Massenomics Podcast - Ep.171: "The Strongest Man in History" Review
Episode Date: July 15, 2019Have you tuned into the History Channel yet to check out "The Strongest Man in History"? We give you some of our initial thoughts on the show. We also talk about the parody that exists in pro stro...ngman, and talk about some big upcoming "stuff" for Massenomics.
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Welcome, Massanomics listeners, to episode 171 of the Massanomics podcast.
We are the world's strongest podcast, and we are also the lifting podcast about nothing.
We've got the same two hosts that we usually have, myself, Tanner, and Tommy.
What's happening?
Tell us a little bit about yourself.
Well, I enjoy long walks on the beach, you know, hanging out with other guys, that type of stuff.
Like doing guy stuff together.
Yeah, I'm a real guys guy over here.
We mentioned it maybe like two or three episodes ago that it's someone's first time listening.
And I keep thinking about that now every time.
That someone is.
That is their first impression for someone actually.
But I guess we probably can't give our full bio every episode or else that's all.
We wouldn't have enough time for Overrated and underrated if we did that every week.
And that's what people really come for.
My one complaint about the podcast now, we're going to have to do something about it.
If you listened last week, you know we're in a new studio,
and it's a farther drive for me, and I just don't know how I'm going to be able to continue.
I think it's actually a mile farther, Tanner.
Is it that far? I think it's almost a mile.
It might be three-quarters of a mile.
It could add maybe three minutes to your car ride i know there's an additional stop sign an additional stop light there and this is a stoplight that can be like
it's a big mystery yeah you can sit there and be like is it changing i had a friend that used to
live around these parts and he said on his motorcycle the stoplight oh that doesn't change
i was just not recognizing i was just out here uh it won't change until someone pulls up behind around these parts, and he said on his motorcycle, the stoplight would not recognize it.
I was just out here.
It won't change until someone pulls up behind you
or comes from the other direction.
Which seems like in this day and age, that's a little suspect.
It's annoying.
There's a lot that are like that, that when I'm on my motorcycle,
I'll just eventually run it because it's...
I mean, yeah, you got to at one point.
Yeah, and I feel like you could justify that to a police officer.
It wouldn't change.
Do I got to get off my bike and push the pedestrian crossing button?
But, yeah, so this is too far.
You're going to have to move back.
We could just rent a space.
That's probably a good use of money, right?
Yeah.
Rent a space in town.
We've got more than enough money to do that.
Just throw it around.
That's definitely what we need to spend it on.
Yeah.
There will be changes, though, that are upcoming visually for the podcast.
This will be, for the watchers,
this will be the last time you ever see the podcast look like this.
Yeah.
You don't know what that means.
Because I don't think we even know completely what we're getting into,
but it will look different next week.
There's going to be a lot more strobe lights and smoke machines.
A lot more entrance music, yeah, lasers, things like that.
That will occupy a much larger portion of the airtime.
But once we get to the meat of the podcast, then it'll be the same.
We're going to get a guy that just introduces us at the beginning of it,
like his name's Johnny or whatever.
Getting hired.
But, you know, Tanner, I am looking at myself on the monitor there,
and I'm realizing that my incredible Don't Curl In Me shirt
and my pasty skin kind of all blend into the wall.
It wasn't for the blue lift leg behind us.
I'm not even sure.
You'd be like, what are those two eyeballs doing on the wall?
The shirt does look good, though.
The shirt is here.
The shirt does look great.
There's no doubt about that.
The green grass is a really good contrast on there there it does make it pop as they say yeah
that's so that's when you designed this you had pop in mind didn't you i mean that
you're like that is the goal of any designer is the pop factor yeah this design started with one
simple idea make it pop yep i mean like you can have a few designs they can all be good but what
is the one that pops and you'll know that and once you have the pop scale then you're ready to go yeah um no
we released these yesterday um you know based off of time recording here we released them yesterday
and uh rave reviews so far rave reviews lots lots of lots of rave reviews yeah um we also have the
companion flag and stickers to go with it and people are snatching them all up
selling a lot of stickers yeah and as we should i mean these stickers belong on every squat rack
in america yeah it should almost be like a safety label that they put on before they leave the
factory that's true we should talk to rogue we could work and deal with them like they gotta
license these to rogue and titan fitness it's like that label on your mattress yeah and do not
remove under penalty of law.
We should start printing that on all the stickers,
a little caption.
Yeah, we should.
Do not remove under penalty of law.
I like that.
That'd be good.
We're on to something here.
This is just a brainstorming session for Product Minds.
So if you guys keep listening,
we're just going to talk out some more ideas here.
And we won't talk about all the ideas we have,
but lately we have been brainstorming a lot of good things coming for 2019.
Yes, we should just say that.
We've been doing some extra brainstorming lately, and the second half of 2019, I think we came into 2019 pretty good, and we're going to end 2019 really good.
Yeah, in like a lion, out like a bigger lion.
So yeah, you guys got that to look forward to in the next six months, I guess.
I am excited for it.
We've got a lot of good ideas, I feel like.
These ideas were happening like yesterday even.
But, yeah, we do have some pretty wild stuff planned.
It's like once you get the boulder rolling, it just picks up speed.
Once that momentum's going, yeah, look out, world.
Here we come.
But for real, though, we do have some things happening.
So if this was like, I'll give them one more shot.
Today's the day.
They got to impress me.
We'll say, just hold on a little longer.
There's more coming.
We always like to do that.
We always like to.
Someone probably at their ultimatum, like, this is it.
I've had enough of their shit.
But, yeah, no, there is more coming here.
Yeah.
Toughen up.
The shirt is really nice. This is the first time we've printed on this shirt. had enough of their shit but yeah no there there is more coming here yeah toughen up the the shirt
is is really nice this is the first time we've printed on this shirt obviously it's a different
color than we've ever had before it's a different color than anyone's ever had before that is one
of the better things yeah it is i mean if you're doing a gadson inspired shirt it has to be yellow
but yes yellow shirts can be really tricky yeah there's some really obnoxious ones but we have a
pretty fashionable one this have a pretty fashionable
one this is a very fashionable color we went with here um but the rack the you know it really turned
out the print on the on the shirts really turned out good and the massonomics on the plates looks
pretty badass the whole thing just it looks amazing yeah i just want to look down at it
because i just got to put it on yeah uh so you you do this is your opportunity to snag those
we've been selling quite a few.
And I would say if you're, yeah.
Especially the big boys.
If you're a big boy.
Yeah, if you're a 4X or a 3X, I wouldn't wait.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if by the time you're listening to this, they're not in stock.
But if they are, then you're definitely going to want to get one because the big guys really like this shirt.
And my one piece of advice, if you are going to buy this and you have any of our other shirts,
one piece of advice if you are going to buy this and you have any of our other shirts,
specifically our lift shirt, deadlifter shirt, curl hard shirt, black lift shirt, or huge life and Jefferson, all of those are printed on the same shirt. They run a little bit bigger than
this shirt does. So you, if that shirt is, especially if that shirt is snug on you,
any of those shirts that I mentioned, you would want to go a size bigger in this shirt.
I would describe this one as about a half a size smaller.
Yeah, yes.
Like where I typically in those shirts wear a large.
Yep.
This one, the large was just a little tighter than what I wanted.
Yep.
I went with the extra large.
The extra large is slightly bigger than the large.
So it is kind of like a half size smaller I would describe it as.
That is right.
But it is a good shirt.
It is good.
So we did have some news in the lifting world this week, though.
Biggest piece of news is Strongman made it on, what would you call, cable television?
The most hardest hitting news network, or the most hardest hitting entertainment network on the planet.
The History Channel.
The History Channel.
Where you go to to find out information about aliens,
people driving trucks on ice,
the intricacies of pond dealing,
and now Strongman.
Yeah.
The first episode aired of the strongest man in history,
and that features the four Strongman, Brian Shaw, Robert Oberst, Eddie Hall, and Nick Best.
I caught the first episode.
I don't even know how I got to watch it.
I do not have cable television, but I just got the History app.
Oh, is that how you did it?
I did, but then you had to put in your provider.
And they're like, yeah, we'll give it to you. Well, I just select DirecTV, and then it made me put in a code.
I had to go to something on my phone, and I put in the code that was on the screen.
And you were good.
And let me watch it.
So I really don't know.
We do not have DirecTV.
Insider hat for anyone wanting to know.
So I got to watch it, and it's good.
I think there's going to be seven episodes of it is what they said.
Are these 20-minute or like a half-hour hour?
No, I'm sure it's an hour show.
I don't know if it's like 40 minutes of watching or something like that.
But this first episode, they were in Moorhead, Minnesota.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
And I knew they were training at a gym at Fargo at one point in time during filming.
So this was that.
And it was this winter.
Yeah.
Because it was winter out when they filmed too.
And that's when they had a lot of the promos.
Yeah.
The photos coming out on Instagram.
So that was cool.
They weren't too far away from us either when they did that.
And it's pretty good.
It's like a little cheesy, History Channel cheesy stuff.
Which that's like their thing.
Yeah.
It'd almost be shocking if it wasn't.
But it's not like way super overboard of that.
You know, it's not so much that it makes it unbearable.
You know, they have to make this a show with the hope to appeal to everyone.
Some kind of fake drama.
Yeah.
Like kind of build some things up.
And there is definitely some fake stuff.
And I won't give away the show because I think a lot of people that listen to this would be interested in watching it.
And not like it's a spoiler show, but like I'll let you, you know.
Does anyone die at the end of the first episode?
Not yet.
But there was like this part at the end.
It's not like Game of Thrones.
Just of the five Starmen, two of them actually die in the show.
And it's the one you like the best.
It's like, oh, Brian Shaw, I really liked him.
The other four feet into death
yeah and him oh yeah they did brian shower was really likable i really liked that guy
he was really important to the to the show uh they do this weird thing where like nick best is
teaching these guys about Viking history.
Because this one is like, they're in Minnesota.
It's like this Viking thing.
And I'm kind of like, well, why didn't you go to Iceland?
Yeah.
You know, is what my first thought was.
Because I know they went to some other countries in the show.
But anyways, that's besides the point.
But he was kind of like teaching them about stuff.
And I'm pretty sure maybe he is,
but I'm guessing Nick best.
Isn't this Viking historian that he knew this weird,
these weird,
uh,
Viking,
uh,
myth,
mythology,
uh,
like in my head,
I want to think that they were like,
all right,
Nick,
say it happened 600 years ago.
And he's like,
ah,
it was like 400 years ago.
We got to do it again.
The number's wrong.
And just keep messing it up.
And then at the end, kind of towards the end of the show,
the other guys give Nick this Viking hatchet that is, you know,
supposedly a legitimate artifact.
Did it come from the Pawn Star guys, though?
It's been verified by an expert.
They brought in their expert.
Like, just wait, I've got an expert that by an expert they brought in their expert like just
wait i've got an expert that's an expert in in uh viking hatchets let me call him he's just down
the strip in las vegas just quick flight but they gave this to him and nick like cries almost and
i'm like i don't know if this is real this part part. It seemed pretty staged, but it kind of looked like he was crying.
Maybe it's the nicest thing anyone's ever done.
It could have been.
It could have been.
It was good, but they do these tests of strength.
I won't tell you all the ones they did there,
but I can see it's going to be a cool show.
And there were some legitimate stuff that they did where, like,
I don't think it was staged.
You know, Eddie and brian couldn't
do this one thing and then nick after a lot of trying actually was able to do it and yeah um
eddie hall and brian shaw have a really good rapport because it's kind of uh i would say
it's some give and take but i think it's mostly eddie giving it isn't it yeah it is it is but
brian's not not bad at it.
And Robert, actually all four of them do.
And if you ever watch Brian Shaw's YouTube channel,
he puts a ton of him and Eddie Hall in there.
And it's like those two are like the super best friends.
So they can always have a show on the phone.
Yeah, yeah.
Like Eddie and they're legitimately good friends.
It comes off as they're good friends,
and they constantly rag on each other and
you know calling each other fat and the fat neck rolls and all the all the stuff that they do and
it's pretty pretty funny and it's like even during world's strongest man competition yeah they do the
same thing yeah it's like it's like eddie is over there like calling brian a fat loser you know but
and that but then he does recognize the situation and like maybe brian didn't do very good at something you know you can tell they're actually friends yeah and they're actually
friends and because i remember the first time i saw that was in the eddie the eddie hall strongman
is that what it's called yeah yeah whatever it was when there's like spots in the documentary
where you seem like making fun of brian yeah and the first time i saw it i'm like god are these
guys like friends actually like you don't that was several years ago and you didn't see as, at least to me,
I didn't see as much of them then.
So I'm thinking like, is this actually like,
are they at each other's throats kind of?
And now, you know, it's a big family.
No, they definitely are good friends.
And all four of them do have a pretty funny,
funny rapport like that.
And there's some, there's some competition amongst that's,
amongst them in there, you can tell, but it's a good show.
I would, if you like strongman or
powerlifting or strength sports of any kind you almost have to watch it because what like yeah
what what are your alternative you know it's almost like i talked to someone that uh they
said to me they're like oh i don't really like strongman but you know this is someone that likes
powerlifting but they're like i watched it it was pretty good i don't i still don't really like
strongman but it's about lifting and it's on television so exactly yeah there's just not much you know, this is someone that likes powerlifting, but they're like, oh, I watched it. It was pretty good. I still don't really like Strongman,
but it's about lifting and it's on television.
Exactly, yeah.
There's just not much of that.
Right.
So I give it a watch recommendation.
Until the plot twist at the end of the first season,
and it might change how you feel about it.
That's true.
It could change how you feel about the writing
the entire season.
If they kill off Brian and Robert Oberst.
How soon they kill off Brian,
it could
have a lot of impact on nick best is over 50 years old though and it's uh that's pretty old
well and to still be doing to do yeah i mean to be doing that stuff it's pretty it's pretty
impressive yeah it is because yeah it's just hard to picture like people even wanting to be doing
that after having a career of any kind in it. No kidding. You think at some point you just say, yeah, this is it.
I've had enough of getting hurt for nominal compensation.
I'm curious what they did get paid, though, for the show.
I mean, is it that Ice Road Truckers money they're taking in?
Or is it more of that Deadliest Catch?
Yeah, that's what I was going to say, Deadliest Catch.
I guess probably less than both of those are those both still i don't do they make new seasons of those
shows i wouldn't be surprised if they do but i will they on like the 20th season of deadliest
catch then i i would think aren't all those guys dead by now it's pretty how deadly is it if they're
not say it kind of makes it not very deadly if it's like no they're all good i don't know maybe
they did maybe people did die i don't know. Maybe people did die.
I don't know.
I think so.
I do remember some of them died, but I think it was more like heart attack, you know, like
SIG.
Yeah, not directly like falling off a boat or anything.
It's more because they chain smoked and, you know, ate canned food.
Life choices more than job hazards.
Right.
Yeah.
You know, my history channel,
just my knowledge of the network
has really gone down
in the last five to ten years here.
I remember growing up
when that channel was actually
history channel.
Yeah.
I remember being a kid
and my grandpa being excited
about the history channel
because he would watch
World War I and II documentaries
and all that stuff.
Do they even have that at all anymore?
I almost feel like
if you saw that on now, you'd be like,
what the hell is wrong here?
That channel is a little bit of a joke at this point, right?
Oh, yeah.
It's just reality TV.
It's just reality TV for guys.
It's really what it is.
Instead of watching rich, famous women spend money on things,
you're watching guys do terribly scripted...
Catastrophes happen in bad scripted ways
and they bail themselves out.
There's obviously got to be some element of realism to it,
but I think for the most part,
it's kind of like it gets played up for the show.
For sure.
So for that reason,
I don't know much about The Never Ending Hour.
This show would be my most exposure to it
in quite a while myself.
Yeah. So that's our review of the history channel and the strongest man in history yep oh the other thing that i did take note of is at the beginning they like gave a little uh
few comments about each of the guys and on robert oberst they say has the world record log press
that's not true was it ever true no he had the american the american record yeah but never had
the world record and i just think it's funny that that slipped through that he had to have
they all four of them had to have saw that they had to have known yeah yeah right So who's considered to still have the world record right now?
Z.
It is still Z?
Yeah.
I couldn't remember if that changed recently.
No, I think it's still Z.
I don't think Oberst has the American record because didn't Rob Kearney break that?
Well, that's because that was the other one I was going to say.
But he didn't break the world record, though, when he got the American record there.
No.
Okay.
Yeah. no okay yeah but speaking of big performances there was another um somewhat uh high profile
event this last weekend with giants live london yeah giants i've seen it called giants live london
and i've also seen it called giants live wimbley but either way a same competition and probably the
the most interesting part of that to me was the finish
of that martinez was third jerry pritchett got second and matthias got first and just the uh
kind of thinking about the parody of the sport now because martinez literally just one world's
strongest man yeah goes to this competition which is not more of like a regional yeah it's
it's a big one but it's it's yeah it's not world strong yeah and he gets third and it's like and i
don't think he it wasn't because he did terrible and he wasn't super disappointed about it didn't
it say wasn't he like fifth going into the last two events i think hercules holding stones and
then he did well on both of those but i just i just do think there is that much paired more you
know the the sport itself has that much more there is that much paired more you know the the
sport itself has that much more parity now that it kind of comes down to the competition the day of
you know there's not someone the events yeah the events yeah yeah it's just tough to say someone's
the world's strongest man because it depends on yeah the events are so do you think that's uh
better more interesting to watch or worse that i actually do think it's more interesting because
it gives you
the, it makes it more like a traditional
sport in the way that anyone
on that day that shows up and
the conditions are right and has their day
can win. Like powerlifting,
me against Dan Green,
I will never beat him.
Like never. So it's not even a
sport, unless he hurts himself squatting.
Well, there's
probably a fair chance of that happening yeah well yes yes and that would be the only like
there's never a reason that if we were in the same weight class that he would i would ever just
have the day of my life yeah it's not going to happen but in strongman you can have guys that
and i'm that's a really extreme example like maybe to dan green but you can have guys that, and that's a really extreme example, like Dan Green, but you can
have someone even in, let's say the 220 pound weight class, the guy that's ranked 10th in
the world and the guy that's ranked first in the world, usually in that range, there's
a big gap.
Yeah.
Even between first and fourth, there can be a pretty large gap.
Yeah.
But like with strong man, you can be maybe considered the first in the world
and the 10th in the world and depending on what the events are that day you know just who's making
mental errors who's doing things who had a drop here and there and you can be 10th in the world
and put together a day and make something out of it yeah uh for powerlifting big dogs might be the
only competition that's actually has that kind of level of competition, where there's probably five guys competing out there that could shuffle around all,
depending on their day.
It could.
It was one meet.
Really, the biggest thing that's still going to come down to there is injury.
Yeah.
If a guy going into it, if his biggest total ever six months ago was 2,300,
he's not going to put 200 pounds on his total.
You have somewhat of an idea going in yeah it's
true um the events are set versus strongman the events are you know there's so many more yeah
powerlifting there's three events so you kind of know and like with strongman some guys major like
asset to their game is their deadlift yep and you might not get just a good conventional traditional
deadlift it might be some kind of weird one and that can screw over that whole part of your strategy
because now people with maybe a weaker deadlift,
it plays more to their strengths in the style that it is.
So I don't know.
I think that makes it more fun to watch because it is more of a who's who type thing.
It's more of a who's showing up that day.
Jerry Pritchett, I saw he said place they're qualified for him for world's
strongest man so it'll be the first year this next year him doing world's strongest man in a
while he hasn't been yeah he competed in there for a few years which i'm always like why isn't
jerry pritchett doing world's strongest man that always kind of annoyed me well but didn't he
or was it an arnold qualifier when they because they had that thing at the pier at Santa Monica. That was an Arnold thing.
That was the Arnold USA this year or whatever.
Because he qualified there, didn't he?
I think he would have maybe qualified by points anyways.
But, yeah, he did ultimately qualify there.
But that was very shortly before the Arnold.
Yes, yes.
But that was an Arnold qualifier.
Part of Giants Live London was one of the events was the Deadlift World Championship or whatever they billed that out.
And that might be the thing that kind of got the most airtime out of all of it.
Right.
Was this the actual spot where Eddie Hall did the 500-kilo deadlift?
I think so.
It was a Giants Live event.
I didn't know if it was this exact one.
And it was like there was a deadlift only.
Yeah, I think it was.
I think basically this was that
event and kind of the thing that i took away from that there was only two i say only like this isn't
impressive but there was only two guys that just broke a thousand uh you know the big thing going
into it is like oh could anyone touch 500 kilograms you know eddie eddie's record and
uh jerry on a second attempt got a thousand and
one or third attempt whatever it was he tried to 1030 i think on his final and didn't get it
but it just shows how far away we really are still from someone ever being able to do that
compared to you know at the at the arnold i don't know was there sean thor did anyone else hit a
thousand at the arnold jf caron maybe he did last year okay
because i didn't think that that is what the elephant bar set up yeah it's a different like
here we're talking actual kilo plates right and a different style bar so it is a it is a different
pull yep um that ronald heinle he did pull a thousand though also and i'm pretty sure he is
the guy do you remember when
Mateus walked by us at the walk by our booth at the Arnold this year he was the guy I talked yeah
I talked to him and he is not the big guy he's not like even Mateus big Mateus no I I think Ronald
was like shorter than me when I talked to him actually like yeah people were Mateus was walking
by and you know i you kind
of get this feeling like he they're with each with each other and ronald was like almost as good as
he is if not better than him in some events but people aren't noticing him because he just doesn't
look like he's not as tall and matthias is just so like broad yeah yeah yeah big but i did talk to
him and he was nice but uh he just doesn't look to me like a guy.
A guy pulling 1,000.
Yeah, Jerry Pritchett looks like a guy that would deadlift 1,000 pounds.
When you stand next to him and you shake his hand and stuff,
it's like, whoa, you are enormous.
Yeah.
So that's impressive to me that he pulled over a grand.
I know that that was a PR for him.
And his actually, if it's the one i'm thinking of
which i believe it was like the thousand one or whatever attempt it looked surprisingly easy yeah
it was a really good dead you know was that his second or third attempt i'm not sure about that
i would almost guess it was his third but i really don't know yeah that one was that was a very uh
very easy pull which makes you think that and and I have no idea how old he is,
but you want to think that with the way that's going,
that it's only going to go up for him.
Yeah, that's what I would sure think.
Wow.
So that was that event.
Oh, Magnus and Kaz went against each other.
They did do that?
Yeah.
I remember talking about that months ago.
I think Kaz hurt himself.
I haven't seen any video on it, but I think he pulled something.
Because I didn't even hear anything on it.
I saw the video of Magnus doing it, and he goes forever.
The Hercules hold.
Oh, it was.
And he held it forever.
Sounds like he still got it.
And I haven't seen Kaz's at all.
I saw in a comment or something that he got hurt, and I wonder't seen kaz's at all i i saw in like a comment or something
that he got hurt and i wonder if he almost didn't get hurt immediately or something like that because
i haven't seen any video of it whatsoever yeah well so magnus won but how old are those guys
we looked that kaz is pretty kaz is quite a bit older than magnus is i think magnus is in his 50s
but kaz was in his like later 60s even
i guess like maybe there's a reason people yeah don't do that strongman stuff even even that event
yeah yeah so i wonder if that'll continue as a thing or not maybe they'll have to go like a
little less just deep into the tank like more recently yeah maybe put like uh versus, you know.
Yeah, like Z who could like potentially just be competing
and like be hanging in there with the guys anyways.
Yeah.
Dig a little less farther into the well than Kaz.
Okay, so then do you know what other events were at this thing?
I know they did.
They finished up with the stone medley, you know, the five stones.
They did the Hercules
hold the deadlift
and then I don't
I don't remember now
well either way
it's still the event
that has like
the like actual
crowd
that shows up
it's an arena of crowd
that like is going nuts
it looks like
just about the coolest
competition that's out there
it does
but Arnold's pretty cool
but it's not
you're in a huge
it's not spectator friendly
no unless you're in like the first couple rows then it's amazing yeah it's, but it's not a huge. It's not spectator friendly.
Unless you're in the first couple rows, then it's amazing.
It's probably about as good as it gets.
Unless you're one of the 100 people in the first 10, 15 feet of seating,
outside of that, the Arnold is not fan friendly,
where this just looks like it is a spectacle. That looks like acers is that really good it's always right is that his name yeah yeah he always is
like the really good announcer that knows how to get people hyped and he knows what's going on and
understand the ins and outs of all of it yes so that would still be that would be a really cool
event to go to someday yeah that would be that would be awesome actually. It looks like the funnest Strongman event that exists,
at least from a spectator sport.
It doesn't look like it gets any better than that, I don't think.
No, yeah, I don't think so either.
Well, Tanner.
What about we haven't reviewed our overrated, underrated from last week yet
to see how you did versus how the people did.
Oh, we didn't.
No, so we have been doing that a little earlier in the show at times.
Okay, okay.
I'm always curious to see, to compare how you did,
how you performed versus how they performed.
Yes, why don't you find that for us here.
Okay, this is from episode 170,
last week's episode of Overrated Underrated.
We pulled the people this week on Instagram like we do every week in our story.
Topic number one was Grey Goose Vodka.
You said overrated.
I did.
The people are resounding 80% overrated.
One of the biggest.
I did notice that.
I didn't know if that was going to hold up.
I'm curious if you just said vodka.
People would have said overrated.
I bet it probably would have been just about as high.
Probably would have been close to 80% too.
But that's huge.
Rarely do I see the percentages get into the 80s.
Okay, straws.
You said...
I said straws were still overrated.
Overrated.
This is pretty close.
Only 57% overrated.
Really?
43% said straws are underrated.
I guess if you're a straw person, you really care said straws are underrated i guess if you're a straw person you really care
about straws someone uh commented um the all these people saying overrated obviously don't have a
beard because they're saying like if you're you know yeah yeah yeah yeah someone did mention that
maybe that was that i could understand that's a large factor at play. Using the word druthers.
Did you see the results of this one at all?
I think it was underrated, wasn't it?
You said underrated.
The people also said 69% underrated.
Pretty far in favor of underrated.
People are on the same page with that one.
I have to imagine that the podcast is a pretty significant influence on the voting of that.
I would assume otherwise
it might not be skewed quite that far in that direction the last topic was i listed it on here
as world cup soccer and the picture was a picture of uh abby morgan and uh see and i still don't
know what yeah i know that that's abby mor Morgan. But she's not even the most popular.
There's this other one that I think she made the game-winning goal.
Now there's something with her and Trump, and I don't even know what it is.
But anyways, the topic was written as World Cup soccer,
and it was a picture of the women's team, I guess.
And you said overrated, I think is what we kind of ultimately said.
I don't care about soccer. And the people voted 56% overrated I can't think is what we kind of ultimately said yeah I don't care about soccer
and that is the people voted 56 percent overrated it doesn't surprise me that much no I don't
disagree but I was kind of expecting that it could could come a little bit the other direction just
because they were world cup yeah yeah yeah just showing some pride for the country there but but
it still does show even though how much soccer has grown in popularity I would say within the united states over the last decade or two but it still does show it was all of
our international listeners just hating on the american it could be well that's true too but
the topic was really just world cup true yeah you'd have to think they would be they would be
like oh yeah way better than the super bowl and all that other stupid crap you guys watch over
there yeah you would think.
So were you... I think I was 4-4-4 there.
Yeah.
That might be one of the first times
that we've been 4-4-4.
Yeah, 4-4-4.
Or they were 4-4-4.
It's always kind of the dilemma is which is which.
Yeah.
Well, see if I can keep that streak alive.
Tanner, we still got a little bit of time here.
Okay. So I want to play a little bit of time here. Okay.
So I want to play a little game with you here, Tanner.
Oh, do you want to play a game?
Yeah, just like that.
Maybe not quite so creepy.
This one might be focused more on the fun side and less on the creepy side.
We're going to make a little return to something called supplement.
Real or fake?
Oh, not fitness is fine.
No.
I'm going to bounce it around here.
Supplements real or fake? You know, just to kind of flip the thing on its head here so i should probably i should probably refresh the rules here for people
supplement real or fake consists of me naming a supplement to tanner tanner then has to decide
if the supplement name is real or fake. It's been a while.
And it has been a while.
Some past fan favorites.
Ejaculoid.
Consisted of ejaculoid, which is real.
Yeah.
I can't even remember a lot of them.
Most of them tend to be sexual enhancement supplements of some kind.
Yeah.
Are surprisingly real.
So, you know, you never know what could happen here, Tanner.
So first on the list, supplement real or fake, Tanner.
First up, we have Full Metal Jacked.
Full Metal Jacked.
Oh, Full Metal Jacked.
The first thing I like to think about is what it is.
And if you're not aware, for listeners that aren't aware,
there is a movie, Full Metal Jacket.
So it is a bit of a play on the name there.
Jacked.
Jacked or Jack 3D.
What do people say?
Jacked.
Sometimes I read it as Jack 3D.
I've heard both.
One of the more infamous supplements, I would say, that has existed out there. The pre-workout that, you know, the joke is if she doesn't remember the original formula for Jack, she's too young for you, bro.
Because I don't know if the original formula had –
Did you ever, ever have it?
I don't remember.
The original formula?
I'm sure I did because at that point in time I took so many different supplements.
And I think maybe –
Does it come in a bottle?
I'll take it.
And what – I can't remember what the stimulant used to be in there because like dmaa or something like that that is supposedly
illegal now yeah right right but because of that i think that it would be a pre-workout supplement
which is actually just my go-to on these if i'm not sure it kind of is the catch-all but that's
why i think it's a pre-workout supplement because of the jacked.
And I think that it's real because, I mean,
that seems exactly like something that they would make.
Tanner, in the return of supplement real or fake, you are so far one for one.
Full metal jacked is real.
This one does get a little tricky.
This was actually submitted quite a while ago by Tyler Effing Stone.
Oh, I've heard of him.
Didn't we have him on the podcast once?
I think he was a guest a couple times on the show, if I remember correctly.
I have trouble remembering back past like six months.
Yeah, we had him on the show like 120 times, didn't we?
Maybe that's what it was.
Yeah, yeah.
He sent me a screenshot on Instagram.
They were running ads at this company, Full Metal Jacked.
I don't know if they got in trouble or what, but I do have the image,
and they have completely disappeared.
So the company that makes it, I don't know if it was a one-off thing
and it changed, but something weird is going on there.
So if you look now, it's very, very hard to even come by it,
but I do have a screenshot.
Otherwise, yeah, I wouldn't believe that.
But what do you figure the turnover is on supplement companies like this anyways?
And then that in general, yeah.
You're starting a supplement company?
Okay.
Well, have fun losing all your money over the course of the next six months.
We'll see if you're here 12 months from now.
Yeah.
What do you think a third of them survive over two years?
The bigger question starts to become, when we start to refer to the supplement industry, are we talking vitamins?
Or are we talking just the fitness?
Yeah, I'm thinking just the fitness.
I would think it's got to be something like 60% to 80% disappear.
Outside of the long-term ones, when you think...
I think they're the only ones that make it. 80% disappear. Yeah. Like outside of like the longterm ones, when you think,
um,
I think they're the only ones that make it the big one.
You know,
the big, like you're like the big 10.
Well,
even like MHP hardly even seems like a thing anymore.
They were like everywhere for a while.
And like,
um,
I can't think of the,
um,
BSN is a big one.
You know,
optimum nutrition,
optimum nutrition.
And, um, like muscle farm now is to me, one of the more up. BSN. You know, optimum nutrition. Yeah, optimum nutrition. And like MusclePharm now is to me one of the more up-and-comers.
And when I say up-and-comer, like they've been around for still a long time.
But CellTech is one that kind of seems like it's maybe disappearing.
That was super popular maybe more like 10 years ago.
But yeah, I wouldn't want to be in that industry.
But also at the same time, if you somehow get some influencer connection.
Well, Redcon1.
That one's very trendy.
Yeah.
Did they even exist two years ago?
Well, maybe two.
They were probably in the planning stage two years ago.
But their marketing, we've talked about it before,
is just their marketing budget is off the chart.
And they also do kind of the, and I think this is becoming more popular for supplements.
Again, we are very much talking as outsiders here.
Yeah.
But they do almost the multi-level marketing thing where you can have.
Be an influencer.
Yeah.
And like the more, the more like your code, the more you sell, the higher tier you get.
And the higher tier you get, you get rewards and kickbacks and things.
And again, it kind of turns into, into well it's not just about supplements now it's about like
trying to be an entrepreneur selling something it's just such a weird thing hey we don't maybe
we won't say the company name but we did get off we did get uh offered a pretty lucrative uh cbd
deal here it wasn't from our target of herbstrong who we've gone after for a while, but we're just weighing the pros and cons of if we could morally go down that path.
So, yep, the offers are out there.
The offers are coming in for us.
So that's Herbstrung.
That's your warning that we're getting targeted by some of your competitors.
So this would be your chance to throw something.
Your chances to buy us up are getting smaller and smaller all the time.
All right, Tanner.
Up next on the supplement real or fake game,
Uncle Richie's Sour Apple Super Pump Max.
Uncle Richie's Sour Apple Super Pump Max.
Would you need to put Uncle Richie's in the in the title i don't know
and what was it super pump max super pump max super because super pump isn't enough yeah
and that uh super pump what what are those nitric oxide supplements that give you more vascular?
Could be that.
Could be a pre-workout.
Oh, wait.
Super Pump Max, though, is also the penis thing.
I forget that it could be the penis thing.
Could be male enhancement of some kind.
I'm going to, on this one, I am going to say it's fake.
But although I feel like it's real, but I'm going to say fake and go out on a limb and say fake.
Uncle Richie's Super Apple.
Sorry.
Uncle Richie's Sour Apple Super Pump Max is real.
I just felt like it was too many things.
It absolutely is too many things.
You're not wrong about that at all.
It's made by, I don't know how you say this, Gaspari Nutrition.
That's Rich Gaspari.
I have purchased.
Actually, I have.
What is that called?
Super Pump Max.
I don't know if I've purchased that exact product, but back in the day when I bought supplements,
I'm talking just probably 10 years ago now, I did buy quite a bit of Gaspari.
And I probably tricked you on this a little bit,anner because the actual name the order they have it in
is gaspari nutrition super pump max uncle richie's sour apple i might have even had i got this wrong
and i may have even had that supplement before or if i haven't i had some variation of that
supplement maybe i know i had a gaspari Nutrition stuff that had labels.
Just like that?
It was kind of low budget, to be honest.
When I saw that, I was like, I don't know.
What is it, though?
Is it a pre-workout?
It's just a pre-workout, yeah.
I'm pretty sure I've had it.
Maybe it wasn't Super Pump Max.
Maybe it was just Super Pump.
I don't even really need to read the description because it's just a pre-workout you know rich gaspari was a bodybuilder okay see and the name
the name wasn't really ringing a bell with me but what do you do yeah okay tanner no looking now
okay next on the list to redeem myself next on the list ultra bull mass gainer. Ultra. Ultra bull. Bull.
Like the farm animal.
Ultra bull.
Ultra bull mass gainer.
We've had two true supplements so far.
But I know we've had.
I have also tricked you by doing all fakes before.
That's why you start to think, well, there's got to be a fake one in there.
Or then I think, well, I bet they're all true again.
Ultra Bull Mask Gainer.
Yep.
Ultra Bull.
Well, I'm going to assume it's a mask gainer.
So it's a shake with a bunch of carbs and shit in it.
Some dense calories, all that goodness.
So would the company call it Ultra Bull?
I'm going to go with...
I was going to say, like in the super training,
they start talking about the bulls that can have ultra muscle mass.
What kind of bulls are those?
I think it's an Ultra Bull.
I don't remember what those are called.
Built like a Belgian blue bull or something.
Yeah, something like that.
I think it's fake
ultra bowl mask gainer not enough lines there needs to be like seven more like seven more it
needs to be uncle yeah she's ultra mask gainer fruit explosion fruit explosion sour uh ultra
bowl mask gainer is fake tanner you are correct out of three. And that one was actually submitted a long time ago by tyzmyatt.
So like Ty's Matt, something like that.
So thank you for that submission, but you were not good enough to trick Tanner.
No.
You're going to have to do something better than that.
You're going to have to do better than that.
So who submitted the Gaspari Nutrition Supermax?
That was my submission.
You just had that one.
I tracked that one down.
So Tyler and Matt, neither of them have.
Neither of them.
You've been the only one able to trick me so far.
I'm the only one that's been able to trick you.
With a supplement that I've even had before.
Exactly.
All right.
Last one, Tanner.
On the list.
Supplement, real or fake?
You are currently two and one.
Final supplement.
Nuclear garbage.
Nuclear garbage. final supplement nuclear garbage nuclear garbage would you want to make a product and call it garbage i don't know would you would you want to make a product called the lip shorts and then
charge that much money for them too touche it's what could go wrong psychology nuclear garbage you know the nuclear neither of the
words tell you anything i don't think about the product as far as being able to guess what it was
like the only thing in any marketing that garbage refers to to me is where it's like
everything but the kitchen sink like if you have a garbage burger it's like they throw everything on
it like it's got the guacamole the the onion, the bacon, the every single thing.
So like, so you're thinking this supplement, it's like a pre-workout.
Yeah.
It's got protein powder in it, but it's nuclear.
So then it's also supercharged.
Yeah.
It's like a supplement on steroids, right?
Well, that just is steroids, isn't it?
Uh, I, I think it's a ridiculous name, but I guess I think it's real.
But I have no idea what it is, but I think it's real.
Well, with all these, Tanner, I'm making the rule now that whatever you pick from now on,
you have to decide what you think that supplement is.
So what do you think that supplement would be if it was real or fake?
I think it's nuclear garbage.
Creatine?
All right.
The fourth and final supplement on supplement real or fake, nuclear garbage, is real.
You are correct, Tanner.
You went three and one in your what is it
i really want to know what it actually is i'm glad i kept a link because i do not remember what it is
was this one that you had found up yeah and i i believe i actually got suggestions for this one
too but okay here it is um on isupplements.com nuclear garbage hardcore anabolic pre-workout reactor.
So when in doubt, it's pre-workout.
That's the helpful rhyme for supplements, real frank.
When in doubt, it's pre-workout.
I do like this.
Okay, so I didn't look at this very close.
Nuclear garbage is the combination of stage three nuclear technology
designed to make this pre-workout supplement even more powerful
than any pre-training supplement. What about the garbage? What is stage three nuclear technology designed to make this pre-workout supplement even more powerful than any pre-training supplement. Okay. What about the garbage? What is stage three nuclear
technology? Well, within minutes of taking nuclear garbage, you feel the neurological surge that
prepares you for some crazy physical activity. Your blood will be surging, yada, yada, yada.
The weight has no chance. This is stage one. That's just stage one holy shit stage two is the bioenergetic reaction that is triggered
thus supplying your muscles with everything needed to blast through the most intense and
grueling workout possible the high octane energy levels produced way down at the cellular level
sure fuel your body like never before a fatigue fighting muscular defense is forming quickly to
destroy the burn that is trying to hold back from your gym carnage.
They should give this to people in the hospital.
I think it could really help them.
Well, it attacks at a cellular level.
That's where you need it.
Tanner, we're not done with stage 2 yet.
We're still in stage 2.
This is still stage 2.
Soon after, vasodilation occurs, opening the floodgates to your muscles, allowing vital nutrients and minerals to engorge your muscles, swelling them to the max.
Like this almost sounds like something you don't want to happen to you the more it goes on.
Like I saw Chernobyl.
I think the same thing happened to people that were in the reactor when this all went down.
Muscle cells begin to expand mid-workout, thus helping to create greater contractile leverage, strength, and improved
muscle size.
Now you're wondering, what the hell is stage three?
What is left?
Nuclear stage three has begun.
Through maximized protein synthesis, improved nitrogen balance, and reduced oxidative stress,
nuclear garbage can help you enjoy unbelievable muscle growth like you've only imagined.
Only high levels of training and muscle teardown can result in massive muscle gains and improved strength
uh nuclear garbage basically does these things what they're saying wow so um that's nuclear
garbage how do you write like how do you make a supplement and then say all that shit like
so i must it must be three different things because oh i like their ingredient list
in the ingredient list there's the nuclear g stage one detonator there's the nuclear g stage
two reactor and there's the nuclear g stage three fusion and each one really hammering home on the
terminology they absolutely are so um, you can get that on
isupplements.com. 20 bucks.
It only has one review.
How many stars?
Five star review.
The review, the title is
Insane Workout. The description or the review
actually says, this product
made me clinically insane.
Also delivered a great workout five stars
uh and that's i think what you want out of a uh any self uh respecting pre-workout there also is
the garbage all-day performance sports drink so there must be a garbage must be a brand couldn't
they just instead of writing everything they wrote there be just say it has a lot of caffeine in it.
You would think, and more vitamin B than you probably would ever need ever.
Yeah, the garbage sports drink.
I don't think the writing is quite as creative on it, but there's a whole garbage line.
So you guys can look for that one if you're really interested.
But Tanner, we are at the 47 minute mark
should we hop back into uh we gave we gave everyone a little teaser of over under maybe
we should give them the real deal now we better get into this week's the the new news of overrated
underrated uh we got some good topics up this week too much like every week but yeah uh i don't think
anyone's ever left overrated underrated disappointed no, not at all. That's the thing about overrated, underrated.
You always leave satisfied.
Okay, overrated, underrated.
Going to hit up the FAQ this week.
Okay, okay.
Because there's been some questions.
Question number one, probably the most important.
Can Tommy come up with his own over-under topics?
Short answer is no.
It's not suggested or preferable, but under special special circumstances it could be petitioned to be allowed i don't think i've created my own topic yet i'm
kind of afraid people want to know yeah but yes people obviously don't want to go through the
process yeah because it's not allowed well it is allowed yeah technically maybe under the rules
like it could be uh can the rules change? Well, yes, the rules are fluid.
They are a living, breathing organism that can evolve and does evolve with time.
As we know.
That is a good set of rules.
It's a growing organism.
They typically get longer.
Okay, topic one, overrated or underrated.
I think you're going to like exploring this one.
True crime podcasts, overrated or underrated.
All right, Tanner.
It's a good topic.
There is a lot to explore here.
So at their best, true crime podcasts at their best are maybe the best podcasts.
They might be the best podcasts.
It's an amazing story.
Probably by the statistics they probably i don't
know probably the most popular yeah especially when they hit big yeah like it's a crazy mystery
there's like it's the type of thing like at their best you're thinking there's no way like this is
real people like you wouldn't like if someone wrote this you wouldn't believe it because it's
so outlandish and crazy yeah um but But with that, because it is so popular,
there's been this whole wave and surge of just unlimited.
Like, you just can't, you almost can't,
actually, you couldn't physically listen to all the true crime podcasts
and documentaries and all that.
There's just so much of it.
What was the question?
True crime podcasts overrated?
True crime podcasts.
I do believe that true crime podcasts are probably overrated
just because it is probably one of the biggest genres of the podcast medium in general.
Serial.
And serial has done some amazing –
you could probably say serial is the reason things like Making a Murderer exist and all of those.
I can say that I'm entertained most when they are the most critically acclaimed ones.
And then outside of that, when people are like, oh, yeah, this one's pretty good.
You should check it out.
Or this one's not too bad.
I have a hard time with some of those.
They get – It's like,
oh yeah,
these are shitty people that did bad things.
Like,
well,
and they have this thing that they do where they chase the,
uh,
who's the person talking like,
like the host of the show or whatever you call it.
Yeah.
They go down this rap.
They take you down this rabbit hole that them as creating the show,
they already know the answer to the rabbit
hole and they're taking you down this thing what is it don't they call like a red herring or
whatever yeah it's like it's like it was just kind of like a trick right and i get it like
tv shows can do that to me because it's just kind of a tv show but when you know the answers
if you're going to do some big elaborate like if that actually happened and you were generally
confused and you're reporting like yeah i went after all this yeah yeah like if it was just like
oh and this happened and they're setting up just to like be like well i was just
yeah and i feel like some that are out there they do too much yeah yeah they take like what the
original popular ones do and they like overdo yeah like they get they get away from more of
the kind of reporting and just more into like the storytelling part of it.
And like you can tell,
like almost making like fan fiction of like this crime.
Yes.
But yeah, I would say,
I think they are overrated,
but at their best, I do enjoy them.
Yeah, yeah.
I agree with that answer.
Overrated or underrated electric cars?
I can answer this. I think electric cars are underrated electric cars i i i can answer so i think electric cars are underrated
um there's i i know like there are things online of people like hating electric cars and
i mean look at a tesla it's a pretty crazy machine like what science is capable of like
building like engineering like just yeah just maybe just the mechanical engineering,
like feet of building these things. They're an insane vehicle.
And I would love to have one. It'd be super awesome.
And they have all these crazy things they can do, you know,
with autonomous driving and all that. And then at the end of the day,
like why wouldn't we want to explore options that just maybe make the world
just less polluted. However you feel about global warming.
I think we would
all agree we don't like pollution right so like what what's what's wrong with having less pollution
just wanting things to be better yeah um and that's not to say gas cars suck because a lot
of people have that mentality it's either electric cars or gas cars are the worst or gas cars are the
best and electric cars are the worst there's always for a long time still there's going to
be a spot for both of them.
Yeah.
And our gas, diesel, just fuel, you know, fossil fuel cars.
They're both going to be around a long time.
And I don't think anyone's trying to make them completely illegal, you know, by any means here.
But I think electric cars are underrated.
I'd like to see some more crazy stuff happen in there.
The reason this topic came up, this is an interesting little story to share i think uh i was talking with my brother-in-law this uh last last week they were
here visiting and he is uh i would say very liberal like he and his wife both are and i'm more
i don't wouldn't say i'm you don't get into politics on this show yeah i'm like i don't
that's that's the truth i'm like i don't care but i do like uh you know maybe some conversations like this where
i like it because i don't have a side so i can i just like to hear you know how facts about it and
you know be able to make uh make an opinion on it and um so i'm saying he's very liberal he's
actually like an editor for a paper paper that probably maybe even liberally biased, I would say.
But anyways, his point on electric cars, we were talking about electric cars.
We were talking about Tesla, actually, because my 8-year-old son always says he wants a Tesla.
And I always tell him, well, you're getting a 2003 Buick LeSabre.
You can put like a Tesla.
He said, once you sit behind a wheel, you'll get it.
I'm like, Nikola Tesla didn't have anything on Mr. Buick.
Yeah, whatever Mr. Buick's first name was.
Anyway, I want to end it there.
We were talking about electric cars, and he brought up the point.
And I bring up the politics side of it because electric cars are almost like a politically charged issue.
Because it's this environment thing.
It's like conservatives.
And that's what politicians do is they make it – they have to make every issue black and white.
You can't just be like, well, I think maybe electric cars would be cool.
It's like, well, either you're killing the environment or you're killing oil jobs.
And him being liberal, I expected that to be what he –
I kind of expected them to be like well yeah
we should be driving like you know be in support of it for those reasons but he i had never
considered this and i don't i don't know i've never heard anyone say it i'm sure people talk
about it as a talking point but the manufacturing of them well that would be part of it i guess that
would play into it but more so it is if you have an electric car you
have to charge it well yeah and yeah yeah and you currently have to charge it based off of fossil
fuels right now right it's it all depends on how your electricity is being where that power is
coming from and he said if i buy an electric car and where i live if i charge that our power comes
from coal so it's, and they actually say,
some say that it's actually a net loss on carbon.
Right.
Right.
And I get that argument too.
I guess in maybe my optimistic viewpoint of the world,
you want to think like,
Oh,
maybe if we start just being more concerned about green technology,
we'll start to invest more and find the right path.
We'll start to invest more in solar and wind and just be more conscious and then there is also the other thing
of people can like say oh i love gas i love oil that stuff but also where does a lot of our gas
and oil come from it's like what's what's wrong with like not wanting to give more money overseas
right what's wrong with like wanting to be more have a more domestic energy policy and i like the
idea of just like the tech not like just like the technology will come out of it
that is applicable to other things.
Just battery technology getting better in general is a win for everyone.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm sure some people listening to this already got pissed about one thing or another,
but I guess I don't think there's anything wrong with just people, science,
people doing things, learning more things,
and yeah, more good things are going to come out of it.
So I still say electric cars are underrated.
The current situation might not be ideal, but let's be optimistic here.
And Teslas are pretty cool.
They are really cool.
Yeah, no doubt about that.
So it is cool to make them cool.
I'm in favor of making them cool.
I'd much rather have a Tesla than a Prius.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
For sure, yeah.
Okay, underrated or overrated?
Stranger Things.
Have you watched Stranger Things season one and two, Tanner?
One and two, yes.
None of three, I believe.
I have not watched season three yet either.
I did see that was out.
And this isn't season specific.
This is tricky because I enjoy Stranger Things.
But the question is, is it overrated or underrated?
And it's also a show that a lot of people enjoy.
I think you'd be safe saying
it's one of Netflix's biggest shows,
probably in their top, for sure in their top five,
probably maybe even in their top three.
But is it overrated or underrated?
That is the real question there.
It's hard to know without knowing where us not having seen season three.
And I haven't seen season three.
Because that could be crucial to the...
I don't feel so strongly on this one that I have a big opinion.
You really got me right in the middle on this one, Tanner.
This is almost what I want to say.
But we do know that as we've reviewed the rules, you do have to...
I do have to make a decision.
Appropriately rated is not an option.
It is not, and that's why I'm going to make a decision.
I have to refresh people on that because people always want to say things are appropriately rated.
You don't get to do that here.
Yep, and I do want to make a decision.
I wish I could watch season three and get back to you
because I feel like that would maybe change my thing
because you can see like, all right, are they milking the series here or do they have fresh content?
That would be my concern with the series that it's like, all right, this should probably be ended.
Well, because yes, because if I watch season three and I was like, well, okay, that was not needed.
Then I'm immediately saying the whole thing was overrated, just ended at two and be done with it.
Man, this is one of the tougher ones. Just end it at two and be done with it.
Man, this is one of the tougher ones.
I don't have an answer really for it.
I don't have to answer. I think I'll still go that Stranger Things is underrated
because I still actually do talk to a decent number of people
that haven't watched it, which makes me think it hasn't.
It definitely hasn't hit Game of Thrones popularity level or anything.
I still think it's underrated and it's worth getting Netflix to watch it.
I do like the nostalgia thing.
And the nostalgia, the music, it is all very, very entertaining and fun.
So I'm going to go underrated.
Underrated.
Final topic of overrated or underrated this week.
Overrated or underrated?
Bottled water.
Oh, bottled water.
It's so overrated.
So overrated.
water it's so overrated so overrated uh like the the only time bottle water is underrated is when you're in a pinch and you don't have water and that is your only way of getting water
that's the only time bottle water is underrated otherwise bottle water is always always always
always overrated especially now with like the number of like hydro flasks and yetis and massonomics flex
flasks just those things there's so many reasons that you don't need to buy bottled water on top
of again the pollution thing like just let's just be less shitty about just throwing making more
garbage than we need to so we've had a lot of uh pollution Is the bonus question pollution overrated, underrated?
But, yeah, I'm going to say bottled water is very overrated.
Overrated.
Do you remember our scripted Flex Flask commercial that we used to? Oh, yeah.
Might have to bring that back.
That's like a retro piece now.
Yeah, we'll have to bring that back.
We'll bring that back one of these days.
Just kidding, it wasn't scripted.
It was completely off the cuff.
It was off the cuff,
but it seemed scripted
is what you're trying to say.
If you're relatively new
to the show,
you might want to go back
and listen to episodes,
I don't know,
like 30 to 90.
It's somewhere in there.
Just somewhere in there
you'll catch it.
Just start going through those.
If you listen to,
put our podcast on play,
start it out,
episode one,
and let it run continuously.
You'll hit it sometime.
It would take you over a week to listen to it to if you listen to it 24 hours a day your ears would bleed
your head wouldn't work yeah dude you'd say did i just take nuclear garbage or am i on
am i a week deep i'm so strung out on mass economics i never want to hear those guys talk
again uh that does wrap up Overrated Underrated, though.
Another excellent segment at Overrated Underrated.
And, of course, that means it wraps up the Massonomics podcast for the week.
That wraps up Episode 171.
I would refer everyone to our store.
We talked about the Don't Curl In Me shirt at the beginning of the podcast.
We better talk about it again.
It's so good it's worth talking about twice.
You'll want it.
The mic is in front of me so you can't see it.
No one's been able to see it this whole hour then.
Man, we weren't thinking.
So that's our store.
We've got all the other classics in there.
We're pretty well in stock on just about everything right now,
all of our parody shirts.
Oh, Tanner, I'm not trying to cut you off on the sales pitch here,
but the race for first comment
is getting great.
It has actually,
it has actually jumped,
it has jumped waters.
It is now an international contest.
It is.
This week,
places one,
two,
three,
and four
were all separated
by three seconds.
Which is nuts.
Like,
it makes no sense
how that's even possible.
It actually took a little investigative work and screenshots by people to figure out who actually even won first comment.
It was, the jury did resolve that it was Big James Swimhack Strickland that won this week.
He assured me he accidentally gets it every week.
He did tell me that.
So he's not trying that hard.
It just accidentally happens that way.
I don't think it's by no accident.
trying that hard it just accidentally i don't think it's a it's by no accident uh so yeah that is heating up and there's probably at least 10 people vying for it this week too so the comment
they actually i actually laughed out loud reading the comments seeing how tight the race was making
top three and people saying first oh no maybe i'm yeah yeah making top three very hard making top
five at this point is very hard you better be within about the first minute to make top five yeah uh that does also we are within very close reaching
distance of 1 000 subscribers now i think we're within about seven let me ask you this
we have 993 subscribers oh what did i say? Podcast? I mean YouTube. YouTube, yeah, yeah, yeah.
On YouTube, we want to break 1,000 on YouTube.
We're within, I think, seven right now.
On Instagram, we have 19,700.
700.
Oh, yeah.
What one will happen first?
Yes.
Will we get seven more YouTube subscribers, or will we get 300 more Instagram followers?
I do think that is actually a close race.
Which do you think?
We'll review next.
Maybe we won't know the answer next week or not, but we'll check back in on it.
I want to say Instagram.
You think we'll get 300 more before 700 more?
That could have been an over-under right there, Tanner.
Wow.
I don't know.
That'll be really close.
I think we'll hit the thousand on YouTube just because seven is so few.
Probably, yeah.
But if we just had one post, sometimes
we can have one thing on Instagram that makes it jump
300. We can have just two good posts in a day
and it'll have 300 followers. It's possible.
It'll be a tight race. It will be.
But if you are listening and not subscribed
on YouTube, you could kick over there and
I know there's some of you out there. And be that seventh person.
Yeah. Special prize to you
if we can determine who
it was. But but yeah subscribe on YouTube
Facebook of course like us on there
email
list would be the other thing that we don't always
bring up make sure to when you're on the website
you can either go to the bottom of the page or it'll prompt you
when you're out there sign up for our email list
you never know when there might be email offers coming your way
is that about
I think that's it
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