Mark Bell's Power Project - The Mindset Needed to Pursue Your Dreams || MBSS Ep. 48

Episode Date: June 11, 2023

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I don't know how you would be someone that could provide value to people unless you become like a material expert in something. The money side of things, I think, is unfortunately kind of a secondary thing. You know, what are some of the gifts that you might have? What are some of the things that you have? Or what are the things that you're interested in? That's what you want to try to lean into, because then you're not forcing yourself to do anything.

But once you're able to build that skill set out, then you might be able to have something that you can kind of cash in later on. And I don't mean like financially necessarily. You only know things that you're exposed to. And so it's very difficult to just be creative. Step one, if somebody, you know, they're working their eight to five because they're supposed to. How do you start to like kind of break away from that mindset? Making $80,000 a year is a blessing.

But I just think that sometimes we get kind of trapped by the dollar amount even. Even if you were making $120,000 or $150,000, that sounds cool, but what are you leaving on the table? There is apparently more than 40,000 of you that are listening to each episode of this podcast, but we only have, I think, 1,200 reviews on Spotify and iTunes. So if this podcast has brought benefit to your life, please go on Spotify and iTunes and give us a five-star review. It'll really help the podcast grow, and we'll continue to bring you this awesome free content on a daily basis.

Enjoy the episode. Welcome, everybody, to Saturday School, page 43. You might be listening to this on a Sunday because we work a week in advance. We're not a day late. We're a week in advance. You can thank us later. Send all checks to Mark Bell's Power Project. Thank you very much. So for today, I thought it'd be cool if we talked about a broke mindset and a monetization mindset and how you can kind of build a mind and build yourself up to a point where you can just be more valuable, whether it's to yourself, your significant other, the people around you,

and also maybe financially as well. But I think the financial side of things comes a little bit later because, at least in my own experience, I don't know how you would be somebody that's – I don't know how you would be someone that could provide value to people unless you become like a material expert in something. And maybe not even expert may not even be the right word, but you have to be able to provide value to people. When people go to your YouTube channel or when people get your newsletter or when people, however you are communicating with people, you have a real estate business or you do taxes or you're a trainer, a coach, no matter what you do, you have to figure out a way to provide value to people. But the money side of things I think is unfortunately kind of a secondary thing. And I think that that's where people's minds go to usually first. They start thinking about money right off the bat.

And I think that you're better off continuing to learn and grow and expand and that over time the money will come. I think there used to be a place where everybody used to go to where they could give themselves this amount of time and that was called college. give themselves this amount of time and that was called college. And I think that people thought that the education that they got from college was the thing that's going to provide them with a job opportunity that is going to pay them. It's going to, you know, the college they went to helped monetize their mind, helped them develop a skill set that they can now use in the world. And some of that is true, of course, especially when it comes to specific types of jobs, when it comes to being a doctor and some of these things. And you can also kind of find your passion while you're in college. I know many people, they start out with kind of a general degree and then they shift into learning more about,

maybe they shift into like a trade school or maybe they shift into something that they just really want to learn a lot more about, whether it be history or science or whatever it might be. And then maybe they go off into that field and that's where they start to make some money. But I want to back things up a little bit more and talk about the mindset first before I get into, you know, how much education and how someone should educate themselves. Because I think something that's lost is you hear people oftentimes say, oh, I don't understand why I don't teach that in school. I don't get it. Like, why isn't that taught at school? Most of the time when you say that, especially as a parent,

you have to say that into the mirror three times while you're looking at yourself, because usually that's something that you have to teach yourself at home. You have to teach, you have to, it has to be taught by you to your children, these things that you would love for the education system to communicate about. It's not ever going to happen. You know, the school's not ever going to talk to the kids about some of these things that we value in our society. Society changes too quick and school is really old and it's not nimble. It doesn't move. It doesn't change. Even with COVID and the different things that happen, it just never really changed it. They had some like online

stuff for a little bit. And I thought like, oh, this is kind of cool. Maybe school will make some changes and maybe they'll come back and be a little unconventional and maybe they'll actually listen to the children. But no, that never happened. Um, I, for example, uh, I can just, I don't want to sidetrack too much, but I can think back to, they were having all these meetings about, um, you know, schooling people from, you know, the computer or whatever, uh, homeschooling, you know, while, while, you know, the computer or whatever, uh, homeschooling, you know, while, while, you know, people are logging into the computer and listening to the teacher and so forth. And guess who was not part of some of these meetings? The kids that are being educated, the kids weren't part of it at all. It was just like counselors and parents and teachers. And I

was like, that's weird. There's not even a representative of of like the kids there's not like can't you get like five kids that everyone agrees like oh they're part of the student council or whatever bring them in there and get their thoughts because imagine if you heard from them and they were like hey this shit ain't working anyway another matter for another day um but I think something that has allowed, one of the reasons why I want to talk about this and why I'm passionate about it is because as I mentioned many times before, I grew up with a nice scenario. I had two parents that loved me, that cared about me. And not only did they love me and care about me, but they also nurtured and allowed for creativity. And they'd even kind of put things in

my head or they'd even say certain things like you can do anything, you know, you're, um, they wouldn't, they wouldn't lie about stuff. They wouldn't say you're great at something before I was great at it or before I was good at it. Um, but they would say like, hey, if you just work for it, don't forget that you can do that too. Whatever the thing was that I was looking at when I was young, my parents kind of reinforced that. I remember I've told this story a couple of times, but I remember telling my dad, I was like, one day I want to live in a castle. And he's like, is it going to have a moat? And I was like, what's a moat? He's like, a moat is like the body of water around the castle. So no one can get in. And then

you like can put dangerous fish or alligators in there. He's like, what are you going to have in the moat? I was like, oh, alligators, you know, it's going to have a drawbridge and all that kind of stuff. So my dad and mom, they were always, um, encouraging of those things rather than, oh, you know, people, listen, people don't really live in castles. Um, they, you know, they kind of have castles in like Ireland, but it's kind of novelty. That's something that's old and people don't, it's not, you know, they didn't, they didn't explain a bunch of shit to me that would block that from my mind. They allowed me to be creative and they just let me go with the flow. And then even when it came to school, when I wasn't really strong with certain stuff in school,

whether it be English or math or some of these things, reading comprehension, some of the stuff just kind of seemed to elude me. I was like a little slower than some of the other kids or just took me longer to finish things. And my parents just made it like no big deal. They were like, oh, well, that's just because you're a little bit different than some of the other kids and they're different than you in other ways, but we don't know what those ways are. You know, like it's obvious in school when you're having trouble with these, like it's obvious in school when you're having trouble with these things, it's obvious what you struggle with. But, you know, is that same, like, where is that kid at recess? You know, like, is that kid playing football with

you? Like, no, he's not. Right. Cause he knows that you'll kill him. You know, are you faster than that kid? Are you stronger than that kid? And it was always like, oh, yeah, okay. So, okay, different people have different strengths and different weaknesses. And I think this is where we can kind of get to the point. You know, what are some of the gifts that you might have? What are some of the things that you have? Or what are the things that you're interested in? What are the things that you're excited about?

And those things that you're excited about, that's what you want to try to lean into because then you're not forcing yourself to do anything. From the time I was really young, I started lifting. I don't think lifting was a passion for me at first. I think it became one later on. I started my body in motion and the body in motion wants to continue moving forward. And I started to like it. Normally you don't like something until you're like halfway good at it. Like how much are you going to like baseball when you go to play, play it with your friends and your friends are able to clobber the ball here and there, but you can't get ahold of it.

Like you're not going to really like it. But what about if you practice a little bit? What if dad or grandpa, you know, takes you to the backyard, shows you how to swing, shows you how to hold the bat a little bit better. And the next time you're with your friends, you crank a home run. You know, that's going to make you feel really good about yourself. And that's going to allow you to start to lean towards being able to build a skill set within a certain thing, in this case, baseball. But once you're able to build that skill set out, then you might be able to have something that you can kind of cash in later on. And I don't mean like financially necessarily, but we will probably get to that more towards the end of the show. But if you're good at baseball,

that could be something that you hang on to for a little while. Why would it be important for you to hang on to baseball? Because it can make you feel good about yourself. Remember, a lot of the times the stuff that we do physically is more for our mind and like our spirit than it is for our body. You would think, no, it's physical. It's my body. I'm training my body. Yes, you are training your body, but through the pathway of training your body, you're callusing and strengthening your mind. So you go through some stuff in baseball, you get better at it. How bad do you want it? How good do you want to be at this? All depends upon how interested you are in it. If you are interested in it, you're going to lean towards it more. If you're not that interested in it, you're going to be like, oh, I actually like playing basketball, I think, more. And then you might gravitate towards that.

And then you see how far you can push that. But I think that as a kid, you kind of, even as an adult, you kind of only know what's in front of you. You kind of only know what's around you. And your friend plays baseball. Your brother plays football. Your uncle played basketball. And so you're just thinking of those three things. Oh, my dad likes the 49ers or whatever football team it is.

So I'm going to play football because that's going to get my dad fired up. You're not thinking about what you actually like. Maybe that doesn't represent anything that you like at all. Maybe you don't even really care that much about a particular sport, but we tend to only be able to think what we're exposed to. And I was given an analogy a little bit earlier today, you know, 40 years ago or so, 30 years ago, before there was jiu-jitsu, the most well-meaning fighters in the world couldn't think of jiu-jitsu unless they were exposed to it or unless they got smoked by it. And jiu-jitsu changed the landscape of fighting forever. And maybe there's something now that we can't think of that will change the landscape of fighting again. I don't have any idea what that would be.

But who knows? It happened before and maybe something like that will happen again. And so jujitsu, like what is it? Well, it's a particular skill set to be able to take people out, to be able to control somebody else. To be able to control, originally it seemed like a lot of it was to be able to control someone that sometimes was more physical than you. And you can have a skill set that is probably just as mental as it is physical because you have to be able to think your way out of these positions and think your way into getting these people in these other compromising positions probably like almost like

i mean shit you got to think the whole time i didn't even really think about that sometimes i guess it becomes like instinctual after you've been doing it for like a long time but i mean a lot of sports are that way too but you know there so many sports are like things happen so fast. I know that things can happen really fast in jujitsu as well. But I think there are ways to hold on to each other and to kind of slow things down for a moment as you get an opportunity to breathe or think, depending on how good the other guy is in comparison to you. I know I wouldn't be able to think at all if I was rolling with Andrew because I don't have any skill set. If I was rolling with Nsema, it'd be 10 times worse. I would just be like, oh, they put my arm over here.

Oh, my face is over there. Oh, now I'm getting choked this way. Now my leg's going that way. You can't really even, you can't even really think. But back to the point is that you only know things that you're exposed to. And so it's very difficult to just be creative. And what I want to encourage people to do, maybe as a kid, you weren't encouraged to try different things. Maybe as a kid, you were discouraged a lot of times. Maybe you went to go do something and you made a fool of yourself. You

went to go play baseball. You swung at one ball and like you hurt yourself, like hurt your back or something or the ball hits you and you cried and everybody made fun of you. Like you're a big baby. You're 12 years old. What are you crying about? It's like, well, baseball freaking hurts. And maybe you had a bad experience. What I want to encourage you is to start to try to really find different things because you don't know how they can change your life.

really find different things because you don't know how they can change your life. You can go from having a broke mindset and not understanding things that are outside your box that you were born into. And I'm not even saying that the box is necessarily broken, but it doesn't allow you the growth mindset that's necessary to be able to have a mindset that can continue to grow over time. And that's kind of what I mean by monetizing your mind. Like let's make this mind grow, and over time it's going to become more and more valuable. And will it ever turn into money? It probably can, but we'll have to think about that

after we already acquired the skill sets. Yeah, and I just, you know, as a kid, if you're not encouraged, you're almost ostracized if you do try other things. All my uncles, you know, everyone played football, and when I wanted to play soccer, it was like, that's a girl's sport. You know, you're not tackling anybody. Like, don't be a little wuss. And it's like, but I don't want to do that thing.

Like, I love watching the niners play and stuff but like i'm actually kind of good at soccer but then you know everyone makes fun of me for it so then i i don't do it and whether or not that that carry that i carry that with me but a lot of people who aren't encouraged to you know have the monetization mindset they do carry it into their adulthood and stuff so how can like, like, what, what do you think is like kind of step one, if somebody, you know, they're working their eight to five, cause they're supposed to, you know, maybe they don't want to. So like, how do you start to like, kind of break away from that mindset? Yeah, I think it's, uh, you know, I've heard, uh,

Jordan Peterson say something like this. He said something to the effect of that, um, Jordan Peterson say something like this. He said something to the effect of that pursuing happiness is a luxury, but pursuing what you are, I'm losing the word, but basically he meant like by pursuing the thing that you love that's like a moral obligation it's a moral obligation to pursue the thing that you love because you're going to find a lot of life's answers in there so what does that mean does that mean you just quit your nine to five and like i'm gonna follow my dream bro i don't think so i think what it does mean is that you simultaneously you have your job that you have you have uh an obligation you have a responsibility but it's going to be your moral obligation over a period of time to pursue what really fills up your cup what really fills up your cup, what really fills up your heart. Is it helping other people? Is it,

um, do you really love, do you really love running, but you literally don't have like a lot of time for it? You know, do you, cause some things that we, some things that we like and we love, it's kind of hard to get good at them unless we have a specific amount of time for them. I know we know that you can slowly but surely get better at something. We do it once or twice a week. We know that, but it's kind of, it's a more difficult route. And that's the route of somebody who's super patient and super mature. Most of the time, we're neither one of those. So we choose to go to jujitsu like four times a week, or we choose to run every day. You know, like I'm just, I, I run every day, not because it's optimal. I run every day because it's like what's in my head and it feels good for my brain to go do that. But yeah, somebody

that does have the nine to five and they don't have the luxury to go around and chase what makes them happy. Uh, you're going to want to still think about like, what is it? What is the thing that you want to do? I think if you're to back way up, you're to back way up and you're to think, what's this going to look like in like 10 years? Again, think of your way into lifting. You know, I'll just use my own powerlifting career as an example. If I would have took six months off from powerlifting and just reset and reloaded and rethought and just didn't power, just thought I just didn't powerlift and wanted to pursue raw lifting a little bit more, I would have hit every goal that I had and then some. Like I just know that I would have, I've done things like that before, but I did it when I was younger. At this time around, I was like, I ain't waiting around, man. I'm going to give this, I'm going to give this another go.

Meanwhile, in the previous training cycle, in the previous training cycle, I blew out my pec. And so when I came back to powerlifting and I benched 578, that was after I tore a pec for like the second or third time or whatever it was. In training for the 578 bench, I slightly tore my tricep and I still was able to go to the contest and be able to hit that 578 bench. and be able to hit that 578 bench. And when I went for 600, I gave a pretty decent push on it, but once the weight of that kind of hit me, it was too much, and I tore my pec again. But again, if I would have just pulled back a little bit, if I would have just taken my time and said,

how do you really want this to end? How do you really want this powerlifting career of yours to end? You want to end it with an exclamation point or do you want to end it with like, no, it's pretty cool you did 578, but it's not 600. You know, there's, you have control over these things and anybody that's in any sport, anyone that's in any, it's even worse than that a lot of times. A lot of times, so at least for me, at least I, that sounds so stupid to say some of this, but at least I was already Mark Bell. At least I was already like, I was already secure. I was already making money. I already had the slingshot. I was already doing all these things. I was already somebody in power. They already did the things

that I wanted to do. There's some people that they just cannot, they cannot stop bench pressing. They cannot stop doing curls. They cannot stop doing tricep pushdowns and their elbows are killing them. Their body's killing them. Their body's telling them the last thing that we need is for you to do these exercises this week, you know, and they can't take a week or two off. Someone's shoulders bothering them and there they are, you know, and they can't take a week or two off. Someone's shoulders bothering them. And there they are, you know, doing bench and doing dips and doing pushups. I just got to work through the pain. And that's not the answer. The answer is to like, Hey, what would happen if I just took a big step back from this and just kind of reloaded with a little bit more information

with a little bit more knowledge. So again, kind of back to, you know, somebody having like a nine to five or somebody being in college and kind of just feeling like in a funk and they're not doing what they want to do. Just think about you can do what you want to do for a shorter period of time during the day and during the week than what it is you have to do for now. Then over time, you should be able to flip those things around to where now 70% of the time is you playing and doing and messing around with the things that you love. And 30% of the time is kind of the other stuff because there's always like some stuff that we don't have an opportunity to do.

But even as a kid, you think about it, you go to school, what percentage of the day is that? You know, you go to school, seems like forever. You leave at like 8 o'clock in the morning. You come back at 2 or 3 every day. And that's five days a week, every week, except for some time in the summer. And so that is really flip-flopped, right? Like that's you doing, maybe some kids really enjoy school, so there's that.

But it's a lot of kids probably doing things that they don't really want to do, they don't really love to do. And then on the other side of it, maybe they play volleyball, they do some stuff with their friends, but that volleyball practice is an hour. The time they got to hang out after school with their friends is 30 minutes. They hang out with their friend on the weekend every Sunday. It's like for three hours or something. It's like so minor compared to the amount of time they spend in school. So hopefully as you get older,

you can flip some of that around. I think that like a 90% of you doing what you want to do or you doing what you don't want to do. I think both of those are bad. I don't think that's enough. I don't think that's enough balance. Um, some people, you know, might say, well, I just want to rock it to the top. And so I'm gonna go 90% and do all the, I'm gonna wake up at four and those things are fine, but you got to kind of back yourself up from that even, and think the number one killer of humans is stress more so than cigarettes and more so than heart attacks and cancer, because it's all kind of lumped in there once you're stressed it makes your body uh makes it a lot harder for your body to

fight things off if you're super stressed most likely it's going to be harder to sleep and so if you even someone like a joe rogan who talks about like longevity it may be harder for somebody like that or someone who's driven like a jeff bezos or an elon mus it may be harder for somebody like that or someone who's driven like a jeff bezos or an elon musk might be harder for these guys to live longer i'll use jeff bezos as an example because i realize elon don't think really trains um but you would imagine that jeff bezos must have had some pretty stressful times in his life um rogan seems like he's ahead and seems like he's not super stressed, but you know, there are hundreds of millions of dollars. There are hundreds of millions of dollars that have been

generated by his show. And even, even the success that I've had, it would be foolish for me to not recognize like that's an extra stressor having employees and then, you know, trying to, yeah, have people work with you, have people work under you and things like that. And that communication, like those are all, those are all stressors. And then who you are, even in your community, who you are in your family. who you are in your family. Um, those are all things that can, it's kind of cool. Like if you're hovering around like the middle or the high end of the middle, those are all cool spots to be because someone could easily just a family member could be like, Oh, I'm going to get there too. You know? But when you're really killing it, you know, it's, it's like, it's a different thing. And it's, there can be, it doesn't have to be,

but there can be more stress with things like that. So things can become kind of unbalanced. But anyway, that 90, 10 is like, that's not something you want to mess with. You want to have it. You want to have your time commitment to the things that you don't want to do. It's probably going to be pretty high when you're young and you should be able to flip it as you get older but you're going to have to develop a skill set and you're going to have to develop a monetizable brain a monetizable mindset to have something that's valuable so you can flip that around yeah when you were paraphrasing what Jordan Peterson was saying in regards to like it's your obligation you, to kind of pursue this or whatever. I can't remember who else it was. It might've been Steven Pressfield. But basically it's kind

of like your duty, like you're put here on this earth for it. And, you know, talk about zooming out 10 years from now. Like when you were powerlifting, were you doing it for anybody else? Like period. No. And I think that's what drew people to it yeah so well that's that's amazing people like this guy doesn't care like he wears this weird hat and it's sideways or backwards or whatever the weird nonsense i was doing and rapping and just like just yeah just having fun it's for me yeah it was all for you when i was working on my photography it was because i didn't want to go back to my regular job like i I wanted to just break away from that. But even for myself in doing that and now being a part of the podcast, like we do have people that work for us now or where they work with us.

But you know what I mean? Like the podcast has helped families now, you know? And like, so if I wasn't here, maybe that wouldn't happen as successfully, you know, kind of toot my own horn here.

But like for yourself with, you know, powerlifting, I don't really need to say too much, but like you've helped a lot of people and it's all because you were kind of focused in on your thing. This is your, your thing, your passion. I'm going to go all in on this for myself. And then 10 years later, it's like, Oh, wait a second. I'm impacting the entire world now. years later, it's like, oh, wait a second. I'm impacting the entire world now. So it was more than just your obligation to pursue your passion. It was why you were put on this planet. You know, you were meant to do bigger things than just your typical, you know, whatever, eight to five person, although that person's also put here for something. But maybe that person thinks it's too late. How do

you break that weird feeling of somebody you can throw in any age and everybody will think, oh, I missed the wave from, you know, 20s to 30s, 40s, 50s. Everyone probably feels like it's too late. How can you help somebody get over that weird thought? I think the only people that will feel like they're missing out are people that, I think the only people that will feel like they're missing out are people that, you know, maybe get a look behind the curtain or they're like, oh, that's what everybody's talking about. Holy shit. It is like, whoa. It would be like it would be like entering like a new a a new world or something, you know?

Or there is something really amazing about figuring something out. I don't know if people know what I'm talking about, but like, I don't know if you've ever been driving and you've heard a quote or heard something on a podcast or, and it just hits you so hard. Like you're almost like, I should pull the car over right now for a minute. This is, this is insanity because whatever it was that they said connected the dots in your brain over to the other side

that was like disconnected for some reason. And I hope people know what I'm talking about, but I have parts of Davis, California. I live in Dixon, but I have parts of Davis that are like, they're cut off for me. I can't link them together. I'm like, wait, how do I get from this street over here to this street?

How do I get to, you know, how do I get to this school or how do I get to this area over here? And they're not connected. They're connected by other roads because I know those roads. Those are familiar. I'm like, I need to backtrack and go over those other roads. But sometimes you get a message or you see something and it just connects that stuff together once and for all for you. So sometimes there's like a quote or something that you hear where it brings all that together. And you feel that like I get in goosebumps even just thinking about it because it's been so transformative to me so many different times, so many different ways.

And it's sort of foolish in some ways, because you've heard people say similar things, but for whatever reason, they didn't like land on you the right way at that time. And I think timing is everything. So with the person that, you know, with the person that kind of wants out and they want to start making adjustments, they're not even going to really realize that they want out. They've been inside this coffee mug, you know, for 20 years. And they're like, this is great, man. This is awesome. Like every morning they dump a bunch of coffee in here. It's awesome. And just swim around the coffee. And they just think that that's cool, but they don't really realize like, you don't have to just be a coffee mug. You could be a shaker cup or you could be a bigger cup or a smaller cup or a bottle a ninja blender or yeah or ninja ninja blender you could be um

you don't have to be uh what kenny calls poverty water like the crystal geyser uh water you get from the gas station that's super we've talked about water sucks well it's super crinkly like i have a fuji right now that i'm, or Fiji, rather, that I put up to the microphone. And it only does that. But the crystal geyser is like. It's just like a bag. Yeah, you're like, what is this thing? When you go to open that thing, you basically have to grip it.

But if you grip it too much, it shoots water everywhere. It's terrible. You could be a glass bottle of Pellegrino, for God sake could you imagine you understand what i'm saying you could be opaque yeah what else could we be i guess well i was gonna this is a family show i looked up at our at our display yeah i've seen a pump of sorts but yeah you don't want to be one of those yeah yeah that's true you going to get used and abused. Yeah, so I think it's hard to even think outside the box when you're like, I have a job, and that job allows me, provides me on the weekend to go fishing. I get to go skiing with my kids in the summertime when they have off from school or in the summertime skiing.

I get to, you know, go on water ski. I get to ski with my kids when I have off in the wintertime and things like that. So your job does provide you some things where you're like, oh, that's cool. But I think some of that, not all the time. I think some of that sometimes is a little bit of a trap, just like the company car. You know, I make 80, but I really make like 110 because they gave me a company car. It's like, no, you actually make 80. But I have really, really good benefits that I only have to pay like half of what everyone else pays. Like it's tight. Right, right.

And hey, look, making $ eighty thousand dollars a year is a blessing making anything over like sixty thousand dollars a year i think i think is a huge blessing and it could be a step in a great direction for you but i just think that sometimes we get kind of trapped by the dollar amount even like even if you were making 120 or 150, that sounds cool. But what are you leaving on the table? You know, let's let's zoom again. Let's zoom back out again. You know, here lies Andrew Z. Like he was awesome.

He was he was such a great dad. He was such a great this great that. But, you know, we also know like not that anyone's going to say this when you're dead, but we also know how much he was into cars and how much he was into – he started really talking a lot about jiu-jitsu, but he never went. He had those cars he was going to work on. I never worked on them. He was talking about podcasts. He never did that one either.

But he was really nice. He was a really sweet guy you know but it would have been cool to see i wonder what he would have you know so if you can zoom out and think like man it's just like they're not even really risks i don't think they're not that bad they're not that bad every once in a while they're every once in a while they're tough um but i think anyone that can see outside the coffee mug that they're trapped in, you need to take a little risk. You need to try to make that leap, make that jump. Because what you're going to – I was explaining this to somebody the other day.

They're like, I have an opportunity. I have this crazy opportunity. Like I could give X percentage of my company to the superstar person and like, boom, off to the races, this would go. Right. And, um, I was like, well, okay, there's two ways of looking at that. One is like, that is crazy because you haven't been in business that long. Like that is, that is amazing. Like that is, you should really pat yourself on the back because that is crazy because you haven't been in business that long. Like that is, that is amazing. Like that is, you should really pat yourself on the back because that is, I have not even ever heard of that before. Like that's wild. So there's that. The second thing is like that could work out and that could be amazing. The third thing is, and still on the positive side is if that guy takes X percentage of this company, then I should be – I should understand that I have the ability to build other companies and other brands since I just built this one. And I'm talking to this guy that's such a hot commodity.

I'm talking to this person that's such a hot commodity. and that's such a hot commodity. So even if I do sign this deal, which is risky, because I did put a lot of work in over here, it's not that big of a risk because you're still so valuable. And I shared this before with Ryan Spencer. Ryan Spencer has been a friend of mine for a long time. We have to have him back on the show, by the way.

We've got to get him on the podcast. He's an absolute animal, absolute beast in there, political muscle in there, deadlifting five plates for reps and shit like that. Weighs like 170. He does it by himself in the morning. He does it by himself at like 5 a.m. He's just an absolute animal. He's got two kids, somebody I really admire,

but it was years and years ago. And he was really sweating it about this job. And he had this other kind of job opportunity. And it wasn't really like a, it wasn't like a move real forward. It was more like a lateral move. And he and I discussed it. I'm like,

Ryan, you, do you understand like all the people that I know, I know a lot of people and most of them are really stupid, unfortunately. But I said, you're one of the smartest guys that I know. And you're, you're, you work super hard. So this move that you're thinking about making, let's say you make the move and let's say the move doesn't work. You're three weeks in.

You're like, oh, my God, this is not working. It's not like you can't get another job. Like you already have all the capacity is already there. You already have all these skill sets. No one can take any of that away from you. So if you switch jobs and let's hypothetically say everyone hated you, no one would hate him because he's super sweet. The very nice guy in a lot of different ways. But let's say that was the case and let's say that his skill set wasn't matching up to that job, which that wouldn't be the case either because he's super smart.

If any of those things were the case, he could just bounce on over to another job. Now, that does seem scary. But I'm like, even if you were to lose a little bit of money, you currently don't dig what you're doing. Like you're not, you don't love it right now. You don't love what you're doing and you used to love it. So even if it's less pay, which I don't think it even was, but even if it is less pay, what if you're waking up in the morning, like 30 minutes earlier, because you're more pumped to go to work. You got a little extra pep in your step sometimes too, like depending on the type of job that you have, if you are, if you're kind of, if you're kind of like, uh, more than enough qualified,

like overqualified for a particular job position, who's to say that you can't develop like a side hustle somewhere, you know? So let's say that you do go and work somewhere and it's for a little less money, but you are really experienced. You should be able to write your own check a little bit, not in terms of the money, but you should be able to say, hey, look, I've been doing this for 15 years. You know, here's what I can bring to the table. say, hey, look, I've been doing this for 15 years. You know, here's what I can bring to the table. You know, are you cool with me taking every Friday off or taking half days on Friday and you could spend extra time with your family or whatever it is that it amounts to be. But in this job that you can work a lot easier and more efficiently and have wrapped up earlier

in every single day, you might be able to develop that online business that you always wanted to do. You might be able to pursue something else. And I told my wife the same thing when she, my wife years ago wanted to quit the job that she was at and she was pretty upset and stuff. I said, go in tomorrow and quit. She's like, I, she's like, I can't do that. You know, I'm like, why not? I mean,

you had the job for two years. We can, if we had to, we can collect unemployment or whatever the case was at the time. And I was like, you know that you can make a similar amount. Like you can fill in that job within a month. You know? She's like, I don't know if we have a month. I was like, we're good, we're good. You'll probably get a job faster than that. But anyway, she switched jobs and ended up in a job where she didn't have to be in the office as much. And then it kind of just parlayed into us

being able to make Power Magazine. And then I did something similar with my own career where I moved into somebody else's gym when I already had my own gym. That provided me the comfort of making the gym free. That provided me the comfort of not having to be on the hook to actually coach people as much and to train people as much and to think more freely. I went on more walks. I thought about powerlifting more rather than just like actually doing powerlifting. And I created the slingshot. Like a lot of those things, they wouldn't have happened without having more freedom because I still needed to,

I was still in the process of developing the skill sets, but you can't think of something like the slingshot without a skill set within a given field. It's just not going to happen. You either have to be a coach in that or you have to be a participant. Like someone from the outside isn't going to really be able to think of a cool idea for that particular sport

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Yeah, and I would, you know, kind how we we talk about with with diet and nutrition and people complain oh it's all expensive to eat healthy it's like well you can't not afford to eat this way you can't not afford that thing so when it comes to risk you know i think it's riskier to stay at a job that you really just can't stand right your health is way is way more important than that paycheck or whatever you're getting. And it's funny. So I don't know how accurate this story is because I didn't follow up and like actually research and figure out exactly what happened. But I was told about an Amazon robot that was like they let it loose.

They're like, oh, this is going to be crazy. It's like all AI so it can teach itself. It can learn how to do the job better than humans like packaging and stuff and i guess once they turned it on it was doing okay and then all of a sudden it just shut itself down and like whoa what happened it literally killed itself because it was like wait a second i'm i'm gonna be here forever and all i do is put boxes together and then i just ship them out and more boxes come and I just do that forever. Like that's it. Like, yeah, that's all you're going to

do. So it was like, I'm out. Like, I don't, I don't want to do this. And so it just, it shut itself out. Again, I apologize if that's like super incorrect, but like, even if it's not, it's a cool story. And again, I have to go and I should have double checked, but it's cool if that's exactly how it happened. Because, yeah, it's like telling a robot that knows nothing else to be like, you're going to do this five days a week, but don't worry, you're going to get two days off. And then you do it five more days a week and then you get two days off. But don't worry, for the whole year, you get two whole weeks off. You know, like, so it's just, it's crazy. off you know like so it's just it's crazy I think it's more risky to stay at a place that you dislike and just give it a shot for something that you might you might accelerate you might

change the world but one thing that I another thing because this was stopping me early on is you know especially with photography it's like dude there's so many good photographers out there like what's gonna make me different uh How can people kind of separate themselves from, you know, like we'll use Donaher, like, oh, I love MMA or whatever it may be. It's like, damn, but I'm not him. And then it's like you Google like MMA coach or whatever it may be. And like there's like 300 in your hometown. So that's another deterrent. It's like, well, maybe I am too late.

OK, maybe I'm not too late, but am I good enough, you know, to really make this leap? Yeah. And for you right now, you can probably think of a bunch of guys that do jujitsu that, um, they might be coaches. Um, they might be kind of like, quote unquote, like live in your car type of people because they, they don't just sleep outside the dojo. And then they come in and you're like, man, they open the gym every morning. But it's kind of like, do they live here? Well, yeah, maybe sort of. Maybe there's a little cot somewhere or something. We don't ask questions.

Yeah. So what if they do, right? And I've seen that in powerlifting too. There was a lot of people, a lot of people like that. But again, if you're pursuing, if you're pursuing something that you think is like in your best interest, you're pursuing something that you really feel is going to help improve your life,

then you can bet that at some point you're gonna be able to, again, cash in on that. Whether it's just you feeling better about yourself, you feeling stronger about yourself, you feeling more secure about yourself. It's like built up equity. It's built up insurance in that particular category. Hey, I used to be, I used to be a big wimp. And I, anytime I heard people yell at each other, anytime I saw confrontation, this made me nervous. I didn't want to speak like publicly, you know, my hands would get clammy.

I just, any sort of head on stuff, even just telling somebody how I feel, you know, was a big deal. But because I did this and because I leaned into it, I now am, am through most of those things. And maybe some of those things still don't feel great to you, but you're able to, uh, you're able to communicate on a different level. And I've seen people talk about people that do, that, that do participate in like martial arts, how they just even stand different. You know, somebody, somebody might kind of stand and kind of like a little bit of head down, not a lot of eye contact. And this happens with lifting too. It's actually a really interesting thing happens with lifting. I trained a teenage kid years ago, probably like 15 or so, 20, maybe probably like 20 years ago.

like 15 or so, 20, maybe probably like 20 years ago. And I didn't know what this kid's deal was, but he would always have like these kind of baggy sweats on, a big sweatshirt. The hoodie would always be like not only on, but the hood would be up and it'd be kind of pulled down. And sometimes he'd have like a knitted cap underneath there. And he'd just kind of like shoulders forward, upper back kind of pulled down and sometimes he'd have like a knitted cap underneath there and he just kind of like shoulders forward upper back kind of rounded over and i would say stuff to him and i'd try to be like funny and stuff and uh it was hard to get him like out of his shell i got him lifting

for a little bit and he actually was was pretty strong i got him from like a 185 deadlift to like a 275 deadlift. I got him from like a 135 bench to like a 225 bench. And as we were going, I would teach him. I would say, hey, you know what? Let's – I don't mind the hoodie, but let's just pull it down. It's like kind of dark in there. And so he pulled it down, and he kind of like laughed. I'm like, that's okay.

First time I've ever seen him laugh, you know? So one day he got done with his workout and I said, Hey, you know what? I noticed like you always kind of stand the other way and stuff, but it comes to the mirror. And I was like, I'd like you, this might be hard for you, but I'd like you to like, just look in the mirror for a second. You know? So he had his hoodie off. He's in like a short sleeve shirt and he looks at like his arms and stuff. And he's like, my arms are kind of muscular.

And he got excited. And he's like, he's like, there's a vein right there. I was like, yeah, man, that's what I've been trying to tell you.

You're kind of jacked. That's sick. And he started laughing. And from that day on, he came in with a t-shirt on every once in a while he'd be in shorts and he had like pretty good calves and stuff like that too i'm like dude what's going on you got some calves going on you've been you know hiding these things forever and then every once in a while he'd like finish a set and he would like you know flex or he'd be like oh this feels good like i'm getting a good pump and i don't even you know, flex or he'd be like, oh, this feels good. Like I'm getting a good pump.

And I don't even really know why his, I think his grandmother took him in there. His grandmother just said he didn't have a lot of confidence. And so that's why she brought him in. And he's like, his dad's not really around and stuff. And so I thought maybe this would help. And I was like, well, it seemed like it's made a big difference, but then he would communicate with me. He would talk to me like he, before that he wouldn't really say anything, you know, and it was just, the training was awkward. Most of the time I'd try to say a stupid dad joke and he would, he, he wouldn't, uh, he wouldn't fall for any of them. It was hard to like get in any conversation with him because he was just a kid that like went to school. He probably hated school, probably wasn't getting what he needed at home. And he was just like, uh, yeah, I think he just

like, wasn't feeling great about himself, but a little bit of lifting went such a long way for him. And again, it's like, well, what does that do for him? Well, I don't know if he like, you know, became a strength coach or became a bodybuilding coach or um became a personal trainer or anything like that but he probably took some of that took some of that confidence into um some sort of job or some sort of opportunity and probably uh you know probably was able to turn it into something even though it's like kind of more indirect. That's funny. He probably, yeah, he probably turned it into at least getting laid, maybe, hopefully. Yeah. Right. So with all that stuff said, you know, hopefully some more people are motivated to actually, you know, start pursuing the things that they've been wanting to,

but what are some, maybe, maybe red flags or like pitfalls of this? Because, you know, like with you and Andy, like you were always doing something, but I would imagine a lot of partners would be like, oh, you don't have a real job and you don't plan on getting a real job. Like, I'm going to pay Bill. Okay. And you're just going go lit okay all right um but you were still pursuing it and you still worked really hard every day and that's what andy

saw uh so what else can someone do to just make sure they're not like you know we are talking about a risk here but like don't don't like oh i'm gonna go all in on power lifting and then it's like you're playing playstation again today like what the fuck like so what about like yeah some pitfalls or red flags or just some things like we told you the do's what are the don'ts yeah don't lose other people's trust you know um make like have some sort of proven track record of some sort and uh you could be almost like a scientist and say hey like i think i'm really close to this like discovery like i'm working on this every day you still might need to have you know um you might need to uh like participate like if you're in a relationship and you are the one that's kind of like staying home you might

need to make sure the house stays clean home, you might need to make sure the house stays clean. And like, you might have to do certain things because you're not doing anything else. So why shove all that onto somebody else? Um, you should be able to have that shit together. It just basically just have your shit together and don't lose somebody's trust because it's going to be helpful to have somebody else to do some of this with. And even if they're not as involved as my wife was with our business, like my wife was, my wife was pretty heavily involved, I guess, from the beginning, but, um,

kind of more like after the, after the fact, like I, I did like the quote unquote heavy lifting. Like I had the idea, I got the idea made. Um, and then I kind of went to her and like, this is what I got and let's figure this out. And then she was like, okay, yeah, this seems like a pretty good idea. Let's, let's kind of roll with it. But I think you have to, um, you have to, you have to prove yourself. You have to prove like what you're doing. I do understand what you're saying. Cause there's a lot of people they're like, yeah, I'm'm gonna have my own store one day i'm gonna sell

my own clothing brand you're like that's such a cool dream and i really i don't want to be someone to like drop a giant grenade on your idea um but do you have like a drawing of like a shirt or pants or something that you want to make like do, do you have, do you make any headway in any way? Do you have a brand in your head at least of something that you want to kind of mimic or copy? You know, um, have you even ever talked to a manufacturer? Have you even ever spoken to somebody that makes clothes that can tell you about the margins can tells you about the pros and the cons um have you ever uh even just gone to a local t-shirt place to see like how they print shirts hey how does this work oh shit okay it costs like 25 bucks just to even get like a just a 25 bucks just to like do one run off of a shirt just to kind of see what it'll look like okay shit okay you know you start to figure these things out and maybe originally you had

eight different designs you wanted to start with but you're like oh shit well i have eight different designs and a couple different colors like just to even get anything off the ground it's going to be a few thousand dollars um start looking at the machines and start, you know, it can't just be a fantasy. It has to be something that you're actually looking into, that you're actually working on. My buddy Bart Kwan, who's an incredible entrepreneur, he said, you know, when you vet somebody for a job, he's like, what do they got? You know, he vets somebody for photography or for videography. He's like, if you say, you know, you bring them in and, you know, they're telling you about what college they went to or this or that. And say, what camera you have?

And they go, huh? He's like, out. You know, done. Like they don't. He's like, sometimes, you know, people don't have money, but they should have something. And they should say, oh, I have a SPR-, five, whatever the hell Canon I'm making these things up. So I got no idea what I'm talking about. And, uh, and they say, but I really would love to get this other, like, at least they know what the hell they're talking about, you know, and that they

already, they already invested their own money into themselves because they know that they're going to create something cool. They already bought it. You know, Jake, uh, my son stuff comes to the house all the time. He's like, don't open that. That's like some like a battery or some camera part or whatever. Um, because he's just like, he just saves up and tries to get some of these things and acquire some of these things himself. And then he's like creating content with it. Like people are like, he's got an Instagram. I'm like, and he didn't, won't tell me what it is and stuff like that. So it's just, you know, who, who are these, these, uh, you know, these people with these ideas and these, um, fantasies, it can't just be pure fantasy. Otherwise the significant other or the people around you just, it's not, you don't really

need them to believe in you, but it, it, it, it, it's helpful and you need to be able to believe in yourself. And so if you are like lying to yourself and you're not really heading in that direction, you'll know that. And you will, um, you'll be defeated. You'll, you'll feel defeated. And you will, you'll be defeated. You'll feel defeated. You won't be able to capitalize on the things that you have and the things that you have in your head. When do you think it's appropriate to seek out help from like an actual, like another person? Not necessarily just like Googling stuff and, you know, watching YouTube videos all day long.

You should kind of already be doing that. The research, like with the clothes designer like you just explained. Like that person should know everything in and out that they can get for free right now. You said in and out. Oh, man. When it comes to like actually seeking like a mentor or, Mark, I have this really cool idea, like going to somebody that knows what the hell they're talking about. And when you get there, making it seem like, you know, what you're talking about, it's like, damn, I might actually have a shot.

Like, Hey Mark, what do you think about this? Yeah. I, you know, I've, this is something I learned from Jim Rohn. You can look him up. Somebody I kind of admired from afar. He passed away years and years ago, but still has great information on the internet. But he says, you know, take a rich person out to lunch. And you'd be like, wait, shouldn't they be taking me out to lunch? The person that lives next door to you that has that, you know, awesome boat that you've been wanting to buy or whatever.

know, awesome boat that you've been wanting to buy or whatever. Um, take that guy out to lunch or the, you know, friend that has all the cool hunting and fishing gear that you want. Um, call them up and say, Hey man, like we haven't hung out in a while. I'd love to take you for a burger somewhere, take them somewhere, pay for it and start asking them questions. Say, Hey man, how'd you like, that's pretty. That's I looked at some of that stuff they have. And that's super expensive. Like, how did you acquire it? And then, you know, even more so when it comes to like trying to figure out particular jobs or the thing the thing that you want to become, take that person out to lunch, you know, find the person that's doing the thing that you love and say, man, how did you, how do you have this business where you have seven photographers that work underneath you? And you, do you even like take pictures anymore? Like, it's pretty cool. You got all these people working for you and hustling around and I'm just getting started. So I understand I'll have to be behind the camera, but you know, how did this come to be? you know, spend some time with some of those people.

I think another huge thing, and this has been talked about a lot before too, but you know, worrying about the finances of stuff can be problematic, although it does make sense. Um, but with some of the things that we're that we're moving forward with even here, Kenny and Wyatt, anabolic activities, those guys aren't asking a lot of questions about money. And one person might think, oh, that's foolish. We've talked about how it's going to work and how it's going to take time. So of course, we did talk about money to some extent. and how it's going to take time. So of course we did talk about money to some extent.

But to start out by being like, you know, by being new, by not really having a skill set that's been seen to be incredible yet, right? I don't think you have the leverage to really talk a lot about money. You could say something effective like, hey man, I'm really working to work hard. I'm not that concerned about money. At some point, I hope I earn the right to have you guys start to think about, you know, payment for this, payment for that. Why it does get paid by us for a couple different things here but my point my point being is that it's not a great place to start conversations and if you're trying to get your foot in the door I mean imagine imagine if you're going you you listen to a band one night and you recognize they don't have like a bass player and then you go to them you know that night and say hey like where do you

guys play and so on you say i'd love to play bass for you guys but you know it's going to be 200 bucks a show like they didn't even hear you play or you have no relationship they could be way better to to to uh practice with them one time you blow their minds you have a really nice bass guitar that they are like shit man well the guy knows what he's doing he's got his expensive piece of equipment there you're amazing at it or you're at least halfway good at it you vibe with everybody pretty good and let it be their decision they go holy shit. He's an amazing addition. We didn't expect that you're going to be this good. Hey, you know what? Like we got to fuck man. We got to, I'm sorry for the F word. Crap, man. We're going to have to pay this guy. Like he's good. You know, let, let it be somebody

else's decision at the same time. You never want to be taken advantage of, but most of the people you run into when they, when you ask them kind of hey where'd you start i mean all the videos i made i just put them up online i wasn't really looking for money um but i did do stuff like simultaneously and that's fine too so i while i was putting out a lot of information for free on youtube back in the day. I also made like DVDs and stuff like there's no reason why you can't think of multiple things. I did sell t-shirts and stuff like that. And it was like, I knew the t-shirts weren't going to really be money, but I was like, it's kind of like branding. It's kind of nice to have t-shirts in the beginning,

just because I know it's like one day I'll probably look back on it and be like, oh, those were our shirts from the beginning. And so there are things that you can do. You can work on your current situation and pay the bills with what you have to pay your bills with while you're simultaneously working on your future and working on your fortune. Do you think it has to be a 24-7 pursuit? It will probably turn into that. It will probably turn into that. It probably will turn into that.

And, you know, if you're not super passionate or super fired up about something at the moment, I think that's fine. I think what will happen is you'll like wrestle with it. You'll start to do it more and then you'll get more and more obsessed with it. A lot of times you get more obsessed with something the more you get kind of kicked in the face and the more that you get defeated by it.

Like my defeat was the squat. Like I just really struggled with squatting. And even like 405 and 500, those weights would just like fold me up like an accordion. I would go to, I could posture up to them and hold them decently and go down in a squat but on the way back up i would turn into like a fishing rod and i would just my back would like warp over almost like i'm a big thing of like sheet metal you know like sheet metal like you go to pick it

up and it will warp one way and you go to move it the other way and it warps the other way that's the way my back felt a lot of times i'd go to push into the weight and my hips would be forward it would just be a mess um so i had to really i had to really uh i had to spend a lot of time there i had to spend a lot of time working on that but what made me hungry was the fact that that sucked so bad that like made that made me want to do it more and um you know i remember like i remember you know like i was thinking i was thinking to myself i was like you know what you can you can be awesome at power lifting but you have to get through this like this is what you have to get through this is your detroit pistons you know this is your michael jordan had the Detroit Pistons

that he had to get through. They beat the crap out of him. He had to lift weights, get stronger, and then he was able to get through them. And it made for a better story, because like, I don't know, like, would it be great if Jordan just came through

and just won all the time? I think like Bill Russell did that. No one seemed to care. He won like 10 championships, but he just like dominated everybody and no one ever even really talks about it. That is weird. It's because

there was no one, and Wilt Chamberlain scoring 100 points, like everyone discredits it. They're like, who do you play against? Yeah, Roy Jones Jr. Yeah, Roy Jones Jr. smoking people for I don't know how long and then people are like, oh, the opponents weren't that good or whatever. But it's because he didn't really have like an adversary.

Ali did. Ali got knocked down and knocked out and beat up and got his jaw broken by other people. He was like a fallible human. He probably, a couple of those fights, he probably didn't train great for them, probably came in a little heavier and just not as conditioned and probably could have won of those fights, he probably didn't train great for them, probably came in a little heavier and just not as conditioned and probably could have won all those fights, but probably just,

but you lose those fights. It's actually makes for, it makes for a better story. And then you do a bunch of things that no one's expecting you to do. That makes for a better story. Conor McGregor coming back after his, you know, broken leg and who knows what he'll be able to come back,

uh, after doing that. And he won multiple championships in different weight classes and, and things like that. But Conor McGregor didn't just go and destroy everybody. I mean, I was, I think it's very agreeable that he's not even,

he might not even be in a lot of people's top five for greatest ufc fighters of all time um maybe some people would recognize like he kind of should be because of the attention that he drew to the sport and kind of what he means to the sport so there's those people but um anyway i think it's important that you have – you don't always need – not everybody needs a tragic story. I think that's important to keep in mind. But you still need like some sort of rough go of it. You still need like to get punched in the face by something. It doesn't have to be your parents when you're a kid.

Because you hear that talked about a lot on Rogan and you hear it talked about a lot. And it's, it's like fantasized about that, that these people have to have this like, uh, treacherous or horrible, uh, upbringing in order to like overcome these things and then to be awesome later on in life. And I haven't really found that to be true. I think that you can, so for parents and people, you don't have to necessarily break your kids back. So you don't have to necessarily be extremely hard on them. You might have to have parameters, you might have to have

rules and different things like that, but not everybody needs these really tragic stories. Just, I'm a huge fan of the show Shark Tank and Kevin O'Leary, who's on the show, Mr. Wonderful. And there was a woman on the show yesterday. Kevin O'Leary, unfortunately, his dad died when he was like 10. So that's a huge tragedy. But the man that stepped in, you know, a lot of times you hear these horrible stories about someone's stepfather or stepmother or stepfather, you know, beating them and all these different crazy things. His stepfather was like a world traveler. He was like an entrepreneur. And so that guy came in and changed his life, you know, and, you know, he still had his dad, you know, the memories of his

dad and all that stuff. So it's anyway, he had somebody that came in that was a real positive and strong influence on him and he traveled to paris and he traveled to germany and traveled here traveled there and while you watch the show anybody that's a fan of the show you're like oh that makes sense because mr wonderful knows about everything everywhere he's like oh that's french oh that's german and he'll speak in those languages and you're like what the hell like that's crazy he knows a ton about like wine he knows a ton about how different things are manufactured and made and the woman that was on the show um she had a story and her story wasn't tragic she had two great parents and they were encouraging of her. She, uh, was kind of a tomboy as a kid.

Then she got way into her hair and it was always messing with her hair. And, uh, she wanted to go to like beauty school and her mom and dad were like, you know, like you're a really beautiful girl going to beauty school. Like you're sure. Like they weren't like making fun of her, but they were, they're like, she'd be able to think of something, you know, maybe, uh, uh, not so obvious, you know, going, going to beauty school, you know, but they, they were supportive and she went to beauty school and then worked in a salon in New York city. And then years later, she, uh, created dry bar, which is a place where women go and they get their hair blown out and they don't really actually like, it's not really like a full on like haircut, which is interesting.

They just like will straighten your hair or they'll style your hair, I guess I should say. Some, if there's women listeners, like he's got no idea what he's talking about. Like dry cleaning for your hair? Yeah. But it's a place where you go and hang out and I think they have like, I could be wrong, but I think they have like wine and champagne probably it's a place where you just like chill and they put on girly movies and stuff like that and anyway this place this woman's a

multi-millionaire but she didn't have and maybe even closer to like a billionaire she didn't have this background of like she grew up on these hard streets or she you know you don't always need to have these, these, these horrible stories, but I'm sure that she ran into her own obstacles that she had to learn from in or like getting that business off the ground and having a franchise. Like that's gotta be a massive pain in the ass.

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if you monetized your brain and monetized yourself then you're going to have something different than everybody else that might like what's the difference between me and coach greg like there's differences between us i don't know exactly what they are. Other people can figure those out and point them out. But are there people that listen to this podcast that also listen to coach Greg and find they get great information from both spots? Are there people who are like, I'm not going to listen to Mark Belk. I'm a huge coach Greg fan. Sure. Are there, is there the reverse of that? Sure. YouTube is on the internet.

You know, the internet is a huge platform. There's many, many different places to go. very small in comparison to the, the giants that are actually in the YouTube space that have 12 million and 24 million subscribers and, and Mr. Mr. Beast, right? Like,

you know, Mr. Beast has producers of like actual TV shows that are just part of his, they're just part of his staff. That's how far along that guy is. And meanwhile, you know, like Coach Greg or myself, like we're just setting up cameras and they're just, you know, shooting and we have podcast engineers and people that edit the stuff together. But we don't have somebody who's been in the TV business for 30 years that, you know, has all these shows on the air already. Like that's that's wild. So like the production and the ability of those guys is huge.

But there's still value in just some random 11 year old kid setting up his iPhone somewhere with zero production, just putting it on a little tripod type thing and on boxing, um, his favorite toys. You know, I mean, there's so much, there's so many, uh, there's so, so much opportunity. Um, you think about like anytime you start to get into a new hobby, like new hobby, new YouTube videos, you know, I'm not, I like, like years ago you were getting pretty into, um, a lot of things you would do in the kitchen, you cooking. And so you'd watch a lot of these YouTube guys that were helping with cooking like, Oh, you can get jacked and still have variety in your diet. This is sick. I'm going to watch this. This is awesome. Shit. Maybe I'll cook some of these up. This is super cool.

And then you get into jujitsu and the food stuff might be kind of pretty much wiped out. And now it's all like, oh man, I, that guy got me an ankle lock yesterday. I'm going to see, how do I do some escapes? Cause people keep grabbing my feet. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So I guess for, um, I guess as we close things out, if you have any last words of motivation or just kind of kick people in the butt to get them to, you get away from that broken mindset and switch over into that monetization mindset. I think first things first is you don't need $25. You have to understand that. You don't need $25. You don't need $50.

You are more valuable than that, and you are going to continue to be more valuable than that. So you don't necessarily need the money right now, right at the second. I do understand sometimes that you actually literally do. Josh Settlegate had a story like that where I kind of asked him to meet me somewhere and he had like three bucks and had hardly any gas in his car, but he didn't want to say anything. So he went and he, that's the kind of shit that you do. Just like, all right, three bucks. Hopefully he gets me there.

If he doesn't, I'll call somebody and maybe they'll get me there. Or maybe I'll try to Uber with money I don't have. But I think you have to take those think you have to take those risks. It's not going to be easy. The payout is going to be down the road and the payout is going to be after you put a lot of work in. Um, the ability to be like strong, the ability to be, um, the ability to have like the right things come out of you. They only come out of you after you already been in the process. We talked about this with courage.

You know, how do you, how do you get courage? It's not like I go, it's not like I go, you know, hold on, Andrew, I'll be right back. I'm going to go into the bathroom and I'm going to come out with tons of courage to do this Saturday school. It's like, no, we're like, hey, let's do a Saturday school thing. All right, well, what does that mean? I don't really know, but I'm just going to talk about stuff. I think people will be pretty interested in it. I don't know, let's just record.

And then we record, and once we start recording, well, now, now we have the courage to do it because we're in it. And now we have the courage to do more of it. And we got the incentive to do more of it because now we're on the hook because now we put it out there. And so whatever your idea is, whatever the thing is that you have in your head, I would, I would do your best to put it out there. You know, with, uh, Andy Frisella's 75 hard, you know, one of the, one of the things is he wants you to take like progress pictures. And one of the things with like a progress picture is that now it puts you on the hook. Even if your progress picture is private, even if it's just for you, even if it's

just on your phone, you got your own little thing going on. And then how are you going to have the courage to share that progress picture? You're going to have the courage and you're actually going to be excited to share that progress picture after you made progress, not before. So after you made progress, after you're like, man, for that 75 hard, I was able to lose 25 pounds. Now you're pumped because you're like, look, I get to show all these people the progress that I made. So you might not feel like you have the courage to do the thing right now. You might feel like you don't have the mindset, the skill set. But you will once you get to do it, once you start doing it. And we know that here at The Power Project because we've been implementing so many things over the last couple

weeks months and years my workout today which i would think is like the worst worst workout of all time all i did was roll i just rolled around on a bunch of different uh objects to do some myofascial release i did like three trips back and forth with the sled just to get the heart rate up. I did a little bit of the rope flow stuff, but no like lifting. Years ago, I wouldn't have even done a workout like this because I wouldn't have really had the courage to. I would just make fun of it. You know, I'd just be like, oh, it's dumb. But now I have the courage to do it because I understand how much stronger it will make me and how much I'll be able to kind of rebound and recover based off of that. And so I think in this pursuit, you really want to play the long game.

once in a while and say, I wonder if I pursue this thing on the side. I wonder if I pursue this thing, you know, just, just on Saturdays for a couple of years, like what's that going to look like? You know, if, if maybe occasionally when I'm on a walk, maybe I just jog, maybe I jog for like a minute. I don't wonder what that's going to look like next week. I don't wonder what that's going to look like next month, but I wonder what that's going to look like next year. I wonder what that's going to look like the year after that. Something else I learned that I want to share with you in the final message here is that if you have things to do that are kind of light, they're not super difficult.

Andrew and I talked before the show about cracking open a book. If you crack open a book and you start looking at it, just crack it open to any page, you're most likely going to be kind of intrigued by it. Andrew and I, we're children, so we like pictures. So maybe that's your flavor too. Maybe you like stuff that has pictures. I, I, I like to look at stuff that's instructional, but it's gonna, it's gonna motivate you to read because you just took that moment to kind of crack that thing open. So in the things that you're doing, in the things that you're pursuing, if you just get started on

it, if you just grab, you have to go and grab the book from the shelf, you have to go and open it up. You have to actually look at it. Once you have done some of those things, you don't really need to worry a ton about motivation because you're most likely going to kind of skim through it. What's going to be a deterrent though, is if you're like, I got to read three chapters every day and I got to read a book a month. Those are going to be the things that unless you have the skill set, unless you previously have the habit of doing that, that's going to be too hard for you. Your workouts can be the same way. Kratom, if you need a monster energy drink, if you need any of these things for any of these activities, whether it be podcasting, writing, running, lifting, then what we used to say about

handling weights on like dumbbell presses is if you can't carry them over yourself, they're too heavy for you at the moment. Rather than having somebody lap the weight for you, we call it country club. Rather than having somebody lap the weight for you, we call it country club, rather than having somebody put the hundreds on your knees for you when you're already sitting down, if you can't carry them over there, they're too heavy for you. If you need caffeine and a bunch of other stuff to hype you up for some of these workouts and some of these things, then at the moment, that's a little much for you. I'm not saying that you can't ever do it. That's like a card that you can play here and there.

But the reason why I mention it is because over time, you will wear yourself out. If the things that you're trying to do, if every Saturday you're like, I'm going to learn so much about this topic because I want to be a chef one day. And I'm a UPS driver and you go hard every Saturday, as hard as you can, you spend 10 hours on that thing and you, some days you're going to probably blow it off. You're gonna be like, I don't feel like doing that today. I'm not going to look up those videos. I'm not going to, but if you are like, you know what, on Saturdays, I'm going to make a little bit of time to kind of check some of those things out. I'm going to read a page or two of a book that's going to advance me in that field. I'm going to watch a video. Boom. Now you're ready to go. Now over time, you'll ingrain that habit and you'll be able to handle more and more and more. Just as we always talk about on this show, you'll be able to do more and be more.

The more that you do, the more that you can handle. Andrew, take us on out of here, buddy. All righty. Thank you, everybody, for checking out this edition of Saturday School. Drop those comments down below. Let us know what you guys think about this podcast today. And also check out the video that's going to pop up, if not already, on manifestation because that stuff is real. And I think that falls in line with what we were talking about.

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