Massenomics Podcast - Ep.143: Larry Wheels' Secret Powerlifting Meet

Episode Date: December 31, 2018

Did you know Larry Wheels competed in a powerlifting meet earlier this month?  And do you know how it ended? We get into it.  We also recap the highs and lows for Massenomics in 2018, as well as dis...cuss what we think 2019 will look like for us. 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Massanomics, the world's strongest podcast. Find us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at Massanomics. Make sure you go visit massanomics.com. There you'll find the rest of our powerful content. While you're there, check out our store and buy yourself some of that sweet Massanomics gear. Welcome, listeners, to episode 143 of the World's Strongest Podcast, the Massanomics Podcast. Your two favorite Massanomics hosts are here again today, Tanner and Tommy.
Starting point is 00:00:34 What's up? How's it going, everyone? How was your Christmas, Tommy? You know, my Christmas, there was a lot of traveling. I went, I drove five hours one direction, got back, drove like an hour and a half another direction. So I did a lot of traveling, but it was good. A lot of traveling sounds like a LeBron James basketball game.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Or James Harden. I was going to say, James Harden seems more appropriate there. I was just thinking of any NBA basketball player. You're not completely wrong with that statement. James Harden kind of carries the ball, right? Well, did you see the last one? They had memes about it. It was like a week or two ago. He
Starting point is 00:01:07 took a hard two steps back. He probably carried like eight feet across the ground. He got behind the three and then they didn't call the travel and I think they actually called a foul on the guy
Starting point is 00:01:24 that guarded him. So, yeah, he came out ahead on that one for sure. Yeah, his thing is the Euro step, which that didn't really used to exist, I don't think. And, like, it was just they gave traveling a name so that they could not call it a travel, I guess. I'm not saying that he's not a great player. I think he is a really good player, and I'm sure I don't play basketball at all, but I'm sure it's an absolute nightmare to try and guard him. And he offensively can just destroy people. But it doesn't mean that he also doesn't, like, he makes it not fun to watch sometimes.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Yeah, yeah. If you're a Rockets fan, it's probably awesome. But as just someone that's like, hey, let's watch a game, like, with some action. Yeah. All the fouls that get called on him kind of tend to, like, break up the flow and make it not super fun. Yeah, he is good, though. He is, yeah. You did a lot of traveling. Did you get any gifts?
Starting point is 00:02:11 This year probably set the record for me for a number of gift cards. Oh, nice. Food places, coffee places, restaurants. It was gift card city. Did anyone give you any Mastanomics apparel for Christmas? I didn't get any very upsetting it's like no one even knows me yeah what about you did anyone get you any no no nobody got me any no one cares about our interests scumbags did uh did you get anything cool yeah i got a lot of i got like way more stuff than you know everyone like everyone's
Starting point is 00:02:42 always asking what you want for christmas and i'm always like i don't know nothing yeah that's kind of what i do too i'm not sure and for that being my only answer i got a like way more good stuff than uh you know way more than i would have anticipated or you know i knew there was a lot of presents wrapped for me under the tree but i had no idea what any of them could just be a couple of socks yeah you don't know oh i did get some socks though but socks are always good, though. Yeah. Yeah. They are.
Starting point is 00:03:06 I do like socks and underwear for Christmas. Yeah. It's one of those things that's nice to not have to buy for yourself. Yeah. Like, I think that means you're getting older. Because five years ago, I've been like, ah, really? And now I'm kind of like, oh, I don't have to buy this now. Well, I got some new boots, like outdoor kind of winter boots, which is nice.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Especially, like, we're in the midst of an impending snowmageddon. We are in snowpocalypse 2018 at the moment. It is, what are we, maybe six inches so far? Yeah. And maybe another foot on the way. Six inches and counting. Yeah. It's not letting up.
Starting point is 00:03:39 No. So that means we kind of did get away. It's been a few months since we gave a weather report. But I think we're probably officially back into the full swing of things here where we can give weekly weather report updates. Yeah, I have already today used the snowblower on my driveway and sidewalk once. And as I got into my car to come over here to record this podcast, I would say about three hours after I did it, you couldn't tell.
Starting point is 00:04:05 That's amazing you did actually yeah well i just uh uh one of the things i got for christmas is actually i've had the snowblower i already had had it but it's an older one uh but one of my presents is someone tuned it up and got it working really nicely without me knowing about it that's always so i i was excited to uh try you know to to test it out. That makes sense. And it started on like one pull, which for me and my fuse for like pulling engines to start them. Like there's many incidences. Does it literally raise your body temperature like a degree every pull you go? My body temperature and like the redness and anger in my face. I don't know if there's like anything that makes me me hotter in just seconds than pulling on a string like that.
Starting point is 00:04:50 My wife likes to tell a story. It's actually not the current Pushmore that we have. It's the one we had prior to. It was the one we had for this incident. It was old, and we'd had it for several years. And the first time to use it for one summer we got it out and uh my wife and my son were watching me from the window in the house i think at first they were at first they were outside with me and they could tell that things were getting like like
Starting point is 00:05:16 we maybe go inside they went inside and uh watched me from inside and after about 10 minutes i think uh the end result was me picking up the mower and throwing it across the yard putting it in its place yeah i did throw it across the yard once or twice and later that day we went and got a new mower that's one way to do it and it and that uh i should have done it you know an hour earlier and i would have saved myself a lot of work and frustration. Yes. A lot of frustration, but my snowblower now one pole going like crazy and doing the driveway with a snowblower. Oh, the sidewalks are okay. I can do the sidewalks with a shovel. It's not that big of a deal, but it's the driveway that really sucks with a shovel. Yeah. It's I live in like
Starting point is 00:06:04 the worst house for snow because my sidewalk, I, first of all, I live on a corner, so I have extra sidewalk. And my house is old enough, and we're in an old enough part of town that my sidewalk is on the gutter. So that means that when I'm done, the snow plow comes around and throws all of its snow right back on. And like when I used to not work from home, I work in an office, they'd come by in the middle of the day you know things are melting a little bit you get home at five o'clock things are starting to freeze again and it'd be just be like a straight up ice wall like there was no way it was impossible to do it like it seems like it should be illegal for them to do that to you it's insulting so do you have a snowblower so i do have i have a small snowblower.
Starting point is 00:06:45 It was one of those same things where my dad had an old one that wasn't really working that good. And so he took it into someone. They tuned it up. And then he's like, yeah, take it and use it. And when I use it, it's not like one of those heavy-duty ones. Some people have the self-propelled ones and all that. Mine is. It's older, but it's a big
Starting point is 00:07:05 monster. This is more like a snow thrower. That's what I was going to say. It's a snow thrower. It's like a mower. I could pick this thing up and sling it around. As long as the snow is powdery and nice, it makes life so much easier.
Starting point is 00:07:21 They're talking like we could get 18 inches of snow. Then I'm probably screwed. I think I would be with my ball and that is at 18 inches that's also the thing like people say the same thing about like you gotta have a truck in the midwest or you can't get anywhere it's like well but also like when the snow really does come down no one's going anywhere like you know you're a buick guy chaner so it's i i it would take a lot of snow for me to get my pickup out of the garage well and even then it it's like, why are you going anywhere? Right.
Starting point is 00:07:47 You know, I have a four-wheel drive pickup, but, I mean, I have never had to not. Like, I drive my front-wheel drive car anywhere. I mean, there's a good amount of snow on the streets right now, but you just. Go straight up through them. You do. You just, if you see kind of a bank, you have to know that you don't want to stop in the middle of it. Yeah, you don't come to a dead stop at any stop signs, really. If there's a stoplight, usually that road's trafficked enough that you're fine.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Yep, yep. You just got to be smart about it. That's right. We're not your average idiots over here. That's some South Dakota winter living tips. Now you know. Yeah. But we were talking about Christmas.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Yeah. Did you eat anything good for Christmas? We had so many different. We had a lot of different things. Because you did say you had a lot of stops. Yeah. But we were talking about Christmas. Yeah. Did you eat anything good for Christmas? We had so many different, we had a lot of different things. Because you did say you had a lot of stops. Yeah, we had Sunday, we had like an egg bake feast with multiple different egg bakes and stuff. That was really good. Egg bake's always good.
Starting point is 00:08:42 I had prime rib twice. Even better. For two different meals, always good i had prime rib twice even better for two different meals and not like leftover prime rib it was like it was the prime all times two times that was really good i had uh what else uh a chili a chili feast like there's like four different chilies in one of them that was really good i'm not familiar with that chili tradition on christmas yeah that was a new one but that was on saturday saturday so it was like yeah yeah it was three days three days prior um but that was i don't know if you saw the snapchat of that night i said uh i sent a all the kids yeah there was uh where are all these kids coming from that was at my that was at
Starting point is 00:09:20 my in-laws uh-huh there was over 50 people there. It was family. And there was, I think, probably like 10 to 15 children, four or five babies. And I sent a picture when I was in the living room area, and I said, this reminds me of the Home Alone scene. Yeah, it is. In the beginning where everyone's running around and throwing stuff. Just pandemonium. Picking out what kid you're going to leave behind.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Yes, that is what it was like. What's the straggler? So I did eat a lot of different good things. How about you? For me, it was mostly ham. Okay. I did have some ham in there, too. And I love ham.
Starting point is 00:09:57 You know, ham's good compared to turkey. It's moist. Much better. It has flavors to it. I want to talk about gravy for a second. White gravy or brown gravy? It's kind of the subject matter here. There's a lot of types of gravy.
Starting point is 00:10:09 You have your more white. I don't even know what you call a white gravy. I just think pepper when I see a white gravy, like a pepper. But you have your beef gravies and your chicken gravy and your turkey and pork gravy, all those. You know, your shades of brown with your gravies. I did not know there was such a thing as ham gravy what color would that be? it's still brown
Starting point is 00:10:31 but it's maybe more on the closer to the red or pink spectrum of brown I've never heard of that didn't know it was a thing didn't know what it would taste like if I could compare it to anything if you've ever had homemade bean and bacon soup, ever had that? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Like that broth has a really distinct flavor to it. That's kind of what the gravy tastes like. It was pretty good, actually. Yeah. I would, if you get the chance to, I would recommend ham gravy. No, I've never had that before. Exotic things. What would you like better?
Starting point is 00:11:01 You called it pepper gravy, like a chicken fried steak with that. See, that's what I think of when I think of, yeah. That, would you like that better or a roast beef combination with the, you know, that's where it's like bread and. Like the beef gravy. Yeah, where it's dark, dark brown. Well, what am I putting that gravy on? Well. Because I think it depends on what you're putting the gravy on.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Yeah, because each of those are appropriate for each of the. Yes. Yeah, like to me, like the whole – What would you rather have, the chicken fried steak with white gravy or the roast beef combination with dark brown gravy? For me, it's pretty tough to beat a roast beef combo. But also, people might not know this. I think it's kind of a regional thing, roast beef combos.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Oh, is it? I don't know if that's completely – Universe, nationwide. Yeah, some of my old roommates from Minnesota, I think they said in Minnesota it's called... And what it is is it's roast beef almost in like a white bread sandwich covered in mashed potatoes and gravy. Yeah, you just smother the whole thing in gravy. I want to say it's called like a continental or something.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Okay. It's old. Continental. So roast, but is chicken fried steak pretty universal, do you think, everyone? Oh, beef commercial. It's a hot beef commercial. That's what it is, not continental. And yeah, my old roommate was trying to tell me that.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I'm like, no way. He is making that up. I had to look it up. Literally right there, hot beef commercial. Sounds like something you'd get. Why is it called beef commercial? We don't know the origin. Hot beef.
Starting point is 00:12:30 But it's used for hot beef sandwiches with gravy and mashed potatoes. Southwestern Minnesota. Exactly where they're from. A hot beef commercial. That reminds me of something you'd see in a porno. Yeah, something like that. Combo makes more sense to me. It me it does i mean it straight up is a combination but what do we know yeah we're just south dakota people what about uh when this comes
Starting point is 00:12:55 out i guess i didn't do the math on this i think we'll be really close to new year's eve i mean yeah it'll basically be yeah yeah uh do you have any big resolutions coming up this year um no i'm not really a resolution guy i am a planning and looking ahead guy so i have already um with my other i mean actually massonomics we're going to be doing this too but um with my own personal business like this last year was my first full year in business yeah Yeah. And so just kind of like going back, like looking at like how things went for the year, like where do I want to be for 2019? Like what do I need to do to get to those spots?
Starting point is 00:13:31 So I have all these questions that I need to like sit down and answer for myself. And I will, I will be doing that and I'm kind of excited about it. You know, it kind of shows you have your stuff together. Gives you a little bit of a roadmap. You know, if you don't know where you're going, it's hard to get there.
Starting point is 00:13:47 So I will be doing that. As far as fitness goes. Yeah, what about lifting? Do you have anything general? My big one would just be to feel good again. I'm still one step forward, two steps back. And you're back. I'm at the point now where in a day-to-day life, I feel great.
Starting point is 00:14:08 I feel fine. But just depending on the exercise and the day, things just don't feel good at all. And when I say don't feel good, I mean like actually suck really bad. Yeah. To the point where I can't finish a workout. It's like, well, this is really, really annoying. Right. So that would probably be my big one for the year.
Starting point is 00:14:26 You're not saying not feel good like any hard workout. Like, oh, that was a hard workout. That was really hard. No, I would love the feeling of a hard squat workout. That's probably my biggest thing is, like, that was my favorite thing in the world, a hard squat day, like, get the music going, like, be really feeling it. And I haven't got to take myself to that level in a very long time, so that kind of sucks missing out on that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:43 So, yeah, probably i would say right now at least my goal for the first half of 2019 is just going to be let's get things feeling good again yeah yeah that seems pretty reasonable yeah what about you um lifting wise i just i would like in 2019 i want to do some form of competing you know outside of the massonomic strongman showdown i mean i always do that but this would be this would be kind of a return for the first time in a while for you yeah and i don't know what or when i'm considering doing the usa pl meet coming up i'm my uh my bench has been going good and i'm feeling pretty good about my bench my my hips have been really bothering me lately here so
Starting point is 00:15:23 i'm trying to trying to have my hips not bother me. I'm having a hard time squatting, and now I'm actually kind of having a hard time deadlifting just because my hips are really, really sore. But I think I'll eventually be able to get that figured out. I want to do a full powerlifting meet at some point in time here. That's my plan. Yeah. And I'd like to compete in a strongman again sometime.
Starting point is 00:15:43 But my goal prior to that my real goal probably my biggest one fitness wise in 2019 is not have my bicep hurt yeah because that's kind of what keeps me out of doing strongman i want to do a strongman competition but my bicep has been bothering me for you know since i partially tore up for like two years ago so i won't my goal in the gym is getting my biceps so it uh doesn't bother me you know it doesn't bother me the power lifts yeah so that's good like that's that was an improvement and it's yeah they're a lot less taxing on yeah yeah but now i want to get it so i could get back to like picking up an atlas stone and doing stuff like that
Starting point is 00:16:19 we probably sound like a bunch of like just washed up habits right now like i just want to feel good. If those guys only lifted with good form, they wouldn't have these. It's like, nah, man. Things start to just break after a while. That's kind of a... Give it time. I think anyone that trains long enough,
Starting point is 00:16:38 if you train hard enough long enough, that is kind of inevitable. Because when things are going good, I could literally get stronger forever. If things just go good, it feels like you can get stronger forever. But things just – That's what keeps people from being the strongest people in the world. And if it's not injury, like one thing,
Starting point is 00:16:57 I think a lot of younger people don't realize this, and I still hardly have any insight on this. I think you have way more of it, Tanner, is like's not injury like life creeps up to you like you have a family like you're not just a college kid or in early single 20s forever like you have a family you start to have obligations like you don't get like you don't sleep kind of like how you want to sleep and like life really starts to catch up to you yeah having being married is way different than not being married. Yep. Now all of a sudden my schedule has twice as many things on it.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Right. Having a job, a real job is way different than being in college. Yep. Than working part time, sleeping till noon. Like having kids is way different. I mean, I get up at four in the morning every day and not because I want, not because I'm like, I'm going to beat everyone out of bed and I'm going to'm gonna start my day you know show everyone who's the man of this house no I'd like to sleep in yeah or not sleep in but just like not get up at four yep uh well and then I mean and then on top
Starting point is 00:17:57 of that there's the whole like you kind of got to make money to stay alive too and yes and also you'd be really dumb very few few people can, or very few people should like throw all their life to the side to focus on lifting because you start like throwing away career decisions and things like you're just setting yourself up for failure. Like I shouldn't say failure, but like a lifetime of like hurt and disappointment. And like, so like you also have like professional things you got to take care of. and that adds a whole nother level of stress to things a lot of that's outside your control you got to got to roll with the punches and not that there's some people out there that don't uh basically make their career no there is but that's not the majority of people recognize your own potential
Starting point is 00:18:39 and know like recognize your potential and also realize like that's probably not a forever thing either right yeah i mean the smartest ones doing that are smart enough to know that, you know. Yeah. They're probably hedging their bets with some other things that you don't see. Right. But yeah, it's, I mean, the lifting thing, it isn't going to be there forever. No, no. But I do want to compete, you know, competing is really fun.
Starting point is 00:18:59 And like, that's kind of why I lift any, you know, I, if it wasn't for competing, I probably wouldn't have near as much fun. What's the point of pushing it? Like what's the, who wants to be the guy that pushes it for his gym legs? It's just like, I just want to go to practice every day and never, never go to the game. It doesn't make any sense. That's I might. Cause, cause like that feeling you're talking about where, you know, it was like when you're feeling good and you're not injured and it just feels like you're getting stronger and stronger you can start to feel yourself like almost getting stronger like by the week right it's a good feeling you start to feel indestructible
Starting point is 00:19:32 yeah that's kind of how bench is going for me right now which is and that's a fun one to have yeah exactly like it's i'm not you don't feel like you're dying after every workout right i'm not the strongest i've ever been but i can tell like in time, if I just stay on track, I'll be able to get there. So I might, if nothing else, I would, uh, if I'm not able to squat in time, I might just bench at a meet or something just because I want to just get the feeling of competing again. Yeah. Go have fun. Yeah. So I might do that.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Like, uh, yeah. So I might do that. Or I, my, my main priority is still to do a full meet though, because I don't want to, that's still not as fun to go and just do one thing, but I might, might do it if it, if it, uh, there's something about when deadlifts come around. That's right. That's what I'm not even a deadlift guy, but there is something about when they come around that I was like, Ooh, this is exciting. I would have a really hard time not deadlifting.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Like that, that's the, that's the kicker yeah yeah it would be really sad missing out on that yeah yeah um i did have a pr this last week oh what was it it's uh my other sport that i play bowling bowling well with my handicap i was over 300 so but But, you know, I'm not a good bowler at all. I'll be the first to say I'm a terrible bowler. It's one of those things where you get married, your family expands, and you get into things that you didn't know you were going to be into. And bowling happened to be one of those for me. And this last week, first game of the day you play three games i i thought
Starting point is 00:21:05 i was gonna make a run at 200 or i've i had my first four strikes in a row i think in my entire i think my entire life is the first i had four strikes in a row and i thought okay things are going here all i had to do was get a strike like any point in the 10th frame and i would have had 200 uh-huh didn't do that missed it i had a terrible 10th frame i got like 185 i was like there goes my chance how it can drop that drop that much like there goes my chance it's never happening again except for the next game when i got 200 on the dot i thought i am unstoppable pba tour here i come how when you go bowling for league like that how many do you play three games okay yeah which one is usually your best out of the three?
Starting point is 00:21:47 So this is always the joke. Actually, yeah, this is always the joke. I bowl with Chuck, also a Massanomics member. And we always like to joke that the first game sucks because we're just getting warmed up. Where I think some of the older guys start to slow down in the third game. We're usually, like, just really starting to hit our stride in that second and third one. You know, we got that stamina. um usually the first one's not good i probably peak in this i definitely peak in the second or third well what i've noticed just from bowling
Starting point is 00:22:13 recreationally when you go the first one's not the best the second one's probably always my best and then by the third one i'm starting to be like yeah i don't want to do it anymore and also recreationally bad ones and you're like, yeah, screw this. Recreationally, you're usually like quite a few beers deep at that point too. So it's like focus is out the window. Should we get out of here? They're playing this damn music again. Let's just get going.
Starting point is 00:22:37 The kids are spilling stuff. I like that the snap you sent me. There was a crew of Masonomics people bowling. There was. Masonomics gym members were holding down the lanes. I was like, geez, they must be bowling. And we all bowled really good. So it's probably the gym with one of the best bowlers in the upper Midwest. This could be a whole episode on its own,
Starting point is 00:22:54 so we probably don't need to get into the whole thing. But what do you think, just thinking now, what were the Massonomics highlights of 2018? Ooh, Massonomics highlights. We could have probably started the episode and done that but as i'm just thinking well we were just building it up yeah like 20 minutes yeah yeah uh massonomics highlights of 20 well the one if i could think of like three things yeah it's hard to say one i like to think of like three things that to me fundamentally changed massonomic mass
Starting point is 00:23:22 is different yeah very different than it ever has been this year, it would be the Arnold was huge for Massanomics. Yeah, so that would have been March 2018. Yep, that was just... Beginning of the year. It was our second year getting in and talking to people, but this year we actually had people that knew who we were, they were familiar with us.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Yeah. We had a flow down, too, this year where it, it just, that was like the snowball to everything. Um, because then while we were there, we, we had the opportunity to have the awesome seats for the strong man. We got some good footage and that just like blew up Instagram for us. Like, like that's when like things really started to pick up. Um, so like, I guess the, the second part would probably be the whole like instagram social media thing like this is the year like it really took off from asonomics and it was because i mean we started to like kind of figure out who we are like yeah if you're listening to this you
Starting point is 00:24:15 know we like to have fun we don't take this whole thing too seriously like we're not the people putting out like the super serious motivational we're never going to and if you're looking for that man you are looking in the wrong place but we started to figure out like posts that we had fun making people liked like they got shared people started to know who we were and that was you know with mass economics verses and rookie cards and like lifting legends like those were things that combined what we love you know the love for the sport the you know the great things that are happening and like mixing in the education factor and humor with it too. People responded really well to those.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Those were awesome for us. Instagram is huge. We probably went from about, over 2018, I think we went from about 2,000 followers to about 13,000. We had Instagram for a few years. In the three years before that, it went from – it took like three – it took almost four years to go from zero to 2,000. Yeah. And then another year it grew like another 10,000.
Starting point is 00:25:13 And that's not everything. I mean, followers don't matter if it's not the right – but it was – it was like good people. It was like people that were genuinely interested in our stuff. They comment. They like on things. And that kind of ties into the next piece then of what was incredible about this year
Starting point is 00:25:27 was the apparel part. And people really responded and bought stuff in ways that we would have never, ever, ever, ever expected. I mean, the ways that we never expected even three months ago. There was a point in time where $1,000 in sales was mind-blowing to us.
Starting point is 00:25:44 And we're way beyond that i mean it's we still would like to be farther but um things are moving in the right direction yeah and that you can like visually see the growth like in a chart it's like damn what it's like people and it's still fun weird and fun to think about it like man we made this stuff and uh you know make some videos and make a few posts about it and this many people are taking out their wallet uh you know and wanting to buy stuff from people that i mean some people are definitely buying from us have no clue who we are right other people are fans fans for sure and that is awesome too that that exists now yeah i
Starting point is 00:26:22 would say that's probably nails the three things the arnold is where it started it did we're kind of january february could have just as well been 2017 it was just kind of like yeah life has always been we'd kind of i'm not saying we're spinning our spinning our wheels but you know we're it was just gaining a lot of traction it was just business as usual yeah yeah and then once we hit the arnold there we really started to figure out a few things that that worked in our favor and the arnold you know the interviews this year um i just thought went really well and it was really fun and we got a lot of cool people again yep uh got to go in the cage yeah that was awesome yes and we did we we got to meet a lot of the people that we didn't get last year we've managed to run into this year so that was that was cool too yeah a lot so a lot of that it went better just because we knew better better
Starting point is 00:27:08 what to expect and what we were doing social media part of it was it was huge and it's to the point now where it kind of does feel like there's a community around massonomics like if someone's into powerlifting and you say massonomics there's a decent chance they'll know who we are and if they do know who we are like they they they get what we're doing yeah like you're not just like yeah maybe like you you probably know like oh yeah it's really dumb really funny like you're gonna have a good time with it yeah and as before like i don't think anyone could even if you were a fan of it you probably wouldn't be able to say that for sure what it is that was always the joke is like well what is it yeah right i mean that still is a little bit of a joke but at least now we can definitely say it's this dumb thing at the very least we can say
Starting point is 00:27:47 it is entertaining yeah right right if someone didn't know and was to describe it and it wasn't us they'd probably say oh it's this you know they got this instagram page to make these power lifting and they these shirts with uh beer puns and but the on the apparel side of it going into it we pretty much had the lift shirt was something that we had sold a decent amount of at that point in time but in in in 2018 the huge life was huge life shirt was new in 2018 right because yeah that we yeah that was brand new at the arnold yep so we that that shirt was new uh our lift shorts lift shorts brand new in 2018. The bench heavy shirt was in this last quarter of 2018. Yep.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Our Lyft sweatshirt, bent sweatshirt, and Eagle sweatshirt. Yeah. Those are all new in 2018. And now what you see right here. Probably the most important. I can't believe we made it this far into the show. Yeah, we should have started it. I was thinking we should have just done it.
Starting point is 00:28:43 We should do an hour infomercial. just just just us talking about call today but wait there's more but just just before 2018 ended we got this shirt out and it's our what what do you refer to this shirt as in short it's the uh yeah buddy i think it's the yeah buddy i think that's that's what it is called on the website and i i've also you know buddy light buddy light it's i'm fine with that too if someone wants to refer to it yeah um but it's a it's um yeah buddy lightweight words to live by words to die by if you don't you gotta look go to our website and check our instagram page and check it out if you haven't seen it yet uh the biggest words say buddy light so if you can and it looks like uh if you've seen our other shirts you might know we it might maybe be related uh and it is again yeah uh what is your most out of those
Starting point is 00:29:36 products we mentioned new for 2018 what's your most favorite because you designed them so i did what uh you know the shorts mate you know it's kind of like saying who's your favorite child, Tanner. It's not an easy thing to do. For new things. That would take the Lyft shirt out of the equation. Yeah, that would take the Lyft shirt out. It's tough for me to go against the Lyft shirt. It's just so universal across all.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And that's like our baby that got – It is. It was thing i was like oh people like this um yeah i mean i got the eagle hoodie i really like the eagle hoodie just because it's we finally got nice sweatshirts like that was always a tough thing for us to find like good quality sweatshirts someone was just uh ross at the gym was just saying today he got a the bench bench heavy hooded sweatshirt for christmas and he said man that is such a nice fitting comfortable sweatshirt for Christmas, and he said, man, that is such a nice, fitting, comfortable sweatshirt. It's like it actually fits. Yep. Like you could still maybe tell that you live.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Like a real sweatshirt. You know? Yeah, like you're not 5'5", 300 pounds like most sweatshirts are built for. Right. So I really like the sweatshirt. You know, I literally just got this shirt before we sat down here. I like this one a lot. Like it really, it doesn't have any, a lot of, a lot of our shirts and other people's
Starting point is 00:30:49 shirts too, for that matter, have like chains or weights or something on them. But I mean, this is just the words in your face. The yeah, buddy might be my new favorite. And I don't know if it's cause it's new or not, but like, it could be just the newness talking. And I say at the gym, every day i say at the gym every day i'm at the gym i say yeah buddy or lightweight like we all say it a hundred times like to the point where if you listen to a lifting video you might think like we don't know how to talk because anyone
Starting point is 00:31:15 says yep yeah buddy like yeah that's it that's just what it is yeah that's how it should be that is this is a nice comfortable shirt too it is. It's got a nice fit to it. We also, too, we got our OG shirts, you know, just our regular shirts with the Massanomics logo. Yeah, we got new OG shirts. Yeah, we brought the new one is the black on black. So it's a black shirt with a black print or whatever, you know. Yep. Whatever you call that print, but it looks black on black anyways.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Tone on tone. And that one's super cool. I like that a lot. What I kind of like, though, is we brought back, it was the first shirts Mastanomics ever made were just a red shirt with the white Mastanomics logo on it, and we haven't had those for actually a few years. Several years.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Yeah, we've gone to some other things, but we brought that back, and I really like the way that that looks, actually. Yeah, with that true red. Right. And the very first ones we printed the massonomics logo was distressed like distressed i really like this one where it's the solid this is probably the first one we ever had on yeah maybe i think we had one other one there was a very limited run there's probably about 12 yeah a run of like less than 20 maybe and maybe. And we weren't on a shirt at that point in time that I liked all that well. Yeah, we had neck issues. Yeah, I like these shirts that we're printing on now.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Yep, big step up. Yeah. And we also did, I believe the Flex Flask came out this year as well. Oh, yeah. Along with the stickers and the koozies. Yeah, koozies. All things that people like. Stickers are a popular item, and we were talking about it too.
Starting point is 00:32:45 That's something in the future we want to get going. We're for sure going to have more of those coming to it too. Because we've got a, you know, with the Yeah Buddy, the Bench Heavy, and a few designs that are in the works even that you haven't even seen yet. Maybe one would be introduced first in a sticker. It could be. To get your juices flowing for maybe a future shirt. Yeah, everyone loves stickers, so we've got to get more of those out out there and well and i guess we're getting into the answer to this so that's kind of 2018 what do you see for 2019 i think 2019 i don't
Starting point is 00:33:15 want to say it's more of the same yeah but because the same isn't going to get you to what you're doing but right i think it's more in the same vein of like we know what we know what our brand our brand is having fun in the gym and you know having, having a good time with all this. And so we're going to make more stuff that kind of sums up that feeling of having a good time. And like, you know, it shares the bond of anyone that lifts weights can see this stuff and be like, yeah, I totally get that. That's, that's cool. I like it, man. That's funny. And I think just keep doing stuff like that. Yeah. Keep entertaining people on the interwebs.
Starting point is 00:33:49 I think if I could break it into three years, 2017, we started to figure out that that was maybe kind of our direction. Yeah, we kind of found our identity. Yeah, in 2018, it was figured out, and we kind of capitalized on it a little bit. It was like the proof of concept, actually. Yeah, and now I think on 2019, we can really take it the step farther. And there is no doubt at this point in time, and it is established and it is proof of concept by followers and fans. We know it's people like it, at least certain people,
Starting point is 00:34:24 at least the people listening right now i think everyone knows what the next move is we will be offering diet coaching in 2019 and programming and programming yeah everyone saw it coming but yep that's what it's good that's our 2019 coaching nutrition coaching and programming there is basically we have pigeonholed ourselves out of certain things by making fun of them. And like, you know, like safe to say we are not going to be able to do diet coaching or programming because of, although in a way we do programming because when people email me for the Jackals template, I do send them the eight week Jackals template, which people are still continuing to email. They still do. Every week somebody asks about the Jackals Gym eight-week strength program,
Starting point is 00:35:12 which, hey, we don't get anything out of plugging that, but it's a good, solid program. Yeah, it makes the world stronger, I guess. Anything about 2019, we've got the Arnold. The Arnold is going to be different for us this year. Yep. So that'll be,
Starting point is 00:35:29 that'll be the big thing. You know, hopefully that kind of serves as the springboard for this year too. Yeah. Of like getting out there and getting to meet like more of you guys, you know, who, who the people are that like this stuff,
Starting point is 00:35:41 like, and then just letting more people discover us. Cause as far as, you know, the power lifting, lifting world, isn't't a isn't an enormous community right um so and i still think we're a very small part of it so i still think there's a lot of people that we can reach yeah that we're that we're not right now so i think we sit at this point in time next year um we will we'll be able to successfully say that we successfully did reach a lot more people, hopefully. Yeah, if we didn't. If we're not growing, we're dying.
Starting point is 00:36:09 So if this year or next year ends and we're like, oh, man, 2019 wasn't that good, I don't know if it's something you still stick out at this point. Yeah, that's true. Right now for us, you and I sitting here talking before this event, it's easy to say, man, what we're doing is working. We're going to continue to do it and try and do it better and figure out new things that we can do that are better even than what we're doing right now. If it was going the opposite direction, it would be like, well, what's the point? We've been trying this.
Starting point is 00:36:39 We gave this a real honest shot. Or if next year is a 50% decline, it's like, why? Yeah, yeah. You know, it's not worth it then. Nope. So I don't think we'll have that problem, though. I think we'll be growing even more and better. I think so.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Now, I told you I was going to spring this on you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the title of this episode will probably be based on this but i i felt you out to see if i thought you knew what was going on or not um do you know about someone famous in the lifting world that did a meet and i would call it the the meat that nobody knows about i i don't think I do. And when I say someone famous in the lifting world, go to the top of the food chain. Larry Wheels? Larry Wheels did a powerlifting meet.
Starting point is 00:37:32 What? In December. Really? Can you bring up open powerlifting on your... I feel like this is like a joke right now. And just click on his. And it was earlier in December. Larry Wheel, a lot of people don't know about this.
Starting point is 00:37:48 I mean, I think people, some have found out about it. What's the date on that? His. Oh, December 12th. Yeah. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. December 1st. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Okay. December 1st. Yeah, 12-1, December 1st. December 1st. So less than a month ago, he competed in a meet. He did not post anything about this on Instagram. The likely reason he did not post anything about it is he bombed out. He bombed out on a deadlift?
Starting point is 00:38:13 Yeah. God, he had 832 squats, 600 bench. Yeah. So the way this went. And it's a USPA meet? Yep. And it was in sleeves. His opening squat, he squatted 700 pounds.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Okay. His second attempt, he squatted 832. What? Yeah. Why? He said he likes to take big jumps. He said that's what he does in the gym, so that's what he is going to do. I watched it.
Starting point is 00:38:43 He put out a video about it, and when someone tipped me off that this was just uh i found about this maybe two weeks ago someone says did you did you know that larry wheels competed earlier this month and i was like bullshit no he didn't like how would i not know about that so i looked it up and then i googled and found his youtube video explaining it he had just gotten back from his trip to europe i don't know where he was all at. I'm not saying he's making excuses, but in the video, that's what he is like. In hindsight, he's saying maybe it wasn't the –
Starting point is 00:39:13 he wasn't planning on doing this meet. He just like – his friend was doing it, and he just said, oh, I'll do that. I've been really strong in prep for this bodybuilding show. I think my numbers will be solid. I'm going to jump in this relatively relatively smaller uspa meet uh-huh he got 832 on his second he missed his third uh he he couldn't get it it was um 865 maybe something like that and he couldn't get it he said he went too deep in the hole and couldn't get back.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Like he went extra deep. And I don't know that he went extra deep. He just went too down. It was just too heavy. Yeah, yeah. You're right. It's something that would happen when it's probably more than you can lift that day. On bench, his opener was, do you want to know what his opener was?
Starting point is 00:40:00 600. 500. His second attempt was 600. So there again, he makes a hundred pound jump and then um i think that but i'm right on that that his second was 600 and i don't know what he tried on his third or how that went but uh-huh his opening deadlift was so here's what he said he was going to open lighter. Judging by this, okay, judging by his logic so far,
Starting point is 00:40:29 I would say his opener should be around like 800. Yeah, so I think he was maybe originally going to open around something like that. And he said the meat was maybe going long, and he was really tired, and he thought he just had one in him. So I think it was 889. That seems a little high. He didn't get it, and I think maybe he tried it all three times. Really?
Starting point is 00:40:55 And he couldn't get it. So he bombed out. 889. Yeah. So that would put him at, assuming he got that. Yeah, what does that were? And there was a, I can't remember his rationale of the numbers or what, but what was it, 832?
Starting point is 00:41:12 Yep, 832, 600. 600 and 889. I think it was 889. So 2321. And what's his all-time best total? His all-time best is 2292. Yeah, so it would have been a pretty big pr but that was a pr squat in sleeves and it was a pr bench yep the the looks like the squat was about a nine 11 pound pr
Starting point is 00:41:34 and the bench was also an 11 pound pr yeah wow yeah so you and you hadn't heard of i had not heard anything about it i'm guessing there'll be people listening to this that'll be like, what? The mystery Larry? Yeah, the secret. The secret Larry meat. The Larry wheels meat that you've never heard of. Interesting. The Larry wheels meat that never was.
Starting point is 00:41:59 That's exactly what it is. That's exactly what it is. I mean, it has to be. I do buy his excuse of it probably being a last-minute thing because he didn't say a thing about it in his training, unless he was really planning on it not going good and that's what he wanted to tell anyone. But usually, like, these guys, for the most part, will announce meets out and say, like,
Starting point is 00:42:19 yeah, I have a meet coming up in three months and I'm prepping for that. And, you know, all their meets are in prep for that. No, I think he did just decide. I thought it really, he's just like, ah, screw it. I feel strong. I'll do it. But I guess it shows that even he is not immune to maybe bad attempt selection
Starting point is 00:42:36 and not the best preparation. Right. Well, and that's, people get really hung up on the gym lifts, which are impressive. Yeah. But they're a good example. He squatted 900 in the gym. So you're like, oh, he squatted 900 in the gym.
Starting point is 00:42:51 He deadlifted nine, whatever. Yeah. And what did he bench? What does he bench in the gym? 650? Yeah. You're like, well, shit. He'll be able to total 2450.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Like, he should lift that big dogs. He'd be right up there if not beating all of them. Well, then he'd go to a meet, he squats 832 and misses his third. He benches 600 and an 890 deadlift wasn't there. Yep. So it's like, well, gym lifts, you know, it's not lifting in a meet still. Even if you're Larry Wheels. Yep, it's a completely different thing.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Wow. I'm a little shocked right now. I kind of feel dumbed out of the loop. Yeah. But, like, 832, you know, that's 70 pounds off of what he did in the, you know, he did a 900 squat in the gym, but it was probably high. Yeah, it was probably, especially by USPA standards. Yeah. They're not giving stuff away.
Starting point is 00:43:47 So, yeah, it probably was high. And usually with his bench, he does also kind of have like. His PR elbow wrap. Yeah, he has like his PR elbow wraps, whatever, you know, whatever he's got going on there, whether it's a cuff or a wrap. But his elbows are protected in ways that they can't be on meet day. Yeah. And then when he's deadlifted 900 in the gym,
Starting point is 00:44:08 it's not after squatting 800 and some pounds and benching 600 pounds. So is it safe to say that Larry will never come back from this and he's done for? Yeah, he's washed up. If anyone will come back from this and destroy a killer next, have like a killer next meet, it would be Larry. So I have no doubt. No, I'd be surprised if he ever sets another PR in his life. Oh, wait.
Starting point is 00:44:31 What's that? Instagram notification? Another PR? Oh, yeah. There it is. There it is. It did 900 for a triple. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:39 I just thought that that was, I was really caught, you know, really surprised by that. What did he weigh in at? 271. And this was just right off of getting ready for a bodybuilding show. Another crazy stuff. Just not the best prep for sure. It is cool, now that we're in here, just looking at his meet history. Going back to being 18 years old with an 1810 total.
Starting point is 00:45:07 As seen in the Massanomics rookie card. Yeah. Started from the bottom, and now he's Larry Wheels. Still hasn't cracked that 600 Wilks. Oh. Getting close, though. 592. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:22 I bet if he would have got that last pull, he would have been there. He would have been really close to it, yeah. Yeah. But it was the big bomb out. Wow. Amazing. Yeah. It was probably all over Reddit, I suppose.
Starting point is 00:45:38 I was just on there before. I didn't see anything about it. Yeah. But I probably missed it. I was in Hawaii for a while, and you know, basically not in the country. You got out of the loop. Yeah. You're way out of the loop.
Starting point is 00:45:48 I'm behind on everything now. Geez. Well, what else do we got, Tanner? Well, we might have – well, speaking of – we could talk about big lifts as long as we're talking about Larry. As long as we're talking about Larry Wheels, we could talk about the female Larry Wheels. We should. Amanda Lawrence. She just – it was just posted. larry wheels we could talk about the female larry wheels we should uh amanda amanda lawrence she just it was just posted she squatted 585 now this time for a pr because it's a new week so yeah right
Starting point is 00:46:12 so she's on that same she is on the larry wheels training she must have bought you know what it is i just realized that she bought the program for 1999 oh.99. Oh, God. It is, isn't it? Yeah. She definitely did buy that $19.99 program. Yeah. There's no other explanation for this. Oh, that was a smart choice on her part. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:34 I mean, you can tell from the training. The training cycles mirror each other very well. Yeah. It has to be. But 585 squat in sleeves for her is kind of ridiculous. It is because what does she weigh again? Is her weight class under 190 for sure, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:54 I can't remember for sure. If only we had something to look it up on. Here we go. I'm going to guess she's like 180, but we'll see. Body weight, 183 okay yeah still anybody under 190 pounds squatting close to 600 is really really really good yeah yeah i'm impressed and she's about 20 is all so why not i'm excited to see her in a meet you know i i can't i you know to be honest i'd say if you went a year ago i didn't know that much about her or you know probably didn't follow her
Starting point is 00:47:31 or wasn't aware of how strong she was but now that i am more aware i'm really curious to see how she does and uh and actually she's not the usaL champion of her weight class. No. Do you know she's from Minnesota? Really? Yeah. All of her first meets are all Minnesota. Oh. Maybe we should get her on the Mastodonics podcast. I don't know if she lives there now, though.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Oh, yeah. That's the real question. Well, this year in June, she did one in Minnesota, too. Maybe she was also going to move to L.A. and train with Bradley Martin. Probably, yep. I think that's in the program. We should move to L.A. and train with Bradley Martin. And Thor and Brian Shaw.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Then we'd be on to something. I do think that probably is all a part of the program. Oh, yeah, for sure. I don't want to shell out the $20. I mean, $19.99. Everyone has yeah, for sure. If you shell out the, I don't want to shell out the 20 bucks. That's, I mean, 1999. Yeah. Everyone has it just laying around. And the other one,
Starting point is 00:48:30 this one's out of Big Left, particularly important because he was, the man happened to be wearing one of our very own bench heavy shirts. Mm-hmm. And it's a raw bench shirt. It's a bench shirt,
Starting point is 00:48:42 but it is raw, so this was a non-equipped lift. James Strickland bench 600 for three was it yeah and larry only did that once in his last meet so that's true big james just to put things in one set put that in comparison for you yeah and he said that was a pr for him he had done 600 for a double before he hit it for three. And it looks like his, uh, weights are starting to ramp up a little bit. Uh,
Starting point is 00:49:08 I'm not sure when he's competing next, but I imagine he's taking it. And I don't know if he's, you know, last time he competed, he lifted full power lifting and, uh, hit a 2,100 pound total,
Starting point is 00:49:20 which he had been after prior to that. He'd done bench only for a few meets. Um, and now I don't know if maybe he's gonna switch back to bench only and chase that chase down 700 again or be cool to see yeah either way as long as he's competing 600 by three is a lot a lot of weight though like a lot and i do this is raw considered raw still, right? Oh, absolutely. So it wasn't like it was aiding him. Nope. I mean, from a mental standpoint, it might have been aiding him,
Starting point is 00:49:50 but there's no rules against that that I know of. I guess I've worn it to bench before, and it didn't feel like it was going to make me bench 600 pounds, let alone for three reps. Maybe try wearing two of them at the same time, though. Oh, multi-ply. There we go. Multi-ply. Now we're onto something. Multi-ply bench shirt we should make it as a
Starting point is 00:50:08 package online we're a multi-ply you buy two and you save like five dollars well you buy uh if you normally wear an xl you buy a large yep and then you wear an xl over the top of it yeah because the bench shirt's supposed to be pretty hard to get on yeah so yeah you got to buy your first one at least a size down. Yeah. Then the other one is like the style one. Yeah. But if you want to go single ply, you could still too.
Starting point is 00:50:31 You could even go, I mean, yeah, you could go single ply. You could go triple ply with this thing or more. That's true. I'd love to see someone go like four plies deep with this. At that point, though, it gets hard to even get the bar down. It does. It's just a pull is all it is really. You're not even doing any of the work.
Starting point is 00:50:47 That's true. The shirt's doing it all for you. Yeah, that's true. So, yeah, if someone wants to, like, buy five bench shirts and tell us if it is actually any work to bench in them. We'll be happy to send them to you. I would love to know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:00 All right. How about our fastest, maybe gaining the most popularity by the day segment, underrated or overrated? Ooh. It is a great segment. I'm afraid we maybe talked about a couple of these things in passing throughout this episode, but that's all right. We'll revisit them. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, for anyone that doesn't know, these are lightning round questions that I asked Tommy.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Some pop culture mixed in with some lifting related. And he responds with underrated, overrated, and elaborates as much or as little as he wants to on the topic. At my discretion. All right. Underrated or overrated? Checking luggage while flying. So overrated. I didn't check a bag in my life until I started flying with my wife.
Starting point is 00:51:48 She checks bags. Annoying. Some places, I will admit, are not bad. But if you fly with a Legion, just plan on your flight taking like an extra hour and a half for them to somehow take the bag the hundred yards from their tiny little airport terminal to the thing. I've seen this happen twice now in the last month. Either me flying Allegiant or someone I knew flew Allegiant.
Starting point is 00:52:10 After they landed, it was a good hour before their bag made it. Insane. Yeah. Overrated. Yeah, I think that's neat. I think all men agree that that's overrated as far as I know. You can get a duffel bag and fill it with so much stuff. Yes, and then you can have another bag.
Starting point is 00:52:25 And if you're going anywhere long, my whole thing is if you're going anywhere long-term enough that you need a lot of extra clothes, they probably have a washer and dryer. You can just wash your clothes and wear them again. Right. Overrated. I just got to say it again. Overrated. Emphatically overrated. All right.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Underrated or overrated? Benching with a lifting belt on. I think that's kind of underrated. You don't see many people do that, I feel like. I actually do like the feeling of it. I don't do it. I don't, like, train regularly with it. I kind of just save it for singles.
Starting point is 00:52:58 And it could just be mental, but I like the feeling of it. And I don't see people that wear the belts making a big deal about it either and having, like, some elaborate belt set up. So I'm saying it's underrated. You don't see people that wear the belts making a big deal about it either and having some elaborate belt set up. So I'm saying it's underrated. You don't wear one for benching, do you? I have, and that's weird. It's something that I could almost go back and forth on just depending on the – I did a relatively heavy single today, and I didn't wear one,
Starting point is 00:53:19 but I have worn one in the past on heavy singles. And I'll be the first to say I'm not sure it actually adds any pounds, but there's something about when I get a belt out for bench that i like in my head i'm like yep this is really serious now and i don't know if it just helps with the whole mental prep yeah but yeah i have in the past worn one of the times and if i mention a meet i believe i have to even would have to look back to remember but i think i have worn a belt but i honestly cannot remember for sure um next one here is instagram tv and operator overrated i'm not positive is that what it's called i think it might be ig tv okay so overrated like i know for a fact you know they were hoping
Starting point is 00:54:01 that that would become a youtube replacement yeah like they absolutely were hoping no way does anyone use it i think so well it was i don't even full still fully understand it's the thing of any platform now is people always will dive into it really quick with the idea that they don't want to be missing out or be playing catch up because now with new social platforms you do have the opportunity where you can be one of the first ones. But I think that that curve has come and gone, and it never hit the mass adoption level. Is it still out there? It's still there. Do people use it? I see the button.
Starting point is 00:54:36 I don't hear anyone talk about it at all. I'm sure there's a few people that have had success with it, but it's not really a thing. What was that other social media platform that kind of came around and there was for like some for like a day or two yeah there was kind of some like gray area or well it was kind of like linked to like some russian person or someone um so that hasn't taken off obviously no i can't even remember what that was called now yeah that was the same thing as like people were trying to get their names on it and everything i cannot that was earlier this year and i cannot remember that was uh same thing. People were trying to get their names on it and everything. That was earlier this year, and I cannot remember.
Starting point is 00:55:06 That was overrated, obviously. It just shows how hard it is now, though, to get a social network up and going. Yeah. So should we start one? Yes, let's do it. Mathonomics. Now is our time. All right.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Underrated or overrated? This is one we talked about. Underrated or overrated? Socks and or underwear for Christmas presents. I think it's underrated. I think it is, too. If you asked me 10 years ago, I would say absolutely overrated. The only thing, though, is if it's cheap stuff, though, and you got it as a gift, then that's almost insulting.
Starting point is 00:55:38 But the nice stuff. If you get decent stuff that has some better quality stuff. like stuff that has a, uh, yeah, just like some better quality stuff. Like, cause you,
Starting point is 00:55:46 whether Nike, Adidas, Under Armour, any athletic brand, they have like the really cheap socks. Right. And then they have like the nicer stuff. Yeah. And if you're getting on that nicer scale.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Yeah. It's totally worth it. I like the nice Under Armour socks. I really love, they're really nice. Yes, they are. They like fit so good.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Yeah. There's a left and a right. They're not like crazy thick, like in the way that it's just like someone just took a bunch of cotton and somehow stitched it into a sock. It feels like it's purposefully made. Yes. So underrated? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:56:17 All right. Underrated or overrated? Heeled squat shoes. For me, it's overrated. I tried to do a whole thing. You have some. Yeah, I have some. And I actually gave it a good run for like six months. And it just never quite felt right.
Starting point is 00:56:33 And I remember the day that I went back to flats. I was like, whoa, that feels really good. And even after that, and I did that for like another six months. And I was like, maybe I should give it one more try. And when I went back, it was like, this feels even worse than it did the first time. And I tried to tough it out, and I gave it up. And I will say overrated, but I do like how they feel benching. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Like for me, for some reason, a belt and squat shoes for benching is just great for me. I don't know why. Yeah. so for you personally at least you would say overrated yeah yeah um the last one underrated or overrated brexit oh god um we like to cover a wide uh wide swath in underrated over i mean it's probably underrated in the way that it probably is like big long-term lasting political things but man if there's one thing that i really like don't like it's british politics because there's the whole oh international like parliament uh especially because like british politics like there's this whole like queen and king thing
Starting point is 00:57:43 that doesn't matter anymore but it exists and they have like this part like queen and king thing that doesn't matter anymore, but it exists. And they have like this part, like it just feels like so old to me. Don't you just picture old guys in like with white hair, like yelling at each other. Yeah. Like in weird British accents. Like,
Starting point is 00:57:56 yeah, it literally feels like something from another world. Like it doesn't make any sense to me. So yeah, I'm going to say that that's a, the Brexit itself i think is probably underrated like i don't think it should from what i understand it probably should have never came to this in the first place and then now aren't they trying to do some like well
Starting point is 00:58:14 like like yeah i think that's what they were trying to say but but they voted i think they it was a popular vote even by the people at the time. The way I understand it, though, even that was like, oh, we were kind of joking about that when it went through. And now they kind of, I think, want to do a redo. But someone equated that to me like, what was the analogy? It was almost like a plane. I can't remember. There was a good analogy where the wheels of something had been set in motion.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Oh, yeah. It's like the wheels are already up on the plane and we're trying to. And they want to be like, no, no, stop, stop. Or maybe a better analogy is you're on a space shuttle mission and you've already launched from the rocket. You've already pushed the takeoff button. Yeah, and you want to be like, no, no, no. We don't want to do it.
Starting point is 00:59:00 And then it's harder at this point to not do it because you've already gone so far. You have to break the laws of physics at this point. Right. Right. Wow. Brexit. Really caught me off guard. Okay, I got one for you, Tanner.
Starting point is 00:59:14 All right. Overrated, underrated. CBD oil. Oh, wow. Never been on this side of underrated and overrated before. Enormously overrated. i don't know i've never tried it i don't even know what it is i don't know anything about it um but overrated have you ever ran across the post on instagram for it before the the posts on instagram are
Starting point is 00:59:39 way overrated i know that like i i i but those get no engagement from people at this point like everyone's like get out of here with that the thing is i there's i i know for a fact there are people that say cbd oil changed their life and everything and sure okay if that was your thing i sure but my whole thing with it is in instagram in like the last two months cbd oil among i don't know if it's just like the i don't know if it's just like the communities I follow, but my exposure to it on Instagram has gone from zero to like a stupid, like almost more than supplements at this point. It is.
Starting point is 01:00:16 I do see it more than supplements because they're getting to people that I actually follow that probably wouldn't pitch much for supplements but are pitching this like before before instagram i actually thought like are my vision or my thought process on is like i think cbd oil is like a legit thing like the cannabinoids do have healing properties that help people and like instagram is almost ruining it for me get it out of get i don't want to see it i don't want everyone in the world to be like pushing their cbd oil on me and that's when i say overrated that's what i'm saying is overrated is all yeah i don't actually know
Starting point is 01:00:49 anything i should actually i should actually say instagram's position on cbd oil like it's so overrated get it away from me yes for me it for me instagram positions it when i say instagram people in the lifting community yeah position it as the same as a pre-workout and any supplement from any company like it's the thing that makes them keep going and doing their thing but it's like well also you've been doing your thing for several years before this and right i don't see you like setting world record prs now in the last month that you've had your cbd oil right yes so that's annoying yeah also don't have a problem with it i just get tired of seeing it marketed to me on instagram not a huge problem with it but i don't like it and it kind of pisses me off uh so that's underrated and overrated i think it's a it's a one of our it's at least in
Starting point is 01:01:42 the top five of our segments at the end of the podcast. Easily. Easily. So we'll repack that with some new topics for next week that will span the gamut. Everything from wearing belts while benching to Brexit. I'd like to see how much. Belts and Brexit. How we can further expand our topics. Oh oh where there's a will there's a way uh i think otherwise we will wrap this one up what was this 143 yeah that sounds about right
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