Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast - Ep 490 - The Truth About Watergate (fat. Nick Bryant)

Episode Date: April 17, 2024

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Yes, yo, what's up brother? What's going on man? Chillin man hanging out I'm in a very I'm in a very light mood. Well, it's read every Thomas Merton before I have read Thomas written I finished his book seven seven seven on beautiful. What's it about? Oh, it's about this guy becomes a Trappist monk and how his whole journey, like basically kind of draft dodge, honestly. He was facing World War II and he was like, maybe I will become a monk. I'm actually a monk. And he's pretty clear about it.

He was like, I was just going to check it out and they'll like, they'll give you one more month to get your affairs in order. And he's like, yeah, monk it is. And his brother went and actually died as a pilot. And he wrote a very beautiful poem for his brother at the end of the book. Oh, there's about his like brother's dead body. That's just charred up in the middle of some field. Jesus, pretty great. But it's a beautiful book, though. Yeah. Very nice. He embraced Eastern philosophy and Buddhism, and he was like the first major religious heavyweight in the West to do that.

So that is his writings are actually still pretty popular. Yeah. So either way, that's why I'm just I'm in a very light mood. I finished it last night. Thomas Burton has made you boy. It has. He's lifted me above this absolute terrible society that we're all trapped. Well, I'm sure our discussion will bring you back down to Earth.

Yeah, put you in the seventh circle of Dante's inferno? Yes, you did. You did a deep dive on on the diddler himself. P Diddy, yes. You know, it's kind of interesting. I like to stick to facts. And I've been watching people talk about P Diddy and

some guy says this and some there's just been this rabid speculation. And then I think I've even seen the Illuminati that he's part of the Illuminati or something like that. It's Jay-Z. And yes. And so I decided to take a deep dive into P. Diddy. I got his lawsuits, the five lawsuits that were pending against him. I read them and two of those lawsuits were initiated by women who were minors at the time. I mean, he was really into roofing young girls and molesting them.

And one of the girls that he roofied, he took video of him doing a Bill Cosby honor and and then showed it to a bunch of his friends after. And so he he's kind of a nasty piece of work. But all his homes were equipped with hidden cameras. Yeah. Remind you of anyone? Yeah, really. So people are comparing him to Epstein.

Now it's going to be interesting because. I believe that he's going to take the fall for a lot. I think he's going to. Yeah, I think he's going to take the fall for a lot of people because there are I mean, he was very. He was very unlike Diddy, though. He let Shine go to. True. Well, actually, that was like almost like a real trial.

I think this one's going to be very carefully choreographed and some other like maybe his sons may go down. I mean, his sons seem to be rapists, too. It's kind of interesting. But were the two interconnect, it's kind of which is what I found out is Damien Williams is the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, and he was the one that covered up the Epstein the Epstein trial.

He only that his district oversaw that investigation, and they only called four witnesses. And those victims had only been molested by Epstein and Maxwell. He didn't call or they didn't call any witnesses that were molested by any of the power brokers that Epstein was pandering to. Is this the original trial where they sealed it or his most recent one? No, the last one. Actually, Maxwell's trial.

He was going to prosecute Epstein, too. But Epstein, his death kind of precluded that. But yes, that trial was totally choreographed and it was a total fix. I mean, Maxwell should have been indicted on multiple counts of child trafficking. And the procurers should have been. They could have done a RICO with it where you get the procures, you indict them on 10 counts of child trafficking. They're looking at a thousand years and then they roll over

on the big fish. And that did not happen in that case at all. It was they kept it very tight and only Maxwell was the one that went down. Now, that guy is the guy and because it's kind of strange that he did these homes in L.A. and Miami were. Were the ones that were searched, but that search weren't emanated from the southern district of New York, Damian Williams. So he's taking the helm of the police case.

Yes. And so that's why I know that the fix is in with P. Diddy. But this is also interesting. Damien Williams went to Yale Law School on a grant from the Soros's. Where it gets a little interesting is Peter Soros, their kid, is in Epstein's black book and he's circled twice. Now, being circled incriminates you because the house manager

who ripped off the black book circled all the people that were he thought were in cahoots with Epstein and Peter Soros is circled twice. So that's kind of a conflict of interest. But I don't think that that really matters. So why are the penalties so low? She got 20 years, right? For trafficking kids. Yeah, because if you look up there, you're about guys must

and kids, they get out a lot of times like the Nick. You see the Nickelodeon thing? Yeah. Well, they would get out after like, yeah, pickle boy. They would do. How is the law set up? Boy, dude, my man pickle boy. Bruce him, dude.

Put him under the jail. He's back. How is it that the penalties are only like six years for that versus like, like you would think. Like we were watching, we watched Zodiac last night. The guy, the alleged Zodiac killer. Yeah. Lee Allen or whatever.

Yeah. He got, in the middle of being the Zodiac, allegedly. Yeah. He got arrested working at a school for molesting children. He went to jail for like three years. You wise the penalty solo for that. Got out, went right back to writing zodiac letters and killing people. Anyway, sure. Yeah, you get like 10 minutes.

That's what I'm saying. Why is I have no idea why the law set up that way. You would think I would say like, who would you rather live next to? And that should be the law. How long you go to jail for pedophiles. 100 years. Well, I mean, it's not for it's a it's a 15 to life sentence. law and how long you go to jail for pedophiles, 100 years. I mean, it's not for it's a it's a 15 to life sentence.

So. I'm sure that if you're living in a trailer park and you molest your old that they'll put you away for life. But it's a little different with the people that run our world, I guess. What's the life sentence to live with your mom? I think that's the life sentence. Life sentence. Your mother's basement for the rest of your life. Yeah. You got to go home. Yeah. I would I would off myself before that happened. You just get grounded, I guess, of your pedophile.

But that's crazy. Maxwell was like she was famous for it. You think she would they make an example out of her for a long time. You're saying she's in a dormitory now. She's in a dormitory. And the dormitories are generally for people that have done time and been exemplary prisoners and are about to get out. But she's right in a dormitory now. So crazy.

She got how many years? She got 20 years. Do you think how many of those do you think she's serving? Well, in the Fed system, I mean, not that this is going to really count. And the Fed system, you've got to do 85% of your time. So she should end up doing like 27 years or 70 years. Yeah. So but I don't know if that's going to happen. I mean, she kept her mall shut and she's got a lot of money that's waiting for.

And I think that that was kind of the deal. This is just my opinion. My surmise is. Yeah. They sat Maxwell down. I said, Galeen, you know, you've done some really good stuff for us. You've blackmail enabled us to blackmail a lot of people. But, you know, if you keep your mall shut, you won't end up like Jeffrey Epstein.

I mean, you're going to have to do some time. Yeah. But then you're going to have lots of money when you get out. Yeah. Maybe she'll have her own like Target line. Traveling home. Target by Jolene Max. I was seeing I don't know if Target would stoop that. Maybe Walmart should have a Walmart line. I'm a Minnesotan and Target began in Minnesota.

So I have kind of my special affinity. Although, you know, it's kind of strange is I think Walmart and Target are kind of a jump ball. But as far as like quality and service and things like that, but people in New York actually have Target bags. I've never. I mean, it's almost chic to have like a Target bag. I've never ever seen a Walmart bag because someone using a

Walmart bag in New York. Yeah, it's yeah, they'll walk around. Usually they're homeless. Yeah, you got a Walmart bag. I think that is not. That's not a Louis Vuitton purse by any means. Well, actually, you know, I saw a homeless guy in a couple of weeks ago.

He had like eight target bags. So he was doing well. Homeless chic. Yeah. Well, so so the diddy thing, you think did he's got. I wonder, I don't think Diddy thinks he's going to go down. Where do you get that? I just think about it because it's like, because they were saying like, well, they were like, he could just flee the country. But I was like, I don't think he thinks he's going to get. Somebody just told me that. They're like, Matt said he doesn't think he's going there. I was like, is Matt fucking talking to him?

No, I'm just saying, because otherwise you think he would flee. But if he's, I don't know, I think he is. I think the boys got him. He invented the remix, dude. You think he's he's not going down. Now, that's a valid point. Because otherwise he has the means to he's a flight risk. He could take off.

I would think that there's eye in the sky on P. Diddy. I think it's like, OK, that makes sense. The people that raided his house are. Yeah, true. Pretty powerful. I would think that there's a eye in the sky on Pete idiot. I think it's like, okay, that makes sense. I think the people that raided his house are. Yeah, true. Pretty powerful. True. I think they got a good location on that guy.

Yeah. We know you got blackmail stuff. That's what I heard. I heard they raided the house to get the. The blackmail material. Yeah. I mean, the same thing happened with Epstein. Where they drilled it safe

and they pulled out hundreds of DVDs. What? And I've done freedom of information requests And I didn't of course want the DVDs because who knows you know What licentious nefarious things are filled with but I did ask for reports on the DVD I'm gonna have a tough time getting pornhub down here horn up down here. I need the FC DVDs. Get the portable DVD player going in the bathroom. Well, if I ever get the DVDs, I'll toss me the good ones.

Toss me the good ones. So you scrub the bad stuff and get rid of that. So it's kind of funny when Epstein died, the Fed said the case was closed. Yeah. So then I put in a FOIA for the reports and then they said the case is closed. Yeah. So then I put in a FOIA for the reports and then they said the case is ongoing. Cool. Oh, really? And then I did it again, I don't know, about three months ago. And then again, they said the case is ongoing.

I mean, the guy's in the ground and running, but the case is ongoing. So trying to see that Stephen Hawking. So I'm trying to see. I want to see Stephen Hawking. That would have been tough. Reverse forward, reverse forward. Hawkins. I'm trying to see. I was talking to the fucking. That would have been tough. I think. Reversed forward. Reversed forward.

Back that thing up. Maybe. Back it up, Terry. Hawkins might know some stuff about physics that we don't have a clue about. True. True. You never know. Sexually, he could get a little wormhole going.

Yeah, that's kind of crazy. So he got. So Diddy, I know who was implicated in did he's was Cuba Gooding Jr. got hit pretty hard. Everyone thinks Meek Mill is involved because he was like, you know, they named basically his circumstances. But what was the main what was like the worst one? Because I knew he had the case against Cassie

that you're saying he had the underage people. Then there was Little Rod, Little Rod. That was the most fascinating one. That, there was Little Rod. Little Rod. That was the most fascinating one. That was the last one. And Little Rod, I mean, it's kind of interesting because they've done three addendums. His attorneys have done three addendums to his initial statement. And each one is getting more salacious.

And nefarious because the first one was pretty bad. That was the first ride with Cuba Gooding. What's that? Yes. Either one that Cuba got Cuba got it. More like Cuba batting. Sure. It's kind of interesting on that link that I sent you. It's so I got the link that I sent you. It was Diddy and his kid, Justin took a rapper.

We only know the guy's name is G and took him into the bathroom and then multiple shots rang out. Yeah, the door opened and G was just happened to be bleeding from his abdomen. And Diddy told Jones, you know, don't say I had anything to do with this and you know, I got to leave and take off. And then Jones was taken out. It was at the studio, Jones taken out of the studio and the cops were called. And. I've got a news article

that says that Jones or that she was shot outside the studio, but Jones took pictures of the bathroom, the blood in the bathroom. So there's there's a bunch of blood in the bathroom. Yeah. So I think that shooting people that's probably against a lot to it's hard. It's yeah, he's well, that Diddy's head of security, Fahim Mohammed, he he was head of security for Michael Jackson. So there's a dude that knows how to keep secrets.

And according to Jones, he's a fixer. He's got he's really tied into the LAPD. And what's really interesting with that is, you know, Michael Jackson was getting drugs, prescription drugs from Oliver and he was using pseudonyms like Josephine Baker and I think Jack London was one of them. But then Fahim Williams or Fahim Mohammed's name is right there as far as one of the people that was providing Jackson with drugs. And nothing happened to Mohammed. The doctor had some problems that was describing them. But nothing happened to him, Mohammed.

So and Jones maintains that he is like a superlative adept fixer, that he's got connections in the LAPD that can make. He said that can make either problems or people go away. Damn. Damn. I think Diddy got too pumped on Empire. I think that might have been what happened. I might have watched Empire. Good show freaked out shoot a guy in the stomach in front of your son. This is our empire.

Well, the sun is busted. I heard the sun is like for sure getting busted on one of the last lawsuit is against the sun. Yeah. And it was by he did he rented a yacht and some woman said that she had been molested that the woman did he did. Did he's implicated because the woman said that did he set up a environment where these workers were going to get molested? And this woman put him on a yacht. Yeah, put him on a yacht. There's no way to go.

Yeah. It's your location. Damn. Well, did he's going down here at first? I didn't know. I didn't know. I was like, maybe they don't have enough solid stuff on them. So there's a lot of it is like a lot of hearsay, but yeah, it seems like they're going to he's going to go to jail. He's going to go there. I think he's going to kill his jail. He's going to go there. I think he's going to kill causes out.

But kills, did he? Damn. Well, he's going to get killed. Yeah, probably, right? If he does, I don't know. They're going to probably give him the glane Maxwell talk. Well, you know, did some bad things and it all depends upon who he's compromising people for, because there's enough information that his homes are had hidden cameras that I actually believe that his homes had hidden cameras.

So I just don't think that he was blackmailing people for himself. Yeah. Now, what's really interesting is the guy that he started bad boy records with is Clive Davis. Mm hmm. And Clive Davis has an interesting criminal history. He was charged with not paying his taxes in 71, 72 and 73. He was head of CBS Records and he was embusted. He was busted embezzling ninety four thousand dollars from CBS records.

And the guy that he was using was a Genovese crime family name, guy named Pesquale Falcone and how they intersected with this kind of interesting how they intersect with Davis's Falcone was smuggling twenty 22 pounds of heroin into the United States. And then they started looking at Falcone and then they saw that he was doing these illegalities with Clive Davis. And then he also shelled out a quarter of a million dollars

for payola that's giving kickbacks to radio stations which is totally illegal. But he did all these things. Clive Davis, he did all these things and he walked. The dude never spent a day in jail. Oh, then he teamed up with the diddler. That makes sense. And then he came out with the diddler.

The feds, the feds. Yeah, that was the connection. We need you. We need the diddler. Damn. So you've got kind of, it's an interesting alchemy right now with P. Diddy. You've got his head of security, who is a fixer, who knows how to keep secrets about child abuse. You've got Clive Davis, who has been busted on

innumerable things and felonies and not spent a day in jail. And then you've got a U.S. attorney that likes to cover up child abuse. So it's it's a pretty interesting alchemy to see how those things all turn out. What do you think about Jay-Z? Nothing on him yet at all. You know, there's a lot of innuendo about this person or that person like Diddy says when he was sued by his girlfriend Cassandra Cassie Ventura. According to Jones he says well I've got

enough leverage on Bishop TD Jakes to get him to go to bat for me and say I'm a good guy and nice guy. Now, Bishop T.D. Jakes, he's got a real estate empire. I mean, he's got he's a mega he's got a mega church in Dallas, but he's he's got like a real estate empire. And now one person on Twitter said that he's gay. So then the next thing everybody in the news. Pretty good. Yeah, he's got these black then the next thing everybody in the news. That's pretty good.

Yeah, and he's blackmailing GD Jakes because he likes little boys or whatever. One guy calling you gay on Twitter. That might be the straightest guy on Earth. And the person said, well, it's right there on Twitter. So now here is a guy that's worth millions of dollars. And he just did a deal with Wells Fargo that could be up to a billion dollars in housing.

So and he's a preacher, which his being a media mogul and also a real estate baron, it seems a little at odds with preaching. I mean, not not when you get to the evangelical side and you're on television, I guess not. Yeah. And I get church and yeah. Mega churches are like basically businesses and stuff where you can, you know, you just get a guy like, you know, fund me. I'm going to start 10 more of these things.

I got to meet Jim and Tammy Banker once. Not really the highlight of my life, but but it was interesting. A friend of mine was He was an herbal life distributor and the feds busted him what for what? dispensing herbal life marijuana I used to call it herbal life But that reference is kind of lost. He's dispensed herbal.

There there was actually some I get really good on that. I benefited financially. There was actually something called herbal life. And but you guys are too young to know about that. When you get old and crusty like me, there's a lot of references. I remember herbal life.ife, there was this couple that was standing in the back of the church and they had pins that said lose weight now, ask me how.

And they would stand in the back of the church. Catholic Church? Get them out of there, they're selling their wares. I know, I was, they had tables. You gotta flip the tables. But it was this couple and the guy was like a skinny guy with a mustache and a lady with 80s hair and they were just standing in the back

and they looked great, I'll be honest. They're looking pretty slender. Yeah. So I'm pretty Instagram. You had to just go stand in public and go lose. I know secrets. There's secret drugs you can take. Everything will be better. It was just a veteran probably. Try crystal meth. Yeah.

In our whole life together, you will lose weight. So I was visiting a buddy of mine in the federal prison in Rochester, Minnesota, which is kind of like a club fed. A lot of mafia guys end up there. And. And. When you visit someone, at least in this prison, you're in, they put you in a little group and then they escort you across this courtyard. And and I was in the same group as Tammy Fay.

And and she looked like she does when she's live. She looks like maybe an Avon train wreck or something like that. I mean, she's she's definitely putting on her make up with a trowel. Yeah. And and, you know, I wondered why Jim Baker got he was originally like 100 years or something. I mean, it got it was appealed and got knocked down and she got nothing.

But when I met them both, so I was talking to my buddy and and what they did, what they were like a mega. What do they do? Well, they had a mega church and they got arrested. Well, he got arrested for embezzling and all that. And he was building like a born again. They there we go. There's a secretary from the Drew Carey. She really is.

Exactly. That's crazy. Cleveland Rocks. So I So I was using my buddy and. And then she came and sat next to Jim and I was sitting next to my buddy and. And he had this sinister grin on his face. I mean, there was something kind of malignant about him. And what I felt about Tammy was

if you want to go to the bathroom, you had to go up to like this desk and they'd give you a key and then and I watched her go up to this desk. And the only thing I could think of and I'm not trying to be disparaging here, but the only thing I could think of, and I'm not trying to be disparaging here. Sure. Sure. But the only thing I could think of is she's really a fucked up person. I mean, that's really what I felt.

I mean, and he is sinister. And now he's got his own evangelical show again. We got out and now it's back to the same thing. So what was her deal, though? Was she there just to visit him? To visit him? Yeah. And she ultimately. Herbal life.

Just dumped out some herbal. Did they get conjugal? Did he get conjugal in there? I mean, he was smiling. Conjugal has gotten. I don't think there's any more conjugal left. They don't do that anymore. Not that I'm aware of.

I mean, of course, prisoners have their own conjugal thing. True. But true that of a certain stripe. But well, so Jim Baker's own conjugal thing, but true that of a certain stripe. But well, so Jim Baker's got his own show now. And you would think with all that scandal. And I was also told that Jim. I probably shouldn't say this because it's it is derogatory and defaming.

But I spent I was told that Jim spent a lot of time on his knees when he was in prison Really? Yeah, damn who told you that? some people that were That did time with him damn so Probably I mean his enthusiasm was probably great So now that I know these... You forget to take it out. Come out of this. So now that I know these things right, damn.

Just annoying himself with the chrism, dude. Running around after he gets the facial. That is insane. I mean, again, I know what you're saying. You don't want to implicate yourself in any kind of negative smearing. But as a joke, it's very funny for a mega church pastor to just be just pulling it out of guys. Say your name. Be gone from this man. Oh, Lord. Mega church pastors get into a lot of those problems.

Yeah. Yeah, they're all freaks. Yeah. It's a. And I feel sorry for the people that believe in them. And then ultimately end up giving them tons of money. Yeah. There was an article. It was either Time or Newsweek did an article because Jim Baker would go out with all these prostitutes and then he would have them do stuff. And yeah, you know, and there was one prostitute that said, you know,

I've got two kids and I wouldn't let them near that guy. So here he is preaching to millions of people every Sunday. Really? She was like he was too. I guess he's got some aberrations. Yeah, some requests. Time magazine and or Newsweek, I can't remember which one really didn't delineate on those aberrations, but I think that we can from the anecdote that I've told you about is stay in prison.

I think we can maybe. Yes, true. Yeah, probably. All right. Let's so final thoughts on the diddler. I think he's going to go down. Here's the thing. Did he just didn't have musician friends, but he was plugged into politics, not quite like Epstein. But but yeah, yeah, he was all these. Yeah, true.

And he also had a lot of sports people, too. So going to his. Well, he had regular parties and then he had what he called freak out parties. Yeah. And it's going to be interesting to see. If any any other people are going to go down and the fence can be very persuasive. I mean, they can say, Diddy, you're you made a lot of money. I mean, we can take it all.

Yeah, true. And put you away for a million years. And then or else you can go gently into that good night and you can keep your money in. We want to arrest half your family. Damn. There was I wrote a book called Confessions of a DC Madam and was a guy about a guy who ran a book called Confessions of a DC Madam and was a guy about a guy who ran a gay escort service in Washington, DC. And there was a CIA asset that would use his escorts to frame closeted guys.

It was it was a blackmail operation. And he was now here's the guy. He was a mortician. And so just being a guy fucking a gay prostitute, that'd be like, gotcha. Fuck. We filmed you. That would throw it's so with Henry, he was a mortician, but he was raised in like a very he was raised in like the southern corner

of West Virginia, where people, you know, preach with snakes and things like that. And so Henry moved to D.C. and he'd been closeted this whole time. And then through a weird set of circumstances, he bought an A.S. gay escort service and from a guy that was dying. And Henry is really brilliant as far as a marketer. So what he did is he opened up the yellow pages and he started calling all the escort services, which are generally fly by night operations.

And if the phone was disconnected, he'd call up the telephone companies and he'd say, I'll pay for the arrears. So he ended up with like half the escorts and the DC Gallup true arrears. Oh, yeah. But sex. So his dying friend was like, yo, I'll sell you. I'll give it to fire.

So it was actually stable for someone he met, who was like a gay version of the Chippendales. Well, introduced him to this guy. So. And he just and there was a guy. OK, so with with Henry. Now, here's the guy that was running a gay escort. I mean, all he was doing is running a gay escort service. I mean, he's not gay, too. You say he was gay.

He was closet and then he bought. He's he's he's an innocuous guy. He's a very gentle guy, very quiet, unassuming. I mean, yeah, OK. Yeah. You would never know that if you just met him, you'd never know. Sure. Sure. History yet. So he was indicted on 46 RICO counts. Damn. So he was looking at 395 years in prison.

And this is what the feds said to him. Henry. We've used your escorts to compromise a lot of guys. And, you know, we appreciate that. And we're going to make a deal with you. We can put you away for 295 years with all these Rico indictments. Yeah. Or and that's in gay years or regular guy years. That's like 20 in regular straight. So they said, Henry,

we'll give you a consolation prize. You keep your mouth shut and we'll only put you away for five years. Whoa. So he took the deal. But he was totally sold down down the river by his attorney, who was Greta Van Susteren. I mean, what she did to him was was pretty egregious. What she do. She basically sold him out to the government. Anything that the government wanted to do. Oh, it sucks. She allowed them to do.

And she's a Scientologist. I don't know if you guys want that, but she got Henry to go to like Scientology boot camp and get cleared. He actually got clear once you're once you're cleared, you get a blue cake and then Henry actually got a blue cake. But then he had to go back and get sentenced and Oh, he got cleared before he went to jail. Yeah, he had some time. He got blue caked He had some time to get cleared before he went to prison school

but that's what happened with him is that That he was made that deal and I can see, did he be made that deal? Gotcha, that makes sense, no that makes sense. He's gonna, yeah, the power brokers will. Yeah. I mean, how about people just stop being sexually impious and we wouldn't have these problems. Speak for yourself.

I think in this day and age, that's kind of, Yeah. I don't know if that's possible. Yeah, well, I feel like now they can just grab the web history off people. They can just snag your porn hoops and be like, you know. I'm really glad that I was a wild kid in my youth and I'm really glad that phones, smartphones were around. Yeah, you do. YouTube wasn't around or else.

I don't know if I'd be able to be a journalist respected journalist today. I mean, not that I'm not respected, but somewhat respected on this podcast. That's pretty good. True. Yeah, no, being called the respected journalists being plugged into phone porn from 12 is like pretty wild. Yeah, I've been reading about that.

It severely messes kids up that. Yeah, I would think your garden is young. Yeah, garden is the absolute deviant. But then the thing about Pornhub is they've been busted like nearly 120 times with minors. I mean, you would think that they get shut down after 10 or 20 or 30 years. Putting out vids of minors, basically. Or just like child labor laws, like having like dead entry.

And actually, there's been some girls that were minors that have sued Pornhub. Oh, from their stuff being out. Yeah, that's yeah. Dang. Everyone has to upload their ID, dude. That's what they do in Texas. Now you have to upload your driver's license. Yeah, I read about that. I. Dang. Everyone has to upload their ID, dude. That's what they do in Texas now. You have to upload your driver's license. Yeah, I read about that. I like that.

Not necessarily a bad idea. Obviously probably a good thing, but. Yeah, it's fair. It's dampening my jacks. Yeah. It's put a real damper on my jacks. You just go on and you're immediately reminded of child sex.

Yeah, true. You go, what do they say? I jack off to that. I don't need thumbnails anymore. I jack off to the governor's warning. I go, oh my God, this is bad. There's so much porn behind this. That's innovative. Yeah, I got it. We just have to jack it off to your own license. Fuck you. This is a crazy photo. your own license. Fuck you. Crazy. I'm sure you've got narcissists out there that do that.

I mean, yeah, especially your license photo. That'd be crazy. I think supreme confidence. We need to make the move. We need to discuss the truth about Watergate. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What's going on here?

The truth about Watergate. That's my last book. Everything that you know about Watergate, the vast majority of it is is a lie. So Gump, Forrest Gump didn't break it up. He just he played only a minor role in Watergate. It's interesting. What happened with Watergate and there's been some really great books written about Watergate,

but they're very they're tomes and they're very, very complex. And it's hard. I mean, you have to kind of study them. So my goal was to be the unified field theory of Watergate revisionist books. And what happened with Nixon is Nixon decided to do strategic arm limitation talks with the Soviets. And he also started to open up China for diplomacy, reproachment. And he was doing this behind the backs of the CIA,

the Department of Defense, and actually the State Department. And on his first or second day, Nixon didn't like the CIA, because he felt that the CIA sabotaged him when he ran against JFK in 1960. So Nixon, it was I think National Security Memorandum to us some kind of innocuous document that he issued his first or second day where he said that the CIA, the Department of Defense and the State Department will have no input whatsoever in any of my geopolitical moves. Basically, he was telling those three bodies just to go to hell and he was going to do his own thing. And then he started making contact with the Russians and I started making contact with the Chinese. He'd been a cold warrior and he saw that that wasn't working. He saw that containment wasn't working and he just saw that we were spending all this money and he just realized it wasn't.

It just wasn't prudent. It never worked. So we started to do this. And then the Joint Chiefs of Staff actually had an espionage ring against Nixon. It's called the Moore Radford affair. Thomas Moore was head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He was an admiral. And they used Moore and they used Radford, who is a yeoman that was the link between because he was using the National Security Council. Nixon was to to do all these moves and Radford would was the

the liaison between the Joint Chiefs and the National Security Staff. So Radford was stealing all these documents. And Alexander Haig was in on it, too. And actually, Haig plays a role in the demise of Nixon. So Haig was enabling Radford to see all these documents. Alexander Haig is he's a general. He was the Joint Chiefs. He was Nixon's chief of staff, and then he was ultimately the overall

leader of NATO. I would love to see him. And he's from Philadelphia. Awesome. Is he really? Yeah, he's from Philadelphia. Damn go birds. So the Joint Chiefs started this espionage ring against Nixon, but the chiefs started this espionage ring against Nixon, but the next administration outed the the espionage ring.

Oh, they found out. Yeah. So so then the CIA started to infiltrate the next administration, kind of like Starfish or Scarface at the end of the movie were, you know, he's double cross the Bolivian drug dealer and all those assassins, you know, are coming. OK, so that's what the CIA did to the Nixon administration. I mean, they just started inundating the Nixon administration from all different types of angles. And what's interesting about Watergate, it's a conspiracy within a conspiracy. What's interesting about Watergate, it's a conspiracy within a conspiracy.

Because McCord and Hunt, who are the two guys that were busted in Margaret, they their their goal was to take down Nixon. They wanted to take down Nixon and. But there were two agendas at work. And this is actually my third book on sexual political blackmail, because at the heart of Watergate is a sexual as a CIA sexual honey trap. And what's really interesting. So the burglars broke into Watergate and

there was a secretary from the Democratic National Committee named Maxie Wells. She kept photos of prostitutes in her desk under lock and key. And if if you were a Democratic VIP, you would go there and take a look. And then these girls would be at the Columbia Plaza, which was a high class apartment building. And that was in the CIA had a film was had video or film or whatever.

So you just walk into this lady's office and she'd be like, check out these. Well, I mean, I'm sure that there was some kind of secret handshake or code or something like that. I like, hey, I like a hooker. Is there a. So do you think these girls are pretty? So, John, the and the woman that ran that escort service cherry blossoms are beautiful this time.

Oh, yes, they are. Yes, Senator. I don't know if there's a lot of cherries at that. Oh, yeah. But the cherries are gone. I think cherries have been gone a long time. But so. John Dean's wife, Marine Dean, was good friends

of Heidi Reichen, ran that escort service. That's yeah, I compromised. And actually, G. Gordon Liddy said that she was part of that escort service that C.I. compromise. And actually, G. Gordon Liddy said that she was part of that escort service. And she and he was sued, but he managed to win when it the first was a hung jury, but then he won the second trial. But anyway, so one of the burglars, Eugenio Martinez, had a key to the desk.

Where the pictures were taken. Oh, no. Where the pictures were kept. And when they got busted, their photograph equipment was on her desk. So but then there was another OK. So that was the first conspiracy, and that was initiated by. So did he when he used the key, did he get rid of those pictures and they were never? No, no. Well, he was the he got busted before he could even get into the desk.

I mean, they were they were on them really quickly. And he tried to get rid of the key. He got the shit kicked out of him twice by Carl Schaffler. Who was in shop? He got the shit kicked out of him twice by Karl Schoffler. Damn, who was the fucking Schoffler? Karl Schoffler was the cop that was notified that the Watergate break down was going down. Why was he trying to take the pictures of the naked ladies? I think that they wanted to take as many pictures, pictures of whatever documentation women or anything that they possibly could.

And this was a CIA guy stealing the ladies. OK, so, yeah, that's I'm confused. Hold on. The lady's name was what was the wife's name again? Marie Marine Dean, John Dean's wife. Got you. Who's John Dean? OK, so John Dean was counsel to the president. OK, and he was the guy that supposedly saw that that the Nixon administration was awash in moral turpitude

and corruption. Got you. And he's the guy he had a book called it's actually a great piece of fiction. It's called Blind Ambition. And he was the guy that turned on Nixon in the Nixon administration. And then ultimately was Nixon's word against Dean's word. But there's there's quotes or there's tapes of Nixon talking about Dean and Dean lying. I mean, Dean, he's a snaky guy.

And Marine Dean was very, very attractive. And John Dean. Well, but she was good friends with Heidi Riken. And it's what's really interesting is. Everybody a number of people have thought that she was working as a prostitute for Heidi Reichen or working with Heidi Reichen, writing her prostitute gig. And now, according OK, John Dean's book was blind ambition and Marines Dean was Watergate, a woman's journey.

And they both say that they met in L.A. that Marine Dean was living in L.A. when they met. And then she they had a tort romance and then Marine Dean flew to Washington. And then. That was it. They she moved in with John Dean. But I found a an article in. The Washington Post where it's talking about her working for the government. Before that, so either they're lying in their books or the Washington Post is lying

because it's out of the if you if you take that chronology in the Washington Post, it's because people have said Marine Dean was a hooker, but it But according to The Washington Post, she was already in Washington, D.C. when she met John Dean. So with that timeline, it's it's definitely feasible that she could have been a hooker for with Heidi Reichen. And plus her and Heidi Reichen were very good friends. That's I mean, that's pretty much proven. Gotcha. So what are they actually nailing for? So you're saying the Knicks can if I'm if I'm right or you're saying the Nixon, if I'm right or wrong,

I don't know if I'm right or wrong, but it's like Nixon's. People had this prostitution thing going on and they tried to expose that, and then he caught them trying to do. OK, so what what happened was Nixon didn't know anything. He didn't know. OK, he didn't know anything about any of this question. And actually, the top people in the Nixon administration didn't know about Watergate. They knew nothing about Watergate.

And it was Jeb Magruder, who was the acting chairman of the committee to reelect the president. And it was John Dean that sent them in there to the Watergate. And they were, the story I was always, they were just in there to steal what, Democrat political plans? Well dirt, dirt. They were just in there to get dirt on the dirt.

The second time, the first time, actually there were two break-ins. The first time was dirt, or the first time was, yeah, any kind of documentation, but the second time was definitely dirt. Okay. I mean that's why they had the key to Maxwell's death. But if they were in there to get dirt,

why would, I thought they were against Nixon. Well, a lot of those guys. No, no, well they were CIA guys. All those guys were CIA, except for G Gordon Liddy, the crazy one, but they were all CIA. So the overt plan. To get it for for them was to get dirt. The plan that Magruder and Dean

told them to do was to get dirt. Now, there was a second agenda going on there. Those CIA guys, McCord and Hunt, had infiltrated the next administration like those assassins. Yeah. And Scarface. And their goal was to get Nixon out of office. And they had the opportunity because that was that whole thing was was a setup. McCord really hated Nixon and Hunt didn't like him at all. And just to make sure that the steal them out of the office.

What's that? You can have them steal. Now, so how are they going to do it, though? Are they just going to like plant something or just like look for bad stuff? Just intentionally. They were just going to see how it went on. But then there's the media side of it, too, which I can get into a little bit later. But with the CIA guys, they wanted the the the burglars were just

there were Cubans that had worked with the CIA before. But but Hunt and McCord were actual agents. Now, they were ostensibly retired, but they weren't. I'm in the book. I show that that they're still working with the CIA. I'm in the book I show that that they're still working with the CIA. So the the goal of Dean and Magruder was to get dirt on the Democrats. And some people have speculated that Dean wanted those pictures because his wife was in those pictures. I don't know.

But that's what people have speculated. But the CIA guys, that was not their goal. Their goal was to incriminate Nixon. And the OK, so at the Watergate, the Democratic National Committee was on the sixth floor and on the eighth floor was the Federal Reserve Committee or whatever it was, Federal Reserve Committee. And now someone had broken into the Federal Reserve

about a month before the first Watergate Burglary. And the McCord really tried hard to get busted. So at about midnight. Six guys in suits. Signed into the Watergate at midnight and went up to the eighth floor, signed in for the Federal Reserve. And but the security guard was like, I think he probably had the IQ of an avocado. He just he couldn't figure that out at all.

So the second time they went in, there was a guy named Baldwin, and he called the D.C. police and Carl Schoffler was a he was a D.C. policeman, but he is also he'd also worked for intelligence, probably probably a little bit of both. And he was a block and a half away. And then when the call came in, they went right to the Watergate. And then and then they got busted.

And Nixon, the thing with. So those were the two. It was a conspiracy within a conspiracy. The overt conspiracy was to get dirt. And then the CIA's conspiracy, the covert conspiracy, was to get Nixon. And you're saying Nixon didn't even know about the Nixon, no.

Get dirt plan. Didn't have a clue. None of those guys did. And that's what they were calling each other. And they go, who sent these guys in? Because Nixon was way ahead of McGovern. I mean, he walloped McGovern. It was going to be the probably the biggest landslide

up to that point. Reagan's still 2024. True. Why is he in trouble for people breaking in, though? I understand. What's that? Why was he? Why? So he got in trouble. So they sent Watergate was just they sent people into the Democratic committee to steal shit. That's what he got. He got blamed for that. Yeah.

Gotcha. Yeah. That was the that was the how it was portrayed. OK, that makes sense. And that's what Nixon left office for. It hit the fuck. Yeah. No, no. But what happened, what he left office for was obstruction of justice. Because Nixon, I mean, you listen to the tapes of these guys and they're they're going like, what the fuck?

Yeah. And who ordered those guys to break in? Now, Magruder and Dean, who ordered them to break in, kept quiet. So those guys had no idea. Damn. So there was just like nine burglars in the building. And that was. Yeah. so there was just like nine burglars in the building. And then it was just like, yeah, but Nixon, Nixon, his natural instinct was to cover it up. I mean, he didn't he knew he didn't know why anybody broke into the office or he didn't know some of the other crazy stuff that these guys.

But it was just his political instinct to cover it up. And that's where he got busted is he tried to use the CIA and the CIA double crossed him. He tried to use the CIA because the FBI launched this investigation and they found leads to the next administration because of Hunt and McCord. And he tried to get the CIA to play their national security guard to stop the FBI.

Now, Richard Helm was head of the CIA at that point, and he him and Nixon hated each other when there would be a cabinet briefing or a National Security Council briefing, Helms was allowed to brief the cabinet members of the National Security Council. But then after that, he had to leave. I mean, Nixon had overdat. They really hated each other. Now, Richard Helms said, Don, we're not going to cover it up. But then Nixon said something about the Kennedy assassination. And and actually, there's tapes where Nixon is grilling Helms.

Who shot John? Who shot John? And so Nixon leveraged them with the the Kennedy assassination. Oh, wow. And then Helms said, OK, we'll do it. We'll do it. But he didn't. So and actually the CIA provided more incriminating evidence against Nixon. But Nixon didn't know any of this stuff. All these machinations were just going on below the surface.

Jesus. Yeah, that's pretty cool. I had no idea. I thought he got like trouble for like stealing stuff. I didn't know what happened. I thought he actually just stole stuff and got busted and was like, my bad. I'm not a crook. Yeah, I'm not a crook. It's the thing is if if Dean and Magruder hadn't ordered those break-ins and Nixon would have.

That's what was tied to his. Yeah, yeah, those pictures and of their wives, their hot wives. Their hot wife and they got busted. We got to get those naked pictures of our hot prostitute wives out of there. She's about to go down. Well, these are adults. I mean, I got to give them that much. They were adults. True. Yeah, true. Yeah. I mean, I got to give them that much. They were adults. True.

Yeah, true. Yeah. But today's standards. Yeah. By today's standards. Yeah. Yeah, it was actually very nice of them. Very shifty. So they wanted Nixon out because he was trying to chill out on the Cold War. Well, he was befriending the communists. Yeah. And the hawks in the CIA and the Department of Defense hated the communists.

Nixon's always portrayed in like modern all of every movies. And he's like a war hawk. Like, yeah, he's always like, we need to nuke them now. Yeah. Well, meanwhile, he was trying to deescalate. Yes. Big time. And he even told him he even told the Soviets that he was willing to relinquish Vietnam. Didn't didn't it end under his administration? Vietnam one?

Yeah. I mean, he bombed the shit out of the Vietnamese before he hit that. He gave it a shot. But Nixon is kind of split personality. So he really worked hard to do an arms deal with the Soviets because he saw the nuclear escalation. And actually, he cut the fence by 64 percent

in his administration. And he did some positive like OSHA, and he wanted to give health care for everybody, all all Americans. He he enacted some the environmental protection agency. Americans. He enacted some the environmental protection agency. I mean, that was also a Nixon initiative. He did do some good things. Now we just look at him as evil

incarnate. But yeah. But it was so what was really interesting about this is Woodward and Bernstein were essentially the guys that the two reporters that brought him down and they're the most pathological liars of probably anybody in the entire Watergate saga.

It's really interesting and Ben Bradley was the editor of the Washington Post and he was a CIA guy, too. So and Woodward was also a CIA guy at Bernstein, just wanted money for nothing and chicks for free. I mean, he blew all his money on prostitutes and coke. Yeah. And he had a he had a tough time after that. But Percy Percy. And so what's fantasy? I mean, people think that those two are like the Mount Rushmore of journalism.

And I mean, what's amazing about them is they're telling lies when they don't even need to lie. I mean, a lot of time they need to lie. And I understand that, but they're they're telling lies and they don't even need to lie. It's it's kind of amazing. What were some of the most like egregious lies? Deep Throat. Okay, Deep Throat was the guy that that was gave Woodward all the dirt on Nixon to take him down. Now,

deep throat, by the way, what's that? Why did he call himself back before it was really fucking? I remember even as a kid being like, why don't you? I don't like that. Did they make a porn like right away? That like popularized it really? Yeah, like that's, oh, that's deep. Yeah, there was a very popular porn movie called Deep Throat. And that's what word. Oh, he just named himself. Yeah, that's popular porn movie called Deep Throat. And that's what we're. Oh, he just named himself after it.

That's pretty sick. Oh, he named himself after it. Well, he named his source deep throat. Oh, OK. Was the porn out before he named it deep throat? But the point was out and then there was a Supreme Court battle over it. And then the point and then it was back in. My political name would have to be thick Latina mommy's Source Latino mommy is here. He's here to give us all this

Stepmom stuck Yes, he does. So he named himself... Girlfriend experience is here. He named himself after a boy. That's crazy. No, no, he didn't. Woodward named him after his favorite boy. Woodward is a fucking sick ass.

That's crazy. That's fucked up. If I was Deep Throat, I'd be like, what the fuck? Because you was briefing other agents. They're like, oh, my sword is Deep Throat. All right, dude. Deep Throat hid his identity, right? Totally hid his identity.

You can't be like, dude, stop calling me Deep Throat. You can't be like, dude, stop calling me Deep Throat. You can't be like, dude, stop calling me Deep Throat. You can't be like, dude, stop calling me Deep Throat. You can't be like, dude, stop calling me Deep Throat. You can't be like, dude, stop calling me Deep Throat. You can't be like, dude, stop calling me Deep Throat. You can't be like, dude, stop calling me Deep Throat.

You can't be like, dude, stop calling me Deep Throat. You can't be like, dude, stop calling me Deep Throat. You can't be like, dude, stop calling me Deep Throat. You can't be like, dude, stop calling me Deep Throat. You can't be like, dude, my sword is deep throat. All right, dude. Deep throat, deep throat, it hid his identity, right? Totally hid his identity. You can't be like, dude, stop calling me deep throat. You just have to be like, fuck, I'm deep throat now. If you briefed all the other guys, you'd be like, well, deep throat, they'd be reading the thing like, dude, can you stop calling him deep throat, please? Mr. Blue is fine.

Yeah, Mr. Blue works. But they rolled out a guy named Mark Felt who was severely impaired by Alzheimer's and said this was Deep Throat. Yes. And actually, I think Deep Throat was a composite. I think that Woodward was getting, I mean, Woodward was tapped into intelligence.

He was naval intelligence. Okay, so I'm sorry, just for everybody that's not familiar with Watergate, Deep Throat was Woodward's inside source on all this stuff that broke to the Washington Post? Yeah. Okay. So Woodward said that he had this elaborate system that he'd contact Deep Throat,

that he would move this flower pot on his balcony. Okay, so his apartment faced a courtyard, so Deep Throat couldn't have just driven by and seen the balcony. He would have to go behind the parking lot. And here's where it really gets problematic. If Mark Felt was fired six months before the most incriminating stuff on on Nixon came out the tapes.

And so he according to Woodward's I mean no one said this but he was driving in from Virginia every day you know going behind Woodward's building and looking up. I mean so I mean that's it's total bullshit. I mean, it's yeah. Yeah. And there was never and they never even found the identity of. So that that seems kind of weird to me to be a journalist and be like, I have a secret source. Yeah. And then write it as fact. Yes. That seems outrageous.

You can literally make anything up and say, I have a secret source. And especially, I mean, with all the lies that I catch them. And then it's kind of interesting if Deep Throat ostensibly wanted to contact Woodward, he would take the New York Times and then he'd put the time, a clock on whatever page, and then the paper would be delivered to Woodward. But the problem is all the New York Times

that went to that particular apartment building were just put in a pile. They weren't put in front of Woodward's door door. So the whole thing about Woodward is. And what happened was as Watergate started taking a toll on the Nixon administration, he had to start firing people. He fired his chief of staff, Halderman.

He fired his domestic czar, John Ehrlichman. He had to fire his attorney general, Richard Kleindies. And Alexander Haig was such a great shapeshifter. He had been in that administration because he'd worked for Nixon or worked for Kissinger at the National Security Council. And Nixon really liked him. Haig hated Nixon, but Haig was a really cunning sociopath.

So he became Nixon's chief of staff, which was the biggest mistake that Haldeman ever made, H.R. Haldeman, when he got fired, he said, well, try Alexander Haag. And it was Alexander Haag that provided the really incriminating stuff. But here's the thing, Woodward and Haag lied. They said they hadn't met each other until 1973, and Woodward was debriefing Hague in the 1960s when Woodward was with Naval Intelligence. So that. Woodward was Naval Intelligence before he became a journalist.

Yeah, yeah. And here's what. Free next, bro. Yeah, true. So what's interesting is, and I'll tell you just how crazy the Woodward story is. So Woodward, he graduates from Yale and he's accepted Harvard Law School. And then he ostensibly goes to the Washington Post after he's been accepted to Harvard Law School and says,

you know, I'd really like to be a reporter. I tell you what, I'm going to I'm going to. How about if I write for you guys for two weeks? And then if you don't like it, you know, you don't even have to pay me. And if you don't like it, then I'll then I'll leave. So that was a deal that was ostensibly made with The Washington Post. And then they put him ultimately, he ended up in the triple a system of The Washington Post in

and a weekly in Maryland. And every he drove a carmine gear, he lived in a very nice apartment. There's no way that he could. And I demonstrate this very nice apartment. There's no way that he could. And I demonstrate this in the book. There's no way that he could have paid. Well, there's definitely a spy at that point. Yeah. Yeah. I understand. There's no way he was making.

And then the Washington Post brought him back. And then nine months later, he and Bernstein broke open Watergate. Yeah, that's kind of weird. It's yeah, it's it when I when I and then they tell all kinds of other lies. But but Deep Throat is is definitely the biggest lie that they tell. Do you think the stuff happened to Trump now might be some sort of interference operation or what? You know, I don't know. You said it, brother.

I was waiting to ask and I was like, I don't know. I was it, bro. Yeah. I was waiting to ask, and I was like, I don't want to. I was curious. It sounds familiar. Yeah. I don't. It's really hard to know with Trump. I don't see how that guy cannot be compromised myself. I mean, but it does have the thing that reminds me of it is like the hallmarks of like JFK

and Nixon where it's like, let's deescalate with Russia. Let's deescalate with North Korea and China. Like, why are we, you know what I mean? It seems to be that. You know, I'm willing to keep my mind open on that. Yeah. His tax bill was probably the biggest redistribution of wealth that we've ever experienced in the United States in a short period of time. So he did help the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. He's also circled in Epstein's black book.

Yeah, right. Which is pretty incriminating. And he denied being with Epstein, but an Epstein victim has come forward and said that she'd talked to another Epstein victim. There were adults, but that Trump had been kind of hard on the one victim. So they're hard on how so? Just a little rough, rough, sexually rough. Yeah.

I knew I'm dynamo in the sack. I mean, we're not talking leather and SNL. But I heard in all the scenes island. Yeah, I would say, yeah, if you if you're on the. He was pretty good pals. They were they were really good. And it's tough to know. He said that he heard that Epstein.

I heard he broke it off after the first one when Epstein got arrested in Florida. Well, he ostensibly broke it off before then. But I mean, it's, Donald Trump has problems with veracity. So it's difficult to know. Has there been any connections of him and Epstein after that? Like when he said they were done being friends?

Yeah, he took Epstein's plane. After that? Yeah, after that. And he was also visited Epstein's house. A deposition from Epstein's brother, Mark talks about that. So he did lie. Trump did lie about that. Yeah. Got you.

With Gates and Gates revisited him to Disney. Well, here's the thing with Bill Gates. Yeah. What? OK. The media cover story on him is that they met in 2011. The Evening Standard did an article on Epstein in 2001. And according to that article. Gates and Epstein were doing business in the 90s. Damn. There's a lot that's been covered up about Epstein.

And there's guys like me that really want to get at the truth. But the government and the media are just fond of kicking out salacious details. And and it's really hard to get to the truth because there's been so many lies. But when I think about Trump being prosecuted or persecuted, you know, I do think about Nixon being persecuted. I believe, you know, here's the thing with Nixon.

He wanted to deescalate the arms race. He wanted to open up China so he could use China against Russia. I mean, that was his thing. And it was working for sure. But then he backed Pinochet, who was a genocidal dictator. He Jack Suharto, whose back Suharto, who was a genocidal dictator. And then Pol Pot, the Chinese were down with Pol Pot, and he wanted to appease the Chinese.

So he tacitly backed Pol Pot. But was this was that CIA doing that or that was him? That was next. OK. I mean, the CIA ultimately did it. Did things that enabled it. They got it done. So with Nixon, it's it's not. The media has sold Nixon as good versus evil,

but it's not quite that simple. Yeah. And the media has also said that it was the left that toppled Nixon when it was actually the right that really had the more the the the means mode of an opportunity. Yeah. Initially. I mean, eventually the left got involved. But after the right had inflicted a tremendous amount of an opportunity. Yeah, initially. I mean, eventually the left got involved. But after the right had inflicted a tremendous amount of damage on. Day. Yeah, I had no idea.

I never really asked. I didn't know much about what again. I knew he I thought he's got caught doing something kind of bad. Yeah, everything that like I said, when we started, everything that you know about Watergate. Is a lie. Damn, just about everything. She was taking a pee break. Yeah, I do have to pee really badly. The Watergate is a lie. Damn. Just about everything. Shit. Let's take a pee break. Yeah, I do have to pee really badly.

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Mmm, oh, please also this week. I'll be in Las Vegas. Please come wise guys Las Vegas go to Matt McCusker comm for tickets Yeah, and there's a bunch of other shows. Please come by Yep, don't even ask stick your fucking beak in the cave. Sorry. Sorry. I'll be quick Me LaMare Nate's show is on May 7th at the Creek in the cave If you're in Austin, Texas, please come Those have been really fun shows. Yeah, they are great. The now Nate's with you guys with us. It's a three-man team now You guys yeah Paul's Brazil

Don't ever back talk And he's come to rally good nights and rally on June 6. Thank you. God now. We got a big shot touring comic Oh, yeah, I wish Thank you Thank you Yeah before we get into the Watergate stuff. Yeah, we'll do this as like a precursor almost There you go It was a precursor yeah, because a lot of the fuck.

A lot of people listen to this are young men that just young men that have never really heard of Watergate or have a just a brief summary of some names and what the overall scandal or at least is portrayed as the official narrative. The official narrative with Watergate is Richard Nixon sanctioned Watergate. And the burglars got busted. And then Nixon. Tried to cover it up.

And then that's ultimately what he was taking down for is obstruction of justice. OK. But the real Watergate story is Nixon didn't have a clue that those guys were breaking in to the Watergate. He had a couple of guys on his staff, Jeff McGruder, who was acting chairman for the committee to reelect the president, and John Dean, who was counsel to the president, those two guys sanctioned the Watergate break-ins. And the burglars, G. Gordon-Liddy, and was the only one that wasn't CIA.

All those burglars were CIA guys or CIA assets or had been CIA assets. G. Gordon Liddy was the only one and he'd worked for the FBI. So Liddy was the point man and Liddy thought that breaking into the Watergate was coming from Nixon's attorney general, John Dean, or John Mitchell. But he had no idea that it was coming from Nixon's attorney general, John Dean or John Mitchell.

But he had no idea that it was coming from Jeb McGruder and John Dean. So they sent the burglars in the first time to get as much information on the Democrats. Now, the Watergate was the sixth floor. the Democratic National Committee was on this, or this. The Democratic National Committee was on the sixth floor of the Watergate. And the burglars broke in the first time, and they were looking for like democratic strategies, things like that. Gotcha. And then they broke in a second time.

The first time they broke in, they didn't get caught. They did not get caught. And this was how long before the second break in? About three weeks. Okay. And then three weeks later, they were ordered to get as much dirt as they possibly could. And the Democratic National Committee was connected to a brothel that was a CIA honey trap.

And what happened was the secretary at the Democratic National Committee had up in her desk. She had pictures of a bunch of prostitutes yeah and Democratic VIPs would check out the pictures of the prostitutes. So that was a whole separate issue yeah so we got that one all right yeah we got that one I think we're good yes we have the preamble let's get let's fire it up right back to where we were, which was. What are we talking about? Yeah, Bill Gates. Easy. All right.

We just got done talking about Bill Gates's connection with Epstein back in the 90s. Yeah. What bothers me about Gates, have you guys ever tried to get a hold of a human? If you had a problem with word. Oh, it's the worst, dude. Or you want to have one time? What happens is they'll do a thing where you'll just like an Indian guy was take over your computer like you'll just I was like moving my mouse and my mouse would start going to the left and I'd be like, what the fuck?

He's like, sir, please stop. You notice if you give him permission, you'll just get into your computer and start fucking going nuts on it. You've gone for I've never been able to a lot for me to get that, though. I was chat bot after chat bot. If they got into my computer, dude. Yeah. Eventually ruin all my total war campaigns. You can take it. Start a war with Russia.

I don't want that. You know, here's what I mean. There's a number of things that bothered me about Bill Gates, but one of the preeminent things is. He's buying all this land. Yeah. Why can't he put a call center? You know, on one of those acres. I mean, if he just spent a little of his money

and made a call center in Idaho, have the dudes like how when all the strawberries, the Bluetooth, and they could do to a watch. Yes. Yeah. See. But not Billy. He's got a because I'm a writer and I rely on Microsoft word, unfortunately. And I had some problems with it about six months ago, and I desperately tried to talk to humans.

Can you find your Word documents that you save on the OneDrive? If I save anything on OneDrive, I can't find it. I don't know where it is on my computer. Sorry, we don't have to talk about it. No, no. I mean, I can try to give you some tips. I can't find the file afterwards. I'm stumped. I'm currently stumped. I try to send.

You lost your files. I just try to like, they're there, but then I try to email them to someone as an attachment and it's just like, where is it? You need a call center. I do. You desperately need a call center. You gotta let the engines into your computer

and those will start. Yeah, they'll get it. They'll get in there. Which I don't know how I even got in there. That was kind of nuts. I was like, get out of my fucking mouse. I mean, Gates wasn't making enough money selling Microsoft Word. Now we have to rent it.

And then, and then, yeah, the suite. There's no call center. I mean, yeah, that's simple. That might be his most honestly out of everything he's accused of. That might be the worst. Was he ever accused of laying with ladies at Epstein's? He's been outed that way. Not with Epstein, but with some, in some other scenarios.

But if he's been outed in other scenarios, I mean, why wouldn't he? Yeah, why wouldn't he do it to you? His wife was the one who blasted him on the Epstein stuff. Actually, according to the media, she left him. Because of it. Because of the Epstein stuff. Actually, according to the media, she left him because of it because the Epstein stuff. Yeah. Yeah. But he and Epstein went back to the 1990s instead of 2011. There's so much bullshit that that's been manufactured about Epstein and so much salacious dirt. It's really unfortunate. You've got a guy that traffic children for 25 years and our media.

No one in the mainstream media has called for any justice for any of those victims. Now, it became right wing to even care about it. That's been it. Yeah, that's for sure. If you care about it, that's a big thing. We talk about a lot on this is like, we don't do anything about it. The only thing you can do with Epstein is just on a podcast be like, the fuck, what was that?

Yeah, true. They killed him, we knew they were gonna kill him. And he trafficked kids and no one, yeah. That's as far as we get. There's a couple of things with Epstein that people just don't know. as we get there's a couple of things with with Epstein that people just don't know. OK, there's the Epstein victims compensation fund

that where a lot of evidence money went and. It 225 victims applied for money. One hundred and fifty were given. Yeah, one hundred and fifty were given money and eight decided not to take the deal. So ultimately, one hundred and forty two were given money and eight decided not to take the deal. So ultimately, 142 were given. Damn, you imagine being cheap with that money. But think of all the girls that he trafficked and only 225 were come forward. But here's the other there's a couple of things.

If you take any money from that fund, you've got to sign an NDA or you cannot name any of the perpetrators. And also, I know two psychologists and one of them is very eminent. She's in the world of psychology, she's quite the superstar. She's quite the superstar. She's counseled a woman and then another psychologist is counseled. They were under 10 years old. When they were trafficked by Epstein and one actually described Epstein's home

and then talked about a park that was by his house and a number of things. And she was she was under 10 years old. And then I know of one other. I mean, these two psychologists I know pretty well. But then I know of another account too, that I've been told of another account from someone who's, I think, legitimate, but I just haven't been able to corroborate.

So you've got the Epstein Victims Compensation Fund is a huge cover up tool. Damn. It's being used to do what the government can't to get these girls to shut up. And you've got it. And according to the government, the mainstream media, the youngest Epstein victim was 14 years old. So if you're going to apply for that fund

and you're younger than 14, you're not gonna, they're not gonna give you any money. And there's, and we have no idea of how it works. We have no idea what the criteria is. It's behind a, it's in a black hole essentially. It's weird that they're not, why would like, I mean, it's not weird, we know why, but it's clear that it's a coverup.

They're not being open about anything. This should all be, like I mean, it's not weird. We know why, but it's clear it's a cover up. If they're not being open about anything, this should all be like you said you filed for Freedom of Information Act and all that. This should be public, right? Yeah, I mean, it's like, what's the point of being like, we can't tell anyone what's pretty useful to know. Yeah. In terms of like hiring, voting for politicians.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. You raped. Yeah. Did he rape a kid? Yeah, you're out, dude. We can't vote for you. Yeah. You rape a kid. Yeah. You're out, dude. We can't vote for you. Yeah. I wrote a book called The Franklin Scandal, which is basically a.

Epstein is a carbon copy of the Frank. Yeah, it was about child trafficking that we're talking about. That the first time I was on your show. And this time around, I mean, I was on the scene in 2012 and I got his black book in 2012. Yeah. Yeah. And I ultimately published it. Gawker helped me publish it in 2015, but it took me three years to get that book published. It's kind of interesting.

Once the book was put, nobody wanted to touch the book. And but once the book was published, the floodgates opened on the book. Yeah. And I started an organization, a 501 C3 called Epstein Justice. And what we're trying to do is to get a commission formed to actually look at the perpetrators. We want the perpetrators to be accountable and we want to know why the government is covering up child trafficking. And those are we have two simple objective objectives.

We want the perpetrators prosecuted and we want the government to tell us why it's covering up child trafficking. Yeah, like why did they steal the original case when he got busted the first time that all got sealed in it? Um. The very, very first case way back. A lot of that was sealed. I mean, I was able to get a lot of documents from the police and also the feds. They're floating around out there. I mean, I was the feds when Epstein was originally

busted. He was the Palm Beach Police Department started investigating in 2006. And then about a year later, they gave they were going to arrest EPC on five counts of child abuse. And they knew of they had statements from five minors, but they knew of 17 others. So so there were 22 minors there. And then that case got taken away from them and it was put into a grand jury. And how grand juries work is a special prosecutor is chosen for a grand jury. And he's the one that presents evidence to the grand jurors who have just they're just regular citizens that have shown up for jury duty. And so grand juries have been notoriously

easy to hijack because you just show them the evidence that you want to show them. So although, and the guy, the special prosecutor for the Florida grand jury, Barry Kirschner, he called one victim and skewered her even though he knew about 22, even though law enforcement. Now, when it went to the feds, they had a list, and I've got that list of over 30

victims and they didn't indict FCM one kind of child abuse. Jesus. And it's interesting. A lot of your listeners might know this, but Alexander Acosta was the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida, and he was asked, he became Trump's labor secretary. And when the Trump administration was vetting him, they asked him why he went so light on Epstein. And he said, I was told that Epstein was intelligence and it was above my pay grade. He actually said that and he's never denied saying that. What?

Yeah, he said that. Shit. So, unfortunately, there's a rogue element of our intelligence that blackmails people. And it happened in Watergate. It happened in the Franklin scandal and then it happened with confessions of a DC madam. So this is actually Watergate's actually my third book on CIA sexual blackmail.

And I don't really want to write another one at this point. I mean, I'm I'm kind of done now. Yeah, I think I'm going to start writing about fishing. That'd be nice. Fishing and picnics. Fantasy, fantasy. And it's Like fantasy novel would be nice. I think my mind is probably too dark for that, but given what I've exposed it to the last time, I've been at this for 22 years. So yeah, it's it's it's been kind of a slog. But Epstein justice. I every American knows that something is wrong with the Epstein case.

There's three. If you've got a pathology, there's three ways. There's there's three phases. There's awareness, there's acceptance, there's action. And now we're at the point where Americans have to accept that the government covered this up. And then at that point, as and that's a jumping off point for for action. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, nobody believed that.

I think you got to be pretty entrenched in like the TV news to be like, no, you did. The police were going to arrest him and penalize him and everybody. And he killed himself. It's like, oh, no, man. He really he did pick a convenient time to kill himself. True. Yeah. I and the guards left and the cameras turned off

and he got depressed and he's like, what's the point? The fuck's the point? He missed the guards. And then his serial killer cellmate was taken out. Yeah. And damn, he had a cellmate was taken out. Yeah. And, um, damn, he had a cellmate. I didn't even know that. What's that?

He was bunking up with the guy. Yeah. With the guy that had killed multiple people. I think maybe the Bureau of Prisons was hoping that, I mean, they're pretty close. You're in pretty close proximity with with with a multiple killer. You know, they're probably shaking his cage, rattling his cage. Every day at lunch, feel like a fuck you pussy. You won't do it.

You won't kill anyone ever again. You soft bitch here. Take this knife. That's crazy. Yeah, he was there with a serial killer. It's well, this guy was a former police officer who'd killed some people. Yeah, those guys go rogue, dude. Yeah, it's, I don't know if you could call him a serial, I don't know, a serial killer,

I think he killed three people. We got one here right now. In Austin, really? In Austin, yeah. I think they found two bodies like last week. No one cares because it's because apparently it's gay guys. So everyone's going at it, doesn't matter. They suspect he's gay because he only kills young adult males.

That leave bars on rainy streets. And that's where you frequent. That's not where I frequent. Be careful Sean. Sean be careful. I'll catch him. You might catch him. You might with your wrestling background.

Do you ever hear about the weekend to justice? I was just my friend was telling me this weekend There's a lake in somewhere in Georgia called like not Renear some some sort of lake where apparently It had something to do with like the slave trade back in the day and blah blah blah But all these like younger kids were like will be partying on the lake And they just go under. They'll ask their friends, like was your friend hammered? Like, nah, I look fine.

So there's a local lore that there's these ghosts of slaves that are just pulling down white party members. Oh wow. Yeah dude, I heard about that. I was like, damn, that's so scary. That's very scary. Get your ass down here. Get your ass down here, motherfucker. Better work on your breaststroke.

Yeah, true. Now, this is racist, but you think you'd be able to out swim. You think that's white territory. You go, we're in the water now. You've entered the white's domain. You've had your fifth white claw. Yeah, that's a tough way to go. You just evented the lights domain. You've had your fifth white claw. Yeah, it's a tough way to go.

A goal. Battle board. Get off me. Oh, shit. My first major investigation was into a serial killer. That's I love it. My first major investigation was in. I'm from Minneapolis and I wrote for the weekly. And there was a crazy woman who she ran an organization called Whisper,

and she tried to mainstream prostitutes, get them out of the life. But she was so crazy that it was hard to listen to her. And she was saying that there's serial killer killing prostitutes. It was hard to listen to her, and she was saying that there's serial killer killing prostitutes and but nobody really listened to her because she was so crazy. And then I decided, well, you know, I'm not looking into this. And and I was able to find I think it was like 46 women, mostly prostitutes

that have been stabbed, strangled or beaten to death in the previous eight years. Now, law enforcement had denied that there was a serial killer. But then I got them. I showed them my list, which was really difficult to put together. Yeah, I showed them my list and I said, I went to the Minneapolis Police Department. I went to the St. Paul police. I said, you guys really want to say that there's no serial killer?

And and then they kind of cop to it. But then it was a task force was formed. Oh, well, do they ever get the guy in the way of that article? No. And they're really hard to catch. Yeah. If they're good. I mean, if they're stupid, you can get them after one or two. Yeah. If they're Ted Bundy or was was Domber in Minneapolis. He was in St. or Wisconsin. Okay. He's Milwaukee, right?

Yeah, I can remember I was at this really nice little island in Lake Superior called Madeline Island. And I and the guys that I was staying with, they don't have like, televisions or radios or anything. I mean, it's pretty rustic and it's really cool to do a lot. There's berry picking and fishing, all kinds of stuff. Very pick is nice. I did it this year. It's very relaxing. Blueberries. It was fantastic.

It's we're definitely picking blueberries. That's nice. It was awesome. And I came back to civilization and I stopped off at a diner. And that's when Jeffrey Dahmer had been outed. And I was reading the newspaper and I thought to myself, welcome back to civilization. Yeah. Yeah. It's a. Cannibal. But the FBI says that there's like 50 of them

at any given time in the United States. 50 serial killers kicking around? But I think it's probably closer to 200. Jesus Christ. It's kind of interesting. Our culture, I mean, serial killers are in all cultures, but our culture seems to mass produce them more than other countries. Yeah. That's interesting.

What would be your insights into that? About why we have more than than other countries. Yeah, that is interesting. Well, what would be your insights into that? About why we have more serial killers? Yeah, because we're number one. Sure. We're the best. We're the best at literally everything. School shooters. Yeah, we are the best. We're number one. Do we, so we definitely have the most serial.

Like how much, how far, how like, how far is our lead? I think Japan covers them up. I think Asia covers them up and says, no, there's no murders here. Yeah, I think we got quite the head start. If it's a 50 yard dash, celebrate ours. They hide theirs. It's true. We there was a Russia gets after it, don't they?

I think there's a lot of Russian. Russian Chikatel who killed in excess of like 100 people. The guy here is. and he's putting them, he's putting them all in Lady Bird, he puts all the bodies in the same spot. Really? I mean that should- Yeah, the cops just go and fuck, yeah. Let's set up a, let's get some fucking-

True. Trail cams out there. Yeah. It's not that you guys don't even have to wait outside, just put a camera up. Yeah, right by the lake. Go, who's dumping sweet gardenies into the ladybird he's looking at the camera party boys fuck yeah they got me yeah that's a silly creeps out has he you

would think that if they knew where he's dumbing them that you would think that would be it'd be kind of easy put a a camera there and. What is it? The United States apparently has had a 3,615 total serial killers, second place is Russia with 196. Damn. That's quite a lead. I think that also could do with law enforcement here.

Catching. At least investigating. I think if you're, you know, and this is starting in what, like the 60s, 70s is when serial killers started getting rowdy. Yeah, I mean, they were happening before then. Yeah, but I mean noted, like getting caught and being like in the news.

We had media and people looking out for it. We have more school. You could be in the middle of fucking Russia killing people. No one would ever go village to village. They go, yeah, that guy's gone. Chickatella was doing that, though. The Russian serial killer. But we have more like shooters.

We have more obvious as we have all them guns. But you know, the guns thing, what's interesting is Canada has pretty much the same amount of guns per capita as the US. Really? And they're not shooting people like we shoot people. That's interesting. I wonder what the hell it is. Red food coloring, red food dye.

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, maybe it is just. Too much MTV? What's your theory? Too much Beavis and Butthead in South Park. Marilyn Manson. I think it's food we'll be eating McDonald's. Yeah, I was going to say too, and chicken nuggets.

I was just thinking the same thing. You do get nuts if you have nuggets. Dipping your fries into a Frosty. Yeah, you go, I should kill that bitch. This reminds me of a knife into a hooker. My theory on McDonald's, it's all made out of the same substance. It's just at different temperatures. Now, I could be right. Soylent Green.

I mean, I should add that to. Would you would your generation know what Soylent Green is? I've heard of it. It was that one stop shop. Like you could just drink the shake and replace food basically. No, actually, it was it was a movie where the population had kind of escalated and. They were recycling people the visa visa, the lunch, breakfast and dinner.

They have a thing called Soylent that I sort of got is it's like a meal or place. It was it was a Charlton Heston movie. Actually, it's kind of fucked up the name of the shake after that. Yeah, it was before we became president of the NRA damn Yeah, I don't know that is a mystery to ponder. Why would we have the more most serial killers our rough competitive edge? I bet we have the most of literally everything true the best I bet we have I bet we have the most pedophiles We I bet we got it on lock. Everything. Best slam donks. Most slam donks.

True. Everyone is. Yeah, everyone in their own way has to aspire to greatness. You got to do something crazy. Well, what's interesting is the United States, I think, is the most spiritual country and the most material country. There's more spiritual options here. Then I think anywhere else. And but yet it's there's also a rampant materialism. Yeah. It's kind of interesting. Yeah, maybe all that materialism begets that, you know, you go, well, I need all this shit. I need to find some. What your materialism begot me starting a podcast.

So it's it's kind of interesting. I'm a really bad speller. I was really dyslexic as a kid and I can't really spell. If it wasn't for spell check. Yeah. There's no way I could have been a professional writer. So I was at a buddy's place and he had one of those Macs and he put spell check on and he said, and I watched the spell check correct all the words. I thought I got to get one of those.

So I got a Mac. And then I moved to New York and I'd covered this conference on genetic engineering. And I was writing an article about telomeres. They're like the egglets on the end of your chromosome. And every time a cell divides, the telomere shortens. And that's what determines your obsolescence. So I plugged telomere into her search engine. This is even before Google. And then there was all these hits on telomeres. And I got a bunch of information about it and I was able to write the article. But as soon as I saw those tips on hits on telomeres, I said, I got to get one of those. That kind of was a Freudian. Yeah.

And then I did your tits. That's and then I did your podcast and you told me how much money you make and I said, I gotta get one of those. You saw our tits. You saw our sweet tits. Hell yeah. Well let's get some closing arguments here.

What are you thinking about? What do you wanna close on? Watergate, Epstein? Future of the country. I would say your listeners go to Epstein Justice and check us out. And be helpful if you bought my Watergate book. Actually, it'd be helpful if you bought any of my books.

And it's good to be back with you guys. Yeah, hell yeah, man. Thanks for coming. Thank you. Awesome.