Mayday Plays - Doomed to Repeat, Arc 1 Debrief 1 (Live Audio)

Episode Date: February 5, 2021

*SPOILERS AHEAD* The MDRP gang sit down and chat about the first 4 episodes of their Delta Green campaign, Doomed to Repeat. Find out how Mayday formed, made their characters, and character secrets yo...u'll get nowhere else! This is live audio from the original Twitch stream of the conversation on January 29th. CAST • Aaron • Allegra • Amanda • Caleb • Eli • Zakiya • Sergio MUSIC & SOUND EFFECTS • “Eye of the storm” original theme by Aaron A. Pabst IRONSWORN LINKS • Ironsworn (https://www.ironswornrpg.com/) MAYDAY ROLEPLAY LINKS • Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/maydayrp/) • Twitter (https://twitter.com/maydayroleplay7) • Mayday website (https://www.maydayroleplay.com/) • Patreon (patreon.com/maydayrp/)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to the debrief. I am Sergio your handler and with me is made a roleplay. We are so excited to be here discussing with you guys the first arc of our Delta Green campaign titled doomed to repeat. We'll talk about how we got started as a group. You'll get to know the agents better and we'll have a very special section on how to shear sheep. There's a lot to cover. There are 11 episodes in the span of this first arc. In this episode, we're going to discuss everything up until the start of reverberations, our historical scenario. So that's episodes 0 to 3-ish. If you haven't listened yet, you may want to step out because there are going to be spoilers abound and really none of what we're going to talk about is going
Starting point is 00:00:55 to make any sense to you. But if you've not heard the episodes, you are in luck because they are available to listen on any platform that you listen to podcasts. So listen to it, then you can come back and then you can hear all the juicy details. So we've collected questions submitted from folks on Instagram, Twitter, our Patreon Discord, and we've come up with a few ourselves to ask each other. If you asked a question and it doesn't come up, it's probably being saved for another episode. We'll also be looking out for questions from you during this stream. So if you think of a good one while watching, drop it in the chat and we'll answer it probably on the next episode. We should mention that this is not live.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Yes, this is not live. We're probably all in the chat right now. Oh, we're totally spying. So I think that's everything I need to go over. I think what we should do is pass it off to Caleb, also known as Agent Merritt, for our first couple of questions. Absolutely. I just first wanted to say a big thank you to everyone who's been listening at home and for this experience so far. I mean, I couldn't have asked for a better first few months doing this. The first question that we're going to have tonight, guys, comes from Instagram. It's from Megan. And it's a pretty simple one that I thought we could take a dive into and answer in depth. Where did the name Mayday Roleplay come from? I mean, I think we can all speak that it
Starting point is 00:02:45 came from some shared, I don't know. I don't know if you'd call it shared trauma or shared experience, whatever it is. I would. I would. We were a part of a project that fell through, unfortunately, that was looking to do a lot of what we're doing here, which is actual play content that tried to have a message, tried to be as cinematic as possible, and tried to accomplish a lot. Unfortunately, that fell through. But we found that in the pieces there, I mean, all of us gelled really well together. We all wanted the same things, and we all had the same belief over what had happened in the situation. And so we all came together. And well, the old project was called SOS, which is a common emergency call and everything like that.
Starting point is 00:03:35 So we just pivoted. We had a name vote along series of votes on names that we'll probably dive into in a second here. And eventually we thought, well, we'll just spin it on its head and go with that same idea of helping people and saving the day. And, you know, instead of SOS, we went with Mayday. I also feel like it doesn't help that we're like the most chaotic group of motherfuckers there are. And so it's like, OK, we need help. We need help for ourselves now, please. Oh, yeah. Definitely. To our purpose, it's never quite sure who needs the help. We need help from ourselves, though, which implies that we're just in like this constant downward spiral. That's usually when you're yelling Mayday, Mayday. That's what it is. We're
Starting point is 00:04:23 piloting a crashing plane. Spoilers for a future debrief. Oh, there you go. But I thought it might be fun for all of us to take a look at this old, like, shitty excel sheet that we put together. What are some of the highlights? July. This was one of the highlights. Right here. Second option we ever came up with is, look at us. We're role playing. That was that was Caleb. That was you. Yeah. No, I think I don't know. I think it was Zach. I'm almost positive. It was Zach. We were spitballing. We were trying to get him out. Amazing. Yeah. Moderate role play. That's a good one. Moderate role play. To the point. Just a lie. Just a lie. Really there's some other ones there that like
Starting point is 00:05:17 web friends. Web friends is my favorite. Right? Almost. Almost. Almost like this close. That was at the time when we'd all met in person once. And the funny thing is, once, ever, Aaron. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, web friends came from a joke off of Webkins, because we put up here that a possibility was Neopets to the podcast. Yes. Which. Fantastic. I so don't remember this stuff. Whiz with a Z because Diana Ross deserves it. Thank you. That one was low whiz. Wait, that was the whole name? Low whiz was the whole thing. Whiz with a Z because Diana Ross deserves it. Oh, yeah, that too. Yeah. I feel like we just made a, I'm sorry. Go ahead. No, I just feel like we made a like terrible names just so that we could
Starting point is 00:06:08 just put Mayday Ford as the name. We did. I really think that we all collectively agreed, but we didn't want to say it. Right. Right. Equally bad names up. I think we could meditate on like the conceptual strength of Jeff has a project. That could have been some whole entity. Yeah. We are all gay. Some of us were against that one. Yeah, this was literally just us circling the drain until we finally landed on. We came up with Mayday first right shortly after. We need to brainstorm. It was funny because when we took this vote, we had already named the Google drive Mayday role play. So we were already sort of done. Classic table top overthinking. Was that also the day
Starting point is 00:07:01 that we sat down for like four hours and just took care of like all the trademarks? Yeah, that was the day. That was the same day that we paid to be friends. Absolutely. We were a little punchy at that point. We did. There's also we are not a funny group. We are another great one. Well, that's true. You remember them. It's bad. I remember them being a little bit better. They're bad. They're bad. You know what? There are some good ones. Look, low wisdom is a great great one. I thought low wisdom was right up there and hope throws. I'm still an advocate for hope thoughts. I was going to say spin off. Hope that. Thank you. We also had well extemporaneous contingency. I'm just afraid of how complex that is unnecessarily. I don't even think I could say
Starting point is 00:07:47 that. No, I don't. The thing is, I think we like that one for a period. I remember being shocked to that we were about that one. Holy shit. There's no way anybody's gonna listen to this shit. I can't say it. This is a result of the source.com deep diving. And I can't remember what the original words were. Yeah, but that's how we got there. It was. Oh, I think it was improv group. I think you literally typed in improv group into the source and we got extemporaneous contingency. And did they also try to like use all of the letters of our names in some way? Yeah, I think I think we beat this this name thing. Okay, okay. Reminisce about names forever. So, um, I thought, you know, we were coming
Starting point is 00:08:37 off names saying we're going into some more fun territory. I thought, let's continue this vibe here. I want to know you guys can play any other perennial agent besides your own. And this counts for Sergio, too. Who do you play in perennial if you're not playing yourself? All right, let's go in like alphabetical order. So, Aaron first. You know, honestly, gotta go with merit. Too wild. I would love to see it. Interesting that you made the choice. I think I just like, if I had to do, if I had to do someone other than Sam L, I just got to go polar opposite.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah, otherwise. That's true. Okay. Oh, I'm honored. Also, I enjoy kicking my own ass, so. Oh, frick. I think, I think it'd be hide because I think I really want to play, I think, like, I have a whole thing about pilots being like super attractive. Why am I not surprised by that? You shouldn't be honest. Are you like, takes a lot of skill and really into keys, too? Like anybody with a key collection like Poe Dameron. Oh, yeah. Okay. So like, all right, I want to be a pilot. I want to be cool and hot. Plus, hide's like a badass. And I like hide even though we have our shoes. Oh, do you? Oh, do you? Well, I like hide. Maybe Tuck doesn't right now.
Starting point is 00:10:21 That's true. That's for debrief number three. If I had to choose another agent play, I could not do any justice, but I just think warp is adorable. And I gotta say, I would never, I couldn't, I'm not, I'm not gonna deny, I would totally wreck that character or that role. So there's only the key who can do justice. No, no spoilers. Don't worry about it. We're gonna do spoilers. This is the show to do it. So yeah, yeah. She wrecked herself. If you haven't, if you haven't listened to the whole arc, why, why would you be watching this? I don't think I'm saying anything bad. I'm just saying I could not do justice, but warp is amazing.
Starting point is 00:11:10 And if I could, I would be warp. Appreciate that. You know what? I think I'd go, it was really hard for me because I was thinking of it while it was writing the question. And originally I was going to say warp, but I'm in the same vein as Amanda. I don't think I could knock it out of the park like Zach has been doing. I don't know that I could find the complexity to it. So I definitely dig into talk, I think. I think talk has a lot of internal struggle that I really resonate with. And I mean, they have so much prior history in the game itself. It'd be so much fun to play with those circumstances, I think. And the two of you instantly had an interesting relationship, I think. Tuck and Merritt just
Starting point is 00:11:54 kind of gelled as a good A to Z between the two of you. Exactly. And they're so hot and cold so far. I mean, at times they're so easy to work with each other when the heat is on. But as soon as that pressure released, as they realized just how different they are again, and man, it's fucking gone. They're screaming in hotel lobbies. Love it. I'd probably be Boomer just because Boomer has the same energy that I have in terms of sarcasm and bite. So I'm willing to jump down on that shit. But the only thing, though, I would take care of my fiancé. I would text her as well. Okay, I didn't want to say this because we were giving you compliments, but I have some issues with, I mean, we can go about this
Starting point is 00:12:48 all day. Oh man. I would have been keeping shutters. The debrief was really good until Eli and Merritt just started fighting each other over Zoom. Just roasting each other. Friends, man. You know, asking me to choose which agent I would play is like asking me to choose which child, which of my children I would want to inhabit. Who is it? You're lying if you say you don't have one. I'm not saying that I don't feel kind of the pull from one more than the other. Sometimes I really find everybody so fascinating. I think I have to approach this question with who do I feel like I probably am the most? And I feel like I'm Tuck the most because Merritt would annoy the hell out of me.
Starting point is 00:13:40 But Tuck, and I feel like I have Merritt's headspace a lot of times in the way I try to solve problems. But Tuck is the most trying to balance things. And yeah, there's just something about there. There's something very Captain America-esque about Tuck. So I really kind of just like that character. But that's just me trying to think of who I feel like I am the closest to as a person. You know what? You're totally right, though, because Tuck is sort of violently against all lads trying to drag us all back together from either side. That's our median point, I think. You're right, Merritt has no balance whatsoever. The fucker's tipping over wherever he goes. Yeah, I think I would, I was going to say Tuck first. But I think it would be really fun to
Starting point is 00:14:35 play Samio, because I think what you- That makes me scared for music. The choices that you make, it's like walking into a room and seeing a tiger and thinking, I'm going to stand on the opposite side of the room of the tiger. And that's what most people do. Samio does not ever do that. And that would be really fun to make that choice to like jump on the tiger every time. That would be really cool. You know, something worth bringing up about Samio and the way Aaron plays him is, you know, handlers in Delta Green often complain about the fact that players are so afraid to touch anything or read anything or, you know, they don't want to lose their precious
Starting point is 00:15:17 sanity. And so it's so refreshing, at least it seems like a lot of the listeners have mentioned, it's very refreshing to have a character who is willing to take the drug and to push the buttons and to touch the crystals. Jump at the most against it. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I'm excited with you. But as we will come to get to know Samio in future arcs, I think it's actually very justified. Oh, yeah, I'm sorry to see. Yeah. That's a rabbit hole. That's going to be a huge part of arc two for me, I think, is trying to figure out all of your people's secrets. I think that's where the whole Let's Meet Tuck's wife thing comes from. You're never. Oh, let's get ahead of ourselves.
Starting point is 00:16:05 So I believe, Kayleigh, you have another question? I do. But just the idea of getting to know you guys, that's a big part of our team for me, I think. Sergio, on average, what percentage of evidence does perennial perennial casually walk past without discovering? And do you see that percentage changing in our two? It's not so much that you walk past evidence that we hear it and say nothing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, here's why I really like Delta Green, because Delta Green tells you the hand or like, look, don't assume your players are professional at anything. They're not FBI agents. They're not trained assassins. They don't always know how to go about doing things. And the game explicitly says, look, if there's a piece of evidence that that that implies something
Starting point is 00:16:57 or that suggests something, just tell them. And so that's kind of how I approached a lot of the evidence. So you guys never kind of, you never thought less of something that I thought that you needed to think of it. But I think so often we would finish a session, and then all of the realizations would come. Oh, you know, that that was this and that connected to this, you know, that that would always come after the game was over. Much to my chagrin, but we will hopefully improve upon that. It's just, I get it, because when you guys are in the moment, you're just doing your thing. And it's just, there's a lot to absorb. There's a lot of info. And I also like that we always forget all of the epiphanies we've had at like post game.
Starting point is 00:17:42 By the next game, we're like, okay, we've got all this stuff. We know all these things. And then next game comes and we're like, fuck if I know. Yeah, immediately. Yeah. Yeah. We'd like tell each other stuff. We're like this, this game, we're going to be working as a team. We're going to do it right. We're going to really bring it all together and then fuck off. Yeah. I think at the, when we taped the last one, and I remember when we wrapped up and we were just chatting in the 30 minutes, we were all just saying stuff and we're like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, and we were literally solving it all. I could see Sergio like, like I could see your face and you're like, yeah, they didn't do that. Yeah. That's a good
Starting point is 00:18:26 point for next season. You're like, I mean, it was especially hard after the historical session because spoilers, we were all fucking dead. We couldn't do anything about it. I will say one thing. I mean, there are items in your possession currently that you guys don't fully understand. Great. Yeah, of course. Good to hear. This just requires you to sit down and look at it. Can I smoke them? I was going to say. You could smoke anything if you try hard enough. Okay, so Taylor, is that all of them? I have one more, but I'm cool to move on if you guys want to move on. Okay. Aaron, this one's to you. This will be my last one. I know I had some trepidation when creating a character that I knew would inspire controversy with Merrick.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Were you thinking some of the same when you when you came in conceptualizing Samuel or was it just balls to the wall? I'm going to do what I want. No, I like chaos. I like my job is to cause chaos and I caused chaos. That was always the plan. I think it's a real testament to the way you play here and that like it could have easily tipped the scales to either way, but a lot. I mean, a huge majority loves Samuel and all about the character and wanted to know more. I will. I did not set out to make people like me. I will. I will say that I honestly think in any other group with any other game, I think Aaron would be considered that guy, but it just works so well in this group. And I think that we trust each other
Starting point is 00:20:10 enough that I'm not I'm surprised by the choices. Sometimes Aaron makes, but we're not caught off guard because we I don't know how it's happened, but we just come to really trust each other in that way. So so Aaron is is a pleasure to have at the table. And it's so I mean, so much of the first three episodes that we're talking about this session are affected by Samuel's actions. And it never feels forced. It never feels like he's wasting anybody's time. It always brings about an interesting effect to the story. Yeah, yeah, I mean, in that moment where I decided to do the to do the contraband search, part of that is because I knew whatever craziness came up on the other side, me and Aaron could sort of manage it in the moment together. And I think
Starting point is 00:20:59 that's a huge big ups to Aaron and the way that he plays because never do I feel like going into those scenes like oh, we're going to lose the lead or we're going to bury it or whatever. I always feel safe to do fucked up shit with him, which is a testament. Yeah, I will say I didn't expect that. I didn't expect my bag to get searched. That was not that was not on my that was not on my my itemized list of agenda items. But lips. All right, so Amanda, you got any questions for us? Yes. Okay, so I think I actually have two from one from deafing on Instagram. What is something you wish you could tell about your character instead of instead of having to show it? So I'll go first and you guys can think about it really quick. I wish actually let me go last.
Starting point is 00:21:59 All right. I didn't realize you had that option. Amanda, that's not a lot of help. In fact, that's worse than just telling us to go first. All right. All right. I'll do it. I'll do it. I wish that I could I wish I could like show that boomers not always so angry or frustrated because they're actually very, in my opinion, they're funny. They're driven, but they're more funny and relaxed in their element. Having said that, certain people stress on the f out and don't get shit together or act like security when they're supposed to act like security and have the computer tech go and do the murder. But you said you wanted to do that. You volunteered. Hey, hey, hey. You got out of the car. Yeah, that was all your choice. You didn't have to get out of the car. You know what, boomer?
Starting point is 00:22:52 I agree. Where was Stevenson standing at the cabin? You know what Eli? I agree. So fair of shit. It'll be five years from now and I'll still always bring that up. So power is kind of like a really like and actually like one of those people that are like really cool, but you're just catching them like on the worst day ever. It's kind of like that because it's also it's like they want to go home. They don't want to deal with this and I I do. There's a piece of backstory that I think because we have a one shot that we did way back when that actually ties boomer. So it's actually boomer has probably not the best viewpoint of the program because of how it affects them personally. So that's where
Starting point is 00:23:47 that bias kind of comes in. So who's next? Someone else? Oh, fucking. I would I wish. I wish I could tell the tuck like I feel like tuck really wants to be like a part of the chaos and wants to like be a more active like I want to actively go after things. I don't want to actively do things, but I think they feel like they have to keep it all like locked down because there is so much like disparate like I guess disparate energy and like energy going off in all directions. Like they feel like they just have to like dome it and keep it all contained to be like, okay, I have to keep this all together because everyone else is going in different directions.
Starting point is 00:24:31 But I think like tucks, tucks got like a little bit of a chaotic streak in her. And that comes from your backstory as well. Like, you know, we'll go into it in more detail, but tuck is definitely at a point in their life where they are trying to have their cake and eat it to kind of a thing, you know, like like trying to keep up with their wife and like just trying to like trying to keep everything in order when there's a lot like a little like voice in the back of the cup. It's like, you could just do a thing. You could just go off and like just do it yourself. But like, she knows you can't. Oh, shit, I had all that time to think. What is something you wish you could tell about your,
Starting point is 00:25:18 um, I guess it's just that like, you know, I think Sabel has, I think it's probably mostly just a product of like the environment he's in, but like you see him in, in one light. When the reality is that Samuel, he doesn't just have like a split life. He has a, he has a triple life going on. That's how, that's how convoluted like of a life that he leads. I mean, one, one part of him is this weird secret Asian researcher guy. One part of him is like a model like Jesuit priests. The other, the other part of him is, you know, this after dark, drug hopping, party going, kind of, kind of guy. And I think that, you know, like the predominant part of his life is, is definitely more of like the, okay, I'm fundamentally a good person that,
Starting point is 00:26:07 you know, does work to try to help people and build them up. He, he does generally, generally, you know, care about people and trying to make their lives better. I think in, in kind of the more, you know, Delta green program, kind of the more underground part of his life, you don't get to see a lot of that. You get more of kind of like the, you know, like it's easy to see him in that sense and think, okay, this guy's just an asshole. And I wish that I could find a way of kind of projecting that, that other part of him in better. He's, what I love about him is he takes the, you know, the doctrine of, you know, you slap me on my cheek and I'll turn the other one and it disarms the other agents.
Starting point is 00:26:53 So, you know, it's hard to stay mad too long with the San Miguel because he's willing to let you kill him if you want to, you know. Yeah. And he, he almost did. Yeah. Who next? Eli? No, don't give me those eyes of that. No, you don't. I had to think which time. In the, in the tank, I think he's talking about, right? Could be who's to say? Could have been in the tank, could have been in the airplane. Who knows? Oh yeah, I get home. See, there's so many moments. It's hard to pick. Poor sacrificial priest. Like, that there's so many like moments that that could have like come across and it's just like, we don't, we don't get to see it because it's not like the
Starting point is 00:27:36 realm he's living in right now. I think it's cool. No, yeah. There's, there's so much I think about all of us that we've gone through to layer behind the things that we're saying and doing that I don't think is present in a lot of tables and it's the huge enjoyment for me when I sit down is like trying to figure out what Aaron is doing behind what he's doing to us. You know what I mean? And that goes for all the characters. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, that's blanketed completely and I can't wait for, you know, down the line if we live, getting to see that payoff and knowing, you know, well, now I can trace back every decision we've all made. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:21 What about you? Fuck. I think one thing I would want to show about Hyde would be more of like her shitty side because Hyde's got a lot of shit. I feel like Hyde's been really restrained through this whole first arc and then trying to like dodge bullets or like help out. But like there's residual things on the back end. None of you guys know yet that you will find out soon. Maybe. I don't know. Yeah, I have a feeling that Hyde's got as many skeletons as the rest of us easy and if anyone, Merritt has the biggest closet of skeletons. Okay, maybe fashion wardrobe. Merritt is extremely surface level. I promise you. Bruh, you've got a child somewhere.
Starting point is 00:29:14 It will shock you how surface level Merritt is. I promise. Give it time. You'll see he's just as fucked up on the outside as the inside. Teal, what about you? For me, I think it is that, you know, Merritt does not have any ill will towards Perennial whatsoever. In fact, it's hard to see, but from the get go, my idea was that this is a person who loves the people he's around, but has no idea how to show it. I mean, what I'd like to tell them show is that Merritt's like a puppy, dude. He hasn't been house trained. He doesn't know where to put his energy and he's been taught the wrong things and so he does the wrong things. He socially just has no idea how to tell the people he cares about that he cares about them. It comes way less from a point of
Starting point is 00:30:05 I'm here to manage you. I'm here because you're an idiot. I'm here because you're incompetent. Way more of I've been told this is the way you're supposed to act in life. Like a robot, I'm going to act that way, which I think is a lot of what we've been saying here is like we want to tell about the trauma, but it's a hard thing to push outwards. Is it Kia? Oh, yeah. I think there's a lot of the same. Caleb, what you said is that there's a lot of new things that warp is experiencing and she wants to like feel all of those emotions. Like she's she's probably showing maybe like 10 to 15 percent of all of the emotions that she can
Starting point is 00:30:54 and like I'm I'm excited to show more on both sides. Like there's a lot that she can celebrate, but I also like as far as negative emotions go, it's mostly just been fear, but like rage. So I think that'll be I think that's one thing that I wish I could show more. You know what? That's one thing I've been thinking about, Zach, is like a big reason why we all sort of swarm around warp is that so far there's no negative association. Like the rest of us all have something to gripe on the other for doing and so far warp has been the person we've been protecting from that outside source because so far she's just been the source of positivity, right? So that's what I just think, too, is like what happens in arc two and you know that snaps
Starting point is 00:31:41 because obviously we're going to see some tension and and everyone gets a view at what people are like when they're actually, you know, feeling something and breaking down and we can't we can't simplify them to one feeling. You know, I think that'll be really interesting to explore. Yeah, the perennial agents really haven't lost that much sanity comparatively. You know, they don't think anyone's real. Well, people have reached their breaking point, but no one's gotten temporarily insane, I don't think. I mean, warp came in with not a lot left. Yeah, I don't think anyone's got temporarily insane yet. She's got about a quarter worth.
Starting point is 00:32:18 That was a huge, huge moment to find out coming out of that and you casually dropping it to us. That was big. Like I had no idea you were that close. It was crazy. Yeah, I wasn't going to tell you till Sergio acts at the end. I'm just going to find out. Amanda, do you have any other questions? I do. I believe this is more towards you, Sergio, but I'm sure everyone else can elaborate. Can you elaborate on the concept behind the campaign and why do the historical scenarios? Sorry, I read that wrong. And what excited the players most about the historical scenarios?
Starting point is 00:32:55 Okay, I'll start. But I think everybody can definitely be involved in this question. Oh, yeah. Because I basically pitched the idea to you guys and you all agreed to do it and all had your own reasons as to why I think you found it interesting. So when the pandemic started, I picked up Delta Green. I started listening to podcasts like Black Project Gaming and stuff. And I just kind of fell in love with the system. I liked how simple it was. It was a simpler version of Call of Cthulhu, but it was super lethal and very evocative. I started reading the scenarios and I was just stunned at how well written they were. And as I started to read the Handler's Guide,
Starting point is 00:33:33 I realized there's so much lore. And what's cool specifically about the lore is that the lore came about from the creators of the game playing the game. They would write scenarios. They would write short stories and fiction. And this incredibly deep and almost century long lore of this group called Delta Green kind of came about. And I really liked that about it. And I wanted to do a game. Since we were going to be streaming or excuse me, since we were going to be doing a podcast, I wanted to do something that was like that would narratively kind of grab you. And obviously as players, you know, like finding things out, finding clues, finding out the dirty history of the group that you work for, I just thought was really evocative. And
Starting point is 00:34:21 when I thought of that idea and I thought in conjunction with it of kind of whenever possible fitting in historical scenarios, something about that made me I knew immediately that you guys were going to like that. You know, you were going to like the aspect of playing different characters, etc. And just kind of the the chance to show more about Delta Green that you don't often get a chance to see. That was at least my reasoning behind trying to do it. It was super cool when you pitched it to us just like the the concept of like, and then we're going to and then one week you're just going to be someone else. You know, I feel like that never happens in games unless you're like unless your PC is dead,
Starting point is 00:35:04 you you stay like a consistent one singular person. And that's that's really fun too. But like the fact that you were like, yeah, and then one week you're going to be someone from the 1980s for like three weeks, and then you'll come back and be, you know, agent warp or whatever, especially in especially in stuff, you know, in shows like this, I mean, there's not to my knowledge, there aren't really any others where you have people switching characters up as as much as we are. Yeah. And in fact, I think that's probably one of the things that's going to be more of, I mean, that's something that I think is going to define us going forward is that like, unlike some of the other, you know, platforms out there that do similar things, you know, they have one
Starting point is 00:35:41 character that they run with for years and years and years, and we're switching every few weeks. Yeah, it's also kind of nice because we get to come back to back to like a same home base like our perennial care. I could really get the sense that you guys enjoyed coming back to the perennial agents after being away from them, because so much had happened in just, you know, four episodes. Yeah. Yeah. That's one thing is like, it's not it's not a time travel show. Only I guess only for us, it's time travel. And it's what makes it terrifying is like in time travel media, there's like the understanding that if you fuck with the timeline too much, there will be consequences for it later. We've eliminated the possibility of all of our players
Starting point is 00:36:23 ever acknowledging that. So they just fuck with the timeline ceaselessly. Yeah. And it's so good and so fun. And you know what, I think it solves a lot of the issues that comes with playing games like Call of Cthulhu and Delta Green long term, because you do see character death and tragedy and trauma and retiring someone a lot. And so these historical scenarios give us a chance to let our main show prosper for a little bit longer in their uncovering these people who were lost to time. And I think the biggest thing for me is, you know, when you came to me and you pitched those three concepts of what we might do for the Delta Green campaign, this one hit me immediately because while it was exploring a part of the lore I had never heard of when it came to Delta Green,
Starting point is 00:37:09 you know, the stuff that was lost to time and it was melding the sort of what Call of Cthulhu does and what Delta Green does and allowing us to write our own lore, our own history for the people that were actually playing. That was super interesting to think that, you know, something Oliver could do could change the way that Merritt acts, you know, 40 years later. It's always super cool to think of the possibilities of how you're going to affect your own game that way. That was kind of an unexpected consequence of the historical scenarios is your perennial agents very much reflected on what happened and what you could learn. And I wasn't really thinking that that's something you guys would gain from it. I thought, you know, the perennial agents would be
Starting point is 00:37:55 so focused on the details of the case or whatever. It was refreshing to see you also kind of taking a back, especially with what had happened to perennial up to that point. Yeah, I also like that we can we can like, what was I saying? Like the like the idea that I can have like Rose knowledge in the back of my head, it just sits there and like, maybe Tuck knows it, maybe Tuck doesn't, but like I still know it. So it's I think that's like a really like stressful, but fun, like extra knowledge to have back there like that Rose would know this would talk and then I have to think about like, okay, would she have read this when she was like found this? Nope, Tuck doesn't know it. Great. It's just useless knowledge for me. There's also that like brand new perspective to characters
Starting point is 00:38:37 that we once knew intimately like fluke was the bane of all of our existence. And now for merit, it's this what not to do what not to become guide. And that was that was really interesting. Yeah. And so we become like legends to ourselves in our own rights. And that's just exceptional to consider going forward in art to you know, how was the stuff we did yesterday going to change what we do tomorrow? Yeah. Well, Amanda, that's it for the questions from social media. I have a couple though. So okay, I know this was kind of asked you earlier, Serge, but I'm going to elaborate. Was there a time that we really derailed your plan? Like just straight up be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I did not begin episode one with the plan at all of having a neighbor pull up and and witness whatever was going on. Yeah. The only reason that happened is because I'm sitting there listening to you guys, you know, dragging this rotting corpse and laying gasoline down. You literally just unloaded like two clips into this body. And I'm just thinking there's no way somebody doesn't just pull up and check and see what the hell's going on. And that of course just took us down a whole, I mean, literally like half an episode to kind of get over lasting consequences. Yeah. So you're saying you derailed us? I mean, I warned you guys, I warned you that mistakes would have consequences and
Starting point is 00:40:16 fire off a bunch of bullets. That's not a part. It doesn't have to be in a game, Serge. We don't need consequences. We will have our listeners, I think, if I was just like, ah, they're fine. Well, that's the funny thing is I think everything that happened at that trailer sort of defined the group. Like following that, we all had pretty defined understandings of each other and how we were going to look at perennial moving forward. Even I think some of like the most revealing like character pieces that came up were just in the car ride back. And you know, the other thing I wasn't planning was for you guys to follow through with murdering the Stevenson's. I thought, ah, you know, the guy didn't really see much. He saw the car. He saw
Starting point is 00:41:02 some Latin looking women as I constantly say that everyone describes the women that he saw. But I don't think I don't think it I don't think much would have really come of it in the long run if you had just left, but you decided to take him out. I love this news now. I had justified in my mind, you know, what could the guy really say he probably wouldn't have gotten the license plate? But we just we just go from zero to murder. Yeah, I love how that's our default response. You know what, I think I feel a little hold on. I need a process that I'm a little kind of like not in. I was told to protect research and the program at all costs. Yeah, at all costs. Yeah, do not don't start with me. That's what that's what Mallory told us at the end of it.
Starting point is 00:42:01 You know, I mean, the right thing. I'm not an FBI agent. I'm not a professional. Time out. Hold on. We know for a fact. We know for a fact how this game goes. You leave one little thing because hold on. Wasn't there not, I don't know, a dead dog that no one everyone just walked past and don't you dare tell me that didn't come back and bite us all in the ass. So how do we not know Marlene would not just know Marlene would have went when it went to that fucking guy would have murked the whole family, at least in our version. The kids are live elsewhere. I like that. We know. We know. We know. We know. We know. We know. We know. The weirdest justification for our actions. You're right. We did do the right thing, guys. Marlene would have
Starting point is 00:42:48 killed him. Marlene was right there. She would have murked them all. As far as I'm concerned, at least the two kids are in a safe space somewhere else. Oh God. I love you. I'm gonna let you believe that there, Boomer. You know what? You can't judge Padre. You cannot judge Padre. All right. What else, Amanda? Yes, okay. We'll get there. We'll get to the sheep farm. I have two questions and I'll just wrap it up for everybody because we're on the theme of murder. Oh, sorry. I like that. That was good. Do you think and all honestly, could your character murder everyone in the group? Could they do that? No. Absolutely not. Tuck. No. I don't think Samuel has it in him to kill anybody. Yes. I think that's the only thing I agree with, right? Like,
Starting point is 00:43:43 I could definitely kill all of us. I don't think Marlene would fucking die. I don't even think he could pull, you know, get himself to pull the trigger once, so. Oh, no. I disagree with that statement. Really? I think Marlene will be fully prepared to kill people very soon. I think he's on the walk. I think he used to, but he would hesitate and that hesitation would probably be bad. That's what I'm saying is I think he would hesitate. I mean, he didn't hesitate with the trailer because he understood the stakes of what happens if we get caught. I mean, he's been coded and coded again of what happens when the program cannot help you, cannot defend you and, you know, what happens to your people. But with you guys, it's different. There's no,
Starting point is 00:44:34 there's no stakes in killing you unless someone's told them and explicitly has to happen. Even then, I don't know. It's like I said, it's the puppy thing. It all comes down to loyalty with him. I don't know that he could kill you guys unless he, you know, failed a bunch of sanity checks. We'll get there. Is it here? Yes. All right, moving on. Probably the first one. Yeah. Any more, man? And it's yes for boomer, by the way. Even me? No, no, no, no, no. If anyone would talk would be the one probably I would let go. Hold on a second. Yeah, what the? That's your question. You crafted. You can't, you can't draw a door out of your own question. What about all the times? Are we talking about
Starting point is 00:45:33 the circumstance of like, could we emotionally bring ourselves to kill all of us? Or are we talking like emotionally and physically get through all of us? Oh, I thought it was just take them out. Yeah. I would hesitate with tech, but everyone else. Fucking. I love that. Our friendship is. No, no, no, no. But you do actually make her you'll I'll say this. You guys are really funny to her, especially Samuel. Oh, that's good. Good for a laugh. Yeah, really funny. This is all we got, guys. Obviously. It's a key. I have a question for you. Yeah. What is Warp's real honest opinion of everybody? Oh, this just turned out like they're daresome shit right now.
Starting point is 00:46:24 It did. What do you think? Oh, no. Do you like anybody in the grip? I'm like, let me let me see without. Oh, man. Okay. She likes everybody. I'll say that. What's the opinion? I want individual characters. Yes. I think Boomer and Tuck are super confusing because they have, in her words, humans that frequently contact them. And that seems dangerous. But like, cool. Also, Tuck stopped Warp from doing something very stupid in the early episodes. So that's like helpful. That's good. Hyde is terrifying. But also like, I think Warp interprets Hyde's relationship with keys differently than maybe what it is. I think it's just like, I really like skis. Like,
Starting point is 00:47:24 cool. Maybe like, I'll get her keys. We'll get you another key. So Warp just thinks that Hyde has like a hyperfix nation on keys. Oh, wow. Because who is she to talk shit about? No, yeah. It's like, well, it's the key when we pull over. You're going to get hide those little commemorative souvenir key chains with the like names on them. You are going to every state we go to, please. Oh, you're going to get a key mail to you every year from here on out. Oh, that's adorable.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Oh, that's an award. Kind of creepy, honestly. It's great. I know. I'll know where it comes from. Yeah. I think Samuel is based on one through four, dangerous and confusing. But fine. I think the end of the season is completely different. Merit is like the experience. This is going to sound mean, but when you, you know how when you buy like frozen food and you bake it and you throw the instructions away, but then you go back because
Starting point is 00:48:32 you do not know the instructions. The experience of talking to Merit is so important. And you like, she understands that it would be cool of her to ignore him, but also like, I need those instructions. Serves a purpose. I don't think that's mean at all. I think that is so indicative of their relationship. It's like, yeah, because nobody else comes back to the trash to check. God damn it. Okay. I have one from our good Patreon friend. He who wants jeans. This is a question for Aaron. How much of Samuel was drawn from personal experience?
Starting point is 00:49:23 Pretty much all of them. I mean, I don't, I don't do like, I don't do, you know, I'm not like a, like a gun slain or a drug slaining. I got my characters mixed up for a second. I'm not, you know, I'm not out here, you know, doing elephant legs of cocaine or anything. But like, I don't know how much I want to, you know, get into Samuel's backstory because it might come on. It's probably going to become increasingly relevant down the road because he knows some shit. But I mean, you know, he's like, I think for me, like Samuel was a lot of like, you know, personally, like, you know, I can, I consider myself to be like a Christian person. But, you know, I'm trying, you know, like,
Starting point is 00:50:13 in kind of growing up and, you know, moving past childhood and into adulthood and seeing like the, you know, the way that the world is working right now, you know, there's some serious discrepancies that I have to like consolidate in my head between like what I like see on the news of how, you know, other people who wear that label are behaving versus the way that I was like taught to live and the way that I actively try to live my life. And I think for me, you know, Samuel was kind of a way to iron some of that out in a way. Like, you know, okay, like how, you know, like how can I process this, this discrepancy versus what I'm seeing and what I was told to do and how I try to live my life as well as just, you know, I mean, I consider myself to be a
Starting point is 00:51:01 fairly scientifically minded person, you know, I mean, obviously I went to engineering school, you know, I have a scientific background. But like, I usually think that there's like a rational explanation for things, but at the same time, I mean, I've seen and experienced some things in my life that I just really can't explain on, you know, in logical terms. So that's kind of a convoluted answer, I guess, maybe maybe a little bit more cryptic than I would have I would have liked. But the short answer is yes, Samuel is is very, very much drawn from personal experience. And I think that's why kind of just it works so well, because you do have kind of experience with the character. And, and I do find something interesting, in a way, Samuel's just like that
Starting point is 00:51:45 one priest that realize, as long as nobody's looking, I could do what I want like, and there's certainly something that as we become adults, we realize, oh, yeah, you know, certain drugs aren't that bad. They're not they're actually quite enjoyable. And the pleasures of the flesh are really quite enjoyable. And so this, this, you know, a character that holds to the values, but kind of is experimenting with what he views as moral and immoral is very interesting. And perfect for Delta Green. Yeah. To be clear, I do not do cocaine. Slap a not yet on that, please. It's a long life we're living here. And maybe a lifestyle might get a little crazy in the coming years. So Caleb, what you're telling me is the best is yet to come.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Yes, you and I, you and Coke all of 2021. That's our new goal. All right. So I have a couple of quick questions. And this first one is in relation to Episode Zero. So during that first session, I could really tell that everyone kind of come with their A game. They came ready. But once Caleb started speaking, there seemed to be a little bit of a panic amongst the group. At least I got that in a sense. Could you guys explain what was happening in your mind as Caleb started his, uh, his introduction? I was, I was thinking, what the fuck, man? We were planning that shit. Now what? Now we got to sit here and come up with a fucking monologue in like two minutes. You don't know what that monologue is. It's like a five, six minute monologue,
Starting point is 00:53:28 my God. When you started describing your apartment, I had to rewatch every episode of House Hunters in my brain. Like I need to build a room very quickly. It was that was the panic. It's like everything needs to be significant. I felt like a kid who wasn't ready for a test at all. I was like, whoa, shit. We got the plan. I don't even take notes, guys. It was so good. So good. I think it kind of made everybody like, oh, shit. Uh, you know, everyone's introductions were so great. I mean, especially, uh, Aaron's, who it sounds like was mostly improvised, at least on the fly. That was just terror fueling, fueling, fueling me. I was purely fueled by terror. Oh, okay. I was so damn glad I went before you, Caleb. Because I was
Starting point is 00:54:24 like, if I had, if I had listened to that and then tried to say words, I think my anxiety and my panic would have just been like, you don't know any words. You know, no words in English. You can only just babble. I even babbled. Well, I think you can hear life. I think that's maybe one of the most nervous I felt like, I mean, I performed for most of my life. But then in that moment, I don't know. I felt so raw because I'd never performed playing a tabletop game before. And I think the reason why I wrote so much is I knew that if I didn't sell merit correctly at second one, everybody would fucking hate him. And I mean, part of the, the glamour is disliking him, but I never wanted people to hate him for the character or, or, you know, what I created, but
Starting point is 00:55:14 instead hate him for the choices he was making. And so I was sitting there and I was writing out these bullet points of everything I think this crazy excelled sheet of a person would do. I don't know, it conglomerated and then it became a lot longer than I intended, for sure. It was fantastic. Like, don't get us wrong. It was fucking great. Thank you. But it also threw us all into a spiral. I think I was the one that went after him. Yeah, I think so. Because I remember going, oh, fuck. And then I took a piece of paper and then I was writing stuff down.
Starting point is 00:55:50 I legitimately like, I think it's right after I described redoing my apartment twice. You can find a hiccup in my voice because I looked up at the video camera and all of you guys looked terrified. And I thought, I thought I fucked up. I thought I had no. No, no. God, it was the opposite. It was like, how did he narratively weave in grout? Well, all right. So I have another question. And all of these are kind of from the DM's perspective. What were you all thinking was in the septic tank before you opened it? Oh, ghost. Nothing good.
Starting point is 00:56:31 You know, I honestly thought it was his wife because, you know, we got to his apartment and there was a picture of them together and everything. And as we found out that they hadn't picked up the car, I kept thinking like, well, hey, like this is a man who was unloved. And so there had to be some sort of connection that he had if he's going away for vacations and everything. By the time that we were aware of the septic tank and they had, you know, found that the sink was unplugged in all those moments, I was like, can't be fucking anything else other than this fucking, this poor guy's wife. Yeah. Yeah. I genuinely just went, there's gas, there's a septic tank and there's crying. And if something's in there that has been surviving
Starting point is 00:57:19 that long, light the bitch on fire and let it go. I was like, nothing good guys. I was the same exact way. The letter said, do it. We're fucking doing it. No one saw horror movies. No one saw Evil Dead. Like get out of here. No one has not seen one fucking horror movie. I was just like, oh, let's go open. I think in the next episode, Warp said that she suspected that it might be another green box, right? Yeah. Did I say that? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was something Warp probably thought it was important information. We had only experienced one of their Delta Green baddie before them. So I thought it was a variation of that, like some sort of ghost. But I think it was like, okay, well, there's shit in there that like files or something. I was until the
Starting point is 00:58:04 crying. I mean, that's a pretty good. You'd guess. Yeah. I was uniquely surprised that all of us wanted to go in there. I was like, holy shit. I'm sorry. Some of us werep and wanted to at least open and talk and all these things. And I was like, fuck, like, guys, we're going to die in session one. I watched enough horror films to know not to do that. I don't even have to play this game to know not to do this fucking shit. Well, what if someone was down there? What if Bowman was the weird one and there was a human down there? Bye. Thank you. No fucking salutes to you, brother. I'm sorry. Okay, my last question. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. I definitely had flashbacks to one. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was funny. Your interpretation of what was going on
Starting point is 00:59:16 is what peppered the whole scene. You thought for sure there was some kind of invisible entity in there. Yeah. All right. My last question is about the sheep farm. Obviously, the sheep farm was a big diversion. What were you guys suspecting as players was happening in that scene? Did you literally just think it was a quick diversion? Did you suspect something unnatural might happen? I was curious to why Warp wanted to go there so badly. That was the one thing. This is a side tangent. The law is after us. There are things happening and we need to go to this farm. Why? What's so important? Well, we learned it was the wolf. I really would have enjoyed that if there was a supernatural component to the sheep. That would have been wild. Oh, really? What? You didn't
Starting point is 01:00:11 think Samuel had enough over there? If Samuel could have had that happen and also he gets to excise something, I mean, that's a win-win situation for him that day. She excised something from you. So anyway, Caleb, what did you think of some pain? That's it. Well, when you initially gave it to us, I thought it was like you and Zacchia getting together to give us a breathing point, like a crack of a spine to move away. Because we had just seen such heady stuff. I was starting to realize, hey, we've been through so much and none of us like each other at all. You gave this idea and I was like, okay, so this is maybe where we can develop some character. We can fall in love with each other a little bit and find an answer as to how we're going to
Starting point is 01:01:01 operate as a team. Little did I know you cleverly placed blowjob trap and I've been so I should know. You hit the nail on the head that that was my intention as the handler was. They'd gone through something so grim. I can't just have another bunch of episodes where they're just kind of wallowing in this. I had to kind of break it up a little bit. So it was completely railroaded, but I think it helped, like you said, kind of bring everybody together in a way. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think it was our first little baby step to actually speaking to each other and trying to find an answer, which I hope we have more sheep farms in the future, even if it means I have to look away from what's in my house.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Just because. All right, so we're going to pass it off to Eli. I know I was your question. Cool. My first question is for those who were involved with Marlene and her predictions. What was your first initial impression of that? And now that you have that information of those other people, what do you do? Do you have any plans to use that in a certain way? Or what? Bold of you to assume. I remember. You guys need a refresher because I know fucking. So this is the first time that anyone will get to see the merit notebook. Yeah, the whole that shit up. Unfortunately, these are out of character. So you won't be able to,
Starting point is 01:02:34 you know, see merits, actual thoughts on them comes with a little. That's how you do all the budgeting. Literally. I used the fucking. So Blake was called a charlatan. Of course, Haley was warned of the things that follow. Kona was worried about the thing that killed in the desert. And then God, I think it's God's. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. The Oracle that never aged. Yeah, that was when she said, Haley, I know the names of the things you took in the night. I was like, it was just blue screen. I was like, no, no, I can't. I can't. I can't handle this. So Tuck certainly can't handle this. So we're just not going to think about it right now.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Yes. But then like hearing, hearing like you three also, I was like, okay, like, especially with hide now after, after everything that I've done, I think that's going to be maybe something Tuck tries to like, hey, like, like, like maybe find some common ground with. But no, when that happened, I, I think I stopped to breathe. Yes. Yes. Yeah, that was back when I was still recording in a closet and I had never been more frustrated that I was in a closet and I couldn't like run away. And I went last in that list and it didn't help equally just to scared and frightened. But at the same time, also Warp is waiting to talk about that. Never brought it up. I wanted to bring it up. That was one of
Starting point is 01:04:31 my intentions, especially with the way that Sam L was acting and behaving after that when we went to the green box. I was hoping to use that as a way to maybe have him settled the fuck down a little bit, but it never ever ended panning out in the way because Merit did his job inspection and it was like fucking like ramping it up. We went from this moment to killing a man and his wife to then having one of us take supernatural drugs like because of an illegal contraband search. Yeah. But I wanted to like pull pull Sam outside via like, yo, Blake, let's let's settle the fuck down a little bit. Circle it, Blake. I also wanted to Google like Sam was the peak of my interest out of all of that. So I was like, I need to get to a point where I can
Starting point is 01:05:18 actually Google him because I really don't think Sam L is a priest. It's the one thing that I will keep even into arc two. I really don't think that's a pretty elaborate. That's a pretty elaborate room. Yeah. Because I mean, you and me slept in a church in the basement. But I'm still like standing in that basement looking back and forth like he's not. There's no way. On one hand, it was so satisfying to see how you guys were freaking out over it, but it was also very frustrating because I knew at least half of you wanted to like interact with this fact. But you know, the thing just moved in a different direction and she died quickly. So I didn't want to interact with it. I popped caps in it. That was why I didn't. That was exactly
Starting point is 01:06:03 why I didn't shoot her because I was like, she knows things about my backstory that I don't fucking know. Oh, this might overhaul like it might override everything. And I think Tuck might like if things had gone differently, Tuck might have like made a bad choice. Yeah, I appreciated the tucker hesitated because it makes sense. I'm still real upset about it. I was like, man, they're gonna. What is it? Do you want to say? What is it? No, I don't want to say. One like you want to say it. Back story right now. Absolutely, I don't. But there are I'm personally drawing lines from things that we've seen to things that I know. And I think it's I think it'll come to fruition at some point. I'm not going to say it right now, though. Okay,
Starting point is 01:06:48 what's another one you like? Let's see. I want to talk about your as bonds. Bonds are important. What is what is the one bond that you guys have on your list? That is the thing that tethers your character. Oh, do you really want me to answer that question? Yes, right? It has to be. I hope it's somebody else. It's the strip club. Like, I think Ruth was probably the first one that I started blowing away when it came like time to start projecting insanity. And I mean, it's just because like, I don't have a like, she's not in my life. I'm not supposed to be at hers. That's a disposable bond as far as I friend. If you're wondering, that's why she's not in your life, fucker. I mean, also, there's the
Starting point is 01:07:52 whole I'm a priest thing that's not supposed to have kids. You know, or more specifically, you know, cause the kids to become created. Yes. Yes. Oh, so that happened after priesthood. Okay. Oh, yeah. What about you, Amanda? I don't want to say what I want to say. Say it. Say what you need to say. I just forgot what the question was. Who's your on your list? I literally blinked. I was like, what was the question? It's like, Amanda, you're not going to say the strip club too, god damn it. Soon, soon. Well, actually, you heard, you heard, it's a fiance and also you heard sister. So those are the two, you're going to have to pry the third one out of me, but the fiance is the highest one. Ironically, for some reason, like when we were prepping, like, you know how we were doing like
Starting point is 01:08:55 the rolls and all that and do that. I'm fucking fine. Like literally, I know you're saying I don't call it up, but with the numbers I have in stack, I don't know what those pancakes do, but they got some high points. So, so Amanda, you, when you put the character together, did you and Allegra think at all of putting each other as bonds? Was that a consideration? So, go ahead. No, you go. I don't know how much you want to keep sacred. I will say this. There is a bond. I do have a bond with a tuck on my sheet. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, we have because because the guys take a note if we kill one of them, the other one will go insane. How much do we want to say life? I mean, we there's a question. We'll eventually ask specifically about your relationship and your
Starting point is 01:09:47 past. There's there's a question from C Miller on Instagram. It says here, have they kissy kissy? Did they get their kisses in? Did they get their kisses in? They have a score of 14. All right, Eli, next question. Well, did everybody answer the question? Oh, no, who? Gratitude. Easy. The person she wrote the first recap to. That's like top enter therapist now, but gratitude. Gratitude. Okay. Yeah. Hey, none of that therapist, please. So important. So, Caleb. Yeah, I got to go with what Warp was saying. The first person that Merritt wrote, well, recorded home to Miranda is really important to him. I need to know what her
Starting point is 01:10:43 man or who Miranda is to you. Is that the next question? We were buddies in college. That's it. No, nothing else. I think for Hyde, it would be Pops. Pops is the the only thing that matters matters to her. I love Pops. Pops was so great. Oh my god, just the introduction and everything. I literally just played my dad for Pops. I just was my dad and that's how we did Pops. So cute. Oh, yeah. Tux is her wife, obviously. Is that everybody? I believe so. I think I will let. Okay. And then the last question I had was specifically for Merritt and your little notes. I wanted to get your first impression notes of everybody in the meeting we had with Mallory at the top. Oh, yeah. Okay. Spill that tea. Okay.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Um, the first one I have is, uh, Semi-L is hard to read and drinks too much. I think he may be a danger to the program. Correct? So far. In Irish breakfast, immediate flight risk with three underlines. I then tied Boomer to that belief. Boomer may be one to watch. Boomer is the same. Um, Hyde thinks just like me on time trying to accomplish things. Um, maybe an immediate leader, leadership material, um, one to watch out for. Oh, better. Why? Because you feel threatened? Yes. Yes. Yeah, it was definitely an immediate like talk is a possibility of being better than him. Immediately. I am. That was great. Needless, needless. Pay your compliment and you shit on.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Ridiculous. And then for Warp wrote down needs further investigation, a psych evaluation immediately possible spectrum. Yes. Yes. Everything. And then, uh, Agent Mallory, competent handler, quick with information should communicate with often. Try to snitch every day. Please try to remember that this was before he killed an innocent man for all of you and then his wife. Oh, I think they've changed. It made you double down. He now hates all of you even more. No, uh, things have definitely changed. I actually have revised notes that I kept on case for the rest of you for, I wrote them. I think the second session we had in the airplane after coming back from the historical scenario. So those are in
Starting point is 01:13:48 there too, but those were the immediate first thoughts. Anything else that you were all basket cases? All right, Aaron, what you got for us? So, oh God. Yes. Hold on. It's the scripted one first. You gather minute. Okay. Uh, so Megan, hi, Megan from Instagram has asked, uh, how did all of us meet each other? Have you known each other for a while or are you new friends? Thanks to this. Uh, okay. And that's, uh, there's actually two, two, two from Instagram, but we'll start with that one. And I'm glad I'm asking it so that I don't inadvertently answer. Yeah. Well, the simple answer is the latter. We are relatively new to each other in the sense that we all kind of met right before the pandemic and we met Eli shortly after that. Uh, but yeah, we haven't known
Starting point is 01:14:40 each other very long, but I think that's what kind of struck me so much was how we all immediately very much gelled. And I've always theorized it's because we all came at this project with very similar goals in mind. Obviously, we all wanted to make a podcast, but I think everybody was in the same headspace and that's what we managed to accomplish so much, you know, during the pandemic recording and kind of doing all the, the post and all of the, uh, the, the promotional stuff. We all really, uh, gave it a hundred percent and we're very lucky that we all came at it with that. I mean, also in addition to that, we got really lucky in that, I mean, we really hit the jackpot in that we all have perfectly complimentary personalities. That's true. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:15:26 totally. Amen. I also, I was thinking about like when we all work, go ahead, Caleb. Go ahead. You got it. Oh, no, I was just going to say when we, when we all met at a geeky tease for that, for that other thing. Um, I mean, I think Eli was the only one that wasn't there and Aaron was helping run things, but at some point. That was the only one that met Eli before that. Yeah. At some point though, Amanda, Zacchia, Caleb, Serge and I were all involved like in the same conversation and that was super cool. And like we all kind of like spoke well with each other, even though we hadn't really, you know, interacted before, like didn't know who the other people were. So that was really cool. And then like to find out that we were all the ones that were
Starting point is 01:16:10 working together. It was like, yeah. Okay. All right. This is going to be. I'm actually really sorry I missed out on that. Yeah. I really think it was a Star Wars conversation because I remember. It was towards the end. So it started out, we were all out in that little section of geeky tease that's the sort of selling area. And we were talking about our, our first memories with tabletop. But then Amanda joined the conversation. We started, I think we were shitting on the prequels or something like that. And then Amanda started talking about Obi-Wan at one point. Like it all just sort of came together. You know, I think it was like a perfect storm of not only did we work really well with each other socially, like I think me and Sergio were sitting down at
Starting point is 01:16:51 a table as soon as we got out of the first audition. And you know, we stayed that way until you know, leg came in and then Zacchia and Amanda and we had this big group. But not only did we get each other socially, we got each other so well on a creative level that like it's electric when you get people who create the same way that you do all in the same room. And I think once we had to Eli like every piece of the puzzle fit, you know, unfortunately we found that some of those puzzle pieces were extra. And you know, we came up with Mayday further down the line. But I mean, it's a miracle that we all found each other and what we're two months out from a year of knowing each other.
Starting point is 01:17:32 Like this kind of thing doesn't just like happen to people. And you know, we kind of just had it like drop in our lap. Exactly. We really got it. We've spent every week together for a full year in two months. It's incredible that I have the opportunity to be with you guys that much. And yet we have all never once been in the exact same room at the same time. Oh, Amanda is a seeker. The only ones I have not collected, but I'm just I know that jab. Yeah, I so are you guys going to pry me off you? I'm going to hug you so and then the second question that we have here is from Daffy on Instagram who asks how has how is that the previous discussion? How has that changed or developed over the course of the first
Starting point is 01:18:22 arc? Oh, we tied as fuck. Yeah. I think there was I think there was a little bit especially coming off of like the first situation. There was a little bit of a I think we were all a little bit timid that first because we didn't really get the chance to for at least all seven of us. I didn't really get the chance to know each other through through, you know, the thing that came before because of, you know, some of the the discreet the deficiencies that were happening there. So I think there was a there was a little bit of timidness of like, I don't want to put I want to be too much of myself. At least this is how I felt. I don't want to be too much of myself because then they're not going to like me. But now, you know, I think we're all we're all very
Starting point is 01:19:03 familiar with with who each other. Well, I mean, I'm shy as fuck. And when I met you guys, I was kind of just dropped into meeting all of you with the exception of air and air was the only person I had met first. So I was just like standing there in a in a group call, just like, okay, I'll be here, we'll stand here. And then eventually, I got a little more comfortable. Yeah, I'm so glad you are more comfortable now, because I mean, your personality joining in with all of us is it's been so cool to get to know each one of you on on that deeper personal level, because you're all just, I mean, some of the coolest people I've ever met in my life. I mean, without a doubt, we're closer. It's it's when you go through something like we've gone through,
Starting point is 01:19:43 which is producing a show and producing something that you're actually pretty proud of. I mean, so often a lot of us are in the industry of film and television. So often you're just doing it because it's a job. But this is a creative passion that we all had. And we feel like we've succeeded. We've created a really fun product that we enjoy participating in. And I think that brings us together with feels like a family, it feels like an enterprise that we're all a part of. It's like a good unit. Yeah, I will say, like, I know I said this, but I just want to put it on the record as me brand new to tabletop. I was like, probably like the best way to describe it is like, imagine Bambi just being born with the super shaking legs walking for the first time. Because
Starting point is 01:20:30 you haven't played before. No. And I mean, what I was like, seriously, like panics, what like the first time we were actually going to record, record, and I was like, Oh, my God, I don't know what I'm doing. I will jump on that too. Because we all met at an audition and I've never been to an audition. I never acted for anybody anywhere. So same. Absolutely terrifying. I was like, but everyone was so gracious and very kind. I was I was kind of surprised, but I knew that I because I remember everyone's personalities. But like, I was like, I don't know what the hell this means. What does this whole thing mean? I just remember the most basic questions or the amount of patience and how like even mid like people really explain it was like, it's like, Oh, okay. And they can handle me
Starting point is 01:21:13 after a really intense Star Wars debate. Oh my God, I found my people. And it was the other interesting thing for me was like, I didn't actually like participate in that. I was of the seven of us. I was just kind of like there watching. And like, so there was like for me coming into it when we first started doing, you know, Mayday, I was like, Okay, well, now I actually have to prove myself because I'm the only one that didn't like have to go through that like initial filtering process. Alright, so let's move on, Aaron. And let's keep in mind for anybody that has questions left, let's kind of be conscientious of time so that we don't run too long. Go ahead. All right, dad. Good. You shouldn't take very long for me. My first, my first question is for Zakiya. And it is
Starting point is 01:21:57 what kind of alien is warp? That's an important question. So many theories. We've heard so many theories as to what who warp is. Yes. Go ahead. No, there's a song that Stevie Wonder wrote called Saturn. That kind of alien. And then the second, my second question is also for Zakiya. And it's when we'll be get to find out that warp is actually an alien. That's fair. No one's asked her yet. I guess that's true. We did not bring that up. Nobody wants the truth. Everyone wants to believe what warp is in their head. Exactly. Art to second one. That's what we're all doing, like in tandem. Hey, warp, you alien. Tell us. What are you? And then my final question is for Amanda. And it's so when Sam L performs your wedding, are you going to be preparing your own vows or do you want to use
Starting point is 01:23:01 the pre scripted ones? I guess it just depends on the situation. Because if it's like the countdown is happening, we're going, we're a rapid fire. But ideally, I would like to make that. So you just tacitly agreed to that. So that's, yeah, that's happening now. Of course, you're going to meet, you're going to need people in your court. So if you need people standing next to you during vows or you know, we're all available. I doesn't wear dresses, but I'll be there. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Everybody should be there. Should everybody? Nobody can perform it. So how about Zakiya? What are your questions? Oh, cool. Okay, so I have one question from Vince. Hi, Vince. Hi, and he acts on the discord for everyone, including Serge. How do we all prep for each session?
Starting point is 01:24:06 Yeah, don't say anything incriminating everybody. Let's just say, let's just say most of us get very happy. And we're just, we're just so, we get so happy. Oh, gin and tonic. To actually answer the question in some way, I tend to put my books to my left. I have my dice to my right. I've got a extra little table to kind of put notes and stuff down. And honestly, prepping for a session is an entire week long process because I'm thinking about what happened last session. And I'm constantly like, you know, making notes and thinking about, you know, what obviously should or might be presented to you guys next. And I'm also always trying to think of, okay, what happens to Tuck specifically, what happens to Samuel specifically, you know, trying to make
Starting point is 01:25:01 sure all of you are included in some way in every session. So you don't just feel like a background character. That's how I prep. I have a dumb, long convoluted. I say I reread notes. I know that sounds so lame. That's good. That's good practice. I think of it like as an improv kind of thing, because I'm like, okay, what is the last emotional thing that would, and that usually, because then I'm thinking, what was the very last scene and why? Because I feel like if we're going right into the next one, I got to continue that. And whether that means I forget information that's like in the past or something like that. The point is like, where is boom or stop process at that point? So that's maybe that very actuary type thing. But I really do look at the notes and try
Starting point is 01:25:41 to get myself that. I would say, I would say for me, I kind of take the day to like, just hang out before we're recording because one, I got to set up in my little closet because I record in a closet. But also I'm just introverted as a person. So actually doing a lot of this takes a lot out of me. So it's just me listening to music all day, just me trying to stay in a good headspace and then getting ready to go. I usually get nice and endorphin happy beforehand. I'll usually go on like a good, you know, 10 mile run before we start. Gross. Gross. But good for you. God bless. Good for you. But disgusting. How dare you? I think for me, it starts with trying to go through Merritt's playlist. A lot of those songs are very personal to me. And I think music has a lot to
Starting point is 01:26:39 do with the way that I embody characters. It's something that I did a lot in college and something I still do whenever I perform. After that, it's sort of like a ritual of setting up Merritt's notes, of listening to what I'll do is throughout the week, at least when we're recording Doom to Repeat, I'll record little messages from Merritt to himself about some of the things that have happened that I didn't get to address in the podcast. And so before I'll play, I'll play some of those back to me to try and find his voice and the way he sits and everything. It's just a process of trying to break down the parts of me that are a lot more casual because for Merritt, it takes me like an hour before I really feel like I'm thinking like him because his style of thinking
Starting point is 01:27:26 is completely different than me. And so it really does take me some time to go through what I've done with him before before it'll come out naturally. Yeah, I can definitely tell the difference to, you know, just talking to you now and then remembering, you know, thinking back on how Merritt is portrayed, it's quite stark the difference. Yeah, yeah, people actually like me. The biggest difference. Blake, did you go? I, what do I do? I have a really dumb, long convoluted dice ritual where I will pick out the dice that I feel like for the day, represent my character and like what we've been going through,
Starting point is 01:28:10 and then I'll roll them and I'll take the five that roll the best and I'll do it and I start at the 20s and then I go to the 12s and then the 10s and the percentiles and the 8s and the 6s and the 4s and I do that with all of them. Then I put them in the box that Eli made me to give them good energy and I locked them in my little dice box and then I leave them there for a few hours and then 30 minutes before the game, I put it in my headphones and I listened to my Tuck playlist, my big long Tuck playlist and I like I try to find some songs that like might be kind of more indicative of like where she's at or like where we've been lately and while I listen to that, I read my notes and I put my dice and I like set my dice out in my tray in a way that's
Starting point is 01:28:54 also very ritualistic and convoluted and kind of insane and then I make myself some tea and then I freak out for about 10 minutes. So wait, so what you're telling us is that the dice that we get from you are the best rolls? Tuck's rolls are okay. You guys are thinking about different rolls. I think it's because Eli's been running the game where Eli had been running the game so that then that's why they like fucked up because they're like she blessed these dice, she must also curse them. I don't know. That's right. It is Eli's fault. Interesting. The dice box is supposed to protect your dice against fate so I can't control something that fate has in store for you. Yeah, honestly, same with most of that. There's a playlist. I have
Starting point is 01:29:55 a set of dice dedicated to spontaneous friendship that I play with every week, you guys. And then I have also death dice because we will also be facing that every week. Yes. So those two forces are always together. It's beautiful. Yeah, and that's oh and Beyonce's always there with me hyping me up. And I think yeah, Beyonce and Rum is really important to the process. Beyonce and Rum, unofficial members of Perennial, right? Mayday. The other question I had was based on my experience asking for you guys' character descriptions, which is a delight every single time. But how important is like the articulated appearance of your character to you getting a character? Well, you know, I really thought when we started,
Starting point is 01:30:57 I bought like a priest costume and everything. And I really told myself that I was going to wear it every week when we recorded. But that was just too damn hot. So I'm going to say, I'm going to say not very important. He got me hyped as hell when I saw that artwork. I think that it's it's very important. And I think it's important, too, because we talked very specifically about how we wanted you to depict these characters. These characters are not in some kind of heroic pose. They are standing in front of a police lineup. There's a lot of implication to what we're saying about these characters and who we think they are and what we think their jobs are and their, you know, their scales of morality and stuff. And so I just thought it was a genius
Starting point is 01:31:41 stroke the way that you you drew them. And they all look so hot. Yeah. I think I mentioned on the page, you're on that like for these sets of characters, I didn't even have like face characters attached to it or like an aesthetic attached to it. So I don't think a lot of like what we ended up doing description wise, I think about when I get ready to play hide or consider that I mean, there are a couple aesthetic details more of like the tattoos and stuff that are tied into background stuff. But other than that, I really don't think like visually about hide when I'm playing her. Oh, I totally sent in like, at least a couple of like here's some actresses or like sports people. Boo. Yeah, here's some poses to get the tone across. I was all about
Starting point is 01:32:48 like, this is boomer. This is what I think. This is frost. This is what you were you going through like you're on a roosie like Pinterest board. First of all, you guys finally found the inspiration. And then what did I see in the discord? Oh, my God, that's so hot. I'm like, yeah, no shit. I know what I was just like, I'm even Zaki translated it perfectly. I'm like, that's like certain aspects of that. So I was just like, get the tone. Like the face is one thing, but the attitude of Zaki nailed it for sure. Because like every single character, you everything about them is in that that artistic rendition of them. It really nailed it. Yeah, you know, for me, as a creator, and this is something my students give me a hard time about this is something directors gave me a hard
Starting point is 01:33:37 time about in college. I have a really hard time with killing my darlings. And when I have an idea about something, it has to be true to what's in my head for it to ring true. And sometimes I can get petulant if it's not. And so I'm sure you can vouch to the Zach, I send you like, fucking pages of what this pasty little white boy should look like. But it's because it matters so much to me and the interpretation that, you know, it comes out the way that I see him. I, you know, this is all to say that, you know, I want to commend you, Zaki, because a lot of that breaks away as soon as you send art back, because you have this beautiful way of taking what I already had in mind and proving on it, putting a part of you into it, and then
Starting point is 01:34:26 making it a part of the character I never saw before. Like inherently parts of merit changed once I saw the first artwork. When I saw that, I knew that there were partial directions I wanted to change and things I wanted to embody about him. Once I knew him, you know, once I saw him and thought, you know, that's way better than the bullshit I had, I'm going to go with that. And the same with our new adventure, you know, the one that's coming out soon, the same thing. I sat here and I went, you know, why did I care so much about what I thought? Because this is like the perfect, the perfect amalgamation of everything I was hoping for. And it informs everything that I do. So I mean, the only reason I play them the way I do is partly because I have that to work
Starting point is 01:35:11 off of, for sure. You guys are in for real trade for what's coming up. And Zaki is artwork. That's all I'll say. Incredible. The thing is, I don't ever feel like I have like a full person in mind, or like I have a full person as in like the inner essence of it, or like, but like the outside's kind of nebulous. I'm like, okay, they kind of look like this, and they kind of have this face, but like, and then Zaki does some fucking witchcraft and just pulls it out of my mind and slaps him on a piece of paper. She's like, what do you think? And I'm like, Oh, yeah. And then she's always like, do you have any notes? And I'm always just like, no. I was like, what are your notes? Like, does this look okay? And I'm like,
Starting point is 01:35:50 Yeah, Zaki, who gives the most notes after? Call them out. You can call them out. Yes. To him out. It is you, Caleb. But it's never, that's the thing. None of you getting notes from all of you is never like, fuck this. And there are fuckless experiences because art school. But each time it's, it's always important. It doesn't feel like a waste of time. Like no one, no one has ever bothered to meet with their notes or any of the things that they've sent in for their characters. But there's, there's a gift of the amount of time we have to revisit. And we'll talk about this next
Starting point is 01:36:40 time. And each edit was so significant. And I'm glad we got there. The fucking moustache. Caleb, the goddamn moustache. All right. All right. Let's move on. I am last for questions. So here we go, friends. Um, our friend Chrissy from Patreon asked, um, how did you come up with your characters? What was like impetus where like that we've saved this to the end? I was like, oh, shit, I have this. I should have given this to someone else. Oh, well, so, you know, kind of as succinctly as you can, but give us some good details about what was your inspiration for these characters?
Starting point is 01:37:28 Both about it again. That'll make it easier. Well, I kind of already answered that kind of No, that's true. Anything you didn't really touch upon? I mean, other than that, like Sam, I was back stories based on like a very real experience that I had. I would say for Hyde, I think session zero for us was important to figuring out exactly what in terms of like profession and like some of the backstory stuff, because I had walked in to Delta Green, not knowing anything, because you guys got to play previously and then I'm just like sifting through. And then when I was like looking through the jobs and I saw pilot, I was like, yeah, that would be fucking dope. I'll be a pilot. I'll be somebody's taxi boy. Let's do this.
Starting point is 01:38:11 And then it was like, it's also like around July. So like, what is it? Independence Day was one of my first concept designs for it. I think I said independence data is something else. I think Stealth was a movie that I recommended. Both are so high to those fucking perfect choices. So high. Oh, man. Yeah. And then I was intended to have a character who was Polynesian who came from Hawaii, because that was something that I wanted to do as a character was to try to tell stories involving Polynesian people that were more in a normal setting than that weren't specific to like history or stuff like that. So that was ultimately what like came up to becoming what Hyde is. I'll just say quickly, Hyde was my favorite surprise. I didn't know what to expect from Eli.
Starting point is 01:39:01 We had played with her a little bit and we had talked extensively about Hyde and what she was going to do. But Eli just brought so much interesting stuff to the character and it was so much fun to watch her reveal this character and end up being very layered and be the boss but not really want that job and yet somehow fall into it. It was really fun. Amanda. I'm vaguely okay. I would say now your character goes back because your character is one of the original, you know, we ran a kind of initial game just to get you guys used to it. I was going to say I'll talk about that a little bit because that was one of the first times I was actually doing tabletop for the first time and one of the advice someone said was okay,
Starting point is 01:40:00 try and pretend to be like you in a certain scenario. So there because that was like for me, I was just like, I don't know what to like build up on there. And that was like suggest, okay, do something loosely based off of like you. And I think at that point we needed to just get a spot filled in like computers and I'm like, yeah, okay, I'll be the computer tech. So that's where I would that's how honestly, that's where it was and it was just like certain parts of me because I would say mid 20s Amanda where it was like sometimes a little too much. I've calmed down some but like a little a little too much and just I think of a surgery that gave me the key word which was impatient. She's very impatient and can't sometimes can't articulate what is going
Starting point is 01:40:42 through her brain like a billion miles an hour. So she can't really say it. So sometimes she gets really frustrated when she doesn't mean to it's just it's everything's just going too fast. I don't know if I've ever seen a computer specialist portrayed quite like boomer and it's so interesting to to to see boomer because also I love the aspect that she just so doesn't want to be there and it's very it's obviously very natural kind of came out of obviously Amanda would not want to be in such awful situations. So I get to be the character that just says what the fuck are we all doing? I love that so it allows me to do that and I will say just go into an Apple store and you will meet those technicians here. So some of it was like based off some people there but I was just
Starting point is 01:41:27 like yeah sure if I was going to be a tech I would be kind of fun but then like I don't want to be here this is bad this isn't always bad. Allegro you might as well answer next. Yeah we were Tuck kind of came from that same game and I think I think I didn't even come up with Tuck I just I was like hey Serge I have no idea what I'm doing do you want to just throw me a random character. You kind of said you wanted to be a what's their name from the the show Asian. Oh yeah I wanted to be I wanted to be Olivia Dunham. Yeah yeah you kind of you had some names. I've been watching I've been watching it with my dad again during the pandemic and I was like oh god Olivia so freaking cool. Yeah oh wow that's perfect. Yeah and then Sergio just kind of like threw me all the staff and
Starting point is 01:42:12 he was like okay like come up with a backstory and it was for like a one-off game so of course I went way too hard and put like eight pages of backstory together for Sergio. Thank god though it helped us in the in the bigger campaign. Yeah and so then once once once that was over and we came back around to playing Delta Green I was like can I just play Tuck because I because I because I put a lot into her backstory that I was like actually really interested in eventually so it just kind of came to like okay like I want to be a little bit Olivia Dunham but I also want to like not obviously not be like full on Olivia. And it was fun because we ran a couple of home scenes you know suspecting oh it's been a couple years maybe since your last situation and it really kind of informed what
Starting point is 01:42:56 Tuck's headspace was coming into the to the campaign. And I think I think it's very important that we note that Boomer and Tuck were the only survivors of that scenario that's why they came back. They're the only survivors and also kind of why get sometimes I'm like why are you doing stupid shit. You know exactly what had happened and it went south fast so that's why I wish I could say like yeah she went and marked all those people. If you knew what happened beforehand then how she can go back. Weird history that we have that's so like. Yeah we will we will go into more detail in another episode but Caleb what about you. So mine actually I think came from that project that we were trying to do before where I was playing a character that was all
Starting point is 01:43:45 heart and you know I'm I came into this idea of Delta Green of like well I lost that opportunity to play through that idea of being someone who is uniquely just lost to their emotions and everything. I said well how can I retool that in a different direction for Delta Green. And so I wanted to play with this idea of someone who was all heart but fell into the wrong pathway this privileged sort of you know gifted child you are the best that's ever been sort of avenue and Merrick came out of that of being someone who is uniquely governed from not their head not their heart arms are not they're growing but their heart you know and going through that you know I wanted to create someone who was very agent friendly because I knew that a lot of us playing here
Starting point is 01:44:37 were going to be against the project I thought you know I'll try and balance this out and have someone who at least partly agrees with it for the wrong reasons even and and from there I was like well how can I take this story I really wanted to tell tell in a brand new way that I've never been before and it took a lot of retraining for my brain because I just didn't think like he did in the beginning but eventually it came Eli Zakiya oh well you already answered it Eli what about Zakiya so I used a tumblr aesthetic generator and got the words formal bug and vintage worm and that's where warp started that's the best that's a great way why are we only hearing about this now
Starting point is 01:45:22 that's incredible those things and then I just like sort of what boomer said and also sort of what merit said of like two steps over from yourself so like yeah I wanted to see if spinning yarn could be relevant so relevant it turned out to be way more relevant than I thought I learned so much about making yarn it's like something I really enjoyed so that was that was fun to see but also also Aaron you touched on it too which may be a spoiler so never mind yeah you can spoil or something it's just there's if it's already come up that's true it did so there's some interesting religious things that are being sorted out uh huh yeah yeah no kidding yeah I gathered as much yeah just a little hint yeah just a little bit
Starting point is 01:46:22 all right so that's everybody huh answering that question let's see yeah okay yeah I want I want everyone to pick one song from their from their Spotify playlist and tell me the significance of it because I love this shit this is my favorite thing I got you I got you so let's go rapid fire uh fine I'll go first my song is the last song on my playlist which is No One Believes in Moons and Goochers by Red City Radio um a lot of my playlists and stuff like that I look for like tonality or I'll look for like parts of lyrics that kind of resonates and the lyric in this one that is important for Hyde especially for her backstory is that if it was the last thing I ever recorded if it was the last thing I ever wrote um let it be known that the intentions
Starting point is 01:47:11 was to bring you home and that's that's kind of resonates a lot with with Hyde and her past and and stuff like that very cool is that who's ready okay where are your songs all right I mean it's like you had like really intense meaning mine was like for Boomer it's Bodak Yellow that's okay that's that's not okay that is it it says it all right there by the way that's in her head when she asked like she's like no don't bitch that's it so yes yeah for for Meri it's a song by my favorite band of all times Future Islands it's called a song for our grandfathers and it's explicitly about trying to be better for the people who came before you and did so much more than you right and it is so inherently to Merit's character of he's both being forced into
Starting point is 01:48:20 this idea of you have to be greater but in his own warped way he's realizing that there is a possibility of doing better than the people who came before you and that's important because we have to leave things better and there's a great line in there that says don't make him wait don't don't make him wait for you to be great and I think that's so inherent to what he's trying to accomplish he's just someone who's trying to do the best he can and is weighted down by this enormous pressure a beautiful song for me it's probably uh Aaron Papst agent's prognosis what a plug it all in all seriousness I probably other go with logic confessions of a dangerous mind just because there's this part where it's like and whether you pour you deal with your own
Starting point is 01:49:18 or you filled with financial security everyone deal with a own insecurity even the preacher was born with impurity scared to go out even with my security and I think that's probably you know I mean just like that there's like the strings going on in the background and just it's just like a wonderful piece of poetry that I think encapsulates kind of his uh you know that just encapsulates Sam oh very nicely totally totally yeah it's kia I'm totally everybody I'm stuck between like three different songs um improv okay I like I think we're gonna go with uh Laurie Anderson's oh Superman that song is trippy um but it's it actually is one of the best ways I've heard like summing up her entire experience how she deals with information um and I think what it sounds like
Starting point is 01:50:17 in her brain a lot of the time it would be that song yes uh and mine oh man mine's mine's probably lost in yesterday by Tayman Paula uh because like so much of who Tuck is and what Tuck like values and what she's working towards comes from shit that happened 20 30 years ago and so it's like it's it's just kind of ingrained in her so heavily that she like she can't even get like I don't think I don't think if she tried she could separate herself from the shit that happened to who she is now like it's just so integral like ground into her that she's kind of still living in whatever happened back then even though she's trying to like move forward even even moving forward is pulling her back so it's like this like horrible loop cool answers and also it just like is also
Starting point is 01:51:15 kind of what it sounds like in Tuck's head just kind of like trippy and weird and trying to keep it together cool jay you gotta pick one too uh it it's a toss up between the x-files theme and the theme for um true detective I think true detective theme song is super evocative and it just it distills in my head everything that I think of of like these depressed people who have seen crazy shit and and there's something allegorical and and otherworldly about it that's probably my like what I think of delta green I think of the true detective theme oh yeah okay all right I have I have a couple more uh Aaron if Sanmael uh would Sanmael have taken the reverb if Merritt hadn't uh contraband searched him eventually yeah probably will have delayed it by like a day tops
Starting point is 01:52:09 okay I cannot tell you how much relief I can breathe I feel so validated yeah oh but like in game it's your fault trust me I've gotten used to that um zikia an episode was it two I think it's in two uh an episode two uh oh you're muted oh oh fuck god I think they were just talking various was I just yeah I can hear you we can hear you technology zikia an episode two uh at the very beginning so we're like getting ready to go like fuck up the Stevenson's and someone asks are you willing to like kill an innocent person and like I it might
Starting point is 01:53:08 have been someone says yes I know I say no and you say depends what the fuck talk about that shit because I loved that uh that's not so on her job description with the program it doesn't say you know the person that bodies others but if someone asked her to she would it's but like that's not why she's here but if if someone if we pulled up to that house and they were like war it's your time she would have been like shit it's my time I guess I think I think you just call me off guard because like I wasn't I was not expecting to hear you say that and then we were like yeah it depends I was like oh what especially with everything that happens at Deceptic pink I had no idea that was coming out of warp with that like the dichotomy of
Starting point is 01:54:00 those it was very easy yeah there's a lot left to explore about warp for sure oh man I'm so excited all right this is my last one and then this will be our last question actually nice uh for now Sergio what were your expectations when we went to Baumann's cabin did you think we did we like did we do anything you thought we'd do or did you just hit the fan immediately so that whole episode I thought was literally our best session because it just flowed from beginning to end so seamlessly uh you guys you know looked at the things I needed you to look at at the right times and and I love the way it all came together where you're you go into the cabin and you know everybody's kind of looking at these different things warp opens the cabinet's like that's
Starting point is 01:54:49 weird a sink that goes nowhere and you know this evidence is kind of sort of building and and I just felt the tension starting to build and then I it was going to go one of well it could go many ways but one way I thought was that you would just pour gas into the tank and you blow it up and you walk away and and and I had mechanics for how much gas do they put because if they put too much gas maybe it causes like an excessive explosion but we didn't have that um I was not expecting Samuel to jump in I was certainly rolling with the punches there but I loved that he didn't fight when she hugged because I knew that at some point they were going to be dragging him out and when they do that that's when she can get out because that was Marlene's intention she wanted to get out
Starting point is 01:55:33 and she was at first trying to be sympathetic or as empathetic as possible she was really crying and you know trying to make you feel bad for and it didn't really work it kind of worked but not really uh not enough and so she tried to kind of ramp it up and and use the fact that she knows things to uh to get you to keep her to stay alive and when that didn't work then she was like fuck this I'm going to kill one of them and just and just try to get out of here but um um I I just thought it was a great episode from beginning to end dear whole point from the start like balls of the wall like we're gonna fight a zombie y'all no I I I I've I've I've certainly experienced surprise with you guys but I don't experience the
Starting point is 01:56:24 oh shit they're not doing what I want because that's not how we've kind of set up the game so I I think I'm able to roll with the punches because of the way I kind of structure my notes and stuff like that so it was a pleasure wonderful yeah wow all right so that's that's the first episode of our debrief we've got two more which we will be releasing soon we'll let everybody know when those come out um but thanks for watching our first stream we can't wait to be doing more of these we've got other games planned and a whole bunch of other exciting stuff so stay tuned next friday one that's right it's coming quickly so uh thank you we will be answering any questions that you put in our our chat tonight uh but thanks for tuning in guys bye

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