Massenomics Podcast - Ep.121: Massenomics Q&A

Episode Date: July 30, 2018

This week the fellas answer YOUR questions. Obviously, this is an extremely serious and insightful conversation in which we deliver the groundbreaking info that our listeners have come to demand from such a scientific podcast as this.

M-M-M-M-M-M-M-Massanomics Welcome to Massanomics, the world's strongest podcast. Find us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at Massanomics. Make sure you go visit massanomics.com. There you'll find the rest of our powerful content. While you're there, check out our store and buy yourself some of that sweet Massanomics gear. and buy yourself some of that sweet Mastodonics gear. Alright, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this week's episode of the Mastodonics Podcast.

I'm Tyler, over here is Tommy. What's up? And over there in the red, especially if you're listening, is Tanner. You can hear it in his voice. You can hear the redness. Red. You can hear it in his voice. You can hear the redness. Well, this week we want to open with a little bit of Q&A. Last week we ran through the Strongman draft for the Strongman showdown.

I'm sure some trash talk for that's going to come up today. We opened up the Q&A to the public about an hour ago, and the shit talking is rolling in deep. So I think we'll just move on down the line tanner you want to see what we got here sure and how did you phrase the asking for the questions i said uh comment with questions first to answer on this episode just please try to keep it the questions nc17 uh real straightforward okay i got you. Like nothing. Is that correct? I couldn't remember. Is it like NR17? No, it's NC.

Is that still a thing though actually? I think so because I think there's actually like. I couldn't remember when I did it. I feel like with Netflix and things like that disappeared. I don't know. Or what about MA? That's TV ratings. So TV ratings is a different thing.

I think NC17 is still a thing because like, yeah, I'm pretty sure it's still a thing. You just don't ever see it. Yeah, because like when a movie would, because that would, yeah, it's like, yeah, that would be the end of any blockbuster success right there, wouldn't it? Yeah. Because it basically just wouldn't be in theater. Wasn't Freddy Got Fingered an NC-17 movie? That's a good question.

What it is. Is NC-17 the worst? I think that's technically the worst, which is dumb because isn't actually R, if you read, doesn't say audiences under 18? Well, I believe audiences under 18, you have to be in the presence of an adult. But I think if NC-17 is like if you're 17 or under, no bueno. Ah, gotcha. Let's see here.

Freddy got fingered. NC-17. Like Netflix for sure had to have addressed a lot of this problem by just having – they don't i'm actually trying to think now they don't have any ratings on them i don't think do they does it say adult content it definitely there's not like something before you start the yeah like my brain is just cannot even picture that right now it's going right past it yeah well for me like the only a rating concerns me not at all unless it's like i can't take my kid to this? And that actually only factors, like if it's a movie the kid,

my kid doesn't want to see R-rated movies. Yeah. But I want to watch a movie and I have to be like, can I make him watch this? How many things am I going to have to explain once this movie is done? Yeah, right? Or is there, it's kind of like during a, if you're watching a movie with your parents and then there's this like,

this random like nine minute long sex scene in the middle of it you're like and you want to be like nice but you can't we're just gonna fucking grip this one oh where was it here here we go freddy got fingered received an r rating but that was following requested cuts to tone it down from an nc-17 rating man a rating with a rating a rating with which tom green described as nc-17 is like porn but with murder as an extra on the dvd he included a version that he edited to secure a pg rating the pg rated cut of freddie got fingered is a mere three minutes long with comedic voiceover, which is pretty fucking funny. Yeah. Yep.

Freddy Got Fingered coming back again to the podcast. Yeah. It's probably... I like that we talked about Freddy Got Fingered. I think it's probably our podcast's official film. And the fact that I still haven't seen it since I was probably in eighth grade actually makes me really want to watch it now. It's worth watching.

Is it still the case that... Oh, I guess nobody buys DVDs, correct is that the case correct yeah but like if you did if you're not 18 don't you have to like show an id to buy an r-rated movie even i think so they even bother yeah at this point you really want to dvd that buying a movie just i did watch some kids get yanked out of fucking out of a movie though uh in the movie theater because they they tried to buy tickets to deadpool too and then they were like not allowed to because they weren't old enough so then and our movie theaters run a little questionably anyways so they just kind of like wandered in bought some popcorn and then walked into the theater anyways but then like they're like people running around there with flashlights and shit and

found the kids and fucking drug them out really yeah apparently not that big of a deal for me and it seems like i wouldn't have a conversation with a 16 year old over that hey man your life like well yeah whatever yeah i just sold him the tickets yeah but be like no but you could pay me like directly for this and you can get so the q a here yeah favorite scene freddie got fingered no um i would say where the sausages are all hanging like uh man the sauce yeah dad would you like some sausages yeah playing the piano that That's probably my favorite or the one where he's making fun of his brother

because he got a LeBaron. Yeah, I don't see two LeBarons. Yeah, I don't see two LeBarons, Freddy. I don't see two LeBarons. Where's your LeBaron? Can we go through all the good scenes? I mean, I think we got most of them covered. The backwards man.

Backwards man's good. Backwards man is good. Most of that movie is not watchable, though. There's a lot of it where it's just Tom Green being Tom Green. That's shocking. A lot of it, too. And what's so funny is it's like if you're in fourth grade and you're trying to think of something that's really dirty, that's probably what you'd come up with. It's like childish humor.

Chew on the guts. Then he's going to lick the broken leg. So thanks for the guy that asked us about, uh, our favorite. Freddie got fans. An episode of South park. They scan your driver's license.

Yeah. Uh, this is from Keith, Keith stone Waldman. Approximately how much weight will the lift shorts add to my squat? Hmm. Well, all of it. Yeah.

I mean, that was actually a pretty good answer. Yeah, that's from Open Powerlifting. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How much will it add, though? I mean, I believe I saw an image that said you can fit a lot of PRs in them. That's true. Into these.

I thought it said you could fit a lot of P in them. And I was testing it. You could probably do that, too that you actually can fit an awful lot of p they hold they hold a lot for mesh shorts it was really surprising i i'm sure it won't make you squat less couldn't no not possible lift shorts they're like kind of your squat they're kind of between it won't make your squat worse than it is on the scale they're kind of between. It won't make your squat worse than it is. On the scale, they're kind of between shorts and supportive briefs. They fall somewhere in the middle there. It's not full single ply, but it's not raw. But, I mean, it might be doing something for you.

Big Brad, Brad Neitzel, Brad Neitzel 88 on Instagram said. Oh, is that Brad Knight Moose? Yes, Brad Knight Moose. Brad Knight Moose, Neitzel, yes. Said, what is the correct deadlift to Atlas stone loading ratio? Asked for a friend. Okay. Should we get the adding machine out here?

Yeah. So he's saying, what is he saying? Percentage of your deadlift. Like if your deadlift is 200 pounds. How much stone should you be able to pick? So does 50% make sense? Is it more? I think your stone should you be able to pick? So does 50% make sense? Is it over or less than 50%? I think your stone should be over 50%.

Over 50%. I can speak only from my experience, and my max deadlift is 540. Should it be 60%? I think it's over 60% because I've done three. What's the big stone? 320, 325? 330. 330.

I've done the 330 for a double, and my max deadlift is 540. Or at the time when I was doing that, it was 540. So say your deadlift is like theoretically 771. Just to pick up. Just picking numbers. You know, just random numbers. 50%, that's 385, so that's probably relatively easy. In my opinion, I think for sure you should probably be able to stone load.

I'm just feeling out where I'm at. I think about maybe two-thirds of your deadlift, but there's a point of diminishing returns, too. The world record is 550. And the other thing with stones is they get bigger as they get heavier. That becomes the issue. Well, if your deadlift was 771, 66% then would be a 509 Atlas stone. Which is then a lot.

So I think this happens on a curve. Yeah. I do. Oh, we're getting into more advanced principles now. Curves. But I bet if 60% at hill, if you had a 771. I think in that 60 ballpark is pretty accurate actually. Because what was yours?

5.40 you said? Yeah. Or 5.45 or something. Just assuming – because I did 330. I just said assuming I could do 20 more pounds, 350, since I did the 330 for a double. That put me at like 65%. Brian Shaw, for example, we know his max deadlift is what?

Like 10, 20 or whatever? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what has he done? The that the slater stone he's done what's that 550 yeah 555 yeah 560 now maybe so i buy 10 so it's 56 ish he's at like 50 yeah 54 to 56 so i mean it's easy to say over 50 definitely probably definitely for almost everyone i mean unless you're brad then I mean over 40 is probably good. And if you're really good at stones, it might be as high as, I don't know. Is Brad on my team?

70? No, he's not on my team. Yeah, fuck you, Brad. Tim, Tim's going to, Tim's going to really, what's Tim's deadlift? Do we even know? I don't know. At that competition, he did. I think he did like 550 or something.

I think it was right around the same as me. So he's at about 80%. Yeah. That's true. Technician. Yeah, he is, actually. That's ridiculous. He's very skewed on that curve, too.

But how about this? Do you think there is a strong correlation, generally speaking, across the lifting population between someone's deadlift and their Atlas stone loading? Well, I would say. I don't know that that's the metric that I would use. I don't know what I would use instead. I don't think it hurts, though. I would use that as a baseline. Like if someone has a strong deadlift.

I will say that the most. Assuming they're over five five yes if you're oh especially if you're over six foot and you have a strong deadlift i'm gonna say chances are you're you're gonna be good at stones or you have a high potential for stones i think part of it i do think deadlift is important because the only time i've ever felt like i was gonna tear a hamstring was during like a really heavy stone yeah um but i don't know still that that's a direct character because i've seen some really good deadlifts be pretty fucking yeah stones yeah it's it depends a lot on what your your wingspan is like i do think too that there's a significant amount and this is maybe a piece that gets i think there is a significant amount of like

upper body strength like i think it's always a combination of your your deadlift and squat in your ability to keep your midline like tight you know what i mean yeah because to lock in that stone you got to be from really your traps to your fucking calves got to be rock solid right you know i if i had to pick a barbell exercise to be a barometer i guess it would probably be dead the deadlift is probably the best one yeah but being a like the but if you move your deadlift up 50 pounds would your stone go up i don't know that it would yeah you know i yeah i don't think so either or could you you could certainly get better on your stones without increasing your deadlift. You could just get more proficient at stone lifting.

If your fucking chest is weak as fuck, I don't know that you're going to lock in a bag or lock in a stone like that. So hopefully that answers Brad's question for a friend. Which is, Brad, Tim's going to crush you if you're on the red team. Mr. Night Moves. The next one here is from uh patriotic underscore power lifting for my calculations you are selling your shorts for seven dollars and 63 cents more than they actually cost what was the hardest hurdle you had to overcome when starting the store aspect of massonomics besides getting people to buy overpriced apparel. Love the show.

And if people haven't been following us on Instagram and the podcast and everything, this is becoming a running joke about the shorts and the price that they are. So I was happy to see that there was at least one comment about the shorts. What was our biggest hurdle? There was a real question in there. And that actually is a good question too.

What was the hardest hurdle you had to overcome when starting the store aspect of Massonomics? Have we had any big landmark things we had to get over? Or what's the biggest challenge in it? I guess the two parts there to me would be either the logistical part or the part of actually getting people to buy stuff.

The logistical part... Because you can have a store. Yeah, it's really... I mean, we use Squarespace. If you want to start a store, I mean, you can go on Squarespace, Shopify, whatever, and you can click a few buttons and literally start a store. You can make it pretty easy. That's not even a hard part anymore. Like, you know, I do have experience. That is kind of how I make my living is doing this online stuff.

But I'm fairly confident that if I didn't have anything to do with it, you guys could have figured that part out in a certain amount of time. Yeah, it might not be as good. It wouldn't be as good. But I think almost anyone that knows how to use a computer could figure out how to get something out there. So yeah, I would say the barrier for entry there is really low now. I mean, anyone can do that.

But the hard part is getting people to go there. Yeah, yeah. I think for us it was a combination of you do need a thing that people really like yeah and and so our like initially what we really wanted to do is like well it's just going to be like content marketing right so we're going to make a podcast and hopefully it doesn't fucking blow and we're going to do articles and videos hopefully those don't blow and if people like those they'll like us and they'll buy a shirt that says Massonomics. And that generally was the way things were moving.

And then the Lyft shirt, the Weekend Warrior shirt came out. And that is almost such a good. Change the game. Well, it's such a good. What is it? It's such an appealing design. Yeah. That people will actually buy that who don't know us.

Yeah. And that is. Some people have found the brand through that shirt. Yeah. And then bought other stuff. And I would say that's a real kind of the brand through that shirt yeah which is then is good and then bought other stuff and i would say that's a real uh kind of the beginner's mindset is one thing you have to be aware of that i mean we kind of fell into the trap right away too is just because your logo is on something doesn't mean like all right people are going to be lining up

out the door to buy it like then you got to let them like like they have to like the thing yeah that's probably and we even talk about this, that's probably the hardest purchase or the realest purchase is when we see people buying things like the OG shirt that has just the Massanomics logo. We know they're a real fan because you don't buy that shirt unless you are actually a fan of what's going on here. And we're stoked if you buy the Lyft shirt and the huge license plate. Oh, totally, yeah. And that one has more universal appeal to it. But if you buy one with just like an OG logo on it, we're like, oh, man, he likes us. This guy's on the fucking team.

Yeah, it's not like you just walked into a store and you're like, oh, there's a shirt. I'll buy it. Like you might do with Nike or Under Armour or Adidas. Oh, okay, that's a Nike shirt. Yeah, our shirts are not like a utilitarian shirt. It's like, yeah, you have to go out of your way to seek this out. And then to buy a shirt with a logo that you have no idea what it is is really, really unusual. So you know someone's a real fan when they're doing that.

But like you said, it's not that hard to get the site set up. And it's not that hard to get things in there that you at least think are cool. But then it's the next step of like – Other people. Yeah. And even just getting people to see it at all. Like it can exist out there on the internet and you watch the traffic and like traffic why aren't people going to actually

traffic's really easy all you got to do is just write articles make videos do podcasts facebook posts and instagram posts like for three years straight and then consistently yeah like multiple times a week consistently for three years and then traffic starts to go in like that's all you have to do yes all you got to do is do it all the time for a really long time and you can't be really bad at it you can be con you can be as bad as we are at it but you can't be much worse than that yeah yeah and then that's it people just start buying stuff then so all we did is just work we're pretty average for a really long time yep uh that was our biggest hurdle. Was there any, and that is the hurdle staying average for this long, like not to be mediocre for, and,

and still be in the game as long as we have. It's actually exceptional. How good we can, what, but we talked about this in the beginning too, though, is like, even with just the podcast is like,

we knew when we started, like, this has to be a thing that we do every week for fucking a really long time because if you do it for a year it doesn't matter oh you know we're at like over 120 some episodes like i think it's easy for people to get into something like a podcast and do it for even six months which would feel like a long time probably you know it seemed seemed like a decent amount of time maybe like man this is not going anywhere yeah we're really like what are we doing wrong?

And, you know. Try doing one for 100 plus episodes that doesn't go anywhere. And then still one for 100 plus episodes. Imagine. Yeah.

Two and a half years in. But I think that happens a lot. I mean, you've talked about the statistics before and it's like. The drop off is crazy. We're probably in like

less than 1% of a. For sure. Because nowadays everyone has a. Right. So many started one. So many people have started one. I would love to see the amount of podcasts that haven't produced an episode in over a year. I mean, Serial isn't doing it, that's for sure.

See, we're gaining downloads on them probably all the time. Every day. I don't know if I'd believe it. We're losing more ground every day. I'm sure five years from now, they'll still. Now our listeners are like, what's this cereal? We're like, damn it. It's going to waste like 10 hours you could have listened to us.

Was there any other significant hurdles with starting the store? Anything else? I think generally quality control is a big deal. Inventory is like managing inventory, like having the money to like. Yeah. When you have to have money to buy orders up front and then you have to play mind reader and guess like, am I going to have a lot of people that are large people or 3X people or small people? And you have to magically guess sizes. And then don't shoot yourself in the foot because if you run out of mediums and you're selling those things like crazy you gotta buy lost a lot of sales yeah plus also the thing

is if you run out of mediums you gotta buy another hundred fucking shirts right so it's like you gotta you gotta spend a significant chunk of change like the weekend warrior we stock eight sizes yeah so if we get low on one but luckily yeah luckily we have a high highly top secret math equation to get all the sizes calculated i do have a running algorithm yeah i do have there's a running algorithm on that you have to punch in the day one of the biggest fan bases in the world i would say not biggest is in numbers but biggest is in shirt size we do sell more four x's than i ever would have expected yes we're to the point where you're like who are these guys like i know people that wear 2xs and some even that wear 3x

bigger than that i'm the biggest person i interact with on a yearly basis yeah i wear a two and there's people buying shirts two sizes larger than that that's fucking weird yeah well i do i take the probably the most satisfaction when someone in a 4xl buys that like this is like good this is gonna be good advertising people get it yeah so also my favorite is when we sell a small because i'm yeah yeah yeah that person is on board yeah those both of those numbers make me happy when i although those. Although those are the two least common sizes. Which makes complete sense. Solid question, though, Mr. Powerlifting. So, Nick.kinda.thick. That's Nick Tadlock.

So, not thick Nick. Nope. He's kinda thick, Nick. Two Cs. So, it's a booty thing. Would you rather have... Oh, this is a good question. Would you rather have, Oh, this is a good question. Would you rather have penis sized nipples or a nipple sized penis?

Penis sized nipples all day. I think that's a self. I think that's, well, it depends on who the person is. This could be a very good photo shoppable. Yeah. I mean,

Tyler, you're almost there already. I'm almost there. I got baby dick. I'm almost there. I got baby dick. I don't know. Man. Penis-sized nipples would be pretty hard to cover up. I think you can cover them up.

I don't know. I mean, if you wore a sweatshirt every day, you could probably. It would be really super awkward even just going. But also think of this. Think of this, though. From a competitive standpoint, your range of motion could be cut down drastically on the bench yeah it could be a little contact yeah depending on whose penis we're talking about i guess but a nipple sized penis there's no coming back from that i mean that's essentially non-existent

unless you're tyler stone though It will do nothing for you. Could it be your nipples? Could I choose your nipples? I would like to not have either of those. I think I'd go with penis-sized nipples because you could address that problem in a lot of different ways. Through surgeries, through sweatshirts. I don't know how you address a nipple-sized penis. I don't know what you would do. The only addressing it would be never address it.

Remember letting it come up. Also, the problem is you'd have to never let anybody else experience it. That's right. And also, it's of no use to you either at that point. What are you going to do with it during your alone time? Yeah. That is a hard-hitting question, though. These are the type of issues we like to tackle.

Then, like, they like transferable no i don't i don't think there's any sensation they're not actual dicks they're just nipples the size the size of okay uh oh good great question here steven steven re davis maybe uh let me know if you need anyone on the podcast thumbs up that sounds legit like is he is he gonna find people for us or is he suggesting himself i just wanted to make sure this guy doesn't follow us or something like no this is just a is it a band well i don't know that it's a bot but it's definitely it's. Before we've made fun of him too much, I wanted to make sure it's not actually someone else. Listen, Steve.

Send us your fucking address. So, yeah, I guess we'll let you know. I mean, could you find someone for us? Because I'm not sure any of us know who you are. Yeah. Maybe we should have them on. Skype it in, bro. Let's do it.

So this next one is from Free underscore Shell. Looks like Fraser Friesal. Last name I can't pronounce. F-R-I-S-E-A-L. He's got the Huge Life shirt, so he's an OG. Yep. Is he also, did I see an overseas fan? Is that the one that he had the story?

Yeah. Yes. No, this is worth telling, actually, what he did. I reposted this at one point in time. Like a true fan. Did he snuggle our shirts over to you? Yeah. So he is from what country?

I don't know. A different country. That's not this one. That's the most. He was from. Like Maine or Vermont or something like that? From Malaysia or some other kind of China. So what he did in order to get a shirt,

because we don't have international shipping yet, he traveled to the USA and got a shirt delivered to his sister-in-law because we don't ship internationally. That's what he did, I guess. It wasn't that long ago. The rest of it was mostly on real estate. So he went to the United States, spent time with your sister-in-law, that's what he did, I guess. It wasn't that long of a thing. The rest of it was mostly on religion. But that does take a certain level of... So he went to the United States,

spent time with your sister-in-law, which any of you guys who have sister-in-laws know how awful that is, just to get a Masonomics shirt. Yeah. I mean, that does take a certain level of planning. And I don't believe for a minute there was anything else that that trip was about.

It was just to get the shirt. Just to get the shirt. So any international people, like, stop complaining uh just fly to america yeah yeah hang out with your sister-in-law for a week and listen or frazier's sister-in-law maybe she like maybe she's open to anyone that wants to like she could be running an underground network for uh housing people that want to get massomics shirts. Yep, Underground Railroad of sorts. Okay. Oh, this one's for you, Tyler.

I saw that. Derek Gray said, can you address this on the podcast? What's the deal with Tyler Stone humping sandbags? He acts like it makes him strong. I don't know that either Tommy and I can address can address i do hump i do hump my fair share of sandbags i mean that's called squatting because like you do like hump is a word you use like to like in uh like you're carrying yeah you like hump it i actually don't do near as many sandbag

carries as i should and i'm so bad at them that i would never put those videos on instagram so there's no way that's what he saw so i'm assuming he means me getting a little sexual with the sandbag squatting them um yeah it makes me pretty strong i guess i don't know wrecked my shit we did i did a deal the other day with derrick at our gym we just decided we were going to squat every single sandbag we had for 10 reps um that once well i get one shot no we's dead no he's dead put them all on top of each other loaded them up it was like

340 reps of sandbag squats ascending in weight from like 40 pounds I mean 340 reps of anything in general is yeah

and actually now I'm four days removed from that and my legs are still fucked and there's like different spots I've had this weird thing

with my left knee for six months and I have and it helped well no I have the weirdest soreness on certain areas of my left leg that I never imagined before. I was like, oh, God, my shit is just fucked up. So, yeah, I think a person should do those more often. Even me.

So, yeah, it makes me super strong. So, Jake, the snake Heinreich, red team guy. I don't see a lot of blue team guys asking questions honestly the blue team they're so busy training yeah they're uh they can't blue team generally speaking i picked the strongest not the best with words probably a fair strategy jake said if you could not a reading contest that's true if you could immediately add 50 pounds to any of your lifts but only one of your lifts which would it be i'm assuming we're going off a squat bench or deadlift yeah that's what i would say or turkish get up or lat raises maybe yeah 50 pounds of my delt raise would be pretty cool just because i bet i'd be so much

i'll go first on this one i would like in the short term i'd like to have 50 pounds on my deadlift like right now however i know where my ceiling is at with some things and i really really think that if you could take a bite out of 50 pounds on my bench press now because i might never see that ever another 50 pounds. So like I would take that overnight if I could, cause that might take me 10 years. Right. Yeah.

Right. You know? Yeah. I think I would go with my squat with the idea that if I'm putting 50 pounds on my squat, I'm very close to 600. Yep. And I've never had my squat like go up in this other list, kind of not just come with it.

So I think that's the one I'd have to go with. Yeah. Just, just have to hope that if that's going to go up to close to 600, that things are going to magically come with it. Yeah. I would choose bench for similar reasons that you said, because I would probably enjoy that.

But like, if if my like it would be the most i'm just thinking of what the numbers would be if any of them were 50 plus and if my bench was plus 50 it would be a really good number you could quit your job well that's where i'm at like i'm pretty sure if i went to the bench now like just sat down and did it i think i'd be in that 450 range i think if i that got me close to five, I'd be pretty stoked. Yeah. Because I know that in the rest of my life, there's not another 100 pounds to be had on my bench.

Right. I just don't think that's possible for me. And I'm like, well, so if I did it to squat, I'd be 600 pounds. And that at 275 isn't like, I mean, there's people I can see 200-pound, 180-pound guys doing that for reps every day on the internet also like don't you kind of expect that out of yourself at some point anyway right so for me like if i put 50 pounds on my squat that'd be like you know i'm thinking like around six and a quarter 630 640 but now but i also like like that'll come same thing with my deadlift i'm like that'll we'll

get there but my bench like at some, that might actually extend my ceiling. Yeah. So I think that's the way I would do it. Benches, I mean, relatively speaking on bench, it means if you're just saying 50 pounds, it goes farther on bench because it's lighter weights. But if you're talking a percentage, 10%, then it might, I mean, it it would make more there's a pretty big

window where 50 pounds in your deadlift still just you're still just in the in the ballpark of if you're in if you're average right now you add 50 pounds you're still probably pretty average i think you can i think you can be average for about 120 yeah yeah you know what i mean it sucks like it's true that's like if i go from like about like seven to 750 it's a meaningless difference to me i think almost where it's like that's kind of how like like i just feel like well yeah i don't i don't really consider the next level there till you're starting getting my next my thing with my devs i really want to get that to fucking i'd like to get that over seven and that's so far away but then when i get get to that, it's like, well, Jesus, Tyler, you're 330 fucking pounds.

Like a 700 pound deadlift isn't anything. So eight, like eight is where it matters. Yeah. It's like, well, Christ, nevermind. Yeah. You know, like there's just, there's too much ground to be had to where 50 pounds doesn't matter. Yeah.

Yeah. But if they said a hundred, what if it was 50 pounds on your bench or a hundred pounds on your other two lifts? Oh, a hundred for the, if it was a hundred all across the board, I'd still put it on my bench. Oh no.

Like, no, if it was, yeah, if you're going even numbers across, across the board. Yeah. If it was 50 for bench or a hundred on all the others,

then I definitely would probably take, I'd take a hundred on my, well, probably deadlift just so it's not so deficient, but it's tempting to put it, slap it on my squat. On a better, yeah. So it's kind of, do you put it on your better lift or your lesser lift?

That's a good question, though, I think. I like that question. Yeah, especially from a red team guy. I mean, because that's the only way anyone on the red team is going to get any stronger, is with fucking wishes. Yeah, trying to get – we is with fucking wishes. Yeah. Trying to get a, we need 50 pound. Okay. So this is from DiabloCo underscore lift underscore hunt underscore shoot.

Long name there. Juan DiabloCo. Said, what gives you the audacity to charge for your work? In all seriousness, how do you factor your overhead hours put into design product cost and printing costs into the final price of your products does using an american manufactured product like champion affect your overhead versus chinese sourced materials well i think the the chinese source materials are a reality for every single apparel company out there yeah like we won't lie about like all our shirts technically i mean the only materials

it's actually hard to find um american manufactured like i think american apparel actually actually i think they're out of business now i don't think american apparel exists anymore um probably because they're operating costs. And the thing that people complain about prices, you go with American manufactured clothing, that cost gets passed right on to the consumer. And like, oh, a $22 shirt is now probably closer to a $30 shirt because everything else.

Or maybe, I mean, you could be looking at like, I think some stuff we looked at because I was talking with okay you know about that and he was like you know we would love to be because all our shirts are designed by us yeah in the u.s printed not only in the u.s but locally in the town that we live in so that that money is stays i mean that's a real thing there's people that we know and families that we know and people who I go to my kids' soccer games who's a friend there who is the person who sews the fucking, does the embroidery on the hats and shit. So that has value to us.

Truthfully, I don't think that costs us. That alone doesn't cost us much more than if we sent it out. But the material, the actual shirts and hats themselves, that's the nature of all apparel business. Nike's not making their fucking shoes here. No. That's just the way it is. But the champion shorts, honestly, was just because we –

the truth is Nick from fucking Live Large, they had some champion shorts and we were like – Those are sweet. We were like, well, those look pretty cool. We could do that for ours. And so we looked into it and I don't know that even that factored into it other than we just liked those shorts. Yeah, I think we liked those shorts.

That was as simple as it was. It was like, oh, these look nice. You kind of always remember them from high school or when you were younger. Like, yeah, these are kind of like something I saw growing up a lot. They're like a middle-of-the-road shorts. And it's actually, surprisingly enough, it's not the easiest thing to find blank shorts from bigger companies either like that's yeah and if you want to get into like if we wanted to start doing like Under Armour and Nike stuff like that like you're probably looking because you're paying as much for

a blank as you will yeah you're really paying a premium then too um but yeah I think that's uh but so that's the way it is for us like it's i don't think that we put even a ton of thought into you know yeah i mean as far as that decision as far as design time and all that stuff goes i mean we're essentially not getting paid for yeah yeah we basically don't count our time as anything like i mean anything that we're putting our time into we're just counting as zero dollars. Right. We have to do that or else it would... Yeah, no one would be able to afford this stuff.

Right, right. The value for us is that the product gets out there and then it hopes that the volume will go at some point to where we can like... Right. There can be some money. Right. But if not, at least we had a pretty good time and it didn't cost us money to have our shirts all over the country.

Yep. Yeah, we kind of can't... So we basically can't factor in some of those things that he's asking about. Well, I mean, probably the biggest factor is we try to just offer it at a competitive or comparable price to what other people are doing. And I really think if you look at the market, we're, for the most part, either average or on the low end as far as pricing goes. Yeah, just to answer that specific question, how do we factor in and come up with the final price? That's what we do. We look at what other people are doing.

We know what our cost is on that individual product. And then we, we know that it has, you know, we, and we've got a dollar range kind of with everything. Like if we're not selling it for at least this much more, it's not even like, it's not worth our time whatsoever. Like it almost is costing us. And it's also one of those things that the bigger you get, the more successful you can be because you're buying in bigger quantities. And when you have the mass purchasing on your side, those companies have a lot more profit built into these things then too. So that is kind of one of the tough things of being small is that you have to buy quantities that you can, you know, make some money off of, but you also have to make sure you're selling that product because if you're going to buy it and just sit on it, you're just losing your money right there too.

And we've got to make enough money to turn on the air conditioning in the studio. It is warming. I'm sweaty. I saw it on Tanner's bra. That's how I am sweaty. Luckily, I've got on a pair of Champion mesh shorts. How old are those things oh they've seen some they've seen some some days of wear and tear they got a hole right

in the crotch so so they've been through it all extra mesh yeah i like to call it oh i think that was about all we had for questions let me double check did you guys and you guys have any good questions like questions i can ask you guys yeah is this the time i can ask you guys anything i want to that you finally haven't had the opportunity truth or dare tommy tommy's getting married in t minus three weeks uh two weeks from yesterday two weeks from yesterday is there any part of you listen this won't even come out until the week of the wedding

yeah so and you know Leah doesn't listen to this podcast nope gave up on that a long time ago so are you having second thoughts listen it's never too late until you're actually there oh I know I got plenty of time to think this through still

so I'm just going to keep putting that thought out. Is all the planning done? Pretty much, yeah. Did you have to do a bunch of it? Not really. I had to offer. There was times I was supposed to offer input, and I didn't do a good job with that. And then you're in trouble.

Not so much that I was in trouble. I just want to go. Like I said, I want to go and have a good time. Like that is my, you know, obviously the wedding and the ceremony, like that is a part of it. That's not important to you. But I want to go and have a good time. And I just, that's it.

Like that's my two check marks. Yeah, it's a celebration. I mean, for those things to happen, there are a lot of things that hopefully don't get messed up and go according to plan. But I guess those are my two metrics for the success of the day. I had. And ideally, I'm married before the day is over, too. Listen, if that gets done and you have a good time.

Yeah. Like, first and foremost, I need to get married. And then if I get married, then I need to have a good time. Yeah. And if I have a good time and everything turns out OK, then it was. then I need to have a good time. And if I have a good time and everything turns out okay, then it was,

I've never been to a wedding and been like, what a total fucking clusterfuck because like something was disorganized. Well, you don't know. Nobody knows. No one knows. My only concern with when I go to weddings where I'm like, Jesus Christ,

is that they like, well, there's way too much going on right now. Like we could have just done a whole lot less of this shit. Like I remember for our wedding it was one of those deals where i would be in trouble if i didn't offer my input on a thing a color a centerpiece all these things i don't fucking care about at all so i'd be like i don't really care about that at all that's the wrong answer the answer is whatever she thinks she wants to do you have to be like yes that's what it is

that's the one but you're in trouble if you have an opinion and you're in even more trouble if you don't so i didn't have a much i didn't i didn't provide i wasn't very helpful throughout yeah and i got it like i i have to hats off to my fiance like she's done an amazing job like i could not put in one tenth of the amount of hours she did and still have any type of sanity i would have just lost it like months ago but i mean it's pretty amazing that she's managed to put up with all that yeah and the other thing too it's crazy um not to like bash people but you kind of forget because you start to just work with whether it's business professional you just work with certain people so you know what to expect or

how they work but it is crazy the number of people that are really not on top of things like it's business professional, you just work with certain people so you know what to expect or how they work. But it is crazy the number of people that are really not on top of things. It's just across the board in life. Yeah, when you're relying on a lot of people. I mean, I'm pretty slack. I mean, you guys know, especially with the podcast, I'm not the world's most punctual person, but you know I'm going to be here

within 10 or 15 minutes of when we say. You're not going to not come. Yeah. I mean, it's like crazy like the number of people that didn't even know like on a certain day that you were coming like like their schedules off by days i mean i'm not talking like 10 15 minutes days yeah or weeks even like oh i thought that was next week or next like it's i think it's a common thing in like in anything like we're selling the house here and we had we're supposed to have a fucking just the home

inspection which my understanding the home inspection is the other people pay a person a home inspector to come in and look over our shit that's it the home inspector is a contractor who's licensed and everything he can come and look through everything what happened was the fucking home inspector the buyers the buyers realtor a contractor they hired to come test air quality, another contractor they hired to come put a fucking camera through the sewer. All that shit just shows up at my house fucking 40 minutes early. So we're still here. You hear the dog barking down there. He was fucking pissed.

And like, also like, it's a small town and i worked in the construction type business for a long time so i'm like well two of these motherfuckers are crooks i don't want them in my fucking house yeah you know what i mean like and it's like so now i have to have these people that i didn't i was like i still have some sort of say in what happens yeah you just forget that like you can still you can do business one way like we'll do you know we've had issues with very few we've had issues with very few, but we've had issues with shirts or similar to the wrong size.

And we always just try to do the right thing and try to do it in a timely manner. If we make a mistake, we usually just try to make sure we find a way to make it right. I think any of our customers that ever experienced anything that was not to their liking

have in the end been very happy with whatever we've done. But we, as a business, you kind of know it's like, sometimes you just have to eat it and be like oh you do know like it is yeah but like but yeah and but in these cases here it's just like it's like you forget that like no no like people are still allowed to suck and the crazy thing is too is like i can say going through this process with the wedding

is that i mean there's literally been people that we would write, we would have wrote a couple thousand dollar check to, but they just couldn't return a phone call or write an email. And you have to go, well, sorry, I got to go on to the next person. Like something's got to happen here. And it's like, you literally just lost out on, and I'm sure someone else came and filled that spot eventually, but it's like thousands of dollars just went through your fingertips because you couldn't return.

Just like, and all you're doing is you're like, dude, I'm just trying to pay you for, it's like, no, I'm literally trying to give you money. Like this is all this is like,

you do the thing that you do that you charge and I'll pay you for it. Yeah. Uh, like relating that, uh, within the strength and fitness industry and stuff I've, you know, you've,

you've bought a lot of equipment through the gym and stuff like that. One company that I've had really, really good luck with as far as customer service is elite FTS. Like I, as far as, I mean, of course their equipment's good. I think people universally believe that. Um, I don't know if they're not usually are probably hardly ever the cheapest, but their customer service is also really, really good. like you get friendly people and they they do the right thing and they're really good rogue i've had i've had some mixed probably more bad than my last three big purchases were from rogue i mean like like many many thousands of dollars dog shit customer service yeah fucking shipping comes through late like like way like insult like

many days late and then fucking the freight company completely drops the ball and i fucking simply let rogue know like hey like i'm not happy with this i could have bought the stuff directly and paid extra for the shipping and then i'd have had some recourse with the shipping company but because i spent all this extra money with you the shipping is supposed to be free so it's kind of on you to make this right at this point and they're like well we talked to the shipping company and they're not going to give us anything back so like there's nothing we can do sorry and i'm like oh so now i'm doing shit on you on my podcast yeah basically it's like fuck you dude i mean it was like eight thousand dollars yeah and it's like you fucking and they literally

wasted mine and one of my other coaches we had to take an entire afternoon off to wait for a truck that literally was already three days late and then just didn't come and it's like well and they're like well i mean we'll try to get there tomorrow okay but tomorrow now we are all booked yeah i move personal training class schedules around like so like fuck you if it comes tomorrow yeah you put the shit together yeah you know like and so they and they're not even a single if they would give me a 50 gift card yeah you're like something like a hey we fucked up yeah is all it takes you know on an order of that size like i

won't frankly i won't unless i absolutely if it's a product that only they sell i won't spend ten dollars on rogue anymore it's just it's not they fucked that up and they fucked up the order i had before it and they didn't do the right thing in the end and i'm pretty easy to keep happy if you just keep me in the loop and yeah so yeah i'm pretty much there i'm done with them and their thing used to always be customer service every time you heard anyone that did any business with the Rogue, it sounded just like your lead FTS review. Yeah. And the last two years, that's gone right down the fucking drain.

And you've had experience with them like that? Maybe they've gotten big enough that they've slipped. It's like Matt says with Pioneer. Yeah. You've got to stay small enough to care. Yeah. And that's a good one, too, to throw out. I would say matt obviously has exceptional

customer service pioneer like any i think anyone can ask him anything about anything any belt that they've got working on and he'll basically i mean find out where it's at he'll get you an answer yeah yeah he'll do whatever he can to get you an answer and i'm is there is titan's the same way right well that's how about have you ever had a customer service thing i've had just quality problems and frankly i haven't thrown it back at them on a customer service issue yeah my yokes now i gotta take in and get welded because i'm not gonna have guys run on them with hopefully a thousand pounds yeah um so i'm gonna take them in this week and get them get them re-welded just because some of the things i'm looking over i don't trust my service dumbbells bent to shit like literally just bent and i've used it six times and

so i'm gonna have that in i'm gonna have that welded up the logs i've had no beef with the logs at all but also like at some point you're a metal manufacturer like this is just metal like how are you messing this up yeah like the yolks i mean they are they should right break it i mean that i guess the welds should be better or like yeah basically yeah you know and they didn't run a full beat all the way through they did quick pop pop pop and one of them cracked and yeah so so not necessarily a customer service issue with them but just a call yeah which i think is kind of yeah yeah which is a shame because it's like how much extra money does that cost yeah you know yeah once you're already running a weld over something like you're there you've you man you just go ahead and do it

a little bit better you've sat down at the table just fucking eat yeah you know i just i don't get it and you can tell on there like on the wagon wheels even you can just if you just look at them closely you're not made with care no no it's like yeah i guess you're really just slapping these you know you're doing your thing it's like someone showed up to work one day and they're like you gotta make 50 of these before you go home all right here we go but still to their credit i'll spend 40 bucks having those things welded up and i was still on two yokes i still saved myself 500 yeah oh yeah there's definitely products in the line where it's totally worth that. You know, it just is what it is.

And I've used the fuck out of them yolks between then and now. And so like, frankly, I still got my money's worth. I'm still generally happy with the purchase, not with the product on its own, but their customer service, I've never had to interact with other than like, they make it good. You buy stuff through their website, they stick fucking bonus points points you basically get 10 cents for every dollar you spend so oh really i've put in orders of two thousand dollars and gotten two hundred dollars yep in credit i can spend right away which is already off some shit that i got for 10 off yeah then you're like it's like how are they making any money yeah elite fts has a similar program that you kind of have to sign up

for or something so keep that in mind if you're ever buying anything from set up an account yeah yeah anytime you're doing something especially a company like elite fts where you're hoping one that's all big dollar stuff for the most yeah and you're hoping you can do it you know often right it's really worth another good tip if you're if you're a gym especially or maybe if you're someone that's buying more than just like a bar from them or, you know, if you're buying multiple things over time or spending a decent amount of money, don't just buy it on the website. Like they have sales reps. And if you talk to them, like sometimes there's some quoting or negotiating to be done there. Or they can even make tweaks to a certain product for you. It's not

like you might think it's not like an amazon where it's like i want that one and they pull it off the shelf and throw it in the box like shipping can be negotiated a little bit you know some some additional features might be able to be interchanged and it's not a big deal for right so it's definitely if even if they don't you're not out anything other than talking to a human being you know but like it's which sometimes which could i mean but the couple that i've talked to in the past are both pretty good human beings so it's not a bad thing yeah i think uh for the like i've i've bought you know with my gym just because we don't have i never had a lot of money i bought some of the i bought some expensive stuff like some of the higher dollar things where i know i can't compromise things you just don't like

rowers and like skiers stuff like that like i'm not gonna buy a knockoff rower i'm just gonna have to eat the money and so like you have a fuck ton of money tied up into those things but like those concept two products the rowers and those skiers like i can't imagine a thing that puts gets more like beating reps than that that has so there's a lot of moving parts and a lot of electronics you know i mean little things got to read constantly and be accurate and i haven't had a fucking lick a problem i have a plug-in on one that comes unplugged but it's not even the plug-in's fault it's people just fucking can't adjust the screen without fucking fat hand in the goddamn cord

and like that's literally the only issue I've had with the $15,000 worth of Concept2 products I have, you know. So like that's a product that I think is always worth spending. Yeah, yeah. The farther it gets away from just like a block of metal. Yeah, yeah. The more you want. Even shit like our dumbbells, you know. Like I bought the big rubber metal yeah yeah oh you know the more you want yeah even shit like our dumbbells you know like i bought the big rubberized dumbbells you know from and i bought them from

titan because they had a good price and shipping was free um and the more i look at them they are the same as every other goddamn rubberized dumbbell i swear it's like bumper plates they're all made in the same place i think there's but two or three bumper plate factories in the world and they all got somebody every one of them's got 200 companies logos on their guys and they just you know yeah the one that this one's just products coming to my mind that brandon campbell does a lot of product reviews and he had one on the uh he's got the Rogue Deadlift frame. The Rogue Deadlift frame. All he bought from them is the frame.

It's the metal frame. Then you put the wood in. Then you put your wood inside of it. Is that a sexual thing? You put your wood in it. Then you take it out and put it back in. You can buy the mats from them too like they they'll instead of plywood in the center like they kind of fill it with mats and if you buy every if you buy the frame and all those mats from them you guys

tell me if you think this is a good deal you buy that frame just is there is there band pegs on this yeah there is band okay so we're talking pegs here. So that's, I guess, what you get outside of just deadlifting anywhere that you deadlift. To get it shipped is like $850. Jesus Christ. Seems like a lot. I don't know how much stall mats cost. Not that much.

I would assume not that much. $40 a piece. So you would actually need, and this isn't eight foot long. This is four by six, right? I'm not sure about that. I don't think it's a full huge platform. not that 40 bucks a piece so you would actually need and this isn't eight foot long this is a four by six right i'm not sure about that i don't think it's a huge platform i can see on his thing if that's what he uses right that's the one he has on his it might be eight feet one direction well i wondered if it was four by eight but it might maybe it's not it might be eight by i doubt it's eight by eight let me look here no it's not eight by eight i think it's 8x8. Let me look here. No, it's not 8x8. I think it's 4x8.

I think you're right. Yeah. Because front to back. Yeah. This thing right here. That's 4x8. That's four foot. Yeah. To the back.

Yeah. So, yeah, you would need literally one $40 stall mat and some fucking wood. Yeah. Yeah. That's wood. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. And the rim around the edges is not that important. It's probably like the extra steel that's just laying around like,

I guess we could throw it away or turn it into a... They're not running out of fucking square metal tubing. No. Fucking rogue. That's something I can't picture spending $900 on. No. Also, I think Titan sells one of those. Yeah.

Really? Like shipped for like a couple hundred bucks. That just also seems like something you could go to like any local metal shop and just tell them what you want. We have one. And they could probably just be like, oh, yeah, I can have that ready for you in a day here. Or it's like, I don't know, why don't you just sit down and grab a pop and I'll get it to you. Yeah. Materials will be like $75.

Yeah. Got $75. Yeah, $60 if it's cash. Perfect. What's this for? Is this for your weightlifting stuff? I've taken a yoke to get repaired before. Yeah, they're like, what is this?

What is this? Is this one of the guys thought of as maybe for like weight lifting and i'm like yeah that's that's what it is the other guy thought it was some sort of weird sex thing he's right too right yeah you're not wrong but uh well i think that has uh most of our q a yep run through that was unless anything new come in do we get any new hotness? Oh. Breaking questions. What's the longest distance anyone has traveled to compete in a massonomic strongman competition? In a massonomic strongman competition.

Okay. What's the who? What is the longest distance anyone has traveled to compete in a massonomic strongman competition? Oh. Prior to this year? Prior to this year would be like Sioux Falls. Yeah. Was it even Sioux Falls? Brookings, I suppose.

Yeah, Brookings. So a couple hundred miles? Yeah. A couple hundred miles. I mean, when you say a couple hundred miles, that's not super close. Yeah, I mean, it's not super close. Depending on what part of the country. I mean, that's a certain distance.

But this year, we're drawing from North Dakota, South Dakota, Iowa, and Minnesota. So four states. Is Brad probably the farthest? I think Brad's the farthest. So, and that's. Because I think Big Jacob's like an hour out. He's about four and a half out. I think Brad's five and a half out.

What's that, a little over 300 miles maybe? Around there? Yeah, 300, 350. So this year we are upping that. Before this year, that would have been a question where we kind of have to sheepishly answer like, oh, most people are like five minutes away. I literally will walk home from their drunk

at the end of the night. But this year we really are drawing in. And we're not against farther distances either. If someone wants to throw their hat to the ring. I tried to get Brian Benzel posted something about that. Well, JP Price might have been interested too. JP Price, I was like, well, I mean. Who knows what the future holds?

Maybe we can get JP Price and Brian Benzel to come log press against each other. That would be pretty dope. They're both pretty good. And what would be really fun is just to, like, have those guys just be two guys on each team. Yeah. You know, just like. We can say hands down it's going to be one of the better crowds they'll ever compete in front of.

Just like. It will be one of the better crowds. Not have them be like a special. They're just one of the guys. But they're just like on the team. Those guys just seem bigger than everyone else. Why are those guys so big? One of the top 10 powerlifting totals ever and a guy that competes at World Strongman every year.

Every single year. And then like 18 other guys that live around here. This guy enjoys doing strongman things a couple times a year. It's like all that stuff and then just big shame. This guy's watched Pumpy and Iron over a thousand times. Our basically laundry list of railroad employees. Yeah. No, we keep upping the ante on it. our basically laundry list of railroad employees. Yeah.

So no, we keep, we keep upping the ante on it. So it's coming along. Hopefully within, within a year or two, it can be a thing where we could actually just for no reason, like no reasonable draw other than that. It's a really fun time and a good show and a good party afterwards that people

will just be like, I don't know, fuck it. Let's go to South Dakota. I don't know. I mean, rough it for the weekend. It's all a joke, but it wouldn't take a ton of convincing to possibly get people like JP and Brian to come here. If we had to float him a few hundred bucks for his flight. I think that's probably what it would take.

That might be what it would take. Yeah. And as long as it worked timing wise. Otherwise, I think we could probably realistically do that. But the thing is, it's kind of weird to think, but for most of the people watching here, they wouldn't care. No. It wouldn't even make any sense to them.

It wouldn't draw in a bigger crowd. No. No. To us, it would be super cool yeah but to you know the the people watching this aren't really they're not strongman fans they're just like they're not even county fair fans they know we do this thing that have gotten to be like oh they don't i like that thing that this is more entertaining than watching sheep and rabbits most of the people that watch this don't even like us like personally or any of them they're just like

i don't know i guess we'll just hang out in the fucking i do think it has got to be one of the uh favorite events of a lot of people that go to the uh it's definitely the one thing that's exciting yeah and for people that aren't from the midwest and that wouldn't understand like what our count relatively speaking, our County fair is kind of a big thing. It's probably like one of the biggest draws to the city all year. You know, hands down.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause we don't have much else going on. Also it's during this narrow window of about 90 days where you're allowed to go outside. Yeah. Works out nicely.

Yeah. Yep. So, but that's got us about wrapped up for today today did we have any reviews we wanted to dive in or i didn't save them for next yeah we better there's a lot we could probably do a whole episode next yeah maybe next week we'll just read reviews if you didn't leave one you might want to get actually we're just going to start with the we're going to recap all reviews next episode so we're going to just rank them which is the best review. But we're just going to read them one at a time and then assign a number to them.

Yep. I give it a seven. So, let's do the rundown. Make sure you go to massonomics.com. There you're going to find our store. You can buy the shirt that Tommy's wearing. This shirt here. Tanner's wearing in a different color. The hat that Tanner's wearing.

Yeah, this you can buy. And you can buy autographed photographs of me if you email us at get big maybe we should start selling those as a joke and see if we could just put it like it'll be a promotion we should get really corny headshots yeah it'll be a promotion any order over 200 gets a free i don't want that so did you see for a while ago that like Hafthor was selling like autograph posters was the word he was using posters. It was this big. They were this big. They were like fucking postcards.

And I'm like, maybe something got lost in the language. One other thing. He's coming to the strong. No, no, no. Oh yeah.

Very cool. No, I was going to say, it's probably, we should mention that Jack and homeless passed away here this last week i thought we yeah i forgot we're not about mentioned but uh i didn't mean to interrupt no that's this is better to get this before we get too far that's uh i don't know what happened it's probably none of our business yeah i don't know but basically jacked and homeless steve uh i don't even know steve's last name navalaney that's why

he passed away um do you want to tell the story how he ended up in massanomics gym and this is just like this is the most sense it was uh on instagram this is probably about a year ago now you know i would probably last it was a year ago in may because i looked back to see what it was so and he was on like uh instagram um like i guess the live instagram or something or maybe huck finn was first or something i don't know but in one of them i think i think huck finn was on his and he said uh hey my buddy scuba steve is going through south dakota and he's looking for a gym to lift in and you know where should he go and i think it was like i think among a bunch of our people but i think also like tom callis had yeah sent him our way yeah and then he had talked to you and he was

basically like fuck it he went like 200 miles out of his way and like our way isn't like on the way our way was definitely out of the way there's a a part of South Dakota that's on the way, and you just go all the way through it. And ours, he literally had to go completely out of the way and completely back again to his path. There's no smoothing that out. No, no. But came 200 miles out of the way each way.

Yes. Rolled up in his truck, and we met down at the gym, and he came in and got a bench on singlet and all and signed our banner like that's that's crazy that he the only person to ever sign the mass and i was banner is him it is and uh he took a shower then and took a shower and hit the road and headed out but it was not i mean chatted up with all of us i think we had a good and he stayed in touch too i mean he bought a massonomic singlet yeah he was we sponsored oh yeah yeah we yeah and he was we talked to him with the arnold again and he was telling us how he would just have back surgery and he was excited

to get back to lifting and he was excited to get going for a meet like he had some things going for him there yeah that singlet i think what would be really cool is if uh you know i'm not gonna be asking right now but if we could ever get it, I'd like to, like, you know, put it in a, you know, like when people go into jerseys and, like, do something cool with it, you know, that would be a. Because it has his name and everything on it, doesn't it? Yeah, yeah, the Jackton Homeless across the back of it. Or at the very least, you know, get it done like that

and then have, like, Tom Fitts hang it up. Yeah, hang it up in his garage gym or something like that. So something like that would be pretty sweet to do. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, it's a shame. For us, we don't want to make it seem like we're like roommates with the guy in college. No, but that's the thing. For the little bit that we knew of, it was always really good.

And when we ran into him at the Arnold this year. He remembered us. He's really friendly and really cool. And we would have had to be a friend for life wherever you run into him. Like, oh, what are we doing? For sure. That's too bad. Condolences to his family and all his friends.

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