Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 427: Is a 315 Pound Bench Realistic?

Episode Date: June 10, 2024

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427. We got a laundry list of stuff to get to this week. First of all, we have been talking quite a bit at nba late lately and i just wanted to throw a change up there and i just i hadn't heard you update i know i talked about it one time maybe on the way to home gym con or something but is uh formula one still going on and have you been watching it uh like where's the seat or or does the formula one season just go on indefinitely well they keep adding 11 months long they keep adding. Is it like 11 months long? They keep adding more races every year.

It is about a nine-month season. So, yeah, it sort of does just go on forever. So, it's just always. So, is it just, does it stop like November, December, January or something like that? Yeah, it ends. Because it's just cold everywhere. Is it like the end of November? Yeah, because, I mean, temperature is very, very important.

Yeah. So, yeah, it basically, the off season is like december january february they start testing in march the first race is is at the end of march mid-march actually you know what the first race is usually like the arnold weekend so yeah testing starts in like february so really there's like about two and a half months of off time as well it's like actually that's to be fair a lot of major sports are kind of that way once like like if you talk about baseball once they start like spring training and yeah if you're really into a sport you follow that other shit and if you pay attention yeah

yeah right just the off-season stuff and you know you add in the draft the nfl then you have the draft yeah right right so there's plenty there like if you're an nfl fan which a lot of people are yeah you kind of have something to talk about related to that even once even in the offseason there's all these offseason trades there's just as much to pay attention to at times yeah for sure uh have you seen though that uh the WNBA has been making some waves too I wasn't even thinking about this transition but also it's worth noting the WNBA I've seen the WNBA pop up more than ever on by far I mean like a thousand fold probably I 100% agree which is uh funny because you know we're in the part of the country where the links Minnesota links have traditionally been a very good WNBA very good WNBA team and there's tons of years that i didn't even know they won championships like that's how under the radar it's been it doesn't get discussed or brought up anywhere but with this uh fresh

fresh crop of young bloods entering the wmba it has definitely brought some more eyes to it and it seems like fans are more engaged as well like it actually looks like the stadiums depending on who's playing, can be pretty full. Yeah, there's all sorts of good controversy and stuff going on too. There's that, yep. Well, they got characters in it actually. Not to say they didn't have characters before,

but these people have just managed to leverage social media to their advantage that like no one else has before. And that is what gets people engaged is actually having personalities in the sport. It seems like there's a lot of WNBA old heads that are bitching a little bit about like Caitlin Clark,

which is crazy. And I'm like, are you people insane? Yeah. Like in, in 1980, not in 1990, other NBA players, although they knew Michael Jordan was very good at it,

like if you listen to Isaiah Thomas or any of these other guys talk now, they're like, yes, he made us all rich. You know, he's like, everyone's like, thank God for Michael Jordan. He completely revolutionized our sport, flipped it on its head, and made every one of us five to 50 times richer than we would have been without him like that's kind of what you have here so far i mean to be determined how good you know if she's she's certainly bringing the attention yeah i don't think she's having like any and again i don't think she's having like crazy games like a lot of no i don't think so either but it doesn't

really matter no she's still bringing the the eyes. That's the part that matters. Yeah, absolutely. And I do, I actually do wonder just to a greater extent though, has, is the public just have an insatiable thirst for content? And I mean, content, yes, there is an insatiable thirst for content and sports specifically because like you were, you know, you started this by asking about formula one right you've ever even five years ago could you ever imagine you would start a conversation about someone talking about formula one racing actually five years ago i absolutely would not have even really had a handle on what formula like i knew

the phrase formula one but i wouldn't have been able to pinpoint at all how that's different than like indycar racing right or maybe something other something else more obscure that i barely don't even really know about still you know like i just don't like no i mean really formula one was the netflix series that like yeah drive us around like that yeah that really made it take off but i just wonder though is do people just have such a craving for sports that they're just like, because like Formula One is going through an absolutely insane, I don't know if you want to say renaissance, like there's always been the diehards there. But I mean, it's a global thing.

Like, you know, they go over the world. There's fans everywhere and there's diehards everywhere. And it's now more than ever. Like if you look at ticket prices to try to go to one of the American ones, it's just, the prices are nuts. It's crazy. But then like you look, same thing. WNBA is going crazy. Like NBA is crazy. Like off season stuff. People follow that like crazy. No doubt sports betting has made people way more into sports than they've ever been in their lives. Like that's a good point. Not even to the point of not even just being a fan of the sport to like where they have to obsess over it

because it's actually causing harm to their financial well-being it's funny how the sports betting you used to have to uh like creep down to your local bar and like do some shady and now it's like espn's like use our sports betting oh well and i don't you know like i am totally the guy of like hey yeah let's have like less rules for lots of things, especially societal things where it's just like a guy that wants to do something that's left to his own. Like, yeah, why do we need more rules on that? But the thing that's really annoying about the sports betting is that, man, the ads are

just nuts. That's, I agree. Absolutely. Stop. It is like when the whole otani thing was going on with all that yeah it's like how could this happen um we'll come back to this more uh after a word from caesar sportsbook here and it's like yes because that is all you get hit with ads now is is they're obviously making a killing oh and that's what you i don't believe for a second

anyone that ever says that they're up in the long run in sports betting, because these, these companies could not throw this type of money at it. If 98% of the people weren't just losing all of their money to this. but like there's so few of i mean and everyone we know isn't a perfect you know they're just like nobody anybody knows is they're all just people that are losing money no their best bet is they're just 500 if they're playing right like long they're just it's a hobby that they're breaking even on if but there there are pros at it that run their own lines even and but i mean literally it's their job yeah but no one knows like actual pro but you actually we were talking about this that's getting harder and harder all the time too because right because the information the algorithms are readily available for everyone yeah it gets more sophisticated that so it's built into the actual line yes they're doing everything

they can to go against you so like that's getting harder and harder all the time too right yeah but so i think yeah uh i guess the takeaways would be content you just can't make enough of it people are just constantly on the lookout for content and then sports content on top of that people just people just can't get enough sports content now more than ever i hadn't thought about it much too but i do think what you're right is that the sports betting oh there's just helping all of it i i never realized that actually well it's so many different bets too like when i see them advertising when i'm watching the basketball games they're always advertising you make the it's not like you're not betting who's gonna win oh it's like all these other right and i'm not i'll say this where

because i'm not betting doesn't really do much for me um you know tanner you enjoy a good table game right like we know that and that's a little different sports that's more of a game of skill right but like even at least maybe some heck you know more slightly more probably right for most people than uh than just picking the team you like but um i was never that's just never has been very interesting to me like that's never really just been something that gets me going. But what really opened my eyes to that is I used to be in this bowling league. And we talked about this bowling league a few times way back on the show.

And the average age. How do you think your handicap's getting now that you're not playing? My handicap. Well, it just stays wherever you left it, which isn't good. So if I started bowling again, I'd be in trouble because my handicap was, you know, I was creeping up to about a 180 average. Do you think you could go, would that be your average now? Or do you think you lose it when you don't use it? It's so hard because I think I could, I think if I went bowling right now, I'd maybe have one game that's 150.

And then I'd probably have two games of like 100. So yeah, I mean, my average would be probably about 120 then. So I think give me a few nights, I'd be 150, I think again. You'd be back, yeah, right, right. But the average age in this bowling league was like probably 65. I was in with my father-in-law and there was a couple of us young bucks in there. But most of the guys in it were-

Big Adam from the gym was in it. Big Adam, Big Chuck. Most of the guys in this bowling league were retired a big Adam, big Chuck, you know, most of the guys in this bowling league were retired and you know, they had different outlooks on things. They have different life experiences, but I'd never heard anyone say this before. And it was like talking about the Thursday night NFL games or something. And several of the guys made a comment. They're like, God, I got to get a bet on this game to even care about it. Like, I'm not, I can't even, I was like, oh, I didn't get a bet in. I can't even watch this game and I got no skin in the game.

And I'm just like, I've actually never thought of it that way. That like, you have to have money invested in this game to have it. I'm like watching it because I want to see what athletic achievements these guys are going to do. Like what crazy stuff's going to happen. But I guess at a certain age, maybe you lose that wonder and you just care about it from a monetary standpoint right right yeah i've thought i've had like fleeting thoughts sometimes before about downloading one of those apps and trying it and i just never like jack wanted me to try it one when because he sees the ads all the time too too. He's like, oh, you should try it.

Like, he just wanted to get in on it. And I'm like, well, what's the minimum? Can I bet, like, $5 just for him and I to have something to, like, root for? Like, you know, just as, like, a complete amount of money that I literally don't care if we win or lose other than, you know, just give us something to have a goofy little cheering bit on. And I don't think there's anything wrong with it. Actually, I don't think there's anything wrong with sports betting. I don't think there's anything wrong with most vices in life. Well, we made the comparison before, too.

It's not completely unlike the stock market for the average person, too. Yeah, I mean, kind of. I mean, depending on what you're doing yeah i mean there actually there is a big difference there because there is way you you can invest in that long term yeah way that adds a long-term best where i actually right yeah so i don't mean that i mean like some like i would say maybe more like if you or i is think we're going to do some we just want to dabble in a little day trading. If we're going to make an aggressive run at day trading

or crypto meme coins that we think are going to pop off. I could make a case that we have just as much... It's just as intelligent for us to do that sports betting as it is day trading on the stock market because our likelihood of losing our money is probably very similar either way. Yes. Yes. Yeah. But yeah, not to compare it in the market, you know, like there is intelligent things you do with your money there, obviously. And that's not, that's not what I had in mind when comparing the two. That does, that is amazing that you said that though, because this, uh, because this reminds me of something market-related

that I do want to bring up, Tanner. Are you familiar with NVIDIA? No. Oh, like do you know this company's name at all? Is it like Activia? Okay, so think of that and think of like the exact opposite and you're getting closer. Okay.

So NVIDIA is actually the most valuable company in the world right now. It's not like satellites or something like that? No, they do. Really where they're making all their money is they make a lot of the chips behind the AI stuff. That's where all their valuation is coming from. So a lot of people, NVIDIA, they think of like graphics cards for their computer. That's where most people would know the term NVIDIA or the company name NVIDIA. But what is absolutely insane, so they are, they are now the officially the most, actually, let me back that up. I should double check this. I believe they are the most valuable

company. I think they've passed Apple. I think they're actually just behind Microsoft. Yeah. Second most valuable company as of like yesterday. They have passed Apple. They're just behind Microsoft. Their market cap has passed $3 trillion. Okay. And if you want to see something really crazy, um, we type in Nvidia stock price and look at the five-year on that thing. Um, yeah, actually not even, well, yeah. Five-year look at, uh, in 2020, 2019, a share was worth $36 36 now a share is worth 1200 so they are the moon they're up 3200 in the last five years now that that is some money you'd be making there and take that game stop oh i mean bitcoin everything like does bitcoin even compare to that

i'm just uh looking at the chart here. Five years, Bitcoin is up 700%. And people like to say Bitcoin's had a crazy run. This is like significantly higher than that even. But what's really crazy about NVIDIA, this number that I saw that just like my mind can't even hit wrap around this, is that if you were to divide NVIDIA's market valuation, what'd we say? About 300 million divided across their employees. You said trail. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. 3 trillion. Yeah. They have 29,000 employees. Yeah. If you divided that across them, that means each employee would be worth $102 million. Is that just crazy or what? That is crazy. The next closest on this chart that I'm looking at are if you did that same thing, take your valuation divided across all employees.

Not that that actually has how anything works or anything, but Apple and Meta are both tied at 19 million. Microsoft's at 14 million. Alphabet, Google, they're at 12 million. Tesla's at 4 million. But NVIDIA, about 30,000 employees, a 3 trillion market cap, 100 million tesla's at 4 million but nvidia about 30 000 employees a 3 trillion market cap 100 million that's that's pretty wild yeah that is if i was working there i'd be like let's do that give me yeah i want that sounds great let's do it yeah that's wild so yes we'll uh keep our we'll keep our tickers on this nvidia stock see what happens yeah so it's but you'd say it's related to ai in a way that's what it's all speculation based off of because they are the ones that supply the majority of the chips that can do all this ai stuff you know it's so computational heavy and i don't know i don't think they actually manufacture the chips i think they

just make like the plans like basically design the chips and then someone else you know like qualcomm or something makes them yeah okay this ai thing isn't going away is it it's not and i'll say this as a guy that actually uses it in my job quite a bit yeah i do think a lot of times uh it is overrated i do think a lot of times it is like yeah there's so many things where it's just like yeah i mean it's just kind of a glorified google search where it's just spitting out answers to you that are written in nice casual english and it's like easy to read. And it's like, yeah, you're kind of, I think people get caught up in that illusion of like, it feels like the computer's talking to me. It's like, well, no, it just found four sentences in an article somewhere. And then just put a little nice context around them as to how a person would say it. And it feels like, whoa,

this is magical. It's like, yeah, I kind of just did a Google search. It's kind of like when AOL, it was like when AOL told you, you've got mail. And when that probably first came out in 1998, you were like, oh my God, what is going on here? Yes, yes, totally. Someone just sent me an electronic letter and my computer just spoke to me that it's here. And there's a lot of things. I mean, we were just, I was showing you this last week. There's a lot of novelty things of image generation and song generation, all types of things that are novel that don't have a lot of real word applications for a lot of people.

It's just for a lot of people, you're working your office job, doing whatever you do at your office job, Word documents and Excel. It's just like, yeah, I don't know. A lot of this dumb stuff probably has no bearing on it. But I will say, though, there are definitely uses to it, but a lot of the uses that I use aren't the things that like are big and flashy and cool and getting people's attention. It's just, um, for now, at least for now, and this is all cheap. Yeah. This is all cheap. That's not to say yes, that it's never going to get there. I think it will get to more places,

but, um, yeah, I think a lot of it right now, and you're going to see this is that it's never going to get there i think it will get to more places but um yeah i think a lot of it right now and you're going to see this is that it's just it's a buzzword that investors like and if you're a company and you can sprinkle that well at this point if you're a company you just have to be able to say ai about you do and the more you can say it like the more ah yes ai i agree ai ah excellent point yes AI that's what it is I think what's gonna be very interesting though is over the next like five years because it's safe to say the last year has been

like crazy as like the unveiling party of like really seeing this stuff come out but now in theory can grow exponentially if it truly it can but what they also say though is that the problem is is for it to go exponentially is the actual compute power behind this also has to grow exponentially and

that is one intensive from a computing standpoint and also extremely expensive like someone has to be paying for all this and like right now a lot of people aren't paying for any of it you know they're just like getting what they can free and it's just investors shoveling money into it. So what'll be very interesting to me is what actually happens in the next five years for useful real world applications with this stuff. Yeah. AI eventually should just be able to figure it out for itself. I would think that's, that is the theory. If it's going to take over within the next 10 years, like they're going to have to just start figuring these hurdles out for itself. Yep. They are going to have to just start figuring these hurdles out for itself. Yep, they are.

You're going to have to grow up sometime. Do you think in our lifetimes that there's any chance that AI takes over the world? That's a really interesting question because a lot of people, well, also you have to define take over the world. Right, and that is a really broad, I mean. Because it's take over the world. Did the internet take over the world? I was going to yeah you kind of did the internet has already taken over the

world right no i mean more i don't necessarily mean it holds us all hostage by new like shooting it's our own nuclear bombs at us which that's a thing maybe even too but like like where ai is actually running some of the show but it already is running a lot of the show. I know, that's a loose, yeah. So I guess I just mean something more definitively where you're like, no, AI's kind of in charge now. In our lifetime, I mean, we could, you know, we're in our 30s.

We could both live 70 more years. I mean, 70 years, a lot can happen. You look at 1930 to 2000. Well, some people, and some people, I mean, I'm not saying all the most reputable people, but they'll say it'll happen in five to 10 years from now. Yeah. I don't believe that one as much.

I think there's actually physical limitations to things. Right. I don't think in five years, I don't know, maybe 10, but start looking at like decades out a lot happens in decades so yeah that's it'd be funny to think in 70 years if all ai is it's like oh yeah it's like a google search for me you know it's like a kind of a handy google search for me i'm like ah this did not pan out like everyone was talking about if that's all it's doing i know and that's i think that does have some of that has the potential to be really lame because

people talk about, you know, one of the big things will be app next week is Apple's developer conference. Like, you know, they're one of the biggest tech companies in the world. What they're doing a lot of times sets the course for what either they're late to the party and they're playing catch up and it's like, yep, this was the right idea. Or they do have some new idea and everyone else is gonna be playing catch up to them. So like it is a big show. And one of the things they talk about is, and Google has this too, I think with their

Gemini or whatever their assistant is, is like, all right, so you get a long email from someone. What AI can do is they can give you a summary of that email and then they can offer you a suggested message to write back to that person. And it's like, okay, so just think about the, just let's think about the concept of that. Tanner, someone writes you some big, long business email with a lot of stuff. You're like, oh, yeah, there's, okay. There's no way I'm just going on. If it's important, I can't just read a summary of it. That's already, yeah, that right there. But let's just assume like that's the role you're going to take here.

Like, all right, this is an AI's hand. So someone writes you this big, complicated business email. You get it. You go, ah, there's a lot there. Give me the summary, AI. AI gives you the summary. You're like, okay, just craft a message back saying, yeah, sounds good. So then the AI does a message back.

Then that next person does the same thing. And they send an A message back to you. You're like, what is anyone actually doing in this equation it's just computers kind of like yeah we're good we're good we're good here right right and i do wonder it almost is like a i do wonder at a certain point do we get do we just lose critical thinking skills because we're just like uh yeah we all work in a big office we all work in a big company no one wants to shake the boat here because that's not how big companies work and we just got to keep the status quo going uh yeah that's that's where we're just stuck in now i i do wonder at some point in time uh the big companies say like google apple microsoft

uh i don't know what the other ones are i guess facebook meta yeah facebook meta whatever you know if this is going to be that transformative of a thing not all of them are going to be leading the way on it i assume like if it is going to be that big of a deal there'll probably be winners and losers and i also always just think not all of these companies are going like in 40 years i'm guessing those say four companies won't all be still the leaders in like it does change sometimes it's so i'm wondering who like that's what's so weird though is when you think about because i think about this sometimes too but what i do wonder is the money and the scale that these companies are now compared to

before i mean what was a huge it was ge like huge forever in the 1900s? Well, probably like 100 years. How many employees did GE have though? Like were they, I just don't get their market scale in like comparison to today's. And like people talk about it, they call them like the magnificent seven. You know, what's it? Facebook, Google, you know,

what we're just saying is tech companies. And isn't it of like the S&P 500? Like their market cap, those seven make up like 40% of the market cap of the S&P 500. It's like, does that seem I mean, they have a disproportionate amount of weight, you know, with those seven companies there. I'm just throwing numbers out there. I could be wrong. It might not be 40 percent. I think it's more than 20, though. Looks like GE, the most amount of employees they have ever had. You know, it's kind of hovered

around here but at one point 340 000 i mean that's a lot yeah but i don't know i don't know like times are just so different now i yeah i don't know like are these companies too big to fail that's what it brings up the question that is the question it brings up i can microsoft or apple fail they're the only two computer software companies are they they're the only two companies that make like operating systems at a scale for computers. Right. I mean, if one of those goes down,

we have one operating system now. It's like, it's just crazy to think that one of those could disappear. Right. And then phones, it's the same thing. We have two operating systems.

We have Apple and Google. Like, can one of them disappear? Then we lose an operating system. I mean, I don't think the government would let them happen because I think they would prop them up because then they're like, well, there's only one operating system

and we can't have a monopoly here so we have to at least have two companies battling it out we have to have a duopoly in place to keep and it's probably almost impossible for someone to break in on you oh yeah oh yeah you want to be get into the phone operating system okay yeah you have to convince uh people to make phones that uh have your operating system loaded on it and then you have to develop you only need probably a few billion dollars to get going like at the very least right yeah uh how about a little uh lift hardly vc classic oh let's do it part two update let's do it okay oh what about a can actually first i see you're drinking water maybe that's your no it's not my can i was saving my can for the can segment okay ah let me orange vanilla here horn that's

that's really nice can you got there yeah uh orange vanilla waterloo i bet that's good i bet it's delicious actually so good so good that that feels like a four from here if uh it is your it is a four all day i didn't enjoy this even more if i didn't have kind of a sinus thing going on at the moment it'd be even more enjoyable but still quite good i've got a lime la croix right here and that's good i was thirsty you just can't beat the classics can you i just needed a big old swig of that to i was getting extra parched um a little burp there uh we do have the lift hard live easy classic officially labeled as part two now you know there's been some talk is it uh 2024 you know you could call it any of that stuff but

officially it is lift hard live easy classic part two it's going on july 20th 2024 it's been falling along you know that already it's in aberdeen south dakota western northeast south dakota again we're holding it at the od ice arena same location as last year and then this is a three or four day long event this year. It's like the craziest music festival you've ever been to, basically. Yes, only it's powerlifting. And Strongman this year. So last year we had 60 powerlifters.

This year there's 90 powerlifters and 20 Strongmen. So it'll all go on, the competing will go on on one day. The Strongman will follow up. The powerlifting, that night after there's an after party at the Zoo Bar. The night prior, there's a pre-party at my house after weigh-ins and such.

The night before that, there's a get-together. There's still another night prior here. The day after the meet, there's a get-together. All kinds of stuff going on. But just to give a little update it is part two we decided on that and that came about because uh the final design is like basically done now here we kind of got a wrap on that right yeah the design is about 99 done we're so by the time this comes out it is design probably will be out be you will have seen it by now probably actually, right?

Yes. It's just, you know, I got to look at it and decide if we need any more shadow lines or anything added. But otherwise, it's basically done. We just haven't sent the files to the printer yet. I'm pretty excited for it. Tanner, you seem to like it a lot too. I like it a lot. I thought last year's was awesome, and I like this year's.

Maybe it's just because it's newer. Sometimes that happens. I think that way all the time, if I'm being honest. But I like it. I like it better than last year's. I think it's awesome. I think it's got our nice little Masonomics twist on it. It does a good job of making it unique to what the event is,

honoring the event in a very unusual way, perhaps. Yes. So that's kind of the update on the design, the logo. That'll be out. And behind the scenes stuff, Tommy and I have been working our balls off this week, getting stuff ready, finalizing a bunch of the sponsors uh ordering a bunch of merchandise a bunch of everything that's going to go along with it um just a bunch of stuff getting tables and chairs ready you know all the boring stuff and we're getting all the exciting stuff and all the boring stuff done it is a little easier on year two because there is just lists

we can go back to last year like right stuff i need to make it's just rinse and repeat look at all got over my lift hard live easy classic folder it's all there the to-do list just exists and i don't have to we don't have to do the thing of like ah boy did did we actually remember to do everything this year it's like no it's all right there so that has made it a little easier but there's still you can't downplay the amount of work that goes into this thing nope there is a lot of work that goes into this uh there the the way that this goes for me is all uh we'll be good for a while and then i'll feel like i'll get anxious about it all the sudden like i'll be in bed at one night and i'll be like oh man seems like seems like the time's really

ticking we gotta get stuff done and then we'll like get a bunch of stuff done or get some stuff done and then i'm like okay yeah we're good again and then like a week later i'll be like or a month later whatever it is i'll be like oh seems like a that is really close now again you know it goes in waves because that's right like it is far enough out that especially with the artwork you know you basically know everything artwork wise to be safe you need to allow four to five weeks to get everything done and so to get that we have to get the artwork done and it took us a long time to arrive at a concept this year we just kept kind of bouncing ideas and at the surface level all of them were like yeah that seems cool that seems cool and we just kept playing with this idea and just couldn't get there and then I had

kind of the spark and I said one thing and then you added one more word to it. And that totally changed the perspective. And it was instantly like, yes, that is the concept right there. Right. And like getting the concept is such a hard idea. But once you have the concept, you know, like, boom, OK, like everything just starts to fall into place. And then I can go do the artwork. And then once the artwork's done, it's like, you know it's thursday at night as we're recording

this tomorrow i'm gonna send off a bunch of stuff monday hopefully send off just about the rest of it and then we're sort of in another holding pattern for about three to four weeks where we're just playing the waiting game on a lot of things you know there's a lot of phone calls and emails that still need to happen but right for a big chunk of the work it's just it's just going to be the waiting game until it starts showing up and then we have the items i would say too i mean you'll you know all about this because it's like part of your job but i made the comment even on um like particularly particular to the design concept you know i in my mind it's really easy to come up with like good ideas i would even like that are just just like straight up ideas yes i would say this it's easy to throw

concepts out there that's right yes it's easy to throw concepts i got to be careful of the terms to make this make sense but it's easy for us you and i can sit come back and forth and just get a whole bunch of like high level 10 000 foot view concepts and you're like it's easy for us. You and I can sit, come back and forth and just get a whole bunch of like high level, 10,000 foot view concepts. And you're like, and it's like, yeah, that could be good.

Yeah. But what about, but it's like, but then you'd like the next question is, but how would we do this? And so this is like, I'm not quite sure. And that's like,

what the actual hard part is, is like really connecting the dots. That's where it's hard is where it's like actually the application, like taking an idea and being like, okay, can we, does this actually work? Like, I know that that seemed funny and fun when we just said it. Yeah. But if we actually think about doing it, how do we do that? Yes. Like, and then it's like, ah, yeah, that idea is actually not good.

I mean, it's, it's great to have a list. Like that's, I mean, that's the process. Yeah that idea is actually not good. I mean, it's great to have a list. I mean, that's the process. Yeah, that is the creative process. You've got to throw in a ton of bad ideas to have good ideas. That's how it goes. Sometimes you get lucky. You do just throw in a good idea right away, but that's not the norm. And also, it's not linear.

It's not like, okay, I'll just spend three hours on this, and the idea is done, or we just block out three hours here and that three hours will take care of it it's like no sometimes you do just spend hours and hours thinking about it and looking at stuff and writing things down and you get done and you might have even backtracked from where you were before because then you realize the ideas that i thought were good all those were bad and we're right back to square one again right and then all of a sudden like one one word pops in and that's what it was like one word popped into my brain like yeah i think this will work and the one idea i said to you you're like oh but we could do this version of it and then it's just like boom like that right there basically i would say a total of

30 seconds of conversation the entire idea happened more than it did in like four hours of brainstorming and researching and stuff and that's uh after we because we sort of had this prior to that we kind of had this one overall concept that we wanted to go with and we talked about it on our way to the Arnold for probably a half hour or more oh we talked and you know we in the beginning of the process here within the last month we were kind of going that way and talking about it more and stuff like that and it was never you know, we, in the beginning of the process here within the last month, we were kind of going that way and talking about it more and stuff like that. And it was never, you know, it always, it seemed like a good idea, but just what I was saying, like, it just kept being like,

we couldn't really figure out how to take it to the plate. Yeah, the whole thing just, it wasn't cohesive. It was just like a forward tagline. It's like, actually, it's a funny tagline, but outside of that, it doesn't really have any legs. Right, right. And I just do think, I guess my commentary, it's like actually it's a funny tagline but outside of that it doesn't really have any legs right right and i just do think i guess my commentary it's interesting the way that that process works you know because it is so that's a good way of describing it it's so non-linear compared to other things you work on that like it is i mean actually and then once we did that straight line once we did that from the concept it was like pretty quickly into the research stage.

I figured out exactly. Yep. It's going to look like this and this. And you had a little feedback, too, of, yeah, we could incorporate this in. And then once I got to the drawing part, I mean, I'm not like a world record setting speed drawer or illustrator or anything like that. But it kind of came together in an afternoon. And then the next day, just kind of came together in an afternoon and then the next day just kind of finalize some things tweak some things and i sent you a couple things

along in the process and then and then yeah you had some commentary like yeah yeah it looks good and then like at the end i added one more thing in you're like ah that that that really brought it all together yes uh it is fun uh scans also asked has aberdeen magazine locked down the date for their sponsorship yet uh so we do have all the sponsors locked in now aberdeen magazine is not a sponsor but we one of the things on our list to do here now coming up is to go on our pr run so we will be reaching out to the folks at aberdeen magazine. Maybe they want, they do or don't do looking for fresh blood. It's hard to say.

We'll see if we can get some radio shows, some local newspaper coverage, you know, that sort of thing. Big Bryce five X model reached out to public broadcasting. He had a connection there. Very nice. He said, hey, here's this event. Is that something you could ever be interested in covering in some way?

So who knows? Maybe we'll get some PBS action in on it. Some SD PV. Yeah. The other notes on the meat I had here is that for the Strongman competitors, you've probably heard already, but Big Jake, the Strongman director, changed. It is no longer the Stone of Steel for the Stone event. It is now Atlas Stones, you know, stone, concrete Atlas Stones

that will be used for that event. So there was a change there. Was there a specific reason for the change? Well, it's kind of one of those, you could compare it to the design thing where it's like talking about the actual, how that event actually looks. And the problem with the stone of steel is you are not supposed to drop it. You're supposed to drop it onto a crash pad. Ah, okay. Like just a stall mat on concrete is not good enough.

Yeah, yeah. Like just a stall mat on concrete is not good enough. Yeah, yeah. And this event is going to be over bar back and forth with competitors like in theory on each side of the bar. And if you were going to do that with the stone of steel and actually have them on each side of the bar, someone would have to be, the spotters would have to be setting a crash pad down on that side.

Well, also then once it gets down on your side, in case you don't make it right. Yeah, kind of. Yes. And then, but then once,

once it lands on that side, then they need to roll the stone off of the crash pad, get the pad out of there, roll the stone back to that spot where it was on the crash pad, but now just on the floor. Cause you can't do the pick off of the crash pad, and then get ready to do the same thing on the other side. And they could have to do it like 100 times. And they're going to be wrecked.

Okay, so when you do that with an actual stone, then what does it land on to, though? A couple layers of stalemats. And that's sufficient? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that'll be fine. Yeah, that'll be fine. Yeah, that will be fine.

But on the stone of steel, it's really not. Yeah. So the alternative to what is stone of steel would be you're always just loading one direction, and the competitors just bump in and out. Yeah. But visually, that doesn't really look the same as two guys standing face to face so is that how they do it i can't just can't picture my brain how would they do it at world strongest man yeah in the end of the heats they do it over the bar back and forth and they're just

like a couple stall mats they're outside and i can't remember what it is but yeah they're not yeah it's like onto that, right? Yes. I'm just looking for like images here of. Yeah. It's only in the heats would it be like that. Yeah, I just typed in like stone off and there's. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm curious too what their actual picture looks like there. Yeah, that's kind of what it looks like to me. I see... Yeah, yeah. They just have a couple stall mats is all. Yep. Like the stall mats are built up enough that the competitors are on them already. Right, right.

So that's, you know, it might take four to six stall mats. You know, maybe it takes six of them even, you know. So it's like to build an eight by 12 and build it like two or three high. But still, it's just like six stall mats. And what do we got volunteers around for if not to move stall mats all over all day long? That's right. That's what they're for. Have you said what the implement is that they're going to be lifting them over?

That's up to Jake, but I assume we're going to use one of the yokes. Okay. I didn't know if that was that. We could bust out the old from the 2026. 2026. Strongman Showdown. Or 2016. 2016. It's so long ago. I'm. Strongman Showdown. Or 2016.

2016. It's so long ago, I'm getting confused on the dates. 2016, Masonomic Strongman Showdown. We had an Atlas Stone series event, and we loaded them all over a wooden apparatus that I made. It looks kind of cool. I'd have to remeasure the height of that and see if that's a height jake wants if it's a height he wants that thing is cool it looks cooler than an actual like one

of the metal yokes we have yep um so that could be an option or we could probably that one probably could be adjusted to be higher or lower too like i have to actually i mean i haven't looked at it in nothing nothing like seven or eight years. Nothing some more stall mats can't solve, right? That's true, too, yes. We've always got enough stall mats around. So we're only like six or seven weeks out from that now. Before I get into that, I want to tell everyone about the Strength Co.

Check them out at thestrength.co. Actually, I just saw the Strength Co. made it in an article. This was a GQ article, and it was on GQ.com, and it was the best home gym equipment of 2024 according to experts. And at the bottom of the list, not because it's at the bottom, just because I think it's in a random order list, and they said what is the title of the category that they gave to the Strength Co.? Let's see here. It is Best Weight Plates.

Strength Co. Olympic Iron Plates. Made it on GQ's list of Best 15 Home Gym Equipment. The Strength Co. Pl plates made it on there. So if it's good enough for GQ, pretty sure they're good enough for you. Check them out at thestrength.co. You can also call them at 949-326-765. Oh, it's kind of not. Can't quite see the rest of the number on my website right now.

Let me check that again. I think Grant hit it from me, so I couldn't advertise the number to everyone. But, you know, listen to last week's episode if you need their phone number. I mentioned it a couple of times. You can check their phone number from last week. And also give the OK Podcast a listen. That's their podcast. It's OK.

OK. Did I miss anything tanner uh the strength co made gq the website gq.com made their list of the best home gym equipment of 2024 wow the category of best weight plate went to Strength Co. Olympic Iron Plates. Wow. That's pretty impressive. That's some crossover appeal there. Yeah. If it's good enough for the AI writers at GQ, it's good enough for all of you. I'm just looking at the list.

You know, it kind of did the whole thing of just kind of picking a little bit from all the brands uh i mean i'm looking at it here there's a lot of the things on this list are pretty good you know the yeah a rep pr 4000 for the best rack sure okay concept two what do they call it the erg rower what do they call those things i guess yeah yeah that on the best rower, okay. A Peloton bike, sure. Best dumbbells, Rep Fitness rubber hex dumbbells, okay. I mean, all those hex dumbbells are the same, aren't they? I think so. They're all the same to me. Best smart gym, the Power Voltro.

That's pretty cool. I mean, very, very expensive, but cool. Yeah, best barbell, Rogo Fitness Ohio bar. Sure, okay. Best weight plates strength co-iron plates good good work guys very cool did grant give you the heads up on that yes yes didn't tell me real cool he must have not thought you knew about websites and stuff like that he probably thinks just you that wouldn't surprise me okay uh my turn yep all right this episode is also brought to you by texas power bars and tanner this time i am sad to report that all sales and promotions are finally done. The flash sale. The three-month flash sale has ended. You're back to paying full price.

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You did send me a picture of, like, it was four of them on the floor and i know how many have been added to that gym in the last year yeah and then four more of those laid on the floor and it's just there's a lot of texas bar bars around right now do you think with the texas end cap is there is there 20 bars down there with the texas probably 20 yeah there's probably 20 yeah that's probably fair you know when you think about it though it actually is a smart now I don't think we need any more bars

but what it does is it makes them all get distributed evenly so it extends all of their lifetimes you know like it stops one from getting used to hard that's true it's probably the smart way to do it is if you buy one you should buy 20 there used to be you know there used to be the also this thing like people have their certain bar that they always have want to try and go to I'm like I think we have so many now that good

luck finding your bar. I like I think like almost everyone's given up on like there's so many good bars that I think you