Massenomics Podcast - Ep.139: The Secret Discount Code

Episode Date: December 3, 2018

We hit you with a little bit of everything in this episode.. including the USAPL/IPF drug testing news, average age and weight data of powerlifters, and our Thanksgiving adventures.  You're going to want to listen to this whole episode if you want to find out the details on the deal of a lifetime. 

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Refreshing. Today, we're having a nice pompo mousse flavored LaCroix. That is a real flavor? It has parentheses grapefruit underneath the pumplemousse. Does it normally say that? I don't know. Weird. I'm not really sure.

Someone recommended it. You said lime was a... I like lime a lot. Someone said key lime. If you like lime, you need to try the key lime. Okay, maybe even a little sweeter. Yeah. A little tang at the end there. Yep.

If you thought the lime flavor was just a bursting sensation in your mouth you need to wait for this yeah kick you in the teeth yep uh so we are on episode 139 and we first thing i guess we could say is we wanted to shoot out a big thank you to everyone we just got through our big thing yeah our Black Friday, Small Business Saturday, Cyber Monday, all those. Greatest discount of all time. And what happened was we sold more Masonomic stuff in one day than we have ever in one day. More in a weekend than we ever have in a weekend. we have ever in one day you know more than we ever have in a weekend uh we had a lot of people that we we put our our lift short discount for 25 cents off each pair of lift shorts it was it

was a generous discount yeah i and granted we're you know it cost us a little bit on each order you know we weren't making much money after taking that 25 cents off. But we sold a lot of pairs, so that was pretty cool. We got to kind of sit back and watch the orders ding in on our phones. It's awesome. I mean, yeah, it's awesome because you're selling stuff, but we also had a lot of new stuff come out. And whenever you have something new come out, it's always, do people even care about this?

Like, are we totally guessing? Do we have any idea? I don't know. Let's see what happens. And so to have, one things and then two people like like the new things and like have positive comments about them like that that's exciting to see it is uh makes me think you know maybe we do know you guys a little bit right and i think we're getting getting our heads wrapped around that a little bit better of what does work well for us. After four and a half years of guessing, you get a few guesses kind of right once in a while.

Because we did have, say, something like our Mastinomics' Numero Uno shirt, which I thought when we made that, I was like, oh, this is awesome. Yeah, I was like, I love this shirt. It makes me laugh every time I look at it. And we probably ordered 50 of them and still have some around us. You can still buy one. Yeah, and the shirt,

I don't have any problem with the shirt. It's a nice shirt. And I still, if you're like, why doesn't it sell? I'd be like, I don't know. It was never a very popular shirt. No, it wasn't. I mean, I would say that

it doesn't have the universal appeal of a certain adult beverage, maybe, but there's certain things we'll never understand no that's right uh so we did come out with the three new sweatshirts uh that are all for sale now and we're watching the video you'll see tanner and i we both have this one sporting the eagle very proudly here yep the camo uh the lift in the crew neck, and then the, we don't have it here, but the bench heavy in the hoodie also. They're all really comfortable. Yeah. Sweatshirts are primo.

These things are nice. And we, like you said, we've sold some of all of them, so it is good to know that people want to buy them. As far as we know so far, we didn't totally mess up on any of them. People seem to take pretty positively to all of them yep and we're we kind of we talked about it earlier today but our timeline out uh we've spilled the beans already that we're going to the arnold and we have a booth there so everything that we're doing we're kind of trying to gauge and judge what exactly we're going to be needing to do for when we are at the Arnold so um this was an encouraging weekend I would say for that

as far as we're concerned where we're sitting because we already spent a bunch of money to have a booth at the Arnold without having any idea if anyone's gonna buy anything. Believe it or not those things aren't cheap no just no don't give them away so it it was a good sign for us to uh see that much stuff moving over just one weekend yeah and it's just it's just it's just fun like not the money side of it but just the uh to like actually get a reaction out of yeah right that that people are wanting to because here's the other thing too that that if you guys if you guys have ordered you've probably noticed if you haven't ordered, pay attention for when you do.

But when you buy stuff, there's a comments box. It just says order information, additional comments. Some people will put like, hey, I'm apartment whatever, or just something regarding the order. But then a fair amount of people

like to leave kind of a dumb comment or a story in there. And we love those things. Yeah, those are the best. If you guys see that in there, we got a lot of them over the weekend like just i mean they went from compliments to like stories to everything one guy was uh deployed overseas and he bought the what he bought like three different shirts and had them sent to his brother yep who is in the states and he he had had us leave him a special note for

his brother about which shirts he's allowed to touch and like if he touches touches his shirts then he's gonna get stabbed when he gets home or something like that you know so yeah we love that stuff when you guys leave that in there and seeing that makes it feel like oh okay these people get it we also gave away a lot of koozies and stickers over the weekend, too. And koozies and stickers are always fan favorites. I'm actually regretting that I forgot my koozie right now. This can is pretty cold, but if I have it up. Well, this basement's pretty cold, too, so I wouldn't be too worried if I were you.

Luckily, I've got this sweatshirt. There you go. Wrap it up. We've got more new apparel in the works. We just got this stuff out, but we already are working on doing more. Yeah. We've kind of been sitting on some ideas for a while, and now that we see, oh, people like them,

we should probably quit sitting on these things and get them out to the world. So, yeah, well, very early teaser, but there will be more coming. Yep, yep. So stay tuned in December here. We'll hopefully have some other new designs that you've never even seen before that are out for sale. So I'm excited about that again. It's going to be a good Christmas. And I, however, have a closet and drawers full of Masonomics clothing.

I could just go between laundry only wearing Masonomics things and then not even have to worry about doing laundry again and still be wearing Masonomics things. That is very true. And pair up my Masonomics things with Masonomics things. Take off my Masonomics sweatshirt and hat to reveal my Masonomics t-shirt underneath. Yep. Not a bad problem to have, though. No,'s good you know that's what i'm doing right now shows the dedication

i actually have this one paired up with the less keys shirt so shout out less keys yeah good choice also yeah shows shows you like strength i have put the less keys ones uh less keys shirt in my rotation of shirts it's it's on the top level of the drawer. That's the thing is once the shirt enters the top level, it's going to be there for a long time until either you go so deep on laundry or something weird happens and you start shaking things up. Something weird happens and like two years later you're like, wait, whatever happened to that shirt?

And then you find it and you're like, oh, yeah. I just had this the other day where I had actually got a really long time without lawn doing laundry uh-huh and uh i went in i'm like what happened to this shirt it's been here the whole time and it was only like five shirts below the normal rotation like it was but that's enough to just bury it to never be seen again yep um Yep. What is the USAPL news? I don't know if I fully understand it. So I haven't kept super up to date with this because it just seems like USAPL, IPF, there's always something to the point where it's almost like you guys are just shooting yourselves in the foot. This is getting annoying and old because the whole point of this is for people to lift weights. Right. Let's make this

as complicated as possible as we can and this is coming from someone that prefers to compete in us apl meets like it's just always something but um last week when i saw the post it was something along the lines of the ipf was upset with the usAPL about their drug testing, the actual testing, like the actual testing process. And I believe it was along the lines of they were upset because the USAPL wasn't sending all of their results to an actual like WADA certified lab. I believe what they were doing is sending it to third party labs that were, I think, running the WADA panel, like testing for the same things WADA does, but it wasn't actually WADA doing it. And so this was apparently a big no-no. And the people even, like at the USAPL meets, taking the samples.

Yeah, I think technically they even need to be. Like they're having USAPL judges do it, and you have to actually be like WADA. Like connected to WADA in some way. Yeah, right. Which seems like, wow, well, that will never work in a big country. I don't know how that ever could. Well, and USAPL, I know their goal, you know, disregarding this, was to test, or not even goal, it's what they did, I think,

was, you know, randomly test 10% of the people competing in every meet. So that's a decent chunk of people. Yeah, and I think that was kind of their argument is that we test more than anyone else. Like we spend more on testing than anyone else. Yeah. And now, well, so the whole story then is for IPF not being happy for how the USAPL is doing their testing is they, I believe, are just suspending USAPL is doing their testing is they,

I believe are just suspending all drug testing. Like drug testing is not happening. And I don't know, like I said, I haven't checked on this for a week. I don't know if anything's been determined since then, but at the time it was all drug testing is on hold. And anyone that's failed the drug test or is being suspended for failing a

drug test is welcome back in. So that seems so stupid. Like it's like in a Batmanman movie when like the joker breaks into and the jail's over all the cons like flood the streets like we're free so it would be actually it's almost just like okay yeah let's get some people be like screw it i don't care and then just go in and just destroy some records and be like, yep, IPF has to live with that now. I don't even know how that would. To me, if you just think about it logically, what is better?

Because considering the cost of the testing, they say the cost is going to be like 10 times more expensive per test to do the what's an actual WADA. And then on top of that, how many WADA officials can you get to a meet? How many WADA officials are going to come to a meet in South Dakota? Right. Yeah, the logistics of it don't make sense. Yeah. But then also, if it's 10 times more expensive, and if the USAPL is working off of the same budget that they were before, that means that...

It should be very obvious that, oh, this company does not exist. Well, yeah. I mean, it would mean that they were, or they're going to test one-tenth of the people that they were before. So instead of testing 10% of the lifters to the standards they are now, just have one percent to a really high standard yeah what's better like isn't because i think most people would agree before that the standard that they are using was at least um reasonably good like for what i know like i mean they caught people i think a lot of times they seem to give you i don't know the actual numbers but also give the impression that they test more than any other country.

Right. I mean, without a doubt in sheer volume of tests they do, but I think from a percentage standpoint, they also test a higher percentage than anyone else. So, so isn't testing a higher, testing 10 times as many to maybe just a slightly less to fit less official standard. Isn't that better? If you, if your goal is to be a drug free, uh, organization, isn't that better if your goal is to be a drug-free uh organization isn't that better than testing one person because then you're just like like someone can just be like well

what are the chances i'm not going to be the one in a hundred people that gets tested like i'll do whatever i want yeah that logic makes complete sense to me yeah i i this thing i don't think makes sense to any logical person but i suppose if you are the head of a political organization, that's goal is to maybe help lifters, maybe not. Maybe it makes more sense to you, but the whole thing just seems so backwards, and it seems like why are we even, like how is this even a conversation?

I think they even went as far as to say that I believe the USAPL's slogan is like the preferred drug-free power lifter. It's something they use the words drug-free in their slogan. And I think the IPF even said that we do not want you to use the words drug-free in your slogan anymore. Which, again, makes no sense. Oh, right. It's crazy. What would be funny is if, like, Larry Wheels and –

Like Ed Cohn comes back just to do one, just to be like – All these guys that are obviously – Like banned or in trouble for some reason. Just be like, well, what are you going to do about it? And just watch them, like, watch, yeah, just the whole thing crumble on itself. And we're talking USAPL. So USAPL Nationals would be in that conversation but then if you if you make you know if you qualified for worlds from ipf but then you'd be back into the wada

you would think yeah yeah assuming they're going to test you though but really like what is it you know i guess like the testing is important, but outside of, like, those people that actually are competitive at the national level, like, those are the people that need to be – like, if their goal is for the sport to look, like, official and everything, like, those are the key ones to be testing anyways, I think. Like, catching the people at the local meets, it's just like you're just – I don't know. To me, it's just like – I mean i don't know to me it's just i mean

yeah you might catch some people but they're not gonna make it no right these no-name people aren't gonna go anywhere you just got people doing things for no reason than to think that right for no good reason i mean really for no good reason yeah no good reason like i'm sure they have reasons themselves but uh yeah it's i don't know one of my favorite memes was like frustrated strength coach they have they always have i feel like very timely and relevant memes there's a lot of there's a lot of instagram accounts out there that make lifting memes and to very varying degrees of success um you know powerlifting motivation Success. Power lifting motivation. Yeah.

But, you know, some accounts have memes that are like, I don't even know if the people that run this account even lift. Or have ever competed or anything. Like, I think they just spend a lot of time on the internet. It's just a, you're making fun of sumo deadlifting. Oh, sumo deadlift meme. Classic. fun of sumo deadlifting or you know oh sumo deadlift meme classic oh oh benching in the curling in the squat rack meme never seen that one you know but frustrated strength coach and frustrated strength athlete they they yeah yeah they're both very good both excellent because you can tell oh these guys actually lift yeah and they get it. Yes, their hashtag is make powerlifting memes great again.

Yep. And they do. And I'm not saying we've never been guilty of not having a good meme. We've probably thrown some ones out there that are like, well. But I think we hit more than we miss. We have a lot of them. At the very least, we have some originality that most people can't see. Real recognizes real because both of those accounts follow our account and frequently share our stuff.

So they know that we're on the... And probably the biggest one, we don't take other people's memes and put our watermark on them. Never. I can honestly say, I don't think we've ever... I mean, it's tricky not to explain that. We use other stuff for our memes, but we don't use other memes to make our memes. Yeah, we don't take a meme that exists in its entirety and either crop off someone's name or put our name on it, which if you pay attention even for a second – and, again, we're getting more into this than most people ever care. more into this than most people will ever care but if you pay attention even for a second you'll see most of the big accounts will routinely rip their memes or their posts in general from someone else

yeah and then when that person complains they'll say something like well i'm a bigger account screw you what are you gonna do about it yeah which kind of sucks that that's what it comes to but and it just probably sounds like whiny internet drama but those are also the people that are getting their more eyes on the sport right and those are the people that i mean they're getting more eyes on the sport and they really don't care or even know much about it it's kind of the sad part right so um now that we've covered the intricacies of meme ripoffs well and here here's uh um something kind of this will be out by then we're going to post this before then and this this is something that we had talked about earlier this week. And this is one that we're going to post.

And it's basically just says knee sleeves have become the norm for raw squats. You know, it's acceptable in USAPL. Almost every federation has a knee sleeve division. And that's called raw. Yep. So the question is, should or when should elbow sleeves be allowed for the bench press and be considered raw? And why is there discrepancy between the two? If it really is considered raw and it's not helping you, then why should it even be an issue to not have them on bench?

Right. Like that logic does not hold up even for a second. No. So what is the reason that people, you know, why did knee sleeves come to be that people wear those in raw squats? The only thing I can think of is that knee sleeves have existed longer. I mean, elbow sleeves have been around, but I think the origins of them probably start from knee sleeves and people wearing them on their elbows, like in strongman situations, right? That's what I would consider elbow sleeves, and I'm by no means the expert on this, but I just think of seeing like, I don't know, like late 90s, early 2000s videos of guys with reband blue knee sleeves on their elbows. Yep, for sure.

But what is the, like when USAPL made their raw division and allowed knee sleeves to be worn, you it wasn't for it was basically like to keep the knee warm right yeah that was just i think it's just warmth comfort and just kind of general safety yeah i think that's all it was i think it's like really no different i think the reasoning there is no different than a wrist wrap you know it's just warmth safety longevity right lifter so why then for like isn't it providing the same thing in your elbow for a bench press i've wondered that or is the mechanics of the two lifts so different that uh in the case of your elbow joint in a bench that sleeve makes so much of a difference in comparison to your your knee on the squat should it though yeah i just i can't follow the logic there yeah

but i'd be really curious because i'm sure some people would love to hear they could have elbow sleeves. Well, I know a few people that would love if elbow sleeves were allowed in USAPL. Mark Bell, Reband, SPD. Like, imagine that. Their sales just double. Oh, SPD. And if I worked for SPD, I would be petitioning so hard to be like, come on, guys.

Because whether the lifters and other people wanted it to be legal or not, as soon as the day it is, there's not going to be anyone benching not wearing them. If you're allowed to have a piece of equipment that could potentially help you, why wouldn't you want it?

And if you could potentially get them as small as you possibly could and still put them on, why wouldn't you, right? So what is the reason that it's not then? Just because it hasn't been so it's not? All I can think of, the only thing that makes sense to me is it's just a historical thing. Elbow sleeves weren't, because did SBD even have their elbow sleeves 10 years ago? Probably not. No, I'm guessing. I think it's like what you said.

SBD didn't exist, right? It was basically just, it was kind of just like reband. Maybe Titan not. No, I'm guessing. I think it's like what you said. SPD didn't exist right. It was basically just, it was kind of just like re-band. Maybe Titan made like something. I don't know. Maybe. Yeah. I mean, it was, there wasn't a lot of players, players in town with that. And they're still not today either.

But. I think it's like an interesting, I mean, like, like I said, by the time you're listening or, or hearing this. I'd actually be really curious if someone has a reason for us. And when we post this, I'm going to make sure that all the heavy benchers out there, I'm going to tag as many of them as possible and try to get their feedback. And I'll be curious to hear what a lot of them say about it. I'm going to tag USAPL and...

And I'm even a little surprised. I get that IPF doesn't because they're the slowest and last and everything. But I'm still a little surprised that, like, even, you know, USPA or RPS or, like, one of these random federations or just, I shouldn't say random, just one of these other federations doesn't allow it. Well, and I could see... Because they allow hats and all types of stuff. Right. And I could see even USPA saying no, but then maybe, like, RPS and SPF and some of them being like, yeah, let's wear them. You guys might bench 20 more pounds.

You can have more bench press world record holders in your division or your federation. Why wouldn't you want that? Maybe no one's thought of it before. We're the first ones to ever come up with this. I mean, I'm sure people have thought about it but when you when you think about it i think you have to think about it in comparison to the knee sleeve and that's what really makes you be like huh yeah it's kind of like that if this is legal yeah then this should also be right like it just doesn't follow at all it doesn't

but i'm sure people out there will have some logical reasons why it shouldn't. I just don't. And it also brings up the argument of if this is raw powerlifting, why can we cover every part of our body in gear? But that's the – yeah, that is the question. But then like why our knee sleeves, you know. I know. Well, yeah.

So, yeah. It just – it turns into the thing. Where do you draw the line? Yeah. Wrist straps, belt, knee sleeves. Elbow sleeves. Elbow sleeves. I guess that's kind of it.

But still, it's a lot of stuff for raw power lifting. And I don't think that having wrist straps adds 20 pounds to your bench. That's what I was going to say. All those things you named, I don't think any of them make – It's a – like for me, really, if you said you can only use wrist straps for one lift, I would pick it for squat over bench. I feel like it's more comfortable to squat in my position, kind of a low bar, with elbows – or with – I keep saying elbows – with wrist straps

than it is in bench. I don't really notice it much in benching, but because they're allowed, why not? And at a certain point, it's just the routine. You're like, I wear them because I wear them. It's just kind of like part of how you get ready and just what you do. Right. But I often wonder to myself, what are the wrist wraps doing? I'm sure once you get to 500, it's probably, it's probably more obvious than when it's not, but

you know, when I'm repping things out on my best day in the low, low three hundreds, high two hundreds. Yeah. I strapped them on tight, but I don't know if that's really making a difference at all. I suppose at the end of the day, it feels more comfortable and you're less likely for injury. That's like, that's how I feel about knee sleeves in the squat. You know, it just feels better. And just like they originally came for, it keeps your knees warmer. It feels better. So I don't know if that's really less likely for injury, though, or not, but it does feel better.

Or when they start allowing those big, like, reband belts that strongmen wear underneath their normal belt. Is that going to happen ever? Because the day that happens, that's when your little lifters are literally a belt. Because those things are so big, you know? Their entire torso. Yeah. You're just all neoprene and leather. That's all you are.

But you know Mark Bell would be like, yes. Well, he'd be an idiot not to, though. And he's kind of a bench guy anyway. Right, right. It actually makes perfect sense for him. Yeah. Like if Mark Bell could start a powerlifting lobbyist group, he'd have guys right there petitioning to get that thing going.

Yep. What do you think about our stat of the week here? We do have an open powerlifting stat of the week. Is it educational? Yes, it is is it eye-opening it's a good one i think you're gonna like it and a lot of times we do the thing where i give you the the what it's about and you know i kind of shoot it to you to give me a guess this will be a good one for that i think all right hit me all right so the first uh thing we're

going to look at is average body weight and and just to recap this is the open power lifting stat of the week on the massonomics podcast um first first part of the stat we're going to look at is average body weight and and just to recap this is the open powerlifting stat of the week on the massonomics podcast um first first part of the stat we're going to look at average body weight of male competitors all male competitors in the database which is 629 638 wow um if a lifter's done eight meets then they're in there eight times you know it's they're getting counted count count every entry is in yeah so what do you think is the average weight in pounds of this is all equipment all federations i'm gonna guess about 198 pounds that's really close it's above the 200 markets it is 201.83 okay okay is the average of everyone in their database so the average is over 200 pounds fairly heavy it is fairly heavy i i thought even the 198 might have been a tad

heavy yeah that one it does seem heavy to me yeah but yeah i don't know you get the 400 pound guys that they really make up i mean that's like a little guy right that's true um all right now looking at female there are 187 120 entries what do you think that this is going to be way harder i mean for me the females infinitely times harder to guess because i don't even know i don't you could like line up 10 women and i'd probably be off by 30 pounds and one and get and upset most of them offend every one of them because i'm so bad at guessing weight average female weight yeah 135 150.04 okay so that was a little higher than what yeah what uh what your guess was there too but there again i don't know that's just really for the men i feel like we have context and can we have been following up but wow okay um so what those are the weights before we get to the next half of the stat um i would say kind of higher than what i what i would guess the the man the men one is a little believable the women

like i said you could have said 120 and i like I said, you could have said 120. I would have been like, yeah. You could have said 160. I would have been like, yeah, I suppose too. And I guess the most populated weight classes for men are usually like the one, someone that would weigh 200 pounds, like that weight class. I feel like it's between 180 and 220 is where most of your guys fall. And the average of that, 180, 220, is 200, so that kind of makes sense.

Wow, do you have a calculator in your brain or something, Tanner? Basically. Yeah, pretty much. So now we covered weight. Now we're going to look at age. And first we're going to start with the men. And for the men age, the weight. There were 600 and some thousand entries. Is this average, mean, or median?

Average. Oh, Sam's going mean on the lab. That's what threw me off. This is mode. Oh, God. Classic mix-up. For the age, there's only 400,000 in the database because not everyone reports the age.

But what do you guess for age age uh i'm gonna think i i'm pretty sure i know which side of the coin you're gonna i'm thinking early to mid 20s i'm gonna say 24 34. It is... Are you ready for this? Yes. You're not going to believe it. Let me hear it. 31.93.

Really? For the average age? Yeah. 31.93. That is how old I am right now. I am like 31.93 years old, something like that today. So the average age of the powerlifters is me. You're just totally

average too. Yeah. See that's surprising. So basically 32 years old is the average. Yeah, I'm having a hard time. I don't know. You could say that one, okay, not all age data is collected anyways. Right, so maybe that already Maybe the federations that aren't collecting versus the ones that are.

So that could skew it. And then also the results, depending on what they are, if they're more historical numbers, could just be older people. Right. Assuming that maybe newer ones aren't collecting it as much. Because it's safe to say that powerlifting is growing in popularity. So more diverse people would get in more recently. But also that would say that we're bringing the number up too. Right.

So that doesn't really hold up. I don't know. That's surprising. That one is surprising. Yeah. And my guess was that you were going to guess young on that one because that was my first I was actually like 32. Oh, it's probably pretty.

I was at first going to say like 18. Yeah. Because I feel like when I go to meets, I see a lot of really young people. I don't feel like I see a lot of, you know. I feel like you see a couple old people. Yeah. I don't know, man. Yeah.

That one's surprising. All right. Average female age, and this is out of 141,000. 28. 31. That's000. 28. 31. That's insane. About a year less. That was a trick question.

You didn't get me there. Okay. No, it's 31 again. That's, I guess. I guess. Yeah, it just seems kind of, I mean, it seems weird to say that it is old because it's how old I, you know, basically about, you know, in the ballpark of how old we are. But I just feel like, I don't know, it's weird.

Maybe there's a lot of masters lifters, you know, like same way with the weights. If you say 350-pound guys are really bringing up the average, maybe there's a good number of 55 year old. There must be. Well, here's the other thing too. Your first meet is always your youngest meet, obviously. Right. And then as you compete more, you're only adding more to that number.

Right. You know, I don't know how well that holds up, but yeah, that's kind of tricky to wrap your mind around even, you know. But yeah, I see what you're saying yeah so the longer that people stay in the in the sport you know yeah it's gonna get more entries and they're bigger numbers too so they're only gonna bring that average up right yeah so that's the open powerlifting stat of the week on the massonomics podcast uh presented to us by over powerlifting and delivered by us the massonomics podcast uh presented to us by over power lifting and

delivered by us the massonomics podcast thank you for power lifting yeah another another sweet stat of the week another real brain buster i did like that one though that was that uh that one did that did catch me off guard yeah old people big old people old people yeah who needs them did uh you know this weekend i got to run through a gym that i have never been to before oh i did that's right you did send uh so i went to i was in phoenix this weekend i talked about this very briefly on the last podcast and seeing some family down there and one of the the people said, Tommy, I want to show you my gym. Because people, oh, yeah, this guy obviously wants to know what gyms look like. So he knew that you're into gyms and you're kind of a connoisseur of gyms.

It was actually a lady member of the family. Oh, she knew you were into gyms. Yeah, she knew I was into gyms and stuff. So she's like, I want to show you. Okay, and I had no idea what the gym is. So we go down the road, and there is this massive building, and it's a Lifetime you. Okay. And I had no idea what the gym is. So we go down the road and there is this massive building and it's a lifetime fitness. Okay. And I've never been in a lifetime.

I'm aware of what lifetime is. You know, it's a very large chain in gyms. Bigger than the Massanomics gym franchise? Slightly bigger than Massanomics, but I don't think they have as big of a podcast presence as we do. I bet you're right. I would also bet that our Instagram is way more entertaining than theirs. I would agree. I would also bet that our Instagram is way more entertaining than theirs. I would agree. I would definitely agree.

So we pull up to the gym. I'm like, yeah, this is a very nice facility. Like, it's right away impressive from the outside. Get in, and it immediately has your commercial gym. Okay, this is what blew me away. And this is just, we're lucky enough to not have this, but you walk in, and it literally feels like every fitness supplement thing that they can sell you exists in the lobby. Like just stands of supplements right off of the main desk is a huge kitchen where they're making shakes and peddling their goods, whatever those are. I'm like, oh, okay, yeah, yeah. I i see how this is so you sat down and had a shake i'm like my people

so daddy's home i was i was a little surprised by just like how hard they're pushing the supplement game yeah and that's just how naive i am to the the greater fitness industry. And the next red flag was you go down the stairs, and the gym is upstairs, and there's a sign at the stairs that says no duffel bags allowed. And that's the other one you know immediately. What? It says no duffel bags allowed. What?

The only bags allowed upstairs are cinch packs. Oh, my gosh. So that was the other one. I was like, wow. That's right there is something that I feel like is blasphemy. Oh, my gosh. It is. It is the culture, totally. And then you go upstairs, and this is like where I realized, like, whoa, is the number, sheer number of cardio machines is – like, we get, like, some fitness books, like, when you have to order parts. Like, we'll get a book down in the gym of, you know, buy this treadmill for $12,000 or whatever the hell they are. And they have a line of 40 of them.

And they have a line of 40 of them, and it's not just a line. It's, like like 20 rows deep. It's just rows and rows and rows and rows, and it just goes. And I didn't walk around the whole upstairs, so I don't know if there was an extensive freeway area. I couldn't find any freeways from my – I mean, I saw actually an extensive row of Smith machines even. I'm not going to be the guy to say Smith machines are the worst thing ever.

For some people, they probably have their place. but i couldn't find any free weights from the area i was standing in so you weren't going to lift you were no i was it was literally just exploratory purely someone was like hey you need to just come see what this so i went and saw it and yeah very nice facility yeah it's well so it was bigger than massonomics gym or i would say i can easily say that the locker room costs more than massonomics gym or i would say i can easily say that the locker room costs more than massonomics gym has in it and all of its stuff tied like and actually the locker room easily has more square footage than the entire gym too you know it's just a whole other so was there tons and tons of people working out in there i really know that's what on the time. And it's a big place, but the parking lot was pretty full.

It was a Sunday morning after Thanksgiving. Maybe people are kind of trying to get on their New Year's resolution a little early. But the parking lot was fairly full. Even the person I went with was like, oh, normally not this full on a Sunday morning. But even when I got inside, didn't see a lot of people. But, you know, they have outdoor pool, indoor pool, multiple basketball courts, racquetball. I mean, people are probably everywhere, I'm sure. I wonder what they say about the superstores.

What a membership cost there. I think it was fairly cheap. I want to say like around $60-ish a month. Not bad. I'm sure they just have such a mass number of members. A place like that has to have thousands of them, especially in a bigger market. I can't imagine how many members they have that don't go. I would love to see the sheet for the number of active members that have not scanned in the last three months.

I'm sure it's an insulting number. Yeah, I bet it is. And they're probably like, yeah. Cha-ching, baby. Yes. But it's – So you said, this is my kind of place. You know, I'm sure for some people – and, you know, any gym – I still don't think 60 bucks is an unreasonable amount for almost anything.

No, especially if you're getting what you want. If it's a hobby of yours and you pay 60 bucks a month, like how many hobbies are 60 bucks a month? If it's a hobby of yours and you pay $60 a month, how many hobbies are $60 a month? Well, especially regardless of what kind of training and stuff you're into, it's like something you do that's hopefully going to make you better in some way. It's an investment. It's not just purely an expense. Right. After going through, I can safely say that that's not a place for me.

It's just it ain't for me. Did it? Could you have? And it's been so long that I've been in one of those situations that it's kind of like oh like it's just like a real eye opener could you have gone you know say there was a an area with the squat rack and stuff like could you have gone through do you think you could be in the routine of going through all that stuff and like getting there and being like all right now i'm going to i think i would have just been like kind of just i mean i could have i could have got a workout yeah i think i would have just been like kind of just – I mean I could have got a workout in if I had to. I think I would have just been so weirded out the whole time.

It's just like what's going on here? Like there was a really big open area and there was like six people that were kind of like just doing like body weight squats. I mean they were kind of hanging out. It was a pretty chill session, whatever they were doing. But yeah, it was interesting. You forget those exist and you also forget that is the majority when americans say gym when the person you know says going to the gym that's that's what they have in mind and it's so far from like to me that's like not even

the same sport like it's like if someone says i'm going to play basketball and they go like play like you're six foot ten and you go play with a bunch of middle school kids on like a like an eight foot hoop like well it's not really the sport it's not really the game we're doing here but because if someone to me says go into the gym i picture like you're like being like yeah like you're going in you're focused you're doing work like you have a game plan and i get it if you're staying healthy i'm not gonna knock it. Power lifting is not for everyone. It shouldn't be for everyone. It's just a whole different style. It's eye-opening.

Even a little entertaining, I guess. I guess what I'm trying to say is we really need to start that supplement superstore in the entryway. I think we've got room in the entryway. We could put up a rack of blenders or just cook it up shakes all day. Sometimes I bring all the old samples that I have sitting in my cabinet and set them on the counter.

I set them on the counter and say, free supplements. So now we need to start charging for those. For the five-year-old rock-hard nitric oxide booster or something like that. Something that's really going to take your workout to the next level. I also got to do one other thing while I was down there. And I feel like I got to run through the whole story because, did you ever watch the show Black Mirror on Netflix? No, I haven't seen it.

So Black Mirror is one of my all-time favorite shows. So Black Mirror is one of my all-time favorite shows. And just for the fact that it's so not that far away. It's a creepy version of the future where technology definitely has its ups, but in almost every episode, the way technology creeps into your life kind of ends up being the downfall of you or the situation. Are you saying it's not that outside of what it could actually be like? No, I mean, some of the episodes, like you can look it up online. I mean, some of the episodes are literally happening, right?

Like one of the episodes that's fairly, like it was talked about a decent amount, was kind of like a social currency where everything you do on a daily basis, every interaction you have with someone, you get ranked. Not too different than Instagram. You know, people are giving you thumbs up a daily basis. Every interaction you have with someone, you get ranked. Not too different than Instagram. People are giving you thumbs up, thumbs down. And based on your social currency, if you have a higher social currency score, your apartments and housing are cheaper. You have more opportunities. You have more job opportunities. I mean, your whole social world, everything, not just social, your actual money you pay for things is directly influenced by this.

And actually, China has now done something. Like, China's in the process of doing this to the point where, like, people with low enough scores aren't allowed to leave the country, not allowed to get, like, plane tickets. So, like, you're starting to see, like, the real things that, like, there are things coming to life from this. Yep. And you can watch any episode, and if you're with anyone that's halfway intelligent, you could, when it's done, look at each other and have a pretty good moral debate about where we're going with things and what's going to happen because these are all realistic things. But anyway, so lots of common thing in all the episodes is like self-driving cars. You know, we're not going to be driving in the future. I think most people agree on that.

Yeah. And that's pretty popular so the first thing that happens when we touch down is there's these we're going to the house and there's this van and it has all of these like cameras on top like lidar radar all their little things on the corners on the back on the front and it has this decal on it it says waymo i've never heard of this and apparently it's a big like self-driving thing i think it's kind of limited more to the phoenix market right now but it's a self-driving van and like there's someone there was a guy sitting behind the wheel but they're like yeah he doesn't do anything he just sits there in the van goes where it goes and i guess there was a um recently the van hit and killed

someone yeah so it was a it was a big and i i totally missed that i totally missed that yeah and so i guess they were just getting back on the street, and even our Lyft driver, which that in itself is, yeah, you use your phone, have someone take you somewhere in your Lyft, and I mean, that in itself is a whole thing. That didn't exist essentially five years ago. But Lyft driver was like, oh, I didn't know those were back. Well, on our way to the gym that next morning,

in the car, a round trip probably in the car, a little over 10 minutes, I think I saw like six of those things. I'm like, oh, things are really taking over. This is kind of cool, whatever's going on. So that's one part of it. Then we go down by ASU later that day. Is that by the University of Phoenix? It's more by Arizona State University. I mean, technically it's not super far from it.

So we go down by ASU. And are you familiar with bird scooters? No, I don't think so. Okay. So I was just subjected to these when I went to San Diego this summer. Are they the scooters that you drive around and just leave wherever you are? Yep, just leave wherever. You know how I'm familiar with them?

South Park? Yes. I didn't know the word bird scooter. Yeah, there's a few. There's like Bird, Lime. There's a couple different ones. And it's like in South Park, they're just like multiplying everywhere. But that is the thing.

That is the thing. Where are these scooters coming from? Down by campus, there's people on these things everywhere. And I'm like, it's like college. They're going like, these are little scooters, and they're going too deep on these things. And you know, like, everyone's drunk on them. They're just flying around. And, yeah, outside of bars, they're just piled up deep.

Well, it's like, okay, yeah, watching the things go by. And we kind of make our way around, down around campus. The game was going on, so there was a lot of people out. Did you use one at all? So we were at this bar, and then we're like,'re like ah you know we are like 10 blocks from the car and in front of our while we're sitting on the patio there's no lie probably 25 birds sitting there like we should probably do take those so there was like 10 of us what are they attached to any like no they just get on them it's just a kickstand and you scan your card so yeah we all sit there and again to like be like man we are living in the future right now

it's like okay take out your phone. Download the Bird app. It has to scan your driver's license. So you take a picture of the front and back of your driver's license. So it has that recorded. And then enter your credit card details like any app that has to charge you. And then on the Bird scooters, like on the top by the handlebars, there's a little QR code, which is like a little barcode.

The app has you scan that. I thought QR codes were dead. I actually think they kind of are making a little bit of a comeback. We'll see on that one. But, I mean, they are used for this. And I think actually your iPhone now, by default, recognizes them when you pull out the camera. Like, you don't need a separate app. But you get the app out, you scan it, immediately says it's $1 to start,

and I think it's $0.15 per minute is how it charges you after that which it's not very much which isn't bad and so we're like okay and you get on and you basically like when you push on a skateboard you need to give it about two or three good pushes to get the momentum going because i'm sure that's when it uses the most energy is to start up and then once you're going you hit the throttle it just takes off and it's like this is so fun. So it's battery-powered? They're all electric. But when do they get charged? We'll get to that part.

That's the part that I know. We'll get to that part. So you give it, like, two or three good pushes, hit the throttle, and you're going. And it's like, man, I'm having so much fun. Like, I haven't been on a scooter in, like, so long. And you're just flying around, and you're, like, going through these blocks, and all your friends are weaving in and out. It's like scooter gangs in full effect.

You're just, like, pretty soon around a side side street and we're all just doing loops around. Does it go like 10 miles an hour? I would say if you're lighter, it probably goes about 20. I was the heaviest one, so mine was the slowest. But I feel pretty comfortable saying I think I was going 15. It seems like there could be a safety concern. Oh, yeah, definitely, definitely. Because people are like flying around.

Yeah, people are flying around on the streets and i think part of the terms of use is that you say you're using a helmet you have a valid driver's license and all this stuff and yeah i'm sure most people aren't doing any i mean i didn't have a helmet on but right so yeah we're having a great time with it and yeah it was awesome and you know i had our 10 minutes of fun or whatever and you get done and you pull up the app and you hit end and it says all right take a picture of the scooter i think to verify that it's in working condition and you take a picture and i was charged two dollars and like 15 cents i'm like that was so worth it for two dollars and 15 cents like yeah and then just like that it's like uber on your map on the app on the phone it just shows everywhere that the scooters are they all over oh

they're everywhere down there and it also says when you leave it, it's like due to ASU policy, you're not allowed to leave these on campus. So I don't know if you get fined. Like the app knows that and you get fined for doing it. So were they on ASU campus? No, we were just on the perimeter of it, like on the bars around it. So what about on outside? Like if you go far enough, can you take it however far away you want to?

I think you can go wherever you want. And so these things, you just dump them. Like we got to the parking lot where our car was. You put the kickstand down and leave it. I mean, you're not some just crude. Yeah. But you know that happens too. Oh, yeah, definitely.

Drunk people are like, bleh. There was an Instagram account, Bird Graveyard, where it was just people taking pictures of them and destroying these things. But, you know, you put the kickstand down, you leave it up. You put the kickstand down, leave the thing just hanging out, take your picture of it, done. And we're all, like the general consensus was like, wow, that was really cool. So now the charging part, because they're all electric, is you can be a bird charger. And your job is you go around. And I actually had to look into this.

And I might have some of these details mixed around. charger and your job is you go around and i actually had to look into this yeah uh and i might have some of these details mixed around but the gist of it was that any time after 10 p.m you can go out and start picking these things up and you take them to your house to charge them and then in the morning i believe they have to be dropped off any time between like four and seven a.m dropped off where the app will tell you where to drop them off at i So it'll tell you where, and you need to drop them off in sets of three. The kickstand has to be down, and the wheel has to be turned out so they look kind of presentable like it was intentional. So that's why they actually do like –

So someone is – so people are – and then you get paid for doing that. And I was like, well, I mean, using electricity. The thing I read said the average bird to charge takes $0.07 of electricity. And then you make, I think, around $5 around five dollars so did you come across any dead ones I did not come across any dead ones yeah I just wonder how long they last yeah and I was even trying to like watching some YouTube videos on it and I got the impression I think it's like just to make like to cover cost on them I think they need to be in operation for about 20 days and at that point the things have basically covered cost and you're just yeah those things are just pure money at that point

it's another thing that because of geographically where we live that we will never have to like but i was almost like this would be cool just to own one personally like because it seems fairly well built i'm sure though they just get destroyed on the streets you know and it seemed to be holding up okay and they definitely got the power. I'm not sure if the battery lasts like an hour or two hours or what it is, but yeah, they were fun. So have you seen the South park episode? Yeah, I actually did.

That's like one of the only new ones I've seen. And it was funny because just the whole thing of like, where are they coming? They just keep multiplying and multiplying. But that's actually what it would be like. And it was also funny because where I stayed it was way away from asu it was more and i mean it's still it's still phoenix area so yeah it's big city but it's more definitely more of a little bit of more of a residential vibe and you'd still wake up in the morning and there'd be perfectly placed birds on the street corners like where the hell are they coming from that is crazy crazy. But so I was like kind of reflecting back on the trip.

I'm like, so we land in the airport. We pull up the app on our phone. Some random person picks us up, takes you to your destination. On the way there, I see this self-driving van. The next morning, I see more self-driving vans. Then I get tired of walking. I just pull up an app, download an app on my phone, get on the scooter, drive it wherever I want to. It magically charges me for

my use. I walk away and we're just like, that's the world we live in now. It's like five years ago, that whole conversation would have made no sense to anyone. And you did this all on the, on your iPhone 10. I do this all on my iPhone 10 R. And that is, I don't know if my old iPhone would have, would have made it through what I just said right there. It would have not had a good time. Mine doesn't even let me take pictures of my kids usually. Got to look into that, too. Yeah.

So, yeah, listening to podcasts, you know, just living my best life. Me and my iPhone, best friends going to the world. It is kind of crazy, though. Bird scooters. So so yeah i reckon if you see one i recommend you just now that the south park episode makes more sense to me now yeah knowing that that's really is what it's like speaking of south park we um what would that be called when you like uh um i mean we were kind of visionary yeah ahead of our time we You're almost like a psychic. You could even say it gave a sense of deja vu when it all happened. I don't know if it was the – it might have been the episode before or after the scooter episode.

It was right around that same time because I guess I did see that one too. Yeah, it came out that ManBearPig was back. And we had literally maybe a week before posted a ManBearPig, 8-Man Strong versus ManBearPig. And I thought, well, ManBearPig hasn't existed really for, what, 10 years now? Like, who, does anyone know this? Do they reference ManBearPig ever really after that episode? I don't, not that I really know of. You know, I think people kind of, you know, it was a pretty popular.

But that episode was probably close to 10 years old. Yeah, so if you were like 20, you might not even ever have known what that was you know either way south park has an episode where yeah it's al gore and global warming and the internet and man bear pig is essentially global warming because 10 years ago most a lot of people along with i believe the people that you know produce south park did not believe well and that's true you know the whole argument they're made are they're they're basically because yeah people are denying climate change yeah they make this monster that people also will just dismiss and it's like oh yeah well if you frame it that way yeah it's easy who's

gonna believe a half bear half man how big like right but i think even part of that episode is what they're saying is the original south park episode 10 years ago was making fun of al gore yeah and saying yes i think you're full of shit yep and this episode is the south park people coming out and being like yeah man bear pig was real bear pig is real yeah global warming was real and they're like we're wrong yeah that one that part when the guy's like sitting in the restaurant and he's like ManBearPig is real. Yeah, global warming was real. And they're like, we're wrong. That part when the guy's sitting in the restaurant and he's like, it's just not real. Talking about global warming, none of it's real. He's like, ManBearPig's behind – yeah, okay, none of this is real. And he keeps talking while ManBearPig is literally eating people.

And all the people are like, well, we might start to think about believing that it's real. It is like the perfect metaphor or whatever it is for it. But I think it's safe to say that episode exists because of us. It's a known fact that South Park will produce their episodes in a few days. And the fact that we produce a meme with ManBearPig, and then a few days later, ManBearPig exists on South Park, someone saw our meme. Half bear, half man, half pig.

Yep. Some people thought our fractions were wrong on that. They're wrong. They're wrong. That's what it is. That's right. We don't make the rules up. You just have to believe.

We just follow them. What do we got? What are we at? Do we got time for any of our world's most famous Masonomics segments? We're hitting a cool 53 minutes. Oh, I think we probably got time for some of the... We can just cruise

on a bird scooter right over to these next segments. And we'll just leave it there. Pick it back up next week. Do you want to talk about big lifts? Yeah, we could talk

about big lifts. The first one was Nick Best. And, you know, this was a few days ago now. Maybe it was even a week ago. But he, at over 50 years old, raw, he did, what, an 848 squat? Yeah. And he also, I believe, this could be something for open powerlifting to check on,

but I believe he had the largest raw total of anyone over 50 years old before. That'd be believable. Yeah. And the biggest squat. It definitely gets you well in your way. Right, and he can deadlift it. You know, he deadlifted, I'm sure, over 800 too. So, yeah, I think the largest.

So is that raw with wraps or just raw? I think that was raw. Raw, okay. Yeah. I believe that was a squat in sleeves, but I'll give myself about 50-50 if I'm right on that. I'll put it this way. It was either in sleeves or wraps.

More than likely. Yeah. It wasn't bear need, I'm pretty sure. But that's pretty impressive. Yeah. 50 years old. Really impressive. 50 years old.

Did he ever do Strongman? He does. He competes in World's Strongest Man. Yeah, that's probably more so what he's known for. I was going to say, that's what I feel like I know him from. He's an American. He lives in Las Vegas. But that's pretty cool.

Yeah, for sure. Who was the other one in Vegas? Amanda Lawrence with the 560 squat. Yeah. She did a big deadlift. I don't understand how. She's not like a newbie lifter. She doesn't have newbie gains.

How, like, she's not like a newbie lifter. She doesn't have newbie gains, but literally every video she's had since, like, leading up to USAPL Nationals. Has been a PR. Has been, like, a PR. And not just, like, a one-pound PR. I mean, she's, like, putting on, like, five pounds, ten pounds in a month on every lift. She deadlifted just recently. I thought it was, like, six plates or something like that. Like, 585. Ied just recently i thought it was like six plates or something like that like 585 i think so yeah it was very close to the r of and then i think

she had a video too like doing conventional pulls at 500 like i don't get how she progresses at that rate like it doesn't make sense right i just i can't wrap my head around what's going on there why she can get that strong i don't know i don't know what i'm doing wrong but she's pretty good at this sport yeah more than likely she's stronger than you listening right now yeah huh strong woman very made it in big lifts congratulations by the way amanda on making it to big lifts congrats it's good work keep it up you can make it again yeah and again and again yeah and at the way it's going i don't i going. I don't think that's unreasonable to say. Do we recover our comment of the week?

No. And I added a new one. But, yeah, we've never done the throwback comment of best Instagram slash YouTube comment of the week. We've never read the actual throwback comment. Oh, yeah, yeah. We got a little tied for time last time. This is a throwback because we're saying it's a throwback because it's not a

current comment, but this is the all-time greatest. This is number one. If there's a Mount Rushmore of our best Instagram slash YouTube comments of the week, this one would be George Washington. This would be all four. It would be. This would be all four. It would just be this comment.

It would be like the whole D.C. metro area with everything in it. Yes, it would be. So the comment, so you add $14 for a logo? Nah, I'm good with the plain ones. And it's so awesome that people have latched onto this. I mean, this has given us so much good stuff. And I think if you listen to the podcast, you kind of know what this is in reference to.

But just in case you don't, or if this is your first time, this is in reference to our Lyft shorts. This is the comment that sparked the Lyft shorts phenomenon. It is. I guess as it is. This is where it all started. The second sentence, there's two sentences there. My favorite is the second.

Nah, I'm good with the plain ones. And I like it when people start adding in like the every other letter. I don't know what you actually call that, but the every other letter capitalized. People will just randomly reply to our things. It won't even be the lift shorts, and they'll just say, nah, I'm good with the plain ones. The other day my wife goes, people are really mad about your shorts. No, it's a joke.

She's like, no, that person is not happy about it. No, you don't get it. And if that person even was serious about it, thank you. So that is our throwback. That's the the greatest ever bet uh instagram slash youtube comment of the week but we did have another one uh oh this is good this is on

instagram today okay on an older video of us a video from the podcast that was on instagram uh the comment goes i never saw a video of you guys before only audio of the podcast and thought you guys were 40 to 50 I'm disappointed you aren't old dad bod power lifters and that's at mehairslife sorry to disappoint I replied to him

I was like well we're on our way we're not getting any younger every day we are getting closer but no we're not that old we just we have these old weathered voices yeah someday if we're lucky we've been through a lot if we're lucky someday we'll be 40 to 50 make that dream a reality i like that good comment that was actually a good comment you know usually these are a joke but that was a good comment that was a good comment do we want to do over yeah we joke, but that was a good comment. That was a good comment.

Do we want to do overrated? Yeah, we'll do the overrated, underrated. Am I asking you these? I was going to ask you these. Well, can you read them or do you want to do it? I can maybe pull it up on mine too. I can even read them from there. Okay, okay. I mean, you'll see.

I'm not looking. No, I'm going to come into this with fresh. So this is our underrated or overrated segment. Just a few quick hard-hitting questions. Some have to do with lifting. Some do not. In case you're confused and how you should feel about certain things we'll make up the decision for you so overrated or underrated christmas music overrated overrated so hard that's i feel like that's probably i am okay and people will probably not like this i am okay with mariah carey's All I Want for Christmas is You,

which is probably the most overplayed of all of them. I'm fine with that one for whatever reason. All the other ones, like, nah, I get it. It's a Christmas song. I don't care about them. I went to the movie theater for the first time in, like, four years and saw The Grinch with my seven-year-old son. I was this close to being fully asleep during it. It wasn't that bad.

No, it wasn't that bad. I just, it was dark and, you know. Very comfortable. There's minimal screaming. There's a few parts that made me laugh on the Grinch. Okay. Underrated or overrated? Christmas lights on the exterior of your house.

Oh, I'm saying so overrated because I don't play that game. Me either. You know, the new thing now is the little projectors that light up on your, which is like the. I did agree. We do have one of those. I can handle that. I totally get because it's like the laziest attempt at Christmas lights ever.

Like, oh, I want lights, but I don't want anything associated with the work of Christmas lights. Bingo. So I'll just put this thing that just sprays light all over my walls to show people how festive I am. It's kind of tacky, I would say, and it's what I have. I'm not saying Christmas lights aren't tacky in general. Excellent point.

Very good point. Not very many times that just throwing lights all over something is considered, oh, it looks really good. It's like you just threw lights all over. Yeah, you put lights on all the straight lines of your house. Oh, the genius here. Overrated or underrated? Lifting chalk.

I'm going to say overrated because I think most people do not use it responsibly and use it in a way that they think is I mean is counterproductive to the chalk in the first place. It's like chalking up the bar, completely caking their hands, like getting it on everything like I mean as far

as grip, like the point of chalk is to assist your grip. And most of those things I just described do not assist your grip. They hinder it. So most people are just too stupid. Taking the knurling of the bar full of chalk. Yeah.

Oh, this knurling isn't biting hard enough? Let's fill in the cracks, smooth it out, and then it'll be better. So chalk is overrated. Pet peeve of mine, as a matter of fact. It's the dumbest thing. Chalk is overrated because most people don't know how to use it. Right. Chalk is good.

You're still saying chalk is a good thing. Oh, chalk is a great thing. It's just a matter of using it correctly. Yeah. Most people just don't know how to use it. Right. Chalk is good. You're still saying chalk is a good thing. Oh, chalk is a great thing. It's just a matter of using it correctly. Yeah, most people just don't know how to use it. Right. Overrated or underrated iPhone portrait mode? This is a hard one for me because I'm a camera guy. Yeah.

So I'm a camera guy. I'm going to say underrated because it's only going to get better. It's almost all software driven. It's only going to get better. I guess if it makes more pleasing photos for the world, who am I to judge? To turn us all into professional photographers. It kind of does. The purist in me says, no, you should learn how to use a real camera and do it.

But that's never going to happen. And so I guess if this gives the world more pretty pictures to look at and gets more people into photography, it's a win. So I'll say underrated. All right. Overrated or underrated, the new Mastanomics sweatshirts. Ooh, underrated hard. Severely underrated. Oh, man, yeah.

And to see how underrated they are, you should definitely buy one so that you can experience it firsthand and have that little hidden gem make all your friends jealous. Let's get them so popular that they actually become overrated. Yeah, I'd love to see that. Once you go into that Lifetime Fitness and they're next to the supplement stand, you'll know they're overrated. Last and possibly the most important on this list, underrated or overrated Jager bombs.

Okay. Five years ago, I would have said overrated for sure. Because you're saying five years ago, they were more popular. They were like everywhere. I can't remember the last time someone ordered a Jager bomb. I'm like, you don't even see a science form anymore. Typically. And do you say Jager Bomb?

I say Jager Bomb. Me too, but when I was just to make sure I was spelling that right, everyone was like Jager Bomb, and I don't. But I am going to say overrated still because they were probably too popular for too long. And I don't like paying eight dollars for a shot that is only a little bit liquor and then just like really expensive energy drink like you're just ripping yourself off so hard and around here we have something which is even more watered down we have chuck we have a chuck norris the midwest has chuck Chuck Norris shots and Chuck Norris is McGillicuddy's

Dr. McGillicuddy's I don't know what flavor I don't know what flavor of Dr. McGillicuddy's I was thinking the liquid ice the flavor is that what it is? Cherry Dr. McGillicuddy's

prepared the same way as any bomber shot which is like a liqueur it's like 15%. Right. Maybe 20%. But either way, it's not regular liquor, which is, okay, you're already getting ripped off. No, I think it's technically a liqueur. Yeah, it is.

Because it's so low alcohol by volume. So you buy that. And then instead of Red Bull like your Jagbomb, this is liquid ice energy drink, which I think also only exists in the Midwest. I don't know if I've ever seen anyone drink one. She was carrying around a liquid. I've never seen anyone actually have one besides with liquor. It could be the only reason their business exists is because it's in conjunction with liquor.

I want to know if they got into the- It was a smart marketing move. Whoever was- I bet they stumbled into it, though. Oh, it had to have been an accident. You know that they were trying to just make an energy drink. But then they heard about it, and they pushed that hard on all the bars. They made pollsters and just gave every bar a free pollster for Chuck Norris shots.

I can't remember where I was the first time that I found out that. Because, like you said, around here, there was a period of time where that's what everyone ordered. Whenever someone was getting a shot, it was Chuck Norris. I'm fairly certain that was most people, a lot of people's first bomber shot ever. No, we got the ingredients for that and made them. And we bought the cups. The bottle, yeah. And we just would make those.

Yeah, it wasn't unusual to see at parties. People always had those at house parties. We'd have like five, six of those, then go out because you're loaded on energy drink. You've had at least an energy drink. You've had like five shots of kind of alcohol that isn't strong enough to even offset the energy drink. So you're riding at least a caffeine buzz. Yeah, it's really a caffeine buzz. But those freaking shots.

I went somewhere else. And I was like, what do you mean? Like, Chuck Norris, going to have to explain this? Like, everyone has them everywhere. Nope, but they still cost the same as basically a Jagbomb. So, yeah, you're paying, like, I mean, in smaller towns, five or six bucks for, like, the shot with no alcohol. Go to a bigger city, you're paying, like, eight bucks,

ten bucks for a shot that is, I mean, if it's 15%, it's essentially a shot of wine, you know? And you just paid money for that. Yeah. It's more of an experience. Yeah, I just think drinks with energy drinks and alcohol with energy drinks, to me, are, for the most part, overrated. Yeah. I think the only acceptable place is...

What about a vodka Red Bull? I was going to say, the only acceptable one is vodka Red Bulls while in Vegas. Yeah. I don't know if they're acceptable outside of that. That's totally allowed there. But, yeah, you don't want to be putting down like six vodka Red Bulls. Like, what's your end game here, you know? There isn't one.

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