Mark Bell's Power Project - Power Bite: How To Spot a Fake Natty ft. Greg Doucette

Starting point is 00:00:00 What's your barometer? Like what's your measuring stick on whether someone's on stuff or not? Power Project family. This is a power bite and a power bite is a highlight from a full length episode that we do not want you to miss. Links to the full episode are on the podcast show notes along with special perks for all of our beautiful listeners. Enjoy.

Starting point is 00:00:17 One thing I will mention is you made a video on our homie rest. Well, I hope we're going to get him on the podcast soon. But what I what I did appreciate was like, you saw how he was drug tested a bunch of the IPF and that dude is a ball of muscle. But then you ended up making a video later on where you're like, actually saw these drug tests. Looks like he actually is.

Starting point is 00:00:35 And that was really dope because some people would just double down on that, but you didn't. So that was pretty sick. Yeah. I, when I do Natty or not videos, I do it based on my i guess to be honest like i don't know like i'm not i'm not how would i know i don't i'm guessing

Starting point is 00:00:50 and i'm like based on the numbers he's lifted and how good he was and all this stuff i'm like i don't think so and he posted a picture and he said he was him at 15 and it was making a joke yeah yeah and i didn't know and i didn't know this guy so like, well, if he's willing to lie about how he looked at 15, then he's willing to lie about being natural. So I kind of thought that. And then I didn't know that he had been drug tested and broke these records. And I'm like, well, I don't think he's on anything now. So I'm not one that like, well, like if I'm wrong, I admit it.

Starting point is 00:01:19 I'm like, dude, I made a mistake. I'll just straight out admit it because I'm not always right. I joked that I was like right 9.9% of the time. But I'm like, clearly, I made a mistake. I'll just straight out admit it because I'm not always right. I joked that I was like right 99 point whatever percent of the time. But I'm like, clearly I'm wrong sometimes. And I'm like, if I see that I make a mistake, I'm going to make a video saying, no, I made a mistake. If you handle it really well, it's just like if somebody thinks you're not natural, like some people respond back like I hate you. Like and I'm like, why didn't you take that as a compliment? Now, at the same time, I make natty or not videos on people.

Starting point is 00:01:44 When I say they're natural, they all get mad. Why? Really? You didn't think I that as a compliment? Now, at the same time, I make natty or not videos on people. When I say they're natural, they all get mad. Why? Really? You didn't think I was like maybe unnatural? Like that's what the response is now. So no matter what I say in a video, some people react to it in a bad way. Well, what's your barometer? Like what's your measuring stick on whether someone's on stuff or not?

Starting point is 00:01:58 Do you have something there? You're like how fast they progress at a certain specific period of time. So it's like if you put on five pounds of muscle for 10 years straight and all of a sudden look amazing like really good all of a sudden it's like something went on right there you know that is like kind of an obvious sign if you've been bench pressing it's gone up 10 pounds a year for five years and all of a sudden you put on 50 it's like that kind of like that transition in that short period of time or like i look at pictures and i see okay this this shows a linear trend or a sloping law of diminished returns you're

Starting point is 00:02:30 going to gain a lot of newbie gains and it kind of trickles off like if you look if you say i'm going to try to show when greg took steroids you look back and you're like okay this this this and it's like all of a sudden from this photo to this photo, look at that in this many months. It's obvious. So it's easy to like go and say, that's when it happened. So it's like, that's what Derek did. He's just like, watch this and said, well, this is, this is what happened. And so I did videos about that. And it, to me, it's very obvious, but what's hard is I can say somebody's natural.

Starting point is 00:02:59 They can get away with it by, by basically just taking like HRT the whole time, like just really low doses. And it's like, well, look, I gained five pounds a year for 10 years straight. Where's the big increase? And you don't see it. And it's like, I don't know. We've all heard that to get optimal sleep, you should cool your room down to 68 to 69 degrees, but that's not all you need to do. That's why we've partnered with Eight Sleep Mattresses. Now they have the pod pro and the pod pro cover. And the amazing technology of this mattress allows you to cool the mattress down to 55 degrees or to have it as warm as 110 degrees. But the great thing is that the temperature changes through the night based off your actual body temperature

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Starting point is 00:04:20 but the problem is it's different for everyone. So for example, Ronnie Coleman's limit is higher than me on steroids. So you take Ronnie Coleman, a hundred percent natural at his prime, and he's bigger than me on steroids. So anyone that would look at Ronnie Coleman natural would make a natty or not video like Phileon. That's what he does. He picks anyone that looks half-assed and says they have to be on steroids. That's just what he does. I don't know if you know who he is, but he would do all the natty or not. It's like me and derek and it's like anyone that looked pretty good he's like there's no way they're natural but if you take any ifbb pro on the olympia stage and get all the gear out of them and and show them

Starting point is 00:04:54 every single one will look like they're enhanced they have to be chris bumstead without any steroids is still going to look ridiculous he's still going to be like how do you look like that ian valer all these guys every single IP pro in the open class, if they were natural, would still look like, imagine Big Ramy natural. What would he look like? He's only 230, ripped. It would still be so much more than most people could achieve natural that you would just assume they're on steroids.

Starting point is 00:05:22 So that's the problem is that there's those outliers, that one in a million that can do it natural. So the problem is how do we know which ones are and which ones aren't? And we don't. Do you think that you've made a dent in the fake nattiness? Just thinking about videos that you make, Derek, and then people like yourself and Mark Bell who like are just are open with what you're taking. Do you think that you have, you know, started to uh like i said kind of minimize the amount of fake natties out there or even possibly one day you might i don't want to say kill but you know get rid of all of them and more people just either be legit natural or just start taking stuff and then start admitting it because they know

Starting point is 00:05:59 that someday greg is going to come get Well, I certainly think that people like myself, Derek, Fillion, anyone that talks about nanonauts, it's exposed to people or education. Like even Isaiah Miranda, who you look at him and you're like, probably natural, but then he goes and does his blood work, 21 nanograms per deciliter. And you're like, dude, that doesn't prove you're natural. It'll prove you got off something. So you expose people like that.

Starting point is 00:06:22 And then obviously less people are going to be willing to take that risk because they're like, oh, I'm going to get exposed. But then somebody like me comes out and says, I'm on HRT. Somebody else does it and somebody else does it. The Brandon Hardings, for example, they're kind of open about their things. It becomes almost normalized. And so for me, the goal would be to have no stigma associated with taking HRT. have no stigma associated with taking HRT. So most people in their forward, like I know so many people on HRT, they don't tell their wives. They don't tell anyone because as soon as you say you're on testosterone, people like automatically think, oh, that's why you have that muscle. So people just keep it in secret. So, so many people are on steroids, but don't say anything because they don't look like they're on anything. Like most people take steroids, don't even look like they work out. And I know because I used to sell it. Like, you know, I was 20 months house arrest. I used to sell steroids. Canada, it's not as big of a fine as in other countries. But yeah, so I did that whole thing. So I have the experience. I've done it in the past. I've seen the people taking these things. I have experience with that.

Starting point is 00:07:16 And I'm telling you, most people taking steroids, they just want to look like they work out.

Mark Bell's Power Project - Power Bite: How To Spot a Fake Natty ft. Greg Doucette

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