Massenomics Podcast - Ep.81: The Spotter Chronicles

Episode Date: October 22, 2017

This week, the guys cover a wide variety of topics including a few of the finer points of being a spotter. This includes being spotted, any major spot-related meltdowns that they've run into in the p...ast, and what makes a good spotter and a shitty spotter. Click the audio link above, or check out the video link below... If you don't already have a closet full of Massenomics gear, go to the MASSENOMICS STORE and load up on swag... Also, please CLICK THIS LINK TO GIVE US A 5 STAR RATING ON ITUNES... Click this text to follow Massenomics on Instagram... Vote Massenomics for President in 2020.. Have your barber shave our logo into the side of your head.. Maybe get a Massenomics tattoo while you're at it.    Or you could sign up for our email newsletter at the bottom of this page. Stay Strong, M

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Massanomics, the world's strongest podcast. Find us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at Massanomics. Make sure you go visit massanomics.com. There you'll find the rest of our powerful content. While you're there, check out our store and buy yourself some of that sweet Massanomics gear. Go, go, gadget podcast. and buy yourself some of that sweet Massanomics gear. Go Go Gadget Podcast. Alright ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this week's episode of the Massanomics Podcast. I am Tyler, joined by Tommy.
Starting point is 00:00:35 What's up? And Tanner. What's up? So there's a lot of stuff going on this week. We had, was it USAPL Nationals? Yep. Raw Natties. Raw Nattiesatties dirtiest of natties and then we had the uh big dogs was going down in australia what else anything else this week
Starting point is 00:00:55 uh america's strongest man is this oh yeah i didn't get really uh america's strongest man like it's going on today yeah today is the second day of it all i know i'll give you the five minute or one minute rundown of what i know about it dimitar savatinov is apparently an american why do they why do they let him do that he lives in florida so i guess he gets oh he does america strong yeah that's his address is the rule you have to have a residence in America? Because I remember Brian Shaw making a comment like, America's Strongest Man wasn't American. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:29 And I didn't know if the rule was just, it's just the name of the meet, or if you have to live in America to compete. It must just be you have to live in, like, that's your home base. But if your name is Dimitar Savitinov, should you be in? He's part of the melting pot of America. That's what makes us great. I feel like more american kids should be named but jerry pritchett after day one was crushing it and it looked like he was going to win pretty easily uh the other uh interesting name besides basically those two was uh travis ortmeyer this is his comeback his first first meet and like well first
Starting point is 00:02:07 strongman competition in i don't know five to ten years and he had a big long post on instagram he didn't have instagram at all up until like six months ago he just got it okay and he just finally had a post um just before this this first competition of his this weekend and said it was a big, long thing. Everyone's been asking him where he went. And he was like, he basically fell off the face of the earth. And he said he basically did fall off the face of the earth. And he went through a divorce and all this terrible personal stuff
Starting point is 00:02:39 and hated training and quit doing it all together and really didn't train whatsoever for over five years and is getting back into it now. He was kind of, because I'm not super familiar with the name, but was he kind of like a stone expert? Yeah, they call him the Texas Stone Man. He's from Texas. He had the world record for the biggest stone at the time,
Starting point is 00:03:03 which is funny too because this is not that long ago you know seven years ago he had the biggest stone ever lifted which was like 480 pound stone which this year we saw brian shaw at arnold lift a was it 565 or yeah like yeah 550 plus so in the course of just a few years that's really gotten pushed a lot yeah but he's a he was good all all around he competed at worlds you know made the final for world's strongest man at least a few years and competed you know he was in the mix i don't think he ever podiumed but yeah it's crazy like how much how far he dropped off of being relevant whatsoever like 100 not even training to now trying to get back to that level again you know like he's basically trying to make that climb from nothing like your average
Starting point is 00:03:53 person almost to strongest in the world like to make that climb twice in your life yeah well having yeah so were there any other big names like like robert oberst or no i didn't see him in there brian shaw obviously obviously doesn't do it. Brian Shaw I think basically does World's Strongest Man and the Arnold. Yeah, that's what it seems like because you don't see one or two other Arnolds. Does he just do a couple of the Arnolds? Yeah, I think he just does a couple. I don't even understand how that works anymore.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I don't. And what was the yoke at the Arnold? Wasn't it like 11 or 1,200 pounds? Oh, no. It was like 16 or 15. Oh, it was that much? It was insane. The first like 11 or 1,200 pounds? Oh, no. It was like 16 or 15. Oh, it was that much? Insane. The first one was like 1,200.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Oh, okay. The first run. Yeah. Yeah, then the last one was like 1,500. Okay, because then I saw the video of Jerry Pritchard doing that. Like 1,100 pounds. 1,100 pounds. And he was going like,
Starting point is 00:04:38 God, he's making that like way easier. He flew with it like 11 seconds. Yeah. Yeah, but that like 1,500 pound yoke that they did at the Arnold was like so heavy that it wasn't even cool to watch. No, it wasn't actually cool to watch. I mean, the implement looked cool, but that was.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Yeah, like stand up, fall forward three inches. Yeah. Fall forward. Not super, super compelling to watch. No. Yeah. But we had Ray Williams was lifting at Nationals. And do you know what he hit in his squat?
Starting point is 00:05:12 I don't know. Just because this was like, this is the thing that sucks. This is the thing that sucks about the USAPL is that they're trying to be a legit sport. But at the same time, it's so damn hard to find live. Like, I want to know the score of a football game. I mean, it's almost impossible to not know that answer in less than five seconds. And it's hard to find. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Maybe there's some website that's giving awesome live scoreboard updates and everything, but I don't know what that is. No. Maybe someone out there can. So I guess that's the point. We don't really know. It's hard to keep track of it until it seems like, well, for sure, when the official results get released in, I don know a month or something yeah but uh world's
Starting point is 00:05:49 strongest man and our news source on it is instagram instagram reddit like you're just kind of hoping and like there's people that are watching it happen on the live feed that are making notes of things and i just kind of got to trust what they're saying is correct it's funny could you imagine someone like kale beck who has like a massive strongman following too like because that's the same way yeah is it just gets like questions on his facebook by a thousand people like so any updates yeah it's like yeah let me type out the answer to you and then a thousand other people he often posts something about that too how he's like don't ask like he's like and don't ask me what's going on at worlds or something you know something like that but uh ray williams did
Starting point is 00:06:29 miss a lift which is rare as far as i know the first time he's actually missed a squat in competition he's i think he's passed it yeah but i don't think he's ever do you remember what he missed was it 1080 yeah 1080 is on a third attempt So we know that there might be a limit to him for now. And it looked like it. It was three-quarters of the way there. That's a weird spot to stop a lift unless he was hurt. But his walk, like him on racking it and walking it out, it takes a long time. And he's breathing in and out a lot to the point where I'm like, man, is he going to –
Starting point is 00:07:05 Maybe you're just tired. He's kind of like that anyways, though, compared to a lot of guys. Yeah, he really takes his time. He does, and he'll put that weight on his back and stand there with it and just breathe and breathe and breathe. I mean, it was like a 10-second process at least before he even started the squat. That's one of the oddest things to me about his squat is, and then even comparing my own very limited experience,
Starting point is 00:07:28 is that when I'm out there, I'm basically like, I'm ready for this call 10 seconds ago, even though it's not that much time. Anytime I squat, I tend to rush it because I view like having, especially if it's heavy, having like that much weight on you is like the power mark in like a mortal combat game or you know you play a video game and your guy catches fire you're like oh fuck get it off but that whole time your health goes down yeah and that's what it's like every time you get out you unrack it yeah i just feel my my strength just getting used up just standing you know and i
Starting point is 00:08:01 think it has to be like that a little bit, but apparently not to him because like. It works. Yeah. Yeah. But he did have, they did have a little time, hard time helping him back on the re-rack of that. You know, they spotted him decently and got him up, but they couldn't quite catch it in the top squat pins
Starting point is 00:08:19 and ended up dumping it down onto the. The bench. Yeah, the bench pins on the IPF rack. Yeah. Which is probably a little unnerving spotting 1,000 pounds. Yeah. What I think is interesting to think about for someone like, this applies to not very many people, but you could say Ray Williams,
Starting point is 00:08:37 it applies to Eddie Hall, people like that that set these crazy world records that every time Ray Williams goes to squat in competition, people kind of expect to see him break his own world record with an even bigger squat. It seems like it's one of those linear things that it should never end. That's kind of the mentality people are getting. Yeah, but for him, that has to be really tough because at some point, he's already the best by miles. And maybe he can't squat anymore.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Basically the best that ever has. You know what I mean? And by so far. But maybe he just can't squat anymore, so is the rest of his lifting career even going to be for him? Even because everyone wants to see him do more, even though he's the best there ever was. He only squat 1 do we know what the most he's ever is it like 10 55 67 it's right in that area maybe it's 55 yeah it'd be interesting to know what his attempts were before
Starting point is 00:09:36 that that he did because this was a third attempt yes i believe right yeah yeah this was third attempt for sure it'd be nice to know those or like ed if Eddie Hall goes and does a competition that has a max deadlift and he does less than 500 kilograms, it's kind of like. I could be wrong, but I'll probably put it this way. Eddie Hall will never lift 500 kilos again. I don't think so. Because he's cutting weight now. But he's purposely not force-feeding himself,
Starting point is 00:10:00 so he's 50, 60 pounds lighter than he was months ago. In less than like two years, he is like. character that just yeah gets that fire let's do yeah half thor's been on a fucking tear though have you seen that yeah he was at the vikings game i want to get into that too but he uh he you know he's basically i think he's squatted and deadlifted 880 and he said he's got his eyes on a thousand pound squat very soon and that now he's really setting his sights in on that 500 kilo deadlift too and and he which that is a big fucking that is a like a thousand pound squat at his height is is in my opinion would be the most impressive well and even we just this last weekend or it was pro, or what do they call it, Big Dogs.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Yeah. And Milanochev, I think, had like 1037, something like that. And I don't know if anyone broke 1,000 outside of him. Is that what Milanochev squatted? It was around there. I'm telling you, I had somewhere in my Instagram the full spreadsheet of all of the top finishers and what their top lifts were. And it's basically all the over a thousand squat raw squatters squatting together else except for like ray williams is you
Starting point is 00:11:13 know yeah like ray williams the only person not there basically yeah and milanichev was was he he was maybe the only one that squatted over a thousand pounds yeah so here's the uh and that's all the best guys. Well, yeah, so with that – we're really jumping around here, guys. I don't care. With that, the play scenes, this says confirmed, so you know it has to be right. So this is Big Dogs 2, is that what they call it? Yeah, Pro Raw Big Dogs 2 in Australia.
Starting point is 00:11:39 And this is just the – actually, this is kind of interesting. Raw with wraps, monolith, deadlift bar, untested, kind of the whole standard thing with that. No weight divisions or formula used, just the total. Takes home the prize money of $40,000 Australian dollars, which I don't know. I'm going to guess it's like $30. Yeah, it's probably. You take off all the zeros, you're at $40.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Get you a drink on the flight home. But this post says, Confirmed lifters with current best competition total. There it goes. Still doesn't have that. Okay, edit. Final results. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Milanochev ended with a total of 11.05. Kilos. Tanner, you're on the kilo count. Well, Tommy's kind of also like well yeah mentally that puts me around i'm guessing 23 high 23s 24 36 24 36 okay so that that's a big total yeah that's getting up there uh so he had an 1105 total in kilos second was sean doyle with 1090. So he was 15 kilos behind. 2403, still over 2400. Yep, so he was 15 kilos behind.
Starting point is 00:12:49 I can tell you that is 33 pounds. And I do know that Sean had the biggest bench and the biggest deadlift of the competition both. Yep, so Sean had. Squat was obviously a ways behind. Yep, so it looks like Sean had a 260 bench, which that's close to 600 if it's not 600. 573.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Okay. So, yeah, and then he had a deadlift of 395. 871. 871. I'm surprised Eric Lillibridge didn't deadlift more than that. See, a lot of those guys have grip issues and stuff. Or Dan, too. But Dan deadlift it all right.
Starting point is 00:13:25 The interesting thing was Dan's bench was actually top three. Yeah, so then in third place we have tied. We have Dan Bell and Alex Simon with both 1,077.5 kilos, which it's crazy that at that point you're still tying someone down to the.5. Yeah, geez. 2,376. No, no, no. And Eric Lillibridge also had that same total. That's a three-way tie. you're still tying with someone down to the point five yeah jesus two thousand three oh no no and and eric lillybridge also had that same total three way tie 1077.5 2376 who's that alex simon alex simon never heard of him about to get him on my so so then the crazy part is you go from
Starting point is 00:14:00 being a three-way tie for third to now you're in sixth place with the next person. But looking at some of those lifts there, Dan Bell had a 445 squat, which looks like that ties him for... 981. Yep. Eric Lillibridge also had a 445. 981. And Milanochev wins that contest with a 470. Dan missed what looked like his third attempt.
Starting point is 00:14:25 He had posted him missing. I bet it was close to whatever Milanochev did, too. Well, I'm thinking that probably, yeah, had something to do with it. From what I read, it sounds like, from everything I've read, seen, Milanochev is like a technician on meat day. Like, everyone says he does not miss lifts. It's not unusual for him to go 9 for 9. If not, 8 for 9 is pretty standard. And do what he does not miss lifts. Like it's not unusual for him to go nine for nine. If not, eight for nine is pretty standard.
Starting point is 00:14:48 And do what he does. Do what he needs to do to win the meet. Yeah. And it sounds, it looked like here, I thought I already went five for nine. Like people were saying he had kind of a bad day. He was sick apparently or something. I did kind of hear him. But even on his bad day, he's still winning by 15 kilos or 33 pounds.
Starting point is 00:15:05 So he is kind of still in a different league when that's how it shakes out. Yeah. But it's funny you see all those big deadlifts. You know, Eric Lillibridge pulling 910 pounds. Yeah, I think in competition or in training out there, I'll go, he had like 920 or something. I think it might have been 920, and it looks like it flies almost. There's some interesting variables, too, though. Like, you know, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Squatting 1,000 pounds prior. Yeah, yeah. I don't know what that takes out of a guy, but I'm sure it's not. Well, I heard it's kind of hard. I heard it's tough. I think also flying to Australia. Yeah. When they flew to Australia, what it's been like since they got there.
Starting point is 00:15:48 That's true. You know how it goes. If you travel, I think people tend to forget too, if you travel at all, you are spending so much time on your feet. Even. Your airports, your walk, you're going here, you're going there. You're going to stop to check this place out. Even if you're taking it easy, it's not easy at home. Your recliner's not there you know it's just it's not that chill yeah so i think there's there could be
Starting point is 00:16:12 something to be said for sure i i like to think about it when we're our flight is not like you're not going to feel like right great when we were at the arnold like all that crazy stuff but just think if you were there and you had to be strong and you're like trying to compete like just just trying to get into the building is like its own and it's gotta still be it's gotta still be like that even if you're one of the guys going to it's a logistical concern just figuring out how to get in where to get in and then where to go once you're in right definitely yeah that um yeah it's's interesting. Let's rewind back to, let's see, do we talk about Hafthor? Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:49 So Hafthor was at, is at the Vikings game today. He got to blow the big horn to kick everything off. There was pictures of him on the field with, like, some NFL players. Other than Kyle Rudolph, who happens to be like six foot seven or six foot eight like they all look like children the question is like could he just play like nose tackle and just it's a good question i mean i don't know what i mean i know what the nfl's drug testing policy yeah feel like Hafthor might be a little outside of that. I still, if my two senses let know, he probably wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:17:30 I think it's just a quickness factor. I don't think. Not athletic. Well, not to say he's not. For what he does, he's like the most athletic person in the world. Yeah, that's the thing. He would be more athletic, I think, than, say, any other person who is hoping to squat and deadlift over 1,000 pounds.
Starting point is 00:17:46 But, like, you've got guys like Ray Williams that can squat 1,000 pounds and he couldn't make it in the NFL. Blaine Sumner, same thing. Insane strength athlete. The interesting thing, though, is that those guys don't move in their sport now. Oh, true. Yeah, true. That's a little bit of a tradeoff.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Halfthor does have to move, but then again, he's not moving 40 yards fast. Brian Shaw would be the other guy to compare in the same boat. He also weighs 400 and some pounds. You'd think he could probably play D-tackle. Yeah, I can't imagine that in a game they wouldn't be a factor in some way. I feel like they'd at least be a handful. Yeah. Maybe not.
Starting point is 00:18:20 I wouldn't want to lock him in for five years. Yeah. But it'd be interesting to see someone like that, you know, half-throw six-nine, strong as shit. You're not just dragging a basketball player. Yeah, like how someone would handle him versus like a J.J. Watt type. Essentially, and I would look at it more like, you know, put him on the inside of the defensive line and have him throw people out of the way and put his fucking hands up on a pass.
Starting point is 00:18:40 That's all you do. You put those fucking mitts in the air and wave them around. It's a problem for yeah and uh i think that would be that would be interesting but but probably like the technical aspect of like nfl offensive linemen how good they are with their hands and stuff like that like if you just literally put half floor out there like tomorrow i bet he would just get yeah crushed someone took two palms right to his gut. If there was an NFL offensive lineman sitting here right now, they would probably laugh at the –
Starting point is 00:19:10 And I feel like they would be insulted. The idea that we're throwing this out there. Right. That's what I would think. We're probably right. But it is – and just like if you see Brian Shaw in person, if you put him directly above the center in football, like what would they – What would they do?
Starting point is 00:19:24 Yeah. directly above the center in football, like what would they do? What would they do? I mean, it seems if you have to see these guys in person to understand. Yeah, these aren't big like we are big. These are big. These people are big like giants big. Yeah, but I don't know. It would be really fun to see.
Starting point is 00:19:39 We got to see it with Brock Lesnar, not like he's as big as those guys, but it was like. And he didn't do well. Yeah, right. He also. He's not 400 400 pounds or anything but he is like a freak he's a freak athletically yeah I'd be interested to see what kind of actual strength numbers he has because I would be I think he's really athletic I think he is strong and I think he moves really well and probably doesn't really do that but my question is like legit how much you suppose he could squat how much you think he can deadlift probably could bench a lot because he probably just because he does that yeah but um yeah i i would be certain though that his strength because
Starting point is 00:20:12 i remember when brock lesnar came as was a one pre-season with the vikings and it was there was nothing impressive that happened at all i remember running down also he did not move very well and that's when you also realize the sheer athleticism of these guys. It's not just speed. It's not just lifting. It's not just speed. It's like the top-end speed, the quickness, the jumping. The thing that you
Starting point is 00:20:36 literally can't train or coach into anyone. You can dial that in a couple percent, but you're not going leaps and bounds. These guys are freaks. You either have that or you don't. It's like what we touched on in the article we had of if these NFL players power lifted. We had like 10 guys that we talked about, and we got so much backlash from people reading it.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Like, oh, you think they could really do that? It's like these guys are so much more genetically gifted. Here's my deal. These guys are so much more genetically gifted. Here's my deal. They're not playing a sport that can pay them tens of millions of dollars a year because they had other... They're literally the freakiest of the freaks, which qualifies them for that type of job.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Right. So to be like, no, they're soft. It's like, I don't know. You don't think if... J.J. Watt decided he wanted to power lift. Within six months, he couldn't do some crazy stuff? He may not be the best of all time. He may not win.
Starting point is 00:21:32 But in a small window, he's going to make you and all of your friends like total idiots. I feel like if he did it, that within two years he would cover more ground than anyone else can in two years. Yeah. And that would definitely be better than all of us. You know what I mean? On day one, yeah. And also, he would be better than every single person who would pipe up to say that he wouldn't be very good.
Starting point is 00:21:54 That's the other thing. Everyone who chimes in on that article is like, I don't know. It's like, all right, well, let's be real. You don't total what they total now. Yeah. If Dan Bell or Blaine Sumner commented on something and said, you don't total what they total now yeah if if uh dan bell or blaine sumner commented on something and said hey i don't think so then it's like well maybe you guys know something you know like yeah but they those guys aren't saying things like that because they
Starting point is 00:22:14 probably know like but i i do remember when brock lesnar but i would be interested it would be interesting to know how strong he actually is yeah just i bet you could find something on the internet of uh something about his bench. I certainly would be less concerned with how strong he actually is than just making sure that no matter what, I never make him mad and allow him to get his hands on me at the same time. Yeah. Do one of those things or the other, but never them both at the same time. Right. But that's, but anyway, so Half Thor was there and i don't know you know if you
Starting point is 00:22:45 guys checked back at the arnold but you know we were cool with half core half thor before the vikings were we did it before it was yeah sean said how uh it's it sounded like a lot of the vikings players were kind of starstruck and we're like yeah that's what's been there done that i don't know thor yeah bffs oh that just. I call him half. I would have texted him. I just call him all happy. If I would have known the Vikings wanted him there, we could have called him and let him know. He probably would have needed our help getting that school chant going.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Yeah. I put him up in a suite in the massonomics. Stadium. I thought it was interesting that 80, 80 deadlift that Thor did. He did it without straps. And that's like the first... You don't see strongmen doing that ever. No, he's squatting
Starting point is 00:23:29 to depth in kilo plates, a regular barbell, and he's deadlifting without straps. And I'm like, what are you bringing up? That would be awesome to see him do a power shoot would that would be awesome to see him doing
Starting point is 00:23:45 do just show up to a meet yeah that would be awesome wouldn't it yeah yeah and what the way he squatted and dead lifted both those 80 80s it's like oh you could just do way more than that today you know enough to where it kind of hurts your feelings yeah like even that 80 80 squat i thought it still looked yeah easy i mean i don't know if that 880 squat, I thought it still looked easy. I mean, I don't know if you get to say that word when you're squatting 900 pounds or whatever. I'm sure no matter what, it doesn't feel easy. No. But it sure moved.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Yeah, it's interesting. To go back to, like, Ray Williams spotting, you guys ever had, like, a catastrophic spotting meltdown where either your spotter sucked or the person you were spotting sucked? I had one in the gym. Actually, it wasn't catastrophic. It was annoying. Most of those are just annoying. This one was like, for one, if one that could go wrong, this would be the one. It was just on my, I was in the gym alone.
Starting point is 00:24:43 So I got through my squat workout and everything everything and it was a fairly heavy day so i was pretty shot after that but after my heavy squat i followed it up with like some light bench and i usually go narrow grip on that and it's it's some heavier rep stuff and bench is one of those like you can go from feeling good to dying in or at least i can to like dying in one rep like my triceps just there's nothing there and i do my first two sets and first one's fine second one's like this is really slowing down third one's like i could use a spotter well about five minutes before that we had some some of those younger guys like high school kids that used to come to the gym they're really skinny one i can't remember his name now but yeah i asked him if he could spot me it was too i said 225 on the bench which you know with that much weight, you can't.
Starting point is 00:25:26 There's not a whole lot that can go wrong. And I was going for eight reps, six rep, do it. And I'm like, damn, that was hard. Like the seventh one could be a grinder. I go for the seventh one. I'm a little over halfway up, and it's just like someone sat on the bar. And this kid's like, my words are, take it, take it, take it. No clue what to do there.
Starting point is 00:25:48 And the worst part was he couldn't deadlift 225 off my chest. Even with your help. Even with my help, couldn't get it. So we had to roll it down. And that was when I'm like, ugh. I have had to do that before. Not, you know, a long time ago I've had to do that before. Not, you know, a long time ago I've had to do that and get it stuck in your chest. And you go like this until you get it right to your waistline.
Starting point is 00:26:13 And then it hurts. That's not a fun place for it to be sitting. But you can sit up and then get it off. Other than that, I've never seen like a really good like oh actually uh well that wasn't really a spotting issue no i can't well when the newspaper was there the one time in the old gym to record video uh that was just a wonky sergeant ryan had a yeah and had a bench that got dumped like one side during a photo shoot. With a third party photographer. Not good.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Yeah. I've never seen any bad like squat misses or anything like, because everyone knows like if they're going hard, they get a spotter and they know how that system works. The interesting thing that I've noticed though is like, so I see it a lot with CrossFit have for the last few years is like people training CrossFit gyms. It's like they have bumpers. So they'll fucking miss lifts all fucking day, which is to me – Miss lifts isn't really good.
Starting point is 00:27:08 It gives you an easy out. It gives you an out. And that's where I'm at with it always is I'm like – I would rather – like at my gym specifically, I'd rather have you ask for a spotter and commit to making this fucking lift. And if you can't lift this, if you can't make this lift, make that decision before because this isn't a fucking meet. You're training.
Starting point is 00:27:26 So if you don't think that – if you think you might not make this lift, you're done. Like take weight off. Yeah, and that's like – Because that's not the point of your training. Yeah, and that's not even conducive to going – like if you're going for a heavy lift and it's like, nah, might not get it. We'll just – like if you just – even before you start, have this out in your mind. Like I'll just throw it if i'm not going to be there once it gets difficult i'll just the other thing that pisses me off is you can't fucking bail a lift out your back always you know i mean like there's only one way
Starting point is 00:27:56 that you're going to miss in which that's going to work so like what if something else happens like that's not hard like that's your fucking plan? It's like, oh, I'll stick and I'll bail. It's like, no, no, no, no. You got to learn to do this right. That's one thing we find with crossfitters. They don't know how to spot it all because everybody gets their own fucking rack and everybody gets their own bench.
Starting point is 00:28:17 You know what I mean? It's just like... And if people are used to dumping it, you really don't need to... No, but to me as a coach, it's the worst thing in the world is to allow people to miss lifts because that's like i tell people all the time even if we're training we're building to like a let's try to find your heaviest set of four your heaviest set of five
Starting point is 00:28:36 right like i don't and i'll have to tell a class and it usually takes a couple classes of messing it up before i have to tell them you'll have to tell everybody like hey listen we are trying to learn how much you can lift for five not what you can't lift for five you know what i mean let's you know i mean because there's there's like a couple numbers that you can hit for five there's a whole fucking world full of numbers over that that you can't hit so you can pick any of those and not fucking lift it if that's what we're doing here. And really, it's better to get five and leave some on than to get three. Mentally, and especially for me mentally, and even physically, you couldn't argue not. What I do is I tell them, I was like, here's the deal, guys. I said, almost every set that counts down at Masonomics,
Starting point is 00:29:26 with a squat at least, guys are using a spotter. All the time. Unnecessarily. Oh, absolutely. You just want to get a little. It's like the buddy system. Like, you're going to squat? Get your buddy.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Come here, man. Rub up on me. I need a man breathing down my neck to know it's okay. But the interesting thing is that I don't believe that I have witnessed even a single missed squat at Mastodonics in a couple years. It's pretty rare. Not even one. At least not that I've seen. They're rare.
Starting point is 00:30:01 I can't think of it. They're rare. Well, because people don't max out that often either. That's the other thing. And when they're maxing out, they're being smart about it too. They're not like, oh, last time I did this, well, let's go 25% heavy. Yeah, what usually happens when we max out there is it's like, yeah, I don't know, this working set got me kind of close.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Why don't I try to grab a single quick over top of there and just chip that number up a little bit more. That's about usually how that goes. Or someone number up a little bit more and that's about usually how that goes or someone will have a target in mind and a day in mind and then that's when they'll do it and the squat misses usually consist of like someone needing a tap under their armpits like you can get kind of stuck if and then you just give them that tap and then they're good and it's it's that little bit of that on a squat can make you like if you've got to meet, if you could have someone just kind of or for me just to like hold my chest, like not even to just pull me backwards. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Well, and that's what it's probably squat 50 more pounds. Someone was just there to like, like, keep me from. And that's a lot of squats, like talking about the like throwing them off your back and bailing out. Like a lot of times when you start to get heavy, for me, the problem is I start to – it gets really easy to get out of position forward. Well, and that's where I'm at too is I'm like, if you're lifting a fucking real weight, that's not an option because the way gravity is going to work,
Starting point is 00:31:16 you're going to get folded in half. I wouldn't be comfortable trying – I've never done that. But like if you're even just trying to teach me how to do that, I'd be like – Plus if you are locked in, yeah, as tight as you should be yeah like that's the deal is that it's like a symptom of you've already fucked up five things along the way so don't even anyway i it drives me i had a guy dump fucking almost 375 pounds into my fucking elbows after asking for a spot and i never was closer to fucking kicking somebody right in the ass that's
Starting point is 00:31:45 a really good way to get hurt like yeah yeah and and i am legitimately people yeah in a crossfit gym i am hands down the person you want to drop that much weight into their forearms for sure and i liked it very little don't fucking think that that's a thing that should be happening bumper plates or anything don't save like 300 pounds no it doesn't matter what the weights are or anything like that's gonna i wasn't worried about the commotion or the floor it was like dude you almost hurt me and you asked me to come and do this yeah you know what i mean it's like it's like meet have me meet you around the corner and then hit me in the face in the back. What the fuck, man? You brought me here. There is a lot of even
Starting point is 00:32:27 unspoken spotter etiquette or just general unspoken. For us, I think it's unspoken. What about benching? Benching, squatting, spotting. I feel like bench is one that there's just always a spotter there because most people want to lift off anyways yeah and it's a dangerous it is i was gonna say with squatting
Starting point is 00:32:49 though with the unspoken thing is the other day i had been getting some like spots from you and chuck and um i start going over the squat rack and i'm like i didn't even tell tanner if i needed a spot and like you're just right behind me i'm like oh perfect don't even have to say anything about it like and then like i was in it's funny then i even i picked up on that and then uh i was also squatting and i was kind of about ready to get ready to squat it was just you i you you myself and chuck in the gym i was getting ready to squat you were getting ready to squat and chuck could sense that i wasn't going to be there to like spot you again so then he automatically just went over there and was like ready to go.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Yeah, it's like everyone kind of has that sick sense of what's going on in the area. Like no one's completely oblivious to everyone else. Right. And then on bench wise, I think if you're having someone spot you that's never have before, somebody you don't know, it's always good to let them know like I'm going to do this on three or something like that but when you spot people a lot of people on rack a lot completely differently yeah one of the ones that still surprise me the most is chuck because he he i mean his his uh his unrack is almost like uh like a pin press because he just oh he launches
Starting point is 00:34:04 out of there which hey i mean Chuck's got an awesome bench, so I can't argue with his technique. But, yeah, like after you spot a lot of guys and then get to Chuck, it's a surprise. It's like, oh, I guess I'm just here for looks. Like you don't actually need me to do anything. Yeah, I'm not doing anything. And, like, when I bench, I want it brought out of me.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Yeah, I almost don't lift it out. I almost have the person, like, bring out of me. I almost don't lift it out. I almost have the person bring it to me. Shane and Chuck would be the polar opposites of people to spot on bench because Shane literally doesn't really engage and tell you. Shane touches the bars so he knows he's lined up and removes his hands and puts them on. All right, let me know when you've got it right here. Here's the landing pad.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Drop it. Which that's, it's also easy to spot him, but you have to like, if you aren't used to, you know, everyone's yeah. Their,
Starting point is 00:34:55 their rhythm and everything. Yeah. But speaking of big lifts, Tyler, you know, I see that we got this here. Trying to find some saved posts on Instagram. Well,
Starting point is 00:35:03 I wanted to discuss, um, we're starting to see the upper limits of mr stone's overhead pressing oh yeah it's getting there it's getting pretty impressive ty got there so i was i guess we'll do this then i was legitimately trying to find a penis wrestling video that i had saved well naturally but i'll have to look that up in a roundabout way uh yeah so i had um i was, I was actually not planning on this at all. It just kind of felt good. But I had gone to lift, to push press 365.
Starting point is 00:35:37 And it went pretty good. I mean, I got it. And then the hard part is like bringing 365 back down to your chest after max effort is like, got it. And then it was part is bringing 365 back down to your chest after max effort. It's like, got it. And then it was like, nope. And I had just spent fucking many thousands of dollars getting beams put in that floor underneath. So that's testing.
Starting point is 00:35:54 For sure. Product testing. But I didn't drop it from overhead necessarily. It wasn't a complete free fall. You kind of. Yeah. But it still shook literally everything you can see the chain from the ceiling swings it knocked wall balls off the shelf the other side of the room
Starting point is 00:36:13 like so we're not totally structurally like you're not going to do that every day no i might not do this ever again but my goal with this was i was i was kind of hoping I could get to 365, mainly because that puts me at basically 10% – that puts me at 90% of a 400-pound jerk. And so I'd like to be able to push jerk 400, 405. Oh, I got it. This was a push press, so it's just knees and locked out. So if I can drive up and then be able to dip back under it like i would in a competition that makes 400 pounds i think probably possible yeah um but not anytime soon also hurt my knee doing that lift and not don't know how or why yeah it's
Starting point is 00:36:56 been it's better now but it was like two days of like limping and being like that was fucking stupid tyler like it looks fast though like it's it went up yeah it went up fast i did actually miss that lift before i hit it though really however i pulled it off that same day like yeah where'd you miss it out for um i think i just was not accustomed to that much weight like did you start to press it or yeah yeah yeah i got up and i got to basically that point where it got difficult and it stopped there. So now how do you feel about guys like that? Because what's like log press records?
Starting point is 00:37:32 We're talking close to 500-ish, aren't we? Yeah, it's over 500 now. So how does that make you feel about that? Like 230 maybe. Here's the deal. This is fucking basically impossible. Like what actual strong people can do overhead? Because I will bet you if i worked on this and the reason i chose to do this now is because i'm heavy again so you know
Starting point is 00:37:50 what i mean so like i'm still heavy and so i'm at about 315 to 320 or so right now and i was like well while i'm still hanging on to this let's fucking take a stab at it because if i get down to 295 that's not fucking happening. There's just no way that that's happening. It's just like a bench pressing. If your weight is not there, you're not going to do it. It goes down right away. You don't just create it out of thin air. What's the name of the big log at the Arnold?
Starting point is 00:38:16 The Austrian oak. Yeah, what's that thing weigh? I think four something. Four something. Not much over four. And the fact that those guys do their clean, rep it out, and are almost strict pressing it too is just mind-blowing. So according to this, this was before the Arnold last year.
Starting point is 00:38:32 It was 465 pounds is what Shaw had done, but still it was the world record. 228 of Z. That's not the record anymore. That got beat by just a little bit. It's like 230-something now. I just saw a post about it's 228 so 502 is that and it's actually i think 231 now which is 510 so it's like that's so to me that is fucking not possible look at z do that because he has so much in the tank doesn't't he? Well, all of them do.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Do you remember? And they all strict press. Well, that's the crazy thing. They're allowed to do that. Eddie Hall just goes like this. Eddie Hall's axle was 475 pounds, and the only fight was for him to get it to his chest. He slow rolled it up his belly.
Starting point is 00:39:22 When they press, it looks to me like there's a crane above them. Just lifting. They're holding on. Yeah, and it's just rolled it up his belly. When they press, it looks to me like there's a crane above them. Just lifting. Yeah, and it's just lifting it up. That's honestly. So this is 500. Yeah. I mean, that didn't look super easy. Yeah, I wouldn't describe it as easy, but like if he did more,
Starting point is 00:39:41 that wouldn't surprise me. And it's also about as strict of a press as you can get totally totally strict i think that's what's crazy so when eddie hall's uh eddie hall's log or axle where he broke the record i wonder if that's on here we're doing 216 i bet just youtube for the audio people it definitely looked like i thought watching him he could have done a lot more. 476 pounds. Eddie Hall didn't even fucking try this lift.
Starting point is 00:40:09 This wasn't even like, and I think we've actually gone over this on the, if he has chalk on his chest though, is that cheating? Yes. Yeah. The steroids are fine. That seems like it's gotta be one of the more uncomfortable positioning.
Starting point is 00:40:24 So all he does clean upings but he rolls it and just presses it like he's bench pressing 300 pounds like yeah but one on axle for those guys it really must be the clean that's the limiting factor because i think that clean looked not fun for him but the press looked like yeah whatever keep it going i believe that eddie hall is could like the problem is they're like it's like their generation didn't quite healthy they him and zadrunas have never had to go head-to-head on pressing right that much enough to push each other you got to get the right competition and the right like yeah and if they had gone head-to-head it fucking worlds both
Starting point is 00:41:02 healthy for the last five, six years. It'd be a different story, but like, there's nobody to push them. So like Eddie Hall lifted that, like Eddie Hall didn't need to lift anymore. Yeah. The point is,
Starting point is 00:41:12 okay, you can lift more and now you're taking your, you're just ruining your chances of winning lots of money. Yeah. So exactly. But if, if they had somebody to push that, I think that would be crazy.
Starting point is 00:41:20 But I've seen, I've heard like all this, all these like other, I don't know there's there's all sorts of like ways to help your overhead press and all of them sound to me like they're everybody's just guessing at ways like what it is is some people are like yeah you got to eat more some it's like oh it's really technique the others a lot of them were like it's definitely not much technique like you need to just do some of them are like, it's definitely not much technique. Like you need to just do, some of them are like, you got to do that lift more.
Starting point is 00:41:46 I hear a lot of people say you need to high rep, train more. Others say it's simply hypertrophy. You need to get those muscles big. And then you're going to have your leverages improve so much. The others say it's all accessory work. Like you can train heavy with that specific lift very rarely and just build up your overhead work with single arm stuff and accessories and pulls and rows and all these other things.
Starting point is 00:42:09 And it sounds to me like if I had to make a list of the 75 possibilities that every single one of those is represented in a blog, like there's no, like, this is how you do it. Right. Um, the other one that goes back to is like, if you want to be able to press a lot, you just have to press a lot. And I don't know i like i said i never got good at pressing because i was like worked i didn't earn anything there it was just like i've just kind of been good at it and that's not like for real like it's not it's not anything where it's like i spent countless hours pressing
Starting point is 00:42:40 you know like when i came into crossfit fat like i could push like i could strict press probably like 250 right totally detrained right and i could push press you know i could push press 290 yeah like day like within a couple of months all right so that's not like it's not like good for you tyler you worked really hard for yeah fuck it no it's like it's like He worked really hard for this. Fuck it. It's like congratulating me on my tallness. And what people have to realize with their own training is like, and it's just like some people are really good at squatting
Starting point is 00:43:16 or some people are really good at deadlifting or some people are really good at benching. Like you can't be like, you know what? I'm not that good at overhead pressing. I can't look at that video and be like, damn it. I am just gonna, I am going to do X, Y, and Z for the next year. And I'm going to be able to do that because that's actually probably not true. Like I might be able to, you just have, the goal has to be to get a little better than
Starting point is 00:43:38 what you can do right now. Not to be like, I'm going to do 300 more pounds than what I can do right now. Part of it, I think too, is that in that I haven't pressed all that much either, is that I've just gotten a little stronger generally. And I think that goes a long way for something like that. Is your back strong? Are your legs strong? Can you use your hips?
Starting point is 00:43:58 You know what I mean? With a push lift like that, that being stronger is probably better than just training to press yeah i think so too i i don't press very often but i know when my overhead pressing was at my strongest is when my bench press was at its strongest when i was training bench really heavy and then i could just you're you're a really really good bencher well at one point like yeah we're talking oh it used to be actually i benched uh 100 pounds for a couple sets of 10 this week so yeah i'm not a bet you could say i'm a pretty really good brand i um does uh what what at your peak there would you had you tested your overhead press in that
Starting point is 00:44:36 same time not really like maybe ballpark what the relationship would be um like when i you know i did like a competition 440 bench and i would train no big deal but that's 200 kilos 200 guys are wondering and at that point the you know i was never maxing out overhead whatsoever but i would do like three sets of five and i could do that like strict with 225 okay and that was and i just never really did any more than that and i wasn't like really trying to yeah trying to drive that right but you know i could do that and so i don't really know i don't really have a good point of reference but that felt when i was the strongest on bench is when overhead felt the easiest or the best or you know i'm also thinking for me it's like well if i can hit that i could probably like i'd need to probably take a another like six or eight weeks and and more not so much for getting
Starting point is 00:45:30 stronger but just practice up before i take a stab at bench in 405 because that sounds like yeah that's got to put me it's got to be pretty close and um but and just like anything uh to get used to the feeling of having that walking out 365 here, putting 500 pounds on your back, or putting 400 pounds in front of you like this, that all takes a little bit of... That newness has to go away before it becomes doable. Yeah. Because I imagine putting 365 right here, or right here for that matter, is like, ugh. That's not comfortable. I got there and I was like, you didn't fucking dig this through tyler like what what were you
Starting point is 00:46:10 gonna do if you like if you weren't gonna hit this lift it was gonna come back down you were gonna catch it but if you got this lift then no thought into this at all and actually the funny thing about that was right then at that exact moment like as I was walking it out, my wife and kid walk into the gym. So there's nobody there. So then they walk in right as I'm trying to press it. And I'm screaming and yelling. And Megan said she came in. She's like, I didn't even look.
Starting point is 00:46:36 I just couldn't even look. Was your kid impressed? No, he doesn't care about literally anything that I do at all. What can I do to gain your admiration and respect? I've been trying to do this for you my whole life. I've been trying to do this for you, bud. I don't care about that. I think the music you listen to when you take me to school sucks.
Starting point is 00:46:54 I don't like the questions you ask me. It's like the Dr. Evil-Scotty relationship. Yes. Yeah, except I fuck with him a lot. Yeah, it goes nowhere. Tommy, what about your big news? Is that podcast-worthy news? Oh, sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Or is that keeping it off the podcast? Ladies, brace yourself. This is going to be a little bit disappointing or possibly a lot disappointing. You might want to sit down right now. Tommy has become the least available underscore D. That's one way to put it. The last Masonomics podcast host is going off the market.
Starting point is 00:47:31 The last that was. That's right. Now we're officially a bunch of unfuckable white dudes. Like we weren't already. Yeah, I got engaged today. How many hours ago? What time is it right now? 6.41.
Starting point is 00:47:48 6.41. Actually, about 7 on the dot. When I saw the news on social media, I was like, is this going to affect our podcasting today? Like, are we still podcasting today? Well, that's actually the podcast message went out kind of halfway through my plan. And I'm like, oh, my God. Okay, yep, went out um kind of halfway through my plan and i'm like oh my god okay yep these guys are kind of these guys you guys might mess this up i really need to push the time out so uh tyler wanted an early uh podcast and want is not a matter of need though
Starting point is 00:48:17 yeah and you know due to my uh due to my engagement, or you could say future engagement, etching his life into stone. Yeah, that had to get pushed out. But it all worked out perfectly after, you know, after getting worked up about it. And it was one of those things just like anything in life. And maybe you guys were different, but you get nervous for it. Any big life decision. I get I get nervous. I like to think and overthink things. And then I start to realize, you know what? I don't know where a single one of my friends got engaged, how they got engaged, what that was like. Then you realize, yeah, this doesn't matter to anyone but me and her. Yeah, it really doesn't.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Nobody cares. That's what's funny is that nobody cares. Even if there was a picture and it was on a fucking mountaintop, nobody gives a fuck. It's like, oh, congratulations. A picture of you guys in the car with her holding the ring up or something is still going to get just as much traction. And then I've heard
Starting point is 00:49:13 multiple stories saying, oh yeah, we got engaged in the living room. We got engaged in so-and-so's room. Yeah, a couple of friends of mine, they got engaged. They were drinking at their house and then they went to the kitchen to get a shot. Like, well, what do you think? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:30 There you go. Well, congratulations, Tommy and Leah. That's tremendous. Sorry, other ladies other than Leah. Yeah, that's really the apology needs to be. Or maybe all the guys out there. I don't know. Sorry. I don't know what your DMs look like. Sorry, gay guys. I don't want to be. Or maybe all the guys out there. I don't know. Sorry. I don't know what your DMs
Starting point is 00:49:46 look like. Sorry gay guys. You don't want to know. Yeah, that's pretty funny. So is she going to change it to underscore D, her last name to underscore D on the Instagram? You know, that is the great debate. We'll have to figure it out. That's the real question.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Social media handles are at the top of the wedding planning. That should the real question. Social media handles are at the top of the wedding planning. That should have been addressed before even setting a date. Well, a date hasn't been set. So technically, yeah, it is still above there. Will you have a wedding party then? It's going to be a dry wedding. I've already had several people comment, which I think is funny.
Starting point is 00:50:30 I've had several people comment on how excited they are for the wedding party already well like hold on guys like and the day is about something else but um yeah i one comment was the party's gonna be friggin lit so i i hope so yeah when i heard i was excited about the party because i don't have very many like pete there's very very few weddings of people i know left than i would ever want to go to yeah so i'm like hey this is one i actually like this is one that i actually want to go to yeah you know like i'm bad too because i was just just talking to Leah like a week or two ago at the gym. And I was, because you guys were going to another wedding, which was like a week after another wedding. Yeah, I did four in five weeks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:15 So it was like all this. And I was like, I said, Leah, you don't like those people that much, do you? I was like, I don't go to my cousin's wedding. Like, none. If a cousin gets cousin gets it's like i'm sorry i'm just not going if a friend gets married if i'm not in it i mean i might make it to the food and the drinks and that's gonna depend on the other people you know yeah because if i go there and it's a bunch of other people and drinks consist of peace you know but so so then she had
Starting point is 00:51:42 mentioned like what you're not gonna come to our wedding and i was like oh fuck that's right you guys still have life in front of you yeah but i'm with tanner like i blow off wedding invitations all the time and i'm the worst about it because i don't even rsvp no i just get it and i hang it on my fridge and go maybe but that's a no as soon as it's up there because i'll never revisit it again so yeah, yeah, we are looking forward to that. We'll attend your wedding. Awesome. I was very worried about that. That was the next step after I asked for it.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Obviously, Tanner and I are both willing to be the officiant to actually marry you. My next biggest concern is will Tyler and Tanner be able to make it because this could really scar me. We'll read you guys your vows and everything. My parents were worried. My extended family was worried. But I couldn't let everyone know. Do you think Tyler Tanner is going to show up? Will that affect the podcast recording that weekend at all?
Starting point is 00:52:35 You never know. We're going to have to have one in the tank for that one. Probably. That would be the best bet. I'd do a shit. Yeah. That would be the best bet. Listen, I'm going to give you a little piece of advice from a man who has been married
Starting point is 00:52:46 and attended lots of weddings. Friday wedding. I went to one of my first ones ever two or three weeks ago. It was a little weird. It's a little weird. If it's local, it's good. You don't have to travel for it. It's a problem.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Local, it was great. It was like I just go about your day. You get to take an afternoon off of work if you want to. Saturday weddings consume weekends. They do. It's a bit of a problem. Friday wedding. Maybe we want to consume a weekend here.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Listen, as your wedding planner, no, Tommy. We'll make all these decisions for you. Okay, that's good. Where are you at with a DJ? We've got some stuff here. We've got equipment here. We've got some pretty hot playlists left over from the Strongman showdown. I've never seen people do karaoke
Starting point is 00:53:27 at a wedding, so maybe we should start that. I like that. Could we just play old Masonomics podcast episodes? We'll put together a clip highlight. I think everyone would also love that. To Dan.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Dan Bell breathing into the microphone. I don't know what would be more romantic for a father-daughter dance love that. To Dan Bell breathing into the microphone. I don't know what would be more romantic for a father-daughter dance than that. What makes someone feel safer. Oh, man. I cannot figure out how to do this, though. Okay, what about finding your messages on here? Messages? On the web browser.
Starting point is 00:54:03 That's what's tricky is this is the web browser, so I can't find any of my messages. Instagram doesn't really like you to use Instagram. No, they certainly don't. For everyone that's listening, Tyler's playing with Instagram now. We're not talking about wedding stuff.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Yeah, sorry. Well, I was going to close out on this wonderful video that I just can't figure out how to do it. We'll see if this shows up. But just because it was funny and I'm going to forget about it. This is about – we'll see. I'll pull it up. And did any of this show up when we had it on the phone?
Starting point is 00:54:38 Okay. So I will do it this way. And you guys are just going to have to see it on my phone, okay? This is a man who won a professional wrestling match with his penis. Been there. I mean, we all know that little ditty. All right. So the guy goes and he grabs his penis, the competitor, and the guy's shaking his head like, nope,
Starting point is 00:55:05 and the penis fights back. And he's still trying to hang on, and he fights back again. He's flexing. And he ends up winning the match. Is that in a movie? No, that's like whatever wrestling federation that is is something i want to participate in yeah they go to some some extra lengths with imagination that's
Starting point is 00:55:32 what i always say there's not enough of those like uh sideshow wrestling federations no there's so there's here here's here's one more too so i don't know if this guy's gimmick is that he has some sort of like special skill special like fucking telepathy skills but uh this is the bit where it's like uh it's like wrestling is fake okay explain this and the guy doesn't lay a hand on the guy like choke slams him from the distance star wars yeah yeah which i think is a great look for professional yeah rock bottom thing it doesn't matter how strong and tall you are you have this that picture of uh bill clinton ronald reagan and george bush enjoying a beer in the uh yeah lift shirt i had saw someone asked why uh president
Starting point is 00:56:18 former president obama didn't get used and the only reason was uh i thought that that might be a photoshop slash racist looking issue if you put a black face on a white person's body it's it's dumb to put a black guy's face on a white person's body anytime and isn't that isn't that racist if you i would think probably and i'd be like hey if you put it on my body i'd be like hey tanner yeah like can you not do that i don't know the ins and outs of what's right or wrong with that. But I can see, like, yeah, if we're going to start just. Like, Tyler's tall. Maybe we should put, I don't know, Kevin Garnett's face on his.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Doesn't quite. If we did that with three black guys, it would look, like, really racist. Oh, yeah. I'm pretty sure. Or even if you had three black people and you Photoshopped three white faces on them them it's like it doesn't make any sense what about that one was that one in poor taste the hindenburg one i you guys need to be watching our instagram feed but the the hindenburg one is one of my personal favorites and a few people commented too soon but i think those were all jokes i hope so yeah because yeah you gotta assume we gotta get
Starting point is 00:57:25 people to bend for the but how not far like how recent can you go where it is too soon like week of a lot of times can be too soon honestly i feel like the first person to make the joke is maybe this okay in my opinion but see like uh there's probably people that have made say 9-11 jokes and i wouldn't do a picture of us in front of like... Yeah, see, I feel like Hindenburg's okay because we're talking Nazis. Yeah, and that's what I thought too. I don't see a lot of people... Well, it is becoming more of a thing now because you're starting to get some crazy people out there calling for whatever the whole Nazi thing is.
Starting point is 00:58:03 The North Korea one. The North Korea one. And that's okay, too, because everyone hates North Korea. Yeah, everyone hates dictators. We don't want that. Yeah, I do feel like... So that big, fat comedian that Ralphie May died this week, and maybe two days after that happened, Southern comedian Ari Shaffir said something on Instagram to someone else.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Or no, God, I have to find it now because it's funny. Anyway, these guys have like a fat shaming joke going back and forth between them. So he immediately posts this picture of, I wonder if he pulled it. I wonder if he did. It was like, oh, he he pulled it. I wonder if he did. It was like... Oh, he did pull it.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Oh, yeah, maybe this is it. Sad to hear about the passing of Ralphie May. His heart was bigger than his stomach. Honestly, I've been more intrigued by comics who were kind of... who were kind of... who were more kind than hilarious offstage, and Ralphie was that.
Starting point is 00:59:01 A total sweetheart. Every time I saw him, big hug, big man. R.I.P. Ralphie. Except that's not a, and Ralphie was that. A total sweetheart. Every time I saw him, big hug, big man. R.I.P. Ralphie. Except that's not a picture of Ralphie Mae. That is a picture of Burt Kreischer, who Tom Segura just makes fun of for being fat all the time. This is like the day Ralphie Mae died.
Starting point is 00:59:17 It's like, that's how you do it. Yeah, and I think every comedian would be 1,000% on board with that. I am totally okay with that. I think that comedian would be 1,000% on board with that. I'm totally okay with that. I think that's pretty goddamn funny. Is there anything else we needed to pimp today, guys? We're at about the end of our time. We don't have anything special. The only thing left to pimp would be just our prostitutes.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Yeah, that's true. Yeah, we like to keep that off the air. Well, I think that'll do it for us today guys um let me what's the rundown here go to massonomics.com there you're going to find all of our podcast archive also the store is there that's where the this shirt not that hat but hats that are kind of like those logos on that sweatshirt yeah not this one Not that sweatshirt. Yeah, not this one either. No, not this one. You know, cool stuff is for sale there. Probably those at the bottle though, right?
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Starting point is 01:01:12 like i don't want more members at my gym like i want like really just enough to pay the bills and not a single more right um otherwise no people just all the all just spam stuff just the craziest of fitness related spam stuff maybe some people need to send some love that way yeah yeah so anyway if you want to send us money start there yeah um also uh oh what do we got here this is a terrible another terrible one uh just something terrible a pr guy that works for the company Hammer Strength you know you've used the Hammer Strength I'm reaching out to see how I might be able to pitch you a couple of
Starting point is 01:01:51 news stories from the company pertaining to the strength and conditioning community you feed content to regularly which that alone you're like well you use all the right words we do pitch some things, and then it just goes into them wanting us to, like,
Starting point is 01:02:10 pay for their hammer strength clinics that they host around North America and, like, host one at our gym. And I'm like, I don't have any hammer strength equipment. We're more of a Nautilus type gym anyways. And a lot of that sort of thing. Yeah. That's it though.
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