Massenomics Podcast - Ep.133: Big Dogs & USAPL Nationals Recap

Episode Date: October 22, 2018

By now you have probably already seen the results of Big Dogs 3 & USAPL Nationals, but you haven't heard the Massenomics take on what went down yet!  We cover the highs, the lows, and we talk out of our asses for a bit.. as per usual.

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No, you should know. If you don't know, then you'll never know. We were talking about, before we started, we were talking about our own training and how nobody probably cares about our own training. But what did you do today that you haven't done for a while? Well, today I squatted for the first time in quite a while. Well, when I say quite a while, i mean just a little over a month yeah but i mean that's for someone that that being my favorite lift that is a little while you know yeah i would say it is um but yeah i just i had this my back had just been kind of bugging me

just a really minor tweak on a deadlift i i've done it before and in the past it was like just take it easy for a couple of weeks. I think everyone kind of goes through something like that with, with everything. You know, you have a lift that just something puts something, tweak something, take it easy. And that's exactly what I did. And super annoying. Oh, it's super annoying. Yeah. And that's exactly what I did. And then for some reason, this time it's just not really getting better it's daily life I'm I'm like 98 almost don't even notice it yeah in the gym most lifts I'm like 98 too basically don't notice it but then when it comes to squatting it's noticeable and when it comes

to deadlifting it just flares it up again and it's super annoying but um today you know hit hit uh squatting again i was getting pretty tired of belt squatting yeah like you know there's like there's only so much that you can do yeah and i'm glad i'm glad we had that right at least you can do it oh yeah if we didn't have that i might i do leg extensions and i don't know what yeah i would and i when you that, it's like, oh, this isn't doing anything. Yeah, I would go nuts doing that. So we were lucky we had the belt squat. Like, you can totally get, like, a quad workout in doing that. But, yeah, squat today, it felt good.

Like, I'm kind of excited about it. You did a couple plates. Yeah, just a couple plates. Was it noticeable in your back at all? No, no, not at all. And that's kind of been the thing is like squat didn't bother it too bad in the first place but i just thought like okay we'll just remove compression completely and that should speed things up and that seems to have had no effect so we'll just take dead lift out of the

equation for just a little bit now yeah because i'd say you've been careful careful uh not to pick the scab at all so yeah that's the thing too it's like i've done that certainly done that for months and months on end before yep and, and I think everyone can say they're guilty of that at some point. Like, oh, I think this is okay. And then you hurt yourself again. I think this is okay. You hurt yourself again. And so I just wanted to be really cautious with that.

I don't know. So are you just going to slowly increase on the squats? I think so, yeah. I think I'll just kind of go with a little bit of a linear progression here. You did 225 this week, like not five. So just a plate on. Just put a plate on each week, you know. Linear progression.

Yeah. But no, I'll probably just take it easy. It's circular progression. Like one full circle on each side each week. Yep. And just like that, I'll be squatting over five plates again no time. Yep. But it hasn't bothered your bench really too much?

No, and I can bench fine. I mean, that's – like on a heavier day, I might feel it a little bit, but it's not like the next day I'm not like feeling, oh, what happened? You know, it's nothing like that. Yeah, would you say that you can bench heavy? And, you know, I don't want to like make any crazy claims, but since the bench shirt has been out bench has felt pretty good for me so coincidence or causation correlation you know what they say big pecs cash checks that's

right i don't know exactly what it means you would be the judge yeah get one and you'll find out for yourself that's right we do have the bench shirt and uh every size available still from uh extra small all the way up to 3xl but some of the sizes are getting down there yep yep and we do have a plan in the works for those of you that are uh larger than 3xl and we've said that these shirts run slightly small so even if you're a a normal 3xl that this 3x that we have might be a little on the small side for you but we do i think have a tentative plan in place that soon we'll have larger sizes than that we're scheming over here we got to get those big boys taken care of yes uh what do we

what everything we've talked about so far is just we're just purely ad-libbing this but just like freestyle like eminem on the mic over here eight mile days just just doing it that's about how good we are yeah uh but what did what were we going to cover we had a couple things a couple pretty pretty big things yeah i think the first one you know we talked about it for a whole episode was the big dogs meet yep so it's only right that we uh that we bring people up to speed on Alba. We did the preview, so we better do the review. The recap, yeah, the review.

There we go. So first of all, I'd say I watched the live stream. It started at... Had you watched it ever before? No, nope, never watched it before. I've only caught highlights of it, and unfortunately, this weekend, I had a lot of stuff to do. I would have loved to watch it, but it didn't work out that way for me. Squat started at, I don't know if it was like 6 or 7 or something like that, and I was like,

well, it is Saturday night. That's not terribly late for me, so I started watching it on my phone, and then I was like, well, this is way too small, so I got out my iPad, which I rarely use. I was like, this is a time when I could use my iPad that's right yeah so I busted it out and started watching it and seven o'clock is borderline getting a little late for me on on a Saturday night but like it wasn't fully late yet so I kind of watched through the squats uh and then like by the time there's kind of a break in between, obviously between bench squat and bench.

And then I, I watched through the bench and by that time it was like 11 o'clock when it was over and I gave up then I was like, there's no way I can wait, wait for the deadlift. So, and then I had realized, well, it's, it's recorded here. I can just, so I was up early with, uh, with our baby in the morning. So I watched the deadlifts at like 5 a.m then oh next day yeah because i was like oh and i didn't go through instagram at all because i wanted to watch it like it was like like i was actually excited to see who was winning and not i made sure not to even open instagram in that amount of time that's the way to do it but the

live feed was really good i think i don't know. If someone else thinks different, you let me know. But to me, the live feed was like probably not an A+, but an A. And that's, for someone that doesn't watch it, that is one of the things that I feel you see a lot is people say the live feed is probably the best in the business. I was, I didn't know it was good. Like, I didn't know that that's what it was like. And I was shocked. It was kind of like I was watching a show. An actual sporting event. It it was good. Like, I didn't know that that's what it was like. And I was shocked. It was kind of like I was watching a show.

An actual sporting event. It was really good. And it wasn't cutting out. And they had a lot of, like, the on-screen graphics that they'd pull up in between attempts, what people are doing. And they'd go back to, like, instant replays all the time. what people are doing and they'd go back to like instant replays all the time they had an mc who was literally walking around like walking around the uh he stood up the whole time and it was you know walking around the monolith or walking by the bench and um you know he's talking live to the crowd there it's in an auditorium looking thing and he's also emceeing to the live broadcast

also and he did a really good job i mean he was up there talking for hours and he it's not easy to do no and it was good i just i just did not know it was that good i mean i'm sure they put a good amount of money into that it was definitely like a production company that did what they did there because he'd ask them like oh could you pull this up on the screen and then they'd oh and it would just be? And then they'd have it right on the screen. Like it was legit. They have to spend a lot of money on it. Well, and even for someone that hasn't seen a ton besides the highlights,

even like the venue looks cool, like the backdrop and like the monolith, like nothing is like just accidentally a cut. Like things are the color they want them to be. Yeah, it was super cool. Like I can tell. I've heard it from the people that have competed in that meet before. They say how professional that is of an event, like how you are treated like a professional if you're a lifter there. And I could really see it having watched it now. It's, I would say, you know, USAP Nationals, which went on this week, they also do a good job of, of doing that, I think, but I don't know.

Big dogs was really impressed me the way that they run it. Yeah. And I think big dogs also has it in its favor that what do they have? Nine lifters that they have to just dial in on and make this as good as possible. Yes. Whereas like the USAPL, they're always going to be kind of shooting themselves in the foot because

they have to try and somehow make this production work for however many hundreds of people. Yeah. And then keep the commentary interesting or the graphic. in the foot because they have to try and somehow make this production work for however many hundreds of people yeah and then keep the commentary interesting or the graphic like there's just so much going on i don't know if that will ever be but i don't see how it could ever be of the quality that big dogs is unless they're dumping stupid amounts of money into it yeah one other couple other just notes off the top peter petrus iras, I hadn't followed him a lot before. I hadn't either. He, even compared to all these other guys, compared to Eric Lillibridge, Odell,

compared to Brandon Allen, Sean Doyle, is enormous. He's really, really wide, isn't he? He is wide and tall and big and his arms and shoulders. Like, his upper body is, I mean, he kind of looks like eric lillibridge only look he looks like he weighs 50 more pounds than eric lillibridge like he looks like eric lillibridge looks enormously massive without a doubt and this pet when i saw him come out for his first few scots squats i was like oh my god if like this guy makes these other guys look small legitimately if he doesn't win like just having seen him i immediately uh knew that i had underestimated or not not

understood exactly how good he how he how good he would be um but yeah i don't know squat wise should we go into full recap yeah yeah maybe we should actually cover the results of what happened. So the first one would probably be to talk about would be the, and I think we touched on this last week, was the heavy favorite, or some people's favorite, my favorite, totally guessing, was... Milanochev. Milanochev, yes. And he, for whatever reason, hurt, sick, something, didn't make it.

So already that kind of shakes things up because you assume even on his worst day, he's going to be in the top three. Yeah. There was some controversy about that, though, because some people said he tore a pec, but he lifted the week before in Russia in a WRPS meet. Yeah, benched like 500 or something. So, yeah, it's weird circumstances. We don't know.

But, so, yeah, now we're down to nine competitors and it leaves it open like it definitely gives it was anyone's day and uh you know starting with squats just kind of looking at the the standings really quick here the number one odell the number one spot was fordell yeah with 1014 it was a good looking squat too odell uh i'd never watched him lift before obviously either but you kind of know how andre is how he seems like not real animated and like like pretty pretty calm and that's a lot like odell is super calm and collected like he's just there doing his thing yeah like he walks out and it's just no no hype that i saw just just pretty casual and it really made me uh like like him because I kind of like –

The people that don't have to be like a freak show to get some weights going. So I was like, oh, this guy. I got a lot of respect for this guy now. Yeah, I think that's cool too. Because, like, I mean that takes a lot to know yourself because a lot of people just go into default, like, psycho mode. Like that's the only way to move weight. Right. You know, like if you really are in tune with with yourself you might find out that that isn't the

optimal way for you yeah uh what who is the next best brandon allen i think 1008 yeah brandon allen that's his first thousand pound squad first ever as best before that was 975 and what's that progress over the course of six months yeah and it looked good yeah i think he could have squatted more than that potentially so it just seems like he's on the up and up right yeah and he weighed he said he weighed about 350 which is pretty damn heavy for him too you know so i think that helped you know that body weight so that was in his favor yeah yeah that's what he was doing that purposely and he said he within the week before he goes home he's gonna try to cut down 20 pounds just so the plane right like 350 was extremely uncomfortable for him

sure yeah uh what was who was after that third would have been eric lillybridge with 1003 that was on a second attempt he missed his third attempt which was like 1058 or something like that he got about halfway up and couldn't uh couldn't finish it okay but so so by missing that third he gave up 50 some pounds a lot of and we'll find out here in the standings you know it's hard to say for sure like that is because he would have taken a different deadlift attempt probably and but if he hits that squat like all of a sudden he's like right there at the very top of it yeah but yeah once you give up that 50 pounds like, all of a sudden he's, like, right there at the very top of it. But, yeah, once you give up that 50 pounds, like, you're kind of playing catch up a little bit.

Peter Petras, I think, was he next to. And the thing, his opening squat, he bailed on it. I did hear about it. I never saw the. Oh, yeah, I did see the footage of it, too. The spotters caught it. They did. Yeah, it was weird.

It was like 900 pounds. And I was like, I was footage of it too. The spotters caught it. They did. Yeah, it was weird. It was like 900 pounds. And I was like – I was watching when it happened. I was like, woo. Yeah. Like the middle back spotter had it like in – Yeah, he caught it in there. Yeah, and they caught it and it didn't – I don't think anyone got hurt other than probably it didn't feel good. The trust you have to have in all the other spots – because if you're the middle spotter and you do this,

you just – to think your arms aren't going to get ripped off and you'll never see them again with 900 or like both biceps will just blow out in the process yeah you all have to be trusting each other then but marcos he would come in and talk between uh between you know between squat and bench and between bench and deadlift they'd interview him a little bit to meet director and he said that he went after that happened he went back and told him you don't do you don't bail from a squat here you like you stay with it and you don't do that to our spotters again and kind of basically told him like you're not gonna be welcome back here if you don't do that and he said there was just probably some miscommunication and like um but he did he made it sound like he was very went back and it was

very clear to him that don't do that again yeah that was pretty crazy yeah which but if you do have like a spotting team that knows what they're doing you know if they're on it right away what's did they have did they have five guys two on each end i think so yeah like five guys can take a lot of weight off your back so assuming it's not absolute worst case scenario. Yeah. Like you can get saved in a hurry. Right. And those, I would say that spotting team is like as good as they come.

Yeah, they're not like just your random guys that you picked off the street. Right. Like, yeah, those guys could move some weight. Yeah. So that was kind of the squat. So Odell was leading going into it brandon was second eric was third and then yeah outside of that just squats range from 903 to nine sean doyle didn't take his third he squatted uh uh what is it 948 on a second and you could tell

i haven't heard him say anything but on his second he hurt his hamstring he finished the lift but you could walking away like he was had a bad limp and was grabbing his leg and that was a recurring theme for him uh for the rest of the rest of the evening i think then we jumped into bench and the highlights from that peter petras opened at 595 like which was well above everyone else's openers and that's well above almost everyone else's final final number and uh eric lillibridge was the second man to come out on bench and i just you know i obviously he's not known as an excellent bencher but that just really highlighted puts it into perspective like yeah where he gives up some he gives up some real weight on the bench press yes he does because when you look at it so his his final bench i don't know what attempt it was on but he ended with 529 and i don't know if that

was a second or third but outside of i mean that's as far as bench goes second to last right last place was 507 where most guys are 550 to almost 600 yep so yeah that is you know when you're making a run at these things that that is where he's giving up the most yeah for sure so that highlights to me how important it is that he missed that or you know him missing that 50 extra pounds on the squat really hurts because he gives it back up in the bench really fast yep i don't um otherwise petrus what finished with 617 i think i can't remember if that was a second or third but he is just massive on the bench press like it literally like he he looks huge it's like uh kareel serchev when he's on there you know it's just like yeah it looks like he's pushing a toy

around he's just so big fake weights brandon, I think, didn't bench as good as he was hoping to. He missed his second and came back and took that 567 and got it on his third. I don't know. It must have been a technical miss there. So going into the subtotals, I think Odell was in first at that point, and I think Petras was maybe in second, and Brandon Allen in third is the way that going into the deadlift where they're at. And then Lillibridge was, I think, in fourth, and Doyle in fifth.

So the deadlift, the number one takeaway from that is you know a lot of these guys they're enormous squatters and good benchers and you know i would say they're good yeah they're good deadlifters but it's like they when it comes to that third by the time that third one comes around a lot of them have a hard time hanging on to it uh many of them had chewed up their hands by their second attempt that you know they were walking away with like oh you know they could tell and the announcer kept saying that there's a lot of meat on that bar and a lot of meat on the ground from it uh but third attempts sean doyle was the only one out of all of them to successfully hit a third attempt deadlift which is surprising right and that was because the way his head worked

out he i think he he needed only like five more kilos after a second to move up a place to lock himself into fifth place instead of sixth but in order to move up up into fourth place he had to do like 25 or 30 more kilos so it would have been an enormous jump which is a big stretch probably right so he wanted he just took like the the money like literally because it was probably like a couple thousand dollars difference and took that five kilo jump and hit it which totally makes sense to me like this uh brandon allen when he was up he had the chance, if he would have hit that third attempt, which was like an 8.98 or 8.99, whatever it comes out to, it would have been good enough to get him first place.

He was in third, but if he would have got that, he would have moved all the way into first place. And as the way it turned out, he would have stayed, and it would have been enough to get him first place. He had it about two-thirds of the way up, three-fourths of the way up. Oh, it went really fast to his knees, like to the point it looked like, wow, this guy's going to pull 1,000 pounds. And then it just hit a wall and slowed down in a hurry.

Nothing left there. He was obviously pretty disappointed about that, I think, because that makes, you know, at the U.S. Open, he had it where he pulled the deadlift and basically locked it out and just couldn't quite hold it and missed the money there so what's interesting to me that he did that is he could have taken i don't know what what the difference was if it was maybe five or ten kilos less he could have gone second place but you never know how it's right i guess i don't know what

the order was but yeah you never know yeah never know. Yeah, I think there was still a chance. Are you just going to assume everyone's going to miss? Right. I don't think that's tough with that. Right, but he said he was there to win, so he was going for the win. But it cost him, I think, like $6,000 of getting third instead of second. Not saying that he would have gotten the attempt had he gone for it at second, but the way he did attempt looked it seems like there's a good chance he could have hit that yeah something a little less would have been there probably and

that i think that's a really interesting dynamic when you're making attempt selections not just based on the numbers but you're like how much money i could like whether i get this or don't could be a difference in five to ten thousand dollars today oh it adds a whole other element of uh strategy to this. Yeah, because it's – When you're not even concerned about PRs anymore. You're literally concerned about actual money. Right, and then it comes down to how you actually feel about money

because you're like – How much do I value? Which in the case of this, I would be going for – there's enough meets throughout the year where you can be focused on PRs. Yeah. It seems like if you're going to be going for the money, this or the U.S. Open is the time to do it. Right, but he was really going for the money.

He said, I want the $22,000. And I do think, to say you won big dogs is a pretty big achievement too. Right. Because Milanochev's the only person to ever win big dogs, right? Yeah, Milanochev has won both, and I think Doyle's gotten second both times. So the final standings is petrus ended up uh sneaking out past odell i think odell ripped up his hand and couldn't

take a third deadlift so he didn't even get to have a chance to so petrus with a 2469 total odell with in second with 2458 and then third was brandon allen was 2430 yep and brandon had never broken 2400 before so that was a pr and petrus is a pr i think he no one other than uh milanichev has a higher total all-time than him now that's the second highest total all-time 2469 is yeah yeah well it's the second highest per um oh you know i think the one that's not Milano-Chen. Yeah, yes, yes. If you'd consider that the second highest total all-time. I guess you would in the record books.

I think Petras would be second. And then Odell's probably tied with those other guys now then. Yeah, he's right there. Yeah, 24th, that's a big total. Yeah, and Lillard Bridge was Lillard Bridge fourth, Sean Doyle fifth. And then Dylan Hell Regal was an Australian guy. He's only 23 years old. He pulled a big deadlift, had a big squat,

ended up with 23.42. He seems like he could really be someone to watch, I would say. You would assume at 23 years old, yeah, that there's a future there for sure. Yeah. To me, looking at it, kind of the surprising thing, though, is not even an 880 deadlift. The biggest deadlift of the day was 876.

And that was that hell regal who was out of the running at that point, out of the chance of even a podium. They all missed their third. You know, they all attempted closer to that 80-80-900 range, but they all missed it. You know, Eric had a chance at something like that, and he missed it. Eric did pull for 900 on his last one, and he would have been the first person to squat over 1,000

and deadlift over 900. We talked about that, and he would have been the first person ever to do that in a competition. But I think that apparently we talked, we did mention that, that must just be really, really, really tough. Like on a person's body to. Oh yeah. Without a doubt. Well then how many people are actually capable of those two numbers? Any, I mean, you're talking about baby tops.

Yeah. Probably, probably closer to five that could ever have a whole right doing it right now yeah there's there's probably one two three maybe four four or five guys here and then maybe five more guys that weren't here that that are in that ballpark yeah that's big numbers yeah uh someone said uh talking about one of the uh one of the big dogs not doing well i heard someone say it say it that uh even a big dog can still get run over by a car yeah it's true it's true so where are we at on the kind we had the over under on three being the number of people that would not finish the meet so milanochev was

out yeah that's the shannon florison did he not i i don't know what the story was so i benched only for some reason call him another one that was was out and then i don't know if there's another person that dropped out or not so we were either at the number or under. Okay. So, Sean Doyle was hurt definitely, but he finished out and still put up a big number. Very respectable total. So, we were real close on that. Our predictions of winners, you had taken Milanochev, Lillibridge, Petras. Is that what I said? I think so.

I couldn't remember if I had Petras or Allen in third. I think you said Petras. Okay. And I said Lillibridge. I couldn't remember if I had Petras or Allen in third. I think you said Petras. Okay. And I said Lillard Bridge, Milanochev, Brandon Allen. So we each got one of the podium persons right. I guess Milanochev not being there makes that tricky because anyone would pick him, I think. And the fact that I've never seen Odell ever also makes it tricky to properly guess that. But looking at it, I looked at his meat history quick

and um i mean he has continued for 10 years straight he's basically improved every single year and i mean he's 39 years old now so he's not some young pup either you know right right um so that's pretty impressive to see that too uh marcos who i said he he talked in between them quite often i guess i wasn't even positive what he looked like but um he's not certainly not afraid to just call out whoever i had i'd read some that there was he was kind of throwing out some comments about people that aren't coming and aren't competing yes and one that um i'm pretty sure he he wouldn't name the name, but he was saying there's one American that he's not, he kind of was saying that he's chicken shit to come and compete against real people,

talking about his meat history, that he's never actually competed against anyone. And I had to look, and who he's talking about I'm pretty sure is James Searcy. Yes, I did see this actually. Because he never mentioned his name, but because he said that he's actually the record holder in one of the disciplines. Oh, really? And he is in the 308 squat.

He's done like a 1058 squat, I think is what it is. Yeah, 1058. Yeah, so that's who he's talking about. And he said he's only done five meets and he's never competed against any any real competition is what he said but i don't know what the history is there but he must not be a fan of him i guess yeah i'm just looking at i mean he's not very old either he's only 27 27 ish yeah um biggest total 23 64 yeah seems like a really good guy to be there lifting at this thing right uh one other thing is that marcos was wearing like a purse okay and i'm not like a

well is it a purse or was it one of the stylish fanny packs that people wear it wasn't a fanny pack it went well people wear fanny packs over their crossbody now. You've got to keep up with your trends, Tanner. It didn't look like a fanny pack to me. Here, here, here. You'll have to show me a picture. I'll do some Googling here quick for you. Whatever it was, to me it looked like a purse. Obviously, I'm not up on my fashion.

Did it resemble anything like this at all? It really went kitty it went kitty corner okay well people do that too though um here here one more quick picture yeah let's see another one and see if it's see what uh see those look like fanny packs to me yeah but it was like leather too well yeah you don't want to be wearing a cheap stupid one was it's kind of along the lines of something like that no it still looks more percy it was square oh oh so more like that yeah but it was like brown leather with leather straps okay these kind of still look a little bit like fanny packs yeah yeah like almost like bag like small bags that you wear. And his looked like, I'd say if anything,

it looked maybe a little bit more like some Indiana Jones. Satchel or something? Yeah, like more like a satchel maybe. But to me, it was a man purse. And he was running around with this on? Yeah. And you thought there was some Australian thing? Well, and I'm not like Australian,

and maybe that's the cultural thing there. But that to me, i would not be wearing what that and i do i do not care for that well it's kind of the in thing now tanner the old crossbody fanny pack and just think about all the extra stuff you can carry on you know that's true and he was like reaching in his phone out of there all the time and be pretty nice i went to that is not a sacrifice or that you're ready to go for it? No, I don't think I could do it. Introduce that into the office fashion.

Do we want to move into our stat of the week? Oh, we should if I can pull that up here. Our open powerlifting stat of the week, you say? Well, if you have other ones, too, I'm open to hearing those. you say well if you have other ones too i'm open i'm open to hearing those oh our power lifting watch hasn't been part getting us stats of the week like like they had said that they're not like our good friends over at open power lifting no no power lifting watch i think that guy's probably still in trouble for whatever the diddling situation was um okay so the open power lifting stat of the week on the massonomics podcast the world's

strongest podcast we're looking at the men's all-time raw deadlift strength range so i think this is all men across all classes and we're we're seeing uh under 400 400 500 500 600 uh what percentage of people lie in those ranges in all deadlifts. So under 400 is 25% of the male lifters. Okay. 400 to 500 is our biggest one at 30.7%. That's the most that fall in that range. You said 400 to 500?

Yep. Or 400 to 499. Oh, yeah. And then 500 to 599 is 29.8%. And then there's a pretty good drop-off when you go $600 to $699 is 11.9%. Huge drop-off when you go $700 to $799 is 2.3%. $800 to $899 is 0.3%. $900 to $999 is 0.02%. And $1,000 plus is Benedict Magnusson.

Wow. I always like when those end with just a person's name at the end. Yeah, that's cool. So Tanner, you, by gym lifts, are in the 2%? The 2.31. Do you feel pretty elite right now? Not really. No.

It's weird how that works when you look at it on a stat like that. It's like, well, that's pretty good, I guess, in comparison to the masses. But we always say it, how by watching people on the internet, how you get completely like decentralized. Well, the funny thing is like 700 plus makes up 2% of all deadlifts performed. But on Instagram, it makes up 90% of all deadlifts performed but on instagram it makes up 90 of all videos recorded and the thing is that's 700 to 799 yeah so i'm in the same group that's like 799 yeah a lot more than the 700 even that i did yeah you know like but you would never know for if you

just gave someone a phone and said watch people lift weights right and then like said you then, like I said, from your takeaway, what silos do these people fall into? You would never in a million years guess that 7 to 799 is 2%. You'd be like, well, I'd guess the vast majority of people are under 499. Well, yeah. If you've been training for three years, you should be able to pull 700 by now, I think. And it's like, no no it still doesn't work like that but uh yeah because even 600 to 699 which it seems like you're always seeing people pull over 600 is just 11.9 percent yeah that's not many actually over 600 is just uh is under

15 percent of people it's like 14 percent of. And that's just still not that much. $5.99 is under it is three-fourths of everyone. Which, I mean, does kind of make sense, actually. Yeah. But it is just from watching all the freak shows, but you start to forget that. So it is nice to see that sometimes and be able to put in to

perspective where you really do fall yeah like oh that's not so bad yeah yeah it's not so bad makes me feel a little better about what which seems to be kind of ours the reality check yeah your weekly reality check yep uh so that is the open power lifting stat of the week on the massonomics podcast and thank you to Open Powerlifting for that. You can, I mean, we've already been using the site extensively on this episode to keep track of things. We use it almost every episode. We kind of do, actually. Because results don't get posted anywhere else.

I know. So you have to use them, which is great. Which is great. The Powerlifting Watch guy isn't getting us the results. Which is either. Just not doing it. No. What about the, do they still, they've got their Patreon?

Yeah, if you want to support them, you can send them a DM on Instagram, hop on the website. I'm sure you can get in touch with them there too. Instagram would be the easiest way, but you can help out with a whole list of things that I'm sure they could put you to work on. If you want to support them, you can also become a member of their Patreon, kick in some money, or you can buy a T-shirt

and show your open power lifting pride in the world. And Tanner, how are we coming to that? I haven't done it yet. I've still kind of got my fingers crossed. You're pretty busy at work, though. Well, that's true. I still kind of got my fingers crossed that someone is going to buy one and send me one. Okay.

We heard that you really want one of these but are too cheap to buy one. Maybe a Christmas present for one. I think that would be a pretty good Christmas present. I think most people that are into powerlifting, if they got an open powerlifting t-shirt, would be pretty happy about that. For sure. Well, we do a Christmas list. We do. That would be a good one. I think an open powerlifting a christmas list we do that good that would be

an open power lifting shirt might have to make a good item to have on the list because we like to get a variety of uh price range items that'll be good for that 20 25 range you know that could be a really nice stocking stuffer or just a great overall gift it works in a lot of situations that's true and you could even even if you do like uh what's it called where it's like white elephant or something like that that could be one of the really good you know a lot of situations that's true and you could even even if you do like uh what's it called where it's like white elephant or something like oh yeah that could be one of the really good you know a lot of them are are shitty and then some are good and that could be the one that people are like fighting over well or it'd be the family that no one knows what it is so you just got an awesome gift for yourself that works too right yeah that's true is that a rule that you can't take your own stuff

rope for white elephant um is are they anonymously given like you maybe you can't take your own stuff for White Elephant? Are they anonymously given? Like, maybe you would. I know that on the office, Kevin, I think, ended up with his. Oh, no. That was for Secret Santa. He drew his own name, and he never told anyone. Okay. So he had gotten himself a foot bath because he really wanted a foot bath.

And then Michael switched it to a White Elephant after everyone had gotten specific gifts for i i just know a few years ago i haven't done a whole lot of white elephant gift whatever you call it but a few years ago uh we did one for our family and ryan bought like the conjure like just like the worst most intense horror like blu-rays that you could ever get and one it's a blu-ray and not a lot of people have blu-ray players and then it's a family christmas and he got like seriously the the some of the scarier horror movies you get so everyone's like no i don't want these and he's like perfect i wanted them for myself anyways so i didn't know he was breaking the rules when he did that or that is if that's how it can go but is that the old switcheroo? I think so, yeah. The old switcheroo.

So that's that. Should we jump into one more meat recap while we're at it? We better. There was another pretty big meat going on. And that was USAPL Nationals. Yeah. USAPL Nationals is a little harder to track than something like Big Dogs just because there's so much going on for so long. Yeah what was it five days i think so like i can't even keep

track of how many days it is because there's so much lifting right um there was a lot of cool things that came out of there there were it's just it is a little tougher to track them all down and keep up with everything i think the big one and i know for me the one i was most excited about is like what's ray gonna do what's ray do? That's what it's always been. I know going into it, I had seen some discussion that, I think it's Ray's full-time job. He's a coach for a college football team. And so I had read some things that going into it,

like this isn't going to be his prime meet because he has a football game Saturday, I think. And then Saturday night he has to, or was it Sunday night? Sunday night he has a football game saturday i think and then saturday night he has or was it sunday night sunday night he has to lift and so it just puts him in like a real time crunch and i don't even know if training is optimal for him this time of year either um so i had heard some things that you know maybe don't expect your his best performance and it wasn't his best performance um the thing is is ray not having his best performance can still win by like almost 160 kilos like so yeah even i mean even on his not best day he's winning by over 300 pounds so right uh he ended with a oh kilos come on 2364 or

something i just okay so yeah his total is like 2364 the surprise probably the biggest surprise with him was on his first squat i don't know if he's ever done this he got he squatted just fine got to the top and at the top he kind of lost his balance and took a step back and so obviously not a good squat um i i'm sure he's never done that before no you know like that seems to be his thing is he he really comfortable, like, walking the way out and hanging on to it and everything. I guess even a big dog can still get run over by a car. I've heard that before. But he went on to bench 240.

So what's that? 240, 480. 530. Yeah, about 530. And then he deadlifted a little over 800. Yeah. 820-ish, I think. Yeah, something like that. So, I mean, overall, still a really solid day.30. Yeah, about 5.30. And then he deadlifted a little over 800. Yeah. 820-ish, I think. Yeah, something like that.

So, I mean, overall, still a really solid day. Right. Joseph Pena got third, actually. Yeah, Joseph Pena. And I'd never heard of this guy, Jason Mike, I believe. Yeah. They both had a total of 917.5 kilos. That's probably right around 2,000-ish pounds.

Yeah. kilos that's probably right around 2 000 ish pounds yeah um but this jason mike one based on body weight which um you know kind of how that goes in these big meets like that yep uh other notable performances 264 is it safe to say we don't know anyone so looking at that not dennis cornelius is not in the game i don't know who these people are. And they have very respectable total. Like Matt Summer, or however you say his last name. A 9-10 total. There's nothing wrong with that. It's an awesome performance.

No, it's obviously a bunch of good lifters. We just don't follow closely enough to know. Jared Martin, Anthony Harris, Nathan Alexander. Never heard of any of them. Until now. So I have nothing to add to it uh maybe ones that we have heard of bonica brown oh yeah friend of the podcast continues her dominating performance in the 84 plus with a 662 total uh beating the next closest lady by about 70 kilos. Yeah.

And what did she squat? 265 kilos. 265. So that's 585. And the interesting thing is her deadlift was 250, and actually the lady that got second, Sarah Brenner, did 250.5 for the American record. So they must have been chipping each other there to go at that.

Yep. So, I mean, that lady, Ken Hang, she's right there with the deadlift, records so they must have been chipping each other there ah yep to go with that yep so i mean that lady can hang she's right there with the deadlift but yeah outside of that like bunika just has the whole package when it comes to that stuff yeah uh what other i don't know if you got them on there but i'd say a really big thing that came out is jen thompson friend of the mass did not win so she was going for 10th straight was it her 10th straight yeah american title yeah and uh the 10th or 11th either she'd i think i think it was the 10th one she was going for here ties but loses based on body weight right yeah do you know the

girl's name i'd never heard of her um it is here i'll find it right now so they had the same exact total then she still did break uh uh did she set a uh world record on the bench press she kind of sets a world record on the bench yeah i think she i think she chipped it again on her second one i believe okay and then i think on the third she went for a little more and ended up uh ended up finally missing on her third which is probably one of the first times she's missed a bench press in a really long time. And that kind of is what turned into the deciding factor on it. But I can't find it on here because, again,

this stuff is harder to find than it should be. Danielle Mello won again. So that one was actually a really interesting one because this Amanda Lawrence, had you been seeing much of her? So she's putting up stupid numbers, and she set the squat and the deadlift American record, but still managed to lose. Because she's given up almost 70 pounds on a bench press from Mello. So these girls, like Daniela Mello, she had a 227 squat, and Amanda Lawrence had a 238.

What's that? Like a little over 500? Yeah. Right around 500? Yeah. Which is insane. Yeah, like a 550. That's so much.

And I think they're both juniors, too. Yeah, I think that was like a 515 squat or something like that. Yeah, and they're both women juniors. Yeah. That's just hard to comprehend. They broke all the records. Yeah. Between the two of them.

Yeah, Mello takes the bench at 136, and that's where Amanda Lawrence is losing her ground here. Mello had 136, and Lawrence finished with 107.5. So, yeah, giving up a lot of weight there. But then a deadlift. Lawrence takes her again with 245. Mello, 238. Final total, Mello ends up winning by 10 kilos and well i would say judging by amanda lawrence's progress like that could be

really close next year but also mellows progress doesn't slow either so it i have no idea how that that's a 13 26 total to like yeah on an on an 84-kilo woman. So what's that? One, like, 70? Yeah. It's 185, I guess. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Still low.

Yeah. That's really, really impressive. I have a hard time wrapping my head around that. They're stronger than most guys that you know. Yeah, and it is drug tested federation yeah you know at the least it's drug tested so yeah i mean think of most people that you know that go to a gym like especially if they don't go to a powerlifting gym they're these girls are probably stronger than them and if they do go to a powerlifting gym these girls

are still probably stronger than that sometimes i think maybe some women take it insulting if if we say something like that and i I do not mean it that way. I just mean like most guys typically lift with like at our gym, what's there, 36 guys and two women? Right. So I just don't see enough women lifting to really comprehend it. And we don't mean that as a – Yeah, no.

It's literally like – It's just relating it to like what I know, which is other guys lifting. Exactly. And which it's better than most of the other guys lifting. I think it's better than most of them yeah i think it's awesome to see that like marissa into one again uh heather connor won again yep which they're going on quite a few years yeah seems like the women just really dominate the uh like the women that win their classes just dominate their classes kind of they do yeah uh taylor atwood i think he won his class and i put up

big numbers i uh i'm gonna be i'm off by like one placing here possibly but at the 73 men his total would have got him either second or third in the class above even in the uh i think he would i think it said he would have placed second with his total in the 83. He's that dominant. And the class above is a good class. Oh, yeah, that class is stacked, too. Orhees got first, and Sean Noriega got second. And they're all very competitive in that class.

What's funny is John Hack apparently throws smoke at those guys. He's always throwing in comments. And I can't tell if it's because they're like, oh, yeah, you're kind of like the OG here, and so it lets you get away with it. No, I've seen Russell talk trash back. I don't think they're buddies. Okay, see, I could tell for sure

what there was a post on either nine for nine or USAPL or both of them posted it where it was Sean Noriega and Russell Oryhee and like who's the battle of the 83s this was prior to the meet and like who's gonna win and the number one comment on there it had like 300 likes was John Hack and he goes remember that time I wish I could read it in quotes but it was the Adam Sandler quote from the the where Adam Sandler comes at halftime of the uh uh mud dog bowl or whatever and like they're doing a halftime speech and he's like remember that time the water boy showed up at halftime and the mud dog or the mud dogs won the super bowl or the national championship or whatever it is it was like remember that time John Hack showed up at USAPL Nationals

and took the mud dogs to first of the 83 kilo? And the way he worded it was really funny. But then they kind of went back and forth on that a little bit too. It'd be awesome to see him come back. I would love to see him come back. And then I see today he posted all these USAPL national things got me all excited, and he was in there deadlifting heavy. I'd like to see him come back.

Yeah, it'd be really cool. But at the same time, I can't blame him for wanting to win lots of money. Right. I would probably want to win lots of money if that was. Try to squeak some type of income out of the sport that doesn't get you anything. Right. That's most of the – Yeah, other than the 105 class for men, Eli Burks and Garrett Blevins.

What about Bryce Lewis? Bryce Lewis took kind of a me year, a personal time year, to just kind of chill and do his own thing, I guess. So he's not lifting at Worlds? He will not be doing – so he didn't own thing i guess so he's not lifting up he is not he will not be doing so he didn't do nationals so he's not doing worlds and he has i mean he has like so many posts about like sports psychology and all that stuff and yeah i guess he just felt like he needed a little break um garrett levin's didn't win so he was yeah so he was not there so eli burks and garrett levin's tied 870 total. Eli Burks won on body weight.

But, like, last year Garrett Blevins still got to go to Worlds. Yeah, because I think don't they take, like, an alternate or a backup always? Like, I think everyone gets, like, two nominations or something like that. So he might be in the running for that. I would imagine they both probably get to go. Yeah. Other big names there. This Joseph Amendola in that class. Ah, Danny's brother.

He had a 550 bench. Jesus. That's a really. He's crushing the competition in that. The next closest bench is Garrett Blevins, who I believe used to have the American record. Yeah, I think they battled at each other, like chipped each other back and forth.

Yeah, and Garrett Blevins on this, I don't know what the record actually was, but Garrett Blevins on this day, I don't know what the record actually was, but Garrett Blevins on this day benched.222, so what's that, like.460,.470? Yeah, or.480, is it more? Yeah. Somewhere around there. .480, isn't it? Yeah, somewhere around there.

Yeah, yeah. But, I mean, this guy's showing up with.550. Like almost.550 here. Dang. It might be five. What's 246? We'll get the exact number. That one's high enough that it's worth figuring out,

especially in the 105 class, right? Yeah. 246. 542. 542. That's got to be getting up there with benches for all classes in usa you know i know dennis cornelius is like yeah there's the one guy i can't think we saw him at the cage doesn't he bench like a little over 600 oh yeah i cannot think this is a big black guy yeah he's

like i thought you'd describe him yeah i don't i can't think of what his name is but oh is it athletics over yes yes yeah i think he does a little over 600, doesn't he? Yeah, because he called out on, we had the, our segment that we do on Instagram on Wednesday. Oh, Lifting Legends. He called out, it was Jim Williams, Jimmy Williams. He is the guy that. Was he the guy with the plaid shirt on or whatever? No, no, that was a different guy.

This was the guy that could dunk at 340 pounds and he could bench, like, first to bench, like, 675 or 700 or whatever it was. And he kind of called him out on the dunking thing because that guy is big in, like, doing athletic stuff. Yeah, he can dunk, I think, too. Yeah, and that's why and pretty crazy dunks and and he commented on there like well my stuff's all documented you know which

he does have a point he does have like he's not wrong no no not at all i just thought it was interesting and i hadn't really followed him before but i did a little looking at him and he's kind of a freak yeah i i can't imagine there's he has to be probably the only guy that can bench 600 plus and dunk i mean that that's not just like six you know yeah i wonder if kareel serchev could i mean he probably could he's he's uh but he's what six seven yeah whatever he is you would think he could so yeah he doesn't have to put up much of a vertical no to do that no and i'm sure i can only imagine what a basketball looks like in sergio's head like it has to look like nothing oh yeah like a tiny little just like child's

right toy ball right uh outside of that though i think we kind of covered the the biggest the best of the best when it comes to USAPL Nash. We saved you five days of watching with our expert coverage right now. Right. Yeah. Do you want to move on, Tanner? Is there anything else you want to talk about USAPLs? Or do we got you satisfied?

I think that's it. That's the meat. The meat and nothing but the meat. So, it's getting down there on time. Which means we need to talk about Big Lips this week. Some of our favorite segments. Fastest growing segment in the podcast world, I think, right now. Big Lips.

Should we save it? We'll save a certain one for last. Podcast world, I think right now, big lifts. We'll save a certain one for last. Massanomics friend, Chris Wiest, Unleash the Wiest, 8.55 for two on deadlift. That's a good performance right there. That is. That is very impressive. I don't even know what else to really add to that. No.

But it was kind of interesting the way he did it because he said that he likes to throw in a little bit of trash talking. Did he say trash talking? Yeah, maybe something like that. He got at the top of the second one. He called out Very We called out Forsaken Warrior. Was there anyone else? Those are the big two that I was thinking of. And, you know, I think he said just, you know, kind of getting everyone going, seeing what happens.

Yep. And coincidentally or not, Larry Wheels comes out with a – Yeah, his response. Larry Wheels, of course, hitting us, getting back into big lifts again. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so Larry Wheels... Larry was really worried about not being in big lifts for a week. Yeah, so for his first appearance in big lifts this week,

he does 8.55 for three on the deadlift, which, I don't know, has that been done more than a handful of times ever? I bet there's a really short list of people that have done that. And, I mean, there was no straps or anything, was it? Does Larry ever use straps? I don't know. I don't know if I've ever seen Larry use straps. He looked like he was maybe going to do a fourth one.

You could tell he was loaded for a fourth one. But I think he maybe could have done a fourth one, but it would have set him back a month probably. That would have been soul crushing on that one. Yeah, so Larry responds with the big deadlift it'd be interesting to see if these guys keep kind of pushing that a little bit i'd like to watch that go down yeah um i can't remember chris we second rep if it was a a touch and go or if he uh reset but you know larry's are very touch and go you know which i think they always are for him. Yeah, I think so, too. So it's basically cheating.

I mean, it really doesn't even count for one even at that point. Yeah, that's terrible. Just ignore everything we just said about him. It doesn't count. What else? Joe Sullivan benched 555 for one. Competition-style benching. Joe's been a reoccurring theme kind of in big yes right now too like does

he have a uh meet coming up pretty soon because i don't know when he's competing but he must because he's doing a lot of singles uh like i want to see what his total is going to be at a meet because it just seems like everything's moving in the direction it should be for right right uh we next we have a newcomer yeah to big list Never been in Big List before. This is kind of exciting. Brad Nightmoves, Night Soul. The old Nightmoves. They don't call them Nightmoves for no reason, ladies. They do not.

Brad's been on the Mastodonomics podcast before, too. Multiple times. He's competed in the Mastodonomics Strongman Showdown as well. We didn't let him deadlift in it because we didn't want him to make us all look stupid. Because we didn't have anyone to match up against yeah really is the real reason why yep uh but he deadlifted 800 for a double yep and brad's been getting really strong lately yes i think he's trying to make a run at uh strongman nationals here strongman nationals and hopefully qualify i believe for the arnold uh strongman classic amateur which just by looking

at him it looks like he's got uh i mean not like we know every amateur yeah but the pieces are they're coming into place for him i'd say his deadlift is salty i know as far as amateurs like he an 800 by 2 deadlift is there's no joke we're talking about larry wheels doing 855 by 3 and chris weiss doing 855 by 2 i mean granted that's 800 855 is still still a, there's still a difference there, but he's getting. Yeah. It's moving.

It's going, it's going in the right direction. Yeah. And I know he struggled in the past with maybe pressing, but that seems to really be coming along. So I would look for him to do some noise at. Yeah. I'm also excited to see where he's going to be at six months from now. Right.

I just hope he stays, you know, injury free. Healthy is the big one here. Yep from now. Right. I just hope he stays injury-free. Healthy is the big one here. Yep. Yep. So, Brad, just keep eating and sleeping. Yep. And keep doing your night moves thing. Keep those night moves up.

And then, you know, in true Big Lifts fashion, we can't talk about Larry just once, but twice. Big Lifts twice this week. And, you know, 855 times three is pretty ridiculous. Not a bad week. Yeah. But why not follow it up with benching 4.05 times 25? This is just ridiculous.

Yeah. Didn't he? Okay. Was it 2.25 the other week? For 70. For 70. Okay. I don't know what his 3.15 record is, but I suppose it's about 40.

I would assume that's the one he's got to do next because he's done two plates and four plates, so why wouldn't you just get a three-plate Amrap in there too? Yeah, and I know he's hammered out 500, kind of done an Amrap at around that 500 range. So, yeah, what's the over-under on his 315 reps? He did 70 at 225, 25 at 405. And it's not going to scale completely evenly.

Because there's a, what, 45 rep difference in there. So that'd be 22, 23 more. So if it was planted exactly in the middle, he'd be at like 47. And I don't think he can do 47. I'm thinking about 40. It's probably a pretty good line there. 40 reps. So he would do like 42, I think.

We'll see you next week on Big Rips. Yeah, I'm sure next week he'll do it. But how can you do that? Like every week. And just not feel like you're dying? I don't understand. He'll do it. But how can you do that every week? And just not feel like you're dying? I don't understand. How do your shoulders not just feel like they're never going to work again after that?

I don't understand. And the whatever list he's done for the 10 previous weeks going into that. Also makes you wonder, if Valeri didn't do some type of max out every week, would he be that much stronger right now even? Yeah. You would think, but also at the same time, it just seems like rules don't apply to him. No.

It does not seem to apply to him. It doesn't matter. That's why they call him Larry Wheels. Just keep doing your thing, Larry. I like it. Do we have the second fastest growing segment? The second most fan-loved segment of the podcast. We got best Instagram slash YouTube comment of the week. This week we're going to go to YouTube.

I think we went to Instagram last week. We're going to switch back over to YouTube. All right. That kind of prepares me for what the state of mind I need to get in for a YouTube comment. Some of the best comments come from YouTube. Oh, absolutely. You get some way more off the wall shit on youtube than instagram you get some kind of dumb ones on uh instagram but on youtube anything's possible anything goes yeah like i mean yeah there's just the the barrier for entries you kind of know how to use a keyboard yeah you're good to go and this one this one isn't in quite the same spirit

as some of our other best Instagram slash YouTube comments of the week, but this one popped out as funny to me. And this is on our interview at the Arnold this year with Big Terry Hollins. You know, he lost a bunch of weight and looked svelte. That's a good interview too. That video has been hitting these last couple weeks, getting a lot of views and a lot of comments. I saw that, yeah. Not sure where that's popping up at, but check that video out if you haven't.

It's a good interview with him. Probably the only time Terry will ever be interviewed by two people and not seem like he's as big as he really is. Especially in the picture when we angle him, right? Yeah, I don't know what your comment is, but if it's not this, I want to talk about this. I don't interpret this your comment is but if it's not this i want to i want to talk about this okay so and i i don't know interpret this comment how you will i have a couple different ways that might be meaning but i want to believe that it's how i want to interpret it here so this is on that

interview where it's tyler and i interviewing terry so terry is standing in the middle of us he's wearing a bright red shirt tyler and I are wearing the same Mastodonics Huge Life shirt. You know, the cover image is us two standing there. And we look good size compared to Terry. I mean, he's definitely bigger than you guys. Yes, but, you know, he doesn't make us look silly. Yep. Especially since he lost like 80 pounds.

The comment from Edith Calloway says, Three legends of the sport together. How awesome is that? I didn't see that one. And I'm just not exactly sure what she means. I don't know who that is. That'd be really cool if they're actually just a fan of Asinomics, so they're just hamming it up.

What I also wasn't sure is we did a few different interviews at that SBDd booth yeah so we interviewed say kaz and terry holland yeah and so we got a few interviews she could probably be referring to the series of interviews right right but i like to think of it better that she's referring to uh i do too i like that more too um there has been some other ridiculous comments one was pretty good and so this ties into just kind of the because most people don't understand that you know our well when tyler's in the mix too our heights range from like six one to like six six right and a lot of the guys that go to the gym are six foot plus two and most people aren't used to that i think in a gym setting

yeah so when you guys are interviewing him one of the comments on the on the bottom was i think how tall is Terry Hollins? He's listed at like 6'6", but someone's like, I'm sure that's an exaggeration. He's probably closer to like 6'1 or 2". No. It's like actually the two guys interviewing him are like 6'3 and 6'5". He's about the same height as Tyler, so 6'6 would make sense. Yeah, right in that 6'6 area.

To me. But it was funny to see people debating the height. I know firsthand that they're wrong when they were trying to think that he was under, I think they were guessing somewhere between 6'2 and 6'4. No, he's definitely 6'5, 6'6, I think, easily without question. The one other comment on that video that poked out to me, actually this was on the Kaz interview, which continues to get a lot of comments. He says, I think Bill meant PRP, not PCP.

Bill says something about PCP in there. He listened close. Yeah, and I think he did misspeak on that. He was meaning something else. And when we recorded this, we had a couple camera angles that we switched to. So the one is your main camera shot on your good camera. And the other one is the movie. It was the phone, actually.

So you can actually see you in some of those. And he goes, also, is that the back of Jujimufu's head? It is a little surprising I don't get called out on that more at the Arnold. But he is, upper body-wise, much bigger than me. He's pretty jacked. But I laughed because I knew right away what he was talking about. That is pretty funny. Jujimufu on the camera.

Yeah, Jujimufu is recording our Arnold interview for us. He's too much of a liability to be on screen. He wouldn't be able to hold still long enough. No, he'd be the worst cameraman ever. So that was our best Instagram and YouTube comments of the week. Mark another one off the list huh another one i don't know that we got any good uh podcast reviews to cover this week but that uh we'd like to change that for next week so if you could go give us a review on apple podcast

hope you could be five star yeah we've had some really good ones in the past too some that really make me laugh and uh that i really get a kick out pretty much anyone that comes through with them sets the bar really high so that actually might be scaring people away it's just the quality of reviews those guys are doing a really good job i'm assuming people are like sitting on these things like for weeks trying to craft the perfect thing so someone here's my challenge to you guys out there i want to see who can leave us the best one-word review. So you can only pick one word. Do one word,

but then do a few returns, and then write a word. Because I like a lot of words. Right. But I do want to see who can come up with the best one-word. So that puts a little pressure off of you. It could be amazing, or great, or something better than that

because I can't think of any good one words. PCP. Anything, really. So someone hit us up with a one-word review. The best one will not receive anything. So there you go. Does that bring us to about our? That is our time.

Okay. We kind of already talked about the bent shirt, but it never hurts to talk about the bent shirt more than once. We do have that available in every size for now, but we're running low on some of those. We're going to get some more ordered, but if you do want one, I would order one of those now. The lift shirt, we've gotten every size from extra small all the way to 4X.

So if you are that 4X guy... If you bought one a long time ago you're probably due for a second one that first one's probably getting a little chewed up so yeah we should have an order or this is important news the world's most expensive shorts i think that order is probably sitting on my doorstep right now so those should be restocked in all sizes very nice a good good amount of stock in all sizes the shirt that that I'm wearing, if you can look at it, is our Strongman Showdown shirt. We are down to about eight of those. So if you want one of those for only less than $12,

this is your final warning because they will be gone within about a week and we'll be off the site. So if you want to get yourself probably the cheapest piece of Massanomics gear that you can get get that's your opportunity uh anything else on the website we we redid our website so if you haven't been there for a while we will have maybe i mean maybe maybe not by the time you're hearing this but we will have a new little feature adding to the site sometime soon yeah a new main page we'll talk more about that at a different time but something that is actually exciting and kind of cool.

We usually tease with things that are complete bullshit, but that actually is kind of a cool new thing that we're going to be doing. There's a cool section coming, so yeah. And that's not just bullshit. That's the real deal. So stay tuned for that on the website. Probably subscribe to our newsletter. That's something that will probably kick out in our newsletter too once we get one going.

YouTube channel, we talked about it. Check out the arnold interviews and subscribe on the youtube channel all the podcast video is on there and we've been getting those uh 100 full in video lately so we're kind of on a hot streak there technical geniuses over here yeah facebook like us on facebook subscribe on facebook what do you say like i guess uh guess. Facebook. Do it. Yes. Do the Facebook thing. And then our Instagram handles. You can find me at Tomahawk underscore D. Check the Massanomics Instagram account, the official one, out at Massanomics.

Don't fall for the post. I was going to say, can I start the unofficial account? Massanomics. What would you name it? I would name it Massonomics Apparel, and then just keep liking, hey, like, peep the bio. Be first apparel. Just do that whole thing.

Love your page. Check us out. Hit us up with DMs. Great post. I'd do that whole thing. Yeah. So see you later. See you next time.

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