Mark Bell's Power Project - People Were Asked If Fat SHAMING WORKS Better Than Fat ACCEPTANCE… || MBPP Ep. 948

Episode Date: June 20, 2023

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I think some shame can go a long way. Is there anything that we just shouldn't shame people for? Being bald and being short? To get that great cassette surgery. Is it okay to be fat? Everyone's entitled to kind of live their life whatever way they want. Obesity is a really tough thing

and it's a very hard thing and very difficult thing to try to figure out, but I think shaming someone that's obese is not helpful. But if you're 15 years old and you're 300 pounds, you have a different life than if you're 15 years old and you're 170 pounds and you're 6'2". Many people, they love themselves a lot and they're fat or overweight. What's fat on this earth? People and their pets.

People are really lean in a lot of the fitness culture that you see and a lot of the movies that you see. So I do think there's a little bit of shaming going on. I think it's working to some extent. Yeah, you can be fat, but are you going to be discriminated against? I think, fuck yeah, you are. Hi, Project Family. Welcome to the podcast. We are 900 plus episodes deep. We're bringing tons of different experts in fitness, health, nutrition, and business. And we thank you all for your support. And we're also glad to be bringing these individuals to you. Now, if you've enjoyed this podcast and it's brought benefit to your life, we'd really appreciate it if you left a five-star review on Spotify or Apple,

as that helps the podcast grow and thrive, and we can continue bringing you amazing content. Thank you for your support and enjoy the episode. Fat shaming. What do you guys think about it? episode fat shaming what do you guys think about it i think some shame can go a long way i think sometimes with somebody stinking i should know my name is smelly might might uh encourage you to go into the shower a little bit more and actually use the soap not just rinse with some water do we think there's okay let me ask you this then is there anything that is what we just shouldn't shame people for you know i know the context of who you're shaming family whatever but are there things that are just like off limits well it's a it's a tough conversation because uh get shamed for everything being bald being short being you know this being that

but uh i would say being bald and being short are like in a category where you don't really have any choice at all i don't think i don't believe but maybe you do i don't know maybe some sort of research will show that you do have control over that but i don't i don't think you do could get that greg to set surgery he's real tall coach greg where you at bro yeah he got a he got his height increased okay no no he i think he's three now yeah yeah he's looking down on us next time we see him damn oh my god it's a monster that was good yeah uh well this video i think is really interesting uh we haven't watched it but i think there's this guy he's going around asking people

um about fat shaming and fat acceptance so So let's get into it. Yeah, check it out. Do you think fat shaming works? I think so. Yes, because they start thinking that it is okay. I'm a fat bitch. I'm just going to keep eating. You can't tell me what to do. Would you want to be fat?

Would I want to have more meat on my bones? Yeah, I'm flat everywhere. Am I too much? Go find less. Today I am asking, is it okay to be fat? Yes, it's okay. It's common. It's regular, normal. Yes, I mean, look at me.

Okay, so let's quickly, like, what do you guys think? That question, it's a very general question, but is it okay to be fat? Yeah, I would say so. I think everyone's entitled to kind of live their life whatever way they want. Yeah. Okay. It is okay. You can do whatever you want if you want to be

i can't change the fact i'm bald um it's okay to be bald it's okay to be fat uh the only thing that i guess we start to think about is how is your is your personal quality of life okay for you and if it is that's fine yeah i think you start to worry about people's health, I guess, to some concern. And then there's also like with such things that happened more recently, the healthy people kind of being having to surrender to people that aren't as healthy. Oh, what do you mean by that? Through the pandemic, you know, through that process. And there's definitely strain on like our medical system and all these things, mainly from people just overeating. I know there's genetic things behind certain things and I know that there should be sensitivity towards certain things. I don't think everyone needs to be skinny, but maybe we should continue to do our best to educate people and to give people options so that they don't end up obese. Cause I think obesity is a really tough thing and it's a very hard thing

and very difficult thing to try to figure out. But I think shaming someone that's obese is not helpful. Like once you shame someone that, that, uh, already got to that point, I don't think that's helpful. Yeah. I think that, think that uh if you if a parent or somebody explains to their child or someone explains to their friend hey like i think we should look at some other options we should maybe as a parent it'd be really difficult but if you do it young enough then no one then your kid doesn't even your kid's not even old enough to understand and you just start making adjustments because you're like, wow, that one, our one son, he's starting to get really heavy compared to the other kids.

Well, let's maybe change up some of the food and change up some of the diet. So I think education and stuff like that, I think that shaming can be helpful though, because it can help people to kind of fall in line with, for some people that haven't gotten to that point yet yeah and being fat does matter so you can do whatever you want but if you're 15 years old and you're 300 pounds you have a different life than if you're 15 years old and you're 170 pounds and you're six two it's just different it's just different. I don't think anyone could argue that. I'm a fat b****. I don't think it's really okay to be fat because it's a lack of self-love.

I just love myself. And people love me because I love myself. I'd rather people love themselves, go to the gym, take care of themselves. A few kilos more or less. Okay, that statement. He believes being fat is a lack of self-love. That is a tough one. That's a tough brush to, like, stroke on everybody that might be fat or overweight.

Because many people, like, they love themselves a lot. And they're fat or overweight, right? Are they in denial or do they really, really believe that? Well, this is the thing to think about. Not like, for example, our lifestyles, like we work out all the time. We enjoy that. We enjoy our activity levels. That brings us joy and happiness. For some people, exercise and maybe that type of stuff isn't a big part of what brings them joy in life. Maybe what brings them joy in life. Maybe what brings them joy in life is hanging out with their friends and maybe while hanging out with their friends, they do things together. They eat.

They have fun. Maybe that is joy for them, right? Maybe that is self-love for them. Is it the best for your health? Sometimes it's not. But that's a big one. Sometimes people are even blind to certain things. Like you might not even ever really thought about it.

You might be overweight, but you just never – you didn't really explore exercise, so you have no idea what it feels like. Maybe you have and maybe it kind of like sucked, but you didn't do it long enough for it to start to feel good. So I think there's like so many factors in there. for it to start to feel good. So I think there's like so many factors in there. I do think that when, uh, when somebody gets really heavy, like really heavy, when someone starts to be obese, I think a lot of times there can be mental health issues in there somewhere as well. So I think that's something to be sensitive towards and sensitive to, because there are people that are bipolar. There are people that have, they have, they have, um, I guess mental health disorders to some extent. I'm not trying to make excuses or blanket excuses

for people, but there are people just, they're born different. We don't know why exactly they're born different, but they're born a little bit different. And I think it's kind of great that we have a lot of different people. Um, But a lot of people that are heavy, a lot of times you'll see trauma with people that are really heavy. Most of the people, so far, and anybody they've talked to on this video that we're watching,

there's not a single fat person really in here that I've seen. She's self-proclaimed. This lady has some boobs and, you know, she doesn't look fat to me. I'm sorry, I'm getting thirsty. But, you know, I guess I fat to me i'm sorry i'm getting thirsty but you know i guess i think to each their own i think once we start judging each other because like self-love you could also be like man that guy doesn't have a together why doesn't he

care you know his rent's overdue like the guy's got no money he's always broke his car's piece of like you can start to judge people for all kinds of stuff you can get nitpicky and and it's like that's a i think that's an ugly place to live yes and try to maybe stay a little bit more in your own lane and if someone asks you a question that's when you can start to say oh i'm glad you asked i can teach you how to make more money it's actually there's a skill set involved and let's figure out what you're good at let's figure out what you enjoy and let's figure out what you're good at. Let's figure out what you enjoy and let's find the intersection of those two things and monetize it. Kaboom.

It will not change me. It has a lot of problems being fat because it is not healthy or good looking. I think it's okay to be fat, but I wouldn't date a fat person, I think. Is it okay to be fat? Of course. You hesitate a little.

Well, because I don't think asking is it okay to be fat is a correct question to ask. Is it even offensive to say fat person or like big bone person? That they're comfortable in their body. I know we're pausing so much. That's okay. This is great. This is the funny thing.

I'm Nigerian. People like my family members, people in my community, when I was growing up, if they saw an overweight kid, they would just say, hey, like what's going on? Why are you fat? It's like, there's no beating around the bush, partially because like within the language, even the communicative aspect of a lot of dialects in Nigeria are very direct. So, you know, when you see somebody that is overweight or somebody that is unhealthy, you just say, why are you like this? Let's change this. What are you doing? Whereas in America, it's, there's a, and for good reason, like I think in America, we pay much more attention to people's mental health here than we do in something like Nigeria and other places. But with

that, there does seem to be some coddling of feelings. And there should be. We need to handle these situations individual by individual. But it seems like here you can't just say that directly. You know what I mean? Even if it's someone in your family, you're more careful than my family would be. Yeah. Within different communities, it's going to be way different. It does seem to work in other cultures. Like less people in those cultures are fat, right? We have a huge issue with it here in the United States. I do find it interesting that a lot of the young people that I've been around in the last couple of years I've noticed have shifted towards like lifting weights and losing weight.

There was a couple of young guys in here the other day that were probably like late teen, early twenties. They were all getting after it. They're all training hard in there. And then my son, Jake and Owen Wyatt, like all these guys are kind of into like, let me, let me take control of this. Let me, so I wonder if, uh, I wonder if 20 years from now, 30 years from now, as those guys are older, as those guys have children, if they'll pass along to their kids. Because I think it's the greatest thing that you can pass along is some sort of fitness hygiene and some sort of nutritional hygiene that people refer to frequently. Because I think that can be really helpful to help get us away from people being excessively heavy. Then they're comfortable in their body. Anything that's going to hamper your arteries or anything like that?

No, it's not good. I think it's not okay. It's not healthy at all. According to my doctor, I'm fat. But if you look at the size of my legs. You got mailman calves. Yeah. Fat is such a generic statement.

It's hard to say yes or no. I grew up in West Virginia, which happens to be the fattest state. Were you ever fat? The biggest I've ever been. I got up to 243. I woke up in the mirror, looked at myself at 243. Bubbly. My hips hurt.

My knees hurt. My ankles hurt. Can you pause? You know, I think something that's really interesting and something to think about, you know, when a question like this comes up, like what's fat? Who's fat? Like what's fat on this earth people and their pets are the only two things that are fat you don't see a fat elephant even though an elephant might have a lot of fat it's not fat in comparison to the other elephants the whale a monkey a chimp anything a wolf you know. Anything that we fuck with is fat, like even cows.

We fatten them bitches up. That's right. Pigs. We're not necessarily designed all that well to hold a lot of extra weight. And as this guy is pointing out, he looked at himself in the mirror and just was like, whoa, I have a lot of extra on me. I need to get rid of some of this weight. And I think with some of the younger guys today, I think they are maybe getting shamed.

I think there is, you know, like there's such a big fitness culture on TikTok and Instagram. I do think it's you're seeing more and more movie stars like lifting and being shredded and being in really good shape we didn't really see that when i was a kid they had stuff like that there was like wwe and there was but like hulk hogan and those people they had a different look than what you see today like people are really uh are really lean in a lot of the a lot of the fitness culture that you see in a lot of the movies that you see So I do think there's a little bit of shaming going on. And I'm curious as to whether I think it's working to some extent because I think a lot of the younger kids are influenced by it.

And as that one guy pointed out, that was such great honesty by that guy. He was like, I wouldn't date a fat person. I was like, whoa, that's pretty – but that's keeping it real though. I think a lot of people feel that way. So yeah, you can be fat, but are you going to be discriminated against? I think, fuck yeah, you are. I think that's what's going to happen. You will be depending on your size.

Like if you're obese, it's going to make it harder to get a job. It's going to make everything that you do, it's going to make it harder. I'm not saying that you can't be that way. You can be whatever way you want to be, but it's just going to make your life that much tougher. And whatever way you can figure out a way to try to avoid it would be great. I'm not sure what that woman is in the video. She's foreign.

Maybe she's French or something, but she was like, it's not attractive or I don't find it attractive. That other guy says, I wouldn't date a fat person. The thing to think about here is like, if you're someone who is fat or overweight and you're listening, you know, just because you're fat doesn't mean you're not worthy of love, but that does like, if you, if you're single and you are looking for somebody, your, I guess your prospects are a bit thinner. I wasn't even trying to go for that, but like you're, you're thinning down your prospects because there are many people who just don't find that attractive. That doesn't mean you're worthy of love, but that means that it is harder

for you. Right? So that's, and that's just a real thing to say. It may sound mean, it may sound insensitive. And there are people that don't mind. There are people that would totally just like be attracted to that. But there are many people who aren't attracted to that because, and just if you're fat, it doesn't mean you're lazy. It doesn't, you shouldn't be assigning, you know,

you shouldn't be assigning traits to someone because of the way they look. Just like for black people, you know, back in the day in the media, when they were being depicted as drug dealers and fucking thieves, et cetera, when many people would look at a black guy or someone, they'd think automatically, oh, you're a less intelligent.

I'm still going to the other side of the street. Hey, you know what? I don't blame the woman who clutches her purse and moves to the other side of the street because I'm a 6'2 big motherfucker. She doesn't know me. I get it. But at the same time, you know, you shouldn't be assigning that to somebody. But it's inevitable that you will because, you know, it's just the way things are.

So that's something you kind of got to deal with. Yeah. And for guys, I forgot who we had on the podcast, but, you know, we were talking about like the percentage of men that are overweight and the percentage of men that are obese. We'll just say it's 50 percent of all men. percentage of men that are obese. We'll just say it's 50% of all men. Like if you're just not overweight, you cut out half of the male population and you've raised your value, right? So just as shallow as it may appear, it's just the truth that, you know, if you are just not overweight, not even jacked, just not overweight, then you are physically already in better shape than half of the dudes that are out there also trying to nail down a woman. Nail one down.

Good. Nail her down. Say that in Spanish. Pin down a... That's too aggressive. Actually, I can't say it in Spanish. Anyway. That moment there, I was like, this is not good.

I don't like it. It's not for me. But if it's for you, I think you should should get after it whether it be through fat mannequins or plus size models the fat acceptance movement has advocated for body positivity for all shapes and sizes women of all shapes and sizes do exist and it's important that you see yourself represented big girl summer has officially begun but with America's high obesity rates, we must question the importance of acceptance versus its consequences. But is it just easy for me? You guys do notice, though, that there is a double standard when it comes to fat acceptance. Like, you will see a lot of bigger women that are, like, bigger women put in these sexualized somewhat positions.

But you'll never see, like, a bigger guy put as like a sex symbol in that way. But you'll see it's like a very confident big woman in that way. And it's like this thing, if you're fat, that doesn't mean you cannot be confident and love yourself. But we're not seeing that on the guy's side of things. Yeah. I think it's a little bit like an overcorrection, you know, because I think for years, for years maybe you know men could have a little pot belly going guys could get gain some weight they could get a dad bod you hear that that term thrown around um burt kreischer you see with his shirt off everywhere and he's not getting any skinnier at the moment the uh and but you see most of the like acceptance stuff, it does seem to be shared a lot more from females.

And that's probably just so people can feel more comfortable. friendlier approach to get you to encourage you to to move and to exercise and to work on your nutrition is probably a better answer than somebody just you know coming up to you saying you're fat and this is gross and you gotta you better make changes or you're gonna die i don't think that works like i don't think that's i don't think that's helpful but having a society that uh does put some shame on stuff it does prevent people from like fucking each other in the park randomly like you just you're not going to see you're not going to see that why don't you see that because that's frowned upon because it's it's how did we get there well would you be if you just walked out of here naked like you'd be shamed like there would be

right there's uh yeah yeah it's it's illegal you know for one thing but it's like or just you know randomly like pissing somewhere like you just there's certain things you can't take a shit on the sidewalk in san francisco you can't oh yeah well i'm gonna go there downtown sacramento it kind of happens often let's take a trip to la real quick there are there. There are, obviously, there's, like, laws, but you also just wouldn't do something because it's, like, crass and it's just, like, it's gross. And you're going to be shamed.

People are going to be like, dude, are you serious? Just throwing garbage on the side of the road. You know, you're walking with your friends. You finish your bottle. You just throw it over your head. Your friends would be like, dude, what are you doing? You're just going to throw that wherever? Like, like you're gonna be shamed for that yeah so don't fuck people in the park anymore sorry man i mean i know it's a nice setting and all but it can be romantic you to say because i've played sports my whole life and more importantly

isn't acceptance the first step to self-improvement guess we don't see can you be healthy and obese that's tough you know you know you can be healthy and can you be healthy and obese what does it mean to be healthy what does it mean to be obese well a lot of times they say morbidly obese. So that would imply that you're out of the category of being healthy, I would assume. There's a snippet and we have our friend Russell who trains here. We've talked about it on multiple podcasts.

But he's mentioned and he pointed out that when you're younger and you're obese, things, you don't feel things as much, your blood work would come back well, your body doesn't feel as beat up. But as you get older and your joints are having to deal with the amount of weight you're carrying around, things just start to degrade. And people always talk about as you get older, even in fit people, there's sarcopenia, which is the loss of muscle. There'so whatever which is a little bit of loss of bone density well you can you can counteract those things by exercising by taking care of yourself you don't have to age that way but when you're obese things tend to degrade faster so this guy's a dead ringer for joe sullivan by the way joe josh joe sullivan oh oh my goodness i thought he was about to say josh kim oh the guy interviewing because no he i mean i was a derby hat there he is a dead ringer for joe sullivan but we

our homie josh kim and this should not be taken in any type of but it is way i know some someone's gonna be like you know but we have we have our homie josh kim who looks like the interviewer um and that's just because they look similar, not just because they're Asian. Don't go there with that. That's not where I was going. Okay. So real quickly, switch it back. Was it Russell that said the reason why you don't hear about, like, obese people in their elder age is because they all died?

Was it him that said or was that somebody else? Yeah. It might have been Russell. But, yeah, I mean, you don't really, when somebody is obese, I think it's going to be harder to make it to be 65 and 70 years old. Um, it's just going to be tougher. It's just going to, again, uh, being excessively overweight for long periods of time, it's just going to make everything harder. It's going to make your relationships tougher. It's going to make getting a job tougher. It's going to make maintaining your health a lot tougher.

I don't think that you can be obese and be healthy. I think that you could be obese for a little while and be healthy. I think eventually it's probably going to catch up to you. Still be bigger. These big wrestlers in Japan, I forgot their name. Oh, sumo wrestlers. Yeah, exactly. I feel like they're strong. Like, I play volleyball, I play soccer, I was a competitive cheerleader.

So I think it all just kind of, it all encompasses what you're able to do. I'm not a doctor, right? I probably wouldn't want to answer that at all. Let me ask you this then, like, what does it mean to be healthy? Well, mental health is very important, and also physical health, of course. I don't think anyone's purely healthy. You're able to have healthy tendencies. I have a brother who was a track athlete who was an alcoholic.

So I think it just depends on the tendencies you choose to focus on. What about? That's really interesting. Like he doesn't believe that anyone's like completely healthy. I would say I would agree with that. Like that's pretty amazing. There's probably some sort of stupid habit that we all have or some sort of thing that we're not even aware of that's not particularly healthy yeah is it healthy to be sore all the time is it healthy to be so concerned about it oh gosh you know what i mean

i get what you're saying i wanted to know isn't health more than just the weight on the scale health isn't just about physical appearance right there's There's also things like mental, spiritual health. Do you think you can just say that just because you're fat, you're not healthy? If you're fat, emotionally you won't be good, you know? Because you feel bad, your clothes doesn't fit, it is horrible. Were you ever fat, like, in any time of your life? Like, six months ago, I was fat. What does that mean?

I got cancer and I was on a medicine, hormone therapy. Even cancer is a health problem because of weight, you know? Now let's dig further and see what the other side would say. America has a really big push for body positivity and fat acceptance. It's okay to be fat. It's healthy to be fat. I don't support that. Why?

I think it's okay to accept your body, but if it's like health concerning, going on the internet and saying, I'm so happy with myself i'm sorry i don't believe you i don't remember andrew when you mentioned like is are people fooling themselves i think those clips and if you're listening you weren't able to see that but those snippets that he showed there like those like honestly 500 600 type pound people celebrating it i think there there is a fool in yourself when it does come

to that because there's honestly i and i've never been in those shoes but i can i cannot see how in any way that that is that that is good or that it's beneficial for any individual uh have any of you guys seen the movie i think it's called the whale have you guys seen that movie no it's not it's not called the whale because the guy's obese it's it's called The Whale. Have you guys seen that movie? No. It's not called The Whale because the guy is obese. It's called The Whale because the guy is an English teacher and he has kids read Moby Dick or whatever. Anyway, it's with Brandon Fraser. And I think there's a lot of things that surround obesity that is not really talked about but is shown in this movie um the guy's like he's he's um he's just very unhealthy i mean he tries to get up he gets out of breath

he stays on his couch like he specifically sets everything up so that he doesn't have to move so when he does sit down he's got all his stuff next to him he can grade his papers and stuff because he's a teacher and he gets himself to a point where he just doesn't leave his house. He continues to gain weight. And just the smallest task of somebody knocking on the door or something and him having to go to the door, he gets very much out of breath. He gets very sweaty. There's problems with even cleaning yourself.

Like something that we all take for granted, just like hopping in the shower and all these kinds of things. It's tougher when you weigh more. Like imagine just with any of us just being – we're pretty fit. Imagine throwing on a 200-pound weight vest. You wake up tomorrow and you got to kind of lug that around or even a 100-pound weight vest. And then try to like do all the stuff that you're supposed to do that you're responsible for. It makes it really, really hard. So I think ultimately, I think it would be a great idea if we can continue to educate people and try to give people options. I think a lot of times,

again, a lot of times people that are heavy, at least in my experience, and I've helped a lot of people lose weight, there's almost always some sort of trauma. And so I think it sucks to just say, oh, that guy's fat, like he's lazy, he's this, he's that, when you don't really know what that person's experience is because much like someone that does drugs or much like someone else that maybe goes down a path that you don't agree with, they went down that path because of their life experiences and you went on your path because of your life experience. If you had the same life experience as them, you might be in the same crappy position that they're in.

That's true. That's real. Her jugs are back. Oh, yeah. Think that you should shame people. They don't think that you should just say, hey, that's okay. It starts out as, accept me and then help me. But then it moves into, no, just accept me.

I'm just going to keep eating. You can't tell me what to do. They think that, oh, yes, it is okay to be fat. Let's eat more. I don't think it is a good idea to make that movement. I agree with that movement and I like it and I think it's okay because not everybody looks the same way. Sometimes you're not fat and some people call you fat.

Yeah, it's not okay. I was a ballet dancer and I fit because of that, so imagine. It's great for people to feel good, but I would rather promote more healthy stuff than seeing models that are fat. We accept this as the norm. I don't think that's a good thing. Media has the power to shape culture, it's worth examining what's being shown. I think there is a trend now of glamorizing morbid obesity.

So good. I can do things while being fat. And if I were to die tomorrow, I wouldn't regret it. I am fat and there's no shame in it for me. Now look, influencers have always existed from Jesus to traditional celebrities and now micro-influencers. So with social media, we can now connect with people in any niche that speak to us in our viewpoints, including fat influencers.

You are beautiful just the way you are. No one owes you their body. And on the surface, it's a message that most of us can get behind of self-love and acceptance. But on the other hand, is this a message that's contributing to the obesity epidemic? love and acceptance. But on the other hand, is this a message that's contributing to the obesity epidemic?

Have body positivity symbols trapped themselves and their audience in their own message? For years, Adele has been known as one of the most successful musicians of her generation.

And it so happened that not only was she known for her talents, but also viewed as an icon of body positivity. I don't want to be some skinny mini with my tits out. I'm just writing love songs.

But on May 2020, after posting an IG pic of her significantly losing weight, some of her fans started accusing her of betraying the body positivity movement, even when it wasn't her intended brand. So many women were mad when Adele lost all that weight. I was body positive then and I'm body positive now. But it's not my job to validate

how people feel about their bodies. It's not just Adele. From Jonah Hill to countless others, losing weight was like a stab in the back. Jonah Hill's weight has been talked about as much as this movie. It is a big deal. People are obsessed with it. It's the same people that are advocating for body acceptance of all shapes and sizes are the same ones calling betrayal for losing weight.

Do you think? Yo. Interesting as hell. It it is but that's the thing it's it's really interesting how for example i'll bring her up again um what is jeff nippert's girlfriend's name stephanie buttermore stephanie buttermore you know what i mean she talked a lot about body positivity. She got some augmentation. People get mad at her for not loving herself. And it's like when it comes to this, it's super odd that you wanting to increase your health span, increase your lifespan by losing weight, by changing your body will make so many people, I guess it invalidates them or

it makes people feel like, oh, you're not one of us anymore. Or you didn't love yourself because you chose to start to exercise or chose to lose weight. There's a post they showed where that woman was saying why Adele is problematic. Have we really come that far in terms of that shit? Yeah, and they're also relying on a singer for maybe too many things. But maybe, I don't know, I don't know how much she was leaning into the body positivity thing beforehand. And then, yeah, maybe people are upset

and think that she lost weight through some other means, which I think sometimes that matters because she may have had bariatric surgery, which is where they shrink down your stomach. And if someone does that and one day they're preaching about body positivity, I'm okay, I weighed 200x pounds or whatever she may have weighed, you should be comfortable in your own skin. But then the next day they get that surgery and they lose 80 pounds. It does seem like maybe not super genuine, I guess you'd say. It's kind of similar because I think I've underestimated how much people put, I guess, their, they put stock into their identity in terms of somebody else. Because like a lot of people maybe saw themselves in Adele.

In their influencer, yeah. Yeah, and now that she loses weight, they can no longer relate to her, even though they loved her music. Just like many guys have a favorite basketball player that switches teams to another team, and now they're like, fuck LeBron for going to Miami. You've betrayed us. I'm burning your jersey. It's kind of a similar thing to that.

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Links to them down in the description as well as the podcast show notes. I think a culture of fat openness creates a population of more fat people. Fat people will always also have these insecurities. That's why they build a community where they push and support each other. As I said, if it's health concerning, I don't think this movement should be like too strong. So has the movement become too extreme? I actually feel kind of guilty for being a part of this movement. Being a pioneer in this game, like I literally was one of the first influencers to work with fashion over before they even had a plus size line but let's be for real health is real diabetes heart

disease all that is real okay it's not fat phobic to care about your health and if somebody's telling you that it's because they're miserable and they want you to die and stay fat like them because if you guys heard of nikocado avocado is that the eating youtube guy yeah the the white guy with kind of like the hair that goes like that i think so yeah i've heard him pull up any of his like images or whatever but like it's very he's stuck himself into the brand of being the guy that eats a lot of food that is very very overweight and people like to see that it's almost kind of like he's become a show of that it's and now well is going to lose weight to become healthier if his whole brand, his whole personality,

everything he's made money on for years is rubbing his belly going, I'm fat? Right. You've stuck yourself in a corner. You know, I think some of what they were talking about right there, I think it's the price we pay for having freedom. You don't really see this in countries where they have a lot less freedom, where people are forced and told what to do, where there's maybe some communism or these other governments that are set up completely different than our government here. You have the freedom to do whatever you want. And that's why in this country we have everything from, you know,

somebody being 600 pounds to someone shooting up a school. Like it is the price we pay to have the freedom to like do some of these things that we're doing right now, like podcasting. We have like wonderful freedoms that sometimes flourish and sometimes are real colorful and beautiful and other times uh go it goes in a different direction that we didn't really expect so because we have freedom people have the freedom to you know eat whatever way they'd like people have freedom to feed their kids whatever they'd like i think that hopefully over a period of time i think again the only way to solve this

problem in my opinion is through parents. Because I think if the parents can pass along decent eating habits and decent rituals of movement, then we can start to make some headway. But without that, that's going to be really, really difficult. And so I, it's, it's a unfortunate thing and it's like a tough thing to try to figure out. But if the, if the parents can, you know, just kind of like, we have this like slack block thing here. We have these different things that we're rubbing our feet on. We're squeezing our hands on these grippers and these different things. If people can kind of set their homes up to where there's good, healthy options in terms of food, things that taste really good, they just happen to be there all the time. Those foods, not the actual parents, they don't need to be there all the time.

And you have stuff around the house that encourages exercise and you encourage your kids to play sports and you try to go out and throw the ball with them and do these things. Hopefully they'll have those things in their life to where they're going to understand the value. And the woman in the video brought up something interesting. There are a lot of people that are very, very overweight that are exercising. There's a lot of people that are very heavy that exercise routinely and that are eating healthier than they used to. And so we don't really know where people are at in their life. You know, somebody might have lost 50 pounds, 100 pounds.

Russell lost 60 pounds. And if someone called him fat, I'd punch him in the face, you know, because I'd be like, dude, what the fuck? You know, the guy's, he's in here, he's training, he's fucking working on it, you know what I mean? So I think we have to try to think about, there's so many different things to think about when we think about a topic like this. The issue is seen as an attack. Does this suggest that more of the focus is on resistance to change rather than acceptance?

But if it is about acceptance, has the message at least been consistent for everyone? Do you think there are different body standards for men and women? Women have this different connotation than men have maybe it's more Acceptable for a man to be larger than a woman for example like a girl might say like I will never date someone that's shorter Or let's say if a man says I'll never date someone over this way My husband's tall and some people have shorter boyfriends kind of all depends on what you want in life Would it be rude if like men started saying like I won't date girls over a certain weight? I think physical attraction is important

just as much as an emotional attraction. I don't really see fat models for guys. We always have to stand out of the jack dude. Men have a lot of pressure now to look good, but when it comes to sexuality, why am I a hoe if I like to? And you guys are the kings and I'm the hoe. I think these double standards, oh my god, this pissed me off so much.

Do you think there's different bodies? Hey, she likes sex. That's great. Between men and women? 100%. Right now we have a big trend for the dad bods. So my wife says, no, it's great. But then if you look at a woman who might have the mom bod,

just given birth, people shame them for the way they look. That's actually an interesting point. I actually heard more of like the reverse in the sense that there's a lot of like let's say plus size models that are women but not really like plus size models that are for men i would counter that with how many male models do you see versus how many female models do you see so i wanted to ask an actual plus size model why why do you see a lot of like plus size modeling for girls, but not like plus size modeling for men? I think to be honest, some people fetishize fat girls. You don't think there's any fetish for like fat dudes?

Just met a fat dude yesterday and he was cuter than his friend. But you know, I'm very demanding in the bedroom and I think they need that. Pause. This woman's so funny. Very demanding in the bedroom. Yo, those things. Okay okay i'm being real those were very distracting dog like sam i love you i'm just saying like very distracting but that that is a thing you know have you ever heard of feeders no yeah yeah i mean i think i know where you're going with it but so there are there are some

people out there and maybe one of them might be in shape but like they like their partner bigger so they there is this guy on you i wish i remembered his youtube username but he was very big he's uh he had like a million something subscribers um someone will be able to pop his name in the chat but like some a girl got with him and she just kept like buying him junk and feeding him and feeding him because she liked him really fat right so there are people out there who have a fet like you know you know a fetish for a specific type of body you know so that's just that's true you know oh also this is another thing have you guys ever heard uh certain guys who are like i mean yeah i'd fuck a fat chick but i'd never date one or i'd never marry one

i've heard that before yeah we're just playing the video fat girls in your closet no you but the thing is you're gonna say that because i don't have a lot of condition so the guy has to do the work and so it made me think it's better to discourage people from being overweight or to fully accept it despite its potential consequences well i'm curious so you know you say that it's very important for people to demonstrate you know like self-care and not being fat do you think then fat shaming is a good way to promote people to be fit i feel it's not the best way to go about it. If you use other methods, they can be more mindful about the eating patterns, fitness, and all that stuff.

Every time you attack someone on their physique, not a good way to go about things. Well, you're telling me off camera you lost 45 pounds. What made you want to do that in the first place? People around you are in shape, and you just can't lose sight of that. So your environment not only influences your actions, but also your trajectory. And when that's the case, we're both influencing and influenced

by the people we spend the most time with. And so when your actions can directly impact the people closest to you, it may be a different way to explore whether it's okay to be fat. Well, let me ask you this. What would you do if your kids are fat? I think it's like a problem.

It's like a disease. Disease? You cannot live like that. Would you want your kids to be fat? No. What would you do if your kids are fat i think it's like a problem it's like a disease disease you cannot live like that would you want your kids to be fat no what would you do if they are like exercise is like a big part of my life but i thought you can't really like force someone to change pause okay both of you guys do have kids um i don't even know if you guys would be even asked the question because were your kids ever overweight in an any type of unhealthy way i think you know kids they uh they change a lot as they grow you know they might they might grow tall and they might grow wide for a minute and they grow tall and they keep kind of going through

these different changes yeah um neither one of my children were ever really that obsessed with food and i don't know if we got lucky with that or if that was something that we taught them or, um, or it was some other habits that they picked up. I mean, we don't have a lot of like junk food around the house. Yeah. Did you guys, when you were younger and your kids were younger, were you guys ever like, did you guys ever have a bunch of snack food and junk food in the house? Even though you were three 30 at a certain point? Yeah, we had, we had some stuff in the house, but it was, you know, my wife, I still, I think it's important that somebody cooks. Not every family has that happen, but a cooked home meal is going to be different than, you know, going to a restaurant and stuff like that, getting takeout food or fast food and those kinds of things. So I think, you know, our

advantage to keeping our kids healthy was to cook and prepare foods for them. And then if they were at friends' house or whatever, they could do whatever they wanted. We didn't have a lot of rules. But we saw the food that we were – we cooked the food, prepared the food that they were going to eat routinely. So we always felt like this is going to keep them safe. This is going to keep them healthy. This is going to keep them safe this is going to keep them healthy this is going to prevent them from gaining too much body weight and if they did gain body weight they wouldn't gain like some crazy amount yeah like maybe they'd have 10 pounds on them or

something like that with 20 pounds on it but it's not gonna be like a hundred because it was still relatively healthy food yeah i mean my my daughter's never had an issue with it, but I am concerned moving forward just because of the food that's surrounded her when she's outside of our house. Um, just to explain. So like my youngest son does not know anything other than food that will kind of always keep them, you know, healthy. You know, he, um, even when we, if we do go out to eat, like he's not have like, not to judge other people, but like, I'll see other young kids having, you know, uh, like kids meals, right. Where it's like, they're having the, the fried everything should not exist.

They could, they should not exist. No protein fried everything or just fat and carbs. And that's it. When we go out, my son eats meat and like, he just eats protein and fat and that's it. When we go out, my son eats meat and like he just eats protein and fat and that's it. And he doesn't know anything different. And I'm not saying that that's going to be like that forever. But if we start off this foundation in the right way, I think it's just going to set them up in the future. And our house is never going to have like a bunch of stuff that's just going to spiral everything out of control yeah um so i i hope that i'll never have to really be like oh you need to be focused more on this and this and this you're also the example dude and so that's the thing my my wife will work out every day he sees

that or he'll see me working out uh we were on the mats together in the garage last week, and he's active. If he is watching TV, it's amazing. He's just literally jumping on the couch the whole time. I don't tell him to stop because he's just going nuts, right? And so the examples and also I'm not saying you need to eat steak and rice and broccoli or whatever and then going and having pizza like we're doing it all together and there's no straying away from that uh that that way of living yeah you know it's just that's just the way things are and so i don't think i'm gonna have really an issue with him there we go

well they're my kids so i can do whatever the f**k i want so when one person's unhealthy habits can enable another person's, it's easy to see how influence begins. So if culture can shape behavior, what impact can shaming have on the larger population? What is Mexican culture like in regards to being fat? Bullying to the fat people. The parents don't like you to be fat.

I gotta admit something's so fucked. One of my... So again, I told you, in our culture, it's like, you're fat, you get called out. One of my cousins when I was younger, he was kind of chubby. I'd be like, why are you so fat, bro? Like, we'd go back and forth roasting each other. He'd roast the fuck out of me. I'd roast the fuck out of him. But the consistent back pocket roast that I always had, and I't feel good about this it's just like it's the checkmate yeah

it's the checkmate it's like i've laid my trap card and you have fallen you know it sucks and you even see this thing from like kids when i was in elementary school we had a teacher i think this is brecklemeyer she was really overweight and kids would really just like say shit about that like around her kids are brutal but the thing is kids can see that it's kids can see that it's like abnormal or somewhat a problem i'm not saying that you should be making fun of people but it's like yeah yeah kids kids are going to tell you the truth yeah and then yeah so mexican culture so you know when you're young and the kids eating a lot it's celebrated it's oh, he's a good eater. And then as you get older, you get in trouble if you don't clear out your plate. And so it starts to develop like some weird habits there as well, because you have celebrated when you're really young. You're getting in trouble if you don't eat all the way through. You start to gain weight and get made fun of. if you don't eat all the way through, you start to gain weight and get made fun of.

This is, you know, what's so funny about that in, in Nigerian culture, like my grandma, I told you guys when I got older, I was still really big, but I was lean. So my grandma was like, you need to put some more fat on your bones because over there, it's like, there is, there is a fat threshold. You, you can be fat where you like, you know, you have, you have some, you know, I mean your biceps and stuff like you have heft, but you're not like so some – You're round. No, I mean your biceps and stuff. You have heft. Yeah. But you're not so big that you can't go do shit. It's like you'll get shamed when you start getting really big.

But if you like – you don't have to be single-digit body. You're 15 percent body fat and you're big. It's like that means you're strong. You start to get a lean face and veins, you're out of the family. It means you need to eat more you know what i mean but yeah they'll they'll they'll they'll fucking shame the fuck i think a lot of these things are passed on like in cultures because we probably did you probably did eat very healthy at some point you know like probably didn't have oh yeah like refried beans or something very regular

beans it probably had you know chicken that was healthier and wasn't cooked in oil and all these different things and now um we just we just fucked everything up there's so many calories so many like mexican food is the greatest example because mexican food is so great it can be so healthy it's not even hard to make it healthy and it's still good you don't even have to go out of your way that much to make it pretty damn healthy. Yeah. But the way that most people eat it now, it's going to be really calorically dense. So if you eat as much as you want and you do clear your plate, you probably have eaten way too much. I'm hungry.

Damn it. He's a great singer, you know. But sometimes I say, oh, you have to be thinner to be, you know, but sometimes I say oh you have to be thinner to be you know You're like an image so now leaves according to her There's a bit of shaming in Mexican culture, but at the same time Mexico is one of the fatter countries in the world What is French culture like when it comes to fat people? So I grew up but not really fat chunky Yeah, my brother has called me like the Michelin. And that stuck with me for a long time.

And I think that's one of the reasons why I went to exercise a lot. So let me dig into that. That seems like fast shaming worked. I think so. In countries like Japan, we've seen even more drastic measures of shaming. Big bellies in Japan are suddenly bad news. The Metabo Law enacted in 2008 requires employers to measure their employees' waist circumference to prevent metabolic syndromes caused by obesity to identify those at risk.

And it aims to encourage healthier lifestyles and participation in health management programs. And even as a developed society, Japan is one of the least fat countries. It makes a lot of sense if you're an employer and you're paying for their insurance and stuff like that. Yeah. Like, let's have them not have to use that insurance so much. But also, like, you encourage community movement. Like, you saw all those people doing whatever they were doing. Like, you encourage people to start moving more.

You know what I mean? Good on you, Japan. Japanese people are weird. Oh, shit. Yeah. He's going into are weird i've been there yeah i went to a bowling alley and they're like exercising as they're bowling it was so interesting they're like dancing and doing these exercises in the background and then like what what the people i was there it was weird because i was in wrestling at the time and it was with my friend nathan jones who's like six foot eleven and he's the guy in troy that gets killed by brad pitt and it was just bizarre i'm like with these like wrestling guys and then these little japanese

people are in the background like dancing and bowling and stuff it was so strange like what the hell are they doing and they were staring at us and we were staring at them like what the fuck are they doing like who the fuck are these guys these mutant wrestler american guys what are they doing okay yeah i'll have you flesh that one out yeah we could have keep going somebody will just take the piece of it yeah yeah good oh shit but wait wait let's look at this. It's working. 4.3%. Wow. Ethiopia, Nepal.

Okay. Cool. Hey, Burkina Faso, Afghanistan. Andrew, Mark, you want to take a gander at that next country? What's that? I can't see. What's under Afghanistan? I was like, what are you talking about?

What's the country name? Niger. Thank you. Good. You got it right. I was like, where's he going with this? I want to trap one of you guys. It's Niger.

Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's keep going. Under that deeper into how different levels of acceptance has impacted different countries around the world. Where are you from again? Argentina.

France. I'm from Iran. Okay. Let me ask you. In Argentina, are there a lot of fat people? Not much. Our food is not as fast food as in America. There's not as many obese people in Iran as I see when I go to Vegas. Everything in the U.S., the portion size is just reloaded. So back home, more organic stuff and people eat with family, so it's more enjoyable. So I think it's a cultural thing. In New york for example i

was with another plus-sized girl we were walking on the street and every five minutes wherever you go they were like hola senoritas you know europe where i am from they like slim girls but i think in most of the u.s parts they like them fat and juicy thick why do you think a lot of people in america are fat juicy and thick because honestly the food is really shitty and then the good food healthy food is so fucking expensive so people eat unhealthy pause is is healthy food expensive or is it do we perceive it to be expensive because what we you know what i mean because you can make healthy meals yeah i think it's been kind of shown and demonstrated that it's not necessarily exponentially that much more expensive, but you can get really cheap.

You can fill up really, really cheap, but you're going to fill up on pure junk food though. So there shouldn't be – I don't really think there should be a comparison because the quality is so poor. And if you can get – one of the things about your diet is that when you get better quality foods, hopefully you select foods that will make you fuller quicker with less calorie intake,

eating leaner sources of meat and things like that. And yes, that can be pricey, but that's way different than you just eating some Taco Bell or something like that. Yeah. I think if everybody treated themselves as they would like their grandkids or something, right. You know, it's like if somebody were to go grocery shopping, oh, that's way too expensive. I'm just going to get the boxed food. But then if you think like, oh, what if this was for your grandkids or your kids or whatever it may be? And's like how healthy do you want them to be well as healthy as possible okay would you

spend a little bit more for them like off without a doubt of course i would but when it comes to ourselves kind of like what i said on the previous podcast like we're pretty selfish when it comes to happiness and feeling good but not so much when it comes to our health for some weird reason power project family we talk about beef and meat all the time on the podcast that's why we partnered with certified piedmontese beef but did you know this that 85 of all grass-fed grass-finished beef in the united states is imported from other countries 85 but certified piedmontese is made in the u.s of of A. America. America. Fuck yeah.

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that if you want to lose weight you might want to put that cheeseburger down you fat but what we see is that the food and health system in america is a lot deeper all right are we going to nitpick that real quick i do like that they showed patrick star. Yes. Yeah. But, you know, there's nothing wrong with meat. There's nothing wrong with fat. It's like there's, it's the mixture of a lot of things together as we've talked about a lot. Yeah.

It's just overeating. You know, you find foods that make it easy to overeat and you're going to overeat. You know, you find so many foods, like you think about like if you were to eat like Chinese food or Mexican food, those are going to be or Italian food. Those are going to be things that you're going to you're going to kind of blend them all together. You know, you're going to take the pasta and the sauce and the meat and you're going to put everything together, throw some Parmesan cheese on it and have a party.

Right. Don't forget the bread. And you're going to have bread with it. So that's just going to be like insanely calorically dense, which at some point in history was probably important to make things very calorically dense. But now that we kind of just sit around, we're not going to be able to expend that energy super easily. So I think, you know, a lot of times people are going to try to blame it on, you know, people eating cheeseburgers or people eating sugar. Ah, it's sugar. Sugar is the problem. People are addicted to sugar. Maybe they are a little bit. Maybe people do need to cut back on eating sugar. Ah, it's sugar. Sugar is the problem. People are addicted to sugar.

Maybe they are a little bit. Maybe people do need to cut back on their sugar. But overall, you have to try to figure out a way. How can you ultimately fill yourself up easier with foods that have less energy in them? And, you know, we're going to be those bodybuilders. But protein is one of those big things that people don't necessarily eat enough of. I know you will hear some people say,icans over consume or eat too much protein they're not eating

first off quality protein and not eating stuff that will fill them up so when we talk about food like we're talking about steak chicken fish etc if you if you eat these foods they will make you full and not want to eat more but most people eat foods that like they can end up eating more and more and more of. Isn't it odd that like when you have a burger and fries, it's like the fries give you a little bit of a buffer to eat more food. There's always room for them. Because like fries, you can just put that shit back, you know, and it has a lot of fat, has a lot of carbohydrates.

It's calorically dense. Salty. But do try and eat like, you go to in and out maybe and get yourself uh a few flying dutchmen maybe that's six patties it's gonna have less calories and after you eat probably the fourth patty you're gonna be pretty fucking full i can go through 10 or 12 of them but like there's you know you will be full you end up with uh they call it palate fatigue and they they had uh, I think, eating ice cream, and they wanted to see how much ice cream someone could eat.

And they were able to eat more ice cream when they ate French fries in between. Man versus food. He was trying to, like, eat this world-famous thing in under a certain amount of time, and so he called for fries, and he put extra salt on them, ate them, and then he kept going. Shit.

Yeah. Must go. The move. We talk about this stuff all the time, but we will have something for you guys. We'll have it here somewhere. It'll be pretty much a simple guide for you in terms of what we do as far as nutrition is concerned. Would it be okay if I put that I eat In-N-Out at least once a week on there?

Of course, because you do. No, I literally do i love that place and as always the key is to follow the money our food environment doesn't match what humans are meant to eat a lot of people don't even know what processed foods are every system is built on these food lies because it makes them hungry the profits in the processing cheap processed food made of corn wheat soy like chicken nuggets ready to go meals like huge profit market you grow meat fish eggs vegetables there's not a lot of profit margin the big processed food companies

they have all the money now they can do lobbying marketing most of the industry research out there is funded by these big food companies i find something very disturbing about that and when most of our food system is producing processed foods, we become so accustomed to the effects that we don't even realize it until we go somewhere else. For the past 10 days, I've been in Italy and I've eaten nothing but meat, cheese, pasta, and pizza. And you know what? I felt fantastic. I ate like absolute shit and didn't work out

and I never felt healthier. It turns out the EU has way stricter food regulations than the US. They don't allow as many preservatives, additives, or GMOs. I think we're literally eating poison here. And with our system incentivizing providers to treat illnesses and diseases rather than prevention, it makes you wonder, is the system set up to keep people sick and treat patients as subscription customers to maximize profit? The whole medical system is not a wellness system.

It's a sick care. All of this is based on money. Because even with the U.S. spending by far the most on health care out of any country, then why are we one of the fattest? Disease is probably the biggest business in America. Obesity, cancer, it's all monetary, you know? You get within this system of care and you get stuck there, you know? You become reliant on that. One pill creates another symptom that you get on another pill for and another pill, you know know i think the best thing you can do for yourself is take care of yourself so do you think that america is promoting this culture of fatness to get more patients in the door i wouldn't uh doubt it for a second so the issue is not just

what do you guys think about that because it does seem to be a nice little conveyor belt you know rather than talking about the habits, the things to do daily, the way you can handle your nutrition. Like instead, here's a medication to deal with those heart issues you're having. Here's another medication to deal with the pain you're having rather than promoting actual, you know. Yeah, I mean, a lot of people have talked about it. And just one perspective that I give because I'm more on the side of like, well, fire your doctor if they don't even bring a diet or whatever.

Yeah. But that doctor has probably seen thousands of patients that are going down this path. They have habits of terrible eating. They're not going to change it. So it's like, well, shoot, if you're not going to change anything, here's the last ditch effort. Start taking medications because you are not going to change. Therefore, here's something that's just going to help prolong you.

Yes, you're going to have to buy more. Yes, you're going to have to come back to see me. The alternative is you either change all your habits and change your lifestyle, which is probably not going to happen, or you die. Those are the other options. So with that said, I'm pretty sure you're just going to reach for this canister of pills. Yeah, I don't really know how much of like a big conspiracy theory it is or like, you know, some giant plan. But I do think that it's the way that the country is set up.

plan, but I do think that it's the way that the country's set up. And it definitely, you know, the pharmaceutical companies are going to keep coming up with different medications like Ozempic and these different things to assist people with stuff that, you know, people are really having a hard time controlling. They're having a hard time managing it themselves. And so those pharmaceutical companies, they're going to try to do their best to, I think, assist and help in those areas because there is so much profit. Are they actually making you healthier? If someone takes Ozempic and loses 50 pounds, we don't really know yet. I'm sure they did studies on it and stuff like that. I'm sure they did studies on it and stuff like that i'm sure they did their due diligence on it but the way that those those pharmaceutical companies make so

much money and they have uh they they they spend so much time like researching their stuff what one of the things that they'll implement into their uh budget is people dying and people suing them. There's car companies and stuff do the same thing. It's like, they just call it the price of doing business. So they know that some of these drugs will kill people. Like they will harm people. They will hurt people. But they still make them anyway, because they're going to make, you know, $75 billion on something or whatever it might be. And there probably should be more regulation on it. There probably should be stricter rules and things like that on it. But I don't know about rules and laws.

It just seems like it bottles things up and makes things even more confusing. It's not just about laziness, but a system that is feeding you unhealthy options. Then what is the solution? What do you think is like the right balance between acceptance and improvement? You have to accept the people who choose the way they want to be. And for the improvement side, you just have to be there to support the people who want to make improvements. You can't just force your beliefs on someone and you can't force someone to make a change. Because the first step to improvement is acceptance. And more importantly, deciphering if you're deluding yourself from working towards improvement in the name of acceptance. Because if there's even a tiny

whisper inside of you that's telling you you should be doing more and that you don't want to be fat, then you're settling. Maybe look at yourself in the mirror a little bit. Just be honest to yourself. Just be honest with yourself. Because the moment you start looking inwards, you can start changing your reality. And what used to be your insecurity can now become one of the best reasons for wanting to improve. It's why the lonely outcast nerd

creates a social network. It's why the misunderstood comedian want to make people laugh. And it's why the person who works out consistently year after year was once the fat kid. And it's when we start embracing brutal honesty within ourselves in life is when we start uplifting others around us to do the same and that's exactly the mission to explore the unfamiliar thanks for watching and subscribe if

you want to see more content where I turn Street interviews into investigative journalism and if YouTube gets it right you'll like this video too cool do white lives matter oh this guy's an amazing creator i haven't owen just sent this to us but dude amazing video jen i'm not sure that's your name but that's your channel name amazing video dog um yeah really good yeah yeah he ended it with uh yeah that was really cool the way he kind of ended it but i think a lot of people would want for people to take personal responsibility but sometimes when you get into the personal responsibility category you also uh things kind of turn political and people get upset and they get kind of mad uh and'll say, I don't have the same opportunities as this person

or that person. And it just gets to be a mess. But I do think that everyone, everyone should be able to look themselves in the mirror and they should be able to say, I can get better. I can learn more. I have the ability to learn. I have the ability to make progress with whatever my current situation is, no matter who you are. And if you have someone in your life that is overweight, you know, and they are trying to do something about it, that's someone that wants help. So help them out. But if you have somebody in your life, that's like, you know, they, they say they're proud and they're feeling fine and they don't want to change. There's no reason to, I guess, force your opinions upon their life because at the end of the day, it is their life.

It is not yours. And just because you're living a super, you feel good and you feel fit and healthy, if someone doesn't want any part of that, it's not your job to try to force it down their throats. Yeah, there's plenty of information out there now. Kind of what you were talking about earlier about younger kids getting into the gym

and that sort of thing. remember in elementary school there was like two or three kids that were overweight overweight in the whole school yeah and i used to just think like oh it's weird that they were the ones that were selected to be the ones that were overweight as i got older and there's kids that were jacked i'm like that's weird that they're the ones i got selected to be jacked you know and in shape and now it's like well shit now i know better but like to to kind of be clueless in this day and age i think you're like avoiding information you know so what i'm getting at is like if somebody does want to get health well wants to uh lose weight like the information is available now you know like it's no longer like, I don't know what to do.

Even though people still say that, it's a cop out. I'm just interested. When is the next time the fitness community is going to have something they're going to get angry about? Because, you know, whenever there's some type of like big mannequin or some model on something, you start to see a bunch of fitness people like, ah, this is this is uh promoting fat people just put the fork down eat less move more yeah that that is one thing man that like

i can't understand like i feel like sometimes you know some some fit people just find some shit to get mad about that's like you don't you don't need to be fucking getting so angry about this this isn't the battle you need to fucking try to fight. But, yeah, who knows? Let us know what you guys thought about this video. And he asked actually a lot of good questions to some of those people. So let us know your thoughts. Ideally, we'll have the PDF we talked about somewhere in the description or it will be somewhere where you can go to our website and get it there.

But we'll have that for you. PDF, what do you mean? Oh yeah. So we have talked about the way that we diet and the way that we eat and all those things for a long time on this podcast. So in this PDF that we're going to have for you guys, just going to be a simple guide to how we do things at home. And maybe you can take some of those habits. You can take some of those things and add them into your lifestyle to make dieting, working out, just this whole habit of trying to be healthy easier for you. It can be easier. It doesn't have to be impassable.

Take us on out of here, Andrew. All righty. Like Nseema said, drop those comments down below. Try not to be mean. We'd appreciate that. And so make sure you guys subscribe, like, all that good stuff, and follow the podcast at MBPowerProject all over the place. That's Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, all that stuff. My Instagram is at IamAndrewZ.

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