Mark Bell's Power Project - Power Project EP. 48 - Motivational Speaker Eddie Pinero
Episode Date: May 9, 2018Today we spoke via phone call with founder of @your_world_within and Motivational Speaker Eddie Pinero. Eddie has done TEDx Talks and his YouTube Channel, Your World Within, has over 22 Million views.... Re-Watch the Live Stream Here: https://youtu.be/b5vve0FA9Yo ➢SHOP NOW: https://markbellslingshot.com/ Enter Discount code, "POWERPROJECT" at checkout and receive 15% off all Sling Shots ➢Subscribe Rate & Review on iTunes at: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/mark-bells-power-project/id1341346059?mt=2 ➢Listen on Stitcher Here: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/mark-bells-power-project?refid=stpr ➢Listen on Google Play here: https://play.google.com/music/m/Izf6a3gudzyn66kf364qx34cctq?t=Mark_Bells_Power_Project ➢Listen on SoundCloud Here: https://soundcloud.com/markbellspowerproject FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell ➢ Snapchat: marksmellybell Follow The Power Project Podcast ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/MarkBellsPowerProject Podcast Produced by Andrew Zaragoza ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz
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All right, Mark, we're live.
Are we live on Facebook, too?
Not today.
What the?
It's a bunch of bullshit.
Yeah.
Maybe later today we'll get that going.
I'll put it live on my phone.
On the telephone.
We'll do that.
Today we got a motivational person on.
We have Eddie Pinero, I believe is the way that you pronounce his name.
He has a YouTube channel called Your World Within.
And he's got some cool shit that I've listened to and that I've enjoyed.
And I know a lot of people start their day that way.
You know, a lot of people nowadays, they kind of are trying to figure out a routine.
The typical nine to five is probably a thing of the past for a lot of people nowadays, they kind of are trying to figure out a routine. The typical nine to five
is probably a thing of the past for a lot of people. A lot of people either kind of work for
themselves or kind of are allowed to within the job they're in. If they work for a company that's
worth a shit, the company will allow them to kind of make their own schedule a little bit their own way, at least customize it so that it kind of fits their lifestyle so that what you're doing isn't just a job.
It's more than that.
And you're working for something bigger than yourself, like we do here at Slingshot.
And kind of in all that, personal development is huge.
of in all that personal development is huge um i don't think enough people still to this day i still don't think enough people are engaging in having personal development i think there's um
for whatever reason uh people just don't think enough period there are people that think too
much to where it's crippling and paralyzing but but there's a lot of people that just, they don't, they don't think, and you need to, you need to like reflect, not necessarily reflect back on
the past and not necessarily reflect on what's going to happen. Um, well, you can't really
reflect on what's going to happen. It's more usually things that have already happened, but
it's, it's more about kind of just reflecting on yesterday and how can you be better today than you were yesterday.
And that's where motivation comes in because it's hard to have the discipline.
It's hard to have just flat out just self-discipline.
How many people do you know that have really strong, just you, you just, when you think
discipline, how many people come to mind?
It's probably like, I don't know, man, probably at least in your own inner circle, there's
probably only maybe two, maybe three, maybe at the most, you know, like if you're surrounding
yourselves with some good people, maybe, you know, five guys where you're like, you know
what, man, I don't know what makes that guy tick or how it's working for him, but that guy's got it
fucking figured out a lot better than most. And he's able to make it happen day in and day out.
He's, um, he's got habits that are the foundation that make up his character and he won't budge
against any of those things. Um, some of us have friends or family members that refuse to cuss.
Some of us have friends and family members that refuse to have a drink at all.
And then other people have, I know some people that won't drink in front of their children
ever, or won't, you know, if they like smoking a joint or whatever, they have the discipline
to, to kind of understand like, okay, you know,
maybe that's a hard thing to explain. So I'm going to do things this way. And then they have their
own discipline and their own internal code that they're like, you know what? I'd never be fucking
caught dead eating food from seven 11. And you have a lot of these different people that, you
know, they have these, these fundamental, uh, things that kind of make up who they are. And some people are really fucking strong
to where you're like that motherfucker is like a sorcerer or some shit. I don't know what he's
operating on, but it's definitely different than, uh, than, than what I'm dealing with or what I,
with the ability that I have. And I think that that's what we are kind of looking for. And we have a lot of ups and downs each and every day.
And we're just looking for someone to come along
and give us that little kick,
that little boost of motivation.
The weird thing is, is that we shouldn't need it,
but we do.
We really do.
We really do.
For some reason, we really need a fucking pat on the back.
It's not good enough to just have a job well done.
It's like you need not only one person, but you need multiple people telling you how great it was.
I don't know why that is, but that's just kind of the way things are.
And we look at social media, we have a lot of anxiety about how many likes we get and how many different things.
So nowadays nowadays things are
really amplified. We deal with more hurt and more pain in one given day. Uh, and that's why it's,
it's hard to identify with the children of today because things are so immediate. Things are
happening so fast. Um, we can kind of empathize, but we really don't know what it's like to grow
up this day and age. I mean, think about when you make a post, when you put something up, Andrew, like let's say you put up a post.
It was your favorite picture, right?
And you check it out a little bit later on.
It doesn't have any fucking likes.
Or somebody makes a shit comment like that was a, you know, somebody's like that was a crappy angle or, you know, somebody just, they, anyway, my point is, is like that shit can hurt you and it can kind of throw it.
It can kind of throw you off and, and, uh, deter you from some of the things that you, uh, set out to do.
And so we're, therefore we're looking for external motivation. people I think are clicking on the YouTubes and looking up motivational stuff, whether it be from
a motivational speaker, whether it be from a bodybuilder. A lot of people find people like
Joe Rogan, very motivating. Our boy, Matt Vincent, maybe myself, maybe the Bailey's. There's a lot
of people that you're seeking out motivation from and from person, you're getting it in a different way. Um,
CT Fletcher, shout out to my boy, CT Fletcher, who had a heart surgery. Uh, he had a, uh, a new heart put in his body and, uh, congratulations to him and his family on that being successful
so far. And hopefully that continues. Sometimes we simply find motivation in people just from like
what they're doing or what they're going through um and ct fletcher's case ct fletcher used to get
up there and like and yell and scream and go nuts for you well now he doesn't have to say anything
because he's overcoming this this crazy amount of adversity yeah um my brother you know both my
brothers both my brothers should have never
drank. They should have never done any drugs, but they did. And my brother, Chris, who's able to
come out the other side, uh, clean and sober for the last four years. We have a lot of admiration
for that because we're like that guy figured shit out to where he was able to make a really strong
change. We all have our vices. We all understand that things can grab
ahold of us pretty strongly. And when somebody is able to, um, again, sometimes it's the things
that you don't do that are, that are, um, admirable. Um, and, uh, my, my brother being
able to overcome that situation, even though some of it was self-inflicted, just like the,
though, some of it was self-inflicted. Just like you're not happy with how much money you make right now is somewhat self-inflicted. Just like you're not happy with the physique that you have
right now, that's somewhat self-inflicted. That's somewhat of a choice. Being strong,
being stronger than you are now is a choice. You have a choice to each and every day to say, you know what,
my knee hurts, man. And I don't, I don't know, man. Like I'll never be, I'll never be as strong
as some of the guys at super training. I'll never be as strong as this guy or that guy.
That's all, that's all just a, that's all a choice. How do we gain momentum? How do we get
motivation? How do we get head in the right direction? And I think that it doesn't
matter how you do it. You just need to figure out a way to get it done. And so it can come from
anywhere. It doesn't matter how weird or corny or whatever somebody might think. People might
think some of these messages on YouTube are ludicrous, where someone's telling you, hey,
man, you got to wake up and take charge of the day. The world is yours.
What you make of it is up to you.
And it's a decision to go out there and kick ass every day.
Somebody might think that that's insane.
Well, guess what, man?
Some people just need to hear that.
We're all at different points in our life.
And I can honestly say that I have been judgmental towards people in certain times of their life, and I've ended up in
the exact same spot that I made fun of people for. I can say the same thing is true with my training,
the same thing is true with my diet. A lot of the things that I thought were false have become true,
or at least true to me for now. And your beliefs and all these things, they tend to change and they tend to waver.
So that's, that's what this podcast today is going to try to figure out.
As we, as we talk to Eddie Panero, as we talk to him today, we're going to try to get to
the bottom of some of this, because again, there's going to be some people that some
people are watching this right now and just turned it right back off.
Because, like, oh, great, they're going to talk about motivation.
I don't want to fucking hear a speech or whatever.
I'm just here to tell you that some people just need it sometimes.
And maybe you'll be that person at some point in your life.
We all go through different things and we all need different perspective.
And so, I was watching something the other day and it was from Will perspective. And so I was watching something
the other day and it was from Will Smith, you know, and that was really uplifting. And that was
that, uh, I got some positive vibes from that, but I saw the same exact message from Will Smith,
like six months ago. And I didn't feel it for whatever reason. Sometimes it matters whether
you have headphones on or whether you just hearing hearing it just off your phone because it going like directly into your ear is way different you playing it on the speakers of
your in your car is way different so the environment that you're in the very timing that you play it
maybe you're sad about something and you play something and bam it spikes you and it makes you
feel uh awesome i watched something recently from um matthew mcconaughey matthew mcconaughey you know
he's one of those actors where you're like oh great there's the you know dude that my my wife
always talks about looking hot you know and we all in in every household there's uh that that
happens right we're uh this and and men are totally we're guilty it, but men just say it about everybody.
It's got a nice pair of tits, right?
Well, McConaughey hates t-shirts, so there's that.
Yeah, McConaughey hates t-shirts, and every guy has been guilty of being like,
oh, he's a fag or whatever, just to try to demolish whatever handsomeness the guy has.
You just hate.
Yeah, flat-out uh, flat out hatred.
But I found a lot of the stuff that he said to be extremely motivating.
And I found a lot of it to, um, to come from experience.
And I think that's ultimately what we're looking for is hopefully, uh, these bouts of motivation
that people are spewing.
Hopefully they're kind of coming from somewhere.
Uh, hopefully it's not, um, it's not just manufactured manufactured out of nowhere or it's not just repeating what other people say.
And that's why I have attached myself to some of these things that Eddie Panero is saying because they have been different.
I mean, he even has a speech where he talks about thinking differently.
And one of the lines he says, which I really liked, was stop waiting in lines for shit that you don't want.
And I just thought that was incredible.
So we're going to give him a call in just a second.
Before we do that, I want to mention that I am going to, we are live right now on the YouTubes.
But I am going to go to England in a few days, or tomorrow, actually.
And when I go there, I'll be gone for about 10 to 12 days.
I will be at Body Power, which is a huge fitness event they have over there.
And I'll be gone for a couple days.
So this podcast is going to run a little differently while I'm gone.
You obviously won't see as many live ones while I'm gone for 10 days.
But who knows what Andrew and I will,
we'll drum up and come up with while I'm gone.
Yeah.
I'm sure we'll,
we'll be able to figure out a remote podcast,
you know,
while you're over there and I'll take care of it over here.
That's just called technology,
right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Andrew,
what,
you know,
do you find some motivation from some of these things?
Are you kind of checking out Instagram and YouTube and things that are
popping up?
I know you're extremely busy doing this shit all the time.
Cause I just,
guys,
you guys have no idea by the way,
how much work I just keep piling up on top of Andrew's head.
I mean,
it would go what?
A couple of miles into outer space.
If people could actually physically see it. Yeah. I'm definitely not one would go, what, a couple miles into outer space if people could actually physically see it.
Yeah, I'm definitely not one to brag, but, I mean, yeah.
Luckily, and I tell this to everybody who's like— He's not one to brag, but he's going to brag.
Yeah, I'm going to go nuts.
Well, it's funny because I'll try to explain what I do to somebody who has an 8-to-5 job,
and they're just like, oh, no, you can't be doing that.
Like, no, no, no, no. Like, your company needs to give you a day off. And I'm just
like, no, you don't understand. Like, I, I absolutely love what I do.
He's not allowed to have a day off. We already talked to, you know, let's,
it's almost like he signed up to be a mom, you know, moms that are listening to this show. Like
you're not allowed to have a day off ever. Yeah. So i i keep saying that december 32nd is my next day off
and i i kind of that that's my motivation but now um i depending on where i find it and when i find
whether it be one of these motivational videos or like an instagram post or something because like
i could i could see like a um what's uh like a gary v post and be like, you know, like I've seen this said so many different times because people were kind of doing what he does and copying it.
And then I might see their post first or whatever.
But then someone like you might send me one of these videos from Eddie Pinero, who I've never heard of.
And I have no idea what his accomplishments are.
But if I had found that on my own, I might have no idea what his accomplishments are, but if I had found
it on my own, I might've just been like, yeah, whatever, like dime a dozen YouTuber.
Right.
But you sent it to me, so I took it serious and I'm like, oh shit, like this is actually
pretty good.
Yeah.
Sometimes, uh, depending on who it comes from, it has a little bit more meaning.
Yeah.
100% accurate.
Yeah.
That makes it, that makes a big difference.
Yeah.
I just went live on facebook just
off my phone uh we are going to improve the quality of this and you're going to be able to
hear it directly through the microphone and everything else i just wanted to pop on here
for just a second you won't be able to hear the conversation that we're having but i just want to
pop on here for just a second let people know we are live on youtube so come come check us out on
the youtubes it's powerproject.live come check us out on the YouTubes. It's powerproject.live.
Come check us out on powerproject.live.
We're going to be on with motivational speaker Eddie Pinero.
Bye.
Well, fam.
Done deal.
All right.
Well, let's give this guy a call and let's see what the fuck's going on.
All right.
Yeah.
Yeah. I might have to text him and let him know we're calling from another number
I'm going to text him saying
calling from another number
with FaceTime.
FaceTime.
FaceTime audio.
Yeah.
We were supposed to get on a little earlier with him, but I let him know that we were going to be a little bit late.
You know, my head, you know head doesn't work well with time.
I'm like, oh, yeah, you know, we're going to do the podcast at 10,
which means I need to be here at 930 for that to work the right way,
and I never do that.
Hello?
Hey, how's it going, Eddie?
Mark, good. How are you?
Hey, man, really excited to have you here on the show today. Appreciate you taking the time.
Likewise. I'm pumped. Thanks for reaching out.
Yeah, so I wanted to talk to you because I've been, you know, a lot of people nowadays are trying to seek out motivation.
trying to seek out motivation. A lot of people are trying to be entrepreneurs or have, you know,
their own work, kind of their own way, even when they're working for some of these corporate companies are allowing individuals to have a little bit more freedom with their schedule,
where it's not just your regular nine to five. People are getting into these routines where
they, you know, in the morning, they'll have some coffee and then they kind of start to think about their day.
And as they're thinking about their day, a lot of times they're stumbling onto YouTube.
They're stumbling onto Instagram, some form of social media, and they're seeking out some motivation to get them to get their day started.
And, you know, we got kind of two trains of thought.
We got some people who are like, man, that shit is corny as hell like i would never listen i don't need it i don't need any motivation
and then you got the other side where people are like you know what i'm so appreciative that
there's some channels out there like yours that get me fired up i listen to you every single
morning with my cup of coffee and it keeps me going and uh I've been watching a lot of your stuff and I've been
very intrigued. Why don't we kind of start out with kind of just how this started. Like,
what's your background? Yeah, absolutely. So it's a complete axis, I mean, to be honest. And by the
way, there's someone outside the doors using like a buzzsaw. so if I get cut off, that's why.
But no, I went to college, political science, and sort of went into the corporate world after that.
But creatively, it wasn't there for me.
It was torture to get up and do the cubicle thing and be there every day,
and I knew I wanted to be more creative with what I was doing.
So I started to slowly build a
studio and start writing songs. And that's ultimately what I left my job to do. I started
to write songs and play shows around Boston. And as you can imagine, the money, it's different,
right? When you're starting to write songs versus, you know, a job in the financial industry.
write songs versus, you know, a job in the financial industry.
And the first video I put out was kind of like, I called it Ode to Excellence.
It was a promise to myself, like, Eddie, yeah, this sucks, man, but don't run back to that.
You know, stick with it.
And what's the worst that could happen?
I believe I wouldn't let myself.
And three, four years down the road, here we are.
Oh, that's very cool. So were you uh, with your music career?
Were you were you trying to what were you trying to do with your music?
Were you trying to do anything specific or was kind of more for fun?
Uh, it was sort of I was exploring really so I did a lot of like singer-songwriter stuff
With an acoustic guitar but pivoted, you know, the first two years of this channel, Your World Within.
I mean, I composed most of the background music myself.
Oh, cool.
And it allowed me to kind of take what I love to do, just do it a different way.
That's what it was.
It was about a year of blogging, writing music, just putting it all out there, seeing what's up.
Are you editing some of this stuff yourself?
Yeah.
It's actually something I need to let go of, but I love it.
I'm procrastinating with that, but yeah, I start to finish the process.
Yeah.
I mean, you're trying to hit a certain point, and so therefore it's something that you have
a very specific
message uh that you want to be said in a specific way so who better to edit it than you exactly
you go into like a studio and record it or is it just like uh at your house off your phone or off
a microphone or how you doing it um sort of twofold so i have a studio set up in my condo but the way i've sort of built it up over
the years is that it's very mobile so when i go on a trip or travel i can take you know the major
components put them in a bag and it moves with me so i really love this statement that you had um
a lot of the stuff that i've listened to um it just talks in general about, you know, not copying and, uh,
and, and being different and, um, a very tough thing to do. Cause even when you try to be
different, you end up being the same as kind of somebody else, uh, in, in some, in some way.
Um, but being original is a, is a really, is a really huge thing. You think about, um,
Henry Ford or Mark Zuckerberg, or, I mean,
any of these people that we put up on a pedestal, uh, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, any of
these people that we remember in history and make monuments for, um, you can say this or that about
them positive or negative, but a lot of times they're, or even Donald Trump, uh, a lot of times,
uh, the one thing that remains similar about all of them is that they're original.
Right. Absolutely. Yeah.
You gotta be okay with sort of stepping out and being called crazy for a little
bit. Right. And until it's normal, that's just the way it works.
Yeah. Stepping outside of your, your comfort zone.
One of the lines that you said, I really liked a lot.
You said, stop waiting in lines for stuff that you don't actually want.
I really,
I really liked that line a lot.
Can you elaborate on that a little bit?
Yeah.
So I,
that came from sort of the idea,
and this,
this ties back into my corporate days where I'm fighting and working really hard, competing with these people for these promotions and trying to get these things that I'm quote-unquote supposed to have.
But I don't want that shit.
You know what I mean?
And then you take a step back.
Why am I exhausting all my energy, all my time pursuing this stuff?
I just don't remember where I want to be.
And that was kind of an eye-opening realization.
Like, you need to reprioritize, man.
Yeah, a lot of people of today, you know, they're not really, I mean, everybody wants to make more money.
I mean, that's very obvious, but a lot of the younger crowd of today, they're not really working for a promotion.
They want more ownership is almost not the
right word. Uh, they, they want to feel like, uh, they want to make more of an impact really.
And they want to feel important in the job that they have. It's not really just about,
uh, making money. So that line, you know, stop waiting in lines, you know, for shit that you
don't want really makes a ton of sense because if you're, if you're, um, doing all these things for a promotion,
maybe you're wasting your time and maybe figuring out how to just make a bigger impact
might be a better way to get that result. And then some.
Absolutely. And you can't fake that, right? You can't make an impact, uh, with, you know,
with something you don't care about.
So they go hand in hand.
How often are you doing some of these videos?
I'm trying to do about one a week and mixing it up,
kind of keeping the creative juices flowing.
I think over the next six months or so, I'm going to try.
And I got a crew together and start traveling places and
creating short kind of cinematic films that tie into the inspirational piece um so it's very spur
of the moment I always felt like you know one of the things that I do or the thing that I do is I
share my experiences um in my lessons learned and it's difficult to fake that. It's not something that I'm able to do or want to do.
So, um, you know, I got to make sure that I'm putting myself in the right position,
uh, to, to create art that resonates with people that matters.
Um, and so that's, uh, where we came to that decision to kind of step outside of the comfort
zone and try something new.
Your motivation from this, uh, stemmed from you wanting to motivate yourself, right?
Absolutely.
I've always looked at it like an electronic diary.
I mean, I've screwed up a million times.
You know, I've experienced certain things.
I've tried certain things.
And I think to be able to put that in a way that I can reflect on
and other people might learn from, that's always been the goal.
Yeah, and a lot of the things that I've done here at the gym, you know, super training gym, the gym that I have, um, you know, the gym is free and people are always kind
of like blown away by that, but it's really the reason why it's free is to keep me motivated.
We have a lot of new people that come in here, um, with a lot of good, fresh, positive new energy.
And that keeps me going. That keeps me strong. That makes me want to push harder and harder.
What are some things that keep you motivated? Because I know a lot of people are
kind of in search of that. That's a common question. How do you stay motivated?
Yeah. Well, I think it's really being passionate about the long-term goal.
You know, when I think of the motivation, to your point, there's two different ways to look at it.
Sometimes I need the, you know, the Gary Vee kick in the ass, you know, do work.
Right.
It's just what the doctor ordered.
But, you know, like anything that doesn't sustain itself over a long period of time, you have to really, uh, want what you're chasing. Otherwise, you know, you get tired and you lose your
motivation. So, um, I think it's kind of restructuring goals, always raising the bar,
but making sure that I'm doing what, or what I'm doing aligns with what's meaningful to me.
Um, and I've found that that's the recipe kind recipe. If you're jumping out of bed excited in the morning,
you won't have any issue being motivated.
Right.
And what are some, like, are there videos that you watch?
Do you end up, like, you know, kind of checking out, you know,
other people's videos to get that motivation?
I do, yeah.
I watch a lot of motivational channels.
I like music kind of motivates me, too. A lot of running stuff.
I'm getting into trail running. And there's a lot of really good cinematic
running movies that make me want to run through a wall.
But it kind of comes from everywhere.
Yeah, I just got into a little bit of running myself.
I'm a big boy. I used to be 330 pounds, so I'm down in like around in the 230 range.
So I have a much more comfortable body weight to try to start running.
You run often?
Yeah, that's kind of my daily routine.
I feel like running does something to your brain.
That desire to push forward, I think, is a thing when you're running.
Do you end up kind of thinking of some of these speeches and stuff almost while you're running?
So many of them, yeah.
Because I agree.
It kind of parallels life.
It parallels business.
Like, you get out what you put in.
I mean, that's the formula for everything. So
running a hill is so, uh, so black and white, you know, it's like, especially like a trail run.
It's like, I'm going to run to like the end of this trail, or sometimes they kind of come in
like a circle or whatever. And, uh, you're like, I'm going to run to the top of that hill, you know, as hard as I can. And I really like that aspect of it.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I wrote an article about that.
There's no lesson in the world that running uphill can't teach you.
And it's been interesting, too, since I moved from Boston to the Miami area.
And sort of the heat here is a totally different factor.
So you leave,
you finish the run and you feel like,
uh,
you just performed a miracle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It gets,
it gets insanely hot down there.
Right.
I mean,
you got the humidity,
right?
I mean,
Massachusetts is humid though too,
but not nearly like Miami.
Oh yeah.
Miami is kind of a different beast.
I mean,
like anything you
get used to it, but it's definitely part of, uh, changes the equation a bit.
So the big focus for you now is, you know, to obviously grow the social media, grow the YouTube
channel. Um, and, uh, how are you kind of trying to turn some of this into, into a business? Is
it through like motivational speeches around the country or how's some not looking yeah it's funny so my my priority is this was decided kind of early on
was that youtube is going to be the crux of my business right and and if you establish yourself
your platform your credibility uh avenues open up and so you know there's a lot of business
opportunities they haven't really pressed
the pedal to the floor.
I've just been investing everything in the platform.
And now I'm at the point where that's changing.
And I'm doing a lot of speaking.
I'm putting a lot of the speeches and stuff on iTunes, on Spotify, creating videos, helping
people with their marketing campaigns, writing speeches for execs of certain companies.
So it's pretty diversified.
And it's funny because, again, a lot of it's not stuff that I set out to do.
It just kind of evolved and I loved it and found that I was good at it.
And that's sort of how things played out.
Well, yeah, if you just set out to be a motivational speaker,
then maybe it wouldn't be so motivating.
You know, people might be like, well, you know,
what's this guy talking about?
Because it might not be said with the same passion.
Exactly.
Yeah, there's nothing there.
And you see that from time to time, for sure.
You know, a lot of times, too,
I get people asking me questions about staying positive.
You know, they're like, you know, how do you, for you nowadays,
I'm sure it's easier for myself where I'm at in my life, I'm 41 years old and I've had some
success in my life. So it's, it's easier for me to stay positive at this point. My kids are,
uh, you know, I have a 10 year old daughter and a 14 year old son. So like we're, we're out of the
stage, uh, of, uh, my kids being, uh, being a big stressor in my life,
and they don't affect my sleep and some of those things, you know.
That's a beautiful thing.
Yeah, yeah, it's a great thing.
So how do you stay positive, not really nowadays,
but how do you stay positive in the early going,
and how do you recommend people to stay positive when just shit ain't going so good?
Yeah, I think as you grow it's it's not that it's easier to stay positive because the problems change it's just your perspective shifts i think it's funny i was actually in a video on this
because it's the question i get asked more than anything like see how do you stay positive all
the time listening to those you're always so. And it's like, no one is positive all the time. That's impossible. What you learn is that when bad
things happen, it's part of the process. It's not something to dwell on. It's not a reflection of
you as an individual. It doesn't mean you're a loser. It means, look, this is part of the process.
This is what separates the people that make a difference from the people that don't. Some
people quit, some people don't. Here's your hurdle. What do you do? And that mindset really
helped me to just kind of not internalize it, but take it for what it is and cast it.
And it allows you to sort of push it out of your psyche and move on and enjoy the things that
matter. I noticed there was also some stuff that you talked about in terms of, you know, being perfect.
And I think a lot of people are kind of worried about the message that they might put out or the product that they might put out or just any of those number of things, the book or the blog or any of those things.
And they might be paralyzed by wanting to do the best possible job that they can.
And it might hinder them from, you know, releasing this information or releasing this product.
And you kind of teach people like, hey, man, you know, don't you don't really worry about it being perfect.
That's kind of a it's almost more of a myth to have things be perfect when you're when you're just getting started.
Yeah, I remember, you know, in the first year, I sort of hit under that
perfectionist thing. Oh, this isn't perfect. This isn't perfect. I won't put it out.
But that's sort of a myth that there is no perfect. You have to be, if you want to be
successful, you have to be vulnerable. And you have to understand that no matter what you do,
people are going to say you suck. People are going to say it's not good. People are going
to criticize you. And the only way to avoid that is to stay in the room and
never leave, right? No one wants that. So it's similar to what we were discussing where you have
to see the big picture and understand it's part of the process. You can have people criticize you
and do big things, or you can stay away from that and never do anything of significance.
What's kind of a weakness of yours?
You mentioned that you run.
Do you like to drink or you like to eat shitty food or do you have a vice that you wish you
could be more motivated, be more dedicated towards or against?
I think definitely room for improvement in the in the diet area for sure
everybody i think yeah definitely and like you know mentally i'm like well i run all the time
sometimes i run 10 miles a day yeah you rationalize it to yourself right exactly? Exactly. Exactly. So that's one area I want to work in and also
gain some bulk up a little bit, gain some weight. So that's something that I need to
need to get around to. Yeah. Do you, do you lift weights?
Very minimal for, for what I do. I do a lot of core work, a lot of light circuit training,
but you know, mostly, mostly running. You can get a lot of bang for your buck, uh, adding in some, uh, squats or deadlifts.
You know, I, I would advise, you know, you try to go, try to go to a gym that has somebody
that has some knowledge.
Um, you don't have to do it that often and you would get a lot out of it.
They could help put on a lot of size.
We were just talking to somebody yesterday, my, uh, a good friend of mine, Jason Kalipa. Um, he's a, uh, former CrossFit games champion. And he had a friend
that was like a buck 50. And, uh, the guy wanted to put on some size and Jason's like, man, we got
to just get you squatting. So the guy, you know, uh, started doing five sets of five squats. And
I think now he was like one 75 Just feels better. Feels a little more
substantial. Just has a little bit more muscle. It's not like, you know, he's going to be on the
cover of muscle and fitness or anything, but you can get a lot out of, uh, it's, it's just like
running. I mean, man, if you get some people running or even walking, um, man, a little bit
can go a long way. So something like that might be, uh, something to look into. Yeah. Sounds like a perfect starting point.
Maybe I can pick your brain a little bit.
Yeah. Come out to California sometime and get in here at super training gym.
Absolutely. It's not sacramental, right?
Yeah, that's right. Yeah. What's a,
what's something that you've learned over the last couple of years that you
maybe weren't aware of before.
That's kind of like a an awakening or
uh kind of has you uh almost enlightened in some in some way um i think uh the biggest thing for me
was if you don't care about what you're doing like if you are the one that makes or breaks you, you know,
and until you truly set out on your own, it's sort of eyeopening. Um, you know, a lot of the people
that I was surrounded with hanging out with how quickly they sort of dissipate. And it's, it's you
a very small circle and sort of your mission and your task. Um, and I think understanding that and being able to utilize what's around me
and sort of separate acquaintances
versus the people you need in your life,
your network,
has been a really eye-opening thing.
Yeah, it's interesting you mentioned
having the music background
and then having the music
to be kind of tinkering with in the background
and making your own music for your videos.
I mean, that's definitely, uh, you know, a motivator.
That's definitely like a driving force.
Um, on this podcast with me, uh, is my sidekick, Andrew and Andrew has been, uh, very attached
to photography and he's been very much attached to even just listening to podcasts. So,
and then he, he started doing a lot of videos for me, um, here at the gym, uh, just training videos
and those kinds of things. And then when an opportunity came to start podcasting, it really
blended together. And now he doesn't feel like he's really working. He feels like he's just part
of something fucking cool and he likes to pour a lot of time into it.
That's awesome.
I love when things work out like that, right?
Yep.
Yeah, I say I'm one of the lucky ones.
I get to wake up every day and do what I love to do.
That's awesome, man.
Yeah, it ends up making a big difference.
Do you tend to read a lot?
I do, yeah, I read quite a bit.
You got some good books that you read in the last couple months or last...
Yeah, the last...
You got any books that you would recommend
that people might like?
Yes, I'm working through a book called Switch now
that talks about sort of change.
Jonathan Haidt's idea about the elephant and the rider and sort of appealing to the emotional and analytical parts of your brain to both influence yourself and get things done.
So that's been a good read.
I always mention Relentless by Tim Grover because that book was just as far as just sheer mindset and the
willingness of, uh, it was unbelievable. Um, well, I read Jordan Peterson's 12 rules of life. I just
thought through that. It was really good. That guy's a badass. He is unbelievable.
It amazes me that some people don't like that guy. I don't get it. I like him a lot.
Yeah.
I feel like if you truly listen to what he's saying,
it's hard not to like him.
I think there's a stigma around him that's misunderstood.
You know,
you were talking about the book switch and you mentioned the word change.
And that's something I'm obsessed with because I think that's really hard for people to do, you know, to really, to really try to truly change, um, you know, who you were.
And, uh, because, you know, ultimately when you, when you make a lot of changes and it, and it starts to turn into, uh, something big and it starts to turn into, maybe you're not even no longer looking like yourself,
then it really is not just a bunch of small changes. It really literally is a change and
you're like a changed person in a lot of ways, whether it be you overcame drug addiction,
obesity, any of these things. And I really, when I see that in people, I really admire that because
it just takes a lot, it takes a lot of work to change yourself from what you were and the
direction you were going in and just leave it behind forever. Exactly. I agree. There's a phrase,
the weight doesn't drive the boat. And that's always at home with me
because when I think about change,
what always holds me back
is you identify with
the person you were yesterday.
And you almost feel like an imposter
stepping into this new role.
It's like, well,
my friends don't see me as that.
My family doesn't see me as that.
They know the old me.
I know the old me.
And it's just completely letting go of that
and knowing that nothing is tying you back to what you were.
And so that's important, too.
What do you think is something that, you know, some simple steps that people can do to try to keep them more disciplined, more motivated?
What are some simple steps you think that people could
work on? Is there anything in particular? Meditate? Go for a run? You know, I'm not sure.
You got any suggestions there? Yeah, either of those. You know, I've run quite a bit, but I think
a big thing is keeping it small. You know, when you set small goals, small achievable steps, whether it's one, two, or three
a day, and you knock those out, you build momentum. And you start to identify yourself as someone who
gets things done, as someone who conquers what's in front of you. And it matters how you view
yourself. You know, one of my favorite quotes, confidence is earned. You have to see yourself do it day in and day out.
And then you start to embody that.
But before you do that, you've got to put yourself in a position to win.
So I would say someone looking to make that change,
wake up every morning and create goals that you can nail, that you can crush.
That makes a lot of sense.
And do you think that you mentioned small
goals? Do you think these small goals can really almost look like tasks rather than actual goals,
like let's say washing your car? I think sometimes a tattoo, yeah. And there's been,
you know, studies done about just the impact of a simple checklist and just the idea of crossing something off and feeling like you're accomplished.
That's an imperative realization.
If you don't feel like you're moving forward, it's very tough to have that confidence.
I believe heavily in that, too, because it doesn't have to be this huge thing. I think when it comes to exercise, there's so many barriers of entry that people, you
know, some of them are legitimate and some of them are made up in people's heads.
You know, they don't, they don't want to go through the hard work.
They don't want to get sore.
They're afraid, you know, they don't know how to do it.
They're going to get injured.
There's a price.
There's time.
You know, time is always the one that people uh people always
throw up these barriers but when we start to take those barriers away uh kind of reminds me of the
uh of the rap battle that uh eminem gets into an eight mile where he just diffuses and takes away
all all the ammunition from the other rapper and the other guys left to set to say nothing and i think
When it comes to a lot of these goals if we can break down the barriers of entry into these goals
Then we will have nothing to bitch about and we can just get our shit done when it comes to
Something like washing your car
getting a haircut
um, just
The things that you have to do they can't those things like they can't be a goal, like dropping your kids off at school or something.
Cause it's just, uh, it's too routine, you know, using the bathroom.
I mean, it can't, it can't be like that, but, uh, I agree.
A checklist is, is a great way to start.
And how good does it feel when you look at it and you, you know, you put a check next to it, you check that thing off your list.
Yeah. Fantastic. look at it and you you know you put a check next to it you check that thing off your list yeah fantastic and the idea is and growth bigger bigger picture i mean the the benchmarks grow as you grow so it won't be the same you know sort of trivial things uh you started out with
yes it's all about uh figuring out a way some sort of way to gain some momentum.
Absolutely.
Eddie, were you always a good public speaker?
No, absolutely not.
No, in fact, you know, I think about, I actually just gave a TED Talk where I mentioned a specific example where I went up as one of the first talks
I've ever done.
And it was mediocre at best.
And I left and I immediately wanted to quit.
But again, sort of similar to what we talked about, you just got to keep doing it.
You have to keep putting yourself out there.
But it's definitely absolutely something I've grown into.
It's still growing, right?
Every time I do it, I get a little bit better.
Awesome.
Yeah, motivational speaking is tough.
It's almost like in some way going to see a comedian,
where the guy in the front row has got his arms folded.
It's like, okay, make me laugh, motherfucker.
It's like, okay, make me motivated.
That's got to be really hard
to get into the psyche.
Yeah, it's almost like acting.
You kind of go into character.
Yeah, you got to figure out a way
to get people's attention.
Who are some of your favorite motivational speakers?
That's a good question i i think it like i said it does depend on what i'm looking for i i kind of bucket eric thomas and et together um sort of the uh did i say eric thomas and et
um eric thomas and some of these guys that are,
Gary is what I meant to say,
kind of like the
more progressive
in-space stuff.
I love that stuff.
And then sometimes
they go more towards
the philosophical
side of things
where,
you know,
the Sam Harrises,
the Jordan Petersons,
which a lot of people
don't look at them
and think it's motivation,
but I feel like
when you can take
both worlds
and kind of blend them, it gives you a really cool perspective on things um so that's kind of my
my uh my approach i picked from a lot of different baskets eddie has anybody ever uh whether it be
online or in person just come up to you and say why should i listen to you like what what
accomplishments have you done that's going to really push this motivational speech to the next level?
You know what I got that a lot was starting off a YouTube channel.
I have 15,000, 20,000 subscribers, which is funny, too, because obviously that's the first thing on your mind.
You're still sort of growing as an individual, learning about the platform, learning about your business.
And so, you know, fittingly, that's the question that would come up every once in a while.
Damn trolls.
And, you know, my response was always like, you know, this is my experience.
I don't know everything.
This is what I've learned.
This is the action that I took.
And it's my approach to life, take it or leave it, my friend.
Right. Right.
Yeah.
Hey, you know what?
It was great having you on the show.
Andrew, you got any other questions for him?
No, that's it, man.
Yeah.
Thanks for your time today, man.
I appreciate it.
Thank you, guys.
Yeah, I really appreciate it, man.
Have an awesome day, and we'll catch up with you later.
All right. Take care.
Thanks again.
Cool. That was, that was, uh, that was cool. Get some, uh, a little bit more information from him.
Yeah. I liked his response. You know, he's um, some, some people are interesting, uh, the way not everybody is like insanely well-rounded when it comes to, uh, conversation, you know, um, my guess is that he probably hasn't done a lot of podcasts.
Um, and so therefore, you know, in asking him some of these, uh, questions, he didn't really like, he didn't really dive into them that hard.
He did give us some answers and some insight into them, but, um, it goes to show you there's, there's a lot of different ways to be good at quote unquote public speaking. There's a lot of different versions of it.
Yeah.
There's a, uh, a version of it that would have you do a Ted talk.
I bet his Ted talk was probably fucking awesome.
Um,
we'll have to check it out.
Yeah.
We'll have to check it out.
He probably,
he probably knocked it out of the park,
but I did a great job.
Um,
there's talking that way.
There's talking in front of a camera.
There's talking on live television.
There's talking,
uh,
you know,
here,
like a podcast style,
radio style, live podcast, here like a podcast style, radio style.
Live podcast.
Yeah, live podcast.
There's a lot of different versions of it.
Talking in your car with no one else around is one way, you know, and you could probably deliver a pretty good message that way.
But like talking on like the street corner or something might be harder, right?
Yeah, absolutely. And part of the reason why I've been trying to be consistent with a lot of these things is that so I'm prepared for just about anything.
When we did the thing with bodybuilding.com out at the Arnold Classic and did that deadlift seminar, I looked around and I sized the thing up.
I'm like, okay, I got a megaphone.
Here we go.
As long as people can hear me.
Yeah.
Then, so that, that was different.
You know, each thing is going to be different.
That one, I couldn't really give a really, I couldn't give a powerful speech through a megaphone.
Right. speech through a megaphone with, uh, a thousand people trying to work out, um, and, and simultaneously
running a deadlift competition.
Yeah.
Uh, but what I could do is I could announce when people were up or when people did a good
job and I can kind of make fun of people.
Like I made a lot of jokes and just was cracking on people and was saying, you know, a bunch
of bro gym stuff like, Hey, this guy's sumo deadlifting, he's cheating, you know.
You read the crowd and you reacted to it.
Right.
You evolved, I guess you can say.
Adapted, that's the word I meant to say.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You adapt to what's going on.
And that's a really key thing.
And for anybody that listens to this podcast or anybody that wants to get on a podcast,
of this podcast or anybody that wants to get on a podcast, um, you need to be, you need to be prepared to really elaborate and kind of go, you know, go, go kind of deep into stuff and
don't be afraid to shift the topic a little bit towards what the hell it is that you want to talk
about, because sometimes there might not be a lot to elaborate on. Somebody said, you know,
Hey, you know, you squatted a thousand pounds. What was that like? If I just said heavy,
well, you know, they know, they know it's heavy. I'd have to say something more along the lines of,
you know, it felt really good. It was a body of work. It's something I worked really hard towards.
It took me, you know, 20 years to be able to build up the strength towards that.
I made a lot of sacrifices in my personal life.
I made a lot of sacrifices with my health.
I could have even taken years off my life.
And it was really fucking dangerous.
I could have died doing that.
That's a way different message than being like, yeah, man, it was heavy.
Right? Yeah. Although I did like his response than being like, yeah, man, it was heavy. Right?
Like, yeah.
Yeah.
Although I did like his response to saying like, take it or leave it, like the information,
but it would have been cool to, you know, like, well, what else have you done?
Right.
Right.
And I think, I think, uh, he kind of just answered that by saying he, he sort of just
fell into it and he's got some momentum and he's just going to kind of keep, uh, keep cruising with it. Um, there's a lot of, there's a lot of people out there like that. You
know, you got, um, uh, and I, and the whole point of, in talking to him, uh, was that I was attracted
to some of the videos, some of the message that he had, and I'm attracted to a lot of the other
guys that are out there too. I'm attracted to a lot of men. Anyway, uh, I'm attracted to a lot of
the information that's out there. A lot of the message that people have, um, like the Mulligan
brothers, there's, there's a bunch of dudes that are just savages when it comes to like editing
these videos together and, uh, they're just executing really well. So I'd love to get more
of these people on the podcast, uh, communicate with them because I just, I think it's important.
I mean, that's one of the reasons why I had Andy Frisella on the show.
Andy Frisella is multifaceted.
I mean, fuck man, when we get them here live, it'll, it'll, it'll be different too.
But, uh, you know, he's somebody that there's so much conversation you can have with them.
It's almost hard to kind of pin down and he's such a good speaker,
but he's a good speaker all the way across the board.
If he, if he was in the store here at the gym and he was, uh,
he just happened to show us how to sell a slingshot.
Well, our mouths would fucking hit the floor because he's good at speaking, period.
It doesn't matter what it's about or what it is. And a lot of that for him came from the background
and the experience of running a supplement store. And it being part of his livelihood,
convincing somebody that glutamine needed to be part of their routine, needed to be part of their
regimen or protein powder or whatever it might be.
Is there anything else that you did other than just speaking in front of people,
or speaking into your phone in front of other people, like not really giving a fuck about them,
but is there anything else that you did other than just doing it to get better about speaking in front of people?
I think the fastest way to get good at anything is to try to take the hardest
route.
If you don't have the,
if you don't have the courage to do that,
that's okay.
You can,
you can,
you could pussyfoot if you,
if need be.
Police found that to be a weird term,
pussyfoot.
It's probably a fetish.
Do you ever wonder where some of these sayings come from?
Like just try this on for size.
It's like, well, what if you work at like Foot Locker?
Yeah, try this on for what size?
Is it too small or too big?
Yeah, like I just, I was thinking about that the other day.
If the shoe fits, well, if the shoe fits where, I guess makes sense.
You know, there's a bunch of these.
Like there's, somebody might say there's more pizza over there than you can shake a stick at.
You're like, why can't I fucking shake?
I could, yeah, I could.
It doesn't matter how much is there.
Yeah.
But I think, like, I've actually looked a lot of these up.
I think shake a stick at means, like, you might be counting, like, one, two, and then you're like, 10, 11, 14, 18.
And you're like, fuck fuck i don't know how many
is there well what kind of pizza is it though um you know what i i love pizza right and i feel that
pizza gets messed up when you start throwing too much shit on it so i i just i love cheese pizza
i really do i don't mind getting it with other stuff on there.
I don't mind it being creative and it being different.
But you put pulled pork on there or something, and it's delicious.
But then it just changes the flavor.
Or barbecue anything.
Chicken at a lot of those places is just disgusting.
So that doesn't work that great.
Is it because they call it a pie at that point?
Yeah, I don't know.
Just pepperoni, mushrooms, and that's it.
Yeah, I like just cheese.
I like pepperoni.
I mean, I can mess with it too
if it has got other ingredients on it,
but I don't really like,
it's not really my,
I just, I hate when,
that happens to me with like ice cream too.
Like if you, if you have like vanilla ice cream, vanilla ice cream has a really great flavor to it.
And yeah, you could put some chocolate syrup on it or sprinkle some cinnamon on it.
I don't know if you ever tried to put honey on it.
That makes it taste really good.
Never tried.
Oh my God.
It's fucking great.
I like all those things but it kind
of like you miss the flavor of the vanilla yeah when you do too much yeah so like sprinkles or
some chocolate chips like i can get down with a lot of that but once you start to and then like
i you then you have to just go all in you got to go ben and jerry style and just have a thousand
things in there and then it kind of it's like a little kid when they take them to the, uh, they don't
understand flavor.
They don't understand like mixing flavors.
So they put, um, they'll take like the gummies, you know, put all the fucking gummies on top
and you're like, how do you put hard candy like that on top?
First of all, it's going to break your teeth.
Secondly, you just put
chocolate and peanut butter in there too that's disgusting those things don't match they don't
go together yeah we took jazz to one of those things and she like she did basically exactly
what you said and then topped it off with like a gummy shark on the very top of it i was like i
don't know how you're gonna eat that and kids don't give a fuck and you're gonna lose all your
teeth you know kids they they just they don't care they don And kids don't give a fuck. And you're going to lose all your teeth. You know, kids,
they,
they just,
they don't care.
They don't,
they don't,
um,
they're not like hampered or tied down to, uh,
any one thing.
Yeah.
And they lie all the time.
Little lying bucks.
Anyway,
guys,
uh,
that was our podcast for today.
We're going to bring this one in for a landing.
And,
uh, again, I'm going to the UK
and it is, what the fuck day is it today? It's the 8th of May. Oh, it's 2018, Andrew.
Damn. Dude, why didn't you say something? I lose track. I don't even, I usually don't know what
day it is. Dude, I've been living in the future. I thought it was 2020.
I was two years ahead of everybody.
You should have told me. You should have said
something. I wonder why my head's always in the
clouds. You're ahead of the game.
Damn. Hey, I saw
Avengers, by the way. That shit was pretty
cool. Have you seen it yet? I haven't seen it, so
for sure no spoilers right now.
Well, the guy at the end, you know.
Can't do it. Well, there's a guy in the beginning. And well the guy at the end oh can't do it was a guy in the beginning
and in the middle at the end yeah so it's uh yeah it's the eighth and tomorrow is the ninth
and i will be going on a plane a lot of people uh don't fully understand uh just how claustrophobic
i am but everybody might find out tomorrow when I got on a plane and I go, ah, how long is the flight?
Uh, it's forever.
It's like, it's like 20 hours or something, man.
I went to Japan.
I went to Australia years ago and, uh, I came back on those, those trips.
I was like, you know what?
I'm never doing that shit again but i have
a family now and you know it's for the kiddos and i'll do anything for those little bastards so
that's what we're doing i i'm really i gotta say i'm i'm really really excited i'm excited
uh you know for our whole family i think it'd be really cool and i'm also excited to
get to see the fans you know i, I'm going to body power.
Yeah.
That's going to be a big deal.
Um, I know the fans are going to be, are going to be pumped and, you know, like I'll, I'd
be lying if I said it doesn't make me feel good that, you know, there's been so many
people commenting and DMS and everything like, fuck man, you're coming to like, we can't
believe it.
Uh, it's kind of, of um it's inspiring you know to
know that uh what we've done here has reached so many people and got so many people fired up so
i'm pumped about it but getting on that plane's gonna be a bitch you're fine just get a nintendo
switch and play mario kart at least i'm less fat i should get nintendo switch what do i gotta do i
gotta buy but you gotta buy a bunch of shit, right? You're fine. Just get
the original
console thing and then just buy whatever
games you want and you're good to go.
It's pretty easy.
Alright, just go to Target.
Target, wherever. Best Buy.
Fucking buy it up. Do you need some sort of special
battery pack?
I'm pretty sure on your plane you'll have
an outlet to plug shit in so yeah
yeah you can just run off that power damn dude donkey kong just came out too what what yeah
strength is never weakness weakness is never strength catch you guys later