Massenomics Podcast - Ep.35: Mag Grips & Mexico

Episode Date: December 4, 2016

We traded in our DeFea this episode for a younger model with a few extra inches in height but a few less inches in hair.  Flyin' Ryan joins us to discuss the cinematic classic "Heavyweights" starring a ripped Ben Stiller.  We dig into Tyler's recent trip south of the boarder.  Did he do fitness things there? Or did he just curl cervezas? This also marks the second week that we dive into Tanner's sack and find out what he's got stuffed in there.  This time we find MAG Grips (Maximum Advantage Grips). Watch this episode in full color video ..... Or check out the super-high quality audio version below.. Make sure you LIKE the Massenomics Facebook page... If you don't already have a closet full of Massenomics gear, go to the MASSENOMICS STORE and load up on swag... Also, please CLICK THIS LINK TO GIVE US A 5 STAR RATING ON ITUNES... Click this text to follow Massenomics on Instagram... Vote Massenomics for President in 2016... Have your barber shave our logo into the side of your head.. Maybe get a Massenomics tattoo while you're at it.    Or you could sign up for our email newsletter at the bottom of this page. Stay Strong, M

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We have special guest. Just kidding. This is just Tommy sitting next to me here. Hey, Tommy. Hey, how's it going? Actually, I would... What does he say? What's going on?

What up? What up? What up? We have Tommy's brother. we have the handsomer of the deface thank you is that arguably arguably i don't think there's anything to argue about i think it's just the way it is it kind of i mean i don't know it just depends on what you're into that's true some some ladies aren't into the height or the the height and some maybe aren't into all that hair i'm sure there's some people that don't find either one of us attractive you

know that's it could happen i don't find either one of us attractive. You know, that's, it could happen. I don't know. I find that pretty hard to believe. Okay, well, coming from two guys, two men. We just like to watch a lift. Thank you. In a weird way, but yes. Last time you were here, the studio was upstairs.

There was no video. And now we're downstairs. We can look really uncomfortably, the studio was upstairs. There was no video. And now we're downstairs. We can look really uncomfortably into the camera. Yeah. There we are. There it is. So that's what we look like. Pretty sweet.

If you're watching this on YouTube, hello. If you're listening to this, check it out on YouTube. And if you think we're ugly, go back to listening to this. And you having trouble there? Oh, I had it pushed in i had it you're good now too far it's good now if you haven't heard i would say we have this problem every single episode at least once that we have uh the headphones our stuff only i have like half my chords are the wrong chords so we'll only get one ear in our headphones until we sort of unplug the headphones just a little bit.

Mainly because we don't... It's a really sweet spot. Yeah. Mostly because we don't spend any actual money on this podcast at all. What? Yeah, no one's buying our shirts. Speaking of buying our shirts, go to massanomics.com and buy some of our shirts. With money.

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Never. Speaking of identity theft. You just got back from Mexico. I just got back from Mexico. And I'm going to cancel all my credit cards now. Oh, no. No, I don't have any issues there but um i did just spend a week in mexico and a day and a half in the atlanta airport

so what part was more fun the best way to end any vacation we i i think i've explained the travel arrangement before right where my wife works at the airport so we can only fly when there's open seats so there was no fucking open seats anywhere. So traveling that way, like you can spend six days in just wonderful relaxation and have a wonderful time, and then when you're done, just getting home can fucking ruin all of it. You know, you can come home worse off than you were. We were real close.

Yeah. Real close. We ended up flying to wisconsin like late late late late last night and then got up super early and were able to get to minneapolis and then back home so but mexico is pretty awesome it's also kind of shitty in some places but uh the beaches are pretty sweet and the beer was was pretty cheap, too. What about Taco Bell? Is the Taco Bell very good there? What's better there, Taco Bell or Taco John's?

That is true. It could be a regional kind of thing. You know what I just forgot, guys? That West Mex? Maybe a little more Mex in Mexico. I didn't notice it until I turned it off, but my furnace has been running this entire time. It's been loud as shit. I take my sweatshirt off.

It's getting kind of hot in here. I'm going to turn that off while you guys talk about the argument between Taco Bell and Taco John's. I was just going to say, oh, look at me. My name is Tyler. I control my furnace from my cell phone. Yeah, what is that? What year are we in here? 2030?

It's the Jetsons. Do you know how a robot made? I may or may not have a bit of a background in heating and air conditioning. Do you work for Spacely Sprockets? I don't know anything else about the Jetsons, so I don't know. That was it. He has a dog name. What's the dog's name?

Elroy? I don't know if that's the son or the dog. No, that's the son, isn't it? I think. I don't know. I haven't seen that show in a long time. It's a lot better than the Flintstones, though. What do you like better, Jetsons or Flintstonesintstones i don't know i haven't seen either one i watched the flintstones

movie like the live action movie not too long ago and you mean like the 1997 john goodman yeah yeah is that the one with rick moranis yep and then ozio donald and kyle what's his face kyle mclaughlin he's like the bad guy, I guess you could say. Like Halle Berry. Halle Berry is his secretary. Yeah, his sexertary. Yeah, right. But good movie.

God, just not good at all. It's like one of those movies when you're a kid, like, oh, this is cool. And then you get older and you watch it and you just, how did I ever like this? It sucks. What about another movie that just came out on Netflix? Heavy heavyweights oh that holds up that is yeah that's that i would say that's even better just yeah and not that the humor is even very you know mature or anything

like there's just some stuff as a kid like that's funny and then like watch it again like this is so stupid like when he's like the beginning when he gets to the camp and he's like uh i snuck in some oreos like okay download chipmunks download yeah and then it's like all these kids just scrambling and putting this candy away and all these like hiding spots and then the kid hey hey kid get over here get these salamis off my back and he's just like deli meats with tape to his back it's like fat kids even want like just like warm deli meat salami i don't know maybe that's a truth yes the answer is yes they do that also i think i think that is as funny of ben stiller in that as you're ever gonna yes we were talking about that the other

day like the character the character in that movie and then the character in dodgeball are basically the same guy. Yeah, he really is. He's like, oh, just be that guy I was six years ago. Okay, I'll do that again. Some fitness expert that's just crazy and terrible with people. He wasn't big, but he was... Versus now, I was like, wow, Ben Stiller was kind of ripped. I was a little bit surprised.

He looked pretty athletic. Yeah. But yeah, that is the funniest Ben Stiller that you're going. I was a little bit surprised. He looked pretty athletic. But yeah, that is the funniest Ben Stiller that you're going to ever see. It doesn't ever get better than that. I love the part where they're introducing him at the beginning, and he comes out and he's like, being homeschooled my whole life, this is actually my first time interacting with children.

What would make a person even want to run a camp like that it just makes no sense well he was just making a promotional video though isn't oh that's true yeah the ulterior motive percus percus sizing fucking tony percus feeling skinny uncle tony oh that's another thing yeah lars oh we were talking about like how the the fitness like tony percus percus sizing people were like like what were we saying the other day like well I just thought like Lars that character is supposed to be like a big guy yeah and I

sat at home and watched it the other day with my wife and I was like I think I remember that thinking that guy was big and he's just like he just has good posture like walks with his arms like this yeah I'm pretty sure he probably has never lifted before. So if you want to look huge, you just have to have solid posture.

He's very upright. Like a German actor. Was it supposed to be a really weak play on Arnold? No, he doesn't look anything like him. I don't know. You can tell that he was supposed to kind of be big and intimidating but it just wasn't but it actually never even says where he's from because they're like lars like he introduced himself like all the kids are laughing they're like oh where are you

from and he's like far away like he never even says like where he's from and then they put the honey on him when he's like tied up in the woods at the end of the movie yeah i love you trying to be their friends so we've talked about heavyweights we're eight minutes into our heavyweights conversation in this episode this is a good movie though still it does carry judd apatow i think it was actually his first movie that he directed you might know him no shit the 40 year old virgin or some of first movie that he directed. You might know him from The 40-Year-Old Virgin or some of the other movies that he makes that are a half hour too long. Bridget Jones Diary 2?

Yeah. All of the child's play movies. That are a half hour too long? Is that what you're going to say? What's child's play? Is that the babies that talk? Chucky. Oh, okay.

Those baby pieces. No, look who's talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look who's talking too. No, I do like his movies. Funny People look who's talking. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look who's talking, too. No, I do like his movies. Funny People, that's a good one. That's one of those movies where people always say that it's way too long because it just drags on, but I don't know.

Yeah. Movie stuff. Movies. This is dragged on too long. Yeah. Yeah, we've got – so basically, guys, we've got 50 more minutes. We're just just gonna talk about west world and uh that's gonna be it well i've never watched that i mean let's talk about it

i want to say something else like about a month or two ago you guys were kind of talking about um how you need to start no strange oh yeah yeah yeah and now i've since watched stranger things yeah so i'm just gonna be at kind of like two or three months behind whatever it's pretty cool right when i thought you were gonna say that you just started watching Breaking Bad or something like that. No, no, I haven't seen Breaking Bad. We can talk about that. Right when it finally becomes officially played out, nobody gives a shit. Yeah, then it's like, oh, Tanner's going to be like, guys, can we talk about that again?

We should do the mannequin challenge. Yeah. Let's wait on that. Okay, we want to wait until it's a little cooler, like a little more in. wait on that okay we want to wait till it's a little cooler like a little a little more in but yeah so i uh i went to mexico and that was i left like the morning actually technically the night i finished the we had a partner's crossfit competition at our gym in town which obviously i'm not physically like equipped for if you're watching on video I'm built like your average crossfit fella just like plus a foot and a half I'm like two I'm like two I'm like two

like what if you just stacked a couple on top of each other yeah so put a trench coat on them so I've already kind of like like just barely keep going sorry sorry I just barely got through like a couple week long or like just kind of this back thing and i was fucking i think getting pretty beat up from a long time or just going constantly so it's like i'm gonna take it easy get this competition survive it and then just not do shit while i was in mexico which doing going a week without doing anything is pretty unheard of for me going really going more than two days anything is pretty unheard of for me going really going more than two days off is pretty unheard of so um i feel fantastic i don't know if all of the drinking that i did probably was in my best interest but um are you gonna work out tomorrow

yeah how do you think it's gonna go are you gonna feel that's gonna suck i think what are you gonna do i think you think your body's gonna feel fresh my body will feel fresh i think my deadlifts and squats will probably feel okay um but when i get into some conditioning is where i mean do you have some some booze that'll sweat out for a couple days i usually have like one day of punishment like if i party on a friday or saturday night my monday fucking is just you still still feeling it yeah like especially when you get to some conditioning like i i'd have to pay for it on that day and then i can move on but a week this will be a bad day for sure because i mean we were i mean there was some days that I got drunk like three separate times in one day.

Yeah. You know, so after a while, it's hard to really be drunk. Like, like if you're on vacation, it only takes kind of always drinking. It only takes more booze,

which is even more taxing on you. But it wasn't uncommon to have like, you know, a couple of bloody Mary's and a couple of beers before we'd go to the beach by 10 a.m and then maybe like eight beers by one and then come back and one of the days their wives both my buddy who went down with us our wives decide to nap after lunch so they go up they go to the condo they nap like well we'll just go down to the pool which is in our there. And we'll just hang out at the pool while you guys nap. And they nap for like an hour and a half, two hours.

And they come down to the pool when we're done. And we were completely fucking housed. So they went to sleep. It was probably from all the sun. Yeah, I'm sure. But they weren't terribly impressed that we were like wasted like not really all that able to crawl out of the pool you had too much fun you had to wear a life jacket to be in the pool that's all messed up you were that was that was that was real get

your wings on but um what do they what do you drink for beer there? It's awful. Dos Equis and Tecate or Sol. Yeah. Do they have any American domestic beers? You could get some American beer at the Walmart, but because it's imported, it's so much more expensive. It's not worth it. Yeah. Whereas you can get... I mean, the money thing was really confusing for me, too.

How about Corona? Is that... I don't think that's very Mexican. Really? It's really not. It wasn't in any any of the places they're not finding their beach in mexico that's just one of those i think it's like a texan mexican beer that's just one of those things that americans decide is like yeah just like taco bell like the like the cancun airport has a huge corona like the tower is painted with the corona logo but who knows how long that deal's been around they also have like four jumbo jets that are 30 years old rusted and bombed out like sitting

right next to the runway like just looking is that what you flew on looking fucking scary as shit um yeah it's a cool place until you get too far off the beaten path that's for minutes then you experience some yeah we got we had to walk to that we went to a grocery store because the walmart was we got a tip from a fellow traveler like you got to go to this is the local grocery store it's big it's really nice here's where it is and we thought we were close to it but i get all confused with kilometers and such so we just started walking according to my gps and then it started getting dark and like there's wild dogs and lots of them and so like one crazy dog tried to attack one of us and it was like behind a cage or like in an alley where it was caged off sort of. And yeah, pretty, that was.

It was those salamis you had. I knew I shouldn't have smuggled all this American salami. And then you guys got back to the hotel and you're like, chipmunks, download. Get these salamis off my back. But we found this place. So I bought like shit, three bottles of liquor, two cases of beer, shit for breakfast for a few days worth of breakfast. And I don't know, like just kind of a lot of stuff.

And it was like $30. Nice. $30 American dollars? $30 American dollars. What's that in Canadian? I don't know Canadian, but I think it's like 10,000 pesos. Actually? No. I mean, I really don't know. It's like, I don't know Canadian, but I think it's like 10,000 pesos. Actually? No.

Oh, no. I mean, I really don't know. It's like 20 to 1 down there. So, Tyler, you've recently gone north of the border. You've just gone south of the border. What's next? What other border could we possibly go? I am hopefully going to California in two weeks.

Okay. I don't want to drop that. That's in America. I don't want to, not technically. Not for long, apparently. Was there a wall yet? I think it's up already. I think they're working on it.

That'll happen overnight. I did listen to a podcast that was, you know, not political and I don't care about that, but just something I thought was interesting. They had a masonry contractor, a guy out of Texas that does really large jobs. I think the longest wall he had built was still only five miles long or something like that. But he was working on estimates of what it would actually cost to do it. And they really never did get to a final number because he was actually trying to work with uh future president trump on like maybe he wants to get like be contracted and for the rest of his life yeah yeah but it sounded

insane like unfathomable amounts of money required to do to do that i don't i think the only way it could cost more money is if you made the wall out of money you know yeah that might even save we're on to something uh so how about your the crossfit competition that you did though what what i mean i i was there i went and checked it out it was the first one of those i've seen in person so i kind of know what you did but these people listening might not know yeah it was cool so the way the way we did it was we're kind of a smaller gym so it was basically like uh it was all partner it was like partner workouts because if you if you have an individual competition you end up needing twice as many judges and you're running twice as many heats and so doing a partner is a

little more fun anyways and actually made it more suitable for me because my i need rest so doing partner workouts i can kind of like do my turn and suck and my partner will be fresh and they go and so um it was pretty good the stuff that was in my wheelhouse we did pretty well at you know there was an assault bike and snatch workout so that was you know we did pretty well in that one and then there was a front squat max front squat double workout so that was kind of our did you win that we did win that did you that's good when uh when tyler goes on the assault bike it's kind of like oh man what's he doing to that poor bike like like at any time you could you could just rip the handles i kind of picture like in a movie the camera would shoot to like the shaky bolt on the side that's about ready to

come out and then all of a sudden the whole thing like we actually just just got those a few weeks ago too so when i was starting we were starting like derrick before i got on it derrick was like don't break it no they're like they're like re-tightening everything before they let me back on it yeah and um i i don't think that's the way it's supposed to be like i don't break it no they're like they're like re-tightening everything before they let me back on it yeah and um i i don't think that's the way it's supposed to be like i don't know if maybe they just didn't use all the right tools when they put them together the first time but um what so so those things are meant to be like if you're a big strong guy like the three of us would probably be better than most of the guys at our CrossFit gym at that type. At a sprinting for calorie output.

Yeah. To do like 20 calories for time. Being huge is like, because you can just put your mass and your strength into it. If I had to go more than that amount of time, then it's fucking over. Very tired. You know. Part of it though, watching watching i had the thought like yeah i mean you're bigger but i was just like just seems like he's trying harder

i'm like he's because i'm like he's bigger but i know those other people could move their arms faster than they are right part of it is maybe if if you haven't experienced the difference between the two and that's the key too so like i tell everybody like that there's a there's a drop off like if you're watching on the on the youtubes like it doesn't go like this the faster you go it doesn't just translate into more calories in time like that it's actually a pretty gnarly curve it scoops up really dramatically above about 75 or 80 rpms so if you had to go for the most amount of calories in say i don't know a minute a sprint say a minute as many calories you get in a minute you're actually better off doing like 85 calories for 10 seconds

and then slowing down to 50 calories get your shit together and then sprint you know doing that like maybe one tenth of the time or one fifth of the time sprinting and the rest kind of resting then you would be if you did like 70 rpms the whole way yeah so you want to be up in that red line if you're trying to put out calories and um so it is easier to do when you're huge, but for sure, you know, cause you're just moving something faster. Yeah. Um, but yeah, like, cause I've seen, we've done some workouts and I've seen guys that are way, way, way fitter and have way better cardio and everything than I do. Um, that there's things I can do in like after a certain point that I can do in 15 to 16 seconds that will take them like a minute and a half, you know.

And that's a son of a bitch. When you're dying and you're dying on that thing for a minute and a half, you're just better off to get fresh, kill yourself on it, recover afterwards, than just let it drain you forever. And the way it works, like in that competition, the monitor on the bike, correct me if I'm wrong on this but it tells you calories burned and you're going once you yeah and that doesn't really mean no no but that's what you're doing in the competition and there's no tenth of a calorie it's just a full calorie single number so what you don't really know like well yeah that's

when i was watching people i could pick up on that was happening because you don't know when you're at 19.9. And then you can just kind of coast out. And when you start to really suck air and just really drag ass, one calorie can take five, six seconds, which is a long time when you're suffering. So that bit becomes really bad. You're like, we're at 19. Oh, no. Oh, no. becomes really bad you're like we're at 19 oh no oh no whereas when i if i go as fast as i can i'll just when i see 19 i stop because the work's already been put in it'll give me that calorie by

the time it slows by the time it winds back down so on the assault bike was did you go and then your partner went and you were done no this this one you actually had to do almost everything else we did was like you would go yeah then your partner would go then you would go this one i had to do all the work and then my partner had to do all the work and it was like 21 calories on the bike 21 they're really really light power snatches and then 15 cal on the bike 15 snatches and then nine and nine um but i had to pay my partner back by giving him a pretty good lead because the workout before that was we each had to run a half a mile with a 20-pound medicine ball, which didn't sound as bad

as it was. For something that anybody can probably do if you have a 20-pound medicine ball, that's fucking terrible. And my partner is kind of a runner and he's pretty strong so he smokes everybody i get that ball with like 150 yard lead and i was like maybe maybe i'm not gonna totally fuck this up and so i get going through and i get get through the first lap so was it 400 meters down and 400 back it was it was well sort of it was basically two 400 meter laps okay the way we do it we have to meters down and 400 back? It was, well, sort of. It was basically two 400-meter laps. Okay. The way we do it, we have to go down and back with where we're at.

So it's like a 200 one way, 200 back. I just wondered because sometimes that's different. Like that lap, like how long the laps are. The first lap I was still in front of everybody. And then by the time I got to another 200 yards, I had been passed by the guy who ended up winning because he runs like a deer and then in the last 200 yards everybody passed me and i lost by about 100 yards like i could not have shit the bed harder so did you make it about 600

pretty good and then like the last 200 was terrible you know i made it no i make it about 600 pretty good and then like the last 200 was terrible? You know, I made it, no, I made it about 300 really good, like at a respectable pace. And then I was fucking wrecked. You know, in my legs, you couldn't even stand up anymore. I hate running. I just try to avoid it as much as possible. Do your knees just kill after you run? They don't. My knees don't bug me.

Running at least. I'm fortunate in that. It's terrible for me. We had just done a workout that had like 150 deadlifts before that, though. So my hamstrings didn't work right. So I was kind of high kneeing it and not knowing what to do with this fucking ball. Yeah, where do you put it? While one of you was deadlifting, the other had to hang from the bar.

Dead hang from the pull-up bar. I would have just, if I was talking to someone else about it when I was there. That's terrible. Yeah, but you could divide it up however you wanted to. Okay. And if you dropped from the pull-up bar, you just could reset. But any reps that were going on while you're down doesn't count. But if I was doing that, I would have been like,

I'm going to do about 90% of the deadlift reps, and you do the, you know, like, I'm not going about like 90 of the deadlift reps and you do the you know like yeah i'm not gonna do much of the hanging here yeah yeah and you see with with my back i i actually i didn't i didn't feel that strong and i sure couldn't i don't even remember what we had to do before but it was all bullshit it was like 200 wall balls and then a bunch of push-ups and then and then so i'm like heaving and breathing and was worried about my back. I didn't want to just. So we probably shared the deadlift load pretty evenly.

But the problem is you do these deadlifts, then you hang from the pull-up bar. You don't ever get your breath back because when you're hanging, what you're doing is just suffocating. It's tight. So you're up there and you can't breathe because your throat's getting choked, at least when you're my're you can't breathe because your throat's getting choked at least when you're my size yeah and so it was really just 150 trying to get through 150 deadlifts while not blacking out because you can't breathe yeah it's got to be hard on the grip too after a while it's not really something i guess i even think about when you're hanging there i thought the grip was going to be

the worst thing but it was it was that it was that you couldn't breathe while you're hanging there was it the same weight the entire time for yeah it was like it was it was like 205 or something but it's a lot that's a lot to do that is a lot of that's a lot 75 of yeah i always every time i see something with that much volume like you know if i had to pick my shoes up off the floor 75 times i'd do anything pretty pissed off about it do anything that many times yeah i mean i certainly didn't get any fitter from that day, but it was, it was kind of fun.

Which was your favorite event and which is your least favorite? Um, well, my favorite was probably the front squat one. I wish I went, cause it was over quick. Yeah. I do a double.

I, when I watch, I'm like, Oh, I can do that. Yeah. No kidding. I was like,

Oh, it looks fun. Yeah. The double dynamic is, it was interesting. Cause I never trained a heavy double ever. watch, I'm like, oh, I could do that. Yeah, no kidding. The double dynamic was interesting because I never train a heavy double ever. That's kind of weird. You smash something that you kind of

you want to be up there. But if you barely get through one, you're like, it's really hard to drop down again. And that's what I did with the weight I ended up failing on. I was trying to stay upright and not hurt myself and i got down and it started moving but i knew right away that there was no way to was happening so i just dumped it yeah got out while the getting was good that was that was your favorite event that one i did like the

assault bike what did you do for the double? 3.65? 3.45 I got. Oh, 3.65 is the one that you did. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did see that. And I think I probably would have 3.65. It's a lot different in the midst of a competition.

Yeah. That's the part I think I always forget. And I always wonder with powerlifting meets. Because you just... I just assume... It makes a difference. The meet doesn't start until the bar hits the ground. Spoken like a true deadlift.

Yeah. But that's the truth, especially for some, like, top-level guys in training. It depends on what type of person they are and how they handle programming. Some people that take a lot of singles and lift really heavy uh in training when they come to a meet it's common that they might not do quite as much because you're doing nine lifts over the course of eight hours what about also the fact that they never squat bench and deadlift in the same session right exactly and that's what gets me with anytime i do and i have not like i've done many but anytime i do any sort of competitions that cumulative effect you always forget so when you see like brian shaw at the

arnold lifting a 555 pound stone that's pretty impressive on its own but he's done but look at what he did for two days before that exactly you know well even like when we do our strong like our strongman competition like at the end of of that, we complained about it for a week afterwards. And it was crazy to see how, I think everybody performed so much better the day of when we were doing everything. Then it was like a weekend where we would train maybe two or three things. Yeah.

Like we, everybody just did so much better. And I think that's another thing with competition where you're like, well, I got to do this now and I got to do the adrenaline because there's somebody watching and like it kind of matters yeah so i just you just there's a little for sure but by the last event like we did at at the massonomic strongman competition was the atlas stones and you know you could tell you know people were getting tired for the day's worth of events definitely yeah i mean i couldn't do fucking weight that i could do in practice right that's what i was worried about i'm like well i know i know i probably can't get

the last one but if i can get to the second to the last one i don't think many other people are gonna be that's exactly what happened and i couldn't even get to the third to the last one and you had done those easily without tack yeah yeah well and i'd seen yeah a lot of other people get up to the second to last one and then i think it was me and me and tanner were the only ones that got those yeah there's like three or four people that were right really flirting with it yeah but uh and then there's probably i just figured that uh that i just I just wiped all the water off the ones before. Yeah, that actually was a variable that we hadn't planned. You know, that you don't plan for. You don't live with wet stones.

Also, it didn't make it easier. When I think back about that, how fucking dangerous was that? Because we're on mats that are fucking rubber and slippery when they're wet. Oh, yeah. You slip and that thing lands on you. Break your neck, break your back. Fall with a 300-pound Atlas stone in your lap. Everything that is a little dangerous.

Right. Like in strongman stuff. It's just heavy. It's over your head. It's a cat or your body. You're carrying 500 pounds of weights that could land on someone's foot any gift. That's true. I just picture a 300-pound Atlas Stone mashing genitalia.

Oh, yeah. Which seems worse to me. Great publicity, though, for the event. I mean, who wouldn't hear about that? Guys, last year, this guy got his dick smashed by an Atlas Stone. It literally exploded. You are not going to want to miss this year. What's going to happen this year?

I heard they're lighting the stones on fire this year. Yeah, right? But, yeah, the whole training competition thing. I think it was Eric Lillibridge. He always does his, I don't know if it's just squatting or if it's everything, but he always times it. So I think he does all of his sets or all of his singles with like five minutes or something in between each each rep or each set just so it's

similar to to competition right but like when i see how how guys will do so well in a competition but then it's like well geez i mean i've seen them deadlift more than that yeah right it's because they probably didn't deadlift yeah it's it And it's also never, like, the most that they could deadlift. Right. It's the most you can do at that time, on that day. Right. That's why, like, even, like, Pete Rubish, watch him, like, deadlift in the gym. And it's, like, I think I've seen this guy hit, like, triples at the weight that he pulled in the meet.

He regularly does 50 pounds less in a meet than he does at training or training because like i've seen him i've seen him deadlift like in the 900s you know but then you think okay he's using straps okay he's using a deadlift bar which for some people it might they might be able to lift more without a deadlift bar but it obviously helps him but yeah there's just so many variables that you don't keep consistent when going from a meet to just training that deadlift bar thing that's something i talked about with tommy this week you know because we have an oaky deadlift bar and then we also have uh some texas power bars that don't have the whip and both he and i agreed that uh

you know personally at least right now we might lift better not on the deadlift bar than we do with it. I think so. Is that what they use in competition? It depends. Some meets you do use a deadlift bar. The APF meet that we've done, they use deadlift bar. USAPL or IPF

does not use a deadlift bar. They use a stiff bar. Most other federations use deadlift specific bar so is it that you can do do less because of the slack like a little bit of re is there a little bit of rebound i think some of it's just like what you're used to comfortable yeah i feel like because i'll switch like i try not to use just the deadlift but i like i'll switch off and on and i think it was two weeks ago when

i was doing like my week eight sets and it was 480 or whatever and i just remember getting it off the ground i was like oh that's easy and then it like right there it's like oh yeah that's where it feels weird and they would just like pull me forward like i felt like so many yeah i was getting to be on my toes like you almost feel like you have the slack out, and there's still a little more left. And then it whips a little bit, and you're like, whoa. Yeah, so I don't know. But on the other hand, some people I know at our gym,

they already much prefer the deadlift bar. You know, they feel like they can pull quite a bit more off of that than they can the regular bar. So that depends a little bit on your pulling style too. And how leathery your hands are. That true because the grip oh yeah that's bad but it um it depends on how much you jerk versus how steady you pull too i think it you know it makes a difference you're like a like you go in there and you're just like trying to grip and rip it i think it's really gonna throw you off yeah you have to keep really tight in the bottom and

then go up with it not just right there just try to yank it because then the the whip is just gonna get you on your toes or you're just gonna drop it right because you can't hold on to it and so you know so you're basically at the true start of the pull when it really kicks in you're a little bit higher obviously on the deadlift bar because of the because of that whip because of the bend right and i think you know if i pull off of like a two inch blocks you know if i have the weights sitting on two inch blocks so it's an elevated lift it's less range of motion i actually can't pull quite as much as if i pull all the way from the ground yeah you know so that makes it some people are just that way sticking points yeah right yeah that's why like i think even going back to the strongman thing the the car deadlift like i'm obviously not a better deadlifter than you like

you can deadlift more than i can but and there's plenty of people there that could probably deadlift more than me but it's just it's at a weird spot because what was it right below i think for me it was like right below my knees yeah so yeah if you're not if you can't start from there and i think being tall you're probably not the strongest from the floor okay yeah like you're you're you're probably not most people aren't but like your lockout's probably better than it is way extended at the bottom yeah um i don't know it didn't being tall didn't fucking help me any yeah but yeah that's a good point you you did do really well at that and then that's another factor too where it's also that was the fourth of five events too so there's like quite a bit of fatigue so maybe yeah you know if i could in practice i felt like i could have done

more than what i did in uh competition but after flipping that tire and doing a farmer's carry and uh going through the log so many times it's a little harder you know than just being in perfect like just like okay let's go yeah yeah oh god yeah I heard that we were canceling the tire for next year too is that I heard the tire just I heard it disappeared I heard the tires is gone well the tire for next year, too. Is that a truth check? I heard it disappeared. I heard the tires is gone. Well, everything's probably going to have to be a little bit bigger. Maybe we could have a tire rolling instead of a tire flipping.

We'll just get it up and you just roll it. In one of the early years of World's Strongest Man, they did a tire toss. Like a discus. I mean, it was like a car tire yeah it was like a big car tire is almost maybe a uh small truck tire or something but uh that's at the point of world's strongest man where they had a lot of contestants from different thing so a couple of the contestants were like hammer and discus throwers yeah track athletes so they have all this technique down and maybe we'll do that though or the i can't remember what year it was you told me about it and i couldn't believe like

what you were telling me the car flipping yeah yeah it was like that's the most speaking of dangerous that is the most dangerous strongman event i watched that whole thing and i couldn't believe how many people either had to quit because they got like pinned underneath the car. Well, not even that. There was things, there was events before that where it was like their name was just like crossed off because they, it was like they died. Like they got, they got, they got hurt from something. Like I think, what was it? Like something fell off of something and it landed on one of the guys.

Yeah. I think that year Yuka Ahola is the guy that won it. The guy from Finland. so yeah so it was probably in the 90s okay sometime and yeah if you go like by the final event you know they started with the typical eight or ten guys there's like three guys three or four guys that haven't been yeah crossed off due to injury like just not surviving well that car i couldn't believe like yeah you flip in that car and if it comes back you, it's a car coming back on you. Like, it's not, there's no way to change it at all.

And they flipped it sideways, right? Oh, yeah. The easy way? Yeah. But, so then, like, after the first guy got his leg caught under there and almost died, they started having spotters. They had kegs from other competition that they, so they were standing on each end of the car, like ready to place the keg every time they got halfway flipped up. But that was like,

that would be, that was such a difficult spotting responsibility that also wasn't working. So that was also just as dangerous. Yeah. I was just like, yeah, let's put three people under the car instead of just one. Yeah.

I think that's, you, you get a little bit too cute with the events, and then it gets fucking out of control. They don't do that anymore either. I did see, though, because I thought it was a badass event to do for the carry where they completely gutted out this car and put some lifting straps through the inside. In the car. Yeah, you stand in the car.

They cut the top off it looks really cool i was like oh we should definitely do this except they use a tiny car the smallest car that i could possibly imagine and it's completely stripped and it's yeah totally stripped and i'm i'm dead serious and i don't think there is a smaller car that exists no and there's this was like i don't remember who was doing it was it Puginowski? and he doesn't look small or weak and he is fucking just barely getting this thing along

a lot of the guys barely even take a couple steps there's nothing we could do we need events like that where people just can't even do them like everybody ties because nobody does it if we tried to do it that event would definitely yeah yeah i couldn't i couldn't fit i was like well how much can that really still weigh

but apparently it's a lot yeah i don't know i don't want to go through all the trouble of stripping out a car to find out that i can't lift it and neither can anyone else right so um i guess that's not going to be our new event. So we're not doing that, I guess. Probably not. That seems reasonable. Is this a good opportunity to... This is kind of a new podcast segment. We did it last week.

Brought to you by Carl's Jr. Or Hardee's, depending on where you are. Yeah, regionally speaking, it would be hardy's here anyway but i want it to be called uh what's in tanner's sack because last week i brought my sack and i last week it comes everywhere he goes yeah it was last week in my sack i had uh donnie thompson's but uh bow tie by Spud Inc. And this week. What's in your sack this week, Taylor? Well, let's find out what I've got in my sack.

I kind of want a sack. You guys are both familiar with what's in my sack here, but I just wanted to talk about it. Oh, we know. I just wanted to talk about it. We've seen the pictures. I just wanted you guys to see how it comes out. And if you'd like to see what's in Tanner's sack,

make sure you follow him on Snapchat. Actually, Ryan, what if you closed your eyes, and I just put it in your hands, and don't open your eyes? No, well, I'll just put the item in your hand. Reach into the sack, Walt Tanner. Just wait, I'll put it in. And you try and tell me if you know what it is. Okay.

For a second, I have to ruffle this bag into the microphone a little longer okay hold it hold your hands up like this way yeah what do you feel oh it's uh yeah it's the pull thing that's right like yeah yeah yep you knew. So what are these officially called? What does it say on there? Maximum Advantage Grip. Made in USA. Patent pending. So the mag.

I think this is the only thing left that's made in America. It's the last thing. That and freedom. Yeah. And Carl's Junior Burgers, of course, are a sponsor for this segment. Sponsoring what's in Tanner's sack. I actually just used that yesterday. i use those quite a bit i've never used this sean sean arsaga got those right yeah i've never used this small one um because i only ever mess around with the wider

grip for lat pull ground pull downs but um tanner you want to describe what they are to the people listening yeah and that there's many of them there Describe what was in your sack, Tanner. Tell us what was in your sack. What's it feel like? In my sack today, it's kind of like two nuts. This black thing that you just put your hands around. These are cable attachments that we use them on the pull-down machine pretty regularly. I suppose you could hook them up and do some other exercises with them.

I was doing some rows. Yeah. You could do seated rows. Me and Corey were doing them. Put the slide all the way down and then just stand up and do kind of like something similar to a barbell row. Yeah, yeah. But that with a neutral grip. Yep.

So what these do, I don't know technically how they describe what it is that these do you almost have to use it to understand i would say it puts your grip into a natural grip i would say that's that's and i i think the one that i had used is the is the wider one for doing like pull downs and i find with that that i i always have trouble actually engaging my lats yeah i'm kind of i'm kind of a shoulder and upper back guy and i'll pull with my pecs and i'll and i'll curve my elbows in and and i'll almost still pull with like my shoulder and um there's no fucking way you can lift that way with the mag grip like you grab it and you pull in it you i feel like you're just on this track where you're

pulling like right into your lats. And I never get that to that point where I'm weak and falling apart or anything. Everything stays tight. When you can't go any longer, it's because your back muscles won't let you go any longer. It's because the muscles you're supposed to be using are beat. Yeah. When you use a normal, you know, say a straight bar attachment and you grip it like you would. I feel like once you get.

You can't make a fist. No, you don't make a fist. And I feel like when you make, when you get tired on a regular one, your wrists start to bend backwards. And then it really, you feel a lot like in your biceps or other parts of your body that you're not. Yeah. I feel like it's because I feel like, I mean, if you flex your bicep, try to flex your bicep without making a fist. It's kind of hard. Yeah. It's at least less effective, that's for sure.

Right, so I feel like, yeah, just how this is set up, you cannot close your fist all the way. So it does force you to use muscles besides muscles in your arms. There is a ton of these. Yeah, we have three widths of them. And ours are all neutral grip but they also they sell them they sell a pronate and a supinated yeah and we don't have either of those we have all three of ours are all uh neutral grip but we have the medium the wide and the small right yep those are i think

the wide only comes in uh it looks like it doesn't it what we have yeah that would be do it this way yeah neutral grip but they're really before you use them you you think is that is just a gimmick or that's like what is even really the point of that i already have a pull down attachment and then when you do use it it's like i guess it makes that yeah it does it does feel different you know and for the wide grip which is i can only speak on because that's the one i use but i mean it's 75 dollars is like probably worth it to have at least the pull downs that i do become feeling effective and i don't fucking hate them which means i'll do them yeah 75 is probably the most expensive pull downdown attachment that you can buy, but it's probably also the best one, I would say, too.

What's the least you're going to spend on one? $25? Yeah, probably. I would say they're definitely worth it. We've had them now for a few weeks. I'd say a month, maybe. A few weeks to a month. Everyone that has used them is kind of like,

oh, I kind of like that. I don't think I've used a regular just round bar. Yeah, I won't anymore. Until someone tells me I'm fucking doing something wrong. Yeah, this just feels better. It just feels more natural. It would be hard for someone to convince me not to use this just based off the way it feels in my back. Yeah, it feels effective, at least. So how do you... Do you give a rating, or do they just kind of, like...

Do the audience just kind of base this product off of how we talked about it? Oh, I guess we could do, like, a rating system. I don't know if it's a star system. Two sacks way up. Yeah. A sack system. Oh, yeah. I give it two sacks up.

Two sacks out of ten. Yeah, yeah. I would do the same. Yeah, that's good. Why are give it two sacks. Two sacks out of ten. I would do the same. Yeah, that's good. Why are there two separate sacks? I don't know. One sack away. I dig it.

Like I said, I've never enjoyed doing lat pulldowns. It seems like it's just not my jam. And, yeah, they really make it something that seems to work for me. So what's the website they have? It's maxagrip.com. It's the mag, Maximum Advantage Grip. Do they make anything else, or is it just these? I don't think so.

I think that's just it. It's not a real elaborate website or anything either. No. They have the products. Oh, they have reviews. Maybe ours will be on there one day. Ooh, where's the reviews? That's at the top oh

boy another thing i want to start doing a rugby player likes it okay high performance coach australian rules football big john mccarthy never heard of her he's a ufc ref oh he's he's he's actually probably kind of a badass perfect for for MMA fitness. Eric the Trainer. Oh, that guy looks pretty legit. Do you know who that guy is? That's Lars from Heavyweight. Oh, it does kind of look like him. Like a guy that's supposed to be big.

The main monster. Kelly Parks, Wyoming State Bodybuilding Champion. Great Western Plains Heavyweight winner. Rocky Mountain Heavyweight. Is that a man or is that a woman? Kelly Parks. That could be. I don't know.

I'm going to go dude. Okay. Wyoming bodybuilder. Statistically speaking, it's most likely. Yeah. We got physical therapy. Way too long. Way too long, Patrick.

A doctor. Dr. McDougie. There's a doctor. mcdougie oh mcdougal yeah oh that's it i thought it was an l dr mcdougie mcdougal is still pretty funny teach me how to mcdougie yeah uh arthritis uh apparently everybody loves this everybody loves it at least these seven eight people who you don't know like it and us three people who you don't know like it so that's 11 people you don't know that's 11 sacks so 11 sacks up way up yeah hey what about uh before we before we call it a day we've got um i'm assuming this is the week that uh tomm Tommy's Deadlift article is going to be out.

Is that correct? That should be out and live for you to view right now. Tommy, the DeFay with the most hair. At least on his head. On his head, yeah. I have a pretty hairy back, so. Is that the title you take for sure? Yeah.

Yeah. That's unfortunate. Depends. See, it still depends on what you're into. We talked about it. Some people like stuff like that. So that's going to be on the website. Yep.

I taught him everything he knows about Deadlift. That's actually the whole. That's all of it, right? It's an interview with me it's uh it's basically i think over about a six month period or so how he got his uh one rep max deadlift to increase uh about 50 pounds or so and it's actually i think it actually was a tighter timeline than that yeah but we're just being a little more reasonable with since he's writing it six months after yeah and it's actually gone up even more than this since then.

Well, speaking of that, this last week, if he was here, we'd probably talk about it, but he set PRs in all three of his lifts this week. Yeah, I was there for the bench. Yeah, Benchy benched 335, which is most before that was maybe 325 or 320. Yeah, maybe it was 325. So he got about 10 or 15 pounds on that. And his deadlift sets, he did 475 for sets of five, which the most he had done before that is 455.

And then squats, he did 420 for his sets of three. Yep, five by three. Yeah, so basically all of his stuff is way up. Which is pretty, and it's pretty big jumps and all. Yeah, yeah. So is this just like a steroid article? I guess we'll find out if you ever read it. Brian's been setting quite a few PRs,

and then Nick in the gym set like a 35-pound squat PR. Thick Nick. Thick Nick set like a 35-squat PR. Thick Nick. Thick Nick set like a 35-squat PR. So, yeah, I'm saying steroids. I would guess. Yeah, like I don't know what the hell else you guys could be doing. No. No.

But, yeah, so he kind of covers a handful of things. Do you want to go over a couple of things, or are we just going to defer everybody to the website? Well, I would say check out the website there sure because we got pictures videos and i would say it's actually could be a helpful if you are someone out there that wants your deadlift to be better than it is right now it's actually probably a pretty helpful article yeah that i there's a couple uh there's no quick fix one trick thing but there's a few if there was we'd get more clicks yeah yeah that's for sure

but there are that should be the title my one easy way to increase his deadlift 50 pounds in four months but there is a couple actually good uh tips that he used that you know anecdotally really worked well for him so things that probably aren't best to be um delivered via an audio only podcast let's just talk about it and then nobody will read it. Well, no. I'd like to read you guys this article verbatim. Audio book. But no, so go to massonomics.com.

It's going to be under the Articles and Videos tab, and that should be in the top couple there. Check it out. That'll also be on our Facebook page as well. Yeah, like us on Facebook. Are you not liking us on Facebook? Any of you? If you haven't liked us on Facebook, it means that you don't like us on Facebook.

Didn't you just like us on Facebook? It was like within the year. I think it was in 2016 I liked the page. You said something to me like, saw that you liked the page yesterday. I was like, yeah, I don't know. I just thought i did because obviously i follow it or i'm friends with the page i just like i'll like it and then it's like kind of late to the party i guess but whatever so well anything else we got to get out today guys

i don't know this is usually where i say no. This is where Tanner's got seven or eight things after he lets me start the wrap-up. No, because I'm thinking hard if there is something. And right now I can honestly say there's nothing in my mind. I think the key going forward is going to be to think hard before I ask the question. Because when I ask the question, you start thinking hard and it's a pause, which means, and let's shut her down. So anything else happened this week that we got to cover while I was gone? We had a pretty good turnout on Saturday at the gym.

It was quite the little party. That was a really weird thing. It was like seven. There was nine people there. Usually on Saturday you might find one randomly when you go and there's one or two other people around. Yeah, because I text you because Kevin wanted to go. I'm like, oh, I'll go.

Was everybody's schedules during the week all fucked up? No, I think it's a winter thing. It's a snowy winter. Like, oh, I'll go to the gym now on Saturday. Yeah, I got there. I'm like, I don't even know what I'm going to do. And then Larry was deadlifting. Thank God there's always curls.

Right? That's what you do when you don't know'm going to do. And then Larry was deadlifting. Thank God there's always curls. Right? That's what you do when you don't know what else to do. I did pause deadlifts, like right at the knee. I was like, I'll do these. I only went up to 315, did a couple sets of that. I was like, I don't think I'm going to get sore from this, but it's something to do.

Yeah, just random stuff. Yeah, anything I do on the weekends, I'll like a bunch of conditioning or something on a saturday if i'm doing anything outside of my just going in to have a gym day it is all just a pump sesh right make sure it's a sleeveless shirt day no shirt day every day is no shirt day yeah so that'll do it for us today, you guys. Unless Tanner wants to cut me off midway through here with something else here. I almost feel like I'm letting myself down that I don't have something to interrupt it with. Do you have another sack we could maybe look at? No, I just brought my one sack.

But, yeah, I'm going to try to – I might have already ran out of things on week two of the sack thing. This weekly feature that we've been doing is... But I'm going to try and continue that. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, I like it. Close your eyes and reach into my SAC. Tell me what you feel. Yeah, it's a fun game.

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Did you watch it with Larry? That does not matter. Those movies do not hold up. That does not matter. Okay, let's talk about it. Those movies do not hold up. Yes, they do. I'm putting my foot down. Three times. Damn it.

The Will Ferrell character. Yeah. He's like trying to ask him. I can't stand to be asked a question three times. Oh, by the way, before we do wrap up, did you guys, did you see the party, the rest of the party episodes? I haven't watched part two. I watched part one. I watched part one, which I thought was pretty, wasn't too bad.

And I watched part two today, which gets a little bit hairier than part one. Is it when like we're all talking and then we start talking about weird like high school stuff? It might be a little hard to follow. Yeah. So stupid. That's good. That's good. So you can go back and check out the PartyCast episodes.

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That's Tyler E-F-F-I-N Stone. Oh, great job on the spelling. I'll try to. What I don't want to do is be like, oh, he said Tyler F. N. Stone, so they're like Tyler F-U-C-K. Oh, right. You know, so. Right.

Ryan, how can they get a hold of you? You can find me on instagram find ryan underscore d f-o-y-i-n-r-y-a-n underscore d emphasis on the d the d and tanner oh the massonomics instagram page at massonomics m-a-s-s-e-n-o-m-I-C-S. Masonomics. Anywhere else? Root of origin. English. Can you use that in a sentence, please? I love Masonomics so much that I buy a lot of shirts and hats from their website.

And certainly rated them on iTunes. Yeah. Anywhere else that they can find you, Tanner? The Yellow Pages. The Yellow Pages. Yeah. My landline. You can call me on my landline phone we i do have a landline phone in my house but it's not hooked up to anything it's

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