question for both of you guys real quick.

It's rewinding back to the product stuff you guys were talking about. Mark, you have the Outright Bar, which is an original type of idea and it's actually a very good product. Mark, you have the Steak Shake, all these other things you've made, but they're all very good quality products. There's a lot of people, and the

prime example I have is Prime Energy Drinks because they did really they're doing really well they sponsored the ufc i think they're now sponsors ffc barcelona right but you look at the ingredients and even derrick did an analysis on prime it's a shitty electrolyte drink i did it i did a review i did a review too but primarily because of hype and because of who ksi and logan paul you've got all these kids drinking prime and it, and it makes me wonder like, I guess,

what do you guys think about that? Cause it's quite literally, it is a bad product. Do you want to explain why and how you think stuff like that happens? Well, I mean, it's, it's just the hype.

Kids want to drink it and they made it. Here's the thing though. Beyond that, forget Logan Paul, forget KSI. It tastes good. it tastes great so i mean and nobody knows to look at electrolyte like how many the amounts of them nobody knows what that means but it's literally it doesn't have enough electrolytes to do anything so the reason i did my video on my channel is i was pretty much saying because they had a report that prime like will kill your kids or something

i'm like no this will literally do nothing to anybody there's nothing in here it's flavored pretty much saying, because they had a report that prime, like, we'll kill your kids or something. I'm like, no, this will literally do nothing to anybody. There's nothing in here. It's flavored water with a little bit of coconut powder has coconut water powder. That's its only ingredient. It's coconut water powder and flavor.

That's it. No. So barely any sodium. It's, it's really like, well, you know why? Sodium tastes like shit.

Sodium doesn't taste good. It'll make it taste salty. They literally just flavored something, coconut water powder. Made it sweet. Made it delicious. And coconut water powder tastes delicious. It's coconut water. So you put that, put some flavoring, and you put Logan Paul and KSI,

and they obviously probably don't have the biggest ethical compass when it comes to. They're marketing geniuses. I wouldn't put my name behind that. I mean, but if you told me I had to make a billion dollars, I'd probably consider it very – I think sometimes some of these things happen because, you know, when you try to make – let's just say you're going to try to make a Gatorade and you're going to try to make it way better than – like in your opinion, it's going to be way better than Gatorade. Let's say Mark and I are going to go in on it and we we start talking to some big people about it yeah what ends up happening is by the time we get done with our conversation by the time we talk to these people and we communicate about all the different things that we want to have in it they're like well to

compete with Gatorade you're just going to end up with Gatorade yeah like you're it's gonna the BCAAs and the EAAs and all the different things we wanted to have in there it's going to end up with Gatorade. It's going to, the BCAAs and the EAAs and all the different things we wanted to have in there, it's going to change the flavor profile. Having too much salt in there might make people go to the bathroom or it might have a, they might say, hey, look, we've done research on this and having over 200 milligrams per serving of sodium

is kind of a red flag for some people. They don't like seeing that. They don't want their kids kids to drink it having as much caffeine as you guys are saying maybe it's not a good idea so by the time you get all the way through all that stuff and then never mind shipping it and the size of it and all these different damages yeah it gets to be super complicated and you're like okay well i guess we'll just make the fucking Gatorade then. Well, you know, there's actually a good comparison to it. Built, B-Y-L-T, Joey Firestone's brand. That sounds like a fake name.

No. Joey Firestone is a real man, I think. No, he's my guy. But anyway, so he has built, its main carb source is platinose. It has BCAA, I think. Platinose is a very good carbohydrate. Never heard of it. Cool. Platinose is great. But anyway, so he has built its main carb source is Pilatinos. BCAA, I think. Pilatinos is a very good carbohydrate. Never heard of it. Cool.

Pilatinos is great. It's next level. To next level. And the fact that he had to relaunch it again, he has some names behind it. He's been trying to do this for the last, I think, five years, if not more. Whereas Prime literally skyrocketed it from the beginning. So built tastes great, but it doesn't taste like Prime because he actually had to flavor stuff like branch cheese tastes like shit so he had to flavor this stuff yeah leucine in particular oh god yeah yeah that's that was the main reason extend did what it did

we made branch there was already two products on the market that were similar but they were the two things we did we made it taste good we marketed for intra workout there's ice by extreme formulations and glutamine select which is still out by beverly both of them would take pre and post workout but there was some data on wrestlers and bcaa that were like this makes sense intra yeah and we validated it later with a study of our own but like that's the reason it made it made it good so here's the old built while it's a great product it's going to cost more he's going to have less margin um it's not going to taste as good even if it tastes great because Prime is literally flavoring coconut water. There was a point where it was at a gas station next to my jujitsu school, so I bought a few.

I'm like, ooh, drink Prime. It's fucking good. It was so good. And then I was like, wait up. There's fucking nothing in here. It just tastes great. Before I knew it, my wife had it on auto ship from gnc to our house wow because we we don't carry it at tiger and i'm like okay i like gnc they work with us that's

great but what the fuck is this doing in my house you know i'm like okay and then i had to explain like well if they just want flavored water let's just buy water flavor and let's save all this money on but gatorade's not a bad product for its intended purpose it's fructose and glucose that's exactly what I think it's very similar what Stan recommends people take like when I'm on the road and I take carbs during training because I train really hard and I burn a lot of glucose and I'm I'm a high carb guy right you can't gain I'm not going to gain weight on protein and fat yeah so like I'll literally get a Gatorade and put some Hydroglyph from Ambrosia or some from my branch chains in there and I'll be like, boom, done.

Good. I need carbs. Gatorade for its intended purpose is actually not... People shit on it all the time. Yeah, if you're just sitting around drinking Gatorade at your desk, if you're training your ass off, Gatorade is a damn good product. I'll stand behind Gatorade for its intended purpose.

Not damn good, but it's fine. If you're performing and you're sweating, Gatorade's not a bad thing for I'll stand behind Gatorade for its intended purpose. Not damn good, but it's fine. If you're performing and you're sweating, Gatorade's not a bad thing for you to drink. Electrolytes, fructose, oats, fructose, corn syrup. Yeah, I want fructose. Give me the high shit. I want all the highs. I want all the high fructose. Checked all my insulin.

Suck that up. I mean, let's be real, too. Even though we're shitting on it a little bit, if a kid's drinking that instead of like soda or juice it's better it is better than a high calorie juice better right there's nothing wrong with it there's just not much right with it yeah like it tastes good and it gets kids to hydrate uh-huh and they get to look cool in their instagram i think that's a plus 22. Like it's great. Look, man, I have the Paul brothers. I don't think we give them enough credit for being as prolific as they are.

And not only that, Jake's a damn good boxer. I don't care what anybody says as someone who's boxed, been hit in the face by a lot of people. I don't want to get hit in the face by that man. Like he's a good fighter and he, Oh, he's not fighting real box. He's fighting fighters though.

Like, like he's fighting like, and also last time I checked, the last guy he fought is a real fighter. And oh, he's not fighting real boxers. He's fighting fighters, though. Like, he's fighting. And also, last time I checked, the last guy he fought is a real boxer. Yeah. And he lost by decision. Like, have you ever tried going that many rounds with somebody who is a professional just getting hit in the face? I mean, he's a terrible boxer.

I'm like, as opposed to what? As opposed to, I don't know, a pro boxer? Like, one of the top five? Yeah, Tyson Fury? Okay, yeah, he's terrible. Come on. People do look at him as an influencer, but you got to remember both of those guys were wrestlers. Good wrestlers.

They were good wrestlers. And then they got into video making, but they're still athletes. Wrestlers are – and also like, yeah, I mean, he's – and now he's in the WWE. Logan is. I mean, that's – and that's very athletic. You know, like I see the shit that Sheamus goes WWE. Logan is. I mean, and that's very athletic. You know, like, I see the shit that Sheamus goes through every week,

and I'm like, oh, God. Like, I'm like, don't jump. You're 260. Stop jumping off the top rope, bro. Every time I watch it, I'm like. Yeah. Because it's live, you know? You're like, oh, no.

And then I'm just waiting for him. Like, there's one time, like, he landed pretty. And he was like, oh, I'm fine. I was just selling it. I'm like, okay. Because he got, he took a pretty hard hit. I'm fine i was just selling it okay because he got he took a pretty hard hit i'm like seamus who seamus wwe he's um pull him up he's my training partner when oh okay he's been in wwe for a while 2008 i believe he's all he's been there longest 45 years old crushing it still yeah he pushed it that's the reason my training's been so good i'll

credit my weight gain to him he uh you know i think it would be great if you can point out, Mark, how much training, you know, how serious he is with his training. Because I don't think people know, you know, how much these guys go through. We actually have a couple YouTube videos and a couple shorts on there somewhere. But, yeah, that's his. Yeah, he just he's a big intimidating. I wanted to do that. This lady at the water fountain. And she just took forever at the water fountain.

That's after you had that match that went forever. That mustache. Yeah, he's got the hair, but he shows every... Yeah, that's it is, Jim. I took that picture. How big is he? He's pretty big. He's down to 254.

We think his perfect weight we tried 250 went 260 i think six three six four six three yeah slightly taller than me big man it's a large individual yeah see look at me wearing your elbow sleeve i love it yeah you're welcome always rocking that some vibrams on yeah i i do i do Vibrams sometimes. Fat calf vein in your left foot? Yeah, he's a great guy, but I'm like, but yeah, what they put their bodies through. I mean, he's doing things at 45 that, man, it's just crazy. Is he doing a lot of exercises? I was just going to ask if he's like stretching and doing a lot of other things. So we work in, right now we're in a hypertrophy phase, but the phase before is more GPP, getting them into it,

being able to do different things. Crazy shit like, you know, hurricane push-ups, you know, things like that. That's where you have the bands, earthquake, hurricane, whatever you want to call it. So yeah, we do all that shit. That's his back of his house. So yeah, it's been a good run, but training with. That's his back, back of his house. So yeah, we, um, it's been a, um,

it's been a good run, but training with somebody who's your age, who's also trying to compete at a high level, obviously in a way different sport. I think it just, it, it kind of gave me the push I needed. Training partners are everything. I don't think we give enough credit to the importance of training partners,

getting to that next level. I'll go train on my own when I have to, I'll get it done, but nothing like having someone like that yelling at you to get an extra rep or an extra set or pushing at the next level. I think that's what I was missing in my training before is having a steady, consistent training partner to take it to that next level. And I think that's one reason I'm gaining muscle. I mean, you know, I think a lot, a lot of us go diets, 80%. No, if you look at the best bodybuilders, best athletes of all time,

they're not known for their ability to eat chicken. They're known for their ability to lift heavy-ass weights with high intensity. For a long time. A long time. For time, time, time, time, time. Look at Ronnie. Look at Dorian. Different styles, but what do they have in common?

Intensity. So a lot of it has to do with training. I think most people train like absolute pussies, except for Mark. He gets rhabdo. Neutropics. Every single biohacker and their mother talks about the benefits of lion's mane or alpha GPC, blah, blah, blah. We have this mix of supplement, but no one really tells you how to analyze what you actually should be trying to take or what problems you may have. That's why Andy Triana has made the Nootropics ebook now on our website at powerproject.live. Now, we've had Andy on our podcast multiple times, and he's educated us on so many different things along with Nootropics. But in

this ebook, he goes in depth on how to analyze what your problems may be specifically and how to utilize Nootropics to help fix those issues or to help progress in certain areas. Like if you're wanting to speak better, think faster, communicate better. There are so many things he goes in-depth on in this e-book. And you can get it now on our website at PowerProject.Live. The link's in the description along with the podcast show notes. What about people, like what about how long it takes you to train? Do you like to kind of go through the workout fairly quickly just get like some intense sets and get out of there like go to failure type deal i'm what so i've become one of those where if i can take longer that's why i like having a

partner but like i'm very if you could tell i'm kind of kind of hyperactive so i have trouble just like because i don't want to look at my phone cause that'll take me out of the zone. So I'm just standing there. I'm like, all right, it's time. So I'll try to superset do, um, I call them distraction sets. I don't know if anybody's called him that before. If so, I'm going to steal it. So distraction set would be, for example, um, basically an exercise where I'm not going to go near failure. I'm just doing something that's not going to hinder recovery. That's going to allow me to keep in the focus of the, of the actual workout without checking my phone, but without hindering my movement.

For example, if I'm doing a bench press movement, dumbbell bench press, then maybe I'll super set it with an incline dumbbell curl. Cause not only that, that'll also help to keep your, your, your bicep tendon warm to avoid pec tears,

or at least prevent them keep it warm so i'll do that but for eight reps but i'm talking like 15 pounds just kind of get it going by the time you pick up the weight put it down get the set there's your minute and a half of rest yeah i get back grab a water boom i'm ready to go so i found what's probably hindered me the most in training is my inability to relax my inability to take time between sets so that's where i kind of coined distraction sets and i don't think i've said it anywhere but here except bryce knows i say it all the time it's a distraction he's like what the hell is that i'm like distracting you and

bryce has crazy adhd so for him it's really good to have distraction sets um so yeah so what i'll do is like for example if i'm doing if i'm focusing on, I'm doing belt squat, I'll go and do some, like, calves between sets or something just to get going. Or it can even be something as simple as a pigeon stretch. Like, just get going, get the hips nice and loose, active stretch. So I feel that when I look around the gym and I see people who get results, it's usually people who train really hard. And that's the problem with these, you know, teenagers coming in in their pajama pants and their crocs is that a thing out here too because it definitely is where i'm at why pajama pants just to make sure you don't care that much chill but no i mean

they're they're workouts like you could look so legacy is great we're in the middle of the gym and through our window you can see the main gym and i'll look out there and there could be a 70 people out there, maybe three people are getting a set. The rest are on their phone, they're chatting, they're doing this. But then you'll see that kid who's just in there just destroying it. Or you'll just look behind you at our facility, these kids are going. If you have 60 minutes, you're going for 60 minutes.

When I say going, that doesn't mean like we're not doing CrossFit, guys. Like we're taking rest, but keep moving. Put the phone down. Put the phone down. I'm guilty of it sometimes, but if your life is so crazy hectic that you can't put your phone down for an hour and your world not caving around you, then you've done something wrong with your life. Yeah. Unless you're like a doctor on call or something but you're literally these people are checking their instagram yeah i i i totally agree with you

because that's like the similar thing in terms of what i do when i work out but i would say like i would say power lifters have a good reason to like take breaks and because like if they're doing a a heavy pull or multiple sets of triples in terms of squat when they finish that set of squats maybe they could go do some just like bicep curls but usually they're just like you know fuck it let me just take this three minutes and just be proud to do my next set yeah i think outside of that like yeah more for bodybuilding hypertrophy or even a sport athlete yeah like yeah we never we never just do bench press or box squat we like to do things things like, for example, if I'm doing a deadlift, I'm going to take them straight into a triple bound or a triple jump

or something like that, or maybe an assisted jump where you have the bands and you're doing that forced movement. So we'll always do something in addition to it. The reason I like doing it after deadlift is it kind of mentally correlates pushing force against the ground with actually per forward propulsion via leaping. So I think that's something you can do, but again, it's, it's sports specific men like, or, or goal specific. If I'm going to have to have hypertrophy,

like what's the lecture volume of biceps going to do? Is that going to hurt me? No. But if I'm, if I'm a power lifter, I mean, honestly, they could probably just eat pizza and drink beer between sets. That's what those people do. Now, power lifters, I mean, honestly, they could probably just eat pizza and drink beer between sets. That's what those people do. Now, power lifters, they've changed, though. If you look at power lifters now, they're way different. And I think we got to credit Louie and his team and Laura. Obviously, she was a part of it with what they do.

Because if you look at conjugate, it's more similar than bodybuilding than old school powerlifting. A dynamic day is a high volume bodybuilding day. I don't know if you've done a full dynamic it's a hard it's you're doing bodybuilding stuff like you're doing four sets of eight you're doing some you're doing speed reps eight what is it 10 sets of two sometimes or whatever it is with bench conjugate in my opinion is still if you're a powerlifter that's the one like i think there i think west side did something special with that program. I really do.

It's still my favorite. What is yours? Oh, same. No, I can't even really remember if I've ever done the same workout twice. Yeah. So I like to change things up a lot. Andrew, what you got over there, buddy? I was curious, based off your words and the stuff that you've said online,

you kind of got your ass kicked at the New York Pro. Oh, I got killed. Yeah. And it and it's funny like in conversations a couple times like that we've been talking you're like oh i'm 51 weeks out it's like oh shit like okay so we have a year yeah what are you gonna do different uh coming around this time all the steroids yeah well i'm glad we got that out of the way um honestly i going to train like a bodybuilder and eat like I was you know I'm kind of more last year I was more like Mark like I fasted a lot um because it really helps my irritable bowel syndrome which has been fine nice since the show for summary it's just fine I've um my doctor told me just for those wondering how did you do because I'm gonna get how'd you do that

so I got um I went to a new doctor, did all my checkups because I get my blood work done every September and October. Sometimes in between if I feel just like doing it. But he told me actually to do the opposite. He told me to increase my fiber. So I'm taking 20 grams of psyllium husk, 10 to 20 grams morning and night. And that's pretty much gotten rid of it.

I'm just having firm stool. Nope. But that's what's happening. Everything's great. So same foods except psyllium husk. I'm just adding psyllium husk morning and night. That's it. He just said eat as much fiber as possible.

But during the day, you can't. If you're trying to get all those calories in day, I mean, basically call me Stan Efferding. It's basically chicken or beef and rice. I'm more of a chicken guy, but, you know, whichever one. I think it's honestly, it's about growing. It's about eating enough to grow. I've never given myself the amount of food it takes to grow. And the simple fact that I'm the conditioning we looked at earlier at 230 shows that, you know, that's a huge part of it.

But I'm also training my ass off for hypertrophy. Like, I love powerlifting stuff. Yeah. If you look six months ago, like I'm doing athletic training, I'm doing crazy power movements. I'm doing squats and heavy deadlifts and bench press and stuff like that. I'm basically training as a powerlifter slash athlete. I'm training like my athletes, but I'm not that guy at my age to elicit hypertrophy and not have the risk. I really need to just hunker down, do more isolation movements, do more machines, do better and longer eccentric movements, you know? And I think that's where I've seen the

growth and that could stop. And that's where you have to periodize. That's where you have to undulate, you know, maybe that stops. Maybe I do have to go to a different style or rep scheme for now i'm growing like a freaking 20 year old it's been kind of insane because i didn't expect it i always told people like i'm like what am i gonna bulk for i'm 40 whatever you know i'm like i'm not gonna grow and then i actually started growing and i'm like oh crap this is actually awesome and i mean just talking to people getting different different things of knowledge like again i'll bring up mike israel tell like he's's like, no, I'm going to say he's like, you're not eating enough. I'm eating this. He's like, yeah, eat more. Dude brought me a bowl of cereal like this big. Lucky Charms clusters. They were delicious. I bought like five boxes.

Bodybuilders. So again, like, is that the healthiest way to live? I think, yeah, most of the time I'm eating good food, healthy, whole food. But like for for what we're trying to do you know you have that balancing act so you have to have those calories every time to get in fast carbs it's post-workout so i get it i get it but it's it's been different and i think i'm gonna do really well and i also have to take the last eight weeks off and not travel that's where I totally just silly me for working. Right. But, you know, I can't be good at both at the same time. So I already told my companies like, hey, from what is it like beginning of June to July 20th?

Yeah. I'm not traveling. They're like, that's a year from now. I'm like, yeah, I know. Everyone know in advance. That's great. Yeah. Because I started, I think, 60 weeks out is when i started i picked out the show i wanted chicago you know i won a pro

card and i the only the best video i have is my family in our you know in our loft celebrating without me and i'm there with you know my business partner sean jose raymond and matt stevens i'm like yeah i want my family there in case i do something good this time. Like that kind of, it was cool seeing the video, but it would have been really nice to have my kids. My daughter came with me to New York Pro, which was the best thing ever. Yeah. Yeah, and so, yeah, I would love my family to be there. And Chicago's a driving distance from where we live,

and it's where we used to live. So I have a lot of friends and people I used to hang with there, so I think it'll be a good time. But I love the sport, bodybuilding. If you're ever backstage at a pro show narcissistic this no no these guys are the nicest people you will ever meet in your life i don't know if you've seen him kareth bajo k-e-r-r-i-t-h he won the new york pro dude's the nicest guy nicest guy i mean he was like he was like you know i'm old but he's like helping me like i've he's like hey man you you know i'm old but he's like helping me

like i've he's like hey man you fix your oil your oil's fucked up like it's like okay you know he was just everybody's nice like every bodybuilder gets along backstage yeah like it was crazy in such competitive environment everybody's helping each other yeah he's a fucking monster how old is he wow i think he's in his mid-30s if i'm not mistaken oh okay i thought he'd be in his 40s it's geez yeah that's what i'm fucking going up against whoa i'm losing every department he won the new york pro yeah he won it now it means he has his olympia qualification right yep he'll be there and he'll do well i pick he'll i think he'll actually crack top five this year if not top three he's just such a good dude, too.

Such a good dude. But, I mean, you know, you're backstage, and everybody's like, everybody we kept in contact a lot of them afterwards. And when me being around was really crazy, I forgot we got like third place in the open. This guy's like, yeah, man, I started bodybuilding because I was watching your channel. I'm like, Jesus Christ, how old am I?

And people come up to me. I don't know if you still get this, Mark. People are like, man, I haven't watched you since junior high. They're like, 40. You're like, gosh, I've been doing this too long, man. No, I mean, bodybuilding is, I think if you actually were back, everybody should be backstage at a pro bodybuilding show, just see how they interact.

It's not, amateurs are weird. Amateurs, you get narcissists and weirdos. But like, dude, the the pro show it was like everybody had this respect there's a mutual because like everybody was being everybody was being nice it was like i just want to hang out back here and not have to do this competing shit like these people are awesome like that level of respect and maturity and it's just even though i got killed like that experience and then my daughter was there and everybody was so nice. Like they were so nice to her.

Like, oh, Kami, I've seen your lifting videos. She's like, oh my God. I'm like, oh, this is great. Like to have that experience with my daughter, like we hung out for, you know, three, four days. Like she was there like at the gym the day before, like, okay, work on your side chest. I'm like, this is cool. My 17 year old daughter is getting me ready for a show.

I think that's the best experience. And I'd love to have that experience with my other kids there and my wife. I mean, that'd be good. I mean, it was cool to get a pro card, but I was almost like, I wish I would have missed it. So they could have come and joined it. There's a lot of cool shit you can experience in life. But I think one of the coolest is to do really cool shit with your family. You know, we just went on a vacation and my kids are, my son is 19. My daughter's 15. Yeah. It was just a lot of fun. We just did a cruise too.

It was like, it's different. I think I, I wish I, I wish I would, would have taken in more as a younger father because now I'm old enough. Chris Gethin, you know know chris he says mileage without knowledge is bullshit or knowledge without knowledge without mileage is bullshit so basically if you know something until you've actually experienced it it's bullshit so i think that as i get older i appreciate these moments more i'm really really kind of absorbing them really taking them in and when i was younger i just kind of was there, but now I'm like stopping, I'm smelling

the roses, you know, I'm like, this is hold on. And like Dick, even like these bug bites, right? Like we cleaned up my daughter's soccer field. We do that before every year, yesterday morning. And so, you know, my job for the last four years has been cutting down the trees so they can weed whack behind the fence. Cause we have this, you know, it's, it's freaking rape yeah there it is and um i'm just the whole time like i'm back there with tears in my eyes because i'm like this is my last year doing this for my daughter's

soccer is her senior season the last dance yeah so for me it's really like why is that maintenance guy where they're crying so bad that's the most jacked maintenance guy ever, bro. No, but it was, it's just, it's, I mean, you know what it's like. Your kids are growing up. And then what are you going to do? Like you're going to be empty nest. Yeah, right. Three years, right?

I don't know. Travel a lot probably. Yeah. What am I going to do? Am I like, what's going to happen? Like, that's why I need to coach. I don't think, I wish I had more kids. I don't know if you're at that level, but I'm like, man, I could have got, I could have had like five.

I think out of five would have been good. You have three. Three. Okay. Yeah, not quite an entire basketball team. They're too short offensive line, obviously. But, yeah, I wish I had more kids. I do.

My wife was done after three. And I was done, too, but now I'm like, dude, what am I going to do? Preston's got like seven years, and then what? Well, you have your coaching, bro. Your athletes are like your kids in a way. They are. They really are because you see them develop. You have this sense of pride and you're like, man, this is –

watch them on the field too. It's almost like watching your own child. It's got to be hard to travel with them being so involved in sports, right? My kids. I'm home for the games. So this is pretty much – No, I just meant like you traveling as a family. Yeah, that's why we – Make sure everyone's shit lines up. I'm home for the games. So this is pretty much. No, I just meant like you traveling as a family. Yeah.

Make sure everyone's shit lines up. We had to. That's why we got that last one for Kami's last year, that cruise in. It was great. And then she went next week right back into soccer. Thomas went off to his wrestling camp. And now it's just hunkered down and football season starts. Wrestling starts.

Wrestling never stops. And yeah, Kami's last year in soccer. She's not going to play in college. So just decided to focus on her brands. She has this new brand for youth female athletes called Lacuna Nutrition. Product's called Omnia. So it basically addresses what female athletes are deficient in. 10 vitamins and minerals in a drink.

Because young female athletes don't like taking pills. So yeah, she presented that to me and PowerPoint and everything. I'm like, all right, young female athletes don't like taking pills. So yeah, she presented that to me and PowerPoint and everything. I'm like, all right, you can do it. Let's go. So I invested in it. So yeah, so she's just interested in- Is there a website? If you go to, so actually, did we put that?

So it's definitely tigerfitness.com. You could go to Lacuna Nutrition or she has an Instagram as well. L-A-K-U-N-A? L-A-C. L-A-C-U-N-A. Lacuna Nutrition. Or she has an Instagram as well. L-A-K-U-N-A? L-A-C. L-A-C-U-N-A. Lacuna Nutrition. Does Lacuna mean anything? Lacuna.

So Lacuna means, I think, the best. There's Latin for something. Okay. And Omnia means, like, everything. So she came up with everything. It's a good look. She did the look. I just had someone kind of put it into label form.

Yeah, there it is. Oh, nice. Ooh. So it's a powder. it's all natural too no artificial sweeteners or flavors yeah she's um she's uh she's just got her head on straight man that was her concept her idea but yeah she's working on that she just wants to graduate and she loves coaching she's the youngest exos coach ever got at 14 years old spent a week in california to get that wow she's just coaching she's the youngest exos coach ever got at 14 years old spent a week in california to get that wow she's just got she's got everything going for her so i mean watching her it's kind of i i still i'm still holding out hope that she accepts some offer to go play college ball so it's so fun watching her play yeah but i mean she's got her state championship ring from

her freshman year and i don't know i just think club sports kind of drove the love for the game out of her it's a business they're not they don't care about your kids club sports club sports club soccer there are some good clubs um but most of them yeah it's not the best so was it because i played club soccer was it the traveling aspect of club soccer so the the club we're at is they actually have potential to be a really good club. They just had really poor leadership. And, you know, it trickles down. Like if Mark's a jerk, your company's probably not going to do its best, right?

So it trickles down. They had the wrong person in charge. And it pretty much just destroyed Kami's experience. Gotcha. And I'm not sure if that, she says that's not the reason, but yeah, but the guy's like, there's lawyers involved, like, he's just really not

a good person who was running the club. But again, like, it could have happened anyway. I'm not blaming it on that. Like, she had a good run. She got her ring. Yeah. And I just hope she has an opportunity. If she does get the itch to do it again, I really want her to do it again but again if it's not

in her heart I'm not going to be like you have to play and at the end of the day she's 18 next year she can tell me where to go I really have no say my wife's like she can't do this in about a couple months she kind of can so we got to kind of get used to letting her make her own decisions

it's just difficult when you get to that age and you're like, oh my God, my kids are adults. Now what? How's college? Is he already in college? My son, no. He's just, he's just chilling at the house. But my wife will, I don't know, like tell him what to do kind of thing.

And I'm like, well, we can't. Yeah. You know, I mean, there are certain things we can tell him to do because he still lives under our roof. Yes. That's kind of thing and i'm like well we can't yeah you know i mean there are certain things we can tell him to do because he still lives under our roof yes that's kind of an agreement we have but certain other things i'm like oh you gotta just kind of like let him do his shit yeah exactly it's like kerf she's never been one to stay out because she has to get up and do things and train and she's always training has pretty much made my kids all pretty good because they don't do anything stupid because they know it's going to mess up their workouts it's great i'm like i

didn't even tell them to do that like i didn't tell my kids to play sports that was on them they're like dad can i train i'm like yeah let's go so i mean that's the thing is that you don't force your kids to do it for me it was just hey monkey see monkey do like the kids saw this how we live our life this is normal i remember the first time my son he's like can you believe those guys don't shave their bodies i'm like son actually i'm the weird one here you know they have no idea they don't they don't know they just know what you show them in the house that's why if you're in a loving house you didn't force them to train but you force them to shave those hairy savages. Luckily for me, well, my son is 15, so I don't think he's at that body hair level yet.

And my daughter, I'm hoping she shaves. I'm like, I don't need to have that one girl with armpits. I mean, that would be awkward. Don't want that. Could be, for sure. for sure alright thanks for your time I really appreciate it that's been great man thank you

where can people grab these outright bars and maybe find out more about you well I mean you could always go to tigerfitness.com or we're at every single vitamin shop

across the United States there's no excuse not to get one everybody has a vitamin shop within 10 minutes of their house now birthday cake is new right birthday cake is brand new

that's crushing it and yeah it's good to be there. And you can find me at Mark Lobliner on Instagram and Twitter. My Twitter's not weird now. It's all sports. So don't have to worry about any opinion that'll piss you off. About four months ago, I was like, no more.

That was like six months ago. I'm like, I'm done. These people are dumb. You finally are done. Oh, I'm done. Oh, trust me. Dude, I don't even care what's going on. I don't care. Whatever. Anyway. So,

at Mark Lowe Blender, um, youtube.com slash tiger fitness. And, uh, yeah, it's pretty much it. Strength is never a weakness.

Weakness is never a strength. Catch you guys later. Bye.