Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 323: Travis Roberts of Obsidian Ammonia

Episode Date: June 13, 2022

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Thanks for what you do with your podcasts and all the rest. You're doing a great job. I hope everybody keeps tuning in. You get a lot of good info, a lot of insights, understandings on how to get strong, how to stay strong, how to use your strength. You do a great job, dude. You make things better than they are in real life, I think.

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block now okay and man for squats just going from sets of eight to sets of six well we're on week nine week nine yep just dropping off those two reps on squat it's like a it's like a whole new exercise all of a sudden and i'm on my second consecutive strength block so you're living the life over there yep it's uh it was pretty refreshing to leave the gym and not feel like i died under sets of eight so what do you what are your sets of squats that i did i did six sets of six okay the old infamous six six by six they maybe only got better as they went that's a good feeling that is a good was it um it wasn't a top set day it was well it had a top set and it then it but it didn't back it down a whole lot and then by the time i got to the end i was almost back to my top set again

it kept adding on good i like i when that happened i mean it kind of sucks but you're because in my head i'm like you know basically back to where i started the last set but it feels pretty good you know something's going good when that happens though i've had that same same thing happen before too and plus for me the strength block are now in the strength phase here it's uh switched up the exercises a little bit more it's moved some things around so that's always fun too is yes after eight weeks where it is not it you know you got to have some consistency to see some some growth but then to switch up what exercise you're doing on what days makes the days a little fresher you know yeah but the hypertrophy blocks you know they're not that enjoyable for me either but at the same time then it's like well i do dislike this and i won't do it on my own without so i'm

like there's probably value here i used to think five sets of five kind of suck yeah six sets of six i'm like oh this is great relaxation that's changed my perspective in a hurry. Yeah, for sure. I had an interesting trip over here today. You did? Yeah. By interesting, I mean bad. You're kind of a ball magnet. That's true.

My pickup has a nose for getting smashed by balls. So you live on a golf course. I do, yeah. I'm one straight over. I'm actually between two but yeah right yes i'm kind of a block away from two different ones yeah so i and i drive by kind of drive by a different one on yeah like the one on the that's on the other side of you i drive by that to get here each day and it's the only road you can take to get to my house unless you're

gonna go like around right outside of town so here's the scenario i'm driving over here you know we i come about an hour before we start recording so we're talking 7 30 p.m yep and um i'm not being an unattentive driver but i'm just kind of in a relaxed uh you know oh it's a very wide road there's like no traffic it's you know it's pretty low-key and then no exaggeration it sounded like a bomb went off inside of my pickup was it like stone cold entered in the glass broke yes yes it was like that and i it uh i decelerated immediately pulled over the side of the road as i'm like gathering what just happened here and i really i don't know at one moment i realized what happened but uh I remembered I'm right next to the golf course and a golf ball had struck the uh passenger side of my front windshield

towards the top and it like pretty much pretty much like I actually have not looked at it very much yes if the very very top of the windshield like like another inch and it would have just hit the roof of your car yeah but in it completely like spider webbed my entire windshield and where I actually have not looked at it very much. Yes. If the very, very top of the windshield, like, like another inch and it would have just hit the roof of your car. Yeah. But in it completely like spider webbed my entire windshield and where the golf, there is a golf ball size in there where I'm pretty sure like if you took your thumb and mashed it, it'll just push right through.

Yeah. Like it's the, you know, it turned the glass right there to powder and the whole rest of it is just is shattered. You know, it'll only get worse obviously too. But like, I think now it wouldn't be a watertight i'd be surprised if you know it's very bad and um so i pull over and i remember i met this golf course i've golfed there before i'm not much of a golfer we've talked about that but i've golfed on this golf course i know this is hole two and i've i know which direction they're going you know and i'm

like immediately realize oh yeah they're going towards the green here and they just like horribly sliced a ball i guess if you're uh right-handed oh it was a slice it was a slice for sure yeah i guess if you were left-handed would it also be or that would be a hook it'd be a hook yeah so i'm assuming it's a right-handed golfer it would be a slice a bad one yeah very bad and so i stop and there's this fence there's a little walkway there and a fence in between and there's a foursome of golfers driving up and i they're gonna like drive on by me and i stop walking up to this fence and i go you missed like i yell that so to make, very loud. So they hear it and they kind of like, like, oh, what?

And I'm like, you missed. You hit my pickup. My windshield's shattered. You know, like I'm like referencing to my pickup. But you almost think they had to have heard it. Oh, they knew. They 100% knew exactly. There's no way they, and like they,

because I, you know, dramatically stopped when that happened because I didn't, I, for a split second, I didn't know if I ran someone over or i you know dramatically stopped when that happened because i didn't i for a split second i didn't know if i ran someone over or you know because it was it was very loud and uh they eventually come over to me after a little bit of signaling and like like no no we're let's talk about this yeah like they definitely wanted to not talk about it and i definitely wanted to talk about it and um before I could really say anything well they come over I'm like you smashed my windshield clean in on my pickup you know like as if it was

not obvious that this is what we were talking about and the one guy comes up to me like just across the chain link fence he goes we're not legally responsible for that and I said what about morally responsible and then he said um it wasn't actually me that hit it. So he's like, he's maybe a little more, I don't know that outgoing is the word, but he was like, he's apparently the leader of the group. Right. He's the leader of the group. And maybe kind of taking over for this guy that did the hitting that didn't want to,

you know, discuss. And I'm not like yelling at them, but I'm also like, not cool, not super cool about it either. You know, like it's a scenario,

it's kind of a pain in the ass. Yeah. Extra steps that have to take place. Yes. And, um, the one guy goes, it was me that did it.

And, and he's like, uh, and I go, okay, so what should we do? And he's like, um, should we exchange information then?

I'm like, yeah, we should exchange information. So I got his number and said, I'll text you right now. You've got my number. Here it is. And then he goes, well, maybe the clubhouse will do something about it. And I said, I don't care who will do something about it, but I do expect that someone will do something about it. And then I said, all right, we're good here.

And then they went away and they didn't really like me, I don't think. You know, it wasn't like a positive interaction. I don't have a whole lot of negative interactions in my life, which is good and I like that. But my blood pressure was, you know, way higher than on average in that moment. And it does raise an interesting question so since we've been sitting here my wife called the clubhouse i haven't talked to him yet but um they say you know it's not our responsibility not surprising they would say that yeah the golfer immediately says it's not our responsibility so i'm like whose responsibility

is it this is a city-owned golf course i'm just i'm driving on one of our larger uh it's not our responsibility so i'm like whose responsibility is it this is a city-owned golf course i'm just i'm driving on one of our larger uh it's one of the it's one of the second largest road that goes through town right and uh city road a city golf course uh in my pickup you know obeying all other rules of the road and my windshield gets smashed so one of the things i immediately go to is like i'm also a motorcyclist. What if I was riding my motorcycle and that hit me in the face? Like it would have like smashed my face in, you know, at least a part of it.

Is it just like, well, nope. It's like not our responsibility. It's golf. Everything goes. Like nobody's responsible. There's no rules. And I'm a golfer myself. But it's like golf has, what's that?

I can't, there's a term, like maybe like a Latin term when something has like compete, complete immunity or something like that. Or it's like, yeah, it's like we have no, like, yeah, this is golf.

This country golf is precedence over everything else. Yeah. Right. Right. It's above the law. Um, so that's interesting to me. The thought that like both of their reaction is that we have

no responsibility in that matter it is a very interesting one yeah it seems odd to think that you don't have any responsibility because it's like well where where is the lie then it's like is it just okay as long as there's a golf ball involved there's no responsibility it's like or is it because you're at a golf course there's no responsibility that's what i'm curious i might even be curious enough to ask a lawyer about it like what what's like why is there no yeah yeah so we can just do anything with a golf ball and just say no there's a golf ball so what then my thing we were when we were talking about i'm like what if it's a different scenario what if you're driving by an archery range and you get shot your vehicle get shot through with an yeah yeah and they can

say no you chose to drive by us you knew what road this was on you chose to go by it's not our it's not our fault that we accidentally shot into the road uh-huh yeah it's there's that's not a great example because a a bullet is always like is a lethal projectile in like certain all cases i'm trying to think of something but we even said like but we we even said you know because you also had your windshield get smashed by a baseball but you're like even then i chose the parking lot you assume a certain level of risk when you're in a whether you knew they're going to be playing baseball or not well that that's another thing but yeah but when you're in baseball parking lot, you kind of just grow up to understand like, well, in a baseball parking lot, something can happen. Right.

I guess if you get hit by a baseball in a baseball parking lot, you say, well, okay, there's a baseball field there. I'll be curious. Maybe somebody in here has some legal precedence in a matter such as this. But I was pretty, I'm pretty annoyed by it right now. How much, how much is a new windshield? So I had,

this was funny because I had just got my windshield replaced three days ago. Yeah. And I drive a car, so it's probably a little smaller and cheaper, but to get a windshield replaced in a 2009 Chevy Malibu, it was like 320 bucks, which I actually didn't think that's actually not that bad right under 500 i'm thinking that was the number i told myself when i went to go pick it

up because i didn't ask for quite ahead of time just like this just needs to happen you could have said 750 and i wouldn't have been shocked by that you know when i went in i'm just like okay if the guy says a number under 500 i'm gonna say no it's not too bad and when he said like 320 i'm like really 320 okay yeah not terrible um that's good news for the guy that hit the golf ball because I'm at the very least, you know, I mean, sure. He'll probably have the option of ignoring me and like, oh, you got to assume he's going to try really hard. Right.

Right. But I'm going to be very persistent about not letting it like at the end of the day, I'm not going to go to his house and be like with the bill and be like, you pay this or else do the big Lebowski. Right. This is what happens. Right. We live in a society with rules.

And part of it is if you smash someone else's windshield with a golf ball when they're driving by on the road, you have to take responsibility. What annoyed me so much is their immediate, like their first words out of the mouth is we're not legally responsible for that. You're on your own, man. Like, right. Yeah. It is. What would be a different? of the mouth is we're not legally responsible for that you're on your own man like right yeah it is what would be a different you know had i been parked in the golf course parking lot that's different than you're here things happen when you're here i'm like does nope and like for the

golf course they're like nope we're completely it's not our concern yeah and i i get how it's like the golf course can't take responsibility for whatever someone's doing there right right people can do a lot of dumb stuff on a golf course right um but they're also like always worried about policing what people are doing on the golf course and making sure they're not doing some so they must feel like ultimately they do have some level of responsibility for what's going on there because they're like it seems like a place like that they're always worried about what you're doing there you know yeah yeah this is we'll have to stay tuned so i mean for sure it's going to play out i'm going to have to spend the money to get my windshield replaced because i don't know that my vehicle is even like legally

i don't know i know it's like i think if you got pulled over the copy back oh no you need to get this fixed yeah there's an actual indent there with dust and glass and other things that a windshield shouldn't have. And I'm just thinking, what if a kid was driving a bicycle and the golf ball smashed him? Does the golf course then still get to say, no, we have no responsibility? Like maybe they do.

I'm not even saying that they don't. Like that seems odd to me if the all parties involved can just like completely i wash my hands sorry you shouldn't have been going down that bike path or that public uh road uh what they what does the discord have any uh important jake we're consulting our live listening discord crew to see if they have any uh big jake he said a quick google research he said i'm no lawyer uh but according to a quick google search no one is at fault and it's errant golf ball damage so who knows yeah well it does make like i wonder more like property damage is one thing but what if someone's

physically harmed they still get to be like nope that's what happens to golf yeah i don't know it's a weird role yeah i don't know yeah yeah i wish there was more comparable. There's not many activities. I guess you do where things have the possibility of going that far off of the designated. Right. Right. You know, that's what I'm trying to like. There's,

I don't think that happens often. Does it? No, not usually like the most comparable thing would be like, all right, someone hits a home run in baseball, but even then you hit a home run. It's usually like in the stands or like going like out onto a highway most of the time there's

not a road like right right up against the home right right yeah that's tricky one yeah let's see how it plays out to be part two part two maybe next week maybe next month the sequel yeah this could be a trilogy i'll probably be whatever it. I'm sure I'll be less annoyed about it. The next time I talk about it, even if they say time heals all wounds, that is, that is, I mean,

it won't technically heal your windshield. Money is the only thing that's going to heal that. But yeah, time will heal the wound of, of the golf ball. Yes. Should we drink something to cool down here? Um, yeah, we should.

This is... What's in the can? What's in the can. Yep. So I need you to put your can hat on. I'm going to do it. The blindfold is out. Tanner is slowly, slowly putting it on.

The blindfold is over the eyes. The can is coming out. I'm going to don my earmuffs again so I also can't hear what's in the can. We make Tanner have earplugs, nose plugs. We just all sense it. What are those chambers? Sensory deprivation chamber.

Yeah, that's what I meant. It's the only way to make it fair. That's the only way to truly play what's in the can. What do we got there? Well, the top makes me feel like it's a bubbly and i should say i'm like 90 sure we haven't done this before you know it's such a bat cattle i can't keep them all straight hmm oh gosh it's so hard. That's what she said. Sparkling the water bubbly.

I cannot tell what flavor this is. Nothing is coming to me. Let me try it again here. It does not taste particularly sweet or fruity to me. Okay. So I'm like, is it like one of the flower things? Like hibiscus or something like that? But I don't feel like that's... What are like less fruity...

Less fruity fruits? Right. If that makes sense. I think in the context of this game, it makes a little bit of sense. It does. I am having a hard time like Like, I don't know. Cranberry hibiscus. My guess is cranberry hibiscus.

Okay. I'm going to say right now, that's not a bad. Okay. That's not a bad. That's not a very sweet flower tasting this. I totally get where you come from with that. That's a, that's a good flavor profile. Not the correct one, but a good flavor profile uh not the correct one but a good

one very purple so it is passion fruit which might as well be cranberry yeah i guess i i don't know what a passion fruit looks like oh uh that's a tough but that's a pretty damn good guess i gotta because when you said i don't get this particularly fruity i'm like where's he going with this yeah and then when you said hibiscus i'm like ah i get it i could taste the hibiscus here you almost have to be tasting this one along with my description to really appreciate it maybe i get that floral note in there yeah and then yeah some more uh uh fruit that flies a little more under the radar cranberry hibiscus it is also known as if it was called that i wouldn, I wouldn't second guess that. If the can color was a little different.

If it was silver and red. Yep. I would probably give you four and a half stars for guessing, for flavor naming on that one. The flavor itself, maybe a three and a half. I'm going to give it a three. I'm not in love with the flavor. I mean, it's fine.

I'll be able to drink the whole thing. I can finish this one for sure. It not that that pleasing to me though it's not that pleasing of a flavor when i think of the number of things i've given a three and a half this doesn't belong there so it's a three yeah but it's a flavor is just light enough though that it's right i mean it's inoffensive it's yeah yep but not that good inoffensive but not that pleasing. Yeah. It's cold. My wife tells me the same thing. Story of my life. We had some other things to talk about here,

Tanner. I'm actually really curious. You have pizza written down. I was just thinking about this because there was a little party. We had another party. We basically party every weekend now. It does seem like it. I think it's actually been three weekends in a row partying for me.

Yeah. A little bit different kind of party. It was, yeah, we had my son's second birthday party, which was quite the rager. It was pretty fun. It was a good party.

Most of the same people were all here. A lot of the same people, whether it's a bachelor party, a wedding, a two-year-old party, it attracts the same audience most of the time. Just a few more little kids was all. There's some bouncy house action going on.

It was a good time. But I think I was talking to Ryan about it, but I think you were there too. And it's weird. So the topic of discussion is pizza. I've had it before. Yep. I have been a pizza lover for, am i 35 i can remember at least till back i was five so i've been a pizza lover for all of 30 years you know a classic staple of course

much like mini not saying anything crazy most people would say that same same thing i think and mostly any and all makes of pizza i you know liking can enjoy pizza with milk if you've been around here you know that's that would be a that is a favorite i do if i'm gonna have pizza nice glass in a glass glass of cold whole whole milk oh now that washes a slice of za down like you uh this doesn't i'm just this is not where i intend to go again just picturing it again in my head. It still doesn't quite work. That is good. Although, however, something's going on now.

Oh. I don't know. Is the flavor profile changing? Yeah. Occasionally this has happened in my life where, not related to the milk, I would still take the milk with the pizza any day. That would be my number one choice if I'm going to have pizza. Maybe ice water or milk.

I'd swap between those two but i'm liking pizza way less over the last like six months really and i don't i have no specific reason why it's just every time i get it and we eat it i get done and i'm like i didn't even eat that much i used to eat like three times as much like i'd get buy a pizza and eat the entire thing. It's like 10 pieces. Now I'll eat three slices and I'll be like, I feel sick. I'm not going to puke.

I physically feel worse than when I started. It's all the carry out pizza. Pizza Hut did it to me. Little Caesars has. Domino's has. All of it does it. The only thing that I'm liking a little better is frozen pizza, which seems weird because you would think that that is like,

generally you would say a lower grade of pizza than carryout pizza, right? I mean, yeah, most people would say that, I think. I think so, but I don't know why frozen pizza seems like less greasy to me. The first thing I was going to say was the grease. That's a big one. And I was thinking about ingredients-wise, like it's all frozen. um i don't know why frozen pizza seems like less greasy to me part of it i was gonna say it was the grease yeah that's a big one and i was thinking about ingredients wise like it's all frozen you know it's frozen ingredients but then again all the ingredients that they're using at the like how fresh yeah like they're not really fresh ingredients either are they um but i don't and i i don't have an explanation for this but it doesn't it's starting to get to not even sound

good to me way less often. Like it used to be when I was 25, I could never say no to pizza. No, I can eat pizza like every other night, eat a whole pizza and be like, well, that was awesome.

Like, let's do it again later this week. And now I just, um, I don't experience it. And it's not that I hate it. I just, it's like,

now I'm kind of like where I'm like, I could have it like once a month. And even then sometimes I get done and think, I would have liked it better to have had something different. Like my just usual ground beef and rice or chicken and rice. Like I'm like, I, that tastes almost just as good to me.

And I feel a lot better when I get done eating it. And it's not like a moral, it's not at all like a nutritional or moral thing it's literally just the way that it's uh um just making me feel i i do know what you're saying i do know what you're saying so i i like pizza a lot yeah i mean i could still mentally want to eat pizza like every other day but the thing stopping me well one just because that's not good for you but right the next thing stopping me is like what you're saying, where I can get that feeling sometimes.

Well, I do like, I, my digestive system is just getting shittier as I get older. I mean, maybe that's just what happens. Hashtag masters. Maybe this is what happens.

There is, uh, there is definitely times where I could eat a bunch of pizza and then even later that day or the next day, it's like, Oh no. Like, it's just like, I'm like sick from that hell cometh it's just not good and i don't know if that is the grease factor or if it is just all of those like carbs and all that other shit like mixed together and it just it just doesn't sit right but um i know what you're saying

and with that being said we ordered extra dominoes and i've ate dominoes for like four straight days now yeah and i've been good i think you got to train your body there could be something to that you shock the system and you don't give it a break ever yeah uh because i've been i actually decided i can't eat any more of the dog like it has to go away i've had too much of it so i don't know i've been or maybe dominoes just sits better and like something like pizza hut or like little Caesar's doesn't, I don't, I don't know what it was,

but yeah, I agree. Frozen pizza. I feel like I'd never have a problem with frozen pizza, like frozen pizza. Yeah. Like, it's just like,

it's the crust is usually super thin. Maybe that's also part of it is it's just so much lighter in general. Then you're eating way less crust, but I even like DiGiorno and it's not delivery. It's DiGiorno. I haven't had one yet. I got it. Still got to get it done. I think Di it i think di giorno is is pretty good i don't know i did see it in our freezer we have a di giorno thin crust okay i don't know how that got there but i did buy it

my wife must you just have to know going into it it's not delivery it's di giorno actually one of my favorite pizzas right now is uh so papa murphy's take it like you know they have this uh i think it's thai chicken or like either way it's like chicken thai and it's a sweet chili sauce get that on thin crust it's so damn good i could just i i could eat almost a whole one like the family size i can go nuts on that yeah it's so good the one thing uh i would note that i've i think uh like maybe because when i was young people are making fun of us for pizza well okay they're making fun of us for not having any good pizza choices oh i'm like well i get we have other but this is kind of what i'm talking about like this is when you're just at a party this is the most common pizza like i'm not i'm

not like uh i don't want to always buy a $20 pizza either, too. Because we have a couple. There are several mom and pop shops in town that do pizza, and they're good. They're very good. One of them has a drive-up window. You can get pizza by the slice, and it's good. And there's several restaurants that offer pizza, homemade pizza options. So those do exist.

But that's a little bit more of a special thing. Right, yeah. You don't just randomly show up someone, there's like 20 boxes of those sitting around but i'm kind of wondering if in in a someone's given lifespan that they can just oh they just have a threshold of a certain uh thing like that i started so young eating so much pizza that i just got to a point where it's like now i need something different and if it's kind of like the red sauce pizza that gets to me more that like really like the other stuff that i never used to eat that much of it now seems a little bit better to me because i never used to eat it

if i'm going nuts like i want to eat a lot of pizza the other sauce has grossed me out way faster than like a red sauce yeah but along these lines though i still don't get because you're how how many eggs you eat every morning how many years you've been doing that tanner i eat uh depending on what's going on either either you six you eat every morning? How many years have you been doing that, Tanner? I eat, depending on what's going on, either six or eight a morning. Every morning? Yeah. Scrambled style? Yeah.

Like ham and cheese in them? Or what are you just straight up eggs? So what I've been doing for years and years and years, my breakfast is, and we've talked about this years ago. But if you haven't been listening for a really long time, you don't know this. It'll bring you up to speed here. So I do this every morning without break almost seven days a week yeah seven uh out of 365 days a year probably 360 x days you know like

and that's not an exaggeration only i mean the only exception is if we're on the road eating and then i but then usually we're at a hotel and i kind of try and match i kind of do the replacement this but so i'll eat six eggs scrambled with uh shredded cheese on top then um three slices of bacon in some combination of turkey bacon and regular pig bacon like we call it pig bacon because my four-year-old you know it's like does she want turkey bacon or the other one is called pig bacon at this so it's kind of fun to say pig bacon it's redundant but we like to do that uh so usually the usual mix is two slices of turkey bacon and one slice of pig bacon in the pan i fry it i set the slice of pig bacon in the center and one slice of turkey on each side so that way when it fries the turkey bacon both fries in a little bit of the pig bacon grease flavor it gets the flavor and some of that

grease soaked up into it to make it taste better and that does actually make it taste better on the turkey bacon and then i have a cup of oats you know made into oatmeal with i don't know probably like it ends up being like two or three tablespoons of chunky peanut butter, a scoop of chocolate of some sort, Fusion Sports Performance whey protein, and then about a cup of fruit in it, whether it's blueberries, raspberries, or strawberries.

Most commonly strawberries because they're the easiest to get around here most seasons but sometimes blueberries and raspberries are in better season and i get those and then a big old glass of water no milk i do not have milk for breakfast normally i would like i do like it and i not against it but i just can't no i just i i i'm always wanting to start the day out with a big uh serving of water so i don't not a bad idea so that's why i do that and occasionally a small glass of orange juice with it and i do that every day so yeah and so where i was going with this is i man i go through like eggs get tough for me like i have to switch them up and i've learned that i have to switch them up and lately the thing that I have to switch them up. And lately the thing that's been saving me,

cause there's just, there'll be a day where it's like, I just do like three eggs, three scrambled eggs. And there'll be a day where I'm like three bites in. I'm like, Nope, can't do it.

Literally can't swallow. Like it just grosses me out thinking of this egg in my mouth. And I think I make pretty decent eggs. I think they taste good, but I'm just like, Nope, just the idea of eggs is disgusting. So what I've been doing lately, I'm like, I got to do something different.

And I'd never made omelets. And so now I've been on an omelet kick lately. And all of a sudden it's like, ooh, this is a whole new world of eggs here. But now I'm about a month and a half into omelets and they're pretty damn good. My boy's on board with it. He's eating omelets with me. And all of a sudden today I was kind of like where i was just devouring them now i'm kind of slowing down and i'm sort of like thinking about it yeah yeah and it's just

like i don't know i might be hitting the end of the road here again so maybe a change up is required or yeah either that or it's like uh i'll just have pancakes a couple times so then it goes from like having eggs like five days a week to having eggs only like two or three days a week yeah and usually like a week or two of that it kind of resets it's like there's these levels and it like brings the level back down right so i can i can start hitting the eggs again but i gotta give you props i don't know how you never ever get tired of it it's just because i like i think i honestly just like them so but 10 years ago i would have said that about pizza that i could so maybe there will maybe this day is out there when i'm like oh something happened i flipped a switch eggs but as uh the time is

i could eat and sometimes most of the times we we have a well-prepared supper meal at our house every once in a while when we don't and i just you know left my own druthers and left my own devices to figure something out for myself sometimes i'll just straight up make eggs again but at night a lot of times when i make eggs just because the scrambled eggs is my breakfast thing like just so i don't feel like it throws it whacks out my day if i'm having those at night yeah i'll just have fried eggs at night you know and that's my other one. I got to mix it up. It's like, all right, we'll do sunny side up and toast just to get some variety. Or sunny side up with a meat and you can mix things up now.

But yeah, eggs are always a challenge. Yeah, I'm lucky in the way. I mean, if you want. It's great because in the lifting world, eggs are always a great source of protein. They are. Especially macro-wise. Get a few eggs, a couple other things in. Damn, your protein is so good for the day. world you know eggs are always a great source of protein they are you know that especially macro wise get a few eggs a couple other things in damn your protein's good for the day plenty of

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This is a special supporting our supporting members segment also. And you might all be asking yourself, what's so special about this one? Well, hold on, that's a cliffhanger. First, I want to just tell you about the segment in general. It's a relatively new segment to the Masonomics podcast.

We have these supporting members. They choose to support the Masonomics podcast. And if you want to do that too, you can hop on our website. There's several different levels of support that you can choose. And all of them come with awesome perks, like being able to join our Masonomics Discord community where you can listen live each week to the Masonomics podcast.

You can also just get in on the action. There's several threads in there going all the time. A lot of discussion about training. For any interest you might have. Yeah, a lot of silly goose stuff. It's a fun time in there. And then there's a discount code available when you sign up.

We also randomly might send you something like this last month we sent out the uh mass atomic supporting member membership cards and we have other things planned for the future that are along that line so i would say get signed up now so you don't miss out on the next cool thing like that that we do that kind of cover that memberships? So each week we like to give back to this group of people specifically a little bit. And you're still asking yourself because I never answered. Why is this a special version of supporting our supporting members? It's special because it's ladies night.

Oh. It's ladies night. It's ladies night. Ladies night on supporting our supporting members. And topic number one or you know first supporter is um so does this mean like every wednesday's ladies night or just tonight is ladies night tonight is ladies night uh the rest i mean it'd be weird because we'd never get to support the men because we always almost always do this on ladies night uh wednesday night but okay so strong

man dan he got married so it's not really about him it's about his wife she was the real winner in this like she got to marry strongman dan so uh congratulations to strongman dan and most importantly his wife huge congratulations sir yes we got to meet dan at uh the arnold this year i got to tell him he's got a lot of cool arm tattoos and someday i wish i had cool arm tattoos like him i told i had a cool arm tattoos like him i told him that there and that still is as true today as it was then next uh supporting member is hannah johnson and she competed in a meet uh i think it was earlier this month but it fits in the great in the theme of ladies night oh yeah

she did a 303 squat a 165 bench and a 342 deadlift and one best female lifter all right at her meet um next one is uh the first lady of north dakota which would be candace coats candace coats okay i now know that now we know yeah dylan Dylan told me for the fourth time it's Coates and I thought to myself, I don't know that I've ever heard that. If I have, it's never registered to me. I think we assumed it was Coates, didn't we?

Yeah, Coates. It makes sense to me though phonetically one vowel there that it would be. I just don't even use the phonetic argument because not especially names but it does kind of make sense if you think about it in that way uh candace she competed uh full meat and did a 264 squat a 165 bench a 303 deadlift for a 732 total which are all four prs for her does not get better than that yep last one is today today

is big eddie's wife's birthday so happy birthday to big eddie's wife happy birthday big yeah so that was ladies night on supporting our supporting members pretty good uh yeah that was fun hopefully there's more of those yeah that's a good i like it when there could be a theme to the supporting our support members yeah that's really cool all right uh by discord see ya see ya discord all right and anyone that was disagreeing that um someone else but besides me should be responsible for my windshields. We'll be kicked off the Discord. We'll have their memberships suspended. Anyone that doesn't agree with me on that, they're dead to me. Okay.

Big Travis, should we give him a call? Let's do it. Let's get that. Actually, we're giving him a FaceTime audio. Yeah, let's get that phone call across the border here. I hope so. He can run, but he can't hide from us forever this could ring all night long we got all night travis make our day all right i'm gonna give it a pause okay and then we will try him back in just a couple minutes he doesn't realize a golf

ball hit your windshield you have nothing to lose at this point. You don't mess with a guy with nothing to lose. That's how serious of a situation he is. He thinks he's safe in Canada. Sometimes it is good to put things into perspective though. That joke is a good lesson that in the moment things can really annoy you.

But in perspective, you're like, yeah, it's really not that big of a deal. Like if it cost me $300 at the end of the day or $400 or even $500, I'm like, well, nobody was hurt. But then the kicker would be like, oh, yeah, then you got to get your windshield replaced. I'm like, actually, there's a thing with Chevy trucks right now. It's like $1,000. You can't get a windshield for those right now.

Yeah, that's – We have to pay a really – I had a car with a heads-up display and at one time and i had to get i was going to get that replaced and like yeah that's actually like double the heads-up display or the windshield because there's it was in a grand prix so that the windshield actually plays a part in that yeah there was something about it i don't know what or how significant or maybe it was just they were just giving me a line well actually when i was there when i got it the guy was like i told him like god that's not bad he's like yeah you'd be uh you'd be shocked though i've just uh changed and went out on a subaru he goes because they have like a heated windshield and all that stuff he's like that's well over a thousand dollars maybe that maybe it was heated when maybe it was more

so heated windshield and stuff too and i yeah you know I'm trying to recall 15 years in the past, but it had heads up display. And that's what I'm thinking about. Maybe it was more so heated windshield. Yeah, it could be. But that would suck way more. Yeah. Should we try Travis again?

Yeah. And if he doesn't call us back. We'll just have to think of another fun story to go another 30 seconds. Every time we'll think of all these broken up stories. Continue with another little tidbit after that. We did have something else, too, we didn't really get to, and we could save this for, but, you know, there was a big power lifting action going on right now, too.

This is a great podcasting exercise to just think of fun topics. I have something else we would even talk about good radio going rather than we'll try them again the fact that he didn't call back though concerns me that he might not answer immediately right now hello oh big travis is that you it sure sure is. How's it going, guys? Great. You're live on the podcast with Tanner and Tommy. Hey, Travis. Fantastic.

Hey, Tommy. We are excited to get you on. Oh, absolutely. It's been a minute, hasn't it? If I remember back, we haven't seen you since the Arnold this year, if I remember correctly. That is correct. I don't think we've crossed paths since then but no not you guys haven't been around really

we've just been so busy we haven't made it to canada like we typically do understandable we we were glad we got to meet you though this year at the arnold and um the funny story about that is i i mean i don't want to put your words in your mouth, Tommy, but I for sure didn't remember exactly what you look, you know, didn't either know or remember exactly what you look like. So when you walked up the first time I thought you were someone else. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think prior to the Arnold, I really put myself out there on Instagram too much. So it was a mystery for everyone. As a matter of fact, you were wearing a Depth Before Dishonor shirt.

And I also hadn't met those guys in person before. And I thought you were Jared, right? Yeah. I thought you were Jared. Because their booth was just down the way and you were kind of walking that direction. And'm like ah this guy's wearing the depth of fortis on a shirt like i'm pretty sure that guy's like you know a guy that lifts with a beard and stuff so like and is that like the best list you go jared you're like and no travis and i'm like oh yeah yeah egg on my face yeah it was nice and awkward yeah that's how we like it

that's right. But it did turn out you weren't Jared and you are Travis and you don't own Depth of Fortison or you own Obsidian Pneumonia. Exactly. So part of the first, you know, we don't always go over the origin story, but with a business, it's always interesting. Sure. Curious, like, I think we know, you know, you can go more into this, but you, at the time, were working in, you know, a regular, you know,

a different full-time job, and this was a side thing. But how did you first get, what was your first motivation to even start in the SALTS game? Well, to roll it back, I think it was 2017-ish when I got into powerlifting. That was after about five years of just general training in the gym, kettlebells, barbell, that stuff. Yeah, I got into powerlifting, found out about Smelling Salts. And at the time in Canada, there was only one other brand. So I figured there was a gap in the market and after trying that brand I wasn't entirely sure what to expect from

smelling salts but I figured I could probably do it myself uh so a little bit of research and uh chemistry and away we go uh I got a first formula going and started kind of passing it out to friends and other competitors and the response was fantastic. So that just kind of snowballed into me meeting Jordy from Bacon and Barbells. He introduced me to a couple of the local meat directors and I started going to some of the EPC meets up here in Ontario, Canada, where I kind of got to know a few lifters and other vendors and stuff like that and kind of got to see behind the scenes stuff with powerlifting and setting up the meets and stuff. So it was very interesting to me. And from there, knowing full well that I was

never going to be an elite competitor, I wanted to contribute. Aren't we all, right? Need membership cards for this one. So from there, I just kind of wanted to give back to the lifting community however I could and be involved the best way I could and I guess that was kind of quietly doing something I guess behind the scenes with a product as opposed to like setting up meets or anything like that and it's just kind of gotten popular organically over the past few years, largely through just social media. That's my, just like you guys,

it's my primary marketing tool. And here we are now, essentially, just growing yearly. Yeah, Obsidian Ammonia is, it feels like to me it's everywhere in the lifting community at this point. Yeah, that's what I always think too. Like I, I mean, we've always said it said like we feel like obsidian is the ammonia company right

well i've i tried right off the hop i tried to start sponsoring as many meets as possible and getting the product out to as many athletes as i could uh just you know hitting them in the dms asking if they want to try them um and same sponsorships, just kind of reaching out to whoever I saw, starting putting on a meet to see if I could get my product into the hands of whoever was going to be there. And it's been received very, very well across the board. And from there, I've kind of grown into doing custom bottles for meets, like the hybrid and ghost meets this year. Showdown meet two years running now.

I know that's not a thing this year, but yeah, it's been a great experience. And in terms of the business side of things, I knew fuck all going into this about business. So setting up a business, getting it registered and all that stuff and like making it work while also being involved in a full-time job outside of it was definitely a challenge but in the early years it was just a fun side project right right and then as it grew it's taken up more and more time to the point where i was putting in 60 to 80 plus hours a week between my two jobs just to maintain it. And a lot of fun. I love it. I wouldn't change it for anything at this point. You're saying it wasn't passive income?

No, not quite. Parts of it can be, but for the most part, no, it's very active. A lot of people think with these things, it's like, oh, no, you just make like three Instagram posts and then you sell your stuff and you're done. Yeah. No, that's not how that works at all. Yeah, absolutely.

There's no production at all. It's there. The product just magically shows up. It was fun. It is fun. The product just magically shows up. Yeah, it was fun. It is fun.

Like whenever we get to meet someone in person and talk to them about stuff like that, that's also operating in the same space. And we talk about stuff and like, granted, you know, we're not making smelling salts. Of course we're doing other different stuff, but like through the conversation, you're immediately like, Oh, I feel like we're on the same level. Like we understand like going through the same stuff all the time. The same Instagram problems, the same supply problems,

the same customer service problems. Oh, exactly. Yeah. Exactly. It's very easy to relate on a small business level to stuff like this, for sure. Yeah. Trying to explain it to anybody else and just do the blank stare, right?

Yeah. And it has become your full-time gig though uh at some point in time you got to make that transition which is awesome okay yeah absolutely um now i will admit my hand was a little forced because of the pandemic uh with everything i made the choice yeah with everything going on it just wasn't working out at work so uh i uh decided to just hang up a 10-year career in engineering to pursue this full-time so rather than uh you know the pandemic eliminated my job so i said fuck it and let's lean right into this uh and it was the probably the best decision i've made ever in terms of my

employment yeah uh yeah it's going on well almost two years now actually yeah yeah this november it'll be two years and that's what yeah we were trying to remember because so tanner was like i think travis said he was a graphic designer i like, I'm pretty sure he's an engineer. And I'm like, yeah, wait a second. You are right. We could have been in a loud restaurant.

Yeah. Yeah. Like a bar. So I might've misheard that, but okay. So it was engineer, but the lines though, because we've,

and we were talking about this again tonight is like your design skills are so far like ahead of not only other, everyone else in the salt game but also people in just most a lot of games most of the games in general yeah um and so i know you were explaining this to with the arnold but like explain to us how you got up to speed on like design because how you do it all yourself correct you know like all the stuff yeah people are buying what they see that's by your hand right uh like 99% of all the artwork and labels and everything, and 100% of everything that's on Instagram is all my doing. I started in graphic design and web design back in high school, so that would be like 1997-ish when I started that. Yeah. So I'm, I'm exactly, I'm old as fuck. Uh, and, uh, uh, I started, you know, like I said, graphic design, web design, very straightforward,

just like you see today, the very, uh, basic minimalist graphics is kind of what I like and, basic minimalist graphics is kind of what I like and, um, what I I'm decent at designing, I guess. Um, but truthfully, a lot of my graphic design skills came from, uh, uh, the internet, uh, back in the day, uh, I used to be really into MMA. So around 2009 or so, that was when Joe Rogan started his podcast. So I already knew about Joe, kind of started getting into the podcast right away and discovered that he had a forum online. And now, I don't know, do you want the PG version or the explicit? I don't know what this all entails about but i explicitly not off the table okay so um essentially i learned photoshop on joe rogan's web forum okay uh like in depth i knew it

on a basic level but i got really good at it when i started putting dicks in joe rogan's mouth okay yeah that makes any sense yeah yeah i didn't know that part of it really good at it when I started putting dicks in Joe Rogan's mouth. Okay. Great. Yeah. I didn't know that part of it. I'm glad we went with that version of the story. Yeah. Yeah. That's the short version. So the web form is a very wild place. It's shut down now. You cannot find it. And for good reason, um, with everything going on especially around joe rogan yeah he he took it down five years ago i think it was uh for good like i said for good reason

but uh a lot of that was just like distasteful meats and stuff like that so um and like i said a large portion of it was uh was dicks and um, seemed to be the popular thing at the time. And that's where I cut my, does it ever really go out of style though? I guess, I guess not. It's kind of tight. I don't know how much, yeah. And I don't know how much Joe appreciated it, but, uh, it was out there. Was he active in that forum then?

Like in some, he was, he was he active in that yeah forum then like in some he was okay he was yeah fairly active but again it tapered off with uh his schedule kind of blowing up with the podcast and everything right so i i think at that point he just lost control and the moderators that were kind of keeping it in check but it just went off the deep end real quick especially with the podcast blowing up like the influx of people i think in the i think i was only active on it for about two and a half years and i saw about a quarter million people join wow that wasn't yeah yeah very very uh i couldn't only imagine uh what his discord would be like oh my god just be pretty crazy yeah a cess A cesspool. It's like, I think just go on Twitter. Yeah.

So that was, so you're mostly self-taught, uh, essentially then, right? Yeah. Yeah. Like I went to college for it,

but that was like already after I kind of had experience. So I went into it and I actually dropped out after a year because I was bored. Uh, the basics, when they're teaching you the basics, it's the real basics. And I'm going to spend $10,000 to sit there for eight months and learn what I already know.

It kind of sucked. So I just said, well, I can do this freelance already. And that's kind of what I went and did right from there was get some freelance work in. And then I found a job in tech support, which was fantastic. And then was it after that you became an engineer? Is that how that worked? Yeah. I left that job to go back to college where I took an electrical engineering course and then kind of built a career from there.

Interesting. kind of built a career from there interesting well you're i mean i already said it but he's the one with the eye for it but i've always your design is on point though we've if we had a nickel for every time we've said that you know it's just like um and like you're you're i don't want to diminish the product you're selling also but like i don't know in my opinion if your design wasn't so awesome you wouldn't be doing as successful as you're even with the good product like um i think that's a big that's a big differentiator well especially when you're marketing on instagram it's such a visual medium yeah yeah yeah you gotta stand for sure and like we we say it too with our stuff like you know

we're a two-man operation here but like especially in the early days, I think people thought we were bigger than we were because we had better designs than most. And I think the same thing probably applies to you. People probably think you're a lot bigger company than what you are because of how polished your stuff is. Absolutely, without question. It's kind of a catch-22. You want your product to look fantastic. And that was my end goal was like, I want to see this on shelves.

I had a decent eye for, uh, for packaging design already. Um, it's something that I've, I'm a sucker for good packaging when it, when it comes to unboxing something, I don't film it,

but I, yeah, I appreciate it. Like if someone's put time into a product, I, I've always appreciated that as a graphic designer. And I wanted my product to show the same thing. So I've always put all kinds of detail into it whenever I could.

And again, that was something that I felt was missing in the industry to like to kind of make them a little more professional to smelling salts. Like you look at original nose torque, that's a straight printed label. Somebody printing that on a laser jet and slapping that thing on white bottles, man.

That's very basic. It gets the job done. Um, but again, that's the other angle that I have is that I'm only using, uh, a reagent grade or like ab grade, if you will,

products or materials in my salts so purity and consistency is uh is very important to me uh and then combine that with proper marketing that i just like to have a lot of fun with i keep it as ridiculous as i can just because I'll lose interest otherwise. Yeah. Yeah. And I want people to look at the product and know that they're buying something of quality. And at a glance, packaging is kind of what tells you that, I think. There's other great products on the market, but I feel like mine is kind of a step above just because of that aspect of it and you do a good job not only design but also i'm assuming you have some fun with the uh product naming process as well oh yeah yeah no question and then if you look across the labels little easter eggs kind of yeah they're just ridiculousness whenever I can. Yeah, we love that stuff. That's kind of what makes it to me.

I think that that is the stuff that matters. For sure, for sure. You've got to enjoy the product from start to finish. If you're only going to enjoy it when it's under your nose, then maybe it's not the best product on the market. How often do you get high on your own supply? Well, I was waiting for you guys, and I took a few rips. So frequently.

Daily? Pretty much, especially when I'm testing a new product, like these little inhalers that I've got going on right now. I've had those things up my nose six times a day, just making sure that they're working still. You know, I get a little paranoid when I'm putting out a new product. I know I've tested it for weeks, but now these are the ones that are being sold to people. So I need to make sure that those ones are good.

Yeah. So, okay. So yeah. So tell us about that one though, because yeah, we've seen all the, all the images and the marketing you have for that one. Yeah. So that's the latest one uh that one i've been kicking it around for a while i just wasn't sure how long they would last uh i know that it's just pretty standard product like you can buy the vicks nasal inhaler there's all kinds of other ones i think there was one called the boom boom stick uh which was on dragon's den, but they're just like fragrance. So it's just like different essential oils or what have you that will kind of wake you up or do whatever. It's not ammonia like we want.

So I guess here's another exclusive from Masonomics. These. Yeah, yeah yeah here we go these little inhalers they were designed to mimic ampules ampules have officially been retired by james alexander oh they have so and those are yeah all you power lifters for people that don't know those are the single use like crush smell and toss it, right? Exactly. All the ones that you see hockey players, football players using, the ones that you break, sniff, and chuck to the ground. So what was it, early 2020, there was something called the SAFE Act rolled out across the US,

which reclassified smelling salts or these ammonia inhalants as a non-medical product, I guess. And that, in turn, resulted in James Alexander then having to go through all the paperwork and registration process to get them back into production and to be able to sell them again. And was James Alexander the company that was making these? Yes. So James Alexander is the company that was making these? Yes. So James Alexander is the patent owner of the packaging. That little package that you have the glass inside,

wrapped in some type of absorbent, almost fiberglass-healing outer shell, that's their product. They make a variety of things in that package, with smelling salts or ammonia inhalants being probably their most popular one but because of this change in regulation they have decided to discontinue the product so knowing this uh i thought okay we've got to figure out how we can get these back like there's no way that i'd be able to set up a production facility to make these it requires like a glass blowing system and all this other fancy shit that i can't afford on an ammonia dealer's salary so

so the next best thing i thought i would check these things out and see what I can do with them. So combined with my nose bleach, the super absorbent polymer that I use to hold the high grade ammonia. I've got a bit of that in there as long as well as a little more ammonia in the cotton swab thing. And right now it's, they hit like a champ. Like they're, they're fantastic.

If you like ampules, you will love these. I will say they only last about a week or two with frequent use, but they're $10 a piece. Up here in Canada, a 10-pack of ampules was $12. Right. It works out. You get more sniffs per buck with the inhaler.

I will say that. It's convenient. Nothing pops into your pocket. You don't even know it's, it, it works out. You get more sniffs per buck with the inhaler. I will say that. Uh, and it's convenient. Like that thing pops into your pocket and you don't even know it's there. So, uh, it's kind of, kind of aimed towards more than just power lifting. Uh, I'm hoping to see this in the NHL. Exactly. Yeah. Actually just sent some down to be pitcher for the Phillies as well.

Ah, nice. He reached out to me. So one of the pitchers. The other week we had Coe Keeft on the podcast. He's down at Buccaneers training camp. Maybe we should get some sent his way. I'm sure he'd love to have a sniff or two. Yeah, get those passed around in the locker room.

Yeah, baseball is really picking them up right now. Absolutely. If we can connect that connection, I'd love to send some down. I would think the NFL would go nuts. Like if you look at the sideline, those things are everywhere for football. So I guess there's two takeaways.

One is that if you have any ampules left, you got to really, one, you're sitting on an extinct product. So you got to be really careful about when you use those. And then two is you need to get the uh what did you what'd you say it's called it's just the nose bleach inhaler the nose bleach inhaler okay so then yeah the second part is people just need to get the nose bleach inhaler then yeah that's your safe bet right there um so what what uh out of all the uh ammonia products that you've ever made, what is your personal favorite?

Or is that like picking a favorite child sort of scenario? That's like a fat alley. Kind of. But I think, let's see. This one in particular, the inhaler is definitely new. It's different. It's never been done before. So I think this one's kind of inhaler is definitely new it's different it's never been done before uh so i think this one's kind of topping my list right now um but other ones like nitro i got to include some 3d printing in that uh and the packaging's fun it's got the little uh

centrifuge vial attack the side of it i love the nitro we've got that sitting in our chalk bowl right now at massomics Gym. Yeah. And that one's bubblegum scented. So that one's fantastic. I love that. But I think I always come back to the menthol version of Hype Dust. That was my original formula, the Hype Dust formula. And then the menthol addition to it was, it's the one that I can use regularly without just crying all the time. So,

uh, yeah, it's, uh, it's, it's nice. It's, uh,

it was also designed to replicate the strength of ampoules. It's made out of ammonium carbonate. So it's kind of like old school smelling salts, like Victorian era smelling salts would have been made from, uh, ammonium carbonate, uh, along with like a bit of alcohol or vinegar and

some other scents like lavender. They did a mint back then and a couple other scents as well. So it's kind of old-fashioned, if you will. So you're saying that ammonia has been used in a medical sense for quite a while now then? Oh, absolutely. In the 1800s was when it started getting used and for the most part it was to prevent fainting and it was women wearing corsets that was causing them to faint so they would carry this decorative little glass and uh and uh silver uh what was it called uh

i can't remember the name of it come to me But it was basically a little vial full of smelling salts. And, uh, you know, if they were feeling lightheaded, they could just grab it and give a little sniff and away they go on their course of the way. Yeah.

Corsets were like the original shapewear. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Everything. Yeah. Yeah. Uh uh and from there you know they were used by um uh the saint john's ambulance in the war to for you know soldiers and stuff like that so they've been around for hundreds of years i've actually got a few old style smelling salts here i kind of collect the old shit as well

just kind of i like collect like is it in a bottle and like it still does work or is it just the bottle um no i have the bottle with the salt in it has a very slight uh ammonia smell but more more lavender in it and it's made by a company called crown smelling salts. They're all over the place. It's probably one of the oldest companies to make a bottled one. And then I also have some old original ampoules as well, which were just literal glass files filled with ammonia and alcohol wrapped in cloth that you literally just break. And the instructions on them actually recommend breaking it open,

mixing it in a cup of water and drinking it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So people used to be crazy. No question. Yeah. So seeing the old stuff is seeing the old stuff's pretty interesting as well

to see how far it's come. Like from those types of ampoules to the James Alexander ones to now the bottled stuff that everyone's making. It's definitely come a long way. There really is a lot more to it than what would be on the surface. Isn't there? I had no idea. Yeah,

there definitely is. And when you're kind of an OCD nerd like myself, you really take it in. Yeah. Like I, I started talking to, um, I can't remember his handle off the top of my head. Uh, vintage weights on Instagram. Yeah. I, uh, I sent him some pictures. He actually just did a little video. Yes. He did a little, uh,

YouTube video covering the bottle buddy and ammonia. And I sent him some of the pictures of my, uh, my, from my collection that he used in the video. Uh, so he was very interested as well, kind of a historian and, uh, went down that rabbit hole after I talked to him. So it's a, it's an interesting one for sure. Like it's, it's a drug, but it's not a drug. Uh, according to the FDA, that's another story, the FDA found my product. And they're telling me that it's an unlabeled or mislabeled over-the-counter drug. And they're, yeah, so I'm trying to sort that out right now to figure out how that's going to affect. And is the FDA just a United States? Yeah, because I was also curious, how does that work?

Well, I'm importing to the U.S., right? So I distribute to a strength shop. Yeah, yeah. So anything coming in, UPS, they have their customs division, and every once in a while they'll pull a package. I think in this case it was based on value. It was going down to a strength shop, so it was a high-value shipment. And the FDA decided to hold it to investigate it fully

i try to do my best with all the paperwork when i'm sending it across the border i labeled it as ammonium chloride which is the primary ingredient and they still took issue with the fact that it was called smelling salts and are insisting you know they're insisting that that is because i don't have all the proper drug labeling on my stuff. They're considering it a mislabeled drug, and I have to return the shit back to Canada. I can't send it through. So it's a bit of a delay. But on the other side of things, I actually was speaking with Lance from Cerberus Canada.

They make smelling salts as well. They import them from the UK. That's where all Cerberus salts are made. So he was importing his supply to Canada along with a bunch of other goods, and he got the same thing from Health Canada. It was stopped. They pulled those items, and they're telling them they're drugs. So something has changed recently with international shipping of smelling salts. And I'm personally going to roll this back and go full circle and blame it on Joe Rogan.

Oh, right, right, right. Yeah, that's actually nice. Yeah, yeah. Seven months ago, he had Rob Kearney on the podcast and they got into smelling salts and then they ordered a bottle from Jujy, who I met at the Arnold. Fantastic guy. It was an interesting meeting. And he popularized smelling salts like no one else could. Joe Rogan by having him on. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Like the moment Rob Kearney was on, I saw a spike in Amazon sales. That was before Joe even sniffed them. That was just him talking about smelling salts.

Everyone went out to fucking buy smelling salts. Yeah. And I'm in Canada. So nobody else in Canada, like I had the, I guess the highest quality on Amazon at the time. I don't know. I sold out. I couldn't keep them in stock for geez from October through December. It was hard to keep Amazon stocked at all. But when he actually sniffed them on the, on the show,

that's when things went crazy, like straight to the website, everything started picking up like crazy. And like I said, I'm now blaming him for this FDA shit. The good and the bad along with that, I guess. What about all the people that are just not transporting it from country to country, but all the people selling it within

the United States now smelling salts? Would they be subject to the same issue then, wouldn't they? Yes and no. I think if the FDA was to discover their products, perhaps there might be an issue. Maybe you'll have to

pass a little note to the FDA and be like, hey, I'm not the only one. Yeah, exactly. Is that ratting on people? I won't go that far. Make a deal. Let mine through. I've got names. Yeah.

So at this point, I'm not entirely sure how. I almost feel like I've got the contact information now for the guy. I've spoken with him. I pled my case with it being a small business and powerlifting and even the whole fact that it's WADA approved even, essentially, because there's no drugs in it. But they still think it's drugs.

Simply based on the fact that it's called smelling salts. Because smelling salts to them, if they look it up in the FDA book, are either a prescription or over-the-counter drug it's just old stuff that's hung on for so long i mean that brings up the question if you just didn't refer to them as smelling salts would that be okay then or not well that's what i said i i had referred to them as ammonium chloride, and they still pulled it and opened it. Okay, yeah. Yeah, so I think, yeah, and if you're familiar with poppers at all, back in the day, amyl nitrate is the substance, which is also a product that James Alexander makes.

They make those amyl nitrate ampoules. In the UK, they're illegal. Yeah, weren't people like... What are they or what do they do? It's a vasodilator. Yeah, it helps relax muscles. And like having sex with these things and everything? Yeah, they're very popular in certain communities, that's for sure.

I don't know if it's the Discord community or not, but it's definitely some community. It's also a very active community. Yeah. Yeah. So those products in the UK are completely illegal and they now sell them as room odorizers with instructions on the bottle. They look just like smelling salts.

If you look up poppers on Google Images, you'll just see all these little tiny bottles with interesting names. But they're all just called room odorizers, and you're designed to just open the bottle and let it odorize the room. Don't hold it under your nose and sniff it. Is there a winking emoji on the bottle? Don't do that. I think so.

Yes. Yeah. It's one of those little hidden things in the bottom corner. Like, yeah. So there are ways around it. If you want to be shady. I think I figured it out.

Like my UK distributor actually imports them as miscellaneous sporting goods, essentially. And there's a proper tariff code and everything for it. And we've dialed it in over the past few years to where he doesn't have any issues. DHL still likes to poke around a little bit inside, but it's never a massive delay that, you know, in this case, it's a month that it's just been sitting there with the FDA. So there are ways around it. I think we're just going to have to be sneaky. And if you could delete this part of the podcast

and the FDA doesn't hear it, that would be fantastic. No guarantees. Yeah, no. Just every order must include a shirt. And that's what's going to be shipped. That's it, yeah. Yeah, to be shipped. That's it. Yeah. Yeah.

That makes sense. That's interesting. It's just, just another bump in the road, right? I got to figure it out and keep moving. Yep. It's your only option,

right? That's the name of the game. Pack up shop. Yeah. So when you say with everything going on, there's a lot of things going on. Oh, there's a lot of things going on. You, there's a lot of things going on.

You know, the supply chain thing. That's another story too. Is there anyone that you've ever seen, any one person you can think of that you saw take a sniff of your salts or your ammonia? And when you saw that one time, you were like, wow, that is really cool. I feel like that really means something to me. Maybe you don't have an instance like that but just wondering oh absolutely uh halford jornsson yeah that was that's probably the biggest one for me and that came in that was the summer of 2019 we were on a little family vacation we rented a little tiny cottage like 45 minutes out of town just to get away and we were hanging out and one late night i got a dm

from half thor thanking me for sending a package to the gym i actually sponsor his friend, uh, Rooner. So, uh, he got the salts through to Thor. And, uh, the next thing you know, Thor is asking about a custom label. So, uh, yeah,

seeing him use the product and then making his product on top of that is, uh, it's definitely one of the big feathers in my cap from a business standpoint. And just as a general fan boy. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah.

That's, that is really cool yeah yeah like yeah like right before the 501 that's my bottle so that's uh that's pretty cool that is what i would call cool beans you could say like you almost kind of sort of lifted that 501 right yeah essentially yeah yeah i was right there he would have had like 499 pops if I wasn't with him. That's how I'd think of it. I think so too. So you are obviously a guy that's, you know, you've smelled quite a few smells in your day.

Like you're no rookie to smelling smells. So could you order these smelly smells in order from smelliest to least smelly? Baby poo, an old protein shaker, a skunk, and rotten eggs. Which of those is the smelliest? Baby poo, an old rotten protein shaker, skunk, or rotten eggs. I'm going with protein shaker. Yeah, that's deadly, I think, if it's been longer. Yeah, absolutely.

Other ones are like, you know, that's like a four. And then the protein shaker, especially if it's in the summer in a car, all bets are off. Even in a Canadian summer. Oh, absolutely. Well, they're down south, Tanner, so it's a lot warmer there. Yeah, it's actually warmer here. It's warmer there than it is here. Yeah.

Our neighbors to the south. Travis, are you familiar with this little game we like to play called Overrated Underrated? Hell yeah, I am. Great. We've got a special Big Travis Obsidian Ammonia

set of topics that we kind of handpicked just for you. Incredible. You know about the druthers, I assume, right? Of course. You've heard of them. We're kind of being coy. We know you know about the druthers.

But we've got it ready to go, so if you're ready, we'll fire right into it. Let's do it. Okay. Overrated or underrated Trailer Park Boys? Trailer Park Boys. Early seasons, underrated. Later seasons, maybe

a little overrated. I'm kind of split down the middle. As a Canadian, I did appreciate the first few seasons there, but yeah. Overall, I'm going to say underrated. We talked about that

for a couple minutes beforehand. Tommy said he hadn't seen much of it, and I've seen mostly all of them. I've seen almost none of them. The first ones were so good, and then it probably went on too long. They're bringing it back, and it wasn't the same after were so good. And then like, it probably went on too long or like they tried to bring, you know,

they're bringing it back and like, um, it wasn't the same after a certain point. Yeah, exactly. Also part of that is like, they're a victim of their own success because like part of what made that so good at the beginning is like, it was just so shitty in a way,

but that's kind of like what part of what made it, what it is, I think. Exactly. Like you almost wonder if this was like some type of uh small level documentary going into it right like right um so i agree with you if you've ever seen okay what were you gonna say though if we've ever seen oh i was going to say if you've ever seen the movie gummo oh it's similar to that it'll okay you should probably see gummo is it canadian it is bizarre no it's not okay i don't think no uh it's just a really bizarre movie it's supposed to take place after a tornado goes through some small town in Ohio. Yeah, definitely not Canadian.

And there's these weird characters that do all kinds of odd shit, but it's filmed in a way that almost seems like when the movie's starting, that it might be like real life and some really bizarre people. Kind of like that. Kind of the same vibe.

Blair Witch Project vibe kind of thing. Yeah, like the Handycam kind of quality where you're not vibe which project vibe kind of thing yeah like uh the handy cam kind of quality where you're not quite sure what you're getting into yeah okay have we talked about this on the podcast tanner i feel like there was a time where if you saw like especially when tanner and i about the same age so when we're growing up like if you saw something and it was like broadcasted on tv but it was like camcorder footage is like you know you're gonna see some shit like yeah it's like camcorder footage is like oh that's where like crazy stuff's going down you know have we ever talked about that before i don't think so but i think that that's true i think it's a good point oh yeah absolutely like you get the the

world star shake yeah like that camera like with that and the whole jackass thing and just like early internet days yeah yeah when you saw stuff on the camcorder with that shaky grainy footage yeah like you knew you were going to see something that was like yeah it could be really boring someone's getting an arm chopped off or something there yeah oh yeah like back in the day you had faces of death right that was the old vhs that made the rounds when i was in early high school that was uh just like that just shitty footage wouldn't make the cut these days yeah but that's what we had back then. That's good. Okay, overrated or underrated being a solopreneur,

or if you're not familiar with the term, what you do being an entrepreneur and running 90% to 100% of the show? Well, if you've got the right product i think it's underrated for sure yeah like it's great you get to set your own hours and uh and kind of do your own thing um you know you don work a day in your life is that true oh you just do it every fucking day 24 7 it's you just you just never work you're just busy all the time constantly Constantly. Never restful. Yeah, I've tried to get more of a work-life balance going. And I've really been able to dial in the past couple months.

So I feel much more at ease with the workload as opposed to before where I was high anxiety a lot of the time. So that part of it's overrated. But having full control over something, I think it's great if that's what you're into. But in terms of being a manager and having employees and then adding on to that and not being the solo entrepreneur anymore,

that's also kind of scary like i'm leaning toward that now with finding a space and kind of on the lookout for some real estate right now uh so i can expand things and not be crowded here and yeah that that part's a little unnerving but we'll cross that bridge when we get there do you ever feel like by working alone you're kind of missing out on all the hot corporate jargon that could be taking place behind your back? You know, I do miss the cubicle life where you get to turn. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Exactly. And finding ways to avoid them. And then you have one person that you get to talk to for eight hours next to you. I don't know, man. I guess I could go back to that, but I'd rather not to. If you're looking for a room to expand, there's good opportunities here in western northeast South Dakota. Real estate's cheap.

Oh, well, I do like the sound of cheap real estate. However, the whole moving to the U.S. and the citizenship thing might be a hassle. Don't worry about those minor details. Immigration is the most important. I heard that's not a problem at all. Yeah, exactly. I think the other option would just be to open a separate facility down there that someone else can run. So that i don't

have to deal with the importing yeah what you said is kind of a funny thing though and like it becomes more apparent to me like when we're at the when we meet together at the arnold and you guys have to worry about this whole other set of challenges even though you're much closer to where we're going than we are you have and it's weird because you know on this internet thing and like in the lifting space to me like the u.s versus canadian our customers it becomes this homogenous thing we're like i don't even think of the difference like it just feels like it's in their state right where i'm like oh and then there'll be times when i'm like oh yeah that's a different country like that's like like some surprisingly different laws right right it is a weird thing though in a space where especially like

in the lifting community that it just kind of like takes down that imaginary border until like something comes up like that it's like oh yeah you have this whole different set of challenges here yeah exactly and again thank you once again for your help with the Arnold I would not have

been able to sort that out with you guys being there to help ship my stuff back. That was an oversight on our side. You utilized the service of Big Eddie to run your booth for a while. Absolutely. Thank you, Big Eddie.

We had to do those pesky COVID tests to get back into Canada and had to take a leave from the booth and Eddie covered for us. That was fantastic. The booth didn't drop a beat. He must have watched that training video sent in because he was

hitting all the moves. I was watching him. Fantastic. The product more or less sells itself. You just got to get it under the nose. You got to have a really good salesman though. Of course, that's what it got to get it under the nose. You got to have a really good salesman though. Yeah, of course. That's what it takes to get it under the nose. Most people are like, fuck no. I don't want that.

Eddie's smooth. Yeah, he is. He is good. Okay. Overrated or underrated sour strips? Underrated. For sure. Maybe somebody doesn't know specifically what a sour strip is brand wise sour strips are the most delicious candy on the planet uh they are uh just delightful overall i i can't say anything bad about them uh i like sour candy and these hit every checkbox when it

comes to sour candy they They're not hard. They're nice and chewy. The flavors are great. And most importantly, they are really sour. So if you like sour candy and you like sour ammonia, I can hook you up with both. When we were on, my wife and I went to Miami like two months ago. And one day before we went to the beach, she's like, I got to grab a magazine to read when we're on the beach and we were in like cvs or walgreens whatever and she's like i have not read a cosmo magazine in like years so she buys a cosmo she's sitting

there reading it and one of the pages that's saying like best treats for summer and on that page they had sour strips listed as one of the best treats for summer i thought you're gonna say uh nose bleach nose bleach didn't make the best summer treats list i mean it would make a massonomics best summer right right right not in cosmo eventually we'll get to cosmo yeah yeah okay um this is next one's kind of the last topic and you know that last is always the most important. You probably are aware of that. And whether or not we even air the episode kind of comes down to this, so good luck.

Yeah, make or break. And also, I'm going to just throw an audible here based on something else you said. I'm going to say overrated or underrated Hoist Gracie. Or the Gracies, the Gracie family. I'd have to go with underrated. They made the sport. UFC 1, 2, you got the Gracies owning it with hoists. I can't say overrated on the Gracies.

There might be one or two in there that I could say overrated, like the one that put out a rap video, maybe. But for the most part no you they're a fantastic family did you ever do any you know you said you're really into it were you ever messing around with any bjj or any of that stuff at that point in time no uh i've i honestly the only thing i've really gotten into from MMA, I used to listen to the Boss Rootin boxing tapes. So I had a heavy bag and I would just listen to Boss Rootin, yell one, two, uppercut or whatever. And he had little workouts that he could do with them as well.

So hitting a heavy bag and owning some gloves is about as close as I ever came to training fighting. But the Boss Rootin workouts were also kind of my foyer into overall fitness as well so would you ever consider doing say an an ammonia celebrity boxing match against juji mufu or whoever it is that runs the the faceless nose torque maybe a royal rumble with all of you um yeah i i, I, I probably shy away from, uh, from Gigi. I would do.

Yeah. I had my hand around the man. He's thick as fuck. Yeah. Uh, and he's, he's super mobile. Like I,

I can barely touch my toes. So no, and I think he's got like 10 years on me. So like, what if there was a million dollars, a million dollar check? What did you do with them then i'd give it my all i would pull out all the stops there's the answer yeah okay so you would do it so you so

this is the first piece of the smack talk back and forth that it's going to happen exactly exactly juji if you this, let's get it together. Perfect. We'll offer the commentary. I don't know who's putting up the million bucks. That's details. Yeah, I just don't worry about that. Sponsors and stuff.

You know how it works. Yeah, yeah. All right, man. Well, this is cool is there I guess also let everyone know you know how they get your stuff anything else we talked about some of the new stuff but anything else in particular they should

be on the lookout for I know right now the latest products are out there you got the full nose bleach line now the nose bleach standard the mini the mini is the smallest bottle on the market and it's probably stronger than 90% of other bottles. It is ridiculous. So if you want a value version of nose bleach, go for that one.

But the inhaler is where it's at. The inhaler is the new thing. Absolutely grab that at Hypedust.com. You can follow me at Obsidian underscore ammonia on instagram um and if you use code mass you save 16 not 15 oh you just that's a little nugget in there i'm like trying to process these numbers right now all right so code mass code mass at checkout now accepted everywhere things are accepted even in canada exactly yeah even in canada and did we have it right that spud inc do they uh handle some stuff now too yes yeah i i met uh met spud down at the arnold and

absolutely i had to grab a few uh items of his while I had the chance down there. And he hit me up a few weeks after the Arnold wanted to grab some nose bleach. But I thought that he also ran a supplement store based on where I shipped it. I didn't expect it to be on the Spud Inc. website. And then I just kind of was doing some research and realized that it was up there so i'm like i better advertise that yeah that's cool yeah yeah absolutely no it was a fantastic and i'm hopefully uh down the road i might have um some spud ink products available here in canada oh we don't know yet that's that was very brief discussions about that stuff but we'll see where

that goes that'd be cool. Yeah, very, very, because that was what was preventing me from grabbing it. You just kind of somehow proved that they're not drugs, right? Yeah, exactly, exactly. We are a long ways out now, but if you had to guess or tentatively, would you plan on having a booth at the Arnold again next year? 100%, and we plan on bringing more people with us so that they can cover the booth

and we can wander a little bit more because we were just strapped to it. Just like you guys, we were completely strapped to the booth for the entire three days there. Well, hopefully we can manage to get in the same general location again because that makes it fun. Yeah, that was a great time. I hope more people join the party. We kind of did have a sweet group of people around there.

Absolutely. And then when they moved us six times, everybody moved. If I had a nickel for every time I messaged you and Grant and everyone else like, look what they did now. I just gave up remembering the booth number. and Grant and everyone else like, oh, look what they did now. You know? Yeah. I just gave up remembering the booth number. Like I think in some of my posts, I was actually posting the wrong booth number just because I didn't remember what it was

as I was making my posts. Like, yeah, it was a bit of a cluster getting there, but it all worked out. Yeah, it did. Awesome. Well, if we don't see you before then, we'll at least get to see you then absolutely man it was great talking to you guys hey oh and also by the way thank you for the dog

treats daniel as well oh yeah my dog loved them my son loves feeding them to the dog so it was it was all fantastic yeah everybody if you need dog treats i also sell dog treats from my wife's website or my wife's business on the website. Check them out. Pied Piper Treats on Instagram. Would Code Mass do anything for them there? I don't think so, no. Just mention that Massanomics sent you. I mean, it's worth a mention.

Yeah, just say it in the notes. Okay, yeah, that'll work. In case people are wondering, the packaging is also top-notch there. It is. I may have hand in that as well we uh we did some assuming there awesome good stuff thanks travis thanks travis all right thanks for having me guys all right see you later you do this long enough you forget what buttons are what i've someone was saying you messed almost everyone up this week.

They were saying you need to have a label maker for your... Just about do. Forgetting what they all are now. Aren't the cool beans cold? They're the blue buttons? I know. You told me that. I hit the top right one, and as soon as I hit it, I'm like, that's not the right one.

And then I got all flustered, so I hit the one below it, which isn't right. So then I get to the two blue ones. I'm losing it over here. Good to find out more about Obsidian Ammonia. Yeah. Nice to hear from Travis again. Travis is the man. We fully recommend supporting him and his company.

Awesome guy. Just couldn't really say enough good about him, I don't think, could we? Could not. And with a discount code like mass, how could you go wrong? Saving 16%. Sheesh. Can't ask for anything more than that oh and speaking of spud ink straps spud ink straps now carries uh some obsidian ammonia

products i believe they have nose bleached over there so you can also buy them there and um you could also buy some training straps from spud ink spud ink started because the lifting straps available at the time were not enough to handle the daily punishment that comes with training as a power lifter or that could easily fit in your gym bag. Sputink created their straps to withstand whatever your training puts them through.

Finally, training gear that works as hard as you do. Whether you're looking for belts, harnesses, or deadlift straps, Sputink has you covered. I would add like 50 other things that you could be looking for that they'd have you covered. Yeah, they're being very modest there. Including ammonia now. And that's at spud-inc-straps.com No discount code. Also let them know

that Massanomics sent you and you can get free shipping on all US orders. $75 or more at spud- ink desktraps.com good stuff there great stuff did we have oh damn it i was gonna ask him if he likes prefers regular chips ahoy cookie or chewy chips next guest i'll ask them yeah yeah it's Do you have a box over there too, Tanner? Oh, that's offline stuff.

Oh, okay. Good reminder for before I leave. There is an interesting there. Someone wanted us to sign their drink spotter for them. So that's what's in there is that you and I need to sign the drink spotter before it goes out. I've seen that order come through. In orange specifically. I do have an orange marker. Perfect.

So that's what's in the box. Also, there's some... What would you call that if we're getting products to just look through them and decide if we like them? Oh, some samples? There's some samples in there. We have a lot of... Not to toot our own horn,

but we got some pretty exciting stuff on the horizon here. I don't know how to say this. Like a lot of different items in the works. Like way different stuff. A lot of different items. Some that people are going to be very caught off guard by. And there's also maybe something that's been in very high demand for a very long time now that I think is still going to surprise people.

But we really got a number of different unique stuff going right now like that we haven't stuff like that we haven't done before the next couple months are gonna be crazy they are it's pretty exciting i mean a lot of things with all this have to go right yeah typically they have been going right lately so i think they should all happen yeah what could go wrong nothing going on yeah it's book it uh yeah we're we're very excited so that's one thing in there we gotta look yes we're very excited for some of the things that are coming up here though it's yeah it's gonna be really cool yeah very cool pretty pretty pretty cute i'm just gonna double check the list to see if there's any other you know super time sensitive i don't think we need to talk about mega nationals us apl or ipf worlds because we don't know it's

just kind of kicking off right now they're kind of just getting them going maybe next week we'll talk about that more if there's um something well we'll have a supporting our supporting members of some kind there for sure big jessica competing right so if there's anyone else we'll have her for sure uh-huh so yeah we will at least mention it within supporting our supporting members too bad she missed female week or women's women's night just by a week just barely miss ladies night yeah ladies night oh well yeah live and learn she'll know better next time yep plan that out better yeah uh do we have anything else to, you know? I'm going to read this ad from our friends at Swiss Link.

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would kind of part with this too, that there was also another cool box of stuff that showed up, and I can't say what it is, but I would say if you were one of the villains from the popular late 90s, early 2000s, Austin Powers trilogy, you would very much enjoy this box of goods that showed up yeah and i cannot

explain it so have you opened it and seen i and it does not disappoint all right i it is this i wasn't even talking about that and amongst this other discussion i kind of forgot about this piece right now yeah and but you know what i'm saying i know what you're talking about yeah i'm very i'm very curious to see this in person. Because we've only seen pictures so far. I give it like an A. It's so good. It is so awesome that it's just going to blow people out of the freaking water.

Okay. With looks and price. Yes, yes, yes. Cool. Yeah, I really want to see this. so stay tuned for all this wacky wild cool innovative stuff we have coming yeah the r&d department has just been crazy we've been cranking it out oh man like a team of engineers working around the clock we've really been cranking them out if you know what i mean cranking the guys over here not letting up no so but but for now

by all the rest of the stuff we have we still have the ouch uh ouch everything hurts t the two new tank tops raw power in red and bench heavy and those are both on the tri blends ultra high super duper quality tank tops and then we still have we've we've got a lot of items on sale on our sale tab go check that out sizing yeah very it is a mixed bag it's a very mixed bag but there's a lot of items there. So there's bound to be something in your size between all the items. Within the last couple of weeks, we added a whole bunch of new items there. So make sure to check out the sale tab.

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