Mike Birbiglia's Working It Out - 133. Rachel Feinstein Returns: She’s On Fire

Episode Date: June 3, 2024

Working It Out hall-of-famer Rachel Feinstein returns to the podcast on the heels of her hit Netflix special Big Guy. Rachel explains why her firefighter husband loves being roasted in her special and why he pronounces the word “cash” like “quiche.” Rachel shares an absurd road story featuring Kevin Hart and Keith Robinson and discusses why you should never ask a comic how *they* felt about their show. Plus, new material about God getting sober, normalizing spa days, and Rachel attempting to cuddle with a boyfriend at the scariest hotel she’s ever stayed at.Please consider donating to Friends of Firefighters and The Billy Moon Foundation

For a gift for your wedding, your husband got you like a Costco pajamas or something? Yeah, a Costco pajamas. What did he get you for Mother's Day? A $50 Amazon gift card. I mean, this is just outrageous. I mean, it's outrageous. Nothing says you're a blank slate in my mind like an Amazon gift card. Like, that's what you give a super.

You're a blank slate. There was definitely a moment where he was like 75, and then he was like, nah, not for her. Not for her. 50 feels right. That is the voice of the great Rachel Feinstein. This is an all-new episode with Rachel. We had her on a year ago. It is one of my favorite episodes we've ever done.

She's a riot. She's one of the funniest people I've ever met. I've known her for 20 years. She came back on to talk about her new special, which is called Big Guy. It's on Netflix. Thanks to everyone who came out to my shows in St. Pete and Miami Beach.

This week, I'm at Westport, Connecticut, at the Country Playhouse, which is gorgeous. And then I go to Atlanta, Charlotte, Richmond, D.C., Niagara Falls, Sag Harbor, New York, Red Bank, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Oakland, Philadelphia, Minneapolis, Madison, Milwaukee, Champaign, Illinois, Indianapolis, Ann Arbor. This is so many cities. How am I going to do all of this? Detroit, Dayton, Ohio, Pittsburgh, Louisville, Nashville, Knoxville, Asheville, where my friend Ed lives from my improv group in college, and Charleston, South Carolina, one of the coolest towns in America.

Check out birdbigs.com for all of this. Join the mailing list to be the first to know about when we are adding shows and new cities to the tour, which we will be adding. Stay tuned. This is a great episode with Rachel. Rachel was on the podcast a year ago. This special made me laugh as hard as any comedy special has in a long time.

I mean, extraordinarily funny. It is so fun because we end up talking about bits that we worked out a year ago and now they're in the special and I think one of the funniest natural storytellers I know. Enjoy my conversation

with the great Rachel Feinstein. I'm reluctant to say how much I laughed at this special because then people hear the other episodes of the show and be like, well, he didn't say he laughed that hard at the other special, so maybe that's a tell. But I feel like I'm able to say this because I've seen you perform at the Comedy Cellar so many times, like we've been back to back. Yeah, you've been a great friend to me through the years. Oh, no, I don't even, I don't mean it to put it on myself. No, no, that's not what you're saying.

No, I'm saying that. You're always like, I feel like I'm always like seeing you and like venting about some weird neuroses and you're very calming and you're always like, it's okay, nobody's thinking about that. Like, you're right. You've always just been a voice of reason. I think maybe it's possible that that's your trauma

is just helping me be like, oh, I'm okay, I guess. I really need that energy all the time. I'm like, I need your voice in my head. Totally. Yeah. I mean, I talk about it special. My husband's the opposite. He'll be like, solid.

Or like, you know, he's always like- Solid? He in special. My husband's the opposite. He'll be like, solid. Or like, you know. He's always like. Solid. He said solid. That's what he said. At my Netflix special. He's like, solid. How do you feel? Oh, my God.

Solid. How do you feel? How do you feel, by the way? It's what comedians hate. Do never ask us how we felt. Don't ask us how we felt. Don't do it. Don't do it.

What that means to us. This is a public service announcement. Do any. If you were a friend or to any performer, do not ask the performer how they felt about it afterwards. Yes. It makes us feel like we, that it was up in the air. We don't know if we did a good job or not. And how do we feel about what happened? Like it was a weird incident that we're still digesting. Like it was a weird incident. Yeah. How do you feel? Like, yeah, that's what people say after, like, I don't know, like you have an operation or something.

It's not good. So how does your husband pronounce the word C-A-S-H? Kish. Kish. Kish. You say this in a special. I'm like, the way you were saying it, I thought it was like a spinach quiche. Somebody told me you have to say it twice because people don't know what you mean.

So I've started to say it twice now because people are like, what the hell is that? Kish. They say kish. And here's the weird thing. His brother has no accent whatsoever. So I'm like, why do you talk like this? And they pronounce it like foya foyda, F-I-Y-A-F-I-D-A. For F-I-R-E.

For firefighter. F-I-G-H-T-E-R, firefighter. Firefighter. Yes. New York fireman. Foya foyda. F-I-G-H-T-E-R. Firefighter. Firefighter. Yes. New York fireman. Foyer. Foyer. Foyer.

Foyer. Foyer. It sounds like a little kid trying to say what his daddy does. Like, my daddy's a foyer. Foyer. Oh, my God. And I asked his brother, I'm like, why does he speak like this? It's like a cartoon of a New York accent.

And his brother's like, the firehouse. Like, that's, that's, this is explains everything question you have about your husband. Like, that's, this explains everything question you have about your husband. Any female that's listening to this, imagine if your fucking husband went and lived in a house with 12 guy friends for half your marriage. And he doesn't, he keeps going back there. It's the fire fraternity. Yeah. It's not good.

And he's like 40-something years old. He's not like a young man in a fraternity. They don't like come up with better ideas together. I talk about this in the special, but it's true. It's like, they don't, they're not like cooking up better. No. And then they, they go there and probably, they probably vent about their why. God knows what they say. And a lot of times, a lot of times I didn't realize this, but like I do jokes on stage or tell stories on stage and here's what's happened. So now, since I've started talking about being married to a firefighter, half of my crowd is firefighter families or first responder families. And they come up to me, fire spouses, wives, whatever. And they're like, oh, you know why he does that? That's the firehouse. So they've explained a lot of things to me that I go, oh,

I didn't know that was the firehouse. So they're like, oh yeah, no, like that's worse. You know, like I'm like, he won't sit still. They all have second jobs. My friend's like, yeah, they all do because they're traumatized and they don't want to go home. They don't want to go home to you. Yeah, that was an interesting thing you say in the special is they don't want to go. They have second jobs not because they need the job financially, but they don't want to go

home to their wives. And you say this, you say this like, it's not even really a joke. It's just a true thing. Because I laugh so much because I kind of relate. Because it's like comedians. Like we get to go and we joke around with each other.

Like I do also get it because we sit at a table at the cellar and we just like talk immense amounts of shit. And we're just general morons with each other. And it's so fun. And then we have to go home at a certain point. Yeah. So it's like, I get why you just want to go home because that's always been me.

Like at a certain point in the cellar, I'm like, I gotta go back home and be normal. Yeah. The cellar is a certain type of firehouse.

Yeah. Because you do have to work. You do have to get on stage. But then for the most part, you're waiting around for the next time you get on stage. And we're the real heroes. part, you're waiting around for the next time you get on stage.

And we're the real heroes. Obviously, we're the real heroes. My favorite, the Comedy Cellar is my, other than home, is my favorite place to be. I just love being there. I just love being there, too. Like last night, it's like whatever cocktail of weird, unhealthy, dark feelings are brewing in my head during the day, I just like go there. I sit down, talk some shit, and I feel better.

I do. I feel better. And I think like there's always – people will – comedians are always willing to trash anything. So if you walk in and you trash show business, if you trash your parents, if you trash your best friend, someone will yes and what you're saying. And it's so fun because it's the only place we're allowed to be this level of heightened asshole. Yes. Like, I walked into the cellar last night and Keith Robinson was like, he's like, I'm not going to watch Rachel's special.

I'll turn it off my electricity so I don't have to watch it. And I was like crying laughing. You don't have electricity so I don't have to watch it. And I was like crying laughing. You don't have electricity so I don't have to watch it? We're all trashing each other. I'm like, Keith, you're the only person I know that got fat for their special. Who puts on weight for their special? You know, and he was like, yeah, Rachel's outfit stinks. And he was just trashing me the whole night, making fun of my horrible outfits and how I can't dress.

And they were all doing different impressions of my outfits. And it was making me laugh so hard. Like they said, I dress like I shop at like Suburban Outfitters. And I was like, this is so funny. Suburban Outfitters is so good. It's so good. And it makes me laugh so much. Like, and so it's like the only place where we could do this and we're not going to, I mean, everywhere else I go, I have to remember, you know, how I have to like talk and act, but it makes how I have to, like, talk and act. But it makes me laugh a lot, especially when they trash me. It's really funny. Keys was like, the thing about Rachel is that people don't understand is that she's dumb.

She's very dumb. At a core level, she's not a smart person. And I was laughing so hard I was crying because he is kind of right. Like, I get credit for being intelligent, I think, because I'm, like, sarcastic and Jewish. But I have, like, no information. And so it was making me cry, but it's like the only place we can, you know, do that with each other and it's okay. And it also makes you not believe your own nonsense. Oh, completely. No, no. It's constant poking of holes in your entire identity, which is somehow healthy.

Somehow I love it. Yeah. It's nothing like the rest of life. Everything in life is so polite. And then when, yeah, somehow, whether it's the firehouse or the comedy cellar or whatever that firehouse is to you, because I don't know if everybody has that.

I mean, maybe some people have that with like Yeah, people have that little circle where they feel their most themselves. Yeah. Tell us in the comments. What's your firehouse? Tell us in the comments. What's your firehouse?

Yeah, yeah. Even the fact that I'm talking about firefighters, they trash me for it. And like Keith brought me on stage saying, this next comedian works for the fire department. Wait, I don't even know if you're allowed to tell this story because I think it's on Keith's forthcoming special. Right.

The Kevin Hart story. Does he tell it? Oh, yeah, we could talk about it. Does he tell it? Yeah, story because I think it's on Keith's forthcoming special. Right. The Kevin Hart story. Does he tell it? Oh, yeah, we could talk about it. Does he tell it? Yeah, we could talk about it a little bit. It's fine. Okay, here's how I remember it. Keith telling it.

You, Kevin Hart, and Keith were driving home from a gig like years ago. And you got pulled over by the cops? Yes. We were like driving down this dark country road. And Keith was teasing me about how my dad's a civil rights lawyer. He's like, we don't need his help. Tell him we don't need him. And he goes, we don't need him.

Lean on me. He kept calling him. Which is the oldest movie reference, like a 50-year-old movie. And he's like, tell him we're good without him. And then he goes, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to attack Rachel and let her dad defend me. He goes, I'm going to call him up and I'm going to say, Mr. Fats, this is the case that's going to make you a star. He said he was going to throw me out of the car and then have his dad and my dad defend me.

Oh, my God. But anyway, so Keith was making me cry laughing. Then on the way home, he was doing this thing where he was screaming out the window. He was like, quiet, quiet. Like this thing where he was screaming out the window. He was like, shh, quiet, quiet. Like he'll just tell people to shush. It'll be in the middle of like McDougal and Bleeker, like a busy corner of the street. And Keith will be like, if you don't mind, just keep it down a little, just lower the volume.

And he gets screamed at. Like this lady was like, why would you tell me to be quiet? I'm outside. There's a tree near me. And he's like, I just need you to just lower it just a little, if you don't mind. Yeah. So he was basically, I think he was screaming out the window, something to the extent of like, keep it down for just people that were passing him on the street. Just like, keep it down. Just on some people passing on the sidewalk. So the cops follow us, right? They let me out in my house. And then apparently,

whatever happened afterwards, they got arrested. This is years ago. Many, many, many years ago. I mean, Kevin Hart was opening for Keith Robinson. So this was 19- 100 years ago. Yes. So I'm 70. So just put that into perspective. So I'm 72 today. But no, so this was many, many years ago. So they dropped me off and I went inside. This is after a gig, I think. After a gig, yes. And where I bombed violently.

And Keith had the time of his life watching me bomb. He was in the back like, that's right. That's how you bomb. Oh my God. I mean, just, they hated me. And Keith thought it was so funny how horrifically I bombed. It was the kind of bomb where you're a little shook up afterwards. Like I needed some help kind of processing it. Yeah. And we were driving back and I remember I was reading Catcher in the Rye in the car. And I was young enough to be reading

that book. And he looks back and he goes, eh, you know what? You bug me the way you're reading that dumb book and enjoying it. It just irritates me. I'm like, what's wrong with this man? I was like Sandy from Grease. I didn't know how ruthless comedians were. I'm like, why would he say that? But I'm enjoying a piece of literature. And then he takes it out of my hand and hurls the book out the window.

Then Kevin says, I really want a sandwich. He's like, I'm hungry. And Keith's like, yeah, what kind of sandwich do you want? So Kevin starts discussing what he wants to eat. He's like, I'm hungry. And Keith's like, yeah, what kind of sandwich do you want? So Kevin starts discussing what he wants to eat. He's like, you know, it would be nice. And they're thinking it together. He goes, you know what? I'm going to get that for you right now, Kevin.

I knew something evil was coming at this point because I'd begun to understand his character. So we stop and Kevin gets a big sub. He's dressing it. He's putting all his things on it. He's making it just right. Keith's driving. He's like, you want to eat that, don't you? You're really just excited.

You know that feeling when you're about to eat something you really want to eat, and Kevin's just like, yeah. And then Keith takes it out of his hand and hurls the whole dumb thing out the window. Oh, my God. And they were both laughing so hard, and I was like, what the fuck? But, you know, now I'm like them. I've become as rotten inside. But yeah, he just took it out. He took that sandwich right. The birds had a nice

fat sub that day. Wait, so then did you get pulled over from that? No. Oh, sorry. I was just jumping around. No, we got pulled over from that. Sorry. That was earlier in the day. Okay. I need to speak in order. I don't know exactly what happened, but they got pulled over from that. Sorry. That was earlier in the day. Okay. I need to speak in order. I don't know exactly what happened, but they got pulled over after I left. Okay. And they got arrested. And Keith said he was, you know, he had some words with the officer. So they get arrested. So I developed a plan to rescue them from the...

To rescue them from jail. He was like, we don't need you, you white bitch. I was like... Oh, and so. To rescue them from jail. Keith was like, we don't need you, you white bitch. I was like. Oh my God. So I was like pulling my resources. I was like, free Keith, you know what I mean? And then, so I think I like tried to save some money up to bail him out.

I was still a nanny full time. Oh wow. I didn't have money. You know, I was like roommates with Sherrod. We lived in like a, you know, an old law tenement. You know, I lived, I was like on the top bunk. You had to walk through my room

to get to the bathroom. The bathroom had no door. Like we had no money. So I was like scraping together like a funds to, you know, get him, get him free.

And then I was like, I got a sandwich and Buddy Bolton, who was my, our next door neighbor, if you remember Buddy. Of course. He decided that it would be,

we should put a note in the sandwich. Wait, you should bring a sandwich to the jail and put a note in? And what does the note say? We're going to get you out of here. It's like an episode of Three's Company. This is outrageous. So I was so proud of it. Me and Buddy were like so excited.

And then Keith to this day makes so much fun of me putting a note in a sandwich. You actually did it. We did it. We put the note in a sandwich and said, we're going to get you out of here. Like stay strong or something. Oh my God.

Your special is blown up. It's number five on Netflix. Of all television. Crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. all television. Crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. You must feel great. I'm excited.

This morning, at this very moment, I'm able to be happy about it. You make fun of Italian stereotypes by using the names Gina and Vince, my dad and my sister. My dad is Vince. My sister is Gina. You're like, Vince, get over here. Gina wants to talk to you. It's like, oh, literally my family members. I apologize, Michael. Yeah. A lot of the firefighters in the area I live in, in Queens, it's like all cops and firefighter families, you know? So like they're, you know, they're all like the kind of guys that are like, you know, my daughters, they're the loves of my life, Isabella, Gianna, and Isabella.

I call them the three loves of my life. So they all kind of like talk like that. It's a whole nother world from what I'm used to, you know, like there is like not a Jew for miles. Yeah. It's just a weird, like I'm inside of this whole world now because now he's a battalion chief. So it's like, you know, we have to go when he gets promoted, we get a cake, we bring to the boss's office. We sit in his office.

Oh, my God. You know, and we tell him thank you. And you're part of this. I'm part of this because I am now the chief's wife. So there's a whole, there's a lot involved with that. It's not, it doesn't, it's not supposed to be saying twat on television, but it does. What's funny, you talk about how your daughter is like, my dad's a hero and my mom is sarcastic. It's such a great line.

I still think Pete told her to say that. I'm like, how did she come up with sarcastic? He would admit it. Because I was like, you know, you're telling it like it's true. And I'm like, is that true? Like, how is it possible? It's true. But I believe he fed it to her, but he's not admitting it. Yeah. They asked my daughter at her school what

her mommy daddy did. And she said, my daddy's a hero and my mommy's sarcastic. And Pete's like, yeah, I wonder where she got that. I'm like, I wonder where she got that. Yeah, but I mean, she definitely like takes his job seriously and looks at me like, but what do you really do? For a gift for your wedding, your husband got you like a Costco pajamas or something? Yeah, a Costco pajamas.

What did he get? What did he get you for Mother's Day? A $50 Amazon gift card. I mean, this is just outrageous. I mean, it's outrageous. Nothing says you're a blank slate in my mind like an Amazon gift card. Like that's what you give a super. You're a blank slate. You know, there an Amazon gift card. That's what you give a super. You're a blank slate.

You know, there's a moment, I talk about this, I haven't talked about it on stage yet, but I'm going to, but there was definitely a moment where he was like 75 and then he was like, nah, not for her. Not for her. 50 feels right. Is he doing the bit at this point? $50 gift card from Amazon feels like almost a bit. It's horrific. No. He is just like. Has he ever surprised you with something that's like special?

When Pete gets me a nice gift, I know that there was a team of people that had to work on it with him and like re-steer him in the right direction. His gifts are disastrous. Like they're brutal. They're hurtful. This thing made me laugh so hard. Do you remember Taryn Piedemaya?

You're doing an impression of your mom. Yes, my mom. It's exactly my mom. Really? Yeah, I mean, I guess that's the, that's the sleight of hand of stand-up comedy is, like, you watch someone talk about their, yeah, do their mom.

And you're like, oh, that's my mom. You do this thing of your mom basically saying, you remember this person? And you kind of don't remember the person. And she says a crazy thing about the person. Yeah, she loves to tell me dark health updates of people I don't remember. Just like really weird, upsetting news. Yeah. Any recently?

She told me – this is one she just repeats a lot, that of somebody she once knew who went up in a hot air balloon. They knew someone that went in a hot air balloon and then it just crashed and they died. And I'm like, mom, that's not a fun loving tale. Why do you keep repeating the hot air balloon story? Yeah. And she gets really into it. And did I, do you remember? And she always says it like she doesn't want to say it. I'm like, yeah, I remember. Cause you told me that when I was like she doesn't want to say it. I'm like, yeah, I remember. Because you told me that when I was like eight. And you told me it many times.

And it's not a fun tale, mom. But she loves to tell me just like very dark stuff or just updates. But then she always puts a spin on it at the end. Well, I just thought you might want to know and would be concerned. But I guess I'm the bad guy. So there's always like a last minute turn where she's somehow the victim of her own weird morose updates she gives me. My mom has it where she'll say something that is so extreme from her life that like, I'm just like, how did I not hear this sooner? Like, she'll be like, I used to work at a children's hospital, you know, when I was in my twenties and I became best

friends with this girl who was 11 and then she was diagnosed with blank. And then I invited her to my wedding. And then, but then she died. And then I'm like, oh, okay, all right. Well, that's like a huge thing to happen. Because I think they don't deal with anything because they're of that generation. Oh, is that what it is?

I think, and then it just comes out in these weird. And I think, I have no real hard information, but Jessica Kirsten told me it's like trauma bonding. Like they bond with you through telling you about another trauma. But I've noticed that my mom doesn't really connect so much to the trauma if it's happening to anybody who's super close to her.

Okay. But she likes to, and even if you tell her about something that's happening to you, she needs to relate it to like a neighbor's colon cancer or something. Like somebody that this person doesn't even know. Maybe the trauma bonding thing

is part of what we're talking about firefighters do with each other. And maybe it's part of what we do at the Comedy Cellar. Yes, yeah. I think you're right. And also thinking about it, I guess like when I love when people trash, comedians trash me or say mock my outfits

or whatever makes me laugh, I probably also getting ahead of what I'm going to hear somewhere else. So people yell things at me on stage. I read YouTube comments and don't take them in a fun, loving way. No, I get like hurt, like haunted by them. Yeah, don't do that. So yeah, I have to not do that anymore. I really can't do it.

You gotta stop. Yeah, I have to stop. No, I've read stuff this week that it's just given me brand new insecurities. Oh God. So you can't, you can't read No, I've read stuff this week that it's just given me brand new insecurities. Oh, God. So you can't. You can't read it. I've read so many terrible things recently. And yeah, brand new things.

What's the thing that gets to you? What's the thing that people say that actually crosses the line? I don't know. I mean, there's a lot about, you know, how I look. And somebody said your arms are fatter than last week. That means someone's tracking my arm fat. It's so horrible. Fatter than last week.

That means they're checking in with each other. I also feel like friendships are made. Like people bond over hating me because I've seen some people, like somebody write one comment, they'd be like, oh, you're telling me, this poor guy, you know? Oh God. Or I think it definitely, what probably actually really hurts me the most is when people

misunderstand my material or just feel like I'm just throwing Pete under the bus and that Pete's not in on the joke and he doesn't get a kick out of it too. Or that I'm like, look, I'm laughing at the whole lifestyle and what I experience. And there's a cocktail of things you experience when you're married to a firefighter. And a lot of it's hard and I mock it. I mock all the nonsense around it. So people think that I'm somehow disrespecting him or his job. It's like, that's painful because I feel like, look, firefighters are coming out because they need it. They like it that I talk about them. Some of them don't, I'm sure. It's not like, you know, I'm sure there's plenty of people that like or don't like my material. But what I found across the board is that they can take a joke like a joke. And that's one thing I'm really grateful for

and probably need that more than anybody. So I'm grateful for that. I think anybody who works in any life-threatening job has to develop some kind of gallows humor. Yeah. Right? Like, it's a coping mechanism. I would think so.

Like, I have a really dark joke on stage I'm touring with right now, and I literally say to the audience, like, most of the jokes are for you, but that one's for me. And the audience kind of gets it. You know what I mean? That's what I find. Like, I used to rush a lot. I still do.

But I feel like sometimes if I'm a little slower and just say that one weird vulnerable thing that doesn't necessarily have a huge laugh with it, that sometimes those are the jokes and the moments people remember more than anything else. I think so. Yeah. So like there's like a bit I have. It's like not even a bit. I just talk about how when I go home to visit my family, I'm okay for like six minutes and then I feel like weirdly furious afterwards. It's not a bit yet.

It's just kind of a feeling. That's great. But people like mention that more because they're like, oh, I feel like that when I go home too. Maybe it makes them feel less bad about going home. I don't know. Or feeling that way when they go home. That makes perfect sense. Yeah. I, yeah, I know exactly what you mean. And then I say after that, how I feel a terrible guilt about feeling this throbbing hostility, but it may be that makes people feel like, oh, okay, that's, that's all normal or something. So I think it's good to be vulnerable in those ways. Is there anything from this special that you feel like rubbed some people the wrong way?

There's a joke I say about people, we could be in the middle of an argument and people will stop and be like, you know, thank you for your service or whatever. And I'll be like, he's being kind of a dick right now. And I feel like firefighters laugh like crazy at that because everybody knows that's what they have to stop and listen to. You know what I'm saying? So, like, I feel like I get – I feel like most firefighters laugh at that because they know they hear that every day. And, you know, their wives or husbands do too. But what I'm trying to say is that it's just a moment in time

and you don't know what's happening in that time. I'm not saying they shouldn't be thanked for their service or that it's not remarkable, but yeah, there's gonna be somebody that would say that that's wrong, but it's a moment in our day where that might happen. And there is a certain isolation and emotional isolation to be with somebody

that goes into very traumatic situations a lot. There is a certain loneliness to being married to somebody that somebody that goes into very traumatic situations a lot. There is a certain loneliness being married to somebody that does that. So there's a different quality there, you know, so to you, whatever you need from them that you might not get or whatever it is. I'm not saying everybody experiences that, but for myself, I found that, yeah, there's, they, they have to check out in a certain way that's very necessary for their job at moments. And it doesn't always transition back to the home easily. So I feel like, I don't know, maybe somebody will see that that's where I'm coming from a little bit. Or maybe they won't.

I don't know. If you married an accountant who drove a Toyota Camry, would you still have a new one-hour special? No. No way. It absolutely is because I married a new one-hour special? No. No way. It absolutely is because I married a firefighter. I owe them everything. Yes. Why do they got yes?

Yes. Not at all. No, he gave me a good, solid hour. The thing that I screamed laughing, I think, at the most, and I laughed throughout the entirety of your special, is what your mother-in-law says to you. Did she, can you say what she said?

Yes, that's the thing I'm terrified about because I haven't talked to her today and she doesn't know about that special and I'm so scared. Oh, okay. That makes sense. Because it's so, I mean, she's not going to listen to this podcast,

so I think you're okay. But can you say what she said? Don't clip it. Yeah, but you say what she said? Don't clip it. Yeah, but you get it. Okay, we won't clip it. Okay. She tells me these things. It's like these compliments that slowly turn into insults, so it always starts out good with her.

So she'd be like, my son is happy with you. He's a happy man. You know why? Because he needs to laugh. With his job, laughter is important. He always had the most gorgeous girlfriends, but he was bored by them. Beautiful, though. Just smug.

But with you, he has a chuckle. He needs that. With you, he has a chuckle. He needs to laugh. With you, he has a chuckle. I mean, this is, you cannot write comedy better than that. With you, he has a chuckle. He needs to laugh, sweetheart.

It's important. He's happy. He doesn't need a smoking hot, just gorgeous. I mean, really just like an ass that's just neighborhood approved. He needs to laugh. That's what he needs. He needs a gangrenous clown to set him straight. And so she's never seen that joke?

No. And she is going to see it. And I'm really nervous. And I haven't heard from her since the special. She said she was going to watch it. And I tried to tell her on Monday because it was my daughter's birthday and we had them all over. And I just tried to find the right moment to tell her that I'd do one joke about her. And I didn't.

I just bailed. I'm so glad you did that joke. Thank you. It's so funny. I just bailed. I'm so glad you did that joke. Thank you. It's so funny. I was just dying. My mother-in-law just like, she's just obsessed with my husband. And I had the opposite.

My mother, I was the third favorite. I asked my mom and she said it. I was like, you know, you love Justin the most and then Aaron and then me. And she was like, ah. Like she couldn't lie. She like fucked her neck up trying. She's like, fucked her neck up trying. She's like, rah! Rah!

This is a slow round. What are people's favorite and least favorite thing about you? In general? Yeah. I get in trouble a lot because I'm a mess. I'm like a liability. Well, you're a half hour late for this conversation. Yes, I was.

But that's not a big deal. But I'm just giving context to the listeners. No, but it really was bad. That was like later than I've ever wanted to be. I'm usually more in time for comedy, but this morning was especially rough. And it's not okay. I'm sorry. But I'm a mess and I fuck things up and I drop things and I lose things and I lose other people's things.

Oh, interesting. Yeah. What's the worst thing you've ever lost? Oh, my God. Laptops, passports, whole bags I've left at the airport. Oh, wow. A Rolex. A Rolex. A Rolex.

My God. That's got to be like a $5,000 or $10,000 item, right? Yeah. A Rolex? And I lost it. Yeah. It's not good. Someone gave you a Rolex watch and you lost it? In a move, yeah.

Oof. It was not good. No, I lose things and I'm like a wild mess and I try really hard. And I'm trying. Have you talked about this on stage? I haven't talked about it in a little bit because my husband is the opposite. Like if you look at his nightstand, it's like a military fucking ship is run. And what he wants in life is for my shit not to fuck up his shit.

And that is what he wants. Like so he comes home, he's like, what's this over here? Why is this like this? You know, like. Yeah. So he comes home. He's like, what's this over here? Why is this like this?

And that was one of the things one of the other fire wives, badge bangers, told me. She was like, hey, the reason he does that, the morning drill. She's like, my husband does the same thing. It's because they do morning drills at the firehouse. So I guess Pete goes around and he's like, what's this over here? Why is this over here? It looks like you brought it over there. What were you going to do? I always have to tell him why I was going to do something, what I was thinking.

I'm like, I'm not thinking. That's the thing. That's the problem. My hands are taking trips throughout the day. I don't know where they went, you know? I was just telling you this before we started. What's the worst accommodations you've ever been given on a gig? Oh, my God.

I mean, I've stated some, I mean, like holes in the sheets, like $37 hotels. Oh, $37 hotels. When I was featuring, I would just get whatever I could afford with my nanny money. You know, like I've seen just actively dangerous, like just. I've had some actively dangerous ones. I showed up in Indianapolis once. I was forced to stay for whatever reason. I lost my wallet or something.

I stayed at a dollar inn and it was at the airport. Wait, what is it called? A dollar inn? I've never even heard of it. Oh, it's called the dollar inn. And I'm not even kidding. I don't know why I haven't heard of it. It's amazing.

It was the dollar inn. And it was like one of those ones. You ever do one where you go and you're sure that they have a shotgun behind the glass? You're like, oh, okay. Well, this feels very dangerous. Yeah. A dollar in is amazing, though. How bad was it? What was it like?

I don't think I slept a lot. I think I slept probably three and a half hours. That was when you slept on top of the cover. I've done that a lot where I've slept on top of the cover. The main thing is when you're given a really bad hotel room, you take the coverlet off immediately. What's the worst hotel you've ever had to stay at? You know, I was thinking the worst hotel that I've ever stayed at when you're in a bad, when you're given a really bad hotel room, you take the, you take the coverlet off immediately. Yeah.

What's the worst hotel you've ever had to stay at? You know, I was thinking the worst hotel that I've ever stayed at was actually not with standup. It was when I had started

to date this guy that I met at a show, the only guy I've ever met at a show and dated, if you could call it that. He was a nurse. He lived with his grandmother. Where was this?

This was- In Queens? In Brooklyn. And we were gonna, I told him we could cuddle, but we couldn't have sex or? In Brooklyn. And we were gonna, I told him we could cuddle, but we couldn't have sex or something. And he was like, okay. And then he met my dumb terms.

I used to do a joke about it. This is after like a, wait, this is after like a date? Yeah, we went out like twice. And I was like, we can cuddle, but we can't have sex. Like I used to have all these like, I never had like,

I could never do like casuals. I'd be too nervous. So I would set all these weird, you know, like pre-parameters. I used to have all these... I never had... I could never do casual, so I'd be too nervous. So I would set all these weird pre-parameters. I used to do a joke about how if I was your sexual attorney, I'd recommend you don't take this deal. It's not a good deal for you. That's a great joke. Yeah, you're going to be flaccid

and kind of angry. It's not positive. That's a great joke. You've got to put that on a special. I mean, that's a riot. That's a great joke. My friends would make fun on a special. I should. I mean, that's a riot. That's a great joke. My friends would make fun of me. Like, why do you have these weird like Mormon sleepovers with all these strange rules and stuff? It was terrible.

Smart. Oh, it's smart though. I mean, the reason I did it was because I was like, oh, I don't want, I want to make sure that he like loves me before I have sex with him. But what happens is that I was exhausting these guys so much that they were like, fine, where do I sign? Like, yeah, I don't know that I ended up in the right relationships. I think a guy was just vaguely horny and he had like a semi and he was like, yes, I love you. Let's do this. I'd prefer to be inside you right now. Fine.

We're in a relationship. So I basically. Fine. I love you. fine I love you I just wore them down with my dumb fucking Mormon sleepovers

and fucking weird attorney like rules so I think I I gave this guy and most guys would sort of just try or like keep

try to renegotiate throughout the evening yeah sure and in a respectful way you know like to be like hey can we rediscuss these terms and I you know

go over certain things like no tits are complimentary Like I just let him know. And so this guy comes over and my friend, my roommate, her grandma had just passed away. And she was so annoyed that I had this guy come over and she knew about my Christian sleepovers. And she's like, why are you doing this here? Like I'm mourning my grandma. Just get out of here with this weird nurse that lives with his grandmother that you're dating. She's like, but you're, he's

too young. She just thought the whole situation was very strange. He was usually dating older. He was like six years younger than me and he lived with his grandma and she thought it was all kind of strange. And she's like, can you not have your Mormon sleepover here tonight? I just want to be thinking about my grandma and I want you to bring this guy over. Okay. So I was like, okay, we got to get a hotel to cuddle in this poor guy.

In Brooklyn. In Brooklyn. But we couldn't afford many hotels. And also not the real hotel capital of the world. Exactly. So we ended up in a prostitute hotel, which had a bulletproof glass. And like, I didn't realize, I didn't know what that was. I didn't know what a hooker hotel was. We go in and then like, we pay, we go upstairs. I think we had to pay first, like in cash. In cash, sure. We go upstairs to cuddle. The only person that's ever cuddled at this hotel. Oh my gosh. We turn on the TV, just blasting porn on every station. blasting porn on every station. I was like, oh my God. I didn't know they do this at hotels.

Every station was like, oh yeah, fuck yeah. And so I was like, fuck, great. This is like, now this guy, can you imagine like... He's cuddling to these sounds. He's probably so hard. He's cuddling to the porn sounds. Yeah, and he's just like holding.

These were the dumbest nights I've ever had in my life. Just like neither of us could sleep. I was like, what am I doing? What is this? And just like, and we just kept changing the channel. I'd just be just another woman just like, ah, yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Oh, fuck yeah. And I'm like, okay, maybe there's no non-porn channels. So we just turned it off and just laid near each other. And it was probably one of the loneliest nights of my life. I could say definitely his, I would imagine, but it was not good. And then we just left and he just dropped me off and he was just like, well, and I was like, well. That was that. Yeah. That's a tough one. Okay. What is a time you were so scared you ran away? So scared I ran away.

Like, I guess one time, oh, I remember one time on the train. Oh, I remember one time on the train. I was on the train and this guy was like kind of trying to touch me, but he was so drunk. He didn't know where he was. Like he was in that stage of drunk where he was like, eh. Like he just like thought we were probably talking, but we weren't. Like he didn't know what country he was in. Yeah, yeah.

And he just kind of leaned over and he was like, like some drug could sort of swipe at me. And so I get up to get off at that stop. And everybody was watching this. And I go to him, you need to stop it. Like you're being disgusting right now. Then I get up and I get off, but he got off first. So it looked like I was like following him and I wanted it. So it looked like there was this weird,

like naughty game we played every night where I'm like, you need to stop it. And he was like, everybody watched me like, and so it looks like I'm following this guy. Right. So then I started to be like, and he was like, he was just drunkenly swaying. So I was like, I kind of crunched the numbers on the idea that he was going to actually try to assault me. And I was like, he probably isn't because he's so drunk. You were crunching the numbers. Everything is this attorney persona. Because I was like, I'm not trying to make excuses for him.

He was obviously a worthless, worthless man. But he was like, he tried to like kind of swipe my tittage area, but he was like, didn't know where he was. So I was like, I don't think he's going to get it together to really go after me. Right, right, right. But just in case, let me ask this other guy that it got off the train too,

if he wouldn't mind walking me to my corner because some guy was just trying to, you know, he had some kind of full assault, I don't know what you call that, trying to smear me, like. Grope or, yeah. Yeah, it was like a smearing indication. A smear, a smear. I think the listeners will understand what a smear means. A like a smearing indication a smear a smear

I think the listeners will understand what a smear means a physical smear a physical smear a physical tittage smear this guy was trying to give my tittage

tittage swipe me yeah can swipe I don't know so I tell this guy yeah I think that's a technical term yeah can swipe I was like

I've been can swiped or attempted can swipe so I stop this other guy that's leaving who had like a little messenger bag and he looked pretty together and I was like, I don't think he wants anything to do with me right now. So I was like, hey, do you mind

walking me to my corner? Because I was just had an attempt at titter swiping me by this man, that drunken smear over there. And the man was a smear. The smear was a smear. Anyway, I saw the guy, the whole story. And he kind of looks at me and looks at the guy and he just like thought we were involved in something

together that he didn't want to be in the middle of. And he was like, no, thank you. You actually had a cry for help and it was rejected. Yeah. He was like, no, thank you. He was like, he saw that little thing. He thought it was like a play

we did back and forth. Oh, God. Because then he saw me follow him out, and he's like, I'm not going to get in the middle of their sex game right now. And then I just ran. I've been doing a bit lately, every now and then at the cellar, where I'm like, the governor wants to bring, you know, the subway is in rough shape, so it's like the governor wants to bring in the National Guard.

And I'm like, I don't think that's the right person, but like, we should call somebody. Like, something's going on. It's not good, I'll tell you that. Right. What's the end game here? I don't know. What's going on with the trains?

I don't know. It's not good. It's not good for transport. No. Currently. It's not good for anything. I don't want to bring my daughter on. And I love the subway.

Yeah. My grandfather worked love the subway. Yes. My grandfather worked in the subway tunnels. No, I've been taking Ubers lately. Yeah, it's wild. No, people are getting punched. I'm like, I don't want to get clocked on my way to Kelly Clarkson. Yeah, there's a punch phenomenon. Yeah, yeah.

I'm like, yeah, no thanks. I'd rather not have a right hook on the way to my fun-loving morning show right now. What nicknames have you been given in your life that were particularly bad or good? Let's see here. Pete also calls me Chief. He's always like, you're the real Chief, which is so stupid.

There's Big Guy, Chief. He called me Large Cat for a while. What does Keith call you? Keith? What does Keith call me? I can't remember what Keith calls me. Did Patrice used to make fun of you when he was alive? Yeah.

What would he say? I was fucking my way to the middle. Oh my God. Which is funny because I wasn't even dating comics. I was dating like union workers. You're fucking your way to the middle. It's too much. Patrice used to make fun of me so much he called me Mike Big Headlia

that was a big thing he called me but I have to say as mean as he was and he was truly truly mean he was funny he's brilliantly funny it's like one of those things you shrug I don't know

he would just look at me like you could just see I was a mess. Unbelievable thing. Do you remember this? When Patrice was alive, he would sit out on the sidewalk and he would basically do crowd work. On the sidewalk. On the sidewalk. And he would just talk to the people who were walking past. Which is like kind of what Keith does too, because they were like best friends. Like they probably did it together. Like Keith would be like, shh, quiet. Do you have any new bits you're working on? I was thinking about, like, this girlfriend of mine that I went to high school with posted something like,

normalize spa days. I don't like the problems that they're in. I think they're pretty normal. Yeah. You're just telling me you're rich. Those kinds of posts infuriate me. It telling me you're rich. Those kinds of posts infuriate me. It sounds like you're rich. Yeah, you're just telling us you're rich.

That's all that just happened. I'm not sure anybody was judging me for getting a blowout, bitch. Yeah. Just like normalized bodies. It's also, whenever people write that like normalize or like this, and then they tell you something, it's like, it's always, it involves some kind of directive. Like all of a sudden I feel like I have to run an errand because you said something.

It's like a command. I'm like, I don't even have a bra on. Give me a minute. Normalize spa. Now I have to do this. It's just fucking quick directive. And I have to know that you get spa days every week. You twat.

I want a spa day. I'd like to normalize them. Can you have some fucking quiche? Can you have some cash? You have some quiche? You have some quiche? That's a great bit. Have you done that yet? Thank you. You actually just helped me work it out more. Now that I've talked it out more, I thought about it more. Yeah. Yeah. Have you done it yet? No, I have not done it on stage yet. Okay. Yeah. Or also, there's another one. My daughter, pick her up from school now. And so when she

listens at school, she gets a listening sticker. And so every day when I pick her up, I'm like, oh, did you get your listening sticker? And this one day I picked her up and she goes, sadly, no. Sadly, no. So she's very condescending and she kind of braces me with the information. This is really not a bit yet, but she also, she just speaks like me. So you see all the things you say. So I always give people an out because I'm always bracing myself for rejection. So I'll be like, hey, do you want to come over or no? I always say or no. So I'll be like, oh, would you like to come hang out tonight? Have a glass of wine or no?

So now she says that to everybody. So she was, I just saw her around like her class and she was like, do you want to come to my birthday party or no? Like I'm like, oof, I'm giving, like it's like the worst way to be like, she's giving people an out.

I do this. I give everybody an out. Yeah. People that work with me are always like, don't give people an out. Just ask them, you know,

like, oh, I love that. Yeah. Don't be like, but don't worry about it. You don't have to, you know,

like, and that's how I speak. I would break that wide open because like, then you can go into an example of like, when you did that. Can you think of a time where you gave someone an out and it actually backfired?

Yesterday, like I'll be like, I text comedians to ask them to post about my special. I'm like, if you want to post about this, it's fine. But don't worry if not. I hate asking comedians. I hate myself. I'm sorry. Like it's always like 10 apologies. Right.

Just be like, do you mind posting this or whatever? But I can't do it. I can't. I always have to be like, or no, I'm the worst. It's all the worst. I'm all about outs. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know what's the best thing to teach her. Cause she's always kind of like, even at her birthday, she's like, she'll be like, mommy, do you want to come sit with me for breakfast or no? Like, or she'll be like, do you want to come over, sit at the table or no? Like, she's always just like sort of releasing people. Like they don't want to be there. Like she presumes you don't want to. And I see that I've passed this on to her so i have to fix it but it's also

funny because you just see all your own nonsense like like when my daughter tries to get in bed with me now she tries to like schmooze me she gets in bed with us every night and it's hilarious we just see her like walking down the hallway and she cries until she gets to our door because she knows we're gonna let her in the bed at this point. So she's like, and then by the time she's in the door, she's like confident. She's fucking like gunning people.

She's high-fiving. She's like a rapper walking into a party. You know, she knows she's getting in that bed. And then she'll stop and be like, oh, that's cute. And I'm like, what's cute, Frankie? It's three in the morning. My black scrunchie you think is like really impressive.

Just get in the bed. We know where you're getting. Like, so she kind of works me. She's like, where'd you get that? She says, where did you get that? About like some gross night shirt I'm wearing, you know? Like it was a store she was going to shop at later. I'm like, I get everything you own. Stop working me.

So she definitely works me now. And I want to talk about that more on stage. This is great. Like, I always thought when I had a girl, I was like, I'm going to try to infuse them with this confidence. It's like Frankie talks to me like she's worried about me. Like, she's like, can you get me a bottle, mom? Like, she's always like, not sure I can. She's like, or she'll be like, you can do it. She's like, you can get me that Barbie camper. You can get it. Like, as if I lack the confidence to purchase something for her on Amazon.

Anyway. That's great. Thank you. Both of those are great. Okay, good. I can say that. I need a whole new hour now, so thanks. We need a new hour.

And fortunately, your personality kind of is a walking hour of comedy. Everything about you is hilarious. I'm actually, similar to when I watched your special. I'm having to suspend myself from laughing too hard because it's going to override the actual jokes that you're saying. Also, I took my ADD medicine right before I came here. So I'm going to be talking kind of fast.

There you go. Maybe you could help me with this. I've been doing like a whole run about religion, and I wrote a Judaism thing this week, but I don't really know much about Judaism. So I'm just like, it's hard for me to get on board for Judaism because I don't really think the Old Testament happened. It's so long ago.

My mom tells me stories from last week, and I'm like, I'm not sure that happened. You know what I mean? happened like it's so long ago like my mom tells me stories from last week and i'm like i'm not sure that happened like when i think about growing up catholic i disregard the old testament like even as a kid i was like i was like the new testament is god's way of saying sorry about all that none of that's true it's all about actually forgiveness and all that kind of stuff it's like when god got clean he's like i don't drink anymore. I don't kill people. I was going- That's God sober. I think she used the word sober. That's hilarious. That's so funny. God got sober. He's like, I was going through some stuff. I said some things about Sodom and Gomorrah that I regret. You know what I mean? And then I go like- That you should get into more examples. That's so funny. The idea of what he did before he was

sober being the first testament of the Bible is very funny. It is wild. The Old Testament is wild. And it's like, because I even as a kid, because I was full Catholic as a kid. And I remember, you know, every now and then they would read us passages from the Old Testament. And I'd be like, what the hell is going on? You know what I mean? Yeah.

But then like. No, it was like a rave. It was like a rave. Yeah. But then like – No, it was like a rave. It was like a rave. That's funny that like the idea of the guy doing things when he was drunk and now that he's sober, like I feel like I don't know much about the Old Testament. Were you raised Jewish?

I was raised Jewish, but my mom converted. So we were bat mitzvahed, but they were like, you know, reformed Jews. So we heard stories and things like general stories, but they were very much about like, there's a common thread between us. So I didn't learn like a lot of... Right. Even my Torah portion. You were like Unitarians or something. We were Jewish, but like even my Torah portion was like written phonetically on top of the Torah.

Like I put like cheat notes on top of it. They were like, yeah, they're very casual about it. So yeah. But I think that I don't know a lot about like the crazy things that happen in the Old Testament. But I feel like that's very funny. Yeah. Like I was like, I was trying to riff on that. I was like, on day one, I made light.

Could have been day two. A lot of stuff happened. You know what I mean? It blurs together. I thought that would be the relatable, not the relatable, but the recognizable part of the Old Testament was like just Genesis. Yes. Because then it's like, you know, we all kind of know like the seven days

and then I rested and all that shit. Yeah, but I do think you should mix in more things because that's a really funny aspect of the joke. I've never heard anybody speak about it that way. Yeah. And then the other thing I wrote down is I'm working on this bit about I went to strip clubs in my 20s and I don't really go anymore. Not because my wife wouldn't let me, but when I would come home from the strip club, she wouldn't really want to hear the stories.

That's amazing. And life is really about the stories. Which really goes amazing too, because that leaves some wiggle room there for you. I don't really go to strip clubs. Oh, right, right, right. I don't really, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I've probably, I don't know,

I've gone like twice in the last 15 years or something like that. Yeah, yeah. But like, but yeah, no, in my 20s, it's just like, I was thinking about it the other day. I was like, people in their 20s who go to strip clubs, I'm like, I get it. People in their 70s, I get it. 30 through 60, I'm like, what's happening? Yeah, something else.

What's going on in your life? It's more of a red flag. I get it. 20s, you're lost. 70s, you're almost dead. 70s is insane but delightful. You're like, I love this guy. 70s is it's just it's insane but delightful you're like I love this guy I want to know the guy

that's sitting in a strip club when he's 70 but yeah 40s 50s there's a darkness because you kind of know it you get it

like 70s you've lost it again so you don't know what's going on anymore like you know what I mean you don't have any information anymore you lost it all that's right 30s 40s

you kind of have an idea of the fact that they don't want to be there and they don't believe in you as a man but when you're 70 you don't know if you just shit yourself. So why the fuck not? Should you get motorboated or whatever?

Anyway, as a mother, I just want to say. The final thing that we do is called Working Out for a Cause. What is a nonprofit that you like to support? And we will contribute and link to them in the show notes. Friends of firefighters. I do a lot of stuff with them. They offer free services to entire FDNY families, free therapy, free acupuncture. They're right here in Brooklyn. They're on Van Brunt Street. And a lot of firefighters don't know that they have all of this. and some firefighters don't always want to get therapy on the job, they can, it's available

but they don't want it normalize acupuncture for firefighters yeah that's right, that's a fucking command that's how I feel about it normalize therapy for firefighters it's such a cry for help for you you're like, it's for therapy

for firefighters, you know, like maybe my husband might want to go to therapy. Please. No, but they offer all kinds of amazing free services and they're in a firehouse. So it's super cool because firefighters work with friends of firefighters to kind of make it normal and comfortable and yeah, so it's amazing.

We're going to link to them in the show notes. We're going to contribute to them. Rachel Feinstein, I mean, legend. Can I say one more thing? Sorry. Also the Billy Moon Foundation. Billy was a firefighter that died on the job and his wife, Christina Moon, has two young daughters.

I just did an event for Billy on Sunday. So Billy Moon Foundation is basically, Billy donated all his organs after he passed away. And actually one of them, I believe, saved another person on duty's life. So it's a really cool, and they kind of help people to do that, to donate organs and do things

that Billy was able to do posthumously. I always pronounce that word wrong. Anyway, Billy Moon Foundation, Christina Moon is lovely. Hi, Christina. I'm sorry, it's posthumously. Posthumously, I always pronounce that word wrong. Anyway, Billy Moon Foundation. Christina Moon is lovely. Hi, Christina. I'm sorry. It's posthumously. Posthumously.

I knew I said it wrong. See, I told you I run dumb. That's the thing. I don't know words and stuff. Just cut me off. Rachel, you're done. We're cutting off your microphone. We're taking away your meds.

We're taking away your ADD medication. My husband's a hero.. My husband's a hero. But my husband's a hero. But I'm the chief's wife. I get anything I fucking want. Working it out, because it's not done. Working it out, because there's no hope. That's going to do it for another episode of Working It Out. You can follow Rachel on Instagram at Rachel Feinstein underscore.

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Special thanks, as always, to our daughter Una, who built the original radio fort made of pillows, which made this podcast possible. Thanks most of all to you who are listening. If you're enjoying the show, please rate us and review us on Apple Podcasts. It's the simplest thing. You go over to Apple Podcasts, you go one star, two stars, three stars, four stars, five stars. If you go five stars, chances are somebody's going to find the show. And we would really, really appreciate it. As always, tell your friends, tell your enemies. Let's say you're dating somebody and you say,

let's cuddle. Let's not make love. Let's cuddle. Because I want to wait for you to say I love you before we make love. So let's just cuddle. And they say, well, what about this hotel? And the hotel is like a little bit, it's not great. They're just playing porn on the TV screen. This is a very specific example. But there's just porn on the television. I would say turn off the television and say, you know what I think you might enjoy?

A podcast about creating jokes and writing things that you'd never imagine writing in your wildest dreams. And maybe you'll do that together at the worst hotel you've ever been to. See you next time, everybody.