Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 322: Jake Purdy of Stray Dog Strength

Episode Date: June 6, 2022

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If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! Massanomics! side everything massonomics welcome back listeners for episode 322 of the massonomics podcast the lifting podcast about nothing recorded live from western northeast south dakota my name is tanner and my name is tommy and 322 we got a banger we've planned everything about this episode out for weeks in advance and didn't get any of it together right before we started here today.

Definitely the most pre-production work we've ever put into an episode. Absolutely. And as we're kicking off, I want to hit you guys with something here first. And this is going to be audio through my phone, Tommy. Are we set up for that sort of thing? Hit the audio button. Okay. I wanted to give you a little

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Pretty good, huh? You kind of know something about that. Okay, that's, I do know a little something about that. I was never heard what, but you haven't,

that's the first time you've heard that, and I never heard what panned out of that. So I didn't know. Everything worked out really well. You had a good recommendation there, it worked everything worked out really well you had a good recommendation there and it all worked out really well so awesome that's uh you know a new strength co ad that's not wasn't specifically made for the mathonomics podcast grant's working on some stuff you know that's going to be associated with some cool video and oh absolutely i would say you blew an opportunity there tanner to go i gotta read the strength co-ed and then play that.

Because audio, no one's going to know. Lip sync the whole thing. Just for the YouTube people wouldn't know. That's the strike call. So the reason there was the bigger gap is because it's probably different things. Yeah, yeah. Like different uses of. Yeah, that's got some bang to it that does you could almost say that pops even

like big brand goes this guy is absolute savage yeah i picture it's like it's like the giga chad reading that right yeah yeah yeah that is what it would yeah that's what you think right um that i don't know about you but that makes me want to buy some strength plates uh yeah i don't know who i don't know who could resist them after hearing that no um not only do i want to buy strength code plates you know what else i want to buy right now what anything and everything's from spud inc don't get me started you can check them out at spud dash ink dash straps dot com that's not morris code that is their website we uh we don't have a discount code with them but what they do have going on is their free

shipping on all u.s orders of 75 or more and maybe you're asking what is it that i could get from the strength co and well it's great because there's a lot of stuff you can get from the strength co you could get uh carpet style pulling sleds the bow tie we all know about the bow tie if you've been around mass comics podcast you've heard that about that quite a bit you can get pulley systems for your home gym belt squat belts harnesses training straps gateway gear you know like single ply and double ply gateway briefs that sort of thing test the waters yep they also sell belts um straps wraps and sleeves of course i would say that's really in their suites you know the strap straps and sleeves that's uh they got it covered the tsunami bar uh and then some very quite a bit of uh different strongman equipment so if you're strongman you got

stuff there that you should check out and like i said free shipping to the u.s um for 75 dollars or more and it's spud dash ink dash traps and it can and tell them masonomics yeah tell them masonomics yeah so we can keep them around as a sponsor forever that's the plan yes uh so we do have a guest this week but before the guest we've got all kinds of other stuff we're going to talk to talk about don't we and because we've planned this out so far in advance we know exactly what we're about to talk about because we discussed with each other all these things that we're going to talk just like we discussed i do got to give uh just a glowing recommendation to our dad hats i've been testing those things out pretty hard over the last two months what colors i have all

of them except khaki okay and maybe that's part of why i like them so much is i got one that fits every outfit you know right when you got the khaki would really yeah khaki would give me unlimited options right when you got black green and the rose color or what's a black olive and rose yep that goes with almost everything right there the missing one is actually oak oak that true that's the correct name yes not khaki it's oak but man i just i love the fit on them they go with everything they're great hats i'm i'm very very happy and they're comfortable you know forever i was the my my go-to hat was always the the new era snapback that was embroidered yeah i still have that hat but it's nowhere near as comfortable as the dad hats.

The comfort cannot be beat. You're not saying to buy them, are you? Well, I'm not, but people can. Okay. I don't know. I'd be a little conflicted with that. I don't want people to take too many liberties here with what I'm saying,

but what I'm saying is I like my hats. That's what I'm saying. I didn't buy the hats. I don't't have one but i oftentimes think about uh it's wearing one but i just haven't worn a hat for two and a half years it's pretty rare that i leave the house now without one on it's uh yeah they are my so which one's your favorite color though i probably wear black the most just because i have the most black pieces of clothing but the next most popular for me for sure is olive okay it's probably like this it's probably like 40 black 40 black like 30 olive and then no it's not it's not 30 row it's

probably like 45 i don't need to get the details here but you get what i'm saying it's funny because i keep thinking about getting one of the oak you know taking one of the oak lights i keep thinking about the reason actually one of the reasons i don't wear the black is because on those very few hot days we've had i'm like can't wear that's where the black hat the oak would really be the perfect hat for those days yeah so before summer's over i'll probably have one of those you know how cheap i am is that like i keep thinking about getting one of those khaki ones and like wearing it. Like when I do yard work and stuff like that. And I'm like,

I can't bear to take a new hat and like get it, just get it dirty right away. You know, that's kind of what I thought too. And I was getting sweaty. I'm like, Oh, technically these things almost grow on trees for us.

Yeah. Well, that's, they live, they kind of do, but that's how, like, I still like can't break myself of that.

Cause I have this bad, and I have this bad habit of like, once a hat is like sweat stain, I'm like, well, that's just like i still like can't break myself of that oh because i'm this bad and i have this bad habit of like once a hat is like sweat stain i'm like well that's just a bad hat i still keep it around like you can't throw a hat away no no you that's just of the ones that are not like the bad pile like well my bad pile is twice the size of my good pile like this doesn't make any sense anymore yeah so dad hats yeah and we also had our other new stuff come out uh this last week we had the out shirt which has been a pretty smash hit, I think. That one has gone really well. Yeah, Ouch, Everything Hurts.

And did you get rocked all night long? Did you wake up feeling thunderstruck? Yeah. Then that shirt's for you. Yeah, and then we had the Tank tank tops raw power in the red and bench heavy those are both tri-blend tank tops you know the finest of quality of materials yep so it's uh just in time for crispy boy summer so snatch those up while you can and then we have the curls banner there's still a few curls banners yeah those are almost gone yeah and those are going to go back

into the vault once they sell out so if you're in the market for a curls banner go ahead and get one right away but the ouch tea is gone there's actually probably sizing that might be gone on the art getting gone yeah here yeah i know there is a couple sizes that were down there pretty low we are pretty good at guessing sizing yeah every once in a while we take some good swags on stuff yeah yeah scientific wild ass guesses yeah okay all right all right is that like a is that some new uh that's just corporate culture yeah i was gonna say people use that term all the time at work oh i've never heard that i was going through some stuff at work not too long ago where one person in the course of like two days and multiple conversations use the phrase putting pen to paper five to ten times. And you go, we're not serious. And I'm like, the last couple of times he said it, I'm like, you're fucking with me.

You know this. You forgot to put the emoji after the third, fourth, and fifth. And I'm like, you know that about the podcast or something, don't you? And you're just like purposely trying to like see if I'll laugh or something. You know, like I felt like they knew. But they didn't. Nope. They just really wanted to put pen to paper.

Maybe they're playing the long game and they actually do know. They're just going to start doing it even more and more. Yes. So if I had my druthers, I would put pen to paper on this. Yes. Well, we had a couple other topics here. Well, we also on the, while we're talking merchandise and things. Yeah.

The membership cards. The membership cards. That's probably the most exciting thing. You know, we had a drop this last week, but I might've been more excited for these membership cards. Yeah. So they actually started showing up.

Because no one had gotten one yet when we recorded last week, had they? It was Friday. I believe we recorded Wednesday and it was Friday when people started getting them. Right. You're right. Yeah. I think we recorded Wednesday and it was Friday when people started getting them. Right. You're right. Yeah.

I think we got ours on Friday, which is funny because ours came the same way that, you know, actually one got mailed to my house. You know, I was the return address and the recipient address, you know, like I forgot about that part of it, but it made it there. You know what that begs the question of? If you mailed something with insufficient postage and you put where you wanted to go as a return address. Yeah.

There's probably something that knows. Yeah. There has to be something that gets around that. I would imagine someone that listens listens to the works. Actually, at the world famous Brown County Fair here in aberdeen south dakota yeah one year i went to the rodeo i heard the rodeo clown say that was his joke is oh you don't know how to you don't have money for a stamp easy just write your name as these are the uh you know flip the addresses around right drop it in the mail and it gets there they're just going to return it to

sender there has to be something stopping that, though. Because that's just way too easy of a solution for people to exploit. It's interesting. Some of the Discord said, we never saw Tanner and Tommy's cards. Yeah, mine's actually, if you look at the video on Instagram today of where a bunch of people holding up their cards,

I am actually in there. You have to look closely. Oh, yeah, with the hair. Yeah, yeah. Mine's uh it's sitting right here on my shelf so we're the last numbers in the sequence we were but we have the earliest date though we do have the earliest date so we kind of put ourselves out of line ours is our dates ours date back to 2014 don't they yeah i think what do we put? December 28, 2014, something like that. I believe that is the time. Inception.

Yeah. It's like a Quentin Tarantino movie. It's like, whoa, but this is first, but it's the last one? What's going on here? It's like a twist ending. So for anyone that maybe isn't a supporting member and right now you're like, what are these membership cards? What were these membership cards, Tommy?

Like, how would I describe them? Yeah, like who got it and why did they get it? These were the Masonomics supporting member cards. It was the official Masonomics credit card that's good everywhere things are accepted. It even says so on the back. Accepted everywhere things are accepted. Basically, you got a card with massonomics it has your massonomics number on it your member date your name and yeah i mean it's yep it's

credit card size fits right in your wallet you can take it with you everyone has their own personal number on it to be a card carrying member of massonomics who asked i asked who is number one scott dodds received number one because he was the first ever supporting member. The other question that's come up is who's got 69. Nobody has posted yet 69. I saw Brandon Campbell posted his. He was 68.

So nobody has. Technically, we could look and find out. I kind of did. After Brandon posted that, I did a little looking, and I think I know who 69 is, but I don't want to spoil any surprises. Oh, actually, you know what? The sheet I have, though, is slightly different than the sheet that's in there. Okay. I think I know who 69 is but I don't want to spoil any surprises oh actually you know what the sheet I have though is slightly different than the sheet that's in there okay I think well I just looked at who was the next after him after him yeah that should be accurate right right

because otherwise I couldn't just go by the list because there are some duplicates you know like there is some differences there but I did just look who's after him so i think i do know who who it is but i won't spoil that surprise all right so if you signed up uh after we got him out you didn't get one you know most missed the first first batch but um won't be the last time we ever do a card that sort of thing and it won't be like the last thing we do uh for all supporting members we kind of got some other ideas the ideas are already cooking yeah and we've really had a lot of fun with this we what makes it fun though is seeing everyone share and just the surprise of it yeah right we we hinted at something was coming but for people to just get these in their mailbox out of nowhere is really fun for us yeah if you're from canada or europe you probably haven't received yours yet but all every sporting member has one

that went out somewhere, but there's going to be some of you that had old addresses in there that we're going to get those back, and we're just going to handle those as we get them and try and get your right address and get them sent back out. So now that we're going to be sending stuff to the supporting members, we're going to have this constant address. Just mail issues.

Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, the supporting member cards uh those alone are worth becoming a supporting member i would say i'd say for sure yeah world's strongest man was the other thing should we get into a can yeah let's have a can uh this isn't uh this isn't a what's in can, but it doesn't mean we can't drink it. All right. It doesn't mean we can't enjoy the hell out of it. We've had this one multiple times, and I keep coming back for it.

Ooh, raspberry pink lemonade sparkling polar. That just sounds good. Doesn't that just sound refreshing? You know, it's been raining a lot here, Tanner. Did you know that? Oh, yeah. Actually, this wasn't a topic on our list, but that actually reminds me of something that I should tell you about. So, Massanomics Gym is in the basement of a building.

It's in a deep basement. Well, and it's been already unusually wet around here lately. Like a lot of rain. That's a good spark in the water too. Refreshing? That's a four to me. All day. That's an easy four.

It's a hard four I think. A really hard four. That's a hard four. You're not like maybe that's a four. That's a pretty hard four. It's not a light four. It's a hard four. It's been real wet. Depending on what part of town you're in some people say over the last you know over the three-day span there that we got seven inches of rain

so it's a lot it's just like every day you look outside oh it's raining yeah oh am i going to bed is that a storm that i hear like monday night memorial day night it rained really really freaking hard for a while too i was just starting to fall asleep and i thought i heard it and like that can't be us that can't be rain again right but it was it was and um i some definitely there's been quite a few people in town that got water in their base the home the basement home uh water issues and that sucks our sump pump's been running like some people don't really have some parts of the country they don't really have basements i think so maybe they don't really know about this as much or rain really that's true parts too yeah that's a good point and they're like maybe their town isn't built on a swamp also which would

but like built in the middle of the swamp is my sump pump i timed it was running like every 15 seconds that's how quickly it was filling up at at home uh but anyways our our gym is in a deep basement in an old building and um used to be a nuclear fallout shelter so it still feels like a nuclear fallout shelter isn't there some signs up in the other i think there is yeah i mean that's a place i would want to be if there was a tornado oh god like if you're in the basement there i'm if a tornado could go overhead i might not sure you would be like like if you're working out if you're working out you for sure would not know you know have the music going you're kind of in your zone yep there's no way you're gonna know that something happened yeah um so i came down there actually

monday night when it was storming real bad I went down there because we've gotten water over the course of having that part of the gym over like the last four years. There's been a couple times when we've gotten a little bit of water there. And I knew with how much it had been raining and how much it was raining that night that it could be a potential issue. So I went down there Monday night. I was kind of trying to clean it up a little bit. Shot back up the water, mopped the water up as it was going. And I kind of had to clean it up a little bit um shot back up the water mop the water up as it

was going and i kind of had a good handle on it and i got to be like 10 30 11 at night and i thought you know what i can't sleep here like i actually really didn't consider it but there's for a split second in my head i'm like i suppose i could lay like i was getting so tired i was like i suppose i could lay on that bench and actually just like there's fall asleep yeah yes like i could do it um but i'm like yeah that doesn't seem like a practical uh a practical choice here so i went home went to bed came back at like 5 30 in the morning and much to my chagrin, the damn water. The damn ugly head. Yeah, the dam had burst apparently. And the entire gym was basically, you know, it wasn't deep.

It wasn't like feet of water. But there was water. Yeah, there was water. Did I show you like the video? I got the one video you'd sent me. Okay. Okay. So I sent you something.

Yeah. And there was a lot of water. I mean, I probably shot backed up, up you know a couple hundred gallons of water or something like that and it basically took like six straight hours of working on that and then back at it like five times a day non-stop until like right now and it's finally stopping you know it's not it's and you were saying like you were cleaning the water up and you'd get done go back and it would just be seeping back up to the floor right yeah yeah it's basically because like uh the water table is getting is so high from so the amount of rain that we've got in the basement so deep that even with

there's multiple you know several sump pumps around the perimeter of the basement too but it's just kind of a crazy time but it has subsided now so like i've had two nights of almost not sleeping because of like you know the anxiety waiting to go in and just see six feet of water yeah what's anxiety is that like when you're worried about things that haven't happened yet i think that's kind of what it is and that's exactly that's i had a severe anxiety at night because i'm like oh man what am i going to walk into in the morning but now today like i feel pretty good about it so i'm going to be able to rest until it rains again this weekend right that's like i think it could even rain a little bit and it'll be fine as long as it doesn't rain like three inches in a couple hours again you know like like a little bit of rain is okay,

but we've just been getting such... Just dumped on. Yeah, yeah. So the gym's okay for now? Gym's back. You know, the deadlift platforms, this evening I got to go put them back on the floor. Those things have been getting some water hit on them

pretty good, haven't they? Yeah, they're resilient. I'm amazed how those are actually holding up. Yeah, and I got, you know a bunch of uh box fans or fan you know what are floor fans going on stuff and luckily gym equipment's pretty resilient as far as that like a little bit of metal feet on stuff or you know those some of those platforms like flip them up dry them dry out the floor underneath of it and like for the most part it's been good to go yeah that's good so the moral of the story is um i'm not really sure what the moral of the story is

don't own a gym that's what it is that is when i when i'm in there for like five hours shop backing that's what i'm like i'm like like mad at all the people out there that think it's a good idea to own it like you dumb shits you have no idea what i go through if only you knew yeah uh but it's it's just one of those things it's just one of those things one of those things and like uh with a gym like ours you kind of take the good with the bad honestly like roll with the punches that is kind of like yeah would uh being on the main floor of a really nice brand new building and like having like nice finishings on everything be nice i'm like well i'm not sure if it would be for a gym exactly some people like that sounds like yeah right i mean right definitely see how their parts of that would be really nice right like not having a flooding

yeah it's not like it's a hundred percent win but there's a lot of things that would be a wind. But then enough stuff like that. And then like part of our gym's atmosphere is it being in a basement. You know what I mean? Like you start to change too much of those features, then all of a sudden it's not what it is. Yeah, they're like, hey, that was my favorite T-shirt. I sudden it's not what it is. Yeah.

They're like, Hey, that was my favorite t-shirt. I liked it with the holes in it. What'd you throw it out for? It's like that. Yes. It is.

That's a good example. That's my, that's my work hat. It has the sweat stains and I like the sweat stains. Like that's, that's how I want it. Yeah. Yep.

That's what it's like. I got a new one. I got to rub it in the dirt right away. Don't buy our hats, but yeah. So that but yeah so that was the that was the weather update slash flooding gym update and you're gonna you but i could advertise now that we have a pool you could that was the first joke i thought of when i walked in and be like ah not mass dynamics gym now featuring a pool the pool's coming in hot yeah we don't have

the full body vibrator but we have a pool in the gym well once we got the maybe we need a full body vibrator in the pool then we'd really be onto something yes you were but before we even started this you were going to say something and i interrupted you about rain and i don't even remember what you were going to tell me oh it's like rain in your basement i am we're going to talk about well first we're going to talk about world's strongest man but then we're going to have a can and then we start talking about this but then we also we also did a little party in this weekend too didn't we do a little bit of drinking boys and the rain also hit out there i don't know if you saw i was already gone the door i when i was like holy crap this was this

was a part of the seven inches because it was like that was when it was first starting like that was two nights prior to this other hard and it was coming down like you open the door to the building which is on the main floor and water starts just pouring into the building that's like there's a video it must have been from flying ryan of you standing at the door i'm like it was what is that much water coming from it was like someone had a fire hose outside the door why was it just pouring into the door like so did you like shut the door and it stops coming in i just stood there i just yeah but uh yeah that was yeah it was it was crazy uh but my yeah my brother right he got married last year but then he had a big reception this year so we all got to partake in that and there it was fun there was a bunch of supporting members there actually like people showing me their cards okay here's the ones i big brian big caden big grayson um and then there uh there was others i there was at least one other

one and i'm just forgetting now i can't but i just because the number of people that were like hey got my card you know and i'm like oh yeah you you're a supporting member too um i don't know but i'm like yeah i'm pretty sure you're missing one but yeah but then just a lot of gym members there too right right uh you know people we know so it was uh it was a really fun night got to do some eating a little drinking i had to take a lift home even you got a lift home a lift i actually got a lift home too do we have uber here or is it just no i think just left it i actually i don't know lift is all i've ever known in time maybe there is yeah i don't really know how to do that stuff so my wife corralled that my wife my wife she said let's hit the road jack uh but yeah world's strongest

man results that was the other thing so here's the here's the 10 should we give them the 10,000 let's do it because you can find the do we need to get up to 10,000 yeah let's we give them the 10,000 foot view? Let's do it. Do we need to get up to 10,000? Yeah, let's take it up to 10,000. We're just cruising at like... Okay. Okay. All right. So the World's Strongest Man, 10,000 foot view.

If you're into World's Strongest Man, you already000 foot view, you know, you've, if you're into world's strongest man, you already know who won and you know that stuff. So Tom Stoltman won, he got first place back to back champ. Uh, Martine's got second. Tied though.

Yeah. He tied. And then it's a count back to, uh, whoever did best on the stones, which I think that's an interesting, um, is that too much emphasis on the stones?

The stones already have emphasis because it's the last, it's the final event every year. That's enough emphasis on the Stones. Is that a historical rule or has it always, or is that more of a more recent tiebreaker? I don't know if there was, I don't know if there was, I don't know what the rule was. It was the year that Brian and Z tied for first.

I don't think there was a something set a definitive uh count back to go to and they like like had to like oh because brian's still mad because brian i mean i don't know if he's mad but like it's it's still yeah those two tied and like the count back that he ended up losing on was like something that nobody was aware of that would even potentially you know it was like a weird uh thing aware of that would even potentially you know it was like a weird uh thing and like that's how close you would be to having the fifth a lot of people mad because um alexei won because he won more events right and like that's the more logical count you know it seems like a tiebreaker to me but so he got third and brian got fourth one through four are all prior world's strongest men

too so that's kind of an interesting yeah i don't i would assume that's never happened let alone like the podium many times the podium was all prior world's strongest men but one through four was actually like the all they have all been world's strongest man before. So that's kind of a cool thing. It is, yeah. Other, like, so I'm just pointing out the things that I noted. That's one. And then other thing was Tom Stoltman, because Novikov did so poorly in that last event

and like dropped down in Martins Tide, he was more than 10 points ahead of anyone else, of second and third and obviously anyone else. So that means any event he could have any one event he could have completely not even done and he would have still won yeah in hindsight you know he wouldn't know that going but still that into it that but that's pretty dominant in that case but he literally could have not done it i think he uh what did he have like like 53.5 points out of a possible 60 or something like that.

Like he averaged leaving like one point off per event. Yeah, it's pretty tough to beat someone when they're doing that. Yeah, like that shows me like he's going to be tough, you know, if he brings that package, you know, the proverbial package. He'll be hard to beat. It's hard to play the the what if thing but even novikov going into the last day though he had won what did he win three events at that point like two for sure i you know he was very he was crushing it two for sure and then maybe he was like a second or third right but then was it the last day he got last or yeah second to last in two events but you could look at the last the the second day's

events were the bus pull the power stairs and the stones which you could tell those are all like they're all um good events for tom they all kind of even suit like a bigger guy like not bus pull conventionally that used to be the wisdom i don't know if it's necessarily true because some smaller guys do well at it too but usually bust pull is great for the giants and then power stairs the taller guys always have an advantage and then tom you know bigger guys and especially tom is like great at so and so you kind of knew that like tom had a good chance of making up some ground and that but then no cop did so you know kind of really puttered ground on that. But then Novikov did, you know,

kind of really puttered out on the last couple in particular. But it is just crazy how much he won by. You know, that's pretty dominant. Yeah, that's a dominant performance, absolutely. And like Brian Shaw, it seemed like he did all right. You know, he's always a topic of discussion on these things because, you know, he's won four times. He's getting old, but he's still competitive.

Is he going to make it out of his heat? Right. Yeah, and he, you know, that was close to him making out of it. And he did pretty well in the finals, I thought. Like, here's my thing. Like, he did pretty well, and he got fourth. And that's nothing to shake a stick at. But if you're Brian Shaw, I don't think you like getting fourth.

You, like, kind of just like anything but winning is not what you. You ain't first, you're brian shaw i don't think you like getting fourth you like kind of just like anything but winning is uh yep not what you first or last so i'm just it's just kind of like i don't know that it's really possible for you know it's not realistic to think that he could win anymore i don't think in my mind just without strong tom's looking right tom martinez novikov and then like so shaw's points all the way through all the people through like eighth, they all had like within a couple of points. Yeah, it was like, okay, if one or two events worked out a little different,

the placings could be very different. So if other people are healthy, I just, cause I don't think Brian was hurt or like there was nothing where it's like, oh, he really screwed up. But I thought I just, so I just don't know that it could be quite as competitive as those very top guys.

Not saying that means he shouldn't do it anymore because that's up, you know. But he's also, what, 40? Yeah, yeah. Which is insane too. You know, some people are like, oh, you should retire. You suck. And it's like, well, no, you don't suck. You still got fourth at World's Strongest Man.

Yeah. Which is, but I just don't know if it's realistic to think that he could win anymore. Yeah. With these other guys, if they're on their game. And they said it's, so this was in Sacramento. They said next year it's going to be in South Carolina, I think. Is there a specific region of South Carolina? I think the.

Western, Northeast, South Carolina. South. Well, I know of the Carolinas. There's a specific region. They said South. Okay. South, South. The South Carolina know of the Carolinas. There's a specific region. They said South. Okay. South. The South Carolina.

Yeah. Yeah. Myrtle Beach, someone said. The Southern of the Carolinas. Yeah. Myrtle Beach. All right. I don't know.

Maybe we'll pencil that in on our calendar. We actually, at the very end of this, we just, like, toyed with the idea of going to Sacramento. Should we go? And then we're like, maybe we should look at what that is. We're like, oh, it starts in, like,. And then we're like, when is it exactly? Oh, it starts in like two days. We're like, oh, no, that's not quite enough time here. Yeah, we waited too late on this one.

Yeah. So we didn't go. I was about to say, there's always next year. There really is always next year, isn't there? So maybe we'll be South Carolina bound next year. I think we roughly pencil that one in. Yeah. Not pen or marker. We'll just put pencil to paper on that one.

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So a couple things here. Probably, well, obviously the most important one I wanted to mention is, so Big Mitchell is a supporting member, and his daughter, Big Rowan, is having brain surgery on Monday. So we just wanted to wish them the best and we're hoping everything goes as good as possible. Yes. And I think it's easy to say the whole massonomics crew is behind you on that

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See ya. All right. Should we get Big Jake? today. Yep. Better say bye to the Discord. Bye Discord. See ya. Alright. Should we get Big Jake? Yep. Go in here. Here we go. Let's do our damndest. Hello? Big Jake, is that you? sir is this tanner yeah this is tanner and tommy's here too what's up jake how's it going tommy good we're we're excited to get you on here we i know we kind of got you last minute so we're glad uh glad you were down down to give it a shot here. Yeah, I got a text from South Dakota. I was like, I wonder who this is.

You said that again. First time ever. You were probably wondering, why do they have my phone number? I just placed that order. That was it. The lift shorts got the best of you. Yeah, they did. I've been hearing so much about them.

I had to give them a try yeah okay so we're excited to talk to you uh and talk to you about stray dog strength and um you know just like to be honest i my first exposure to the uh your company was just recent here from uh brandon brandon diamond brandon campbell I was talking to him about adjustable benches, and he said, you know who you really need to check out is Stray Dog and check out theirs, and you should really consider getting one of theirs. And when you're getting a recommendation from Brandon Campbell, that's not something you just pass up.

You don't take lightly. Yeah, that's a big honor. Shout out to Brandon. Yeah, so I started checking you out, and it turns out you guys make all kinds of awesome stuff. And eventually that leads to us getting you on the podcast. So where are you guys out of? We're technically out of Newark, Ohio.

But our manufacturing is down in Columbus, Ohio. We're right outside of Columbus, Ohio. Okay. So what's kind of like the origin story of Stray Dog? I mean, I know it's probably, I know you mentioned your dad started it, but like what's the story on that? What's the timeline? We like to talk in terms of timeline, so it'll be a good timeline. Yeah, timeline on it.

So Stray Dog started out as the Equipment Guys originally. I started out as the equipment guys originally. So back in 1996, my father, Matt Purdy, he started, he was working for another company, Max Rack and Barry's Barbell, and he branched off on his own. So he started making rack. He claims he was one of the original pioneers of the rack bench system. So in the 90s, everybody was using an incline bench and a flat bench. Matt decided, and a squat rack.

Matt decided, let's bring it all into one, make it one big unit. everybody was using an incline bench and a flat bench matt decided and a squat rack matt decided let's bring it all into one make it one big unit so we started selling these racks back in the days uh back in the day and in the 90s we have pictures of them in the in the chicago bulls and the kentucky wildcats all over the place um so we really took off originally because we were one of the first people doing the racks um and then I think about maybe it was 98, we switched the name, the brand to Stray Dog. So Equipment Guys is still the name of the business. So you get an invoice. Sometimes it'll say like the Equipment Guys, but the brand is Stray Dog Strength.

We go as Stray Dog. So that's why everybody's like, Oh, you guys are brand new. It's like, no, actually in 2020, we decided to change our website from the equipmentguys.com to straydogstrength.com and to change the Instagram from the equipment guys and all the social medias and all that. And that's what really, I think helped blow us up is the name, the name recognition of the equipment guys. Like, you know what I mean? That's such a bland name and no one's going to remember that. So we switched it to stray dog. Yeah. Yeah. So what, so I mean, was that, uh, obviously you're kind of the second generation. Was that something you were

pushing towards or, you know, like rebranding is kind of a big deal after that many years. Yeah. It was a big, like a big like a big like argument honestly like my whole life my wall i've had like a stray dog poster on the wall and like stray dog is like the real name you know i mean to me it was always stray dog it was never the equipment guys so once i graduated college i me and my older brother who's our engineer we decided that stray dog was the move and our my my dad and my mom who were the the two owners decided that they were gonna like you know let us kind of run the ship and start taking over so that's what's

been going on since 2020 um and we've switched over everything to straight up so so it really is a family uh business that so you're and your brother both yeah okay yeah so like my brother and Isaac he he does the engineering and the product design with me so I do marketing and product design and he does engineering and product design and all of that um so yeah cool and so one of the things you know talking about products we were looking through and you guys do have um some unique things that stood out to us when we were going through it you guys do have um some unique things that stood out to us when we were going through it the first one and this is the one that like canter said uh first made you pop up to us was yeah your your adjustable bench and uh you guys do it a little different than

the rest of the industry does yes sir yeah so we yeah. So what, what is the story or what is the story and how did, how did that come to be? Basically Zach decided like, well, if we're going to make an adjustable bench to compete with everybody, like we just don't want to make the same copycat adjustable bench. So we were like, what can we change? So if you remove the ladder from the frame, you now have a free frame. And when you have a free frame,

you can have a spotter plate there and you have a less of a width on the spotter plate so it's better for every other move other than bench press does that make sense yeah yep yeah because like you know i mean like you're using one of those like wide like more traditional benches and you're doing a dumbbell row and you can't even like do right even uh you can do 40 or 60 of a rep or whatever and you hit the bottom so we decided to move the spotter plate in and then also what that allows you to do is like you can stand there so like i know this sounds cheesy but like creature curl on that bench is money like you can stand like on the frame and put your arm we literally designed the the the angle to be like downward so it doesn't hit your armpit because originally it was hitting my armpit.

And then you can do preacher curls like it's meant for that. It's crazy. And so for people like if it wasn't clear enough, it's the traditional adjustable bench. It does have that ladder system on the bottom where it adjusts. You see the steps across the bottom where the bench adjusts. yours adjust on the actual back of the bench pad yes the other reason for that is you know how like everybody will lift the pad and they kick it out with their foot yeah yeah so like that's kind of like that's not like the move i feel like i feel like if you can just pull it from right where your other hand is like you don't have to bend all the way over

like that's just much more comfortable to adjust so it's like an ergonomic thing then yeah yeah yeah we were like why isn't the handle like right here like right this doesn't make any sense and like we deal with schools a lot we sell to schools so mostly so 90 of our business is colleges and high schools selling them to sports performance. So we do mostly athletic departments selling, and we do a little bit of rec centers, but not very many. But anyways, what I'm getting to there is they're going through high use. So the faster you can get the athletes through and adjusted, the better. Because it's not like in your garage, where you're the guy using the bench and you can leave it on the incline if you're not doing anything else that day and it stays there. But these kids are moving it in and out, in and out.

So that's like one of the things we have our salesman pitch is like it's faster. That makes sense. So, yeah, you mentioned we kind of picked up on that, that you do a lot to schools and, you know, like outfit complete gyms and that sort of thing. So have you been obviously you're working on complete gyms and that sort of thing so have you been uh obviously you're working on continuing that and growing that of course but have you been focusing also more on like the direct to consumer you know the home gym user and that sort of thing as that's become a way bigger market i suppose than it used to be too yeah so like a lot of companies you know like strength go and a bunch of people they they got into the business during COVID. During COVID, we didn't get into the business. We just kind of like pivoted a little bit because a lot of the schools were closed. So they weren't wanting to buy stuff. So I started selling to, you know, everybody like for their home gym.

uh before that if you called us we if we didn't know who you were we would basically tell you no we don't want to sell one rack um because if you're not set up for it it's a big hassle like we don't have like even to this day like we don't have boxes for all of our product like made for all of our products we we make boxes like ourselves for them and then we also do like pallets so when we ship a rack and we make like these custom-made pallets that we like screw the uh we like basically form fit wood around all the rack posts and the cross members and all that so it doesn't like move in shipping and all that um so like we had to learn all of that so it's a big learning curve but yeah we definitely are focusing on it now that's cool yeah and you're kind of weird product wise we're looking at some other stuff too and

like what another thing that sticks out is they haven't really seen it that often where it's um i don't know if you call it kind of like a half rack but it's like a three post half rack design yeah the triad yeah yeah so the triad was actually like we came up with that during COVID as well because steel prices were rising and we didn't want to make a rack that had five eighths holes or smaller tubing. And we wanted to make the rack cheaper because the steel prices were rising and we wanted to keep the price the same and not raise the price. So what we did was we just eliminated a post, basically. So what we did was we just eliminated a post basically. And yeah, looking at the picture, you're like, man, it looks strange,

but then you're like, well, but it also seems kind of obvious because it's almost just as functional. Yeah, no, they are. We've installed them. I think we've sold like over like a hundred of them to schools mainly. A lot of people get the double sidesided have you seen those no but i guess i'm picturing it already so it's where it's like a rack on each side like the collegiate yeah it's like yeah exactly so it's a double-sided half rack so we make the alpha half rack like the four it would be an eight post rack and then we also or a six post rack excuse me and then we also

make the the triad rack which is the same thing, but it's only five posts. And the cool thing about the triad is, so you know where those cross members go in and they meet at the back upright? All that space there is free. So you can walk in and out and there's the plate pegs, right? They're not hitting you because there's no rack post there. You walk right around it to the side, the sides are open. So what you can do is we have a rack mounted cable column, belt squat or lap pull down, and you can put that there. You walk right around it to the side, the sides are open. So what you can do is we have a rack mounted cable column, belt squat, or lap pull down, and you can put that there. So you could have a half rack with a cable column and a lap pull down off the back to the sides. And as long as if you didn't put it up against the wall, it would be fully functional in like a, it's 36

by 49. So that's like a very small footprint you can have all of that yeah and that's uh you know that is kind of part of the problem with a lot of these racks is they just get so damn big where that yeah like that's a major selling point of of a system like that yeah for sure like that triad then do people put plate pins on that back third post? Like just put plate pins on both sides of that one post? Yeah, that's exactly what they do. So what we'll normally do is we'll put a change plate storage. Have you seen that? The three-prong?

Does Brandon Campbell have something like that? I don't think he does, but it's our best-selling product, honestly. It's our best seller. What is it then? Explain that. So it's basically a change plate storage seller what what is it then explain that so it's basically it's a change plate storage so it holds two and a half fives and tens but it only takes one bolt so it's not very big and the coolest thing about it is there's storage on the back and for like for chains bands or whatever but there's also the weight pegs are angled up two degrees because you don't need a normal weight peg angled up because you've got a 45 or a 25 or a 35.

But a change plate is two and a half pounds. And if you re-rack 315, see a change plate. It rattles. Yeah, right, right. Or it falls off mid-set. Yeah, no, I've had it fall off. Yeah, we've had problems with that. Absolutely.

Exactly. So we just angled it up two degrees. So I've had a couple of customers flip it upside upside down not knowing it was angled up two degrees and they were like they slide down it doesn't really work yeah i was like no no you have it upside down that's a good idea though i like the idea so so it's instead of being all vertical for those you can get like three side three what do you so yeah that's a good idea and the cool thing is is it works on five eights too so there's a one inch hole and a five eights hole so the same product i can sell you works on both okay what hardware are your guys's racks usually which what what oh we only make one inch okay okay yeah we make we've been making five eights hardware solely for

the home gym community like i've never sold a five-eighths anything to a school okay ever gotcha yeah um so you i mean maybe one day but yeah yeah yeah okay so you guys are out of ohio obviously like why do you what why is there so much equipment gym equipment manufacturing is that like the rule is there some law we don't know about uh yeah i don't know i guess just i i'm not completely sure what that is i guarantee you my father could speak to that more yeah but like i mean we have elite fts we have rogue we have stray dog you got um what's it called bridge built you got bare steel just popped up you have uh do you guys know what body craft is i don't think so body craft is like a huge mostly into like cardio equipment so like

you know most people don't care about that but they they make racks like some home gym stuff okay they're in columbus and then there's a bunch of there's like three or four more but there is a lot it's interesting that's a but but the thing about that is it's like think about like detroit right like there's cars there so why are all the why were all the car plants there because the same resources were there so if you're the seller of rubber or you're the seller of seatbelt cloth you can you just don't have to ship as far like so like our plastics is supplier like you know they sell to the other manufacturers in ohio like it's the same guys they all do like yeah yeah that then that that makes sense um but what we kind of speaking of ohio we kind of have this ongoing debate amongst like, uh, ourselves and, you know, our close followers and stuff.

And everyone always wants to know, everyone has an opinion. Uh, is Ohio part of the Midwest? Um, that's a hard question to answer. Um, but, but i would say yes and it seems like most ohio people that we've seen they say yes they do say yes what what do you think well see for us like if if you if i were to say what is the very easternmost state you could ever count in the midwest i mean ohio you can't go east of ohio that no no No, no. So Ohio is the most easternmost state you could ever count. And we're in South Dakota, and that is probably the most western state you could ever count

too. So we're on the exact opposite ends. Right. And where this really became a point of concern for us, we're in Aberdeen, South Dakota. We call it western northeast South Dakota. And where this became obvious for us was the first time we drove to the arnold how it takes like yeah what 20 hours and it takes two days you know 20 hours to get there and you're like we're still in the midwest we drove this far and it's still the midwest so that's where it's uh it's there's a debate around

there right now you guys are north you guys are like not that far from North Dakota then. No, yeah, we're close to North Dakota. Yeah. We're actually, you know, it's,

it's kind of deceiving how far, like when we come to Columbus, how far South we have to travel. Like that's kind of, you don't necessarily think about that. Like you just think, Oh, it must be like straight East,

but we actually have to go South quite a ways. Yeah. We drive South. If you go straight East, you'll be in the middle of lake michigan so so you're you're you're on team ohio is midwest then okay i guess yeah if i had to take if i take a stand the weird thing is though like so i went to school in morgantown at west virginia university so like most kids are from the East Coast. And they would always be like, what is Ohio?

Because it's not the Midwest, and it's not the East Coast. I'm like, I don't know, man. I don't know what to tell you. We've seen some people that have said Ohio, Michigan, maybe Wisconsin, or the Great Lakes states. I can see that. It doesn't roll off the tongue no this ohio and michigan like doesn't you know have the best like relationship so

there was a war and everything yeah okay there was a war fought so you're you were talking about 2020 and kind of how you know a lot of equipment manufacturers and have changed yeah shifted and um change gears and that sort of thing but like we something that we also a recurring thing we like to talk about is the supply chain issues so like how what are the supply chain like is there are there significant supply chain issues that you're facing today still on making equipment um yes and no some of this most of our i mean almost all of our stuff is coming from america so like it's not a problem with like the shipping um but some of our stuff like is coming over from

overseas so there is a little bit of a backup there but it's not too bad i don't really deal with the supply chain on that but from what i understand, it's not a problem. Like whenever we've had big orders, like a 20, 30 rack order, we fulfill it. It's not, not a big deal. We've been doing just fine. So yeah, we actually had our best month ever in May. So we're, uh, we're doing pretty well. That's awesome. That's a good sign. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, sir. Glad to see the marketing's paying off. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. That's, that's cool. That's, that's definitely a good sign. So we talked about several unique pieces of equipment.

What else like haven't we talked about that? There's the hooks. Yeah. The other, the other bestseller. Yeah. Everybody loves those hooks. The hooks are, so they originally we were just like, well, we have all these attachments for, you know, our ATR system. Have you seen those with all the cable columns and all that? Yeah.

Yes. Yes. So it's got all those holes on the back and we're selling them to schools and the, the connector, like the storage units being bolted on don't really work very well because you don't always want something stored there. And like moving taking a one inch bolt off is a pain in the ass everybody knows so you know having the little movable hook is much better um yeah we just we made it steel and a bunch of people have asked us to make it

plastic but to do that we're gonna have to increase the price and do a bunch of extra stuff so we decided to just you know keep it uh keep it solid steel and they're super sturdy i mean i've i've personally like held my body weight on the hook no problem like didn't nothing happen um they're yeah they're pretty solid product and you know looking through they make total sense when you look at them yeah and yeah maybe the biggest shocker is and you hit this is they're like cheap like i mean inexpensive they don't look cheap like it's steel but they're very inexpensive too yeah well you know why they were so cheap in the beginning is we had drops of steel so when you cut stuff out

the laser there's extra steel just hanging out yeah and we were like we were like ah this piece right here could have eight storage hooks in it like you know what i mean yeah right right we just started you know you know you're buying like you know what i mean yeah so that's cool so what about anything anything any other uh oh i didn't talk about the best one talk about the best one what's the uh the goat attachment have you seen that i don't know if i do know what it is you might have to pull that up real quick it's kind of hard to explain okay it's uh so basically what it is is it's a it's a a three by three one inch tube with holes all over like a rack post and it's on a pivot so it's very similar to a jammer arm but it's only 24 inches so it's not

really made to be a jammer arm. It's more made to be like a multi-use tool. So the original thing that it came of in 2019, we made an adjustable step-up plate. Have you ever seen our step-up plate? I did see that one in here. Yes. Yeah. So the step-up plate originally was this piece that was, we had three, we had three quarter inch racks back in 2019. We't make the switch to one inch until 20 2020 um and in 2019 we had a customer that wanted to do angled he wanted to do dorsiflexion and planar flexion like uh heel elevated and toe elevated step ups and uh pistol squats and all that with his clients yep um have you guys ever done those uh i've i don't really do them no yeah yeah the heel elevated step ups are a burner like it it really hits your glute it really really Have you guys ever done those? I don't really do them, no. Yeah. Yeah.

The heel elevated step ups are a burner. Like it really hits your glute really, really well. Okay. Anyways. We're watching a video of it right now. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

So we made, that one had 18 adjustment points. And then when we moved it over to one inch, we couldn't have 18 adjustment points because the bracket would be like two feet long. So we had to reduce the adjustment points down and bracket would be like two feet long um so we had to reduce the just adjustment points down and we found the angles that we felt were best and then you can pin in the tube at different angles so you can put different one inch attachments on there and then pin it in and then use it like that okay that's that's interesting yeah yeah that is interesting so what i use it for mostly is leg extensions yeah i see people using it for leg extension and leg curls i do i do a lot of the step ups and then i'll do uh like a pistol squat um and what's nice about that is like you can hold on

to the rack post and give yourself a little bit of stability and um that's nice and then also i'll do like uh like back or chest supported like rows or whatever with with the lat seat on there. That works really well. You said your brother designs a lot of products and does that sort of thing. Does he always have 20 different things he's thinking about and working on? Oh my gosh. You have no idea what trying to lift with them is like it's it's annoying we're lifting right and we have a whiteboard like so it's a showroom a conference room and an office right next to each other and the conference room has this big whiteboard and it's like literally probably 12 feet from the triad rack and i'll

be like lifting and i'll be like jake come here and he like has this sketch drawn on the whiteboard he's like what do you think i'm like uh i'm trying to squat like i don't care like but yeah so sometimes it's a little too much i'm like all right we need a lip sack but yeah it's pretty fun we basically just like lift talk about stuff lift go back and forth oh i i can kind of relate to that because when tanner and i are in at the gym at the same time, uh, yeah. Start riffing on massonomics ideas. And then all of a sudden you're like, damn, it's been 30 minutes between sets here.

I need to get back to it. Like what else, what else, what other attachments can you make to hold stuff? I do. I do like the, uh, change plate storage.

Uh, I was just looking at the, the triad, uh, uh, well, I, sorry, that's mixing names of things, but the change plate storage, looking at that again,

I'm like, that does make a lot of sense. That's good. Yeah, it does. Is there any top secret stuff that's coming out soon that you can't talk about? Black label? That's pretty cool. Are you there? I cut out too much. You didn't hear what I said. I said,

I said, uh, the adjustable lever arms that like are pretty revolutionary okay they're awesome okay yeah i got the prototype in the showroom if you ever want to come down and give them a run well we do come to columbus at least once a year so we don't get too far from there um yeah and then i'm also working on something i call like landmine 2.0 i haven't really just like figured out the name of it yet but basically it's like it just erases the need for a landmine okay basically were you talking about lifting and you and your brother lifting and you know it being the company that is like did your dad lift too like does everyone lift yeah yeah pretty much i mean we all like played football and like

you know just lift and stuff and we all wrestled and all that so you know just kind of goes with the whole culture and all that um but my dad was a power lifter he competed for like two or three years after college um so he played like middle linebacker at ashland university and he just loved like training like he was always just like that guy apparently um his actually our heads our leading salesman nick gillia he was his uh college roommate they were both football players together at ashland so okay cool have you ever uh considered doing a power lifting meet then too um see i would but i keep like having shoulder surgery. My, I can't get my shoulder straight.

Yeah. That makes it harder to bench press probably. Yeah. I haven't bench pressed since probably 2018 with a straight bar, maybe 2020. It's been a while, but I dislocated my shoulder like 25, 26 times playing like football, lacrosse wrestling and like all that.

So I've had like a bunch of surgeries yeah in september they i broke the bones in my in my shoulder socket uh i was in a i was wrestling one of my buddies and i dislocated my shoulder really bad and um i had to have this surgery called a ladder j and they like cut a piece of my bone out moved it up and then screwed it in where i was broke the bone out of my shoulder so it's like as good as new now yeah it's a miracle that i can go over i overhead pressed for the first time like three weeks ago i was so upset when the alpha bench came out i was like oh great i can't even use it yeah yeah when the alpha bench came out. I was like, Oh great. I can't even use it. Yeah. Yeah.

Right. The alpha bench. That's what the adjustable one we're talking about is called. Is that right? Yeah. Okay. Basically like our top line of whatever product is the alpha. Yeah. So we just released this really cool releasing a cable attachments right now.

So I just released the alpha chaining triangle and the, the multi-grip it's a multi-grip landmine slash cable attachment it does both it's pretty sweet um but basically yeah anything alpha is like our tops we have like the alpha roller and then we have the single roller uh yeah and we have alpha rack triad rack so we're starting to add more but okay so it uh you know it seems like the the rack and fitness like it seems like the space is maturing you know like there's some established players like the a lot of the popular items are out and for the most part like you kind of you don't get surprised too often but it does seem like you guys are still pumping out some new and

fresh things like do you guys feel pretty confident that you can keep pumping out new ideas for for the coming years here oh 100 that's like all i think about so that's awesome who is uh who is um anyone like a lifter or someone through youtube instagram anything like that who's someone you would love to see using uh like stray dog equipment uh you know like anyone that you would just love to get something in their hands and see them using something of yours i mean i mean like the obvious like brian shaw right i mean you know um who else i mean i always wanted to meet ronnie coleman that's always been the guy yeah and I mean yeah buddy yeah yeah but um I mean other than that I'm not too like I don't have like anybody in particular I just I really want to see us like in like at like Ohio State football at like New York Yankees I want to see us like in like at like ohio state football at like new york yankees i want to

get the los angeles dodge i want to get big players yep yep we're coming we're coming after like the top dogs in the industry like our equipment is better than second to none like there's no fault like our designs are very very good the only reason we're gaining all this traction is because the designs we don't have marketing fluff, all this jazz going on. I just post products, videos of products. That's it. It's not going to change. Even if we grow, my marketing strategy is just keep it about the equipment.

Don't play around too much with all that extra stuff. It's just... That makes sense. Yes, sir. I guess it'd probably be alright if The Rock was using something. Yeah, The Rock. That would be sick. I heard he has a traveling home gym that just moves

with him set to set. That would be elite. That would be alpha. That would be alpha. Yeah. We've got uh this little game we like to play with every one of our guests called overrated underrated and we've got a special stray dog strength set of overrated underrated topics for you so it's your job uh to decide if each one's overrated underrated and you can elaborate on that as much as or as little as

you want you've got your druthers there but what you can't do is ride the line. You've got to ultimately decide if each one is overrated or underrated. But if you think you're ready to play, we'll fire them at you. We've got a few for you. Yeah, let's do it. Excellent. Overrated or underrated cornhole? Underrated.

And you know why we're asking you about cornhole yes i know why you know you know i dm the american cornhole association i dm them the boards they didn't reply i was fine they're missing an opportunity yeah we saw the cornhole boards on uh on your site so do you sell i mean do you like can someone order those? No, no, no. Okay. That was just an April Fool's joke. Oh, it was?

Okay. Oh, I got both of you? Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. So did one of those exist, or was that just like a... Oh, it was like a rendering. Oh, that was a rendering.

Oh, okay. Oh, you guys got caught by the rendering yeah oh that's great oh my brother's gonna love that he texted me on like march 3rd he was like jake look at this i was like what what the hell like why did you make that he's like it's april fool's day coming yeah yeah i think there's some people that would go for it let me see that picture they would but the price on those oh i know it's just i know it does look cool though okay so a little bit of the specs right let's give you a rundown the virtual specs 28 millimeter 28.5 um moderate knurling uh handle on the back you got abec abec nine stray dog logo wheels on the front there's two beverage holders that are going to be insulated

with like a yeti style like a yeti style thing in there. Oh, of course. And then there was, uh, it was going to have a custom, like custom, uh, board on the front with like a logo or whatever on there. Yeah. It looks really cool. Like it looks 70 pounds. Is that actually what it would weigh? Yeah. Cause like the rendering program knows how much steel weighs and so it just is like, Oh yeah, that was, that was 70 pounds. It's pretty crazy.

Yeah. Those rendering programs are insane. All it's like, sometimes you get fooled by like, I don't even know if that's real. Dude, you guys, what you need to do,

you need to do a contest for these as a giveaway. People would go nuts for that. You should do that. Make one set that you're going to give the one and only actually we actually okay this is pretty funny one of our salesmen he just started in november or no in january so he's he's new and uh he sold a pair of them like on accident kind of yeah yeah yeah he sold a pair to this high school the coach was like, we got some extra money. I think that would be kind of cool for the kids to have.

And we were like, so we might be making a pair. We'll see if it happens. Have to get the real photos out there, then. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's good marketing. Oh, absolutely. That's funny.

I think we've got to continue our game. We're getting sidetracked. Oh, absolutely. That's funny. I think we've got to continue our game or get sidetracked. So overrated or underrated? Tech in the gym. Like tech in the gym space.

And I'm talking about like... In the equipment? Yeah, tech in the equipment. Things that have apps in them. Like tonal is a big brand out there. Personally, overrated. I don't see the need unless you're in the smallest space. You have to work out in your closet, I guess is a good idea. But if you have a garage, I don't really see the need.

Half the fun of the thing is throwing the stuff around, isn't it? Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. Obviously there's some people that are bought into, it's like, Oh, there's a bar and now there's more weights on it. Like,

isn't that the goal? Like as many weights on it. They don't. Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I don't know. I don't see an old video of myself.

How am I going to know what I was looking? What am I going to do? Like, right. Yeah. How do I even post that on Instagram? Yeah. How does that work?

Make it a more aggressive face while staring at the box on the wall? That is a good point. Okay. Overrated or underrated? Oops. Did we lose him?

Did we lose him? Geez. Oh, here he's back. Big Jake, are you back? Oh. I'm plugging one stander. I'm plugging back in. Okay.

Okay, can you hear us? I think you're right about asking that question. Okay, yeah. So we're no strange... We're quite the equipment manufacturers ourselves over here. I don't know if you're how aware you are of it, but we've got an attachment of our own pretty serious stuff. So overrated or underrated, the drink spotter.

I think the drink spotter is a little underrated. I think I can't believe nobody thought of it before. That's what I think. I showed my dad that, and he was like, that's smart. Good. He would know. He's got years of experience. That's funny.

That's what Dave Tate knew nothing about it. And Sam Brown, we sent it to him, and he had Dave Tate open it on his podcast and got kind of his live reaction and he opened it up and he goes you know he kind of laughed of course which should you know be a common response but he's kind of like actually that's not a bad idea you know that's I think that's what he said like actually that's kind of a good idea or you know kind of just that same reaction that people get or people are like oh that's stupid who would waste money on that but that's yeah i can't believe i didn't come see you guys at the

arnold i was walking around i just i don't know what happened it never never happened well we'll be there next year again so you have to so yeah we were set up in the education portion we had like a rack for like demonstrations there was different like strength coaches giving like like press deadlift back squat mobility like where where at where is that then where are you talking about it's like up on the you know that like weird head thing with production different people's heads on there yeah it's like right by there oh like yeah so when you walk in right to the left there's that hallway and like if you walk far enough there's an escalator and we turn on that escalator yeah and then there'd be that head yeah yeah yeah yeah there was a company called muscle feast they're in uh they're over

here in in the in our area in newark ohio and they they kind of put that on and they asked us if we wanted to like bring our equipment we were like sure yeah um that you might have seen me carrying a rack through the yeah it was time. Okay, that head thing is weird. Every year I notice it. Yeah, that head thing is weird. It's kind of creepy. It's been there for a while. I'm from Columbus. I've seen that.

It's been there for a couple years at least. Were you aware of the drink spotter before just his last couple weeks of us talking to you? Had you seen that before ever? Oh, of course. Okay, good. Just wanted to make sure. I don't think there's much on Instagram I don't see. I don't think there is.

I really don't. You found the end of Instagram? Yeah, my phone tells me to stop. There's nothing to refresh. It's all been done. Yeah, literally. Okay, so this is the last overrated, underrated. And you did say you did some wrestling before.

Yeah. This is based on maybe a different type of wrestling. And you are Stray Dog, of course. So what we're going to ask is overrated or underrated the NWO Wolf Pack I was like I don't yeah I figured that would be a stretch so I'm thinking we've done a couple other

so did you wrestle like in high school then is that what you were kind of saying yeah i wrestled like growing up and i quit after like sophomore year because i played three sports and there was no time to lift okay how about overrated or underrated Brock Lesnar? Brock Lesnar? Definitely underrated. Okay. He's a South Dakota guy also. Yeah. Do you know who Mark Coleman is?

I don't know if I do. I don't think so. He's the reason they made the UFC headbutt illegal. Because that dude won like three titles by just knocking people with his face against their forehead. Pretty crazy. titles by just knocking people with his face against their forehead pretty crazy anyways i like grew up like getting a little bit of like dimming like uh lester m in columbus a couple times okay it was interesting okay yeah did he ever headbutt you at all or no no thankfully i stayed i stayed clear of that i looked him up after the first time that we i had an instruction

with him i had no idea who he was and I was like oh shit this is dangerous yeah good news it looks like the results are in and you passed overrated underrated oh there we go and that's what really matters yeah so tell us

the guest spot on here. Yep. Cool. Yep. Yep. So we, usually the format is we talk, you know, we, we, uh, shoot the shit back and forth for about 30 minutes and then we talk with someone for about 30 minutes and then we, we hang up on you and we talk about you when you're not on the line and then you,

so you've got to wait until a Monday to Monday to, uh, find out what we said. Makes sense. Uh, yeah. So where, where else, like, what else do people need to know about, uh, stray dog and, you know, where do they find you? Any of that stuff? Yeah. Um, so the main thing to know about, um, our e-commerce store, stray dog strength.com, it pretty much has everything you need to know. Uh, shipping info, like it calculates directly to your house. Even like Iraq, you can go on there

and buy like our most expensive ATR. It's like $17,000. I'll ship it right to your house. If you want, people should buy a few of them all the time. Yeah. By two, three. Yeah. Yeah. By two, three at a time. No big deal. have uh some ambassador codes so if you support uh you know your different ambassadors i've got most of the big players signed up so you can find their codes um support them always like to give shout outs to the guys who support me uh kurt locker yeah big kurt adam from garage gym labs yep we Yep. We're fans of Adam too. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Matt Pendergraft.

Yep. Garage Gym Experiment. All those guys. Yep. Shout out to them. We enjoy all of the content from all of those guys. Yeah, definitely. The main thing that people need to know about is the

ATR system. So if you're not familiar with that, basically what it is, it's half of a half rack. So it's two uprights and two cross members bolted together. And you can get it in a plane, just a frame. You can get it in a cable column, a lat pulldown, a lat pulldown low row, or a belt squat lat pulldown combo. And the cool thing about that is you can connect them together at 43 inches and you make a rack. So you can have two cable columns and make a functional trainer rack 43 inches. Right, right.

All in one. Or you can have a 72-inch connected one with some dumbbell storage trays in the back, and then you have a functional trainer. So the ATR system is like making your own. You can buy any one of our parts like individually and it's all modular. It all bolts together. So unlike some of the other companies where they like weld their frames and stuff, all of our stuff is bolt together. So if you ever want to change it and modify it, you can. So it's kind of like Burger King where you can have it your way.

Maybe it's more like talking about thinking outside the bun actually. your way. Maybe it's more like talking about thinking outside the bun actually. Awesome. Yeah. Uh, awesome. Well, that's good stuff. We appreciate you coming on. And I think this was fun and people are going to, going to really enjoy it. And, uh, hopefully we get to see in Columbus this next year. Yeah. I hope I get to see you down there. That'd be awesome. I'm expecting to have a booth this year in the regular X in the regular expo and have like a little rack set up and everything So excellent. Excellent. Yeah, maybe you'll catch me wearing the lift shorts. Maybe That's really making a statement there people know you might high roller. Yeah, they might pair well with this trade on shirt You have to do a collab sometime there. There we go. I think we could figure something out there

Okay, good stuff. Thanks, Jake. All right. Good to see you. Thanks, Jake. Cool beans! Cool beans! Cool beans! I didn't know. That was climactic

whether you're going to give him the cool beans. Trying to get the button here. Tommy, are you really not going to give him the cool beans. Trying to get the button here, you know. I was like, is Tommy really not going to give him the cool beans? Only deliver one beans? Yeah. It's like, wow, he's been a really hard critic on this. Yeah, geez, that's tough. Decided, you know, with the supply chain issue,

with everything going on, you can't just give out beans. We only got so many cool beans to deliver here. It's a bean ration. No, that was cool beans. That was. Stray dog strength. They got some really cool, innovative things going on actually yep and i think uh you know i guess as someone that buys equipment i do think more about supporting some you know sometimes some of the companies

that aren't like the five the half a billion dollars outside of companies that are multiple hundreds of millions of dollars and right because that's just less yeah i don't know i mean i also don't have a problem buying some things from some of those companies and stuff too because but there's also cool to know that there's other options that exist right that's to know that you're not stuck with like three big companies you have to buy everything from that's and like these companies and it's not just all of these companies ripping each other off like you actually have right other companies that are family-owned smaller and doing cool innovative things yeah like that's fun to support that it's like uh buddy caps making a barbell down in texas or grant brogy

you know making plates uh out in california in a of cases, these people are doing it better than the people with essentially unlimited budgets, you know? Yeah, exactly. What's not to love about that? It's cool beans. Very cool beans.

this, I wanted to, uh, the segment is called, I get Tommy's reaction to a meme. I just made live on air. So I mean, get really black. Yeah. It was this, it was this in here. You, that was the meme. called i get tommy's reaction to a meme i just made live on air so i'm getting really blind yeah it was this it was i said here you that was the meme you just told me that and like i don't get

to see anything no no this is the this i made this today and i just thought huh that's funny all right here we go i haven't proofread it i guess so just in case it's uh i like it i like it am i supposed to read it out loud yeah yeah it'll be posted by then i guess i think what would maybe even maybe even take it up a notch would be like if there was like maybe some flowers watermarked that's a good idea yeah just like really yeah yeah yeah it says yeah i'm about to go to war on the barbell and it's what do you call those like an acrostic or whatever where where the art where you know it? Where the first letter is... Yeah, so it says, yeah, I'm about to go to war on the barbell.

And then it's war going down. And so W, the first letter, walk up to the bar calmly. A, ask a pal for a spot. R, remember to have fun. I like that. I finished that. I'm like, yeah, I like... I do like that.

I do like the idea of like maybe because this is over the background of flying Ryan squatting, you know, maybe just like the background is just like floral or just a field of flowers. Right. That's maybe that's even funny. That actually is probably I think that would be better. Yeah. Just because it doesn't make any sense. Or it's like some just like hippies dancing in a field somewhere. Right, right. Those are all pictures we could find.

That would be great. Yeah. Ask a pal for a spot. Remember to have fun. I feel like that's a good mass. Like that really is a good mass. And that just right there shows it'll get 400 likes. That's why I'm like.

I'm like, I think this is great. It's going to take, yeah, this is some of my finest work. I can't wait to see this do miserably. I can't wait to feel just like total rejection for like eight hours. All right.

Come up with the, until we have something that's not quite so highbrow, I guess. Got to dumb it down over here. Sumo deadlifts are dumb all right uh something something sumo trend angry let's see we hit most of the highlights right you know one thing i didn't hit you with yet today that i wanted to though what could that be juggernaut ai a little uh application that uh you and i both use ourselves um juggernaut ai we've got a discount app is what the kids call it now an application

yes i like to i don't need all these abbreviations i use applications yes i'm an adult it's funny like that's where app just doesn't this doesn't even feel like an abbreviation does it it's just fully replaced the word like people nobody says an application the application store what am i applying for uh we do have a discount code with uh juggernaut ai it's massonomics m-a-s-s-e-n-o-m-i-c-s and that'll save you 10 on the full lifetime of your membership and you might be asking why would i sign up for juggernaut ai and i might tell you why the hell would you first thing don't ask stupid questions just do what we tell you you big dummies go sign up it's gonna be a lot easier if you just listen you go you go sign up first and

then maybe we'll answer some of your questions once you're once you're getting juggernaut ai but actually um it's a program that we both use and like and several of our members at massonomics gym use it and and like it too and have found good success and um there's not only that thousands of other people have used it that's true success with it but the ones at massonomics gym are really the important ones actually yeah they're the ones that really matter but it's really customizable um you can utilize you depending on how you you know a lot of people i know train in different ways and like have these different preferences that they've developed over time like i train around a lot of people that have trained for a long time like i they know what lifts they like right ones they don't like right they know what ones hurt they don't feel good yes they know what ones give them a pump they know which ones they just don't feel comfortable doing yeah so it's kind of funny how

like like say a handful of us at the gym that are all using it like we all have different preferences in those ways but yet we're all using the same app and we're all able to do it in a way that we can make progress and like still, you know, and like that keeps us wanting to come back. So that's kind of a, the biggest asset is some of that customizable. You don't get a blanket template saying,

all right, right. Here's your front squats, go do them. And then it's a, beyond that, it's like the adjusting that it does, like based on how you're feeling and like all these other factors like

you're not it's not the end of the world if you have a bad day it almost the longer you think about it it's like this really is a marathon marathon a bad day it like if you really think about it's like that is almost meaningless it's like like it doesn't even matter that i drop in the bucket right right it is a drop in the bucket right uh and the the flip side, you know, you have to think about great days. That's, you know, it's like, it's more so piecing together this stuff over long periods of time. And that's kind of what's great about the app too, is it tracking everything for you.

So it's just so easy to see what you've done on these lifts and where you're going. That's where I also like the logbook because I've never done RPE-based training before. And now it can get a little confusing trying to remember all of your RPEs at what weight, at what sets. You just hit the logbook right there, boom, it gives you all of your RPE, your history for that exercise with everything.

And it's like, damn, okay, this does kind of take some of the guesswork out of what this number is supposed to be and how I felt the last time I was doing this. Yep, absolutely. So all of those are the reasons why you should go sign up at juggernaut ai uh get the juggernaut ai app application discount code massonomics save yourself 10 massonomics 10 lifetime of your program we'll be back and then um was there anyone else we had was it uh marat did we hear from marat yet no we haven't but i think we should mr chikris.

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like the chocolate chips and the cookie. Yeah, that's true. Like a cookie with not that many chocolate chips. It's like a really big cookie. It's not 1,000 chips delicious. And you're like, wow, they didn't put enough chocolate chips in this cookie. But it's still a cookie, so it's pretty good. And it's like well-made. They could just use more chocolate chips.

Someone needs to get some more of those in there. Yeah, it's like not burnt. Like, wow, someone really knew what they were doing with this. Do you want your cookie to be very soft and just a real soft cookie? Or do you want a hard, crunchy cookie? I prefer a soft over a crunchy. I mean, I like all cookies. I enjoy a cookie.

But I would pick soft over hard in this case. I feel like that's what a lot of people would say maybe. Why were you going to say hard? I thought you were, maybe you were setting yourself up to say you would pick a hard crumbly cookie. Part of it, I think the antagonistic attitude in me wants to say that maybe I like a hard crunchy one better. Because you're not going to like go to a bakery and be like, the hardest, crumbliest cookie. Everyone's like, no, it's the softest, moistest, gooeyest cookie. But I feel like some people like the hard, that's a style.

What if I tell you you can't dunk it in any milk? You just got to eat it dry and hard and crumbly. It's like eating dust. The dustiest cookie you'll ever have. do you think a cookie can be too soft oh yeah i can i what about like those like when you can't even hold it it's falling apart okay softened what about this it are these good the chewy chips ahoy cookies are those is that good is that food well is that food because that's almost not food we're already talking about cookies right right the food designations already pretty loose here uh i mean that stuff it's it has

that you know artificial manufactured process thing going on yeah it's been a long time since i've had a chewy chips oh you know what i'm talking about exactly though right the chewy chips ahoy they're really like you could just grab one you could grab five and mush them up into a perfect maybe i don't know then yeah i don't know if i've had that they're really like oh i don't think i've had that yeah okay i'm probably gonna go get some of these and figure this out now you know regular chips ahoy are crunchy yeah yeah like they snap they would snap right yeah and they crumble yeah they would snap and crumble they have a snap yeah um i didn't know there was ones that were that soft yeah you can literally call them up i think i don't know i almost need to buy them to test if my i also

have not had one in a very long time but i think you could ball them up and there wouldn't be crumbling yeah i gotta get there would be molding. Like I picture it like Play-Doh. If you took five Play-Doh made cookies, you could almost turn it into this homogenous ball that you could again, make it a new cookies. And it would just, there'd be no like deterioration of integrity. It's like you drop one.

You just push the other, you pick it up by pushing the other one onto it. Yeah. Yes. It's like a salamander that grows his tail back that's what chewy chips ahoy cookies are i'm really curious about these now i might be like way over exaggerating what i think they are and it's just like uh you know chewy chips ahoy cookie are a caricature of themselves i kind of hope you're right because this sounds really

interesting to be let down when it's like no it's just like a normal cookie actually I mean I think that's the question for someone is do you prefer a regular chips ahoy cookie or the chewy chips well but even like girl scout cookies you could say are all crumbly hard cookies you know I think they are but it is kind of like that consider that a different type of cookie you know like that's not the cookie someone's cooking up in their kitchen yeah so the conversation we're having before is a chocolate chip cookie, basically. Do you want that to be soft? This crumbly, fall apart thing.

But then that style cookie, like a Girl Scout cookie. Is a much more processed item. Right. And I like those a lot too, though. But I think of that as a different type of. That's not like a homemade item to me. Or like the Oreo is is uh right and the oreos i love oreos too yeah they're super like i don't i don't ever crave this stuff like i'm never sitting at home like oh i want that so bad right but i am the person that if they if they'll show up in our house i kind of just have

to eat them all yeah and it really bugs me because yeah it's like i just it's almost like a chore it's like this has to just be done because if this isn't done then i'm just going to keep thinking about it we have a decent amount of that not like an overly large amount of that stuff around but a decent amount because of the kids and oh my god that's i never had any of that stuff around and then you get a wife and kids are like oh right like the number of sugary carbs in her house just like so much just it grows by the day yeah for sure and i really don't eat any of it because i eat a lot of the other you know but not to say i don't like it i could oh it's if i had no um inhibitions or like um or if you just felt like

really really going for it i could eat a sleeve of oreos and i mean i'd feel gross afterwards but i could do it and enjoy it while i'm doing it and there was a time in my life when I could definitely would do that but I don't do like it's also why I don't even really eat one Oreo then because I'm like yeah like then it's like yeah this does taste pretty good I could eat a sleeve of these and not think twice and it's like

well I just had like a thousand calories of nothing you're like Ben Stiller in dodgeball when he's holding the pizza is that what it is I can't remember. Yeah. Yeah. He's got like the clamps, like electric clamps on his nipples or something.

And it's like, yeah, you want that, don't you? So that's in that Dodgeball. Okay. That's not in. It's not heavyweight. Okay. But I'm sure there's a very similar heavyweights because that's kind of the same.

It's the same. It's really the same character almost, isn't it? It is. I was going to say along those lines of things that I didn't realize how good they were because I'm not five. So I haven't bought these in forever. Dude.

Teddy grams are pretty damn good. Cause it falls in that line where it's not so sweet. Right. Cause you could eat like four Oreos and really like them and be like, okay, that was sweet enough. I've right. Yeah grams teddy grams you can just like just go to like you get a handful of them and you just start going and it's sweet but not so sweet that it makes you say i'm done and they're good man you know what's a funny thing i think of like

what separates teddy grams from like a cereal why couldn't you just dump a bowl of teddy grams and dump milk on it i'm like because nobody does that really expensive cereal okay they are really expensive well i think cereal is expensive too well yeah i'm assuming yeah i buy them and i don't even look at the price on them ever but i'm assuming that little tiny box of teddy grams cost the same amount as that big box of cereal yeah so i guess what about just a straight up graham cracker i also did not realize how good those are either until and i didn't realize that they make flavors of those yeah like you can get there's like chocolate there's like honey and chocolate and all that stuff i never went down that aisle when i started having kids and now i go down that aisle a lot

and graham crackers are pretty damn good because they fall in that same that same line of it's sweet so it kind of satisfies yeah but it's not like it's not so sweet that it's overpowering so you're like oh i could just eat a whole whole package of these things you know what the one downfall of the graham cracker though is in my opinion it's crumbly well it is crumbly but it gets stuck in your teeth it's like fills your molars yeah i kind of like it's really a molar filler i mean it's not like It's like fills your molars. Yeah. I kind of, yeah. It's really a molar filler. I mean, it's not like it's like a Snickers bar or anything. True.

Could be worse along those lines. True. Oreos are pretty bad. If you ever eat an Oreo, it could be a lunch tooth filler. And then you're like, oh, I got to run to a meeting.

And then you look, you're like, whoa, it looks like I don't have teeth in the back because everything's black. Yeah. It looks like I eat dirt. Don't mind me.

I was just eating my dirt lunch. Yeah. But we do. I don't know if we've discussed this before, but Oreo really isn't the original. You know, Oreo is the knockoff of the, what is it? Hydrox. Am I saying it? Maybe we've never talked about it before.

And I might have to name a little bit wrong. I got to check. I have the name a little bit wrong, I think. Or is it? No, it is Hydrox. I have it right. Yeah. Hydrox is the brand name for a cream-filled chocolate sandwich cookie

currently owned and manufactured by Leaf Brands. It debuted in the United States in 1908. Wow. Let's see. Is Hydrox the original cookie? This says the similar Oreo cookie introduced in 1912 is an imitation of the original Hydrox. Interesting, isn't it?

So you never have heard that before? No, never. Oreo is the imitation of the Hydrox isn't it so you never have heard that before no yeah oreo is the imitation of the hydrox what an awful name oh the worst name the the downfall of hydrox had to be that the name they're called hydrox like is this cookie made of bleach it sounds very chemical yeah yeah not something that you'd want to eat or appetizing this reminds me i was now is as good a time as any. I was going to ask you this at some point. We're really on specific time.

Well, with Oreos, I did really, I did really, Oreo has become, I've really enjoyed Oreos lately. It's become one of my favorite, you know, Blizzard. Oh, right. Down the street here, Twister flavor. Okay, yeah. Just works well. But do you know how many flavors of Oreo

that have been released there are? Like ever? I think it's ever, yeah. I bet it's a lot. Would 50 be too many? That is not enough. 100? That's too many.

Oh, okay. Somewhere like 75? A little more. 80? A little more. 85? This says 85 plus, so you're pretty close yeah so maybe there was a hundred maybe uh yeah but i'm looking through here it's 5 000 it's just 85 plus and some of these flavors are just like well yeah i knew that was a flavor but then other ones

i can't honestly tell reading this if this is true or not. When it says Kraft Wasabi Oreos, Hot Chicken Wing Oreos, like those just sound dumb to me. Well, that's ridiculous. I would never buy them. That's maybe marketing and stuff. I'm getting these two. I don't know that I want any of the other,

like I don't know if I'm going to have an Oreo that I actually want anything other than the original. Well, so are you like original or double stuff? I don't like double stuff. Have you seen the Mega Stuff ones? I don't like that at all. I don or i don't like double stuff have you seen the mega stuff one i don't like that at all i don't have a problem with double stuff that's too much the ratios are all often i think the ratio on the original is good i don't yeah i don't have a problem with it have you ever had the the birthday cake i actually don't like the cream part of it that well i like

i mean i i don't want that maybe like i'm like i don't even know what that is that i'm eating at that point i'm like this is like a regular, right? It doesn't be cold ever. It doesn't go bad. I had a birthday cake one recently and I was surprised with how good those were. That,

that shocked me. That'd probably be my second favorite one I've ever had. This might require some Googling to find out the details on this, but speaking of blizzards or ice cream with things in them and mixed up, I'm Googling something real quick to see if this is a common thing because I think it is. All right. Can you put some music on?

Yeah, yeah. Here, let me. Here we go. That's my Googling music. Tanner's Googling something. Okay. Got it? Okay. All right right this is conflicting so do you think if chocolate is cold and frozen

it tastes better or not see i think it's one of those things uh kind of like alcohol or coffee where the the temperature changes the flavor of it yeah Yeah. Cause it affects your ability to taste it. What? Right. Exactly. And like what I've heard people say, like putting like chips of chocolate into ice cream. Some people don't like it because you, it actually makes it, you can't taste the chocolate when it's frozen. So it's like a waste because you can't take,

you can't even taste it. I like chocolate a lot. Yeah. And I do not like chocolate a lot yeah and i do not like chocolate chips in my ice cream right i just don't think that that works as well like i think i think oreos work great in there uh-huh and that wouldn't be that oreos you could maybe say a chocolate but i'm actually talking like yeah just pieces of chocolate i don't like like chocolate i don't think it gets too hard and, I feel like when chocolate is frozen,

it doesn't have the same taste. It doesn't quite do the melt in your mouth thing. Right. So that's what I Googled. Can you taste chocolate when it's frozen? The real question is how much does it change it probably. But it's funny, the first thing that comes up is any kind of chocolate candy tastes better after it's frozen. It slows you down while you eat it

so you can really appreciate each bite and as the chocolate defrosts in your mouth the flavor changes i feel like that's if you have a piece of like if it's small like usually when it's ground up in the stuff it's small you just chomp it and go like you never really taste it like yeah if someone gave you a chocolate bar and it's frozen you got to take your time with that yeah but it's like when you have a beer that's super super cold it does not taste the same as when that's warmed up slightly and you can now taste the flavor a little bit or coffee that's way too hot you don't actually really taste that the same way as you do if this bring the

temperature down a little bit and now you can actually hold it in your mouth for more than a split second i think what we probably need to do at some point in time though is have the official taste off of the regular Chips Ahoy versus the chewy Chips Ahoy NC, which is a better cookie. Because... Yeah, I think that needs to happen next week. I think that solves some debate. I really want to know what the consistency of this actual

chewy Chips Ahoy cookie is. I could be way off. It would be amazing if it was actually that sticky, but it would also be amazing if it wasn't at all. Yeah, right. Because in my mind, the more I'm thinking about it, I'm like, it's almost, it's just like a log of rock that they just slice up into pieces.

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