Massenomics Podcast - Ep. 84: Born Strong

Episode Date: November 13, 2017

Get your popcorn ready and listen to a Massenomics review of the newest strongman documentary "Born Strong".  No spoilers!  The guys also discuss the use of smelling salts by NFL players.. what too...k them so long to join in on the fun? Check the audio above, or the video below... whatever floats your boat. If you don't already have a closet full of Massenomics gear, go to the MASSENOMICS STORE and load up on swag... Also, please CLICK THIS LINK TO GIVE US A 5 STAR RATING ON ITUNES... Click this text to follow Massenomics on Instagram... Vote Massenomics for President in 2020.. Have your barber shave our logo into the side of your head.. Maybe get a Massenomics tattoo while you're at it.    Or you could sign up for our email newsletter at the bottom of this page. Stay Strong, M

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Massanomics, the world's strongest podcast. Find us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at Massanomics. Make sure you go visit massanomics.com. There you'll find the rest of our powerful content. While you're there, check out our store and buy yourself some of that sweet Massanomics gear. All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this week's episode of sweet Massanomics beer. All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this week's episode of the Massanomics Podcast. I am Tyler, and to my left is Tommy.
Starting point is 00:00:31 What's up? And across the way is Tanner. Hey, everybody. And I'm sure now you're going to tell us all our voices apart for the entire rest of the episode. What do we got on the docket today? We have a few things we need to really dive into today. we've got a full agenda today and here's what i think buckle in this could push three hours i think we need to get into right away and then we'll revisit it when
Starting point is 00:00:54 we're trying to uh sell some shit but mainly because if you're watching on the video there's a bunch of shit on the table here yeah and uh by shit i mean the dope but not shit but totally not shit uh we got the new uh the new massonomics vacuum insulated water bottles here stainless steel um and they're pretty much we've dubbed them the flex flask the flex flask i fucking really like that they're live on the website, actually, too. Now, the question is, can I buy one of each right now? Do we have the inventory for me to do that? Not.
Starting point is 00:01:34 We have a limited inventory of... These are all limited supply, we should say, so you might want to get on these. We will get more in stock, but this initial one is... I need a huge life, I need a lift one, and I need the straight massonomics one. I need three. Would you say it's because you can never be too hydrated? I would say, for certain. It's also because we're going to...
Starting point is 00:01:54 Megan's got Strongman Nationals here this week. We're leaving Wednesday, so we have to flex massonomics pretty hard down there. So can you take these on an airport? Oh, yeah. No problem with that, right? Yeah can you take these on an airport? Oh, yeah. No problem with that, right? Yeah. Do they need to be empty? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:09 And they can't be filled with gasoline or anything? Nope. They cannot be filled with gasoline nor knives. Well, where do you put your knives then? I don't know. In your knife holster, I think. Right next to your gun. So this is the OG Flex Flask.
Starting point is 00:02:27 All of them come in either white or black uh og flex flask we recommend getting both though yeah honestly i think it's going to depend on your day the lift flex flask and the huge life flex flask which for uh people they might not be familiar, but this is kind of an unreleased design. It hasn't been really on anything. No, you can't get it in a shirt yet or anything. It's been around for a little bit. It's probably over a year now.
Starting point is 00:02:56 It's maybe one of the oldest things we've had around, actually. Other than Tyler. Fuck. We have a guy like Larry on the roster, and you guys are making the age thing about me this is bullshit I like to do that about anyone that's just slightly older than me like two years older than Tanner
Starting point is 00:03:12 he's like this old son of a bitch these are all 41 ounces double wall stainless steel I have to look at our website here read that to the people what website is that massonomics.com oh it seems like a pretty sweet sweet place to be shop um is that a forward or backslash forward what's the difference one
Starting point is 00:03:35 is it angles forward is it the top do you is the backslash when the top leans back yeah i don't do i guess i have no fun that's what i always thought i never thought about that hard but i thought like when you're looking at a graph and it goes up and to the right that's forward and when it goes down and to the right that's that's backwards but i could be wrong there do you like encode and stuff they are they do mean different things yeah yeah they do mean different things okay i don't know that i can't confirm that tommy might have made that up okay we'll never know. Keep yourself hydrated and look damn good doing it with the Massonomics Flex Flask.
Starting point is 00:04:10 The OG features our iconic M logo engraved by freaking laser beams. Your choice of brilliant white or matte black finish. 41 ounces, double wall, stain the steel, wide mouth. Perfect for water, coffee, pre-workout, beer, whiskey, Everclear, or a combination of all six. Apparently no good for gasoline and knives, though, we found out. That might make the other ones
Starting point is 00:04:35 less enjoyable after that. The knives? Yeah. Or if you can think of something else to put in here, buy one of these, take a picture, and send it to us, and we will gladly... You know, we should can think of something else to put in here, buy one of these, take a picture, and send it to us,
Starting point is 00:04:46 and we will gladly. You know, we should have got these with that secret useless compartment on the bottom that unscrews. Did I ever show you guys those? Yeah. You had a bodybuilding that. Yeah, I didn't talk about that on here, did I? No. So I got these.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Well, I didn't get these. Fucking my wife bought because they're on sale, so she bought like 20 of these. She didn't have these yet. They didn't have those out yet. But there's like a thing. If something's on sale, you can't pass up the deal no and you have to buy many yeah so take advantage of it but what it was is it's a shaker bottle but like a really shitty one and then it has this the bottom screws out and but it's not meant to be where you put like
Starting point is 00:05:20 your protein powder because then there's this thing that raises almost like it's almost like the size of your wallet but it's just too small for a wallet to fit in so is this called the cooler no no but it actually like goes up into the deal up like into the bottom of the thing so there's just this like i don't know like cassette tape or two cassette tape sized void where you can't put you know with it there's not liquid in there so this thing holds like is that where you'd put like your credit card i don't know what the point would be i couldn't figure that you can't fit car keys in there anything anymore like maybe like a granola bar or something but it's like who eats why would you just hold it two larabars who uh i wonder who
Starting point is 00:06:01 who is the genius that came up with this. Like, this is going to be handy. There's a reason those are getting liquidated. And they're made shitty. They leak and break all the time. But, like, the fact is they hold, like, nine ounces of liquid then because of that big hunk of shit taking up all the space. You could never use it for protein. It's not like an ice thing, is it? No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:06:19 You could never use it for protein because it wouldn't. No, you definitely couldn't because it would melt and nothing would leak out everywhere um but you can't put protein even in the shaker portion of it because there's all those little square you know there's all that shit in the way it would be the worst thing in the world to clean um so it's only good for like maybe creatine or pre-workout maybe did you ever try and use it oh no no i use it for water handy like at what point you're like no you need that well no and i never used this the void in it yeah so it's just a a really shitty cup the small one too so um these do not have any useless compartments it has one very purposeful compartment i would say only the essentials this these are good size if you can't
Starting point is 00:07:04 tell on the reason it's 41 ounces is so you can still pour one ounce out for the homies and still have exactly 40 ounces for yourself like and another thing i i personally have a bottle that's 40 ounces by another brand somewhat similar to this and did they have a similar name kind of kind of yeah um but at the time when i got i thought 40 ounces that's i'll never drink that much in the gym because at the time i was taking like a 20 ounce shaker cup to the gym and i would drink that and that was enough and now that i'm used to 40 ounces the idea of not having 40 ounces in the gym with me is crazy how long ago was that uh just just less than six months ago and look at how much stronger you are now. Yeah, I know. Simply because 40 ounces.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Water loading at all times. I have put one of these through the ringer now for, I don't know, I suppose a month or so. And durability and everything seems to be on par with similar to what you might expect from a comparable brand, I believe. Yeah, these are way better than the Grassonomics ones. Those mostly hold weed. And the Asonomics ones, which just smell weird.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Yeah. Got that. But in all actuality, if you think you want one of these, I would try to buy it right now. We are going to do our best to keep restocking these as we sell out um but like i said pretty fast yeah and we have six varieties here that we're looking at so we're not carrying a hundred of each in inventory so if you want one i would buy it when you and literally as we're saying this i'm taking three of these so yeah to be safe
Starting point is 00:08:42 we're putting a pretty big dent in them right to be safe if you go on the website and they're in stock, you should just buy all of the ones that are on there. So you don't have to worry about having to mess with it later. Because you're going to buy one and you're going to want the other one. Yeah. They get lonely by themselves. Great gift for kids, too. Kids love these things. Elementary school kids.
Starting point is 00:08:59 They like Miller High Life. Stylized. Stocking stuffer. This would stuff a stocking perfectly. I know that that's a joke but my kid actually does anything that I come home with that has Masonomics on he feels like he should be getting one too. Like, oh did you get one for me?
Starting point is 00:09:16 It's like, well no, not really. We have a hard enough time getting you to put down four ounces of water with dinner. This isn't even practical for you. So no, those are out. And yeah, so hit them up in the store.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I think these will be around. I mean, I think this is something we'll carry and sell for quite a long time. Once we get up to speed and we're able to keep them in stock. But, yeah, so snatch them up while they're available. Perfect for Christmas. Really is. Yeah. And Thanksgiving gifts and mid-December gifts.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Yeah, New Year's gifts. Valentine's Day, second week in January day. Most of the holidays, really it works well pretty well for the uh which one do you guys like better than all right first what's color in general do you guys like better black there's two sides of this the white just stands out like it demands it commands it does because it's just and the white to me is so you don't see that yeah you do see this yes you see large black bottles like that but the white to me is so, you don't see that. Yeah. You do see this. Yes, you see large black bottles like that.
Starting point is 00:10:28 But the white really stands out. But I do also like the fact that the black has a little more of a matte finish to it. Kind of gives it a little more, I don't know, stealthy. Now the white one, though they are vacuum sealed, the white ones will probably keep your water cooler a little bit longer if it's left out in the heat of the day you got a point there science tyler you know i used to be a heating and air conditioning professional there's one thing you know it's how to keep cold it's hot it's thermodynamics and also that my furnace doesn't work right now which i got that going for me um yeah so my favorite uh obviously like like the og one is just in my opinion is just fucking really cool the size of the logo looks really yeah i like
Starting point is 00:11:13 having the logo huge on yeah i really like i think they're all i really like the lift how just how well that turned out and on the black versus the white it's just really hard for me to choose yeah yeah um the huge life i'm fucking in love with this one is fun because it's the first one we've seen i was gonna say i haven't seen that manifested on anything yeah other than upholster i've never actually seen it right so to see it in person it's just exciting for me it kind of makes you want to have it on a shirt when you see it on this yeah i also want that in a banner like a big yeah that'd be cool that would be look at us just brainstorming guys look at this anything else you want us to put our shit on we'll sell you too so you don't all in all you don't have a final answer uh i'm just honestly if they
Starting point is 00:11:58 were all looking me in the face right now it'd be hard but right now the black lift is still my yeah that's my jam that looks really sharp you look pretty cool but the white lift is pretty awesome too so yeah i don't know guys you're gonna have to buy all six yeah that's the only way it's the only way yeah and then you choose which one for that day based on your mood yeah and obviously you guys train at least six days a week so yeah one for each training day you have your squatting bottle and your all right so anyway these are available we'll hustle you again for that stuff later but uh we'll just have the same conversation over we recorded that we're just gonna hit play again in 30 minutes that's actually our app by is our yeah by the way i've been listening
Starting point is 00:12:45 to some podcasts that now are just like really like ramping up their monetization and how long does that get but the fast forward 15 second comes in handy when it's like a three minute but like rogan's has always been long but there's some now where it's and it's just ad copy like he's not really dick but there's somewhere it like 25 minutes. And then the ones that try to make it a little more listenable. So it's like a back and forth. I listen to Burt Kreischer's podcast quite a bit. And there's a couple other ones that now are like, they're trying to make the podcast be what they do for a living
Starting point is 00:13:18 along with their other stuff. And I think Burt's last podcast, there was like 36 minutes of fucking talking about blue apron and zip recruiter and it seems like it's all the same yeah it's all micro is always blue apron yeah yeah and it has to be like these companies have to be making money off of advertising on podcasts like they wouldn't keep me running I would just think they have their marketing dialed in enough that they're not going to keep running ads on these platforms if it's not returning money for them.
Starting point is 00:13:49 And ZipRecruiter, Blue Apron, like – I don't want to hamstring our ability. Like Casper Mattress. Do you hear those ones a lot? There's like four different ones. Yeah, but if any of these guys want to pay us money – And yeah, we'll gladly push your stuff for you. We'll change our tune real quick. But the zipper thing is always weird to me because like i'm like who
Starting point is 00:14:10 that's such a specific business owners or hr are listening like are listening to business owners that at least employ probably 10 to 15 people because if you're less than that like who are actively looking to hire yeah so like or else an hr director of a large company if you're less than that, like... Who are actively looking to hire people. Or else an HR director of a large company. If you have 100,000 listeners every week, like we do, do you have... Like, what percentage of those are people that are making hiring decisions? I mean, obviously, in our audience, it's over half,
Starting point is 00:14:42 but most audiences, I can't imagine, like, oh, yeah, people who listen to your podcast are the decision makers of their company. Well, and even if the way that it works, like, in the company I work for, even if you're ultimately responsible in choosing the person that you're going to hire, you're not in charge of the process of finding the candidates. you're not in charge of the process of finding the candidates. You just get the candidates. They do the groundwork of sifting through some of that.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Okay, this person is definitely not qualified. We're not even going to give you some of that really easy stuff. They just give you the ones that pass those initial qualifiers. Anyway, this is brought to you by ZipperCredit.com. Great product. Great service. Back when I used to work at the restaurant when I was like 19, we'd get applications all the time. And no offense to dishwashers and stuff,
Starting point is 00:15:39 but dishwasher and table busing and kitchen staff, not always the most hireable applicants in the world and definitely not people that are going like next door to the bank and filling out an application as well you know yeah but so we would get some of the craziest fucking applications out there and people that don't understand that you don't have to fill out everything that's on the form. So, like, every job application you're going to have is going to have a list of your name. And then it will say, like, alias or nickname. Which really means, like, if you ever go by another name, like, legally.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Like, you know how some people are, like. Like TJ or something like that. Or, yeah, you know, like, some people have, you know, I know a guy who's, you know, some people are like... Like TJ or something like that. Or yeah, you know, like some people have... You know, I know a guy whose name was Paul, but he goes by Joe because it's his middle name. And that's, you know, because it was... So that's what that's for. Not like your buddies call you T-Bone or...
Starting point is 00:16:39 No joke. We had one, and the guys put on the deal. Everything else kind of look normal and then it was a nickname and he put uh spider on a job application so which begets the question do you refer to him as spider when he follows up like listen mr spider and it was spelled with a Y as well, which is either a red flag or, I mean, is he writing that down often? You know, is that how you sign? Do you sign your name with your nickname that often?
Starting point is 00:17:14 So he got the job. Obviously, yeah. We need to dishwash this. Last name man. Yeah. Change the letter and throw him off my track. But so if you want to try to not hire the spiders of the world, go to ZipRecruiter.com.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Tell them Masonomics sent you, and maybe they'll pay us. You know who does a pretty decent job with their ads, though? I said it a second ago. It was Mike Rowe. When he is delivering an ad, I will listen to it because he's not reading. He never reads copy and even says that. He's just talking about actual personal experiential things. It's almost a part of the podcast.
Starting point is 00:17:51 And usually his pieces are fit into that 30 seconds. Yeah. Meaning, I can go next. I jump ahead 30, and we're good to go. Right. Yeah, Mike Rowe's podcasts are really fucking good. Yes, they are my favorite have you heard it i'm missing the boat here no do you ever remember you might be too
Starting point is 00:18:09 young for this do you remember paul harvey's the rest of the story yeah yeah where it was like he'd tell this cool narrative and it'd be like he'd be like and this guy fucking that was this guy invented corn yeah yeah i tell the story about the guy that invented corn and then you're like yeah and it was fucking teddy roose He'd be like, no shit. And that little boy was John Denver. Yeah. And that's basically the way all of Mike Rose things go. It's this whole deal, and then at the end it's like.
Starting point is 00:18:35 What's the name of the podcast? That was sure. The way I heard it. Yeah. The show for Curious Mind with a short attention span. That's what his show's called? Yeah, because they're about five to ten minutes long. Oh, so when you the first time i found it it was pretty new so there was only maybe like 12 or 13 episodes yeah so i like listened to all of them that's exactly while i was eating one meal
Starting point is 00:18:56 yeah they're good and and you find yourself you're trying to guess you're like yeah yeah it's not always a famous person the catch at the end might be like maybe it's a thing yeah like this person invented this thing yeah like but you're all you're as you're listening you're like oh the nazis you know you're like you know oh they got polio jackson yeah so those are good though really good yeah his ad copy he does a pretty good job i just don't know of a great way to do it and it's interesting because they'll do it in the beginning and i think they do it on purpose so you can skip through it all in one big chunk there's a few because they get paid more money if they do it in the middle and i think you pay to get paid the
Starting point is 00:19:40 least if you do it at the end yeah um but the ones that cut into it in the middle fucking there's another it's a pretty good podcast is greg fitzsimmons podcast but he will actually in post cut it in so he doesn't like interrupt the flow of things yeah but it'll be like you know he'll he'll he'll be carrying on a conversation and then there'll be just a single pause and then he will in post interject and be like, well, let me ask you one more thing. Do you ever have any trouble hiring somebody and you don't even understand it? And you're like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:20:14 That really changed Tom quickly. Zip recruiter. And he bows right back to it. I'm like, fucking got me again. Damn zip recruiter. I don't have anyone to hire. But yeah. What's the meals one again the uh there's blue apron there's another one too isn't there um the mattress one zip recruiter there's a legal zoom.com yeah there's another food one too though besides blue apron i think and i can't
Starting point is 00:20:43 there's some of the meal shipping ones that do it. I'm trying to remember if there's any like supplement stuff that come out there. Some of that stuff always comes and goes because supplement companies like are reputable for six months at a time. Yeah. I've noticed the PowerCast has kicked up the length of their in the middle advertisements too, where it's like five minutes long. Yeah. I'm'm like there's no way i'm listening there was one day i was fast forwarding because my button default is set at 30 seconds and i hit it twice and they were talking i'm like oh i went too far and so i was about to
Starting point is 00:21:15 reach for it to back it up i'm like oh my god they're still talking about it so i hit it again thinking definitely way past and now they were still it was like over three minutes long which just like blew me away that a podcast went from having no advertisements to like 15 seconds to 30 seconds to all of a sudden like multi-minute ones about things that I'm not even sure that they use or have anything to do with. I don't know what to do now. Jesus Christ, guys. Tyler's waiting for something.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I pulled. The limit here is now. Jesus Christ, guys. Tyler's waving something at me. The limit here is two cameras. You bust out camera three. I get pretty nervous with the third camera. Tyler's waving the third camera in our face right now. The microphone. Yeah, it's too much. So there was a few things that come up this week, now that we're 22 minutes into our advertisements for ZipRecruiter.
Starting point is 00:22:11 One of the things we wanted to maybe let's let's start with this one as i saw an article tommy had pointed out to us that they're like raising a bunch of red flags about nose torque in the nfl i had seen it because jake big jake the snake heinrich had had tagged me in that on Twitter, actually. And I was like, don't tag me on Twitter. Like, I don't want to have to open this app. I'm not in college. I don't have time to be on here. Jake, you can tag me on Instagram if there's something. But I had read it, too.
Starting point is 00:22:38 So when you said that, I was like, ah, yeah, that's good. Yeah, so really it was. Did you read it then? I did, yeah. And, like, I don't know what they were so they were also trying to make the claim that like it's ineffective and it's like but for what like yeah i think the so the summary of the article so this the the quick synopsis of the article is that um it's becoming increasingly common it sounds like with uh players on the sidelines and even coaches
Starting point is 00:23:04 and i think even like training pretty much anyone on the sidelines and even coaches and i think even like training pretty much anyone on the sideline of an nfl game to have little ammonia packets just like you would see at a powerlifting meet little ammonia packets and some teams have them all over the place it looks like candy wrappers yeah yeah that's what they said is like it's getting to the point now where when you walk by the bench it looks like a parade went through and there's just candy wrappers everywhere said at the end of the dallas cowboys football game there they counted over 100 used ones on the ground yeah and and so what's going on is like anybody that's done a power lifting meet or just lifted and has nose torque ammonia packets whatever is you know these guys are on the sideline they're probably getting
Starting point is 00:23:40 wore down they just need that little perk to go out and i think most of us could probably relate is they take a little sniff of it they go out there they feel alert they do their thing and now you have people coming in and saying well first of all there's a lot of these things around and then uh scientifically saying these don't do anything the efficacy of it yeah yeah and unproven i feel like there's a lot that plays into that like yeah maybe there's scientifically nothing is like you're not getting stronger or something. But if it feels like it gives you a mental edge, isn't that all you need? My thing is, I don't care who you are.
Starting point is 00:24:13 If you're sitting on the bench between series, changing from offense to defense, and you get tired, and you take a little pop of nose torque, you're going to be more alert when you stand up and walk out onto the field. That's not even fucking subjective. That is a thing that's going to happen for sure. So to say it doesn't work, it's like, well, for what? It's not going to improve their 40-yard dash times, but they're going to not be tired as they're going out to do a thing. They're just going to feel a little more alert. We're talking not sleepy. Because that's the deal is they're gonna not be tired as they're going out to do a thing or like they're just gonna feel a little more alert like if you're talking like not sleepy yeah yeah because that's
Starting point is 00:24:48 the deal is they're just sitting there heavy pads maybe they're not on the field for 15 minutes you know they could literally just be sitting on the bench for that long in between and you can't be constantly quote like warming up throughout the course of an entire nfl game right so like you'll spend three hours you do need to rest. Yeah. And I totally get it. Like, okay, Tom Brady comes out and puts on an eight-minute offensive drive, which eight minutes of the game clock is probably between your TV timeouts, your regular timeouts. You could be a defensive player sitting on the sidelines for 20-plus minutes easy,
Starting point is 00:25:18 and you're not going to be running sprints the whole time on the sidelines. You've got to chill. So, all of a sudden, you go from kind of like this chill mode to like all right kill and get the ball mode yeah it's like you just got it it'd be tough to just flip the switch for four hours like that yeah and so i think this kind of away from the cheerleader yeah all the fans yelling at you whether good or bad all the cameras in your face and to me it makes sense like yeah i just need to do this to just kind of slap me in the face and get me going right and i was waiting in the article for the journalist to be like yeah so in the name of you know fair journalism I tried some but they never they never said anything about
Starting point is 00:25:53 that that's and I feel like that would end the argument of like whoa but they also would probably put the take on it that oh I did it and it just alters your mind so much you know it's what you said too though that that's what, it almost annoyed me as I was reading the article where they're saying how scientists, it's unproven that it does anything. And I'm like, just do it once. And I'm like, there's no arguing it.
Starting point is 00:26:19 It's like, it's not just, it's exactly what you said, but to say it's not working, I don't even understand. Where is that science coming from? Yeah. And what's in just your definition of working? I mean, it's, it's unarguable.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Put it up to your nose and tell me it's not working. Yeah. Does alcohol make you a better dancer? Yes, but they're not, nobody's funding that research. You know what I mean? I can see people not liking it. Yes. Yeah. I get that research. You know what I mean? I can see people not liking it. Yes. Yeah, I get that, too.
Starting point is 00:26:46 And I think their argument in the article was that they're afraid it's going to trickle down to the high school level. Yeah. And, yeah, I'm sure every parent wants to see, like, their kids huffing pneumonia on the side before they go into it. But also, like, let's be real. Like, there's a lot of worse things that those NFL players are probably doing that you don't want trickling down on your kids. probably doing that you don't want trickling out of your kids nose torque is the least of the worries when it comes to the duis drug charges steroids and women beat women abuse yeah i like like i don't think fucking like huffing concussions also and concussions yeah like well that was the one red flag there that they made a point out was it like they used to kind of they used to kind of
Starting point is 00:27:23 use it to mask concussion syndrome yeah which i didn't realize that's why it's banned. It said boxing, and somewhere else didn't it say that? And that actually is sensible. Because if you got your bell rung and you do take a Papa Noce, you're going to be, all right, I'm keyed in for just a moment. Keyed in enough to look a trainer in the eyes, follow a pen, and get the fuck back out on the field. That makes sense to not use it for yeah so to not use it for its intended purpose yeah yes because that's what they talk about too
Starting point is 00:27:52 is that the company says that's not what they make it for you know it's to be used as uh like waking you up from uh unconsciousness yeah yeah but my favorite part of the article they referenced power lifting and they uh named nose torque by brand they did which did both of those nose torque being the massonomics gym go to uh ammonia yeah ammonia they also referenced one uh called wake up motherfucker they did yeah yeah yeah i have uh down in the basement so my crossfit gym is in this hundred and some year old fucking shoe store building downtown you guys know this the audience is not the uh but in the basement there's all this like wacky shit like super creepy stuff too some like there's like maybe a hundred pairs of very well-made leather toddler dress shoes oh
Starting point is 00:28:49 just in a pile like really creepy you think you're opening an online store well no it's creepy in the in the way that like yeah it's just really creepy that you know it's like if you walk down to this dungeon basement and there's just fucking baby shoes that's fucking not something you want to find covered in spider webs and yeah besides that and a uh stack of about 150 old nudie magazines which is for real yeah which is great because maybe some of them are worse something because they probably first edition playboy or something i don't think so but like you should investigate that more tyler they're not they're not mine. Which is funny because that's how everybody stumbles into their first nudie movie. There's just some dusty pile somewhere in a basement or in the woods.
Starting point is 00:29:33 I'm afraid kids these days aren't going to experience that, though, are they? They're going to go straight to some weird shit. If I was in middle school, junior high, and high school and had the internet in its current manifestation it would have been a fucking i would have missed so much school for us it was like a straight up miracle when one day just it's a windy day and a page of one blows into someone's yard it's like dude look what i found in my yard today and it was literally the coolest thing that had happened to you that month yeah yeah like you get a call from a friend like guys, a boob. Calls your mom who then puts you on the phone. Look what's in my yard.
Starting point is 00:30:13 But also though, back to the deal in this basement is it's unfortunate that ammonia does that smelling salts aren't like, know have a shelf life you know finite shelf life because there is about six cases of like 120 bottles of basically nose torque down there all of it's dried up i wonder what it was for what would they have that for i don't know i'm wondering if there's something to do with like you know because they were like actual like cobblers like shoe like if maybe there's something chemically done for the leather or maybe they just what is like every time they made a new pair of shoes they're like all right let's make some shoes all right this is probably gonna sound dumb is ammonia used for cleaning yeah i think that's the primary use yeah yeah i think that's what it is used for yeah
Starting point is 00:31:01 back before when when things needed to smell pleasant after they were cleaned you know you could just clean it and be like oh that smells toxic yeah it's clean yeah there's probably i suppose there's some other industrial uses yeah it used to be i believe it used to also be you know as like a refrigerant among other things but now we just smell it before we lift but and also what the article did not point out is any there was no doctor on there that said this is bad because it'll do this they said it's probably not the best thing because you're smelling cleaning chemicals but they didn't like i would be curious to see if there's some study that shows like it could be damaging your yeah and and here and the thing is like in the grand
Starting point is 00:31:56 scheme of things too like is that more dangerous than let's be honest any time that one of those guys takes a hit gets guys gets a knee injury and they have pain mid-game, they go get a cortisone shot so they don't feel the pain and they can just grind their knee to a fucking pulp to finish the game. I don't think nose torque is near the top of their list of things they should worry about. Maybe stop players from putting guns in their mouths
Starting point is 00:32:24 due to all the head trauma and such right start there worry about the nose torque later it's a starting point yeah yeah i also don't if i was playing football i don't know if i you know they said ezekiel elliott he'd go through eight eight over the course of that game because he'd take one before he goes out for every series that would be quite a bit of nose torquing for me see that seems a little excessive but i also wouldn't want to do it and then be doing anything with which i was breathing really hard yeah it doesn't it doesn't help the airways for anything that's for sure i mean like when i i do feel that my airways open up but i also don't feel like you can take a good breath my heart rate
Starting point is 00:33:01 right doing anything exceptional for very long um there was a uh podcast i listened to they had kind of a stunt that they that they did um where like if they got x amount of uh five star reviews on itunes they were going to do which we're not going to do this contest but you guys should while we're talking about it should definitely be leaving us itunes reviews but they uh that after they got to a certain number they were going to do what's called the nose torque mile which kind of like the beer mile except you gotta take a whiff a nose torque run 400 meters take a whiff a nose torque run 400 meters so you run a mile like that which would not be awesome no no it would be the last thing i would want to do yeah so people do that
Starting point is 00:33:44 with a beer where they chug for three beers have we not talked about this i know i haven't heard of this either oh the beer mile is actually like a real thing there's world records um they get three beers or four do you have to chug a fourth it has to be five percent alcohol i'll run this through because no joke the fucking times like the world record times of this are absolutely bananas. And the people that I've heard that have done it, some people were like college runners and stuff that have even done it, said like you're going to throw up everywhere. Yeah, I can't think of a better way to try to make yourself throw up.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Even to do it in 15 minutes, you're probably going to throw up. But this is crazy. Give me a second just to pull this up um that's me in the in our ears there just to do a beer quarter mile where you chug one beer and run a quarter mile that might make me puke yeah i think anything where you're just chugging a lot of anything and then running like that that's the worst the other thing is these people are the people that are setting these records are really, really, really good runners. I mean, some of the best runners in the world and some of the best beer chuggers in the world at the same time.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Right. Because you still have to be able to slam four beers. You can't take any runner. You guys get this. Okay. The rules are, and I should look up exactly how it goes. I believe you start with a beer and then you run and then a beer and a run instead of beer and a run and then a beer and a run and a run but in so that way you're not
Starting point is 00:35:12 chugging a beer at the very end yeah but they said if you do three two beer you have to drink a fifth beer at the end that's kind of how they they even it out the men's best sanctioned beer miles, like these are the world records here, the men's best is 4 minutes and 33 seconds. Wow. That's insane. Okay, are they shotgunning or chugging or how is this? I think you just chug it.
Starting point is 00:35:38 I believe it has to be in a bottle. Are you going to say in a bong? That's crazy, though, because I was going gonna say eight minutes would be crazy because if you give a minute for the run a minute for the that's what i thought for the run like when you said crazy i was really thinking like in that ballpark maybe seven under eight would be crazy to me i mean under 20 would be crazy also i also believe the women's time i couldn't can't find out here quickly but the women's time is like also like four and a half minutes it's fucking super crazy so here we go rules each competitor drinks four
Starting point is 00:36:11 cans of beer runs four laps ideally on a track start with a beer then lap beer lap i must be consumed before the lap has begun within a transition area so there's a 10 meter zone right before the start and finish so that area is your transition area so just 10 yards short of your finish get your beer chug it before you can leave that space um they've got to be drinking the beer in like 10 seconds each time though women women also drink four beers in four laps the past rule used to be that women were only required to drink three beers but let's be honest you want a level playing field, play the game. So they must drink, oh, it's canned beer, 12-ounce cans.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Bottles may be substituted as long as they are 12-ounce. No specialized cans or bottles. No super mega mouth cans or wide mouth bottles. You can't put the thing on top of your can no beer cans must not be tampered with in any manner no shotgunning or puncturing the can except for opening at the tab at the top same applies with bottles no straws or other aids beer must be a minimum of five percent alcohol hard ciders and lemonades will not suffice beer must be fermented and brewed from
Starting point is 00:37:26 malt cereal grains there's hops oh they're detailed on the beer can must not cannot be open until the competitor enters the transition zone so that's another thing is it's going to be as carbonated as it possibly can be at that point yep competitors who vomit before they finish the race must complete one penalty lap at the end of the race note vomiting more than once during the race still requires only one penalty lap at the end it is strongly recommended when attempting official records to tip the empty beer can or bottle over your head at the end of a chug to verify an empty vessel i just assumed every person puked during this, so the fact that they're not pukey. I think most of the people. But in the lead, they're not.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Oh, for sure they're not. But I still think the largest percentage of people that do this throw up, for sure. I might throw up just running a mile. So beer mile. Anyway, so those guys did it with nose torque. Or a lot of people might just throw up chugging four beers. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:24 A lot of people chugging four beers in four minutes would do that to them, too. Yeah, I mean, those people are pussies. Yeah, we're not friends with those people. They're not going to hang. Let's see if I can find. Some guys that can drink but not run. Yes. Yeah, we're like, yeah, can you drink but not run?
Starting point is 00:38:41 Come to Massanoi. Oh, there's just so much information here. But that's the Beer Mile. So look into it. Actually, beermile.com is a tremendous resource. We need to figure out the lifting equivalent of that. You know, get everyone involved. Okay, maybe I was wrong in reading this.
Starting point is 00:38:59 So still the men's world record is four and a half minutes. The women's Beer Mile record is six minutes. Oh, well. Come to me when you've done something. Some of these, though, you're looking at the beer. Does it say what beer they're drinking? This one. Sometimes they list it.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Sometimes they don't. This woman did it in six minutes, 17 seconds, drinking Fat Tire. Now, I can drink the shit out of some fat tire on my roof in the summer and i can put down a six pack on my roof but even that's gonna take me a half hour and you're not running around your roof when you're doing no i'm just curious for like the person in like the 300th spot that has four loco behind their name the old four local look at the balls this is a gal here fucking elizabeth lassiter i'm in love seven minutes seven seconds drinking natty ice nice it's a classic the man there is uh yeah they do list they do list the beers on a lot of these which is kind
Starting point is 00:40:00 of interesting there's some heinekens on here i want to see them i want to see the men's and see what uh what them guys are drinking you'd think you'd want to just go for the lightest thing that has five that has yeah so this person probably i think this is probably the best bud light platinum oh yeah um that's actually pretty common on here and then um what is bud light amsterdam it's. They're in the... I mean, I know what it... The blue. It's just like Bud Light. It tastes just like Bud Light.
Starting point is 00:40:29 That's like 5.5% I think. Yeah, it's like 6% alcohol or something like that. But it tastes just like Bud Light. So if you want Bud Light that you could actually maybe get a buzz on, that's the way to go. A lot of Amsterdam Blonde on this. Like, that must be the... I'm not familiar with that one.
Starting point is 00:40:45 It must be nice and light, but have the alcohol content. But I'm not seeing anything very... It's like Amsterdam blonde and Bud Light Platinum, all at the top 40. Do you think the running accelerates the buzz in some way? I'm certain. I'm sure the fatigue does. You cross the line, and five minutes later, you're just blacked out. One of my favorite...
Starting point is 00:41:04 I mean, it's definitely not good for your health, I'm sure, but one of my favorite things, you do a really hard workout, some strength work and then some intense conditioning, and then chill out and drink a six-pack fast. You know what I mean? That's a good way to wind down your day. Or start your day. Or start your day. Or start your day if you work out at 5 a.m.
Starting point is 00:41:29 But, yeah, that's the beer mile. But, yeah, nose torque mile we won't be doing anytime soon. I can't imagine that the NFL is going to do away with nose torque, though. No. I mean, they were talking about that, though. That's weird. Speaking of nose torque, though, we are going to fill Tommy in because he's the only one that hasn't seen it. So we're going to try and do no spoilers, but there's totally, you know the results because it'll happen.
Starting point is 00:41:55 But the Strongman documentary called Born Strong is out. Do you know who made it, even? I'm not sure. And where is this available? It is on, you can get it on iTunesunes you can get it on google play um amazon amazon is where i'm pretty much everywhere everywhere that you pay you're gonna have to pay for it yeah maybe you can i suppose that you can somehow i don't know but it's not bad i think it's like i think it's like 13 bucks yeah to buy yeah and i think i rented it for four dollars off of Amazon Prime. Would you buy it?
Starting point is 00:42:26 Probably not, I guess. I'm guessing maybe at some point in time it'll be on Netflix. Yeah. You're asking if I would watch it again, definitely. Tanner is cheap, you guys. I don't know if you know this.
Starting point is 00:42:41 I will not spend another $6 no joke the four dollar thing was even like uh because i've rarely ever purchased anything that i watched from amazon or anywhere like that but this was an exception to the rule where i was like okay i didn't have to think long and hard does it give you the option for standard def or high def does and did you go standard no i think we did do high def because you can't it was the dollar standard def anymore for people in the stone age what am i a homeless person but i don't know who made it or produced it or it was pretty well made oh yeah so who's it about
Starting point is 00:43:18 so it goes through the 2000 people you would want it to be about the 2016 arnold um so that was the year when we missed the one i was oh you were there yeah i was there for that one that's right pre-massanomics yeah um did you watch any of the events yeah which events did you i saw the part of the deadlift i saw the um one-armed dumbbell and the you didn't watch you didn't watch the frame carry, I'm sure, because that was the main event. Yeah, we didn't see that one. And I missed the bale yoke as well, which is not that exciting at the Arnold. It's heavy, but they move at 15 feet.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Not the most dynamic thing you'll see. It's an impressive feat of strength, but they're just moving at 15 feet. There's just not a lot to watch there. But anyway, it was really well made. It covers, but it follows basically just in these four parts, basically. It gives a full background, talks about kind of their training and a good probably like 15, 20 minutes on each one.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Yeah, it goes through the four competitors, and then the wrap-up is the Arnold. Yep. So who's the four competitors? So Zydrunas, Eddie Hall, Brian Shaw, and Halfthor. So it's about four guys you want to be about. It's the shit you want to see. And they get into Eddie Hall's weight
Starting point is 00:44:33 and how he's got to push his weight up higher because those guys are naturally so much bigger than he is. How he's unhealthy, how he's worried about it. How he's pretty sure that he can't. Like he talks about that even? Oh, yeah. He even says, and his doctor says, yeah how he's worried about it how he's pretty sure that he talks about that even yeah he even says and his doctor says like yeah i mean you're not going to live another 10 years walking around at this weight and his wife is basically like in tears wanting him to quit soon because like
Starting point is 00:44:55 not wanting him to die yeah and it is even though that covers the arnold from a year and a half ago it is current in that even after that all wraps up, it goes back into, you know, Zydrunas's injury for before 2017. And then now Zydrunas is back and healthy and should be ready to go. And then Eddie Hall winning worlds and then retiring after and Eddie Hall's 500 kilo deadlift.
Starting point is 00:45:20 And then Brian. So like it is as current as you can be and it's fucking good like i got done watching it and i was like i was like i'm gonna go lift yeah so we kind of eddie's the first one they follow and i think we touched on the high points of of him of course they cover training a little bit for everyone but that was kind of eddie's thing is like his health uh longevity to be able to do it and he kind of touched on those things in Eddie, what was it, Eddie Starman? Yeah, that was just like, my thing is that was just like two or three, two and a half years old.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Old. Yeah, yeah. Which this being more current. Is a little more relevant. It holds up better. If you know nothing about the sport, you could still like this, and then that wouldn't matter to you. But if you follow it a little bit, then the currentness or lack thereof can be annoying even and while i if you haven't
Starting point is 00:46:09 watched eddie hall strongman is that still on netflix i think so i watched it not too long ago like one it's so good but it is dated yeah relative you know because he looks different he is smaller yeah there's clips too that they pulled directly from from that like a lot of eddie's training i watched exactly on eddie eddie so the second too that they pulled directly from from that like a lot of eddie's training i watched exactly on eddie eddie so the second one that they follow then oh another thing that interesting about eddie they that they kind of cover is kind of how much he looks up to brian shaw almost like he he likes brian shaw and i like uh uh he calls brian on the phone and eddie it kind of sounds like he's a dick to him but it's
Starting point is 00:46:47 obviously a little bit ingested he always is like hey how you doing you fat fuck that's how he answers the phone and then they're talking about weight and Eddie's like it looks like you gained 25 pounds just in that neck roll on the back of your head it's like
Starting point is 00:47:02 someone took a big ol' sesame roll and just slapped it on the back of your head. It looked like someone took a big old sesame roll and just slapped it on the back of your head. So who was the second one that they highlighted after Eddie? Then it was Thor. Thor. Yep. And Thor, they get into his food stuff a little bit too. And probably my favorite line of the whole thing was
Starting point is 00:47:19 they talk about how much he has to eat, and he keeps eating. He's like, that's the hard part is you force feed. You wake up, you force feed. You wake up, you force feed. You do this, you force feed. You're grazing all day. And he said, you'll eat whatever it takes. He said, if eating shit made you stronger, I'd probably do it.
Starting point is 00:47:34 And he's like, it's just, it is what it is. And he said, that's the part that separates us. Remember, he's like, we, like, if you can't, if you don't like to eat, this is not the sport for you. Or if you can't bring yourself to do it, it's not going to work. Those are the main four guys they follow. And then they have interjections from Mark Henry, Arnold, the British announcer guy that always announces. And he announced to Arnold, and I'm so jealous because he's awesome.
Starting point is 00:48:03 That year he did? In 16. That year he did? In 16. That year he did, yeah. Instead of Mark Henry. Yeah, yeah. But I think Mark Henry was there. I think that guy was the one moving the events, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:14 So he was the hype man. He's awesome. And he's really good at getting into it. They still had Kaz and Mark Henry there, I believe. But if I remember right, but that guy was the hype man. I'm pretty sure because of his association with eddie hall that's why he wasn't there that he'll never be at the arnold right that's why that's why it wasn't there last year because and then after my opinion after they
Starting point is 00:48:33 motherfucked him after the deadlift yeah i don't think him nor eddie will have anything to do with i agree i think he's pretty tight with eddie but like hearing him announce when eddie's about ready to come up for world record death for deadlift it's like, from Stoke-on-Trent. He goes through this whole thing. He's good. He's really good. It's missing without him. He's more that Bruce Buffer type versus your two guys.
Starting point is 00:48:55 They need a hype man. Yeah, for sure. Flava Flav. Yeah, boy! With Thor, they talked quite a bit about his Game of Thrones role. And it was fun. They showed him sitting around with his family and friends watching the episodes of Game of Thrones and what that's like for him. Really funny vodka commercial.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Like, for his vodka that he sells. He's always pushing his vodka. I got vodka on Instagram. I didn't really know what they were doing. When they were showing that commercial, I was like, oh, this is going to suck. It was funny. That was a really good commercial. Obviously, we're all super
Starting point is 00:49:37 Halfthor fanboys, but his branding, his apparel and stuff, to me leaves totally something to be desired. So a lot of the stuff that he puts his name on, I'm just like, ugh. You know what I mean? The look isn't that great. It's not very...
Starting point is 00:49:53 It's the fact that it's him is what's selling it. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, man, it could be cooler and be you and be awesome. But the vodka is well done. It was funny. It was really well done. I liked also, I remember they have that joke commercial, the fuzzy bubbles. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:11 The water one or whatever. That was a good deal, too. They highlighted the Iceland thing, the tradition of strong men in Iceland, and talked about the tattoo on his leg that says, if you don't do deadlift, to live if you don't do deadlift or yeah you no reason to live if you don't do deadlift isn't that uh paul john paul sigmundson they showed it when he yelled it and there's like three of his other um gym like training partners have the same tattoo the guy that's in every uh of thor's lifting videos that says yes thor yes thor he's he's and he's like
Starting point is 00:50:43 he's on stage with thor at the arnold and everything there too he he has that same tattoo in the same spot you got a really good picture of that tattoo yes you did yeah yeah what did it smell like like nose yeah um and then i believe it was brian was shot yeah and they went everything I mean now we know kind of everything about Brian Shaw
Starting point is 00:51:08 kind of the way he trains very cerebral works hard it's all mathematical you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:51:12 everything is very scientific and spelled out he really wants to win and he doesn't want to just win and he's right they do kind of
Starting point is 00:51:20 get into that a little bit where like his expectation is to win so like if he gets, if he does not win, that is not good. And so it's not the second place is okay.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Like, so he is his, I think his wife even said that like, he'll be happy if he wins, but like, that's what he came here to do. So like, he's not going to be that stoked about it,
Starting point is 00:51:40 even though, you know, which is crazy, but yeah. And so not to shorten the shaw thing but that is everything we've shaw is probably the one that we hear the most real information from eddie hall you get eddie hall the character and half thor you get whatever they kind of put out yeah with him you know everything's brand specific with half thor yeah but like with brian shaw you get
Starting point is 00:52:03 we got a lot of information already out there and it's all kind of along those lines but then they went into zadrunas which is my favorite and i'll say this is the one that i would be the most interested in because first of all he's been around so long yeah and he just seems like he's just like training in the shadows or he has some ancient secret trains in the goddamn okay so there's this old outdoor stadium that apparently there was that's where the first lithuania lithuanian strongest man competition was ever held and from what i can tell is totally decrepit right like that's not still functional and that's where he has all of this stuff under the bleachers in this cold no fucking hardly any lights like just but there he is fucking just lumbering he likes to train by himself because uh the weights feel heavier when you train by
Starting point is 00:52:53 yourself and then when he gets when he gets on the big stage he's got that he's always stronger when he competes because he's he said yeah he said he trains by himself because it's harder yeah yeah he said you get there you because it's harder. Yeah, yeah. He said you get there, you got a crowd yelling at people, and you hype it up. That makes it way easier. So he's like, train in the hardest conditions you possibly can train. But 20-plus years in that game for Zydrunas.
Starting point is 00:53:15 He won his first Arnold in 2003. Okay. His first year, and he's won eight Arnolds. Yeah, and he's been doing World's Strongest Man since. Was it like 98? I just saw on instagram they had a video of him doing so when he dropped the stone on him and he gets up and keeps going stone dropped like on together yeah and it fell onto like his sternum and he gets up and keeps trying and it's like he looks so young but i think that was 98 wasn't He looked like a, he just looked kind of like a fat kid then.
Starting point is 00:53:47 So he won four World's Strongest Man titles, but the thing about that is for a while, at a point in time, Wasn't it split? IFSA and World's Strongest Man were the two, so there's, the best guys were doing both, and he won two of those also. So it's debatable like if they would have been together.
Starting point is 00:54:03 So he has four Strongest Man and two of the IFSA titles. The other thing that was cool was he starts listing. And then I'm going to make up the numbers. Seven-time Europe's Strongest Man. 15-time Lithuania's Strongest Man. Just listing off all this. His accomplishments. And all I could think was, this guy's going to have a lot of trophies.
Starting point is 00:54:24 And remember, what's the quote's gonna have a lot of trophies and what remember what's the quote oh it's like i have a very big house ryan does it really good very big house for all my trophies i have very big house i guess he's like a city councilman yeah he's a politician yeah he he owns uh like four or five club fitness gyms uh like so that would make sense why you always see training videos of him in places like that. That's the ones that he owns. That's why he trains in a place like that. Yeah, because he owns those places. He seems very intelligent, I would say.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Yeah. Knows what he's doing. I think he is like Brian Shaw level smart. You know, Shaw is really, really bright. Right. I think Zydrunas is right up there. And I would guess in Lithuania, Z is very popular. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Like... You would assume. I think that's a country that probably... Also, they're probably really jealous of all the food he gets to eat. You know, because he was coming up in an era with which there was bread lines and like... Yep. So... But yeah, the Zydrunas part was like...
Starting point is 00:55:24 Was the one I was looking forward to seeing the most of well and at the beginning of it that's what they talked about is until he was 15 they were occupied by uh communist russia and he said you couldn't there nobody could work out or do anything like that so they said when that changed like when he was 15 years old he got that's when he got to start working out and training because before that you like weren't he wasn't allowed to do that yeah so that's kind of a crazy right dynamic to think about is that he you know he had so much larger hurdles than what someone like from america might have with getting into a sport like deciding what gymiding what gym they want to go to.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Yeah, right. Yeah, what of the 11 gyms within a mile of their house they have. What so, who, maybe your opinion changed while watching it, or maybe it didn't, but who of the four is your favorite?
Starting point is 00:56:19 Who do you like the best out of the four of them? After that, the way it was presented there was Zydrunas. Yeah. Still. He was my favorite, and after that, he the way it was presented there was zadrunas yeah still he he was my favorite and after that he's like far and above my favorite the only thing that holds me back is sometimes i think i should cheer more for brian shaw because he is actually american yeah yeah and none of the other guys are american there's nothing not likable about brian shaw but what it
Starting point is 00:56:39 is is brian shaw is like he's like the new england page well yeah i think it's like he's expected to win so it's like if he wins it's like yeah he's really good but it's like he's like the New England Patriots. Well yeah I think it's like he's expected to win so it's like if he wins it's like yeah he's really good but it's like that's kind of what was supposed to happen so it's like
Starting point is 00:56:49 but Z's won more than him. Yes. But at this point it's like he's been around so long like why are you still good? Brian Shaw even said the same thing
Starting point is 00:56:57 he said Z has spanned more than two generations of this sport like and has fucking dominated both of them yeah really like like crushed and i think this is on the power cast they were talking about zadrunas and he said that he had um shaw was talking about zadrunas and he said that um the thing was is in the now
Starting point is 00:57:19 if you want to be the world's strongest man you you can look at it and go, Oh, nevermind. You know what I mean? Like 1600 pound, that's not a 450 pound fucking log press for reps. You know, just thought you, if you don't deadlift a thousand pounds, you're not even in going to be in the top five. So like,
Starting point is 00:57:37 where do you start? Whereas, and so a lot of, a lot of people now have a really, they try to rush to get to that point too fast. They get hurt. It's just a meat grinder. And he said, but what Zydrunas was able to do was he grew with the sport.
Starting point is 00:57:53 So the sport was so young when he started that then he was able to, the weights were more respectable. And he was almost one of the people that as he got better, the weights had to get heavier. Like he grew the sport and the sport grew with him to where he was just as he got stronger they had to do something right you know and this is another fun one too is i believe god i have to go back and look but on wikipedia it says like the 98 ipf world classics brad gillingham first is adruna savickas second which is crazy to think like yeah he's been around that long yeah the other cool thing that it was arnold that was talking about it during this during that show was he said you know if you're like one of the best soccer players in the world and you walk up to somebody on the street and they don't they may recognize you may not like
Starting point is 00:58:41 your skill your hard work, it's not there. Like, someone has to give you a ball, and you've got to kick it around and show it off. And then people are like, oh, you're good at that. And you're pretty good at that. But when Brian Shaw or Zydrunas or Hafthor or Eddie Hall walks into the room and shakes your hand, you go, oh. Yeah. That's one of the strongest people in the world. Like, they themselves are the showcase of the sport.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Like, they are what their talent is. You know, it's crazy. Yeah. Also, Arnold doesn't know the difference between powerlifting and strongman. No. Did he keep mixing them interchangeably? He used the same terminology to describe them the whole time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Whatever. English is hard. And of all the people they interviewed and all the people interjecting it's funny i i think out of the four of those guys z is probably the least popular in like media yeah generally generally but almost everyone on that show referred to him at one point or another as the strongest strength athlete to have ever lived. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you know.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Universally. Yeah. Brian Shaw did. Yeah. Everyone. Because Brian Shaw hopes to have that title someday. Yeah. But like, yeah, he said, everybody basically says, everyone who talked about Z was like,
Starting point is 00:59:57 that's the strongest man who's ever walked the earth. Yeah. Which is crazy. Yeah. You might, if you've just looked at the four of them in a lineup you might pick him you know a lot of people would pick him fourth just out of the eye test yeah but uh yeah it was uh pretty cool it'll be interesting to see him this year it's also sucks because i still really was really hoping we get to see eddie because that lineup is so good yeah the four of those guys for them that's a good lineup but but imagine the arnold again like it was last
Starting point is 01:00:32 year if we had um you know if there was at least as a drunas there how much that'll make a lot that'll be a lot cooler you know and there's a few guys that are coming up quite a bit from last year too you know like martinez is yes did really really well world um i still keep waiting for that uh matthias the kesla kill kill kill kowski or whatever yeah he's a fucking hell of a presser he just needs to get he's so tall he just needs to keep getting thicker dimitar dimitar jerry pritchett jerry pritchett's legit he's not far out of the mix either so but there's a still is a big difference between the top two and three yeah and the middle of the pack yeah it'll be really exciting to see z this year i hope i really hope there's nothing that
Starting point is 01:01:16 hinders either of those three because that was like through two weeks or three weeks before wasn't it like that was probably about his last heavy training session I'm sure. I had to have been. So hopefully Z comes in healthy and we can see him at the very least who knows how many more years you're
Starting point is 01:01:30 going to get to see him compete. The movie does culminate with the end of the Arnold but if you don't know how 2016 Arnold ended I won't even
Starting point is 01:01:39 mention it here but it's a really good ending like the way it played out and who won didn't win if you don't know i would say don't look it up just watch the movie and off the top of my head yeah i'm not sure i know who actually right now you're so you'll watch the movie and it is exciting to the very end it's it'll be good so yeah born strong on uh itunes Yeah, Born Strong on iTunes, Amazon, and Google. Everywhere you pay for movies.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Blockbuster? Now that I pay for movies now. I did the bit for the longest time where I would just go and torrent them and watch them. Is that the torrent? Yeah, but I still am a firm believer in this because that was easier. It was kind of easy. But now that process is a bit of a pain in the ass and they've done a really good job now with like Chromecast and being able to like throw the image or whatever the show you're watching from your phone directly to your TV.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Yeah. If they, I always said like, they just need to make it easier for me to spend money with them and I'll do it then. And in this case specifically, I saw on Facebook a review about this. I pulled it up, and I was like, okay, I'll just buy it. And I pushed one more button, and it was on my TV. And that's the reason I spent $13, $14 instead of going downstairs because that's the deal.
Starting point is 01:03:04 It's a torrent. It takes a little bit of shit. You go downstairs, got to fucking download it, send it to my phone or try to do it directly on my phone and who knows what all is going on with that. Now that they made it easier, now I tend to pay for fucking movies a lot more.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Yeah, which is the way it should be. We're in the future, people. But we like to give away free podcasts so in return, maybe y'all should buy some shit. Have you heard about these double-walled mugs? Vacuum sealed even. Engraved with freaking laser beams. These Flex Flasks, also in the Masanomics OG logo.
Starting point is 01:03:39 No, we won't do it all over again. It's been another 20 minutes right now. But they're great. We did have a review of the podcast coming in here and uh kind of forgot about those things title of this uh it is five out of five stars title worst bowling industry management and cuts off their industry management and technology podcast out there i was told massonomics was hands down the best bowling industry management and technology podcast out there i listened to 19 episodes and didn't hear I was told Massonomics was hands down the best bowling,
Starting point is 01:04:07 industry management, and technology podcast out there. I listened to 19 episodes and didn't hear bowling mentioned a single time. Instead, I only heard great interviews and fantastic discussions on a wide range of topics related to the various sports related to picking up heavy stuff. From Ryan Mercer. I'll be damned. We're sorry we let you down, Ryan. But it looks like you found the silver lining in this.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Are we going to have to branch out? So Ryan's a supporter of the podcast. He purchased a shirt then also. And he's commented on a few articles and such since then. Props, Ryan. The world needs more Ryan. So he follows us on Instagram. He kind of did what you all need to do.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Guys, get with the program. So you follow us on Instagram. He kind of did what you all need to do. Guys, get with the program. So you follow us on Instagram. You leave a review. You buy a shirt. And then, look, we talk about you. Tell all your friends. We're going to tell you guys, listen, I don't know if you guys know this Ryan Mercer. He's a good guy.
Starting point is 01:04:59 He's a good guy. He's handsome. He's strong, too. He picks up heavy stuff himself. Yeah, I heard he's closing in on, like wrong too he picks up heavy stuff himself yeah i heard he's closing in on like 800 pound deadlift or something if ryan is single ladies hit him up if he's not stay the fuck away yeah and depending on what him and his wife are into though yeah i guess i guess maybe hit him up and maybe he'll sort it out for you so thanks ryan yeah so uh um we've got
Starting point is 01:05:23 uh let's do the final rundown here. Guys, go to massnomics.com. They're going to find all the sweet new stuff, like the Flex Flash. Tanner will pop one open for you here. And we also have hats, kind of like the one Tanner's wearing, but not necessarily similar-ish. Is that a custom? This is custom colors.
Starting point is 01:05:41 That's a custom one. Tommy here is rocking the weekend warrior we do sell that one we sell the shit out of that most popular you need one or two um also there you're gonna find our articles all the good stuff what's what was our most recent article we had a uh article on just generally being large yes and then no matter how whatever it is being huge is probably not the best thing for your health. Thanks a lot for bumming us all out. Thanks, Shams, for dissing.
Starting point is 01:06:09 My question is, it's always the smallest guy in the group that writes that article. I would not be the one that writes that article. So I'm going to come back and write an article about how being small sucks to you, Shams. How it's bad for your health yeah you're gonna get eaten prior to that he had another article about uh three myths of testosterone that was really good too and it goes pretty in depth too so if you have any questions about you know especially some of the like the myths about like oh you eat this food's gonna increase your testosterone and find out the why's and the what's and why that works and why that doesn't work.
Starting point is 01:06:46 And the last one, one previous article before that was our RhinoFlex band bell bar review. And just great bar. I see more and more people using that in the gym all the time. And more and more people comment to me about how they've been using that more and really liking it. You know, I've been having to migrate down to Massanomics to train to eliminate distractions from my gym to get down and get work in, and I have seen that bar get used literally every time I'm there. It is. It'll get to the point where we need to get another one of those
Starting point is 01:07:14 because there's always someone using it now. Or upgrade to the HD. HD, heavy duty. This one holds up to 100 pounds. The HD holds up to 400. 400, yeah, sorry. I was about to say, I think I fucked up then. I mean, for me, it only holds 100.
Starting point is 01:07:31 That's why I can't go heavier. The HD holds up to 600. And does it have knurling too? Yeah, it has some knurling. I don't know how that works exactly, but it does. And then the white Rhino holds up to 1,000. And it doesn't even begin to work until you load at least 400 on it jesus yeah so not a huge market for that one i would assume but if you squat a thousand pounds maybe you want the white rhino yeah why not these these stand efforting white
Starting point is 01:07:57 rhino edition um what else here so let's see facebook make sure you follow or like us on facebook we've got email us if you have any official business you want sorted out interview requests sponsorship stuff you want to send us money t-shirts you want us to review some equipment email us at get big at massonomics.com or you can also hit us up, just slide into the DMs and Instagram. Not my DMs, Tanner's. My DMs are strictly for unofficial business and memes. But I think, is that about everything? Yeah, huge spike in the listenership this month. So if you're new to listening, spread the word.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Maybe you can tell someone about it and let's keep that going. Yeah, definitely tell somebody. It's you guys telling other people that is what's made this kind of work because God knows we haven't figured out how to do it. No. No. Quite honestly, we had a discussion about it this week of why did it grow this month. We don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:59 I think it's you guys that are doing it. Probably. You're miracle workers out there. But anyway, thanks a lot for listening, everybody. I'm Tyler. You can follow me on Instagram at Tyler F. and Stone. That's Tyler E-F-F-I-N Stone. Tommy?
Starting point is 01:09:13 You can find me at Tomahawk underscore D. And Tanner? The Masonomics Instagram account at Masonomics. Righteous. All right. Well, that'll do it for us today. Thanks for listening. We'll talk to you next week.
Starting point is 01:09:23 And stay strong. See ya. See ya. You just talk to you next week. See you. that sweet Masanamics gear. From your friends at Masanamics Studio, home of the world's strongest podcast, stay strong.

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