Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 53: State USAPL Meet

Episode Date: April 10, 2017

We had a whole pile of dudes head to Sioux Falls, SD for the USAPL State Powerlifting Meet... So we all put on our favorite Massenomics T-shirts and showed up to support the team... We were thrilled ...to see  an exceptionally well-run, top-notch powerlifting meet. Check out this weeks episode to hear all about it! As always, you can watch this episode in full color video... Or check out the super-high quality audio version below.. If you don't already have a closet full of Massenomics gear, go to the MASSENOMICS STORE and load up on swag... Also, please CLICK THIS LINK TO GIVE US A 5 STAR RATING ON ITUNES... Click this text to follow Massenomics on Instagram... Vote Massenomics for President in 2020.. Have your barber shave our logo into the side of your head.. Maybe get a Massenomics tattoo while you're at it.    Or you could sign up for our email newsletter at the bottom of this page. Stay Strong, M

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Massanomics, the world's strongest podcast. Find us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at Massanomics. Make sure you go visit massanomics.com. There you'll find the rest of our powerful content. While you're there, check out our store and buy yourself some of that sweet Massanomics gear. All right, guys, we're back in the studio again here. You heard from us last week, but we actually haven't podcasted in almost a month.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Six months? I can't even remember. It was 2015. It's been a few. I'm trying to think of what. So the last episode would have been the Sean's keto diet. That was without Tanner. That was episode 52.
Starting point is 00:00:48 This is 53. But since we technically, I think, dumped two episodes on launch day, this is our one-year anniversary episode. Oh, yeah. Sean's the celebratory beers. Yeah. That's right. That's what's up. In my very dirty glass, by the way.
Starting point is 00:01:05 I have to take that one up with the wife. Anyway, so we just got back from the, what's the title of this meet? USAPL, South Dakota State Championship Powerlifting Meet. Yep, there we go. So we just got back. That meet was yesterday. Tommy competed. Sure did.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Tanner and I did not. Sure meet was yesterday. Tommy competed. Sure did. Tanner and I did not. Sure didn't. Sure didn't. Tanner was busy slanging nose torque and slapping backs. I was the nose torque man. Nobody slanged more nose torque than I did. No one. I also, were you giving out nose torque to people that weren't Masonomics people also?
Starting point is 00:01:39 Yeah. You were that guy. You were just like, anyone want to hit? Yeah, yeah. Anyone want to hit? I'll be your huckleberry. It's a fun job. Yeah, Tanner actually was, short of being a judge,
Starting point is 00:01:52 Tanner had pretty much posted up. It was the closest person to the stage. He was just leaning there, handing out nose torque. I was like, oh, we kind of know Jonah. We know Jonah. We kind of know Gino. I guess if anyone is going to tell me to move, they're probably going to be nice about it and just be like,
Starting point is 00:02:08 don't be right there. We're kind of messing up the view. But we had a wildly successful meet. By we, I mean Team Masonomics. Team Masonomics. I'd say we can really use that term. I think so. We had more of a team there than anyone else.
Starting point is 00:02:31 We took a picture at the end, and it was a good group of people. That was missing some. We went to eat at lunch, and there was over 10 people there that weren't competing and weren't even a significant other of someone that was competing you know that's kind of rare at a you know like you don't have a lot of team support usually no yeah like that um before we go much further with it we want to make sure we thank jonah leo friend of the podcast for putting on what has to be as good of a power lifting meet as can be i can't imagine anything being better than that. The only way it could be better is if there's less people so it would go faster,
Starting point is 00:03:09 but you can't ask for anything more than that. The bar was set really high with that one. Yeah, it was. And no offense to any other powerlifting meets or anything like that in the state, but there's a lot of meets going on that are held in maybe a YMCA gymnasium. And it's just a totally different feel than in this space here, where it was legit. Jonah had every base covered.
Starting point is 00:03:36 They sold beer, which fortunately for everybody in the arena, we didn't find that out until about 2 p.m. Otherwise, it would have been a totally different situation. But, I mean, they had just everything. Really nice seating. They had a great platform. They had the great Gino announcing everything. That really makes a difference, too.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Oh, absolutely. Between that and the music, it was like an entertaining... Even if it's not something you're into, there was at least an entertainment value to it, whereas your traditional powerlifting meet, if you don't know anybody and you don't know what's going on, I could see how people get zoned out in a hurry.
Starting point is 00:04:20 And it was... I mean, he even had back in the corner... Did you guys notice that there was like a kid's area? Did you, you probably didn't even notice. No. In the back corner, my kid was there and they had like a, they had like a toy box and a whole bunch of shit strewn all over there. And it was just kind of an empty space that were like, all of the kids could just run amok and play with the shit and string it out all over which is good because in a situation like that there's bound to be people to bring kids and there's no way the kids aren't going to hate it like you can't expect i mean jack did really well actually sitting in the chairs and watching insanely and just hanging out i think it's just he's been at this point he's been to so many of those it's just like he knows what he's like not going to complain about he knows he's literally going to be there the entire day he's like yeah i'm just going to be here fucking forever and he kind and he knows all of the massonomics guys lifting you know so any action he's pretty he knows the lifts you know he knows it's like squat bench and deadlift even and he and he knows all the guys so he kind of cheers
Starting point is 00:05:19 for them sometimes too and come on larry and he cheers against the not masonomics guys he'll ask like is that are they from masonomics i'll say no and he's like i don't want them to do good yeah me either but uh but yeah they did uh they did a bang-up job put on a really really great meet um as a spectator only it was i would say as good as can be even like the arnold i mean they did have the usapl on the on the rogue strength stage there which was a nice stage but they for real we had more seating here than they had even at that spot definitely and we definitely had more seating there than they do normally at the usapl stuff at the arnold and way more space and a way
Starting point is 00:06:06 nicer setup and i mean i mean it was as as good as it possibly could be very nice venue to you know like like you said it not being in like an old not being in like a or like a motel six yeah or even just an old convention center so you know it could be any place like that and yeah it was you know because even the you know the eight we're kind of spoiled in south dakota at this point like It could be any place like that. We're kind of spoiled in South Dakota at this point. You would expect that in South Dakota that's all we would have is hanging out in the ratty old Motel 6. But between the APF meet that they have annually and this one, you're not going to go to a lot of ones that run that much better than that. No, we got two really, really well run. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:50 The other fortunate thing with this one is that we do happen to have, I would say Jonah is a bit of the USAPL's golden boy a little bit with being the, was it twice? World. World bench press champion. Yeah. He just happens to live in south dakota which gives us you know because if he doesn't live in south dakota this doesn't happen you know that no without that
Starting point is 00:07:10 event isn't like yeah not to that level there's no way gino's there no i'm sure not and the difference between having gino at a meet and having somebody who who just goes like, uh, Larry shook bars loaded. And that's it. Or instead you've got Gino going, Larry, the legend shook. He's not shucking around, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:34 like, uh, about we, he, he had to kind of hammed up Larry's name a little bit anyways, and done some really fun shuck puns throughout the course of the, on top of just repeating his name over and over and over just because it's so great shook shook shook is it shook is it shook
Starting point is 00:07:50 and the other thing we liked was it wasn't just larry it was larry larry larry so over and over again so about about larry's second bench attempt i i went over there and i jumped in gino's ear and i said i said gino uh larry shook last name is pronounced legend and gino looks at me and he goes are you fucking serious i could read your lips i saw you do it and i could read and i could read his like he thought like it is seriously like oh i'm getting it wrong he's like how could i miss by that much yeah and i go and he's like he goes are you serious I was like of course I'm not serious and he goes but can I say it I was like absolutely and so then from then on like even when he came out was announcing Larry at the you know giving
Starting point is 00:08:35 out the awards and shit he was like Larry which was which was awesome we have a we did have a bit at the down at the gym here where somebody had posted. We started writing on the board just senseless nicknames for Larry. I just think it started someone wrote, like, Larry the Legend on the thing, and then someone just had to let everything snowball out of control. So it kept going on. So we have Larry Legend Shook shook which is obviously we've called him larry legend as he's he's a masters he's been around a while now is this is his first foray into
Starting point is 00:09:11 the masters division yeah is that correct first year so then it evolved so people just started writing and if you can see this on my phone at least this is on the whiteboard down at the gym and just every day or two someone would add like a Larry nickname. And so I'm going to go through with them, go through all these for you. We have Larry, the Frisco kid, Chuck, Larry, the San Francisco treat, Chuck. One of my personal favorites, Larry, layer bud, Chuck, that, that, that one goes for Ryan, uh larry duane the rock johnson shuck larry the ice man shuck larry the midnight special shuck larry the cuddle monster shuck larry that's the way i roll shuck larry the heartbreak kid shuck. Larry shook me all night long. Larry Dirty Sanchez shook.
Starting point is 00:10:07 And my personal favorite, Larry the Snake Roberts shook. And my favorite thing about this, and I don't know if this is going to show up on video if you can see it, but I don't know who wrote all of these. I know I wrote The Snake Roberts. But they're all handwriting that looks like a three-year-old. But The Snake Roberts is the only one that I wrote, and I am looking at all of these, and I could be convinced that I wrote every one of them.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Everyone's handwriting is equally shit. The handwriting is so bad on all of these. I think it's like once you're writing on a whiteboard, everyone defaults to the same handwriting, which is just not good. Once you're writing on a whiteboard, everyone defaults to the same handwriting, which is just not good. For real, if you just sampled one of them and you were like, Tyler, did you write Larry Dwayne the Rock Johnson?
Starting point is 00:10:55 I'd be like, it sure looks like him. So Gino got in on the Larry jokes, which I loved. The fun part with that being Larry is just his reaction to all that stuff. He's just kind of like, huh. It's like, that's pretty awesome. If it was anyone else, it wouldn't be as cool. It's also funny how people can just automatically pick up on that with him. Gino has never seen him before.
Starting point is 00:11:29 He just knows, oh, I should probably kind of're gonna we're gonna jazz up this guy's day yeah no one's ever like oh i hope that larry doesn't do very well then by the end of it everybody was like fucking larry yeah and then it's like oh larry gets another fist bump like larry's getting another high five everybody's high-fiving larry all. Yeah, and then it's like, oh, yeah, you probably got to pull over, like, 530 to get a fist bump, which everyone was, and then, like, someone else does it, and then, oh, no, no fist bump for them. So it's just the Larry rules. But I would say Gino is as much of a legend as there probably is in powerlifting, as much as there is lifters. probably is in powerlifting as much as there is lifters that are,
Starting point is 00:12:04 I mean, yeah. You know, watching it yesterday, seeing someone basically have to MC an event for like close to 12 hours. You realize like how hard that is to do. And, you know, I suppose once you do a few,
Starting point is 00:12:16 you get used to the pacing and the routine, but I mean, he does a great job of keeping it moving. Was he around there during like a rules meeting and stuff? Had you seen him? I saw him kind of in the background, but he didn't make his presence really known until the thing started. Just to start it off, with squats, he was getting people fired up right off the bat. That's what was crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:38 It's what, 8 in the morning? I think generally that bench is maybe a little bit less interesting to watch anyways. There's a bit of a low mid-afternoon where maybe, I'm not going to call Gino out on it, but maybe Gino is like, yeah, lift is good on the bench. You know, I turn it down. But for real, like I phone in 80% of my work day. So like, but, but, but, so that's totally acceptable as far as I'm concerned. But when we got there, we had missed just the very first flight of squats, I think.
Starting point is 00:13:07 And we got there, and immediately I was like, Jesus Christ, Gino's bringing the fucking heat. It's like 9 o'clock in the morning, and he's like fucking flipping microphones and fucking strutting around up there. He's got the flip down good, too. Just running shit. It's like axle rolls on the mic. I also saw a picture. Jonah had posted a picture on Facebook of Gino and a couple other guys,
Starting point is 00:13:29 and they were out getting dinner. So I saw Gino in regular clothes, and I have no idea. I was like, oh, fuck. It almost ruined it. It's like seeing Santa Claus in a pair of khakis. Yeah, I don't know if I want to see that ever. I was like, never show me that again, G. Like you have to wear your pirate outfit when you get on your airplane and you fly back to wherever it is that you live.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I actually kind of assumed he did do that, though. Like wore that all the time. I don't think that'd be weird if people were like, what's with the outfit? And you're like, I'm an announcer. I think people would be like, okay. And they just give you a free pass. I saw a guy when I was flying one time who wore like a green suit with a hat, but the suit itself was made of like fucking glitter practically.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Like it was super shiny, like fucking shit all over it, just the shiniest, jazziest, bright green suit. And he had like a weird handlebar mustache, and he's just fucking sitting there wait waiting to board a plane and it was the point where i was like i don't even want to ask this guy about it because whatever his answer is i fucking don't care yeah and it's probably he probably has an explanation that's going to justify this suit but i don't want to fucking know it and i'm sure that's what uh poor gino would run into if he had his pirate yeah but uh
Starting point is 00:14:47 yeah it was an awesome event our guys totally crushed it tommy went nine for nine yeah it's uh you know going into it uh the last this this would be my third meet and going into it the last two meets i had done uh i was seven for nine i missed my last squat, missed my last bench in both of those meets. I had two goals. I really wanted a 13.50 total. I also really wanted to go 9 for 9, but 13.50 was the big one I was after. The way it worked out is it kind of all came together. I got 9 for 9 and a 13. or three i can't remember now 1360
Starting point is 00:15:26 something maybe seven seven seven okay 1367 yeah so it it was a good day um and you know just getting there from the start it was it was really well organized you kind of got through everything there was never really a feeling of chaos um that can sometimes go with these things and um once the once the day started it was it was a little different for me being in the fourth flight. The past years I've been a little lighter, so a lot of times I've been in one of the first flights or two where you show up and you basically get to warm up almost straight away. So that kind of helps with the butterflies a little bit.
Starting point is 00:15:59 You don't have that time to sit and think it is like getting up in the morning before you go. Because after that, it's just go, go, go. But here it's kind of you rush to get your equipment checked. You weigh in, and then it's like nothing for an hour and a half, two hours. Do you think it feels a little cooler at all to go like – Well, it is fun to go later than that towards the end because it's like you're with – Well, because people are paying attention. Yeah, you're with the big people, and that's kind of like it feels more special that way with all the people handling heavier weights typically, not always.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Yeah. It just feels. Generally heavier. Yeah, just like it's a little bigger deal. But, you know, right away it was just, it was cool going in, seeing the setup, the lighting. You know, that's something that most people might not even take into account or for a factor. I also think it was on accident. No, no.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Did he have some stuff? Because I was looking at the way the lighting was like, the way the light fixtures were, and I was just like, oh, well, they didn't like move any light fixtures. Yeah, no, I talked to Jonah about it. Because when we got there right away in the morning, all the lights were turned on, and I was just thinking like, man, this would be way cooler if it was a more of a spotlight type thing on the lifters or if the lights were dimmed in some way and then after we weighed in we went back to our hotel and ate real quick came back and it was that setup and i was like oh this is really cool and so i asked i'm like jonah like
Starting point is 00:17:17 the lighting this is sweet how you guys did and he's like yeah you know he's like i figured we just dim the middle row and whatever they did to kind of illuminate just where the lifters were at. Well, no, I think dimming the middle row of like the high white lights was all they did. Yeah, yeah. He said he wanted to leave it on on the sides where people were warming up and then the sides where the concessions were. That was it though. There was no spotlight though. Like the platform was just still kind of in the middle
Starting point is 00:17:39 and they still had these regular softer lights that were out there. But yeah, it ended up turning out to where it was just great. The platform was right. There was really well lit up. Videos were great. The, I mean, it was,
Starting point is 00:17:50 it was pretty legit. Yeah. The lighting looked really professional. Like when you're going out there, but it was more, I would say it's intentional in that the crowd wasn't super lit. Like it would have been if everything else was on, but I think it was kind of accidental that it turned out that awesome.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Yeah. How about the warmup-up equipment so yeah that was the other thing like really obvious right away is when you walk in and there's like five i think it was five er racks available for warm-up um also something i'm not used i've never i don't as far as i know i've never even used an er rack or seen one in person besides at the arnold so the fact that there was five of them there um this is something you know i don't think i would know about an ER rack at all, unless talking to Tanner, you know, kind of through the gym equipment buying process. And we've talked about like the Texas, was it Texas Power Rack? Texas Strength Systems. Yeah, the Texas Strength, their rack, and then the ER
Starting point is 00:18:36 rack, and supposedly the ER rack is so much nicer. And so I was kind of paying attention to that a little bit too. Cost over a thousand dollars more. Yeah. So yeah, there's, there's some money associated with it, but it is a, it is a very nice rack. So it was, it was cool to use those. You know, I think it was all basically Titan bars back there, which I don't know if I'm, I don't know if I'd consider myself a fan of the Titan bar. It's a, we, it wasn't too obvious until we got to deadlifts, like squat, whatever. I mean, as long as the bar is at total garbage, you're fine. And then bench, I didn't really notice much there. But even in deadlifts, the knurling on it was so much finer.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Like it didn't really have much bite to it at all to the point where 315 even felt like, where's the knurling at on this thing? And at first I thought it was just me, and I think I made a comment to Corey, and he had the exact same. Corey said after his second deadlift, he's like, the like it feels like the knurling is so fine or like i can't feel any knurling on it compared to our tech like a texas power bar yeah and even when uh i've never been going for like a heavy single and locked it out at the top and thought grip wasn't like that's never in my mind been been a thing is to think of the grip. Think you're going to lose it at the top.
Starting point is 00:19:45 And after my second attempt on deadlift at, what was it, 535, I think, I remember like right before I got the down command thinking like, this thing doesn't feel like it's in here that well. And all I could account that to was just the fact that the knurling isn't aggressive on those bars. I would say we had one lifter who, not one of our guys, but we did have one lifter who did just lose a deadlift at the top. Did you see that?
Starting point is 00:20:07 No. You may not have noticed it. He had got it up, completely locked out, and then grip went. That was it. He was fully locked out, too. The down command may have happened at the moment that he came right out of his hand. Once it came out of his hand, it just spit him out the back, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:26 And it did. I mean, grip just went out. Yeah. What about, was that bar pretty stiff? Yeah, I mean, I think stiffness is pretty uniform across all of us. Any more than, more or less than anything you're used to? I guess I don't know it well enough to know if, it wasn't a deadlift bar. So, you know, at a certain point, a stiff bar is a stiff bar.
Starting point is 00:20:47 So, but yeah, I mean, you really can't complain about it too much either because the whole warm-up area was awesome. You had like a nice pad. Where does Jonah get all of those racks? That's what I want to know. Between the six, that's $15,000 worth of ER racks. And I would have never guessed. That's what I'm wondering because Jonah also trains kind of in a small space
Starting point is 00:21:03 that's by himself mostly so i'm guessing he's got one and he's got about two or three thousand dollars worth of bars there and if someone wanted to tell me to like take a guess for like how many er racks exist in the state of south dakota my guess would have been like two less than what was there so i don't know where they came from it's awesome that they managed to pull them all together but yeah no idea who's who's stashing these things away. They were nice, though. I had to go fiddle with, you know, because I look at that stuff with the gym, you know, always checking that out.
Starting point is 00:21:31 And I was like, oh, yeah, these are really nice. You know, I mean, still really extensive. Wouldn't spend the money on it. It's really nice, though. It's really cool. One thing I thought was interesting, too, and this is really getting into the finer points of equipment here, but after using our bench in the gym, the nice Elite FTS bench, the spotter stands on that come way back behind the person's head. On the ER rack, they start at the back of the headrest and come in towards the bench. So when you're standing giving someone a lift off, you really are straddling the top of their head,
Starting point is 00:22:06 which is a little different than what I'm used to with that. So ours is back. Yeah, it's back more. So when someone needs a lift off, you can still technically stand behind them and give the lift off. With this, you are standing. The platforms are on each side of the bench.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Yeah, they're not either behind. No, they don't start until even with the bench going forward. What about for you guys, me having never done a powerlifting meet, inconsistencies or anything like that with a liftoff? Does that get – You know, I didn't notice it at all. As long as someone isn't – when it comes to liftoffs, the biggest thing is always that you're not overpowering.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Too much. Yeah, doing too much to the point where you're going to kind of undo what the person has done in their setup. You mean that they are like. Less is more for me. Yeah. Let's go over this. So me, I haven't done a whole lot of power lifting. I maybe haven't done a whole lot of spot lifting i maybe haven't done a whole lot of spotting a bunch of liftoffing i if i'm benching i would say half of my bench sessions are just me
Starting point is 00:23:10 yeah so for a liftoff what do you want do you want somebody to just get there and just give just enough so you don't gotta basically no upward movement yeah they're basically almost just getting the guiding it moving yeah. Just helping you move it. Like helping it up. Barely like just enough clearance to pull it out. But like when people, if you know, if you're going for a heavy bench and people like,
Starting point is 00:23:34 like this, you know, like this thing, then you go like, yeah, completely pulls your shoulders out because you know, in a, in a regular bench or ideally setting up for like a
Starting point is 00:23:46 competition style your shoulder blades should be retracted to the point where that is limiting the range of motion a little bit so when someone pulls it farther than what you have your shoulder blades at you have to accommodate by bringing your shoulders out with it and now all of a sudden you've lost all your positioning so the the spotters did a great job there was never a point where i felt like i've probably been a a bad bench spotter my entire life. You probably have been, Tyler. Well, because what I do, and not that I do it often. Is deadlift it into their hands?
Starting point is 00:24:11 Because if anyone asks me for a spot, I'm like, man, don't be a bitch. No, but I have probably been that guy where I've been like, I'll grab it and I'll be like, well, I'm going to help you out. I'm going to fucking over. like well i'm gonna help you out i'm gonna fucking yeah over so but like if the person if the person lifting is not someone that benches like a power lifter they're not gonna be yeah set back like that anyways they're probably just gonna be like this so yeah it really wouldn't affect but like if you're really tucked with you know your shoulder blades retracted and everything like to go like this is like completely gets you out of it oh yeah for sure for sure what about uh now at that apf meet you could have your
Starting point is 00:24:51 own liftoff guy yes yep and us apl you can't i would say this so i've done like 12 meet competition benches and i've never had i've never the liftoff has never even been a thought to me so i've done apf and us apl both and like they do a good job of getting someone in there that knows what they're doing like i've always been like well i guess like i've never had one where i'm like oh that kind of messes me up and you're supposed to when you go out because some people don't train with a partner so they do their own liftoffs they't ever need anything. And so they tell you that when you go out there. If you need a liftoff, tell them I go on three, I go on whatever your cadence is, so the spotter knows.
Starting point is 00:25:33 And the first one, I was pretty fired up going out there. I didn't say anything, and I just remember walking out. My timing, they said they were strict about the one-minute rule with this. I never saw anyone get dinged for it because I think everyone made it but i remember going out and hearing like 20 seconds left or something and thinking like oh i gotta get moving and just kind of being in the zone i went straight to the bench and i remember digging my shoulders in thinking i didn't say i want to lift up on this and for a split second panicking in my brain i was i was just going to start counting and hope the guy showed up and right when i started to think that he just magically showed up anyways and so that really
Starting point is 00:26:08 saved me some possible issues i think the default thought is that they're you're gonna want yeah it's pretty rare i would say at that point like when you're doing basically a max effort bench yeah be like how about you just tell me if you want me to fuck off and move off this platform. I did. I guess this year at the APF meet, I told them I do not want a lift off. Oh, really? But I wasn't benching. I just went and did one bench.
Starting point is 00:26:35 You were just being polite. Yeah. No, no. I wasn't doing any real weight, and I didn't want to mess up my shoulder with a lift off. So I just said, I don't want one. And they're kind of like, oh, okay. Because it's pretty rare that anyone says. You should, you should, what you should have done is you should have just walked up, sat down on the bench and look back and be like, I don't need a liftoff.
Starting point is 00:26:53 You just pop each peck one at a time, lay back. Um, we had, so Tommy, you were nine for nine. A PR, all time PR squat. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So the day, as far as the day for me, to me, my goal with this really, you know, I said there was that 1350 total, but was to really going into it, like, just know who I am, know what I can do. You know, it's really easy to kind of like lie to yourself or play it up.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Like you're magically going to show up and hit big prs like i've had this perfect peak and this pr is going to be i just got to show up it's going to be there like i'm just going to blow everything up and that's the thing with powerlifting is you got to be really honest with yourself you got to be real with yourself and i i kind of talked to tanner about this is i kind of had this realization with my bench you know i had been using the uh that elite fts bench in the gym which is 14 inch wide it's a little wider pad it's super grippy and for whatever reason after using that thing for I don't know what we had at four or five months yeah um I felt like I really really knew how to get the most out of
Starting point is 00:27:57 that bench and I had done some they were touch and go a very slow touch and go but I had done multiple 340 reps on there I I'd done pause three 30s. Um, and it was never an issue. And then all of a sudden it's like, yeah, you know, the meat's coming up in like three weeks. Maybe I'll try this other bench. And my bench went down instantly. And rather than be like, well, I I'm doing three 30, no matter what I had to kind of readjust my game plan. And so, you know, if, if I just had this number made up in my head and just said, I'm just doing it bench or the whole day would have looked a lot different so, you know, if, if I just had this number made up in my head and just said, I'm just doing it, bench or the whole day would have looked a lot different. But you know, if you can be honest with yourself and be real with yourself, you're going to have a much better
Starting point is 00:28:33 day. And because you did that. So you still hit a good bench. You had a 320 pound bench, so maybe 10 pounds less than what you were thinking before. But because you did that, it didn't cost you say 30 pounds or something yeah something ridiculous you know yeah and bench is the one where it maybe didn't go completely how i had it in my head but that's the same thing too of you know like you never know how things are going to go until you're there the day of the meet like you can't get so ingrained in your plan that you can't you know call an audible yeah you made the adjustment on the fly which yeah i did my first attempt and for whatever reason you know call an audible yeah you made the adjustment on the fly yeah i did my first attempt and for whatever reason you know i said maybe it was a mixture of you know i said i came out a
Starting point is 00:29:09 little late i forgot to tell that guy three but my first attempt i did it and right away i knew something felt not right it was like 300 pounds which is never an issue for me and even you said it you're like yeah that didn't move too fast yeah so it's like well i was going to go for like 315 maybe even more on my second attempt we jumped i think we went to 308 yeah 308 just thinking like well we'll just get what we can out of this and i my back was really tight so uh mobility wad master cory came to the uh rescue with his lacrosse ball he had an entire fucking bag okay i think we got we got to pause this yeah we need to go into this This is a good story in itself here is –
Starting point is 00:29:45 Corey brought fucking everything including things that were weights from the gym. Like you would think he brought everything from the gym that's not weights. Also brought weights. Yeah, and this started – Corey kind of has the joke of being like mobility expert Corey or mobility wad Corey. He kind of is. Yeah, he is. He puts more time than anyone.
Starting point is 00:30:06 We're definitely not saying that he doesn't know what he's doing, but, but he's the guy. Yeah. And we were, we were showing up and Ryan goes, oh, do you think Corey brought all those mobility tools? I'm like, yeah, I'm sure. And it wasn't more than a few minutes into seeing Corey. He's like, um, so I brought, uh, a lacrosse ball. I brought the foam roller and I got the shoulder rock in my car too. Right. The shoulder. No, he did. And he's like um so i brought uh a lacrosse ball i brought the foam roller and i got the shoulder rock in my car too right the shoulder like no he did and he's like yeah it's in my car
Starting point is 00:30:30 oh okay like he really did bring all of the i think he brought some bands too maybe like he had all of it with first off that's how you know you're training at the right gym when you can just take equipment from the gym put it in your car take it three hours, don't tell anybody until you get to there and nobody's like, what the fuck man and that's what I thought, I'm like, oh yeah him and Tanner probably planned it out, like yeah you should really bring the shoulder rock
Starting point is 00:30:55 I told Tanner, he's like, Corey took the shoulder rock you had no idea I just thought, I couldn't care less about that, but just like why did he bring the fucking but now that But I just thought, like, I couldn't care less about that. But just, like, I'm like, God, he brought that. Like, that's crazy. But now that we also have the shoulder rock at the strongman competition. So that's just a nice thing to have. That is a nice thing to have.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Yeah. But tying it back to the mobility thing is, or even just having a game plan and kind of going with the punches is, after that first bench, my back was so tight, just knotting up. And I think, you know, between being busy, you probably don't even get hydration the way you normally do on a meet day either. And Corey came to the rescue with his lacrosse ball. I really worked that knot between my first and second attempt.
Starting point is 00:31:38 And I went out in the second one that felt great. And so I think we went from like three or from like 297 to 308 and then jumped into like 319 on the third and watching it i'm like that 319 looks how like how i wanted my second attempt to look yeah and i think there was more there looked much better than your opener yeah you know at that point like it moved away better than that first attempt yeah for sure so i mean gave up a little there's a matter of just being fluid with the day though like like it would be it would be wonderful to come in and say you went nine for nine and you fucking pr'd everything yeah but it's like never gonna well it might happen for some people but
Starting point is 00:32:13 that's rare yeah but but coming in and hitting every lift you had to adapt and you to keep to salvage your total you know yeah yeah so that that's that's i think a huge part of the meat prep though is is going into it and like being, just being real with yourself is we have a deadlift bar in the gym. I could have been using a deadlift bar. I could have been using our really wide plates. And, you know, in training, I might think that my deadlift is 20 to 30, maybe even 40 more pounds than what it actually is.
Starting point is 00:32:38 But we switch it to like eight weeks out or maybe, yeah, it was probably about two months. Yeah. Two months out. We switched to the stiff bar and we were using all the metal plates every time too just to emulate that meat day feel as much as possible so there was no surprises when when that day finally came well the goal of a power lifting meet is to have the highest total possible like at the end of the like that is the number is the total that's how you're compared against everyone else and you know wilks you could look at too, but it's the,
Starting point is 00:33:05 your total. So, and it's your total that day. Like, it's not the total that you wish you could have, or that you think you should get or anything like that. The total that you've put together on your three best lifts. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:16 All together. You know, it's, it's what you, if you have to look at that day specifically and figure out, you know, and go by what's the best you can do. I do look at it this way too, is're game planning for the whole day and you're game
Starting point is 00:33:28 planning for the meet and for three lifts you know you don't go into a into a football game you may put some if you're game planning your football team and you're going to say well you know win this game we're going to want to have more rushing yards than the other team we're going to want to have more turnovers in the other team we're going to want to have more passing yards in the other team and we're going to fucking then we're going to win to have more turnovers in the other team. We're going to want to have more passing yards in the other team. And we're going to fucking, then we're going to win. It's like, that's wonderful. But if you come in and they outrush you, well, you better fucking figure something out. Because what matters at the end of the day is the score on the board.
Starting point is 00:33:55 More points, yeah. And that's exactly what I think really all of our guys did a really good job of salvaging the day first. And not that we had a bunch of missed lifts. No. But I think everybody had a really good idea on what to do for the day first. And not that we had a bunch of missed lifts. No. But I think everybody had a really good idea on what to do for the day. One of the things I want to get to, too, is Ryan. Ryan had, really, I would say, great day on the squat,
Starting point is 00:34:16 great day on the bench. Yep, PR on squat and PR on bench. I think it was exactly where we wanted to be on bench. Yeah, 260. Comes out. Ryan's deadlift is what he's been waiting for all day. Ryan's a deadlifting fucking phenom. So he was coming out to put up some big numbers.
Starting point is 00:34:32 First deadlift. Do you remember what the weight was? I think it opened at 545. 545, which for Ryan is like picking up a tic-tac off the floor. And Ryan did. Well, here's what Ryan did. Ryan did what Larry did in the last meet which we thought was kind of bullshit yeah except ryan did the shit out of it yeah
Starting point is 00:34:51 ryan pulled it and it was light it went well i think it was exciting very fast i think it almost went so fast it was so fast off balance he gets it all the way up to the top and then and then like immediately like throws him forward comes back forward because he was just like boom yeah and it threw him back forward and then he knew he was fucked and then he's so then he just like threw the bar down and then not out of like it wasn't like an angry like ah it was almost like this whole situation so wrong i need to be out of here so he pulled it up and went forward and you could tell he just he dropped the bar and then he went oh fuck i made it worse yeah like put his hands on us and then he shot out and he's just like i get the fuck out of here and uh embarrassing and and so having watched it i was like oh fuck what does he do what does he do what does he do and the last thing i wanted to see was
Starting point is 00:35:41 have him come out and like try to hit that weight again. And I didn't even know that you could do this, that you could miss a weight and still move up. Yeah. Yep. You can never move down ever. But is that the way it is always? Yeah. In every federation? I know at nationals this year, I think like John Hatt.
Starting point is 00:35:58 It's a common thing to happen. Yeah. I think John Hatt got called for like depth on like his second attempt at like 640. And he's just like, no, I got my third attempt. It just moved up to his third attempt. Especially in single ply lifting or equipped lifting, it's very common. Like every meet it happens all the time because of the depth reason. Because like people will blow it up, their opener,
Starting point is 00:36:17 and it'd be like, ah, two red lights because of depth. And they're like, ah, it's not going to waste another attempt. I'll sort the depth thing out with a better weight. So Ryan came out then. Second attempt, what did he put up second time? Was it 585? Yeah. Or whatever the game was.
Starting point is 00:36:35 584. Yeah. So Ryan come out, fucking nailed that. Just hammered it. Exactly what he should have done. The worst thing that you could do is come out and change your game plan there. You could have come in. What could have happened there is he could have acknowledged that that happened.
Starting point is 00:36:53 He could have moved some things around. But what you should have done with a thing like that, you hit the lift. You just missed some shit. Delete it. Act like it just didn't happen and just move on. The difference there is understanding the reason that you didn't happen and just move on and the difference there is understanding the reason that you didn't get the lift like it's different than your bench you know your first bench it was like you know didn't know the reason but it's like oh it just kind of moves
Starting point is 00:37:13 slower like it looks slower feeling good yeah but like ryan's dead left it's like he crushed that yeah but then he just like did a silly thing at the end that all goes right into like just being able to objectively look at the situation and be like did he silly thing at the end that all goes right into like just being able to objectively look at the situation and be like did he miss it because the strength isn't there or did he miss it because it was just a mental thing and he can move on yeah you know that's part of it all too so we come out nailed a second lift then third one came out with 605 606 606 which is a six pound pr all-time pr all-time pr plus 100 pound meat pr well 90 pounds probably something like that but uh and now that one was a lift that he had he had to work for the first one i was surprised it moved
Starting point is 00:37:52 it moved so fast off the floor yeah off the floor even to about a couple inches past his knees it was going really fast yeah and then things started to hang up and i was at a point where i was just all i was thinking i was like just squeeze that fucker up but but but it's tempting there especially because where he was at which was mid thigh you know where that's the moment when you can just be like hitch that bitch up and and he did he just he just ground that fucker out the last couple inches and nailed it the judging on the deadlift uh like that was definitely a good lift and everything like it's just sometimes with the strictness you you see some of those like at the lockout where it's like even watching it there there's some where i'm like i know that that's a good lift but as i watch it i'm like who i wonder if they're gonna catch any red yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:38:37 you don't know how the judges are gonna call but i thought the judging on the deadlifting was there people were getting the benefit of like that was a good lift but if it was a close the lifters were getting the benefit of the doubt on squat I think it was the opposite maybe because it was early in the day were they calling a decent amount of people there was a lot of red lights
Starting point is 00:38:57 even if they were just getting one on squatting there was a lot of red lights throughout the day but not arguing against that either but it like on those iffy calls on the squat i think it was more going to red lights than white lights yeah if it was you know if you were within that like say five percent yeah margin you were getting red early in the day and you're getting white late in the day but ryan's lift was it was good but it was such a fucking grind where like when he gets done
Starting point is 00:39:23 nobody claps until you see them yeah nobody claps you see fucking grind where like when he gets done nobody claps yeah nobody claps because you're like that he works so fucking hard and you're like please be white please be white and pops up white and i mean saved he's totally saved his day saved saved his meat completely yeah by just moving on from the first attempt and he and then as well as you could have expected right yeah oh yeah i mean well especially if you're a deadlift guy you do the whole rest of media it went good and like oh that's pretty cool but he's like i really want a deadlift now you know and then like to not do well on that and have it be the last one you're kind of like ah kind of sucks yeah that's the type of thing that'll mentally
Starting point is 00:39:58 just throw people for a loop like that's what you've been waiting all day for and now it's kind of like waiting for a uh sandbag carry at a strongman competition, dropping it right before the fucking finish line. Two feet before the finish line. And then being too smoked to get it up and take 30 seconds to pick it up and carry it back across the finish line, and then losing first place by three seconds. Because of that.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Only that, and that's the thing that you're definitely specialized in. And I don't know anyone who that's happened to recently at a state strongman competition. But that would suck to be that person. And they would think about that every time. All the time. Every time that they try to go to sleep forever. That they could still be the strongest man in the state. But that they're not anymore because they dropped a bag one foot before the fucking line um yeah well good thing that that
Starting point is 00:40:50 didn't happen to ryan yeah he said it happened to some other chump with a beard that he shaved and now he looks stupid his wife resents him every day. But anyway, so aside from my sad story, that we didn't even talk about that competition, I think we should just postpone that. We'll maybe discuss that next week. But fucking Larry. Larry, they call him the legend for a reason. Yeah, so Larry ended up in a very stacked weight division with Tommy.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Yeah, there was some... Who all was in that weight? Do you know? Tim Feathers. Tim Feathers from the Strongman competition as well. That was his first powerlifting meet. The South Dakota guy in charge of US Strongman. So he was moving over into the powerlifting for the first time.
Starting point is 00:41:41 And he did really well. Pulled a good deadlift like 570 something i think in there but uh like his third squat looked faster than most people's opener you know like the same with this bench press like he just tim even said on his on his instagram here this morning he said he was like i left at least i left at least 10 kilos on every fucking lift for sure. Like he left like for sure over 50 pounds on the day, like 50 to 75 pounds. Which is, I mean. That's not a bad thing on your first meet, I don't think. You can train really well and you can be really strong and that's all you can control during the year.
Starting point is 00:42:17 You come to the meet, weight selection, lift selection, like all of that is the stuff that comes with, that's what comes with experience. Yeah. weight selection, lift selection, all of that is the stuff that comes with experience. So to miss on that, it's not like he wasn't as strong as he could be coming into this. Just some rough selection. But Tim was in that weight class. Who else? So he finished fourth right above you.
Starting point is 00:42:37 No. I got fourth. You got fourth. He got fifth right below you. And Jake got third right above you. Okay. And then Ty from Jackal's Gym got second. Yep.
Starting point is 00:42:49 That kid, how old is he? 20? 21? 21? Yeah. Somewhere right in there. Yeah. And he is strong.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Fucking. Former, so was it in juniors or teen that he was, he finished second at Worlds? Yeah, he was an IPF silver medalist for Worlds in one of those age groups. I forgot. I got to pee and it's an emergency. You guys carry on. It's at one of those age groups where he was the silver medalist. In the entire world. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:14 So that's kind of a big deal. And it definitely shows because the kid can squat and deadlift. What did he squat? In between 550 and 600 or something like that. Yeah, it was high 500s, I thought. The kilo conversion, you start to lose track of it. Yeah, so he put up some really solid numbers, but the legend is just something that people aren't ready for.
Starting point is 00:43:35 I think Larry totaled like 1455 or something like that. Do you know what Larry's best total ever is? It might have. Well, he's totaled more raw with wraps. Yeah, so not counting wraps. Yeah, yeah. So not counting that. Yeah, I think maybe 1445. So I think he improved his USAPL total by 10 pounds at 40 years old.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Nothing wrong with that. He's done probably, I don't know, 10 plus powerlifting meets. And he's still, you know, he's still out totaling. He's still getting the hang of it. He's still getting it figured out. But so he had a national qualifying total in Masters, of course, but then in the Open he did too by quite a margin too. And actually, Corey, his third deadlift attempt put him exactly
Starting point is 00:44:20 at national qualifying total. That's why he took that attempt. So that's pretty cool. I mean, not everyone does that. Yeah. And he got fifth in his, he got fifth place in his weight class. So everyone, all five of those guys qualified.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Yeah, so we talk about how often it is where like you'll just get a gold medal. Yeah, this was not the case. In the 205 and the 231 or 105 kilogram weight class and the 183, there was no default gold for sure. There wasn't even... There was enough people in the flights that they were placing five and people were doing pretty good and not getting anything. That's the deal.
Starting point is 00:45:03 I was surprised that they were giving out plaques all the way out to fifth. But then you see that all five of those lifters fucking hit national qualifying totals. Yeah, yeah. Traditionally, especially around here, you qualify for nationals, which people will say that it's not an impressive total. But just to even use it as a benchmark, you qualify for nationals. That usually means like your first, if not first, second. And so the fact that Corey could qualify for nationals and be fourth or fifth
Starting point is 00:45:30 or whatever it was, that shows like how deep it actually was for this stuff. And so I'm pretty sure all three 183 guys qualified. Five guys in 205, at least five, I don't know, maybe the sixth. No, he would have tied because Corey made the minimum. So five guys in 205. In 231, I'm pretty sure three of them. That's what I would assume is three. Qualified.
Starting point is 00:45:51 So between those three weight classes, you know, there was 11 guys that qualified for nationals. So that's a tough competition. Yeah. Like receiving one of those awards, especially in those weight classes, Yeah, yeah. Like, receiving one of those awards, especially in those weight classes, means something to be able to total high enough to get in there with that many guys. So that's really, from a spectator, that makes a meet really fun to watch,
Starting point is 00:46:16 where it's like, well, there's not just one guy crushing everyone else. Well, and you know, with this meet, too, there wasn't a lot of, I would say, Well, and, you know, with this meet, too, there wasn't a lot of, I would say, like really, really transcendent, like next level, huge, huge heavy totals. There was some heavy lifts. Yeah. Big deadlifts. What's the Hanson kid?
Starting point is 00:46:36 Alex Hanson. Alex Hanson from Jackals. Jesus Christ. And he come down 20 pounds? He's down a weight class. He oftentimes lifts in the 205, and he came into the 183, and he missed his third deadlift, which would have been, I think it was 633 or 639. 638. Yeah, something like that.
Starting point is 00:46:53 But he pulled 628 at that second attempt, and it didn't look overly hard. No, that at 183 is, I don't understand how he weighs 183. Like, he doesn't look huge, but he looks bigger than 180, you know, 183. Yeah. He also doesn't look like a person where I was talking about this with somebody.
Starting point is 00:47:12 I was like, he's just like, that is such a strong deadlift. Not saying that he looks like he's weak or anything like that, but to just like stumble into somebody and be like, Hey, let's have a deadlift competition for the titles to our cars or something i'd be like all right let's go for it yeah yeah and he would fucking smash me like
Starting point is 00:47:30 fucking smash me he's like he is such a he and his he's not like he's weak at his other lifts either i mean no he's a strong squatter and a moderate bencher yeah i mean but kills it on deadlift obviously yeah i mean he is a fucking hell of a lifter for sure the guy that won uh the 205 weight class also he he pulled 638 639 and that's a pretty impressive lift there too yeah that's for sure that's pretty big time deadlifting i think was the those you know some of those deadlifts were kind of the most impressive i think there's one bencher He benched 190 on his third. He was in Ryan's weight.
Starting point is 00:48:08 I'm pretty sure it's the guy that... 190 kilos? Yeah, 190 kilos. It's like 420 pounds or whatever. And moved it like it wasn't. Yeah, like I was over there hanging out right up close to the table like I always was. And he came over before his third. And after he picked it, I asked him what he took.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Because I saw how easily his second lift went and i think it was 407 yeah and i was like whoa like it looked faster than an opener should and i said you i said he i asked what he's going to do and i said uh you need to go for 200 kilos for sure which is 440 yeah and he said oh i'm going 190 and the way 190 moved he should have definitely gone for 440 and this isn't to call the guy out because it was good and he was really really strong yeah yeah but but he got done with that he got done with that i want to say it was for so 190 i don't know whatever that is i think 420 42020-something. And he gets done with that. And as soon as he's done, Gino's like, lift is good. He needs to put some weight on that bar. And that was the heaviest bench by quite a bit for the day.
Starting point is 00:49:16 I don't know if there's many over 400. I don't know if there was any. No, he was, I think, the only person who lifted over 400. I think he had all three of his lifts were over 400. He was a miles of better better venture than everybody else there um that was that was pretty impressive yeah you you know you know it looked easy when gino's announcing like better put some weight on that bar on your third attempt yeah you know that's a good feeling though still same way like i talked to him afterwards and i was like man he should have done went 200 kilos on that he's like yeah that was still a pr for me and everything it's like yeah that's you don't
Starting point is 00:49:49 like hitting a pr and having it feel good you're not like you're winning not losing that's a win yeah that's one of the things i've i've seen quite a few people have that as a philosophy is like if you get a pr you take it yeah and that's it yeah like even if like if you get a five pound pr and you think you've got five or ten more in you just don't do it right save it for another take that because if you have it in you then you can enjoy that again in a few months yeah and then the psychological aspect as long as as long as it's moving forward you're still winning the game and uh but all in all it was a really good meet meet. What do you guys do for food? Because I was fucking starving, and I could leave to eat.
Starting point is 00:50:30 We bought some stuff. We packed a light lunch. Leah whipped some sandwiches together for us. We had a cooler with sandwiches. We had some Clif Flars. Sandwiches on hamburger buns? Yes, the classic. The go-to.
Starting point is 00:50:42 So that's what we did. Other people, like like Larry were less prepared and just asked everyone else for food until they gave it to him. Corey said the same thing. I said, Corey, what have you guys been eating all day? Because I've got to get the fuck out of here. And he goes, I've just been eating Grayson's rice cakes all day.
Starting point is 00:50:58 And then I think Ryan's like, oh, well, I have Rice Krispie bars if you don't want a rice cake. And then he gave him a rice. And I'm like, I think it's just a rice cake with more sugar in it. He didn't really do anything different there. But, yeah, that's what it was just packing. Your timing worked all right to get breakfast safely and get back? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:14 No, it wasn't tight at all. We weighed in, got our equipment checked. That's right. You had to weigh in that morning. Yeah, and our hotel was, by the time you got to your car it was a 30 second drive so we got to our hotel the continental breakfast right there um ate a little bit of food but at that point you're just so amped up it's hard to eat you know uh so we ate a little bit and then went back to the uh to the venue so you're probably set up pretty good to total over 1400 pounds next
Starting point is 00:51:39 year then yeah you know so looking back let's go back what was your total now so i did 1367 which well yeah i mean yeah if your bench goes how let's just figuratively let's say let's say you had you had you had what your bench maybe you thought you could get if things go as well as they could of your 1375 1380 and even, like my squat. So I squatted, I guess, I don't even know if we said my numbers, but squatted 501 bench three 19 and deadlifted a five 45, five 45,
Starting point is 00:52:13 46 or whatever. And, uh, so the squat, that was a PR, uh, all time PR, all time PR.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Yeah. I, I've had a rep in the gym of four 95 or Ryan may or may not have touched me. So I, I've never really wanted to count that. So the official clean rep I had had previously was 485. So depending on where that's at, it's anywhere from a 5 to 15-pound PR. And then deadlift, that 545 was a 10-pound PR.
Starting point is 00:52:39 And I think that squat was getting probably pretty close to the limit. That deadlift, the way it felt and the way it looked, i still feel like maybe there was a little more there i don't know but um yeah looking at last year compared to this year that was like i put like 167 pounds on my total so if i just do that like four or five more years in a row i'll be setting world records in no time because i think that's how it works for sure before it's just completely linear like there's no i would say that though that that speaks a little bit to like how well everyone did and the improvements is the effectiveness of sub-maximal training and percentage-based training and not necessarily testing and you're one rep maxing out ever almost yeah and that works because when you go to like with just a little bit of
Starting point is 00:53:24 slight peaking for it when you get to the meet the numbers are there yeah like you don't don't you don't need to worry if for weeks you're not like if you're losing strength or like it was there was never doubt my mind like oh like i hit 535 on deadlift a couple weeks ago like maybe that's just completely gone like yeah you feel pretty confident it's there it's more like is the pr going to be there or not right so yeah it felt really really good and to see that progression of because i think the year before that was from my first meet to my second meet i want to say i put like 70 pounds on my total and uh because you were probably like an 11 30 it was like 11 30 my second meet was like rated at 1200 or 11 99 so then to have this big jump all you can say is the massonomics effect
Starting point is 00:54:04 that's a full that's a full year the massonomics effect that's hashtag that's the full that's a full year of massonomics training right there because the year before you only had uh what do we have three months maybe yeah so you made like a 70 pound yeah it was in those three months you know yeah which is solid for three months yeah but then so with a full 12 months yeah yeah you get to take all those games. What was Ryan's total improvement? So he was pretty close to 100 on the deadlift, and I would guess on squat he probably had about 70-ish. Yeah. And I don't know if his bench really changed much at all.
Starting point is 00:54:35 It was up a little bit, about 15 pounds. Yeah, so he was probably... I think he was 170 pounds. Yeah, he was probably right in that 170 area. I think he totaled 1340 or right around there. It's pretty reasonable to expect that same rate of improvement forever. Yeah, I think it just keeps going like that nonstop. Yeah, so I would say, I mean, what are we looking at?
Starting point is 00:54:55 So in 10 years, you guys will be totaling 3,200 pounds. Yeah, roughly. At least. Drug-free in the USAPL. I mean, definitely. Yeah, sky's At least. Drug-free in the USAPL. I mean, definitely. Yeah, sky's the limit. Yeah. Road to 1,800 total.
Starting point is 00:55:10 By the time you guys turn 50, you guys will be totaling 7,000 pounds. A lot of the, like, to speak to the competition level, like a lot of the state South Dakota records raw records raw were broken i'm sure like i haven't really looked in how how many but like a majority of them got broken in the open raw so that's a pretty good meet like for most of the records to get set on one day for sure you know it kind of there's some definitely some good lifters there and on top of that you know the records were what are they yeah they're they're not that old anyways yeah so yeah it was it was time for him to get cycled through yeah and uh larry's total where does that where does that rest in as far as like
Starting point is 00:55:53 a raw total for him that would be his best usa pl not in wraps in knee sleeves well obviously that would be but i mean like his squat what did he squat? 5'51". 5'51". Yeah. And in wraps, he hit 5'89", something like that? No, 5'70". 5'76". Or 3 or whatever that is, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:14 So as far as a squat relative to what is... That's the biggest squat he's ever hit in sleeves. Yeah, that's a really big deal. He's been flirted with that area before, but he's never actually completed the lift at that before. So that's the most he's ever squatted in sleeves. At 40 years old. That's the key there.
Starting point is 00:56:34 That's why Larry is the legend. Yeah. Is that he's at 40, which isn't like, it's not an advanced age, Larry. But like at 40 to still be stronger than you ever have been. Yeah, and Larry will get the mentality sometimes. He's like, I don't feel like I'm doing that well or not really lifting that strong.
Starting point is 00:56:54 And then he always goes out there and does something better than he's ever done before. It's just like he never stops doing that. I think everybody put together a really big day. Big Jake had a big day. Grayson had a really big day. Corey had a big day grayson had a really big day cory had a good day cory cory's day was just like fucking the way cory lives it was just perfect everything he came in looked good everything you know it was just a really good day for cory both the faye brothers combined for you know about a 370 pound improvement over the course of
Starting point is 00:57:24 a year yeah but but larry's day i think was probably the most impressive thing to me because he came out and just fucking hammered it and still with a the bench bench maybe not going the way he wanted it to go still put together a really solid total yeah and with his actual body weight and everything his wilk score would probably be pretty high too. Like it would be a pretty, I don't know what it is, but it would be a very solid Wilks score. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Because he's in the 231, but he really only weighs like. I think what he weighs is. Let's do this. He gave up. Let's fucking do this. What was Larry's total? I think 1455. That's real close within.
Starting point is 00:58:03 And the best overall, Alex Hansen in the 183 i do want to know what i wish i remembered his numbers because his wilks had to have been high yeah what was larry's body weight i think he weighed in at like 215 yeah that it's got to be close it was right in there yeah and uh total body weight or total weight lifted was 14 55 i think 55 it's gotta be Larry's Wilkes score at 405 82 yeah that's pretty yeah to break 400 is is is pretty impressive yeah that's pretty solid that's why he's a legend that's right yep Larry the let fear the legend hashtag how about Gino though too uh shoot shouting out about massonomics so much yeah so that was awesome
Starting point is 00:58:45 he gave lots of love there's a lot of people to give the love back to him there yeah yeah that's that's why it was working too because they're he was getting getting some good feedback yeah when you're in a crowd that can kind of get subdued after some time when you say some shit and you get 20 people like fuck yeah like it's pretty easy to keep feeding that bear yeah but uh yeah so gino kept i'm at a point now where between i'm trying to go through like with what we've done with some other podcast stuff and then some of our interviews that we did at the arnold between gino shouting out to us at the end of his arnold interview between we have a video of him looking directly at the camera for me and one directly at the lift is good where he's like massonomics is in the house all of those things where i think we got to revamp our uh
Starting point is 00:59:32 our podcast intro probably we'll probably cut the audio directly into the uh directly into the the audio intro of us and then we're probably better also overlay some of that video. Cause we've got him, we've got Jesse Burdick talking about massonomics. We have Bill Kazmaier's rant about massonomics. Donnie Thompson. Donnie Thompson. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:53 We still haven't gotten to really talk about all the people that we're going to do that next week. This was really topical. We want to get this out while it's fresh. So, um, but I think that's going to do it today. Do we have anything else we want to get out today? Um, to give us reviews i mean i know we're going to get into that
Starting point is 01:00:08 yeah oh yeah so tanner's going to look it up as i'm going to talk about this okay you're you're still listening to this podcast listening or watching i fucking know you haven't left an itunes review because we looked them up and you haven't fucking left an itunes review so it's not that hard like we're not asking you to go take out a loan we looked them up and you haven't fucking left an iTunes review. So it's not that hard. Like we're not asking you to go take out a loan. We're not even asking you to send any money. It doesn't cost you anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:30 And if you, I mean, if you want to spend money, you can certainly send us money. Hit us up at getbigatastonomics.com. And it's just slightly above the most basic of computer skills. Slightly above. It is not like really rudimentary. It's not the easiest, but you know, you could say you've done it after this. It takes some doing, but it's easier than like setting up a troll Instagram account for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Like a duplicate blocked Instagram account so you can talk shit to celebrities, which we know half of you do. What do you got, Tanner? There is one. There's just one though? Yeah. I had checked like a couple days ago and there wasn't one at all, so... So, before we go into this, though, we're going to read this review, and we're going to read all the reviews.
Starting point is 01:01:09 We haven't actually touched any of these in, like, a month, so the fact that there's only one of you is depressing. And we've been asking for every episode, and we haven't done it yet, get your shit together and leave us a review, please. Just leave it five stars and talk about how terrible we are, but just make sure it's five stars. Yeah. That's all that actually matters, that's all that actually matters. That's all that actually matters as far as I'm concerned.
Starting point is 01:01:28 So Tanner, let's see what we got here. Okay. Title, Great Podcast. So far, so good. I agree with all that. Right in my wheelhouse. This was March 24th, so just a couple days ago, right in time here. Excellent podcast for any level of exercise experience. The guys do a great job of keeping it funny and entertaining from beginning to end
Starting point is 01:01:49 five out of five stars that's good cool now name just a bunch of letters a l k g s t j b bunch bunch of consonants can't even Can't even formulate a pronunciation. And the other thing that we want to bring up, too, is that we also know for sure that both my mother and Tanner's mother have listened to every single episode, and not a single one of them has even left on iTunes. Maybe that's them. Which means that unless your mom goes by A-L-K-S-T-F-G-B.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Not that I know of. She could have a whole online persona that you don't know about, though, Tyler. I don't want to know about the rest of my mother's online personas, but I want my mother to leave me a fucking iTunes review. Give me a little bit of validation, please. Never told me I was good at anything. Never. And also send money.
Starting point is 01:02:49 So I think that'll do it for us today though, guys. But for real, leave us an iTunes review. You guys are really fucking up there. And tell your friends about the podcast. And maybe tell your friends to also leave iTunes reviews. They don't even have to listen to it.
Starting point is 01:03:00 No, just give us reviews. We'd maybe prefer that they don't listen to it. If your friends suck. But, go to madisonomics.com there's all our articles videos there you're going to find our store with all the cool stuff including the lift shirt still the new hotness the newest and most hot hotness oh yeah all of that is available at the store amongst many other things if you want to support the podcast we actually do spend an awful lot of time and money doing this um between traveling going to the arnold we'll get into all those details later but we had a lot of fun watch those arnold videos if
Starting point is 01:03:35 you haven't watched them that's the that's the coolest thing we've probably done all those videos yeah so yeah like it is really cool like Like, they're really good, and the quality is top notch. And it's also embarrassing how few people have watched them. We're looking at them, and there's like 40 people have watched these videos. Those are worthy of thousands of people. Like, seriously, you will watch them and be like, I'm glad I watched these. That was time well spent. Like, that made me laugh.
Starting point is 01:04:01 And not to mention the fact that I would say between all of us that went to go make that happen, not even including the time that we put into it, that probably cost a total of $10,000. You know what I mean? It did. Start adding everything up. And I think we've combined for a total of like 300 YouTube views. So we're either really making shit financial decisions or we're just making some really awesome content
Starting point is 01:04:27 that y'all sons of bitches are not watching. So I know more of you are watching the podcast than have watched those YouTube videos. So youtube.com forward slash massonomics. There's a shit ton of stuff out there from the Arnold that you really need to check out. Facebook, massonomics on Facebook. Make sure you like the page.
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