Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 300: Celebrating With Surprise Guests

Episode Date: January 3, 2022

300 straight weeks of the Massenomics Podcast! We were so preoccupied with whether we could do it, that we didn't stop to think if we should do it. We celebrated this momentous occasion with a 3+ hour... party including several surprise guest appearances. The Strength Co: https://www.thestrength.co/ Hybrid Performance Method: https://www.hybridperformancemethod.com/ MASS to save 5% on all training & nutrition Fusion Sports Performance: https://www.fusionsp.net/ MASS to save 20% on all FSP supplements Spud Inc: https://www.spud-inc-straps.com/ Texas Power Bars: https://www.texaspowerbars.com/

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You know, thanks for what you do with your podcasts and all the rest. You're doing a great job. Hope everybody keeps tuning in. You get a lot of good info, a lot of insights, understandings on how to get strong, how to stay strong, how to use your strength. You do a great job, dude. You make things better than they are in real life, I think.
Starting point is 00:00:15 If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! side everything massonomics here we are everyone for episode 300 of the massonomics podcast three hondo we finally made it to 300 tommy we did it amazing we're recorded live from western northeast south dakota doing this for the 300th time. Can you believe it? You know, we always said we're going to do 300 of these, and here we are.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Here we are. So the last one, we're buckled in for one last ride. It was an oddly specific number for us to pick out, but we did. One last final ride. You know what would be the most fitting way to kick off episode 300? Advertisements. Yes, advertisement. you know what would be the most fitting way to kick off episode 300 uh advertisements yes advertisement uh let's go texas power bars i think that's the perfect way to kick up kick off number 300 buddy caps first started lifting weights in the late 60s began powerlifting in the mid 70s at that time he was working for image barbell building gym equipment around 1976 a local
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Starting point is 00:02:11 Tanner, people are already taking notice of our shirts in the Discord. Did they notice that we have shirts on? They noticed that we have some special shirts on. It was episode 300. We went ahead and decided to wear shirts. Just this one time. Yeah, I wonder if they can... It's not the norm.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Can anyone see this? They might. Through their fireplace background app. They do. If you watch this on YouTube, you don't notice this, but if you watch this live on the Discord, tell them about the background. Well, we have at like three weeks ago for Christmas,
Starting point is 00:02:45 discord offered the option of putting up a fireplace background, which I could not turn down. And, uh, now when we turn on discord, it's immediately before we start. And so I haven't taken the time to research how to turn off the fireplace background. So we're permanently recording inside a fireplace. Now. I like the suggestion that you asked how do we get rid of it and someone said dump water on it. Oh, never thought of that. Well Tanner, we have a very busy night tonight. We do. Like very busy. We've got a lot of stops on
Starting point is 00:03:14 our tour, don't we? We're going to talk to a lot of people. East coast, west coast, north, south, central, somewhere else. Pretty much all the time zones. You could say everywhere. We're doing them all so what do we talk about this what we're wearing first or do we jump into well it is the 300th episode maybe we should get that okay so 300 300th episode we want to do something special which there's going to be a lot of special things probably happening over the next
Starting point is 00:03:40 i don't know probably close to two hours if i had to guesstimate buckle in this might be a long one but we wanted to do something special for the massonomics podcast supporters not even I should say fans of the podcast friends of the podcast because there's a there's there's some diehards out there so what we did is we came up with the special
Starting point is 00:04:00 limited edition massonomics commemorative 300 episode box set and what's it a box set what's all in this box what's in that yeah what is in that what's in the box exactly and the first thing is is the massonomics limited edition podcast t which has me and you uh flexing on this real life likenesses real life likenesses flexing on a pile of rubble and debris. There's signs that say cool beans. Tanner, you're holding a podcast mic.
Starting point is 00:04:32 There's speakers underneath us. There's a can of some sort. Like in a real post-apocalyptic setting we're in here. Smoke in the background. We're looking pretty triumphant on it. It says the Mastonomicsics podcast the lifting podcast about nothing that's what is what they say so that's item one that's item one in the box set item two is that they're silly pint you're holding yeah and we have not had silly pints available for some time now and uh they're back but only as a part of the box set yep so silly point is item number two it's a
Starting point is 00:05:12 fine blue orange yellow tie-dye yep that's what it is with the same artwork one color of us on it so you have now you can drink from a cup with us flexing on it which i think is what most people wanted yeah they made our muscles a little smaller than they are in your life that was the biggest thing i'm like okay we're tan and i were kind of modest. So, like, we better tone down the muscle mass on this one. So, yeah, we took it down a notch just so people wouldn't be so intimidated while they're drinking out of the water, drinking out of the cup. And that's item number two. Item number three is. Not pictured here today.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Not pictured, but a medium-sized banner. Yes. Flag. Flag. Flag's probably the proper term yes of the same artwork so you can also have basically a poster flag yeah it's like poster size you know it's uh like 24 by 20 something like that you know so it's about 24 inches two you know you can fit it in more convenient spots in your gym or your house living room yes we didn't know if anyone wanted a full five footfoot-wide banner of our licenses on it.
Starting point is 00:06:08 So it's kind of a, yeah, it could work great in the office. It could go almost anywhere. So that's item number three. And then also this is a limited edition set. Item number four, probably the most important item in the whole thing. How many are there in this set? So this is a 50, limited edition 50 run set yeah of the box set and you will get a limited edition card numbered with your number of 50 um these are going to go for
Starting point is 00:06:36 sale as the time you're hearing this they go for sale the day this comes out yeah so january 3rd yeah um what time are they going to go for sale well typically yeah people that are we typically go for sale in the afternoon sometimes so if you're listening to this if you're in the know you know that typically it might be a little sooner if you're paying attention yep so um stay tuned for that it'll be available as this comes out if you're listening live you got a few days is monday so yeah monday for anyone that's confused about what day the third is yep that's the day to look out for it i'm excited then there's only 50 but i think i believe uh the description is you know they the mold was broken after it was made. It was cast into the fire.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Cast and the mold was then broken so they can never be made again. That reminds me of the old commercials when they're selling, I don't know, some gold coin that's not real. They always have to be like, also, this is not real currency. Yeah, I forgot about those commercials for commemorative.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Yeah, like all those commemorative coins. Did you really break the mold? Did you really shatter the mold? I totally forgot there used to be like... All those commemorative coins. Did you really break the mold? Like, was it... Did you really shatter the mold after it was... I totally forgot there used to be commercials on TV for commemorative coins. And then it always was like, this is not real legal currency.
Starting point is 00:07:53 It's not legal tender. Yeah. But it is commemorative. It is commemorative. And it is gold. I love gold! I do too. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Should we get a, we're going to call several people today. We're going to do several brief calls. Kind of just like distance bill is checking. Yeah. Check in with some people, you know, it's been 300 going to the moon straight to the moon.
Starting point is 00:08:21 We're going to check in with several people, just short conversations. just have some fun you know some people that have been along with the ride uh with us in some way shape or form over the last 300 episodes and we'll do reminiscing with them you know some reminiscing in between some reminiscing after yeah just a lot of reminiscing so should we do that? Let's do it. Okay, first let's call our friend Huck Finn. Let's see what he says here.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Maybe. i have to move from second line we'll just luckily we've got a long list so we can just continue to rotate people through i think they're on the phone. Hello? Big Tom. Are we going live immediately? We are live. We are loaded in my office right now. Gentlemen, you have an uninvited guest.
Starting point is 00:09:42 It's Mrs. Bartle. I heard that Tommy and Tanner were on the phone, and I said, why aren't they calling me? I want to talk. I'm playing Conway Twitty. We've been drinking for hours. You're both welcome. Is Callis there, too, yet?
Starting point is 00:09:56 Callis ain't coming. It's too snowy here. Oh, my goodness. We're going to do a live. We're going to do a phone thing, just like we're doing with you guys. In South Dakota, we don't worry about a little snow. No, it could be two foot of snow on the ground. This fucking show must go on.
Starting point is 00:10:09 We get a couple inches here in every FedEx truck in the county. Fucking falls off the road in my driveway. We have three trucks out of our driveway today alone. Driveway, not like road. That's city folk driving. Yeah. Right, brother. And Mechanic is here, but he went outside to pee. And smoke. And smoke. It's city folk driving. Yeah. Right, brother. And Mechanic is here
Starting point is 00:10:26 but he went outside to pee. And smoke. And smoke. It's his birthday. Oh, well happy birthday, Mechanic. He is very hammered. I think he's outside laying in the snow now. Gentlemen, I miss you. I hope I see you at the Arnold. Yeah, my wife keeps talking about you assholes.
Starting point is 00:10:42 That's why we called. We were hoping to talk you guys into going to the Arnold this year. Well, I always get defensive because if you know the Mathenomics, but you don't know specifically Tommy or Tina, then you don't know Mathenomics, and fuck you. Jesus, she's very thin. She loves Mathenomics. I watched the Let's Get Stupid podcast last week,
Starting point is 00:11:05 and I was disappointed. I said, you motherfuckers. It was bad that Kallus is putting you guys down. Wasn't that two weeks ago? At least call him Tommy. Don't say that one guy with the hair. You've got a fan over here. That's women in Mastodonics.
Starting point is 00:11:22 That's usually how it goes for us. She's probably one of our top five women fans because we've got five. That's the same Masonomics. That's usually how it goes for us. She's probably one of our top five women fans because we've got five. That's the same bullshit that we run into. We've got about three. So the three of us have five. I'm one of each of yours. We are hoping that
Starting point is 00:11:39 you guys, are you guys still thinking about the Arnold then? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Fuck, man. I've almost died there several times. I'm willing to give another still thinking about the Arnold then? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, fuck, man. I've almost died there several times. I'm willing to give it another try. I'd really go out there again. Randy Couture shows up and starts ripping your ponytail off.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Rips the ponytail off, chokes me out in the next year. What's he going to do next? Yeah, and who was the other guy? Brandon Popeye Perdue? Wasn't he hanging around too? Oh, yeah. Popeye Perdue was hanging't he hanging around too? Oh, yeah. Popeye Perdue was hanging around big time. Shit, that guy's nuts. Popeye?
Starting point is 00:12:10 He got thrown on every strip club this side of the Mississippi River. I do remember you, you know, kind of in that entryway of the Arnold, kind of before you go into the main convention center where they got, like, USAPL powerlifting meets going on. yeah yeah over the hallway where yeah kilos isn't you yeah yeah I do remember seeing you there being pretty intoxicated one of those nights the last year doing the worm on the uh yeah I don't buy that guys come on you guys had like an endless supply of beer and monster like it was never endingending. It's so true. So Monster hooked us up with
Starting point is 00:12:47 Monster and their cooler, the traveling cooler on wheels. And then we were smart enough to just bring in like 25 cases of Miller Lite when we unloaded our shirts and shit. So we had that hidden all over our booth when we came in. So after the second day, I think we needed
Starting point is 00:13:03 some kids to come in and sneak us in like 10 more cases remember we weren't allowed to load the coolers or the ice once the doors opened it was like a big no no you had to be ready and i was the only shithead like drunker than hell and hungover as hell but you know i manned booth ahead of hours. Tom got drug out of the hotel bed. All the other guys. Every morning, you had to get me out of bed. Karen's already there. Later than the show started. I'm staggering in
Starting point is 00:13:34 and people are like, I got a picture of you. Abominations. You're not allowed to bring beer, ice, whatever, once the show opens. And hell, I was Ubering over there, so I didn't have any access. We were smuggling ice in. We had guys smuggling. Yeah, I was laying
Starting point is 00:13:50 in bed with the world's strongest dwarf, naked. He's helping me to bed to get me up in the morning. God, I love that trip. Jared, is that his name? Yeah, Jared. Yeah, Jared, yeah. Jared slept in the baby's bed the night before.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Yeah, we have video of that. I remember getting him out of the baby's bed, the crib. Then I threw him in the truck. Oh, because I took the kids home first. Yeah, you took them to Ohio first to your brother's house. And I traveled with the World's Strongest Dwarf. And all I remember was him saying, no, I haven't drank in five years. So I got a terrible problem with,
Starting point is 00:14:27 uh, booze and drugs. And I said, dude, I think I might be the wrong guy. We're going to go out there and have to bring this time of all time. And then it's going to trigger. He goes,
Starting point is 00:14:38 no, I'm fine. Well, we come home and like a week later, he's fucking chugging alcohol. Like no other. I really, I fuck him up big
Starting point is 00:14:45 time i'm not proud of it but hey what's the deal once and for all we had some people asking us again they they said that you know we came out with these silicone pint cups and then you kind of ripped us off a little bit after and came out with a version of your own is that right i know we try to say we came out with it first. We know you guys did. We try to rename it, you know, the boob cup. The first? No. Of course it is.
Starting point is 00:15:13 He's just joking with us. Mrs. Margo is very toxic. I'm celebrating my birthday, so I am two bottles of Prosecco in. So forget me. Well, we're celebrating because it's our 300th podcast episode. Congratulations! 300 podcasts on the drain!
Starting point is 00:15:32 It's like we're in a fucking Peace Corps! How does that feel? You at least have guys who donate. What is it called? Yeah, supporting members. You really follow these guys. I really members. Supporting members of the podcast. You really follow these guys. I really do. I really like
Starting point is 00:15:48 them a lot. You have Mason Ivey's gear upstairs? Well, Karen, I'm glad you brought it up. We actually wanted to talk to you about maybe you stop printing Huck Finn barbell apparel and we turn the shop into
Starting point is 00:16:03 a Mason Ivey's mess. Can I tell you that Adam Field of A-Man has already tried to convert me to him too. God damn. All these guys. You're in high demand. Just get poached over here. John Ballett, downstate Illinois has also tried to steal me. I'm getting kind of good at
Starting point is 00:16:20 She's a workhorse. Tom better watch out. You better start. She's turned out to sell now. So like, I think you guys know that I was a teacher for a long time and I only kind of got in right when we started the apparel business, even though Tom was a known name for several years ahead of that. But when I met you guys that one March, fuck, I had only been in it for seven months. You're one of the first people I know, so I hold you
Starting point is 00:16:48 like, I'm like, oh, these are my friends. These are my coworkers. This is Borbo Masonomics Podcast. You stayed in the bar. Right? Dan, you want to get on too? I'll take some of that.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I'll go to the bar. Dan just got back. To me, it's awesome to know you guys. I feel like we have so much in common, even though we just shared that one weekend. God, cut me off, guys. I'm drunk. That one weekend.
Starting point is 00:17:17 That one weekend's a fucking awesome weekend. Yep, and I think we need to do it again. There's still spots in that aisle. Live Large is in that same aisle you took that goddamn corner spot with the tooth left yeah we were eyeing that last year until they cancelled it
Starting point is 00:17:34 yeah I know it so what's going on Massanomics I mean we haven't even got into anything what are you guys doing out there we're just? 300 episodes? That drink spotter.
Starting point is 00:17:46 No, we're celebrating 300 episodes. Yeah, you've been using that drink spotter. Jesus, Karen, enough of fucking blowing masonomics up. That drink spotter's the coolest thing in the world. We knew you'd like the drink spotter. It is. Do you leave it on your rack? Oh, it's always on the rack.
Starting point is 00:18:05 It's there right now. It's on my bedside. It's on Karen's bedside. It's on her nightstand right now. That's where she keeps her picture of the Mastodonics guys. She's got the Mastodonics crew up there. She's got the little drink on the headboard
Starting point is 00:18:20 and the beer. When I'm reeling her doggies down, she grabs her a beer, you know? Perfect setup. You caught it at rare four, guys. Yeah, that's perfect. I talked the gentleman into drinking with me tonight. Hold on a second.
Starting point is 00:18:38 I've got to make a drink. Here, take the phone. I've got to make a drink. I've got a bar over here. You're going to have to start pulling screens and getting ready for the arnold though you're gonna have to bring a lot of shirts to sell i don't know if you remember karen but your folding job was top notch the last time we were there uh oh you guys are cute there's a lot there's a lot of t-shirt folding that needs
Starting point is 00:18:57 to happen between now and then too this is like such an unfriendly like how about a boring thing but like i have tennis elbow How are you guys doing? My elbow's terrible. These guys aren't pulling. That's why we need to talk you into converting to the massonomics. Do you pay...
Starting point is 00:19:18 You guys aren't pulling? No, we have some... These guys aren't pulling. Let's talk to somebody who's pulling ink. Hey, you guys got tennis elbow yet? Oh, you guys are pulling? They're pulling their dicks right now.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Her cortisone chest you guys have in your elbows. No, no. I need a higher fucking help. Yeah, Karen needs a fifth of alcohol before she goes out there to work every night. Her elbows are going. She's going to get bionic elbows. Can't wait for the fucking handjob. Yeah, for that.
Starting point is 00:19:49 This summer, once the snow melts and it gets a little nicer, you need to hook up that camper and bring it to South Dakota. Hey, we're coming out there for real. We're going last and I already said that we have to come visit you. Tell them to go to the Rockies. We're going out to the Rockies this summer. What a mess it all makes. first week of June, brother.
Starting point is 00:20:06 First two weeks of June. All right. I'm buying a brand new truck, and we're going to head out west, my friend. All right. It's on the calendar. Look for us to definitely stop. Yep. Do it.
Starting point is 00:20:16 We'll make sure you got a place to hook up the camper, and we'll be good to go. Now, where are you guys located at again? Southwestern, eastern North Dakota? Western, northeast South Dakota. Somewhere out there. now where are you guys located at again southwestern eastern north dakota western northeast south dakota somewhere out there if you if you want to you might find it if you want to plug it into your trip it's probably easier to look for aberdeen south dakota but aberdeen south dakota yep then we're brock lesnar's room just just down the road we're sure we're still trying to get him on the podcast yeah bro. Brock Lesnar.
Starting point is 00:20:46 These guys are famous out there in North Dakota, South Dakota. I don't know. What else do you guys have on the podcast tonight? Oh, we can't spill the beans. Anybody cool or not, come in here. Oh, no. Mrs. Barbell, obviously. We're talking to Dan Bell here soon.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Dan's going to laugh the whole time. Joe Sullivan. We got several good ones coming up here so on the same podcast yeah we're doing quick ones that's why yeah we're gonna have to cut you out yeah because you can't cut us off we're partying baby i've been playing my whole night around calling you guys you know what callous mentioned to me i think just earlier today is that soon we do a podcast where it's kind of a co-podcast, where it's a let's get stupid slash Masonomics podcast. A co-podcast? Well, yeah, we call each other.
Starting point is 00:21:36 We didn't even know your guys' names last week. Did you hear that bullshit? We've already gone over this. I grew a fit about that. She's very upset with Tom not knowing your guys' names. No, but I think that was two weeks ago because then last week, didn't he kind of... Because he was mad we didn't give him info
Starting point is 00:21:53 on the video set up. Then I talked to him about it. That was the first of the last weeks, yeah. Okay. Two weeks I was mad because my mentioned by name goddamn mass economics how's that gym going on out there real good when when you're here we'll make sure to get you in there and get a get a few videos we got uh any anything you can come up with we'll do it inside the gym it's a free like the gym on fire. I think I can in a controlled situation.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Controlled fire. Yeah, not a whole fire. Controlled fire. Yeah. Fire is not off the table. If it's okay, then yeah, definitely. We're definitely gonna stop in there for real. We'll make a make a little how close to Mount Rushmore.
Starting point is 00:22:39 You guys are you guys? Well, short five hours away is all it's kind of it's the opposite corner kind of but we'll point you in the right we'll point you in the right direction when you leave yeah that's no big deal how far from denver uh 12 yeah about six more hours yeah yeah but all right tom that's good yeah hey it's good to hear we appreciate. We'll be talking to you soon. We'll get a podcast together, a little Let's Get Stupid Massonomics, do all in one sort of deal. I'm in, and we got to do my podcast right now after we get done with this one.
Starting point is 00:23:18 I don't know how good that's going to be. That's going to be bad if we're in this kind of shit. Since we're in this bar, I got to keep her off the phone. Oh, fuck it, y'all. She's going to be fucking making fun of Kalis the whole goddamn episode. You guys don't know the Mastodonics guys. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:23:32 You don't get a phone time and you can't make fun of us here. Karen, make sure to really lay into them when you get on the phone with them. I'm sure she will. You're my best gentleman. That's good stuff. That's Arnold.
Starting point is 00:23:45 All right, guys. I'll see you guys later. Happy birthday. Massanomics podcast. Okay. Bye. Should we start dishing them out already? Everyone's first serving cool beans.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Aren't the hardest challenge with this? We're already remembering, it's really hard to... Getting them off, if you know what I mean. It's always tough getting someone off. Tanner, are you working up a thirst at all? I am. So I did something special for us here. Actually, not that special, but kind of special.
Starting point is 00:24:15 300 episode special? Do I need to protect him? No, I'd say typically I don't give you a choice, but tonight I brought a smorgasbord of products. Oh, hello. We have, I have a hint. I have a feeling what direction you're going to go with this, Tanner, but I'm going to still show you the options. All right.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Kind of going back into the vault here. Okay. You. Ugly birthday cake. Okay. Okay. I'm intrigued. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:39 And I should say right now, you're not limited to just one tonight. Interesting thing. My wife got me a 48 pack of ugly water oh yeah for christmas what flavor was that uh a case of cherry cola and a case of uh i'm not going to tell you that their flavor oh okay okay you tricky bastard you tricky son of a bitch you tried to get it out of me yeah yeah okay uh we also have an ultra good we have a bud light lemonade seltzer that's not my top two we have a another cherry cola from ugly um those are just some of the flavors i have so i don't i'm gonna go with the cherry cola okay yep i don't blame you i do not blame you i could not pass
Starting point is 00:25:17 i saw that sit in the back of my fridge wait i have one of those left still i cannot not have this if it's a choice they're pretty damn damn good. And this is a pounder. It is. Use the correct... It is a pounder. Masonomics vernacular. Came in a flat. Oh.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Oh, crap. I hope this phone's waterproof. I hope it's partially waterproof. I saw someone in the Discord saying, I'm picking up a flat of bang pounders. Which is really funny. It's a funny sentence. Because, yeah, that's the correct terminology,
Starting point is 00:25:45 but I've never heard anyone refer to bangs in such a nature. That's damn good. It's good. Every time that is really damn good. All right. Should we get another one? Another one? Unless I should read an ad quick.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Maybe we should do an ad quick. You never know. All right. This episode of the massonomics podcast, I should say the 300th episode of the massonomics Podcast, is also brought to you by the Strength Co. Grant Brogy was born in the late 80s, nearly two decades after buddy caps began lifting. In the late 90s, Grant's brother Jordan bought him the new encyclopedia of modern bodybuilding by Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Grant's love for weightlifting began. In 2001, Grant joined the local YMCA and began
Starting point is 00:26:25 training with weights. In 2009, Grant discovered the book Starting Strength, and in 2012, as lieutenant in the Marine Corps, he began teaching Marines this method. In 2017, Grant opened his first gym in Costa Mesa, California, and the Strength Co. was born. In 2020, during a major iron shortage, Grant sought to bring back quality manufacturing of Olympic barbell plates to America. His innovation, adaptation, and can-do attitude brought about the greatest plates made in decades. The plates were accurate, antifragile,
Starting point is 00:26:56 and instantly became the go-to plates of hundreds of lifters at Masonomics Gym. You can check out the plates for yourself at thestrengthco.comcom next stop on the tour is uh gonna take us to joe sullivan joe did warn me earlier that he is in an airport stuck in an airport it could be even be going through security as we call him so okay we'll just try it see if we get a hold of him see what he says see if he's getting the full pat down or something. Please leave your message for... Well, we won't try him then right now.
Starting point is 00:27:36 I guess we'll bump him down the list. Yeah. I was going to ask you, did you get anything else special for Christmas? Oh, yeah, I did want to talk about Christmas. I wanted to talk about the, uh, the ugly water. That was kind of important on my list. Very pertinent to the mass economics podcast.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Christmas. I got a new pair of moccasins, you know, those things after like a year, the strings are all cut out. Yep. Another pair. Classic.
Starting point is 00:27:59 It's kind of becoming like an annual thing for me. Got one of those, you know, you get the gift cards. Like you always, I should say also, I've only done half of my christmas our other half is in like two days here so okay um got a roomba got a roomba nice and do you have one i can't remember talking about this we've talked about it okay or but um yeah no i mean i i'm i'm in my family we've talked about getting one before we i don't think we've yes so that. Yes, so we got a Roomba, and because my wife and I both absolutely hate vacuuming.
Starting point is 00:28:30 We hate it. We hate doing it. It sucks. And we have a dog with long hair. He doesn't shed, but he has long hair, which means when he runs outside, he's bringing stuff in. And then you have a baby, which also means stuff's all over the floor all the time.
Starting point is 00:28:43 So I'm like, anything we can do in our life to make the vacuuming thing, like, not really a thing as much anymore. And I'm pretty happy with it. You know, I just set it to go at, like. Set it and forget it. Set it to go at 9 a.m. And then the other day I'm sitting down here. I'm like, it's 9.30. I don't hear that damn thing roaming around up there.
Starting point is 00:28:59 I go up. It already did, like, two rooms. And they're like, the carpet's looking perfectly. Perfectly. Manicured. Because it was going in perfect rows like yeah like it's a farmer just going through and i'm like life is good making good rounds yeah it was making great rounds and the dog's just like looking at laying on the couch just looking at it like whatever man and so uh that was kind of a highlight for me as lame as it's as lame as uh getting a vacuum can be for a highlight and um yeah i mean i got other things too but i don't know probably nothing that's that exciting or worth sharing so what
Starting point is 00:29:32 about you the i was pretty excited about i did also the usually i have the minnetonka this year my wife got me sorrel uh slippers they're very nice probably a step up on the quality level probably i'm really used to the minnetonka though you know it's this it's an adjustment to go from the minnetonka to the sorrels and uh i like those though those those are nice um my favorite gift that i got though which this is i was thinking this had a massonomics uh podcast reference though to um skinny andy our friend andy over at skinny india studios i had been telling my wife since we moved in our new house that i really wanted a big picture of
Starting point is 00:30:09 our old house to like hang on the wall and just so we because it's fun to just be like ah remember all the old memories at the old house and she one-upped me and uh got skinny india studios to paint me uh and his his uh uh i don't know if inspiration is the right word but like the the the style that he painted it in his his style that he used was the office pam right right painting watercolor that was his like inspiration yeah that was like yeah that was the direction he used and i like it even more knowing that you know i just i really liked that yep i did see that like you had it in your story or something or maybe whatever but yeah it was cool so i really liked that but uh most exciting was uh i got my we got my son the papa shot uh papa shot the basketball yeah yeah you know the two returns to you yeah yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:31:02 the arcade style uh basketball thing He did battles going on. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like it's very easy to get really into that game. Are you the best in the house? I am by far the best in the house. My high scores are just nobody in the house is going to be able to run for my money anytime soon. So you have like a several-year padding before you even have to worry about a challenge. But very worthwhile
Starting point is 00:31:28 present though. Very fun. And addictive. We already have a funny thing going where it's just like, oh, just one more game and then you repeatedly say that and then all of a sudden it's been like 30 more. But the pop a shot,
Starting point is 00:31:44 really what I've already learned, the trick is you don't shoot like a... Oh, it's a totally different shot. It's a Papa Shot shot, not a basketball shot. Yeah, there's very much a Papa Shot shot. It's just a quick release. Yeah. Should we try and get someone else?
Starting point is 00:31:58 We'll come back to Joe later. We'll give him another chance to see if he's around, but I won't tell you who this one is. We'll just see. Are there two sons? Is the office in the Endermedia Galaxy? Doesn't Dwight say that? Yeah. Right. Talking about the shadow. Right. Like criticizing
Starting point is 00:32:18 her painting. Yeah. That's right. Let's see if you recognize who this is. If he answers. Shrinko, this is Grant. Big Grant, is that you? Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:32:36 It's my friends from, I don't know, somewhere in some Dakota. You know where we're at. Yeah, that's right. What's going on? Are you training right now, or what are you up to? No, I'm just out of breath from watching the Discord and trying to keep up. You're having
Starting point is 00:32:51 to scroll so hard, it's so active. Yeah, I just got some alert, and I was like, oh, yeah, and I hopped on, and I was like, man, I am way behind, so I'm sorry. It's a really active online community, so. It's vibing. Has anyone been buying your cats over there?
Starting point is 00:33:12 Yeah, it's constantly tried to, not to be confused with caps, but yeah, our cats are in high demand. I'm actually looking at two of them right now, but they're not for sale, so I'm sorry. Is there cats at the gym? I bring the cat to the gym all the time okay uh there's there's no like feral cats at the gym but uh is that a problem in california just like cats roaming the streets well there's a lot of feral cats actually around our warehouse um like a problem to enough where i took mine to the uh vat and i was like hey there's like a lot of strange cats you know running around they're
Starting point is 00:33:51 like oh we're gonna give him the special shot so he's uh he's basically on gear and uh he's been he's been performing pretty well he's an enhanced an enhanced cat could people buy would you be all right with people buying the feral cats then? Yeah, the feral cats are for sale. They're on a gift card. Grant's feral cat shop. Scratch and dent. Oh, man. Well, hey, I got to tell you, I was blown away when you said I was the most educational podcast.
Starting point is 00:34:21 As a homeschooling guy, know i never would have thought i would have made it so you know i i told mom i said mom i made it they said my podcast was educational i you could put that in your bio yeah i think and you already did and you're in i updated yeah i had to delete most drink spotter zones but you know yeah the one guy he wasn't he wasn't going to give up. He was not going to let me take that from him. I thought about messaging you and being like, hey, I'll buy some. Refund me.
Starting point is 00:34:54 But then do more sales from that guy. But, you know, it's got to be authentic for it to count. Yeah, it was authentic. Yeah, he's the winner. Yeah, he had to go to nine drink spotters to take the title. Big title. No, we were actually just talking to someone else, and we were talking about the Arnold, and you're going to be just down the opposite end of the aisle that we are.
Starting point is 00:35:14 We're excited for that. Are you getting everything ready? Yeah, trying to get everything ready. I was talking to him this week, trying to figure out exactly what I'm going to do to get a bunch of product out there. You know, you just got to send cotton t-shirts. You got to send heavy stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:30 So we're going to do a couple different things. We will bring a considerable amount of inventory. But then also when that sells out, anyone that buys at the Arnold will get free shipping of plates. So pretty, pretty screaming deal. So yeah, trying to figure that out. I think we're staying at the same place as you guys. Excellent. So yeah, it should be a good time.
Starting point is 00:35:54 So you are bringing inventory of some inventory of plates to sell them though to what they're Yeah, so I and that to bore people with the details, but I was just talking to one of big kathy's friends i don't call her big kathy by the way um big kathy from the arnold yeah yeah don't call her that it doesn't work well
Starting point is 00:36:15 i was like hey big kathy she's like what she's like no oh um but i was talking i said is there like a place people ship stuff? And she put me in touch with someone and the person said, oh yeah, just ship whatever you need here. And someone was emailing them and I said, it was Diana. I said, ask them, do they know we're talking about sending like 10,000 pounds? Right. thousand pounds right you know like is this uh it's not someone looking i don't want someone looking for site four and here comes ten thousand pounds of barbell weights right right right uh site four oh yeah so okay well i think since we're going driving there and taking our trailer i'm
Starting point is 00:37:00 probably going to buy some plates so i might have to talk to you ahead of time just to make like because it does shave on save on shipping and we're driving no matter what so yeah you guys are driving all the way all the way do we do it we get taking the trailer we did we got we paid for those decals on the trailer we got to make it worth it we got to drive across we'll put our strength co podcast on repeat and hit the road that's right i mean that's a that's what i do every day but yeah we're going to be very educated by the time we get there you'll get your master's degree glowing we're so smart yes um what's uh what's the gal's name uh that trains that you train there that she's like 86 um corky oh you mean the one that's famous on men's health
Starting point is 00:37:46 is she what did she make men's health like in the magazine yeah uh i don't know if it's gonna go to print but they published it online uh but yeah big corky's got a massonomics t-shirt which she'd wear it more but she's very uh seasonal so she's been wearing Christmas shirts. Does men's health know that she's not a man? Is that an issue? Yeah, well, I mean, in these days, things are fluid, so it doesn't really matter. Well, if she's made it to 86, then I feel like
Starting point is 00:38:16 she wouldn't be changing now. Right. I mean, it's all gender health, I think, is what they're changing to. Oh, okay. They're the ones changing. Right, right, right. Yeah, but no, Yeah, she's doing great. Yeah, that was cool.
Starting point is 00:38:31 She was pretty pumped. We did a little video on her and then we actually showed it to her before we released it. We showed it to her in the gym. Probably had about 15, 20 people in there. Everyone else was near tears like, Oh, this lady, I work out when she's 86 and she deadlifts and, uh, Corgi's like, okay,
Starting point is 00:38:52 let's go. I gotta get to work. And, you know, walks out. Yeah, that is awesome. Uh, no, that's cool. We'll be excited to see you there. Anything big changes with the business or anything that you need to tip off anyone on? You know, anything else going on? Sneak peeks, R&D department over there. Yeah, sure, sure. I'm always down to get a little thing done.
Starting point is 00:39:22 So things are constantly evolving, and someday we'll have to sit down and talk in depth. Hashtag supply chain, is that what you're going and talk in depth change hashtag supply chain is that what you're yeah hashtag supply chain you know i laugh when you guys say it and i like i'm like i know they're not kidding but they're kind of kidding yeah and i don't want to say they don't understand what they don't understand but i'm trying to be nice so like yeah it's a good joke supply chain but uh but things have changed you know in terms of for me, the biggest change and then I'll get into maybe what's coming this year. But the biggest change is automotive has come back. American domestic manufacturing for automotive has come back and screaming back after being off. back after being off and so where i used to be able to put an order in and plan uh you know about eight weeks out now i'm at about 20. those bastards at gm are throwing their yeah those those john deere dodge board never mind uh but yeah so uh so that's made it different uh in terms of
Starting point is 00:40:21 managing inventory and then as you know we ship out of Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and California so like having things being made and then distributed and packaged that's been that's been interesting but you were in a pretty good spot right now working on two new products plate wise for next year one of them is, uh, in between two products that we already have in late. And, um, yeah, I'll probably get, you know, I'll probably get kicked out of an organization that I subscribe to and, uh, you may have to delete some previous published content. Um, but yeah, that's all I can say about that guys. You know, I'll some previous published content. But, yeah, that's all I can say about that, guys. You know, I'll leave it at that.
Starting point is 00:41:10 I think that's the perfect. That's a good teaser. Yeah, that's perfect. All right. Well, that's excellent, Grant. I'm glad we got to check up with you. You know, this is episode 300, and we're happy that The Strength Co. is a big part of the Mastodonomics podcast. Hey, we're happy to be a part of it.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Thanks for the call, gents, and we'll talk to you soon. All right. See you later, Grant. Yep, later. Oh, you know what time it is? What do you get? Cool beans. Beans.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Cool beans. Cool beans. Second serving of cool beans is out. He got them, didn't he? Woo. That was fun. That was good. It's kind of actually wild. That's only the second time i've ever talked to grant in my life i okay yeah you may recognize him yeah i've talked to him a few other times on some things yeah so i know that know his voice well
Starting point is 00:41:57 know the ins and outs of his voice yeah the highs and the lows should we try joe one more time might as well maybe it'll just become a recurring thing that we can't quite get a hold of every so just in an hour he's gonna have or later tonight he's gonna have seven missed calls from us yeah we'll try him again though what the heck we ain't got nothing but time on our hands standard i'm done with work for the week so oh yeah that's right you are you're going on a little vacay, aren't you? Speaking of the Black Hills. I feel like we know Joe well enough. I don't mind if we rack up like five missed calls on his phone. He'll be like, oh, these bastards.
Starting point is 00:42:45 I hope somebody doesn't answer and we can leave a voicemail to someone. Please leave your message for those of some I thought I was going to say I didn't want anyone.
Starting point is 00:43:03 I don't want anyone to hear the phone number, so I hung up. Well, now we know if we call again, we could leave a voicemail if we need to. You know what? I wanted to throw back in. We did it for the first time last week, a special little new segment that I'm really enjoying. Oh, yeah. It's called Supporting Our Supporting Members. So we have a very active Discord community that's made up of our supporting members.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Tanner, I've heard some people say it's an active community. It is an extremely active community on the Discord. Someone threw up the Uno skip or whatever card on there. No, the Discord is a very active community. Are we ringing? Oh, Big Joe's calling. It won't let me pick up. Answer that damn thing. Tanner, answer it.
Starting point is 00:43:56 We'll do the whole... Hello, this is Joe. Big Joe, is that you? It is. It's also Brianni Terry. Oh! Two for one. Wow. Are you in an airport right now?
Starting point is 00:44:16 We are currently in an airport. I am four drinks of Maker's Mark Deep and I think Brianni is well and goodly over being in the Midwest. Where are you guys at roughly? This is Massanomics. This is the podcast. Guys, I fucking hate it here. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:44:32 What airport are you at? Flint, Michigan. Bishop, Flint, Michigan. This place is a fucking hellhole. I don't belong here. And you're in the airport? I dare you to yell bomb. You're on speaker, so that's the purpose.
Starting point is 00:44:50 So you're on your way back to Vegas then? Yeah, we are. We were here for family Christmas. Okay. Yeah, we were just calling. We're recording our 300th episode of the podcast, and we wanted to revisit with a bunch of people that have been a part of the ride over the last several
Starting point is 00:45:07 years and of course you guys were at the top of our list. We had fun. We got to hang out with you in North Dakota for a little bit this year. I still say that's one of our most magical pictures of the year. The prom photo? We lined it up. Nuts to butts prom photo? Nuts to butts.
Starting point is 00:45:34 You're getting all kinds of Midwest, Northern time in this year between Fargo and Michigan. It's not my favorite. Who'd have thought when she fell in love with such a charming character like myself, she'd end up in such wonderful areas. I didn't even think that I'd love this stupid motherfucker. I really enjoyed Brianni's review of Fargo. I believe you said, I feel like I'm in the 90s. And I kind of know exactly what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Yeah, that place sucks. Oh, is it cold and nasty in Michigan right now? It's fucking silly. This is bullshit. Yeah. That is our life. Yeah. Why do you guys do this?
Starting point is 00:46:17 Someone's got to do it. Gluttons for punishment. Fuck. God. But yeah, as I told you guys earlier, our flight is actually 3 hours and 45 minutes late it's awesome supply chain issues it's the way things are these days
Starting point is 00:46:35 with everything going on we've called a few people and we've asked some other people about it are you guys going to the Arnold this year? Do you know at this point? Probably not. You're not going to? Probably not.
Starting point is 00:46:50 I don't feel like traveling that fucking much. Well, it's not feeling like traveling. Nothing that's cool is going to be there. The cage isn't going to be there. We're going to be there. Yeah. So that's a possibility. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:03 But that's like another trip to the midwest right i could get where you're coming from if you know you've done that flight like five times in six months they probably wouldn't might not want to do it again yeah so is the animal cage for sure not going to be there that's i kind of had seen that they were i didn't see that they had a spot on the map so that was my assumption. They were talking about some other fucking fit. I don't know if I'm supposed to not say anything but I messaged them and was like
Starting point is 00:47:33 what the fuck's going on? I want to be in the cage or I would want to be in the cage. You didn't message them motherfucker. I did. No, I did too. They didn't respond to you. Yes, they did. Okay, whatever. Either way it it's not gonna happen i guess they're not gonna be at the arnold so i don't know what uh did the i'm i mean that's kind of a big deal for them not to go like for animal i think that's a big deal like that marketing standpoint yeah like that's kind of where yeah well i think because the arnold fucked all the vendors over so hard
Starting point is 00:48:05 they're like fuck you guys right right no that's interesting that's interesting i was really curious to see if they would pop up in there and like you know kind of at the last minute and still go but no they're they're not on the map so and i'm they'd have to be lining lifters up you don't let everyone need some notice on that so obviously obviously they're not going to. Exactly. It's shitty, but whatever. It's kind of playing into our hand perfectly. The Masonomics cage nowadays. Yeah, the Masonomics cage.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Everyone will be drinking sparkling waters. Sparkling waters? Just kidding. It's actually just a contest of who can black out the quickest. I'm really entertaining myself right now. Big Jonathan will be giving everyone a run for their money if that's what the competition
Starting point is 00:48:55 is. Except in shotgunning because he still fucking sucks. Brownie, you do have world-class skills there so yeah i know i'm amazing she's very good at opening her throat shut the fuck up i'm a virgin sorry mom are you guys going to any of the meets in uh florida at all here that are coming up we are we're going to be at ghost and hybrid you're going to both okay geez yeah we both have clients there so i'm gonna go see miami is there uh which which of the two meets is going
Starting point is 00:49:35 to be better i just i hear a lot of are you allowed to do yeah can you get on a black yeah right right can you go to show up at both uh fuck i don know. I feel like I'm really excited to see Hunter crush a 181 squat all-time world record in like three weeks. But then I'm also really excited for my client, Olivia, to crush it at Ghost. So I don't know. I just fucking hate Miami, so it's whatever. Yeah, and I'm cool with talking all the shit right now. So I'm pretty like, I don't give a fuck. But the hybrid me, the USBA judging is going to be way, way strict.
Starting point is 00:50:09 But Hunter lifts to a standard that she holds for herself. So I think hybrid's going to be way cooler. I think there might be bigger lifts. The WRPF Ghost Clash, I think it's going to be a great meet, but there's probably going to be fucking gifts given on the squats and whatnot as per usual. But I don't give a fuck. And if anybody has an issue with that, fucking DM me me i don't fucking care at this point jesus christ
Starting point is 00:50:28 god damn i i don't care man i don't have i don't have to impress any of these people anymore um do you do you picture you having any good battles with jordan long in 2022 on the squat world record again i i do i i actually uh i don't know if you guys can hear me over the speaker sorry um but uh no me and jordan actually talked about it we're planning on uh on meeting on the platform yet again in 2000 and uh like september 2022 uh at the meet that hasn't really been announced yet but uh that is going to happen and we're going to have the back and forth yet again um i hope and i mean he's still doing he's doing the ghost clash and i was talking to him um he's hopeful to break my record but he
Starting point is 00:51:19 hasn't he got really sick and he's got a kid and he's just got a lot of other shit going on he hasn't been as consistent as he wants to so like i'm i'm honestly i'm pulling for him to break the record there but i don't know how realistic it is for him to but whether he takes it or does it i'm excited to go head to head with him again uh next year absolutely that'll be really fun to watch yeah is the kern going away i heard some people talking about that recently uh that's kind of the reason why i was kind of like fucking i don't care if anybody wants to talk shit anymore yeah uh because if you guys saw that post i made where i was critiquing the uh the pro powerlifting circuit or whatnot we still don't know if the kern is happening because the wrpf is being incredibly
Starting point is 00:52:02 vague on their announcements um and i was told i i spoke with Ryan Rubio, who's like the event coordinator for them. And he told me to plan for the Kern when I asked him in like September. And then when we were at Record Breakers in December, he told me the Kern was definitely off and not happening. And then like two weeks ago, he told me to, or no, I saw on instagram that they were planning to announce the kern so i have no idea the gym is closed i haven't seen anything about it and honestly like think about the timing if if ghost is the ppc which is in february it's not
Starting point is 00:52:38 okay yeah so it's not anymore so well even even still they were planning on it being ghost being ppc in february then the kern being in april which is like two months away Yeah, so it's not anymore. So, well, even still, they were planning on it being Ghost being PPC in February, then the Kern being in April, which is like two months away, and then the American Pro, whatever that is, in Virginia was in July, which is like two and a half months away. Why would the circuit be only in a six-month span? That doesn't make much sense. So I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:53:06 I don't know if the current is happening. I have no clue. Well, we'll keep our ears out. Okay. Well, that's good stuff. We're probably going to... We're excited to talk to you. I guess we probably won't see you at the Arnold then this year,
Starting point is 00:53:22 but hopefully sometime in 2022, whether it's a showdown or somewhere along the road, we'll get to run into you again. Are you guys going to be at that Fargo meet again or no? In March? It's not in Fargo. It's big of the North. It's like Dickinson.
Starting point is 00:53:39 That's tricky for us since it is real close to the Arnold too. And it's like trying to, and we drive to ohio and getting back and it's kind of a mess so i'm not sure we haven't ruled it out i would say but are you why are you guys going to be there for that again yeah we are that's why that's why we're kind of like not planning on the arnold right because i i'm we're coaching in portland like march 12th and then we're also coaching in Dickinson March 26th. That's a lot of traveling.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, who knows? Maybe we will be there. I mean, if you're going, we might have to come just to see you. Yeah, no kidding. Hell yeah, brother.
Starting point is 00:54:16 We'll be there. We got one follow-up question for Brianni since she surprised us on this. I believe when we had the podcast with you, your answer to Joe Sullivan being overrated or underrated was that he was overrated. Are you still sticking with that stance, or has that changed? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:54:36 All right, we got to keep that update. That's good to know. This motherfucker does not let me go a day without hearing that he squatted an 837. I'm so tired of it. All right. Well, no, that's cool. You both are probably going to get cool beans for your efforts tonight, so good work.
Starting point is 00:54:55 I'm super, super satisfied. I want one of those fucking massonomics things, like the fight cards or whatever. Oh. Yeah, I want to be cool enough for one of those. Oh, versus? Oh, okay. Funny that Joe's one of the few people that's actually had two. I'm fucking real, guys.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Yeah, okay. Who did I go against? Who did I go against? Sully from Monsters, Inc. And then that was the first one. But then the other one, it was Tiger King. It was Joe Exotic. Yeah, and that ended up being, because it was so timely
Starting point is 00:55:34 and how popular Tiger King was, that one ended up being one of our more popular ones, I think, the Joe Exotic one. And there was a good picture of you with a handlebar mustache that we used and stuff, too. So that one was pretty killer. Actually. I want one of those. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Okay. Well, we'll get our R and D department on that. Brianna Terry versus Terry Cruz. That's pretty good. That is. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Yeah. I would win. I would win. Well, we'll let the mass dynamics versus decide that. Sounds good guys. All right. Cool. versus decide that. Sounds good, guys. All right. Cool.
Starting point is 00:56:06 See you later. All right. Bye. See, I flip flop the beans on him there. Yeah. Served up. Still double. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Still double. But I came in with dessert first and then the main course yeah see massonomics versus i wouldn't say it's uh extinct but it's yeah it's at first i was thinking rookie card well that's what i was thinking too which actually isn't a bad idea either but uh versus yeah we don't versus and the rook you know really for several years these three coincided and it was kind of the three headed spear of mass nomics, Instagram content.
Starting point is 00:56:48 You could say it was the ultimate death weapon. It was, it was the versus was the cornerstone. Yeah. And then there was the rookie card and then the slightly less frequent, but also consistent consistently used was the lifting legends post. That's right. I was thinking about those the other day.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Yeah, we have a pretty extensive collection of the verses we have hundreds there might even be over a couple hundred massonomics versus the rookie card and the rookie card there could be a hundred there has to be close to a hundred lifting legends yeah there's probably almost a hundred lifting legends and if you haven't been following massonomics for several years you might not even know that well but those were really like... You were going to get at least two of those a week. Yes, yes. If not more.
Starting point is 00:57:32 For many years on end. And those, why did those go away? It seemed like maybe they were being, maybe it was played out or maybe... Maybe they were being shadow banned. Maybe they were being shadow banned maybe they were being shadow banned also part of it is if you start to run out of the low-hanging fruit yeah and yeah most people that were more relevant to us there was obviously other people but it's not people that we knew as well or were aware i would say that the massomics verses will always have a special place in uh
Starting point is 00:58:02 in my heart though i really did feel like that was one of the first things that really got a lot of traction some of the years like at our first years at the arnold even people would be like you guys are like people would be like you guys are the ones that do the thing where you compare the one thing on the one side and the other on the other like forgot about that yeah like that was what people knew us from even at that uh at that point wow so i would love i would love for mass dynamics verses to make a strong comeback maybe we just need to force feed it down we actually have done enough new interviews with guests that probably don't have verses now that's true i would think
Starting point is 00:58:36 about it yeah i mean in the last couple years there's been a lot of people become relevant that we probably didn't even know existed prior to that. Bring it back. Bring it back. That's what the people want for 2022. You know, I kept trying to tell myself to mention, like, in the YouTube comment section because people will say, you know, make sure to comment. Leave a comment. So if you're watching this on YouTube, make sure to drop a comment.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Let us know who you'd like to see in the Mass Comics Versus. I'd love to see that come back. Yeah. We could do really pump some of the reruns out to, you know, it's funny. The greatest, it's a deep library.
Starting point is 00:59:13 It is. And there's some time. We're like freaking DJs at a radio station. That's ready to serve up hits over here. The lifting legends. Those really took a little while to put together. And some people really liked those two like really liked them there's some of the old school power lifters that's like vince anello um am i saying that right vince it's a no yeah i can't think of him now he
Starting point is 00:59:38 loved when we made a lift like he will still still message to this day about that lifting legend. That was like one of the very few things we've ever had where people get into like serious discussions in the comment section. Right. Oh, yes, I trained with so-and-so from 80 to 84. I saw him do this, this, and this in training. Right. Wow, that's so cool.
Starting point is 01:00:00 I can't believe you. Yeah, Beck, I was there in 1992 when he squatted that 946. Yeah, at the AAU finals in 78. They were like, whoa. You people are allowed to be on the internet now? Yeah. It's wild, man. Lifting Legends isn't perfectly on brand for massonomics.
Starting point is 01:00:17 It's the only issue with Lifting Legends, I would say. It has changed a little bit. Because there's really nothing humorous about Lifting Legends. Not really. Is there? I mean, some of their get-ups were a little humorous. Like the singlets of like, who is one of those? Bruce Wilhelm.
Starting point is 01:00:35 The singlets that went down to the belly button and also went inside your nipples. Yeah, if you Google like Bruce Wilhelm, there's some pretty funny ones of him. Yeah, good stuff. Do you want to funny ones of him. Yeah, good stuff. Do you want to hear from another sponsor? Yeah, another sponsor. I wanted to tell you guys today about hybrid performance method. Is that all right? Did you?
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Starting point is 01:02:02 on Bitcoin with code MASS. Tanner, did you know Aberdeen has a bitcoin atm where you can buy bitcoin no it's at believe it or not one of the gas stations in town really is that a legitimate way of purchasing bitcoin like apparently my brothers explain one of my brothers was telling me about it and he said yes in the city he lives in there's multiple bitcoin atms atms probably not the right term but bitcoin terminal right whatever you refer to it as dollar bills and you buy a fractional amount of a forty thousand dollar bitcoin and where does it does it go into a digital wallet somewhere i believe so yeah but so you do you have to have that set up prior to going i think that has to be in place before yeah it's probably through a certain um
Starting point is 01:02:45 you know through whatever the i don't know well enough but the digital wallet company you know yeah that's what i don't know i'm not i don't understand i don't know well the digital wallet part of it and i don't really care so that doesn't or like big jess says it might just give you a physical bitcoin i guess i haven't done it maybe an actual maybe an actual Bitcoin comes out I'll take one Bitcoin sir doesn't that really feel like it would be counter productive to the process
Starting point is 01:03:14 here's my dollar bills here's my Bitcoin well you can almost make an argument for like that's actually kind of what's happening anyways true here's my dollar bills that I will turn into Bitcoins that I will later turn back into dollar bills I know that's actually kind of what's happening anyways. True. Here's my dollar bills that I will turn into Bitcoins that I will later turn back into dollar bills. I know that's the whole thing, isn't it? Yep.
Starting point is 01:03:32 It's all smoke and mirrors if you ask me. It's all Bitcoins if you ask me. Would you ever, so I don't have any, well, my wife has some Bitcoin through her investing stuff. I don't know how that works though because i think that's basically through her robin hood and i you know there's not a digital wallet in that case oh yeah so i don't really know what you're buying and i know buying bitcoin through that but i'm pretty sure she has some but bitcoin's one thing would would you ever uh
Starting point is 01:03:58 would nfts like investing in nfts ever i don't see myself ever investing in nfts um i could see it's not my i could see before i would buy an nft i'd be way more likely to make and sell a massonomics nft that's where i would yeah big jeff are you is it big jeff are you the uh financial planner someone in the discord is a financial planner and it might not maybe it's not yes big jeff is on so we have a resident expert probably um if we wanted to talk about uh get into some serious financial planning and the way i understand it is a lot of uh uh really really really rich like overseas people are either trying to um like launder money or get around tax things, I think. And that's what,
Starting point is 01:04:47 that's why they're buying NFTs or it's just pure speculation. They're just hoping that one of them will go big. Right. So, so that's what it is to me, not knowing very well to me, it's just speculation. Oh,
Starting point is 01:04:55 well, that's saying it. And I'm like, that doesn't interest me. That's not how I invest. Like any of my dollars. Well, that's what all this stuff is.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Right. I mean, that's, I guess it all is to an extent. I would say in today's, when I say I i say i'm saying like in today's current world and no matter how you feel about cryptocurrency you have to say it's all speculation because people aren't using it as currency right so they're speculating on it that's the hope that's how people are making money with it is they're speculating on it so that's but as someone that is fine with capitalism i will say i
Starting point is 01:05:24 will gladly make an nft and if someone wants to pay us a hundred thousand dollars for massonomics nft for a pair of the lift shorts nft a lift shorts nft i'll 100 sell that thing to some wealthy person somewhere in the world yeah what is that a non-fungible token yeah i think that just basically means it's unique non-fungible means it's uh you know, it's, it is that unique, you know. Yeah, the way I understand it, it's like, oh, it's basically like there's a receipt. You're like buying the receipt. It can't be fungibled.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Yeah. But now people are talking about Web 3.0, Tanner. I don't know what that is. Technically, we're in Web 2.0 right now, which is kind of a dumb term, sort of. Is that like web crawler? No, no, no no no no it's just like kind of do you remember do you know what it was a search engine yeah yeah uh is it like netscape navigator was that web one no oh yeah you could probably say that but like it's more of like
Starting point is 01:06:16 people use it really loosely to kind of almost define like the eras we're into the internet yeah and now people are saying like web 3.0 is all about the blockchain and so nothing needs to be centralized because it's all goes to the blockchain so we don't need google and facebook and apple getting in the way because the blockchain will take care of all of it is there some merit there maybe is it the is it going to be the paradigm shift in the internet i don't know either it's hard to say on an infinite time scale i guess everything changes right everything except the mass economics podcast new episodes every monday that's right that's the only thing that doesn't change um do
Starting point is 01:06:51 we have another guest do you need another beverage tanner we have i don't know if you saw my cooler here but i also have a cake the birthday cake i don't think i could drink another uh ugly water now at this point one pounder of ugly it is a lot a lot of fizzy fizzy bubbler going down is it that would be something to just be pounding uh fizzy waters they'll be like yeah give me my third another now let's see who's next on the old list should we let's do it oh did it we never did supporting our supporting members oh shit yeah well yeah we got interrupted will what did we get interrupted by? Joe. Oh, Joe.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Okay. That's all the farther we've made it. Let's do another guest first. Okay. And then we'll do supporting our cliffhanger for all the supporting members of who made it this week. We are going to call. Let's try Jim McDonald. Oh.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Jim McD, as they say in the biz. His screen name. I think he's on vacation right now. Hello? Big Jim, is that you? This is me. Excellent. You're on vacation right now, aren't you?
Starting point is 01:08:04 I sure am. Well, now that you're on the right now, aren't you? I sure am. Well, now that you're on the Masonomics podcast, you're officially on vacation. Now you can finally cut loose. Yeah, exactly. Here we go. There we go. What did you just crack open? It is a beach stone bitter from sober Island brewing company,
Starting point is 01:08:30 which sober Island is probably not a place I want to visit. So is that a sparkling water or it is a, uh, it's a bitter ale. Okay. That makes sense. That makes sense. Where are you? It even says so in French.
Starting point is 01:08:41 I am in, uh, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia. Oh, Canada. Yeah, sort of southeastern Atlantic Canada. Yeah, okay. South of us. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:57 No, that's interesting. We have a pretty big Canadian contingency of listeners, so they'll be excited to hear one of our guests is officially, you know, we're phoning in from Canada. This is correct, yeah. I'm sure we do too. I know that feeling. The Canadian love, there's nothing like it. Prior to getting into this, I never would have guessed the number of listeners and number of customers buying shirts and stuff. How strong the Canadian presence would be, how big of a part of our business that would be oh yeah for sure
Starting point is 01:09:30 which is well i think they relate to us sensibilities yeah exactly exactly well i need to congratulate you guys on this 300 episodes thing you know i haven't worked on a show, a single show that went a full 300 episodes. And I think we all know who to blame for that. But anyway. We should have called you after about three more
Starting point is 01:09:58 bitter... We'll pause this. We'll come back. It could have gotten really interesting then for sure so in that in that run on that show it wasn't to 300 i would have guessed it was around that area no okay it was it was uh it was 254 uh audio episodes and 233 video episodes. They always say the last 46 audio episodes are the toughest. That is the old podcasting adage. Well, I will admit to you that there was actually an additional episode that was not published. It was
Starting point is 01:10:45 recorded the day before it all ended. And if you listen very carefully, you can hear my inner monologue saying, how the hell am I still involved with this? Yeah, yeah. So does that
Starting point is 01:11:00 audio exist somewhere still at this point? Yeah, it does. Okay. I never throw anything away, even if I should. Well, no, and it is pretty wild. And you've done aggregate much more than 300 episodes too. Seven something.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Right, right, which is wild. Yeah, that is. But it's very seven something right right which is wild that is insane um but it's very fitting for us to call you because i know we've talked about this even when we had you as a you know a full feature guest on the show but i think you know what you a lot of what you did is part of what inspired us to do a podcast so it is fun to come full circle with a lot of people and uh get to reminisce about that sort of thing that, you know, we probably wouldn't be doing this today had you not, you know, got the podcast going that you did. Well, I am very proud of what you've accomplished.
Starting point is 01:11:55 And I'd say that without, without any fear of contradiction. I'm really happy to see you guys doing well with it. Yeah, we appreciate it. And I do listen a lot of the time. Not every single episode, but I do listen a lot. Well, you'd be crazy to listen to every single episode. Sometimes we do talk about those, though, that it's like, dang, there's people out there that have listened to every single one of these. It's wild.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. dang, there's people out there that have listened to every single one of these. It's wild. Yeah, yeah. It's crazy. It's just crazy. I really enjoy 50% facts. Actually, I think it's getting better. I think you guys are continuing to improve as you go, and I really like the Topic
Starting point is 01:12:42 Thunder. You've been doing some shorter episodes that you've been mixing, putting in the mix, and it just feels like it's kind of hitting a good stride right now, kind of. Is that how you feel about it? Yeah, I appreciate you saying that. Yeah, I do. And actually, while I'm on vacation, and then Mike is actually going to be gone too, we're just running straight Topic Thunders twice a week until second week of January. And we have a lot of fun with that working while not show.
Starting point is 01:13:13 I wouldn't even call it working. It's mostly playing. We go into that. If you think we're unprepared for our regular shows, think how unprepared you can be for a 10 minute panel show in which you have, you know, well, that's funny. Cause even for this,
Starting point is 01:13:31 you know, we're, we're calling for this 300 episode. We're, we're making several calls to people that we're going to, you know, just want to talk to people for five, five or 10 minutes each.
Starting point is 01:13:39 And beforehand, as we're getting ready to record, we talked about it and said, so do we really have anything planned specifically for any of the people we're going to call and it's like no we're kind of leaning on the fact that we know all these people pretty decently already
Starting point is 01:13:53 barely enough to get through the introduction so yeah there's not enough time there to worry about that that's a fair point yeah actually I am inspired by the fact that you guys have something like a format. Because when that first show started, it all started as a roll-in. Like, I would start recording, and there was just no acknowledgement of the intro, voiceover, music, any of that stuff.
Starting point is 01:14:24 It just stepped on like a random cockroach. And we would just go. And Mike and I sort of continued that tradition. But I'm now stopping, especially if we're doing one of the media review episodes, to try to introduce everybody and introduce what we're talking about and have a little bit more structure. I like, uh,
Starting point is 01:14:51 what's Harry Potter, the bad guy's name that you don't say Voldemort, Voldemort. Well, we shouldn't really say it, but we're all saying it now. We've all said it and we shouldn't have done that. But,
Starting point is 01:15:00 um, the podcast you're referring to, it's kind of like Voldemort. We don't say the name. You're not renamed. Yeah. As long as we only use the part that starts with a
Starting point is 01:15:14 P, we're fine. Yeah, right. The powercast. Yes, the powercast. Just don't say it three times into a mirror. And never say those first two words at all, ever. That's the Voldemort. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Yeah, that's great. No, we really appreciate it, Jim. It was fun to even just get to talk to you for a couple minutes. We like what you have going. I hope the gym and the podcast and everything else you guys doing continues to do well well thank you very much yeah we're all hoping for a better 2022
Starting point is 01:15:51 everything is complicated in the gym business obviously and as I talked to you guys I know that the apparel business is more complicated than it used to be for sure yeah isn't that frustrating a little bit it's just it's just annoying and and you know we're a little more ice like the gym
Starting point is 01:16:10 business is a little more normal here in western northeast south dakota but uh it's easy for us to forget things are different in places where a lot of people live the world isn't how most of the world is right yeah and for us i think it's more that people just haven't come back to well people haven't come back to gyms the same way they have in other areas and people haven't come back to work downtown where our gyms and you know it was very it's very targeted toward that kind of state worker you know downtown employee that there used to be 90,000 a day coming downtown and others considerably less than that. Yeah. Side note, is World's Strongest Man that's planning to be in Sacramento again here this next year in 2022, I think, right? My understanding is 2022, yes, and 2023, maybe.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Okay. There's one more year on the contract, but it might not be three consecutive years okay well we're going to keep that in mind I would really love for us to get there that would be really fun and if we're able to of course we're going to look you up and we're there yeah we're literally like a mile and a half from where they held
Starting point is 01:17:20 the World's Strongest Man this year okay alright cool alright good stuff Jim we appreciate it thanks Jim held the World's Strongest Man this year. Alright, cool. Good stuff, Jim. We appreciate it. Thanks, Jim. Thanks for having me on, guys. See ya. Cool beans.
Starting point is 01:17:36 Cool beans. Cool beans. Cool beans. Cool beans. Big Jim gets the cool beans. Okay, back to supporting our supporting members should i really do it this time who's on so did i explain the supporting the supporting members okay in case someone didn't catch okay so this is a segment for all of our supporting members uh also known as our discord community a very active community uh you can get in in the part of the family just by becoming a supporting member go to our website sign up there's a few different tiers there
Starting point is 01:18:10 all of them with great exclusive benefits including possibly getting uh making supporting our supporting members now that might be the most important thing yeah as well as getting to listen to the podcast live like they are uh maybe a discount code or two in there getting access early access to drops that sort of thing so this week in supporting our supporting members this is for the discord crew big luke got engaged congratulations big big big life step there. Yep. Now, the most important thing that he'll be able to now do. My wife. It's just one of those things. It comes with the territory,
Starting point is 01:18:54 and I think he's going to really like it once he tries it out. Yep. That's why I got married. Just been a big Borat fan, and I'm like, I want to keep this going i gotta get married next one here and supporting our supporting members uh big austin turner started a podcast what so congrats on starting a podcast there's a lot that goes into that no doubt and i did a snippet of his description of it it's just two longtime friends having an open conversation about topics varying from sports,
Starting point is 01:19:26 video games, and lifetime experiences. Keep it going, man. Only 299 more to go. And then that's when you get to stop. And you too could be in this chair. Whatever this is, you could be doing this.
Starting point is 01:19:44 So that's our supporting our supporting member segment congratulations to everyone that made it well of course keep our eyes and ears out for uh who can make it in future weeks so keep stepping it up people yeah okay did you watch the new matrix movie no i didn't uh we won't i won't really okay did you watch it yeah because it's on hbl yeah yeah um i did see that was on there i okay first i don't know have we ever even talked about the matrix ever have we i don't know keanu reeves is quite beloved isn't yeah he is pretty universally loved uh okay, Matrix 1, really, really good movie. Oh, great movie. It came out like, what, 99?
Starting point is 01:20:27 So I would have saw it when I was like 10. I think we have talked. I think we've had this conversation. I think we did. Now that you're saying it, I'm like, yeah. It was like my favorite movie ever. And it's like, I clearly didn't understand like any of it, hardly at all. I got it like, yeah, robots are bad.
Starting point is 01:20:40 These people are kind of in something, but it's real, but it's not. And there's a lot of guns and fighting. That was all it took to be a fan of the movie like you didn't really get the bigger parts of what was happening a lot of it but two and three i don't think i've ever seen those outside of the theater when they first came out and i'm i would actually like to watch those again to see if they're coherent at all like do they make any sense i think a lot of times people are like they don't really make a ton of sense they get a little out there i know this one i do not know what i want i don't even know if it has to like i'm like is this even trying to make any damn sense and maybe i'm just not deep enough into the matrix you know like uh i should maybe if i would have just
Starting point is 01:21:22 re-watched all of them you took the wrong colored pills. So you just don't get it. I guess I did. I took the blue pill or whatever, because I, it, I just, it was really, it was terrible. And I went into it with such like such a, I was like, this is going to be awesome. I can't wait. And I'm like, I think it's getting kind of pretty mixed reviews at best. Isn't it? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:21:44 I don't think it's getting good reviews. I would need someone that really understands it to explain it to me. And then I would still probably think I'd be like, okay, are you sure that that's what it means? Because I don't even know if it's even possible for this to make sense at this point. Yeah. I still. I need to watch it. Did it look cool? did it look cool?
Starting point is 01:22:05 Did it look cool? Yeah. Even a little hesitant. It's just like all it. It's such a riff off of itself. Okay. It almost feels like it's a parody of the main. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Yeah. Well, and I won't even say anything else, but it is. Well, in some ways, kind of do that a little? Weren't they? I mean, I think that was the point.
Starting point is 01:22:27 I thought I read something like that. There's a lot of clips of the old. Okay, yeah. I thought I read something about there was some, one of the, I don't know if it was the Wachowski brothers or whoever had some like vendetta against the studio. I was trying to make them do another one. So they almost tried to like do some things out of spite in this one. Oh. That's what I thought I was reading the one day,
Starting point is 01:22:48 but I didn't really want to look too much into it because I hadn't seen the movie. Yeah, and I don't want to say anything else, and I honestly don't understand it well enough to even hardly spoil much, but I just probably won't because it is pretty fresh and new, but I was just a little disappointed at what it was. I just didn't understand what was going on my wife
Starting point is 01:23:07 was complete my wife was completely checked out like 15 minutes into it just like won't even attempt to watch it with mine because she would be the first one is a like i don't even think you have to it's just is a good movie yeah i think it's because it kind of just introduced you to the concept a little more and then it's action-based where I don't even know. The next ones just go so far down the rabbit hole. Yeah. Keanu Reeves, though, I was having a funny conversation with Darren, a friend of ours. I don't know where the conversation brought us, but it brought us to Keanu Reeves.
Starting point is 01:23:43 And he was just talking about how well-lik liked he is and like why is that and then uh we came to the conclusion it's like it's really not hard that hard in show business to become that beloved all it takes is most of what it takes is you to have not like molested or like a sexual predator like don't be caught like just doing things only for the money yeah and like that's as long as you did that it's like oh this person might actually be decent like everyone loves him get caught a few times like doing charitable things yeah things that most normal people just do like for the most part don't do horrible stuff like don't do terrible things yeah and it's like yeah yeah that person's all right that's kind of almost
Starting point is 01:24:25 how i see it too yeah that same thing it's like oh he's look at kiara he's being all relatable and stuff like oh he's a regular guy and he's also not a predator um wow he's so he's so remarkable yeah that's don't do you think like that kind of feels a little true like i think it is i think there's a lot of that yeah uh yeah because. Cause I'm trying to even think of, I don't even really know who else even fits that category hardly anymore. There's not a whole lot of people. No. Cause most people,
Starting point is 01:24:52 as far as movie actors go. Right. Right. And so there's not other people that don't fit that, but yeah, movie stars are tough people to fit that category, but he does it. He does it. So that's all I was going to say about that.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Well, to be continued after maybe you watch it eventually and we can, we can really do some serious spoilers at that point. Okay. Let's get... Should we try and get Big Eddie on the... Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:25:17 I thought you'd never ask. Discord, rise up. What's up? Big Eddie, is this you? Big Eddie. Can you hear me? Just barely. It's very distant sounding.
Starting point is 01:25:32 How about now? There we go. That's perfect. There we go. I can't get my ears. How's it going? This is your voice. We've always wondered what your voice sounded like.
Starting point is 01:25:42 It's as good as we expected. Excellent. Excellent. I'm glad you like it. So, Big Eddie, you have the honor and the privilege of being the Discord supporting member, representative, unpaid intern representative
Starting point is 01:25:57 for Episode 300. Do you feel like that's a lot of pressure? Oh, wow. Well, you know, it's shoulders, so I think I'll be all right. But I'm very honored, very humbled by it, though. A lot of people, I don't know if you're watching the Discord right now. Oh, I am.
Starting point is 01:26:14 But a lot of people are making accusations that you are, in fact, the mole. Well, I mean, only time will tell. Yes. You know, the decision's still out on that, and I'm just as curious as everyone else. And for anyone that's not aware of that reference, for our supporting members, there is a mole planted amongst the supporting members
Starting point is 01:26:37 that only we are aware of who that is, and there's a lot of speculation as to who it could be, and they have top inside massonomics info, and there's a lot of finger-pointing. It's kind of created a lot of speculation as to who it could be and they have top inside massonomics info and there's a lot of finger pointing. It's kind of created a lot of animosity. Yeah, almost different factions inside the Discord you could say. Oh yeah, you gotta watch for
Starting point is 01:26:55 your step. You really are a good candidate and part of that's because of all the cool massonomics stuff you've been doing this year that we've taken note of. You've gone on the official Massanomics road trip that Tanner and I haven't even got to go on yet. Well, it comes with the perks of my job and getting to travel. So explain what you do a little bit.
Starting point is 01:27:20 So you obviously do, like you said, you travel for your job a lot. But then whenever you're traveling, you're coordinating these special stops or how does it kind of, how does that process work? Yeah. So, so I cover the whole Northeast and you know, I'm on the road a lot. I visit customers and you know, when you're on the road. And just to be clear, you're not referring to Masonomics customers. Well, you know. You kind of do, I i guess but that's not the purpose for the trips that's not the primary yeah that's not the primary purpose i don't know especially if my boss is listening no but uh you know it's like
Starting point is 01:27:58 you're on the road like you got to work out and you know i don't drink so what else am i going to do when i get back in the hotel i don't want to sit around the hotel i want to go work out and you know i don't drink so what else am i going to do when i get back in the hotel i don't want to sit around the hotel i want to go work out so i've you know taken advantage of it and um i look up gym that try to find powerlifting gyms i try to find strongman gyms i i've really gotten good at what to search in google to actually find good gyms barbell club is keyword there if you're traveling you want to find a good place to live put in barbell club and you're going to find you're going to find some good results and uh you know it's like like i said i don't drink so my boss is like hey you know a day pass at a gym and a shirt is cheaper than the alcohol my co-workers are buying true so i'm still coming ahead on the per diem and
Starting point is 01:28:42 all the expense reports and did you notice anything about shorts though? Yeah. Do shorts. Well, you know, some things we don't need to talk about on the air. Yeah. I see that on the download.
Starting point is 01:29:00 Yeah. You know, that's what we call a four, four visit pass. So on these trips you've taken opportunity to uh spread the good word of massonomics though and you've gotten to meet up with already in just not many months you've met up with a whole bunch of uh other massonomics followers which is really cool yeah and guest speakers yeah true that's been a lot of fun too you've been to like uh spud inc you went and toured their facility i think and uh got thrown out yeah yeah yeah that was good yeah yeah spud uh bud jeffries down in florida yeah big bud
Starting point is 01:29:41 yeah that's right jp out in kansas city when i went home to visit family you went to swim max gym right oh yeah the deep end the where to switch uh james strickland oh yeah yeah yeah i went to james strickland the uh massanomics gym of the south yep yep i was down there um yeah it's i mean i'm not and i've already got my list i'm working on i mean zach with the lions then is uh really close and and i'm actually going for a northeast contingency meet up there i think he i think he'd be down for that to host us coming over goofing around and grilling some meat and cooking and lifting some weights. But out of the massonomics, you know, kind of that group, who's been the best to visit?
Starting point is 01:30:32 Who's been the best? Yeah. Well, Keith Honeycutt bought me dinner. Oh, that's hard to beat that. That's a pretty good one. And that was the first guy that I that I actually reached out to and, and worked on setting something up with. You know what?
Starting point is 01:30:50 I loved the, the video you did with Matt. Yeah. I was about to say, but Matt was the only one that I didn't, like everyone else. Like I had to come up with the idea, like I just knew what we were going to do, or I just like sprung it on them. But with Matt, it was like, take it away, man.
Starting point is 01:31:05 What do you want to do? I'm at your place. What's your big idea? Yeah, I like to picture Matt just has a stack of ideas. He just needed someone to act them out. Yeah. Well, I'm not supposed to talk about that list. But the hard part to have him as first is the whole incident
Starting point is 01:31:23 that happened while I was there. And I'm still a little upset with how he treated me. I was just trying to use his drink spotter, you know, trying to have safety first in his gym. And he goes and flips out and throws me out. Yeah. But that's okay. I know where he lives.
Starting point is 01:31:41 So do you think your travels will ever bring you to western northeast south dakota oh yeah absolutely so we need to find some i mean a big uh a very large welding outfit up here that you have a reason to visit is that right yeah yeah that's right 50 yards or more okay that seems like a lot that seems really big like um well it is i mean that's what i focus on but i mean we got cnh up in fargo so and i may have already been trying to work at it you know still working on it still working on it because i got cnh 15 minutes from here here in new holland pa so i'm trying to trying to get an opportunity to go out there to montecoto No, I definitely will be out there. I mean, one way or another, whether it's my family road trip,
Starting point is 01:32:30 when I take him out to South Dakota because my wife's never been, or we get a work thing going on, it's going to happen. Excellent. Well, we'll be ready for it. We'll be ready to give you the full Massanomics gym tour. Oh, man. That's going to be great. I'm looking forward to it. Oh, yeah. It's going to be ready for it. We'll be ready to give you the full Mastinomics gym tour. Oh, man. That's going to be great. I'm looking forward to it.
Starting point is 01:32:47 Oh, yeah. It's going to be a good time. Hey, how did you first hear about Mastinomics? First time I heard about Mastinomics was probably Garage Gym Reviews when they did their tour. And then I started kind of following you guys, okay and then uh so then i started kind of following you guys and uh the next thing that got you on my radar was the uh jefferson deadlift competition and i even like i got in at the tail end well i'm like all right this must be like an annual thing so i still have a plan for when you
Starting point is 01:33:20 do that competition again what it is on point. Okay. That's good. May or may not have to do with the fact that I live very close to the home of Thomas Jefferson. Okay. Yes. Keep that in your back pocket. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, and then that was the first shirt I got and I was planning on
Starting point is 01:33:37 meeting you guys at the Arnold and in 2020, but we all know how that went. Yeah. With everything going on. Yeah. Yeah. But I'll be there this year. Well, we'll see. Um, we'll see you there. I think we that went. Yeah. With everything going on. Yeah. Yeah. But I'll be there this year. Well, we'll see.
Starting point is 01:33:47 We'll see you there. I think we're five, four or something like that. You'll, you can't miss us. Well, you know, if they,
Starting point is 01:33:54 if they don't accept me for the Highland games, then I've got my application ready to submit for work in the booth. Are you planning on possibly doing the Highland games? If, if you can get, I, well, I just submitted my application tonight. Okay. That'd be awesome. Are you planning on possibly doing the Highland Games if you can get there? Well, I just submitted my application tonight.
Starting point is 01:34:07 Okay. That would be awesome. But there's only eight guys in my class. And so if I'm the eighth guy to apply, then I'll get in. But otherwise, you know, I'll keep applying next year. Yep. Okay. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:26 So, no, that'd be pretty fun to get there. It's on my list to get there before I turn 40 and compete there. Yeah, before you're in Scant's territory. Yeah, right. Okay. Well, good stuff. We're glad we got to talk to you. Honestly, we just really appreciate the support and all the cool, fun stuff you've done uh uh we love watching it we love seeing it it makes
Starting point is 01:34:49 for fun content and i think everyone else likes to see it it's like a little present yeah it is it's awesome yeah it's amazing so keep up well thank you it's been a lot of fun on my end as well with a lot of you know confusion for my wife but that's all right. That's what we do. Confuse wives everywhere. That's right. So sweet. Thank you very much, gentlemen. Thanks, Big Eddie. All right. Cool beans. Bye.
Starting point is 01:35:19 Cool beans. Cool beans. Yeah, we are just pounding through these things we are don't get us started because we won't stop we can't stop won't stop um i kind of wanted to read something to you tanner tell me a little story i've been writing a little story and i'm just curious if i could run it by you okay great i'd love to all right are you ready for it yeah you can't judge me just i'm gonna read it so you just gotta just sit back and okay let's just enjoy the show okay today's episode of the massonomics podcast is brought to you by spud inc and the gateway
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Starting point is 01:36:40 and that is the Gateway 2-Ply briefs, in case anyone was curious what I said there. Okay, the Gateway 2-Ply. Speaking of Sp anyone was curious what I said there. Okay, the Gateway 2-Ply. Speaking of Spud Inc., we just talked about Spud in our last call there, didn't we? Should we get another guest going here then? I think so. Okay. Next, we're going to try Big Travis Ortmeier.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Oh, I'm getting surprised even. Yeah. They just keep rolling. Most people have answered too. I know. It's kind of shocking. We just jinxed it right there, didn't I? Hello.
Starting point is 01:37:18 Big Travis, is this you? It's just me. What's up, guys? You're the man. We got you. How's it going? Oh, man. I just did my first real workout since that whole leg infection thing and rhabdo almost killed me. I feel like death right now.
Starting point is 01:37:37 Is it a good feel-like-death feeling? Like good to be able to get back to it? It is 100% a good feel like that feeling man i you know uh it's just nice that i can actually squat with uh and i have both of my legs to do it that always helps yeah yeah it seems like you've gotten like uh i mean a lot of people experience it too but does it ever feel like it's one thing after another? What's that for me? Yeah, just, you know, just like dealing with injury, the injury bugger. If I could stay healthy for a year, man, look out world.
Starting point is 01:38:14 Yeah. Well, you know, I've kind of just resigned to the fact that I'm crazy. And I don't know how to lay off the throttle. I have three coaches watching my ass now to make sure that I don't go overboard and do stupid crap like I have for the last, say, 25 years.
Starting point is 01:38:42 I think though with each injury there's a lesson with each near death experience there's a lesson and you know I will say this man when I go skidding into the afterlife I can say
Starting point is 01:38:57 that my life wasn't boring that's right and we do so the reason we called this this is our 300th episode of the podcast and we're that's right man congratulations to you guys that's pretty big we appreciate it it's uh so you know we've made it 300 weeks without ever missing a week which is uh pretty wild to think about it but we just wanted to touch base with a whole bunch of people that have kind of you know in one way or another made it possible and and been uh cool people that we've gotten to deal with uh along the road and you're for sure one of those we we always i'm flattered yeah well we always appreciate seeing i i always
Starting point is 01:39:36 love seeing uh you know someone like you wearing our stuff and uh kind of maybe doing something a little bit goofy. And, you know, it's because you're a serious guy and a strong guy and stuff. But also it's fun to see that, you know, there's people have different sides and you see some different stuff come out. And it's just it's really cool. And we've been fans of you and Strongman for years. Well, I appreciate that. Yeah, it's cool. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:40:07 There's one thing I've learned through all the, I guess, shit that I've been through is you can't take anything in life too seriously. You can take a couple things really seriously, but you can't take everything super serious. So I've learned how to kind of let off a little bit. I stay serious when it comes to training,
Starting point is 01:40:24 when it comes to competing, but when it comes to training, when it comes to competing. But when it comes to the rest of life, yeah, man, I've just relaxed and learned how to have fun. And, you know, the stuff that I post, you know, the goofy stuff that I post, I'm honestly behind the scenes laughing my ass off. It's like a little kid playing with a toy or something. So I just have fun with it. And if I think it's funny, I put it out there. And if other people think it's funny, that's cool. If not, that's okay too because I thought it was funny.
Starting point is 01:40:55 And hell, that's all that really matters at the end of the day. Who was the – you did an ad, put out an ad for some – I can't remember what it was for and it was real good just real recent too and i just i thought it was great i'm like oh that's we need more of that that's good stuff my mother a macros ad probably the meal prep company i work with right that's what it was i don't know i've had a couple uh i guess moments of inspiration just working with that one. I guess I have more fun with that one. I'm not sure why that company over others. I've got a couple
Starting point is 01:41:30 things in mind for Cerberus that I might do. But I don't know if those will be funny or more creepy. Who knows? Sometimes you don't know the line until you cross it. That's exactly it. I guess you just got gotta throw it out there see what happens yeah that's right so man you guys have gone almost six years right yeah right on that yeah six years yeah without missing a week that's incredible that's that's freaking dedication man that's uh most people can't do that they'll find an excuse to kind of you know take a break here or there well it's
Starting point is 01:42:11 some people would say it's insanity probably it is kind of insane but it's just it's it's just like anything though too even like uh you know how, how many years have you competed in Strongman? You know, is it I don't know what the number is, 10 plus, 15 or whatever it is, but For me? Yeah. We're on almost 20 next year. Right, and just think, you know, that
Starting point is 01:42:38 the average person does it for like a year or two and stops. Or has to stop. Right, right, right. So it is wild. So what you're saying is y'all are just as crazy as I am. There's a little less risk here. That's a fair point.
Starting point is 01:42:56 But in some ways, that's probably true. After a while, it just kind of turns into the thing you do. Right. This is what it is. Right. It's just like going to the gym. When you do that for years, you can thing you do. Right. This is what it is. Right. It's just like going to the gym. Like, could you, you know, when you do that for years, you can't not do it anymore.
Starting point is 01:43:10 Well, I mean, I got to say, it sounds like you guys have so much fun every time. So why not? And I got to say, I love, you know, all the inside jokes and all the sparkling water. Yes. Yeah, we got a few of them and that that's what we love doing and it's just fun the more people we get on in on it you know that kind of some of it doesn't make sense and it never makes sense but it doesn't matter if more people are in on it it's just like everyone's
Starting point is 01:43:41 like now and we don't really get it either but it's kind of funny so we just you know we just keep it like the lip shorts yeah man i am still saving up for a damn pair of lip shorts one of these days man that might take you that might take you another six years so episode 600 is going to be our golden moment. That's your chance. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. That's really cool. And we mostly,
Starting point is 01:44:12 honestly, we just wanted to kind of say hi and say what's up. And, um, what about what, what, uh, you probably don't know at this point,
Starting point is 01:44:19 do you have any plan of what your outlook is for the next time you'll compete them? I've got a plan, but I'm not saying anything okay that's that's understandable we'll uh keep it under wraps i got a i got a pretty long road of recovery and building back up and yep uh but you know i think well you know i needed the break anyway and i told myself that after that last contest i was going to take a month or two off i think that infection was just the universe's way of making sure i stuck to that promise because i've said i was going to take time off before and in my mind i'm taking time off but
Starting point is 01:44:57 when everybody else looks at me they're like what the fuck are you doing man jesus christ calm down you know this is not taking time off training three times a week with that intensity is not in time not time off right you know but uh yeah i guess when you're used to pushing the way i do it's it feels like it's so to be knocked on my ass for well of the better part of uh you know a month month and a half, just solid, knocked on my ass, unable to really do anything. I think the rest of my body got a lot of good recovery in. Yeah, that makes
Starting point is 01:45:34 sense. This whole thing may be a blessing in disguise. It's one of those things that I've noticed throughout my career. I've seen so many guys take a hiatus for six months to a year sometimes only to return and be stronger than ever. There's something there.
Starting point is 01:45:52 There's something that's there. You think you're missing a lot of time in the gym and you're losing a lot of ground, but really, you're really not losing that much. You build back so fast as long as you haven't taken a lot of time away yeah but uh you build back so fast and then everything's so much fresher that you reach new heights uh you know i'm just i've seen it so many times that i'm thinking to myself that's gotta happen to me right like on. I need that kind of wave. I'm going to ride that wave as far as I can and come into my next couple contests, you know, with the actual belief that I belong there so that I
Starting point is 01:46:34 don't kill myself in training trying to prove that I'm worthy. Right. If that makes sense. That does make sense. Yeah. I was going to ask you one thing. I just about forgot about it. But who do you think, out of everyone competing right now,
Starting point is 01:46:49 who is, in your opinion, who's the strongest guy and strong man right now today? Oh, shoot. Because it's tough. There's been periods of time where it's pretty easy answers to that question that a lot of people would agree but right now there's a you know there's a lot of parody or there's a lot of uh highly competitive guys right along that level well you got a couple guys who are really good well i guess you got every guy who's really good at a few events or, you know, a couple of events.
Starting point is 01:47:26 You know, you got your big pressers, you got your big deadlifters, you got your stone freaks. And then you've got a few guys who are really, really well-rounded. And I've got to say, I would think right now,
Starting point is 01:47:41 the most well-rounded guy, you know, aside from myself, is Martins Lisas. Yeah. He was certainly one of the ones that would be in the discussion, I think, no doubt. I think so, man.
Starting point is 01:47:55 You know, you could always say Matush, but his deadlift is kind of subpar. Martins doesn't have that weakness. Yep. Tom Stoltman would be another one in the conversation, I would think, and Alexei Novikov would be the other ones that would come to my mind right away, probably. Those were the other two that came to my mind. And Luke Stoltman, the Stoltman brothers in general, man, they impressed the hell out of me. Those guys are freaks.
Starting point is 01:48:19 Well, really, everyone named, all of you, everyone is really a freak. So maybe just freaks of freaks. Well, when you're a freak to the other freaks, that's something. That's noteworthy right there. That's a good point. Awesome. Well, that's good stuff, Travis. We really appreciate getting to talk to you.
Starting point is 01:48:41 We hope to get to run into you in person again here someday. Yeah, man, absolutely. I'd love that. I was just kind of in your neck of the woods. Yeah, you were in North Dakota, right? Yeah, western, central, north. Yep. We know the exact place.
Starting point is 01:48:59 Yep, yep. Say no more. Actually, I like it up there, man. The people in that part of the country are awesome yeah everyone's pretty friendly around here dude we went to breakfast we because it was freezing outside and the guy that was driving us around a guy named mitch hughes and oh yeah we know mitch yeah and lacy they're awesome people yeah awesome people so they took us to breakfast and uh mitch needs his truck running while we go to breakfast because it's a diesel.
Starting point is 01:49:28 And, you know, you don't want to freeze up because it was like zero degrees out there. Yep. Leaves it running the whole time we're in there eating, you know, come out 45 minutes, an hour later. It's still there. Yeah. Yeah. And, like, that's a thing. People are like, yeah, that's no big deal.
Starting point is 01:49:46 You know, hardly anything ever happens here. Nobody steals your truck. Nobody steals anything. People don't lock their houses. Yeah. Yeah. There's lots of people that go like years without locking their houses.
Starting point is 01:49:56 Like what? Like, I don't know. Do we have a key to the house? I'm not really sure. Yeah. It made me think about Misha Kuklaev. And he was telling me old stories about USSR, Soviet Russia, and they never locked their houses.
Starting point is 01:50:11 They never had to worry about crime. Yeah, I guess because if you were a criminal, you were put away in Gulag or something. Yeah, yeah. Gone in Siberia. Yeah. so it was, it was ridiculously safe. And then of course, you know, post Soviet era and the rise of all the mafias and, you know, crime went through the roof. And now I guess there's,
Starting point is 01:50:33 you know, they're like, uh, big cities over here. They got, you gotta lock your doors. You gotta get an alarm. You gotta,
Starting point is 01:50:40 you can't leave your pickup running for 30 minutes in the parking lot. Like, ah, I just gotta run to Walmart. I'll leave the keys in the park you know leave leave it running yeah i mean here's my russian you know crime story i i got stuck in moscow airport for a couple days because uh you know problems with a flight and then that issue my My freaking tablet that I had got stolen out of my bag while I was taking a nap on a bench. Wow. So that's, yeah, that's Russia. And that's, unfortunately,
Starting point is 01:51:13 that's America too. That's pretty ballsy for someone to be like, who should I steal from? Like that guy, right? That's the guy we should steal from. Exactly. I guess, you know, one of the few nights you ever sleep well on a bench and that had to be the one yeah i just can't have it all but yeah man so you
Starting point is 01:51:35 guys you know you're part of the country impressed me so much i even like started to consider like what would it be like to live here well really cold mostly hey you're you come come to western northeast south dakota and uh you've got a lifetime membership at massonomics gym so be careful man i might take you up on that so all right cool travis we appreciate it it's good talk to you yeah i appreciate it guys man it was good talking to you and congratulations on your six years running 300th episode that's pretty cool man awesome we appreciate it thanks a lot travis all right guys take care happy new year yep you too bye cool beans how many cool beans are over here tanner all the cool beans cool beans beans more cool beans how many cool beans are over here tanner
Starting point is 01:52:26 all the cool beans jeez let me just checking on one more guest here our wnesd weather bot right now uh says that it only feels like it's negative 28 right now so it's it's pretty pretty warm outside what does it say that feels like it's negative 28 right now, so it's pretty warm outside. What does it say? It feels like temperature is negative 28 right now. Oh, we didn't even talk about... I'm just sending a text right now to our... Do we still have guests lined up?
Starting point is 01:53:01 Well, we might. We just might. He said he's in bed, so we'll just see. Oh, boy. We'll just see what he says to us. All right, he said LFG. Okay. Does that mean let's effing go?
Starting point is 01:53:14 I think so. Or does that mean leave me alone? I'm trying to sleep. It could be either one. All right, we're trying. Big Dan, our capstone guest. All right, we're trying. Big Dan, our capstone guest.
Starting point is 01:53:28 This is gold. This is gold. Big Dan, you're not asleep yet, are you? No, hell no, hell no. The wife snored, but I'm not yet. See, we were trying to call everyone for five or ten minutes, but the first person we call is Huck Finn, and him and Karen, they're both drunk. Yeah, they were in a hurry to go.
Starting point is 01:53:51 Imagine that. Tuesday night. Well, it's the New Year's in five days. Yeah, right. Exactly. A bunch of dickheads. That's hilarious and we wanted to save the best for last of course so that's your we saved you for last
Starting point is 01:54:11 oh you're you're certainly a scholar and a gentleman thank you sir no we're we just uh call and get talk to you for a couple minutes we're recording the 300th episode and um just talking to some of the people that we've gotten to talk to along the way and you're uh you're definitely one of those guys out of all 300 out of all the guys we've talked to you're definitely one of them yeah yeah wasn't the first one like 70 when the first one it probably wasn't around there check us that's on the discord but i think it might have even been earlier than that it could have been in the i think it's like yeah someone someone just guessed 50 i think i think about 50 is right yeah it had to have been that was oh man forever ago still fat still a little stronger
Starting point is 01:55:03 actually kind of the crazy part is is that was about five years ago which is pretty insane yeah i suppose that is wild that's right you know 16 that's crazy 51 time flies when you're getting fat or 50 oh i think they're guessing so are what are you you're lifting at uh which which which of the meets are you doing? Which one of those two? I'm going Ghost. I plan on Ghost anyways. I want to do Hybrid, but the timing was right. And of course, WRPF and walking squats, I'm not all about that. Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:37 Especially when it comes to 1,100 pounds. No way. Yeah. I feel like that's a legitimate reason at that point. When it's that much weight that makes I can I can get down with that that makes sense to me yeah exactly I tried uh 1040 at the pioneer two years ago and that was quite the shit show but uh when it comes to me and getting the most weight on the bar I'll use a bottle all day long and mean, don't get me wrong. They're both great meets. You know, Hayden and Stephanie do great things.
Starting point is 01:56:06 Every meet they have. And I like Tim at Ghost. He's a great guy. Yeah, he's awesome. Yeah, I always support anything he does. I've known him since 2014. So, yeah, I had no problem signing up for that meet. I'm not too sure.
Starting point is 01:56:21 From your Iowa days, I suppose. Yeah, Iowa connection. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Back drinking bush and eating corn. No kidding. That was stupid. What a teenager.
Starting point is 01:56:38 I'm excited for that. That'll be a good one. Like I said, supporting Tim and Alex and those guys like that in February worked out perfectly. The weekend before my wedding anniversary and Valentine's Day, so I figured go down there, buy her
Starting point is 01:56:53 a nice seafood dinner, and I got all three stones. Never call her back. Leave her there. Dorothy Manchin is a freak. yeah a little bit are I'll definitely be there. I got two of my really best friends are actually doing the meet. It's their first year actually getting into it, and they're super excited about it.
Starting point is 01:57:33 I'll go kiss babies and sign autographs. I don't care. Yeah. What meet are they doing then? What's the – Oh, yeah, it's the XPC. I don't have daddy friends. I just couldn't remember what that
Starting point is 01:57:47 yeah so will that be in the built like will it be in the same building you know like yeah yeah they just started doing that two years ago because with all the 4H kids that's four yeah
Starting point is 01:58:02 yeah it's pretty sweet 4-H kids in that form. It was pretty sweet. They moved. I was pretty excited, but it'll still be interesting. Ohio's like the Florida of the Midwest. Bipolar as hell. So one minute they want to go one way, the next week they want to go the other way. It's weird.
Starting point is 01:58:25 It'll be really interesting to see what it's like. We were talking to Joe about Animal not being there this year. We hadn't really known that for sure, but I kind of saw they weren't on the map and hadn't heard anything about it. It's kind of weird that there won't be the Animal cage. That kind of stinks. Yeah. Did you talk about
Starting point is 01:58:42 Joe Sullivan? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Of course, he has to know everything he's the white oprah of power yeah yeah that's right oh that's awesome oh yeah but like i said i'm excited just you know i always look so much forward to the Arnold because you're going to see everybody that you didn't get to see all year.
Starting point is 01:59:09 And you're not, like, for me, I mean, I've never actually competed there. I've only done the cage a couple times. But, like, you get to go and, like, you're not, no stress of all that nonsense. It's just fun. Everybody's having a good time. This is like a giant family reunion kind of. Well, yeah, I mean, family reunion kind of. Well, yeah. I mean, family reunion maybe in South Dakota, but not in New York.
Starting point is 01:59:31 Instagram reunion is the better word. There you go. Yeah, exactly. Guess what the weather is here right now? Oh, I can only imagine. I'm actually leaving in about about five hours i'm driving back up to illinois for new year's and i've been looking and yeah i got three sweaters and my car hearts are still up at home so i'm gonna pop those things off the minute i get there yeah
Starting point is 01:59:58 what did the wind i think i think the feels like with wind chills like negative 28 yeah negative 28 just so um we're clear i'm sitting in my garage oh drinking a beer and nothing sports shorts and sandals sweating well i mean of course i'm sweating but 82 at 11 15 at night florida florida yeah i'm telling you what yeah exactly christmas day christmas day was like 79 i was on the bike we were eating too much lasagna and then oh it was just great i loved every minute of it but is there anything like it like, it wouldn't be western, northeast, South Dakota. I don't really, we wouldn't have a shtick like that in Florida, I don't think. Oh, it's all weird down here, man. It's all different.
Starting point is 02:00:57 But no, I mean, I don't blame you. That's home for you guys. It's gorgeous. You know what I mean? Despite, you know, the daytime, it's gorgeous you know i mean despite you know the daytime it's gorgeous i remember i we cut across uh cut up to saint pete i think it was the town in minnesota and then go all the way across the bottom of south dakota yep it was like 92 or some interstate like that and we take that all the time because we didn't want to drive through Nebraska.
Starting point is 02:01:26 Nebraska sucks that bad. So we'd go through South Dakota. I went to tech school out in Laramie, Wyoming. Okay. Yeah. We went out to Sturgis in 2010 and stuff like that. But back in the pre-powerlifting days when I was even more of a jackass. Like you were at Sturgis for the rally?
Starting point is 02:01:46 Yeah. I think I might have been there that year, too. You guys probably partied together. You didn't know it. We probably revved motorcycle engines at each other or something. Yeah. I probably showed you my tits. That was who it was.
Starting point is 02:02:01 I knew that was something. That's right yeah not they weren't bad though they weren't the worst ones i saw that weekend yeah i'm sure i'm especially out there i'm sure oh yeah i came down on bike week 2008 and nine and like i loved it then and then when i moved down here i'm like oh this this isn't fun anymore i like one year i wore a polo i was like i just want to be that sore thumb in this crowd yeah and then i just it took me three years and bam i'm right back in it now i got a bike now i'm going to every rally or everything they got go hell i'll go to iron horse any day of the week
Starting point is 02:02:41 just because i like the barn i like like everybody out there. The biker community is alright. They seem like they're a bunch of assholes, but they aren't bad. Yeah. I always like the old South Park episodes where it's like the Harley riders. Yeah. Wasn't there
Starting point is 02:02:59 one where there were a lot of how do I get politically correct? There was a well, they liked penis. There was like a lot of others. How do I say? How do I get politically correct? There was a, well, they liked penis. There was like a gay bike group. Yeah. That was kind of the whole thing. I think that, yeah, that was, yes.
Starting point is 02:03:13 Yeah. I got off their bike and they're like lip-wristed as hell. Oh, it's so funny. So after you do this meet, are you going to, do you have more meets that you're planning after that? Or are you taking a break then for a while? Or what do you think are you going to do you have more meets that you're planning after that or are you taking a break then for a while or what do you think you're going to do I try not to
Starting point is 02:03:30 get in that politics nonsense I was going on with WRPS but if they do do the run like they did this year I will probably try to run up to that South Carolina meet or North Carolina wherever Mika Mar Marina is putting that one meet on
Starting point is 02:03:48 because I guess that's in the circuit of WRPF meets for that extra $10,000. And I looked at it the other day. It's only like a six-hour drive from here, so it's not horrible. But, yeah, I'm just going to kind of play it by ear, kind of chase the money. You know, there's one, one in March in Dubuque,
Starting point is 02:04:11 Iowa and Bill Carpenter, the UPA guy, he's, he's putting it on it. And I think the prize, like five grand. And that's like the platform that I started on. So like,
Starting point is 02:04:21 I was, I was like, Bill, I'd love to come take your money and um yeah get back on my platform again a little more nostalgia than i mean don't get me wrong i'm still gonna give her a go and try to get 26 or 1200 kilos 26 45 that's that's that's enough yeah that's what i'm chasing now and uh don't get me wrong i mean 2606 I really feel is untouchable there's a couple guys that have to have a perfect day, but right now
Starting point is 02:04:47 it doesn't seem like anybody's knocking on the door anymore yeah, yeah, yeah it's a good feeling compared to 2518, so yeah and that's why I haven't really pushed it of course, went through some medical stuff last year after
Starting point is 02:05:04 hybrid and whatnot. I try to keep that pretty transparent on my Instagram page. Get life in order. Powerlifting will always be there. That's kind of what I did last year after the current and after hybrid. I just took time off
Starting point is 02:05:20 and had fun with life for a little bit. You had cool beans. You had cool beans. You had cool beans. It's only 10 there, isn't it? Yeah, 10.30. Yeah, 10.30. Yeah, 10.30. This is our late night of the week
Starting point is 02:05:37 where we stay up a few hours past our normal bedtime. I know you got those Baker hours, so it's hard to tell. I didn't know. Going in at 10 this week? No. Actually, I've been
Starting point is 02:05:54 sometimes I've got to shovel and snowblow my sidewalk every damn day before I go into work. I love hearing that. My snowblower's been getting a serious workout the last few days. Oh,
Starting point is 02:06:10 man, that's rough. I had a girlfriend that I used to call a snowblower. She always ran. Brings a strap in that girl. She was good to go. Awesome. We appreciate it, it Dan we won't keep you keep you between bedtime for the
Starting point is 02:06:31 whole night yeah it's all good boys appreciate you guys too you know I'm really uh really happy to you know watch your progress over the last couple years 300 episodes that's that's awesome and you guys know you're getting bigger and I mean well obviously with the guys know you're getting bigger. Obviously,
Starting point is 02:06:47 with the lift shorts, you're getting huge. That's right. Getting rich, at least. Exactly. You guys always put out solid stuff. Not a lot of people get your sense of humor, but I think it's fantastic. Please keep doing it. We'll do our
Starting point is 02:07:04 damnedest. We appreciate it, it Dan thanks for always doing cool stuff thanks Dan have a good one see you in a couple months yeah perfect see ya well what do you give us cool beans I might be out of cool beans Tanner
Starting point is 02:07:20 that might be the last cool bean that might be every freaking cool bean we got okay wow that was a lot of good guests that was that was our last we had some other people potential ones and you know a few things didn't work out and um i think we really got a good snippet of the last uh 300 episodes of mass dynamics history thereics history there? We did. It was quite the adventure. It was quite the adventure.
Starting point is 02:07:49 What do you think the odds are that we do 300 more? I don't know. What's the 300 more? I'm just trying to do the math in my head. That's like five more years like five to six yes but yeah i was gonna say what would help that bet is if we ever got to a point we're doing multiple episodes a week yeah that would greatly increase those odds yeah because
Starting point is 02:08:19 then if you're saying three years from now that's not that far it doesn't seem that far away yeah but yeah five years seems pretty far um god part of me says 50 50 50 50 does probably i mean i don't see any reason that why like there's no apparent reason that it would go away yeah but it's just that's such a long period of time but i'll say it's like what's the reason for something to stick around for 10 years that's too long right yeah yeah that's uh i would love for i hope it's still going um but you never know if it's still going that means it's still going well i suppose you know it's uh people are still listening and uh supporting and all of that stuff so that would be awesome if that was the case yeah that would be like the year 2027 2028 something like that close to 20 knocking on the door 2030 we'd have we would have gone through
Starting point is 02:09:11 we'd be on to like the next presidency at that point the next the next next one yeah which would be pretty wild i did i did have over-under. Well, I had some quick stuff too, Tanner. Maybe you want to do that first. Do you just get to call the shots around here? No, actually, if you got... We'll come back to that because there are... Let me see. Yes, I did have some.
Starting point is 02:09:35 Okay. Just making sure. Okay. Tanner, I think we should revisit something. Oh. We're going to go... I need you to put on... I need you to hop in your DeLorean and go back in time a little bit here. Okay, we're gonna go i need you to put on i need to hop in your delorean and go back
Starting point is 02:09:45 in time a little bit okay we're time traveling and we're gonna go back and visit a little something called fitness is finest this is finest i don't know if you can remember that but uh for the people that didn't there's been a lot of demand for fitness's finest people in discord for people that didn't know excited this is something that happened i don't know what three years ago two and a half years ago it was before we had this studio somebody confirmed i saw on there dan bell was episode 51 and i put up a picture of you and dan from the youtube clip yeah yeah oh ancient um fitness is fine so what's the finest it's been a while it's been a very long time uh it would be where we would highlight some of the finest tools, pieces of equipment from the fitness industry.
Starting point is 02:10:30 Yeah. And we just check out and see what they're about. Okay. We have covered a pretty extensive catalog. So once I started to go back into my research log on this, I realized why we kind of quit is because for the most part, we kind of covered most of the things. The things were just turning
Starting point is 02:10:46 into variations of the other things. Okay. We just needed to wait three more years for... We kind of did, but at the same time, not a lot. There hasn't been a ton of innovation in the fitness industry.
Starting point is 02:10:56 But I also wouldn't remember any of the things we've done. Well, I remember the hula chair. The hula chair, there were several... Classic hula chair. The hula chair was one and then one that I forgot about
Starting point is 02:11:04 was like the horse. Oh, that was... Like the horse. The thing that made. There's several. Classic hula chair. The hula chair was one. And then one that I forgot about was like the horse. Oh, that was like the horse. The thing that made that was the lady. It was like the horse riding thing. Yeah. Was really, really funny too. And I forgot that existed until I went back and looked at it. But I also didn't realize how long of a segment Fitness is Finest was.
Starting point is 02:11:20 If I had to guess, we covered close to 30 different things in it. Really? Which means we went several weeks. Yeah. We went many, many weeks with it. Into the finest of fitness. So the first thing we're going to do, and this is something- Prancercise.
Starting point is 02:11:33 Was that what it was? That was the- Oh, yeah, it was. Yeah, you're right. You're right. This first thing, I don't remember this existing before, and it's kind of become like a kind of popular fit i don't want to know if popular is the right word but multiple company make this product and it goes by a variety
Starting point is 02:11:52 of brands are a variety of names but um the endless rope trainer is maybe one you might see a lot where it's like a rope that you just pull infinitely on it's's like those paper old, old. Do you ever remember going into the bathroom and you wash your hands? Oh, one of the bars in town still has that. Which one has that? The circus still has that. Oh, they still have those?
Starting point is 02:12:16 They still have that damn, it's just the continuous dirty rag that cycles through that damn thing. Yeah, they still have that because I went in there for the first time in a very long time, not that long ago, about a month,
Starting point is 02:12:27 because they put all new TVs and everything. I'm thinking, oh, I bet they finally got rid of that ancient towel that cycles through this machine. Thousands of dollars in new TVs and the same freaking dirty rag attached to the wall
Starting point is 02:12:40 that goes circular. But am I picturing the right kind of thing? It's like that. It is that. Yeah. That's probably where they got the inspiration from when they made the endless rope trainer. So I guess, you know, Tanner, usually I'd show you pictures of this. You kind of have a pretty good idea of what the endless rope trainer is.
Starting point is 02:12:56 These go for anywhere from like a few hundred dollars to a few thousand dollars, depending on how sophisticated you get. I even found in my research, I think Coop's even done some reviews on these. That's how legit they're getting nowadays. So I don't know. Is it something that we're going to get in the Maslow Mix gym anytime soon?
Starting point is 02:13:15 No. I don't think so. No. I kind of feel like this is right up there with... I'm just trying to think of who, besides like a Crossfit athlete that has to climb a rope but you're just going to climb a rope then aren't you safety i guess would be uh i and most of the reviews are just from like hey the seller sucks this product sketchy it doesn't
Starting point is 02:13:38 work it's broken like i just i don't do people actually use this rope for a legit continued fitness program or is it just like a dumb novelty one-off thing? I feel it's a little novelty. You know what my biggest question would be, though? What? Does it fit under the bed? Does it fit under the bed?
Starting point is 02:13:55 I think this would fit under the bed. Okay, well, that has some merit. It does get those points going for it. It has the under the bed points. This exact model also has six levels of variable resistance, too, though. So six levels of resistance under the bed. Those are kind of some things working in its favor here. So something to think about there.
Starting point is 02:14:17 So anyways, yeah. Endless rope trainers are the one thing. One of the finest products. This next product is one that I've actually wanted to talk about for a very, very, very long time on this show. And we're just getting to it now. And it's kind of funny to bring it up after some of the things we talked about tonight. Is it going to be AUK? This would be the Mark Bell bicep board.
Starting point is 02:14:45 And I think you're a little familiar with this product. Yeah. the Mark Bell bicep board. Oh, yeah. And I think you're a little familiar with this product. Yeah, yeah. So what is it? Do you have a picture of that again? I have a picture here. So what it is. Oh, that thing, yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:53 What it is, it is a board, just a board. It's probably a plastic board or something, but there's a hole in it. I had to do a little research because I wasn't very familiar with this product. Yeah. There's a hole in it where you can insert a dumbbell that stands upright.
Starting point is 02:15:06 So then you can then curl it towards yourself. And you explained it to me like a year ago. Yeah. And I thought, no, there's got to be more to it. And when I did my research, no, there's not more to it. Like that's what it is. Now, people aren't buying that, are they? I don't think so.
Starting point is 02:15:21 And here's my proof. I've never seen a person like. Here's my proof on this is that um so i in my limited research was able to find that the bicep board actually has its own instagram page why a great question great question no idea why and i'm actually gonna i'm actually gonna open it here i wasn't going i wasn't going to i was gonna spare myself the trouble but so the kind of the wild thing about their instagram page is that let me get it open here they have i think it's like 1200 how do they even have that many followers um okay 1493 followers 40 posts 40 posts but what tells me that like this doesn't have much traction is that since they're this product is live post yeah november of 2020 so in a in 13 months they've
Starting point is 02:16:17 made nine posts now that tells me that's probably not doing much right. No. One of the funnier posts was just Mark Bell just talking about it and trying to totally not sound like it's just the most generic infomercial. Let's see what happens. Let's see. Oh, wow. My biceps are so mature, so big since I started using it. They definitely feel bigger. The bicep board has been a huge impact on the size and the growth and maturity of my arms
Starting point is 02:16:47 huge impact on the size growth and maturity of my arms it's like dude mark you're what 40 something and you've been doing all this training like the bicep board is what got you over the hump i don't know about that like that feels like the just the generic infomercial testimony wasn't it also you said the voldemort thing a few times you're right you're right um yeah no that's a garbage product yeah i'm not saying like it doesn't exercise your muscles it probably i think there's probably some yeah i guess you're right to it but i don't i don't think it needs to exist at all. I don't think it does either, though. So. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:28 Tanner, that does. It's a condensed version. That does wrap up. One positive, though. Okay. Of the bicep board. Yeah. It would fit under the bed.
Starting point is 02:17:35 It would. You could fit like 10 of those under the bed. Yeah, you could fit a lot of. Stacked. So. Stacked on top of them. Of all the bad things we said. I take that all back.
Starting point is 02:17:43 Maybe it is pretty good. The primary factor of fitness's finest does it fit under the bed yeah it does very easily it fits like damn near anywhere really you know like you could yeah yeah yeah you're right you're right you're right so okay i take that all back people go by buy a, go buy a, go buy a, go buy a, go buy a, go buy a, go buy a, go buy a, go buy a, go buy a, go buy a, go buy a, go buy a, go buy a, go buy a, go buy a, go buy a, go buy a, go buy a, go buy a, someone has just a bed underneath it.
Starting point is 02:18:07 It's just all shitty. Every fitness product in the world is underneath it. It's got a hula chair under there, jammed underneath it. It's all,
Starting point is 02:18:13 I want a bed with a hula chair underneath it. Okay, Tanner, we're going to do something here that's called
Starting point is 02:18:18 Lightning Round. Oh. And this is a special edition of Lightning Round because it's supplement real or fake Lightning Round. Oh, another flashback. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, okay. But so do I have this is a special edition lightning round because it's supplement real or fake lightning round oh
Starting point is 02:18:25 another flashback yeah okay okay but so do i have to answer quickly so you're gonna answer quickly and then we'll go back and decide what's real or fake at the end okay so it's just like a test you put all your answers in and then the teacher then tells you the answers to your test but they're all c right well yeah so this is all these are all 10 multiple choices for each one so there's a lot to decide from here all the all the way down to h a through h all right you ready let's do it first supplement real or fake too hard too hard two or t-o-o t-o-o would you like me to use it in a sentence yes this is too hard to or t-o-o t-o-o would you like me to use it in a sentence yes this is too hard real okay too hard real okay next question next one on supplement real or fake
Starting point is 02:19:18 sema sema pro extreme volumizer. Would you like me to use it in a sentence? Yes. Bro. Did you remember to take your SEMA pro extreme volumizer? Real. I'm going to real. Okay.
Starting point is 02:19:35 Okay. Okay. Next one in supplement. Real or fake. Major load. Ultimate performance. Say fake. Major load. Yes. Say fake. Major load.
Starting point is 02:19:47 Yes, actually. Dude, I went into GNC, and they just got a fresh palette of major load ultimate performance. I'll still say fake. Okay. Last one. I load. Is it like iPhone? Like iPhone.
Starting point is 02:20:10 But instead of phone, it's a load i'll say real okay okay so i'm finished with three reels and a fake okay so going back uh first one too hard too hard is real and it is by the fine folks at space discoco Performance. Space Disco Performance. Space Disco Performance. They also have a product named Too Wet. These are all, believe it or not, like a mix of some variation of pre-workouts, sexual enhancements, and other things. They draw a lot of aliens on their labels, a lot of aliens on everything.
Starting point is 02:20:43 SEMA Pro. Spoiler alert. SEMA Pro Extreme Volumizer is real. a lot of aliens on their labels a lot of aliens on everything so spoiler alert sema pro sema pro extreme volumizer is real i would like to say i had to make sure real you did say real for that yeah you didn't say real for that i didn't say i have to say i did make sure to sign out of my amazon account and use an incognito window because i didn't want my search to be ruined forever on my computer good idea so uh yeah that is also real major load ultimate performance is real and as well you said fake for that one um they have a kind of a duke nukem uh army style man on that one well i appreciate that um that one is also of the sexual variety i believe and then the last one i load is also real and i believe that one i forgot already
Starting point is 02:21:27 i didn't write it down i think that is just a pre-workout that's all it is just kind of a goofy name for pre-workout okay i think it's like you're marketing you're loading up for your workout i think is how they approach that one so i did have that one right so i was three out of four you were three for four okay 75 that's better than my passing this statistical average on uh supplements real or fake i had some really bad performances on that you had what segment came first supplement real or fake or fitness's finest because they kind of overlapped but for sure right we were doing them at the same time yeah yeah that is a good question because you know what it didn't even dawn on me until i was putting together some notes on this.
Starting point is 02:22:07 And then I left my computer and then I realized, you know what? Those are two different things. They're not the same thing. I thought when I was putting it together, I was mixing the equipment and the supplements. And I didn't realize until afterwards that those are actually separate items. So I don't know what was first there. I can tell you the inspiration for Supplement Real or Fake was I always wanted us to just get a shit ton of supplements and just do like on air taste tests of them to try and describe. It's almost kind of like sort of like what's in the can is what it turned into.
Starting point is 02:22:34 Right, right. But I always thought it'd be so cool if we could just have tons and tons of supplements and do taste tests and try to describe what they taste like because most supplements don't taste like what they're supposed to, you know? Right. So I thought that would be a fun one, but that's just like nearly impossible to pull off. I've got a little blast from the past game here. Actually prepared from years ago that we never played the last iteration of this game.
Starting point is 02:22:55 This is another, as long as we're doing this. Can I guess? Can I guess? Okay. There could be some, but the one that comes to mind was, I don't even remember what it's called, but it was the Instagram bio one. name that lifter name that lifter okay and see i'm we're i i think i also have named that lifter i do have that i think we'll play both because i think i have that available too it's just that could be so outdated, the info I have.
Starting point is 02:23:27 That's kind of the funny part of this. It's going to be like a four-year-old version, or four years ago of what. So the other one is who weighs more. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or what weighs more, depending on the topic. So what weighs more, Dan Bell or a female Bengal tiger? What weighs more?
Starting point is 02:23:53 Does Dan weigh like 360-ish? 350? I don't even know what Dan weighs for sure. In his bra. No. He's not 400 i know that um i don't know i don't know how heavy he gets if he goes up like a lot and wait before meets or not okay so i think maybe it i think dan bell weighs more i think dan bell weighs more you're saying dan bell i think dan bell weighs more correct dan bell weighs more than your average female
Starting point is 02:24:38 bengal tiger okay i've got dan at about 375 I think he has been up to 400 before even, just like barely tipped 400. 380 to 400. Maybe down in the 350. I'm sure he gets down there at some point in time, too. The female Bengal tiger on average, 308 pounds. Ooh, okay. So you're right. See, I was thinking, I was trying to do like the math in my head in Tiger King,
Starting point is 02:24:58 and I'm like, dude, there were some pretty big tigers, but I think those were also the males, not the females. That's part of that i had uh that's where i had to side with dan on this one what weighs more dennis cornelius or a 42 gallon barrel of oil a 42 gallon barrel of oil typically what's traded that is the that's that's something 42 50? I think it's a 42 gallon. Okay. 42.
Starting point is 02:25:31 42 gallons. Oil, or Dennis Cornelius. Doesn't a gallon of milk weigh eight pounds? And oil is thicker than milk, isn't it? I haven't drank a lot of oil lately, so I have trouble pinning that down for sure but okay if my total assumption that milk is eight and oil is even thicker and for some reason weighs more so would you say 42 42 so 40 times eight i think oil weighs more i think
Starting point is 02:26:00 oil weighs more correct dennis corelius competing at 264, presumably sometimes weighs a little more than that. A barrel of oil, 300 pounds. Okay. Two for two. Last one I hear on who weighs more. And this one, it's kind of like over under. This one's all the marbles.
Starting point is 02:26:21 What weighs more? Steffi Cohen or five gold bars bars and the dimensions of a gold bar i've held a gold bar before so i know how so it's seven inches just so everyone else's no knows seven inches long three and five eighths inches wide and one and three quarter inches thick so it's about like that yeah and so it's kind of sort of like a brick sort of yeah stephy cone versus five gold bars so you could hold them about like this i know because i know stephy was usually when she would compete was it around 112-ish,
Starting point is 02:27:05 whatever those weight classes are down there? I don't think she was 130. I think she was in the teens. So then it's just five gold bars weigh more than 20 pounds each. Just five gold bars weigh more than 25 pounds. I'll go with the gold bars on this. Correct.
Starting point is 02:27:28 Really? Three for three, a clean sweep. Steffi Cohen will say approximately 120 pounds. Five gold bars. They weigh 27.5 pounds each. Really? 137.5 pounds. Wow.
Starting point is 02:27:40 Oh, man. I thought even 25 seemed like the very top end but okay 27 wow great job okay so name that lifter i'm a little more skeptical on the validity of this game but as long as we're doing this i think it'll be fun and somewhat uh derrick said wasn't the one with steffi already used in an episode and i don't know i think we talked about the way to go bars before, but definitely don't remember the number, but I feel like we'd maybe mentioned that before. If we did it before, it was a very long time ago,
Starting point is 02:28:10 and most people don't remember. Yeah, definitely. Okay. So this is Name That Lifter. I name their sponsors listed in their Instagram bio, and you name the lifter and this is also going off of like three-year-old information keep that in mind i think sometimes you're reading just their what they wrote for their name yeah yeah what they wrote for their bio so herb strong mb slingshot never been stronger caffeine and kilos and pioneer fit MB Slingshot, Never Been Stronger, Caffeine and Kilos,
Starting point is 02:28:46 and Pioneer Fit. Or wait, I'm playing this game incorrectly. Forget what I just said. Okay. I'll name one of these and you need to solve Herbstrong. And then you... Oh, yeah, then I'd have to say... Okay, then I'd keep asking for another two. So I screwed that one up,
Starting point is 02:29:04 but so you get to know i'm gonna guess tom callous on that one tom callous is correct and that's why i had caffeine now i'm understanding why i did that i put the most obvious ones at the very bottom because that's what when you're going through i'm like this is not narrowing it down they said caffeine and kilos yeah that's what gave that one right and that's i just realized i forgot how this game is even played. Okay, next one. Go strong equipment. Okay, I can't remember down there. Animal pack.
Starting point is 02:29:32 Okay, getting warmer. Any estimates on that? I need one more before I can say. Hybrid performance method. Like I want to say Steffiy cone that you would be correct okay just the fact that we'd already had her on uh the previous game yeah i don't know if we i don't think these were these were made like to be played back to back yeah okay um i almost just said the name of this last one
Starting point is 02:30:05 as the first thing I was thinking. Okay. Name that lifter. Last one for this episode and maybe forever. For all the barbels. BPN Supps. Oh, BPN Supps.
Starting point is 02:30:17 Yeah. Okay. I have an idea. I don't even... That wouldn't have meant much to me. So, okay. Lockdown Co. Wow, that means nothing to me.
Starting point is 02:30:30 Alphalete. Okay, I need more. Junk Brands. Maybe it's Junk Brand, I don't know. I think it's, yeah, the headbands. It's a Russell or he, it is Russell.
Starting point is 02:30:52 The last one was get better today. Okay. That would be, yeah. Yep. All right. So you did, you got everything.
Starting point is 02:30:59 You kind of clean sweep everything. You're pretty good at these old games. You didn't knock the rust off pretty well okay well with that being said tanner i'm gonna need you to knock some rust off here because i have something for you um i'm gonna turn the turntables ah how the tables have turned and introduce you to a little game we like to play called Overrated Underrated. Oh, all right. Okay.
Starting point is 02:31:27 My, how the tables have turned. So what happens here is you have to have your druthers, and then you take your druthers, you apply those druthers, and you can talk as much or as little as you need to, but you should probably talk a little more so people have something to listen to. Yeah, it kind of sucks when people just say it, and then we wait, and then they're like, oh, any reason why?
Starting point is 02:31:48 Okay, next question. All right, so are you ready to play? Do you know the rules? I'm relatively familiar at this point, 300 episodes in. Overrated or underrated? 300, the movie. It's funny, I also had over, under prepared. This was a topic.
Starting point is 02:32:09 the movie it's funny i also had over under prepared this was a topic so uh do you notice i went first here to the punch that was the obvious one to use wasn't it okay 300 the movie good uh good topic though very fitting for episode 300 here oh it's a hard one to answer to tell you the truth too, because when 300, the moot that came out, that was a hyped up movie. Like everyone that was like the dude movie, wasn't it?
Starting point is 02:32:33 When we were just the right age, the year, like kind of college. Yeah. You know, for a college age dudes, when that came out, you're watching it 20 times.
Starting point is 02:32:42 Yeah. I think I might've been a senior in high school maybe. And that I thought was maybe the coolest thing i'd ever seen in my life at the time like i was pretty sure it didn't get any better than that i know and you know it i wonder if it gets played out at a certain point but i i almost feel like but i feel like it holds up a little bit and i feel like it's past the point now where it's like yeah it is still say like no like that wasn't some weird just like fad in that time like it still is really entertaining you know the way that that movie is i don't know shot or or uh computer uh wasn't it is that one of them where it's kind of all just shot on a green screen yeah i my that's my assumption i don't i don't know it's i it has a really unique color to everything too like it's not uh right it's
Starting point is 02:33:32 very stylized yeah it's very stylized i guess i gotta say that it's overrated i love although but this being the key i understand how overrated underrated works some people don't understand how it works i like the movie 300 and i would probably if it was on uh and i had time to watch it i would enjoy watching it again and i think it's a fun movie to watch and i probably watched it like 50 times that's an exaggeration. I probably watched it 20 times. Exaggeration. Five times. That's exaggeration. I've watched it. I think I've watched it once.
Starting point is 02:34:10 I've seen the clip of him kicking the guy in the hole. This is Western Northeast South Dakota. That's a funny. I've actually pulled that clip up multiple times of trying to figure out how to use it and the way like the camera's cutting and it doesn't exactly go how you want it to go to make something i have i routinely get an idea and in my head i think it's so funny because i remember a clip a certain way yeah and then i go track that clip down on youtube and i'm trying to figure out how to like text on it i'm like it. If I have to try in my
Starting point is 02:34:46 head this hard to make it work, there's no way by the time it's going to get to Tanner it's going to make any sense. Yeah. That's what happened to Tyler on the podcast. This is western Northeast South Dakota. He went down the deep hole. But first we looked over to someone. I'm not sure who the lady was.
Starting point is 02:35:02 Also, the lady is Cersei Lannister. Yeah. Which is funny. Like Lena... we looked over to someone i'm not sure who the lady was also the lady is uh cersei lannister yeah from yeah uh which is funny i took me like lena yeah yeah it starts with an h but the game of thrones lady the mean the bitchy lady on game of thrones uh i'm saying overrated because i have my druthers so i don't know why i would absolutely say for the first five years after it came out it was totally overrated yeah i think it's almost approaching underrated territory now again so there's a curve that i think the curve yeah i think i think it's right if this is the rate rating line and it had a trajectory like that and now it's back yeah
Starting point is 02:35:37 but uh i do respect your opinion there so uh next on the list bowling a a 300. Excellent one. I didn't think because I made a similar. I did this exactly what you're doing right now, and I could did not come to that one. Bowling a 300, I think, is underrated and not I'm not a maybe that's my perspective of something that doesn't really bowl. But I think it's perfection. So that's difficult in anything that you do. What would I compare it to in other sports? It's kind of tough because not a lot of sports have a scoring system
Starting point is 02:36:12 that you can perfect. You can get perfection. Yeah, and you actually can't do better. Right. So that's what it's... What is the comparison there? I'm trying to even think of what would be... I don't know if there is really any direct
Starting point is 02:36:27 comparisons but it is pretty elite the way i understand it too although there are people that i know you know like our local radio disc jockey i know he's maybe racked up like 10 300 games yeah i i know multiple people i'm part of a bowling league i know there's a few guys in there that yeah i have over 10 of them right my father-in-law has one for sure i can't remember if he has two and he has several like 299s and like two maybe uh maybe i'm looking at it wrong maybe from an in maybe if you're inside if you're in the in if you're on the inside of it it's uh maybe it is overrated in that uh maybe it's like not as big of a deal i what about you know like this is not a real comparison or it's the same as the perfect
Starting point is 02:37:14 thing but it kind of reminds me of getting a hole-in-one in golf it kind of sort of is like you know it's different because the hole-in-one is so much more to chance kind of yeah also like and that's what it reminds me of a similar do any better on that right i was like at first i was trying to think of golf and i'm like okay if you par the course but the best golfers are way under par right um and that kind of actually is maybe more realistic because usually in bowling a lot of times you're not bowling a single game it's usually a series um the 300, you could have a great game, but you could also have two really shitty games to where it's like your series
Starting point is 02:37:50 actually wasn't that good. The hole-in-one kind of fits in that where you could hit a hole-in-one and be a terrible golfer the rest of the day. I guess I'm going to say the more I think about it, my initial instinct was underrated, but just thinking a little more, maybe it's a little overrated. I'm thinking of the case of if you're really into bowling and stuff, like it's not. Actually, I changed my mind back.
Starting point is 02:38:14 It's underrated, I think. Okay, okay. Because when I think about how hard it would be from a perspective of me, I'm like, oh, it's pretty underrated because that's a such a that's a hill to climb so i'm gonna say underrated i was your i think your logic's spot on is that like yeah it is the pinnacle of achievement in that sport basically well i shouldn't say the pinnacle the pinnacle would be like a 900 which would be like three three but right the yeah it is kind of like the pinnacle of a single game achievement and yeah, yeah, it's a tough thing to do.
Starting point is 02:38:47 Like, they're probably more common than you think, but it is tough to do. So, yeah, it's hard to discount that. Okay, next on our list, the Chrysler 300. Oh, nice. You know, I really liked the Chrysler 300 when it came out especially like gen one chrysler did they copy bentley a little too much yeah i mean yeah so it was rolls royce so who were their was it rolls royce they were copying i don't even know at that time but it was the budget
Starting point is 02:39:17 bentley looking you know it was like the i can go up 20 grand and have this car that it looks like a freaking kind of you know know, like, Oh, very, very much. Yeah. Um, I thought they were really cool. I, I don't know what Jen you call it,
Starting point is 02:39:30 but this most recent, uh, one that I saw, you know, they kind of, that got a very played out look to it. I think at a certain point where it's like age two grace. No,
Starting point is 02:39:40 but there is like a more recent generation of that Chrysler 300 that I did again. It caught my and maybe those are even like five years old now i don't know i think that that body style is yeah right old now but when i saw that came back out it did it to me again where again i'm like i think that looks kind of cool again you know even though i had already experienced gone through the life cycle the other one had been like that's not cool that looks lame now and now when this new version of it came out i I kind of again was like,
Starting point is 02:40:06 yeah, you got me again. I do think that that kind of looks cool. I don't know how well that car sold. It did seem like a pretty popular car. That first generation version. I mean, you do have to consider it as a Chrysler product.
Starting point is 02:40:20 So let's got that going for you. Right, right. Yeah. But you could get one of the Hemi, which is pretty cool too. Yeah, I suppose there's the more, yeah, those variations. The performance-oriented variants. Right, right.
Starting point is 02:40:34 But that's not the common one I'm really thinking of either. Was it a rear-wheel drive car? You know, I think they were all-wheel drive, actually. That is a good question, though. I don't know for sure. Yeah. Okay. think they were all-wheel drive actually um that is a good question though i don't know for sure yeah okay well to cut to the chase on that one i guess i think it's probably although i did think they were cool i think it's overrated okay although it's probably not really something like i think a lot of people have a lot of people have that perception at this point the similar thing that me where it's uh you know maybe it's been devalued to the point of.
Starting point is 02:41:07 Yeah. And if I really think about that newer version, that newer version doesn't look too bad. I could drive that and not. And I bet it's probably a fairly nice car inside. I'm making some assumptions there. So they have both rear wheel and all wheel drive options. A rear wheel drive car in Western Northeast South Dakota
Starting point is 02:41:26 as your primary mode of transportation is a terrible choice. It's a little tricky. But if it's your pony in the stable, I'm going to say it's overrated. Okay. Car and Driver gave it a 6 out of 10 for 2022 in case you're wondering how it stacked up. Their rating did not change in
Starting point is 02:41:45 21 20 or 2019 they did give it a 7 out of 10 so okay do with that what you will the new uh that new style was maybe that it could be it could be um you can get get a used one here from carfax for 8600 bucks bet it's got a lot of my 159 000 miles on it okay broken just getting broken mopar that's right all right final question you could say this one's for all the all the all the 300 marbles all 300 marbles in this one overrated underrated recording 300 podcast episodes oh it's underrated there is a shitload that goes into that it is so yeah it is so rare in the uh sphere of podcasts you know statistically i would have to assume it's a fraction of a fraction of a frat. You know, it's just, uh,
Starting point is 02:42:45 yeah, I, I don't know what, what outside of like the biggest podcast and like daily news type things. Right. What goes for 300 episodes? Yeah. It's funny. We've talked about car talk several times,
Starting point is 02:43:01 click and clack. And I, I didn't realize one of them died and Oh, 2000. And someone will keeps correcting me that i've messed this up before but whatever year they died 2014 one of them died and someone put in the statistic today in october of this year they had so much content pre-recorded that they just ran out of fresh oh really yeah and uh 2014 he died before we even started the mass dynamics podcast seven years of backlog yeah built up yeah that's insane that doesn't seem possible even that doesn't seem possible does it holy but that's like it
Starting point is 02:43:40 almost seems like someone better fact check that like okay so are people calling in with questions then for cars from like 2002 and like talking about that's almost where like someone better fact check that. Like, okay. So are people calling in with questions then for cars from like 2002 and like talking about that's almost where like some of that doesn't even seem like it's relevant. Like with cars, I'm not saying that it's not relevant, but it's less relevant. It's less relevant. Yeah. Right. Right.
Starting point is 02:43:56 Yeah. Um, I don't know. I don't know. That's wow. That's it. But so the question of the, I think it's underrated i think uh you know podcast so let's take off npr shows and like these nationwide channels off the table and look at people maybe in of comparable spheres to us and i think it's pretty
Starting point is 02:44:20 exceptionally rare is what i would call it yeah who was um uh um uh it's pretty exceptionally rare is what I would call it. Yeah. Who was, uh, um, uh, it's getting late. I can't think who's the guys, not the guys that we had the podcast with that.
Starting point is 02:44:33 They've been doing it way longer than us. Uh, iron, iron radio, iron radio. God, I could not fill Stevenson. And yeah,
Starting point is 02:44:41 they're, they're at like six or 700 episodes. Yeah. That's pretty wild. So that's our good. We'll just like 600 or 700 episodes. Yeah. That's pretty wild. So that's our good. We'll just have to reel them in. We can't quit. We can't gain ground.
Starting point is 02:44:50 We can't quit until they quit and then go for three more years. That's just the bar. Yeah. We just have to. That seems a little daunting. We'll just like four years behind whatever they do. So we make sure we pass them. Imagine the number of lifting podcasts that came and went in the amount of time that we've oh my god or you know some the number
Starting point is 02:45:10 of podcasts that have been in the top 10 podcasts for weeks on end and no longer exist since we've been around right yeah like so many of those podcasts that are in the top 10 had to have just disappeared within six months of being out. Yeah. No, I think that's underrated for sure. But what about 301 episodes? I haven't experienced it yet, so I guess I can't say. Yeah, to me, we just hit the starting line finally.
Starting point is 02:45:43 Like we just got into the blocks right now. Yeah, like all the rest of it is just then. We just got done with the warm-up, the stretching, like the little jump into the blocks right now yeah like the all the rest of it is just then we just got done with the warm-up the stretching like the little all right the little now the working sets yeah we're just about ready for the gun to go yeah yeah to tell us to start that's where we're at and then it gets real that's right i did have one final over under to fit the theme that we didn't cover. Overrated or underrated? Batting an average of 300 in baseball. See, I'm not a baseball guy at all, but the way I understand it, that's really, really good, isn't it?
Starting point is 02:46:13 No, no, that's not really, really good. That's just like, that's kind of the bar, isn't it? Batting 300 is good. Batting 400 is the rare milestone. Yeah, that's the one that doesn't happen anymore, right? Yeah, I think, I don't know if Tony Gwynn batted 400. I think he was pushing that at one point. Maybe Ted Williams.
Starting point is 02:46:29 I don't know. Maybe people more recently than that. I don't know. See, it's kind of funny because my former roommate was a really big baseball guy. And it was not that long ago we were actually talking about batting averages. So we were saying how something about being right. 30% of the time just doesn't matter in anything, except like in baseball,
Starting point is 02:46:49 30% of the time is, is good. We'll get you a, we said is good. And he's like, well, actually, and then he told me like how,
Starting point is 02:46:54 whatever that is, that's changed over time where 300 used to be. And I'm going to say this probably wrong. Whatever way I say it is like 300 used to be important and now it's less important or 300 used to be not that important. And now it's more, I forget which one it is just because I don't know well enough. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:47:10 Cause I'm not a baseball guy, but batting 300, it's, I guess I'll say, because I don't know enough, I'll say it's overrated because you should be batting more than 300. Yes. That's how I'll look at it.
Starting point is 02:47:25 That'd be like if only out of our 300 episodes, if only 90 of them were good. I wish that was the case. Is that the right math? Maybe I was wrong on that. Third. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:47:38 About, yeah. About 90-ish. Yeah. If you said 33.333, we'd know 100 for sure then but right you said 30 so yeah yeah it's 90 then okay yeah it is 90 um only 90 good nah you can maybe throw out the podcast soccer made simple they had six episodes uh yeah still no article from aberdeen magazine for this one yeah can't have it all, can you? That reminds me, Tommy.
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Starting point is 02:49:29 Where things are accepted. Everywhere that things are accepted. I kind of get what they're saying, but I don't know if that narrows it down. I don't know if it makes sense. Like the person that wrote that, they were they english-speaking or not because it kind of doesn't make sense i don't think it was their primary language clearly a second maybe a third language for them really close it into that three hour mark three hours on 300 has a certain ring to it it does that's why part of me is like god 10 more
Starting point is 02:50:02 minutes i mean it's already 11 23 that's insane i didn't know we were i knew we were over to my god it's almost 11 30 yeah it's very late i'm glad i don't gotta work tomorrow i feel sorry for any sucker that has to work tomorrow call in sleepy yeah geez um tanner energy drinks What's the deal with those things, huh? Airline peanuts. I had a sugar-free Red Bull for the first time in so long. Like, I probably hadn't had a sugar-free Red Bull since before we started the podcast. Yeah. That's a long time if you can even wrap your head around that.
Starting point is 02:50:49 I can't remember back to before the podcast. And it was pretty good it's pretty good i kind of kind of liked it does sugar-free red bull taste like red bull or does it have a difference uh it's basically it has the red bull taste to it okay it's probably been actually outside of having red bull and liquor i couldn't even tell you the last time i had red bull uh just a can of red bull i actually haven't had much red bull liquor lately either so i don't know if I've ever had a can of Red Bull. Really? I mean, I've had Red Bull vodkas and liquor. I don't know if I've ever. I mean, I've sipped one and stuff,
Starting point is 02:51:13 and I just never really liked it. Yeah, I don't mind. It's a different taste. I don't mind it. But actually, I enjoyed the caffeine, the caffeinated effects of it. Helped me on a little drive i had this weekend keep me from being so sleepy behind the wheel i don't want to turn into a
Starting point is 02:51:30 sleepy bones gave me wings behind the wheel oh it's probably been long enough we should mention again this week we have this oh yeah it's been almost three hours since we talked about this we have the massonomics podcast box set limited edition collectors commemorative what other like adjectives and stuff like it's commemorative it's collective it's limited special it is and all of those are true it's it's special limited edition commemorative commemorating the episode 300 of them being made and then once uh it was made we're just shattered into millions of you yeah you could never we cast it into the depths of mordor we said this is western northern south dakota and we threw it down that deep mold
Starting point is 02:52:17 of the t-shirt mold great we're never getting that thing back it's gone No, we only made 49. We still needed that. It's ruined. But so you get non-fungible maybe? Yeah, this is non-fungible. A non-fungible. Getting an important phone call right now. From Quebec, Canada. I have to almost suspect it's
Starting point is 02:52:42 someone from the Discord that has the number or something i don't know what do you think could do you answer it you could or you could i have a pretty strict policy of not answering calls when i don't know the number yeah i i like to not break that no matter what well Well, they called twice. Really? They should almost just send a text. It's definitely someone. Who would have your number, though?
Starting point is 02:53:14 You know, I bet it's from the episode when we called several people, when they wrote in questions and we called them. And we called someone and they kept it, they said, you know, massonomics number. I waited for just this occasion.
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Starting point is 02:53:43 they'll do that version to us where they leave us like in a lurch. Like totally punk us on our own show. Yeah. Yeah. No one takes advantage of us. Yeah, so we're not going to do that. But we were talking about the limited edition, ultra limited edition podcast that it comes with.
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Starting point is 02:54:46 it's been a while on Silly Pints it's good to have another one in the collection isn't it I'm happy to say I own every Silly Pint ever made yeah we've got one of each I got one of them all they're pretty banging so get that stuff bought make sure to sign up to become a supporting member
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Starting point is 02:55:57 but you can also DM us and we can get you that link to sign up. And then if you ever can't find the discount code and you're a verifiable member we will i'll just hook you up with the discount code if you get spam filter spam filters am i right you know it's like i want this message it's not this message that's a spam filter i wonder if i i don't think i had ever i just wanted to make sure i didn't have any other overrated underrated oh i did just have one other thing um Actually taking pencil to paper for notes. So pencil and paper notes.
Starting point is 02:56:29 I think that's actually underrated. I do. I admittedly have not been doing enough of it lately. You get too many things in your head and you can't quite get them out. And still the fastest way to do almost anything, quick things, is just pencil and paper. That reminds me of something else. I've watched a few episodes of John Wilson.
Starting point is 02:56:50 Oh, have you? How you do things. Did you start in season one? Season one. Okay, okay. And I just watched the episode with the foreskin guy. Oh, my God. Is that like the weirdest thing?
Starting point is 02:57:01 And the fact that he's keeping a straight face to this whole thing. That's so, I guess I don't know what I, I just pictured it was, it just was Nathan for you. Just the same show. Okay. You know,
Starting point is 02:57:15 it's just a guy who literally walks around every day with a video. Right. Like this. And like actually every day in my mind, I was comparison comparing John. It's John Wilson, right? Yep. John Wilson to Nathan Fielder.
Starting point is 02:57:27 Nathan Fielder to me is kind of like a comedian that picked up on a really good dry shtick that like really works. It's very, very calculated. Yeah. John Wilson, I think, is a very weird dude. I think he amplifies it a little bit for the show. I don't think he's quite that much.
Starting point is 02:57:46 But yeah, he plays the part great. And like his notebooks, where he literally has written down everything he's done for... Ever. Ever in these little things. I'm like, that's like... Some OCD. Yeah, there's some conditions involved.
Starting point is 02:58:06 And, you know, you never see him hardly in the show. Season two, you see him a little, because he puts more clips of his old self on. He was actually on a court TV. He sued someone and went on, like, one of those court TV shows, which is really, really funny. But I do give that a recommendation to watch. Isn't it just so wacky and out there,
Starting point is 02:58:25 but does it kind of make you seem like I'm not sure I want to go to New York, right? It's, it, it's tough though. The, when I do get to, I don't get to watch TV that often when I do,
Starting point is 02:58:35 it's usually like just before my bedtime. And what's tough about that show though, is it's so low key where I'm like, it's almost relaxing at times. It is like, it will lull me to sleep where almost where i've had to even like re-watch like i've only made it like two through two or three episodes because i actually kind of have had to re-watch stuff because i'm like
Starting point is 02:58:54 it's good but it makes me fall asleep like every time i watched three episodes the last three episodes the other night and my wife started she made it about 10 minutes into the first one before she was out. And I was very tired watching all of them. But I'd like to be like, kind of do a chuckled nose laugh. And then I'd be very tired. And then something would get me again. And I just did that for like another 45 minutes.
Starting point is 02:59:18 But it's just good enough that it keeps pulling you in. And I do like how the episodes kind of start in one place. And it's like most shows, how the episodes kind of start in one place and yeah it's like most store most shows the story is kind of like here and then step two step three step four we're done where his it's like all right you like spin around scribble what is like uh covering furniture yes and all of a sudden you're into like uh yeah a way but yeah like filming this man with his penis out in his house and the guy doesn't think it's weird. And you know, the daughter's like, oh God, Dan's doing this thing again. I love the way he like films the daughter for like, as this is going on.
Starting point is 02:59:51 That's how you know he's like aware to an extent, like he can pick up on things like that because most people that there really are that out of touch don't, can't, can't know when to like pick up on those subtle things that people are putting down. But three hour mark. We did it. Three hour mark. Wow. any other closing remarks on 300 um that's probably it all right gotta save something for next week right we gotta save something don't want to talk about it all this week we gotta come back for another one and another one and another one and another one all
Starting point is 03:00:21 right great glad everyone listened if you made it this far, kudos to you. Three hours. New record. We had to do it to them. We had to do something. I didn't even know we were going to do this. I thought we'd get,
Starting point is 03:00:33 before we started, we were like, whew, this could be two hours tonight. We did three. Okay. All right. Thanks, Discord.
Starting point is 03:00:40 Thanks, everyone. Thanks for listening. Yeah, thanks for everyone that's been along for the ride of 300 and that's made it all possible in whatever way, shape, or form, whether that's buying our stuff. I guess either way, go buy some Mastodonics stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:00:53 Tommy, where do they find you at? You can find me at Tomahawk underscore D. You can follow me at Tanner underscore Bear. Just make sure to follow Mastodonics at Mastodonics. See ya.

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