Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 417: World's Strongest Farmer Steve Bake

Episode Date: April 1, 2024

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If you don't follow Massanomics, y'all do it. Social media, website, everything. Massanomics! everything massonomics welcome everybody to episode 417 of the massonomics podcast the lifting podcast about nothing recorded from multiple corners of the dakotas specifically the south dakota the right dakota the best dakota my name is tanner and my name is tommy tommy before we get too far into this episode i do need to do like a little i have to i have a wardrobe correction that i need to oh take care of here so okay for anyone watching on this is a good example of why you need to be watched subscribing to our youtube channel you can watch the podcast on youtube you know a lot So for anyone watching, this is a good example of why you need to be watched.

Subscribing to our YouTube channel. You can watch the podcast on YouTube. You know, a lot of people are just listeners, but the watchers are really going to be able to pick up on something here. I don't know. You can maybe hear the audio of what's going on. Should I describe what's taking place right now? Yeah, maybe. Tanner has a puffy green jacket that he's applying on. He's getting it on right now.

I just am not all that comfortable in my house unless I'm wearing an overstuffed down puffy. Well, you are in a basement. Basements can run a little cold. Having a zipper malfunction is taking longer than I don't. You don't wear jackets often, so you don't know how to run a zipper very well okay oh there we go good zipper is up all the way he is locked and loaded in that bad boy okay now i am ready to uh you're missing a beanie though your head

might get cold shoot yeah if only you were in an apparel fulfillment center. Is this better? Luckily, I keep my feathers numbered just for such an occasion. Yeah, so I just thought that this would be appropriate attire. Just a regular guy. I'm not doing anything weird. Nothing to see here. This is a totally normal thing to wear. Recording a video with a puffy jacket on.

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And this banger of an episode, episode 417. Would start off by making sure i've touched on the youtube but everyone make sure you're subscribing to our youtube channel we're putting out bangers on there every single week multiple youtube videos every week uh what was our most recent one then we did on thursday what would that have been what was the most recent one was it the boobs lady it was the boobs lady okay the world's largest boobs it's a very diverse subject subject to the range of topics we have on our on our youtube channel yeah so um check out uh that particular video with the woman with the world's largest boobs you know a little bit of a derailment from our typical

programming but i think you'll still enjoy it. I mean, we're still putting it together, so it's got our little touch of flavor on it. This week, a new one coming out is Tommy and I's favorite specialty bars. So if you're not subscribed to our YouTube channel, get subscribed to it so you can check out our new videos there every week. What's it going to be? Quite the production quality, if I don't say so myself. Yeah, a lot of money.

A whole lot of money being invested in this thing. Tens of thousands. Borderline hundreds of thousands of dollars going into the production value here. Don't even get me started on the time. Yeah. Just another piece of it. Tanner, I had a question for you. Because you're not majorly a sweets guy.

How do you feel about cheesecake? That just came up this weekend. Seriously? I've had cheesecake. I could probably count the times on one hand in my life that I've had cheesecake. For real? Because I mean, you basically said it. Number one, I'm not that big of a sweets guy.

And then to add to that, I'm actually not that big of a cheesecake guy. Although I would find it's just fine. Or I mean, it's actually good. I shouldn't say it's just fine. Cheesecake's probably really good. I just don't really eat sweets. And, you know, I am better off not eating any sweets than I am having just a little bit. Because, I don't know, it makes me want more. And then I eat too much. And then I feel, I literally, I actually feel like shit from it. Like if I had

like one large piece of cheesecake, I guarantee I'd feel like shit for like four hours from it. Yeah. Hurt so good. Yeah. So like, I guess I don't, my wife, the reason it came up is my wife just made like some really fancy cheesecake uh dessert thing it's like a it was like a turtle cheesecake yeah dessert that we took over to a party this weekend and people were raving about it and like the guys there were like oh isn't like how did you even let this make it here and i'm like oh i actually haven't had it and they're like what like it like everyone was enraged that I hadn't had it. They're trying to force me to have some.

They're trying to publicly shame you. Yeah, they're trying to force me to have some at the party. And then I was just making me even firmer in my not having any of the cheesecake. Okay. Well, you answered that question. But that being said, if there was like salami and cheese spread there, I'd be all over it. Yeah, yeah. You did answer that question about how I expected those.

Yeah. No surprises really there. That's kind of what it, yeah, that was You did answer that question about how I expected those. Yeah. No surprises, really. That's kind of what it was. Yeah, that was about the answer. If you were like, oh, I love cheesecake. I crush them. That's what would have really caught me off guard. Yeah, that would be a weird answer.

Don't bring your cheesecake around me. Yeah. It's a bad day to be a cheesecake. Before I get your answer to that, just remind me of one thing that I don't want to forget is I keep doing this thing to my wife where I keep saying, don't even like I, first of all, I typically don't even have coffee in the mornings. Like I don't wake up early and have coffee, but we've been kind of on this coffee thing, like where my wife makes coffee more frequently. And she has like a nice, you know, the same one grant has and grant and my wife will

talk about coffee making stuff and we have this group thing but i do this thing now where i always say don't even talk to me until i've had my morning coffee and i'll say it at any time any time of the day and it never makes sense and then to add to that i started uh randomly throughout the day i send her the worst dumbest most basic coffee memes you know like how all these like between coffee and wine there's unlimited of those things i'll have a sign up that says like don't even talk to me until i've had my morning coffee and i just like will google like basic coffee memes and stuff like that and i just send them all i send them all day long and i'm just really enjoying that.

She's like, shut up. You're hitting your middle-aged woman arc of humor now. Yes, yes, yes. Okay, but cheesecake. It's good, man. I know there's a factory. There is a one single factory where they pump those things out. We have some, Leah picked up some at the store

because we had some people over this weekend and then we never ate it. So that meant we had the whole thing to ourselves. And my kids were big fans of cheesecake. This morning they wanted to. Was it regular old cheesecake? It had a couple actually different flavors in it. But this morning they wanted the cheese thing for breakfast.

And they couldn't have the cheese thing for breakfast. Because you can't be having cheesecake for breakfast. But we had some tonight again. And they still love it. I always love it too. I think some people are of the opinion you shouldn't muddle up cheesecake with all the different flavoring. You know, I could understand the purist standpoint of that.

I like to just go, if I'm going to do something, actually, I can't even really talk because I'll do, I like the chocolate chips in it. I like the turtle version. I like the all-chocolate one. I don't even mind the regular if even if you want to put some fruit on it I don't have a problem with that either so I can't even speak actually like a little strawberry cheesecake or something I'll do it all cheesecake can't go wrong with that it seems really dense right it's very dense must be pretty calorically dense, I would assume, right? Yeah, that's one of the hidden benefits of it, I believe.

Yeah. Okay, there's a little bit of a controversy going on, and it has to do with last week's episode was episode 416 of the Massonomics podcast. Yes. And someone pointed out, I mean, not incorrectly, someone pointed out um i mean not incorrectly they pointed out hey wasn't that as we like to celebrate all these numbers and milestones historically at mass because there's a lot of them we have a lot of numbers of milestones in our history the thing was wasn't that the eight year anniversary and which we did for the seven, we did celebrate it by the math the same way this would be.

So what we're saying is 52 times 8 is 416. And that's what we would have been last week. But if you look, there's quite a bit of conversation about this in our Discord around when we hit the seven-year mark. And this isn't necessarily why we didn't talk about it. I just actually did forget about it. But if you look at episode one, it was published on April 19th, 2016. But episode two, then, here's the thing. Episode two is April 20th, 2016.

Episode three is four days later from that. Right, right. april 20th 2016 episode three is four days later from that right right so that's i think that is where the yeah that is confusing because if you look at yeah you're right if you look at published date well but published data three episodes in a week yeah but this one so but if you're going by published dates the first this won't publish until like april 1st kind of right uh but still that's there's a difference there of almost three weeks but i think now that i look at it it's just because in the first week oh right right yeah we weren't on the week cadence yes you're right i think that was tyler's logic as he was like oh we're gonna put we're because we

recorded a few before we published any yeah and then we were published he wanted to be so when people looked at it, the feed had a couple items in it, like it wasn't just one. And they were getting like spammed with it that first week. Like, hey, new episode, new episode, new episode. Yes, that's right. Because, yeah, that would back us up three weeks, which would put us right here.

Right. So to be fair, someone's comment around last year was, well, if you're celebrating the year, Mark mark you can't do it based on number of episodes it should be on has it been right years yeah eight years and it has not been it has not been yet yeah i think that number is eight year right right i think that number is more meaningful the recording around that april 19th ish right is probably or at least publishing yes when we're when we have one that's going to publish or yeah that feels more significant than just by the numbers of having right yeah but still

uh as far as the numbers do go though eight years of podcasting that is a significant amount yes eight years uh which we will be at this month of uh podcasting uh every single week for eight years which is wow obviously wild We won't get into depth of it. We just had episode 400 a few months ago, where if you want a history, if you're new to the Massonomics podcast, you want an in-depth history, go back, check out episode 400. I would say if you've never listened to episode 400, that is a great one. It's probably one of my favorite episodes that we've done. So do go give episode 400 a listen if you haven't uh have never if you skipped that one or didn't catch it it's the ultimate rundown yeah we actually did get finished with that rundown as a matter of fact and it was

all in episode number 400 should we talk about okay yeah actually you go next year oh no no actually i know i know i know um okay so i made the trip to aberdeen this past oh yeah weekend yeah and got there late wednesday night you and me cranked out videos and content until about 11 o'clock at night basically just like another night six days ago yeah basically just felt like another day of podcasting we were just content machines for like three hours and boy did we catch some gold when we were when we were recording there's some you yeah i'm not sure if you've seen i've put one of them did you see anything i've put on youtube yet no okay well i'm saying like you know where we can see them no yeah i know i haven't but i was just i just

just so i know what it is and you don't have to tell me, I'm going to look right now. Oh, you've got, oh, you've got multiple, you've got a couple of things. I've been a busy boy.

Yeah. So we got one thing sitting up there, but there's another thing you haven't seen yet that we were both chuckling at quite a bit. So I am very excited for that, which we can't talk about it, unfortunately, but well,

we could say we do have a real skit almost coming, right? Which we haven't done like a video skit, really. Well, not much, really. Not really. Not really in this way where we're kind of acting through. Where we almost have lines even. We've never really done that before. And I think it turned out really good.

I actually haven't even edited it yet. I've just watched some of the raw footage and it had me chuckling pretty good. Do you think it'll come across as bad or funny? I hope it comes across as funny. I think it'll come across as funny. We're definitely not actors by any means, but I think we might have pulled it off on this one. Yeah. So I guess just slightly what we're alluding to is

you'll catch most of this stuff later in April and there again, be subscribing to our YouTube channel. That's where you'll see most of this stuff. And we've got some exciting, really new stuff coming in April and it goes around some of this video content. Well, the video content is associated with it at least. And really, I would say it's big. What we have coming in April is big, right? Uh-huh. Like,

like that's a really good word to describe it, isn't it? Yes. All right. So we have, if you, if you were to say we have big things coming, that would not be a lie.

No, that's very accurate. Oh, this is a very accurate description. What are these guys saying? The flex flask ads. I do not remember those. Oh,

it's from the old podcast i wrote up a script and you tyler and i i should actually i think i probably have a transcript of that uh i don't remember a single word from those but i do now remember you saying like tommy here's your line remembers the line but it's like oh you mean you can stay hydrated and like and i think i think that's actually i think i said one of the lines was like oh you'd be a horse's ass you know sometimes i say that thing where you'd be a horse and i think that was a flex last line okay it's like oh you'd be a horse's ass not to buy one of them uh yeah i'd be i'd love to i'd love to track down that script again we might have to

bust that one yeah we're gonna have to revisit an old flex flask ad we could replace it with a silly pint or something but we do have really big things coming in april we do and a lot of and there is video good video content to go along with it yes do not miss that and we did so definitely made me laugh doing it oh yeah we yeah we had lots of lots of laughing took place but we did manage to film three more videos. We're actually talking today. We basically have our YouTube content schedule planned through the end of July, which is crazy. With a lot of the videos filmed even already. A good chunk of them are filmed. And like the good chunk of them, we know what they're going to be filmed of.

That's just for events that haven't happened yet. So a lot of cool stuff there. And then on this trip, one thing that I thought was pretty funny. Boy, was it a trip, uh, one thing that I thought was pretty funny. Was it a trip? Oh, yes, it was. I thought it was funny.

I was getting ready to leave on Friday morning, making the journey back to Eastern Southeast, South Dakota, stopped at the gas station, put a little gas in and right away I hear, Hey Tommy, or, you know,

say something son of a bitch. They'll let anyone in. It was something along those lines. And I could not tell because there's frost on the windows, you know say something son of a bitch something along those lines and I could not tell because there's frost on the windows you know vehicles pulling in and out of the gas station and then I got a little closer and it was big Zach from the gym he was he was

yelling at me crew spot yeah yep so that was that was good and then it wasn't even 30 seconds later another guy is walking out of the gas station he goes hey you're you're Tommy, right? I go, yeah. He's like, oh, I love Masonomics. And I go, oh, who are you?

Who are you? And it was Grayson's cousin, he said. And I don't know who he is. I don't know who he is. Was he older than Grayson? I don't know. I'd never seen this guy. Because there are, I know Grayson has some relatives that order Masonomics stuff.

Yeah. And I can't remember what he said his name was but he's Grayson's cousin and he says he loves Masonomic stuff and we crack him up so rave reviews we're coming in from the gas station um no I can't

remember that now either because it was parked on the opposite side of the gas pump was me so I couldn't really see it and I wouldn't know really anyway that is actually the type of I might it might mean something extended family pinned down based on yes yes it's not his cousin that does photos or any of that if that's who you're thinking no not no not him there's one that uh from school drop offline i know they have like uh one of those what are those kind of cooler toyota suvs that you could get in the trd package probably like a forerun Probably like an OD green color.

Yeah, they do the 4Runner, maybe the Sequoia or something. I think it might be this. It's a pretty big one. Okay, probably the Sequoia then if it's big. Yeah, I think he has a relative that drives that. Okay, this was definitely not that. So, okay, this guy I thought was younger than me. Honestly, I thought if I had to picture, I'd say this guy was in his 20s.

But yeah, okay. That might not be the case then either then so the holiday it just feels good to get recognized that's that's all i'm in it for the recognition anything else in the aberdeen trip i mean it snowed before did it snow before you came here uh no no i made it up the weather was fine it started snowing we had we didn't have snow when you were here no it started snowing that the night i was there uh thursday night it started snowing but then friday was that's when we got the most good enough to get back right i don't know when you got like do you guys have much snow right now no like we we do

have snow but i think it was that night when you were here because like then this weekend it was supposed to be like snowmageddon where we get like 18 inches and it blows terribly so on sunday they called school off for monday and like monday morning we had not got like everyone cleaned their driveways off on sunday and there was still no snow no oh okay well i mean there was snow like a little bit of snow but it was like yeah the time when we were supposed to get this really bad one, it was already done before that. So we got a few inches of snow, but nothing. Yeah, I want to say. It was supposed to be bad.

We didn't really get anything. And when I was there, I think they probably got four inches that one night, something like that. Yeah, that was like the majority of what we got. Okay. Yes. Okay. Like, I don't know that it really snowed significantly more than that after later, you know.

But besides the snow, it has been really shitty though. Yes. Cold. Very windy. Icy. And also, it feels particularly shitty after being really nice for a while. Oh, God, I know. So did it snow at all in Crewe Falls?

We have maybe an inch or two, but it rained a lot and that froze, so it got a little icy. The roads are icy in Aberdeen. Yeah. The roads are icy in town. That's where I can't go a little icy for the most part yeah the roads are icy that's that's where i can't go on a walk with the dog because the sidewalks are the roads are fine here but the sidewalks are so icy that i can't i can't go on walks right now so kind of kind of cooped up at the moment yeah like garage gym reviews cooped up that reminds me is this do you feel like is this jacket puffy enough or i'm just looking at it doesn't seem that you need something like can you put a really thick couple really thick sweaters on underneath it yeah i was picturing it being puffier in my head and it almost seems like form

fitting when i look at it here like it doesn't i want it to be it's not for the effect i wanted i think if you unzipped it a little bit and pop the collar up higher towards your headphones it would yeah oh you're right there you go that makes it look puffier doesnzipped a little bit and pop the collar up higher towards your headphones. It would. Oh, you're right. There you go. That makes it look puffier, doesn't it? Yeah, a little bit. I was thinking being zipped all the way up would be the look of them. It's like, why is he so bundled up?

But now this looks a little bit puffier. Yeah, you seem a little more cozy now. Yeah. Well, I don't want to get cold down there. No, you are in a basement. Yeah. And it is wintertime. And you'd be extra puffy.

Always puffy. Do you have a can over there? No, you are in a basement. Yeah. And it is wintertime. Puffy. Always puffy. Do you have a can over there? Oh, yeah. I do have a can over here. Good call. What are you rocking? I'm going with the green. The lime. We're still going through. These were given to us at the Arnold Sports Festival by one of the listeners. And what was this brand?

Little Lytle. Yeah. Mine is a crayon raspberry. I almost grabbed that one tonight, but I didn't, but I didn't do it. We were down to our last ones for next week. Actually,

I have one other one here. I forgot to give you that are wrapped up from the Arnold's from someone. So we do have one more that I need. Okay. Next time you're. Have to make the transaction. What do you think of the lime? Lime is tasty. I've had better lime, but it is still lime, so it's hard to go wrong with a lime.

Cran raspberry is perfectly good. You know, it's nothing to write home about in particular. I'd give it a three. Actually, I'm going to go with it. I'd probably go three and a half on this line. For me, line typically is closer to a four, but I think this will go three and a half. Okay.

All right. Let's see. We've probably got time for another thing here. What do we, last week, great episode. Also go listen to episode 416 from last week where we talk about Tommy's beginnings into the home gym community. A lot of engagement, a lot of comments, a lot of feedback, a lot of positive reception. So that's refreshing to see that on something like a home gym.

Yeah, so Tommy's probably done. I see we have a topic talking about some of your first lifts. I think we're going to talk a little bit more about the puffy jacket a little bit. We've got to cover some other old news from the last couple weeks episode also. So we've got time for something else, but not a ton of time. Yeah, let's do it. Okay, first, before I forget, just along the lines of gyms, did you see Efren on Brian Shaw's channel?

I had to watch that. Actually, I haven't quite finished it because I fell asleep, fell asleep to it, but I've got a little bit left, but love seeing it. You know, great stuff. You know, Efren obviously has an absolutely insane collection. It's just like a museum in there. That thing is crazy. Did you watch the whole thing i had to just i saw it pop in while i was working on some stuff and i i had to get stuff done but i couldn't

not check it out so of the i don't know is it like almost a 30 minute video i probably watched 10 ish minutes of it i had to just skim through quickly though and for anyone that wants more info on efren we interviewed him on the podcast here a couple years ago it is weird there's almost nothing i come across in the community anymore where like someone involved we have not interviewed before that's what's so funny about it it's just yeah been there like yeah no kind of what that's about already not not majorly actually with this one i still was surprised though because it is just show so shocking to see how good all of that stuff looks too. Yeah. Obviously Brian's still on our hit list though.

We'd love to get him on the podcast at some point in time, but just one more degree of separation, even closer to that. Right. Yeah. That was a really cool video though. But that was, you know, his collection is off the chain. It is just ridiculous. I would like someone more informed than me could probably put out some sort of estimate,

but I don't even know how you'd begin to estimate the value of what he's got there. I mean, I'm sure he has the inventory and he knows, but it'd be hundreds of thousands of dollars without even me thinking for a second. It's hundreds of thousands of dollars. But I would also, that's why Keith just said it, I was just going to say it's probably closer to a million dollars worth if I actually sit down and think about it. Because some of those sets of plates, just an individual pair,

well, he has those Zubers, and they're actually priceless. Like, there's so few of them that, you know, I mean, I don't know, they 10,000 might not buy a pair of those. Wow. Like a couple of those pairs that are those York tall letters. I don't know what those sell for. Those ones look so cool. There are so cool, but they're not even like, there's not a market price for them because they're so rare. I don't even remember seeing, I don't, I'm sure they're probably in his book, but that never crossed my mind is seeing something like that before to see a plate that has letters on it that that's actually what they call them is tall letters yeah i think you call it like tall lettered yorks or something those are cool those look really cool have it all do you have any idea when what year those are from

are those really old or i think 30s oh they're that old those are the first i think those are like the early york wow 30s 40s maybe wow they're really rare okay Really? Those are the first. I think those are like the early York deep dish. 30s, 40s maybe. Wow. Yeah, they're really rare. Okay. But I think those Zubers that he has are exceptionally rare. Like there's like five known pairs in some of those weights that are something ridiculous like that.

What ones are the Zubers again? What do those look like? They have the guy on them. Oh, they do. Okay. Kind of like the, what do you call them? Like the Arnold or the LeMasters. LeMaster, yeah.

Is the LeMaster supposed to be kind of a replica of those? I mean, I don't, there's no way. I mean, you couldn't say that it's not inspired by that for sure. All right. Yeah, that's cool. But also, I bet it probably is a million dollars. Also, what's so cool about his collection, though, is the way it displays.

Because you could have this stuff just on, on i mean you could definitely display this stuff in ways where it's not gonna look good where it's just gonna look like a bunch of iron discs into the way that yes especially those ones where he has those little i don't even know what the names for this stuff is it's this in the thumbnail they have here in the discord where he's got them stacked where it's that rack where they're stacked small and it's like three three plates and then the whole line down to the collars and those are just stacked on each other those look so cool the way they're on display yeah yeah it's legit that is a very it's a you got to watch the youtube video if you don't know what we're talking about ephraim just type in ephraim brian shaw and it's even if you're not really into vintage

weights it's hard to look at that and not be impressed and it's even if you're not really into vintage weights it's hard to look at that and not be impressed because it's just such a collection it is quite the collection uh what else are you were just saying something though or what were we should we talk about the then we'll say we'll save the uh first gym lifts for after we'll save the home gym talk for after the guest later in this episode um do we talk about uh let's see or do i mean do i want to talk about strength code thing yeah let's talk about that let's let's talk about it was really fun i mean i think at this point last week when we went in depth talking about gym, home gym equipment, all that. And then we talked a little bit about the different channels that offer up content. And what was so funny is that just happened is that Coop Garage Gym Reviews had just released a video of the best weight plates.

And they totally snubbed Grant from the list, which is hilarious because it wasn't even mentioned. And it granted also won an award from them a couple years ago for best play won an award for best plates ever made he actually did he actually did do that but then for whatever reason he didn't even make the cut on this video of uh plate recommendations whatever the hell the title of the video was and coop definitely graduate reviews definitely caught hell for it in the comments. You know, there was a, every, every Masonomics strength co-person that you think you know, definitely left a comment on that video saying,

I recommend strength co-played, strength co, strength co, strength co, on and on and on. Well, then this week, what was the actual title? And actually this week, today this happened. I want to know what the title of this video was. It was, and actually this week today this happened uh i want to know what the title of this video was it

was garage gym reviews came up with a video called i messed up and it was coop the thumbnails coop holding a strength co plate and it is there's a few funny things about this video it's a six minute 20 second video and it was basically coop saying yep i totally overlooked i forgot about the strength co when i was making this list. I mean, yeah, things can happen. It's an odd overlook, but I guess things can happen, whatever. So he offered his apologies. I really enjoyed that they put all of the comments that people were leaving on his video.

They were popping it up on screen. And it's almost like a who's who of Masonomics people. Masonomics Strength Co. people when the list pops up. There's very few people on that list that I didn't recognize their YouTube handle or just a name in some way. So that was really funny. They even put some memes that,

there was a meme featured in the video as well that was made. And maybe of the six- The puffy coat meme. Yes, the puffy coat. So maybe of the six minute, 20 second video, it felt like an unusually large portion of the video was spent talking about Coop's puffy coat.

At least a third of the whole video was talking about people kind of making fun of him for the puffy coat that he was wearing, which I do love that he acknowledged it and they talked about it. And he was a good sport about it also. Well, you got to be. If you're putting something out on YouTube, you got to be a good sport about it but uh and he was a pretty good he was a good sport yeah well you gotta be you gotta if you're putting something out of youtube you gotta be a good sport about it uh it also it's not like he was getting threats or anything it's just people poking fun about his coat but his justification was funny though wasn't his justification that it's winter time at their warehouse was that

yeah something like that but i don't get Like, is their warehouse not climate controlled? That's what I don't understand. Yeah. Also, I like he made the comment that he's like, yeah, and some of the people here were really actually pretty bothered by that, the coat comments. And I'm like, I want to hear these conversations that were going on there. That would have been amazing to sit in these meetings where they're having the discussion of, what do we do with this? There's a lot going on here right now. Graham posted the meme where he had remade it

where in everything he says, his jacket gets a little bit puffier and a little bit puffier. Because that had come from a comment where I said this, but his jacket gets a little bit puffier with each subsequent sentence until it swallows him whole. Oh, I loved it. It was.

It was hilarious. So I guess you could say that. I'd say good on him for making that video. Yes. And actually what's interesting is the best weight plate video came out two weeks ago and has 52,000 views. The I Messed Up video came out 11 hours ago and has 38,000. So Grant got a pretty good advertisement out of this. Actually, he got a great advertisement, maybe better than, maybe better than if he was just in the initial video.

Yeah, no, I mean, yes, better. He got his own dedicated video on a channel with half a million subscribers. So it is better ultimately. So we'll take, we'll take our apology video any day now. No kidding. And you say, you say apologize for what we'll say, you know, make, make an apology. It's for when you did that tour at our gym. And in the beginning of it, you made fun of Aberdeen in a way that didn't sound like you were laughing with us. It sounded like you were laughing at us. Yes. And you're from the Midwest. You sounded like you were laughing at us. Yes. And you're from the Midwest. We're all from the Midwest.

You can't make fun of other people from the Midwest. Yes. I am going to remove my puffy coat now that we've covered this part of the podcast, though. The shedding of the coat. The ceremonial. I don't actually like to wear coats while filming content. You've got to babysit it in your own basement now, though. That's true.

Now I had to get this thing out of my garage, haul it down here, set it to the side, remember to put it on for this little shtick. Now it might get lost in the fulfillment warehouse with all the other apparel. It's probably going to end up in somebody's order on accident. In a hat box. Why is there a puffy coat in here? Who stuffed a coat into this hat box?

It doesn't even make sense. Why is there a puffy coat in here? Who stuffed a coat into this hat box? It doesn't even make sense. Why is it so puffy? Okay. How about a little supporting our supporting members? This is a segment that we try to do each week on the Mathsonomics podcast. And what we do is we have this group of people that choose to support the Mathsonomics podcast financially. You can do that also. If you're interested, go to Mathastonomics podcast financially, you can do that also.

If you're interested, go to mastonomics.com slash join. That's where you can find more about our different options. And we honestly appreciate every single person that chooses to do this. And this is one of those ways we show that appreciation. And a lot of stuff going on this week amongst crew members that I caught. So I've got a long list this week. Number one is Big Murph was at Lift Evil Unleashed powerlifting meet, Big Frank's powerlifting meet. So first, I guess, Big Frank for putting on Lift Evil Unleashed,

supporting member Big Frank. Big Murph was there, and she did a 280 squat, 170 bench, 347 deadlift for a 797 total. Very nice. He'd been up on that 800-pound total. Big Sam, the chicken bake man, was also there at Lift Evil Unleashed. He did the strongman competition on Saturday, got first in the novice lightweight men's class,

and then did powerlifting on Sunday. So he did both. Fueled by chicken-bakes. Yeah. So he was not messing around. He did both. Impressive. Get you somebody who can do both yeah he can do both then big keith had a usa pl meet this weekend he did a four net 413 squat

287 bench 446 deadlift going nine for nine on his way to a 11,144-pound total, which I think is a PR. Oh, yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong right there. And then along with him, his training partner and fellow supporting member, the man with two first names, Big Chris Mark, hit a 4.13 squat to Ty Keith, a 2.42 bench, a 4.73 deadlift for an 11.28 total, also going nine for nine. So they're them New York nine for nine boys.

Wait, what was the two totals? 1128 and 11? Yeah, 1128 versus 1144. Ooh, they got themselves a little competition there. Keith's probably worried that the student may become the teacher at some point in time. Getting pretty close on totals. Yeah, we'll have to watch how that relationship plays out. Yes.

Congrats to Big John Roy for the birth of his son, Big Bo Roy. New addition to western northeast South Dakota right here. Family PR is what they say. Yep, new family PR for Big J. Roy. So congrats to J. Roy and Amy. And then an unexpected crew meetup this week. Big Paul Foss and Big Nate, Big Mo, Mo Strength, met up in the hospital for, I believe,

as an angiogram for Big Nate. So they had a crew meetup picture in Nate's hospital bed. The picture was really... Big Paul and his scrubs. It was caught off guard at first when i saw that one yeah but i just i love that they still had the wherewithal to get a picture for instagram of a crew meetup which is just uh i mean that's the best part of the whole scenario obviously wishing i talked to big nate about it i think things are going well and we wish him uh a good recovery on everything recovery sounds like it was uh things went the way it was a you know ultimately a good thing that got found out and things are

going well so that's good that is very good tanner our guest our guest has arrived so okay i'll better wrap this up quickly then big jordan stewart stewart a canadian man competed at ukns canadian national championship strongman i think or was that powerlifting i'm not sure what ukns i actually can't remember now there's so many here but anyways he got first place in the under 105 kilogram category that tells me i think that was strongman then that makes sense that's strong man um last but not least big jordan wong was this week's guest on the unpaid and underrated podcast make sure to go give that a listen uh past guest of our podcast jordan wong good work everyone yeah are we ready to go yeah should we get them on we'll read read some as soon as after your steve gets off

we'll read some ads then yep all right sweet uh we're here with big steve we're excited to get you on big steve bake and uh we got to meet you just briefly at the arnold this year we didn't get to talk to you too much but you were there uh pulling some big weights what what did you end up pulling at the strength co-booth at the arnold this year uh i pulled 850 for a pretty easy just one rep yeah yeah uh and did you do that beltless too yes okay so do you normally deadlift beltless or is that uh were you just is i mean are you doing that in your training right now or what do you um i kind of just started doing it when i come back from my uh quad tear back in october i just started pulling it when I come back from my quad tear back in October. I just started pulling without a belt.

The highest I got up to was 885. So do you feel like it's at the point? I mean, does a belt, would it still help you at this point? Or have you just moved on from it? I'll probably throw it back in at some point. I was just trying. I was just kind of having fun with it pulling without it uh i do sometimes feel like it gets in the way i'm kind of a bigger guy

yeah so we'll see what happens i don't know yeah you're kind of a bigger guy uh how how much do you weigh just for people like what is your what is your height and weight just for people listening so they understand i'm six in'2", 350 right now. Yeah, yeah. Big Steve is a very big guy. He earned the name Big Steve. So how did you tear your quad squatting, or what was it? I did, yeah.

I tore it squatting October 25th. Was it a heavy set or a freak thing or what was the scenario? I was using a camber bar for the first time and I had 965 on. Came down, everything felt fine. As soon as I started to push up, I just felt it snap. Heard it.

So do you think with the camber bar were you like pitch different or something like did it get you wonky or off balance or anything like that or I think looking back on it now I believe it kind of threw me forward just a little bit um but yeah it just blew there was nothing I could do about it at that point. Yeah. So you, uh, at the, at the Arnold, you, you pulled eight 50. You're an Ohio guy. Have you gone to the Arnold many times, you know, a lot of times, or do you, do you check it out most years? Did you avoid it or what's your, what's your take on the Arnold?

Um, when I first started going, going uh I was about 16 and uh I went every year for probably 10 years then I took a break from it for a little while and then uh I went the year they reopened after COVID and uh it wasn't very good no we were there too yeah it wasn't quite the same but uh I hadn't been until this year, but I thought this year it was really good. Yeah, the big crowds were back. It had that crazy feeling again. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

So we talked about calling you Big Steve, but a couple other names we were throwing around. Curious which one you like better. Are you the strongest man that you've never heard of, or are you the the strongest man that uh you've never heard of are you the world's strongest farmer uh both yeah i like both good choice i i do like both i kind of like world's strongest farmer though that's kind of might be my personal favorite out of the two yeah i would probably lean towards that one if i had to choose one. I also would have to think that that's just factually true. I don't know anyone else in the powerlifting or strongman community

that's at the top of the game that's a farmer by occupation or even questionably a farmer. Or do you know anyone? I do not. No, I do not know anyone. Right. I'm just trying to think of who fits your title Tanner being questionably a farmer. Well,

I'm just thinking some people, um, so we live in, uh, we say Western Northeast, South Dakota. We live in, uh,

the Northeast corner of South Dakota. It's, uh, a big, uh, cash grain crop farming here. So it's corn soybeans. Uh, yeah. Historically used to be more small here, so it's corn, soybeans. Historically, it used to be more small grains, but it's kind of, you know,

over the last 20 years, it's transitioned away from – there's still people that grow wheat and then, like, some feed stuff, you know, so there's oats and millet and sunflowers and stuff. But it's really, you know know with the way corn has gone it's really a corn and soybean heavy rotation mostly around here and there just are people sometimes that just like kind there's like people that like hobby farm you know i would say and then i don't know if you hobby farm if you can be world's strongest farmer or not yeah i don't know maybe not there's always there's always somebody out there yeah okay so we i do want to talk to you well so you're from ohio an important

question we always talk about with ohio and you're from i assume you live in kind of a rural community there or what part yeah i live in monroe we're uh we're basically right in between cincinnati and dayton okay so what we always talk to people about you know we're from uh south dakota which we we always think is midwest here you know if we go a little bit east it's obviously midwest and iowa and minnesota and stuff but ohio seems to be more questionable sometimes people have different opinions on it, but you as an Ohio guy is Ohio, the Midwest. I would say no.

So you would say no. Okay. So what do you, what would you classify it as? Well, where we live, it's everything's getting developed and built all over the place. So we're kind of city farmers around here now. Okay. A lot of development going on. Yeah.

So that's, uh, is that a big, yeah, I suppose, uh, I suppose that certainly takes away some of the Midwest feel as it starts to get,

if there's more building and more building going on all the time. For sure. I mean, I'm, I'm sure there's definitely some parts of Ohio that are, you know, more Midwest than exactly where I'm talking about, where we, you know, where we live. Right. Some people say it's Ohio's like the South. Have you ever heard that before?

I have not heard that before. I probably disagree with that. Yeah. Yeah. I'd have a hard time agreeing with that one. But is it the east? Like, is it east coast? It doesn't seem like you can say it's the east, though, does it? It's like neither one of them. We're just kind of here. It's just Ohio. As we're talking, though, you know, we have kind of a funny South Dakota accent. I do in particular.

Sometimes people notice it, but I would say you're, you're, yours is closer to a Southern accent almost than it is a, you know, than it is like ours. You know, I would, I don't know. That's kind of my, my assessment of that. We'll let the listeners be the judge of that, but right. I've never, I've never been told that, but maybe I can see it. I can hear that a little bit though. I get that. Right. But actually anything outside the Midwest to us is just foreign.

So we have no idea we're right outside of our little bubble of the Midwest. I should say you guys are in the middle of nowhere. Yes, we are in the middle of nowhere. That's right. Some of your crazy feats of strength. You know, we talked about the eight 50 beltless deadlift, which that's obviously not something you see very often and conventional i would say too do you ever have you ever pulled sumo before like do you ever train sumo no no i'm against sumo yeah anti-sumo deadlift club for sure

yeah uh but some of your other things i think I'm pretty sure I saw or heard something that it's like a 405 bench for 25 reps. Is that right? That is correct. Yeah. 225 for 75, 315 for 45, 405, 25, and 500 for 13. Damn. Yeah.

So any of those, were you like, were you training for those at all or was it just like a day, you were just like it's going to be a higher rep day, let's throw on 405 and do as many reps as possible or what were those scenarios?

No, it definitely, it took some time to build up. I would alternate like a light like a light day for reps then maybe the next week heavy then maybe a moderate um so the heavy would be you know like the 500 right yeah medium 405 light 225 315 so the 225 did you say 75 reps 75 yeah what's have you ever seen anyone that's done more than that i have but most of the time they have on like elbow wraps or sleeves elbow sleeves all mine have been done with you know nothing on my elbows yeah what was that one of those

that sucked more than the others when you were done uh the 225 that was the yeah that's a lot of reps that's a lot of reps i think the hardest thing i've ever done in the weight room was when i was weighing 265 or 270 i put that weight on the squat bar, and I squatted it 100 straight reps without racking the barbell. That's the hardest thing I've ever done, and I only did it once. So were you doing it in like – I know you said you didn't rack it. Were you – you had to be taking – were you trying to do it in like 20-rep chunks, or like what was your, uh, how do you, how do you go for a hundred?

I just didn't think I just went, you know, it would, you know, it started out easy. Then it'd get hard. Yeah. Then you'd hit a point where it'd get a little bit easier. Then it'd get a little bit harder. And I remember hitting, uh, I got the rep 88 and I I'm like there is no way I'm doing this again I'm getting to 100 so yeah you're not gonna you're not gonna make it like 10 reps the way there and quit I'm like I'm not starting all the way over again when you before you started

before you even started did you have a number in mind like did you think you were gonna get to 100 or was it let's just see where the scale is. So when we started this, we, the goal was to do our body weight for a hundred reps. It took a long time to get there. You know, we kind of did the same thing that I did with bench. Sometimes we'd go heavier than a lighter day than a medium, but, uh, it, it wasn't fun. Yeah. I don't think I've ever heard of anyone doing a bodyweight anything for 100 reps. That's quite the challenge. There's a challenge for everybody out there now. We talked about the bench and doing high rep stuff there and then the squat there too.

But have you ever done any high rep deadlift sets like that? Yeah, I've pulled 800 for five uh that's you know that's not really high reps but right 405 315 um always no straps i don't i don't train with straps i think 315 i did it like 52 times i believe okay so you have done stuff like that before oh yeah yeah yeah again not fun that was all when i was uh in better shape before i sold my solar power lifting have you uh we talk a lot of times there's a certain food item that we're big on around here and it just so happens to be part of your last name so have you ever had the costco chicken bake before have you ever had a costco chicken bake before have you ever had a costco chicken bake i have not but i see that on your uh instagram quite a bit i'm gonna have to try it

yeah i would like nothing more than for steve bake to have a costco chicken bake and give us your like the official bake review on that i'll make it happen it's only 399 and it's 52 grams of protein so you almost can't afford not to i get two of them there you go yeah do you have uh do you have are you a suit i mean do you what's your farthest how far do you have to go to get to a costco uh 15 minutes oh it's just right down yeah right down 75 yeah there you go you've got to go and give us your official review of that then. For sure. I will. Okay.

We know you're a hunting guy. We talked about turkey hunting a little bit and stuff, but we have a little game we play with everyone that we have on. We're from South Dakota, so we do the Mount Rushmore game. So it's just you've got to pick your, basically you pick your four best of something. But for you, we want the Mount Rushmore of hunts. So, like, I assume turkey's probably going to be on there as one of them, but what would be your four game animals?

You know, if you could only pick four for hunting, what four would be on your Mount Rushmore? Turkey hunting would definitely be the first. So that's George Washington washington we suppose yeah deer hunting would be the next one um i enjoy coyote hunting for another one i'm to go with fishing. Okay. Curveball. Curveball. We'll count that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So what kind of deer is it? Is it white-tailed deer?

White. Yeah. Okay. We've got some big white-tailed here in Ohio. Okay. And then coyote hunting. Are you usually calling in coyotes then? Is that how you coyote hunt?

Yeah. Yeah. I've got a buddy. He does most of it at night it's uh it's a cool experience yeah but uh yeah we have a lot of coyotes around here yeah and then uh you know for us i think i mentioned this to you but our big big it's like our biggest like industry actually in the corner of state that i live in is pheasant hunting. You know, we're, are, we are kind of what they consider the pheasant cap, pheasant hunting capital of the United States. People fly into it, flock into our little airport every October,

November timeframe to come pheasant hunting here. So. Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. You have to come here sometime and do a little pheasant hunting. I'd have to do that. Yeah. I'd enjoy that. Yeah. When I came out to South Dakota, Turkey, I saw a lot of pheasants. Yeah. So how long ago were you in South Dakota?

Yeah. What part? How long ago even? That was six years ago I was there. Yeah. I don't remember what part it was in. I don't remember. Did you guys fly in or drive in?

No, we flew. Okay. Yeah. Good choice. My wife bought me that hunt for my 30th birthday. Oh, cool. Okay. Yeah, I don't remember where I was at, though, exactly.

Yeah. I don't know very much about turkey hunting, so I don't know what part of the state someone would be at, typically, if they were turkey hunting. I mean, I know you see them everywhere. Do you see wild turkeys? Do you see them walking around in Ohio? Is that a thing there?

Oh, yeah. They're all over. Yeah. Because, yeah, you see wild turkeys here. Most states have a pretty good abundance of turkeys. Okay. Is the South Dakota turkey much different than an Ohio turkey, though? Yeah, so there's four different species in the United States.

There's the Osceola. They're only in the real southern part of Florida, like Immokalee, Everglades type area. And then there's the Easterns, which those are the most common turkeys. That's what we have here in Ohio and Kentucky, Tennessee, Indiana. So in South Dakota, those are the Merriams out there. They have a little bit more of a white tip on their tail. Then there's the Rios. They're in Texas, New Mexico, stuff like that.

Is wild turkey good eating? Very good. I mean, does it taste like turkey? It tastes good. Would I know the difference if you gave me a plate of each, you know, of turkey from the store? So you don't really fix them like you would a Thanksgiving turkey. The best part of them is the breast obviously

so how i do it you know i take the breast meat out of them and we just uh cut them up into like like chicken strips or whatever like chicken strips and then just fry them and yeah they're good does it have a little bit of a gamey taste to it or is it no not at all okay interesting no um i don't eat the legs some people do i have a guy i give them to um he eats them he says they're good but that's a little bit more of a darker meat yeah how about the desserts uh i haven't ate those yeah so like what do you measure like if you're like y'all i begged a badass turkey so is it the how much it weighs or is there something with the feather or you know like some have like just better a better look to them um so you definitely measure the the weight of the turkey and then they

judge it by the beard and their spurs okay um a lot of people will say you know they'll they'll look at spurs on turkey and be like oh well this turkey is two or three years old but really that has nothing to do with how old a turkey is uh a lot of people um you know they they believe that to be true but it's really not true right what uh what can you legally hunt a turkey with so you use like a 12 gauge i assume but then like is there only certain like what you can use a 12 gauge 10 gauge um any type like crossbow compound bow okay yeah no no rifle okay no right i assume you can't use it right so when you use a 12 gauge or whatever what is the shot that you like what is it like a slug basically that you use to shoot a turkey with or like what's the no so it's all

pellets yeah so it like is it is i mean do you use like it's got to be a low shot number then though right because you're it's not like uh you're shooting a flying bird that you want to build. Correct. The shot size I use is a 5, 6, and 7 blend or a 7 and 9 blend. Yeah. And I barely know what I'm talking about, but I don't know for that to make a little bit of sense to me. So what kind of shotgun do you have? A 12-gauge Remington 870.

Oh, classic. That's what I've got, too. I haven't tried that gun for nothing so is it a synthetic stock or a wood stock synthetic black or you probably have one that's camo yeah I suppose

yeah that's what that's my old faithful is Remington 870 express 12 gauge so they're hard to beat you could throw it in the uh throw it in the throw it in a pile of dirt for five years and pull it out and it should still uh should still shoot it'll be just fine yeah yeah i've had mine in some rough situations okay so you are a farmer and you guys must race you must sell sweet corn that must be part of what

you do yeah we raise a lot of sweet corn uh sell it in the summer just right out in front of my parents house which is on the farm so do you do the old uh back of the pickup tailgate maneuver when you're selling it there is it we put it on a wagon okay yeah and then um so we've got a uh i think big nick is regular listener of the podcast he's a he's a agronomist runs the location manager i think he's in indiana but he knew we were having you on and he had a he had a question first of all first question is what's your favorite sweet corn hybrid do you have one that uh is a favorite of yours um yes it's uh it's the kind we raise actually it's not a secret nah i'll i'll share a little information about it it's called a extra tender it's a super

sweet okay uh it's a bi-color yellow and white we used to raise a lot of silver queen and uh which is white corn and uh bodacious it was all yellow yeah but um ever since we started raising this bi-color man we we sell so much of that uh we still get the occasional people that want the all yellow or the all white but uh it's just not really worth the time of us raising it and selling it we just don't sell enough of it anymore right so well it's follow-up question you named some in there but he said why the hell do you think uh so many of the sweet corn varieties have sexy names because there's obsession, temptation, temptress, bodacious, big and tender, crave, passion, utopia. I don't know.

I never really thought about that, but you're right. We're not describing corn there. What's going on here? Yeah, I was like part of the beginning of a porno or something. Hey, we just sell it. What they do with it after that is their business. You need to put that on a sign out front. Yeah.

I always drive some up to Dave Tate up at Elite Fitness. He's only about an hour and a half from me, and he said it's the best stuff he's ever ate. Yeah. It's really good. My dad's 80. He's been selling sweet corn since he was a kid there that's okay so there's probably some people that uh every year they're like uh you're

a stop on their list you know they're not they're not uh they're not happy until they make sweet corn yeah yeah we have a few people that drive up from t every year and get it. We just let our corn speak for itself. We don't advertise a whole lot. Word of mouth. We go by that. I think that's the best. I suppose it's a little out of season, so you can't bring us any at the Arnold next year or anything.

Nah, I won't be able to. Well, we free some, I could bring, Oh, there we go. Yeah. That's what we need. That's what we need.

So we'll got to arrange that. Yeah. We'll make that happen. Keep that in mind. Yeah. Uh, you said going up to Dave's place. I,

I mean, you've, you've probably, I think from what I've seen, you've trained in some kind of cool places with some cool people before, you know, you talked about Dave there. I'm guessing maybe you've trained in some kind of cool places with some cool people before. You talked about Dave there. I'm guessing maybe you've trained in the elite FTS gym.

I thought I saw something before where you're at Donnie Thompson's place. I did. I went to Donnie Thompson's two years ago. I loved it down there. I've got to get back down there. I talked to him quite a bit. I'm a big fan of Donnie. That's South Carolina, right?

Yeah, Columbia. Columbia, okay. quite a bit i'm a big fan of donnie yeah that's south carolina right he's in south carolina yeah columbia columbia okay yeah and then i've trained at uh super training at mark bell's gym uh right a few years ago how was that uh it was really cool it was a neat experience uh how was mark did you did you have a good you know you, you know, cause I just, we asked because I don't know, he's maybe polarizing, you know, some people may be used to like him now to think, ah, I don't like the crap he does and all this stuff. But I would kind of a guess like a lot of people, maybe I'm wrong, but in person, maybe it was pretty nice. I don't know. That's, you know, most people are always kind of cool when you meet him in person. Yeah, he was very nice. Uh, his

brother, Chris was there. He, they were all very nice uh his brother chris was there he they were all very nice uh workers you know people in the gym uh stan efforting was there when we were there that's cool um ever ever yeah everybody was really nice so i i think maybe i don't know actually the facts of this but i think maybe that gym's not open anymore that's what i was wondering it seemed like just recently something might have changed there i think the gym might be closed or something i don't know i think it was only open to the public on weekends okay from what i was told but i think that did they move well that's what yeah because i thought you had something about a new gym the other day like putting equipment in the new space yeah they they they changed something, I thought. I couldn't quite figure it out, though.

I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't know. But it was a nice gym. And they were all very nice people. Yeah, I mean, most people, even people that have an unfavorable opinion on them about them from the internet, usually when you see those people in person, they're usually almost always still just nice and you leave thinking that guy's actually pretty cool there's always haters everywhere yeah yeah that's true uh your uh lifting background it looks like you have several meets that you've done in uh open powerlifting we

say the strongest guy you've never heard of i'm pretty sure you've done in, uh, open powerlifting. We say the strongest guy you'd never heard of. I'm pretty sure you've done a 2,400 pound total in there. That's my best to date. And then I totaled 2335 at three Oh eight. So I believe at that time it was, uh, the second or third best all time total at three Oh eight. Yeah. So what do you, I mean, you'd like to compete again, I assume, you you know you're not getting as strong as you are and not wanting to compete at some point i would guess no i'm definitely going to compete i've uh these past four years that i haven't competed it's been rough you know i've had uh i've had two surgeries um i went through a spell of vertigo for about six or seven months and that was terrible what is vertigo is that like i just picture you get

like dizzy or something but i don't actually know what it is a pain in the rear end yeah dizzy um some people get sick you know vomit from it i didn't do that but it was the dizziness it was terrible and still trying to train through that it was was awful. So is that gone now? Or like, did you get that figured out or? Yeah, it was good. Never really got it figured out. It just, um, went away. You know, I was doing this thing like two days before I started getting the symptoms. I, uh, this guy named John Perillo, I work out at, uh, it's actually the hat I got on

Perillo performance. He had me push up against his tractor just as hard as i could while he was moving it forward slowly like to get me to drive it backwards and uh two days after that's when i started getting vertigo i don't know if that has something to do with just how hard i was pushing yeah if he just ruptured something or yeah right my buddy jimmy gross that was watching it he said it was one of the coolest things he's ever seen me do unfortunately we don't have it on video so it was like a track tractor pull only man powered correct yeah yeah was this as a training exercise though or were you actually trying to help him do something no this was just for uh just for a time just to see what the hell you could do gotcha yeah anybody that knows john perlo they'll understand what i'm talking about

okay but uh yeah that's all gone um then i was actually three weeks out from a meet when i tore my quad so i'm gonna try to i'm to do a push pull me July 27th. And then, uh, well, you've benched like 650 pounds before or something, I think too. Right.

You know, it's, uh, you've been 45 is my best in a meeting. Yeah. So that's, that's a top five all time bench for a full, full power.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There were, I mean, yeah, it's 700,

the, the, the heaviest bench ever that anyone's done full power. So you're like, there can't be that many ahead of you. I think TD smash has maybe done 700 in full power. I think he did seven 10. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. But, uh, fifth place will probably be as high as I get on that. Uh, fourth place is like six 80 something. I mean, uh, so i've had my shoulder done uh that that put a hurting on my bench for a while it's just now starting to get good again okay you know touching six on a weekly basis so i would say that's pretty good to me enough it's never good enough you know no matter what that's the classic uh like

for i mean everyone at any strength level that's kind of always the case though you know yeah for sure there's nobody there's no numbers or nothing you ever get to and think i don't know maybe you're different maybe you are strong enough that you've gotten to some of those numbers but i don't think anyone rarely does anyone get to something and think, yep, that was it. That was the one I needed. Like, we're good now. Maybe if you're squatting your body weight 100 reps, maybe that's when you can say you're good.

Yeah, that was enough for that. I'm good on that. But then did you ever think, because I don't know, you said you were 265. Did you ever think, I wonder if I could do 275 for 100? I thought it probably would have looked cooler with the 40s i know because then it's just a mile then it's just a better looking weight setup on the bar the 265 or 270 i can't remember what it was but uh that was plenty for that day okay but uh i'm hoping to do a full beat

in uh november this year just depending on how my quad. So far, it's coming along good. Yeah. I'm only – so when I was at the Arnold, I was only 17 weeks post-surgery. So I'm about to be now. Yeah, so it's not affecting deadlifting. Does your quad not bother you very much when you're deadlifting? Not at all.

I don't use a lot of legs. Like when I deadlift, it's more so like a RDL or, you know, straight leg deadlift. That's just the way I've always pulled. Right. You wouldn't believe all the people that tell me I'm doing it wrong.

So I assume they deadlift like 400 pounds less than you typically. So. Correct. So that kind of goes in here and out the other yeah yes i would typically not make a habit of telling people that are uh uh 80 stronger than me that they're doing it wrong uh when you were dead lifting at uh the strength co booth at the arnold was uh g i i missed it we were busy at our booth at the night couldn't uh g i i missed it we were busy at our booth at the night couldn't get over i don't know tommy were you over there no i couldn't make

it over either no um was gino there announcing when you were there then he was that was the first time i've met him or okay he was uh quite a character yeah i mean do you did you had you ever seen him i mean did you have any idea who that was or anything? Or is that your first encounter of him? No, I had seen him up at the Arnold. I believe the year right after COVID, he was announcing their deadlift then. That was the first time I'd seen him. Okay. Yeah, that was probably an experience.

Yeah, it was. I'm not used to the attention and people calling my name out and stuff. I'm more just the quiet guy that does his thing and goes away. But he made sure everybody knew who I was and that I was a farmer. You want to keep a low profile. You don't want Gino there while you're there. He's like, I heard something in one of the videos. He's like, the baker.

Let's see what he's gotten of. Let's see what he's gotten of. Let's see what he's cooking up. Something like that. Trying to get any nickname to stick. He always does that with everyone's names. He thinks little things that he plays off of their names and stuff like that. For someone, if you're not used to the attention that much, how did that feel then deadlifting there?

Because one thing you definitely were getting there is a lot of attention you know you got hundreds of people staring at you someone on the pa screaming and stuff so did it feel like another day in the gym or did it feel weird no no it didn't feel weird you know all that kind of goes away when you're yeah when you're lifting same same way to me you know you just right once you get up there on the platform all that kind of disappears but no i had a great time and the strength company people they were fantastic um so hopefully they have me back up next year i have a feeling you could get it get in on that again if you're if you're wanting to i guess that won't be a problem uh okay we've got

this time do you think we should could do overrated underrated all right we've got this other game that we play with everyone on here this one's the mount rushmore game's pretty easy this one's also pretty easy so um this one's overrated underrated and we've got a special hand-picked set of topics for steve bake the world's strongest farmer they're just just for you and it's your job to decide if each one's overrated or underrated the thing you got to remember is you can't ride the line you have to you can't you can't be wishy-washy in the middle you got to pick one or the other on each one so got it okay so i don't know the story on this i assume this name is going to mean something to

you and you just tell me if this doesn't make any sense and we'll, we'll, we'll call an audible on this, but I saw a picture, so it's gotta be something. So overrated or underrated buff Bagwell. Overrated. So what, for anyone that's listening, like what,

what, what's the story of buff bag? I just saw a picture of buff bagwell and i just wondered what the story was i have no idea oh okay i think it was i think it was on uh the farm your farm facebook account there was someone on there with a picture with them is like one of the pictures so it doesn't really yeah i haven't been able to get into my Facebook for like two years. Okay. So I don't know.

I don't believe I've ever met him. Okay. I don't know. My brother wrestles. Well, maybe it was your, would it be, or would your brother be in pictures on like the,

cause what's the farm? It's it's Oak, Oakland farms, Oakland farms. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe it was your brother then maybe uh but i've met a lot of cool wrestlers uh brett hart uh a lot of them guys yeah so your brother uh is a wrestler

like a performance wrestler like that or you know he's done that in the past or okay okay his uh former tag team partner was uh aj styles which i believe he's in wwe right now okay yeah so your brother made a significant go at it then yeah he he took it very seriously yeah he still wrestles every now and then so did he ever get you roped into any of that or did you know no that's not for me you did you never do anything at any any of it at all never any screwing around in the backyard or anything like that yeah i can't say i didn't do that yeah nothing for real okay uh yeah so who did you say hacksaw uh yeah that's pretty cool yeah he was uh i mean i was a kid then but he was a big guy yeah yeah um

brett the hitman heart he was always my favorite growing up yeah it was really awesome to meet him that's cool did you wear like a pink and black he had the single i had multiple friends when i was growing up that had brett the hitman heart polsters in their bedrooms yeah yeah i even had the glasses that he would come out with yeah yeah and did he die young then too did am i right no he's alive okay i get confused with wrestlers at a certain point i'm like he uh his his brother died and then brett had a stroke yeah gotcha but uh yeah that's that's pretty cool though okay so no buff bagwell i should have asked you brett the hitman heart would have been a better one then wasn't but speaking of buff bagwell so you do kind of know wrestling then or at least in that area

era was he with big papa pump were those two like tag team partners i believe so yeah big papa pump was jacked yeah i've met him okay like he had huge arms didn't he am i misremembering that they were huge yeah yeah he looked like a i mean a lot of the wrestlers are big but he looked like a bodybuilder yeah he yeah he was a big dude and ripped up yeah he was he was big yeah i don't know how big his arms were but they were big dude i remember being a kid and being like how can someone's arms be that big like i didn't know how big his arms were, but they were big. I remember being a kid and being like, how can someone's arms be that big? I didn't even think it was possible. When he would flex, it was crazy.

Crazy, yeah. I mean, he looked like a stage-ready bodybuilder looks like to me. Yeah, for sure. That's crazy. Okay. Overrated or underrated? I assume, I think you have this in Ohio. You're a farmer and you're also a hunter, so overrated or underrated CRP?

Does anyone ever plant anything to CRP there? They do. I would say it's overrated. Okay. Yeah. So do you ever, you don't go hunting CRP? I mean, you don't hunt turkeys out of CRP, I assume, or anything like that then. There's only one farm that I hunt that has a CRP field.

I mean, they use it, but I believe the animals, they just like the grain fields, corn, soybeans. Right. You guys also have a lot more woods around there too, don't you? Yeah, for sure. So we talked about your sweet corn this isn't a part of the game question but what what else what else do you guys raise on the farm um i sell uh i sell eggs i got a couple hundred chickens oh nice and i sell eggs too i started

doing that when i was 12 but other than that nothing really yeah it's about all we do yeah yeah so how do you uh um how many chickens did you say 200 chickens then yeah so how and like a chicken lays like two eggs every three days or something or it depends on the kind of chicken or something like that yeah I mean a good a good chicken will lay you know one egg every every day or every other day okay yeah but most of the time they lay every day do you have to have them in heat somewhere heated then in the winter uh no i get uh golden comets they're uh they're known to handle cold weather really well uh now when they're little i mean yeah you got to keep them under a heat lamp so do you have like a chicken coop or are

they free range chickens or i don't even know what the hell free range chicken means like there isn't they aren't pinned up or something or yeah they're just loose okay yeah um i have them in a barn but then uh yeah we let them out okay so they So they can, you know, the free range. Yeah. The organic. So can you sell it as a free range chicken egg? Oh, for sure. Okay, nice. Yeah.

So you can charge twice as much. Whatever they want me to call it, that's what I'll do. That's what it is. Yep. All right. We kind of talked about it a little bit. I had this as a topic before we even talked about it earlier, but I still want to ask, overrated or underrated 100 rep sets? Underrated. So you utilize them for other things other than just punishing yourself on squat, right? Like you do some different training stuff that might not be normal for what some people consider normal, right?

might not be normal for what some people consider normal right yeah i i'm a firm believer in training high reps uh you know get the heavy stuff out of the way and then it's just all reps from there yeah so like your excess say it's um i don't know you're doing triceps that's skull crushers or tricep push-downs or whatever the hell it is. Will you do, I mean, will you commonly do 100 rep sets with that sort of stuff? No, not with that. Okay. Leg extensions, leg curls, stuff like that. I mean, I'm not saying I don't ever do 100 reps for arms. Right.

You know, I just take it day by day. I don't really set out a plan. I just go by feel. Yeah. You know, if I'm feeling a little banged up and i want to go lighter you know i'll go lighter and you know do hundreds of reps right so but i definitely believe high reps definitely have their place even for power lifting for sure yeah uh okay this is the last one and this one's worth all the marbles.

So overrated or underrated shooting Jakes? Underrated. So could you explain that for a lot of people that might not know what it means if you say you're shooting Jakes? So a Jake is just a male turkey that hasn't grown its full beard. They usually don't call them Toms until they're, you know, two years old. Jake just has a short beard. And they're just like a teenage turkey, I guess, so to speak. But, you know, I've shot plenty of Jakes when I first started turkey hunting.

And, you know, I take my nephew turkey hunting. He shot some Jakes. I mean, you know you know gotta start somewhere same same thing with same thing with lifting you know you know i don't start out benching 600 pounds started with the bar just like everybody else so are they easier to shoot than the than the more mature turkey then uh no no i don't think shooting any turkeys easy uh they're they're all very smart and uh very alert there's no curiosity about them at all okay so sometimes they can be a little more dumb than a mature bird but uh okay not easy at all because you do Because I don't know. This is from Big Dylan.

He's down in Texas, close to the Texas-Louisiana border. He's a listener, and he's a big hunter. He's a big turkey hunter himself. So he had a whole list of actually just turkey hunting topics that he said I could ask you. But this was the one that really stuck out to me that I was interested in. Because he said that maybe this one's a polarizing one. Do some people say, oh, you're not supposed to shoot jakes or something? Is that something someone might say that you shouldn't do that?

I would say that there's a lot of factors that would come into play with that. If you have a piece of property where there's a lot of birds, you know, a lot of jakes, you know, it wouldn't hurt to take one. But then you also got to remember, you know, next year that bird's going to be a tom. So it's just a preference, you know.

I mean, I wouldn't say shoot up all the jakes. Right. You know. All right, I'm going say shoot up all the Jakes. Right. You know. All right. I'm going to hit you with one more because I just looked back up at his list, and he said that shooting Jake's one would be good, which I liked. The other one he said that we should ask you that so I don't leave this one out. Overrated or underrated?

Tungsten shot. Underrated. So that's just instead of steel or what? I mean, yeah, I believe it shoots faster. That's, that's some nasty stuff. So is it more expensive for shells? Tungsten shots? Very, very expensive.

Yeah. I mean, a box of five shells. I've seen them, you know, $90. Whoa. They come in a box of five shells, I've seen them, you know, $90. Whoa. They come in a box of five shells? Yeah. You don't want to be missing with those. No, you don't miss with those.

Holy crap, you don't want to do target practice with those either. No, you don't. Wow. And, you know, usually when I sight my shotgun, and I usually sight it in with the bullets I'm going to be using. Right. Yeah, I mean, I definitely use them. sight my shotgun and I usually sight it in with the bullets I'm going to be using. Right. Yeah. I mean, I've, I've definitely used them.

I don't use them all the time, but, uh, yeah, they're, they're expensive. Can you notice a difference? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's, uh, I don't even really know what, uh, shotgun shells, what the going rate is for a box of shells anyways but i don't know i suppose even even if it's not tungsten shot what's just a good box of not tungsten shot

uh something you'd use to actually go hunt turkeys with what would that what would they cost i assume it's not cheap either i would uh these are the shells i shoot the most of they're uh they're made by heavy shot they're called magnum blend it's the blend of the five six and seven that i mentioned earlier uh box of five shells is probably i don't know 32 34 dollars somewhere in there killed a lot of turkeys with those okay they would be my favorite shell yeah okay that's kind of reasonable then when you're talking about five for 90 i'm like it's expensive and you can you can shoot those at a lot farther distances too uh but you know to me i don't want to shoot a turkey that's 60 yards that's not fun yeah i like to bring them in close you know 15 20 yards get the full experience yeah that makes sense so are you uh you're used

calls then i suppose when you're turkey hunting you're calling them in yeah what's uh so is there is there an art to just a good turkey to be in a good turkey collar like i it's not as easy as it is easy just blowing into a turkey call i mean i suppose it takes some uh skill it takes a little bit but you don't have to be a good caller to kill turkeys. You know, there's a saying that a turkey would never win a turkey calling contest. And that's true. Very true. I like these guys that win those contests.

I mean, they sound amazing. Better than the actual turkeys sound. Better than the actual turkeys, yeah. But that doesn't you know that doesn't mean you're gonna that doesn't mean you're a better turkey hunter right that's a good that's a good one yeah yeah okay uh awesome we're just adding up adding it up now and it looks like you passed overrated underrated so good deal pretty big achievement yeah awesome okay uh what uh we you know we follow you on instagram and stuff is if someone wanted to see what you're up to and stuff like

that is where is that where you would tell people to go is uh follow you on instagram or what would you tell them get lost no yeah either instagram or get lost. That's all I got to say. Come to Ohio and buy some sweet corn? Yeah, there you go. The first few years I had Instagram, I didn't even do it. I had some other people do it for me. I'm not a big social media guy at all. There's definitely some perks to having it, though.

If I didn't have it, I wouldn't be sitting here talking to you guys right you probably i mean you probably wouldn't end up at uh and lifting at the strength co at the arnold and some other people like that so you know nobody nobody knew about me until i you know until i had instagram right which was fine with me you know that's still fine that's just my personality you know right it's fine's fun. You're not doing it to get internet famous? No. I like being that dark horse. You know, it just shows up, and people are like, man, who's that guy? There is something to be said about that, too, though, when you're like, who the hell is this guy?

He just shows up once a year, and that's it. I would say the first thing I popped up, it wasn't that long ago. It was earlier this year. And it must have been some deadlift video that went really viral or something. Because I feel like for a week there, I kept seeing the same deadlift video. And I don't know what you were pulling. It was eight something. But I think I saw it in like 20 different places or something over the course of a week.

And that was kind of the first I picked up on you, I think. Yeah, it's hard telling. I don't know. It seems like some videos get a lot and others don't get any, like my video of me doing nine, 10 deadlift doesn't hardly get any views, but my, you know, these, these videos, me pulling in the eights, beltless have just blown it up. Right. Yeah. I just try to do the best I can at the end of the day that's all i can do yeah it's all anybody can do really yeah right um no we really appreciate you coming on i think this is a lot of fun people like listening to this it was cool to see you see you at the arnold

this year hopefully we get to see you next year and let us know whenever you want to come uh come to south dakota and do some pheasant hunting for sure and I'll bring you some sweet corn. Bring us some sweet corn. We got a gym here. We can set you up. We should have enough plates. I think we're going to dig enough plates out to fit on the deadlift bar for you. Yeah. If not, I'll just throw my body weight on there and maybe squat it a hundred times.

There we go. Now you're talking. Yeah. Squat your body weight a hundred times now. That would probably not be very fun either. Nah, maybe, maybe only about five or six reps maybe. Awesome. All right.

Well, no, we do appreciate you coming on. This was fun. Yeah, thank you very much. I had a good time. Thanks a lot, Steve. See you. Thank you. You guys take care.

Yeah, you too. Thanks. Cool beans. Cool beans. Cool beans. Cool beans. Those are sweet. You too. Thanks. Those are sweet. Cool beans. Those are bodacious. I was looking for some, some exotic word to use there.

You got me. Isn't that kind of funny the way that they name all of those? It is. What are you trying to sell here? Yeah. That was good good that was fun yeah got a lot of uh agricultural yeah hunting talk a lot of uh talk that would be reminiscent to what you would hear at any small town cafe is what just took place there hunting farming it's the only oddity is the benching 650 pounds and deadlifting part that doesn't fit yeah doesn't often come up at the local cafe but uh the rest

of it would fit in yes uh good stuff uh yeah we got to get big steve here get him yeah he'd have a good time big lifts in the gym do a little do a little we could do a little bird hunting vlog that would just be fun to do when was last time you went pheasant hunting i have not gone pheasant hunting since i well let me see what the last time actually was it was probably it was over 10 years ago for sure i'm by numbers might be almost close to 15 years ago i used to go all i went pheasant hunting probably like 10 years in a row oh and i've gone like 10 to 15 without ever i'm not really even an outdoorsy guy or anything and i used to look forward a couple

times a year to going pheasant hunting because there'd be you'd get i had an uncle that had some property where you know he knew where the birds were at everything and you'd get, I had an uncle that had some property where, you know, he knew where the birds were at everything and you'd show up and I don't know, there'd be 15 of you and you know, everyone's just having the best time of your life. You're like driving trucks off road. Everyone's kind of being an idiot and you're hitting the field. Oh, it would be, it would be such a fun day. And if it went great, you'd only be out a couple hours and be a nice fall day like it'd be so much fun and yeah i bet i bet i haven't gone pheasant hunting now and it's probably close to 10 years for me too when i was in college we would get like five to ten us together a couple

vehicle loads and road hunting or well no we'd had enough people locally that oh yeah yeah sorry that's you know we'd go drive you guys might have to go drive 20 miles, you know. You guys are in the prime country there, so it's. Right, right, yeah. We'd go drive 20 miles and go to a cool spot and then do it, and it's fun, and then everyone starts drinking by the time it's over. Like, that's fun. Yep, that's when the real parties, yeah, you're just. Pheasant hunting is a social activity.

Oh, it is, it is. It totally is. It's not deer hunting is significantly more secluded and private. Yeah, for people that don't hunt, I don't know if, like, It totally is. It's not deer hunting is significantly more secluded and private. Yeah. For people that don't hunt, I don't know if like that, that deer hunting is like, you're quiet, you know, in the trees waiting for the, and you could be there for hours. Pheasant hunting is like, no, you just go to this field. You walk down it. And the whole time you're doing it, you're like screaming and yelling at your friends.

And yeah, it's a very, very social activity. And that's what makes it so fun. Yes. Or you could do some road hunting, you know, road hunting was a little more common. And yeah. Yeah. That yeah that's fun too and it's it's fun to shoot a pheasant oh you're like if there's a little little uh adrenaline rush to it because it surprises you a lot of times you don't exactly yeah you're always it's like there's a reaction time yeah right good stuff you know i grew up doing that like i have pictures of me when i'm like barely old enough to stand and i'm holding like you know pheasants in each hand you know like i remember being you know well before i was ever even kindergarten and anything and like my dad

teaching me how to wring the neck of a really that young scared of the pheasants you know until i like you know figured it out and then eventually i was like you know i'm not scared you know this is actually fun a little sick but you think about it because that's the other thing if you don't know, a lot of times you'll just, the pheasant won't be instantly dead. You have to go grab the pheasant by the neck and you kill it. You know, you ring the neck, you ring its neck. Sounds a little bit graphic if you're not into hunting, but it's probably humane. Better than letting it suffer for 12 straight hours and slowly die. Right, right.

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well we talked about your gym stuff a little more. I think we got to talk about it. You know, we brushed on it. We talked about it in depth last week, but I guess what the follow-up is is what have you done? Yeah, so what has happened? My plates showed up. You talked about a lot of plans.

Yes, my plates showed up on Thursday, last Thursday. So, you know, the next day after recording, they did arrive here. And that's the first time I ever got to unbox strength code plates. It's a real thing of beauty. It's a real exciting thing. They're all boxed up into it. It's like opening up, you know, like 12 presents. You just open another box.

Got a lot of cardboard to mess with. There is a lot of cardboard in my garage over the last couple of weeks here. But the plate, they're great. They're amazing. They're so nice. I the plate they're great they're amazing they're so nice i mean they look they still they hold up incredibly well but there's something about a brand new strength co-plate that's just yeah it's uh it's a it's a special thing so got those all in there i went and got my stall mats keith was getting me a little freaked out that I was going to have all some type of mismatched garbagey mats available. But I went to Tractor Supply, went and got my mats and they matched 100% exactly the little.

Grant gave me like a two by two cut out square when he was throwing stuff at me at the Arnold. It matches exactly that. It's like black smooth with just a very light white flake line in it, you know? Right. So the mats are great. Actually, I got to be honest, moving them wasn't too bad. And you know what the difference maker is? When you don't got to move those damn things up and down stairs,

it makes life significantly easier. Yeah, you didn't really have to move it very far, I suppose, if you back up to the garage. Well, you back up to the, you know, in the yard at the yard at the tractor you didn't have to move through any small doorways no nothing yeah if you all you got to do is back up to the tractor supply the guy helps you put it in no big deal you get it in there you get back it up to your garage door you pull it out of there you get it right to your spot it's nothing there's no there's no work so that is way easier when all you got to do is move it into a garage right yeah so that's a good point so i got and you only had to get a couple yeah and only a couple yep so i already think i need

to get one more uh because i the way i have it right now i have them i actually just bought two so the way i have it right now it's set up so it would be uh uh what am i number uh eight by eight by six is the way it's set up right now i think i'm gonna get one more and turn it sideways and i can go a little bigger just to have a little more what do you be yeah because we talked about the math on the six like you can deadlift off of that yeah and you can but right but it's just tight and yeah and grant has i have that perfect two by two square from Grant. So all I would need is another four by six. And then that makes a whole nother four foot section that would line up perfectly with what I have. So at that point, then I would be at like a 10 by eight, which is, which is a fairly good area to work. I mean, this is totally

doable right now. There's nothing wrong with it. It just would give me just a little more area, but so I might get one more. So the first day I got to bench and first time I got to use the new rep 5200 bench and that bench is awesome. It's really good. The bench looks great. You know, I was telling you, we've got to use, we have two elite FTS benches at the gym. We have the wide pad, the regular pad. We have the ghost combo rack with a bench in it. We have the top, you know, they have the Don Thompson fat pad. We got the shorter version of it. We got a lot of, we got the stray dog bench. We got a lot of benches. And I mean, I'd put this bench right up there with the best of them. It's a really good bench for 500 bucks. You know yeah you know when you consider for 500 you're getting a two-tone color or any color of

your picking you can mix and match the colors however you want you got the 12 inch wide pad it's big it for weighing 120 pounds or whatever it weighs it's one of those things where it's a it's tricky because it feels a lot lighter than what it is the way it's weighted you know so yeah love the bench have no buyer's remorse there feel great about that that was a so that you'd say it's good reason that people like that but i 100 get it yep after using benches that are dedicated flat benches using adjustable benches from lots of different price points just different styles of benches i mean for 500 bucks i feel like this thing is an easy recommendation i i'd actually now at this point be curious to try the 400 one and see how different is the cheaper is it the 4100 like uh you know but it's not that much cheaper even

so we're talking like a i know that is the thing is what it would have saved yeah like that is the thing is is it like is it that different does it does it go down in quality a lot for a hundred dollars? And then is this just the easy recommendation or is like, well, actually it's a hundred dollars cheaper and it's just barely different. So if you're price conscious, I don't know. I would just be interested to see like, what is that jumping quality for a hundred bucks with rep there? Right. And also I, you know, I've never put gym equipment together. It's kind of an, an an interesting thing the engineering that goes into it the way that they ship it and get it to you to put it together in a way that's not a total

pain in the ass but also that so that it can ship somewhat economically and package up their battle yeah that's the give and take is trying to be able to ship it economically and this did ship in three boxes one is for the frame one is for the pad and one is for the the latter portion of it okay or the let you know the the closed portion of the list so there was there was a chip for free right and it ships free and it ships and it arrives in a week too it's baked into the cake yeah yeah that still shows that the price is you know i mean it's pretty competitive very good yeah and on top of that yeah you're picking the color you want too, which is just, yeah, impressive. So I was impressed with rep so far.

I think that's, you know, we don't have, I don't know if we have any rep stuff in the gym, do we? We have some of those rep plates that have the holes in them. Really? Yeah, I've bought those used when I bought those Rogue Deep Dish used plates. Oh, they came with that okay yeah i think i kept a couple pairs of them and i jake the snake did he take some took a couple pairs of those when those came up for sale i don't think i i think i just maybe i just kept one pair i just

because i wanted the just to have i just like a variety of plates so i think is there anything rep besides that down there there's not any equipment of rep down there. No bars, right? No barbells. Yeah, I don't think so. No racks. I'm thinking there was a couple other little things, but those plates are the only thing that stick out to me. Okay.

I don't think there is anything of any significance, but I was looking, you know, we talked about the dumbbell storage. My dumbbell storage thing. That's right, yes. And carp and a few other people. Then in the Discord this week too, I can't remember which support, which crew member it was,

but they pointed out this rep possible solution and that could be a contender, especially for the price point. And it would also, it looks good too. It does look good. It is an attractive option and it does seem the price is right. And also the fact that you can get

it in a week or whatever uh is hard to be too right i've actually just been measuring you know it's a definitely a viable option i just i'm truth be told i'm waiting until we go to home gym con because i don't know what all i'm going to be able to get the chance to see in person between all the vendors that are there that's smart though yeah this is like one of the few times in your life you'll get to sort of do some in-person browsing and shopping. So I figured I might as well, any equipment buying, I might as well wait until home gym con at this point because there's a good chance I'll see it there. That's a good call. I did see when people were putting that recommendation in there and I just, I looked at that a little bit,

I thought that would look pretty good in that area. You know, it's not the ultra premium option, but it's still a pretty damn good option good option yeah it's a good option but now i'm actually my thing is you know the keith brought it up in their episode even is the height i was doing some measuring up to the on the mirrors of how high this would go and i'm like is that too tall well you know for because of where the mirrors are because of the extra height though how many of those racks would you need i still need a lot of them i probably still need three three but on the when you're looking you know when you go to the gym that first mirror that's straight ahead of you

to the right you know where the really heavy dumbbells are that mirrors up higher than the other ones isn't it yeah so it is correct and actually i did some measuring on that as a comparison and this like that rep rack for example it goes up 60 inches the uprights are 60 inches and the bottom of that mirror on the tall side you know this yep the tall mirror the the mirror that it's a higher higher up that starts at like 56 inches oh so these uprights would go just a little bit above the bottom of that mirror which to me that one would so how many of those racks could you fit on that wall right there that on that that wall yeah that's all only like one and a half that wouldn't that wouldn't even be half of what i would need still okay i have to use the main wall god okay i didn't know if maybe you could get them all over there

and then i thought i basically solved to fit them all i need two full ones on the main wall and probably one and a half because they also make a shorter shelf so i could go one plus a a half on the i could actually think i think i could get away with three of the full ones but i have to put two full ones on the main side. When you say full, is full in reference to the width or the height? The width and height, actually. I have to do two of the widest, tallest ones. I need three of the widest, tallest ones. Because, yeah, I do see, though, on that front wall straight ahead, that's pretty tall on there.

Yes, it's pretty tall. But the other thing is 60 inches is the top of the uprights, which there's only so how tall is the shelf there'd be three uprights well that's up to you oh okay see i was thinking the top shelf was at 60 inches and that's really high for a top shelf yeah the shelf would be because you don't most people don't put the shelf on the very top of the but then there's dumbbells on the shelf and the dumbbells have some height to them but but it'd be the smallest dumbbells on that. So there again, I want to see it in person and just like visualize some of that a little bit more if I have the chance, as long as I have the

chance, but it's, it would, it is a, it is like a foot taller than I would want it to be. Yeah. But it might be the sacrifice, honestly. Like, if I could have really nice... To save thousands of dollars. Right. And also, like, it's still really nice looking. It's just, like, I guess the sacrifice is you can't see the lower, you know, you're like,

you can't see, like, below your belly button in the mirror. And I'm like, I don't, does that matter? I mean, I suppose it does matter to some people. I don't care. You just have to figure something out. Right. I'm like,

I'm, this has never been a mirror gym to begin with. Yeah. And I, and I get that. I was thinking in my head that anything below 60 inches, you just don't see because there's literally a shelf in your face. No,

but it's not that much lower. It might be anything below like 55 inches. You don't see, you know, so it's still pretty tall. Yeah, that's so many dumbbell racks. It's just so much space there. Okay, yeah, so anyways, though, initial impressions, though, this is the first piece of equipment in any way that I've dealt with rep,

and I am impressed. I got to give him credit. I am impressed with initial reactions to using. How many JD Power and Associates Awards would you give out of five? Like a four, it sounds like. I was going to say four is the number. I have a hard time giving equipment a right away number

when it's brand new because, God, if your equipment can't be good just right out of the box, then your equipment sucks. Yeah. So, yeah, I've got to give them a four right now. And also, though, the real test to me is when you put something in Massanomics GM, what does it look like six months to a year from now? Because that's when you're really putting –

You won't really have to worry about that because it's just going to get lightly used by one person. And you're the one person that cares the most about it. Yes. Unless this thing is shitty, it's going to basically look like new a year from now still you know like that's not the problem so like you don't ever get to really do a real durability you don't get the real wear test like when you're a home gym owner no no melsonomics gives it the real test is a year from now how does this thing hold up then you know that it's a it's the real deal but yeah bench so i got to have a bench day it was awesome it worked out it was one of those days where it was on the weekend.

The kids were napping and I'm like, I'm going into the gym. And that worked great. Like it was, it was perfect. It worked. It worked like just like what you would have planned. Yes. And also, also the way it worked is my wife had to take the boy and leave to go to something. And if I was at the gym, I would have had to have packed up way early to go home to be there while my daughter was taking her nap. But because I'm in the garage, it's all good. I'm

in the, I can keep working out. Yeah. And she can keep, she can keep sleep. It was perfect. Like that was, I told my wife, I'm like this already saved me this day. Like I would, if this gym wasn't here, we would have been having the conversation where I would either had to say, see ya, you're going to figure out nap time on your own, or I just wouldn't have gone to the gym at that time. And actually the first lift I did, the first lift I did in the gym on bet, which was the bench day was, uh, I actually went out to the gym after everyone went to bed at, uh, eight o'clock at night. I couldn't tell you the last time I worked out after 6 PM. It was probably, Did you feel just excited to go?

Yeah, I was too excited to not go out. And also bench day is an easier one. I'd have a struggle getting amped up for squat or deadlift day at 8 o'clock at night. But yeah, I was too excited to not go out and bench. So yeah, that was the day I got to break in the bench, 8 o'clock at night. And it felt good. It was awesome. It was a lot of fun.

But the next day was the squat day and man, it is cold out there in the gym right now. It was, I don't have a thermometer out there yet, but you know, the temperature right now is what? 10 degrees or whatever. And it is an,

it's been a long time since she put the sweats on. No big deal. Yeah. You warm up pretty fast that's not really the problem it's the barbell is so damn cold and it's been a long time since i've worked out where my body is sweating but my hands and my feet are freezing frozen and you do transfer a decent amount of heat to the barbell so that gets better but it still is it's it's chilly out there it really needs to warm it's supposed to be back up in the 50s or 60s next week that will not take that's a very short term yeah it should be short-lived but

yeah these first that that second day was annoying how how that actually the temperature changed on me there right um so you got to bench in there and what oh that's what i was going to ask you did you how have you felt like about your accessory lifts then so that would be the one yeah less access of do you feel like you have enough stuff you can do that you're fine still i really i really need to get a set of like 20 and this has been talked about a lot in the discord i need to get a set of like 20 pound dumbbells that's that's my main go-to i mean i can go heavier in accessories but also are for dumbbells but the type of things i'm usually doing with dumbbells are curls or some type of like a lateral raise or front raise, something

like that. Right. And I can make those really hard if I just slow it down and do a full range of motion. Like it's, I can go way heavier for sure. You know, I can go way heavier, but I can make those suck really bad if I want to. And and so that and that's typically the weight i would use in the gym for those so that's the the biggest thing i'm missing right now i would say is some 20 pound dumbbells would do me well and i really want i kind of get that i just got over a dip attachment like that that would be of assistance and the biggest one that i see the gap being in is on juggernaut is when you start looking at hamstring training and you're looking at things like that, you potentially get in the gym,

a GHR or a leg curl, you know, things like that. Those are reverse hyper, reverse hyper. Those are all things that are a lot harder to fake in the gym. Yeah. So that's the way I got to do like Nordic curl and stuff. And I know that's a thing. So fake in the gym yeah so that's there are ways to do like nordic

curls and stuff you know and i know that's a thing so that's not quite the same maybe it's not it's not quite the same yeah so there's things there's things there i just got to determine what is the best option um and figure that one out but that that's the other ones can be solved for relatively little money so and that is an actual answer like it's going to put me right back to being at the gym but the the biggest one would be what how do i hit the hamstrings in a way that uh because the other gyms have always had a machine you do rdls is something you can obviously do i know but a lot of times like when i'm trying to do that it's i've done deadlift already right yeah i know that's what i know it's hard to follow up deadlift with rdls yeah it's like

you're mimicking that movement you're already pretty burnt out on it yeah and you can do um good mornings would be another thing that same thing i'm always just super cautious after doing deadlifts to just do more stuff like that that's it's nice to then be able to do like a back raise i've yeah i've always had. Or a GHR. Yep, all the gyms I've gone to have either had a GHR or some type of leg curl machine. So I could always count on that. And now, or a Recyper even.

So not having any of those, that is a little bit of a deficiency. I could see, you know, I've never thought, never really struck me. I get ads for them all the time. They're almost like these, I don't know, posterior chain machines that are made for a home gym where they're not that big. And they almost like move into like two or three different configurations so that you can, I I'll just, next time I get the ad for it, I'll just screenshot it. I swear if I scrolled down Facebook,

I'd see it in the next five seconds. It's funny how much my Facebook ads or my Instagram ads have changed in the last week. Holy. It knows what you're doing. It's like a total shift. I used to never get ads for anything. And now I'm getting ads from every fitness equipment company on the planet. Most of them I've never even heard of.

That's I swear. I swear to God, if I scroll this for just a couple seconds, I'd be just, I'm like, how can it not show up? Because I swear I see it every day when I look, but, um, actually here is one. This is not the usual one.

This was, what is this? The isolator, um, the isolator from bulletproof fitness equipment. Yeah, I'm not going to get into that but i'm gonna i will screenshot the next one but i what my point is if you could if there was a relatively compact machine that gave you a couple different variations of how you could do those that i could see that being like a possible thing that yeah that would be a potential option because that that really is the hardest one to to achieve right now. Other than that, I can work around everything else pretty good or actually not even some days.

I don't even need to change up my workout at all. Like it's just I got everything I'm doing already. What about would you ever have a use for? We're kind of doing last week's episode over again as I think about more things. But what about would could you ever see a use for like the strength coat? Easy curl bar. Like, could you do more? could you maybe i've never been a huge i've honestly always preferred dumbbell curls over barbell curls i don't know with an easy curl bar you could do curls and you could do lying try you know you do tricep crushers and you know there's a couple

more and i and the arm accessory movements are not the trickiest part. No, our accessories are fairly easy to hit there. So that's not that big of a deal. But I've always preferred because anytime you start doing curls with a bar, I feel like it's way easier to just start cheating those. Yeah. Something about dumbbell curls. To me, they're really hard to cheat. And I can I feel it.

I feel it. My bicep way more. Well, I do think different people feel different ones better and worse definitely like that is totally a thing like yeah train around enough guys at the gym and you see there's certain guys that they always do these accessories because they think they feel the best and i i always do other ones because i think they feel the best so it's yep there is a certain amount of preference there any other good uh takeaways so far on the first week or so? The biggest one has just been the weather has sucked.

Like it's, you know, when we're below freezing, it's like, actually the time was in the gym. My wife had to leave. They took off, you know, I was finishing up my last set on bench and while I'm doing my sets, I can see my breath shooting into the air. Hot dog would do it though. It would. And that's, that is something I'm seriously considering. my sets i can see my breath shooting into the air yeah uh hot dog would do it though it would and that's that is something i'm seriously considering but yeah like in my head i don't i didn't have to think about that for at least five months about that yeah i didn't think i had to thought about

that for a long time while all of a sudden we're just getting like this late spring uh cold snap in here so it'll be but you have already started to be able to realize the advantages of it though it sounds like yes absolutely it's already it's already it's already like ah yes this home gym is paying dividends already i feel like i need to get uh some type of i don't know table reverse hyper type item you know to set things on when i'm in the gym you know i got i gotta set the stereo on something i gotta have my phone to set on something you know maybe i gotta have a table of some kind so is the stereo working out all right then i actually haven't even hooked it up yet because i don't know what where to position it okay so as of right now i've just been bringing a speaker out with me to listen to music but i want the stereo set up i just don't know the proper

positioning of it all yet yeah you know i kind of like that roll that rollable table we got at the massonomics gym like that's kind of nice but that's also sort of overkill you know i kind of like that roll that rollable table we got at the massonomics gym like that's kind of nice but that's also sort of overkill you know our filming table we use for stuff oh that's a nice table it's sort of overkill though maybe if there was one like a third of the size i know that that was too big then they make it in a lot of different lengths i was looking at it right you know that one is nice too because you can move it up and down i know that's pretty sturdy exactly yes you can wheel it up and down. I know. And it's pretty sturdy. Exactly.

Yes, you can wheel it wherever you need to, get it out of the way if it needs to move somewhere. People use that all the time because that is what that is. You know, that is a, like I'm over squatting or deadlifting, I set my shit there. Yes, your gym needs a spot just to kind of set things. We bought that for filming, but that actually like gets used in the gym a lot.

It does. And it's a nice table for it too and everyone's got their log books and all that stuff and everyone throws their jackets and cups and yeah yeah we actually massomics gym is big enough we we have to have about four of those stations you know gyms need those though they do it is a thing right and if you don't have that, people will go to the reverse hyper. That's how it works. Yes, it is. This episode is brought to you by Build Fast Formula. Build Fast Formula, our friends right out of Watertown, South Dakota,

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We'll save you 15%. Thank you, SwissLink. Quick sports notes. I don't know if you've watched it at all, but my hot take is, maybe this isn't even that hot take this year, but I never thought I would say this, to be perfectly honest, and believe it.

But the women's March Madness tournament bracket is the more must-see TV right now than the men's is it uh on women women's college basketball yes Caitlin Clark is must-see TV right now the hype is worth it also uh South Carolina and LSU are both very teams aren't't they? Yeah. And they have both have captivating players along with USC. So as long as these, some of these big, as long as Caitlin Clark and either a USC or LSU can all keep advancing here, there'll be something really interesting coming in the women's college

basketball, which I honestly would never have believed that that's true. And I, I do believe that that's true. I watched Caitlin Clark last night. Well, and UConn's really good too, aren't they? And yeah,

yeah. But I think there, what's that one girl page on there. Isn't she, that might be right. Or maybe there are better. I can't remember. I know they're made it.

They made it like 30 straight years of the Sweet 16 making it now, which is crazy. I mean, UConn girls are always good. Yeah, they're a three seed. Yeah, they just beat Syracuse. I've watched that. Paige Buckers, Bukers, I don't know how you say it. I think she's from Minnesota, I believe.

Yeah, she's also – doesn't she have borderline Caitlin Clark-ish numbers? She might. See, and I don't even, I guess that's the thing you start to learn better about the. Okay. This is okay. So just actually on this topic. All right. I'm just doing a little social profile looking here because some of these girls, it is crazy. Okay.

Caitlin Clark, Instagram followers, Tanner, how many? A million. 1.1 million. Yeah. She's got a lot of gatorade ads and oh she's plastered all over hy-vee when you're in hy-vee god like she has got to be raking like i wonder like her nil deals might be better than any man in college basketball i don't know if that's true or not but like it's gotta be up there gotta be more valuable than any man in college basketball. I don't know if that's true or not, but it probably should be. She's more valuable than any of them right now. Okay, all right.

So we're going to keep playing this game, though. All right, so that's Kaitlyn Clark, 1.1 million, just because I'm going with the very few players that I know their names of. This Paige, I said their name. I don't even know what you're saying, your last name. Yeah, this Paige at UConn. What's her Instagram, people, Tanner? I got it here Paige at UConn. What's her Instagram people, Tanner? I got it here.

You got to guess. What's her follower count? 150,000. 1.1 million as well. Oh. What's her name? Paige, B-U-E-C-K-E-R-S. Okay.

Yeah, I don't. I mean, I did just watch that game and everything, but I can't believe she has that many. Yep. Okay. Now, next one. Angel Reese. How many followers does she have?

She's got to have a lot too, right? I don't know. She's got to have over a million. I don't know. She's got to have. I'd say she's got a million too, I guess. 2.7 million. Okay, yeah.

That's a lot. Yeah, I mean, that is a ton. But your face is on national, I mean, you are one of the faces of that entire league, and you're on TV borderline every other night now. The only other one I, well, what's from usc it's like joe uh um juju juju watkins from usc there you go and i haven't seen them play i've just caught a few highlights her would be an interesting one to look up and then the the the center from south carolina okay juju watkins here we go god she's 18 okay so yeah she's at a half million and then how about camilla cardoso

she is that she's on south carolina is that? Yeah. She is at 6'7". Damn. Yeah. 136,000. So she's a lot lower on that list. Yeah. I kind of had maybe guessed that that was the case. Okay.

But, yeah, that's my hot take is the women's basketball. So what it's going for, though, is they have these big personalities in it. Yeah. Not to say that men don't have big personalities but i don't know maybe this has been missing from women's basketball for a little bit well and uh part of it this is i actually don't know this i haven't heard anyone say it but i just wonder is the pay of the wnBA so unenticing that unlike the NBA that you get a Caitlin Clark. Yeah, you can actually get a Caitlin Clark that stays and breaks all the career records because people will actually stay in women's college basketball for four or five seasons. Because the eyes will stay on you.

And as soon as you leave, the eyes are going to leave too. Right, right. Yeah. She might as well, you know. I'm sure someone had to have looked into that i mean that is a plausible theory right right the other sports thing this could be a better conversation off of the podcast but i just want to bring it up before i forget is my favorite basketball team my my local hometown basketball team, the transfer portal thing is really becoming insane.

It's ripping apart the team. Oh, is it really? It's already done that to an extent. And this year there was two standouts on the team. They've both entered the transfer portal. So they're gone. They're going to both be gone. The two best players. This year was like one of their worst years that they've ever had that i ever remember

uh like they didn't have a winning record and that never happens and now the two one a tier player in this division you know like a top tier player he's gone he entered the portal and then our second best player who's like an A or B tier player also, he's gone. And now they announced someone today. I'm like, you were barely a starter. And you're entering the portal. On a poor team.

And you're leaving. And now I heard rumors about the coach taking interviews other places. And I say this to say the transfer portal thing is screwing over at least the legacy way that this team handled business yes and um i don't know what's even going to happen because with the current roster they won't even be able to play with anyone in the like yeah they cannot play with these with the people that are gone so they have to start getting more transfers in. That is the only way to be able to stay competitive on this is to have your transfers in match your transfers out, obviously.

But I don't know how they do that. Yeah. Historically, they've recruited and developed players, and the players become good over years. Yeah, and it's averaging still a small-town thing. People don't realize it, probably, but it's averaging still a small-town thing. People don't realize it probably, but it's very much the loyalty thing of, no, once you're in the program,

you're in the program for life. We have a 50-year history of program players that go on to be awesome players of the program, and everyone keeps track of where people are at on the all-time scoring list and all these all-time records. I mean, it sounds silly for all the outsiders that would be listening to this but it is important locally to you know and a lot of people don't get this aberdeen so we're talking about northern state university in aberdeen right they have set the d2 because it's d2 so they've set the d2

basketball attendance record for in women's and men's like every single year. Yeah. Basically like it's not uncommon for several thousand people to go watch these games every day, like on Friday night and Saturday night. And then if it's a special event, they'll like, Oh, like, I mean, yeah, like there'll be 5,000 people watching a basketball game because that's the thing to do in the winter time.

There's nothing like they, you know, it, it it's weird that's the timing going for it yes you can look at you know you'll look at a lot of teams they play are in Sioux Falls here and like those same teams in Sioux Falls are playing in like a smaller high school gym like yeah it's a college but it's like it's like picture your gym in high school like I looks like I. And yeah, they're like playing in a small version of that. Whereas in Aberdeen, they're playing in a 5,000-seat arena. That gets pretty full at times. I mean, there's times where they can borderline sell it out. So it is a huge point of pride and attention in the community is to go to this.

So I don't know. I'll be the first to admit, i don't know you know i'm i'll be the first to admit i don't know how this stuff works but i don't know what what is the answer there besides you just have a really awesome coach that's the best at recruiting that's i mean that's what it comes down to isn't it just shows that recruiting is like i mean it's always been very important i don't want to but it's not just recruiting new guys it's also recruiting the portal guys too we need to to recruit portal guys like we need people that are trying to make an advance up and this is the advancement we're getting all these people now

that are trying to advance out of this level we need to be recruiting people in that this is their move up like that they're good enough and also this move up also for some for some perspective here the program was they were national runner-ups what a couple times a couple times in the last four or five years so like the program has had a lot of success recently and now that's yeah but as soon as the transfer portal thing became a thing it changed the program overnight and it hasn't like quite recovered you know actually um we have had you know the year before that like we went to the national championship and lost i think and then like we had there was a really really good year in there and then that awesome year

there was like four awesome starters they all left yeah they all bailed out yeah yeah but the coach left too then right yeah yes so and, this coach has just had a harder time finding success. Yes. I think we need a young coach that can like, we need a recruiter coach. I think you need someone that can just shake things up. Yeah. Yeah.

It's a different ballgame. Yeah. That's my sports talk. That's good. I like it. Do we need to wrap it up or do we want to touch on street dances at all first? I guess maybe we can end on that

because we sort of ended on it last time. So people, it was in the Discord, people had mentioned we've used the word street dance multiple times. This was in last week's episode. And people had no idea what we were talking about. What is the street dance? And that was funny to me because i just assume people know what that word means but then when i thought about i thought i thought it was a universally accepted uh known

i did too i did too so there's definitely people listening right now and we'll say we went to or i went to a street dance or i saw him at the street dance or i listened to this band at the street dance people might be saying what the hell are you talking about once i thought about a little more it kind of makes sense i guess huge cities don't have a street dance yeah if you never lived anywhere rural at all like if you never if you lived grew up in a big city and always like we're in a city you would have it wouldn't exist i guess right no but yeah yeah because in big cities you get outdoor concerts and outdoor music festivals. If you grew up in Sioux Falls and always lived in Sioux Falls, would you even know what a street dance is?

You probably would because, I don't know, maybe. But there's enough little tiny towns within, there's 10 towns within 10 miles of here. Right, that would have a street dance. I would be shocked if they all didn't have one. Right, every summer. Yeah, so that's why i think you probably would but then yeah so our our resident uh street dance guitar player mr chris hornick he said that it's a very i called in the expert yeah he said didn't he say it's a very regional he said it

north korea south korea minnesota iowa and what do you say part of wyoming yeah something part of colorado like those were the only states that like that that thing that term means something and some compared it to block party yeah and block parties mean means a little bit something a little bit different I think of a block party and again I don't I've never been to a formal block party like that's not a thing around here but I think of a block party is more of a thing of a neighborhood getting together that's that's we've kind of had that in the neighborhood that I live in now we've had one or two of those where like some of the people will use the word block party and that's kind of what it's like it can be big and a lot

of people but it's not a street dance yeah and with the street dance is what shut you shut down the whole town yeah typically yeah typically for these smaller towns a street dance usually is main street they'll just shut down main street they'll set up a stage on the street you know the roads and all the roads leading into that a lot of times a trailer yeah a lot of times the stage is a flatbed trailer of some kind right and that's what they're the band's up on and it typically coincides with every small town has their festival days of some kind where you know every everything has some name for it right uh what did foreign days did yours have anything what was their name for well in in brentford it was

really more um it was just like the firemen's event there wasn't a name like that okay i know most of them do have that yeah like where i grew up it was farley fest because there was like farley but that was also a little different. They actually had a concert. I had some friends. Or like Ips in Ips, which is Trail Days. That's a little bit different. They have Trail Days. Yeah, because they take it to, like after it graduates past the street dance part,

it gets bigger into like a concert. And some of them do that too. But like even downtown Aberdeen though, they do like a summer concert series where they shut down Main Street. What's it? One Thursday a month for like four months. And they have an outdoor concert. Like usually the concert's free.

You just show up and then you drink beer and, you know, enjoy the summer. At street dances, there's a heavy amount of underage drinking too. Yeah, with all of this, drinking is, everything is based around drinking. It's very... Oh, 100%.

That's the point of it is you get to go drink outside. Like most things are in the Midwest. It's, it revolves around drinking outside because the weather's finally nice. So you got to take advantage of it any way you can. Yes. That usually involves just getting really drunk outside. Regardless of your age.

Yeah. Yeah. And so that's the street dance. Yeah. That's, that's really all there is to it. That was news to me though. I, but it like someone's like what's this you know i've never heard that i'm like really i that's one of those ones i wouldn't have seen and it's always a band like it's never a thing where someone's just playing songs you know it's always there's always

a band you know usually cover band covering the 80s, 90s, 2000, all of those. Depending on how old they are determines how far back they go. It's going to be definitely some butt rock covers, no doubt about that. You're going to hear a fair amount of butt rock covers. You're going to hear a lot of 80s covers as well. Just a small town girl? Yeah, you're going to hear that stuff. Yes, all that type of stuff.

Probably some Jessie's Girl. Yeah yeah oh yeah jesse's girl what actually do you this is a masonomics throwback when you and me professor sean's and cheap trick cheap trick is the answer because that year yeah i like to think i'm the only person in america that accidentally saw cheap trick twice in a year because first we went to sioux city and outside of the hard rock casino they had the four original massonomics uh yes yes it was after we interviewed jona leo massonomics meeting yeah well we interviewed jona and then we're like oh well naturally once we're done in sioux falls we drive down to sioux city so we drive down to Sioux City. So we went down to go to Sean's. But yeah, the Hard Rock Casino outside had Cheap Trick playing. So I saw him there.

And then later that winter, I went to the outdoor hockey game. It was the Wild playing. Oh, yeah. Who the hell is the Chicago team? I don't even follow hockey. Blackhawks. The Blackhawks. Yeah, the Wild were playing the Blackhawks.

And after the first period, entertainment was Cheap'm like really cheap trick again i gotta see him twice in one year uh but yeah you're gonna hear some cheap trick i want you to want me you're gonna get that for sure i'm i feel like when we walked up to cheap trick they were playing like surrender oh yeah i think you're right i think think they were, you know, like I just pictured them playing that too. That yes. Yep. You're right. Some sort.

What were we making? We were making a lot of cheap trick jokes at the time. I thought, I don't know. We might've been, I don't really remember that well. Okay. Just,

there was a lot of people there and I don't know. We drank a lot hopping, hopping between bars. We went to one bar, this little bar, they had karaoke going on in it. I remember't know, we drank a lot. Hopping between bars. We went to one bar, this little bar that had karaoke going on in it. I remember that. Was there a good Johnny Cash karaoke singer? There probably was, yeah. That sounds about right.

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