Massenomics Podcast - Ep.129: The Olympia Recap

Episode Date: September 24, 2018

We know you all listen to the Massenomics Podcast to hear our expert bodybuilding opinions.  So here is what we made of the 2018 Mr. Olympia competition.

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I'm here Tanner and I'm with fellow host Tommy. What's up? How's it going today? It is going so good. One quick thing, I texted you about this the other day that one of our YouTube videos was blowing up, at least as far as our YouTube channel is concerned. Yeah. It was our interview with Bill Kazmaier at the Arnold this year.

And, I mean, if an interview is going to blow up, that's a great one to blow up. Oh, that's a good one. That's, you know, one of our best YouTube videos that we've got, probably one of the coolest ones, one of the funnest ones that we've done. It's probably up there with the top five coolest, us some very memorable lines i mean to the point we actually use some of them on the front of our podcast they've become some other other ones too even so uh but anyways so if you haven't watched it yet maybe pause really quick go watch that and then come right back six minutes and 53 seconds long and it's uh it's and it's a good video.

There's a lot of cool stuff. It's a wild ride. Yeah, it's always a wild ride with Bill. But it's getting a ton of comments, too. And I was talking to Tommy about it, and I was like, first of all, why is this suddenly getting so many more views? I mean, it was getting thousands of views a day, and our YouTube channel, That's not typical.

Not quite typical. No. Looked into the analytics, and this is the thing. It was also getting a lot of comments, and a lot of really specifically related comments. All the comments had to do with people being upset that he didn't mention Paul Anderson. Which is a very specific comment. Not saying that Paul Anderson is not one of the strongest men of all time. I'm not saying that.

But I'm just saying we're talking a little different era here and a little different style of world's strongest man. So the title of the video, i don't think it's misleading but it's uh the title is bill kasmeier ranks some of the greatest strongmen of all time and and that is a part of the video that's kind of one of the questions that that uh i asked him when we're interviewing him absolutely and he answers it and he doesn't go into great depth on that very specific topic you know we maybe spend a minute and a minute and a half on that and he named some people like uh you know marius puginowski's junius vickis uh uh half thor bjornson brian shaw get named bill names you would expect to hear like there was no surprises there

right and we we didn't literally go into every person's name and he literally he didn't sit down with a pen and paper he was very put on the spot i mean to the point he didn't even know the interview was coming we literally just ran at him with a microphone and said go so long story short it's not weird to me that he didn't mention the name paul anderson like it would have been weird had almost had yeah in the context of it had he said something about paul anderson but so we're getting all these comments about why'd you leave Paul Anderson out? Like Paul Anderson never did drugs like the modern day guys. You know, that that's, there's like 20 of those comments. So we looked at the, he did drink blood allegedly though, which I would say is that's not a PED.

That's blood doping. I mean, that's kind of what I'm strong. I don't know. I don't know if they'll catch you for blood doping. If you're drinking massive amounts of blood. Was he drinking cow blood or something? Was he? That's what I think.

Did you ever read that? No. I think that was one of his things. Okay. Allegedly. Yeah. I could sure believe that. But so I wondered how or why all these Paul Anderson supporters were coming to this Bill Kazmaier video of ours and did some digging.

And YouTube was recommending this video after like five or six Paul Anderson videos. This was one of the number one recommended video for people to watch after this. So all these big Paul Anderson supporters were watching their Paul Anderson videos and then getting funneled right over to Bill Kazmaier. Let's see what these morons have to contribute. So what I would challenge people to do is just to mess with them a little bit. Go over to the Paul Anderson. Yeah, and be

like, Paul Anderson sucks, you know. Go over to the Paul Anderson video and say, have you ever heard of Bill Kazmaier? And there was people kind of dogging Bill in comparison to Paul Anderson too. Hey, we got a third co-host. Oh, we got a visitor on the podcast here. It's Bernie. And that tail's really whipping.

He's getting wild. Oh, a fourth guest on the Mastodonics podcast. They keep on coming. So Paul Anderson. Sorry, we have a dog distraction here. He's a big dog distraction, too. That's right.

The pound is here to take him away. Get him out. Get him out. Okay, okay. So, yeah, Paul Anderson. Bernie's gone now. Okay. Okay. So, yeah. Paul Anderson. Bernie's gone now. He's gone. But, yeah, go on that video and mess with those guys a little bit.

I never responded to any of them. I usually don't and something like that. I just let it go. It's not worth it. They're probably more fans of history than straight sports. I don't have anything against Paul Anderson. My biggest issue with him is he didn't record enough of his lifts. That's true. He's never put anything anything on instagram kind of selfish of him to

not do that it really even happened that's very debatable although that's a joke that is actually a concern with paul anderson as though because right yeah that was there was very little documentation of anything some of the numbers you're just kind of taking someone's dad's yeah right whatever they heard their word for it he does have some kind of taking someone's dad's yeah right whatever they heard their word for it he does have some kind of uh semi-official numbers but then he also has these reported numbers that are kind of more like a circus act yeah yeah like the backlift stuff and yeah there's some wild numbers out there how many thousands of pounds or whatever i don't even remember what that number was but i guess we'll never know if uh some of that was true but i think it's probably popular opinion that some of it was exaggerated

you kind of assume a lot of stuff from like before people could really fact check things was probably sort of exaggerated yeah exactly um so where are we going to talk about probably the strength event that we know the most about, that we cover the most about, is the Mr. Olympia? We are basically bodybuilding experts. I mean, I've been into bodybuilding for a long time now. You are definitely more of a fan of it than I am. I'm being sarcastic i'm uh not but you are but you are more of a fan you know way more than yeah i i mean the average person out the street i definitely know more than them but i as you know i kind of know the big names and you know the general idea of who has seven titles and eight titles and you know kind of some

of the stuff with it but when it comes to you get eight guys on stage and tell me why and i actually don't know outside of maybe like the absolute biggest fans in the world if anyone else could really tell you who should be right where and so our biggest experience that we can probably draw on personally is we went to the arnold a couple years ago and we watched the arnold classic bodybuilding show and we got to pick out from the guys on stage i mean that's the only bodybuilding show i've been to first i guess i have been to one other like local body oh so you are a little bit of an ace here i doubled the experience yeah um but we went to that arnold classic and who were the top runners when we were there so at the at

the arnold classic it was the winner winner was Cedric McMillan. Yeah. And then Dallas McCarver was the second. Yeah. And it was – I mean, those two definitely looked really good. Yeah. But outside of that, there was a big jump between top two and then, like, everyone else in the field.

That was fairly obvious. Yeah, there was a couple others in the field where I could have probably said well you guys are a little worse you know i like i can tell that you one or two are pretty far to the end like i remember there was maybe like a german white guy or someone that i remember being like yeah you don't really look quite right in comparison to the rest yeah yeah you just like there's always going to be that one person that just didn't have the right prep or like right going into the end of it things didn't come together the way they were planning on yeah but um yeah i mean even looking at that you know we were trying to figure like who is first and who is second we didn't really know like just like oh one of the guys is white and one of the

guys is black and like outside of that i don't really know what's different about them no no we didn't know. Yeah, Cedric did win, but you could have probably drawn it out of a hat of who was going to win. Yeah, and I would have went with it and been like, yeah, that's right. So our knowledge is good enough that we could tell those guys were better than the rest of them, and that's about it. So when you hear our opinions on the Mr. Olympia this year. Now you know we really know what we're talking about this time. Yeah, we have been to a show before uh but so what was the big news out of the olympia so it was this year was uh new champion we don't have an eight time champ on our hand or we don't have an eight

an eight pete on our hands with uh with phil heath uh sean Flexitron Rodin. Which is a good nickname. Over, maybe through the upset. I don't even know if it's an upset at this point. I mean, it probably is. I'm guessing it probably is. But he took it, took the Olympia title from him. And I don't know if a lot of people saw that one coming into the weekend. I think there was talk about, you know, someone might have a shot at it. I don't know if he was the one people were picking coming into the weekend. I think there was talk about someone might have a shot at it.

I don't know if he was the one people were picking. I think he got fifth last year, so it wasn't like he was right there. But yeah, he got first. Phil Heath got second, so he ends his streak at seven titles. And third was... I can't even remember now off the top of my head. Third was Roley Winkler. Oh, yeah.

I've heard that name before. Who also had the privilege of being the first ever People's Choice winner. Oh, yes. Roley Flexitron Winkler, right? Do you remember? Was he the guy? Everyone's Flexitron. Fourth was William Bonick, and fifth was Brandon Curry.

Do you know, was Roley Winkler, was he the guy in the first Generation Iron movie that was training with the old lady? Oh, I remember exactly what you're talking about, but I'm not sure. I thought that was like, was that Big Ramy? No, because he's the guy that trains in. Was that Dennis Wolfe? No, Dennis Wolfe was the German guy, and he didn't train with the old lady. Okay. Maybe it was him. I can't't remember now i'm trying to look quick uh but he got what third he got third this year yeah okay so he brought a pretty good package to the stage he did bring

a pretty decent package uh but so phil didn't win his. He did not win his eighth. And that would have been a big one because eight is the most that anyone else has ever won. We've got Lee Haney did it first, the first to go for eight. And then, of course, Ronnie Coleman, the second man. Have you heard of him before or just read about him? I've heard things about him. Is he the guy that said uh was quoted saying yeah buddy lightweight baby i think that could be him i uh i love his quotes i like to reuse them a lot those are like some of the best lifting videos of all time like it almost makes you wonder if

like instagram existed the way it does now then like how huge would he be oh boy that is a good question i bet he would because between the weight lifting like the actual weights being lifted yeah between like the quotes the crazy training sessions with like his spotters and like their jean shorts and yeah the whole thing like seemed like a totally different world well the thing is about the bodybuilders now that have social media accounts they have big followings and stuff but it's not i don't feel like a it's probably not even really them running it's it's very very like curated and even like domesticated i would say like you're not gonna really see anything on there you didn't expect like i personally think that those accounts suck and i like i couldn't

they're kind of boring it's like the censored version of this yeah like just a watered down version of their life like well yeah they're to have photos of them looking really, really good and not like a normal person ever. Right. And then it's, you know, three-fourths of them are their supplement company, and then that's about it. But if Ronnie had one and it was like his authentic thing like the YouTube. Those training videos. Yeah. If it was like that, that would be great.

It would be, in my mind, the best strength training account you could follow. I wish. If we could only go back in time. Just do things a little bit. If you and I could invent Instagram just so we could have Ronnie Coleman. And smartphones. And wireless internet for everyone. But not for any other reason other than that we could have Ronnie Coleman on.

That would be the gift to the world. That's how we would make our mark in the world. No, the money that goes along with all the rest of that wouldn't be a big deal. That would be very secondary to getting out his message. But as far as the Olympia champions of all time goes, there's only like 14 or 15 winners. Ever. And it's been around since what year?

1965. So Sean really is either the 14th or 15th winner. Like there's not many people that win this thing. That's kind of crazy. Like what other, any, like any. Any other sport that'd be like, oh, this sport sucks. No one wins it. Right.

Right. People complain about like the Yankees winning too much or like the Patriots. And even the difference about that, that even makes us more crazy that there's only 14 like in the nba or the nfl or anything like that those 30 teams are the same 30 teams every year from 1960 to 2000 there's been a few yeah i mean we're talking 90 but these guys have a shelf life of probably 10 years and then they're and it's all new you know there's constantly people wrote the pool of people is different like every year yeah like dorian yates didn't win one have a couple of rough five years win two more have a couple of more tough years one one in the 70s

and you know and like it's like you gotta hit while the iron's hot with this stuff and rack off a couple right in a row and then and then you're done like your shelf life is not very long ronnie won eight lee haney won eight arnold won seven let's take it back all the way to since since 1984 your winners are lee haney dorian yates ronnie coleman jay cutler dexter jay cutler again phil heath and now seanen. And I think most people know most of those names. I don't think that's any surprise. And that takes you all the way back to 1984. And then outside of that, you go earlier, and your names are Franco Colombo, Arnold Schwarzenegger,

Sergio Oliva, is that how you say it? Yeah, Olivia, yeah. And, I mean, Chris Dickerson. Yeah, I mean, at this point point we've named every olympia there's like three that maybe you don't know and other than that you know everyone you know yeah yeah it's it is a it is a unique sport in the way that the winners are crowned and how long they stick around but i didn't know sean roden i guess i and i'd never heard of him and the fact that he's also like let's find out how old he actually is.

He is 5'10". He's fairly tall as far as this stuff goes. Yeah. And he is 43 out of Jamaica. Oh, Jamaica. That's probably Jamaican's first winner. I would sure assume so. Jamaica's first winner.

How many countries have been represented even? USA, Jamaica. That's another good one. USA, Jamaica, Austria. I think Sergio is Cuba. Italy and Lebanon. Oh, yes, Lebanon. Dorian Yates is British.

Yeah, okay. That's the world of Olympians right there. A lot of USAs in there. Yeah, which, I mean, kind of makes sense. Yeah. There's a lot of fitness happening around these parts. No Canadian. Not yet.

There's always next year. There's always next year. Not yet. There's always next year. There's always next year. What did you think of Roden's look in comparison to Phil Heath's? What's Phil Heath's nickname? He has something. Oh, The Gift.

Oh, yeah, The Gift. What did you think about Flexitron versus The Gift? I mean, Flexitron has a little more of a superhero vibe to it. Yeah, but The Gift is... The Gift is The it. Yeah, but the gift is... The gift is the gift. Yeah. As far as looks go, like looking at them,

the biggest differences to me are one, he's taller. So he just has a slightly different look. Like some of these guys are like literally as wide as they are tall. Yeah.

But he is taller, so that does already make him look a little different. And then his midsection, like he was really like defined in his abs, like really small waist, which is something that's not the standard in bodybuilding these days.

Right. So that was what was immediately obvious. And then like his legs, you know, he had this, I would have never spotted this, but then reading things, it's like the feather in his quads and all this stuff. So like once you start to look at those finer points, like, yeah, he was, it was really impressive to see that but um phil heath is by no means a slot which like if he would have won it i would be like yeah i mean that's still a gift to me he's still

the gift i mean you don't just not be the gift no the way he wrapped that package this year i could still consider it a gift i'm sure a lot of people consider it a gift. I'm sure a lot of people consider it a gift. But so the difference in the look. So I don't know that Roden was smaller by definition, but he looked, like you said, more trim waist, a little bit of a better look. So is that potentially the transition that the sport's making? Is that what they said?

Is that next year now? Is that going to be like the package that people are bringing this more trim package but i don't know it'll be interesting to see like is this a fluke deal and then people are just going to keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger yeah or like is it going to get like rained in a little bit and you'll see more of this conditioning and yeah and all the stuff that goes with that because i can't see where it's gonna would make a huge dramatic change where it's not going to go back to where like yeah i mean like where arnold's and that's you know what's it classic physique yeah like that's where that exists now because that's that is a spot for that to live and thrive but i could see a smaller transition like this where that maybe this rodent's

physique is preferable because i think it potentially gives has a better look for the sport in general to the general public because everyone talks about the gut thing and like that's been pretty highly made fun of and kind of you know ridiculed so um maybe maybe they will try to adjust that over time and and just by selecting the winners that way that you know it effectively gets everyone to change their training and and dieting to make themselves look like that i guess or it could go big rami's direction where you just have things coming out of your legs his legs are so wide i wonder what his like it would be it would actually be really interesting

to know that and like how it matches up to someone against like a Brian Shaw or a Terry Hollins, like these guys that are just massively wide, like how that compares to it. He's really big. Yes. I don't know what he weighs there, but it's got to be a hefty number. Yeah, it's not a small number no i wonder too you know we talked about bodybuilding it's it's more political than these other sports like powerlifting and strongman and stuff and do you think there's any chance that like the powers

that be whoever's calling the shots and whoever's probably most importantly making the money in bodybuilding do you think that they felt like it could be in their best interest for phil heath to not win this one and make more of a drama for another year yeah yeah is it like now is next year the rematch yeah right or was like next or could next year have been like this is the actual record breaker yeah i mean there's it's just so hard to even know because what i had heard people say before prior to this is that they figured he was going to go for 10 straight so they so he could be go as forever be known as mr olympia x it does have a certain ring would go out on that and retire yeah but i don't know now you put like him or will or will he now

have now that he lost this year will he go on to win seven straight more and have the double seven p yeah there's a lot of ways you could spin this thing the gift is in the driver's seat either way that's true it's totally up to him what way he wants to take this thing yep that's right So that's pretty much what we know about bodybuilding. Stay tuned until next year when we give our high-level analysis once again. If you're really into bodybuilding, just stay tuned because anywhere from like 6 to 18 months, we may talk about it for 15 minutes again. Like I can't remember the last time we talked.

Was there any lifting that went on there that we i saw jeremy hornstra bench 650 yeah i did see that other than that i didn't really see any it looked really really easy yeah like it looks like 700 is probably the thing that shocked me is how fast he brings it to his chest yeah like it almost looks like it's in a free fall yeah and it stops i mean he doesn't bounce it either no it stops and it just goes yes which is exactly what you wanted to do stop and go so he's got that down but so it's not it's not like this expo isn't like the arnold so we're you know with with all these different strongmen and powerlifting events that we're really into so it would be interesting to go to the olympia someday oh yeah it's in vegas you know if uh any of the

organizers want to get us there and get some of our hard-hitting journalism on it we could interview these bodybuilders you know what we could interview phil the gift and flexitron and big rami get some real life measurements i'm sure they would love that uh the blade might even play probably there i assume the blade is there like handing out trophies yeah i don't think the blade ever leaves he's just there he's's a fixture. He won that one and he ain't giving it up, no. Do we have something new to talk about here, Tanner?

Some big lifts? This is probably something we'll shoot for on a weekly basis, I think. Is it big lifts? Big lifts. Lifting. as in lift. Lift.

It's one of our favorite words is lift. We put it on a lot of things. It has universal appeal. Yeah, but that's, I think, what we're going to call this is big lifts. And it's not going to be real in depth. We're just going to cover some of the biggest lifts that we noticed over the last week each week. In case you missed it. Yep, yep.

And we're probably going to miss some. It's not going to be a comprehensive. We will miss some. Yes. So don't feel offended if we did not mention your favorite lifters, Big Lift. Yeah, we're just doing the best we can here. Yeah. So the first one I noticed is Brandon Allen squatted 937 pounds,

and it looked really easy. The keyword here is fast. Yes, and that was my note. Brandon Allen squats 937 pounds and it looked really easy. The keyword here is fast. Yes and that was my note Brandon Allen squats 937 fast and that's probably that's getting up close to some of the heavier weight he's moved in training I don't know if there's a training PR or not. Off the top of your head do you remember what he did at the U.S. Open? I can't remember it's not not he hasn't done a thousand yet I don't I don't remember what it was for sure but but it moved really good. And the key thing to watch there is he's competing in big dogs here in October. It's October 14th.

Yeah, he did 975. Okay, okay. But I know he is a guy, he's coached by Chad Wesley Smith. He's a juggernaut guy. And Brandon is not a guy that's out there just randomly taking numbers and trying to do big lifts for Instagram and stuff like this is a it's all very calculated it's a calculated part of his training because he's getting really strong yes and I know I bet he has a feeling like he would

have loved to even do more than that on that day but his goal is to do the most he can on the platform and like there's money on the line for the meets that he does. Which should be most people's goals. Right, right, exactly. But it would be interesting to see. I know 1,000 pounds is in his mind for big dogs. So I'll be really curious to see if he gets that. Other thing to important note on Brandon is he walks all of his squats out. And he is the biggest believer in walked out squats and talks the most trash that I've ever heard about people that squat out of monolifts.

Like he dogs it really bad. So at Big Dogs, he will walk it out. Yes. He said he will walk it out. He said he and Andre will be the only ones to. Yeah. And he kind of wears that like a badge of honor. Yeah.

And he says the big thing is it's what everyone before. No one can put an asterisk next to you then when you're walking at all. There's not even – that discussion isn't even there anymore. His thing is it's a full power meet, and that's part of the powerlifting meet. And like he said, it's already – it can't be an easier sport to begin with. So like if you're taking away – I like someone having a little attitude on it. And he definitely does.

Too many people are like – especially at the high level, are like, eh, a squat's a squat. They're like, no, let's get some hard-hitting views here on this thing. No, he's got a good view on it. Then what was the next squat there? Another big one. Jezza. Yeah, Jezza. And I haven't seen much out of him for a while.

Yeah, it seems like he's been a little quieter, I'm sure, by I'm sure it's intentional. Yeah. He's kind of laying low with how the training's going. But, yeah, he squatted 970. Yeah. And it wasn't as fast as Brandon's, like, 937. It looked like he was working.

Yeah, and you have no idea, like, what the training volume has been like. So, I mean, he could be beat up. Right. He could be through a peak. Maybe he's going to squat 1050 or, you know, maybe he's going to push Ray or something. But as of right now, it seems like that's the only shot of anyone ever competing with Ray right on their best days so uh be interesting to see where that one goes did you see the next one the next one is the highlight of our big list for the week i think yeah if you have not seen this we haven't talked about this to check blaine sumner had a bit of a bit of an accident who

and like when i saw so i go on instagram and i see the the sensitive content yeah a little shield go up and as i'm blaine's posting'm like, before I even saw it, I'm like, all right, yep, he totally got crushed by 1,000 pounds. It was going to happen, and it happened this time. And then you watch it, and he squats. It's like, well, he's fine there. He hits it good like he would normally. Yeah, it's a fine like you would expect.

So it's like, okay, well, what the hell is going to happen then? And he takes his one step forward to kind of throw it into the rack, and the one side misses. He doesn't get it. I don't know if he doesn't get it high enough into the rack. And it's hard to tell from the camera angle and everything. But this is when things kind of start to blow up because the weight kind of rides the rack down.

And I don't know if something gets caught on, like, the bench hook on the combo rack. But then if you ever see Blaine train, he has these massive, like, boxes. Yeah. And the weight hits those things. Those go flying. The combo rack goes flying. And on first look, it's like, well, that looks like a disaster, but he's okay. Yeah.

And then he has the photo of his arm cut open, like the middle of his forearm. And it's like there's meat. Hamburger. He is made of hamburger. It was disturbing, I would say. Like if you were not. And I would assume the average person's arm when you cut them open doesn't look like that because they're one-tenth as thick as him. Right.

I did see he made the comment or something that the doctor mentioned something that it's lucky he's as big as he is otherwise that could have been like uh like just about cut his arm off if he didn't have as much meat on the bone as he does yeah it just looked like he was filleted open and the the meat it was weird it didn't look like there was blood no No, that was also, yeah. Like, I expected blood to be poured everywhere, and maybe it was because the photo was when it was all cleaned up. Right, right.

But I still, just the way that was open, you would expect blood to just be squirting out. It looked bad. Like, I was immediately like, oh, my God, is he going to have, like, what's his lifting future going to hold? And this is the interesting part, or where I'm curious where this is going to go, is he said, kind of gave the impression that this isn't going to slow him down.

He's going to keep training, yeah. And I don't know how you train around that. Like, that seems like, I mean, that is literally muscle. Like, I don't feel like things are. Well, how can he bench? That's what I don't get, how any of that works. How do you grab anything with your forearm filleted open? And not just anything, but like 1,000 pounds.

Yeah. Bench, or you know, 900 plus bench. So. That looked really bad. I was, you know, that looked bad. That was disturbing. I wouldn't necessarily look at it if you're not comfortable with that sort of thing. But if you do want to see the upper limits of what can happen yeah it is an interesting video yeah i mean i wonder if it makes him think twice at all about

his setup of uh you know lift you know he doesn't i know he lives at home so i don't know that he has a choice necessarily but like doing that huge those huge weights with uh i don't know spotters and yeah although had there been a spotter i don't know if it's that's one of those things it's so hard to even say it's so hard to even say or like if there was a monolith there i mean would the straps have saved him right you don't even really you don't even know all right exactly i don't know uh next on the list we have big joe sullivan yeah with a 535 bench yeah and the biggest thing on him is just all his lifts. He also had a really nice video wearing a lift shirt, squatting, while listening to Adele. A lot of people were more interested in why Adele was on than the actual lifting.

Than the actual squat. He's just been getting insanely strong on everything. But a 535 bench at his size and body weight is pretty impressive yeah very uh what's next uh larry wheels had a 500 pound seated shoulder press to the chest yeah and no well i mean larry wheels will probably be featured in big lifts he has a pr of some kind every single week. If you follow him on Instagram, you know that by now. Did you see the video of him doing that at all?

Yeah, I did. It's just crazy. Also, you never see people shoulder-pressing like that. I haven't ran across a lot of shoulder-press PR videos on Instagram lately, but he has all of them from what I can tell. But 500 pounds, I mean, obviously you'd say, how many people bench press 500 pounds, let alone? It's an exclusive club.

Jen Thompson just yesterday, I believe, benched 319.7 to set a new American record and an unofficial world record. Yeah. And that was at Bench Nationals, I think. And I still would not be surprised if she just chips that every meet for the rest of her life. I think that's what she does, right? I think so.

I feel like we've had this conversation somewhat regularly about how she's broken it by a pound and a pound or whatever the lightest chip they can do. I don't even know if it is a full pound. Well, and it's these different records too because she goes across a couple different weight classes you know she's broken records and then also it's full power versus uh bench only and then depending on some meets are qualify or some meets world records count other meets world records don't count which is kind of hard to wrap so this one

apparently the world record doesn't count i don't't know. I think because, yeah, I don't know. However that works. So, yeah, she has another record there. And Chris Duffin, he did a 900-pound deadlift in back-to-back sessions because why not, right? You know what they say, if you don't use it, you lose it. That's what caught my eye on this. Maybe had Chris Duffin just done a 900-pound deadlift, it wouldn't have made it into big lifts. But the fact that he said he did it in back-to-back sessions which that seems like that would take quite the

toll yeah yeah it definitely will so i wonder what we'll see next like what could you guys do out there this week that we could you could be featured in big lifts next week keep that in mind when you're training you could be featured in this audio segment. Totally flip your world upside down. Do we want to talk about the open powerlifting stat of the week? Yeah, I think it is time for the open powerlifting stat of the week. Probably

our fastest growing segment in the Nostomix podcast. Let me get to that real quick. Alright, here we go. We'll go over the very abbreviated version first. like I've said before, so we have a good sound clip on it. And then maybe we'll get into some more of the details. Yeah.

But here is the Open Powerlifting Stat of the Week on the Massonomics Podcast. We're looking at the women's raw world records. They are all really new. All of the women's raw records are really new. I don't doubt that really new every meet you here 49 out of 70 were set in 2017 or 2018 49 out of 70 of the potential world records are within the last two years yep that's uh they're newborn records they're just babies so that's the that's the 10,000-foot view of this stat.

So there are a couple other interesting pieces to go along with it that we can talk about. You can go in-depth really quick. I'm going to run off. Okay, sounds good. So like I said, they're all really new. The oldest record of any amount on the woman's side is from 2004. any amount on the woman's side is from 2004. And then after 2004, you have to take a jump all the way to 2011 to get to the next oldest, I guess.

So 2004, there's one. Then you go 2011, and then well over half are 2017 and 2018. Now, I do have some even more in depth, uh, statistics on that to compare it to the men's, which I think that gives you even, uh, um, it gives you a better comparison when you look at the men's also on the other side. So I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if these are still fairly new too, though.

They are, they are, they are pretty new too. And so the women's have 70 possible world records the men have 84 because there's more weight classes right so that's why the men have a few more uh weight uh a few more records in total but in 27 and 2018 there has been a combined 42 okay 42 of the 84 so yeah half so 50% are also within the last two years. In the women's, it's 65% in the last two years. In men's, 50%. And these are raw.

Okay. Across all federations. Right. All federations. And these are all-time world records. Yep. Half of the men's are within the last two years, that seems like a lot it does seem like a lot but it's not surprising just like we say just hop on instagram and someone has a meat record or a

gym lift of some kind that is blowing world records out of the water all the time yeah the men's oldest world record what year do you think that's from 80s 76 really and then you have to jump all the way to 83 to find another one 76 i don't know for sure what the 76 world record is i'd have to check on that then but then you jump all the way to 83 there's one more and then you go to 94 and there's one more through the and even through the 90s there there's only one, two, five, six. No, five. Five world records from the 90s. That are standing from the 90s.

Yeah. And even 2000 to 2010, how many do you think? But, okay, here's the thing as I think about this. From, say, 85 to 2010, there's no Raw world records because people weren't lifting Raw. Right. Everyone had switched to yeah that that's a one of the you know the pool of raw lifters was so small because nobody was competing that way it wasn't even a thing almost non-existent and that's you don't once you get to 2011 these raw records start to pop up which makes sense that's when raw really started to kind of make this right appearance um but it is you know in

the last two years it's really picked up in the men's and the women's there's really been an like it's really progressing is what it what it shows me yeah but women's big time the last two years and it is a trend up since 14 15 16 17 and 18 18, there's more in each year. So do you think next year we'll see that number go up even more? Probably. Yeah. And it brings up the debate, like, is powerlifting a mature sport if all of the records can be rewritten, like, every year, you know? I don't follow track and field close enough, but, like, in track and field, are most of the records can be rewritten like every year you know so yeah i don't follow track and field close enough but like in track and field are most of the records being rewritten like every single

year no no i i sure don't i don't and with that there might be arguments of well the records there were when steroids are more prevalent at times and there's probably a whole lot and this is what is a little unique about lifting is that steroids are fine. But just this year in 2018, which isn't even over yet, 41% of the female records have been broken. Yeah. And the men's side, just in 2018, 20%. So one-fifth of the records have been. Like in my head, that seems like something you should expect out of a sport that hasn't existed very long at all. Right, right.

But if you look at raw powerlifting. As a sport, a sport that hasn't existed very long at all right right but if you look at raw power lifting as a sport it kind of hasn't it hasn't even really been around 10 years right yeah and at least at least in this phase because you have to go back quite a ways before raw power lifting was the thing before you know before equipment started getting introduced yep so really it really isn't an old uh an old sport i guess um but that's that's kind of interesting that was a cool stat to see yeah that is be curious to see if if the trend does continue on that or not uh open power lifting though did you notice that this week they added in a uh a records page a records page, which I think that's really cool.

It is really cool. I would check it out. If you have any interest in records at all, I would check it out. Like right away, I'm just like, I want to know the best of the best. And if you just go down to total and look at the totals and you see Milanochev at the 308 plus with a 25-13 total, and then in second is that Peter Pet petris with 24 58 that's a pretty good size gap right there yeah and then uh dan bell's also tied on there but he must lose there's there's three guys tied oh at that 24 58 yeah actually oh yeah and that vlad is the

same exact thing 24 58 too but so they list the top three on each weight class for the world records, and Dan must be – I wonder if the tiebreaker is body weight is what they're using. I'd be curious to. You would assume. But it's – I didn't – before this was there on Open Powerlifting site, I didn't know that – I didn't feel like it was missing. But now that I see it, I'm like, oh, this is what it was missing. Yeah, like this is the page that matters right here.

Yeah, right. I think this is a really valuable page for them or something that a lot of people will be interested in looking at. I think so, yeah. I mean, the big names, I don't follow some of the smaller weight classes very close, so I don't know a lot of those people. is very close so i don't know a lot of those people but once you start to hit like 198 and you get like ben pollock and jesse norris and then going up yuri belkin tom martin kevin oak dan green's here eric lillybridge stan efforting like those are the names you like yeah you know the legendary names in the sport so it's just cool to kind of see how everyone ranks in here and that's just the actual totals themselves.

Because all this information was already there if you wanted to search through my weight class. It just took a little bit more work. Right. It wasn't so in this nice little spot to get it. So it's pretty cool. I'm glad they did that. And they have, so they have the records page has the top three rankings for total in each weight class, deadlift, full power, deadlift, all events, bench full power. All events would mean like a deadlift only, bench only. A bench only, a push pull.

Yep. Yep. So just any deadlift that's ever been performed. Go to deadliftfullpower.com and see where our friend Chris Wiest, I'm wondering where he falls in on the 308s. He is second. Yeah, second. Right behind Konstantin Konstantinov, which is pretty cool. That's pretty cool.

Ahead of the more commonly known Forsaken Warrior. Yeah. Yeah, that's surprising to see. I mean, just seeing some of these numbers. The other one I didn't know is that Mikhail Koklyaev has, in just all deadlifts of all time, has a 920-pound deadlift for third all time. I did not know that. In the 308 plus.

Magnuson is number one with his 1015. Andy Bolton's two with 964 and then kokliev is third with 920 yeah i didn't know he had that uh and then look at yuri in the 242 yeah 970 in a full power and i mean deadlift only two yeah oh yeah full power as he did that in full power yeah yeah yep it's pretty impressive when you see that. Yeah, so Benedict Magnusson's Big 1015 was just a deadlift event, wasn't it? Yep. But he did do what in full power?

He does have 975 in full power. Yeah. I didn't know that either. That's after squatting and benching. Let's see. I'm just looking at his numbers. Thanks for terrible air time. Wow, he has a lot of meets on here, though.

I didn't know he did that much actual powerlifting. For some reason, I thought he was kind of more of just like a deadlift guy. I don't know why. Yeah, but that shows how good the database is getting here. Oh, yeah, that meets from when he was 16 in here. Yeah, right. I mean, he meets regularly from 16 to 22. And then he took a little bit of a break.

Yeah. And then when he got into Strongman a little bit, too. Yeah. So maybe that's part of the reason with the gap there. Oh. But I like this. Like I said, it's a really cool addition to their page. Yeah, absolutely.

It's a good move. Otherwise, how about supporting open power lifting what are what are people's options uh if you want to support open power lifting and you should uh you can one follow them on facebook or instagram i would recommend instagram because it's just better for all things um otherwise you can uh get in contact with them shoot them an email shoot them a dm um you can see how you can help. Whatever special talents you might have, I'm sure they're open to hearing them. Otherwise, they always need people that can help out with the actual entry of the meets. I mean, that is the huge part of it.

There's a lot of meets out there that just need to be entered. And so if you have time and power to contribute, they would be more than happy for that. Otherwise, you can hop on their Patreon and you can contribute a few bucks a month. That also gives you the ability to customize how your name looks on the website. So if you browse through, you will see a few different people with some special looking names. That's how they're doing it. They are paid contributors.

Otherwise, you can also buy a t-shirt, Open Powerlifting shirt. I haven't done that yet, but I've been... I need to add that on my to-do list it takes a lot for me to buy something from someone online it takes a lot and i've really been thinking about this one for a while i'm gonna make it happen so i just have to think about something for a really long i mean if there's a brand you're going to support outside

of massonomics this is one of the best ones you could support yeah because they are doing something rather than just writing an Instagram page. Right, right. So, yeah, I would highly recommend it. That's been my thought process. I'm like, I will support them. Like, they are actually doing work. They're not just going to the gym and filming their sets.

Like, they are putting manpower behind this goal. That's a shirt I would wear pretty proudly. You know, important work meetings, things like that. Just crazy street cred wherever you go like oh you support open power lifting what's that what's power lifting is that bodybuilding well let me sit down this is gonna take a while um the uh this this weekend you did some competing tanner I did a thing and it wasn't your first bodybuilding show no it wasn't my first bodybuilding show

I did a competed in the Highland Games event this was I had to check my check back and actually see how many this has been that I've done this is my fourth I was going to guess four yeah four of the last five years I've competed in this same event here you've done it did you have you done it twice I've done I was gonna say i done two or three but i'm pretty sure it's just two yeah

because i i think two because you did the second and third year that i did it yep yep and then we nobody we didn't none of us did it last year and then i came back and then you had to get another one up on me this year yeah uh and yeah i'm not gonna go into the specific events. I'm not sure if our listeners are really privy to all the Highland Games, all the events, but just a really quick overview. There are nine events. So when you compete in Highland Games, it's kind of a long, it's an all-day thing. It is.

It is. Is that how they all are, or is this one? I think there are an abbreviated version where you do seven events okay and i don't know what they cut out i've heard that before uh but i've i've only competed at this one and it's always been all nine events okay my one suggestion on that is if they could change the sport three of the events have a complete repeat where you just it's all throwing events for those of you that don't know and the wait for distance the stone throw and the hammer throw all have a a light version and a heavy version and you do both which isn't really it

is a really interesting my suggestion is get rid of the do i don't care if you keep the light or you keep the heavy but just do it do one of each because it's a little repetitive yeah a little bit you just see people do one a little better than the other one yeah i guess good people do it a lot better than the other one but right i'm sure a purist would of the sport would be like no you can't do that you couldn't get rid of that but just in my if you were to modernize it i completely agree that would be a great way to get it down to six events get the whole process a little bit better but uh the one event that i did the best i ever had at this year that i actually had fun at for the first time was the caber actually the last time we did it i got it was was the first time i didn't hate it where i was like oh Oh, I kind of, kind of got this a couple of times.

You know, like the first few years without, well, what did you think of the caber the very first time? The very first time it sucked because you're so, you feel so uncoordinated. Like it's not, it's not really just like a test of strength. It is, it's a huge balance component to it. Yeah. And like general body awareness, you can't, if you're just going to muscle your way through it, you're not going to do good at all. No,

no, not at all. And this is the first year that I really had the pick. I picked every one perfectly where I popped them up and grabbed them. And that's everyone. And that is the foundation for setting up that whole movement. And because last year was the first year where I kind of got the concept and I was like,

well, now at this point you had four times to practice over five years so I'm averaging like every one point or you know every 14 or so months I get a practice session in but no I I was getting the pick perfectly so I made it to for the first time I made it to the heaviest caber too I've never done that before getting getting a go at the heaviest one the second i'm not going to get into the lengths and weights because i assume every single number in the world world is different anyways but uh i i flipped the second biggest one that we had or the second hardest one i i got not quite a perfect uh score on that but a pretty good flip out of it and i got three goes on the heaviest one

um and i got three good picks and then i got one i kind of screwed up and didn't get a good good attempt at the turn but i got two good attempts at the turn it just it was bigger and heavier and i'd never actually tried that one before so So it was more than I, with at least my skillset than I was capable of doing, you know? Yep. Like, I think if I practiced it once a month for a year, I could probably get where I could turn that one fairly consistently even.

But I was, I was stoked on that because that's normally event that I go into and I'm like, I don't want to do this. Like, and that kind of is, that kind of is the signature event of the Highland Games too. So to like have a good,

had to have a good day with that. It's just fun. Right. And it, and that is the cool event of the Highland Games, too. So to have a good day like that is just fun. Right. And that is the cool part because it's like that's the event that people recognize, I think. And it's like, oh, I'm kind of good at that. I can kind of do that one pretty well. So that was cool. But I suck at the wait for distance and the hammer. They could just get rid of those events.

I'm terrible at the hammer. All the technical events all the the technical events the more technical it gets the worse i am at it the more yeah i i wouldn't say i'm good by any means but one of my better events placing was the wait for distance actually like i did place fairly good in that one yeah because i've got to spin around with the weight six times in my life i guess now um i mean i'm still set it. Still any competition with anyone that knows what they're doing, I'm going to look like a total idiot. But in a group of people that have no clue what they're doing,

I'm slightly better than maybe the average one. I did have to go – this was the first year I had to compete in Class A. Because last time I won Class B. So I guess the rule is if you win – your class, you have to go in there. And there was, I think, six or seven in Class A this year. Normally at this local, our local one, it's not that. There's not really anyone in class. Yeah, if anything won.

So a group of Canadian Highland Games athletes came. So one of them that was in the Class A, he is the number one ranked amateur in Canada. Which is pretty cool. So he's pretty good. Some elite level competition at this thing. They all come with like full, almost like a tackle box, only it's huge. Like it's like the size of half of this table that they pull on wheels. And it's got their different tackies and all their equipment and stuff like that stuff like that and it's got you know they got hate brand good stickers on

canadian stickers and there's also a top 15 ranked uh u.s amateur there who he was a cut above the rest he was a cut above even the canadian amateurs where i've never seen anyone compete like this where they're that good at all the events and that proficient at them so that was it was it was fun i guess my point is it was fun watching these people i mean even though they're beating the shit out of me and everything it was just it was it was cool to see that you know that they're that good i think i ended up getting i ended up getting fourth, a loss to the Canadian number one and the, uh,

uh, um, U S number 15. Assume you feel so stupid. I was like, I kind of got done. I was like, Oh,

surprised I did that. Well, you know, and then I, I was not even the best Tanner in, uh, Oh, you were the second best Tanner.

Wow. Cause the other one got third and best tanner. Oh, you were the second best tanner. Wow. Because the other one got third, and I got fourth. That's depressing. And he's 19, and I'm 31. So I'm probably not going to be catching him. You're all washed up. Probably not going to be making much ground on him in Highland Games. But to kind of show the carryover here, these people performing,

well, I don't know about the Canadian guys, but these other people, they are college throwers, right? Yeah, I mean, the guy that was the best one, the one that's nationally ranked here in the United States, he was a nationally competitive college thrower. You know, he's got set college records at least at his school. And, you know, yes x like very very i mean this one he should be that much better that than us at throwing events that's what he

did for you know trained that for 15 years and it was one of the best at it yeah um and we lift we lift yeah that is the best way to put it i think but it does it's funny, though, what just the lifting can get you a little bit. It gets you in the door for sure. Yeah, it does, especially on certain events where it's like, we don't know what we're doing, but we just lift. And if you're just strong enough, you can still kind of do some of the stuff. And just with the tiniest bit. It takes the tiniest bit of practice for us to get better, too.

Oh, and it's not like a five percent improvement it's like 25 to 50 improvement like if i went out next weekend into the highland games event i would do much better than this weekend just because of that actual yeah without a doubt yeah but it's fun on the other hand some of the guys that do well i can tell and by talking to them i know that they don't lift that much. No. But they're technically proficient at those events. Which also shows, so you don't have to spend a ton of time lifting either.

Right. You can just focus on the technique and skill. But my argument to that would be that if you took that same person, made them that technically proficient, and also then got them stronger, they would be way better. There's no doubt about that. But I'm not going to judge them because they're better than me anyway. But what you're saying is,

just go and do a Highland Games. It is a fun way to spend a day. It's not insanely fun. It's not like, oh my God, that was fun. Let's do it again. You will be a little wore out and stuff. But when it's over, you'll kind of be like, well, God, that was fun let's do it again yeah yeah it will be a little wore out and stuff but uh when it's over you'll kind of be like well god that was over you know but that was fun glad i did it you know yeah uh but it is fun it's it's cool and uh probably the best part is i got to

spread the word of massonomics i which i got to do what i love the good word is spread the word of massonomics probably Probably the most important thing. That is. That's really what it all comes down to at the end of the day. Wore my lift shirt with my kilt. Looked pretty good, I think. Talked to some people about my lift shirt and about massonomics. Talked about the podcast.

Wow. Probably gained a few listeners out of it. And something also cool that happens now, people that i don't know who they are prior to that come up and say that they listen to the podcast you know that's always cool and that happens so that's that's a cool thing like oh i check that out you know yep yep that's fun when that does happen it doesn't happen all the time but maybe someday it will yeah oh it's so close to happening all the time i think but uh we probably did gain a few listeners out of it at least one probably i would say at least one probably and he did say he's

gonna tell his friend oh okay so maybe two yeah we're lucky i mean he's probably if he's anything like us he doesn't have that many friends so yeah two yeah yeah awesome but um so we do do things sometimes too other than just record the podcast you know not very often sometimes yeah well we're uh getting down to the end tanner is it down to the nitty-gritty we are getting down to the nitty-gritty of it all one uh as we were talking about brandon allen i thought about it i've been listening to um i started listening to the brocast which is brandon allen and andy huang's podcast there's maybe about 20 episodes out give or take yeah and i really like it it's not not in for you know it's it's it's pretty uh if you know anything about Brandon Allen and the way he talks and the way he is about things. It's like what you would kind of expect.

But I just think it's kind of funny. It's entertaining. Yeah, it's funny and it entertains it. So if you never have listened to the broadcast, I would recommend it. You're giving it this week's recommendation? Yeah, it's funny. I just like hearing him BS about just what he's got going on in his daily life. And I leave thinking, man, there's really people that live like that.

He's like that. That's really what he's like. And it is good entertainment. But I think that's about it. Does that have us wrapped up? That has us wrapped up. This package is wrapped up. All right.

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