Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 046: Justin's Road to Ripped: Week 3 Update

Episode Date: March 19, 2015

Justin has just completed Week 3 of his 90 day transformation. Has it been smooth sailing? Not always. Although Justin is a fitness and nutrition expert, he faces the same day-to-day challenges that everyone faces when making a major lifestyle change. In this episode Justin updates us on his progress and how he is dealing with the challenges that have arisen so far. Sal, Adam & Justin also discuss what it takes to simultaneously build muscle and lose fat at the same time and how you can avoid plateaus. Follow Justin's progress and see his weekly photos at www.mindpumpradio.com/justin.

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Ha ha ha. Hey guys, this is Mind Pump and I'm your host, Justin Andrews, and this is Adam Schaefer, and Salda Stefano. And this is my episode. This is my transformation progress. Every time it's your episode, you go ape shit. I don't know, I feel like it's gotta start at a high.

This is, yeah, I see. I think this is why we have to let him intro every once in a while. It goes to his head and he gets all nuts. He goes shit. Rolls-Tune here, it's gonna turn into like his band that he's talking about. Well, you know what it is.

I'm trying to read it. You know you used to be in it. I think that's exactly what it is You know this guy used to be like a screamer in a band. I know I know Yeah, but it wasn't like that was more like Summiting Satan you know what what you know what we're gonna do already this for the list One day I want you to rip that give it to Doug so Doug can actually play it in the background when we open up That's how we're gonna open one of these sets up. It's give your song can actually play it in the background when we open up. That's how we're gonna open one of these sets up.

It's gonna be your song. We'll be ready, ready, ready, who's the top man, the eight tools. You know what else is making him cocky? It's cause he's getting all lean over here. He's getting all ripped. I don't know about cocky, but yeah. Yeah.

They call me cocky, but it's not because I'm awesome. Getting awesome, er, is cocky. So, Adam, what do you notice about this guy? So we haven't seen, we haven't, this is, we do this every week, one so weak these updates. What do you, look at this guy? What do you see? Cause guy so we haven't seen we haven't this is we do this every week once a week these updates Would you look at look at this guy? What do you see because I know what I see already? Well the biggest thing I know this is face right now Yeah, this is my cock. It's Jesus I haven't seen how much leaner that is yes

Salve gain That is this go serious one time all right Let's sell cover that over that area. Can you guys just go serious one time? All right, honestly, no, honest serious note. What the couple of things I definitely know is for sure, I can see his jawline starting to happen. And what I think the craziest part of it, which that's obvious, right?

He's eating clean, he's working out like consistent, he's following the program to a T. So you know that's gonna happen, but what's surprising me more than anything else, is it looks like you're holding your mask if not gaining. I was just gonna say that. He looks bigger. Yeah, why you're losing your game.

Are you staying the same weight or what do you? Yeah, you know that's when you know it's pretty much like. Are you shitting me? Are you shitting me in a pound or up or down? So, I'm pretty much the same. Just so people know we're not bullshitting, you can go on our Instagram page and he's been posting every week before and after on a weekly basis. And these are live.

This is happening right now. And you can see a huge difference. And what you're saying right now is your weight is relatively the same. Yeah, it's really. So you're building muscle while getting leaner, right, which is the holy grail. Yeah, well, I, you know, and I think that maybe this is like, well, I hope it's not temporary, but I know that my activity levels have gone way up, and so that just tells me how, you know,

maybe less active I was going into this. So, do you know what I mean? Like, I thought it was awesome and working out hard and everything, but I really wasn't working out this hard. Well, I want to just point out that that is one, whenever I'm starting like, starting like a hardcore kick or prep for a show, I actually, that's my goal. My goal is to not see the scale move. I want it,

which sounds weird when you're trying to lean out. And I think, oh, this is a big mistake a lot of people make. A lot of people get so caught up, excuse me, and wanting to see the scale dip that if they don't see that, they start freaking out. Oh, they're not doing enough. They start eating less because listen, you guys can, you can build muscle and burn fat at the same time. It's very difficult, but that's the key though. When you know you're eating clean, okay, you know you're eating better and right and you're

exercising. Shits happening. Yeah. Yeah. Shit is happening. And honestly, if the scale is staying the same, that is the perfect ideal situation. It's, it's called nutrient repartitioning. Your body is taking what you're eating

and putting it towards muscle and burning body fat for energy. And this is an ideal state. And what is it required? It requires a well thought out nutrition plan, what you're doing right now with the nutrition survival guide. And then it requires a workout that is very anabolic. It promotes muscle growth. For sure.

And that's the workout program, the MAPs, anabolic. And I'll tell you what, I've argued with people about this left and right. And there's always one thing I say that shuts them up. You could take, and this is, here's an example. You could take the average person who's been lifting weights and doing everything, they just can't gain any more muscle. And don't have them change their food at all.

Don't have them eating any more protein. Don't change anything. Just give them steroids and watch what happens. They'll build more muscle and lose more body fat. Because the signals are different. The signals are different. So what about some of the concepts that you've included in your workouts?

What are you noticing now? Because it's week three. So you're kind of in it now, right? So what are the big differences or changes, or are there any? Just surges of energy and my pumps are really significant. That's what I'm working out. That's the first thing people say too,

especially about the trigger session, it seems to increase your ability to get pumps. Well, I just really like it, yeah, because it's keeping me in here's the thing. Like back way back when, you know, the mentality was to train and then have a rest day and train and have a rest day. And so like I was always caught up in that recovery phase

where I knew I had to recover, but I would train, you know, really intensively and get like super sore and shredded and my body had to recover. And so with this, going into this has changed my entire perception. So it's basically like, I still train hard, but then, you know, I leave a couple in the chamber, so to speak, you know, after, you know, three or four reps where I could still kept going, my whole ego has changed towards that because I know now, like, the next day, I'm going to keep going. I'm going to keep training. I might, you know, do my trigger session, and it's not as intense, but at the same time, I'm still active. Like, I'm so

active now, like, that it's transferring into everything. I'm more active. Like I'm so active now, like that it's transferring into everything. I'm more active with everything. I'm running around the house and I'm cleaning stuff. I just have more, when I wake up in the morning, I'm like up, you know, and like I drink coffee and everything. I don't necessarily need it, but at the same time, it's kind of like one of this. I don't want to give it up,

but I probably wouldn't even need to drink. So, trip off this. This is the probably, there's probably two of the most common things I hear about from people who follow this program, like you're doing. Number one, and this is a weird one, but I'll have people tell me that their libido increases. They'll say that they feel Boeing. Yeah, their libido goes up. And the second thing they'll say is that their appetite will change. So when they do eat their hungrier and when they're not eating, they're okay.

So it's like it's healthy kind of appetite. Those to me are strong signals that your body's anabolic. I mean, I think if your libido's strong, you're probably in an anabolic state. That morning would, right? Yeah. How's your mind?

So explain that. How's your morning? Hey, it's, now it's something I want to elaborate on what Justin just said because I was going to explain that. How's your morning? Hey, it's, now, it's something I want to elaborate on, what Justin just said, because it's time to do moon, baby. This is such an important point to make right here about what you just said about your training. This is something that I changed when I started getting competing and it was very new for me too.

For the longest time, I used to do traditional body splits and I used to focus on my workouts like that and take rest days every two to three days, let my body recover, I blast the shit out of it until I was super sore, it's the same thing over and over, right? And now I try not to ever take a day off, but how I train is completely different.

I'm always modifying my intensity level based off of how my body feels, and it's also the reason why I can't train with anybody. And I always get, I work out at a gym where there's a lot of other pro athletes and buddies of mine that work out. And you know, always, hey, let's work out together. Cause that comes a big ego.

Yeah, and I feel like a dick. I feel like a dick always saying no, you know, cause I like to work out by myself. But the main reason why is because I'm always changing my intensity level and what I'm actually, sometimes I mean, I thought I was gonna work out chest, tri, shoulders and squats. And that might get modified completely because of something being sore or wanting to address something else or wanting to manipulate my intensity level.

And everybody has this mentality. And I'm talking even your smart trainers and pro athletes have this like beast mode all the time. And that's's how they and if you're not going to failure and pushing so hard that you can't quite get the same results as the guy who's stopping with two or three left in the tank. Yeah, and that's how I train now. I train I rarely ever take it to failure. I'm always leaving a couple of the tank and I'm but I'm my frequency is different. My frequency of returning to those muscle groups. And so intensity is not everything. Everybody thinks it's just a tool. I don't see why that's so complicated. It's a tool like anything else, like volume is a tool. Frequency is a tool.

I don't work out my whole body every day with a certain level of intensity, but I can train it pretty frequently if I modify those other factors. Exactly. And you know, when you say tool to, it's a tool that actually gets way overused. Number one, most overused tool, 100%. Absolutely. It's something you throw in there every once in a while. Every once in a while, you go beast mode.

But every workout going beast mode, seriously, you are, you won't grow. Well, I honestly blame marketing. I blame infomercials and I blame all these things that they glorify the intensity of everything. Yeah, all those jokers man. Right. You know, because it's not sexy. It's not sexy thing to tell people like people aren't going to respond to, who are beast mode PR bro. Yeah, that's all they're going to give a shit about. That's the other thing too. It's like I just don't concern like so on those things either and that's what

I love about the program. I love that it's not designed that way. It's designed for you to be frequently touching all these muscle groups, stimulating, sitting in that anabolic signal. So you're always stimulating muscle growth. It's about effectiveness. You know what I mean?

That's what I'm talking about. It's just like just get rid of those preconceived ideas that everybody's been jamming down your head. Just get with what, effective and what is going to keep you motivated and going. I honestly feel so much what I want to say. I feel so much like belief in this program that it's a ramp up. It's sustainable. It's something I could keep doing, but it's like I'm constantly moving and it's benefiting

me. My energy levels, my interactions with people, my thought process is like it's just another way of stimulating the machine, getting the machine moving. Well, I firmly believe that the trigger session concept by itself will be utilized by athletes by other modalities. Oh, absolutely. Because that concept can be applied in about

a million different ways, that concept of sending a small signal in between those big, you know, loud signals that you do on the hard workouts. Right. The other thing that we would even cover, we're not talking about really, you're on week three, which usually you'll go into a different phase after week three.

And here's the thing, when it comes to muscle growth, there's really three main types of adaptations that occur that all contribute to bigger, more muscular muscles. One is central nervous system adaptation. And training specifically for central nervous system adaptation is different than training force to specifically just muscle fiber hypertrophy. Pertrophy, sarcoplasmic.

Right, so central nervous system in a nutshell, it's like the amplifier to a stereo system. You speakers are your muscle. So you can just get a stronger amp and put out more volume out of your speakers. And a bigger amp, in this case, will contribute to stronger muscle contractions, which then when you move to the next phase,

which is training specifically for muscle hypertrophy, and by the way, hypertrophy is the enlargement of each muscle fiber. So a muscle fiber getting actually bigger is muscle fiber hypertrophy. Then you train specifically for that, but that's not it, right? Muscles are made up of a lot of things other than just muscle fiber.

There's what's called sarcoplasm. Sarcoplasm is the blood in your muscles. It's the glycogen, it's all of the capillaries, it's all of the... It's all of the non... That's a fluid, that's it. it's all the pump, it's all of the non, that's a fluid there. It's all the non muscle fiber structures within muscle and increasing that not only will make you perform better because now you've got more readily available blood

and energy but also makes your muscles bigger. But here's the fourth one and this is why we didn't include, we kind of talk about it for a little bit in the MAPS antibody program but we don't really go into detail because it's theoretical. However, they're actually looking at animal studies and they're looking at human studies and there's evidence now for something called

muscle fiber hyperplasia. Hyperplasia is, that is gold. If you can have hyperplasia, you're set. And what is hyperplasia? It's creating new muscle fibers. New. That's insane. That's crazy.

And there's evidence of it. And you know what the evidence comes from? Frequent muscle stimulation over long periods of time. It's exactly what you do when you follow the program and you do the trigger sessions on a regular basis in combination with the foundation. And there's absolutely no way to get to that love unless you establish that. That's pretty sad.

The central nervous system and you go through the process of hypertrophy. Exactly. And with muscle fiber hyperplasia, here's why it's gold. Because muscle fibers shrink when you don't work out, but they don't disappear. You increase the number of muscle fibers. And because they're muscle memory, that's where that part of it comes from. Part of it. Yeah, and you have more muscle fibers forever,

which is insane. Now, it takes longer periods of time, it takes frequent stimulation, but it happens. And then what's the best part is you focus on each facet, each phase, whether it be hypertrophy or cycloplasmic or hypertrophy or central nervous system adaptation, and you cycle through them. And so you basically have this kind of perpetual progress

that you're going through. You don't really hit plateaus like you normally would where you would just come to a grinding halt. You kind of take a step back and then two steps forward each time. Can you give us kind of an example? Because right now we're using a lot of terminology right now. It's probably sailing over a lot of people's head.

Can you give an example of maybe three exercises or movements or ways that you would train in order to target those specific things? Absolutely. So that's a great question. So central nervous system adaptation, you get, now you get that whenever you work out period regardless of what you do, but you get it, you maximize it when you train with heavy loads, low reps, and you do them for lots of sets. So if you want maximum, let's say central nervous system

adaptation for squats. Like five by five. Do I basically train your body to deal with getting crushed? Yeah, exactly. That's a great way to put it, Justin. So let's say your max squat is 315 pounds. Well, you would take, I don't know, 270 and you would do two reps and you would do seven sets of two.

So it's not failure, but you're practicing the movement over and over again and your central nervous system is getting really, really good at that squat. So that would be central nervous system adaptation. Now hypertrophy is what most of the listeners are probably familiar with because that's the more the traditional bodybuilding. 10 to 12 reps.

You're wrapping it out and you're getting the palm. Yeah, eight to 12 reps. You rest two minutes in between sets, you do another set, that type of stuff. Circle Plasma hypertrophy is maximizing the pump during your workout. So think of all the things that give you the best pump, right? Short rest periods, lots of repetitions.

Exactly. I like supersets. Super sets work great for that or drop sets work great for that. And just gives you these crazy ridiculous pumps. So now if you guys can envision, so I'll just give us three examples. Now this is how I see most people train, especially, and I'm talking about like professional athletes,

men's physique, bodybuilders, is they do all of it in the same workout. It's like, and so of course they're seeing results. So you look at them and of course they look great because they are, they are, and in their mind that's their way of doing it is like, I'm hitting all of that. I'm getting them super low heavy, they're training volume, they're getting a pump because they're super setting exercises, but there's just no need to do

all of that all the time. You can break it up in a thing. Yeah, periodically change that. Well, yeah, and we'll get in line. At one time, we should talk about DUP. So we should get into that a whole other episode of one time because that's what we're getting to right now is periodization of training and so what that is. Well, here's the thing. I'd say between the three of us, Justin's probably in terms of training athletes, you're probably the most verse. When you train athletes, I mean, for my knowledge and correct me if I'm wrong, do you not train them in phases?

Oh, absolutely. Yeah, so. Yeah, that's why I think that, you know, applying a maps concept to athletic training and movements is totally ripe. Like that is definitely the direction that we're gonna take this. And I, you know, exactly what you're gonna be established. You'll be spearheading that by the way.

Dude, but I'm telling you that you built the foundation of the maps, which I totally, you know totally agree with and I'm feeling the results from it. But now take that concept into different, you know, real specific athletic moves and power moves and getting that sort of pop that you need as an athlete to perform. Wow, dude. So that would be amazing. So that's what I haven't even shared with you guys is that because I've been doing maps for a long time now and You know, I've actually modified it. I'm not following it the way Justin has fallen out I've already done that seen the great benefits from and so now what I've done is I've taken the concept and I've modified it for Cosmetic reasons for

Specific focus points that I'm trying to change between shows that I need to bring up a certain part of my body part and I'll tell you what I don't want to steal Justin's thunder what he's doing right now, so we're gonna save me. I will And you are now I don't I don't want to I don't even want to get into what I'm doing right now because part of it It right now I'm going through it. Well, you got a competition coming out. Yeah, that's not tell your competitors exactly So we'll definitely get to know I see going though, but they're that I mean It's this is the foundation. So those of you that are actually already following the program, it's just like the nutrition guide.

You built both these to teach you a found. It's not the, we're not telling you, this is the answer, the only way you train, this is better than this or that. This is the foundation of how you should build. And then we can build off of that. And that's where later guides and programs are to come out is to show everybody. Everybody has to go through that, regardless of where you are as far as your level

is concerned, fitness-wise, sports, athlete-wise. You have to go to the foundation. It's like you're GED. You gotta go there, man. You gotta start there and you gotta build on top of that. Well, one more thing I wanna talk about in terms of phasing your workouts, because like you said, Adam,

a lot of people do this all that shit in one workout or all in one week. The body is very specific with how it adapts. So if you ask it to adapt to everything all at once, you might get a little bit of each, but you're not gonna get a lot of any of them. That's number one, number two, and we've seen this with sports.

That's why when you're a football player, you'll do strength training season and then conditioning season and whatever, and they kind of peak you towards your event. Same thing holds true if you want to look a certain way. It's best to focus a relative short period of time, but definitely a period of time on a specific type of adaptation. The second thing is it changes your mentality.

When I'm going into phase one of the MAP Santa Bob program and I'm training specifically for central nervous system adaptation, the first week, I have to change my mindset because I just finished training for pumps and for the way I look. Now I'm going in and I'm training just for strength and it changes my mindset and it keeps things fresh. Oh yeah.

And I don't get burnt out. You know what happens? I've made this mistake millions of times and I guarantee you listeners who are trying I know what happens. I've made this mistake millions of times and I guarantee You listeners who we're trying the program will probably do the same thing You get so stuck in a phase because you're having a great time Then you start noticing diminishing returns. So it's it is important to do the to phase your workouts and I think that's part of the reason why it's so successful

And that's some of the feedback that we're getting from it. Awesome. Yeah, yeah. And one more point. I mean, I know that, you know, out the gates, one thing, like we sort of mentioned, like a muscle memory. I know, like, just for some people, that might be seeing this and not believing things that I'm doing are results or whatnot. Like, I had established a pretty decent size

from playing football and sports for a long period of time. So, you know, my body might be reactive to this, you know, in comparison, but I think that most people that have gone through this, at whatever level they are seeing, like, amazing things happen. I mean, even when I switched gears, I just wanted to put that out there. If I blow up a little bit, that's because, you know. Well, let me tell you, this is why I love, this is why I love Justin because you're, I mean, I think three of us, so this way, you're honest and I'm gonna, I definitely make that clear.

You know what you're doing. You've been a trainer for a long period of time, you've got a great background. So you're going to progress pretty quickly. And if you put, if you put you, you know, we take Justin, we put him on an effective program and an effective nutrition plan

and it's all scientific and planned out. You're gonna see some drastic, look, I'm telling you guys, if you haven't gone on our Mind Pump Instagram page, go there and look at his weak transformations. Me and Adam, we had, actually, I didn't even told you, me and Adam had a conversation. We both are like, yeah, we're both like,

is he progressing too fast? Because, like, what the fuck's it like? Where's he gonna be? He can't keep this face up. There's no, that's what I keep saying. It's pretty wild how fast you're, you're, you're, but I'm excited for too, because in reality, and it's, it's pretty inevitable that, you know,

no matter how special and spectacular you are, you're going to hit a plateau. Special Olympic. You're gonna hit, you're gonna hit a plateau. You're gonna slow your progress. We'll slow down. That will happen. And then that's where, you know, and this is the piece that we haven't asked you.

Sal likes to ask a lot of the stuff, cosmetically what's going on with you and the feelings. So I want to know, I'm so into the mental piece because I feel like the mental side is something that I really had to get a hold of when I was training to compete because when you're on a time frame which this is I have to think this is the first time in your life that you've ever really had like a deadline you're trying to for showing my body to me. Yeah, please. So it's different. I never I never had that mentality ever. Either

I and I remember when I first made that transition to competing I was like well it's the different monsters a lot of pressure on myself especially just like you transition to competing, I was like, well, it's the different monsters. A lot of pressure on myself, especially just like you're doing right now. I was putting it out on social media. It was like, fuck, I'm putting myself out there. Oh yeah. I don't mention a little bit of like, you know,

kind of a melting point for me over the weekend. And I know you guys, you guys experienced a bit of that. Yeah, no, I want to talk to you. He needs to talk to me. I think this is probably one of the biggest pieces that just doesn't get touched on a lot that people have to have to understand the mental side of it. And you have to be as mentally strong

as you are physically strong. Yeah, no, all good. Basically for me, if nobody really knows me that well, like if I set my mind to something, I'm already like, I'm not going gonna think about anything else until I'm there. And so for me to look at something with a critical eye of like maybe the beginning of it, as far as like where I was and evaluate myself

and what I'm bringing in. And if I don't like it, I'm immediately gonna throw it away. And so for people to bring it up to me, like, oh, here's where you were. Like it frustrates the shit out of me. Like I don't even wanna look at that anymore. I'm so much farther in the future that, you know, anyway, so what brought this up was my body fat test

and I really had a problem with it because, you know, I felt like, what the fuck? There's no way that's right. But maybe there's some, you know, validity there, and I just didn't wanna see it. I'm just so focused on getting shredded and doing my thing and not paying attention to it. So if somebody says some negative shit to me,

it really will go right over my head. Damn, are you as turned on as I am? I'm like fuck you. Yeah, no, I just, I love to hear him express this and I feel like it's something that we can share in common because I was exactly the same way. It was one of the hardest things for me to deal with was, it was just a lot of pressure.

It was a lot of pressure to have a date. A date that I'm, you know, most people that start journey, it's like, oh, I'm gonna get in shape. And so they do their fitness journey and, hey, guess what? If a wedding comes up or some, and they set, they eat out or they eat bad a little bit or they miss a workout too, they're kind of like, whatever, you know, because they don't have a timeframe.

But when you get the pressure of, I'm trying to get in the best shape possible in 90 days, plus the pressure of, hey, on this educated, experienced trainer, I better know what the fuck I'm doing. Right, right, that's the other of, hey, on this educated, experienced trainer, I better know what the fuck I'm doing. Right, right. That's the other thing I think I was cracking me was like, you know, I don't like looking vulnerable, especially when like it's a topic that I know a lot about, right?

So that's a frustrating thing for me because I don't want the listeners to think that like just because maybe I was focused on other things in my life as far as business and family and I'm a human being just like you are. We all kind of go through these periods where certain things take priority and that was literally all that was going on with me. So it's like me maybe having some pounds on me is just that. It doesn't mean I'm not like a crazy savage in the gym or whatever the case. So I just, there needs to be that distinction for me to make sure that everybody understands where I'm coming from with that. I like to make sure that

you're human. You're human. You're human, you're human and I think it's... Well, if anything, that's gonna be... I mean, it makes me believe you more. Well, here's a thing, I'm sorry, bro, but if you put your before picture in there, I think I look way worse. I think you look... I don't know about that. I'll change your before physique, my before physique any day,

and I remember going through that and feeling that like Holy shit like and bro. I was training still. I was training still Yeah, yeah, I just wasn't I wasn't focused on I died I didn't care you know I'm saying I had in that point in my career I was very very money motivated. I was focused on growing a couple of businesses that I was working on I was working seven days a week whatever excuses just like everybody else. Yeah, but the other day that's that's what makes us human Bro, that's what makes us like everybody else. But the other day, that's what makes us human, bro. That's what makes us like everybody else.

What I think, I think it's so much better that we share and show that side because that's more like the average person, very, and I don't like when people look at like, you know, the competing side or where I'm at now and they just assume that like, oh, you know, he's been this way his whole life or genetically, he's this freak or whatever the case may be,

like all the assumptions that people people I rather show you go through some hard ass work to get where you are, bro. Trust me. I'll validate that all day. Well, and you are now too. And I think that I really always want to and it's going to be hard for you. But what I'm excited for is we get we have this platform now that I didn't have when I first started and I wish. Well, this is the first time that you're, I mean, I can think where someone's actually letting you follow that.

Deadly live, right? Live. Yeah. This is happening. This is not, here's my before and after. This is, you're seeing me every single week and how I'm changing. And if I fuck up, you're gonna see it.

Yeah. Well, you're gonna see it. That is, I mean, you've got some colonnets to do that, and I appreciate it. And this is the first time, but I think that's just highlights the confidence that we have in what we're doing. Yeah, and I think too, it's important for us,

and I know I'm gonna challenge you a little bit, and I'm gonna be the guy who asks that a question a lot, because I wish I would have done more of it. I did a little bit of YouTube videos where I talked about this, but man, there was times during my journey where I got sick, you know, shit happened where I had to travel, go somewhere, and it set me back, you know, where I'd have a week that set me back and I was so frustrated because of what I was trying to do, but I also felt the need that to share that and say, hey, this is real life shit. Now, how do I handle this mentally?

Am I going to let it spin me out of control and cry over spill milk? Or am I going to pick my fucking ass back up? You get back on my program, stay focused and just it just chalk it up as, hey, that's part of that, that's part of this journey is that you're going to have setbacks. You're going to have mental frustrations that are going to come. You know, I'm saying and how do I get, how do I handle it? You know, yeah. So I mean, I love that about you.

I love that that you have the balls to put it out in front of everybody right now. I mean, because we've got tens of thousands of people that are listening, that takes a lot of balls to do that. And I think a lot of people respect you for that. And I think it's only gonna build even more respect for you to share that side, you know? So I think it's important for our listeners to know that, you know, hey, we're fucking human too.

And we go through the same frustrations and challenges. You know, we do, with the three of us have yet to work out together. I need to say that right now on air because I think that would be a freaking good time. I worked out with this guy the other day at the gym without him, it was fun. But I think the three of us would be a freaking blast.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'd hurt myself trying to keep up with you. I don't know, you'll be all right with your dead list. That's all we'll do. Yeah, I'll show you. I was gonna say, the salarites, it's gonna all we'll do. Yeah, I'll show you. It's good to say the salarights, it's gonna be all deadlifts. Yeah. I'll grip stuff.

I'm like, shit, I gotta go guys. So, are you, you know, to get back to you and your program, are you getting ready to enter a new phase this week? Is that what's happening? What's happening? I've purchased your free. Okay, so you're about to transition to a new phase this week. Okay, so it's exciting.

Here's what you can expect. Cool. Here's what you can expect. Cool. Here's what you can expect. You can expect your muscle. You can expect more of a response in terms of how your muscles look. The strength gains are going to be as fast and furious, but the muscles are going to start to look bigger and rounder. So this is why you want to start working out with me. Yeah, yeah.

Exactly. I want to see that. Okay, cool. Live. Cool. Alright, thanks for that. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for listening to Mind Pump. For more information about this show and to get valuable free resources from Sal and

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