Mark Bell's Power Project - You Need to Clarify Your GOALS, WHY Do You TRAIN? || MBPP Ep. 814

Episode Date: October 5, 2022

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Starting point is 00:01:16 thing. Give them the middle finger up the ass. Yeah, give them... Actually, they might enjoy it. That's what I'm saying. Might feel good. It might feel good. It might be like the Ben Greenfield situation, laying on the bathroom floor. I can't get that out of my head. Why the bathroom floor?
Starting point is 00:01:38 I don't know. I picture his kids knocking on the door. Dad. I'm busy. Go away. Dad, we want to go on the cold plunge yeah i might go away a word of advice to anybody who wants this mic sounds weird now did you oh you the headphones he was very sensitive hold on just keep going i'll fix it all right
Starting point is 00:01:58 so actually we had a guest on recently who loves coming over here and touching stuff by my dick yeah i'm not even going to but i'm just saying if you guys do and oh i'm sensitive right there if you guys are listening on audio oh there we go and wow thank you wow i'm in the ear now um if you guys know that's my spot well he andrew like he has that uh he has experience oh yeah we've been around each other for six years. Has it been? It's been six long years. It's been that we've been around each other a long time, or it's been that you've been around the block a lot of times?
Starting point is 00:02:32 Both. You've been slutting around. Slutting it up. We've slept in the same hotel room a few times. Wow. Same hotel room, same Airbnb. Yeah, yeah. I mean. Same room. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah i gave you my mouth tape you did
Starting point is 00:02:50 give me your mouth tape yeah snuggle snuggle used mouth tape i was going to say though um no if you guys just want to if you ever do try anything like ben greenfield i think he was using a theracane type thing to you know do his pelvic floor just lube up okay because if you don't you know it's not an easy passage especially if you're not used to that i'm not saying this from experience i'm just saying yeah lube up you know there's a natural water-based lube out there right just to moisten things up i'm not speaking from experience though but i'm just saying you don't want a bloody booty hole oh i'm just saying it's weird you're saying you're not speaking from experience but you sell your own water-based lube on your website yeah yeah and it'll it'll soon be on powerproject.live which is our website that's going live soon yeah we have a website yeah we
Starting point is 00:03:41 at this at this point by the time this podcast says i have to go back edit that out probably because if it's not out we're fucked nah it's okay we have the domain guys the website's gonna be out soon it's never mind where you'll be able to get these mugs and some sick shit that we have coming out along with our branded water-based lube. We're going to have to change everything. It's the way that we talk and stuff. We're going to have to dress nicer and stuff. I mean, you look good. You have a good collared shirt, so that's good.
Starting point is 00:04:15 That's a good start. I was going to change, but when you sweat, you can't peel it off. That's where I was at, and then I forgot. How do the pro wrestlers always peel their shirt off so easy? I always wanted that. Wrestling's fake, so the shirt's not real. Really, bro? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Wait, wrestling's fake? No, no, no, the shirt's. Oh, okay, the shirt's not real. Well, I mean, they rip them off easy, but sometimes they just take them off easy. Like, I've even seen Triple H take off, like, a whole suit. Yeah. You ever see that? He gets mad, he takes off the whole suit
Starting point is 00:04:45 and he throws it down i'm very curious because i don't like i would be like i'd be like stuck i'd be like when chris was getting on the belt today for the oh it was great oh yeah he tried to put it over his head it's a shoulder mobility that was that bizarre looking. He almost got trapped in there. Oh, no! I love you, Chris. I hope you don't hear that part. I hope not. It's a friendly roast.
Starting point is 00:05:14 It's a friendly roast. I remember he and I were working out together one time. I don't know why. Sometimes things just look funny for a reason. He went to sit down. He was trying to rest in between sets. But he went to sit down on like the incline bench and you can't really sit down on the incline bench so he sat there sideways for half a second and just realized what a bad idea it was and i was like that looks so dumb like what are you doing it's like i don't know like because you got your
Starting point is 00:05:38 knees close together yeah it's super uncomfortable i think he's trying to rest in between the sets or something it just like forces you to look like all dainty because you're in need. That's what it did. Yeah. Or when you have your hat on backwards and you lay back to try to do a bench. That's why I just avoid movements that force me to put my hat forward. Such a rookie move to lay back with the hat back. You got to take it off first.
Starting point is 00:06:02 And then you're trying to move your head around, trying to get it off of course did you ever have a phase of life where you're just wearing hats more and then was there a time where you just stopped wearing hats as much yeah i used to wear a hat like kind of all the time yeah and then like mainly because we do the podcast it feels a little uncomfortable for me to wear the hat and yeah have the headphones on so i just uh i got rid of them i would wear them out a lot of times like uh not wear them wear the hat out like make it wear them to event fall apart yeah i would wear it yeah to events and stuff like that oh i don't know i got a little i just like as you get a little older like i got a little you know some crinkles here and stuff and it's like i put the hat on it for a
Starting point is 00:06:41 little while and i was like oh it kind of and I'm like you know who fucking cares gives a fuck yeah when I when I cares if I got some crinkles yeah when I started shaving my head that's when I started wearing hats less uh-huh because it was just way easier yeah my shit isn't fresh right now I mean mine either that's why mine's currently why does some guys hold on to the sides hold on to the sides yeah
Starting point is 00:07:00 yeah like the sides like when it's like they am my dad my dad too for a little bit he did but then he yeah like the sides like when it's like they're my dad my dad too for a little bit he did but then he just got rid of it but like the coolest thing you can do is just be like whoa dad like your hair looks good today and he's just oh thanks he gets all fired up but but isn't it so weird like why why why do you think that even looks remotely good to have just this really thick on the side it looks crazy you look like crazy person you look insane you look way older than you actually are just get rid of the fucking hair it's bad i remember the uh the worst like roast that wasn't supposed to be was jessica
Starting point is 00:07:37 smith she was like no you don't look old until you take your hat off and i'm like oh i don't want to take that cut thank you for that i think i'm just gonna go fucking jump off a cliff now but cool that's the worst when something hurts and somebody was just like making an observation like a matter of fact thing i was yeah so yeah this is a stab me in the heart yeah you know this is the thing though you know mike came on talked about his skin routine real quick have you guys started using lotion? I know. I've given up on you.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I'm totally giving up on you, Mark. Hey, don't give up on me. I know you're not going to fucking use night cream or anything. I switched my, like, body wash stuff. Okay. Mainly just to try to control, like, the acne and shit on my shoulders. Okay. So I did something.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Body wash? Yeah, body wash to wash that other than that um no not at all i'll just say this man night cream is very easy face face lotion in the morning very easy yeah when my dad's 70 he looks pretty good so yeah yeah you know we kind of have luck here like both of me and you we i have room for error i have room for error too but i'd rather not take it you i need support you need support need some work you got a beach house you're always in the sun you know you need to lube it up yeah but at the end of the day if you're wealthy at the end of it doesn't matter like he'll get some kind of weird like laser surgery something rejuvenating get a different avatar you could do that the thing that
Starting point is 00:09:09 greg doucette did with his hair what did he do to his hair he had a full uh he had that hair oh like where they needled oh wow does it work pretty good his hairline looks good now i don't think he was even having problems i think he just like you know want to rejuvenate or something or i think he got it for free. A lot of those companies for people who have a lot of following, they're like, let me do your hair thing. Let me do your hair transplant for free. I wonder how much longer it will be before we figure out the hair loss thing. Probably won't be too much longer, right?
Starting point is 00:09:38 I think it's already – I don't know the science. They have some room for hair regeneration and stuff if you catch it early enough and stuff i think right yeah um fuck uh i won't say who it doesn't matter i was talking to sean baker's business partner and she's from another country so but sean baker though too though like no but what i'm saying is she was like i don't understand why americans even like go through that they're're just like, no, no, no. She, well, because she was like,
Starting point is 00:10:07 I guess, okay, I won't give it too much information. She knew somebody what that was balding and they have this certain thing that they can do. And like, now he has like full on, like fucking like hairband locks and shit. And it's all his, I should probably hit her up and ask her what it is.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Not that I want to get it done, but because it'd be interesting to talk about here. But yeah, she was just like, why do Americans, even if they don't want to go bald, why do they go bald? And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:10:31 uh, genetics and stuff. And she's like, no, no, no, no, that's not it at all.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Like we can fix that now. I'm like, Oh fuck. Like, okay. It is interesting that there's certain things you can really like make fun of people for and tease them about. And there's other things that
Starting point is 00:10:45 you i mean i don't i mean i think you need to be careful with all of it but like someone loses their hair like they don't have any you don't have any control over it you know so it's kind of a it's a screwy thing to make it's a screwy thing to make fun of you know it's like yeah my wife you know she was bugging me about my eyes and stuff and i'm like that's just not cool like i i somewhat lost some of my eyesight there's nothing i can do about it i'm sorry you know what i mean no no it's fine i just imagine andy roasting you like you fucking no sight yeah yeah well she her eyes are going too oh yeah and i'm like it's just something that happened i don't I don't have knowledge to make it not happen and if I did I would
Starting point is 00:11:27 do it you know so it's just interesting like the different things you can like pile up on someone about you hear the bald comments all the time people comment on us three being bald all the time it's just I don't know it's interesting like sometimes it's not good to fuck
Starting point is 00:11:43 with people for certain things but other things for some reason it's fair game and i don't know if it should be or wait i have a question for both of you guys um i'm gonna start with me though uh i was made fun of for the size of my head as a kid yeah so if the camera's on here i do have what some would call or what many have called a peanut head now You see this big old thing back here? I have a peanut head. I have a peanut head. So that was,
Starting point is 00:12:07 that was what I was roasted for as a kid. Um, but for you guys, was there anything that like made you self-conscious or just made you kind of like, man, that kind of hurts. Cause I will say,
Starting point is 00:12:18 man, I've, I've worn hats a lot, not because I was bald, but because like I used to think my head's fat i was able to finally grow into that shit so it's not as fat as it used to look but that was the main reason why i wore hats because i have a fat ass head and i i'm okay with it now how about cover this thing up yeah uh not nothing with like the glasses because like i've been wearing them forever you know since i
Starting point is 00:12:40 was fucking really little so again that's like one of those things where it's like like okay cool like yeah i didn't have a fucking choice to be born with like better eyes you know it wasn't there but before i forget because i went and got you know my eyes checked recently getting worse uh but the my eye doctor was like oh how old are you again and i'm like i'm 37 he's just like oh okay he's like yeah once you hit 40 who i'm like what the fuck is that dude i'm like you suck like why would you say that you know it's just i don't know that frustrated the hell out of me so well we're very aware here about that shit that's why we're very careful with our words but i don't think most people are very aware you know are you supposed to train your eyes at all like are you like for you personally? No one's ever told me to.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Did they ever say to like take the glasses off a bit and look around and get light in your eyes? Yeah. I mean, I don't know what would be right. I'm just curious. Same. No, I mean, I've thought about that stuff too because I'm like if I just keep putting a Band-Aid on this shit, like, okay, they got – like my left eye got a little bit worse. So my prescription got a little bit stronger. And I'm like, well, what if it went the other way for a little bit you know we trained that motherfucker
Starting point is 00:13:47 to get strong yeah um the only thing that i was close to and i'm really upset that my mom didn't do it uh because this happens a lot with kids especially when you know i was born in 85 so anytime back then so early 90s late 80s uh if you would see kids like with like a gigantic patch on one side and so that was because my right eye was strong left eye was weak so when they would cover it up i was forced to use my left eye and so that would have brought it back up to the same strength as my right eye and it could have potentially prevented me from wearing glasses or just kept them balanced to where i didn't have to have two different prescriptions but other than that no, I've never heard of anything other than, like,
Starting point is 00:14:26 I know there's some, like, apps or some websites that will, like. Yeah, there's, like, gyms for your eyes. Yes. Like, training. Yeah, that stuff. Yeah. I don't know much about it. It would be kind of cool to get someone on the podcast about it
Starting point is 00:14:36 because it's supposed to be pretty effective. Yeah. You know, like, train your eyes. And for some people that already have healthy eyes, it's supposed to even make them stronger, which is like who wouldn't want to improve their sight? Yeah, because from what I understand, it's actually like muscles in your eyes that will focus shit.
Starting point is 00:14:52 And when I got LASIK the first time, I lost the ability to do that. It was completely gone, and I'm like, I fucked myself up. And then I got it again, and then just over time, I was able to build back the strength to focus again. But yeah, could you imagine just like seeing something blurry and being like, I can't strain to focus on it.
Starting point is 00:15:13 No guys, I think there's something big to what you guys both talk about the eye training. Cause I told you guys my eyes weren't great when I was a kid, but my eyes continue to improve up until I got to 13 and my doctor was like, Oh, you don't need glass. I wore glasses up until the point I was 13 years old. 13 and my doctor was like oh you don't need glass I wore glasses up until the point I was 13 years old and he was like oh you don't need
Starting point is 00:15:29 glasses anymore because my eyes were slowly getting better they weren't great and then they were getting better and he's like it must be like you're out playing soccer you're having to focus far and near you're having to do that consistently and he said that's probably why my eyes got better. Yeah. My eyes regressed quite a bit in my mid to late 20s because I commuted to work. So I was looking everywhere and then I would sit at a desk and then I'd leave and I'd commute and, you know, look out again. My position went remote. So I had no longer commuted. So I was just in front of a screen drive to the gym back to the screen so i never ever traveled for a long time anymore and that's when they just boom they went
Starting point is 00:16:11 they really took a hard downturn because i wasn't focusing on anything past my screen so that really like that fucked it up oh we gotta find somebody this is just something that like if like everything shit can be trained yeah yeah i I totally – yeah, I agree. It's just I haven't – I do know some of the stuff that we do is not healthy. Like even these lights aren't necessarily great. They're pretty bright and it's like – it's not like directly pouncing on us. But even like when I'm looking at him, it's like – it's pretty powerful.
Starting point is 00:16:43 So it's probably not helpful. And then the phone obviously, screens all those things but when i was young i didn't really get made fun of for too many things especially like my my oldest brother you know like he was like my protector so people really weren't going to say much but um uh amongst my own friends, younger guys that were like my age, not my older brother's friends or whatever. But I'd get made fun of for like space between my teeth. But it never really bothered me. I was just like – it's just different. Like I don't really care.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I don't know. I never really – I don't remember it like hurting or anything. Where I got made fun of the most was just at home. My brothers would always make – they would always talk shit and make fun of me. And I would always end up crying about something. So I was a big cry baby. But I think later in life, I think that that worked out to be like, um, I take things in stride more. Cause I think maybe as a young kid, I think I worked them out already, you know? And I think I told you guys the story of like my uncle.
Starting point is 00:17:47 He just, I came in the house crying when I was at my grandmother's house. My grandmother's house was always this big ass like party. There's always tons of people there. Any excuse to be at my grandmother's house, my grandfather's house, we were there and there was like 40 or 50 bells and there would be kids outside playing basketball wiffle ball uh football just all kinds of different stuff some kid doing something completely dangerous they shouldn't be doing like trying to light something on fire somebody with a sledgehammer randomly and but the parents just uh my uncles
Starting point is 00:18:23 and aunts and parents didn't care because we were occupied. It's kind of like the modern day iPad, I guess, like modern day tablet or whatever. And so we were doing stuff and we were occupied. But like I would get kind of left out of something or because I was the youngest in the entire family, even out of my cousins and stuff. Because I was the youngest in the entire family, even out of my cousins and stuff. So we'd play baseball or something, and I wouldn't count because I'd always get out because I couldn't fucking hit the ball or whatever it was. I was a little bit too young to try to participate, but I wanted to. And so I would always end up crying, crying so much.
Starting point is 00:19:01 It's snot everywhere, and there's snot bubbles and all that stuff. crying crying so much you know it's not everywhere and it's not bubbles and all that stuff and i remember going inside into my grandparents house and my uncle like took me to the window and he's like everyone's outside they're still playing you know there's still time to go out there and there's still like daylight out there you it's like you want to stay in here and cry or do you want to go back out you know and i like, I was kind of thinking like, fuck you. I'm sad. Whatever happened, it really did hurt. And he's like, well, it's up to you.
Starting point is 00:19:31 And he just like walked away. And I was like, it's fucking right. I got a choice. I can go out there and play and have a good time still or I can be in here and be a little bitch. That was a really good uncle. All mine just made fun of me for playing soccer. Like that was, I guess, I mean, it wasn't a roast, but like because I didn't play football,
Starting point is 00:19:52 you know, because I didn't like fucking getting hurt and shit. People are obsessed with football. Yeah. And I was pretty good at soccer, but because they made fun of me for it, like I didn't want to play anymore. And, you know, which is fucking terrible, right? Like I could never imagine doing that to my nephew or nephews being like, oh, that shit's whack. Like, I mean, they were really mean. right like i could never imagine doing that to my nephew or nephews being like oh that shit's whack like i mean they were really mean so i'm like i guess i'm gonna stop playing this girly ass sport
Starting point is 00:20:10 because they don't like it i really wish i could like go back and be like fuck you guys i'm gonna you have to go out for the football team and you have to get seriously injured yeah that's gonna make you fucking cool and legit it's gonna make you a man it's gonna harden you up yeah it's gonna do so much for you later on in life. Yeah, you're going to be paralyzed. You're going to be a legend at Lee Junior High School. No, seriously, nothing against football, but when I have a kid,
Starting point is 00:20:35 if it's a boy, if it's a boy, I'm not letting that boy play football. Straight fucking up, not letting him play football. This is just all the fucking, I'm sorry, I'm going to take my mom's approach here. If she didn't let me play it for good reason i'm not gonna what if he really wants
Starting point is 00:20:49 to play i don't give a fuck especially from especially from a young age like i think like we've talked a little bit about this on the podcast before like we're trying to have kids like be cute and do shit that the bigger people do, like adults do, and they just don't have any business doing it yet. And they actually might have business doing something way more dangerous, like jujitsu or something or wrestling. Because you would think that those things would be like, oh, man, like I don't want my young four or five-year-old boy like wrestling or doing jujitsu. Like, oh, man, I don't want my young four or five-year-old boy wrestling or doing jiu-jitsu. But it's like they're not – they're probably not – you get one giant kid versus a smaller kid. Maybe there's some issue, but they're not really going to probably hurt each other, especially with supervision.
Starting point is 00:21:43 And wrestling and jiu-jitsu are safer, honestly, when it comes to how people actually do the martial art than football. Yeah. But you get like a seven-year-old who's kind of on the smaller side as like a running back and you get a seven-year-old who's on the bigger side and he's like a linebacker. On the sauce already. Yeah. Like Titan, Michael Trenson. Or you got to check their birth certificate. They actually, when they were here, they actually just mentioned he's on small amount of growth hormone.
Starting point is 00:22:06 That's all they said he was running now. It's really strange that they said that on there. I was like, that's a safe approach. It's pretty surprised. Or was it IGF-1? I think it was the growth hormone. It was growth and Anovar. Yeah, because they said he'll end up being.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Oh, I almost forgot about the Anovar. But they said it was like five milligrams. Yeah, so it's like negligible. Is it really doing anything? That's why he's going to end up being 69. Speaking of being performance enhanced, I showed my son the other day something top secret. Uh-oh. The art of making a protein shake.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Oh. It actually made me think because I was like, yeah, like if you weren't taught it, you don't know it. He's like, I don't know nothing about protein shakes. He's like, what are these shaker cups about? Like, what do I do and how do i mix it up and you know i was like well pretty much add whatever liquid that you think would make it taste really good powder or water first fucking shake it up so i didn't realize how much goes into all this as i started to explain it because i'm like the cup it is is critical. The cup is dry. We need to start with a dry,
Starting point is 00:23:06 like the bottom needs to be dry because you can put the powder in there and then you could put water on top of it and you can shake it up. But I said, if there's any moisture in the bottom, then you're screwed. So you might want to pour some liquid in, then put some powder in, then pour more liquid on top and then shake it up. And so I'm giving him this like whole dissertation. We're going back and forth and I'm telling him about the keto pro versus the, uh, versus the steak shake and all this stuff. And we're, we're going back and forth.
Starting point is 00:23:33 And then he's like, he just stops for a second. He's like, what about ice? I was like, bro, ice brings a whole nother element to the whole thing. I was like,
Starting point is 00:23:41 you got to kind of use ice like after you're already shaking it up or you got to pour it like over ice because the ice it will stick it's like the powder a lot of times will stick to the ice and then uh he just stops for a second he's like okay and he goes well what about the blender and i'm like the blender is a whole other category it's like we need a separate day we're going to do a seminar honestly i, I think this is a great idea just for fun. Make the protein shake manifesto. Yeah. And just make it a free PDF. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Because there's so many different, like I. It's insane. I wonder, because for me, when I make protein shakes, I do a little bit of water first. Disclaimer, and SEMA also farts from the time he wakes up all the way, well not, I guess it doesn't stop when he goes to sleep. Farts all day, every day. I stay shit in.
Starting point is 00:24:33 So his stings may not be shaken up all the way. Alright, pause. I make good shakes, but anyway. I put water first, a little bit of water, maybe up until maybe this point right here. Then I put the powder in. Then if I have ice, I'll put a bit of ice in, and then I'll add more water over that.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Because now the protein powder is in the middle of everything, so that when you shake it, there's no protein that ends up on your lid. Or if you have one of the things on the—see, you know how it gets chunked up in the lid? The protein on the lid. That's the worst. You open it up and you're not even paying attention. You're not really looking and you take a sip. And you're inhaling. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:25:11 As far as protein shakes go, that is the most infuriating thing ever. Because it's like, how the fuck does this thing become impenetrable? You know what I mean? It's fucking... It's powder. This is liquid. You'd be like, oh fucking it's powder this is liquid you'd be like oh for sure this powder is going to get destroyed by this liquid and the protein is like nah bro like we're cement now bitch ain't nothing breaking through this barrier motherfucker
Starting point is 00:25:35 try it and you can shake it as hard as you want and it is not going i think you guys would disagree with me but i i don't think that the shaker ball does anything fuck no it doesn't do anything do you guys think it helps at all it does if you do my method but with your method you don't need this the ball with my method if you with if you just have ice it works but if you have the ball it's an extra level of break-upness of the protein powder i just don't like i don't like having to wash the ball just rinse that shit i. I guess, but it's still going to reek after a while. Your semen just takes the entire tub of protein and puts it under the faucet and shakes the whole thing up. It's like, bam, 400 grams of protein. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Actually, someone should try that. That sounds like an interesting idea. Yeah. Because within you, protein, it's filled up. It's not filled up all the way. So what would happen if you just stuck some ice, filled it with as much water as possible, closed it. You have some delicious pudding.
Starting point is 00:26:28 And just shook it up. You'd have to go through it that day. Lots of shaking. Lots of shaking. It's like 900 grams of protein. Yeah. Recently, I've been keeping it very simple, but I will add PB Fit to the chocolate within you protein.
Starting point is 00:26:40 That's my shit. I have anything peanut butter. Let's bring up this uh video of deep cheeks making that disgusting egg white coffee oh my god yeah blow it out in the toilet or blow it out in a bathtub i have no idea is this is this john yes okay okay what is wrong what is wrong with this man what i don't know what you're talking about why can't i think of his last name water anderson john anderson sorry god i love that guy i wonder what his that is actually his normal voice because i've always wondered what is john anderson's normal voice like but that's
Starting point is 00:27:17 just his voice that's his singing voice yeah does he post i uh or did i i left him a message and i was like man i was like i love some of the stuff you're putting out. I was like, it's so fun. It's funny. And he like messaged me back. He's like, bro, let me know what you think is funny. Cause I'm not sure which one. I'm like, they're all like, I'm thinking, okay, this is even funnier. He doesn't really recognize that they're funny.
Starting point is 00:27:37 And I was just like, I think I could picture people sharing these with each other. Cause they're, cause he's a lot of fun. I think. Oh my God. He's disgusting. So gross. Don't tell me you don't have time for breakfast.
Starting point is 00:27:49 You can kill two birds in one stone. You got your, basically your shaker, got your cold brew coffee, my favorite. Boom. Here's where it goes downhill right after this.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Now you got your egg whites. Protein source. Whole food protein source. Oh, my God. No wonder why he's shitting himself all the time. Next, you've got flax seeds, which is really healthy. That'll really blow it out. I already have to fart.
Starting point is 00:28:21 I'm farting a lot of flax seed in there. Ew, dog. We've got caramel pecanlaxseed in there. Ew, dog. We got caramel pecan. Pop that in there. Look at his finger. He's got the pinky out. This is one of my favorite people in the whole world. He's so fun.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Don't tell me you don't have time for a good goddamn breakfast. 50 years old. I think he's probably 280, 290. I don't know. 270, 280, somewhere in there. He's f***ing just jacked out of his mind. Where's the one where he's on the couch with his wife?
Starting point is 00:29:02 Not that one, I don't think. I think it's another one. It might be. I think you're heading the right direction there's like both sitting on the couch they're not like right next to each other he's he's just so gross i love it he's always smoking a cigar like post-workout who was it? Chris Duffin that did whiskey with his... Oh, yeah. He'll drink...
Starting point is 00:29:28 Well, he doesn't do that often. I think he only does that on birthdays or something. Maybe go back way up to the top. There's like... He talks about this move that he does. Oh, that's probably it. In the middle, he blows snot. Yeah, probably there.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Oh. He blows snot rockets in the house. Yes. I wasn't sure what she was going to say when we were starting to film this video, but now I do. And I guess I better start defending myself. No. Well, own it. I'm going to own it.
Starting point is 00:29:54 But the bottom line is, we don't have a single fucking carpet in either one of our houses. We have tile floors and cement floors. Doesn't make it okay. We're not wrecking any carpets. That's the first thing. The second thing I have to say, why do I do it? Fuck, I don't know. Because I can't.
Starting point is 00:30:15 There are lots of things you can do. You don't need to do. I don't have another reason. So that's the fucking reason. I have two pit bulls that come behind me. And they lick it.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Take it off the floor. Ew! Daria. John. Come on, buddy. There's a lot of things that's really okay to do as a guy. Like go into the bathroom, pee, touch your, you don't, you know, you don't have to wash your hands after you pee.
Starting point is 00:30:40 You should after you poop. That? That? A bit much. Dude. Oh, I wish we could find the other clip. But anyway, basically he was just telling us. Oh, maybe it's the one where she's got the white on right there.
Starting point is 00:30:50 He farts. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. Jesus. This is how to live like a man. He farts on my head. He farts in my hair. Why does he laugh?
Starting point is 00:31:01 Well, when the opportunity arises, you know, I must say that I'm just like a fucking lion pouncing on a wounded fucking zebra. I take the opportunity. Usually what will happen is I'm laying on the couch, which is rare. Usually just the tail end of my day, I'll kind of decompress. She'll come and lay in between my legs. Big mistake by her. I like to cuddle.
Starting point is 00:31:26 I recognize the opportunity, so what I'll do is I'll slowly sneak one of my legs around, lock it in, and then she can't get away. And it pulls me in closer to the sphincter. I'll blow ass and pow, there it is. And she flops around like a fish
Starting point is 00:31:42 out of water. Then I don't wash my hair. She's got to wash it out. Poop part of my hair. Trying to get away. It's like marking territory. That's all it is. And, Stephen, what do you think about that? I mean, it sounds like he's kind of using like a jujitsu move.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Yeah, no, actually, I imagine what he did. He just, he kind of put her into a, there's a head triangle movement that you can do. And it's not a normal triangle, but you literally just smash your opponent's head in between your legs and they have trouble getting it out. You could choke them that way. And you could fart perfectly. You can also fart. And just kill somebody basically with it.
Starting point is 00:32:11 That is one of the worst things in jujitsu though. There's this north-south position where your butt's on top of their face. And I have accidentally farted on people in that position. It wasn't on purpose though. You fart a lot in jujitsu, right? Because of the pressure? You could.
Starting point is 00:32:27 If someone puts their knee on your belly and you're having trouble, that absolutely happens to me. You're like, whoops. Anyway, give our buddy John, give him a follow. Old time strongman guy. He's a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I don't understand why he's so gross and wacky, but he just is and I love him for it. I'm just happy I took that picture right there. Sean Baker. Which one is Sean? Oh, yeah, that was Sean Baker. Oh, man. I think I've told you guys before that John used to run the, I'm not sure if I'm saying this correctly, but I think it's Lancashire Stairs.
Starting point is 00:32:59 They're like famous. Like there are these famous stairs out by where he lives. Oh, wow. Out by where he used to live and like crossfitters and all these like fitness enthusiasts and uh you know runners all these like people were they're always excited to like run them and john is running with his shirt off in like a full spandex like uh short or pants or whatever and he would like because he's in such good shit he has really good cardiovascular conditioning especially from years ago when he's doing strongman and he'd
Starting point is 00:33:30 like run past everybody and just sitting there he's just laughing he's like he's like nice day for a run and he's like cruising past people it's like holy shit he's like 300 pounds running those stairs he's a fucking cartoon where was this at do at? Do you remember? Lancashire? I think it's called Lancashire Stairs. Oh, by the way, how did you feel about getting roasted by Stan Efferding? Did you see a post? No. What? There's a post that Stan Efferding put up a few days ago.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I was like, oh, Mark's got to love this. Is the rhino coming out? You know, somebody posted, I think they put some stuff in my comment section. Some people are like, you got beef with Rhino or something. And I was like, I don't remember having any beef with Rhino. It's the second post on Stan's page. Andrew, you got to pull this shit up. You got to pull this shit up.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Live reaction. Just before we even see this, Stan has always made fun of me. It's his favorite thing. I was having even more fun. I don't even remember making that video. I can only imagine now that I'm seeing this. Not necessarily just to be stronger. I just want to feel better and move better in my day-to-day life.
Starting point is 00:34:36 This exercise right here helps a lot. Getting full range squats in like this. And the caption says, kids, don't be this guy. You embarrass yourself. And the caption says, kids, don't be this guy. Kids, don't be this guy. Your dick will fall off. That's amazing. Thanks, Rhino.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Rhinoceros. You didn't see this, huh? No. Oh, man. No, but I was wondering, like, because in my comment section, people were talking. They were like, oh, Rhino said something about. I was like, I don't even know what they're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:14 He's out here roasting you, man. Dude, that's fucked up, Stan. Stan, I challenge you to a... Nope, never mind. He'll win. I don't have any idea on something I can you know Stan actually would probably be a really proficient runner too former soccer player
Starting point is 00:35:30 I wouldn't be surprised if he would be like it might take him you know he might have to fucking practice it for a minute but he actually sprints and stuff you guys seen him on the treadmill oh it's on the overspeed yeah he's cruising on the treadmill and he's I want to say I saw him run maybe something like 15, 16 miles an hour or something like that.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Wow. Our boy Graham got clocked running, I think 20, I want to say, around 20 miles an hour. That's pretty good, right? How did he track it? Was it the overspeed treadmill? No. So he was doing it on a track. And when he went to San Diego and he visited David Weck,
Starting point is 00:36:11 somebody had like some sort of device where he can see the miles per hour. And the guy that he was working with said, that's pretty fucking fast. Sometimes it's a matter of sustaining it. As Andrew found out today, trying to sustain a pace can be pretty difficult. Yeah, that long hill really got me. I don't know if you know which one we're talking about in SEMA. It's got like two paths. I know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:36:36 I'm like, all right, here we go. And I'm like, it's still going. We're still going upwards. Yeah, that one's like like a slow grade but it just yeah it goes on for a while would have been great to talk more about running if my boy sam okanola showed up i'm roasting you on air sam ouch i wanted you to be here where's samuel he's at home with his family like what the fuck god with his two daughters and his wife he's got some cute kids i don't blame him yeah yeah Yeah, yeah, he does. Sam, I'm roasting you, but guys, you should go.
Starting point is 00:37:07 I've mentioned him multiple times. We'll get him out here. We'll get him out here. We'll make it work. Former world championship natural bodybuilder, and he's running now, too. Is he pretty tall? He's my height. Yeah, he seems pretty tall.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Because when I've seen some videos of him running, I'm like, he's got a really nice fucking stride going. Yeah. I'm like, he's got long, sexy fucking stride going. Yeah. He's got long, sexy legs. Yeah. Sam, he does have long legs. He has a really good build. I don't know what sport he played when he was a younger kid, but he's been really digging getting into running recently. Oh, I think I saw this.
Starting point is 00:37:41 He's got like a vest on or something, right? Yeah. Oh, he's wearing a flag nor fail. Shout out to the Bailey's. Those are nice to run. Overpasses, those are actually really nice. They're usually like a little ramp, a little hill. Why do you guys think we're noticing these trends?
Starting point is 00:37:58 Because, okay, so for running, right? I remember Nick started doing it a few years ago, but I've been seeing an influx after you, too. I've been seeing an influx of bodybuilders or strength athletes make squats, now getting into running. Shout out to Meg Squats, by the way. She looks fucking incredible. She did such a good job. I think she's in the best shape I've ever seen her in. Let me pull her up.
Starting point is 00:38:22 She looks fucking great. Post-pregnancy too. I thought she looked great when she was doing powerlifting and I know she's made some different decisions in terms of how she was lifting and how she was exercising. Sometimes when you're powerlifting, you're lifting more for the actual result of the heavier lifts you're doing.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Yeah, and then post-pregnancy, she just decided, hey, I'm going to get in some crazy shape. And it's cool. She talks about it all. She talks about the journey. I mean, that's got to be some fuckery to get pregnant and then to, like, try to figure out what to do with your body after that.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Yeah. Yeah, my wife deals with that shit right now because she'll look at pictures, right? Like, right before, she was, like, pretty much pretty much in like the best shape she's ever been in. And then, you know, she gets pregnant and now she's like, I just want to go back to that. I'm like, well, you already have that. So, you know, just you'll be fine. Well, your wife's a real gangster because she had a baby a long time ago too.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, that's Meg now. Yeah. Fucking looks amazing. She, damn. She's funny too because she's like i learned these poses and here i am like trying to crank through them yeah good for her no but
Starting point is 00:39:32 that's uh it's it's really cool like seeing all these people that look like i think her focus used to be power lifting when she initially stepped in but she got into all a bunch a bunch of other different types of fitness. Now she's doing running. And I'm seeing that from a lot of people that had a focus on one single thing. They're starting to kind of not drop what they were doing, but they're branching out into other forms of staying healthy and fitness. I wonder if Bart runs. I know that he used to like for military stuff a while back and- Go to men's health. Yeah you did you see the post i saw i saw the post but yeah i don't know anything i don't know much about it i just like that he's nakey yeah i just like naked bart
Starting point is 00:40:12 but wait what they have so many which one was it you'll just see one there's only one bat kwan no but i'm saying like there's like a million men. I know years ago too, Rob Bailey was on a mission doing quite a bit of running. And you see Matt Vincent is doing a lot of cycling. Yeah. And Matt did like, I don't even know if it was like a run necessarily. He did this like crazy trail hike thing that he did a while back. And I want to say it was like 30 miles or something crazy. He didn't like run the whole thing but it was like after his many many
Starting point is 00:40:45 knee operations and shit like that's yeah i think people are just looking for different challenges i think the pandemic may have played into it a bit because you know people uh are like i need to figure out something outside i guess like yeah there's no gym so i you know maybe people can't ban me from fucking running around my house so try to figure out something different. And I think we're just learning more. Here's Bart, men's health. He's fully naked. Shlong.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Just hanging around as he's throwing punches and kicks. He also does, yeah, he did a lot of martial arts too. He's done some jujitsu. He's done some boxing. All these other naked fellas. A lot of naked dudes
Starting point is 00:41:25 it's crazy to uh it's crazy to have seen that that post and it says that he's uh like 37 not like 37 is old but it's funny because you know bart and i met so long ago and i've always just kind of you know i admired what he's done with all his different businesses and stuff. But I just always have thought of him as like younger. So to see him like, you know, having a kid and just doing all the different things that he's doing, it's just fucking cool. Yeah. It's cool. But it's also a little weird.
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Starting point is 00:42:45 but that age thing's a number bro you you really like 50 50 nowadays if you since we know how to take care of ourselves it's not what 50 used to be same with 60 yeah you know i mean i've seen too many jacked ass moving well 70 something year olds that have just kept it as part of their life that is just like i don't care yeah you know to to answer i mean not to answer your question but to give you a night uh my thought on like why we're seeing more shit in general i can just tell you for me personally um again it's just like that basic human ability like should i be able to run a mile at a decent pace or like not be fucking totally shot like i think i should be able to do that yeah but where it really comes from and it's funny i was actually talking to dj david webb our boy he's been running so he's been running for a long ass time and you know when i
Starting point is 00:43:30 posted that i was running he's like oh do a good job and so we were going back and forth and we had the exact same thought and it's like if i'm at the park and something happens uh i that that one time i take my eye off my son for one second, somebody takes him. And then like, am I going to have to be, and I know this is like very dramatic, but like, am I going to have to explain to the cops, explain to them,
Starting point is 00:43:50 to my wife that like, I tried to chase them down, but like I popped a hamstring because I was really focused on making my legs look good for Instagram. Like what a shitty thing like that would be like, or I ran that motherfucker down and like, you know, here he is, go arrest him. Like, so just like basic things like that for me is like why i'm like yeah
Starting point is 00:44:10 i should really address this because i just think myself and a bunch of people in the uh i'll just call them like the like bros in the gym they're like i don't want to lose my gain so i'm not gonna i'm not gonna go running or uh you know mike isertel doesn't do it so i'm not gonna do it um studies whatever fucking old bodybuilders say like oh just do a walk on the incline that's all you need do the stair master that's that's how the pros did it i just think it's more optimal it's more optimal and i think we've just been lying to ourselves by like avoiding running because it's like hard and i just don't i don't think we all anybody been lying to ourselves by like avoiding running because it's like hard. And I just don't I don't think we all anybody wants to admit it.
Starting point is 00:44:48 You know, and so like for me, that's why I've been picking it up. An interesting thing with something like running is that, you know, people just want to put stuff in categories right away. So they want to say this is aerobic and this is anaerobic. And anaerobic is supposed to be without oxygen. This is anaerobic. And anaerobic is supposed to be without oxygen. If you're not used to running and you go to run, you tell me, is it aerobic or anaerobic? You're going to find out quickly that you have a really fucking hard time breathing, even running for like 40 seconds.
Starting point is 00:45:24 And if you don't have a hard time breathing running for 40 seconds, if you just pick up the pace doesn't matter who you are you will have a hard time breathing after running for even 20 seconds regardless of who you are if you just pick up the speed if you just run a little faster so there's a lot of great things that can come from some running i think what we're seeing right now is just some blowback like there's there's been a lot of cool sports and there's been a lot of cool things for people to do um bodybuilding was kind of the main thing in terms of like i guess like what people knew and arnold and joe weeder and that whole movement and it brought us a lot of the stuff that we see in the gym and it brought us a very particular culture that stood around for a really long time you had like muscle beach back in the day and the the kind of invention of exercises and uh you know bench pressing back
Starting point is 00:46:12 before there was like uh an actual bench press like device that had a place for the barbell they used to just hand it to each other and they would be on a utility bench. And the utility bench they could do rows off of and they can bench press off of and stuff. But then it became more and more specific equipment that was like, hey, this is for this. This is where you squat. This is kind of where you deadlift. This is where you do this. And all these things got made up and people started to associate them with specific results. Oh, stiff leg deadlift works your lower back, works your glutes, works your hamstrings, all these different movements. And then, you know, you started to see there was some functional stuff that happened maybe like about two decades ago, but it got
Starting point is 00:47:01 buried. It like came around for a little while and it like left t-nation was really popular there was a guy named ian king there was also a handful of other people i'm losing people's names at the moment but uh there was pavel with the kettlebells and there was a lot of movement through some of those things but it didn't like, it was, yeah, it was like niche. It didn't really stick. Then there was kind of like the West side stuff, which rose up pretty strongly. And Louie, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:33 uh, is a really powerful character. So he was able to make some, some of the power lifting stuff rise to the top and power lifting took shape and took form. And all the way to the point where you see it pretty regularly. All the way to the point where CrossFit had me and Jesse Burdick teaching powerlifting to CrossFitters around the country. It's a certification course for CrossFit, for the CrossFit affiliates and stuff like that. So you saw all that stuff come around.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Some people decided to dive all in on CrossFit. Some people decided to dive all in on powerlifting. And there were some people that dove all in on bodybuilding, but bodybuilding is so fucking hard. it really is and even if you even if you toy around with bodybuilding you'll probably recognize it's so hard you won't even try like you won't even you won't even ever compete so then somebody asks you what you do you're like i'm a bodybuilder but you're not really a bodybuilder because you never step on stage you're not really participating in the full aspect of the sport you're just you're playing around with some bodybuilding in the gym, which is just a different thing, right? And then, you know, some of those powerlifters, some of those CrossFitters started getting banged up, started getting hurt. And I think a lot of people started to maybe think, maybe, like, maybe there's some other shit I should be doing. Like, maybe I should have some other concerns other than how much weight I can clean and what my MRF time is and what my
Starting point is 00:49:06 squat is and what my bench is. Maybe I should see if I can work on other things so that in my pursuit for working on other things, I could become fit, but I could also feel good during the day, feel good and look good. And so I think a lot of people like in the effort that they had maybe coming off of sports when they're young they got caught in the same trap of like making it too competitive and making it too difficult and a little too hard my wife was a competitive swimmer for a long time and I every once in a while I'll encourage her like hey you know maybe you should think about like because I just I just want her like I want her to be happy and I want her to be excited, you know?
Starting point is 00:49:49 So every once in a while I'm like, maybe you should compete. Maybe see if your friends, she's like, I just, she's like, it's over. Like, I don't, she's like, I don't do that. You know? So, so they'll find like challenges to do instead. Cause she knows and her and I will talk about it. Like, yeah, same thing with me. Like if I, I can't just go do like a deadlift meet. Like it just doesn't work that way. I can't just go and bench like
Starting point is 00:50:08 randomly. Like I could, but it's going to put me back into the same trap. I'm going to get obsessed with the numbers. I'm going to feel good for a little bit. I'm going to lift good for a little bit, but then I'm going to feel fucked up all over again. So I think that's kind of what we saw. We saw a lot of people not necessarily getting injured, but just like not feeling great. Like people are in tons of fucking pain and they're like, maybe if I can have a little bit more balance to where I can play some sports on the weekend and I can go in and lift some weights here and there, maybe I would just feel better and be able to do a lot of stuff easier without pain. Yeah. At the end of the day, the whole aspect of trying to be healthy and having a level of fitness
Starting point is 00:50:51 isn't just to look super big or super muscular or be super strong with a barbell. It's also to feel good on a daily basis. I mean, and that's outside of being in the sport of powerlifting. Ideally, I think you could be a powerlifter and not have to be in pain. I don – and that's outside of being in the sport of powerlifting. Ideally, I think you could be a powerlifter and not have to be in pain. I don't think that has to come with the territory. I also think you could be a good bodybuilder and not be in crazy amounts of pain. There are just certain things you got to add to your training. But for most of us, including myself, I want to be able to do all of these things and I think that goes – I'm speaking for all of us here. We want to be able to do all these things, be strong, be mobile, all that things. And we want to be able
Starting point is 00:51:27 to do this while feeling good every single day. And to do that, you don't need to add in a crazy amount of things. I guess you just need to kind of restructure what your goals are and make a few additions to your current training routine so that those things are involved. A kind of example is if you're trying to build a lot of muscle, right, that's cool and you can do a lot of isolation work but maybe add in some things that increase the range of motion for certain movements that you're doing so that you can really get strong in those deep ranges and you're not super stiff and moving around in that way. If you do some of those additions, you're probably going to feel a little better as you're not super stiff and moving around in that way you if you do some of those additions you're probably going to feel a little better as you're gaining muscle it might not be as optimal for building the most amount of muscle possible fucking optimal geeks um but it'll be great for your movement is there instagram handle optimal
Starting point is 00:52:21 prime is there that would be great. We should get that. Yeah, you know, something that's forgotten about optimizing things is just things that you enjoy. Because part of being optimal would be things that you can be consistent to and be attracted enough to to where you have a little bit of a body of work with it you know if you are if you're interested enough in squats and interested enough in smashing gigantic weights and a squat then you will do all the things that are necessary to ensure that you can squat more weight on top of making sure that you're healthy enough to be able to perform that because if you only last for a year then you're going to make it to squatting like 365 or something if you're lucky so it has to be you have to be the deeper that you're interested
Starting point is 00:53:17 in it the more likely you are to follow through with more things that are going to allow you to hang on for longer periods of time therefore it, you may not be choosing something that's necessarily, quote-unquote, optimal, but you wouldn't really know any other way because it's what you chose to do. So there's certain guys like John Hack where you're like, I don't know exactly even what he's doing. He's just lifting really heavy every time he trains. And it's like a lot of heavy singles, doubles, triples.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Shit, like you ever see the guy do a set of six or a set of five? If he does them, like I haven't seen him on his Instagram, you know, and I'm sure like he's sharing out certain things on Instagram, but is what he's doing optimal or is he just chasing after what he feels in his heart to be kind of the right decision for the day and what he feels best with? You know what? I mean, on the devil's advocate of the optimal side, right, where let me – I want to entertain the optimal bros for a little bit and the optimal evidence-based bros real quick there are certain movements that mechanically may have certain muscle groups fire a little bit
Starting point is 00:54:31 more that also mechanically might be able to have you push more weight than other movements would allow you to and if your only goal is to build as much muscle as humanly possible in the shortest amount of time maybe you should
Starting point is 00:54:46 only focus on those specific movements. But on the other side of things, if you have a goal of having joint range of motion, if you have the goal of being strong in different areas so that you don't have as many weaknesses, if you have the goal of trying to have a bit more mobility so you don't move like you have a stick up your ass and you're made of fucking tin, maybe, just maybe, you might do these non-optimal movements that aren't approved by your favorite trainers with much lighter load so you can maybe work on some of those movement inefficiencies and those really weak ranges of motion. Kind of similar to some of the things that our boy, our boy, Michael Hearn does. The guy does fucking lateral raises and Mark,
Starting point is 00:55:29 you've mentioned these, but he literally does the raises and he brings them all the way up here. But he also, at this point he can load it very heavy because he's been developing that over years. But most of the evidence-based bros would be like, the range of motion for the lateral array should be right here. There's no reason biomechanically to come all the way up here.
Starting point is 00:55:51 It's not building any extra muscle. Look at the way he moves and look at the way you move. Yeah, you can just at me next time because I actually did publish that video. Oh, you did? Hey! video oh you did yeah i was just you know again the shit that i learned from doug brignoli about like you know once your arm goes here and if you go further than that then like your whole scap is actually turning i wasn't even talking to you i'm joking i don't know i'm just having fun with it all right but yeah one thing that like i don't know if you guys think this is important but
Starting point is 00:56:21 something that i've been doing with like everything i'm doing is it's uh i asked myself for what you know so like we went running today and like i want to get better at running okay andrew you want what you know for what and i'm like well because you know i want to catch somebody if they try to steal my son uh but if somebody is like or i'll take myself you know like i want to be able to deadlift 315 it's like okay for what uh because the deadlift is the king lift and i want to be cool it's like okay well you know there's chicks that like can double that now right like you know that they're all gonna smoke you and they're natural athletes and shit you know so it's like okay for what like okay maybe i should have asked myself that a long time ago before i fucked up my back yeah you're're in like a comparison merry-go-round, which might not be the best.
Starting point is 00:57:07 That too, yeah. Might not be the best place for you to be in, right? Like if you're running, again, it's like somebody that has no experience running can very quickly recognize like I'm not very good at this. And I just wanted to, I would like to improve and be a little bit better at it. I think you can get the same thing from lifting. You can lift and be like, wow. You know, it's one thing not to know what you're doing and stuff and to be apprehensive and to be shy about like going into a gym.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Like those, those things are crippling and it sucks that people are there, but that's where a lot of people are. So hopefully people have confidence enough to go into a gym or to have someone show them the right way or help them. But when we get into comparison, it's really an evil motherfucker and it's like way worse than what we even think. I think that sometimes people will say something like you'll hear things thrown around pretty easily like, oh, you know, run like a seven minute mile or something like a seven minute mile pace for five miles or something like that is really like, first of all, the person that's saying that unless they've been running for a while, they're probably lying. That's like really fucking fast. It's quite fast. It's really fast.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Remember we ran with a guy who was like running like an 830. Yeah. Remember that day? I almost died. Yeah yeah that guy was flying and you know maybe to keep up with him for a little while maybe it wouldn't be too bad i mean we just said hi to him for five seconds i couldn't catch up yeah he was he was uh yeah he was really he was really cruising. But comparison is really an evil bastard. And like even just for myself, it's like I got to take a step back and rethink stuff. It doesn't make any sense. Like I'm tight in comparison to what?
Starting point is 00:58:55 In comparison to who? In comparison to me, I'm fine. All I have to do is improve upon where I'm at. That's all that matters. I don't have to be more flexible or more mobile in the eyes of everybody else. I might need it or want it for myself. And so therefore, I just need just a fucking a tiny degree more. Maybe I don't have to like stretch for 30 minutes every night or something.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Maybe just periodically throughout the day. If I do a little, I'll be a little bit better than I was yesterday. But Mark, real quick question, man, on the idea of comparison. Don't you think it's more perception-based? Because you probably in your mind size people up, size things up,
Starting point is 00:59:37 size up things that they're doing. You're like, I can probably get myself to that. And you probably do compare it to what you're at currently and you're not there yet. But it doesn't pull you out of things negatively and make you just not want to do it, right? Right. Yeah, no, it's definitely a perception and definitely depends on how you look at it.
Starting point is 00:59:56 But to have it be, you know, something that's negative or to have, you know, you start to get kind of a mind virus wrapped around it where you're like, well, I don't know if I'll ever be able to do that. And then so therefore you just don't get momentum towards something. You're better off just being like, and then, you know, again, back to what Andrew was saying about like, why, like, what are you doing this for? Like I gave Andrew three different options with the run today. I was like, we can try to just run the whole thing. We can go whatever pace you want to go at we could uh walk jog and run periodically throughout the whole thing and maybe end up with like 10 runs and then he told me what his goal was his goal was just to
Starting point is 01:00:38 be able to run three to five miles without it like feeling like it's killing him and i was like well i think the walk jog run will probably be you know our best option so we settled in on that so to try to think about what is this for you know what are you trying to do like zach bitter set world records in ultra marathons zach bitter has a hard time like bending hip hinging from the waist to like bend downward yeah um that's that requirement of being able to you know sit back into your hamstrings and be able to move real fluently the way that you would think somebody would move that's a pretty proficient runner isn't really a requirement of that sport not saying that he should ignore it and not have it at all and he doesn't ignore it he trains it and he works on it
Starting point is 01:01:29 and he's always working on getting better but again it's like if your concentration is in this particular realm and this is the thing that you want to do and you're interested in it you will go after it so hard it'll be to the detriment of other stuff and you have to do and you're interested in it, you will go after it so hard, it'll be to the detriment of other stuff. And you have to be kind of okay with that. But it's also to the detriment of that other stuff just for a little while. You also, it also doesn't have to be to the detriment of those other things. However, it most likely would take you longer or you might need to be more reasonable with
Starting point is 01:02:04 your goals and you might fall a little shy of your goal. I'm not saying you can't get there. You could, but it might just take a little longer. I think real quick, that's what you said there, that there's a key there. The key is the amount of time it's going to take. If you're a bodybuilder and you're like, I want to build the most amount of muscle possible, you can do that while feeling really good. But you probably need some things in your training that allow you to do a little bit more range of motion, that allow you to work on mobility, that just allow for you to move well. So that as you're going towards that direction of gaining as much muscle possible, you're not in pain.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Same thing with a powerlifter. You have to build a level of stiffness and strength, but you probably should take some time to do some of this mobility, to do some of your accessories that are going to push you to different ranges, just so that you have a good ability of movement and just so that your joints have some good ability of movement outside of the barbell. Will it take you a little bit longer to try to get to that 600 to 700 pound squat? Yeah, but you'll probably feel better while heading in that direction. And you'll probably have a bit more longevity than those who try to.
Starting point is 01:03:14 I think the best example is J. What's what's his name? J.P. Price. Not J.P. Price. J.L. Holtzworth. J.L. Holtz. Just like you did channel that in my head somehow. Dude, you did.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Yeah, JL Holdsworth. Don't do that ever again. But you knew exactly what was going on. You're going to make me say all kinds of crazy shit on here. If you guys saw the video. That was amazing. He did a Jedi mind trick on you. Don't ever do that again. What else can he do?
Starting point is 01:03:49 Fuck. That's not good. Yeah. I want out. Let's end it here. He even said that his powerlifting career was like a, I think he put it like a blaze of fire. No, not like a burning flame or something like that.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Because he went super hard and he did some crazy numbers but there wasn't anything to allow him to pull back and to work on his body so he got injured and had to dip yeah and then i remember asking him like but jl it worked you got gyms and you have you know you did have your success in powerlifting and now you transition and you're a fucking businessman you're successful and i forgot what he said but I think it was something along the lines of like, yeah, I'm like one of how many though, you know, like not a lot of people make it out this way or he had to do a lot of self-work because yeah, he was pretty fucked up. I also think the cool thing though is, okay, like Mark, you said, you know, if you're heading towards these things, it's fine if you're
Starting point is 01:04:41 heading towards them. Um, and it might just be for a while. There are a lot of guys though, because they haven't built other capacities and because they haven't built necessarily other capacities outside of whether it's bodybuilding or power lifting. And it's great if you love it, but they're still heading in that same direction without anything else. And maybe from the outside looking in, it looks like it's to be to their detriment. But you can't say if somebody enjoys something so much and that's what they like, it might not be detrimental even though it might be fucking with their body. So it might not be detrimental. But you just benched 315 without having pain. You can now run.
Starting point is 01:05:21 You have better mobility. So you're going back to the barbell but now feeling better yeah and just like i don't know what are things going to look like when i'm 50 like at the moment i'm not squatting i'm not really dead lifting that often but uh will i mess with those things again yeah sure i will and how cool will it be to be 50 and to be able to do a couple sets of five or a couple sets of 10 with 315 on a squat or deadlift uh bench press or or maybe even have another plate on there for squats or deadlifts or something like that yeah if you kind of just think about it like you're trying to play the long game
Starting point is 01:05:57 i know if you're younger you're like fuck that i'm going i'm going for it and that's okay i think you just have to kind of recognize that, you know, you might, might be leaving some other things behind. And again, I would also question your, um, I would question your level of commitment because if you're not committed the whole thing, you're not committed all the way. And you might think that you're committed all the way but you're still not so like for me my squat went from uh 9 43 to 1080 from meeting kelly stirret and that was it it didn't take long for that to happen either no it took like a week no i took uh it took like two or three years yeah it didn't take very long. You're talking about that amount of weight when you're already at that level.
Starting point is 01:06:48 And a lot of that just had to do with me just incorporating some mobility stuff. But it was also specific mobility stuff to where it was something that allowed me to move a little bit better just for the particular day. And it was just enough. It was just the right thing. It was just the right thing at the right time. But if you're not fully committed, you won't see those opportunities. You're going to be closed off to those opportunities because you are, you get fixated into your ways and you sometimes, uh, and I was that way. I needed specifically Kelly's Tourette to kind of come into my life at that point and be the guy to deliver the message even though other people came in and tried to deliver it too.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Louis, I mean, Louis would talk about stuff like that all the time. After me, every time you got to rebuild. You got to get away from the bench. You got to get away from the squat. You got to get away from the deadlift. You got to be on the sled, the reverse hyper, the glute ham raises. You got to do ab work. And no one would ever listen to him because everyone was such in a rush but if you again if you were taking your time
Starting point is 01:07:49 and we're gonna have matt winning back out here coming up and like matt is somebody that he's been around for a long time can matt still throw 700 pounds on his back raw and fucking dunk it and squat it no problem easy i would say what do you squat 500 for 20 something reps or whatever the other day right yeah did he did he break the tom platts record yeah yeah i i don't remember but i think he broke the song yeah he he fucking did a great job it was unbelievable and he got the guy can still you know bench 500 for reps and things like that. It's the only way to hang around for a long time is to keep your eyes open. And Stan Heffering is still lifting heavy.
Starting point is 01:08:39 I don't know why Stan is doing movements that I did 10 years ago and why he's using so much less weight. But he's still doing some of these things. A for effort. A for effort, yeah. Now, I see him doing some of these things. A for effort. A for effort, yeah. Now, I see him doing those suspended good mornings. Those exercises are a real motherfucker. Yeah. But that is a great movement. That movement is a really smart movement because it's a way to incorporate kind of a bastardized version of a squat and a deadlift all in kind of one movement.
Starting point is 01:09:07 But he's crushing those, man. I want to say he did did one with five plates the other day wow wait up yeah i think it's uh i think it is five plates he's probably making a lot of sound too we got to play the audio here yeah we all have stolen the stan efforting noises yep is he gonna? Like, is he about to explode? Because he gets redder and redder as the set goes by. Oh, his head, yeah. He's getting red, bro. He's like a fucking crayon right now. Jesus. I got no audio.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Boo. Really? I'll give him a like, though. Oh, maybe there's like music on there or something. All right, Andrew. Dude, the rhino's back is like something different, man. He's got extra meat. Those lats are attached like so low.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Look at that butt. Oh, hey, look at those glutes. Peeps, if you're not following the rhino, you got to follow him because a lot of people need to know about this diet. All right, Andrew. We got to play the video again. When you say start it up again and let me know when you start it. Oh, you got the noise. Oh, this one?
Starting point is 01:10:04 I got the sound, yeah. Let me know when it's about to restart well fuck i don't know just right wait for it now i just think that's great sound was that from this video or yeah that's a great sound was that from this video or a different one yeah that's from that video how come I don't have it because I
Starting point is 01:10:29 I don't know why you don't have it but I did so I just I played it a little bit yeah his back is just so now it's working thick and meaty oh fuck it
Starting point is 01:10:37 it's over but Stan is incredible he makes such weird oh he there's my post which one your post is that second post
Starting point is 01:10:46 what's going on in Stan Efferding's life where he just felt so sad where he had to lash out against me like that it's like Mark used to be so great now he's squatting
Starting point is 01:10:56 with kettlebells he's like this is bullshit Pedro's also made fun of you for that shit too I know he's like you bitch ass kettlebells yeah he did not like kettlebells he was like fuck kettlebells
Starting point is 01:11:04 that's funny yeah man I don't know mark how familiar were you with bill pearl look at the fucking arms on that yeah the only reason why this came on my red radar 92 was because uh he was uh i believe the first guy that like gave gave Doug Brignoli a break was just like, hey, come train at my gym, whatever you got to do, and then you can work out there for free or some shit like that. But no, I just saw Matt Winning had posted it as well, so I just wanted to ask you before we dipped out. My parents went to a trade show. My wife used to work for a company called, excuse me, Fitness Management Magazine. And when she was working there, there would be these like fitness expo things where there would be Life Fitness, Hammer Strength, all these companies would be
Starting point is 01:11:56 there. And Bill Pearl was there and he was with like Hammer Strength or somebody like that. And my dad doesn't know nothing you know he's like looking around checking out all the equipment he sees this older guy who's in really good shape this is like 15 years ago um actually maybe even a little longer ago yeah and my dad's kind of sizing them up my dad's like shit like this fucking guy's probably every bit the same age as me if not maybe even older and he's like excuse me sir he's like he's like you work for these guys and he goes yeah yeah i'm bill i'm bill pearl i used to be uh used to be a pro bodybuilder and you know i helped this company out and
Starting point is 01:12:37 we help outfit gyms and stuff like that and my dad's like he's like shit you're in incredible shape my dad's like you know talking to him about lifting and stuff and um anyway i see my dad like maybe an hour later and my dad's like yeah he's like i was at that booth over there and uh i was talking to some old some old guy he's like he really built like he looks crazy yeah it's like isn't it it's like bill something bill pearl like he's just saying i'm like i'm like bill pearl's a legend that's a legendary bodybuilder like that's not just some ordinary guy like working the booth you know that's cool 92 years old though like that shit yeah good for him that's wild i'm not sure if i got my names wrong but i'm not sure is it bill pearl or bill star the five to five guy some one of those guys is responsible for the five-sets-to-five, I think.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Five-star nutrition you're talking about? Five-sets-to-five reps. Oh. Yeah, yeah, five-sets-to-five reps. Five-star. I don't know. Can you look that up? That Walmart protein.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Does that look up-able? Yeah. Who created five-sets-to-five? Yeah. I could be. Maybe I'm way off. Maybe it's neither guy. Famous five-sets-to-five. I mean, it might have been created by somebody way off. Maybe it's neither guy. Famous five by five.
Starting point is 01:13:45 I mean, it might have been created by somebody, but I think it was made famous by one of those guys, Bill Pearl or Bill Starr. Maybe Bill Starr is more of a power lifter. Bill Starr. Okay, yeah, he was more of a power lifter. Fuck yeah, Google. That's what we do.
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