Massenomics Podcast - Ep.40: New Year, New Soap
Episode Date: January 9, 2017Professor Schanz joins us in The Massenomics Studio and we talk New Year's Resolutions, personal hygiene, and we find out what's in Tanner's Sack this week.. Watch this episode in full color vi...deo... Or check out the super-high quality audio version below.. Make sure you LIKE the Massenomics Facebook page... If you don't already have a closet full of Massenomics gear, go to the MASSENOMICS STORE and load up on swag... Also, please CLICK THIS LINK TO GIVE US A 5 STAR RATING ON ITUNES... Click this text to follow Massenomics on Instagram... Vote Massenomics for President in 2016... Have your barber shave our logo into the side of your head.. Maybe get a Massenomics tattoo while you're at it. Or you could sign up for our email newsletter at the bottom of this page. Stay Strong, M
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Video.
Good. All right. Thanks, Mr. Director.
All right, guys.
We're back for the first time in a very long time back in the Massanomics studio
here both in audio and video.
Howdy.
Hi.
And, yeah, so we got a whole pile of people.
We're just going to, I'll just pass it around here.
I'm Tyler, next to me.
Tommy.
Professor Shantz here back, I think, for my third only podcast ever.
And I am his brother-in-law, and I'm here for my first podcast ever.
Brian.
Tanner. And I'm here back for my 39th podcast ever.
Something like that. Several. So basically for the last three weeks you've been hearing the
podcast episodes from the whirlwind trip to California and now we finally got everything
back set up in the old ye old
massonomics dungeon um i'm not sure i remember how to even do this tyler i don't know i'm like
kind of nervous right now like what's gonna happen what do we do
where do my hands go yeah i remember to wear clothes that was a win
but uh yeah so I don't know.
Tanner sounded like he came really prepared with a bunch of stuff.
I got a lot of good stuff.
I have something, too, Tanner.
All right, so warning out there, if you're listening, you know,
keep listening.
This is going to be a good one.
We have at least four talking points.
Don't change to serial now.
Keep listening.
Wait, I got to ask,
is this the most people you've had for a podcast before with Fine?
No, we've had like 36 in one night before.
Oh, that's true.
I'd say, but no, this is probably the most we ever had.
No.
Yeah, it is.
Even Jonah.
No, Jonah's episode was six. You were there.
We had six.
Yeah.
It really pushes the boundaries of what we can do.
That's what we do, though.
We push the boundaries of what we can do. The technological boundaries we do, though. We push the boundaries of what we can do.
Because I run out of headphones
is the main issue.
I don't know if you could podcast
with earbuds.
It wouldn't look as cool. It's a really
discreet option. It would actually probably look a lot
less silly, I think.
But it wouldn't have the podcast look at all.
Even one of those headsets that
the boy bands would wear back in the day
that kind of comes around the front.
Why don't people use those?
Here's the deal, actually.
So the barbell shrug setup, they've got the headsets.
They look kind of like yours, but they have a mic that comes around.
Like an NFL coach?
Yeah, kind of.
It looks like that.
I would like to have that because, at least for the sake of video,
there's not all this stuff blocking our beautiful faces. um they're really really really silly expensive so i started looking around though and
you can get one where it is it's it's it's a headset and it's just this cute little it's
almost like a telemarketers freak you know and it's really discreet but i suppose it's if you
were like an r&b singer yeah it would be your your go-to mic set. But it's also way more than what we're going to spend.
Is it because it's endorsed by Neil, so you've got to pay?
Yes, yes, I think so.
It's Pitbull's brand.
I've got something to kick us off a little bit.
This thing is in my sack, but this is not officially what's in Tanner's sack.
You just have some things in your sack? Yeah, there's multiple things in my sack, but this is not officially what's in Tanner's sack. You just have some things in your sack?
Yeah, there's multiple things in my sack today.
Definitely check out the video version for Tanner's sack.
But this is not
what's in Tanner's sack. I also like how you
tied your bag up before you started.
You didn't tie it as you brought it in, you just tied it up
as we got here. Would you say this is like
a teaser to what will be coming later?
Yeah, it's completely unrelated, but yeah, is like a teaser to what will be coming later? Yeah. It's completely unrelated
but yeah, it's a teaser to what's coming
later. I don't know if you can see
this on camera but
Masonomics received a
Christmas card. I don't know if I told
any of you guys about that or not.
I think Mary may have sent me.
I think I might have seen a snap too.
It actually says
to Tyler Stone and the Masonomics crew.
And then it's addressed to my house.
See, the studio address is my house.
But I thought you guys lived together part of the time, though, don't you?
Well, that was actually part of why Tanner's wife messaged me.
Because she didn't know if she missed the heads up that I was moving in.
And it's a postcard
from Steve Wilk,
who's a pretty loyal
Masonomics fan.
From the great state of Pennsylvania.
He said to the Masonomics crew...
You gotta read what's on the front first.
Yeah, that's actually a good part.
Feliz Navidad, bichachos.
Could you translate that for me?
I don't know any of that.
Feliz Navidad, bitches.
Okay, okay.
Happy holidays to you all.
Keep the podcast rolling and may there be
many more. Stay warm up there,
Steve. And P.S.
You guys have the best podcast
I've ever heard and anyone
that doesn't listen to this should be listening to it now.
And I'll pass that around for you all to see it.
That's pretty amazing.
That last part may or may not have been fictional.
I don't know what gave it away.
That's awesome.
So that was pretty cool.
Steve has been a pretty... He's been been a uh pretty uh he's been very loyal
yeah he's been a loyal listener yep is this the original piece of fan mail the first one
yeah yeah should we frame that we probably can't frame all the other stuff that's been
sliding into our dms but but yeah that's probably the most family-friendly one we've got.
Yeah.
All right, what else do we got, Tanner?
Tommy, you guys are the only ones that prepared for this.
You know, I had this kind of interesting, it was last Friday, you know, right before
Christmas, and like anybody else, I want to make my way to the gym.
And I typically work until 5, but being that it's before Christmas, everyone's bailing out of work early.
So being the great employee I am, I stuck around until 4.30, which was much later than most.
And all excited to get to the gym early.
So I get home, you know, like 4.45-ish, and it's like, I'm going to get an awesome jump start on this.
I'm going to be out because I had some stuff to do that night, like a little get-together, a little boozing with the friends.
And about to leave, and then my girlfriend called, and she said we have to pick up the
house before people come over. So fair enough, we had actually opened presents the night
before, so it was a total mess from that. So about a half hour cleaning up presents,
you know, a little delay, no big deal. I'm finally out the door to go to the gym. It's
about 5.30, which is getting close to my regular time anyways. So I'm heading down the road, all excited. And I see a car coming
towards me and I see another car crossing the road. And I'm just thinking, they're timing that
up really close. And then the pickup driver totally T-bones the car. I'm like, ah, really?
So I pull up and the car's facing the other direction and I rolled down my window.
I'm like, you guys okay? They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. But can you stick around to be a
witness? I'm like, sure. So then I sit and wait for the cops to come and the cop has to interview
one person, then the other person and tell me that my time will come. And so I wait a little longer.
Finally, he interviews me, you know, ask the the important questions like am I on probation or do I have any warrants on my arrest which luckily I didn't um so then finally that goes
down and I'm about to head on my way and because we live in Aberdeen there's a train
and at that point I couldn't wait any longer so I had to drive all the way around to the bridge
which of course means the train is gone by that time and so
uh my quick night to the gym only took me two hours to get there by the time it was all said down which was really a really awesome way to start the night so if you would have just left
your job early like you should have yeah none of this would have been your problem moral of the
story just don't be loyal to any place you work and if you witness a car accident just just drive
away just drive away keep your eyes closed maybe they shouldn't have got hit witness a car accident, just drive away. Who cares? Just drive away. Keep your eyes closed.
Maybe they shouldn't have got hit by a car.
Don't hold on.
Did it negatively affect your lift in any way?
That's probably the most important thing.
You know, mentally, I was kind of getting really frustrated because it had taken so long at that point.
But in the end, it ended up being an okay night.
No real loss, though.
Trials and tribulations, you know.
It ain't easy. It ain't easy it ain't easy yeah well guys tanner what else you got in your locker that's all i want to talk about yeah that was it
it was just kind of the postcard i expected that to take more than two minutes.
Yeah, I had another thing.
This podcast will come out slightly after New Year's Eve,
but it's still pretty relevant at this point in time.
It should be about a week post-New Year's Eve.
I just kind of was curious what everyone that lifts pretty seriously, and I know everyone sitting around this table, uh, are generally pretty motivated individuals.
So I wondered how,
uh,
and handsome and handsome as handsome as shit.
But,
uh,
I just wondered what everyone's view on new year's resolutions is generally
like what you think of them.
If you,
if you utilize those to motivate your life,
I've always just wondered why someone needs someone like a new year for them to actually
get motivated about something.
I would say if you're motivated and wanted to get something done, you wouldn't wait for
the fact that there needs to be a new year for that to happen.
You would just, you know, Monday's as good as any day to start.
Why does it need to be 2017?
You know, that's kind of my thoughts on it.
I kind of my thoughts on it i i kind of agree i think uh i mean
sometimes just a hard fast deadline is good for you anyways you know like all right well
fucking first of the year 2017 is going to be my fucking year it's going to happen
i i guess that works i haven't had to deal with much of the crazy you guys probably had more in
you know at the other gym and i don't know where you know where what you deal with with all the crazy new year's resolutioners piling into the place but um
what what type of fall off do you normally see is it it's a madhouse for how many weeks i would say
about a month about usually i was gonna say i remember about three weeks it felt like right
in there brian you managed the gym so you would know as well as any. Yeah, it's, you know, you maybe get a, shoot,
sometimes you only get a couple weeks out of some of the guys,
but they'll tend to, you know, three, four weeks,
but by end of February, it's the same old guys that were there.
Yeah, the last five years.
Although they do, you know, we had a year of membership,
so they do like to pop in about, you know, late April,
right before it gets warm because you get that little,
I'm going to go shirtless this year, know that that works though right like if you just work out for a like a week or so you get a quit a bit out of that you
know results wise i i recommend it for most people you don't want to do it like too long
i mean yeah i would say that it's probably i't say, I wouldn't think it's a bad thing,
but kind of like Austin said, like, well, fucking maybe tomorrow would be a better day
than waiting for the first.
Definitely, if it's September and you're trying to like, you know, do some fitness things
or trying to fucking, you know, change whatever direction you're on, maybe don't wait until
January.
You know what I mean?
Like, if you had this inclination in Septemberember maybe october would be a good place to start see and i think that's the problem people
have is they they don't have that thought in september they have it you know everyone's trying
to reflect around the new years and then the holiday comes around and everybody eats too much
and drinks and you know but a lot of it's just that I think there's this self-reflection that happens during the holidays.
And you just start thinking, ah, what am I doing with my life?
I've got to start taking care of myself.
And unfortunately, they fall off because that doesn't get you anywhere motivation-wise.
It's just feeling guilty and you just kind of fizzle out.
That's one of the things I heard.
I don't know if you guys ever listened to the Jocko podcast. Have you ever heard of fizzle out that's one of the things i heard it was the i don't know if
you guys ever listened to jaco podcast have you ever heard that highly recommend it dude's a like
for real badass but one of the second best podcast out there i would say for sure it's definitely not
the strongest podcast because that title's taken a distant distant second distant second but uh
but it's uh it's really one of the things he always talks about is that, you know,
motivation and inspiration and all that crap only gets you so far.
And at some point you have to learn discipline.
And if you're not going to actually have the discipline to get yourself there
four, five, six days a week, forever, then you're just, it's never going to get you.
You can be motivated for a month,
you can be inspired to get out of the bed, out of bed early one day, but it's just not going to
hang over the long term. The other thing I had noticed, and I kind of stuck with this before too,
was people will set these goals, like I want to lose 20 pounds, or I want to lose 30 pounds,
or I want to be able to bench, I don't know how much Tommy
bench, a thousand pounds like Tommy DeFay. I, but, uh, um, one of the things that what causes most
people to fall off of that is that they're setting this, this high target that doesn't actually
consist of any of the work involved in getting into that target. So if you're going to set some
sort of a target to, you know, if you want to lose 25 pounds, spell out the actual work that's involved in losing 25 pounds. So it's like,
I need to make it to the gym three to four days a week. I need to eat good 80% of my meals. So
five days a week, for sure. I got to be on point nutritionally. So start with that and start
checking those off. And the weight and the pounds are going to turn into whatever they turn into but you can't control the pounds you can
sure as shit control what you do right it's like you need all those small goals and when you get
set all those small goals that ultimate reach to your big goal definitely one thing i do like doing
more with the end of the year um partying it's like raging every weekend is a party
am i in heaven though i do like it as more of kind of a time of reflection you know where you
can go back and see like evaluate your year like what did i do this year what didn't i do what
could i have done better what went better than i thought and i think that is kind of a nice time to
kind of do a summary and look back and evaluate what went well what could have went better than I thought. And I think that is kind of a nice time to kind of do a summary and look back and evaluate what went well,
what could have went better, and all that stuff.
What worked for you, what didn't work for you,
where you dropped the ball, you know.
Why your wife still hates you.
You know, all those things.
Why I can't get along with my family.
I really agree with what Austin said,
as sums up my opinion almost exactly that it's just my mentality personally.
If I'm thinking about doing it on December 29th, if the idea pops into my head and I know that I'm going to get serious about it, I'm not going to wait two days even.
I'm like, if I'm not going to be motivated enough internally to start it today. Like, I just don't believe in
using a date. I just don't think that's ever going to be a lasting form of motivation to drive
somebody. And that's kind of what you said. And I agree with that. And then also, if you're listening
to this, just within a couple of days, we had the article come out that you wrote that's,
it's just what you do. And that's all a little bit related to that too and you could talk about the article better but I really like that article
also because that is fits in with my mentality perfectly too as to why I'm not that big on like
a new year's resolution because I think it should just be you know it just has to be what you do
yeah yeah I mean the then the two key things to
take away from that article are two words I use are consistency and duration. Like you have to
be consistent and it has to be of a long enough duration. And that's, you know, really what
matters in the grand scheme of things is being able to motivate yourself for, you know, a long
time. Like Brian and I were just having a conversation earlier today and people
asking like well what did you do to get to where you're at you know for your you know the goals
you have reached and the you know the progress that you've made so far and Brian and I were like
well we've just been at it for like 10 years like you just got to put in your dues like
you know it just it takes time it takes you know, that duration and that consistency,
like I said. The sad thing is nobody wants to hear that. So you say that and you get the glazed
over look from the, you know, that's a terrible response to hear. I got to work hard for like a
long time often. You sure they just don't sell it at GNC. I mean, but I mean, and that's, but that's where the thing comes in. It's like,
it is a long time. And so you've got to start making these small lifestyle changes. Now,
there's always little things that you can control little, just little things you can add, you know,
two, three times a week, like you said, that they get you down that road. And then all of a sudden,
you're two years down the road, and you're five years down the road. And then all of a sudden you're two years down the road and you're five years down the road and you may not be perfect, but you're going to be a heck of a lot better off
than where you are right now. As long as you just get started. And you know, I, like I said,
the motivation's there, the guilt is there. They want to start new year's gives them a hard date,
but it, it also sets them all up to failure because that's what you hear. Oh, what's the
goal? 30 pounds this year.
What's the goal?
This, that.
And it just, it's all conspiring against them.
Yeah, I just start new things every year just because I hate myself.
So, well, let's try to think of when this is going to come out.
This will be just short of the new, or just after the new year.
I did get a pretty sweet Christmas present this year.
I got myself a big old prowler sled.
I thought for sure it would be something related to the bathroom.
No, no.
The bidets are still there.
So I got this, I don't know, it's the heaviest fucking prowler i've seen
what's the one we have down at the gym tanner maybe i don't know what it weighs but it's not
this much yeah this thing's like this thing's like 100 115 pounds unloaded and it's fucking just
just stout and after uh after having julian on the podcast i decided that i'm definitely probably
gonna end up throwing up all over this sled once the weather gets nice.
I don't care what he says.
I'm not doing that shit in the winter.
Yeah, if you're listening to this and you haven't listened to the Julian podcast, you should go back and check that out.
You definitely should go back.
Finish this one out because I'm sure this one's a real home run.
It only gets better for me.
Definitely check out Julian's episode.
It'll be the one right before this it's uh julian's the shit he definitely makes a guy want to like definitely get after it but
no the the sled something he he uses a lot just to teach kind of intensity and pain tolerance and
that type of stuff and uh and that's the thing that i usually suck at the most so i'm definitely
that's gonna be a thing i'm going to suffer on a lot.
And my wife bought it for me too.
So I know she's going to be laughing.
That's a pretty sweet.
I mean, did she do that without you hinting or telling her that?
I pretty much, well, I mean, I'm not hinting that I want it for Christmas,
but if I see something and I want it, I pretty much bitch about it until I get it.
Until she allows me to buy it so
um this time she just bought it so she didn't give me permission to buy this one she just bought this
one so um yeah it's it's pretty sweet but what other like did you guys get any other lifting or
fitness gifts usually like if you're a guy that lifts, that becomes what is an easy gift to get you.
You know what I mean?
For mostly any guy, I think you get categorized into a couple things.
Like, if you lift, everyone knows you get lifting things.
Lifting or hunting or golfing.
It's, like, the easy one to go to.
And it's always appreciated.
No, I would much rather have lifting or fitness
stuff than than most other things for sure that and booze i got i was about 50 50
they know where my priorities are build you up and tear you down that's right that's right
but uh do you guys get anything cool this year i had not directly fitness related but i had
made some mentions of wanting a standing desk and I was pleasantly surprised with the standing desk.
And, you know, we talk about long hours of working on massonomics things.
And after being in an office all day sitting, it's really hard to be motivated to go home and sit down for three more hours or two more, whatever it is, hour, two hours just to work on anything.
So after I mean, I've only had to got to use it a few times since it is relatively new, but
I have been like, really, it like makes you, it makes it much easier to get into work. Whereas
before it's like, all right, here we go. And you kind of get, it's like, you just go in and you
can kind of like shift your weight. You can move around. It just, you feel like your mind feels
more nimble. It might sound dumb, but like that really is kind you just you feel like your mind feels more nimble i
might sound dumb but like that really is kind of how you feel so i have uh i've really enjoyed it
so far do you think you would ever you'll ever switch back or would you do you think it'd be a
standing mask man the nice thing about this one is it has buttons so you can push it and it lowers
for you right to this height so it's like you know like yesterday for example i was using it
and after about two hours i was very tired of standing and it was getting close to 10 o'clock
and so i put it down for like the last 20 minutes i sat and i was like you know this is this is
really nice do you think are you gonna buy a treadmill to put in front of that at some point
get a little extra cardio i just know i would start sweating so bad with that that amount of
walking going on and that's that wouldn't work for me.
So I can sit that one out.
Do you think you would ever transition to that at work?
You know, I would love to.
Except you'd get made fun of by everyone at your work for a while.
No, I think it would be more like having to deal with questions nonstop for like a week.
Yeah.
But then –
I would say that would be nice.
It would just be things like, standing.
Yep, yep.
People would just walk by and nod.
Standing?
Yeah.
It's the same thing.
Like, I've never put my hair up at work just because, like, it's wet in the morning and
I have a thing where I don't put my hair up when it's wet.
I want it to dry off.
And I just know that the day I put my hair up, it's going to be so many people.
Oh, hair's up.
Haircut, huh?
Like, things like that are, got your ears lowered.
Nope.
Got them all cut.
My daughter's got hair like that.
It'd be things like that nonstop, and I just don't want to have that conversation.
So that one hasn't happened yet either.
But at work, I would love to make it happen at the standing desk.
But with our desk setups, it's kind of like a weird cubicle pod type thing,
and they're not really – I don't know.
I think it would be a really big act to try and get it cleared to remove that.
So I don't know, maybe someday.
We've got them at my work, and so there's days I can stand all day.
And it's – everybody in my area's got them
but you know only about two of us ever are standing up and that's what happens everybody
walks up boy you're still standing a lot you stand all day pretty pretty much so you like
you're a fan then too love it yeah love it it's they're expensive i mean but it was it was a
really nice deal and and just to have
that choice and you know it's yours adjusts up and down and also yep just a lever you push it and
goes where you want it to go real easy but just to have that ability like i hurt my back about
a month ago kind of tweaked it and just the ability to be able to stand all day and not have
to sit on that sciatic nerve was great.
And that's what I've been noticing.
I feel like I've been getting just tighter in my hips lately.
It feels like out of nowhere, but at the same time,
you think it's like just being bolted to a seat all day.
Why wouldn't your hips be tight?
You're not moving.
You're not getting any type of mobility or anything in there.
So, yeah, it makes total sense i've
battled with that hypno yeah it's for a long time and i've thought about standing desk at work and
i think i will eventually have to try that i just feel like it would have to help when you sit there
for a long period of time you can just feel it in your hips even it's like people complain about
going on an eight hour car ride but you're expected to basically sit in the seat for eight hours a day and it's just it doesn't make sense yeah if you rode in a car for for
eight hours every day people be like oh that's terrible it's like oh like you go on a road trip
someone's like how long was it anytime you say anything over ford like oh that sounds terrible
it's like well i do that every day at work no one's complaining about that
i guess on that note i'm in the middle of of a little bit of an experiment at home as well.
I thought you lost a bet.
No, I did not.
And the problem was this was actually my idea to go ahead and do this.
My wife was like, we're not fucking doing that.
And I was like, well.
So anyway, I find myself all the time sitting on my floor in my family room
because basically I have a really nice, really comfortable recliner
that I spend a lot of money on, and it's very cozy.
But if I come home at the end of the day and I sit in it,
it just, like, you know, sucks you in.
I always feel like I'm kind of in this slouched position.
You turn to mush.
Yeah, you just,. You turn to mush. Even when I'm laid back. Yeah, I just like turn to shit.
So I got the bright idea to, after seeing that that's a thing that people do,
to just remove the chairs and sofas from my living room and just sit on the floor.
That on its own is not that bad because for the last couple months,
most of the time I'll sit on the floor anyways.
But there's just all this furniture in the way, so it limits my space.
So when you sit on the floor, are we Indian-style, cross-legged?
Sometimes.
A lot of the times it's just laying down.
Okay.
Or I'll lay.
But because you're on the floor, you're inherently more active.
Is it possible to sit up just sitting there?
I can't wrap my head around this. that's the thing that i'm learning that
that i'm i'm not capable of right now like i'm never taking up without sitting back again and
you're gonna take your word for it i still don't see how this works out here's the part that's
even worse though like that was what all it was gonna be it was just gonna be the family room
which we spend most of your time so we watch tv you know um but then i was like well you know i got a low like coffee table and we can do that with
the dining room too and that was the worst fucking idea i'm only three days in or whatever and eating
is the fucking worst yeah i thought you'd be like because well no you can you can sit you should be
able to i think sit sit down and sit upright like a human you know what i mean and you should be able to
eat food that's at belly button height you know normal but i fucking can't and i fucking hate it
the dining room thing is the worst i don't think normal humans are six eight that's that's the
that's the other thing about this that makes it worse i think that portion of it's definitely
worse because i'm a giant person but it's also the reason why i think my like couches aren't that appealing to me either
because i can never nap in them because i can't stretch out but you need to perfect the third
world squat have you ever heard of that i'm getting there i'm getting there i'm getting
pretty good at it uh do you find yourself leaning on your kickstands a lot yes i also but the the thing i do find that is probably
beneficial is kickstands the old kickstand that uh in basic training you're not allowed
you have to there's a lot of times you have to sit like what you're talking like indian
style or what whatever and uh i remember being yelled at a lot of times like get off your kick
stands kawasaki but i i find myself in the in the living room a lot though now which is probably a
good thing where i'll sit there and just kind of like lean against your range of motion you know
i'll like or i'll just hop up on my knees and like stretch my hips out a little bit and i think
if nothing else if a guy
doesn't if a guy has furniture in your living room which most people are gonna do if a guy
maybe maybe just like you can afford these luxuries maybe just do that for 15 to 20 minutes
a day you know on your own you'll probably be better off but anyway i'm sticking this through because it was my idea good or bad and i'm doing it for 30 days and uh but there's no fucking way like i still i i firmly
believe that i may leave the family room as it is um because i normally am on the floor there i have
i have furniture in my house okay like i'm not a homeless person there's furniture all over the place they're just
not in that room right now but uh there's absolutely no way that i could eat like that
come down in the morning you know you're tired you get yourself something to drink make a nice
fucking omelet um you get ready to eat a nice big hearty breakfast then you got to go sit on a
fucking pillow and lean over a coffee table sucks there's i just that's not
sustainable for me at all but but yeah so that's what's going on in the stone household um we're
eating like homeless people did either of you guys get anything fitness related i mean uh new pair
of zuba pants no no no shake weight i uh I mostly got tools because I recently purchased a house or a duplex.
Doing man stuff?
Yeah, just doing man things.
So, you know, I'm building up my forearms with the tools.
That's my fitness.
Wrenching.
Yep, turning wrenches.
So no swimming pool anymore?
No swimming pool.
Fuck.
Is there a public pool nearby that we can drink at?
When we go visit?
I don't think so, honestly.
We're shit out of luck there.
We're never going to go see Austin again.
I got my wife a Concept 2 rower.
I saw that.
I saw that.
She was after a rower, and I also didn't.
You weren't too opposed. You weren't too opposed.
You weren't against it.
It was kind of a win-win situation.
One of those self-serving gifts.
But it really was a good one because she really wanted it
and had brought it up a few times.
And you will use it as much or more than she will.
That's great.
I feel like that's probably the same thing my wife did with that sled.
She will definitely probably use it.
Those really are the best gifts, though.
Like, I mean.
Yeah.
So has she used it yet?
Yeah.
Had she used them before?
I know you had used mine and a couple others.
When she used to go to a different gym, she really liked rowing.
So that was.
And I'm not sure if it was a concept you know this is
a model d rower which seems to be the gold standard yeah kind of the gold standard it's they've become
which also if you want to buy a used one good luck that just doesn't exist because every crossfit gym
in the country will buy them you know has them still think with how how crossfit has rowers that
they would just be like burning through rowers.
I don't know.
I think the actual rowers, I don't think they break that often.
I don't think they cause too much trouble.
It still seems like it's one of those things where it's like, well, we haven't bought new equipment for a year or two.
Let's upgrade our rowers because they get so much use.
But usually they're so expensive that if they're not broken, you're not going to spend a thousand bucks on one. But the, uh, what I have found, and these definitely are not a sponsor of the show,
is that the Assault brand bikes, pieces of shit.
Really?
Fucking garbage.
And I, you know, we, we bought a few at our gyms.
Do they have a weight capacity though?
Well, I'm definitely over it.
But like, so, so we started using them and they fucking come apart shit's coming loose on them all
the time like constantly like you can't get through a workout without having to like tighten things
and are those the actual ones like concept is with crossfit like yep and assault the assault
air bike is the standard yeah and so is the old twin airdy? No, legitimately. That's what people use. Legitimately, I would buy, you know, if I may possibly open a CrossFit gym soon,
I would definitely be buying Schwinn Airdynes and just adapt.
And, you know, some of the scales as far as calories to distance is a little bit off,
but it'll at least be that one standard.
Schwinn Airdne's used are actually
hard to find and relatively expensive because of crossfit yeah they really hold their value
yeah big time especially if you get three or four hundred bucks on one if you have one with a
uh more current monitor then it's just as valuable as like almost an assault bike haven't those
things been around for like four decades like and they've come back we used to use them when i was in high
school as like a form of punishment yeah and i remember that my my 85 year old grandfather has
one in his office that i know he doesn't use and i hint around about it a little bit and i just keep
getting shut down immediately when i bring it up and it drives me nuts but no so these assault
bikes like so i started looking into it.
Some like CrossFit affiliate owners that have bought them
and a couple people that I have seen
have said basically that like,
they've spent more money on repairing them
and new parts than they bought,
than they spent on the bikes to begin with.
And what's an assault bike?
A couple grand or?
No, like 900 bucks.
Oh, okay.
So about the same as a rower or something like that.
But yeah, they're just dog shit.
I mean, we just bought three and they are barely hanging on.
You know, like if I'm going max out on one for 20 or 30 seconds, like I would not be surprised if I can just bend the steel on it.
I have seen Tyler use the assault bike before and it is.
It's a violent.
Yeah.
I mean, it's impressive if they don't break i would say like
here's the deal with the assault bike you you either go well it depends on what you're doing
but if you're putting out like calories or like 30 or less you just have to go as hard as you
possibly fucking can and get it over with fast because i can do like 20 calories in like 16
seconds but if you fiddle fuck around if you you shave like 20% off of that effort,
it'll take you a minute and you will suffer that whole minute.
So it's best to just blow it out and then rest for 45 seconds before you do
something else.
It'll be just as far ahead,
but no.
So those,
the rowers,
like I said,
I think they've,
they hold up pretty well.
I don't think in two years we haven't broken one.
Mine at home hasn't broken,
but them bikes just fucking rattle apart.
And I'm sure people go hard on them, but I can tell you I certainly wouldn't buy one.
That's for sure.
That's the official Massanomics position until Assault starts sending us bikes.
Then they're pretty sweet.
Then they'll be the best.
Until they come out with a big man edition.
Big and tall?
The big and tall, the husky.
It's called husky.
Well, could we do what's in my sack?
We might as well see what's in your sack, Tanner.
All right.
Today's special edition of What's in Tanner's Sack is brought to you by Apple.
That's not true.
But it could be.
It's actually brought to you by...
Traditionally,
you have to close your eyes and I put
the contents of my sack
into your hands.
Brian, I don't have
enough in my sack.
I don't have enough in my sack to put some in your hands.
Did I lose?
But Tyler and Tommy and Austin, you can all close your eyes.
Close your eyes.
I'll empty the contents of my sack into your palms.
It's like Christmas all over again.
And don't open them once.
You have to kind of guess what it is. It's like summer camp. again. Don't open them once. You have to kind of guess what it is.
It's like summer camp.
Yep.
There's that and that.
What kind of summer camp did you go to?
All right, it's all in your hands.
Does anyone know what it is?
You can lick it.
It definitely smells like oxen.
It smells aromatic.
Can I make a guess?
Yeah.
My eyes are open.
I think I know.
All right.
I think it's soap.
Yes.
It is soap.
This is Power Clean Soap.
Soap for athletes.
What do we got here?
The ingredients are all...
What do these words mean?
So what's... I got lemongrass tea so it's power power clean soap is the soap that we got here and these uh were complimentary of the team over at power clean soap uh they actually
sent us a letter the first line is hey massonom dudes. I feel like something like this is too nice for me to be holding.
It's like too nice to be wiping on your dirty body.
Put that down.
That's not the soap we use.
You just leave that in the tray for a company.
That's for looking.
That's the decorative soap.
But yeah, so this episode
of the podcast is probably not sponsored
by Apple. It's sponsored by Power Clean
Soap. Until Apple starts sending us some shit. Like some iPhones and soap. of the podcast is probably not sponsored by apple it's sponsored by power clean soap until apple
starts sending us some shit like some iphones and so uh the first ingredient is appears to be
saponified oils i'm big fan of that big fan of saponified oil is that your favorite kind of oil
yeah you all have a different flavor there uh is it a flavor or a scent? I suppose they do taste different. I kind of had, after the lemon one, the feeling
to chew on it a little bit.
Yeah.
But their advice for us is
they just wanted us all to try these out
and see what I think. At the same time?
Like together. It is for external use
only though. I'll be the judge
of that.
So I've used
I've been using mine
I suppose I can wait till we've all used it
and get our collective opinions
but I'll just tease you that
I like it
do any of you use bar soap? I wasn't
I haven't been and I got into it now
and I think I'll probably stick with bar soap
I actually used to be a big bar soap guy
and then I went away from it
then you dropped the soap a couple times, and now you're not a fan.
A few incidences.
You'll have to use this and see what your opinion is on bar soap after using it for a while.
Dibs on the lemongrass tea.
Yeah, we got lemongrass, coffee bar, and oatmeal and spice,
which smells exactly like the oatmeal and spice I eat.
You sure you're not supposed to eat this stuff?
Cool peppermint is the kind that i've been using at home and that the cool peppermint is kind of uh they said it's
their signature um i do like a good uh good mint soap no it gives you a in quotations york peppermint
patty sensation okay i didn't realize you feel all tingly yeah like there is a bit of a york
peppermint patty sensation i would say that's a
fair description uh oh the lemongrass tea which which tyler has is a very citrusy bar i do like
how that one smells yeah i kind of like i like that one too i'm not sure about the coffee and
the oatmeal and spice that's a little bit different than i'm used to you know it's different than your
typical soap soapy scent i think what does is the coffee one brown or is it like a tan it's different than your typical soapy scent, I think.
Is the coffee one brown?
Or is it like a tan? No, it's like there's...
Oh, okay.
It's...
It kind of looks like cookies and cream.
There may be specks of coffee in there, right?
Yeah, no, literally, there's ground coffee in the ingredients.
The little specks you see in the bar are ground organic coffee beans.
And the smell of the bar is pure manliness.
It has a very earthy smell
that will make you want to strap on the chainsaw or axe and bust into some wood pure manliness
strap on bust into the wood you said all i need to hear oatmeal spice it just smells like christmas
nuff said so now you kind of know about the different ones we know so yeah we'll all try
those out power clean soap. Power clean soap.
Get yourself some.
And those were freebies, so we're starting to rake it in here at the Massanomics podcast. If anyone else out there wants to send us free stuff.
If you want to send us free shit, email us at, what's the email address?
Getbig at massanomics.com.
Yep.
We'll gladly talk about the shit that was free and use it.
We'll use it.
Give a brutally honest review of our opinion.
Also, if you'd like to send us money, we'll...
We'll use that, too.
We'll give you our opinion of that and how we like it.
You can send us Christmas cars year-round, too.
Like, that's pretty cool.
Yeah, we have birthdays and stuff,
so you could just guess whose birthday it is
and send us money.
Is that it for the sack?
Yeah, that's... i completely exhausted my sack
emptied the sack all right um one of the things that's come out recently that i
have really thoroughly enjoyed was the eddie hall documentary on netflix yes which i don't know how
long that was in the making, but I definitely...
I think it was about two years, wasn't it?
Yeah, but I definitely didn't hear about it at all.
No, I didn't either.
It wasn't on my radar as something that was coming out.
It wasn't in the front of my mind, and out of nowhere it was,
oh shit, there's Eddie Hall documentaries on Netflix.
I was like, oh, fucking A.
Which initially made me think this is something they scrapped together
in the last three months and it would be kind of a hack job,
but it was really good.
And really, really thorough.
Like it was over a couple years.
Yep.
The only thing that I was a little, it's not the movie's fault,
but I was told it was like started, you know, a couple years ago
and went up until he set the deadlift world record.
500 kilograms.
That's what I thought it was, but it actually was the summer before that when he
wrote the first world record one so i was thinking when at the beginning when they were showing when
he kind of wasn't that well known early early on in the movie i was like no shit this is going to
cover from here until and now right after he set that deadlift record was kind of the end
spoiler alert the end of that documentary he uh has blown up even more since then but
yeah it's really cool Eddie Hall's been a guy I've kind of been a fan of but not uh
really didn't have a big huge understanding of what he was actually like and uh that was a
fucking badass documentary I mean it was really good everyone I've talked to has the same opinion
after watching it like everyone's like I am a big fan of Eddie Hall now.
It's hard not to like him after seeing his persona in there.
And I was just telling Tanner tonight, I was saying, you know, I got done watching it,
and it was about 11 at night, and I was so fired up.
I had to take like an hour before I could even fall asleep because I just wanted to go lift weights.
If that doesn't make you want to hit a big deadlift, nothing would.
Yeah, it was really good.
The other thing that was interesting is I didn't realize how much of an abrasive badass he was, too.
Flipping the bird in the middle of competition.
Flipping people out in mid-competition.
He's a showman.
It's not an act with him, though, either.
It really feels like that's what it is.
But I assumed what I thought was cool about the documentary is i kind of assumed he was like that
all the time like this total asshole but you see like he is a legit family man like he's a regular
person he has things he cares about and now emotions i did have a little bit of confusion
because in the beginning when he basically wasn't that making very much money and that was kind of
the point of early in the documentary,
it was kind of the little apartment and the kid and all this stuff.
He doesn't make much money.
And then his wife just drives up in a fucking $275,000 car.
So my two thoughts on that were, one, maybe it's one of those things.
Because can't you buy kits that make a car look like something that it's not?
I don't know.
Maybe it's an old shitty Bentley.
That was my first guess.
And then I was like, maybe they live in england so they get the england discount on it are bentley's cheap there
i don't fucking know yeah but uh that was the only hole i could i could shoot in that documentary but
it was good it's on netflix check it out for sure yeah that was my only thing that i disappointed
is that it didn't go for you know more current But for the amount of time it takes to make a documentary,
obviously that's the way it's going to be.
It was kind of interesting.
We watched that.
And then I actually watched that as I was trying to go to bed.
And so that didn't happen.
Just like Tommy, I was up for a while.
And then a lot of those were covering the Arnold Strongman events and stuff.
And we were all pretty jazzed up then about,
fuck yeah, I can't wait to go to the Arnold.
My wife was like, we should watch that Pumping Iron documentary.
So the next night I got to watch Pumping Iron too, which was great.
Had she seen it before?
Yes, she had. But usually every time I ask about it, she's like, again?
But that's what I was going to say is I can't,
and I haven't watched a ton of like strength training
documentaries but to me this is the newest like the new pumping iron in the way that it follows
one guy on kind of his quest to break these records and it should get you pretty jacked up
to watch kind of the same way yeah but it doesn't have like the same 70s weird porno music playing
the whole time but but besides that it was pretty good doesn't have arnold like making things unreasonably sexual out of the blue
uh pumping iron is one of the requirements for joining massonomics gym is watching pumping iron
and i think uh the eddie hall documentary might might have to join that on that list yeah
that's a prerequisite for membership.
Well, Kendall, who is a recent joined member,
we had kind of been joking that to him.
And he came back and he's like, oh, I watched Pumping Iron.
Because I was talking about it at work a while ago.
And he was kind of like listening.
So yeah, I didn't know he watched it yet.
So you guys, Austin and Brian, you both lifted in the gym before.
Brian, you'd never been there before.
What were your guys' opinions?
Was there any new toys there that you hadn't used since last time you'd been back?
Or did you get to use anything that caught your fancy?
Man, I think everything that, you know, since I was there in August, I don't think you guys had gotten any new stuff since August, really.
Those round dumbbells or whatever the hell they were.
The fat bells.
The fat bells.
Those were in.
I didn't know what the hell to do with them, though, so I didn't use them.
Brian?
Well, I was telling him it was, you know, I almost wanted to cry.
It was so beautiful.
I hadn't lifted as a gym like that for quite some time.
But, no, I think I bust out about every specialty bar I could
just because I don't have...
There's a couple of them.
We did, what, two hours of back yesterday just to try everything out.
It's like, how can I incorporate all these different bars?
No, it's great, though. It was a good time.
Did you use the bow bar at all, Austin?
I know you had mentioned that when I showed you that.
You were kind of interested.
Oh, yeah, I did, actually.
That was the first time I had used that.
I did some bench press with it.
Yeah, I like that little extra range of motion that you get there.
That was an interesting one.
I kind of feel Brian's sentiments.
I'm kind of sad every time I've got to leave that I don't get to lift in that gym
and I've got to go back to this stupid Y where I'm at.
I have one shitty rack.
At least I can deadlift there, but, God, it's depressing.
It's going to be even more depressing when January 1st rolls around
and fight idiots for equipment.
The shower could use a little work, though.
Did you guys try the shower?
Yeah, I think the shower gets lots of work.
I got up to about 40 degrees there.
I think that's where it peaked out.
I think the hot water heater is 10 gallons.
So if someone else showered that day, you're out of luck.
I just figured it was by design for the testosterone inducing rush you get from it
it doesn't get used a whole lot so
pleased to know that it did get used i have been finding like if i go there
on like a between day i'll just go there to like
lift that that's when i'll go and just do like i'm gonna do arms and stuff
and just use check out the shower. And just use all of the toys.
So that's basically what I do.
It's like, well, what do I want to play with today?
I'm going to just make sure I do curls and triceps,
and then I'm going to use whatever fucking specialty bars I feel like doing.
And with no purpose, I just use them for fun.
But it's been nice because it's been keeping things interesting.
I was a little disappointed there um sky was there and uh i had never met him before and he had never met me
before obviously and i got there and he's like oh are you thinking about joining the gym and i'm
like he has no idea i'm professor shantz this is a travesty i need to get my face out there more
often i guess we need to get get cartoon caricatures of each other.
And then that's what we'll stamp on each article.
Yep, yep.
What else we got, guys?
That's all I got.
Tanner, you're the one who came prepared.
Yeah, I do have some other stuff.
Let me look real quick here and see if there's anything that I want to bust out today
or if it's worth saving here for next time uh one thing i was going to mention is i don't know if any of
you watched the world's strongest man at all 2016 world's strongest man but their coverage like the
ability to watch world's strongest man is just fucking terrible absolutely ridiculous like it's
just i am there's not a ton of Strongman fans in the world.
I'm one of them.
So that's just shit all over.
And I want to watch it,
and I can't figure out how to watch it.
Like where I go or what I have to do to watch it.
It's not out yet, is it?
No, it's all out.
I watched the finals on Christmas Day.
My parents were like,
turn the channel, whatever.
And I'm like, oh. what is this going to be?
They started releasing the heats Thanksgiving Day,
and they finished with the finals Christmas Day.
And it's on CBS Sports Network.
Yeah.
Do they have an app or anything?
They have an app on the Roku that I downloaded,
and it's like there's no – Hopefully I'm wrong and someone can tell me
there's an easy way for me to go watch it
because I would really like to watch it.
And I can't.
Yeah, I mean it's like...
Eventually someone will put it on YouTube,
like a shitty version of it,
and I'll probably watch that.
And they like...
I don't understand it because didn't it happen in like...
Months ago.
In like August.
Which is also another terrible...
Like everyone knows what happened.
It was in Botswana.
Well, one of these years people will figure out how to broadcast sports live.
And we're not there yet.
But when that time comes...
CrossFit is way ahead of the game relative to Strongman on how they cover theirs.
At least you can see what's going on.
They'll do the live stream on YouTube.
And everything that basically ESPN wants to air live, they can.
Everything else goes to YouTube.
So they constantly have the live coverage of everything.
And it does get boring.
Like during all the heats and stuff, that can get a little bit boring.
But you can always catch the last couple heats where the real aces are going.
And that's usually what ESPN will have. And the final it'll be on espn so the final event where everything's
and then they'll do like a kind of a condensed version of all the shit that matters they'll
condense it down to like three hours and they'll air that like the next week off and on and there's
no reason they couldn't do that with the strongman stuff roll it live and then give us the one-hour version like the shit you used to see when you were a kid.
It's like such the old-school kind of distribution model, though.
I'm sure they signed some contract and they have the exclusive with it where they can only broadcast.
CBS, whatever, owns the rights to it.
They can't broadcast, can't be redistributed in any way.
And all it does is just screw over fans or people that might be interested in it and to you know getting exposure for them and one of the things that they talked about in that eddie
hall documentary was that like while you think that some of those guys are big and important and
famous like there's no money in that sport there's absolutely none so like being the strongest
men at this point probably like in the history of the world doesn't pay shit.
And it's just not marketable enough to get any coverage.
A few of those guys are getting some sponsorship.
They're getting sponsorship money.
But you essentially have to be in the top five.
But the sport itself, there's no money in.
It's not like basketball where there's money in broadcasting it.
There's money in this. There's money in this.
There's money in that.
The worst part of it, though, is that it is fun to watch.
I can totally see the argument for people aren't making money powerlifting
because a lot of stuff for powerlifting, it's not that exciting to watch.
Because there's only three things happening.
There's only three things happening.
It's on kilo plates.
So immediately, people can't even figure out what's going on.
And then there's no head-to-head competition, really.
It's your turn, my turn.
Essentially you're like watching someone take a test almost.
And so with Strongman you get that competition factor where you can see guys perform.
On any given day someone could beat anyone else just with how they're going to perform on that day
and how they can feed off the crowd and all that.
So it is a fun thing to watch.
So do you suppose we could just buy that contract out from CBS?
Well, I feel like at this point we could do a better job than they're doing.
I honestly believe that if we had five cameras, we could probably do a better job than CBS is doing on that.
For sure.
At the very least, we'd you'd it would be broadcast that day
there wouldn't be a three-month delay everybody knows who won yeah that's why that doesn't work
they made the athletes sign an agreement to where they would and all the crew that to where nobody
was going to disclose it but everybody knew that that day. Like that day, it was on Twitter.
Everybody knew who won.
It's not like some weird reality TV game show or anything.
It's not The Bachelor.
Come on, you know?
But do we want to talk about the results at all, the winners?
I haven't watched it yet, so I guess you can ruin it for me.
I only know who won.
I haven't watched it.
If you guys don't want me to ruin it, I won't say anything.
Brian Shaw won.
I guess the big – Brian Shaw wins it,
but kind of the thing that's surprising, though,
is it's pretty tight between first and second.
Third isn't far off at all.
And then after third, it's almost not even a competition anymore.
Like it's – especially like that fifth or tenth like those guys almost don't even need to be there because
they're hardly putting up points so it just shows how first of all to be considered a strong man
then a pro strong man and then to be at the top you're not even playing the same game as
your competitors but the top four aren't even playing the same game as the rest. No, no, that's what I'm saying.
Brian Shaw, Hafthor Bjornsson,
Eddie Hall, and Zydrunas Zavikas,
if anyone needs to help me.
And this year there was this newer guy,
this Janashio from, it's not Turkey.
Is he a Polish guy?
No, it's, I don't know if it's like Istanbul,
or it's something in there,
but for being a
new guy he had a pretty solid showing too but after that i mean you might as well not have
been there because you didn't you didn't matter brian uh i guess as long as you're on the podcast
we could you know it might not hurt to hear about what you you've power lifted before isn't that right yeah it's it's been a
little while but uh i used to compete quite a bit what uh what weight class were you was it raw
yeah i did the uh it was the 100 raw federation um it was still pretty new when i started off
with it but it's it's grown quite a bit now but uh no it was uh i competed at 181 and uh
let's see the last last full meet that i did um i totaled just over 1400 pounds and got an elite
total i think gosh it's been a while but it was benching in the 360s and my squat was somewhere in the 450s and then the deadlift
was around 585 or so so is deadlift your favorite lift you know actually squat is um you know it's
it's probably my worst lift uh out of the three but uh you know um it definitely goes squat deadlift
and i hate bench which is which is my bed it my best lift, but it's just so boring.
But then I just got too heavy.
I couldn't cut down to that 181 weight class anymore, and it's tough.
You jump up a weight class, and I just couldn't keep my lifts up where I wanted them to be.
Once you're totally elite in one weight class, aren't you just supposed to go total elite in the next?
Yeah, right.
It doesn't work that way.
But how many years ago was that since you last competed?
A couple or?
Oh, let's see, two kids ago.
Have you lost the baby weight yet?
You know, actually, I'm putting it on.
Would you, do you have any thoughts of competing again anytime or would you again,
or what do you think about that? You know, I've, I've gone back and forth. I think honestly,
you know, is you, geez, you do this for a long time and you train different ways and,
you know, I kind of want to do maybe some different things, you know, maybe some strongman
stuff. I'd like to do some Highland game stuff at some point. I mean, unfortunately, those things are a lot harder to train for, especially at the, you know, the cookie cutter
gyms that I have to use. But, you know, I think I still do the main power lifts all the time.
So that probably won't change.
No, it's just, it's just there. It's ingrained. It's just basically the first thing I do whenever I hit the gym.
It's almost always one of those main lifts. And they're still up there pretty good.
But I don't know.
I think I just want to try something a little bit different
just to keep it interesting and try something new.
If you want to check out Brian in action,
Tanner and I always have a good good chuckle about this
but we used to do some videos on a frequent basis and we had brian do one of shiko training that he
was our most it's our most viewed video ever by at least double which which is very disappointing
it's really bad it was an editing genius
I think it gets so many views
because they see it and they just can't believe
that someone posted that
to watch it one more time
it's like oh they're doing it in an ironic way
it does it continually gets views all the time
I don't you know
it wouldn't have the heart to take it down.
Yeah, that is, that is interesting because it does, as of right now, like just, just
totally outperforms all of our other videos still.
I think it's the topic of, uh, shakeout training or pronunciation of that.
I struggle with every time.
I never know for sure, but I say it different every time.
Yeah.
You're going to get it right a few times.
I just say it quickly and a little bit of a mumble.
Hey girl.
I do think it's that people...
There's not a ton out there about
easily
finding information.
I think that's kind of why
if people are searching that, that pops up and they watch it and they're like,
huh, I'd still like to know more about this.
It was interesting.
I did do quite a bit of research on it, you know.
The idea, everybody thinks, you know, there's a bunch of templates out,
and what I found is everybody just picks a template and does it in order.
And the way he designed it is each workout is designed, you know, basically for a specific person in a very specific training part of their training cycle.
And they weren't made to be just put in any, you know, order.
And you read a little bit about it and you understand, you know, you take your strengths and your weaknesses and you find the template that's going to improve your weaknesses.
And, you know, it took a little bit of doing for me you know I wasn't just going to follow you know I think I don't remember the templates that everyone does but there's three main ones that
everyone kind of hits with a peak so I think a lot of people do do it wrong so like at Westside
Barbell Louie Simmons says you know you don't really train Westside Conjugate unless you're at Westside Barbell.
Otherwise you're just doing some form of conjugate
because you're not there doing what they do.
Is that, you know, if someone's not being trained by Boris Shacow,
do you think they're not really getting the full effect of that training
or do you think someone that's educated enough on it could adapt it for themselves?
Well, you know, I managed to to adapt it i'm not that smart so i mean i just it took a little research you know and i think you know you probably need to be honest with yourself and
you know figure out which ones are going to make you do this stuff
but it is a balance you got to find the ones that are going to make you hit your weaknesses,
but you also have got to find the ones that are going to put you in the most success. For me,
you know, a lot of them, people look at them and they see tons of volume.
Well, I'm not a big volume guy. I mean, I could handle high intensities, heavy weights,
high frequency, but I knew that if I came into one workout and I pounded it and hit myself
with a hundred sets of 10, I was dead. No, it wasn't going to get anything out of me the rest
of the weeks, you know, or the rest of the days that week. So, I mean, you got to look at the,
the different templates and you can kind of, I think you can adjust it, you know, um,
if you read enough on it and really be honest with yourself. And don't just look at the three main templates.
I mean, they're numbered up to 40-something for a reason.
I mean, there's a lot of different ones out there.
But, yeah, it takes a little time sometimes.
It's not like you can just pick one up and go.
Or you could, but I wouldn't recommend it.
Yeah, trying to get into shakeout
training would would take a little more effort than say trying like five three one i don't know
if you're familiar with that at all but you can pretty much read that book in two hours and oh
you don't even need you got an app now yeah just put your numbers into the app yeah but you know
it's any of these systems are gonna work as long as you believe in it and you're training hard and you're not being completely stupid.
I just feel bad for the guy that keeps looking up the Shaco training and they keep pulling up.
It's like, that idiot again with the cell phone camera and the beard.
I just want to find a normal video of it.
Hopefully there's better resources out there on it than my video.
There is somewhere.
Well, guys, Tanner, I'm going to give you this last opportunity
to come up with anything else before we wrap up.
Yeah, I got other stuff.
I'm just going to save it for next time.
All right.
You're sure?
Yeah. Because right when I start now is when you're going start coming up there's kind of a thing where usually when tyler tries to finish the podcast i'll literally be like
all right make sure you go to the store check out the faith hands big all right hold on
i forgot about this one thing no no we'll wait we'll wait for this one. All right. Well, thanks a lot for listening, everybody.
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I don't have anything cool yet, like the Instagram, sorry.
I was thinking you should maybe think about getting Instagram.
I mean, as the co-owner of an online business,
maybe you should have some sort of online presence.
We could keep up on your lifting.
Yeah, we could keep up on your lifting from a distance if you posted
lifting videos every once in a while.
Nobody wants to see that patheticness.
That's how he can still
keep his street cred up.
It's all hidden. It's like, hey, you guys don't
know what I really can do.
Brian, can we have the last
four of your social security number or something?
Yeah, it's... You can find me on one video on Massanomics.
Our most viewed ever.
It's a fairly popular one.
He can be found at youtube.com forward slash Massanomics,
and there, just look for our introduction to Shaco training video.
Very basic introduction.
And share that to all your friends
when you tell them about how great massonomics is by far going to be our most viewed video now
it may go viral i bet if you're listening and you haven't watched it you're pretty curious at this
point you're gonna want to see it tanner how can the world find you? I'm Tanner. You can check me out on Instagram at Massanomics.
And just another comment I was going to say,
when we're talking about the Facebook articles,
even if, and you mentioned buying stuff on the website,
even if you don't buy stuff on the website,
if you could share it,
if you actually like an article that we post,
if you could literally share it on you actually like an article that we post if you could literally share it on facebook or you know maybe maybe engage in it and so
click click like i've had people go go out of their way to talk to me in person about stuff but
can't can't like say or comment anything i i have had people come up to me and tell me about
how much they like the articles in which we make and And it's people that I don't even really talk to sometimes.
And yet I have never fucking seen them click like on an article.
So I know that's where you're seeing it.
Just click fucking like.
That's all you got to do.
We are trying to get those out to more people.
Believe it or not, we don't do it for nothing.
Currently we are.
You're doing it for soap. Believe it or not, we do do it for nothing. Currently we are. You're doing it for soap.
Believe it or not, we do
do it for nothing.
But seriously, if you could share it,
you know, like it for sure. That takes
absolutely no effort. And then even if
you just wanted to do us a favor
and you actually do like it, you could share it.
Maybe we'll, you know,
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someday.
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