Mike Birbiglia's Working It Out - BEST OF WIO: Rachel Feinstein
Episode Date: January 6, 2025Rachel Feinstein Returns: She's on Fire(Recorded June 2024) Working It Out hall-of-famer Rachel Feinstein returns to the podcast on the heels of her hit Netflix special Big Guy. Rachel explains why he...r firefighter husband loves being roasted in her special and why he pronounces the word “cash” like “quiche.” Rachel shares an absurd road story featuring Kevin Hart and Keith Robinson and discusses why you should never ask a comic how *they* felt about their show. Plus, new material about God getting sober, normalizing spa days, and Rachel attempting to cuddle with a boyfriend at the scariest hotel she’s ever stayed at.Please consider donating to Friends of Firefighters and The Billy Moon Foundation
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For a gift for your wedding, your husband got you,
like Costco pajamas or something?
Yeah, a Costco pajamas.
What did he get you for Mother's Day?
A $50 Amazon gift card.
I mean, this is just outrageous.
I mean, it's outrageous.
Nothing says you're a blank slate in my mind,
like an Amazon gift card. Like, that's what you give a Nothing says you're a blank slate in my mind, like an Amazon gift card.
Like, that's what you give a super.
You're a blank slate.
There was definitely a moment where he was like 75,
and then he was like, nah, not for her.
Not for her.
50 feels right.
That is the voice of the great Rachel Feinstein.
Happy New Year, y'all. We're re-airing this episode with Rachel from last year because it was one of my absolute favorite episodes of the year. It was her second appearance on Working It Out. Vinny's in Point Pleasant, New Jersey, January 24th and 25th in Panama City Beach, Florida,
and January 31st and February 1st in Eugene, Oregon.
Oh, I love Eugene, Oregon.
Thanks to everyone who's come out to my shows
in the last year.
It has been an amazing time.
Next up, I'm gonna be in Iowa City,
which has added a third and final show, January 11th.
Then I'll be in Pickering, Ontario.
I'll be in Baltimore, the Baltimore Center Stage.
Northampton, Massachusetts, and Burlington, Vermont.
Stay tuned for some Los Angeles announcements.
All of this is building up towards the good life shows
at the Beacon Theater in March.
Four shows, tickets are going fast.
Check it out for Biggs.com. I think you're gonna love this conversation with
Rachel. We talked about jokes that ended up in her Netflix special, Big Guy, which
is streaming now. You'll love the special and you'll love this chat. Enjoy my
conversation with the great Rachel Feinstein. I'm reluctant to say how much I laughed at the special because then people hear the other
episodes of the show and be like, well, he didn't say he laughed that hard for the other
specials, so maybe that's a tell.
But I feel like I'm able to say this
because I've seen you perform at the Comedy Cell
so many times, like we've been back to back.
Yeah, you've been a great friend to me through the years.
Oh, no, I don't even, I don't mean it to put it on myself.
No, that's not what you're saying.
No, I'm saying that.
You're always like, I feel like I'm always seeing you
and venting about some weird neuroses,
and you're very calming, and you're always like,
it's okay, nobody's thinking about that.
Like you're right, you've always just been
a voice of reason.
I think maybe it's possible that that's your trauma
is just helping me be like, oh, I'm okay, I guess.
I really need that energy all the time.
I'm like, I need your voice in my head.
Totally. Yeah.
I mean, I talk about it in special.
My husband's the opposite.
He'll be like, solid or like, you know.
He's always like.
Solid.
He said solid.
That's what he said.
At my Netflix special.
He's like, solid, how do you feel?
Oh my God, solid, how do you feel?
How do you feel, by the way?
It's what comedians hate.
Do never ask us how we felt.
Don't ask us how we felt.
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
There's a public service announcement to any,
if you were a friend to any performer,
do not ask the performer how they felt about it afterwards.
Yes, it makes us feel like we,
that it was up in the air.
We don't know if we did a good job or not.
And how do we feel about what happened?
Like it was a weird incident that we're still digesting.
Like it was a weird incident.
Yeah, how do you feel?
Like, yeah, that's what people say after like,
I don't know, like you have an operation or something.
It's not good.
So how does your husband pronounce the word C-A-S-H?
Kish.
Kish.
Kish.
You say this in a special.
I'm like, the way you were saying it,
I thought it was like a spinach kish.
Somebody told me you have to say it twice
because people don't know what you mean.
So I've started to say it twice now
because people are like, what the hell is that?
Yeah. Quiche.
They say quiche.
And here's the weird thing.
His brother has no accent whatsoever.
So I'm like, why do you talk like this?
And they pronounce it like foya, foyda, F-I-Y-A-F-I-D-A.
For F-I-R-E.
For firefighter.
F-I-G-H-T-E-R, firefighter.
Firefighter. Yes.
New York fireman.
Foyah, foyah. Foyah, foyah.
It sounds like a little kid trying to say what his daddy does.
Like, my daddy's a foyah, foyah.
Oh my God.
And I asked his brother, I'm like, why does he speak like this?
It's like a cartoon of a New York accent.
And his brother's like, the firehouse.
This explains everything, question you have about your husband.
Any female that's listening to this,
imagine if your fucking husband went and lived in a house
with 12 of guy friends for half your marriage.
And he doesn't... He keeps going back there.
It's the fire fraternity.
Yeah. It's not good.
And he's like 40-something years old.
He's not like a young man in a fraternity.
They don't like come up with better ideas together. I's not like a young man in a fraternity.
They don't like come up with better ideas together.
I talk about this in the special, but it's true.
It's like they don't. They're not like cooking up better.
No. And then they go there
and they probably vent about their why.
God knows what they say.
And a lot of times, a lot of times I didn't realize this,
but like I do jokes on stage or tell stories on stage
and here's what's happened.
So now since I've started talking about being married
to a firefighter, half of my crowd is firefighter families
or first responder families.
And they come up to me, fire spouses, wives, whatever.
And they're like, oh, you know why he does that?
That's the firehouse.
So they've explained a lot of things to me that I go,
oh, I didn't know that was the firehouse.
So they're like, oh yeah, no, like that's worse.
You know, like, he won't sit still.
They all have second jobs.
My friend's like, yeah, they all do
because they're traumatized and they don't wanna go home.
They don't wanna go home to you.
Yeah, that was an interesting thing you say in the special
is they don't wanna go, they have second jobs,
not because they need the job financially,
but they don't want to go home to their wives.
And you say this, you say this like,
it's not even really a joke, it's just a true thing.
Because I laugh so much because I kind of relate,
because it's like comedians, like we get to go,
we joke around with each other.
Like I do also get it, because we sit at a table
at the cellar and we just like talk immense amounts of shit
and we're just general morons with each other
and it's so fun and then we have to go home at a certain point. So it's like talk immense amounts of shit and we're just general morons with each other and it's so fun.
And then we have to go home at a certain point.
Yeah.
So it's like, I get why you just want to go home
because that's always been me.
Like at a certain point in the cellar I'm like,
I gotta go back home and be normal.
Yeah.
The cellar is a certain type of firehouse.
Yeah.
Because you do have to work, you do have to get on stage,
but then for the most part you're waiting around
for the next time you get on stage.
And we're the real heroes.
Obviously we're the real heroes.
My favorite, the Comedy Sailor is my other than home
is my favorite place to be.
I just love being there.
I just love being there too.
Like last night, it's like whatever cocktail
of weird, unhealthy, dark feelings are brewing in my head
during the day, I just go there, I sit down,
talk some shit, and then feel better.
I do, I feel better.
And I think like, there's always, people will,
comedians are always willing to trash anything.
So if you walk in and you trash show business,
if you trash your parents, if you trash your best friend,
someone will yes and what you're saying.
And it's so fun because it's the only place
we're allowed to be this level of heightened asshole.
Yes.
Like I walked into the cellar last night
and Keith Roberts said, he's like,
I'm not gonna watch Rachel's special.
I'll turn it off by electricity
so I don't have to watch it.
Ha ha ha! And I was like crying laughing. You off my electricity, so I don't have to watch it. Ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha!
And I was like crying laughing.
You don't have electricity,
so I don't have to watch it?
We're all trashing each other.
I'm like, Keith, you're the only person I know
that got fat for their special.
Who puts on weight for their special?
You know, and he was like,
he was like, eh, Rachel's outfit stinks.
And he was just trashing me the whole night,
making fun of my horrible outfits and how I can't dress.
And they were all doing different impressions of my outfits.
And it was making me laugh so hard.
Like they said, I dress like I shop at suburban outfitters.
And I was like, this is so funny.
Suburban outfitters is so good.
It's so good. Yeah, yeah.
And it makes me laugh so much.
And so it's like the only place where we could do this
and we're not gonna, I mean, everywhere else I go,
I have to remember, you know,
how I have to like talk and act,
but it makes me laugh a lot,
especially when they trash me, it's really funny.
Keys was like, the thing about Rachel is that people
don't understand is that she's dumb.
She's very dumb at a core level.
She's not a smart person.
And I was laughing so hard I was crying
because he is kind of right.
Like I get credit for being intelligent, I think,
because I'm like sarcastic and Jewish,
but I have like no information.
And so it was making me cry,
but it's like the only place we can do that with each other
and it's okay.
And it also makes you not believe your own nonsense.
Like, you know.
Oh, completely.
No, no, it's constant poking of holes
in your entire identity.
Which is somehow healthy, I think.
Somehow I love it.
Yeah.
It's nothing like the rest of life.
Everything in life is so polite.
And then when, yeah, somehow, whether it's the firehouse or the commie cellar or whatever,
whatever the firehouse is to you, because I don't know if everybody has that.
Maybe some people have that with like, like, group-backed tennis.
Yeah, people have that little circle
where they fill their most themselves.
Yeah, tell us in the comments, what's your firehouse?
Tell us in the comments, what's your firehouse?
Yeah, yeah.
Even the fact that I'm talking about firefighters,
they trash me for it.
And like, Keith brought me on stage saying,
this next comedian works for the fire department.
Wait, I don't even know if you're allowed
to tell this story, because I think it's on Keith's
forthcoming special, the Kevin Hart story. Does he tell it? Oh, yeah, we could talk if you're allowed to tell this story because I think it's on Keith's forthcoming special.
The Kevin Hart story, does he tell it?
Oh yeah, we can talk about it.
Does he tell it?
Yeah, we can talk about it a little bit, it's fine.
Okay, here's how I remember it, Keith telling it.
You, Kevin Hart, and Keith were driving home from a gig
like years ago, and you got pulled over by the cops?
Yes, we were like driving down this dark country road
and Keith was joking, teasing me about how my dad's a civil rights lawyer.
Mm-hmm.
He's like, we don't need his help. Tell him we don't need it.
And he goes, we don't need him. Lean on me.
He kept calling me, which is the oldest movie reference, like a 50-year-old movie.
And he's like, tell him we're good without him.
And then he goes, you know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to attack Rachel and let her dad defend me.
Oh my God.
He goes, I'm gonna call him up
and I'm gonna say, Mr. Fatside,
this is the case that's gonna make you a star.
Oh my God.
He said he was gonna throw me out of the car
and then have his dad and my dad defend.
Oh my God.
But anyway, so Keith was making me cry laughing.
Then on the way home, he was doing this thing
where he was screaming out the window.
He was like, shh, quiet, quiet.
Like, he'll just tell people to shush.
It'll be in the middle of like McDougall and Bleeker,
like a busy corner of the street.
And Keith would be like, if you don't mind,
just keep it down, it'll just lower the volume.
And he gets screamed at.
Like this lady was like,
why would you tell me to be quiet?
I'm outside, there's a tree near me.
And he's like, I just need you to just lower it
just a little, if you don't mind.
Yeah, so he was basically,
I think he was screaming out the window,
something to the extent of like, keep it down
for just people that were passing him on the street.
Just like, keep it down,
just on some people passing on the sidewalk.
So the cops follow us, right?
They let me out in my house.
And then apparently whatever happened afterwards,
they got arrested.
This is years ago.
Many, many, many years ago.
I mean, Kevin Hart was opening for Keith Robinson.
So this was 19-
100 years ago.
Yes.
So I'm 70.
So just put that into perspective.
So I'm 72 today.
But no, so this was many,
many years ago.
So they dropped me off and I went inside.
This is after a gig, I think.
After a gig, yes.
And where I bombed violently
and Keith had the time of his life watching me bomb.
He was in the back like, that's right.
That's how you bomb.
Oh my God.
I mean, just they hated me
and Keith thought it was so funny how horrifically I bombed.
It was the kind of bomb where you're a little shook up
afterwards, like I needed some help kind of processing it.
Yeah.
And we were driving back and I remember I was-
I'm a regular.
I remember I was reading Catcher of the Rye in the car
and I was young enough to be reading that book
and he looks back and he goes,
eh, you know what, you bugged me.
The way you're reading that dumb book and enjoying it.
It just irritates me.
I'm like, what's wrong with this man?
I was like Sandy from Grease.
I didn't know how ruthless comedians were.
I'm like, why would he say that?
But I'm enjoying a piece of literature.
And then he takes it out of my hand, hurls the book out the window.
Then Kevin says, I really want a sandwich.
He's like, I'm hungry.
And he's like, yeah, what kind of sandwich do you want?
So Kevin starts discussing what he wants to eat.
He's like, you know, it'd be nice.
And, you know, and then thinking it together,
he goes, you know what?
I'm gonna get that for you right now, Kevin.
I knew something evil was coming at this point
because I'd begun to understand his character.
So we stop and Kevin gets a big sub.
He's dressing it.
He's putting all his things on it.
He's making it just right, Keith's driving,
he's like, you want to eat that, don't you?
You're really just excited, you know that feeling
when you're about to eat something,
you really want to eat, and Kevin's just like, yeah.
And then Keith takes it out of his hand
and hurls the whole tough thing out the window.
Oh my God.
And they were both laughing so hard,
and I was like, what the fuck?
But you know, now I'm like them.
I've become as rotten inside.
But yeah, he just took it out.
He took that sandwich right.
The birds had a nice fat sub that day.
Wait, so then did you get pulled over from that?
No, oh, sorry.
I was just jumping around.
No, we got pulled over from that, sorry.
That was earlier in the day.
Okay.
I need to speak in order.
I don't know exactly what happened,
but they got pulled over after I left.
And they got arrested and Keith said he was,
he had some words with the officer.
So they get arrested.
So I developed a plan to rescue them from the, so.
To rescue them from the, so. To rescue them from jail.
Keith was like, we don't need you, you white bitch.
So I was like pulling my resources,
I was like, free Keith, you know what I mean?
And then, so I think I like tried to save some money
up to bail him out.
I was still a nanny full time, like I didn't have money.
You know, I was like roommates with Sherrod.
We lived in like a, you know, an old law tenement.
You know, I lived, I was like on the top bunk.
You had to walk through my room to get to the bathroom.
The bathroom had no door.
Like we had no money.
So I was like scraping together like a funds to, you know,
get him, get him free.
And then I was like, I got a sandwich and Buddy Bolton,
who was my, our next door neighbor, if you remember Buddy,
he decided that we should put a note in the sandwich.
Wait, you should bring a sandwich to the jail
and put a note in?
And what does the note say?
We're gonna get you out of here.
That was like an episode of Three's Company.
This is outrageous.
So I was so proud of it.
Me and Buddy were so excited.
And then Keith, to this day, makes so much fun of me putting a note in a sandwich.
You actually did it.
We did it.
We put the note in a sandwich and said, we're going to get you out of here.
Stay strong or something.
Oh my God.
Your special is blown up.
It's number five on Netflix.
Of all television. Crazy. It's crazy. It's number five on Netflix. Of all television.
Crazy.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
You must feel great.
I'm excited.
To this morning, at this very moment,
I'm like able to be happy about it, you know?
You make fun of Italian stereotypes
by using the names Gina and Vince,
my dad and my sister.
My dad is Vince, my sister is Gina.
You're like, Vince, get over here.
Gina wants to talk to you.
It's like, oh, literally my family members.
I apologize, Michael.
Yeah, a lot of the firefighters,
in the area I live in, in Queens,
it's like all cops and firefighter families.
So they're you know
They're all like the kind of guys that are like, you know, my daughters
They're the loves of my life Isabella Gianna and Isabella. I school in the three loves of my life
So they all kind of like talk like that. It's a whole nother world from what I'm used to
Yeah, like there is like not a Jew for miles
Like, there is, like, not a Jew for miles.
Yeah, it's just a weird, like, I'm inside of this whole world now,
because now he's a battalion chief,
so it's like, you know, we have to go,
when he gets promoted, we get a cake,
we bring to the boss's office,
we sit in his office.
Oh my God.
You know, and we tell him, thank you.
And you're part of this.
I'm part of this, because I am now the chief's wife.
So there's a lot involved with that.
It's not supposed to involve me saying twat on television,
but it does.
What's funny, you talk about how your daughter is like,
my dad's a hero and my mom is sarcastic.
It's such a great line.
I still think Pete told her to say that.
I'm like, how did she come up with sarcastic?
He won't admit it.
Because I was like, you're telling it like it's true.
And I'm like, is that true?
Like, how is it possible?
It's true, but I believe he fed it to her,
but he's not admitting it.
Yeah, they asked my daughter at her school
what her mommy daddy did, and she said,
my daddy's a hero and my mommy's sarcastic.
And Pete's like, yeah, I wonder where she got that.
I'm like, I wonder where she got that.
Yeah, but I mean, she definitely like takes his job seriously
and looks at me like, but what do you really do?
Like, yeah.
For a gift for your wedding, your husband got you, like Costco pajamas or something?
Yeah, a Costco pajamas.
What did he get you for Mother's Day?
A $50 Amazon gift card.
I mean, this is just outrageous.
I mean, it's outrageous.
Nothing says you're a blank slate in my mind,
like an Amazon gift card.
Like that's what you give a super. you're a blank slate in my mind like an Amazon gift card like that's what you give a super
You're a blank slate that there's you know, there's a moment
I talk about this I haven't talked about in stage yet, but I'm going to but like there's no there was definitely a moment
Where he was like 75 and then he was like nah not for her
Not for her 50 feels right
Is he doing the bit at this point like $50 gift card from Amazon feels like almost a bit.
It's horrific. No.
He is just like...
Has he ever surprised you with something that's like special?
When Pete gets me a nice gift,
I know that there was a team of people
that had to work on it with him
and like, re-steer him in the right direction.
His gifts are disastrous., like they're brutal.
They're hurtful.
This thing made me laugh so hard.
Do you remember Taryn Peta-Maya?
If you're doing an impression of your mom.
Yes, my mom.
It's exactly my mom.
Really?
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's the sleight of hand
of stand-up comedy is like you watch someone talk about their,
yeah, do their mom and you're like, oh, that's my mom.
You do this thing of your mom basically saying,
you remember this person and you kind of
don't remember the person.
And then she says a crazy thing about the person.
Yeah, she loves to tell me dark health updates
of people I don't remember.
Just like really weird, upsetting news.
Yeah, any recently?
She told me, this is when she just repeats a lot,
that if somebody she once knew
who went up in a hot air balloon,
they knew someone that went in a hot air balloon,
and then it just crashed and they died.
And I'm like, mom, that's not a fun loving tale.
Why do you keep repeating the hot air balloon story?
Yeah, and she gets really into it.
And did I, do you remember?
And she always says it like she doesn't want to say it.
I'm like, yeah, I remember.
Cause you told me that when I was like eight
and you told me many times and it's not a fun tale bomb
but she loves to tell me just like very dark stuff
or just updates of, but then she always puts a spin
on it at the end.
Well, I just thought you might want to know
and would be concerned, but I guess I'm the bad guy.
So there's always like a last minute turn
where she's somehow the victim of her own
weird morose updates she gives me.
My mom has it where she'll say something
that is so extreme from her life
that like, I'm just like, how did I not hear this sooner?
Like she'll be like, I used to work at a children's hospital
when I was in my twenties, and I became best friends
with this girl who was 11,
and then she was diagnosed with blank,
and then I invited her to my wedding,
and then, but then she died.
And then I'm like, oh, okay, all right,
well, that's like a huge thing to happen.
So she-
I don't think they would deal with anything
because they're of that generation.
Oh, is that what it is?
I think, and then it just comes out in these weird,
and I think I have no real hard information,
but Jessica Kersen told me it's like trauma bonding.
Like they bond with you through telling you
about another trauma, but I've noticed
that my mom doesn't really connect so much to the trauma
if it's happening to anybody who's super close to her.
Okay.
But she likes to, and even if you tell her
about something that's happening to you,
she needs to relate it to like a neighbor's colon cancer
or something, like somebody that this person
doesn't even know.
Maybe the trauma bonding thing is part of what
we're talking about firefighters do with each other.
And maybe it's part of what we do at the Comedy Seller.
Yes, yeah, I think you're right.
And also thinking about it,
I guess like when I love when people try,
comedians trash me or say mock my outfits
or whatever makes me laugh,
I probably also getting ahead of what I'm gonna hear
somewhere else.
So people yell things at me on stage.
I read YouTube comments and don't take them
in a fun loving way.
No, I get like hurt, like haunted by them.
Yeah, don't do that.
So yeah, I have to not do that anymore.
Really can't do it.
It got stopped.
Yeah, I have to stop.
No, but I've read stuff this week
that it's just giving me brand new insecurities. Oh God. So you can't I really can't do it. It got stopped. Yeah, I have to stop. No, but I've read stuff this week that it's just given me brand new insecurities.
Oh God.
So you can't, you can't read it.
I've read so many terrible things recently.
And yeah, brand new things.
What's the thing that gets to you?
What's the thing that people say
that actually crosses the line?
I don't know.
I mean, there's a lot about, you know, how I look.
And somebody said your arms are fatter than last week.
That means someone's tracking my arms fat.
It's so horrible.
It's better than last week.
That means they're checking in with each other.
I also feel like friendships are made.
People bond over hating me because I've seen some people, like somebody write one comment
and they'd be like, oh, you're hating me, because I've seen some people, like somebody write one comment,
they'd be like, oh, you're telling me, this poor guy, you know.
Or I think definitely, what probably actually really hurts me the most
is when people misunderstand my material or just feel like
I'm just throwing Pete under the bus and that Pete's not in on the joke
and he doesn't get a kick out of it too, or that I'm like,
look, I'm laughing at the whole lifestyle and what I experience and there's a cocktail of things
you experience when you're married to a firefighter
and a lot of it's hard and I mock it
and mock all the nonsense around it.
So people are thinking that I'm somehow disrespecting him
or his job, it's like, that's painful
because I feel like, look, firefighters are coming out
because they need it, they like it,
that I talk about them.
Some of them don't, I'm sure.
It's not like, you know, I'm sure there's plenty of people
that like or don't like my material,
but what I've found across the board
is that they can take a joke like a joke,
and that's one thing I'm really grateful for,
and probably need that more than anybody.
So I'm grateful for that.
I think anybody who works in any life-threatening job
has developed
some kind of gallows humor.
Yeah.
Right?
Like it's a coping mechanism.
I would think so.
Like I have a really dark joke on stage
I'm touring with right now,
and I literally say to the audience,
like most of the jokes are for you,
and that one's for me.
And the audience kinda gets it.
You know what I mean?
That's what I find, like,
I used to rush a lot, I still do,
but I feel like sometimes if I'm a little slower
and just say that one weird vulnerable thing
that doesn't necessarily have a huge laugh with it,
that sometimes those are the jokes
and the moments people remember more than anything else.
I think so. Yeah.
So there's a bit I have, it's not even a bit.
I just talk about how when I go home to visit my family,
I'm okay for six minutes
and then I feel weirdly furious afterwards. It's not a bit yet, it's just kind of a feeling to visit my family, I'm okay for like six minutes, and then I feel like weirdly furious afterwards.
It's not a bit yet, it's just kind of a feeling.
That's great, I love that.
But people mention that more,
because they're like,
oh, I feel like that when I go home too.
Maybe it makes them feel less bad about going home.
I don't know, or feeling that way when they go home.
That makes perfect sense.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.
And then I say after that,
how I feel a terrible guilt
about feeling this throbbing hostility,
but maybe that makes people feel like,
oh, okay, that's all normal or something.
So I think it's good to be vulnerable in those ways.
Is there anything from this special
that you feel like rubbed some people the wrong way?
There's a joke I say about people,
well, we could be in the middle of an argument
and people will stop and be like,
thank you for your service or whatever.
And I'll be like, he's being kind of a dick right now.
And I feel like firefighters laugh like crazy at that
because everybody knows that's what they have to stop
and listen to, you know what I'm saying?
So like, I feel like I get,
I feel like most firefighters laugh at that
because they know they hear that every day
and their wives or husbands do too.
But what I'm trying to say is that it's just a moment
in time and you don't know what's happening in that time.
I'm not saying they shouldn't be thanked for their service
or that it's not remarkable, but yeah,
there's gonna be somebody that would say that that's wrong,
but it's a moment in our day where that might happen.
And there is a certain isolation and emotional isolation
to be with somebody that goes into very traumatic situations a lot.
There is a certain loneliness to being married
to somebody that does that.
So there's a different quality there.
So whatever you need from them that you might not get
or whatever it is,
I'm not saying everybody experiences that,
but for myself, I found that, yeah,
they have to check out in a certain way
that's very necessary for their job at moments,
and it doesn't always transition back to the home easily.
So I feel like, I don't know, maybe somebody will see
that that's where I'm coming from a little bit,
or maybe they won't, I don't know.
If you married an accountant who drove a Toyota Camry,
would you still have a new one-hour special?
No. If you married an accountant who drove a Toyota Camry, would you still have a new one hour special? No.
No way.
It absolutely is because I married a firefighter.
I owe them everything.
Yes, why do they got, yes, yes.
Not at all.
No, he gave me a good solid hour.
The thing that I screamed laughing, I think at the most,
and I laughed throughout the entirety of your special,
is what your mother-in-law says to you.
Did she, can you say what she said and then object?
Yes, that's the thing I'm terrified about
because I haven't talked to her today
and she doesn't know about that special and I'm so scared.
Okay, that makes sense because it's so,
I mean she's not going to listen to this podcast,
so I think you're okay, but can you say what she said?
Just don't clip it, yeah, but you can.
Okay, we won't clip it.
Okay, she tells me these things,
it's like these compliments that slowly turn into insults,
so it always starts out good with her.
So she'd be like, my son is happy with you.
He's a happy man.
You know why?
Because he needs to laugh.
With this job, laughter is important.
He always had the most gorgeous girlfriends,
but he was bored by them, beautiful though.
Just smoke shots.
But with you, he has a chuckle.
He needs that.
Oh yes, she did.
With you, he has a chuckle.
He needs to laugh.
With you, he has a chuckle.
I mean, this is, you cannot write comedy better than that.
With you, he has a chuckle.
He needs to laugh, sweetheart.
It's important. He's happy.
He doesn't need a smoking hot, just gorgeous.
I mean, really just like an ass that's just neighborhood approved.
He needs to laugh.
That's what he needs.
He needs a gangrenous clown to set him straight.
And so she's never seen that joke?
No, and she is going to see it, and I'm really nervous,
and I haven't heard from her since the special,
because she said she was going to watch it,
and I tried to tell her on Monday
because it was my daughter's birthday
and we had them all over,
and I just tried to find the right moment
to tell her that I'd do one joke about her,
and I didn't, I just bailed.
I'm so glad you did that joke.
Thank you.
It's so funny, I was just dying.
My mother-in-law just like,
she's just obsessed with my husband
and I had the opposite.
I was the third favorite.
I asked my mom and she said it,
I was like, you know you love Justin the most
and then Aaron and then me and she was like, ah.
Like she couldn't lie, she like fucked her neck up trying.
She's like, ah! Like she couldn't lie, she like fucked her neck up trying. She's like, ah!
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What are people's favorite and least favorite thing about you?
In general?
Yeah.
I get in trouble a lot because I'm a mess.
I'm like a liability.
Well, you're a half hour late for this conversation.
Yes, I was.
But that's not a big deal.
But I'm just giving context to the listeners.
No, but it really was bad.
That was like later than I've ever wanted to be.
I'm usually more on time for comedy,
but this morning was especially rough.
And it's not okay, I'm sorry.
But I'm a mess and I fuck things up.
And I drop things and I lose things
and I lose other people's things.
Oh, interesting.
What's the worst thing you've ever lost?
Oh my God, laptops, passports,
whole bags I've left at the airport.
Oh wow.
A Rolex.
A Rolex, my God.
That's gotta be like a five or $10,000 item, right?
A Rolex?
Yeah, and I lost it.
Yeah, it's not good.
Someone gave you a Rolex watch and you lost it?
In a move, yeah.
Oof.
It was not good.
No, I lose things and I'm like a wild mess
and I try really hard and I'm trying.
Have you talked about this on stage?
I haven't talked about it in a little bit
because my husband is the opposite.
Like if you look at his nightstand,
it's like a military fucking ship is run.
And what he wants in life is for my shit
not to fuck up his shit.
And that is what he wants.
Like so he comes home, he's like, what's this over here?
Why is this like this?
You know, like so, he's like, what's this over here? Why is this like this? And that was one of the things,
one of the other fire wives, badge bangers told me,
she was like, hey, the reason he does that,
the morning drill, she's like,
my husband does the same thing,
it's because they do morning drills at the firehouse.
So I guess Pete goes around and he's like,
what's this over here?
Why is this over here?
It looks like you brought it over there.
What were you gonna do? I always have to tell him why I was gonna do something, what I was thinking. I'm like, I'm not thinking. That's's like, what's this over here? Why is this over here? It looks like you brought it over there. What were you gonna do?
I always have to tell him why I was gonna do something,
what I was thinking.
I'm like, I'm not thinking.
That's the thing.
That's the problem.
My hands are taking trips throughout the day.
I don't know where they went, you know?
I was just telling you this before we started.
What's the worst accommodations
you've ever been given on a gig?
Oh my God.
I mean, I've stated some, I mean,
like holes in the sheets, like $37 hotels.
Oh, $37 hotels.
When I was featuring, I would just get whatever
I could afford with my nanny money.
You know, like I've stated just actively dangerous,
like just, but.
I've had some actively dangerous ones.
I showed up in Indianapolis once,
I had to, I was forced to stay,
for whatever reason, I lost my wallet or something.
I stayed at a Dollar Inn, and it was at the airport.
Wait, what is it called at Dollar Inn?
I never even heard of it.
Oh, it's called the Dollar Inn.
And I'm not even kidding.
I don't know why I haven't heard of that.
It's amazing.
It was the Dollar Inn and it was like one of those ones.
You ever do one where you go and you're sure
that they have a shotgun behind the glass?
You're like, oh, okay, well, this feels very dangerous.
Yeah.
What's the-
A dollar, it is amazing though.
How bad was it?
What was it like?
I don't think I slept a lot.
I think I slept probably two and a half hours.
That was the one where you slept on top of the cover.
I've done that a lot where I slept on top of the cover.
The main thing is when you're in a bed,
when you're given a really bad hotel room,
you take the cover off immediately.
Yeah.
What's the worst hotel you've been at ever?
No, I was thinking the worst hotel that I've ever stayed at
was actually not with Stand Up.
It was when I had started to date this guy
that I met a show, the only guy I've ever met at a show
and dated, if you could call it that.
He was a nurse, he lived with his grandmother.
Where was this?
This was in Brooklyn.
And we were gonna, I told him we could cuddle,
but we couldn't have sex or something.
And he was like, okay.
And then he met my dumb terms,
I used to do a joke about it.
Is it after like a, wait, is it after like a date?
Yeah, we went out like twice and I was like,
we can cuddle, but we can't have sex.
Like I used to have all these like,
I never had like, I could never do like casuals.
I'd be too nervous.
So I would set all these weird, you know,
like pre-parameters.
I used to do a joke about how if I was your sexual attorney,
I'd recommend you don't take this deal.
Like it's not a good deal for you.
That's a great joke.
Yeah, you're gonna be flaccid and kind of angry.
It's not positive.
It's a great joke.
You gotta put that on a special. I should. I mean, that's a riot. That's a great joke, you gotta put that on a special.
I should, yeah.
I mean, that's a riot, that's a great joke.
My friends would make fun of me,
like why do you have these weird like Mormon sleepovers
with all these strange rules and stuff, it was terrible.
Smart, oh it's smart though.
I mean, the reason I did it was because I was like,
oh, I don't want, I wanna make sure that he like loves me
before I have sex with him, but what happens is
that I was exhausting these guys so much
that they were like, fine, where do I sign?
I don't know that I ended up in the right relationships.
I think a guy was just vaguely horny and he had a semi
and he was like, yes, I love you, let's do this.
I'd prefer to be inside you right now, fine,
we're in a relationship.
So I basically...
Fine, I love you.
I just wore them down with my dumb fucking Mormon sleepover. So I basically. Fine, I love you.
I just wore them down with my dumb fucking Mormon sleepovers
and fucking weird attorney-like rules.
So I think I gave this guy, and most guys would sort of
just try or like keep, try to renegotiate
throughout the evening.
Yeah, sure.
And in a respectful way, you know, like to be like,
hey, can we discuss these terms?
And I, you know,'d go over certain things like,
no, tits are complimentary.
Like I'd just let him know.
Oh my God.
And so this guy comes over and my friend, my roommate,
her grandma had just passed away.
And she was so annoyed that I had this guy come over
and she knew about my Christian sleepovers.
And she's like, why are you doing this here?
Like I'm mourning my grandma.
Just get out of here with this weird nurse
that lives with his grandmother that you're dating.
She's like, but you're, he's too young.
Like she just thought the whole situation was very strange.
He was usually date like older.
He was like six years younger than me
and he lived with his grandma
and she thought it was all kind of strange.
And she's like, can you not have your Mormon sleepover
here tonight?
I just want to be thinking about my grandma
and I want you to bring this guy over.
So I was like, okay, we got to get a hotel to cuddle
and this poor guy in Brooklyn.
But we couldn't afford many hotels.
And also not the real hotel capital of the world.
Exactly.
So we ended up in a prostitute hotel
which had a bulletproof glass. And I didn't realize, I didn't know what that was. I didn't know what a prostitute hotel, which had a bulletproof glass.
And like, I didn't realize, I didn't know what that was.
I didn't know what a hooker hotel was.
We go in and then like, we pay, we go upstairs.
I think we had to pay first, like in cash.
In cash, sure.
We go upstairs to cuddle.
The only person that's ever cuddled at this hotel.
Oh my gosh.
We turn on the TV, just blasting porn on every station.
I was like, oh my God, I didn't know they do this at hotels.
I was like, oh yeah, fuck you.
And so I was like, fuck, great.
This is like, now this guy, can you imagine?
He's cuddling to these sounds.
He's cuddling to the porn sounds.
Yeah, and he's just like holding, these were the dumb's probably so hard. He's cuddling to the porn sounds.
Yeah, and he's just like holding, these were the dumbest nights I've ever had in my life.
Neither of us could sleep, I was like, what am I doing, what is this?
And we just kept changing the channel and just be just another woman just like,
Hiya!
Oh my god.
Oh fuck yeah! And I'm like, okay maybe there's no non-porn channels.
So we just turned it off and just laid near each other
and it was probably one of the loneliest nights
of my life, I could say.
Definitely his, I would imagine.
But yeah. Oh dear.
It was not good.
Oh dear. And then we just left
and he just dropped me off and he was just like,
well, and I was like, whelp.
Whelp.
Oh, that was that. Yeah. That was that, yeah.
That's a tough one, okay.
What is a time you were so scared you ran away?
So scared I ran away.
I guess one time, oh, I remember one time on a train,
I was on a train and this guy
sort of was like kind of trying to touch me,
but he was so drunk, he didn't know where he was.
Like he was in that stage of drunk,
where he was like, eh.
He just like thought we were probably talking,
but we weren't.
Like he didn't know what country he was in.
And he just kind of leaned over and he was like,
like some drug had sort of swiped at me.
And so I get up to get off at that stop
and everybody was watching this and I go to him,
you need to stop it.
Like you're being disgusting right now.
Then I get up and I get off, but he got off first.
So it looked like I was like following him and I wanted it.
And so it looked like there was this weird
like naughty game we played every night where I'm like, you and I wanted it. And so it looked like there was this weird, like naughty game we played every night
where I'm like, you need to stop it.
And he was like, mm.
Like everybody watched me like,
and so it looks like I'm following this guy, right?
So then I started to be like, and he was like,
he was just drunkenly swaying.
So I was like, I kind of crunched the numbers
on the idea that he was gonna actually try to assault me.
And I was like, he probably isn't because he's so drunk. You were crunched the numbers on the idea that he was gonna actually try to assault me. And I was like, he probably isn't because he's so drunk.
You were crunching the numbers.
Everything is this attorney persona.
Cause I was like, I'm not trying to make excuses for him.
I was, he was obviously a worthless, worthless man.
But he was like, he tried to like kind of swipe
my tinnage area, but he was like, didn't know where he was.
So it's like, I don't think he's gonna get it together
to really go after me.
But just in case, let me ask this other guy
that had got off the train too,
if he wouldn't mind walking me to my corner
because some guy was just trying to, you know,
someone's full of salt, I don't know what you called that,
trying to smear me.
Groper.
Yeah, it was like a smearing indication. A smear, a Like... Groper. Yeah, it was like a smear-ing indication.
A smear, a smear.
I think the listeners will understand what a smear means.
A physical smear.
A physical smear?
A physical tit-age smear.
Oh, I hate this so much.
This guy was trying to give my tit-age.
Tit-age swipe me.
Yeah, can swipe.
I don't know.
So I tell this guy.
Yeah, I think that's a technical term.
Yeah, can swipe.
I was like, I've been can swiped,
or attempted can swipe.
Oh my God, Jesus.
So I stopped this other guy that's leaving
who had like a little messenger bag
and he looked pretty together.
And I was like, oh, I don't think he wants anything
to do with me right now.
So I was like, hey, do you mind walking me to my corner?
Cause I was just, I had an attempt at titter swiping me
by this man, that drunken smear over there.
And the man was a smear, the smear was a smear.
Anyway, I saw the guy the whole story,
and he kind of looks at me and looks at the guy,
and he just thought we were involved in something together
that he didn't want to be in the middle of.
And he was like, no, no thank you, basically.
You actually had to cry for help, and it was rejected.
Yeah, he was like, no thank you.
And he was like, he saw that little thing,
he thought it was a play we did back and forth.
Oh, God.
You know?
Because then he saw me follow him out
and he's like, I'm not getting in the middle
of their sex game right now.
And then I just ran.
I've been doing a bit lately, every now and then,
at The Cellar, where I'm like, the governor wants to,
you know, the subway is in rough shape,
so it's like the governor wants to bring in
the National Guard and I'm like,
I don't think that's the right person,
but like, we should call somebody.
Like, something's going on.
It's not good, I'll tell you that.
What's the end game here?
What's going on in the trains?
I don't know. It's not good.
It's not good for transport currently.
It's not good for anything.
I don't want to bring my daughter on.
And I love the subway.
Yeah.
My grandfather worked in the subway tunnels.
No, I've been taking Ubers lately.
Yeah, it's wild.
No, people are getting punched.
I'm like, I don't want to get clocked on my way
to Kelly Clarkson.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm like, no thanks.
I'd rather not have a right hook on the way
to do my fun loving morning show right now.
Um, what nicknames have you been given in your life
that were particularly bad or good?
Let's see here.
Pete also calls me Chief.
He's always like, you had a real Chief, which is so stupid.
There's Big Guy, Chief.
Um, he called me Large Cat for a while.
What does Keith call you?
Keith?
Um, what does Keith call me?
I can't remember what Keith calls me.
Did Patrice used to make fun of you when he was alive?
Yeah.
What would he say?
I was fucking my way to the middle.
Oh my God.
Which is funny because I wasn't even dating comics.
I was doing like union work.
You're fucking your way to the middle is too much!
It was good.
Patrice used to make fun of me so much.
He called me Mike Bighead.
That was a big thing he called me.
But I have to say, as mean as he was,
and he was truly, truly mean, he was funny.
He's brilliantly funny, yeah.
It's like one of those things you shrug, you go, I don't know.
Yeah, he would just look at me like,
ugh, like you could just see I was a mess.
Unbelievable thing that, do you remember this,
when Patrice was alive, he would sit out on the sidewalk
and he would basically do crowd work.
On the sidewalk. On the sidewalk.
And he would just talk to the people who were walking past.
Which is like, kind of what Keith does too,
because they were like best friends.
Like Keith's great, they probably did it together.
Like Keith be like, shh, quiet.
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I was thinking about this girlfriend of mine that I went to high school with posted something
like normalize spa days.
I don't think the problem is that they're pretty normal.
You're telling me you're rich. Those guys are post-inferior.
It sounds like you're rich.
Yeah, you're just telling us you're rich.
That's all that just happened.
I'm not sure anybody was judging me for getting a blowout, bitch.
Yeah.
Just like normalize.
Normalize.
Spotted.
And it's also, whenever people write that like, normalize or like this, and then they tell you something,
it's like, it's always involves some kind of directive.
Like all of a sudden I feel like I have to run an errand
because you said something.
It's like a command.
I'm like, I don't even have a bra,
give me a minute, you know?
Normalize, spa, I have to do this,
just fucking quick directive,
and I have to know that you get spa days every week,
you twit.
I want a spa day, I'd like to normalize them.
Can I have some fucking quiche?
Can I have some cash?
You have some quiche?
That's a great bit.
Have you done that yet?
Thank you, you actually just helped me work it out more.
Like now that I've talked it out more,
I thought about it more, yeah.
Yeah, have you done it yet?
No, I have not done it on stage yet.
Okay. Yeah.
Or also, this is another one.
My daughter, pick her up from school now.
And so when she listens at school,
she gets a listening sticker.
And so every day when I pick her up,
I'm like, oh, did you get your listening sticker?
Because one day I picked her up and she goes, sadly, no.
Sadly, no.
So she's very condescending
and she kind of braces me with the information.
This is really not a bit yet,
but she also,
she just speaks like me, so you see all the things you say.
So I always give people an out
because I'm always bracing myself for rejection.
So I'll be like, hey, do you want to come over or no?
I always say or no.
So I'll be like, oh, would you like to come hang out
tonight, have a glass of wine or no?
So now she says that to everybody.
So I just saw her around her class and she was like,
do you want to come to my birthday party or no?
I'm like, oof, I'm giving, it's the worst way to be,
she's giving people an out.
I do this, I give everybody an out.
Yeah, people that work with me are always like,
don't give people an out, just ask them.
Oh, I love that.
Yeah, don't be like,
but don't worry about it, you don't have to.
And that's how I speak.
I would break that wide open
because then you can go into an example
of when you did that.
Can you think of a time where you gave someone an out
and it actually backfired?
Yesterday, I'll be like,
I text comedians to ask them to post about my special.
I'm like, if you want to post about this, it's fine,
but don't worry if not.
I hate asking comedians.
I hate myself, I'm sorry.
It's always like 10 apologies.
Just be like, do you mind posting this or whatever?
But I can't do it. I can't. I always have to be like, or no, I'm the worst. It's all the worst. I'm all, like it's always like 10 apologies. Just be like, do you mind posting this or whatever, but I can't do it.
I can't, I always have to be like, or no, I'm the worst.
It's all the worst.
I'm all about out.
Yeah, yeah, but I don't know what's the best thing to teach her
because she's always kind of like, even at her birthday,
she'll be like, mommy, do you want to come sit with me for breakfast or no?
Or she'll be like, do you want to come over, sit at the table or no?
She's always just like sort of releasing people
like they don't want to be there.
Like she presumes you like sort of releasing people like they don't wanna be there.
Like she presumes you don't wanna,
and I see that I've passed this on door so I have to fix it.
But it's also funny
because you just see all your own nonsense.
Like when my daughter tries to get in bed with me now,
she tries to like schmooze me.
She gets in bed with us every night and it's hilarious.
We just see her like walking down the hallway
and she cries until she gets to our door
cause she knows we're to let her in the bed
at this point.
So she's like,
ah, ah, ah, ah.
And then by the time she's in the door,
she's confident, she's fucking gunning people,
she's high-fiving, she's like a rapper walking into a party.
She knows she's going to get out of bed.
And then she'll stop and be like,
oh, that's cute.
And I'm like, what's cute, Frankie?
It's three in the morning. My black scrunchie, you, that's cute. And I'm like, what's cute, Frankie? It's three in the morning.
My black scrunchie you think is like really impressive.
Just get in the bed.
We know where you're getting.
Like, so she kind of works me.
She's like, where'd you get that?
She says, where did you get that
about like some gross night shirt I'm wearing, you know?
Like it was a store she was gonna shop at later.
I'm like, I get everything you own.
Stop working me.
So she definitely works me now.
And I wanna talk about that more on stage.
This is great.
Like I always thought when I had a girl,
I was like, I'm gonna try to infuse them
with this confidence.
It's like Frankie talks to me, like she's worried about me.
Like she'd be like, can you get me a bottle, mom?
She's always like, not sure I can.
She's like, or she'd be like, you can do it.
She's like, you can get me that Barbie camper.
You can get it.
Like as if I lack the confidence
to purchase something for her on Amazon.
Anyway.
That's great.
Thank you.
Both of those are great.
Okay, good.
I can say that.
I need a whole new hour now, so thanks.
We need a new hour.
And fortunately, your personality
kind of is a walking hour of comedy.
Everything about you is hilarious.
Like I'm actually, similar to when I watched your
special, I'm having to suspend myself from laughing too hard because it's going to override
the actual jokes that you're saying.
Also, I took my ADD medicine right before I came here, so I'm going to be talking kind
of fast. Yeah. Maybe you could help me with this.
I've been doing like a whole run about religion and I wrote a Judaism thing this week, but
I don't really know much about Judaism.
So I'm just like, it's hard for me to get on board for Judaism because I don't really
think the Old Testament happened.
Like it's so long ago.
Like my mom tells me stories from last week and I'm like,
I'm not sure that happened.
You know what I mean?
Like, when I think about growing up Catholic,
I disregard the Old Testament, like even as a kid.
I was like, the New Testament is God's way of saying,
sorry about all that.
None of that's true.
It's all about actually forgiveness
and all that kind of stuff.
It's like when God got clean, he's like, I don't drink anymore.
I don't kill people.
I was going to...
That's God sober.
I think you used the word sober.
That's hilarious.
That's sober.
God got sober.
He's like, I was going through some stuff.
I said some things about Sodom and Gomorrah that I regret.
You know what I mean?
And then I go like...
That you should get into more examples.
That's so funny.
The idea of what he did before he was sober
being the first testament of the Bible is very funny.
It is wild.
The Old Testament is wild.
Yeah, it sure is crazy.
Because I even as a kid,
because I was full Catholic as a kid,
and I remember every now and then they would read us
passages from the Old Testament,
and I'd be like, what the hell is going on?
You know what I mean?
Like, but then like...
No, it was like a rave.
It was like a rave.
That's funny that like, the idea of the guy doing things
when he was drunk and now that he's sober,
like I want it, I like, I feel like I don't know much
about the first Old Testament.
Were you raised Jewish?
I was raised Jewish, but my mom converted.
So we were bat mitzvahed, but they were like,
you know, reform Jews.
So we heard stories and things like general stories,
but they were very much about like,
there's a common thread between us.
So I didn't learn like a lot of,
Right.
Even my Torah portion.
You were like Unitarians or something.
We were Jewish, but like even my Torah portion
was like written phonetically on top of the Torah. Like I put like cheat notes on top of it. They were Jewish, but even my Torah portion was written phonetically on top of the Torah.
I put cheat notes on top of it.
They were very casual about it.
But I think that I don't know a lot about
the crazy things that happened in the Old Testament,
but I feel like that's very funny.
Yeah, I was trying to riff on that.
I was like, on day one, I made light,
could have been baked too. a lot of stuff happened.
You know what I mean?
It blurs together.
I thought that would be the relatable,
not the relatable, but the recognizable part
of the Old Testament was like just Genesis.
Yes.
Because then it's like, you know, we all kind of know
like seven days and then I rested and all that shit.
Yeah, but I do think you should mix in more things
because that's like really fun. That's a funny aspect of the joke. Like I've never heard anybody speak and all that shit. Yeah, but I do think you should mix in more things because that's a really funny aspect of the joke.
I've never heard anybody speak about it that way.
Yeah, and then the other thing I wrote down is,
I'm working on this bit about,
I went to strip clubs in my 20s
and I don't really go anymore.
Not because my wife wouldn't let me,
but when I would come home from the strip club,
she wouldn't really want to hear the stories.
That's amazing.
And life is really about the stories.
Which really goes amazing too,
because that leaves some wiggle room there for you.
I don't really go to strip clubs.
Oh right, right, right.
I don't really, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I've probably, I don't know,
I've gone like twice in the last 15 years
or something like that. Yeah, yeah. But like, but yeah, no, I don't know, I've gone like twice in the last 15 years or something like that.
But yeah, no, in my 20s, it's just like,
I was thinking about it the other day,
I was like, people in their 20s are good at strip clubs,
I'm like, I get it.
People in their 70s, I get it.
30 through 60, I'm like, what's happening?
Yeah, something else.
It's more of a red flag, I get it.
20s, you're lost, 70s, you're almost dead.
70s is insane but delightful.
You're like, I love this guy.
I wanna know the guy that's sitting in a strip club
when he's 70.
But yeah, 40s, 50s, there's a darkness.
Cause you kind of know it, you get it.
Like 70s you've lost it again.
So you don't know what's going on anymore.
Like you don't have any information anymore,
you lost it all.
30s, 40s, you kind of have an idea of the fact
that they don't wanna be there and they don't believe in you as a man. But when you're 70, you don't know if you just shit yourself.
So why the fuck not? Should you, you know, get motorboated or whatever? Anyway, as a mother, I just want to say.
The final thing that we do is called Working Out For A a cause. What is a nonprofit that you like to support?
We will contribute and link to them in the show notes.
Friends of firefighters, I do a lot of stuff with them.
They offer free services to entire FDNY families, free therapy, free acupuncture.
They're right here in Brooklyn.
They're on Van Brunt Street.
A lot of firefighters don't know that they have all of this.
And some firefighters don't always want to get therapy
on the job, they can, it's available,
but they don't want it.
Normalize, normalize acupuncture for firefighters.
Yeah, that's right, that's a fucking command.
That's how I feel about it.
Normalize therapy for firefighters.
It's such a cry for help for you, you're like,
it's for therapy, for firefighters. It's such a cry for help for you. You're like, it's for therapy for firefighters, you know,
like maybe my husband might want to go to therapy and maybe.
Please.
Yeah.
But they offer all kinds of amazing free services
and they're in a firehouse.
So it's super cool because firefighters work
with friends of firefighters to kind of make it normal
and comfortable and yeah, so it's amazing.
We're going to link to them in the show notes.
We're gonna contribute to them.
Rachel Feinstein, I mean, legend.
Can I say one more thing?
Sorry. Yeah.
Also the Billy Moon Foundation,
Billy was a firefighter that died on the job
and his wife Christina Moon has two young daughters.
I just did an event for Billy on Sunday.
So Billy Moon Foundation is basically Billy donated
all his organs after he passed away.
And it actually, one of them I believe saved another person
on duty's life.
So it's a really cool and they kind of help people
to do that, to donate organs and do things
that Billy was able to do posthumously.
I always said pronounce that word wrong.
Anyway, Billy Moon Foundation, Christina Moon is lovely. Hi Christina. I'm sorry, it's posthumously. I always said pronounce that word wrong. Anyway, Billy Moon Foundation, Christina Moon is lovely.
Hi Christina.
I'm sorry, it's posthumously.
Posthumously, I knew I said it wrong.
I'm so sorry.
See, I told you I run dumb.
That's the thing.
I don't know like words and stuff.
Rachel. Coming off.
Rachel, you're done.
We're cutting off your microphone.
We're taking away your meds.
We're taking away your ADD medication.
My husband's a hero.
But my husband's a hero.
But I'm the chief's wife.
I get anything I fucking want.
Working it out, because it's not done.
We're working it out, because there's no.
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