Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 314: Robert Oberst

Episode Date: April 11, 2022

Big Robert Oberst, The American Monster, joins us for this one to talk strongman, boxing, hunting, Mickey Avalon, and of course… deadlifting! This one is dedicated to all of you that are strong and ...pretty. Juggernaut AI: juggernautai.app and use code MASSENOMICS to save 10% The Strength Co: https://www.thestrength.co/ Swiss Link: https://www.swisslink.com and use code MASS to save 15% Fusion Sports Performance: https://www.fusionsp.net/ MASS to save 20% on all FSP supplements Spud Inc: https://www.spud-inc-straps.com/ Texas Power Bars: https://www.texaspowerbars.com/

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You know, thanks for what you do with your podcasts and all the rest. You're doing a great job. Hope everybody keeps tuning in. You get a lot of good info, a lot of insights, understandings on how to get strong, how to stay strong, how to use your strength. You do a great job, dude. You make things better than they are in real life, I think.
Starting point is 00:00:16 If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics. Yeah. Welcome back, everyone, for episode 314 of the Massanomics podcast, the lifting podcast about Nerfin, recorded live from Western, North, East, South Dakota. My name is Tanner. And my name is Tommy.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Episode 314, Tommy. You know what that means. Big announcement. Big announcement. Oh, did you have anything? No, I don't have. I was hoping you were going to give me an impromptu big announcement. No.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Like if I wished for it, it would just show up. See, I was on the same boat. I was really hoping you had a big announcement that i could be excited for too much wishful thinking i guess uh well actually there is something kind of exciting here we have a new sponsors sponsor of today's show yes is this thing on make sure everyone's listening here there's a new sponsor for today's episode and it is drum roll please Drum roll, please. Juggernaut AI. Juggernaut AI has joined us as our newest sponsor of the Massonomics podcast. And first and most importantly, I want to lead with this. We have a discount code, and it is Massonomics, the full word. So don't leave off those last six letters.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Yeah, you got to include the enomics on it um massomics will so if you're rushing to go sign up right now i wanted to make sure that you at least do about the discount code if you're like like i can't listen to the rest of this ad i have to get go get signed up right now now you know the discount code is massonomics and um this has been uh in the works for a little while with with chad that we've talked about this and we've uh made it happen here i um this is actually kind of i haven't talked about this previously but i've been using this is where the infomercial starts right yes from from a testimony from a real customer real customers have to say i first started using the Juggernaut AI app, I think. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Did we lose something? I believe the dog knocked the video plug out. Okay. You can keep talking. Okay, yeah. You can keep talking. Okay, so I first started using the Juggernaut AI app about five or six months ago. And I hadn't really talked about it on the podcast yet. I was kind of waiting for this to talk about it more and I've really been enjoying it. There's several
Starting point is 00:02:53 specific things that I really like about it that I'll probably continue to talk about more as we go through these ads over the coming weeks. But just personally, number one thing I've really enjoyed is how personalized it can get, you know, how I've adapted it over time for kind of what I'm shooting for. And even as like my goals have changed, how I've been able to adapt that program along with it. And one of the biggest things by having the app, even just like literally having it all recorded there all the time your history on all these lifts some of these lifts uh maybe like accessory or secondary lifts that i almost like write off as i just what i my weight of this lift is 95 pounds and that's what i do for my sets like every time and when you can kind of progress some of those smaller ones, that's probably something that I never focused on that much in the past
Starting point is 00:03:47 that the Juggernaut AI app has helped me be able to do. And we have a special ad read for this, but I wanted to save a funny little ad read for this, but I wanted to save that for future episodes and just give a little real-life talk about Juggernaut AI. And like i said uh discount code massonomics to check them out um i don't know go to the app store it works on what iphones or what is the alternative on the google play store but you also said that the the
Starting point is 00:04:19 app itself is very well designed and yeah yes the app itself i you know like the the training and programming is obviously one thing but like partly the coolest thing to me is just how nice that how much i like the app itself um but yeah you can get that app for ios or google play and or just google juggernaut ai you'll find all about it so thank you juggernaut ai our newest sponsor of the show thank you and we got video back. We got video. Yeah, so depending on who's watching on YouTube and who's listening, the dog laid against the power cable for the recording monitor.
Starting point is 00:04:54 It's happened once. It's happened a thousand times. He's trying to sabotage us, I think. He's like, that's enough. But I think we got it fixed now. Okay. The other company I want to talk about right away i saved an email from earlier this week that i liked it was from spud ink spud dash ink dash traps.com mr ink himself yeah they're talking about their
Starting point is 00:05:14 harnesses uh this was spud talking he said we've designed almost a dozen unique harnesses to meet everyone's need um they had a new harness they're coming out this this last week it was our the harness actually no there was a sale on harnesses this might be too late for the sale but i just liked that they gave me a good synopsis of all their harnesses their best seller is their deadlift harness the deadlift harness is a great way to keep getting stronger through the upper body injury that won't allow for traditional deadlifts. Using the deadlift harness takes the grip 100% out of the lift so you can deadlift with bicep strains, forearm injuries, or shoulder strains that bug you during the pull. Use the deadlift harness for conventional deads, sumo deads, and even good mornings. The deadlift harness works
Starting point is 00:05:59 on any bar and even most belt squat machines. If you're not broken, this harness is a great way to change up your accessory work. Then they've also got strongman harnesses, charger harness. Their new charger harness is a great way to get a ton of athletes through conditioning without the hassle of changing sizes and adjusting belts to fit different size athletes. The charger can be used for forward sprint work, back pedal drills drills and even just heavy sled drags and they've also got the track harness the sprinter harness and several sizes on all of those so a whole bunch of different harnesses yeah and there was a sale on those that might be over now yeah so you may have missed out on the sale you know with our disjointed recording schedule over here. Just in case the sale still is active, it's Harness 15.
Starting point is 00:06:48 But I wasn't really reading it for the sale. I just wanted, I liked the good listing of all the different harnesses. The context of their problem solving. Try out Harness 15. If it doesn't work, you know, email them a really angry email and tell them you heard about the MathSomics podcast.
Starting point is 00:07:04 So thank you sponsors thank you tommy we've got an exciting episode today we've got a very special guest planned here super cool one that we've been trying to get for a while uh mr might even be an understatement yeah yeah for years we've been working on that um we were gone at a power lifting meet this week and we did some road trip in yeah and um we've got a special announcement about next week something that's we're coming out with so we've got all kinds of stuff yeah we do supporting our sporting members we'll get to that too i suppose yep gotta have some of that in there yeah so do we want to talk about uh our sioux falls experience we should talk about that
Starting point is 00:07:45 yeah oh and you just came back from vacation too i was on vacation yeah i went to miami i'd never been to miami i've been to florida a few times i'd never been to miami and miami's really cool yeah i i didn't i didn't really go to like rage and just party non-stop with my wife she's pregnant at the my wife yeah so uh like staying up till three or four in the morning and drinking wasn't high on our priority list but uh miami is really cool they got a whole we we talked about this we said a lot of towns or cities like to say like oh it's a vibe there they got a vibe but like miami definitely has a vibe like it's it kind of actually feels like you're in a different country just yeah a lot of places feel like you're in a different country compared to south dakota but right really
Starting point is 00:08:27 going there it's like whoa it's its own like everything's different down here like nothing is the same so yeah uh the beach was good the weather was good uh food was good drinks are good it was a good trip did you uh so did you party in the city where the heat the first night was the most partying i did you know was really, really excited to be there. The weather's nice and the drinks just start going down. So that was one of those where luckily my wife was like, I think it's time we go back. And I was getting to that point where I was either about to really turn it on
Starting point is 00:08:59 and go for like four more hours. All night in the city until the break of dawn. That's what exactly. I'd have been waking up on the beach probably. But she luckily had my best interests in mind. So I don't think I ever really stayed up past like midnight-ish any day. So no break of dawn. No break of dawn.
Starting point is 00:09:16 No break of dawn. But it was, yeah, it was a lot of fun. I would definitely, I would highly recommend Miami. I would, yeah. Absolutely. Good time. And you made it back just in time for the Sioux Falls State USAPL.
Starting point is 00:09:27 That was literally just in time. That actually was the biggest stress of the entire trip. This was meant to be kind of like an unwind, relaxed type vacation. And it was. It was very much that. It was a great time for it. But on the way back,
Starting point is 00:09:40 we had just one connecting flight was all. Just a connecting flight in Dallas that would then take us to Sioux Falls, South Dakota. We were going to land. We were going to get to Sioux Falls on Saturday night. There'd be a hotel waiting for us. It was the hotel connected to the USAPL powerlifting meet. So I could just get up in the morning, walk right over,
Starting point is 00:09:57 greet you, Tanner, set up the booth, and it'd be perfect. It's going to be perfect. And for whatever reason, there was like a three and a half hour delay trying to leave the Miami airport. We just sat and waited and waited and waited then you got on the plane and you sat and waited and waited and i'm just like looking at the clock like man if things go absolutely perfect we might make it but you're like no no it'll work out things always work out right yeah and uh it it was very very tight when we landed and they they got on the the plane and said you know there's some people with some tight connections so if you're one of those people like
Starting point is 00:10:31 let them go you know let those people go first and we got our bags and took off running across the airport like i've never had to like just run across the airport before and i was a classic movie yeah i was one of those guys and uh i'm running and you get to the gate and the plane's still there but the door's closed and you can't and that is like i've never had that happen that's a very defeating feeling like with the plane sitting there and they're like nope sorry you can't do it yeah and so then we had to uh we caught a flight to chicago stayed in chicago for the night and then got up early in the morning and finally made it to sunny Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
Starting point is 00:11:06 I think I showed up, but it was just a little after 10, I think. Meat started at 10. So unfortunately I missed out on setting up the booth, but I didn't miss out on much of the day besides that. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Did the meat even started by the time? It had started actually. It must have just barely started though. Yeah. I think, I think there was like maybe the third, because I mean the first squat attempt I saw was like 80 pounds. There can't be many people below that. uh well the bar weighs 45 exactly that's it
Starting point is 00:11:29 can't be so i might have missed one attempt uh before that one but uh so then yeah we got to the meet and it was a fun time it was good meet very good meet we had uh five lifters for mass gym competing there and several other people uh from all around our the area that uh you know we know and have known and lifted with many times over the years so it's fun to go to them biggest isn't the biggest state already as far as population goes so you do a few of these things you kind of almost you know like 50 of the people for sure and there's a good chance the other 25 you've seen before yeah and then the other 25 is like the new people. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:05 That's true. And it was really cool, really well run. Meet Gino was there announcing, of course. So we got to catch up with Gino a little bit since we had him on a few weeks ago even. And then Big Jonah Leo, who we've had on the podcast a couple of times, he is the meet director, runs it, puts it together.
Starting point is 00:12:22 He puts on an off awesome like presentation there like it just the way it flows and not even that even for the lifters too yeah it's warm-up room area platform all that it's he they played the um my interview with gino as like as on the on the big screen they played like the youtube cliff of me interviewing Gino to announce Gino at the beginning of the meet. So that was pretty funny. Yeah. I didn't know that that was coming exactly like that. So I was like, hey, that's the Mastinomics video up there.
Starting point is 00:12:57 So that was cool. And we sold quite a bit of stuff. We did. More than what we would have guessed. Literally more than what we both guessed we would have. Yeah yeah not that we've done a ton of these meets but we kind of have like an idea of what to expect at a meet and this one exceeded our expectations so yeah but he does a great job of bringing a crowd in too there was a really good crowd there and i think we probably made some new massonomics uh supporters fans and stuff over our experience there so that's cool
Starting point is 00:13:23 yeah i was trying to do a rough count on the chairs. Like when we were leaving, I think there was close to like 300 chairs. Yeah, and they were mostly full for the whole day. Yeah, good chunks of the day, basically all of them were full. And there was a lot of people standing too. So I don't think it's the most common thing in the world to have a local powerlifting meet have 300 spectators. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:40 I think that's the exception way more than the norm. Jack and I had left really early from western northeast south dakota on saturday morning to get there in time to set up and it was possibly like the most ice the most treacherously icy roads i have ever driven on for like a stretch of about 50 some miles it was like an episode of ice road truckers it was like it was icier than on what the pure ice that they drive on an ice road truckers i'm pretty sure it was icier than ice on the interstate i was going 40 for at least 50 miles 40 to 45 and did not get past once if that's an indicator of that is when
Starting point is 00:14:17 you really know how things are and also almost didn't like jack woke up one time for a while and i was like where are we and i'm like we're on the a while and I was like, where are we? And I'm like, we're on the interstate. And he's like, what, where are the cars? And I'm like, nobody else is driving in this. Anytime that I would touch the gas pedal, any amount,
Starting point is 00:14:34 like, like if you just want to accelerate from 45 to 50, you know, that amount of that initial feeling when you just accelerate a little bit, any bit of like a slight change in speed, I could literally feel the entire vehicle just moving. And I was like, feeling when you just accelerate a little bit any bit of like a slight change in speed i could literally feel the entire vehicle just moving yeah and i was um had i actually contemplated pulling over a few different times and i'm like i don't know what that gains me because my hope was
Starting point is 00:14:57 we're getting to daybreak and we're also traveling south eventually we'll get like it just has to get warmer well i'm like it's and it was like 29 degrees i need it to be like 32 ish and i kept watching my tent and it just did slowly tick up and the sun came getting a little higher and we were making it farther south and eventually it uh we got out of it yeah yeah yeah it was the iciest road i've probably ever driven and when you said that i showed up and it was a beautiful spring day. By the time we got to Sioux Falls, it was great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:27 And I thought, Oh man, I can't even imagine that. Yeah. So I missed out on that. And it was also very dense fog. Yeah. Extremely dense fog,
Starting point is 00:15:35 which just adds to the fun. I mean, if someone was crashed in front of me, there's no, like, even if they're like a mile in front of me, it would have been like, there's no way.
Starting point is 00:15:43 It's like, like even if it was so icy, if you knew they're out there like a mile, it'd be almost like the Austin powers scene where you're just standing there screaming for a long time. Cause I'm like, I've been breaking for a mile. Like I'm,
Starting point is 00:15:53 I'd love to stop. Nothing can happen. Yeah. Yeah. But it was, uh, as far as the day, it was a good day.
Starting point is 00:16:01 And yeah, like you said, we did, I think we got to get in front of a lot of people that we had luckily i'm a professional driver throwback that's been stated yeah that's been stated before but we did definitely we got to meet some people at the at the meet that we had never seen before yeah uh that i think were either unfamiliar or had never heard of mass or were unfamiliar with us that i think we made a pretty good connection with. So yeah, should be just reaping the rewards of that
Starting point is 00:16:30 for years to come. Yep, absolutely. And then on the way back, Tanner, there was also another surprise when we went into the parking lot with your trailer. Oh. So this parking lot has kind of, maybe we should say you just have bad luck in this parking lot.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Yeah. The last time you parked there. The last powerlifting meet I went to there, the Sioux Falls, I think the Sioux Falls Canaries are now the Sioux Falls Pheasants. I think you might be right. They stole the Aberdeen Pheasants name actually is what they did there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Because it was the semi-professional or would you say i think they're semi-professional i don't know what the actual term is amateur what they used to be the aberdeen uh local baseball team when i was growing up was the aberdeen pheasants and they had like a history of being here for like 40 years yeah a long time didn't uh some pretty big mlb players i think so actually they came through the i'm trying to remember there was some big names that came through like in the... Through the Pheasants. Yeah, I think in the 50s and 60s. And the Sioux Falls team
Starting point is 00:17:29 was always the Canaries and then the Aberdeen Pheasants, they quit playing like 20 years ago probably if not more than that. And since somewhere in the mid-time the Sioux Falls team switched, they stole the Pheasants name, which smart move because that's a lot... That's way better. Yeah, that's a lot better better yeah it's a lot better than you know they call the stadium they call the bird cage
Starting point is 00:17:49 isn't it the cockpit no the cockpit no oh okay because it used to be the it was the bird cage but it could still make sense but so I was parked by the bird cage but not like outside the outfield I was like well plus plus let's let's remember that when this happened to you the first time oh it was like the second week of March and it was what? 30 degrees outside. And anyway, so I walk out. Windshield is obliterated. Baseball went through, like hit like the dead center of the windshield.
Starting point is 00:18:15 And this is a Buick we're talking about here. No, it was my pickup. Oh, it was your pickup. Oh, I thought it was the Buick that that happened on. Or was it? I could be wrong. I think it was my pickup. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Maybe it was the Buick. In my mind, I always pictured the Buick i actually can't it's funny like thinking about the story i can't remember the process of getting it fixed or anything like that all i remember is the feeling when i came out and then baseball was like there on the ground too so it happened recently and then like a couple not players but like who knows it was like the manager or something somebody two guys from the canaries came out like as i'm just discovering this and they're like oh sorry about that and i was like i was mad you know of course i'm like yeah he's like oh we could get you some free tickets or something like that
Starting point is 00:18:56 and i'm like i and i literally risk breaking this again and i go i don't want tickets i want a new windshield and they're like sorry sorry. And then walked away. Like, probably I would have to, you know, like. Like, I better get out of here before something bad happens. Before I get chastised and that's it. So this time we go out and you have the trailer parked there. Yeah. And was it Jack that noticed?
Starting point is 00:19:18 Yeah, Jack noticed. The fender of the trailer is actually touching the tire. Yeah, someone had ran into it and like smashed the fender and and cut like cut the through the offender like a pop can basically like through an aluminum pop yeah so it was like a sharp point against the tire yeah which that was annoying and yeah it sucks for your trailer but you took you know your what the trailer hitch and you bent it back and it was so so because it was very sharp and jagged and like very close to like it was actually on the tire for you know like we weren't
Starting point is 00:19:50 going to be able to drive at all uh without it popping and it got it bent away enough that it's fine now and it's not that big of a deal but it's just like every one of those things that happen i'm like i don't want my stuff to look like yes crap yes and there's that and then also the question of that was some major there's some also the question of, that was some major, or some, I shouldn't say major, that was some decent damage to it, like a thick metal fender. What does that other person's vehicle look like right now?
Starting point is 00:20:12 Like that had to have popped a hole in the side of the body and like ripped it, right? Yeah, I would think, I mean, it could have been, depending on what it hit it and where's the bumper, maybe it didn't do that much. Oh, I guess maybe it caught the bumper.
Starting point is 00:20:23 But still, it had to have done some damage. But the person didn't leave a note or anything like that of course they're like i'm out of here it was a hit and run classic case then on the way back got a rock chip in my windshield too but i got that fixed already oh did you oh well it's good for you on top of that yep so that was our trip that was overall good trip yeah a lot of overall good trip what do we got next in the list here um this is kind of all you know we're our recording schedule is a little different so we kind of missed the whole slap thing like we we're at a point in time where we didn't like we recorded like right before the slap thing so we kind of missed that so we probably don't have to talk yeah as far as yes
Starting point is 00:21:01 current events go yeah the slap yep totally yeah and then um the other thing that happened though in the lifting world is louis simmons passed away like in between like we had just recorded with jim wendler i think it'd been within hours of us recording that yeah i think so so we that's not why if you listen to the wendler episode we didn't mention it with them you might have thought why didn't you it's weird you didn't talk about that and um uh that's why because we had just just recorded with him prior to finding out about that um so obviously that's a big deal in the lifting world you know um so big of a deal that the gym video moved from pumping iron back to yes we just got pumping iron and we had to put we just like we've had west side on ever since and uh i don't know what you know that's um you
Starting point is 00:21:43 know the power lifting scene is just is probably never quite the same without louis simmons and even you know especially specifically west side is definitely not the same without uh yeah without louis what happens over there now i don't know that's a good question it wasn't always i don't know if there's anyone that like like uh affected power lifting as much as louis simmons has probably yeah i'd say like if you had to pick one person that's maybe had the biggest effect on power lifting over like the last 30 years i would have to would probably guess it's him i don't really know i'm trying to think of who else would even be yeah i'm struggling to think of yeah i don't think there is i mean
Starting point is 00:22:21 and i don't know if there ever will be anyone either too you know that yeah much of a uh influence over the entire thing yeah i don't know who else would yeah i mean it is him that's yeah that's the reason we all wear squat suits now right well not exactly that. And then, well, how much do we want to talk about? We've got something coming up next week. Do we want to talk about that at all? Are we even specifically talking about those? I guess we can say we have a drop coming, right?
Starting point is 00:22:59 And it should be next week. It's this week, right? As of listening to this? Yeah, right, right. Thursday of the, unless you're listening live right now if you're in the discord crew then we're a week ahead of you but uh if you're listening to this it'd be thursday we have a big drop coming and i would say it's kind of a big drop right it is well this card has some good things going on uh there is two brand new never before seen upper body items yeah and
Starting point is 00:23:26 one of them i mean really i am excited about both of them but one of them's particularly funny yes for reasons yes for reasons yeah i mean they're both funny for reasons so yeah if you're looking for if you're looking for the serious items in this drop yeah they're not there but uh they're you could say we did some outside the box thinking on this one. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think people are going to be,
Starting point is 00:23:50 I think people are going to be kind of surprised. I think so. One of these items, one of these ones, a fear have been a long time. I'd say this. If you've been a long time, if you're in the Mac at massonomics ecosphere,
Starting point is 00:24:01 one of these things particularly plays to you, you know know actually to the point where uh someone that's just became a a follower of massonomics in the last year they'd be like i don't know what this is no goddamn sense at all yeah like who i don't even know what some of you you will be like this is the greatest thing i've ever seen i need two of them now yeah so i'm really excited for that and there's also some items that aren't directly related to t-shirts so there's a good mix
Starting point is 00:24:30 in this I think it's going to be a really fun drop yes do we need the can should we can it up this isn't a what's in the can this is just a refreshment because you know what I realized last episode we got on recording jim wendler episode we never opened
Starting point is 00:24:50 a can we had a can here we did the whole episode that's why i was so thirsty yeah we did a whole episode without drinking anything so today we've got a polar lime calorie free one of the all-time enjoyment free enjoyment heavy yeah someone said quick update the spreadsheet that reminds me i'll talk about that after our guests here but there's yeah but on that topic uh the discord has been incredibly active lately yeah very active community it's just every week i think it's as active as it can get and then it gets more active the next week well Well, speaking of the Discord community, that leads us well into supporting our supporting members segment of the show. And this is a relatively new segment.
Starting point is 00:25:36 So we have our supporting members. They choose to support the Mastonomics podcast monetarily, and we'd love to have more of you do that. It's what helps us. What does it help us do? Everything. helps us do everything everything yeah it helps us do all of this really afford get out of bed in the waters yes uh big david said rate polar lime i'm pretty sure i'd give it a four i have yet to meet a lime where i can't give it a four so i'd give it a four. I have yet to meet a line where I can't give it a four. Yeah, I'd give it a four.
Starting point is 00:26:07 So supporting our supporting members. Anyways, this is our chance to give back to some of those people a little bit for anything that they did recently that we find noteworthy and that we catch wind of. This week particularly, there are several people that recently competed, several members that competed, so i want to mention those but first i even want to mention uh shout out to big chris supporting member big chris for being instrumental in lining up uh robert oberst for this yes interview he harassed him
Starting point is 00:26:36 just long enough that he even thought that chris was massonomics and gave him his phone number and said fine leave me alone i'll do it that's actually maybe the funniest thing yeah he's like okay no one would no one would bother me this much on behalf of someone you have to be the guy but no no and then other other supporting members we had matthias cash just competed he weighed once some pretty impressive numbers here. He weighed in at 164 pounds. He squatted 551. Nice. Benched 331. Damn.
Starting point is 00:27:08 And deadlifted 650 for a 1532 total. Nine for nine of 501 dots. That's really good. That is very strong. Then we had a big Midwest Jake from State Farm. This was his first ever meet. So that's always fun when it's fun when someone hasn't done one before. He squatted 410, benched 307.
Starting point is 00:27:30 So he cracked the 300 mark there and deadlifted 518. So he broke the 435 and totaled 1235. Then we had a couple of Mastinomics gym guys that are actually supporting members who we happened to watch compete this weekend we had big mason who put up a 575 squat a 402 bench and a 606 deadlift for a 1583 total yeah and his deadlift i think that's oh you could have done 50 more pounds than that yep and he just missed like a 600 poundpound squat, too, that he really was close to getting. And then Big Caden also competed this weekend.
Starting point is 00:28:08 First meet ever. His first meet, yep. He squatted 545. He also benched 402. And then he pulled a 589-pound deadlift PR on his third, and he totaled 1536. Great total. Good stuff from those guys. A lot of supporting members to support and return this week.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Wasn't there? There are. And you also, you know, this is kind of a conflict of interest. Now that we have juggernaut as a, I coach some as, but Tanner,
Starting point is 00:28:34 you did do an eight week peak for someone and I had the, their PR of their life. The first person that I've, I mean, I kind of did coach. I mean, I did his programming for him. And we're talking about Larry Legend here. Larry Legend.
Starting point is 00:28:48 I helped him out with his programming. He wanted some help, and I helped him out with that. And then I helped him out with his attempt selection the day of the meet. I mean, I did it for him. He's the type of person who does better when he doesn't have to do that. Think about as many variables. When he can just lift did that and he ended up totaling 15 20 with a meat squat pr of 567 i think bench 370 any an enormous
Starting point is 00:29:21 deadlift pr of 584 yeah and so this is this is... This is like a 54-pound total PR for him. What makes this even more remarkable is Larry's 45. He's probably done... 20 meets. 20 meets. And he just had the biggest... His body weight, nothing has changed. You just gave him an eight-week prep
Starting point is 00:29:39 and he had like a 50-pound total PR, squat PR, and a deadlift PR. His last 10 consecutive meets prior to this one, he opened on squat. And it's funny if you look at open power lifting, he opened on squat every single meet at five or 1.5. Really? And open on deadlift every single of the last 10 meets at five or 1.5,
Starting point is 00:30:03 every single one, 10 in a row. If you look down the line it's just a column yeah so you got him out of his rut yep and opened higher on both of those maybe actually the biggest accomplishment is you took a guy who is notoriously been a better squatter like can actually squat more than a deadlift and you made his deadlift kind of blow past his squat to the point also by deadlifting almost less you know like not by not deadlifting very much you just flipped it all it was more like uh let's not work
Starting point is 00:30:30 like the strategy and going into that is like you always worry about your deadlift let's not worry about the deadlift we're just going to do a little bit of deadlifting here and focus on some other things and and his deadlift looks and went the best it's ever gotten his whole life yeah to the point where his third attempt was probably 20 pounds too low. Yeah. Okay. So that was really exciting. That was.
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Starting point is 00:32:05 He's a recently new supporting member. He said it's his first live podcast on the Discord crew. So welcome to the crew. And now goodbye. Just like that, we're leaving. Now it's gone. All right. All right, should we get Big Rob on the phone?
Starting point is 00:32:21 Let's do it. Okay. This is exciting, isn't it? It is. We're just banging out so many good. we get Big Rob on the phone. Let's do it. Okay. This is exciting, isn't it? It is. We're just banging out so many good... Every day is exciting when you're talking about massonomics. That's what I tell my wife every day.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Make sure I call the right person. Also my wife. My wife. also my wife big Rob is that you yeah what's up how's it going you're live on the podcast uh the mass comics podcast with tanner and tommy what's up robert what's up boys how you guys doing we're doing great we're good we're excited to get you on yeah i know it's been back and forth for it's gotta be over a year yeah we were talking about that that's all right that uh all good things take time it builds the anticipation yeah yeah and i'm like the worst because i'm always busy and i'm always high when i'm home so i forget everything what it's busy and high that's kind of a deadly combo there busy and high i mean that's why that's you you need a good girl to hold things down.
Starting point is 00:33:45 So, like, I get home, and she's like, you're leaving in 20 minutes to go back to Dallas. What are you talking about? So she makes sure that I'm where I'm supposed to be. We haven't moved into the phase. I think what we've got to do is move into where she's handling my phone calls, too, obviously. Yep, we had Jim Wendler on the podcast uh last week and that's kind of it seems like i think his wife does handle
Starting point is 00:34:11 his she she does that part of it for him even too so that is what you get that is the next step yeah it's a good move i mean i think a good solid 15 years of concussions from football and then all the bong water on top of it. It's the perfect storm. That's exactly right. Sooner or later, I'm going to think I'm Benjamin Button. I'm going to start acting really weird. So you were talking about going between home and dallas and it seems like you're
Starting point is 00:34:46 a lot of places all the time like where where is home and where i mean it seems like you're going places always i'm i'm rocking and rolling man that's really the only way to make money in this industry uh i'm in dallas right now actually pacing naked in my hotel room waiting for them to keep trying to kick me out i was supposed to leave an hour ago but my flight's not till six so i'm staying i i assume if housekeeping walks in and you're standing there naked they're just going to close the door and walk out maybe but if you guys hear me arguing in spanish to turn off the record button okay deal yeah i travel all the time i'm i'm a road warrior man like uh i i have a place in texas outside of san antonio in the brothels which is where like my clothing company and demo ranch and
Starting point is 00:35:37 all that stuff that i work with is and then i spend all the rest of my time in idaho and the two really good states to be in at this time, you know, and then I'm building a ranch. I'm putting a hunting facility up and it's going to be like training facility for, for kids. And my, my girl, um, she taught handgun safety for women for about 12 years. So we're going to have her doing that and stuff like that. But being on the road, man, that's, that's really part of the gig. That's cool. We're so we're, we're going to have her doing that and stuff like that. But being on the road, man, that's really part of the gig. That's cool. So we're in South Dakota.
Starting point is 00:36:09 That's where we're from. That's where we live. You almost need to get a spot here and have like the perfect triangle. South Dakota would be right up your alley in some ways, I think. I think it'd be perfect. You guys have a great governor. But wait, no, is that North Dakota that's got the... No, you know that's
Starting point is 00:36:25 south dakota you're talking about nobody knows who north dakota's governor is okay well you guys you guys do have a great governor every time i see her talking stuff i'm like man i wish i wish brad little was like that but but um that's what i've been telling people lately i've been telling everyone i was like man with the amount of people like people talk a lot about how people move to Texas over the last couple of years, but the number one state that had growth was Idaho. Like, like my, my little spot in Idaho, I didn't get tripled in value, which is like, Hey, that's great. But I would much rather everybody have just moved to dakota with you guys they talk about that that people are moving here too or like it's one of the ones on the list but
Starting point is 00:37:12 i don't think we notice it i have noticed actually i think the census stuff came out and like i think our county actually shrunk and we're like the third biggest county in the state so i don't know it's hard to say yeah yeah you guys're going to be the last line. It's too cold here, honestly. The weather is just brutal. That weeds out 99% of people instantly. If you're from California and you come here, there's no way you're going to make it one winter and be like, no, that was a terrible idea.
Starting point is 00:37:37 If you guys had a big city somewhere for people to hide. Toronto is packed full of that kind of person. People can deal with the cold as long as you've got them liquored up and you've got some type of I don't know, protagonist on a stage telling them that they're quite as
Starting point is 00:37:57 undeniable. With that, you guys just don't allow any big city building. Can you be good? I don't think it's going to happen. I don't think any big city building you'll be good like you can stop it yeah i don't think i'm gonna worry about it uh you'd like the hunting the biggest thing i learned about in the last couple years is how powerless we are like that's the most frustrating thing for me is i feel like i control my life you know know, like I, I, I haven't had anyone to tell me what to do since I was like 14. And so like now with all of this, you can do this.
Starting point is 00:38:32 You can't do that. And like my sisters, two of my sisters cut hair and I watched them, you know, have to worry about losing a house and all that stuff. Luckily I was able to help them like all that kind of stuff, man. It freaked me out with how little power we have. losing a house and all that stuff luckily i was able to help like all that kind of stuff man it freaked me out with how little power we have yeah we're pretty fortunate here i guess that like um it whatever you know more of that stuff is just stuff we saw in the news than like experience personally you know for the most part so it's just so much more isolated here that uh you know so much less populated that
Starting point is 00:39:06 a lot of that stuff just didn't apply in the same way i guess it's a good spot to be i mean that's why a lot of people are moving to places like that but i don't know how i always forced us into this conversation so don't don't feel weird no but i was gonna say what what you'd like about South Dakota is the hunting though. I know you do a lot of big game stuff. Like, do you ever do any bird hunting? Like our county is kind of the pheasant capital of the world. That is awesome. I got to come out for sure.
Starting point is 00:39:37 That's one of the want out of the property mostly is is uh is foul hunting you know it's it's longer season it's kind of a it's a great draw for corporate gigs and stuff like that yes it is fun man i didn't realize how fun it was like i i haven't got a chance to hunt as much as i'd wanted to because you know the hunting season that's that's keith strongman time right so it's been it's been 10 years of me watching my friends hunt and like uh well you know next year maybe and so uh you know i got I got to go out this last season quite a bit. And it was my first time duck hunting. And, fuck, man, it was a blast.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Just so much fun sitting there, you know, and you're just hanging out with your buds, having a beer, getting to eat and talk and sit. Like, it's like, that's a strongman style of hunt. getting to eat and talk and sit like it's like that's a strong man style of hunt i had like i think i had a milkshake one of the days like yeah that's lots of equipment and eating for like just like strong man for like a few seconds of activity yeah it is right but your activity is literally stand up shoot tell the dog to go get it while you grab another thing to eat. While you grab another pack of beef jerky.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Yeah, it's awesome. It is awesome. I loved duck hunting, man. In Idaho, we got a lot of snow geese and Canadian geese and stuff like that. And I took my son out, and it was officially his first hunt he's six and um he's like obsessed with albino animals right now like he's just so obsessed with them like every time he sees the white anything like that cat's albino but um we did the hunting man we i mean i think we only were there for about two hours and seven of us uh limited out like it was amazing yeah
Starting point is 00:41:46 that's cool lots of fun so you got a lot like we're talking about a lot of different stuff going on but one thing uh you've been kind of kick-starting again is the mad your mad ramblings podcast um yeah how's that going do you enjoy podcasting i mean i know you've done you you've like gone full force into youtube for quite a while. How do you like the podcast compared to that? I like the podcast a lot more actually. Like I feel I have a lot more lead way. Some of the things I say, and this will not be a surprise to you guys.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Some of the things I say can be offensive and can catch people, you know, in this, like I have to defend my ideas against what you're saying, you know? And when they listen to me speak for more than just a short little clip, they realize, like, you can tell. I'm a human. I'm a dad. Like, I love people.
Starting point is 00:42:40 I don't have, you know, I don't have I don't, I don't have a bunch of animosity or like any of that kind of stuff. Like even, even when I talk about people moving to my, my States and taking over stuff, it's like kind of jovial. Like I don't, honestly, I would never, I would never not want them to have an opportunity to go somewhere better. Right. Like, so like, I think when you have a podcast, people, they can connect with the parts of you that are kind of displaced with other media. And,
Starting point is 00:43:16 you know, YouTube's better. It's just, YouTube fucks with me too much. So yeah, that YouTube and Instagram and Facebook, I don't use facebook as much as i should but they fucking hate me well instagram is like hiding you right now i can't even like we couldn't even find unless you type in your name perfectly and like with no spaces you won't
Starting point is 00:43:38 even come up i know i know and people people tell me like, Oh, shadow banning is a, it's like a, a conspiracy theory and all that. And I'm like, all right. I can tell you like my, my whole financial, like, um, my, my revenue input and all that kind of stuff. Everything, everything I make gets graphed and my, my tax guy graphs it and sees, and like my internet guy tells me who's coming from where, like all of my stuff is super tracked and I can see the difference from like when I was posting stuff before. And when I'm posting stuff now, like I have more followers than ever, but I have so few of them who get to see my stuff. And it's the same on YouTube. I messed up. like i didn't realize youtube hated guns as much as they do and so like filming my the people i work with like are all big gun people so you know i was like why not do some videos on that so i i did a few of those and then that put me in the shithouse with them really bad and it's like i i'm creating
Starting point is 00:44:46 a new channel to to have like more wild stuff and do different things that i don't have to worry about my my old channel be more for lifting right but i don't know if any of that's gonna matter like i don't know i don't i don't i don't see myself ever not being shadow banned again it's like i you can't you can't disagree with a fucking tyrant you know yeah well that's that's what we talk about too it's like oh you don't like instagram or youtube it's like okay your option is either do it or don't do it right what are you gonna do like go back to myspace right yeah no that's what it is man honestly it's like i i i used to stress out a lot about this
Starting point is 00:45:28 like when when the fucking pandemic was real and and all that stuff was going on like my family had a lot of issues and a whole bunch of stuff was crazy and i stressed out like a lot because i was taking care of my entire family like 10 10, 10 brothers and sisters and my mom, my dad, everybody. And like, while taking care of everyone, cause everyone else can't work, like watching my, my, my income gets smaller and smaller and smaller every week, every month. And so like, there are people out there that are truly affected by censorship. And like, not just uh you know like i hate on both sides on both sides there's this thing now where it's like cool to only talk political shit now and it's like like people's whole existence online became all about their side like they went from being like i make underwater basket weaving amazing
Starting point is 00:46:25 is crazy and it's like that's the only thing they've got now and i didn't want to become that guy but i also didn't want to i didn't want to bullshit and i didn't want to i'm a hard head and like i said nobody's been able to tell me what to do since i was like 15 so as soon as they were like you have to do all this you can't do this i was like oh i'm definitely gonna do that like i have like you you you just came into like my beautiful free country and told me i'm not allowed to do what i was like, what the constitution says that was given like born my, my, my God given born rights.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Like you can't, you can't say no to that. So I fucked up. I shouldn't have been silly about stuff, but you know, it is what it is. And at this point, like who knows,
Starting point is 00:47:20 maybe fucking Elon Musk is going to save us all. Our last, the last hope. Dude, we're all preying on a South African to save us right now. And it's like this South African fucking like evil genius type of character. Like that guy, like if Dr. Evil was like a real real person, he could totally be Elon Musk. And speaking of Elon Musk, did you put an order in for a Cybertruck? I did. I did.
Starting point is 00:47:54 I'm at the point now where I'm sick of waiting. I've got two of my family members now. They work at Tesla, which is an amazing company. And they can have actual rights and all that stuff. It's fucking, it's kind of like America three years ago. And, and so, um, I, I was able to get like a little bit of a family discount and all that stuff. So I was looking at stuff and I, I, I love the cyber truck. I think it's really cool.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Rhyme reminds me of, um, you guys ever seeolition Man with Wesley Snipes and Sylvester Stallone? Yeah. Yes, I have. It looks like it's straight out of that to me. And so to me, I'm all about it. But it's been taken forever and there's no real, like you can't get anyone to tell you anything real when you call or try to talk to anybody. So there's like no timeline or anything like that that you've been no real timeline you can read other people's opinions online and they're all over the place but like it doesn't mean nothing like nobody from tesla will tell you anything
Starting point is 00:48:55 specific and so i mean i'm looking at probably getting a new tundra i don't know i got my my little brother works at toyota now in tennessee and so i was thinking about you know just to support him snagging him but a tundra might i at least the truck i have now for tax purposes is it's um it's easier to write off a lease and so with the lease being up soon i think i'm i think i'm actually gonna buy a tundra i don't know if i'm gonna wait for a what do you guys think about the truck though like everybody's super one way or the other nobody's like hey you know i'm actually probably one of the few people that i am kind of in the middle on like i mean i yeah it's i i would love to see it in per i mean i'd love to actually see people get
Starting point is 00:49:38 it and see what it's like that's the hard thing with any product that's not out it's hard to be objective about it you know yeah we're definitely in a big pickup country here like everyone drives a pickup like they're everywhere that you see yeah but i think it looks cool yeah i mean i i don't have a problem with electric vehicles electric vehicles are really cool i i'd like to see more of them uh they're they're pretty rare that one you can you can get the the three engines on that one and have one you know charge up last you 600 miles which is which is one of the big draws for me like i love the automatic driver like that's one more thing now my girl's in charge of phone calls and everything else and the car's in charge of driving like it's fucking perfect yeah but um with uh with the car like um
Starting point is 00:50:25 oh yeah it the 600 miles and all that stuff and i talked to i talked to rogan about it as well as gonna say and he said the interior is actually made for someone over seven feet like you can reach over seven feet in the interior so yeah which is rare yeah yeah but yeah trucks are just new trucks are just so enormous in general like yeah but the crazy thing about all these electric vehicles is so many of them now you have like it's going to be the point pretty soon here where everyone can buy an electric vehicle that goes zero to 60 in like three seconds or less like everyone's driving like these road missiles around which is insane they are gnarly too like i i drove the tesla a little while ago and i i i i i i got it so i i like i said earlier i had a lot of
Starting point is 00:51:15 concussions from football i played a line forever and then like i i did a music video uh with a friend of mine named granger smith and it's called Holler if you ever want to look at it on YouTube it's a fun video really good song too it's my son's favorite song right now but um country music just just a heads up and so uh we were rednecking around on his property and I flipped uh a side by side a souped up side by side and cracked my head open. Like I didn't fit in it. So my head was sticking out already, you know, and, uh, I had another concussion and it took me like a day and a half before I could remember my son's birthday again. And so like that, that last one, I was like, you know what, um, I'm done with any kind of head trauma whatsoever. I'm not gonna, I'm done with any kind of head trauma whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:52:07 I'm not going to, you know, like I do a lot of fun shit. Like I was in Jamaica and jumped off a rock into the ocean that was like 130 feet up and shit like that. And I in one moment, I was like, all of that's done. You won't you won't catch me fucking around like like a wild kid anymore in any kind of way that can have some kind of head trauma so like if like i have a four-wheeler i take hunting and i putter along slow as fuck i wear a helmet all that shit like i've i i i'm already really worried about you know brain trauma and all that stuff and you see you know i don't I don't want to know who's that fucking guy from New England that shot that dude in the face and then buried the other people and all that shit and you know it was like Warren was it Warren Moon that killed himself and Junior Seau like
Starting point is 00:52:56 right yeah the mint the mental with all that stuff is it's it's fucked and we already live in a situation where like your mental game's being tested you know so for me all that craziness is done but when i drove i drove one of those a long time ago when i hit the gas like i fucking smacked my head against the back of the seat and i i couldn't i was astonished at how fast it was. Like it was astonishing. It was, it was known and everyone said this on all, everyone's heard a million times like, Oh, there's no rev up. There's like, but when you're sitting in the car and you put your foot on the gas pedal
Starting point is 00:53:37 and it's going 60 before you had a breath, it's like, Jesus. Yeah. It's a different, it's one thing to say say it but it's different to experience it right yeah so the guy who owned it started crying while i was driving he crawled up in his seat like was standing in his seat cut down like holding his knees to his chest and started crying and i drove through i think three blocks that was it like three blocks uh what what were your thoughts on the fight the boxing match i was i was disappointed obviously i was pulling for ed um i don't have any real beef with soar like you know i watched him grow and change and then he came back and now I feel like Thor's Thor's kind of collected himself and become like a real good man I feel that like I
Starting point is 00:54:33 feel like Thor right now is different than Thor was when 2017 happened you know when all that bullshit I feel like he's grown so much. And so like, I am not, I'm not a hater of Thor or anything. Like I, I, I don't know how he feels about me. Just being honest. I don't think he hates me. I don't know whether or not he likes me.
Starting point is 00:54:56 I think he, I don't know. I don't know. It's hard. It's hard to tell. But, um, to me,
Starting point is 00:55:03 I feel like he's a good man and I feel like he's grown a lot in the last what's that what's that five years in the last five years and and um like i wouldn't have any issue hanging out like and you know training or just shoot the shit with him i have no issue whatsoever but watching the fight you know i wanted ed to do well i wanted ed to win he's uh he's my boy and then um i was disappointed that it didn't go well but that's the thing about sport like thor was way better prepared like you look ed was in there cocked and ready to knock somebody out and thor was prepared to deflect that survive survive, and then push forward. Like it was, it was not an immaculate display.
Starting point is 00:55:50 It was a really good display from Thor on, on what actual like training and work can do versus like, like Eddie did cardio. Eddie worked, Eddie didn't not work. That's not what I'm saying. But Eddie worked on like the big punch, Eddie worked, Eddie didn't not work, that's not what I'm saying, but Eddie worked on the big punch. Thor worked on being a boxer and you could see the
Starting point is 00:56:13 difference. I think it's a good lesson for people out there watching that want to be athletes. That's the perfect fucking lesson. Yeah, you can train for two years and work your ass off on that punch, but if that punch doesn't fucking land,
Starting point is 00:56:33 then where are you? Or you could train for two years on the whole game and make sure your feet are light and your hands are light and you know how to use a combination. My right hand doesn't come down until it's ready to strike all that kind of stuff that you could see Thor had figured out I think that was I think that's good for young athletes and
Starting point is 00:56:55 I thought it was a good fight it was interesting I didn't I had hoped that they weren't going to gas out right because that that would have been the worst because two years of prep and then these big boys go out there and gas out and around i i would have been embarrassed and so um i was really happy to see them both last the whole fight to see them both pushing action the whole fight i think it was entertaining i think it was more entertaining than anyone would have imagined it would have been. What do you guys think? I think like your breakdown on the two guys individually,
Starting point is 00:57:32 that's pretty much exactly what we said. I mean, I think it shows, you know, boxing is really hard. It's its own sport. And like they both looked pretty good. And that's with like two good athletes. You know, like it's obvious Thor spent like two years like seriously training for boxing and um it still shows like that's a really hard sport he could train for 10 more and you know just keep getting better each year yeah there's no doubt that these guys are top tier athletes and you know they spent
Starting point is 00:58:01 two years and a lot of time and then you see these other guys that are on tv and how quick and easy they move and you're like wow like there are oh yeah for sure oh yeah just go watch canelo fight or something you know right or even even other levels like conor mcgregor was not a boxer like he's he's an mma fighter but when you see him fight floyd it was like, wow. Like, okay. Like you can tell this guy, there's little things in fighting that means so much like rotation of the hand, which way your toes pointing, which foot you step with, how many centimeters, like literal centimeters, are you comfortable with the glove missing your face by all these kind of things
Starting point is 00:58:46 that like man that's you know a lifetime it took floyd a lifetime to be who he is and for for the big boys to do what they did i feel like i don't i don't think there's any shame in it whatsoever for either of them right i felt like and that i did not think was going to happen. I was like, there is no way somebody is not being completely embarrassed right now. And I guess some people have been saying that Eddie was embarrassed because he was outclassed. But I guess if you went into it thinking like these guys should be professional boxers, then I guess you could say that. That shouldn't be the expectation, right? No, no. I think Eddie did and showed exactly
Starting point is 00:59:27 what he prepared for like he had that fucking that um who's that mean clever guy what's his fucking name there's this old boxer who used to do exactly what eddie was doing where he gives you like the side of the shoulder to aim at and he fucking keeps his right cock like like old timey style like that's that's something that um i can't remember the boxer but there's a boxer who used to do that not not too long ago like in the mid 90s late 90s and he was very successful at it so i think what we saw was eddie committed to his plan and that plan just wasn't the right plan and so to me i mean again of course i'm fucking biased as all shit like i i'm not there's no way anybody would take my opinion without like a pound to solve right right but from watching and from being like someone who's
Starting point is 01:00:20 grown up watching boxing and stuff and like i i I, I was super lucky as a kid. I got to hang out with George Foreman a couple of times and stuff. And like, I was obsessed with him and my, my last boxing match I ever watched, like for maybe 10 years was when Tyson bit Holyfield's ear off. And like my, my mom and dad were like,
Starting point is 01:00:43 we're done with this. Like we all stopped watching the fights at the house you know so but to me i i was i felt like i had a good eye for it or at least a decent eye for it and um they both they both worked hard and came out with their game plans and i think the right game plan was the one that was successful yeah i think that's right what uh talking about eddie what about the um world's strongest nation going on when is that and oh man i am gonna embarrass his ass like swords i'm gonna say so much shit i'll be like i'm gonna knock your ass out i'm gonna do my best to make them feel terrible in front of 20,000 people.
Starting point is 01:01:29 So is that in, uh, in the UK? It's in, um, I believe it's Liverpool as a double check, but it's the day after Thanksgiving. And, um, it's, uh, it's kind of like our grand Prix. So Eddie wanted to come back and do something, but you know, like with this, we do USA versus UK. We pick teams and we're going to do, Eddie and I will be going head to head. And I believe right now we have settled on two events. I don't know which events,
Starting point is 01:01:59 but I think we're going to do two events head to head. And then we would pick we haven't quite exactly uh devied all of it out yet so um what it's looking like is we will pick five or six uh people for our team and then we will go out there and you know send out a soldier to do the stones or send out something you know that kind of thing and so um so but eddie will most certainly be actually competing so like a lot of people are saying like he's not going to compete i guess he is he's going to compete and he's going to go head to head with me and um so i'm super excited it's the day after after Thanksgiving. And I think it's kind of weird spending Thanksgiving in the UK. Do they have turkeys there?
Starting point is 01:02:49 Do they observe the day? They pretend that that time existed. The first 1776 to 1876, right? That 100 years doesn't exist, bro. sick right like that that hundred years doesn't exist bro and that's that's it's it's it's a very 2022 thing to have like a revisionist history you know and so uh no they i don't think they have any kind of thanksgiving but um i'm not i'm not a big holiday guy anyways like i grew up my family was gypsies growing up and we're very poor and so like really the only holiday we ever celebrated was christmas and that was because my mom made my dad do it
Starting point is 01:03:32 and um you know like i don't i don't get hung up on days like uh right so like so what i do is kind of like i don't know it's kind of, but so say whatever's coming up, um, Christmas or Easter, even on my son's birthday, what I do is, uh, like a little bit before I make sure that I do something nice for them. So they know that this has nothing to do with your birthday. This is like a month before your birthday. Right. So like, I'll like I'll do something. And then I make sure like, yes, of course, on the day, you happy birthday song,
Starting point is 01:04:11 all the cheesy stuff. My kid's six. Like I'm not going to knock. Oh yeah. But then I make sure that like, like so say they get a present or something like that on the day. Like even on Christmas,
Starting point is 01:04:22 I try and do like just like one thing instead of this pile of stuff and then you know like the next day we go for an adventure or we go do something or or whatever like my kid his favorite thing to do now is we have this this hill of snow in idaho where it's just like um they keep it packed icy and you just, you take a little escalator up the hill and then slide down on an inner tube. And we will do that for, I think we did it for like six and a half hours. And it's like, like he's excited sprinting up the hill every time.
Starting point is 01:04:59 So I, I, I want him and I want like, I mean, I hope I have more children, but the people that I care about in my life, I feel like, like I have a nice opportunity to show them that like those days there. It's kind of a farce. Like if, if I love my son, how come I don't treat him like he's special on other days?
Starting point is 01:05:20 And just like, like fucking February 14th is what it's called. Valentine's day like that's a literal invented holiday just to get fucking money every i was gonna say everything is commercial like it all is commercialized 100 like no doubt about it i don't want to be like you guys ever watch science oh yeah yep i don't i don't want to be like you know the celebrating festivus but i'm but i'm i'm keep it in perspective yeah i'm trying to i'm trying to make change the norm for the people that i care about and kind of get them to see on their own like what's important about those days and what's not you know like, Christmas has made brats out of so many kids.
Starting point is 01:06:07 And, and it did to me too. Like I remember as a kid, like we had no holidays and then Christmas, like our house would be full of presents. And I remember opening up presents and like throwing them to the side and being like, what else? It's like, that's, that's a shit kid. Like you want that kid to appreciate what they have and, and not,
Starting point is 01:06:27 and not just see this as like the day I get all the things because I'm special, but you weren't special on December 23rd. Like, so, you know, that's, I know it's,
Starting point is 01:06:39 it's weird. A lot, a lot of the stuff I do and like the way I think a lot of people feel is very weird. And so like, if, if somebody's listening to this, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:06:48 that's fucking stupid. You're probably right. Like, don't, don't change your Christmas plans because I'm fucking weird. And I'm like, just, just let me be weird.
Starting point is 01:06:57 And you keep celebrating Christmas. Nobody, nobody listened to me. There's not a PSA. It's just what you do. this is what i do i'm just talking about me you know yeah why um it seems like strongest man in history we had nick best on a while back too and we talked with him about it and um like ratings wise it sounded like it went pretty well damn well we're the number four show. Right. So why isn't there another season of that?
Starting point is 01:07:28 I can talk about it a little more now because Discovery Channel bought everything. So I don't even know if that's public, but I don't owe shit to Discovery Channel, so I can say it. So they own everything, like everything you've ever heard of, HBO, Showtime, MTV, Comedy Central, Cartoon Network.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Everything on TV is now owned by Discovery. Discovery is trying to push people into their subscription system, Discovery Plus, which is actually a decent setup. I like Discovery. I've worked with them in a couple situations and stuff i i'm very happy that they're taking over stuff but um so when that happened now i'm allowed to talk a little bit more about what happened with the history channel a and e used to own the history channel
Starting point is 01:08:18 we had a couple situations where people this is the part where i have to be vague certain people rub people the wrong way and and it wasn't like he was anyone was trying to do anything wrong it's just we are who we are and that's why people like us that's why people don't like us that's why whatever we have and don't have is based off of who we are so you you don't give someone a show and then tell them not to be who they've been their whole life like there's a reason you came and got me nick brian and ed right like you you wanted nick to cry and be old trying to be big and ugly, Ed to be stinky, and me to be beautiful. Like, obviously.
Starting point is 01:09:08 I mean, you know what I mean? So like, and so with the, with the, at the end of filming season one, there was all these promotions and all these things we were doing because season two was going to be huge. And I think we just had a mishap with the wrong person and the wrong person saw the wrong thing and all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:09:32 You know, like we can be pretty vulgar, us guys. Like I know people think guys are vulgar, but we kind of take it to another level. We had a guy in Scotland quit. Like, I don't know if we get in trouble for saying this, but we had a guy in Scotland quit. Like he was our driver.
Starting point is 01:09:53 He spent one trip with us driving into town where it was like 30 minutes in 30 minutes back or whatever. And we said so much horrible shit that he got back to the hotel. He left the keys in the car, got up out of his car and said, I can't do this. And just walked off. Left. Yeah. We say some horrible shit.
Starting point is 01:10:14 And then, of course, like when you're with your brothers like that, like we're brothers and we travel and, and like, you know, you have a bond with someone, especially when you've flown overseas, got stuck on a shitty train and had to sit there sweating for another 10 hours. Like there's a bond that, that you grow. And we were extremely comfortable with each other. And then on top of that, we're competitive. So like, if I say something gross, Eddie's going to say something grosser and then Brian's going to tell us all to stop. And we're going to make it way worse because Brian said stop, you know? So, like, we had a thing where it was building into sooner or later someone wasn't going to be happy. But I think with that, like, it wasn't – honestly, too, I wish I could say what it was because it was like nothing.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Literally, like a stupid little joke. Like, if you saw that video, that clip of me spitting on Nick, that orange juice. Yeah, yeah. It was nothing compared to that. Like, that's literally, I spit on him and then stood there and talked shit to him about me spitting on him. Like, I felt, after that, i thought it was so funny at the time but after that i felt so shitty like i hit up nick and i was like bro i'm so sorry man like i thought it was funny and he's like no it was it was funny and i was like no it wasn't like that was i feel
Starting point is 01:11:36 like such a tool bag like you know but um we did though we we discussed some stuff and we now actually have full rights to our stuff and um i spoke with brian and ed and uh actually yeah i spoke with nick too and so it seems like everyone kind of wants me to write it out like i i'm the writer of the group i don't know if you guys know like i write for a couple different magazines and then I, I write a lot of other shit for other people all the time. And, um, so I'm, I'm writing out like outlines for episodes and then putting stuff together. And I'm trying to, I'm trying to keep it authentic to what it was, but also like now that the cuffs are off i want to i want to lean a little bit more into who we are you know so we'll see i'm excited hopefully we'll get to start filming it this year cool so then would that be like would that be a youtube thing or would it actually get
Starting point is 01:12:38 on on a network that's the discussion that's the discussion. So we have, I think it's two networks. We have two, it might be three. We have two networks, I think, that are interested. But the thing is, is like working with a network means not only do we take a pay cut, but we now have overlords and like like all this different stuff and so like man i wish some of the deleted scenes from some of this stuff man i i truly wish we would have just filmed ourselves because it would have been huge huge like i don't know how much the they showed about like when we were in wyoming and me and ed had the same hotel room type of thing and all that like but there was probably a good 20 30 minutes of footage that never got
Starting point is 01:13:34 released and just like using that for just clips for instagram or youtube or anything i'm telling you that that would have changed so much as it was so fucking absurdly hilarious and did you guys get to see any of that I don't know if I remember that I mean it's been a little while because I watched it while it all came out so it's been a little while now but I don't really remember much
Starting point is 01:13:58 of that I don't either yeah I think they cut the whole thing out like Ed and I got stuck in the same room and like Ed was in there taking a shower and i went in and took a shit while he was showering and like you know like steamed him out yeah yeah like like there's scenes of me sitting on the toilet arguing with him with his head out the shower and and then like you know i'd i'd sleep in naked with a c-pap on like all kinds of stuff and and so there was,
Starting point is 01:14:25 there was just so much stuff. And that was just one instance. It seemed like every day we would come up with stuff, especially me and Ed, me and Ed were very much pushing the envelope the whole time. And so we would come up with something and they would just be like, Oh no, we checked back with headquarters and that's not going to go.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Yeah. All the same shit you hear like people who have no added value whatsoever to the team will just show up criticize something you've done and then leave as if that's their like that's their addition to the show like put their name on the fucking credits. It's like you don't know comedy. You have nothing to do with anything. You work at a desk in LA and you've got fucking... Anyways, I almost went too far. Talking about TV too, you were in a fuck that's delicious episode, right? Yep.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Action Bronson. My boy action. I think, I think we did too. Um, when we, him and I were filming, we had so much fun. The first time we met, like it was, he was like, no, you're, you're staying here. You're staying in LA. We're hanging out. So like, I ended up hanging for like a week after and all that shit.
Starting point is 01:15:47 I think it was like five days, but it was still like in the middle of a busy schedule. I've got worlds coming up and I was like, fuck it. I'm going to be smoking weed with Action Bronson for a while. Pedicures and shit. Yeah. And so did you know him before that? Like how did that connection happen? So I did the 20,000 calorie video that was with munchies,
Starting point is 01:16:08 munchies owns whatever. Like it's all through vice, isn't it? Is that? Yes. So vice, that's the way. So vice owns munchies,
Starting point is 01:16:16 munchies used to own that. Fuck. That's delicious. I don't know if they still do if it works for someone else. No, but, um, you know,
Starting point is 01:16:23 so it was healthy to that. And that and um i was working a lot out of la at the time because i was living i think i was living at fresno and um that's when i was getting a ton of commercial work so like you know my agent would call me in fresno and he'd be like you come down to do a subway commercial film for a day, get fucking crazy, absurd check and then go back home. It was, it was, it was the shit.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Like I ended up in one year, I got like six commercials and then it all dried up. Like, I don't think, I think what happens is like the commercial spectrum spins. And, uh, so like there's this person who they're like,
Starting point is 01:17:03 Oh, you're perfect for this demographic and then by the time the the disc spins all the way back around they're like no no no this demographic will hate you so you're not perfect for any demographic so i think that's kind of what happened with me like like they're everyone saw me as perfect for males age 20 to 34 which is that's my fucking spot. Like that's nobody else gives a fuck about what I do besides do. Literally.
Starting point is 01:17:31 Right. I mean, you go through my DMS, it's like 75,000 dudes and then one girl. And then that girl is a dude pretending to be a girl. Right. So, but, you know, that's the way that was then about back and
Starting point is 01:17:48 forth to la those were the true hustle times man like no no money driving three hours trying to hustle trying to like get auditions while training and then you know young baby all that stuff and so um getting those commercials kind of kept me afloat for a while. And then luckily, luckily other things picked up. Because like I said earlier, man, strong men, strong men don't get paid shit for lifting weights, man. Right. Well, and then so what you were talking about, and I know actions kind of is a fan of strong man. So do you think he was aware of like, was he personally aware of your munchies thing and then
Starting point is 01:18:25 he kind of picked up on it through there how did the how did yeah i think that's where it happened actually because he is a big fan of strongman and if you've seen those videos where he's wearing world's strongest man shirts yeah i'm the one who hooked him up with that shit yeah that's cool well he hit me up and i hit up worlds and they were like yeah we'll send him some because obviously he's actually bronson right but but he's a good dude too, man. He's super into strong man. He was a power lifter before he was a rapper and before he was a chef, he was into power lifting.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Yeah. I thought I'd heard some stories about him talking about lifting, lifting at the gym and everything back in the day. But he's a, he's gone through quite a bit of a transformation the last year or so too. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:04 Tons of weight loss and everything man so i i don't it looks like 100 150 pounds at least oh that's i couldn't believe you just get used to seeing him now and when i went back and watched that video before the show it's almost like damn he used to look like that like he has a lot yeah yeah that was a feat of strength when i picked him up and spun him around the middle of the yeah yeah no kidding it was it was hard as shit if you could only pick one you can't be both you could only be one would you rather be strong or easy answer that no fucking doubt okay no doubt bro so let's let's just who do you guys
Starting point is 01:19:48 okay if you say anybody besides two names i'm gonna fucking fight you there's two names you're allowed to say in this big z or brian who's the strongest man who's ever lived to you guys that is a hard case between those that is a really hard one for me too yeah but that's that's that's that's a good debate and those two both of them have i agree to me i agree it's one of those two i would say that for sure and i i don't know i get a lot of people don't know that brian got first place at world's strongest man five times well a lot of people came to that count back and what wasn't in the rule right until the following year right um but again that's nothing to do with z no i know that's that's more talking to shit
Starting point is 01:20:39 about the rule fallout not not z like right i have nothing negative to say about z one of the kindest most genuine people also he's at least number two in the greatest of all time at the very bottom and and and i have no no qualms with someone saying he's number one i have no qualms with that either i really have a hard time picking though like i'm trying to think if i could justify one and over the other and like the tiebreaker to me is if i try to think about okay like they both have these like very long i was gonna say longevity it's hard to make a longevity argument right and like they both have the titles and then i wonder like they both have these great rivalries right he came out and started fighting puchinowski right right and then started fighting other people and then brian came out fighting z and then fighting thor and like
Starting point is 01:21:25 yeah it's just and they both have amazing careers and i'm glad that at least we can agree that those are the top two and then i try to think about like okay like who in their best year like if you took both of them in their best year ever like their strongest ever who wins in like an average you know in your usual i think we saw that and they went back and forth right right and so i the craziest strong man world's strongest man podium there's one year where it's marius z and brian are are all on the podium together and that's just a crazy like it's crazy to me that that that was a thing like that so if you watch the credits after that on the youtube video it tells you that marius title was stripped for testing positive
Starting point is 01:22:12 and then then when you dig a little bit you find out that it wasn't like steroids wasn't it cocaine like it was he didn't even test positive for cocaine. He came walking out of the bathroom with two strippers and coke all over him. That's what it was. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Man, that's performance enhancing in a way, baby. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:35 Fuck, when you're fucking strippers, of course coke's performance enhancing. Very anabolic. Yeah. I don't know if it helps you lift in weight, but it does help with the strippers. What's your answer to the question, though? Is that Brian? Oh, I'm so biased. It doesn't fucking matter.
Starting point is 01:22:50 I'm so biased. I just want to have people agree that the top two are the top two. I don't want any more arguments about fucking, this guy showed up and did good one year. And it's like, okay, these guys have been doing it for 20 like what the fuck are you talking about well and i don't put marius puginowski in the category either because i mean if we're talking about the strongest people of all time like i guess it's just the competition was a little bit different to me then yeah and he would get wrecked right
Starting point is 01:23:21 because back when marius was winning they had um uh not fortisimus they had if so right right and so like where c was over there and everything yeah the and all the other guys that were really big and strong were all at if so and so like to me marius is a great strong man and fucking like obviously did a lot for the sport people recognize him you know probably as much or more than anybody else ever so i don't have any like i don't dislike him or have anything bad but like like you said you got to look at the numbers in the competition it's like if marius could barely press 300 or like i I think they topped out at two 60 or something that year. Right.
Starting point is 01:24:07 And it's like, it's like Z Z had world record after world record, after world record, after world record in the overhead, him and Brian both had deadlift world records like crazy. So like there's no arguing when you look at numbers and you look like when you look at the numbers, it makes you think there's a 20 year gap gap they were all on the podium together yeah it was just wild
Starting point is 01:24:30 it's not a 20-year fucking gap no right that is that is the wild part okay we've got this special game we play with every guest called overrated underrated and we got a special uh ob set of topics that we handpicked for you and it's just your job to decide if each one's overrated or underrated. We know that you're probably not short of opinions, so it probably won't be too hard for you. Before everyone gets mad at me, before everyone gets mad at me right now, if you're thinking about testosterone replacement therapy,
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Starting point is 01:25:31 i'm not being silly okay well that's yes before people tune out at your after your opinions good good idea yeah right okay overrated or underrated? Hagrid from Harry Potter. Oh, underrated. I'm sure people would expect me to say the other because people talk about how me and Hagrid are so similar and stuff, but I fucking love Hagrid.
Starting point is 01:25:57 And I think, like, I take it as a compliment because I know people are making fun of the way I look, but I choose to see it as they're saying I'm a sweet, protective big well and hagrid was big too i don't know how tall he was but and yeah i think uh i think his wasn't his brother like a giant or something too or like half brother or something his brother he's half giant and his um his brother is a giant yeah yeah yeah well being half giant is my favorite character yeah in the movies you know yeah nobody would dislike him like i think everyone likes him right but but that's not what they're saying
Starting point is 01:26:31 when they call me hagrid but i just choose to see it as that okay speaking of big hairy guys overrated or underrated eddie hall. It depends what you're talking about. You're talking about as a human being, obviously he's overrated. It all depends on what and where. How about the 501 deadlift? Overrated or underrated? You're saying the 501 deadlift? Overrated or underrated? So you're saying the 501 deadlift?
Starting point is 01:27:08 You're saying Thor's deadlift? I'm asking you guys. Well, I think it's overrated. I'm not necessarily saying that... No explanation. It doesn't mean anything. I'm not saying it doesn't mean anything. No, of course.
Starting point is 01:27:23 Right, right. But I think overall, it was a little over I think the whole, yeah, of course. Right. But I think, uh, overall it was a little overrated the whole thing, you know, the whole thing for like this one lift and like, that's what strong man kind of, you know, I know that there is,
Starting point is 01:27:32 that's that at the same time that some of that stuff helps push strong man and make it more popular too. So that's a good part of it. Um, yeah, I don't know. Yeah. I feel like it was the same.
Starting point is 01:27:43 I feel the same. It's just, um, you know, with, uh just looking back at it though I think it was all a setup like I think Eddie was happy he pulled it so he could call him out they had that thing going so fast
Starting point is 01:27:58 it felt like it was loaded and ready to go that's how I see it so overrated or underrated in this we have to ask you this one um all of our fans like when we that we told them we're having you on everyone knows we play this overrated underrated game oh no yeah and this is the first one that everyone says of course overrated or underrated deadliftsifts. Deadlifts, yep. Well, it depends. It all depends.
Starting point is 01:28:26 If you're just saying the word deadlifts and I have to answer to just that, then I will easily answer overrated. But if you're saying, like, to a strength competitor, then I'd say underrated. Or if you're saying to strength competitors or athletes, too, but, but like a non-strengths athlete then i would say extremely overrated you know so like it all depends on the setting it was i knew that was going to come up it comes up no matter who i talked to and it's been fucking years and then
Starting point is 01:28:59 i said the most mundane non-argue like you you can't argue against what I said. Like it's fact. And basically after it happened, I went to everyone I knew. So like I spoke to almost every strength coach in the NFL. I believe there was 44 or something at the time when I started talking to him and I talked to 38. And then I started talking to people I know in ML they're like, no, we don't do deadlifts because the risk reward ratio is not good for athletes. And they're like, why the fuck are you asking this? This is like old information from 1985. Everyone else in the world lost their fucking mind. Like I was saying, deadlifts are bad.
Starting point is 01:30:02 But that's just, that's the climate like people see a headline and they lose their fucking shit and it's like no i said i still do deadlifts i said they're good for people who are going to compete like and i said if you want to do them and they're fun you should fucking do them i said all of that the only thing i said that people don't like is that the risk reward ratio is bad and and that's just because they're fucking baby feelings that has nothing to do with anything factual because that is the truth and that comes from that's that's i i think there was one so a buddy of mine uh he's like a four-time pro bowler played in atlanta played in uh tennessee with
Starting point is 01:30:47 nashville um fuck anyways nfl player the highest paid offensive line of offensive guard of all time in the nfl grew up he lived with my cousins i'm very close with him still to this day i talk to him all the time hit him up and i was talking to him and i was like you know everybody's saying that they've never once deadlifted he played at oregon state and then got drafted by the falcons and he told me that uh year two or three that a coach came in and wanted them to deadlift. And he was there for three weeks before he was fired. And so it was like two guys got hurt. It's not like they got hurt. He said that he wanted them to go to 80% at week three or something.
Starting point is 01:31:38 And, bro, when you're working with offensive linemen, they're stronger than their body is prepared for holding that posterior chain. You can't go to maximal deadlifts that quick at all. Anybody, that's just a fucking blanket statement. And then jumping into somebody with somebody who's strong and making $36 million every fucking time they fart in the locker room it's like you don't fuck with that shit you don't yeah and like you're supposed to do hand cleans and power cleans and all of this came from i took a trip to my old town and my old
Starting point is 01:32:21 my old high school town and i went and i talked to the team and I did a couple things. And this was literally on the way down to the Rogan show. So like, because I went to high school they were deadlift testing the week of a game they deadlift tested two weeks before that and then they were gonna deadlift test two weeks after that in the middle of the fucking season and i lost my mind i i was like are you purposefully trying to hurt these fucking kids? There's no room for that. And we live in this time where everyone acts like they can say all this stupid shit and it's super motivational to say no days off. Or you'll give a fuck if your elbow hurts. Or you'll give a fuck if your elbow hurts. It's like, you don't understand.
Starting point is 01:33:28 People fucking listen to you. People go out there and they work with 13 and 14 year old boys and girls who have the whole world ahead of them. And they fuck them up because you're fucking stupid and telling other people online that it's good to do this. online that it's good to do this and out of all of this i had two two people whose opinion i would even give a fuck about say well they didn't say well one okay sorry i had one person whose opinion matters talk shit to other people and then cower when i brought it up to them and and this i'm not i'm not gonna say who it is because, I think they're a good person. Then I had an old guy who was, I think he was like 43 at the time who had already had three or four hip surgeries. And he was a okay lifter back in the day, but now other people say his name a lot. So they pretend that he's cool and stronger than he was. That asshole said something to my face. And I told him that he couldn't do my fucking warm-ups in his prime,
Starting point is 01:34:28 and he had nothing else to say. So, like, that was the only backlash I had physically gotten. But the internet backlash of all these fucking losers who don't even really lift heavy, telling other people to lift heavy, like, that shit surprised me and to this day it's still that obviously i've been going off now for like 10 minutes like yelling at my fucking phone all i wanted to do was help keep young athletes safe so they can develop themselves
Starting point is 01:34:57 properly that's literally the only thing i wanted out of that yeah i mean it surprises me that it's that controversial of a point like i don't personally think it is but i guess when you're talking to a crowd where a lot of people like tie their identity to squatting benching and deadlifting that that makes them second guess who they are so maybe that's why it hurts so much right it's a it's a personal thing and to them it's a personal attack but like to me i i thought i was in a position where I could say whatever the fuck I want about working out. And people would be like, okay, like, there's at least some validity to what he's saying, right? Like, this guy works out for a living, so maybe, like, there's a grain of truth in there. That's a good barometer for our climate, you know?
Starting point is 01:35:46 that's that's a good barometer for our climate you know it's like if you disagree with someone then it doesn't matter like what they're saying if it has a point or anything like water is not wet if i don't want it to be wet so just so you know before we put the episode out we're going to cut out all of that justification and all people are going to hear is that you said deadlifts are overrated good good good and then on the thumbnail do it it's like it'll be a big x over a giant bag of dicks you with a speech bubble above your head like i ate and then i i went into clarifying too i was like and this is only eight inch front bar deadlift like if you're lifting elevated the risk is extremely mitigated if you're lifting side handle the risk is almost nothing like there's only one specific
Starting point is 01:36:33 thing that's risky and that's all i'm saying like you just just use a fucking side handle not a big deal okay last uh overrated underrated topic maybe the most important one overrated or underrated mickey avalon do you know my history with mickey avalon not really we just we just uh how the fuck why how did you come up with that name i ain't gotta know this before i answer and i will be honest to a fault how did you come up with that name? We just, uh, through research,
Starting point is 01:37:08 we do quite a bit of research before we have, I was going to say, I might have mentioned like in passing once or twice that some crazy shit happened with Mickey Avalon. Yeah. I think he's underrated. Somebody be able to perform on as much drugs as that motherfucker's on. Like, that dude should be champion of our society.
Starting point is 01:37:29 I was a huge Mickey Avalon fan back in, like, 2007, 2008, when he was first coming around. Man, he was pumping out some bangers then. Yeah, that's when I did security for him. And he was, like, a super nice guy. Fuck, man. I don't know what I can get sued for and what I can't get sued for. And he was like a super nice. Fuck. And I don't know what I can get sued for and what I can't get sued for. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:37:51 So I know this guy. His name is Dickie Mabalon. And he's a cool guy, like super sweet. It seemed like he was being controlled with drugs this this guy that i'd known and um allegedly let me just cover every fucking angle i ain't trying to go to fucking court um you know and even though this guy that i'd known was like, you could look in his eyes and see like, like a soul, like a sweet person. And that person was led around just in a way that just made me extremely uncomfortable. And look, you know, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:38:42 I'm, I'm, I'm, I i'm uh i'm gonna leave it at that i felt like i felt very much like heartbroken over it though like i was i was fat i felt bad and i feel like if this guy was a singer and maybe he had a couple bangers they would have been really fun to listen to in the club especially like you know if it was about like an old-timey type of woman or something but it's all that being said i mean it's a legend anyway so who knows i don't know if i covered myself or not i don't know if i was just super confusing or if i was safe or if like they're like no that was completely illegal and stupid. So the short of it, though, Mickey is underrated, you said?
Starting point is 01:39:30 Well, nowadays, I don't fucking know. Has he been putting anything out? I think he's had a few things maybe in the last couple of years, but it hasn't been at the same level as that earlier stuff. Yeah. Well, then, it's all context then. It's all like, if you're talking about his old stuff, I fucking loved it. And I would say underrated back in the day, even though he was huge, because he had some stuff. go to a small show because like they're not hiding and they're not pretending and there's not 40 000 people that are distracting them all that stuff so the venue i worked at we would only allow like 400 people in there and i think the max capacity was 200 but i didn't know the place
Starting point is 01:40:18 so i can't get sued but uh so like you know at that those spots it's very intimate and you know like i mean like willie nelson and i were on a first name basis he's guaranteed forgotten about me by now but but back in the day like like bb king and all these fucking great characters i knew them intimately like like it was it was really cool and so with him i, I felt like, I don't know, man, as cheesy as it sounds, I felt kind of like I wanted to try and do something for him, even though he was, like, he was the guy, like, big when I was working with him. And there was just no escape for him. And what's cool is's cool is now he seems
Starting point is 01:41:05 sobered up. I think that person that I was worried about with him, I don't think they're around no more. I think it's better. I don't fucking know. Underrated. You didn't read the line. You can't read it, so we got an answer.
Starting point is 01:41:23 Great news. It looks like you passed overrated got an answer. Great news. It looks like you passed overrated, underrated. Great job. No, that's great. I'm so stoked that we got to get you on. This was awesome. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:41:38 It's been literally years of going back and forth and stuff. You guys have been great trying to make it work and even though i'm you know in the middle of a hotel and stuff it was easy fun awesome and then what's the uh you said you do the trt and everything else what's the website again manna yeah i mean people are following they can look at my links or whatever nobody the thing is is at the end of this nobody's gonna listen to all this shit, right? So I could say, you know, cock and balls.
Starting point is 01:42:07 It doesn't mean nothing. But hey, now they're going to listen because I said cock and balls. So this is what we'll do. We'll say cock and balls, manahpc.com, cock and balls. And really, just check out the podcast, Cock and Balls, Mad Ramblings. Yep. And, you know, enjoy. But now the podcast is all mine.
Starting point is 01:42:31 And so I don't have anybody censoring me. But I also like last, my last episode I put out, I went off and was like, fuck, I went way too far. So like I tried to edit what I said and ended up making a loop of what I said. And so I repeated it twice in the episode, like a minute and a half ramble of me saying shit I shouldn't say. And then I was like, fuck it. I just deleted the episode. It was up for like 40 minutes. And so like, I think like, uh, close to a couple thousand people have listened to it.
Starting point is 01:43:04 And I was like like oh fuck but you know i little things like that they won't keep happening and i i'm i'm in control of it so they'll be coming out all the time so yeah cock and balls um mad ramblings cock and balls yeah at least we kept them in there with the cock and balls you know that's right that's right did you guys ever listen to adam sandler's album when you were a kid oh i loved it go play with your cock and balls we've talked about that multiple times on the podcast before dude nobody knows about that shit but that's what's your favorite uh skit or track off of that you know what do you got uh i like the cock and balls the piece of shit car was just a banger that's kind of an all-time classic fuck i always like like toll booth willie um and then uh fatty mcgee was pretty funny i thought that that was pretty we'd
Starting point is 01:43:58 uh call some people fat you know some of our friends we call them fatty mcgee always oh everybody says that but nobody knows where it comes from i think i think his best though was lunch lady yeah lunch ladies especially when he did the the skit with chris like that was fucking huge yeah lunch lady land yeah that's when saturday night live was at best, for sure. For sure. I believe that was its bestest, too. A lot of people argue that Will Ferrell was better, and I'm like, hmm. I think Chris Farley and Adam Sandler and Chris Rock. I think that's when it was at its best, if you ask me.
Starting point is 01:44:39 I mean, Will Ferrell has some really good stuff, of course, too. Yeah, really good stuff. I mean, if you compare Will Ferrell's time to now, it's like it's a fucking light years difference. Yeah. Yeah. Mike Myers was in there, too. That, too.
Starting point is 01:44:54 Mike Myers had. And Mike was so good. People don't realize, like, when he would do, like, the old Scottish lady or, like, the blind old man and all that shit like i would fucking die that was so good and he had dana carvey with a lot of him like those guys both had a lot going on too yep dana carvey would crush you know um they came out with a podcast and they only did a couple episodes and they stopped but it was dana carvey and david spade talking to all their favorite Saturday
Starting point is 01:45:25 night live guests. So they did like John Lovitz. They did Chris rock. They did Tom Hanks. And it was super interesting listening, like especially John Lovitz, like listening. I could listen to him talk all day.
Starting point is 01:45:38 He's the fucking best. He's so hilarious and so unique. So, but yeah, if you ever listen to that i don't know what it's called it's david spade and uh dan carvey okay all right cool i will check that out yeah awesome well big obi thanks for coming on this is good stuff people will be excited for having me guys and i'll have you guys on mad rambling soon anytime you line it up we're all for it we'll do it all right boys all right thanks a lot cock and balls
Starting point is 01:46:07 we gave him an extra cool beans for all the cock and balls yeah for all the cock and balls yeah that was really good that was good that was fun yeah well worth the wait definitely worth it and you know whether you like to deadlift or don't like to deadlift i think what you need to use whether you're deadlifting or something we can all agree yeah is that the plates that you use are the strength coat plates um they're made in america uh grant brogy started the company here during an iron shortage recently here in 2022. And really this company that he came up with just because of an iron shortage has really grown some legs, I would say. It's really taken off.
Starting point is 01:46:56 And the Strength Co. plates have not only become the go-to plates of Mastanomics Gym, they've become the go-to plates of the Mastanomics Discord community. They've become the go-to plates of the massonomics discord community they've become the go-to plates of instagram also almost i would call it even say the go-to plates of people on youtube that are in the know as well they're the go-to plates of the arnold sports festival this year um people are just going to them everywhere accolades are endless on these things yeah so check them out the strength co plates. plates. We love them. We've got our collection of them keeps growing when it comes to aesthetics and precision and durability and just all around cool factor.
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Starting point is 01:47:45 Love their plates. Oh, boy. What was the one thing I was... I'm just... There was something... Oh, I was going to talk about... There's a Mastinomics wiki. It's on Fandom.
Starting point is 01:47:58 Oh, yeah. I haven't actually... That some of the guys have been working on. This is a very recent development. Actually, it kind of existed, but not really. But now it's picking up more steam. Yeah, they it kind of it existed but yeah but now it's kind of picking up more steam yeah they're kind of contributing more to it and i think somebody been working on the wiki actual wikipedia angle of it and it hasn't gotten there yet so they're
Starting point is 01:48:13 going with a fandom wiki of mass dynamics right now and like working on a few things like uh one of the ones they're working on the other day is compiling the full what's in the can list. So every episode, what can we had, what we rated it, and what my guess of it was, and like a full listing. And then there's just some like- That's got to be an extensive file of that. But if you want to get involved in,
Starting point is 01:48:37 there's other history- Which I'm sure that's what everyone wants to do is get involved. You can add it to your deed profile that you are a contributing editor on the Masonomics fandom wiki if you do want to get involved the best way
Starting point is 01:48:49 you wouldn't have to be on the discord community but it would make most sense to be on the discord because that's where everyone's talking it makes communication much easier
Starting point is 01:48:53 there's a channel set up just for it right there's a channel just for the Masonomics wiki where you could get involved in and you could have some input over what actually
Starting point is 01:49:02 shows up in there because there could be a lot of goofy stuff in there and you could you could have your hand in it that way. You could be a part of Masonomics history. Yes, you could be a part. Was there anything else that we had to talk? We talked about the drop coming on Thursday.
Starting point is 01:49:16 Do not miss out on that. Yeah, I'm, again, very excited for that. Looking at the list here. I don't know. Do you have some podcast reviews for us, Tanner? Yeah, I did have a couple podcast reviews. I'm glad you asked that. It's been so long since I've got to hear any. Yeah, we haven't read any for a while.
Starting point is 01:49:34 Kind of missing out. A great reminder to go ahead and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts. Hit us up with five stars so we can get closer to that 500 review mark. And also hit that five star button on Spotify while you're at it. Yeah, get us closer to that 500 review mark. And also hit that five-star button on Spotify while you're at it. Yeah, get us closer to that 300 mark. Okay, first review is from The Spartan Fireman. Do it. While it might be Aberdeen Magazine's fifth best podcast from Aberdeen,
Starting point is 01:49:56 it's the number one lifting podcast. Didn't even make five. No, no, that's true. It's the number one lifting podcast with five JD Powers in their trophy case. From Fun Beverage, trivia, Texas power bar history, true it's the number one lifting podcast with five JD powers in their trophy case from fun beverage trivia Texas power bar history and tips on how to get strong stay strong and use your strength it should already be in your playlist
Starting point is 01:50:11 but if not add it now next one is from big steve the pod my wife loves to hate five stars I love that my wife my wife I love that my wife hates how loud that I listen to this pod. Next one is from Coke.
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Starting point is 01:51:07 then crap open a piping hot LaCroix, tighten your weightlifting belt, and blast this podcast to some heavy Jefferson deadlifts. Just don't buy their hats. They're sensitive about that. Oh, this guy gets it. Yeah. I think everyone, all four today mentioned get strong,
Starting point is 01:51:22 stay strong, use your strength. Yeah, so it's a lifestyle. That is. Did we, I'm trying to remember, did Dan's, his latest meet, Dan Bell's latest meet? I don't think we talked about that. I don't think we did either. No, he did have a meet here. Actually, supporting our supporting member segment, Dan Bell.
Starting point is 01:51:43 Pull that up. We can't leave out supporting members. Yeah, just assuming it's on open powerlifting already. It probably is. I shouldn't have to scroll down very far to find Dan on the list. I don't think you have to use too many filters to get Dan pretty high on the open powerlifting list,
Starting point is 01:51:59 do you? Although, why didn't it come up right away? I believe it was in Iowa, correct that's what afro man said or was that south dakota now that's a tune isn't it it's a banger okay now i found out it so it's not in here okay because most recent is the ghost clash so i cannot report exactly how he did i thought it was like 24 70 something 24 50 it was right in there yeah but is that actually his last meet then like is is he doing another one i don't know i don't know what he's quite yeah i couldn't quite take away from uh his instagram post yeah to to be determined. Maybe we'll have to have a special call
Starting point is 01:52:46 just for him to give us an update. Yeah, I felt like he was kind of hinting at, like, maybe that was it, but then also it wasn't like a firm, like, this is it. Right. Maybe my reading comprehension skills are really low, too. I'm not positive what his long-term plan is there. He's kind of hinted towards that a little bit,
Starting point is 01:53:03 but I don't know what uh what's next exactly keeping the people guessing yeah but supporting our supporting members though yeah dan bell had me another one where he totals he totaled a whole bunch he lifted a lot lifted all the weights do we dance stuff do we have uh a couple more uh, I thought you'd never ask, Tanner. We do. And I'm going to start this by asking you another question. I'm going to answer your question with a question. That question is, do you know what's in your supplements?
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Starting point is 01:56:18 I was busy working on some used equipment deals locally. Well, that's one of the few allowable excuses. If anyone's watching and you might have seen me looking at my phone the whole time that's why i was checking some prices wheeling and dealing over here yeah trying to get the best really going through the classified sections so hopefully so if i have something new purchased we can talk about it on next week's episode it's all for the it's all for the podcast yes otherwise from what i heard though great ad it was it was a great ad and my reading
Starting point is 01:56:45 of it i say so myself as good as you've ever done it was right up there with some of my best performances ever no stumbling or stumbling it was it was really solid that's good i'll catch it on when i listen to this full uh two hour episode yeah kind of curious how we're gonna get the dog up here and not have he seems to be kind of tangled in the cords and I'm kind of like, okay, he's tangled in a cord. There's like a lot of gear right here and he makes one move like he's sleeping.
Starting point is 01:57:14 He's sleeping in them. Yeah. He makes one move and that's like all coming down. So I guess we better end quick and shut things off before he makes any sudden movements. Yeah. Oh, he heard me say it.
Starting point is 01:57:24 He did hear you. We're talking about him now. Oh God. Now he's embarrassed. Oh, he heard me say it. He did hear you. You guys were talking about him now. Oh, God. Now he's embarrassed. Oh, God. He's definitely tangled in that. Okay, just stay there, boy. Tommy, where do they find you at?
Starting point is 01:57:35 You can find me at Tomahawk underscore D. You can follow me at Tanner underscore Baird, but don't worry about that. Just make sure to follow Massonomics at Massonomics. See ya.

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