Mayday Plays - 👻 ORPHEUS, Book 2: Crusade of Ashes - Chapter 8 "Matthew 12:31"

Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, good afternoon, good day folks. Allow me to welcome you to another episode of Orpheus. As always, I am Vince, your host and storyteller for this campaign. Hey, I'm Amanda. I play Mia. Hey, I'm Caleb. I play Colette. Hey, I'm Eli. I play Nikoa. Hey, I'm Lev and I play Nikoa. Hey, I'm Lev. I play Logan. Hey, I'm Sergio and I play LaVinia. Hey, I'm Zach and I play Viv.

Starting point is 00:00:33 Now, please keep in mind that this actual play... Where did this like coffee shop energy come from? No, we were unhinged 20 seconds ago. I didn't see you there. Hi. You're picking each other up at the bar. So he got the tension. Sorry, babe. No, hey, listen.

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Starting point is 00:03:13 What does that mean? Jesus. I need my comfort. Actually, the corn cauldron is back. Too cold. Because this one has popcorn in it. And this one has frozen corn in it. The duality of corn.

Starting point is 00:03:28 The duality of corn. Beautiful. Well, now without further ado, let's begin. Music నినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినినిన� Now, welcome back. Before we begin, the one and only Eli has recap for today. So if you wouldn't mind, Eli, please kick us off. OK. Kaua Ka'uane Field Log, number 397. Current location, somewhere in Chicago. Status in progress. Emoni ike koko oke i naina.

Starting point is 00:05:18 Umikahanu oke hoomanu vanui. Swallow the blood of wrath and hold the breath of patience. I am watching time unfold. I have seen too far into the future that I have may have read the final pages and too far into the past to know how we got here. And at the present and with the present so fragile, it is set a course by a gust of wind that carries us from place to place with no purpose outside wearing us. And we are tired. When we rode into Chicago and met the blasphemers who gave us a choice and as we squabbled about how we would handle the unfortunate act of violence towards people,

Starting point is 00:06:05 as some may say, deserve it, I was reminded of what I had told myself amongst the rubble of Orpheus. Grandmother's work. How do you disrupt a cycle and mend a wound that refuses to heal? Because everything we keep doing is an attempt to sow pain and chaos. And even with the intent to avoid harm, we set fire to a whole neighborhood to satisfy our needs. Who reaps from this?

Starting point is 00:06:37 What are we making way for that follows in our wake? With the job done, we are owed what we came here for and the sooner we can find the following path, the sooner we can put this to rest. Final notes. I am unsure of how much longer I can upkeep field notes. We'll continue to provide records as capacity allows. Oh, God, also known as Crisval 12. What is the plan? When last we left you, you were driving away from the chaos in your wake in Princeton Park. What is the plan?

Starting point is 00:07:31 Well, it was late at night, so I would assume we'd lay low till morning. I see no reason what's stopping us from heading back to the blast room as soon as possible. That seems like the next best thing. Is everyone all right? I'm good with that. Nearly escaped the fire, some of us. Right. Just a bit. Just a bit.

Starting point is 00:08:10 Do we feel like the authorities will be taking care of that fire sooner than later? Yeah, yeah, it seems like a done deal. I think they're on our side or not our side. I would never say that. They're gonna check out the fire for sure though and with what we left them, I think they'll be happy. We're gonna check out the fire for sure though, and with what we left them, I think they'll be happy. Yeah. Did you get one of them spooky kitties? No, in all the past. Yeah. Like Jacob might be upset if we did.

Starting point is 00:08:36 Seemed to really enjoy our work, but not that much. Fair. Who's got the brick? It was a knee slap? Or no, it was in my hand back. Oh, your literal hand back. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:08:51 Yeah. Okay, so we still have the brick of pigment. Yes. Beautiful. Okay. So, how are we going about, so if we're heading over to the Blasphemers, how are we going about doing that? Because remember, they don't know that you know

Starting point is 00:09:06 where they are based. Okay. So how do we establish last types of kind of connection with them? We spoke to that girl. We spoke to their, yeah, their fixer. We spoke to one of their mortal, their living fixers. Okay. We have their contact information. Can we just arrange you know

Starting point is 00:09:34 Yep, I mean is there any sense in Pretending anymore. Why don't we just why don't we just show up? They might view that as an aggressive action by us. Yeah, I'd be on my guard if some folks showed up to my house and I never gave them my address. But if we wanted to show aggression without actually hurting them and all the mess that comes with that, it would certainly be intimidating. It's kind of what I was thinking. Just be really public about it, like we're on our way. You know, it would certainly be intimidating. It's kind of what I was thinking. Just be really public about it, like we're on our way. You know, no need to. Don't even tell them.

Starting point is 00:10:09 I think we show up. Oh, okay. I must get a shot on site. I don't know. I realize unless we. We're coming. Unless unless like a video, you can hulk out if you write. Yeah, I need to. If we need to do if we need to if we need to of

Starting point is 00:10:29 course I was gonna figure out what these fuckers know and if they start shooting at us at the door we don't have a whole lot of option on the way in and I know that like back home West Coast you walk into like a room full of crypts. I shouldn't be talking like this. No. Young people shoot you folks. It's just plain like in my mind, we die. Very level headed of you, Colette. I know. Thank you. I'm trying to improve myself.

Starting point is 00:11:00 We also have to consider that we might want to make friends out of enemies here. And so far the blasphemers have no reason to give us ill and we may need some help along the way. I don't think any help we'll be out of the kindness of their heart. I think it'll be another deal like this. But it's mutual beneficial. You know what I mean? That's where. But we'd be dealing with those two weird fucks. I mean, I just can't see how a partnership with them is anything other than putting our head

Starting point is 00:11:39 inside the jaw of the lion. I don't want to do something like this again. Yeah. We don't want to do something like this again. Yeah. We don't need to. No. They're not going to help us unless we do things for them. Let's just, well, we did everything on our part, right? So there we go.

Starting point is 00:11:58 We just, that's it. We did our part of the job and they can do, they can fulfill their end and that's it. We just got to hope like the worst people are super cool with pulling up their side of the deal. Yeah. Well that's why we made it. I think Nikoa's sentiment is what's most important. There's no reason for violence. In the beginning I wanted to chop both their heads off but it's not worth it, not for our end goal. At least not now. That's kind of an insight that

Starting point is 00:12:26 then to chop it off people's heads. I thought I really felt those thoughts. I'm with LaVinia. Are you all constantly thinking of decapitation? I'm constantly. Just a lot more than I am. I'm just going to put that down. I'm just going to say, honestly, that's of all the things, especially experiences in our life that the fact that decapitation pops in our head is what that's what gets you. It's just, it's so efficient. It's over.

Starting point is 00:13:01 Speed. I mean, that's how the French did it. So we text them. We text them or coming and then we show up. We behave and we go through the rigmarole. Can we all behave as I kind of leave and look at everybody? Who are you looking at? Yeah, I'm looking at the bum child this time.

Starting point is 00:13:24 Yeah, this time is a good qualifier call. Just general across the board. Everybody gets it. I know the usual answer, but. Somebody gave somebody a rock last episode. That's all you weren't there. You don't know. Only the colonos that I said to me and Colette.

Starting point is 00:13:43 You're right here. You. What's this about a rock? I mean, I know that it's sort of me and collect you right here. What's this about a rock? That isn't set out loud. I'm guessing. No, no. Sorry. If what was your what was your starting vitality when we kicked this off? Kicked off the the the arson, the just the campaign. Like what's your starting vitality? the, the arson. The, just the campaign. Like, what's your starting vitality?

Starting point is 00:14:07 Oh, six. Six? What's your current spite rating? Seven. Okay. Good to know. Thank you. Oh, thank you.

Starting point is 00:14:15 Thank you. When he asked questions like that. Thank you for that question. What's the context of those two numbers in conjunction? I think you pointed out the problem, child. Yeah. I think we'll find out. Go Google Vitality compared to Spice. Yeah, that's gonna be Spice. It's not a good one.

Starting point is 00:14:32 Spice Ascendant on page 193. Spice Ascendant? Oh, it's got a name. That sounds like a bad darkness game. Yeah, I'm just open the rule book for no reason. Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. 93 real quick. Well, everybody break early actually YouTube live. If you if you're watching along with us, we're all go to your assigned reading. We're all going to read up on the end of the 21.

Starting point is 00:15:00 I mean, the title of the episode is Matthew 1231. So open your bubbles. Next one. Welcome to. Right. You don't remember what that's in reference to. I'm sorry to I mean the title of the episode is Matthew 1231 The Bible verse we left in the burning building in the pizza boxes and it also And so I tell you Every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the spirit will not be forgiven. I don't know what that means. It was pretty precious. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

Starting point is 00:15:31 That's good. Wait a minute. That is minutes and weeks. Vince, I'm kind of reading this as very fascinating as I can on the spike. And on that, is there like a physical thing that we would notice, especially with that number? Only at when we hit two if we hit two over Okay, two over this the stains permanently manifest. Okay, so it's got you. Yeah

Starting point is 00:15:53 Yep, any who we know so we're heading over to the warehouse where the Blasphemy's have called home. Okay Wait, did we decide to call them or did we decide to go? We're texting them first and then we're going. Right. As soon as you text them, the phone starts ringing. It's Valeria. You recognize the voice as Valerias. What the fuck do you mean you're coming over? How do you know where we are? Well, we were hoping you would give us the address, so we would like to come over.

Starting point is 00:16:24 Well, not giving you the address. You can meet like we did last time. We'll look at everyone else in the car like anyone else shouldn't jump in. That's fine. Go to the park. Alright, we can go to the park. Alright, we'll meet you at the park. Alright. Yeah, 30 minutes. Okay, bye. Click. Hang up. Okay. Should we at least manifest like really like bad ass clothing like we're all wearing leather or something? Can you?

Starting point is 00:16:58 Yeah, I can't. There's a harness in my backpack. Okay. You can wear the harness your life. It's not the kind of harness you think. No. There's a harness in my backpack. Okay, you can wear the harness your life It's not the kind of harness you think no No, we're not we're not doing that. Hmm. Well, you were a former firefighter. So it's like a fire harness useful harness I wouldn't take that guess If you want to go full matrix, I think it would great I Don't even know what's happening right now. You would look cool full matrix. Yeah, I just want him to remember me as a little more badass and just chicken a jumpsuit.

Starting point is 00:17:32 Before you decapitate them. Yes, no, I'm not going to do that. I promise I won't do that. With everybody because we're going to the park. They had people in the lookout last time. Is there like, do we want to go the same entrance? we're going to the park they had people in the lookout last time is there like do we want to go the same entrance do we want parking the same way or or something I'm not there's OK just want to double check all the procedures.

Starting point is 00:17:55 Yeah we just want to go. OK. Just so you know I will need a coffee after. It is late and I'm tired. Hopefully we'll go to bed after this. Hopefully we'll be alive after this. High on the prize, folks. So you all go to the park and for the sake of expediency, we'll say that eventually Valeria Soto arrives with a van and you go through the same procedures last time for those who are living bags and over the heads

Starting point is 00:18:33 to as a measure of operation security and you all are driven back to the warehouse where the Blasphemer's crew continues to congregate with their pigment, with their other illicit substances, their hardware. And you are brought once again into the court of Mateo Cruz, only this time Jeffrey's not with him. Mm. Mm-hmm. Mm.

Starting point is 00:18:59 Where's your kid? Mm. He's working Child labor laws He had some steam to blow off So how'd it go? It went it actually went pretty well. Houses up in flames. Yeah, still probably still smell like smoke.

Starting point is 00:19:30 They will not be up and running anytime soon. If ever. The news at all, it's probably up there. Yeah, yeah, that's a lot. And you made sure they knew who, uh, who was responsible. We made sure the pass the message along. And we did it full theme too. I think you guys came off with some branding.

Starting point is 00:19:52 Branding. Have you ever read the passage Matthew 1231? You know, this may come as a bit of a surprise, but I've never been one for religion. Well, after this one, you may want to look into it, get some t-shirts going, some phrases. It kind of fits you guys. I'm not gonna lie. Well, okay, then. I believe you had some questions. What can I do? And respect for your efforts tonight. Now granted, you don't only did

Starting point is 00:20:31 one of the things I asked you so. You gave us choice. I did. We took our choice. And I... Yeah, yeah, I mean The the more enthusiastic would have maybe done both Well, we were thinking

Starting point is 00:20:53 Just good business right? This is a show of capability and Then you can share with us all of your information and then as a show of good measure we do your second job to finish off that way we don't do the extra work and not get what we want in return we figured you admire something like that I might if I was fucking stupid you. That's fair too. Yeah. Yeah. Well, okay. We'll hold some cards. We'll hold some cards. Yeah. Yeah. I think I will. I appreciate that you could be the consent there. Thank you. I mean, who had the questions, by the way? We, one's been. We're out of character. We're here to talk about Project Flatline, right?

Starting point is 00:21:45 Yes, correct. OK. I'm waiting for somebody to ask the question. Great. That's for me too. That's all. I just have the question, what is Flatline? I don't have any other questions on top of that.

Starting point is 00:21:55 No. That's a good start. Viv just speaks up. We want to know about Flatline. Are we all, I think, cards in hand? We've all done the things we need to do for each other. Let's get to Sharon. Flatline.

Starting point is 00:22:09 You're looking at it. You. What is this organization? Well, me, Jeffrey, a couple others. Yeah. We were Flatline. We were, uh, we were flatline We were We were prisoners right tear out United States penitentiary Indiana

Starting point is 00:22:33 You know We we were on borrowed time. Let's put it that way only federal penitentiary with the death row. You know what I mean? so throw, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. So, uh, when a couple of men in black come in and say, hey, we got this experiment we'd like to run, would you like a stay of execution? We said, sure. And they experimented.

Starting point is 00:22:58 They did their thing. And we found that we could get away, maybe not in our bodies, but outside of them. So they taught you how to project? Tought's probably a strong word. They froze us, they injected us with all sorts of shit, and we learned to exist outside of our, what they call them, our corporeal forms. We decided we didn't want to go back.

Starting point is 00:23:38 Do they still have your corporeal forms? Oh no, they burned the fucking prison down. Oh. Well, just because they've burned the prison doesn't mean they burnt your bodies. Trust me. Our bodies are fucking gone. And we know you wanted. Just gonna say we know from experience that I'm just going to say we know from experience that people can stay out of their body once it's destroyed or is it like there's a good chance the soul will or the spirit will disappear.

Starting point is 00:24:14 Oh no, no, no, it depends. You just know that once the body's dead, they're a spirit. They're a ghost. And then it's like a craps shoot on whether they stick around, right? Right. Right. What do you do for them? Like, I can't imagine that they just let you project. Oh, we didn't do much for them.

Starting point is 00:24:35 It was more of a proof of concept. I think they call it in business terms, right? That their technology worked. The government was more interested. The government was more interested in what had now it could change things for them. Do you know who ran this? Who recruited you?

Starting point is 00:24:58 My girl doesn't kiss and tell. That's very kind of you. It's government. NSA. No other identifying markers, no other names. Not that I recall. So they wanted to discover a way to consistently create ways to project in people

Starting point is 00:25:28 so they could what take this to the army and make a couple Captain Americas? I mean you look semi-intelligent despite the questions you all like to ask but think of it this way what could the intelligence community do with people that can't be seen? I was already with you on that. NSA is part of Next World too. Oh, no, no, no, no, they contract Next World. Or I should say, flip it around,

Starting point is 00:26:02 Next World's part of the NSA in a kind of disparate way. So the NSA is trying to become a power in this ghost race, too. Basically, well, they want to use it for. Well, they were. We're what do you mean by that? They're not anymore? Well, I don't know. That was back in what?

Starting point is 00:26:22 Couple of years ago. I don't know what they've been up to since. I'm just me and Jeff. So the project didn't continue. Well, I think it did. So the project didn't continue. OK, it became Orpheus. Pass the person.

Starting point is 00:26:36 The project became Orpheus. What do you think? Orpheus figured out how to do everything they do. We're looking at a relic. We're looking at the original. These, this man is what brought Orpheus and all the others, yeah. This is the first project.

Starting point is 00:26:56 Or the bodies upon which that little corporation was built. That seems right, they would go, Jesus. Okay. It's not particularly surprising when you put it all together. It's not. It's... Ugh. It doesn't make it feel great.

Starting point is 00:27:16 It doesn't quite connect the dots to why Orpheus is in shambles right now. Do we go too far from the original objective? Do we get too involved in personal? At some point, you acquire enough dirty secrets, dirty laundry, someone's gonna come calling to collect. But it wasn't the NSA that came calling. It was Next World, but Next World gets contracted by the NSA, so it could technically have been the NSA. Well, but he's saying right here that we are the NSA, right? Am I wrong? No, it's not worth his flatline.

Starting point is 00:27:56 And flatline was created by the NSA. In conjunction with... Well, the flatline was the original project if we will that was it that was where everything the founding all that stuff came from but if we're gonna be first thing what happened to Orpheus yes NSA is definitely up there but that the end of the day that's that's maybe it may not be the case maybe something else that we're not seeing I mean the leaders of Orpheus were all from different places. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:28:28 I forget what was the name of my contact Vince, the cross cross. I mean, cross was totally, if not an essay, some other intelligence agency. Um, I would know what was he again. And I say, okay. So yeah, I mean, it's it's always been looked after and Either Orpheus had too much dirt or it was no longer useful in some way accounts a consolidation of power That's right. Okay, so Orpheus

Starting point is 00:29:01 Currently is ran by a bunch of fucking rich people not more but currently is ran by a bunch of fucking rich people. Not anymore, but yeah. Well, once was. Well, once was. Ran by a bunch of fucking rich people. Like, private sector kind of motherfuckers, right? Automatically we wouldn't have the government's trust to run separate from the NSA.

Starting point is 00:29:20 Separate, no, yes, that's why Cross was there. Well, maybe those rich fuckers found something too important to allow anyone other than the government to have. We already know there was a third party involved from Niko's visions. Whoever came in afterwards swept up and tried to find whatever the, I'm saying a lot.

Starting point is 00:29:42 No, you're right. Do you have any guess as to find whatever the, I'm saying a lot. No, you're right. Do you have any guess as to what they were looking for? No, me? Yeah, why not? Not my problem. What do you know about Vaughn or Williams or Brayden Tyler? What about D'Rov?

Starting point is 00:30:11 I've never heard anything about those, what the fuck are these guys, aorpheus chocolors or? Kind of, yeah a little bit. Was Bishop the nickname for D'Rov? No Bishop was- Bishop? Where'd you hear that name? Yeah, we were poking at Flatline before we got to you. You know that name? Maybe. Maybe not. Oh, we definitely know that name. Yeah. That's who had... that's who called the contract. Is it now?

Starting point is 00:30:48 Alright. Was Bishop there at the beginning of the experiment? Oh man, you all are in so far over your heads. You don't know which way is up, do ya? It helps us if you give us the info. It doesn't help me none. Really? It'd be a little weird to have like this group of people just in your territory accidentally uncovering stuff we don't want not towards you, but having us in a direction that's just saying. Wait. How long ago were you experimented on? How long ago did Flatline start?

Starting point is 00:31:25 About six years ago. That's not long. No, but it's longer than three years. It's longer than he should have lived. Oh, shit. He's you. You're past. Yeah. He passed the barge.

Starting point is 00:31:42 Some of us are real good at hiding. What were you hiding from? Yeah, that's a large some of us are real good at hiding What were you hiding from? Yeah, what happened? Beats me What were you hiding from? Do you all really think that orpheus can do what it does and it's not going to call attention? On both this side of the veil and the other. Well, obviously not. So the price to pay.

Starting point is 00:32:14 Something came through that year. You can say that. What, like a Jason or? What happened? Would make a Jason look like a fucking walk in the park. Did they unleash something? Or did something crossover? I think you all have exasperated my goodwill.

Starting point is 00:32:46 Yeah, we only got so much. Can I at least ask something about you? You can ask. What are you doing? I mean, you saw through the end of the world, you removed yourself from the NSA, you've hit under their nose long enough that they haven't come looking. You're starting this little gang empire. What's the move?

Starting point is 00:33:14 Are you just hiding out and tell spirit fades and they tell the end of the world? You have to have some stake in all this. I mean, you don't have to tell us you have no business telling us to begin with but I Do wonder why you stick around? What's the one thing them us Orpheus next world and this a everybody has in common. It's the one thing we all want more than anything Power power What does power get you? Do you think that once we die, we lose all of our earthly motives, objectives? Well...

Starting point is 00:33:58 I get to see the sun come up, I get to see it go down, I get to see the moon come up up I get to see the moon go down. I might as well still be alive. I just can't be shot What do you gain though, what do you you you can't spend money you can't know what my people can't See so you do care about something and it's your people Yeah, why Do you do care about something and it's your people? Yeah. Why? Why not? You're one of the serial killers, right? Oh no, that's Jeff.

Starting point is 00:34:33 Okay. But you had a bit of clout, you had a bit of a following, little celebrity moment. Oh yeah. Yeah. I still do. And yep yep got it Okay, I've I've got everything I need from you

Starting point is 00:34:50 You're just scared of what happens next you want to hang around because you're scared Doors that way yep, that's what I thought It's fun to live as a coward isn't it I'm gonna walk out I will follow So we're gonna stick around in town for a little bit You're not gonna fucking murk us are you I guess you want to tell us But like we've been at least a little chill, right? Yeah. Keep mouthing off though, see what the fuck happens.

Starting point is 00:35:31 I guarantee you that's not gonna fucking change. I'm so sorry. We're trying to work on it. We got a lot of personality disorders in this group. Okay. We'll get out of your hair. Okay But listen like the offer really was on the table if you have more shit We'll do more shit, but it's quid pro quo Clarice Yeah, take care of the Hell's Angels wipe out the Chicago chapter. We'll talk What do you have on offer though that makes that worth it because I don't know if you've looked at me I Wear flowers on a lot of my shit. I look weird as fuck man. I don't want to kill people

Starting point is 00:36:18 Then y'all shouldn't have come through my fucking door Yeah, but at least give me a reason why that might be worth it If you want shit, don't I have to spell it out for you? I obviously haven't told you fucking everything. And I'm not gonna tell you fucking everything. Well, at least give me like the start to that sentence. That wasn't good enough. No.

Starting point is 00:36:36 Yo, we're fucked up. We handle Hell's Angels. You finally fess up about Bishop and we keep this going. I know you like the attention I didn't say I know any motherfucking Bishop Worries me listen trust me don't go digging down that hole He doesn't look comfortable talking about it. Oh.

Starting point is 00:37:06 I also, I want to say that Logan walked out of the room and then immediately just stepped to the side of the doorway to keep listening. Logan had like, I was like, I'm going to make a cool exit and then was like, wait, I have to hear what's happening and also make sure everyone's safe. I mean, like, LaVinia walked out with you, so she stopped, kind of looks see. I'm just going to join to the visual. Mateo looks at you,

Starting point is 00:37:32 Mia, as I tell you something, that friend of yours was not Rasa. Yeah, they wouldn't be walking the fuck out of here. It's in your best interest to fucking move on. What do you call it? Interesting. Okay. Yeah, we'll get Jetton. Bye.

Starting point is 00:38:00 I hope I just want to be the last one out. I hope I just want to be the last one out. And I'll just want to look at Matteo for just one second, just casually walking. Your age is a testament to how long you've been able to hide, but I also just a bit of advice for you that I've seen what came out from the other side. But I also, just a bit of advice for you that I've seen what came out from the other side. And there's no amount of hiding that's going to stop it.

Starting point is 00:38:37 Keep that in mind, and I'll head out. All right. Well, it feels like we're no closer. the the the Well, they're gonna put us in a van and I mean they put us put back in the van Taking back Dropped off at your car SV whatever you got Can we check around the SUV to make sure there's not like air tag or anything? Like just make sure there's not like a tracking type of thing and then we're to when I get in the car

Starting point is 00:39:20 I'm gonna try to Drive in random places. So yeah sure's probably. Yeah, sure, Finn. Go ahead and make me a, let's do, WITS plus... To do WITS plus investigation. Oh, yay. Yay. I have four successes.

Starting point is 00:39:52 Yeah. Thankfully, it doesn't look like they've put anything on your vehicle. When we get in the car, who had the phone? Who had a phone? Like, we had, because we had... The phone that Batu gave us? Yeah, there's a reason why. Because in a lot of phones, you can go in the settings and actually track locations

Starting point is 00:40:16 of where sometimes the phone has been. So we can actually see if we were in a warehouse, like the actual general location of that warehouse oh I mean I I found it on the map. I know where it is. Yeah, yeah Logan found it We can look like they're at any time. I I have I have it pretty well Okay, as long as it please Indicate or anything like that. That's a good idea though, but this time we don't need it. I Don't want to beat a dead horse,

Starting point is 00:40:49 but we did do a really good job sort of handling the last arson bit really well without killing too many people. It looks like we need to do the Hells Angels thing and it looks like we might need to do it for real. I'm out on that. I mean, really? Are we really going to do the Hell's Angels thing. And it looks like we might need to do it for real. And I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not. I mean, really? Are we really going to do this?

Starting point is 00:41:08 I don't, it was gonna. I don't know if it really holds anything more from us. This feels like a dead end to me. Honestly, I think, well, was it? This is wrong. And part of me is like a little nervous, but it's something with Bishop again. You saw how he reacted to that.

Starting point is 00:41:26 Yeah. If we can think of something, if we can go above him somehow, let's do it. I'm with Vin. I think we're done here. I mean, we have this lead with the NSA. I think that's more important. I think we have an awareness that they might be that third party looking for something in Orpheus's data banks. I think that's where we need to go next. We either need to find out who that was that started Flatline or we need to figure out what it is that they were trying to

Starting point is 00:41:54 take out of the Orpheus files. I mean, that's what started all of this was whatever they were trying to find. What time is it right now, Vince? I think we're pushing. We're definitely past midnight at this point. I'm going to start flicking through radio stations. OK, we can assume that if flatline is what started it all, Cross was a part of Orpheus. If Cross wasn't part of Flatline, one of his previous

Starting point is 00:42:24 progenitors were, this is a case of we have to build something against the NSA and we just happen to know the players and we need to draw those lines to prove it. Do we wanna go see Cross? Can we? I think that feels like a death sentence, but... For which party? For any of us.

Starting point is 00:42:49 What is cross game speaking to us? If anything, he's the one that's been trying to kill us this whole time. I was just thinking that we... Leveraged something against him. Well, that's the issue right there. You don't have anything to leverage him against. I mean, we're really good at scaring people. This is true.

Starting point is 00:43:12 We will haunt you for the rest of your life. If you don't turn yourself in. Well, he had to like you a little bit, right, man? He saw me as useful. I don't think he liked me. What if you were useful again? Whoa. To do what? To what gain?

Starting point is 00:43:30 It would only be if we were trying to set him up in some way to get caught doing something. Wow. Even if he must have had all the cards, like he was still looking for something. He still needed something out of this. So why he needed you. You were no, like, no being an asshole,

Starting point is 00:43:57 but you were like reporting to him, right? Yes. For some reason he saw value in Crucible 12 and so he was asking me to give him updates. Well, what did he want to know about us? Anything, everything. He just wanted to know what you were up to, thoughts on the team.

Starting point is 00:44:17 There was nothing particularly, he never asked me anything in particular, he just wanted updates. I don't know, if I had a certain point, it kind of felt like a psychological Way to control me or something. I don't know if there was a point how do you do this with every crucible? How do you feel about Kate? I trust Kate. She's given us no reason to not trust her this new orpheus whatever it is is probably something different

Starting point is 00:44:44 So then cross was he against Kate? not trust her this new or pious whatever it is is probably something different. So then cross was he against Kate? Vince, unless you feel otherwise, I don't think cross ever told me anything about Kate or opinion. Yeah, it was very one sided relationship. Yeah. And remember cross specifically asked you to keep an arrow for anything related to flat line. Oh, okay. Gotcha specifically asked you to keep an ear out for anything related to flatline. Oh

Starting point is 00:45:06 Okay, gotcha There you go Because that's where you first heard the word LaVinia would have first heard the mention of it Was cross specifically asked LaVinia to keep an ear out for anything related to project flatline That leads us to believe that he was in some way connected to it Then if you wanted it or wanted it out of everyone's ears. Maybe he was looking for Cruz. Or maybe he just didn't want to know if anyone wanted or anyone knew. Maybe he was trying to like find out if- Because you figured these two are hiding. Well real quick what if we let Cross know where Cruz was? Two loose ends. Yeah, you useful again What if cross is Bishop

Starting point is 00:45:49 Let's just throw that up. I mean there's always the chance of that but if we do that What are the chances that cross would personally come to make sure that cruise was captured? I mean if you did would you let me? Cut his head off Are we all back at the hotel? Lobby we're the hotel Driving a long route. I got his back. it was only us, we're in the hotel. Did anything on the radio in the car kick off? It did not.

Starting point is 00:46:30 Okay, well, when we get back in the hotel room, I'm gonna get the shitty clock radio, and as we're talking, I'm just gonna hold it in skim through stations. Fair enough, yeah, fair enough. I mean, we could withhold enough to get him in the room with us before he comes from Mateo. Tell him that we have room to bargain. Say that it's not something we can talk about without seeing him. I think we could tell him we know the location of Flatline and where he's been looking for them. I think if we drop that word, he's gonna come hungry.

Starting point is 00:47:03 He's not gonna come without backup. Yeah. Look, the- Do you think he- I'm just- All I'm gonna say is the reality of things is, I have the time, I'm dead, but it's going to take years for processing

Starting point is 00:47:22 any kind of justice. Or we can invite him into a space and we can finish him. And regardless of what the justice system decides to do, we can walk away knowing that justice has been served. Sounds like a plan to me. I mean, obviously there's some gaps, but... I... obviously there's some gaps, but I think that that's for the other half of this team to decide. And I think that my part in that is I just want to know what he knows and see how this gets us to the next step. If that's something that the two of you, and she's going to get very pointed looks at Vin and and and

Starting point is 00:48:06 acre If that's what the two of you think you need Then that's something you can go down, but I Don't I don't I just want to know what he knows Sell me on another endgame here Col Colette. What is the alternative? We know who it is, a man who has incredible power and influence, and the chance of him being in some kind of court to face his crimes

Starting point is 00:48:34 is almost next to zero. What's our other option? Here's the thing. Just let it go. There isn't another option. Like, I'm real about that too, but that's not why I'm here. Just because it's the only button doesn't mean I have to press it, right?

Starting point is 00:48:53 I can hear. Because some of us are running out of time. We're living in a crater of what we used to call our lives. And I think a lot of you are trying to therapize that with a gun that just so happens to also be your hand. And I think that to a certain extent, you guys are grieving,

Starting point is 00:49:22 and you're grieving in this direction that is fleeting. I just want to be here for you, guys. I want to see this through to the end. You said it was something that we needed to do. You said it was an answer we needed to find. I want to see it. I just don't want to be in the room when that happens, because I don't think we need it, but if you think we need it, if you think this is gonna help, the three of you make a big decision about what happens next and about what world happens for the rest of you,

Starting point is 00:49:56 then we'll do that. Orpheus is gone for me. It has been gone, and I'm just an artist again. I draw pictures. I'm just here for you guys. And if you think, lobbing off heads, it's gonna bring you some emotional clarity. I'll tell you, you're wrong,

Starting point is 00:50:17 but I'll stand outside the door. I guess my question is, what do you... Not you, not you, but what does everyone gain from killing Kross? We don't know what he's doing, we don't know what he has, we don't know what he's trying to do. He fucked up Orpheus, yeah, and it sucks, and I hate him for that, but I also don't know what killing him does.

Starting point is 00:50:48 There's gonna be other people like him. Absolutely, and if we're alive and able to do so, then we'll stop them too. Yeah. I think we can all agree that killing a whole company of people who are even innocent and all that is worthy of attention. Right, and I think Lavinia is right. There is no other authority that's going to

Starting point is 00:51:08 give him due process for sending a bunch of ghosts to kill a building of ghosts and humans that just there's no other, even if this whatever came through the veil that is worse than adjacent, I don't think that's something that we can hunt or return or control. This is just a problem now that's here that is caused, at least in part, by Cross's actions. In addition to ending the workforce that was Orpheus. But that doesn't solve the problem of the thing being here. Well, no, but it's here regardless.

Starting point is 00:51:41 That's what they're saying. It's like, it's here. We can't fix it. We can't send it back. Killing him isn't going to change's gonna change that we can start the person who keeps opening the door. Hello and There's no telling what he's gonna do next. I know that I just advocating for Advocated for not killing him, but I do see the merits of him being dead. Do that make sense? I don't wanna go in dead, a lot of things would be solved. I mean, death isn't the only thing. If there's a way to keep him alive and uh,

Starting point is 00:52:13 I can't think of the word. It's not suffering, but you know. You're talking about like putting him. Okay, all right. No, there's your killing or argument here. I'm sorry. Are you talking about putting him in a Ghostbusters trap? Is that what you're gonna do? I mean, if we don't want to kill him, there are other ways. He was experimenting on prisoners. It wouldn't be ridiculous to lock him somewhere as well. I was just thinking that instead of us attacking Cross, if the two parties know of each other, we could possibly convince, or maybe we don't need to convince at all, the Blastbromers to fight first,

Starting point is 00:52:48 to strike first, and send Matteo after Cross. Does he want to go after Cross? I mean, if he was connected with Flatline in any way, you'd be pretty fed up. If he knew Cross was coming for him, he might. Or he might just run like the coward that he is. That's the thing. He's having us do all his dirty work, is the thing. I think we also need to recognize the fact that,

Starting point is 00:53:18 what, he's six years? Yeah. He's already one of the oldest Spirits that we have right now at least Queen Brick like so there's something that even he Special with bit when we brought a Bishop and all that he got scared Yeah, he's scared of something he even said he knows how to hide I tell you what though is it that I'm still freaking out on He he told us what he wants. He wants power.

Starting point is 00:53:45 And there's a whole lot of power in being the one that brings Cross down. It could be enticing for him. Koa, you've been quiet. What do you think? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I mean, trying to find reason might be helpful.

Starting point is 00:54:08 I don't, I'm not sure. What'd you see? I don't think we've, what do you mean? You said you saw him and you gave him advice. The thing that came through. We all saw what came through the veil. That's what we saw in that park. It's if Flatline opens something, then whatever is next and crosses plot has opened something else, or it's now completely open. I'm not sure.

Starting point is 00:54:42 Oh, shit. But whatever it is, you know, it's much bigger than this moment right now. Do you think it's still open? If you really think about it? I don't know. I'm not sure. I don't, we are dealing with power beyond our understanding. And he was not interested in sharing his side of it. You know, we can go to the side of the prison and maybe we can find something there. We can look far enough back

Starting point is 00:55:13 and see if we can see the first flat line. Can you wait, that's six years. That's what actually happened. That's like six years though. I can see farther than six years. But how are you? Yeah, but usually not without consequence. Okay, that's beyond the point. The point is that we're still looking for answers. Would you? And we're trying to find which solution, which way we find those answers. Knowing that Mateo was there during the purge, could you see the purge?

Starting point is 00:55:51 Would you need to be in a location? I'm not sure. I mean, if maybe. Places are stronger when you're tethered to those locations. I'm not sure exactly where Mateo was during the purge, but he was a part of Flatline, which means he saw and witnessed everything that existed while Flatline was operational until that prison burned down. So we could at least see the experiments, understand what was going on there. And we still don't know what he can do. Or figure out exactly what Cross was looking for.

Starting point is 00:56:25 Again, Cross was looking for information about Flatline, which I mean, I have to assume he doesn't know the source or what he's exactly looking for. I think he was more like he was looking for his lost experiments. Because they got away. Yeah, they got away. That's all he wants. He wants to hide the evidence. Oh, that's what I mean.

Starting point is 00:56:45 If we can produce evidence of these two as proof. I mean, it's kind of strange. They're not far from where it all went down. The prison's in Indiana. It's three hours away. Yeah. Wait a minute. If we work with Collette's contact in drug enforcement

Starting point is 00:57:04 Yeah. work with Collette's contact in drug enforcement to raid these guys. And if we worked on catching Cruz and Dahmer, who's the other guy? Jeffrey Rose. Jeffrey Rose. Jeffrey Rose. Fair, close. If we were able to capture them, they would be the evidence we could use against Cross.

Starting point is 00:57:21 Yeah. But also they're criminals and the US government doesn't have a huge believing criminals Justice system justice system. Go ahead. It's not quite. You can't persecute a ghost. Those are our two rules at Arvia.

Starting point is 00:57:50 We don't even know how to capture them. The reason why Killing Cross is not going to affect anyone who's dead. Right. I don't know. There's something to this. There's something to using. Because now that we know that Cruz is flat-lying, this is evidence. We know what's going on. We know what's going on. something to this there's something to Because now that we know that cruise is flatline this is

Starting point is 00:58:08 Evidence we know it's cross. We've been looking for the way to connect the dots Right this puts them both in the room and this can get us in a room with cross Wait, hold on. We're forgetting that we have someone who actually knows how things work We have Kate we can call Kate and we can tell her all this. I was thinking that too, because if these two are as old as they are, they may be the only ones, I mean, does anyone else know of a ghost

Starting point is 00:58:36 that came before the Purge? Is maybe the only two that are there, maybe that's why I crossed them. And Kate knowing about that would be a good thing. As long as we still trust Kate. I'm not saying I don't, I'm just saying we know Orpheus has got shittier beginnings than we originally thought. So.

Starting point is 00:58:59 Well, name a company that hasn't started off pretty shitty. Ugh. hasn't started off pretty shitty. I'm just saying. They're on your right. The list of like grassroots nonprofits that they know it's there and then it goes away. And then I counter with every major company. And I know what you're trying to say.

Starting point is 00:59:20 It just, yeah. No ethical consumption under capitalism. Amen. Exactly what we're saying, eat cross. That's ethical consumption. Thank you. But let Vin eat cross. You may get a spite rating or two.

Starting point is 00:59:38 I have. Let's update Kate and maybe her guidance will help. Yeah, maybe she's got a piece we're missing I'll pull out my what time is it? It's fucking way Shall we do it would this be too rude to call her right now, or should we just do it very early in the morning? Let's do the morning. We're doing it in the morning. Can I suggest maybe we get out of here? I mean just at least out of Chicago Uh, can someone drive then because I'm going to sleep in the back

Starting point is 01:00:16 I'll do it. I'll do it because I I just worry those fuckers I've I've I've I've pulled longer nights in this I'm good. Yeah, no someone else Exactly good goons can drive full drive if you get pulled over If we get pulled over we just don't break the law. It's middle of the night. That's hard for us. If I'll get in a fest, then I'll look a little bit like the person whose license I can grab first. Okay, we're sleeping. Oh my gosh.

Starting point is 01:00:52 I think that energy- The worst thing that happened to us is driving without a license. It's a good day for us. We'll just ask the officer if they know Bishop. We'll just run down all our questions. Brick of drugs. That too. Oh, I remember. Okay, well the brick of drugs the So we either have to pick one or the other I think moving is why I'm worried of crews coming after us tonight. No

Starting point is 01:01:27 Okay, if lives not I'm sorry if Finn's not worried then let's go to sleep. We've got three ghosts to watch over you While you sleep Are we just I I I'm assuming we're all in one room are we all just staying in one room are we gonna Yeah, you all have one room if you'd like it, but we can stay in one Even the ghosts all the ghosts other rooms. Yeah, I bought them rooms to Personally this is I know this might I just feel like it would probably be wiser if we just did a cuddle puddle

Starting point is 01:02:14 Just sleeping on the separate beds that were on the floor or not. I would just think it would be For security thing if we were just here instead of especially of what we just did that's just my concern Okay, call dibs on the bed T me I'll take the floor I talk to Someone someone keep an eye on the radio Hey, oh, yeah Yeah, let's just set an alarm for witching hour. We'll wake up and we'll see that's in like 30 minutes It's not far. We'll just wake you up if anything happens. All right.

Starting point is 01:02:48 I'm going to go in that really like tight space between the bed and the wall. That's nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Close. I'll toss the blanket down. You're like, use that as a buffer and I'll just use the sheet. Where's Collette? I think that the first thing Collette does is go to a vending machine for a while, just to limit the amount of time in the room. And then when she does come back, she sleeps

Starting point is 01:03:18 on the opposite side of the room. She tries not to make a huge big deal about it, of the room. She tries not to make a huge big deal about it, but definitely keeps her at distance. Okay. Where are the spirits going? Nicole's gonna go stand outside. Okay, cool. Okay. Living here? Yeah, I'll just oscillate between going outside and checking on the lilies. Sam, I'm in the room. I'll be outside in the room.

Starting point is 01:03:52 Okay. With the radio. Eli, and D'Coa. At some point during the evening while you're standing watch, you look down the hall and you see this kind of tall, youngish, maybe early 20s, mid 20s, Japanese woman walking towards you. She's got an undercut kind of dressed all in black and this comes up to you. Long night. And this comes up to you. Long night.

Starting point is 01:04:24 Yeah, you could say that. She's dead by the way. Hmm. How about you? I'm trying to keep up with you all. It's been a challenge. Oh, keeping up with us. Y'all went and met Cruz, huh? Oh, keeping up with us.

Starting point is 01:04:45 Y'all went and met Cruz, huh? I don't think I caught your name. Call me Grace. Grace. We need your help. Okay. We need your help. OK, how can I help you? Well, in one of his last transmissions,

Starting point is 01:05:23 Radio Free Death mentioned there were a bunch of parties converging on Chicago. They're looking for him. For Cruz. Radio free death. Radio free death. Oh. That makes one of us, we haven't had much of a lead. Let's just say I know where he is.

Starting point is 01:05:52 Do you know? And why would you want us to know that information? Oh, I'm sorry, no, I work with him. I work with him, interesting. And we gotta get him out of here. He doesn't wanna leave. So. I'm hoping you can convince him otherwise.

Starting point is 01:06:21 Why does he wanna stay? Let's just say he has a vested interest in what you all are doing. I've advised him of the folly of his interest, but Terrence was always pretty stubborn. Wait, did you say Peril and Name or like a title? I Wait, did you say your name or like a title? Terrence like a name. Oh Terrence. I thought you said parents and I was like What? Oh, no Terrence. Yeah tea. Yeah Terrence like Terry like Terrence and Phillip Like Terrence Howard

Starting point is 01:07:14 So you want us to go and convince him to leave here. Yeah, I don't want you to get him out of here both of us I would like to say since Livini was kind of oscillating between the two I like that he ever kind of walking out through the door in the middle of this and kind of by this person and just picking up quickly this is someone I need to just listen to. Look who it is. Nakoa. Everything all right? This is Grace. So far.

Starting point is 01:07:43 Just getting to know the thing. I think I caught the last half of that. Grace so far. Just I think I caught the last half of that. Yeah. Radio free death. Yeah. How do we know when we talk to Terrence? Yeah. How do you know what? How do we know you are who you say you are? You're not just some NSA stooge.

Starting point is 01:08:12 Was there a transmission tonight? There was not. At least that we haven't heard yet. Yeah. Because I told him it'd probably be a good idea not to. They're in the city, your boy cross. They just the Trump Cruz Rose. They just took out Cruz and Rose. I sure did. And you let him write to him. Well, then what makes you believe that we're not going to lead them right to

Starting point is 01:08:47 radio free death to Terrence? Well, I fully expect you to. But then I expect you to kill cross. I need to wake up the others or you get smart and you ditch your fucking phones, you fucking amateurs I don't have a phone yeah, the dead don't have phones. Yeah, I know you don't have phones through the door. Yeah, I don't have a phone We're I'm walking back through the door, and I'm waiting for this and grace goes inside That is just doing some like lights on everything looks like we were right.

Starting point is 01:09:30 About what? What? What? What? Grace, she's from Radio Free Death. She's just informed us that she believes crosses in town and has already taken out crews and rose. Fuck how we didn't even get to tell him like this and I'll hold up Logan's cell phone. Our singular phone, our one phone that madam Batu gave us that they've been finding us. There's mine too.

Starting point is 01:10:01 I called the DEA the other day. I was going to say and her majesty also. What? No. We do have. It was a burner phone. One day Mayday will learn not to make phones. No, I like to stay for the record. It's a strategy. I was the one to say duffbones.

Starting point is 01:10:16 I'm just saying. We did. We dumped phones in Colorado. Absolutely got booned. Oh no, Kate. Somebody roll with plus technology, please Fuck I have three I got two ones I'm still waking up. Okay, what'd you get surge to successes? Okay? Okay, what does the NSA do? Yeah

Starting point is 01:10:50 Oh, you're so smart Vince You see where they might like ghosts, ghosts don't have phones. You bastard of a man. Yeah, the ghosts were distracted because we were just like, we don't have phones. Yeah, we don't have phones. We don't gotta worry about it. No ghost phones yet. We call it K. We call it D. We call it girlfriends.

Starting point is 01:11:22 We leave the phones in the hotel. What do we do moving forward? That's fair. We go to this radio free death and we see what we can do. Grace here wants us to bring cross to radio free death so that we can finish them off. No shit.

Starting point is 01:11:41 Honestly, it's not gonna do much. A lot of people are interested in RFD, all right Survive this Part of this team. A lot of the talking goes through me, surprising. OK, look, Terrence. I don't want to talk.

Starting point is 01:12:10 Hold on, go on. Wait, who's Terrence? Radio Freedeth. He's been following you guys from the start, OK? Why? He's interested in what you're digging up. You guys survived. He wanted to see what he's been following you.

Starting point is 01:12:24 He can't broadcast. He can only broadcast as far as a radio station. Okay, called it. So he's in the city, we got to get him out of the city and he's got information. Okay, you guys want information? He's got it. We got to get him out. He doesn't know I'm here talking to you. Where is he?

Starting point is 01:12:44 I'm not prepared to tell you that yet. Oh, right. We just learned not to do what I just did. Let's go to him. Do you think Cross coming to get him is going to be what chases him out of the city or Cross being dead is going to get him to leave the city? I just I don't care honestly. He just they're here they hit crows and root they hit crews and rows I mean turn on the fucking news the warehouse is gone. All right turning on the news There is reports of a fire in the industrial area of the city with multiple bodies Cross is always trying to outdo us. We do a fire. He does a bigger fire So it says so obsessed. So obsessed. Wait, but he's cleaning up. I know. Because they're cleaning

Starting point is 01:13:34 out. He's cleaning up loose ends about flatline. That's why he asked you to report back on it because he's clearing it up. And that's why they sent the fucking death merchants and norfias after it burned down to wipe the fucking servers. Oh, fuck. Wait, is he Bishop? Bishop something else. Fuck, OK. How about this?

Starting point is 01:13:59 I feel like we can just gather our stuff. We're going to leave the phones here, and we can have this as we. We're going to leave the phones here. And we can have this as we at least not be in one location. We could be moving. There's something else to me to know. What else? He's got your niece. Who's niece? Who's niece? Mine. Then like really doesn't show a lot,

Starting point is 01:14:26 but there is visibly in her shoulders slump. The worst assumption is true. Oh, Vin. They've been looking for others. He's been looking for Derek. Okay, well, that changes things. Well, I'm more inclined to kill him now. Let's go.

Starting point is 01:14:54 What? I said a bad word in my head, so I can't say that out loud. But I just want to, I heard correctly. You don't care. When? When? Tonight. She's fine. Kate got her out of the city.

Starting point is 01:15:12 Fucking game. That means Kate's still OK. Mm hmm. We need to move. How do you know all of this? We can ask these questions as we move. And go to the car. Go to the car. I'm going to just. Everyone, go to the car. I'm going to just start.

Starting point is 01:15:27 Once everyone's in the car, I'm just going to start kind of driving, but also be mindful of anyone's following. Are we bringing the phones with us? No. If anything, I kind of want to move the phones in the wrong direction, like put it in an outbox or something so it gets moved in another place. If you wanna do that, we can just agree to meet

Starting point is 01:15:50 at this diner in 10 minutes after you've ran off in some other direction. You know what I mean? Oh no, yeah, I was just gonna like put it in. Like a mailbox going out so like a postman runs with it somewhere. Okay. Should I, cause Layla has the other burner phone,

Starting point is 01:16:08 what I could do is like send a message to them and then make it sound like we're actively using it and then we just like maybe drop it off and run or something like that. I mean, there's a chance she doesn't even have it anymore. That is very true, nevermind, not a problem. So we're going to Radio Freed Death, we at least talk to them, and we plan and wait for Cross.

Starting point is 01:16:32 We're gonna wait for Cross. Okay, as we're leaving, I will write a note on a piece of paper that says, sorry, we missed you by the phone. Okay. Oh. That's it, just a... Because I got a feeling someone's going to come back. Would we have slept long enough to regain any of our vitality or willpower or health? Zero.

Starting point is 01:16:55 Okay, cool. That's cool. I'm going to burn a willpower right now to get three vitality back. Okay. That was good. Good, good, good. I think that's a good place to take a break. Yeah. OK. All right.

Starting point is 01:17:10 This one's not so fun. We will be back in 10 minutes. I'll give these these kids a chance to process everything that just happened. We'll see you here shortly. Bye. වවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවව� Music......... ... ... ...

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Starting point is 01:25:28 I'm just trying to figure out what I'm doing. I'm just trying to figure out what I'm doing. I'm just trying to figure out what I'm doing. I'm just trying to figure out what I'm doing. I'm just trying to figure out what I'm doing. I'm just trying to figure out what I'm doing. I'm just trying to figure out what I'm doing. I'm just trying to figure out what I'm doing.

Starting point is 01:25:44 I'm just trying to figure out what I'm doing. I'm just trying to figure out what I'm doing. music වවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවවව�... The End Music Music Music Music Music Music We're back folks. Louis has joined us. So yeah, a lot of happening, so we're going to kick right back into it. Viv, you were disposing of the phones, correct? Yes, cool. Yeah, I put it in whatever the motel outbox is for outgoing mail. Okay.

Starting point is 01:29:57 Holiday Inn. Awesome. Yeah, before you do, one of them rings. Oh, shit. I just, I answer, I don't say anything. I just answer yeah Where's miss dying? Oh Stop with who am I speaking? Oh? Don't play cool. May you know who this is?

Starting point is 01:30:25 Can I take a message You can You can and I believe You Miss Acre are gonna be instrumental And getting the vineyard on board Bring me radio free Death and Disney's Lives. Fail? Well, she dies.

Starting point is 01:30:55 I'll get him anyway and I'll get all of you with him. One, four, let me do the math, seven. And Derek and Layla and Milani and Ajax. What? What? Oh, I didn't stun him, Miss Acre. You either do this for me, or I'll kill everyone you've ever loved. This flat line really that important to you? It is.

Starting point is 01:31:42 More importantly, it's important to the United States government. You want to serve your country, don't you, Miss Acre? Oh, you know, I have to be careful what I say. They're listening. Oh, we've been listening. We've been listening. I do think it's quite adorable that you all thought you could ambush me. Okay.

Starting point is 01:32:13 So, you get radio free death, everybody goes home. Everybody goes home. And you just continue doing what you're doing, you leave the gate open? Yeah. What gate? Leave the gate open. What gate? Wait.

Starting point is 01:32:37 I'm sorry. Hold on. For this one moment it seems like I might know something you don't and I'm just gonna sit in that for a little bit Even if it's not true, just let me have this please I can do that. Thank you. If not agreeable. Thank you It really is quite simple Miss Aker. I'll level with you Project Flatline was illegal People can go to prison.

Starting point is 01:33:08 Very important people. I see, I see. We didn't want you to attack on Orpheus. Contrary to what you and your friends might believe, we used it as an opportunity to consolidate information that had been lost. So who did? Your guess is as good as mine. Oh, currently.

Starting point is 01:33:43 Does Bishop have anything to do with it? He might have everything to do with it? He might have everything to do with it. If I get you Radio Free Death, can you tell me more about Bishop? I think that's a fair trade. Okay. Good to know. Message received. Good. Keep this phone. I need a way to get ahold of you. I'll consider it.

Starting point is 01:34:22 consider it. Actually, I just remember ghosts don't have phones. So, there's a pay phone and it gives you an intersection. You need to get ahold of me or I need to get ahold of you. I'll reach you there. I'm glad there's still someone semi-intelligent and crucible 12. Only because I need this information. You are extremely persuasive. I'll give you that. I know I am.

Starting point is 01:35:04 Be talking to you soon, Miss Lake. Mm-hmm. I hang up. And I go back to my team. Yup. Do you tell us? Sup, you've been gone for a minute? Yeah, there was, I was hard to find the outgoing mail.

Starting point is 01:35:36 It's like behind the business center, it's a little weird. What you, courier? Yeah, yeah, definitely. But it's, you know, every place is different. Oh, okay. Ready to go. Mm hmm. Someone just went for insight check. Did somebody literally just inside. That's all I'm checking the wind. Well, I guess. I get it all over again. It's almost like black smoke almost coming out of their body. And just like, yeah, let's go to the road trip.

Starting point is 01:36:15 Let's hit the road. OK. I guess if you want to make one, it's perception plus empathy. Is it even a contest at this point? Yeah, for you. Well, yeah, like for you, we manipulate, I would get I'd say manipulation plus empathy. OK, I just believe you. Yeah, this is perfection and empathy. Empathy. I got two successes. OK, OK.

Starting point is 01:36:35 Yes. Oh, you do. What is that? It is that. What's the difficulty? Four successes. Five. Oh, shit. oh shit. Oh wait manipulative plus empathy. That's my contest That's yeah Cuz I had a seven I had two successes two successes. So so LaVinia to you. It looks everything's fine Coass up

Starting point is 01:37:02 Co assault Just linger a stair at Vivian a little bit too long before I rejoined everybody in the car Grace kind of piles in with you. I'll give you directions just drive You don't have any phones on you do you I don't know no VIP got him of the Do you need a like honey get my money where he's gonna freak out? No if I give him a warning It's his thesis gonna talk me out of it. He's persuasive as fuck, but Just just roll with me, please

Starting point is 01:37:53 Okay, I think it's gonna go up We've got a narrow window, but we're gonna we're gonna thread the needle thread the needle. So you Grace directs you all to two Illinois Center in the middle of Chicago. It's a high rise building from which a number of radio stations broadcast out of. It's got the huge antenna. I don't think the living are gonna be able

Starting point is 01:38:24 to accompany us in there. We can't go in. I mean, we can't skim. It's closed. Yeah, if you feel comfortable skimming. I can, I can keep the car running if anything. Oh. Do you feel okay being by yourself?

Starting point is 01:38:45 It's not like I can poof right now anyways. Well, no, I was just saying one of us could stay with you if you don't wanna be alone. Actually, if anything, I could just keep driving around the block if that helps. So therefore, constant movement, I'm not sitting at like a sitting duck or something like that. Okay, because I really want to meet this fucker and I don't want to sound selfish, but I am going up there.

Starting point is 01:39:11 Okay. I'm going to go get some coffee. All right. We'll meet you. She gives you the address for a park. It's a couple blocks over. Okay. We'll meet you there. Okay. We'll meet you there. Okay. I'm gonna cover both Colette's body and mine with blankets and give us little air holes for our mouths. Could you keep my feet out of the blanket?

Starting point is 01:39:34 I always get too hot. Yeah, of course. Thank you. With that, you all, Grace kind of leads you into the building. Thankfully Thankfully you don't have to worry about going past security What sure is there's a man's security desk. There's cameras. It would have been very difficult to get in and in Corporeal form at this hour But Gracie leads you in all the way to the studios of

Starting point is 01:40:00 WGC IFM, which is a local radio station, 107.5. And... The, you know, the fuck, what's the term? You lie with where the setup with the, where people broadcast it from. Sound booth? Booth. Yeah, there we go.

Starting point is 01:40:27 Fucking towards the booth. The production booth. Grace once again stops you all and says, he's gonna be skittish. This is the first time anybody's besides me has interacted with him. So give him some space. Don't ambush him all at once, please.

Starting point is 01:40:44 Yeah, yeah, We never do that. You're full of shit, and I know you're full of shit. We're gonna do our best, I swear. I'll keep them in check. All right. When you all walk in, a very much dead, very much departed African-American man in his late 20s, early 30s kind of shoots up seeing you.

Starting point is 01:41:08 You all enter behind grace. Bald, goatee. Grace, what the fuck is this? Terrence relax. Is this them? Are you? Hi. Hey, Terrence.. Is this them? Are you hi? Hey Terrence. Christ how much I'm listener first-time caller. It's good to meet you. What the fuck is this?

Starting point is 01:41:37 Grace and Grace says Terrence we need to get you out of here. You know we need to get you out of here They start arguing back and forth. If we can just interject, Cross is already coming. It doesn't matter where you choose to go at this point. I knew I was getting sloppy. I shouldn't have been fucking following you all. Why were you following us?

Starting point is 01:42:08 Because you're finally getting answers. Why does that matter to you? People need to know. People need to know what's going on. Well, what exactly about flat line about the NSA, about Bishop, all of it. Yeah. Why? If we were to say that we agree with you, we, regardless, need to get out of here because Cross is on our tail. And if you want to see justice and you need to get out of here with us.

Starting point is 01:42:39 All right, fine. God, where are we going? Are we going back to Colorado? What's the plan? Funny question, that's as far as we've gotten. Oh, for fuck's sake, glad to see it's not everything's changed. No, no, it's not that we don't have a plan for the next step,

Starting point is 01:42:58 it's that the next step doesn't quite involve a location for you yet. We're trying to draw out Cross. Oh, you think that motherfucker isn't already eight steps ahead? No, he improves, he ain't Rose. Yeah, we know, but we're running out of options. And if he's eight steps ahead, he's right on top of you.

Starting point is 01:43:24 And so us running to a new location just gives us the same problem there. And there's no guarantee that he won't have that next step on the way there. You all in bring phones, did you? No. No, Vip took Carol. A question about that.

Starting point is 01:43:43 He's after you because you're one of the last bits of flatline. Is it just what you know? Is it information that could be put into, I don't know, like a flash drive or something? Just in case. Spoken into a recorder. Written down as a statement. Something. I'm dead.

Starting point is 01:44:04 The United States government has not figured out how to process evidence Or take testimony from fucking dead people. What if you were to like transfer that testimony and evidence onto one of us living? I think it would be helpful there's gonna have to be proof Okay Okay, do we have any? I guess we'll know. Crews and rows were the fastest thing. Well, there was 12 of us.

Starting point is 01:44:34 I mean, I guess technically 10 now, if they're dead. You were part of it. Yeah. So there's nine more. You survived the purge too. Let's get on my teeth, yeah. Okay, can we get the names of those nine people? Or anything about where they could possibly be?

Starting point is 01:44:57 Just in case something happens to you, it's important that... You don't want anything to do with the others. They're following Bishop. Oh, what's Bishop? Your eye of Bishop he was one of the flatliners He's one one of the 12 yeah the rest follow him He's bad news Why is everyone so afraid of him? 12. Yeah, the rest follow him. He's bad news. Why is everyone so afraid of him? Maybe because this guy shot up his cult congregation before he got arrested

Starting point is 01:45:37 and fucking put in tarot. He was scary alive. He was scared, scary dead, if not more so. So why did he want to take down Orpheus? I haven't figured that out yet. You all are my best chance of figuring that out. Okay. I think it's worth, um, it's worth recording what you know in the meantime. When we get to where we're going? Let me stop it at Best Buy on the way and get a voice recorder.

Starting point is 01:46:15 Do you get, sorry, I'm only like a partial ghost. If you record something, does it just like get picked up like an EVP? Yeah, pretty much. I Mean I can want the tape recorder. I can You can just feed it to one of us and then we'll say into the recorder Okay, I mean we can record him and us and that way maybe there'll be like snatches of it Yeah, I mean just what do you think this is gonna do? We don't know we don't know

Starting point is 01:46:44 Probably won't even matter because he's on his way here now. It crosses this powerful. If we're all taken out, at least there would be something that could survive us. But. All right. He's afraid of this. Whatever.

Starting point is 01:47:00 Because he was the original shot caller. He managed flat lineline it was his baby Yeah, so wait how did how did he get involved in the NSA then if the NSA was creating flatline? He? He is NSA. He was the one in charge of the project You just said he was a cult leader and he shot them and that was how he Oh fuck I got confused. I'm sorry. Cross, cross is an Israel name, obviously. I mean. Durov.

Starting point is 01:47:30 Oh, no, Dura, no, Durov is a different animal. Dura. Eight is gone. Yeah, Dura, I've got eight. We need to aim in a direction. Do we go back? We have allies with Batu. I don't know if we want to get her involved in this.

Starting point is 01:47:47 Regardless, it boils down to we have to somehow meet with Cross. We could go back to the house in Aspen. I don't think bringing him back here. Have a shoot out there to destroy Batu's property? We were talking about going to Terrahote and checking on the penitentiary Matters now That's an active prison. They rebuilt death row back up. I mean, it's not like the whole further down Yeah, it's just just our cell block. Isn't that convenient? Yeah

Starting point is 01:48:21 Why I don't know if this is insensitive, but why were you there? I was, I've been banging since I was eight. Made some mistakes. Yeah. Was gonna pay for them. You always had a passion for the radio? Not until I figured out it was a good way to get the truth out.

Starting point is 01:48:51 Well you helped us a ton. I mean I don't think we would have gotten anywhere without your first transmissions. I am very aware of that. But thank you. I appreciate that. Okay well I'm trying to make that. But thank you. I appreciate that. Okay, well I'm trying to make a connection with you parents. So if you could just make this a two-way street please. Terence Green. That's my name.

Starting point is 01:49:16 Collette Sawyer. What do you want to know? And do we need to do this here? We need to do this here? We need to start moving, I think. Even if we're not just not saying still is probably better. Alright, we just start heading in the direction of Colorado. Okay, but I think it would be good to get a redundancy before we go.

Starting point is 01:49:35 Yeah, because we got to be ready. This may happen on the road if we're leaving like this. Right. He's not a, he's the fucking government man. He's not above he's the fucking government, man. He's not above putting a roadblock out waiting for us on the streets. Freeways. Can I start just looking through the booth and seeing if there's like a like a hand recorder like something that they would like take into the field?

Starting point is 01:49:57 I don't know. Yeah, I'd say easy enough. You're able to find like a check in the offices, especially in ghost form. You're able to find just a handheld tape recorder. Easy enough. Yeah. I mean, honestly, with a computer, you can log in and with all the microphones around,

Starting point is 01:50:11 you can just record something straight to a computer and email it off. Oh, that means sick. But he's, but NSA, I don't want anything digital. I want, and Logan will just hold up the recorder. I want one thing. I'm so proud of you. Love your place. Slowly, but I'm so proud of you.

Starting point is 01:50:30 Try to try to confuse me. No. How would have been the radio free day at the death sessions like the we're doing a fucking podcast with radio free. We have Zencaster open. We're here tonight with Radio Free. Dad.

Starting point is 01:50:51 Yeah, I'm going to I'm going to just have on our quarter. It's it's better if we have it one place that the NSA has no internet access to. Right. I will say he's rogue. I mean, the rest of the government isn't aware he's doing this shit. Flatline was off the books to begin with

Starting point is 01:51:15 Okay, well still he has just because he's rogue doesn't mean he doesn't have resources. Oh, no, he's got resources. Yeah, so one place What is a rogue to a rogue government? Oh See this is why you're ready. That was great, Terrence. You got to write that down. All right. What do you want to know? You're recording. You're rolling tape. This is Terrence Green. Died six years ago.

Starting point is 01:51:33 Are we in the car during this? No, we're in the whatever the headquarters is. Do we want to do this in the car? Or do we want to do it here? We should do it here before we go. Okay. Let's go's go to be safe. It was an inmate two three seven three and tear USP tarot. Project Flatline, what do you all know about how Orpheus started?

Starting point is 01:51:59 From Flatline. So 2001, right? You had Bob Jackson, yet Andale Greco. They formed this company called JDG Cryogenics. Their whole thing was let's freeze rich people and then bring them back to life when their incurable illnesses can be cured. Right? Well, we had Dr. Eduardo Fernandez or they did Dr. Eduardo Fernandez. He figured out how to essentially keep ice crystals from forming in the bloodstream and killing the body.

Starting point is 01:52:35 And it was the breakthrough they needed, right? So then they froze this, They froze Jane Kennedy. Revived her. She talked about how she was outside of her body, could go places, see things, new information that nobody else knew. And she became one of the head shot collars in Orpheus. They were looking for ways to master projection. They got this doctor, Dr. Anders Cotillion. He helped them crack the code on the drugs that they use. And it was off to the races, right?

Starting point is 01:53:16 We've got private investigators who can go anywhere, see anything, hear anything. Of course, the government wanted in on it. They needed to test it. And so Project Flatline, NSA funded them. NSA got them access to us. And they started testing. Bob Jackson, the CEO, wasn't a big fan of getting in bed with the government.

Starting point is 01:53:43 And oh, isn't it convenient? He died of a fucking heart attack. Anyway, there's 12 of us on death row. They started freezing us, injecting us with the drugs, seeing what could happen. And I mean, shit, when you're sitting in a fucking cell waiting to die and all of a sudden you're outside of your body, you can go anywhere and do anything, you're not going back.

Starting point is 01:54:11 Yeah. Yeah. We didn't go back. And they wanted to cover their tracks and so they, the NSA burned it down. Orpheus didn't ask them to do that, but. The NSA burned it down Orpheus didn't ask him to do that but And Your eye Bishop led the let a bunch of them off into the ether We don't know where your eyes now. He went full Jonestown. He's hiding somewhere. Yeah

Starting point is 01:54:39 That's a cult leader always a cult leader. Yeah That's a cult leader, always a cult leader. Yeah. Um... And that's been it. I played low and... How did you survive the Purge? What was it? Every specter you could think of coming through the storm wall. What's the storm wall?

Starting point is 01:55:01 The shroud, the storm wall, it's what they call it. It's what separates us from them. The veil. The veil, damn. The big door. Every specter you can think of come through. All of a sudden you've got these spirits walking around with full vitality. It's like a buffet. So they had a culling. They consumed?

Starting point is 01:55:25 Yeah. Yeah. Everyone and everything. This wasn't something Orpheus or Cross wanted, it just happened. You play with fire, you get burned eventually. So we, it's sort of like our investigations. If you make a big enough splash, sometimes things come through carrying after the waves. We made a wave so big that everyone came. Orpheus dead, yeah. The next world in Terral and Squib, yeah.

Starting point is 01:55:58 Do you think Orpheus being taken off map, may have caused another ripple? No, I think it's part of the ripple. Okay, it's just a continued symptom. This ain't a one-way mirror, or where the only one's looking through. There's things on the other side that you don't want anything to do with. There look there's there's things on the other side that you don't want anything to do with

Starting point is 01:56:29 Or they I Mean do you know if they were Were they people or are they other entities Some used to be Somewhere never people to be, some or never people. So there's something else out there?

Starting point is 01:56:54 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lots. Are you saying, Viv? No, just a whole cloth. It's not a cloth. Yeah. Moving from one word to the next. It's organic. I mean, do we know that the things that came through are bad? Maybe they just...

Starting point is 01:57:18 They're bad. Okay, yeah. I mean, you were a smoke jumper, right? Yeah. Was a fire bad? No, it just was. Just because it destroyed things doesn't mean it's, it's bad, fire also is good.

Starting point is 01:57:35 There's always, there's two sides of everything. Take the fire, remove any benefit whatsoever, and then just, that's it, they consume for the sake of consumption. They're out of control. Regardless of what they are, we still have the cross problem at hand that we need to solve. I know he's ahead of us. I know that he is going to anticipate almost anything we do, but we have to try nonetheless. If he's coming, we have to try one way or another

Starting point is 01:58:14 to outsmart him. Yeah, we got to do something he wouldn't expect of us. And I agree, but if we don't do this right, then, you know, he has some of our own. That... I'm perfectly aware of that, yes. Yeah. You know, we took a run at Layla, right? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:58:42 Grace told us. right? Yeah. Grace told us. I'm not saying anything specific. I just think it's important to make sure that all of the failstates are considered. Believe me, I have considered it.

Starting point is 01:59:01 I considered it the moment that Orpheus was destroyed. My niece's life is forfeit. Do I want that to happen? No. Do I want Cross to get what he deserves? Yes. I don't know if I'm willing to, I don't know. Do you think if we go through with this with Cross

Starting point is 01:59:22 that they'll still pull the trigger on our loved ones. Probably. We become radio free death. We become the people that know too much. Yeah, he's not going to let you all walk away. He knows you spoke to Cruz and Rose. Why do you think he hit him when he did? So then the only thing that makes sense

Starting point is 01:59:43 is that we have to hit him before he hits us. Yeah. But if we hit him, he's still a government official, and we all go to jail, and then we are theirs to do with what they want. Not with what we just recorded. With what we just recorded, we can make an argument, just like we did before, that we were targeted by someone who

Starting point is 02:00:01 was already breaking the law. This is a man who took prisoners and experimented on them without the knowledge of our government. This is something we can use. This is something- That hasn't ever stopped the government before though. They-

Starting point is 02:00:16 There are people- You're basically slave labor, you know that. I don't think that convincing the government is the main idea. The thing, and I think is most important is that radio free death and project flatline live past tomorrow with someone. Look we keep talking about a ghost has never been, you know, has never been brought in as evidence.

Starting point is 02:00:44 Well there's a thing called precedent and The times are changing ghosts are here. They're not going away We have to take some kind of stand we have to do what we can with what we have You still have connections to the Bureau, right? We've got Kate we've got connections with Colette who's the guy that bailed you out when all this shit cleared up? What was his name? Gibson? Yes. I got you. That's his name. Matthew Gibson.

Starting point is 02:01:17 Hmm. Deputy Director. Deputy Director Matthew Gibson. I mean, well know him well. He believed us, I guess that's something. Well, he's the only reason you were still allowed to walk free. Well, maybe we could give him a call once Cross is taken care of and say, hey, we've got evidence we're ready to talk again. Round two. What are you going to do to try to bring him in?

Starting point is 02:01:46 I don't see what choice we have. The other choice we have is letting the world assume we killed a man in cold blood. You're saying we call him after we kill Cross? Yes, because I don't think we'll have time for a phone call before then. Great, yeah, no, I was gonna say, if we call him before, Cross is just gonna know.

Starting point is 02:02:06 Yeah. I think that Cross is so immediate it needs to be taken care of now. There is reason in a court of law that makes sense. We've been cornered. Our lives, your lives are literally at stake. We have to do something. Is he sure he's going after people? It's like the next World House.

Starting point is 02:02:25 We're being backed into a corner by someone who thinks that they have more power over us. And in the end, if we show what we know, then at least someone will believe us. They did before, we have to believe that they will again. Abandoning hope now is just giving into letting Cross win. They've got bullets that can hurt you, you know that, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:02:52 No. The dead among you. What? Like Shred Gauze? It's another tarot and squib innovation. Now- Fuck those guys, God! So it doesn't matter either way. Called ghost shot.

Starting point is 02:03:09 That'll rip apart your gauze like flesh. Well, one way or another, we either come out of this alive or we don't. All of us. I still haven't heard a fucking plan, you all. I think we need to lay a trap. I think that if we get into a situation where we're standing opposite his forces, we don't have any chance of winning.

Starting point is 02:03:35 We need to carrot stick in box. We need to get him in a situation he's not expecting and then blow him sky high. I don't know. What if one of us acted as if we were acting outside of the group's interest and said that they had radio free death and trying to parlay something with Cross separate from the group that way he's not expecting us to work hiding in the shadows. So like you give him a call and say, hey, I'm ready to deal. I want my niece back. I'm I'm on your side.

Starting point is 02:04:13 Would he believe that? You know, he's going to kill you all anyway, right? Yeah. Well, Terrence, that is not helping the atmosphere in the room. Okay? Yeah, this is a brainstorming session and you're squashing down storms, buddy. Why are we doing this without our fucking person who knows law enforcement? We should just, we need to do this in the car with Mia. Yeah. Mia knows, Mia knows shit though like we don't you know plans like we don't honestly

Starting point is 02:04:51 Okay, Terrence kind of leans around and says it looks at Koa You're the single brain cell they share among them Hey, fuck you Terrence. He's not wrong. Did your mute button break or something? Oh, no. Well, we may have lost them. Oh, no. We need Koa and Koa. Koa.

Starting point is 02:05:26 It was somewhere else. It's a very long pregnant pause in the edit. Koa was foreboding. Maybe. Oh no. Yeah, they're just going to be saying more stuff. When the world needed the most. A single solitary brain cell of Crucible 12.

Starting point is 02:05:42 Yeah, that's a good idea. The bait thing is good. Oh, I think we had somebody who was selling us out. Oh, we got a call back. Let's go back. Hi. Hello. Excellent. My view better wouldn't turn off. Sorry. No.

Starting point is 02:06:01 What was the question? If you had any if you wanted to add anything to the conversation since you are one of the Crystal 12's only solitary brain cells. That's kind. I mean, I don't know. Well, what what what are you currently even debating about? I mean it just seems that at the end Crosses the epicenter of all of this stuff Crosses the epicenter of all of this stuff

Starting point is 02:06:46 And We don't have to take him out per se, but there just has to be a way to Ensure that he doesn't continue on and that's that's the only problem I mean what I always break people's legs and keep them alive so they can't run What if you get them on tape? Get them on video confession. That's a good confession. Yeah. You just have to make sure one of us survives long enough to get a

Starting point is 02:07:10 confession to someone who actually matters. Yeah. I mean, Cross is arrogant and he's self-absorbed and he wants to know in some way, let everybody know that he's, you know know one orchestrating all of this That could sell that could be his the his overall downfall I mean listen and he wants to talk to us regardless this guy is underestimated y'all from the beginning use that to your advantage Our idiots. Yeah Why you're lucky

Starting point is 02:07:51 Listen, I know I'm a the bus and shops here, but you made it this far for a reason. Can you make a ghost? No. Can make a person, though. Right. But a person. That means the person's life is in danger being so close. Listen, don't get it twisted. You all are on the same playing field now because they've got ghost bullets.

Starting point is 02:08:11 But if I if if I were to manifest, I could like hold a wire effectively. I mean, you'd have to get it there to begin with. Yeah. So you'd be wires floating. I mean, I could put them in my pocket and then When we get there we wire you up real fast. It's it's gotta be one person Why are you wiring Vivina? Vin

Starting point is 02:08:36 Well, the Vinya already has a connection across it. I mean it's natural. She's used she's useful the niece Cross is waiting for her. Why would it be you? Not saying that like, it shouldn't be you Viv, but like you're usually gunna hand, right? Like, what's the thought? Yeah. Just, okay.

Starting point is 02:09:02 We're sure, right? Just we're sure that no matter how we play this, people that Cross has are gonna get hit, right? Even if we convince him, if we record him, if we kill him, unless Cross has stopped, the hostage people aren't safe. Right? I don't see at this point how we get out of this without Cross dying.

Starting point is 02:09:24 And we're not safe now, right? I don't see at this point how we get out of this without cross-dying. And we're not safe now, right? No, no. And it doesn't matter if Cross gets you and she points to Radio Free Death to Terence. What? What? Right? Probably be better if someone who actually experienced it and isn't in a cult. Right, but we have the redundancy.

Starting point is 02:09:50 Viv, what are you getting at? Grace is like... Yeah, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, Grace is here. Yeah, I forgot about Grace. Just cross. I handled the phones and cross. Left a message.

Starting point is 02:10:14 Like a voicemail. A little bit more life than that. He called. All. Yeah. Why didn't you tell us? Because he made some salient points. A salient point. Like what?

Starting point is 02:10:35 Like he has Ajax and I just wanted to make sure that I was making the right decision. I didn't wanna just choose the objectively good looking choice because it was something that we would all agree to or seemed heroic Maybe there was a way to finesse Something that we could all be okay with And it doesn't seem like that's possible So what are you saying? I'm saying if we want to get cross on the phone. I have a way to do that

Starting point is 02:11:05 and it's under the assumed premise that I'm saying if we want to get cross on the phone, I have a way to do that. And it's under the assumed premise that Terrence gets delivered to cross. And you were just keeping this in your back pocket? Just, I didn't. We would have all tried to do the heroic thing, and that's not always the right idea. I didn't. So you've reminded us in the past.

Starting point is 02:11:29 Look, I've known I've been on borrowed time from day one, okay? It's a fucking miracle I made it out of that prison. Yeah, but. If this helps you get this guy. But it doesn't. There's no guarantee that he would stop or that any of us or our people would be safe.

Starting point is 02:11:49 But it gets us in the door, right? That's a positive, even if I don't like the way you went about this, it gets us in the door. Look, what I've been able to find out, the only person he has currently in his possession, and he points at you Viv are alive So the only one he's got he took a run at a couple others He hasn't snag them up yet from what we can tell from what my sources are telling me

Starting point is 02:12:15 But who are your sources? How do you how do you have you know all this information all this time? I get people everywhere How do you convince them to help you? How do they communicate with you? You don't have ghost phones. This is, I mean, this isn't important information. I'm just confused and I Grace can get around Okay, I'll just take that. I'll ask more questions later if we all survive this honestly She's a fanzare. I understand. I understand where viv was coming from. I I might second guess questions later if we all survive this honestly. She's a fan. I understand. I understand where Viv was coming from. I might second guess things too if I was given something.

Starting point is 02:12:50 But regardless, they have told us the truth and we now know it. It's been a late to never. Yeah. And just in the future, we already do a lot of gas lighting, but we usually tell each other when we're doing it. Can we be a little more forward about when we're lying to each other? If it was, I was just trying to do the best possible outcome. Sometimes it's not good if we all know everything.

Starting point is 02:13:17 At least not all at once. If there was a way, if there was a way to make sure that we all came out of it okay and you didn't know then that would be fine Yeah, I just don't think that you should make decisions for everyone in a vacuum. That's all We should probably go get your other friend and maybe figure out the fuck we're doing yes fine Just downstairs get to the car We'll move downstairs, get to the car. I'm gonna start looking as we go just for like other little like mics or something.

Starting point is 02:13:50 So we since we talked about wiring someone, I'm gonna just like look and see if there's like a lab or something I can just grab on the way out. Yeah, there's yeah, you could grab like a lapel mic or something like that. Yeah, just something little. We'd also have to bring a receiver with us, right? Like a little. We'd also have to bring a receiver with us, right? Like a little... That's right. Which it's possible we'd have like a mobile set up if it had a battery with us, but we'd

Starting point is 02:14:11 also have to be close enough for it to be in range and record. Or you just hook it up to the hand recorder you got and it's not live, but... Is that true? We could just put the hand recorder on person and call that a... Yeah, we'll do that. Yeah, we'll do that we'll do that so should we just I can call cross how we left all of our phones yeah we found a way around that they probably have a way to contact each other right ghosts don't have phones, but there's still some

Starting point is 02:14:49 You know pay phones around so if we need to call him I'll go call him He's gonna expect us to ambush him. We all have to know that right this can't He's gonna expect it if we're bringing Terrence to him, he's going to plan for us. He's not gonna meet you guys. He's gonna call you to him. You know, he's going to choose the time, the place, the location. Which means that we will be on our back foot. How do we get to him before he gets to us? How do we find where he is? You don't.

Starting point is 02:15:22 We can say that you, the truth that you don't want to leave. You refuse to leave if he wants you, he has to come here. Maybe. He's not gonna... He'll just keep doing what he's doing. It's worth a shot, I guess, but... Hmm. I mean, but... Hmm. I mean, I got the... I think I just have the one. I mean, he doesn't know that you know that we...

Starting point is 02:15:52 He doesn't know that we know what you did, right? No. No. So, I mean, if you want to... If we want to use that to our advantage, we pull it and say that you said you would go after him alone and that he's just here with you and that the rest of us are chasing some other lead

Starting point is 02:16:12 with Grace or something. He might be confident enough in his own bullshit that he believes that. I don't, I mean, we hide after that. I'm sure he's going to have spooky eyes, you know, but... I don't know, I don't know. This all sucks. Yeah. If we know he's in town, there's got to be a way to track him.

Starting point is 02:16:54 As a, as, as your storyteller, you also have two banchees capable of foreboding. Yeah. I'm not capable of foreboding. That's not anything I can do. I took witches in this instead. Oh, that's true. That's right. Yep. Good. I only have two vipers. Would it be worth, I don't remember how receptive Jacob was, but if he's a ghost with a bunch of cats,

Starting point is 02:17:12 that's like 32 eyes. I mean, having with the cats to tell us anything is the thing. I don't think the cats would, but I think that Jacob could look out for us if we had a lead to give Jacob. We know that they've burnt down Cruises like building. We could see if he was there and forbode there. But regardless, we'd have to follow him. It's like a like a C option, like a D option, but if we needed it, it couldn't be us. I've got a small thought to at least get him on one of our home playing fields.

Starting point is 02:17:54 And if you don't like it, just we can move on. But I was thinking, if we sent Viv to meet with him alone, with the express understanding that Viv is this mole. Viv explains that we all are taking radio free death to go and find one of the others that Cross is hunting. Maybe it's Layla, maybe it's whoever it might be, Ajax, whatever. Bishop, Bishop. Exactly. Then we express that free death is with us

Starting point is 02:18:28 at Leila's location, whatever. Kross will be forced to come and pick up his package. Make it seem as though Viv tried to convince us into giving over radio free death. We were against it and kicked her out of the group. Said, no, we don't want you and that doppelganger shit messing with us. Clearly you betrayed us, get the fuck out of here,

Starting point is 02:18:50 you're not with us anymore. She goes and plays the other side. We play the side with Leila. We set a trap on whoever it is we decide to bring Cross to. And we hope that for some reason he appears or his people appear and we can at least use them to get back to him. That sounds like a plan.

Starting point is 02:19:14 I don't love the part where Viv's alone, but I mean, I don't think that we have any other options at this point. I was gonna be alone either way. Yeah, before you told us that was the plan, so it might as well be the plan now. Exactly. We don't do well separated. I'm just gonna lay that out. I'm just gonna point out

Starting point is 02:19:37 that this group does dumb shit when we separate. More dumb shit than we usually do, I guess. separate, more dumb shit than we usually do, I guess. They just going to like relax, and you will see the like, myriad of spites that are like, stains that are like creeping over their gauze. So there's, there's like, and this is all flavor, like no mechanic benefits, but like, there's a little bit more skeletal form.

Starting point is 02:20:08 There's like spider bristles and like compound eyes slowly happening. I think we're as good or as bad as we always are, regardless. That's not gonna to change anything. Yeah. Yeah. Where, where do we say that we're going? You said Layla, do we have an idea of where Layla could be? I don't know if I actually want to put Layla in danger.

Starting point is 02:20:40 Yeah, we should talk to Mia before we make a decision on that, but we have other targets. We can use my dad. We could use Ajax. We could... You need to pick somebody in the city. He's not going to leave. I mean, he's here. He controls the territory.

Starting point is 02:20:54 He's not going to wait for you guys to drive back to Colorado. He wants me now. We can't choose Vin's niece. He has her. That would still be in his field. Do we have anyone here? Can we bring them to us? I don't know.

Starting point is 02:21:09 We can get a phone here, can't we? It doesn't matter where they are. Cross has to just think they're here. Right, yeah. Yeah, okay. The phone and, I don't know, Gmail sign in, that'll do it. I mean, no, there's phones in the booth. So we need a neutral location in Chicago

Starting point is 02:21:29 where this is all gonna happen then. Oh, fuck. Grace and Terrence start going back and forth about the viability of this plan about him putting himself at risk. Where's Mia? Did we read convene with Mia? I think we've been like slowly like walking to the door

Starting point is 02:21:53 and then stopping and have a cup of coffee. Okay. We go all the way and stop. Can I be a little driving? Okay. Mia, do you want to be here for this conversation? I can snap back and oh, oh no I shouldn't snap back. I'm already very.

Starting point is 02:22:06 You'll take some damage. Yeah, I'll take some damage. I'll take some damage. Okay, one suit. We're just gonna like just so you know, cause off of the directions of the park, we'll go but we'll not like kind of park it. We'll, it's kind of just kind of driving

Starting point is 02:22:22 and just to make sure that there's constant movement. So that's what she's doing. I think we'll get we'll pick me up like we'll either jump in the car or get them to park and come up. Yeah. And once I see you, then I'll just pull over. Yeah. Eventually. Okay, so we go shopping. I want to say that. So we have a fake Layla. What? Close by.

Starting point is 02:22:49 Oh, shit. So much happened. Jeez. Yeah, we'll just say we've brought Milla. Yeah. We've brought Milla up to speed. Milla's processing all this. Okay.

Starting point is 02:22:59 Okay. We just need to convince the NSA that Layla's here yeah then you all will go check on Layla and I will go meet with Cross to say that they're gonna go check on Layla first and there's no other way around it so if you want radio free death you gotta hit. Did my best. We say we're meeting Layla at that big bean in Millennium Park. We're going to do it at the bean. You want to fight an NSA agent at the bean? Hey, it's public.

Starting point is 02:23:35 Wait, I think that's what we want to get all this out in the public. Question. I just have to ask, does anyone have any effing devices on them? No, we've established that already. No, no, no, I'm so sorry because NSA they like they can hear that stuff too That's why I was just double-checking. No walkie-talkie scenario happening Attached to the fuck. I hate the stupid thumbs-up thing Does that happen when you do this? But does that happen when you do this? Everyone's been doing that. I've been wondering what that's about.

Starting point is 02:24:05 Yeah. I didn't know what it was. I hate it. I pause in the game really quick. Basically, if you upgraded your software, if you do a couple of motions like this, double thumbs up, you will get fireworks. How do I make it not do that? I hate it.

Starting point is 02:24:17 You go through the settings. You go through the settings and there is something about, we'll talk afterwards. But yeah. That's fine. I think even have a thumbs down. Oh, shit. settings and there is something about we'll talk afterwards. Oh, shit. OK. Incredible. Anyway. God damn it. OK, my God.

Starting point is 02:24:37 Terrible. This is the Zencaster. This is through everything. This is through any discord, FaceTime, Zoom. I don't do it. This is through everything. This is through any discord, FaceTime, Zoom. Oh, no shit. Yeah. Pick a move. It's nothing.

Starting point is 02:24:50 Okay, anyway. Anyway, back on track. So we were asking a question about the where, where Layla is going to be. I think if you went after her, wouldn't he know where she's at a little bit? That like I just want to make sure I brought her Kate snagged her and took her home Yeah, we need to make it like we're saying is we're meeting with Kate or something Kate and Layla at a location here in Chicago Yeah, okay at the beam which aligns with the last broadcast

Starting point is 02:25:20 Everyone's converging on Chicago I'm also cool. Okay with meeting the Art Institute of Chicago. Why are we trying to do this in an artistic setting? I think we're gonna do performance in great- Those people are just- This is a podcast and we need something cool that would knock people into. Hey, Viv, make an intelligence plus,

Starting point is 02:25:44 what's your sec-- uh, intuition? Yeah. Intelligence plus intuition. Yeah. What's that pull for you? Two. Ha ha ha. What about security?

Starting point is 02:25:56 Two. Ha ha ha. Okay. I have good security and intelligence. How about wits? How about wits plus any of those? Three. Go for that. Amazing. Two successes, two successes.

Starting point is 02:26:11 OK, problem. If depending on when Cross took a run at Layla, there is no fucking way. Travel Layla and Kate are now in Chicago. It's got to be days. It's got to take time. And we don't know how they're doing. What state they're in. It has to be. I think, hold on. There's got to be a way. One of my, have we tried calling Kross yet? I was just saying that can happen. Well we call him and then he's just gonna say

Starting point is 02:26:50 meet me where I want you to meet me. And I can still say it's gotta be here. And we're exactly where we were before. Either he says yes or we're on his turf. The same premise of, you know, they're about to go check out. They're going to go check on Layla soon. You know, we're running out of time. It has to be now.

Starting point is 02:27:13 Before the hand, that'll make it. Yeah, I guess what's frustrating is that we can't seem to figure out an advantage. Like, yeah, we don't really have a leverage yeah we just don't have anything there's I feel like no there is something we could honestly we are a loose end to him as well oh yes coa do you do you coa do you remember the the foreboding um for boating vision you had last time? Yes. Burning barn or a barn with a bunch of dead people in it? Something like that.

Starting point is 02:27:52 Dead? Wow. Oh. I was gonna say we get an Airbnb and we just go out in the boonies somewhere. Minimize casualties. Barn? Yeah. Would that be where he was was out in the woods? That's an option. Oh, there is that Means get a little bit more seclusion. There's less cameras everywhere

Starting point is 02:28:17 I'm fine with it as long as it means that he has to come to us right and It tracks with radio free death Like it but it doesn't seem like a trap. It's in character We go to lay low somewhere out in the boonies and then You leave because we found out you were a traitor. I Think I just add I think I'm still a traitor and Where we are is where it has to be Yeah, that's where you're heading.

Starting point is 02:28:46 So the idea is we don't know that you're... No. But that also... All we're doing is relaying to cross where we're heading, and that's where he'll have to meet us, instead of trying to square up with him, just direct him where we're heading. That also leaves us with a lot of him having the capacity to bring a fuck ton of people to fuck our shit.

Starting point is 02:29:07 Not if well, he's going to bring a fuck ton of people no matter where we go. He's armed to the teeth ready for us. See, you know, I feel like if there's a matter of worrying about whether or not he's worried about whether or not he's going to bring an arsenal to us, is irrelevant. He already is going to bring an arsenal for us. But if we keep it, if we make him expedited though, he may not have everything that he wants.

Starting point is 02:29:31 That's the thing that I think by keeping, it makes sense that I would be concerned in every moment. We waste trying to figure out whether or not we're going to get ahead of Cross. He's getting ahead of us. So much just we either need to make a stance for ourselves and arm ourselves the best we can or, I don't know, go on the run, but we're debating too much about this. Okay.

Starting point is 02:29:54 So we're worried about something that we have no control over. So quick here the barn. I'm not mad at the barn. We have more space. We'll go to the barn and with what time we have, we'll try to prepare, maybe set a couple of traps. I don't know. You said ghost bullets and all that. What else do you know that we... like, help us help you. Think of this. What else you got? We haven't yet. Hi, I'm Mia.

Starting point is 02:30:21 I know, I know he is. Okay, great. Hi, I'm Mia. That's how you can be going. I know. I know he war. Yeah. OK. Great. They have Carillion technology. They have ghost bullets. They've got they can see you. They can shoot you. I mean, what else do you need? Well, OK.

Starting point is 02:30:33 How do you manufacture these ghost bullets? They got to come from. I don't know. Terrell. That's a Terrell and Squibber Priotary secret that I haven't managed to crack yet. The only reason I know about that is because of Grace. I think our only protection against those bullets is dodging those bullets.

Starting point is 02:30:48 Yeah. Yeah. Grace, is there anything else like things that we need to be aware of? Since Grace is with us in choir. Yeah, yeah. You're not fighting Tarot on Squib, but I mean, I don't know. All right, anything else you got? That's the... oh, not right now. I'm still waiting to hear the fucking plan. So we go to the... well, we make the decision to go to the barn. I call Cross and say we're on the way to the barn and it has to happen now if you're gonna go get him. What barn?

Starting point is 02:31:23 Koa? She... Koa saw a barn. him what barn Carla She color saw a barn Yeah, we have to get to find a line to go What kind of bar how this there's way too much we're moving around Like is there we need to do another promoting in the future for us how's that

Starting point is 02:31:50 have we considered giving up have we considered seeing into the future to see what does it barns fear me we could, we go back we go get a phone, we google barns near us we look at the pictures and we see which one matches the vision.

Starting point is 02:32:07 I completely lost the ability to guide you all when you gave up the phones. I have no way to control the situation. I just feel like if we Google Barnes near us, he's just gonna like nuke us. He's gonna see that, he's gonna see how dumb that string words are, and he's gonna nuke us. He's gonna shoot us from the sky. No, he'll think you're stupid. He's gonna keep underestimating us. We have to use that advantage. Yeah, should be stupid.

Starting point is 02:32:35 Your stupid. Time out really quick. Should we use a pay, we can, we have the numbers still. I'm gonna use a pay phone. That's probably gonna call Cross. Well, yeah, you, but we could still reach out to Kate or something We could yeah. Yeah, that's where I'm like I don't remember it's number

Starting point is 02:32:52 Regardless Kate can't help us right now besides words of encouragement wherever they are they're too far from us to be helpful I think we have to I'm just saying we just need to find a piece of property whether we ruin somebody's Airbnb Or we just drive somewhere and send him the coordinates. I don't know what more to do. Doom to repeat all over again. We've got a different Airbnb's fucking ruining them. I can still talk to the person. Political act. I'm not mad at it.

Starting point is 02:33:21 But we could also just go back to the near the residence word. Was it Jake Jacob with the cats? I know that sound. But if we go that's not the idea. It's still, you know, an act of fucking crime. It's still hot scene. We're not doing that. That's me talking out loud guys. No, it's it's yeah,'s fair. Cause it is one of the places we know where it is, which is not what the barn is. So I see how you got there. I love you all so fucking happy.

Starting point is 02:33:54 Well, thank God for that. I think it's either here or we try to find the barn. And I don't know if it changes the odds too much either way. We just need to make sure that the redundancy is somewhere that can't be burned to the ground. That's a hard, there's a lot of things that can burn. Not concrete really. You just go with a lot of concrete.

Starting point is 02:34:12 Do you wanna find an abandoned pool? I can find an abandoned warehouse in Chicago. Oh, that's true, you could, couldn't you? Mm-mm, yeah, yeah. What is the, where does the barn enter into all of this? What is a barn but a warehouse? What is a barn but a where? You know what poetry poetry? Oh Boy, okay, is there any active reason talked ourselves into a corner. I don't know. Yeah, I know

Starting point is 02:34:41 I liked my plan. I don't know where The only reasonable thing now is we just go to cross. Yeah. Yeah, is there any? We've talked too much. We have to do. There's no reason. I don't think unless we can come up with one, we're doing it here would be specifically

Starting point is 02:34:56 shitty. Significantly shittier than finding this elusive barn. What in the radio station right now? That's what you're saying? Yes. Or just in this? Okay? I mean Yeah, I don't know yeah, honestly, I don't think the location is gonna be the thing that gets us killed Wait a minute that is the thing though. We're in like a high-rise. Are we yeah?

Starting point is 02:35:18 It's hard to say I rise have Viv go and say they're talking to him right now come now and we're just ready for him. Yeah, we found our barn guys, we found the barn. Okay, I'm here for that. Is there anything before that call happens that we need to prepare like hour two hours tops? We need to consider the fact that none of us have weapons in a way that will actually affect them outside of our bodies that they can kill us on site that three of us have weapons in a way that will actually affect them outside of our bodies,

Starting point is 02:35:46 that they can kill us on sight, that three of us are alive and could die, and we need an effective way of taking out as many of them from the jump as possible. Okay, hold on. We need... Colette, you and I need to skim for this. Okay. And you need to have the recorder in your pocket. Your real pocket, so that when this goes down, if it all goes bad, we can get it to the DEA. Where are we putting my body? In the car. Okay. Wait, no, they'll know the car and then they'll kill the car.

Starting point is 02:36:19 Never mind. Fuck. Is there a hotel near here? Oh yeah. I'll go, before we make this call, go, I'll book a room, I'll put my body in there with the recorder, I'll get the room under a different name, I'll see if I can pay cash and we'll go from there. Okay, cool.

Starting point is 02:36:42 Easy enough. That leaves Cool. Easy enough. That leaves the question of weapons. We need something that's going to take out a lot of them quick, even if it's a conjunction of what we can do. Because the longer we leave them standing, the more options they have of erasing some of my friends from existence. Well, that's explosives. That's fire.

Starting point is 02:37:02 I mean, I can be an explosive. Does Hell's Angels have weapons? Can we say that we didn't fuck them up and someone is deliberately trying to fuck them up in exchange for weapons? I'm on other things. Could we... And I'm spitballing.

Starting point is 02:37:20 How did we come up here in elevator vents? Uh, yeah, elevator stairs. There's multiple avenues of approach. If we cut the elevator line and then we exposed like a gas leak on one of the floors and then they were forced to take the stairs and then we used Logan to trigger the gas with the fire. We can blow out one of the the floors. That's a good idea. And see how many of them we could take before they get up here. It would also evacuate the building.

Starting point is 02:37:58 We could bring an elevator. Would be safer. Yeah. I mean, we'd be above the flames, but we have a lot better of a chance to get out and we have a Well, we have a firefighter with us. Oh, yeah Well, if you have a fire fighter Yeah You could also just make sure that the Stop the emergency stop on that thing to make it the active so we can do that or all ghost

Starting point is 02:38:22 Maybe maybe we should all be ghosts. I know what that means, Mia, but we put the bodies in that hotel room and then we don't have to worry about it at all. Terrence, you're already a ghost. What about Grace? Grace is all, yeah. Grace is all dead.

Starting point is 02:38:41 If we're all gauze, we don't really have to worry about the fire as much. I mean, that can still hurt us. My fire can hurt us. Yes, but I mean, we'll at least have a better chance of surviving than our bodies, because I tell you what, my body is not good with fire, I found out. I found out that fire is sort of a weakness

Starting point is 02:39:01 for everything that's alive. Yeah, my body is definitely flammable. So that's the plan, we're doing it here? Yes. Kola, can you show me how you would take the pigment? Me, I love, I'm not doing that. Yet, no, me, me. Yeah, I can't show you, love.

Starting point is 02:39:32 I can't be around it, I can't be in the room. Mia, I don't know if the future of your afterlife is worth this. I know I gave you the brick, but I'm thinking about it. Do I have a brick with you? Oh yeah. Oh Jesus Christ. Mia, there's gotta be some other way that you can be useful. A getaway car, someone to call the police.

Starting point is 02:40:03 You're either off the scene or you're risking your real life. Well, isn't that what else everyone else is doing at the moment? Yeah, but we all have burners, kind of. And there's just, there's not a lot of coming back from that, man. I know it doesn't seem it, but I promise you, I do have some very, very strong capabilities when I am on the other side.

Starting point is 02:40:28 We know that. No one's doubting that. Yeah, it's just coming back to this side that becomes comfortable. Then how about we just do, in case shit hits the fan? I mean, shit will hit the fan. It is hitting the fan. So what do you expect me to do, guys?

Starting point is 02:40:45 To just, like, maybe Mia's the one that holds on to the recording. Are you OK with sitting outside while this happens? Because if it goes bad, you just won't hear anything. Very well. How about, OK. I don't want to leave her in the car, though, because they're going to see our car and they're going to fuck up our car. Well, then how about I'm. I don't want to leave her in the car though, because they're gonna see our car and they're gonna fuck up our car.

Starting point is 02:41:06 Well then, how about I'm in the room with the bot. What, you got... If it, I mean... Yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll snap back if it gets really bad and tell you to go. Well then, there you go. Your FBI friend, we're outside of their jurisdiction. But would it be all right?

Starting point is 02:41:24 It might be helpful to have someone talking to them in the moment, or calling them in the moment. and we're outside of their jurisdiction. But would it be all right? It might be helpful to have someone talking to them in the moment or calling them in the moment. Someone that sees a big building blow up, a healthy distance away. Yeah. I also don't want to take you out of the fight

Starting point is 02:41:40 if you want to be a part of this. I just don't want you to- I want the best chance of survival for all of us. So that's what I'm saying is you're asking someone who can practically plow a bunch of people. I just want to just... I'm laying this out. It's just... That's the case. Then... It's a choice that you have to make. Then to you, not any of us. I would ask that that this is because I don't know how to prep this thing you would think I know I don't I Can show you how I became what I am so I can show you I Will that will be a very last resort I that I will make that decision if it comes to it

Starting point is 02:42:21 But that'll be a worst-case scenario The objective is to get the evidence, all that, to where we need to, and also to make sure you guys are fine, your body's and whatnot. It's just, it's tough. There's not a lot of coming back from that, Mia. Not just because of what it does to you when you pass. It changes you. I just don't want to put you in Laila through that.

Starting point is 02:42:47 Yes, but if I'm going to die or someone else is going to die, you get where I'm, this is like the final death and all that, right? No, it makes sense. Yeah, but the chances of you living are much higher if you, if you aren't here when it happens. Fine. I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm agreeing with the logic guys. I'm not liking it.

Starting point is 02:43:09 That's my ego talking and that's just sorry. But I understand what... About the whole decision. No. Once this all kicks off, do you want to be in the building with us or where the bodies are? I want the best way to take Crossout. I want the best chance for us. Then that is objectively being with us. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:43:37 I just... Even at the expense of Evan, I just want to know that because that, if anything, that's going to be the key for us too. The thing is that Collette or I can get out of here faster than anyone else can. Yeah, that's true. And if it comes to it, we can do that. Well, let's set, well, we have to go set up, right? So let's just, let's go just, yeah.

Starting point is 02:44:01 Just in case, maybe leave an anonymous tip of where you are with someone else, like the director guy, someone that in case, you know, the bodies are cold. And Mia, if you're gonna do this, if this is something you're truly considering, if it's something that you think that needs to be done, you need to call Layla before you do it. Okay.

Starting point is 02:44:34 You can't do that to her, because I've watched it happen, and it... Okay, okay. I don't. We got to go to the location anyway and set up so. It's just something. Can you, can you, can, are you guys okay if I just, just give me some time to. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we got time. I got to make the call. So, set up, we need to set up before you make the call though, Viv. Yeah, yeah, we got to go get the gas like going. Is there anything else we can do, we need to set up before you make the call though, Viv. Yeah, no, no.

Starting point is 02:45:05 Yeah, we gotta go get the gas like going. Is there anything else we can do with this building to prep it? We gotta cut the elevator. What else can we do to stop them? Hmm. Yeah. We have to consider that they're also dead. They may just float up. So the living will have to take the stairs for sure.

Starting point is 02:45:36 We don't know how many living there will be. Yeah. So we'll have to have some sort of preparation for the dead as well if they float up through I'll say this in the stairway that is a much easier way to take out any Sins on that. Yeah, we can just rain now But we have to hope they're taking the stairs Is there anything we? Yeah, yeah Yeah, there's anything up we're not thinking of right now that can actually harm spirits? Ghost? Yeah, I know. That's what I'm trying to think of.

Starting point is 02:46:13 They have technology that we don't have. They have stuff that we don't know about, so. If we managed, if that ground team has those weapons on them, ghost army bullets once we take out that floor They fall one of us swoops in and grabs those weapons One of the humans could have this Yeah, honestly. Yeah, if Wait a minute if you guys can get me a hold of one of their weapons, especially the ghost guns Then all son we can That's different to You can be alive.

Starting point is 02:46:46 Yeah. That's much different. Question. If my body knows instinctually how bullets are constructed, can they not eventually learn how ghost bullets are constructed? Like, if I get my hands on a real ghost gun, could I not? Yeah, that's not going to be a quick process. Okay. It's a okay fair fair fair gotta eat it and learn. Yeah, I Did like this idea of swinging by the Hells Angels No, we have a brick of pigment

Starting point is 02:47:21 brick of pigment. Let's go. It's just salad or something. Let's go in a green box, green box near me. Green box. I only think of like, could they honestly? Jett, could we know? I know this means splitting up a little, but I wonder if if there's a seller level to this building, could we have some of us down there? And then once their teams start to go up towards us at the top level, the rest of us come from behind. See if we can ambush them.

Starting point is 02:47:51 That would be a good way for me to ignite the gas. So we could have a top team and a bottom team and we meet in the middle. Take as many of them as we can. Yes. Sorry. Yes to the plan. No to Logan's face. Oh, we're talking about top and bottom team. Been on top, Logan on bottom. I'm on top. No, you know, they're right. It is, of course, on team top. You got a lot of team top. Me is. Have you seen Layla? Mia's a bottom for sure. Oh.

Starting point is 02:48:26 It's called Switch. I don't know, I think it's a power struggle. You know what, we're not getting into this. We're not getting into this right now. We have more important things to do. I think they throw each other around. I think they get suplexed those two. All right, well, we've slowly but surely come to a plan.

Starting point is 02:48:46 Yeah. Okay. Let's get me a ghost gun. Let's get you a ghost gun, yeah. Because I could at least definitely start picking off. I could also just ask Cross for a ghost gun. But oh shit, I don't think they know that we know that. Never mind.

Starting point is 02:49:02 Exactly. Yeah, that'd be nice. With Hell's Angels still, like we could still get, do we want, we could still. I remember I had a piece. No, but there's humans still, so we do need to, like, put some. Hello, fellow gang members. Yeah, right. I remember we had the axe.

Starting point is 02:49:17 You like we won that time. We were the most cop. Okay. That's why I was checking. I was giving my axe. We will give you half this brick of toast, girl. I will take the axe. Yeah, I'll give you my axe. We will give you half this. I will take the. Yeah, I'll give you my axe.

Starting point is 02:49:27 I'll take an axe. I'll make that work. We have a service pistol, right? Yeah, and we have. Don't we have rifles from the next world fight or we got rid of those? No, those got taken away. I thought both or.

Starting point is 02:49:39 Yeah, and Baltimore. Me, I was going to take one. OK, no, I just got my pistol and now an axe. So. Be careful. I had my blood on it at one point. Viv, are you going to the pay phone? Are we ready? If we're ready, then yeah. Wait, we gotta get that. We gotta get the hotel room first. Yeah. Do all those things happen, Vince? Say what now? Do all those things happen?

Starting point is 02:50:03 We sort of hotel room. Yes, we want we hotel room montage where y'all get set up. Is there a cellar to the high rice? There is man, there's a basement level. There's a sub basement level. Beautiful. Okay, then yeah, I go make the call. Okay. Well, so you wait, because you weren't given a number. Just saying that you would call you from the payphone. He would call you at the payphone. Yeah, then I go away by the payphone.

Starting point is 02:50:27 Yeah, it's about 10 or 15 minutes. Eventually there is a, the payphone begins to ring. All right, this is Trader's RS. Mosaic, I trust you have news for me. Yep, found it. He's here They're not gonna move he's paranoid his shit Well, that's trouble Surprising man off the grid is scared

Starting point is 02:51:06 Oh, that's a cat. I'm sorry. There's cats everywhere. I'm outside. Yeah, I don't know what to tell you. Um, well, I'm sorry to hear that, Miss Aker. Um, you need to get him and bring him to a farmhouse outside the city. A barn. A barn.

Starting point is 02:51:25 A barn? You want me to go to a barn? I just said he's so scared. It's a safe space. Don't, don't use my words. Don't use my words. Okay. Manuka, Illinois, not far outside of Chicago. Miss Dyer's niece will be there.

Starting point is 02:51:48 Then we can do the swap. All that planning. Fuck. There's no way you can come here. Now why in the fuck would I do that? Because if I start acting weird, all of it's going to fall apart. That sounds like a you problem, Miss Acre. Whatever made you think I would relinquish any sort of control I have over this situation and go into a place I neither know nor have been to

Starting point is 02:52:27 nor have the advantage. Do you think so little of me, Miss Ager? I don't think that'd be beneficial to our relationship if I answer that question. I might just have to put a bullet in Miss Dio's knees to show you how serious I'm taking this situation and to impress upon you the situation in which you now find yourself. That won't be necessary. Are you sure? Yep.

Starting point is 02:52:53 Yep. We'll get you your package. You will. Mm-hmm. Your lives, un-lives, and those of your loved ones truly, truly do depend on it, Miss Aker. And I'm ready to start making examples. Ask Lavinia what happened the last time I had to make an example.

Starting point is 02:53:18 Understood. See you soon. I hang up. And I think it's a great place to end today's session. I hate it here. I hate it here. What if we were playing the best of the best out right now? No!

Starting point is 02:53:39 That's going to be the next episode, by the way. We planned so much fucking shit just now. It was such a good idea. I was so proud of it. Good plan. What's the tower in Nagasaki? We were going to Nagasaki. Nagasaki told me about it.

Starting point is 02:53:55 Not a tome plaza. Not Nagasaki. Not Nagasaki. Well, you've got, thankfully, Koa has some inside baseball knowledge potentially. If you think about what it is. What is it? I'm going to examine that vision like point by point.

Starting point is 02:54:13 What do you see? I would strongly go back and listen to that. Yeah. Yeah. Would be my advice. Maybe we will. Maybe. We're going to take that advice and follow through with it.

Starting point is 02:54:25 Maybe we will, maybe we won't. We're gonna plan in between these sessions. You should. I strongly encourage you to do so. We need to put our two brain cells together. I love you all so much. Does barn have a gas line and a basement? You know, we'll find out.

Starting point is 02:54:41 And an elevator. And an elevator. We'll scout it over. You'll absolutely find out. Does it have a bunch of fertilizer? Because that can be flammable. That's true. Hey, listen, now we're thinking. Now we're thinking.

Starting point is 02:54:52 No, I'm from Pennsylvania. I've been in a barn. So that's why I'm like, hold on. I know what we can do to blow this thing up. Listen, I love you all. This has been fun. Viewers, I love you all. Thank you so much

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